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Speaker 1: Fresh episode of Fish Bites here on the Fish Stripes podcast channel. Eli Susman Here as usual, I am going to get you listeners caught up on the latest Marlins related developments, followed up by the Maiden Voyage, a brand new experiment that we're trying called the Marlins Dream Draft. Should be a fun exercise for anybody that studies up on the organization's young talent. So much more details on that coming up later in the show. Joining me on this pod, it's the entire Fish Army from the award winning Fish Army three to zero five Twitter account. A returning guest dish Fights. First up, Jacob Carrie on how's it going?
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Speaker 2: I'm good, A how are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Excellent? Excellent? We had Jacob on last August. That was with Danny Martinez hosting, and I interact with these guys pretty much every single day on Twitter. On the pod for the first time along with Jacob, it is Shane Sutton.
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Speaker 2: A Shane, how's it going there?
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Speaker 1: It's going excellent? Right so close, so close to the start of the season, like nine days away as we're recording this, and even closer once everybody gets a chance to listen to it. Sandy al Concert just named the opening day starter and the rest of the roster coming to the focus pretty soon. Flying up to Atlanta for the exhibition games. We're getting really close. Just some backgrounds, I guess for the listeners, for people that didn't listen to Jacob last year. I guess for some people that aren't on Twitter obsessively like we are. Can you tell folks a little bit about the account of how why you decided to come buying yourselves into a single account covering the Marlins, What your mission statement is, what your values are for that account? What what what do you try to bring into the world with Fish Army three h five.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that's one question.
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Speaker 3: That's a big question. Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 4: Well, I guess our our mission statement. You know, me and Shane, we we've been friends since the end of high school. Like that's when we became friends. We had actually played against each other once or twice when we were playing, you know, and right.
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Speaker 2: Long before we knew each other.
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Speaker 4: And I actually found like I had posted it before, like picture a picture of him and I played against each other. He was I was catching, he was hitting, and it was just it was just a cool coincidence. And I guess why we joined forces. I guess it was I guess it was just Shane's idea.
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Speaker 2: He just kind of like out of nowhere.
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Speaker 3: We didn't. We honestly never thought it was gonna get to the exact point that we're at right now, where we're constantly putting out content, even if it's silly little tweets every single day. It started as just funny, like us to engage ourselves within the fan base, and it got a lot more fun than we intended. I guess, Yeah, I don't know if we have, you know, like at least for me now. Yeah, I don't know if we have necessarily like a mission statement, but it's if there is one, it's it's just to engage ourself in the fan base. And I'm pretty sure you can attest to the fact that that's exactly what we do on a daily basis.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, then I think anybody more so than absolutely anybody.
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Speaker 2: It's incredible appreciate.
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Speaker 1: Every time I wake up in the morning there's stuff I missed from you guys, and when I go to sleep too early, there's stuff that goes on after dark. It's it's pretty incredible, and I kind of made up the award on the spot, but I consider you that account the Marlin's Twitter account of the year for twenty nineteen, last year, first year. Then got to go in and yeah, you brought a lot of entertainment value into our lives and in some good opinions too. That's why we have you on here too, because your knowledge of the organization is pretty thorough and I enjoy some of your takes, and that's why we're going to combine that into this Marlins stream draft. But before we get into that, there was some pretty recent news not officially official yet, but the Atlanta Braves are on the verge of signing Yasio Puigue on fish shipes and across most of Marlin So I think there was a lot of enthusiasm for the Marlins hopefully signing Peak, like during the middle of the off season. There were those rumors right around Christmas time and they made a real offer to him, ultimately spent that money on Corey Dickerson instead, And I mean, we reached a point right here where the fit wasn't there anymore. But I think there were plenty of people that were hoping hed with the Marlins, and certainly aren't thrilled to see that he's with a division rival. But for either of you, Uh, one thing that is unusual about your account is how engaged you are with other rival fan bases as well. You see, to put a lot of time and attention into uh, into clowning them and having good spirited discussions with them, but locked in more so than than I am. How do you see Braves fans reacting to that news of league signing at this late stage of the preseason.
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Speaker 2: Well, it seems like there's Braves. Braves fans are very large in numbers.
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Speaker 4: I think we all anybody who's spent five minutes on Twitter knows that they win every single pole, even when it just doesn't make sense that they're fun group to interact with. Most of them are good, are good guys and gals like they know the game. They they are. You know, every fan base has they're bad apples. But you know, since the Braves have a bigger number of fans a lot, they have ended more bad apple and it seems like a good chunck of them are happy about the deal. You know, an outfield of a Kunya, Twige and and Ozuna, that's an exciting outfield. You know, a lot of energy, a lot of enthusiasm, talented, you know, doesn't even need to be said, talented group of guys.
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2: So it seems like most of them are happy about it.
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Speaker 4: And then the other half that you know, the old respect the game crowd doesn't seem to who don't seem to appreciate Twig's antics, I guess you could say, And they don't seem to be too happy about the signing. So it seems to even split. As a Marls fan, like you said, a lot of us.
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Speaker 3: Were excited to.
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Speaker 2: Get yeah, for we to come here. You know, he's an exciting player. So it is what it is. You know, I'm just happy that he signed with a team at all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the most important thing. That he didn't miss out on a season. And we'll see it's a course gonna be a one year deal and we'll see what he looks like this year, and maybe the Marlins can reassess during the off season. But I mean, it seems like this would have been the exact time that he would come right because they had they had that little separation, you know, before this next wave of outfield prospects come up. He seems like that really perfect fit on like a pillow contract, just come in for one year, re established himself. Everybody goes crazy. But yeah, so it's well, we'll see he's gonna at least.
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Speaker 3: He's in the n least we get to have some fun with him, even if he's not in a Marlins uniform.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and Ozuna too, He gets to come back to the same division. So I love watching Ozuna play, So getting to see him play against the Marlins ten times this year that would be fun.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, We're gonna transition from there into this great idea that I came up with kind of randomly over the weekends and that I'm still trying to find soon. But this is gonna be our first attempt at doing what we'll call a Marlins draft. It's taking stock of I guess at this moment, there's still a couple hundred players in the Marlins organization, everybody from those vets that are hanging on by a little thread to some of the teenagers that they just drafted or signed internationally, and we're going to pick the ones that we want to keep. Most of all, it's tough to choose favorites to prioritize these things. But it's a good problem to have with this organization right now because they have so much depth at most of these positions, guys that not just with their talent and their potential, but you really like what they bring off the field and how they can represent the franchise in a positive way. So I came up with this idea to choose the guys that you really want to stick with, imagining for the next ten years. You have these guys forming a single lineup for you, and I think it's more intriguing when you go head to ahead with other people making some tough decisions. I think really the best case in this situation is that I steal some guys that you guys really love, and vice versa, picking some of the players that I really believe in moving forward but don't get the chance to get because we're gonna go alternating back and forth
with you two teaming up Jacob and Shane, a Fish Army team versus a Fish Stripes team, drafting back and forth, and we're gonna go twelve rounds deep. We're gonna take one player to be a catcher, a first baseman, a second baseman, a shortstop, a third baseman, three outfielders, a DH a starting pitcher, a relief pitcher, and then one wild card that could be at any position. So we'll go twelve rounds deep in twenty four total picks, and a lot of things to take into consideration here, probably some things that I haven't even thought of yet. But we're picking up players for the next ten years, so age is gonna be a pretty big factor here. You know, if you trust Brandon Kinseler to be a great closer at age forty five, even though he's thirty five right now, you think he's going to age gracefully, then maybe you take a swing, but probably not. At the same time, you've seen some of these new draft picks. They haven't played in any real games yet. You might not expect anything from them in the majors in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, but all of a sudden, if they hit up in the near future, then all of a sudden, that's a guy that you really want to build a franchise around. Because you are the guests here, you're going to get the first overall pick, and you're in different locations. So this whole process could be a little bit awkward, that deliberate right here over the caller. I guess you can message each other privately to strategize as best you can. But with the first overall pick, if you're going to pick anybody in this Marlins organization right now to lead off our dream Draft, who's it going to be?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 2: I wish we had prepared.
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Speaker 3: In hindsight, we got Shane.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Shane, you said yourself your favorite prospect or his Jazz. Yeah, I know, Craig Mesh says Leywan Diaz is the best Marlins prospect, and damn if Craig says it, it's true.
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Speaker 4: But like I don't know something about Jazz. You know he's got the sauce.
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Speaker 2: So I think we're gonna take him.
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Speaker 1: The first overall pick in the first ever Marlins Dream Draft. Shortstop Jazz is all right.
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Speaker 2: Now that I'm here, I really can see it coming.
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Speaker 4: And I'm telling you is Marlin, we're gonna win a championship in two or three years.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, for me, this is pretty easy, and I'm not even gonna go the same direction as you guys. I value major league production quite a bit, and we have one guy who's been great at the major league level each of the last two years for the Marlins. It's Brian Anderson who this year. He's uh, he's looking even more prepared this year than he has been the previous two and he's put a lot of right fields the last two years, but his natural position is third base. He's an exceptional defender of that position. And we know the potential he showed, especially right before his injury last year, how hot he
could get with the bat, and especially with the fences coming in at Marlin Sparkins centerfield and in the right center I think he's gonna have more over the fence power going in that direction. He's gonna be a really consistent hitter for a long time. Just turned twenty seven years old, so he's gonna be entering his peak pretty soon. And I think he's gonna stay at that level for a long time. So number two overall pick, my first rounder is gonna be Brian Anderson. And we'll hand it back to you.
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Speaker 4: Troubled last time out, good shot went down the line, Yechny around third. Brian Anderson is the hero today the Marlins.
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Speaker 1: Within a walk off win.
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Speaker 3: Grave He's not the wrong way that pick at all.
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Speaker 2: No be it.
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Speaker 4: Shane has a bet Jersey, so he knows, like we know, how agree he is. He's gonna very underrated in the baseball world. Hopefully that changes suit soon. So, man, I know, our catching depth in the organization is pretty thin. You know, you have Will Banfield, who's great defensively, but there's a lot of questions about his bat, whether it can perform in the upper levels of the miners and in the big leagues at all.
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Speaker 2: In reality that I.
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Speaker 4: Wouldn't be surprised if they go after somebody in free agency, if especially if a certain former Philly doesn't pan out. But I guess for our pip right now, I mean, who else could we go for except you know horde Al Farrol.
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Speaker 2: You know he is. You know he's a young cat catcher. I think he's twenty five or just turned twenty six. I'm not totally sure.
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Speaker 4: You know, big big catcher, over two hundred pounds.
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Speaker 2: Second in what is it velo to a second.
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Speaker 4: I think he's just like just under eighty eight miles per hour on the throat a second, right behind J. T.
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Speaker 2: Real Mudo who's number one.
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Speaker 4: A lot of tools of the plate, good swing very excited to see how he progresses this year with the addition of James Rawson coming from the Twins. So yeah, I thinks gotta go with Farrow here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Rouson actually had a pretty encouraging update about him today. He spoke to the media and touched on you know a lot of different players and how they're progressing in camp, and Yeah, there's really never any doubt about what Alfar does when he makes impact with the ball. I think last year he hit each of the three longest home runs that anybody on the teammate. He's just got to have that discipline at the plate. I mean it's pretty he gets ugly at times, but that's that's something that can be fixed, and you're pretty hopeful about it. And I understand why. And this is where the strategy comes in, because now that he is off the board, I mean, I could wait a while before going for a catcher, you know, I know that we can get pretty far down here, and I could shift my attention to other positions. I think,
yeah, this might not be a super popular pick because when we started recording. Right before we started recording, I mentioned that people's opinions shift very rapidly. They get. People overreact to a lot of small things. And one guy that we haven't seen very much of at all for the Marlins over almost a full year now is six Do Sanchez. He was a major league camp, didn't any games, rumblings about his conditioning and all that. Some concerns of course about his durability that he had before the trade, but all that thing said, he's been, in my eyes, the best prospect the organization ever since they got him in the trade for real mutual year and a half ago. He seemed healthy. Now he's in good spirits. He's just exceptionally well rounded as a pitcher. I don't know, but there's there's no no real holes in his pitching game. The command that he has is exceptional. His fastball and his change up in particular are plus plus. And when he's using his breaking ball to go along with that, he's the guy that's so efficient. He's going to stick as a starter. He's going to be in the big leagues very soon, probably not on an opening day, but hopefully at some point in twenty twenty, and if not, shortly after that. And I don't know if he's going to be, you know, a super duperstar. I'm not necessarily that much on board, but I feel so comfortable about his floor and being a big part of this rotation for a long long time, not even twenty two years old. Yet, he's not even at his twenty second birthday, and he's going to be my second round pick and my starting pitcher.
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Speaker 5: Called strike three fastball or inside corner, I actually may have been the change of ninety miles per hour on the inside part of the plate. Larnick strikes out looking now there's one a way.
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Speaker 2: Nice, So I think I really like it.
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Speaker 4: I like about six oh is he pounds his own something I had talked about recently on the on the account.
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Speaker 2: I love, uh Sandy al Cantata.
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Speaker 4: He's he's got good stuff too, but something he struggles with is getting ahead of the account and just you know, staying in the zone. Whenever he gets razzled or he gets into trouble, he'll he'll he'll lose his aggressiveness in the zone and that's where he gets into trouble. And that's and for six those cases, that's it's just not the case. You know.
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Speaker 3: Uh, we've been we've been shotting behind the scenes. We figured it'd be more you know, useful for us for the sake of getting the better, the better roster. We're going with Edward Cabrera.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like you know six oh, he's probably, like you said, he's probably the best prospect in the organization. But it seems like from guys like Craig mentioned I think you've tweeted before, it seems like most people in the organization seemed to be as high or if not even higher on Edward Cabrera.
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Speaker 2: And I've a.
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Speaker 4: Few I haven't seen a
pitch in person, but what I have been able to watch, you know, on just on online.
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Speaker 2: He's got good stuff. He pounds his own.
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Speaker 4: Throws hard, got good, has a good secondary pitches.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think same things. I think he's gonna be a good big league pitcher for a long time.
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Speaker 1: And I mean he's one of the rare guys that was inherited from the old ownership. That's the thing is we look at and we see almost everybody has turned over over the last couple of years during the rebuilding. He's the guy that was signs out of the dr back in like twenty fifteen, and there wasn't a whole lot to get excited about, initially his first couple of years and in the minor league baseball, and then of course last year he just took a huge leap forward with Jupiter, and then he kept it up when he got promoted to Jacksonville. So yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be shocked if he turns out to be a better pitcher in the major league. I mean, obviously I believe a little bit more in six to zero, but it's hard to go on, go on, And so that's gonna be your third round pick, number five. Overall, it's back to me for number six. And this is where I'll go with Lewin Diaz, the guy who whose stock has erupted ever since he got traded to the Marlins and the Sergio Romo trade last year. He's he's incredible. He's incredible, and it's hard to get too excited about a first base only prospect, but he's he's everything you want in a first base and he's extremely smooth defensively, and he has power to all fields. He didn't really show it a whole lot playing in the Twin system in twenty eighteen. His stock was really far down. He was a guy that was unprotected in the Rule five draft back in the winner of twenty eighteen. Any team could have picked him and put him straight on the major league roster, and nobody did because he was that you know, it was that inconsistent. In that season, he made a new commitment to working out, and you know the results followed up all throughout twenty nineteen. One of the best tower hitters in minor league baseball. He went to the Dominican Winter League. He won Rookie of the Year in the Dominican Winter League. He went to spring training with the Marlins, and he matched a couple of dingers with the Marlins in spring training. And now he's at summer camp and he's sitting homers off of more major league pitchers.
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Speaker 4: Oh and high in the air, pretty deep to center, lead the center field rother run on the warning track, looks up, it's god.
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Speaker 6: Laywinds home on us graight away center and Jacksonville Luds who won nothing in the four.
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Speaker 1: You've seen the comps, of course, to Carlos Delgado, that's the most popular one. I think that might be a little bit of an overreaction again, but I definitely see similarities to perhaps a left handed version of Derek Lee, who was of course in the Marlins organization and then went on went to the Cubs, especially the
build that he has, and it's the defense also, because that's the thing that you really shouldn't totally overlook that people will will note some things about how first base isn't all that important, and there are so many things you can do to make life easier on your teammates at that position, and he does them. So I'm thrilled with him. I think there's a pretty decent chance we see him in the majors this year, and once he gets there, he's going to stick around a while. So he is my pick, my third rounder, and obviously my first basement.
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Speaker 2: I love Lewen. He's going to be good too. Totally. I think it's a good pick.
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Speaker 4: I can't I still I can't believe that we were able to flip Sergio Romo at the deadline for him along with Chris Vallomont, who it's another good pitching prospect. But it just goes to show the pitching depth that the organization and has had since Jeter came in, and now we're able to use the the influx of pitchers, you know, to make deals to fill up any holes that we have.
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Speaker 2: Same thing happened with Jazz Chism for the Zach Gallan trade and just.
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Speaker 4: And also another power hitting lefty first baseman that the Twins let go, you know, like like David Ortiz. Maybe hopefully he has the same success in October for us, like big Poppyhead in Boston.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be a decent outcome.
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Speaker 3: Yeah for.
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Speaker 4: Real, he just would be great if he just turned into one of the greatest power hitters ever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: So next Nick, we're going Vandy. We're going Vandy boys. I guy go jj Blade.
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Speaker 2: You know, he will won a.
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Speaker 4: College World's won the College World Series with Vanderbilt, and his senior year drafted uh fourth overall in twenty nineteen, And I saw this dude hitting Jupiter and he looks big.
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Speaker 2: He almost looks big league.
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Speaker 4: Ready then, and he probably even and at any extra work he did in the off season, he's he's he's a guy.
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Speaker 2: That will probably get to the big leagues. I would assume by next year, about two years from now the latest.
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Speaker 4: You know, he's just gonna be I think he's gonna he's gonna he's as bad as second to none, he's he's gonna sorry, I.
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Speaker 2: Just I think, I like, I think, and you want to.
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Speaker 3: Hit the ship out of the ball. I think that's where you that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was is number one on my outfield list for this so yeah, you definitely right around. I don't know if I was gonna get him with my next week, I was, I was close, he was, he was coming up on my queue, so that was. Yeah. That was a good pick, good strategic pick and makes all the sense in the world. He's yeah, he's amazing. He's amazing, and.
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Speaker 2: Uh, there's not much really to say about him.
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Speaker 4: It's just like like I was trying to find something interesting or new to say about JJ, but there's nothing new to be said.
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Speaker 2: It's it's all it's all outs, all out there.
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Speaker 4: He's going to be a a good, big leader, hopefully just as a testament to how advanced he is as a hit or and.
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Speaker 2: As a player in general.
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Speaker 4: It's just that after he was drafted in twenty nineteen, just like a couple of months later, he was already in high ad Jupiter, you know, and you know, not a lot of players skip the you know, low rookie ball and low and low a and he was able to make that jump.
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Speaker 2: He didn't dazzle anybody, but he didn't.
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Speaker 4: He didn't.
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Speaker 2: He was no scrub either.
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Speaker 4: He was able to keep his own and for his first couple of months in pro ball, I was really excited to see how he progressed this year with a full professional season, whether it was at Jupiter or Jacksonville. So that's another bummer about this whole everything going on right now in twenty twenty. So definitely going to be excited to see him play actual games in twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you kind of undersold him a little bit right there because his that decision to put him straight into HIGA. I couldn't find anybody in the Marlins organization that has ever done that that type. To play your first professional game at HIGA, only a couple levels below the big leagues, that's something that they haven't done with any other prospect and just.
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Speaker 2: Shows the confidence they have in them, right.
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Speaker 1: And how much they believe that his college career prepared him to succeed in the pros. And yeah, we're going to find out pretty soon with him. So I'm going to take a very interesting curve right here, something that again prioritizing major league production over the prospect pedigree. A new addition to the Marlins organization Jonathan Vrr, who last year was the best player on the Orioles Great Power of forty stolen bases, and in his career he has been one of the most valuable base runners in all baseball the last handful of years. He's probably gonna be a Marlin for only one year in real life, but that's why what we're doing right here is this is the dream. This is the dream, and we're gonna lock him up for the rest of his relevant years in the major leagues. He's what twenty eight to twenty nine years old. I think he just turned twenty nine, So he might be right now as good as he's ever gonna be. But right now he is really versatile. He is that great bas runner and he's coming off of here where he hit twenty four homers. What exactly that looks like in Marlins Park, We're gonna have to find out. But as a switch hitter and as someone that has this nice track record in the major leagues, it's not just in twenty nineteen, but before that a handful of years in Milwaukee that he was a really valuable player and someone that I just like the fit. I
like the versatility, and if worse comes to worse going into the future with a designated hitter in the National League, if he really falls off in that department, then at least you still get his bat and his legs in the lineup, even if you don't know exactly what to do with his glove. I am going to draft him as a second baseman. So that's where because we're gonna sign a position to each one of these players to make sure that, yeah, we address we address every single position along the way, and we are. We are now through four rounds of the draft. Just to recap where we are, you guys, Fish Army as drafted shortstop Jess Chisholm, catcher Jorge al Farrow, starting pitcher Edward Cabrera, and outfielder JJ Blade. I have third baseman Brian Anderson, starting pitcher six Dos Sanchez, first baseman Leywan Diez, and now second baseman Jonathan vr and we head into round five.
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Speaker 2: All right, Shane, I think take it from here, man.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna go with Monte Harrison.
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Speaker 2: I know we're going pretty prospect heavy on this one.
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Speaker 4: I know you say you value the MLB talent, but just hard, it's hard to not get noted about Monte. Yeah, it's just I know, we uh all we've had so far this year has been spring training and the interest squad games in summer camp. But I don't know, It's just I don't see a world where he's not on the opening day roster in two thousand and two that you know, in this year and whenever the season starts, you know, he brings a lot of excitement, a lot of speed to the game. You know, his bat has just improved since he got to the organization, especially in the last year, made some mechanical adjustments, like uh, he took out that big leg kick he came in with. He seems like a seems like he's striking out less. He's just making more solid contact all around.
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Speaker 1: Three one pitch, fly ball, well hit right.
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Speaker 5: Field, hep ball's got some carry, hop ball's gonna get out.
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Speaker 4: Hop ball's a home run from Buddy Harrison, And.
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Speaker 1: We are tied at three whole opposite field power there by Paris.
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Speaker 4: And and just like with Al Farrow, with the addition of James Rowson, I'm excited to see how those two help his swing. Like Monte has a lot of tools, a lot of talent. I know a lot of people are a little skeptical on anybody and that Christian Yellow straight after. Yeah, I'm sure people are skeptical, but after what's happening with with Lewis and people seem to have given up on him. I know, we may we make jokes a lot, but I we wish nothing but success for him. You know, it's just having good fun with him and also people and also his son's gone off to a slow start.
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Speaker 2: But I don't know, it's just I hope he's I hope Monte is different.
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Speaker 4: I hope he's able to I hope they're all able to pull together and have good big league careers. But I'm just really excited about Monte.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like something to prove, especially like Jacob said after that, coming off of the being one of the puts Peanuts traded for Yelich and amongst the four, I feel he's certainly one of the ones that has something that I look forward to seeing in the future for sure.
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Speaker 1: And to me, I just think the key for them and it's hard to get inside anybody's head, but so important to distance themselves from the trade and not try to think about yourselves as just denying the trade and feel like you have to redeem it for anybody, because that's that's just not the way to go about it. You can't control what Yelich is doing over there and the kind of brilliance that he showed in and it's not he can't take any responsibility for it. It's not their fault that they were connected to them, that they were part of that deal. It's out of their control. And I think more than that you're able to distance yourself from that and just focus on what you can do is so important, And I guess what's really what's encouraging. I guess is how the fan base has embraced him and how they've been patient. You know, it has been about two and a half years since that trade and then in a major league regular season game yet. But because of all the coverage who've been able to see throughout his journey as a prospect and now what we're seeing in summer camp and spring training, we've been able to see a lot of him and see him as a person as well, because he is a really well rounded person off the field, aside from just lighting things up with all the tools that he has as a baseball player, and because fans are embracing him for who he is right now, I mean, hopefully that helps. But we're gonna find out for real probably next week. You're right, because we you know, we just put out an article on the projected opening day roster and he's on it. I think he's gonna make it, especially with some of the other setbacks they had in the outfield. Right now, there's gonna be playing time available from the start of the season, and they got those extra spots on the roster, so he's gonna be there. He's gonna be there, and I'm pretty excited about him too. And once again, I'm pretty annoyed because he was high up on my own list and he was coming up here in the draft, but instead I will have to go to the next outfielder up from me, And this is the first outfielder I'm taking. It's Heyesuss Sanchez, consensus top one hundred prospect in all of baseball, someone that is a couple of years younger than Monte. Not to brag, but he's two right now and just like Monte's on the forty man roster, has experience in the high miners, and after originally starting summer camp he was training in the alternate site and Jupiter. You know, he's been with the big leaguers the last week or so of camp. It shows you how seriously they think of him as a player. Maybe not an opening day, but he's going to come up in the very near future. And he's been a highly regarded prospect
like his entire professional career. He was signed, of course by Tampa Bay. Originally he got traded over last summer, and with him, the results really don't value. The results that he's had in minor league games, not the kind of big numbers you're expecting. And I mean, really the one major hang up is for someone that has so much raw power, he hasn't shown it all that much in games themselves. But I mean, when you see the way that this guy is doing in batting practice, the kind of reviews that he gets from all the coaches that he works with and his teammates, you know that talents is in there, and you know he's in a good spot developmentally with the Marlins, where if they did have any concerns about any part of his game that you expect him to improve, whether it's the same coaches that we think have helped some of these other prospects over the last couple of years, He's got all the resources he needs to really harness his game and put it all together. I predict that just a couple of months from now, by the time we get to the end of this short and twenty twenty season, we're going to see him in the majors, and I think the opinion on him from fan base is going to flip a lot, and this is going to look like an amazing value for me once we fast forward a couple of months and get to actually see him in major league games. So he's my fifth round, your number ten overall, and we're almost halfway through. We're gonna start our six rounds going back to you guys.
00:34:10
Speaker 4: Right, And I hope all these prospects pan out in real life, because this is just so exciting.
00:34:16
Speaker 7: For the next pick.
00:34:19
Speaker 4: God, and also, thank goodness the DH is coming to the National League, because that's where we're going to pick next, because we're taking Gerard and Karnacion.
00:34:28
Speaker 2: His swing, the ball just shumps.
00:34:31
Speaker 4: Off his bat like the footage from him in the Arizona Fall League, and I think he went yard a couple of times in spring training, one against Houston, I think one against the Mets if I remember correctly.
00:34:44
Speaker 2: Just tons of power.
00:34:46
Speaker 1: Uh.
00:34:47
Speaker 4: Some some conversation on Twitter is that his swing is a little reminiscent of another.
00:34:52
Speaker 2: Former Marlin gen Carlos Stanton Uh, and I could see it.
00:34:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, they both have that similar short, powerful swing, two handed finish, not a lot of movements. Yeah.
00:35:07
Speaker 2: I was almost to have to take him as the wild card because but.
00:35:11
Speaker 4: Since the DH is more more or less confirmed, like coming to stay, like coming to stay here in the National League, I think I think we're gonna take him as the DH.
00:35:22
Speaker 2: What do you think?
00:35:23
Speaker 3: No, I couldn't have agreed more as far as the DH goes. That's exactly the type of guy we're looking for. It's gonna be weird to see like the route that management will take for the position, considering we've
never seen anyone in any Obviously this is a very brought Sam, but anybody in the National League, I have to assume the position of DH. But yeah, looking ahead, that's definitely somebody that will be at the top of my list for designated hitter for sure.
00:35:53
Speaker 1: There is this great highlight of him from the Arizona Fall League, because he was out there this past fall where he hit a Monster Grants slamb in the championship game and it turned out to be the game winning Grand Slam And I love to play it because the sound off his bat in that clip is like nothing you ever see it. It's such a perfect microcosm of who he is as a player and why you're so excited about him. But the problem is he hits the home run against Stirling Sharp, who is now a Marlins prospect. So I always feel bad putting it out there because I don't mean to take a dig against the guy that's now part of the organization and is probably going to be part of the organization for a few years to come as pitching prospect. But it's that's just kind of reinforces like how a special this guy could be because of the impact he's able to have in the Fall League, which is a pretty high level of competition, almost all the top prospects from around the majors in a normal year playing the Fall League, and just the way that he was able to do that in that setting, and he backed it up in spring training. I mean, you guys saw it. He had an opposit sidfield home run two against I forget it was one of the major league pitchers on the Mets during spring training. He's yeah, he's impressive. Another guy that when you speak to people in the Marlins organization, they have pretty outrageous comparisons, including dropping Stanton's name as a guy that has the same kind of power that an Garasion does. Another one that I don't want to put too much credibility behind that comparison between Gerar and Stanton. I don't think he's going to be there as an all round player, but as a hitter alone, there's a lot of promise there. I mean, the one name that came to mind to me is Mark Trumbo. Mark Trumbo, who one year led the American League in home runs and a lot of other years was among the leaders in that category. Not the most graceful athlete, but someone that has incredible power and he has that huge build, and even as he deserves a lot of credit too, just as a natural hitter himself, it's not all like it's not all or nothing with him. There's a lot of other positive ways that he impacts the game even when he's not going deep. So I think he's gonna be around a long time. And that's a good pick by you guys here in the sixth rounds. And this is where I'm going to use my wild card because I want more pitching, and I want more pitching with big upside. I'm going to take Max Meyer as my right behind six Do Sanchez and both those guys that I really have a hard time drawing too much of a distinction between them. They're both incredible to me. And the one hang up with six Do in a lot of people's eyes is his height being only six foot even. And that's the same thing with Max Meyer. I mean, that's the reason why people didn't see him as a fit with the Marlins that high in the draft this year, the number three overall pick, Like, why would you invest so much in a guy that's only six feet tall? There's just not that many starting pitchers that look like that. Why not go with Ace Lacey. Ace Lacey was the guy that checked all the boxes, And so they end up going under slot value and taking Max Meyer. And the more you look into him, the more convinced I am that he's going to be a top of the rotation kind of guy. Is he had the best pure stuff out of anybody in this draft class. The fastball v low is off the charts. He's been tracked as high as like one hundred and two with his fastball in some games, and someone that regularly sits in the high nineties. And of course the slider is even more deadly. Put in that conversation, one of the best sliders that some scouts have ever seen. The velocity that he gets with that pitch into the low nineties, but also the way that he's able to spot it exactly where you want it low and a way to right handed hitters, and just as effective when he throws it into lefties as well. It's just a pitch that is so difficult to coordinate as a hitter. And when he gets ahead in the count, and he always gets ahead in the count because he has really excellent man's then he's a guy that has no hit stuff, like every time he takes the mounds. Twenty one years old. Added to the Marlins playerpool this year. Another type of guy that if everything breaks right, you see him in the majors this year. Most likely though in twenty twenty one, and I just had to have him. I had to have him, even though I already took my starting pitcher. I loved myself some six though I needed more, and you guys let him fall to me, and I'm happy with that. So we're halfway through and I'm feeling pretty confident. But we go to you with your seventh round pick.
00:40:37
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna go.
00:40:39
Speaker 2: For our relief pitcher, Alex Macia, left hander.
00:40:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not somebody you'll hear a lot about in the on you know, Marlins fan talk about him.
00:40:54
Speaker 8: He's not written one of the higher rate of prospects, but he's you know, according to you know, any of those baseball sites. But I think, you know, he's gonna be a really good bullpen left handed piece and bullpend could be a really good closure one day.
00:41:11
Speaker 4: And I just think, yeah, I think he's good pick.
00:41:15
Speaker 2: I think he's his gameble age. Well, so we're taking him.
00:41:21
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to complain because he hasn't allowed a run in over a year, over like a calendar year. He had that incredible scoreless streak that is still ongoing. When through Jupiter, when he's in Jacksonville, he's in the Fall League. When he was in spring training, he's he's been unstoppable, and he's a guy that is just I mean, it's one of the low
key, incredible moves that the organization has made during this entire rebuild. And you mentioned some of them, like earlier in the pod about some some of these trades that are already looking really good for the team. But when you draft someone like him in the seventeenth round of the draft and you have him already on the fast track to the majors, it's, I mean, that never happens, and that might never happen again. We don't know if there's gonna be another draft that goes seventeen round steep if if he's coming out this year would have been undrafted and someone that is uh yeah, he's pretty great. He's pretty great and doesn't exactly fit the pro type for being a lights out closer in terms of his v low but everything else that you're looking for three pitches that he really trusts the results to match there, and he's uh yeah, he just keeps stepping up every time they promote him. He's just more and more dominant. So yeah, that's that's a good call right there with my seventh round pick. Let's see what did I just side on here? I just had it in my mind. There still a lot of good directions to go. Ooh yeah. So I'm gonna go another one of these major league veterans that you guys are shying away from. I'm not afraid to embrace the old guys. I'm not afraid to live with their decline over the next handful of years, because this guy brings some of these intangibles that never declined, that never go away. My shortstop is going to be Miguel Rojas, someone that has been with this organization for what about almost six years now, and he's the honorary captain of this team. If they were to name anybody as a captain, someone that not that long ago, he had fish stripes blocked on Twitter and that drove me crazy. But ever since then, he's so impressive. I lived with that for over a year and a half, but we have mended our relationship and he's been He's coming off a really good year as an overall player. I mean, he ended up batting at the top of the Marlins lineup for most of twenty nineteen and his usual excellent defense at shortstop. But you know, he has that versatility to play other positions as well. I mean, for the sake of this exercise, I'm sticking with him at shorts. He's someone that has been so smooth at that position, even though he kind of he doesn't have that amazing athleticism, He doesn't really those those individual tools that sometimes make someone a really electrifying defender. He overcomes that with just great instincts and a great understanding of the game and fundamentals. The kind of work that he puts in to be a great fundamental player, it shows. And that's why he's such a great story for someone that didn't have any prospect hype whatsoever when he was coming up a handful of years ago. He's been able to overachieve by anybody's expectations and become a pretty integral part of the team. So he's going to be my captain, my seventh round pick, my shortstop, and at this moment about thirty one years old. So I'm sticking with him throughout his entire thirties that he could have some sort of positive impact in some way throughout the next decade. Even if it's not every day player.
00:45:01
Speaker 4: No, right, I totally totally agree, I know, but go that.
00:45:09
Speaker 2: No.
00:45:09
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, like, even though uh, he too has his blocked at the moment on Twitter, I still we still can't discuss Mickey Rose.
00:45:19
Speaker 2: You know, yes, I don't know, he didn't we'd ever Like.
00:45:25
Speaker 4: The last tweet I ever sent to him before he blocked us was I called him the like just a captain, like nothing, a positive tweet and then he blocked me. And then I asked him to unblock us.
00:45:37
Speaker 2: On my personal account, and then he blocked me there too, And I think the same thing happened as.
00:45:42
Speaker 3: Shame, Yeah I did. It was really a little bit disappointing to see that. But I'm sure there's something that he got mixed between the lines of what we may have really intended or what he took it as personally. But despite that, like at the end of the day, Twitter's Twitter. It's a silly place to begin with. But if you're talking about ten years down the line for players, even if he wasn't, he's a little over the hill. As you say, he's thirty one years old. Even if his abilities don't pan out like right now, he's arguably the best glove on the team. Like that's not even it's not hard to realize that. But the most important thing he can do for the future of our organization is welcome the young guys that we're talking about here today into what it means to be a major League baseball player. And he's, as we've all seen, fantastic at being that guy that everyone should look up to on the team and being the person that you know, keeps everyone's heads up during the game. It's going to be you know, the Marlins have had long seasons for the past. Who knows who can keep counting more how many years? And he seems to make those guys out there like just bring everyone together and have a lot of fun, you know with the with the the thug life sunglasses and all that stuff. He's great energy to the team. And and yeah, as even though despite his age, he's a fantastic pick for the future.
00:47:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, and just going bouncing off that now that it's like you said, like the intangibles that he brings into a into a major league clubhouse is second to none.
00:47:26
Speaker 2: He's really accepted that role as the captain.
00:47:29
Speaker 1: Of the team.
00:47:29
Speaker 2: He's take.
00:47:30
Speaker 9: It's obviously he's taken an inspiration from Derek Jeter. And you know, he came as as just a throw in and the Dee Gordon trade back in twenty fourteen, and he.
00:47:41
Speaker 7: Was nobody really get it at the time. There wasn't much of a thought of about him. People more concerned with, you know, Dee Gordon, right and rightfully so. De Gordon was a great player for us.
00:47:54
Speaker 10: But just to see how far he's come along from
that, you know, putting in the work, you know, improving his own offense, keeping his defense at the caliber it is.
00:48:04
Speaker 2: It's respectable.
00:48:05
Speaker 4: I have nothing but respect and I admire him, and I'm happy that he is in Miami Blue for sure.
00:48:14
Speaker 1: And I'll see what I can do about the Twitter thing now, because that was in your shoes and it was frustrating. And we'll see, we'll see, we'll try to get it figured out. Even though you didn't draft, even though you let him fault me in the draft, I'll say, at the other positive things, put in a good word for you. We're in the eighth round of this draft. Who who he hauys take with that pick?
00:48:37
Speaker 4: Yes, like you said, we've been kind of shying away from major league talent in the organization in this draft period.
00:48:44
Speaker 2: You know, we've been more focused on the young guys.
00:48:46
Speaker 7: Except for Alfaro, he's the only one that has any any big league experience on this roster.
00:48:52
Speaker 2: But for the next guy, the same deal with Rohas.
00:48:55
Speaker 9: I think he brings in a lot of intangible things, intangibles to the to the team and the clubhouse.
00:49:02
Speaker 4: And I think it's a guy like Corey Dickerson. You know, he's just signed a two year deal with the Fish.
00:49:08
Speaker 2: You know, he's that lefty bat in the lineup, good corner outfielder, but he's that guy that does that leads by example. He doesn't say too much.
00:49:18
Speaker 4: He just goes about his day, you know, does his work, and those are things that when you're trying to rebuild a franchise in an organization and you're trying to build it from the ground up like the Moms are doing.
00:49:29
Speaker 2: That's the type of guy you want on your team, and that's the.
00:49:31
Speaker 4: Type of guy you want around your young prospects because that's what that's the mentality and work ethic that you need to have to be successful in the big league.
00:49:40
Speaker 2: So a guy a team with Corey Dickerson on. It is a young team. With Corey Dickerson on, it is a better team.
00:49:47
Speaker 4: So yeah, I got I gotta take him absolutely.
00:49:52
Speaker 1: His twenty eighteen season went really under the radar, but Dickerson was like on the short list of better corner outfielders in baseball in twent not just a great hitter because he has been a consistent hitter now for most of his career, but also defensively with the Pirates that year, a Gold Glove winner at someone that yeah, there are some parallels to Rojas in like more ways than one, including the fact that, yeah, he doesn't have off the charts athleticism. In fact, there was. It wasn't that long ago when he was with Tampa Bay that they were insisting on making him a d h a lot of days. But the kind of work that he puts into his defense and getting good reads off the ball and understanding how to move efficiently with his body, that route efficiency when you're in the outfield and getting under
the ball anyway he can. He's someone that has mastered all that to make himself a real big asset out there aside from his bat. So as long as he's healthy, I mean he is. He's going to be a sneaky value for you guys forward also on the older side a little bit. So it's all dependent on, you know, how much longer you really trust him to maintain this level of play. Here in the eighth round, for me at number where we number sixteen overall, I will go with another outfielder. I only have one outfielder so far, So my second outfielder, I'm taking Cameron Meisner, who was the first round supplemental pick from the Marlins in the twenty nineteen draft, right after JJ Bledet, who was entering like twenty nineteen. He was one of the best collegiate players in the country, no doubt about it, just extremely off the charts tools and the potential to stick in center field. That's the really important thing for me at this point, because you guys got Monte and even Bladet has some potential to play center in an emergency. But when you go further down there, there's not all that many guys if you really trust defensively at all the outfield positions, and Meisner is one of them. And he's someone that fell in the draft because he had that slump in conference play. In nineteen. The results weren't there, the strikeouts were a little bit high, but he kind of alleviated a lot of those concerns right after the draft. They sent them to Low A in Clinton, and he was one of the better players immediately at that level when they put him there. Just a really well rounded player who has a great eye at the plate in his disciplines who I wouldn't be shocked. I think there is a universe where he winds up as the best player that the Marlins got in the twenty nineteen draft. That is somewhat of the hot takes and think that he would ever surpass all day, but he has those kind of tools and just needs opportunity to adjust to the pro level. It did, you know, raise a little bit of a red flag to me that he wasn't in the player pool. You know, the Marlins have a sixty man player pool for this season, even guys that they know aren't going to be playing in the big leagues. They put a lot of their top prospects there and they didn't put Meisner there, so that, you know, that raised a little bit of a red flag that they weren't able to squeeze him in but I'll be looking at that Leslie to see if he gets in there at some point during the season, because that is subject to change if he puts it all together. I think he is an all star caliber player, just a great outfielder that really crushes the ball. He crushes the ball. He plays every outfield position, and I like what I saw from him in limited action in twenty nineteen. We're now two thirds of the way through the draft, and so I'll get a little recap of the positions that we have available. So you guys got you got your shortstop, you got your catcher, you got your starting pitcher, your relief pitcher, your designated hitter, you got all three of your outfielder. So you guys still have a first baseman, second baseman, a third baseman, and a wild card to pick. And I still have who do I still have? I still have one outfielder I have. I got one more outfielder to pick and d H and a relief pitcher and a catcher. So we are entering round nine of this draft, four more rounds to go. Oh what do you got?
00:54:14
Speaker 11: Well, to be honest, you did you kind of uh did us dirty on first base because Lewin that vote, it's we're just kidding. But I guess at first base we'll go back with major league talent with Garrett Cooper. I know there's a lot of concerns about, you know, his ability to stay healthy, uh for a full major league season, But like Cooper said, a lot of those injuries that have put on the sidelines for a while have been freak occurrences. You know, a pitcher throwing a ball up and then I would hit his hand or or anything like that. Stuff that's kind of out of his control and not necessarily his own fault.
00:54:54
Speaker 2: At the moment. I still I still believe in him. I think he could put I think he.
00:54:58
Speaker 4: Has the ability to stay healthy over the course of a major league season. He's you know, he's got the bat that he and he could play decent first base.
00:55:06
Speaker 2: He cand dh if he if you know, his defense isn't up the par and yeah no. And I think I'm not sure how old he is.
00:55:17
Speaker 4: I think he's either twenty nine or probably like thirty, not sure exactly. But another guy that you see like around the clubhouse puts in works hard. Another guy that I think you know adds to the clubhouse culture.
00:55:33
Speaker 2: And you know, and I think he makes a team better. So yeah, Cooper first.
00:55:39
Speaker 1: Favorite home run this year courtesy of Garrett Cooper.
00:55:44
Speaker 4: He sends one deep to the left center field that's gone.
00:55:51
Speaker 2: Solo hover for Garrett Cooper.
00:55:54
Speaker 4: Is he eleven?
00:55:57
Speaker 1: So with my ninth round pick, I finally have to pick up a relief pitcher, and I'm going to convert a starting pitcher into a reliever. It's going to be George Guzman, someone that also has a Yankee connection, of course, acquired in the gian Carlo Stanton trade and had it was coming off a great year in the minor leagues when the Marlins acquired him. Then took a pretty big step back in twenty eighteen, his first year in the Marlins organization, and then took another step forward in twenty nineteen. He spent all last year at Double A, and it was such a complicated year because on one hands, he threw a ton of innings. He threw about one hundred and thirty innings in the minors, which is hard to do because it's a short season and you're supposed to be really protective of people's arms. But yet he put in that really big workload at the double A level, and he had some hot stretches towards the end of the twenty nineteen season where he was unhittable, and I mean that literally where he would he pitched I
think multiple starts where he made it through six innings and he didn't allow a hit, and so there was some good luck going along with there. But more so I think that has a lot to do with the stuff that he has. Fastball that reaches into the triple digits, a great slider, and ultimately I think he winds up in the bullpen. I mean, I think that's pretty popular opinion at this point, just because beyond those two pitches, there's a lot of question marks. His control is really if he the changeup is really if he but he's if he's just able to focus on his strengths out of the bullpen, and he's someone that is a really intimidating presence on the mound. I think he's he might be one of the heaviest pitchers in the entire organization. He's built thick, he's strong, he's and if he's just limited into this short relief role, then he's the guy that is going to be totally overpowering even if he doesn't know exactly where the pitch is going. So I trust him. I trust his prospect pedigree. He's a guy that's been a top thirty Marlins probably stick throughout the entire process. In fact, I mean when the guy originally he was, when this farm system was like at its lowest point, he was one of these standout guys. There was a time where he was right there with Sandy in terms of the top pitching prospect in the entire organization. And so there have been some setbacks since then. But I like what he does well. He does really really well, and I'm not so concerned with all the other stuff. I'm going to stick him into the bullpen. He's going to be my closer, and we're just gonna hope for the best. We're gonna hope that he doesn't he doesn't hit too many batters that if he's able to throw it anywhere near the plate, he's going to get some good results. He's my ninth round pick as we swing it back to you.
00:58:43
Speaker 4: So basically what you're saying is the Marlins won the stand in trade.
00:58:48
Speaker 1: We're in good shape. We're in good.
00:58:51
Speaker 3: Shape this juggle.
00:58:53
Speaker 2: I'm just messing with you.
00:58:55
Speaker 4: Our next pick we're going with Isandias at second base. Came in the Yells trade. He Minor League Player of the Year for the Marvels last year twenty nineteen. He hit, He hit twenty five bombs, hit over three hundred, had a good on base percentage, and he just had a really good year in.
00:59:15
Speaker 2: Triple A last year.
00:59:16
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it hasn't necessarily translated very well into the big leagues yet, you know, and his very short time in the majors. But I think he's gonna take some strikes forward. I think he's gonna be able to learn to hit major league pitching and be able to hit the ball the other way.
00:59:36
Speaker 2: You know, we all there's.
00:59:38
Speaker 4: No question about his power to the pull side, But now the question is whether or not he can stay back hit secondary pitches and drive him the other way, because he has good power all around. And I think if once he learns how to do that, I think he'll be.
00:59:51
Speaker 2: A much more complete hitter. And I think his defense is you know, it's it's good. He makes the routine.
01:00:00
Speaker 6: Plays, and I just like him, and I think I think he's gonna be a good ball player.
01:00:08
Speaker 1: He was the organization's Minor League player of the Year. I mean, I know that the numbers once he got called up can really scare you away, but you look at the larger sample size, and last year was just a huge success story for him, even if the results were there in the majors. I mean, he saw against I mean a lot of the best prospects in the minors. He was crushing the ball. And when you get that type of power from second base, that's something that Marlins have not had since like Dan Uggla, I mean, it's very rare to find. And he's he's been a guy that has shown those great tools like almost throughout his entire pro career. So there's there's very good reason to believe that, Yeah, he's gonna get a lot better based on where he is now in the middle of the tenth rounds here in the Marlins Dream Draft, and I'm gonna go I'm gonna take a big swing year. I'm gonna really bet on a guy that we don't know very much about. I think he's the youngest guy that's been taken in this draft by far. He is outfielder Victor Mesa junior started right, He's my card he's eighteen years old. Eighteen years old, and he's an incredible follow on Instagram. Anybody that's on Instagram. You know about Victor Masa Junior. He's obviously overshadowed by his brother, by Victor Victor Mesa, who got the much larger signing bonus, who had a great track record in Cuba. We didn't know much about the younger brother, but at this point, I think it's clear that if you want to bet on one of those guys moving forward, it would definitely be the younger brother. He shows a beautiful swing from the left handed side. He's still got some potential, maybe not to stick in center field, but he's going to be someone that does help you defensively in the corner spots. And he's so young. I mean, it's we need to emphasize again, eighteen years old. There's so much that's going to change between now and when he reaches the majors. If you're being really optimistic on it, maybe he's two years away, but more likely three or four years away. I'm not actually breaking through. We know how much outfield depth has this organization has, and so overall we've what picked out like seven outfielders in this organization if you include Gerrar being one of those guys. And I think he's definitely one of the seven in this organization that I trust the long term and that I would want to build around. So we'll see, there's a lot of risk here. Realistically. This is always something that I like to reinforce, is the percentage of prospects that don't ultimately reach their potential for whatever variety of reasons. So there's a lot that can happen, a lot of volatility with him. There is a decent chance he doesn't reach the majors in the first place,
because so much can happen over those next few years. But I really like his work ethic. I like them the relationships he's building within the organization, both with coaches and with some of his teammates. He's he's doing all the little things that are right so far, and we'll just have to get a better idea of him once he's playing against higher level competition.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree. I like Victor makes a junior a lot. Definitely a lot of concern about his older brother, whether or not he could hit for power or hit for extra bases. But I don't think that will be the same problem for his brother. I mean, like you said, a lot of volatility, but I think I think his ceiling is higher than his older brother if anything. And I'm just I'm just excited to see him progress through the system, very excited to see him. But for our next pick for a wild card, we're gonna take Braxton Garrett.
01:03:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:03:50
Speaker 4: I saw him pitch in Jupiter and he just blew me away that he was just mowing down headers.
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Speaker 2: He just he's gonna be good. That's all I can really say about it. He just I really like him. Yeah, And this was Shane's pick. He made a good call on this one.
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Speaker 3: We did have we did have Mesa junior, but you snacked that away from.
01:04:13
Speaker 6: Us for the while.
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Speaker 3: But no bracing year for sure, I gotta we gotta go with him for a wild guard. As far as what we have remaining, what do we have?
01:04:22
Speaker 2: Third base, third base, left, third base left? Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Down to the three overall picks, you got three looseman, I'm gonna pick between a d H and a catcher and yeah, I guess just a little note on Brax and Garrett the well, technically he's still the reigning champion. You know, every year the Marlins are supposed to have this ping pong tournament in springt training between every major leaguers and the minor leaguers. And he won in twenty nineteen. Remember this was fresh off of Tommy John surgery. He hadn't even pitched in any official games in a year and a half, but he was totally up to speed. Yeah, playing ping pong, and he played. I think he plays right hand even though he is a lefty. As you mentioned, he'd beat for the championship. Yeah, that's right, and even him pretty easily too. It wasn't like that much of a close call. So he's I really like him a lot. Yeah, aside from obviously being a good pitcher, only twenty two years old, he's got a really bright future. Former first round pick, and it's been a while since they took him in the first round, but he's gonna live up to that potential. I have no doubt about it. With my second to last pick here in the eleventh rounds, I'm going with a designated hitter. He's normally an outfielder, you know, outfielders so far in the organization, but I believe ultimately best utilized as dh peyden verdict. Who is the third round Marlins draft pick in twenty nineteen, who was I already picked Cameron Meisner from the same draft. The only reason why Burdick comes a little lower from me as a priority is just because not entirely sure where he fits defensively. He is a little bit older as a guy that spent an extra year in college before he came out of Wright State. He was last year in the minor leagues one of the best players period in all minor league baseball. Last year he was a sensation. We had a guy out there in Clinton, Iowa, where the Morholins have their low A affiliate, that was watching him every day, and he couldn't speak highly enough of this guy. What he does offensively was unfair. It was Yeah, it was really dangerous. I think it was honestly dangerous to have him facing pitchers that young and that inexperienced, because he may have left like some permanent damage on them with how much he demoralized them. He was that good an ops around nine point fifty playing at the low A level, and that carried over to the playoffs. They made it to the playoffs that year with him leading the charge just dominated from the moment that he got into pro ball, and a guy that I feel the only reason that he fell to the Marlins in real life in the NIB draft is because it came from a small school. They didn't know how much weight to put into the results he had there. But that stuff translates, and I'm confident in his bat. You know, I'm not totally sure about everything else, but his work ethic is incredible, both in the weight room and just with all the other little things he does to try to hustle on the field. The kind of effort that he plays with really shines through. That's probably the first thing that jumps out to me when I saw him running down the first baseline after like a little dribbler in front of the pictures now and beating that out. The kind of hustle that he shows playing even in the low minor leagues where he doesn't probably think anybody is watching him. I'm one of the few guys actually watching those games. And the type of effort that he showed even to try to contribute as an outfielder as best he can. He does have a really strong throwing arm. He's someone that's going to get the absolute most that visibility, and the Marlins speak very highly of him. So he checks a lot of the boxes that you want. So much outfield depth in this organization. I don't know exactly how much playing time is going to be there for a right handed hitter, for someone that's a little bit older relative to his experience level, But as I said, he's gonna do everything he can to figure it out and carve out a role, and at the very least he's gonna hit some really entertaining tape measure home runs. The same kind of guy that Gerra is, except a few rounds later here in our dream draft, entering the final round, final round, tough decisions here at the end.
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Jacob, who we got for third?
01:08:44
Speaker 4: Well, for a third base, we're actually gonna convert this shortstop to play this position. We're going with
twenty year old Jose Devers came along in the Stanton trade, and he's young, twenty.
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Speaker 7: Years old, and he's playing and high A and he played in Hia Jupiter.
01:09:03
Speaker 2: I think he's down, and I think then he go down to Clinton.
01:09:06
Speaker 10: I'm not sure about where he's supposed to be at right now, in the organization.
01:09:10
Speaker 2: But no, it's just this guy is really exciting.
01:09:13
Speaker 6: He he could run, he has he's a good glove and shortstop, he makes good contact, and I think I think he's a guy that will be a really good long term piece for any team.
01:09:26
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jose Devers.
01:09:28
Speaker 1: So we go to our final pick of the Marlins stream draft. I need to finally get my catcher, and it's gonna be Will Banfield, who's another young guy at the same age as Devers, a part of the Marlins playpool this year, who is extremely advanced defensively, someone that was so advanced and had such a strong opportunity to go on to college and play at Vanderbilt where so many other great like amateur players go to. That people didn't think the Marlins would be able to sign him when they drafted him what a couple of years ago in twenty eighteen, but they put down the money that it took. They made a big investment in him long term. And that's the thing is he's going to be a long term project. He's not going to be my catcher in the major leagues for the next two years, might even take three years, but he's going to be there eventually, because what type of ability that he shows defensively in all aspects of defense. Someone that threw out about fifty percent of attempted base dealers last year fifty percent. Like playing at a low level of the minor leagues, where the pitchers don't necessarily pay that much attention to base runners, you're kind of doing it on your own as a catcher, trying to give yourself a chance to cut down the running game. But he showed so much talent with that his blocking ability. He does so much to help you win games. And that's the stuff that's so hard to quantify because I'm kind of nerdy when it comes to this. I love to quantify stuff. I like to put numbers next to things, but with him, it's so much that you actually can't do it. And in the same way, I really trust, I trust him anyway to be big contributor moving forward, because that catcher position is there's so many aspects to it, and he seems to have them all mastered. Aside from everything he shows on the field defensively, pitchers love to work with him and that's something you really can't put big enough value on that he makes pictures comfortable. He knows how to work to their strengths, and that's why he's part of their player pool this year. Even though he's very inexperienced. He's someone that they want around their best top pitching prospects. They think they'll work well together and they think that's going to be so critical into the future of the organization that have him around. And when he does make contact with the ball, he hits it a long way. It's some there's some Jorge al Farro tendencies with him at the plate where not always swinging at the right pitches at this stage of his career. When he does, he does huge damage. So he's I can see that kind of future for him. Let's give everybody a recap of what we did here. This was a beautiful mess, but it was beautiful because these are some players. Twenty four picks, twelve on each team, Jazz Chisholm, Brian Anderson, then jore L Farrow, Sixo Sanchez, Edward Cabrera, Lewin Diaz, JJ bl Day, Jonathan vr Monte, Harrison HAYESU Sanchez, Gerar and Cronacio and Max Meyer, Alex Vesia, Miguel Rojas, Corey Dickerson, Cameron Meisner, Garrett Cooper, George Guzman, Isan Diez, Victor Masson Junior. Oh boy, boy, I forgot to write I forgot to write down your last two picks out the re Listen to the recording at the end to oh Braxon, Garrett was the wild.
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Speaker 12: Card and Devers at third base, comparing him to the third base. All right, to go to go along with Cayden verdict and will then field first edition ever of this Marlin's Dream Drafts. And we're gonna put it up on Twitter, because we already spend so much of our lives on Twitter.
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Speaker 1: Went not a little bit more. We're gonna post this as a graphic, the two rosters side by side. You know, we'll see what the fans think about that. But a pleasure having both of you guys here on the pod. Pretty impressive showing and uh yeah, we'll have you back on again real soon.
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Speaker 2: And it was a pleasure to be here anyway.
01:13:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this ran a little bit longer than I expected, but I hope everybody appreciates the insight that we provided. I'll be sure to edit it down to the most essential little parts of it so that people can get as much enjoyment as possible out of it. But moving forward with the twenty twenty season coming up in the next few days, and we're gonna have all the coverage on fish stripes and just as much coverage on fish Army. They do. They do incredible stuff. I'm exhausted, guys, but thank you so much here on the pod and skill.
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Speaker 2: Fish Fish fantastic body.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate you, guys. Thank you.
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