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The Historian: What's going on, good people? Welcome to another edition of Gridiron Views episode 18. Daylight saving time. Time is going back. It's getting darker earlier and it's getting brighter sooner. So, with that being said, we're gonna talk a little bit about some bright things and maybe a couple of dark things today when it comes to the daylight savings time, referring to the NFL. But before we do that, we have Mr. Tyree Holland and Big Andre in the building getting ready to get this thing started. How you fellas doing today, gentlemen?
Tyree Holland: I'm doing phenomenal, man. Every day above ground is a good day. Also, when people talk about the dark side, no no no no no. We turning the lights on today. But how you doing, Andre?
Dre: Hey man, I'm doing wonderful. Any day that the good Lord wakes me up and gives me an opportunity to be great is a great day. First of all, but a bye week where you still win, getting a win on the bye week, that's just an amazing feeling, man. So shout out to the Cardinals taking care of business against those sorry Cowboys and helping me get a win in a week where I didn't even play a game, man.
The Historian: Man, but well, since you already started off on that path, let's go ahead and talk about the biggest takeaways from college football or the NFL this week. So Andre, what are your takes today, sir?
Dre: Yeah, my first one is Tampa Tua is back. for those that don't know who Tampatua is, it's the opposite of Honolulu Penix. They are the same player, ladies and gentlemen, for a minute. I thought Michael Penix might beat the allegations and turn in the master P for real, but he just went right back to playing like I don't know, I like a backup quarterback, you could say, I guess. four interception, Rye, you a fan, you watch the game. Talk to me. Like, I how did you feel about that game?
The Historian: Well, you see, I hadn't jumped on that bandwagon. I said, I got to give it a whole season. I'm not buying into two to three games. And you know, Tyree pretty much, and you kept all those receipts, you know, just got all these seats. Got them all. And I told you, I don't trust him. I don't trust the fansky right now. It's gotta take a whole season for me to trust these guys and to see what they can do. Because when you have games this, you must go away from being foolish when it when it comes to that. it's raining like cats and dogs. You can't throw the ball in there in that weather. Guess what? You got a franchise running back by the name of B. John Robinson. You should have used him in many different ways. Tyree, what is your take on this, sir?
Tyree Holland: The Atlanta Falcons literally has one of the best, if not the best, running back in the backfield and did not utilize them. Crazy to me. And then also losing to a team that didn't even complete a pass. Insane. But speaking of passing, man, shout out to my elite quarterback and Caleb Williams, you know, commanding the offense by passing for 247 yards and
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a touchdown leading the Chicago Bears past the Seattle Seahawks 34 to 17. the newly acquired star Jeffrey Simmons, wrecking the game on the defensive side of the ball, racking up six tackles and a sack because of his presence on the field. Chicago generated 80% pressure just with a four-man rush with him on the field. my gosh. Guys, it was heaven sent seeing Chicago get to the quarterback without a blitz. Four guys. Rod, you got a phenomenal defense over there in Atlanta. you guys can get to the quarterback just four rushing four. Man, it was heaven sent. And thank God for the Bears trading for Jeffrey Simmons. my other take is around college football. Even though Oklahoma State lost a close 51 to 49 game to Iowa State, quarterback Drew Mestermaker proves He's a real superstar throwing for 323 passing yards and five touchdowns. He showed his elite arm strength and pocket movement on film, establishing himself as a top quarterback prospect in the twenty twenty-seven NFL draft.
The Historian: It's pretty. It's so
Dre: Yeah, met Mestermaker is making himself some money right now. And I was one of the people that thought that he would end up going back for another year just because of the limited starts that he does have. But right now, I'm not so sure that that's the case. And that kind of leads me into another takeaway that I have right now. And it's this quote unquote generational quarterback class that we were supposed to have this year is a general process. Or a generational pack of ass. That's all it is. It's not generational. It's not what it was hyped up to be. I I don't even know if Arch and some of these other guys are coming out this year because apparently now they're getting advice from trainers and other people that coming out early is not the right move and going back to college is the way to go. So for anybody out there that needs a quarterback, I feel sorry for you. Couldn't be me. I got two of I got eighteen and six.
The Historian: People in the church keep the money coming. Hey, we gotta keep the money coming. Just I gotta run it back one more time. Hold up, just well the people in the church keep the money coming. Well, with the money that's coming in with Atlanta at this point, you gotta go ahead and start looking at your options to bring in a quarterback because the backup quarterbacks have been f have been horrible. And then you got a quarterback that's been as inconsistent as gas prices have been for the past couple of months, just to be honest with you. right now, Mesa Maker is definitely a guy that I would look at financially, getting him in on a rookie contract. You're gonna deal with the ups and downs. But this team that we have in Atlanta is built to win now. But the other thing, like Andre was saying, he's got two quarterbacks. And if we're gonna look at it from a college standpoint, it it it's a lot of I'll say this this quarterback class to me isn't one of the best to come out. But I think is I think it's gonna be one
of the ones that'll probably have one or two guys that'll pop, but everybody else, it's gonna be they're gonna be good, they're gonna be journeymen and it's nothing wrong with being able to get a nice paycheck just for being a practice squad guy in the NFL. You play long enough you get a pension.
Dre: like I I hear what you're saying about the pension and all that, but Dante Moore was a guy that was supposed to be a top two pick in the draft last year. And I'm questioning if he should even come out at this point. Honestly. Like, do you think Dante Moore should be coming out for the draft, Tyree? Like, what's your opinion on that?
Tyree Holland: I don't know how much eligibility he has left. What isn't he a junior?
Dre: he has one more year of eligibility, which is at UCLA for a year, then he sat at Oregon for a year, and this would have been his second year starting. So yeah. He has one more year of eligibility left.
Tyree Holland: I would tell him to come back a year. Just come back because I feel like if you're looking at his overall footage it's very inconsistent. if I'm a scout right now, I would give him a an incomplete because of, you know, the head injuries. you were just joking around about Honolulu Penix or whatever you call and we know about the Tua situation, the head injuries. You know that's gonna be a major part of the draft taking points away from if if they should draft them or reach above a top five draft pick.
Dre: Yeah, but how do you if you're him, how do you justify
Tyree Holland: I would come back a year.
Dre: going back to school though? what happens if you get another one of those concussions? Nobody's rafting you at that point.
Tyree Holland: You know what, you got a point?
Dre: I no, go ahead.
Tyree Holland: you already got carted off the field once. I would say go to the NFL, don't play with your future. Speaking of futures, why do massive NIL budgets still fail in college football?
The Historian: you're getting ready to get me started. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to put on my coach Kool-Aid hat today. Coach Kool-Aid was in the house, bro. Hey, when we sit back and you think about it, man, these budgets with these kids now, it's just ridiculous at this point. And a lot of these schools are losing because you have lack of development. And they're just paying guys just to stand on the field and they're not able to teach them the game. And they're warm more worried about I gotta be able to keep these stars and I gotta let them do this here. Let's be honest. Prime example: you look at the Texas AM Aggies, you looked at that roster that when Jumbo Fisher was coaching at the time, he had the number one class. You're talking about a class that spent over $50 million on that ball club. And if you think about it, Everybody left and went to other schools. One of the biggest catches on that team was Walter Nolan. And you saw where he ended up. He's in the NFL now, but you saw when he went the old miss and he actually had somebody to
help develop him. You saw what it looked like. So at this point, is it the f these kids just chasing the bag and not searching for development and they get in their feelings and they'll leave and go elsewhere? Or are they actually being developed by these coaches? In a way that they can try to help them play on the next level. Cause I think it's been a drop off with players when they get to the NFL. How do you guys feel, Dre?
Dre: I'm gonna go a different direction because I I do think that yes, these guys being paid has affected development to some extent. And even how coaches handle these guys, even. You know, you can't handle these guys the same way now that you could when they weren't being paid. It's just a different dynamic. But it to me it it's almost like it doesn't matter how much money you pay for a roster if you don't have the coaching staff to put those guys in a position to succeed. And I feel like that's one of the areas this season that people kind of overlooked when it came to Oregon was the fact that they were replacing both coordinators. Right. And we see Will Stein, what he's able to do now in year one at Kentucky and the impact he's able to have. It hasn't looked good for Oregon. And honestly, it hasn't looked good all year for Oregon. This isn't like it's it's just a one or two game sample size that we can say they can bounce back from. It hasn't been good. You can tell that they're missing Will Stein. You can tell that they're missing the defensive coordinator. And I I think that that is what gets overlooked far too often. not just in college football, but in football in general, is the coaching impact that those head coaches provide or coordinators
Tyree Holland: I prefer mysteries and movies, not my football teams. Yet college football has turned into a Hollywood thriller with backroom obsessions and blank checks. Massive programs like Texas AM spending tens of millions of dollars to assemble historical recruiting classes operating under the delusion that massive payrolls guarantee success. Instead, these bloated NIL budgets bring a fractured locker room, then which leads to the transfer portal chaos and game day dysfunction. having a main focus on money alone and not focusing on teamwork, chemistry, and competent coaches is the ultimate downfall of a university. Consistency is key. But then you flip the script to teams like Northwestern, Iowa, Kentucky with a small budget. They they didn't let their small budget limit their true chemistry and the possible ceiling that they can make it to the college football playoffs this year. They ignored the high price five stars and focused on elite player development establishing a culture what are your takes on small budgets within the NIL, seeing teams thrive, as I mentioned, Northwest and Iowa and Kentucky. What's your guys' thoughts?
Dre: Not everybody can do it the way that an Alabama, Georgia, Oregon, or AM, that these fools can. Right? Some of these schools still have to go out there and do college football the right way. What I mean by that is like for a school like Wake Forest, nothing has changed by how they approach building a football team. Could there still be some money involved now? Yes. But I don't think much has changed for them strategically. Right. I I think you're still recruiting some of the same guys. Now, what this does maybe change is maybe you're able to get a few better players to come in that would have been backups on some of these high caliber teams. Maybe that's where you see the biggest impact for the small program. But they're still playing football. They're still coaching football. They're still building programs. Not everybody has a huge payroll to be able to do that. Some people still have to be able to do it the old-fashioned way. And I commend any coach and any program out there that is still building the old-fashioned way.
Tyree Holland: Speaking of old fashioned and a possible slobber knocker, the college football spotlight game of the week, Miami versus Notre Dame, fellas, who do you have winning? Rye?
The Historian: Gotta go with the good old Vatican money. Gotta go with the fighting Irish in this game. Right now, they have to win this game to have a credible win on their schedule. when you look at Notre Dame, they're averaging 40 points a game, averaging they're pretty much on the season. They have 323 total points, but then you look at it, they got 41 touchdowns on the season. When you look at the offensive production. They are very efficient this year. And they're 43% on third down. So it's been up and down. But if you really look at it, they're actually very competent when it comes to their offense. It's just the consistency factor that concerns me. But I think when you have a team against the wall with desperation in their season being on the line, I think that is one of the things that you have to consider. when it comes to Notre Dame being able to win this game. It's gonna come down to who wants it more. It's really gonna be a fist fight. Throw the numbers out of the window.
Dre: I think when you look at this game, it comes down really to three things for me. It comes down to lead offensive production, third down dominance, and run defense. And those are three categories where Miami has been really, really good this year. Right? Notre Dame may have the better overall defense, but Miami has the number one scoring offense, the number one rushing defense, and converts 55% of its third down. The hurricanes could beat you through the air on the ground and just by controlling possession. So I'm gonna go with Miami in this game. I think that they continue their streak of being an unbeaten team this season. And I think that they're gonna ride the momentum of this win all the way to the ACC championship for the first time in program history.
Tyree Holland: Notre Dame's crushing physicality gives them the ultimate winning edge over Miami. Behind a dominant offensive line led by Will
Black and quarterback CJ Carr will smoothly operate the offense I'm taking Notre Dame
Dre: Side note, because we're talking about Notre Dame. This kind of ties more so back into the NFL. But man, the Cardinals took Jeremiah Love in the top five of the NFL draft. And through eight games of his NFL career, he's had three separate ankle injuries. Two of them high ankle injuries. They have to be really, really concerned about him going forward, especially because he was never really. A true bell cow back at Notre Dame.
Tyree Holland: Andre, when you say that, I think only time was will tell 'cause he has to get used to the physicality of the NFL. I'm not gonna write him off just yet. I just think he needs to get on a a whole diet plan, you know, a strength and conditioning program of the NFL. we'll truly know about him, I say around year two or three.
The Historian: He's gotta learn. It's his first year. Gotta understand. Your body is your investment. If you don't take care of that, or if you're not finding ways to invest into it to become a finely tuned machine, you're not gonna be in the NFL long. And that's why when they tell you when you get to the league, you're practically on your own. You have to develop your own habits when it comes to diet, nutrition. also offseason conditioning is very critical. One of the greatest, to me, the greatest running back of all time, and that is no question, is Walter Payton. When you look at the way that the man trained, it it defied what the US Marines would do. And I'm a military I'm a prior military member being a veteran. So if I'm telling you that, that should tell you something. He trained for failure. And a lot of those tips. I'm sorry, USA, y'all gonna get mad at me, my fellow vets. a lot of the a lot of the training techniques he got was when he studied a little bit about the Russian army and how they train, training on hills, long distance conditioning, being able to condition in strength. You know, when you look at a lot of the old school football players, the durability was there. You look at the injuries, it wasn't it wasn't a ton of those. Or if it was injuries, you didn't know about it and they played through it. So that is the difference with the generations. I had to bring the historical fact in here, but I think some of these guys should go back to some old school training. It didn't hurt. What do y'all think?
Dre: But you saying they need to get them guys into Diamond Gym with unking them over there in in Jersey. hitting the hills
The Historian: Amen.
Dre: and and the burpees and all that.
The Historian: You know what? Look at the conditioning and look at the durability of the players from then till now. And you're talking about guys that were getting beat on and they didn't have rules protecting them for long periods of time. Hell, look at your legendary linebacker, Lawrence Taylor. He played 13 years in the league and he played through pain. He played through injury. He was well conditioned.
He was well conditioned. So out outside of the other stuff, 'cause he even said it himself. He said if I actually got sleep and I didn't do the stuff that I did off the field, he said, I probably would have been better than what I was. Shout out to L T.
Dre: That's easy to say. But cocaine, crack cocaine gives you superhuman strength. so excuse me if I find it hard to believe that Lawrence Taylor would have been better if he wasn't a crackhead when he was the most dominant player in NFL history. I just I don't know. I don't know if I necessarily agree with his point there. I get what he's saying, but I don't I don't think it hurts, when when you're high out of your mind playing on a broken ankle. I'm just saying, I I think it makes it a little easier to play on a broken ankle when you can't feel it, huh?
The Historian: you know who he got it from. Hey I agree. You know but you know who he got you know who his favorite football player was, right? And he took and he took after his habits on the field and off the field. A man by the name of Thomas Hollywood Henderson, a Dallas Cowboy legendary linebacker, bruh.
Tyree Holland: Yeah.
Dre: Well good.
The Historian: Shout out to Hollywood Henderson. he was one of the first players that was actually getting high during games. Wasn't he the one that was known to get high during games? There were other players who did it, but he was known for that and with liquid cocaine. So shout out to Hollywood. He was a hell of a player. HBCU legend, by the way, Langston University. Shout out to him. But he was how many linebackers do you know running kick returns back for touchdowns, bruh? That's unheard of.
Tyree Holland: Mm
Dre: And
Tyree Holland: not Any final thoughts, fellas?
Dre: But my my final thought for today, because Ry was talking
The Historian: But today.
Dre: about linebackers toting that pill back in the day. Man, did you see the Jalen Brewster highlights of that kid toting the pill? Number one defensive line prospect in the nation out there running the ball. Damn near look like Derrick Henry out there. It was scary. But that kid is he's really good. I can't wait to watch him in college. It's gonna be a lot of fun to watch.
Tyree Holland: Right.
The Historian: my final thoughts is this. Kevin Stefanski, count your days. It's already early in the season. This is a guy that I didn't want from the jump. Count your days. Because the inept ability to adapt into a situation and you were out coached by a team that has less talent than you and has a crappy OC that literally destroyed this offense last year. You have you have literally made Atlanta questionable when it comes to the offensive competency, even with all the talent that you have. So Kevin Stefanski, you're on the clock. We're seeing Cleveland have success at this point. Maybe it wasn't the ownership. We're seeing it as you now. So you gotta either get right or you get left, bro. Tyree.
Tyree Holland: Shout out to my Chicago Bears having a wonderful victory traveling to Seattle, man. Shout out to Ben Johnson, the culture he's establishing. Shout out to the GM Ryan And shout out to Caleb Williams, man. It feels good to have a franchise quarterback after all these years, man. And ladies and gentlemen, if the success continues, please forgive me. Because people like to say, act like you've been here before. I haven't. So accept it. Look, just accept my actions in the future. I'm just letting Rai and Andre know. Accept my actions. But
Dre: last time you were here, good brother, Jay Cutler was riding the exercise bike, so I understand.
Tyree Holland: You ain't lying, brother. You ain't lying.
The Historian: You just ignite.
Tyree Holland: Hey,
Dre: Yeah.
Tyree Holland: what This has been a phenomenal episode of Gridiron Views Episode 18. Daylight savings time. More life, more blessings.