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Hello, everybody.
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Welcome back to yet.
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Another episode of watching the Watchers live, my name is Robert ruler.
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I am a criminal defense attorney here at the R and R law group where my team and I over the course of many years have helped to represent thousands of good people facing criminal charges.
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Sometimes things like DUI, drugs, domestic violence, some of the more serious offenses, things like sexual assault, even murder.
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We have handled it all.
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We've worked on a lot of cases.
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And over our time in practice, we have seen a lot of problems with our justice system.
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In particular, we're talking about misconduct involving the police.
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We have prosecutors behaving poorly.
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We have judges engaging in egregious conduct and even politicians where all of this starts, they're the ones who are responsible for implementing and passing and making sure that we all follow the laws.
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They're the ones who started off.
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Even the politicians have problems themselves.
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And that is what we've been spending a lot of time talking about on this channel, all of those different categories of malfeasance of misconduct.
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And we want to help balance that by shining the beautiful sunlight, no new transparency, disinfectant on the whole system.
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And today what we're going to be talking about is a lot of the stuff that was sort of leftovers from the weekend.
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The big news that we all know and we've been following on this channel
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is some of the Trump election debacle what's going on with that.
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And we learned over the weekend that one of Trump's main lawyers in my mind, I thought this was the lawyer, uh, is no longer with the team.
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So we're going to tell you about that.
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We also have a situation that is sort of percolating out there in Michigan, new lockdown orders across the country, California, Michigan, different States are all implementing more and more sort of draconian locked down orders in response to COVID and that's causing some legal hurdles, some legal problems.
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Many people are upset about this.
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Why, why, why are we getting locked down again?
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We already did this in March, April, may, and June.
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What are we doing again?
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Where's your authority?
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Where's your power?
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Where do you get the legal capability to come in and tell us that we can't run our business?
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This is America.
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And so we want to analyze that.
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We want to dissect some of those claims because in Michigan that is becoming more and more relevant.
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And I think that's going to be continuing to be relevant for some time to come.
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So we want to break that down.
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And then finally a case that we've been following for months and months and months and months, Kyle Rittenhouse is now out of custody.
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We're all happy about that.
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Well, not everybody.
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There's some people on the other side of the aisle who are not so happy about that, but we are here.
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We think that this is a good, a good development.
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We want to tell you a little bit more about that.
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So let's go ahead and dive in.
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We know that Sidney Powell, we spent a lot of time last week talking about Donald Trump and his election team.
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We talked about Rudy Giuliani.
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We had a lot of clips last week from the press conference where Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, everybody came out to detail.
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They'll what they called their opening argument.
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What, what was going to be their case for the American people as to why this election should change course, as it stands right now, Joe Biden and his team, they have the numbers.
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They have the majority of the States, the majority of the electoral votes.
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They have enough to satisfy the constitution and the electoral college.
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And so many of us were sort of analyzing what we know, how is this all unfolding?
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What are the claims that are being proposed by the Trump team?
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What is the Biden team responding to and how is this all going to unfold?
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Cause it seems like there were some, some legit you to make claims about some of this election integrity stuff that has been in the news.
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We've covered a lot of it here.
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We talked about bet Benford's law.
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We've talked about dr.
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Sheeva's analysis.
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We've talked about all the different sort of permutations of the, you know, the algorithm changes that have been going on.
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We analyze a lot of the different claims.
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We've read a ton of different affidavits from different different people, filing lawsuits in different States.
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We've covered Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia.
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I think we covered some in Nevada.
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We talked about some Arizona lawsuits.
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We've been really covering it.
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And at the forefront of a lot of these claims are sort of the spokesperson who has been at the forefront of Trump's claims was Sidney Powell while we learned over the weekend.
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I think this was yesterday.
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Yeah.
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On, on Sunday that she's not even a part of Donald Trump's legal team.
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What the heck is this about?
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So Donald Trump at, through Jenna Ellis, they released this pertinent claim here that says Donald Trump, the Trump campaign statement on their legal team.
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This was
Sunday, Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own is what they said.
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She is not a member of the Trump legal team.
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She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity.
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So it doesn't represent him personally.
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Doesn't represent him on the team, Rudy Giuliani and attorney for the president, Jenna Ellis, Trump campaign, senior legal advisor and attorney for president Trump.
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So as soon as I saw this, I was a, I was actually at the gym on Sunday and I was watching the, I watched the statement coming, uh, several people, you know, DMD me and told me that this was breaking news, what the heck was going on.
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And I thought this was a joke.
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At first, when I originally saw the press release
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From Jenna Ellis, I was thinking, this, this can't, this can't,
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This is crazy because on Tuesday, Sidney Powell was literally the second person
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Speak at the press conference.
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It was Rudy Giuliani, then Sidney Powell, then Jenna Ellis, and then sort of a, you know, some question and answer,
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But she was literally the second person.
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So how can Donald Trump and his team come out and say, well, she's not, you know, she didn't work for the president, by the way.
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She's also not on the team.
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And you know, we've got to put this statement out, well, seemed
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A little bit as skew to me.
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So I
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Wanted to go ahead and provide some of the news and then the context of what's going on.
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And then maybe we can do a little bit of speculation.
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We can wonder, is there something else going on here?
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Is this what everybody thinks it is?
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Or is there something more let's dive into it?
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So as we are seeing here, uh, somebody over from, uh, Josh Dawsey, I think he's over at the Washington post, he had a little bit of an explanation.
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So as soon as this hit Twitter, everybody was retweeting it and anybody on the left was having a lot of fun with it, slam dunking on it.
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Trump's a circus, this whole thing's a clown show.
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And, uh, you know, they were sort of relishing in it.
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And I think this guy is in that camp a little bit.
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He's over at the Washington post.
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I believe I could be wrong about that.
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Josh Dawsey says
that Trump told allies that Sidney Powell was too much.
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Even for him after Thursday, he says, he sees the fight as uphill, but fleeting and doesn't see her as helpful anymore per several advisors.
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And so, you know, you can take that stuff for what it's worth.
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A lot of people in the media have for a long time for several weeks now have been saying, you know, sort of the Donald Trump doesn't really believe as hard.
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It doesn't have his heart in this that he's just fighting to turn this into a media empire or in to satiate.
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Some of his supporters, a lot of different rationales I think, are being attributed to Trump.
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And I don't think he said anything to that effect at all.
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I think that, you know, he probably, um, probably is a pretty realistic guy, probably knows that it's a hard Hill to climb, but I'm not so sure that this is something where he's just ready to throw in the towel.
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I'm not seeing it that way either.
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And so Josh Dawsey is out here saying that maybe he kind of is, you know, maybe he's looking at these facts in front of him.
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He's looking at his different attorneys and he's making a judgment call.
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We did hear from general Flynn.
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So if you don't recall, general Flynn, Sidney Powell has been working with general Flynn for a long period of time.
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General Flint has been in the news.
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We haven't covered it a lot on this show because this show sort of started after the general Flynn case really got underway.
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And so I kind of didn't want to go back and re litigate a bunch of stuff.
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That's already history.
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And so you may remember this case.
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This was general Flynn during the 2016 Trump campaign during the transition after Donald Trump won general, Flynn was brought on Bart on board to be a part of the government, had a phone call with a Russian ambassador called Vasyl yak, where they were talking about basically not imposing, you know, he was talking to the Russians, basically telling them, hold on, okay, there's a new administration coming in.
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You, if you recall, if you were winding the clock back, this was a time in which the, the, the sort of the Democrats, the Obama administration, Joe Biden, and all of those individuals had a lot of thoughts that this was all being stolen from them as a result of the Russian collusion.
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And so general Flynn had a conversation with somebody on the other end of the phone saying, look, Russians, don't come down on this administration.
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There's a new sheriff in town.
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Who's going to be coming into power, hold off a little bit.
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Well, he got in, he got just reamed for that phone call.
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I got caught up in a big, uh, you know, sort of Dragnet of surveillance.
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He was eventually unmasked.
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And then he was indicted for a number of different charges, actually pled guilty, then wanted to withdraw his plea, which is still it's.
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It's, it's a huge ball of yarn.
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Anyways, Sidney Powell was brought in at the last minute to sort of change the course of that case.
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And she did a good job on that.
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She has, in my mind, I thought that this case was a done deal.
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He had already pled guilty.
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What else can you do?
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She came in and the DOJ now is recommending no charges.
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She's also recommending no charges.
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Basically the only holdup in that case is the judge.
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And it, from what we've seen out of her, she's somebody who can perform and she can deliver fairly well.
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Now, a lot of people on the other side, and especially in the legal commentary at, they like to sort of lump everybody in as a clown show and say, this is all, you know, uh, subpar legal claims, but we haven't seen much of that from Sidney Powell, especially not on this channel.
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We've, we've talked about some of the claims that Rudy Giuliani was making.
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We did a deep dive on the Lynwood's woods claims, but we haven't seen really anything from Sydney that has been filed in court.
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And so, uh, you know, there's, there's, there's some, some, some people breaking both ways on this, you know, is she credible?
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Is she not?
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What's going on?
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Well, general Flynn, who is her client, who she did a great job for, or at least it's getting him out in the process of doing a great job.
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He had something to say about it.
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So he on Sunday said that Sidney Powell has been suspended for, from Twitter for 12 hours, which is a little bit strange.
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I'm not sure why she would have been suspended.
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She understands the white house, press relief and agrees with it.
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She is staying the course to prove the massive deliberate election fraud that robbed we, the people of our votes for president Trump and other Republicans.
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And so she's going to keep on moving.
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She's going to keep on trucking, according to general Flint.
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And then we're going to get to a statement from ms.
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Powell, herself, that corroborates that.
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And so you can see here, another one from general Michael Flynn, he says, thank you, Tracy beans.
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You know, I'm on team Sydney, hashtag team Sydney, and he's going in and tagging a bunch of other people saying, God bless America.
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And so Sidney Powell released a statement also.
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So this was, it looks like 12 hours ago from earlier today.
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So it released a statement here and I want to read through it so that we can put some context around this thing before we dive into some of the more fun speculation game that we can play here.
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All right.
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So statement from Sidney Powell to we, the people says, I agree with the campaign statement that I am not part of the campaigns legal team.
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I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the president or the campaign, a bill for my expenses or fees.
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My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may, whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats, Ooh, that's spicy there.
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The evidence I'm compiling is overwhelming that this software tool was used to shift millions of votes from president Trump and other Republican candidates to Biden and other Democrat candidates.
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We are proceeding to prepare our lawsuit and plan to file it this week.
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It will be Epic.
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And this week is the date that we had in mind.
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She says, we will not allow this great Republic to be stolen by communists from without and within, or our votes altered or manipulated by foreign actors in Hong Kong, Iran, Venezuela, or Serbia, for example, who have neither regard for human life, nor the people who are the engine of this exceptional country, hashtag we, the people elected Donald Trump and other Republican candidates to restore the vision of America as a place of life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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You may assist this effort by making a non tax deductible contribution over a www dot, defending the republic.org.
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And then she finishes with hashtag cracking on steroids, not even kidding, hashtag cracking on steroids.
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And so what are you supposed to make of that statement?
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I mean, Oh my goodness.
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You know, this whole thing has been a bit of a roller coaster.
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So Sidney Powell, who I just went through the rationale as to why she's pretty, pretty credible, pretty competent.
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Somebody who's actually turning the Titanic around of the general Flynn case is, is actually taking that massive object and turning it around in his favor in a situation that many people thought was a done deal.
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She's somebody who can deliver, she can perform.
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Is she saying on this week we are proceeding to prepare our lawsuit and plan to file it this week.
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It will be Epic.
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That's her quote.
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So you know it at this point in time, it's a, it's, it's very interesting to S to let we can just wait and see, we already had this week dotted down on our calendar because last week, Victoria town Singh said there are lawsuits.
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The Trump team lawsuits were going to be filed this week.
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Last week, we heard Sidney Powell make, uh, sort of, uh, uh, kind of, uh, a goalpost moving claim that her lawsuits would be filed within the next two weeks.
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But we just learned today that it's going to be this week and it's going to be Epic according to her.
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And you know, we're going to dive into that.
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So let's maybe analyze a little bit about, you know, is, is this, is, is this what it looks like?
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Are there other potential explanations for this thing?
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First, I want to make a quick point about what we're seeing.
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You know, she opens up her statement saying that I never signed a retainer agreement or set the president or the campaign, a bill for my expenses or fees, which sort of seems to me like, kind of not talking about that.
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We're kind of talking about whether or not you were a part of the team.
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You're not a part of the team anymore.
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That means that you're fired.
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I mean, that's kind of how I am interpreting that, you know, one day you're on the Trump legal team the next day, you're not on the Trump legal team.
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And so one of the quick and dirty explanations for why she's not on the Trump legal team, it could be very simple, right?
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It could be about finances.
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Maybe she sent them a bill.
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They said, ah, you know, it's too much, it's too expensive.
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We don't want to pay for that.
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So she's now out on her own, she's pursuing her own claims and it's something that's a little bit more disconnected from the Trump team could be.
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That could be something just as simple as, as money or an agreement.
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And Donald Trump has his own lawyers already.
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He's already got Jenna Ellis.
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And he also has Rudy Giuliani and some other people, uh, secular and some others who are on the team.
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So maybe he just didn't need Sidney Powell.
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It was a financial problem.
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The other reason it could be a procedural problem, right?
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This could have been something where there was an internal disagreement about the nature of the claim that needed to be filed.
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We've sort of seen two kind of competing theories for how Trump is going to reverse course on this election.
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The first has been from Rudy Giuliani and I haven't thought it's been too good.
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Quite frankly.
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We've had a lot of discussion about it on this program that what they're trying to do is identify big buckets of votes.
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We've seen this in Pennsylvania, they just tried it in Michigan.
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They've tried it elsewhere where they're trying to disqualify certain types of votes.
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So absentee votes or votes that don't have signatures that match or votes that came in three days after the originally prescribed deadline and so on and so on.
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And when we were going through the different lawsuits and the different claims we were saying, okay, well, first of all, we can't find buckets big enough that are going to change the course of the election.
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So in, you know, let's say in Pennsylvania, for example, the original prevailing theory was that if they were able to take the, the extension that the Supreme court in Pennsylvania granted moving it from November 3rd to November six, if we could take all of those ballots that came in after November 3rd, because the order from the court was illegal.
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It was unconstitutional in my, in my reading of it.
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And let's, let's, let's say that the Supreme court agreed and they said anything that came after November 3rd shouldn't count.
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Well, what, how big is that bucket?
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How many votes were in there?
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What we learned, it's really not that much.
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It wouldn't close the deficit allegedly.
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Now I don't know the numbers hard and fast, but apparently that is the problem.
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So what happened then is, is Rudy Giuliani and the Trump campaign, they altered their legal argument a bit.
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So
they switched it from, well, you know, w we need to, to make sure that all of these votes are, are legitimate and that we're not trying to modify the votes that came in after the deadline and so on too, because we didn't observe the counting that those votes should be thrown out.
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There's a big difference.
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One is, is massive.
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The other is not so massive.
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We're talking about a small bucket, uh, you know, maybe the, the absentee votes, but we're talking about a massive bucket.
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If you're making the claim that any ballot that you didn't observe properly should be thrown out.
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And so we did an entire show on that, this concept between a claim and a remedy.
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So technically, yeah, maybe Giuliani and the Trump team are a hundred percent right.
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That their observers were thrown out of the court, uh, out of the, uh, I say courtroom, cause that's what I'm used to talking to, but thrown out of the tabulation room and as a result of them being thrown out, yes, they didn't get to see a bunch of ballots counted, but is that justification enough?
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Is the remedy for that harm that you throw out 7 million votes that you invalidate the entire election.
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And my perspective here was that no, of course not.
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You can't, you can't throw out 7 million votes cause you didn't count them.
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Right.
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It's just like playing a game of chess.
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If you turn your back and somebody makes a move and they capture one of your pieces.
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Well, just because they captured a piece, doesn't mean that their move was illegal.
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Just because you didn't see it.
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It may have been a perfectly legal move.
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You just didn't happen to see it.
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That's your fault.
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Not theirs.
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We're not going to cancel the game or get your piece back because you weren't a party to that.
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Right.
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If you got up to get a soda, that's your own problem, not theirs.
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And so it's the same sort of strategy here.
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Okay.
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So you had a bunch of votes that you didn't see.
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How many was it?
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A couple hundred, a couple thousand.
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You want to invalidate 7 million votes?
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No, we're not going to do that, but if you're claiming somebody didn't vote, who should have voted, okay, we'll count their vote.
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If you're saying somebody voted, who shouldn't have voted, okay, we'll, we'll subtract their votes, but they weren't able to find buckets enough that are going to move.
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That, that was Giuliani's theory.
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Now here on this program, we've said, Oh, I'm not sure how well that's going to work.
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We were waiting for more.
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Everybody wants to jump to conclusions.
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Everybody's saying it's enough already.
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Liz Cheney came out over the weekend.
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Donald Trump needs to decide and so on and so on and so on.
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Well, there's still time everybody.
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There is still time.
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And there's still a lot of very, very,
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I would say a perturbed people
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On the right side of the aisle who want more answers, who want to continue to investigate this.
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And so my position has always been well, let's continue to investigate it because the last thing you want to do is just tell everybody who's upset to sit down, shut up and stop talking.
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They're just going to get angrier.
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And it's going to be problematic for the next administration, whomever that may be.
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And so as we're going through this, we want to just keep all of that in mind, right?
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That, that there's, there's still some time.
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There's still a little bit of ballgame left on this in this game.
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It's not looking so good in my mind, but that is one potential explanation.
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So, uh, we we're, we're going back to Sydney
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And let's, let's, let's hype
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The size.
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Some other reasons as to why maybe she is no longer on the team.
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So it could be financial.
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It could be procedural,
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Procedurally, Sidney Powell, and her, her claim to
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First of course of the election is significantly different than Rudy Giuliani's.
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She was saying that we don't need to find big buckets because the whole system is the bucket.
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Everything is invalid, everything is bad.
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We have this, this, you know, these affidavits and these people who saw what was going on in Venezuela, and we've got software code and source code.
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I've got videos, I've got pictures, I've got everything.
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It's going to
invalidate the entire system.
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And so many of us were thinking that's, that's a pretty incredible claim.
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Let's see, but we were waiting.
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We wanted to see what it was.
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Well now, if she's not a part of the Trump team anymore, if she's on her own, that takes a big claim away from the Trump team under Rudy Giuliani's
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Theory of the case.
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I don't see a real
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Clear path to victory.
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We were waiting to see and hear more from Sydney, but then the Trump team kind of just candor or, or something, they're doing something.
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So let's see if we can maybe tease out what some of these, some things are.
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All right.
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So the first thing that I wanted to mention was maybe Sidney Powell is, is onto something, right?
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This is speculation.
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We don't know, but we're going to play some mental exercises.
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We're going to stretch the mind a little bit.
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She could have been onto something, right?
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She could know something about this, but the Trump team, his legal team could have made the decision to just create some distance between the two because of the sensitivity, because it was too spicy.
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It was too much.
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And here's, here's one way that that may have worked out.
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So let's say you're going into court and you've got a really good claim.
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And you've got kind of a crazy claim.
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You kind of want to separate that crazy claim out because it can just sort of, sort of by osmosis, just bleed in to your good claim.
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And that will make you look foolish.
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And so this is a big part of difficulty in practice.
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When you're going through the law, oftentimes your client will want you to bring something up or say something or do something or say, you know, tell the courts that will bring up this.
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My ex did this 35 years ago.
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Okay.
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I know you're I know that's really hot right now.
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I know, I know that's turning your volume up yours.
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You're lit over that issue, but that's not a good claim here.
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That's not pertinent today.
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That's not relevant.
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And we don't want to bring that into court.
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So the Trump team, they may have made that analysis.
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They may have said, yeah, you know, uh, Sidney Powell, all of this claim, uh, all of her insinuations about dominion sort of hinting that, that this may be a bipartisan thing that both the Democrats and the Republicans are responsible for some of this misconduct.
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It just may have been too spicy.
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It may have been, may have been a little too toxic for the Trump legal team.
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And so they're, they're making a mutual decision.
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They're saying in a, in other words, don't take this to mean that the claims that she was making are bad.
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They're just saying we don't want them as part of our case in chief.
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So we're going to just section you out.
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You're going to do your own thing.
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You're going to be a little bit of a rogue agent, but we still want you to move forward.
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Your claims are good.
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You know, you're, you're sane, you're legitimate.
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You actually do have the evidence it's forthcoming.
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It's just too spicy for what we want to do.
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And you can see how this might work out because you could have the Trump campaign literally going around and trying to negotiate, which I think they're currently doing with different state legislatures to see if they can find a different route to reverse the course.
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Not many people are calling this accou.
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I'm calling this something.
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I'm not sure that it's a coup yet because it's, it's, it's allowed under the constitution.
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But I think it's, you know, it's a little bit troubling.
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If there is no evidence, if they have evidence of massive voter fraud, the state legislatures are the pressure relief valve.
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That's what they're there for is to make these decisions.
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And they're allowed to operate that way.
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We just haven't seen that evidence yet, but just because we haven't seen it doesn't mean it's not there.
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Sidney Powell is making the claim that it's coming.
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She says, it's coming this week and it's going to be Epic.
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It's cracking on steroids.
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So you can think of it this way, where the Trump team and the Sidney Powell team, they're, they're sort of working together still, but they're approaching the problem from different angles.
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It's too toxic to have them joined as a team, but they're just agreeing to separate and they're going their own.
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That's one theory.
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Another theory, Sidney Powell has just totally lost it.
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Right?
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You have to consider that.
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You have to think about that.
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If Donald Trump and his team are reviewing her claims and reviewing her evidence,
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And it doesn't exist, you got apart right
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Ways with that person, because that person may be making a bunch of claims that are going to undermine your claims.
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So it's sort of the same analysis, right?
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You want to protect your best claims.
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And if somebody who is a part of your team is bringing in additional claims that is going to be too toxic, too detrimental to what you're trying to prove in court.
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You want to siphon that person off and get, and remove them from the legal team.
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And so you could, you could, you could definitely go that route.
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And it's not something that I want to jump to conclusions on, but
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I could come to the possibility or come to the conclusion that Sydney with her claims has just sort of gone off
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The deep end.
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And they sound
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Like they're really close to the deep end.
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You know, that the entire system of American democracy, all of our electoral security security has just been jeopardized.
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Every election that we've been having for the last however many years is literally
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Illegitimate.
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Foreign actors
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Are electing our officials in America.
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I mean, these are really, really,
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Really strong claims.
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And you'd have to imagine that this would be,
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Be the conspiracy to end all conspiracies.
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This would be something that would be a nuclear bomb that went off in the United States.
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We would all never trust our election process.
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Again, we have a lot of doubts about the people who are in power right now.
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It would be a big, big deal.
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And so is that possible?
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Sure.
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I think it's possible.
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Is it likely, probably not.
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Has any Powell totally lost it and gone off the deep end?
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Probably not.
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It's probably not that
either.
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Right?
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It's probably not the case where all of her claims are 100% true.
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It's probably also not the case that all of them are 100% false.
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It's probably somewhere in the middle.
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For some reason here, the Trump team has just
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Decided to part ways with them a little bit.
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The other thought that I had originally was that
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Maybe Donald Trump just wanted to change things up.
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Remember, he's very, very known for doing this.
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He likes to just change the game in the middle of the game.
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We've seen this in his campaigns.
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He swaps campaign managers all the time.
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He swaps know different directors for different departments, different heads, different chiefs of staff.
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I mean different secretary.
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We've had, you know, it's sort of been a revolving door in the white house.
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That's one of been one of the main criticisms of the Trump team.
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I actually don't think it's such a bad thing.
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If you have somebody who's not doing a good job, you get rid of them quickly.
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All right, hire slow fire fast is sort of the popular, uh,
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Conception of how you do it in business.
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Take your time, get to know somebody, bring them on.
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If they're not any good, get rid of them quickly, hire slow fire fast, you know, just get, get the ride
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People on the bus.
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If they're, if it's not the right person in the right seat, you got to get rid of that person.
00:26:42.461 --> 00:26:54.420
So Donald Trump is known to do that now for somebody who is as, as invested as high stakes, as involved as Sidney Powell was, I had a tough time believing that, that, you know, this would be the rationale for it.
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And that he would just decide to change course, literally in the middle of this thing, about the week before they said that they were going to file lawsuits.
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So I'm not sure that that is it either.
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Um, you know, we also have seen here and let's take a quick look at this again from ms.
00:27:08.641 --> 00:27:14.849
Powell, we see here, let the chips fall where they may, whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats.
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So we can see that down here at the bottom, right?
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Whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats, which is very interesting.
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So the next thought was, well, maybe the Trump team needs to distance her because this, this release is going to implicate a lot of Republicans that would be troubling.
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What if it even implicated some people in the Trump team that would not be good either.
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So at this, if that were the case, you know, if she's going to release this information and all of the Republicans, all of the Democrats, everybody in power is going to be throwing their up and their arms up in the air about this thing.
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This may be a good reason for the Trump team to distance themselves for her to say, no, look, we got rid of her.
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She's a little bit crazy.
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You know, none of those claims are justified.
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She's even making claims against Republicans.
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Now that's not the case at all.
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She releases the crack in it smacks both political parties right here, square between the eyes.
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And they both are now anti Sidney Powell.
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And so you could think this might be a premeditated distancing from Sidney Powell, from the Trump team.
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I'm not too sure about that.
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And finally, you know, this could be something where she just doesn't, she just, she served a purpose.
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You know, she served her purpose as part of the Trump team.
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She could have been brought on to just fulfill this key point is just to come out there and sort of muddy the waters a little bit, introduce some other claims and give the Trump team, give the Trump people some time.
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She, and I think she's been very effective in that.
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She's done a good job of really, really sort of extending people's concerns on this.
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We saw last week, literally last week, a lot of the Trump team's claims, not, not particularly their lawsuits, they themselves have not filed a ton of lawsuits, but a lot of other people have.
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And the lawsuits that other people are filing are mirroring are going to mirror the claims that the Trump team files, you know, these are not two totally different worlds.
00:29:08.549 --> 00:29:10.589
It's it's you count votes or you don't.
00:29:10.829 --> 00:29:15.269
And you, you, you, you use rules to, to detail how you're going to count those votes.
00:29:15.270 --> 00:29:17.640
And if somebody broke those rules, you bring your legal claims.
00:29:17.849 --> 00:29:18.450
It's kind of it.
00:29:18.660 --> 00:29:24.180
And both sides are going to have different permutations of that different allegations about, you know, the printed ballots we've covered.
00:29:24.181 --> 00:29:29.849
I think 15
different types of voter fraud claims here, but maybe Sydney, she served her purpose.
00:29:30.329 --> 00:29:35.339
There was enough there to sort of extend the investigation process.
00:29:35.490 --> 00:29:43.089
So many people, even many of you and even myself on this, you know, last week we were concerned about what this strategy looked like.
00:29:43.090 --> 00:29:48.910
Rudy Giuliani was out there saying we're going to invalidate big buckets of votes about the end of last week.
00:29:48.910 --> 00:29:51.130
And today we're learning that strategy is not so good.
00:29:51.131 --> 00:29:58.779
There was a, an order from, I think it was in Pennsylvania, they dismissed another one of, uh, their, their claims with prejudice, meaning they can't refile it.
00:29:58.780 --> 00:30:00.339
They can't amend the original complaint.
00:30:00.340 --> 00:30:15.039
There's a lot of sort of bad legal developments going on while Sidney Powell, all of last week, many people who saw these devolving legal issues going on may have abandoned the Trump team and the whole campaign and sort of lost energy and lost momentum.
00:30:15.430 --> 00:30:17.619
What Sidney Powell was doing was keeping them all engaged.
00:30:17.769 --> 00:30:19.150
We have something else out there.
00:30:19.329 --> 00:30:20.410
There's something else coming.
00:30:20.529 --> 00:30:21.579
We know more about this.
00:30:21.580 --> 00:30:25.900
It's going to wipe out the Republicans and the Democrats and everybody's involved and everybody's implicated it.
00:30:25.901 --> 00:30:37.180
Keep the energy up, keep the energy high in order to get closer to some of these deadlines where they're now going to go and interface with these different legislatures and continue to make their claim that there was some serious electoral fraud.
00:30:37.180 --> 00:30:42.279
So it may have just been as simple as that, they brought her on, she came out, she threw some fire.
00:30:42.309 --> 00:30:54.730
She threw some Molotov cocktails over at the media, brought in some new claims, got some of the voters thinking a certain way, maybe planted the seed for a lot of different legislatures or senators or AGS or whomever.
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.130
And now her job is done.
00:30:57.279 --> 00:30:59.890
And so they're going to distance themselves from the campaign.
00:30:59.891 --> 00:31:06.609
So, you know, some people like to look at these things and say, well, the whole thing was just a, it's been a clown show.
00:31:06.611 --> 00:31:07.630
It's been a circus.
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:09.700
This is, is one of those things.
00:31:09.730 --> 00:31:10.869
It very well could be.
00:31:10.871 --> 00:31:12.759
That could be the only explanation.
00:31:12.760 --> 00:31:14.440
It was a personality to just disagreement.
00:31:14.441 --> 00:31:16.390
It could be a financial disagreement.
00:31:16.391 --> 00:31:19.240
There are many, many reasons why, but we don't know.
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:22.390
And we do know that Powell says lawsuits are coming this week.
00:31:22.390 --> 00:31:23.140
It's going to be Epic.
00:31:23.230 --> 00:31:25.809
So we are going to continue to follow that along.
00:31:26.049 --> 00:31:27.250
A couple of other things from ms.
00:31:27.250 --> 00:31:28.420
Powell, before we move on.
00:31:28.660 --> 00:31:32.170
So she said, here, I understand today's press release, press release.
00:31:32.171 --> 00:31:33.039
I will continue.
00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:40.839
And we, the people who had their votes for Trump and other Republicans stolen my massive fraud through dominion and smart MADEC, we will be filing suit soon.
00:31:40.840 --> 00:31:47.019
The chips will fall where they may, we will defend the foundations of this great Republic once again, crack cracking on steroids.
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:53.740
And so over the weekend, before this actually happened, before we got the press release, that Sydney is no longer on the Trump team.
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.299
She's out there saying we've got a lot of additional evidence.
00:31:58.300 --> 00:32:04.509
So here she is on it looked, this was on examining politics, I think on off of the election wizard.
00:32:04.510 --> 00:32:07.000
So here's a clip from her over at the Washington examiner.
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:10.690
This is where this comes from talking about some of them, some, some new evidence that's coming out.
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:14.650
Here's his Sydney software is capable of being accessed that way.
00:32:14.859 --> 00:32:18.579
Again, my question is, how does one prove that that's what happened in this case?
00:32:19.529 --> 00:32:24.240
Well, there are devices on the internet that can be used to see it.
00:32:25.049 --> 00:32:30.329
And we have multiple people who actually saw it as it was happening.
00:32:30.930 --> 00:32:40.069
And so we essentially have some pictures of it and it is terrifying and it is a huge national issue.
00:32:41.509 --> 00:32:47.839
Why the department of justice and the FBI have not done something on this immediately is beyond my comprehension.
00:32:47.840 --> 00:32:51.740
Dominion is closing its offices and moving no doubt.
00:32:51.859 --> 00:32:52.940
They're shredding documents.
00:32:52.941 --> 00:32:54.259
And God only knows what else.
00:32:54.260 --> 00:33:02.990
More than a hundred dominion people wiped, any connection with dominion off the internet they're taking down prior articles about them.
00:33:03.589 --> 00:33:11.990
Uh, Carolyn Maloney, I think it was wrote a letter to the secretary of the treasury or some, some government official back in 2013.
00:33:11.990 --> 00:33:19.460
I think it was complaining about this and raising questions about it and suggesting and saying it was foreign owned and shouldn't be approved.
00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:25.579
Well, you know, they, all they did was create a shell company in the United States, but they're completely intertwined.
00:33:25.609 --> 00:33:32.420
They share office space with, uh, one of
George sources groups, his number two man heads up the operation out of England.
00:33:32.750 --> 00:33:36.920
But the money for it was all funded from Venezuela and Cuba and communists.
00:33:37.700 --> 00:33:38.509
And they did it.
00:33:39.170 --> 00:33:41.269
We've got an eye witness to all of it.
00:33:41.750 --> 00:33:45.109
Who's given us for an affidavit that he saw it all done in.
00:33:45.111 --> 00:33:47.329
The purpose it was done for was to rig elections
00:33:48.009 --> 00:33:48.369
Now.
00:33:49.900 --> 00:33:50.319
Yeah.
00:33:50.410 --> 00:33:54.759
And so I would encourage you to go listen to that entire, uh, interview.
00:33:54.760 --> 00:33:55.630
It's 22 minutes.
00:33:55.631 --> 00:33:56.799
It's a good interview.
00:33:56.800 --> 00:33:59.529
You can see that the host is getting a little bit irritated.
00:33:59.530 --> 00:34:00.789
Larry O'Connor is his name.
00:34:01.269 --> 00:34:02.380
He's not, I wouldn't say it.
00:34:02.381 --> 00:34:06.009
You could sense the irritableness in his voice, but he is like Sydney.
00:34:06.010 --> 00:34:06.970
Hey, okay.
00:34:07.029 --> 00:34:08.019
I know the Venezuela thing.
00:34:08.230 --> 00:34:14.110
I know that the software is terrible foreign servers, all this stuff, but what about this election?
00:34:14.110 --> 00:34:15.880
What about this one now?
00:34:16.030 --> 00:34:17.349
Because that's what people want to know.
00:34:17.500 --> 00:34:26.440
They may have a lot of doubts about the software, but if a judge doesn't know that it resulted in changing this election, not that it impacted it, but changing it, then they're not going to listen to it.
00:34:26.710 --> 00:34:28.849
And she really kind of waffled on that.
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.269
Now she said we have pictures, but I don't know.
00:34:31.269 --> 00:34:35.500
Again, is this pictures in general, is this pictures of this evidence of this election?
00:34:35.501 --> 00:34:39.190
Is this a picture in Philadelphia or somebody going like this?
00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:42.610
And literally, Hey, we're changing votes for Donald Trump over here to Joe Biden.
00:34:42.849 --> 00:34:43.690
You know, what is it?
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:49.719
That's what people have issues with because a lot of it is speculative and it's abstract and it's just kind of floating out there in the ether.
00:34:49.929 --> 00:34:54.909
We need concrete, specific evidence here, and we just haven't seen it yet.
00:34:54.911 --> 00:34:57.099
Now she's promising lawsuits are going to be filed this week.
00:34:57.489 --> 00:35:02.530
I have said on this show repeatedly, let's not hold them to other people's standards.
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:13.900
Let's not hold the Trump legal team to Tucker Carlson standards or to Liz Cheney standards or to Joe Biden, Stanford standards, or to anybody over at the New York times, Washington post MSNBC or any of the others.
00:35:14.260 --> 00:35:17.230
They don't get to set the standards on how an attorney runs their case.
00:35:17.409 --> 00:35:22.659
They don't get to set the standard on how the Trump legal team runs their election situation.
00:35:22.929 --> 00:35:23.800
That's up to them.
00:35:24.010 --> 00:35:26.380
So let's hold them to their own standards.
00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:33.880
And I said, this last week, last week, Victoria Townson, who apparently I think unless anything has changed recently is still a part of the Trump legal team.
00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:36.280
She said, lawsuits were filed this week.
00:35:36.309 --> 00:35:36.969
This one, right?
00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:44.489
The one that we're in Sidney Powell, she had a little bit of waffley last week, but this week she's saying they're coming out this week and it's going to be Epic.
00:35:44.490 --> 00:35:46.230
So that's what we're going to be monitoring.
00:35:46.260 --> 00:35:51.719
We're going to keep, continue to watch, continue to wait and see when are these additional lawsuits coming and what's in them.
00:35:51.721 --> 00:35:56.099
So if you're not already a part of this channel subscribed over here, now's a good time to do that.
00:35:56.101 --> 00:36:01.409
Because as soon as those lawsuits are filed and we have some additional claims, we will be covering them on this channel.
00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:03.480
All right, let's change gears a little bit.
00:36:03.481 --> 00:36:04.619
Let's get away from the election.
00:36:04.621 --> 00:36:10.650
I want to get a little, a little bit away from the election because there's a lot of other interesting stuff going on and it relates to the law.
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.179
So we now know that the United States is apparently in the middle of another.
00:36:15.210 --> 00:36:17.760
COVID the wave we're seeing lockdowns.
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.269
We're seeing shutdowns new orders all across the United States.
00:36:21.570 --> 00:36:22.860
We see them out of California.
00:36:22.940 --> 00:36:27.269
And I think something like 94% of their counties are now in purple, which means they can't do anything.
00:36:27.271 --> 00:36:29.670
Even though governor Newsome goes to dinners and birthday parties.
00:36:30.059 --> 00:36:36.269
You know, if you, if you were, if you were just a, a native little peasant, California, you don't get to go do those things.
00:36:36.271 --> 00:36:43.800
You get to go, you know, go have your, your Thanksgiving dinner outside of your residents with masks with only three families, three relatives or whatever the rules are.
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:45.659
We're seeing more and more of it.
00:36:45.661 --> 00:36:47.130
Nothing happened yet in Arizona.
00:36:47.789 --> 00:36:52.110
Uh, some other governors have come out opposing these lockdowns and some of these orders.
00:36:52.110 --> 00:36:55.110
I think Texas, I think Florida has said, we're not locking down again.
00:36:55.110 --> 00:36:55.889
Don't ask for it.
00:36:56.190 --> 00:37:02.550
And we're going to see what Arizona does, but a lot of other States they're just shutting down again and we're going to talk about it.
00:37:02.550 --> 00:37:09.539
Now, the last time I talked about this, I think this was in March before this, this channel, this channel must've been a 10th or 20th of the size that it is now.
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:13.019
I got a lot of grief from a lot of people saying, you're a lawyer.
00:37:13.021 --> 00:37:13.800
You're not a doctor.
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:15.300
You don't get to speak about this stuff.
00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:20.579
Stick to your business, stick to your field, let the, let the, let the lawyers and let the doctors talk about this stuff.
00:37:20.579 --> 00:37:21.389
You stick to the law.
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:23.519
I wasn't, I wasn't going to do it.
00:37:23.521 --> 00:37:24.690
Then I'm not going to do it now.
00:37:25.050 --> 00:37:35.130
Here's why is because a lot of these are a lot of these, you know, medical concerns, anything that the government wants to do ultimately ends up encroaching on our freedoms.
00:37:35.610 --> 00:37:37.019
I know it sounds so cliche.
00:37:37.021 --> 00:37:40.650
What are encroaching on your freedom because of COVID because of this.
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:40.980
Yeah.
00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:42.150
Yes, literally.
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:43.289
And we're going to go through it.
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:43.679
Okay.
00:37:43.889 --> 00:37:46.829
In March, April, may I could understand the opposing argument.
00:37:46.831 --> 00:37:51.780
I could understand a little bit of the sympathy here saying, yeah, maybe you should stick to your wheelhouse.
00:37:51.809 --> 00:37:54.030
Well, in March, April, may we all agreed for this.
00:37:54.030 --> 00:37:55.530
So-called 15 days to slow.
00:37:55.530 --> 00:38:04.679
The spread nonsense that turned into nine months, 15 months is what's going to end up being, we were all a little bit frustrated with it, but we did it because coronavirus was new.
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.960
We didn't know anything about it for what we knew.
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.719
It was killing a huge swath of the population.
00:38:09.809 --> 00:38:14.760
Everybody 35 year olds up to 90 year olds and everybody in between was dropping dead from this thing.
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:16.110
Well, now we fast forward.
00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:16.800
It's November.
00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:18.329
We know a lot more about this.
00:38:18.331 --> 00:38:21.929
We know a lot more about its effects and how to manage it.
00:38:21.931 --> 00:38:24.000
We have vaccines right around the corner.
00:38:24.001 --> 00:38:28.619
We have a lot of additional things that are going to help mitigate the slow, the spread.
00:38:28.829 --> 00:38:47.500
And so the government in my mind, as somebody who wants to live in a free society, who wants to be able to maximize freedom for myself, for my family, for society, for other people, for the, the, the, the people at the lowest rungs of society, we want to help bring them up the West way to do that in my opinion
is through freedom.
00:38:47.650 --> 00:38:56.260
So when I start to see different governors and different individuals from around the country, telling you as a small business owner, as a person, you can't do certain things.
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.960
You're not allowed that's concerning.
00:38:58.989 --> 00:39:01.989
That is not something that I think we should stand for lightly.
00:39:02.139 --> 00:39:13.030
Even if it is coronavirus, even if it is something that is a big deal and we should all take seriously, we still have to examine these with a very, very, very, very close lens with a magnifying glass.
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:14.320
What are these people doing?
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:24.789
Because as we saw after nine 11, as we've seen with all of the surveillance state and the security apparatus, that's just been bubbling up around us, basically my entire life.
00:39:25.329 --> 00:39:26.980
They don't give power back lightly.
00:39:27.070 --> 00:39:33.369
As soon as they get their hands on it, the behemoth of government just keeps gobbling up more and more power.
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.829
And we just give up more and more stuff.
00:39:36.099 --> 00:39:40.389
And we're seeing that every single day in one man's opinion.
00:39:40.539 --> 00:39:43.960
So let's take a look and talk about what's happening out of Michigan.
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.900
Here is governor Whitmer just on the 15th.
00:39:46.900 --> 00:39:52.300
So that was eight days ago coming out and giving a new COVID order locked down on COVID 19 here.
00:39:52.500 --> 00:39:55.079
So today we've got an apt today.
00:39:55.081 --> 00:40:02.909
The department of health and human services is issuing an epidemic order to help us slow the spread of COVID-19 and save lives.
00:40:03.750 --> 00:40:10.019
The order takes effect on Wednesday at 12:01 AM and will be in effect for three weeks.
00:40:10.469 --> 00:40:15.269
And we will continuously monitor the data throughout to determine next steps.
00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:23.489
Public health experts are warning Americans everywhere to limit our indoor gatherings so that we can save lives.
00:40:24.210 --> 00:40:30.210
This new epidemic order is geared towards stopping the spread by limiting indoor gatherings.
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:33.360
These steps are what the public health experts say.
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:39.630
We must take to avoid overwhelming hospitals and death counts like we saw in the spring.
00:40:41.429 --> 00:40:41.909
All right.
00:40:43.949 --> 00:40:44.250
All right.
00:40:44.251 --> 00:40:46.170
So let's take a look at what the actual order says.
00:40:46.170 --> 00:40:49.019
So here is the emergency order that was imposed.
00:40:49.050 --> 00:40:50.039
You're going to take a look at this thing.
00:40:50.041 --> 00:40:51.659
It's like, I don't know, 10 slides long.
00:40:51.661 --> 00:40:52.079
Here it is.
00:40:52.409 --> 00:40:53.880
So I'm not going to read through the whole thing.
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.380
I just want to show you what, what are the HEMOC?
00:40:55.530 --> 00:40:56.190
This thing is all right.
00:40:56.190 --> 00:41:06.780
So what we're going to go through, we're going to see emergency order gatherings and face mask order, Michigan law imposes on the Michigan department of health, the duty to continually and diligently endeavor to prevent disease and so on.
00:41:06.780 --> 00:41:10.889
And so it lays out some of the framework that is vested into the department by law.
00:41:11.130 --> 00:41:16.409
It says the coronavirus is the worst thing ever to hit human, a human humanity in recognition.
00:41:16.980 --> 00:41:26.340
The legislature gave the M D H H S specific authority dating back a century to address the threat, the threats to the public health that were imposed by COVID.
00:41:26.340 --> 00:41:34.099
And so apparently this order came about, or this rule from MD, H H S came about as a result of another, that took place.
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:35.480
I think it was the Spanish flu or whatever.
00:41:35.481 --> 00:41:42.619
One of those things were a hundred years ago on March 10th, the same MD HHS identified the first two presumptive cases.
00:41:42.621 --> 00:41:49.869
And since October, Michigan has seen an, an exponential growth in new cases, daily cases are now over 6,000.
00:41:49.969 --> 00:41:50.360
All right, great.
00:41:50.690 --> 00:41:52.940
The state of Michigan presently has a seven day average.
00:41:52.940 --> 00:41:54.679
So they go through all of their numbers here.
00:41:54.681 --> 00:41:56.840
They're now 4.5 times the hospitalization.
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:57.710
So they always do this.
00:41:57.710 --> 00:42:04.820
They do this in Arizona to look how bad everything is, look how quickly we need to justify this stuff to protect the vulnerable individuals.
00:42:04.940 --> 00:42:10.010
So they're going to pass an order that, that impacts everybody only to protect the vulnerable individuals.
00:42:10.010 --> 00:42:14.329
So to ensure the health care prevent the spread of, Oh, and all this stuff, considering the
00:42:14.380 --> 00:42:18.849
Above, I have concluded that the Panda,
00:42:18.969 --> 00:42:27.969
Um, it continues to be an epidemic in Michigan, and they're using their authority here under 2020 PA two 38, which was just signed into law October 22nd, 2020.
00:42:28.539 --> 00:42:33.280
And they're saying, I further conclude that control of the epidemic is necessary to protect the public health.
00:42:33.699 --> 00:42:39.880
And as provided an MCL, I have these emergency procedures, and they're not limited to just the public health code.
00:42:40.059 --> 00:42:41.380
So you can see, look at this thing.
00:42:41.710 --> 00:42:45.969
So here is the order definitions, childcare organization, face mass food service.
00:42:45.971 --> 00:42:46.119
Okay.
00:42:46.121 --> 00:42:48.250
This looks like a statute.
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:48.519
Okay.
00:42:48.521 --> 00:42:53.139
If you look up any
statute in your local law, you're going to see, it looks like this.
00:42:53.141 --> 00:42:57.400
They have a definitions section, they have all of these different, and we just goes on and on.
00:42:57.429 --> 00:43:07.210
So we start here at the definition, sports organizer, organized sports symptoms of COVID exercise facility, general capacity limitations, indoor gatherings, outdoor gatherings, limitations to gatherings.
00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:08.710
Uh, we, we can go on and on.
00:43:08.710 --> 00:43:31.980
We have gathering restrictions, restrictions for particular types of facilities, gatherings at entertainment, venues, banquet hall, cinemas conferences, recreational facilities, amusement parks, arcade bingo, and so on food establishments, all these different rules, six, six feet apart gathering restrictions for at facilities at a retail store at a library and a museum capacity must not exceed 30% of total occupancy, 2025.
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:40.030
And so look, it just keeps going and going and going school colleges, gatherings of public organized sporting events, face mass requirements at gatherings.
00:43:40.210 --> 00:43:42.309
This all looks like statutory code.
00:43:42.550 --> 00:43:42.940
Okay.
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:47.409
And this is something that the governor is putting into place by executive Fiat.
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.789
They're just implementing all this stuff.
00:43:48.791 --> 00:43:51.340
It just keeps going, um, exceptions to the face masks.
00:43:51.340 --> 00:43:51.699
Now,
00:43:51.909 --> 00:43:54.219
Then we contact
00:43:54.219 --> 00:43:57.579
Tracing requirements for particular gatherings, contact tracings, okay.
00:43:57.581 --> 00:44:08.679
Gatherings are prohibited at the following facilities unless the facility maintains accurate records, including date and time of entry, names of patrons, contact information, basically everything that they want from you, all businesses.
00:44:08.681 --> 00:44:10.869
And so on, data must be collected.
00:44:11.440 --> 00:44:14.079
It's just, it goes on and on implementation and so on.
00:44:14.710 --> 00:44:14.949
Okay.
00:44:14.951 --> 00:44:16.900
This order takes effect on November 18th.
00:44:16.900 --> 00:44:20.349
So it's already in effect, I think at which time, October 29th
00:44:20.769 --> 00:44:21.170
And, uh,
00:44:24.190 --> 00:44:24.940
That's what's happening.
00:44:24.940 --> 00:44:27.099
So our, our governors are just sort of passing
00:44:27.429 --> 00:44:32.099
Big, big bills, essentially legislative by
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Executive Fiat and the Supreme court in Michigan has already said, you can't do that.
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Here is what that order said.
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So this is from the Midwest Institute of health.
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What happened back?
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This was decided on October 2nd of this year, Midwest Institute of health filed a lawsuit against the governor of Michigan.
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And I want to read through some of what this lawsuit says, because this issue has already been essentially addressed.
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Governor Whitmer doesn't have the authority to do what she's doing, but she's doing it anyways.
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So here we have, this is from the, the, uh, the case that I just referenced.
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And it says that the Midwest Institute of health originally filed a lawsuit.
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They were challenging the Michigan department of health, which prohibited healthcare providers from performing non-essential procedures.
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So this was way back when the original orders were in place.
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The order was originally instituted by Gretchen Whitmer as a resort of the executive orders in response to COVID-19 on March 10th, she issued EO 20, 2004 declaring a state of emergency.
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And she used the emergency powers of governor act, which we're going to call the LPGA.
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Okay.
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So the emergency power of governors act, which was put in place in 1945.
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So that must've been, uh, it was right around the end of world war II and the emergency management act of 1976.
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So the point here is that this is where the governor is getting her power from.
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She's claiming I can go do all of these things because I was granted powers through the emergency powers of governor act, the PGA and the emergency management act, the EMA.
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Okay.
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Those are, those are going to come up again.
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On April 1st, she issued a state of emergency under the PGA state of emergency under the EMA.
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So she's using two of these legal sources as a basis for her, her power.
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But then she requested that the state legislature extend the state of emergency and the state of a disaster declarations by 70 days.
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Okay.
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So see how that works.
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Now she uses the 30 days, she's granted the, the power and the ability to do that.
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Then when she doesn't have the authority to do that anymore, she takes it back over to the legislature and says, Hey guys, I need more time.
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I don't have the authority to do it.
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You guys do.
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So why don't you pass it?
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So in response, the legislature, did they extended the state of emergency and the state of disaster through April 30th.
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Okay.
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Then on April 30th, the governor issued another one, which
terminated the declaration of a state emergency and the state of disaster, but then immediately after she issued another one.
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So she ended the first one and then issued another one.
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So obviously that's a new one.
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So she gets to renew all the time limits, right?
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This indicated that a state of emergency remained declared under the PGA at the same time.
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She should another one under the EMA.
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So the plaintiffs are now saying that, uh, the person here in this lawsuit couldn't get a knee knee surgery because it was not an essential, uh, uh, business or whatever.
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And the argument here is that although EO has been rescinded, the federal district court held that the case is not moot because these new orders are coming out and they're putting more restrictions on healthcare.
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The federal court certified these two questions.
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So these are the, these two questions are the basis of the lawsuit.
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Number one, if my slide will change, whether the emergency powers act.
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So whether the governor acted, whether she has the authority after April 30th to issue or renew any executive orders related to COVID-19.
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Okay.
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So she originally
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Passed an order that expired after 30 days, she deleted that order and put in a new order that covered the same exact thing after April 30th.
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Right.
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Okay.
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And is she allowed to do that?
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Can she issue or renew any orders related to COVID-19?
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And the second question was whether the EPA GA, so the emergency powers of the governor act violates the separation of powers or the non delegation clauses of the Michigan constitution, right?
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So let's reframe that.
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Let's do a quick revisit to our civics class, social studies or whatever you call it.
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But in the United States, we have three different branches of government.
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We have the executive branch, which enforces the law.
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We have the legislative branch, which drafts the law.
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And then we have the judicial branch, which judges the law, it governs between the two and says, whether something's constitutional or not are allowed or not.
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And so what's happening here is that the court is coming through and they're saying, you can't, you can't do this.
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The authority to extend
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The COVID lockdown
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To extend any of these executive orders comes from the,
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And so ms.
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Governor, if you're going to just take over one of the powers of the legislatures, that's not
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Aloud because you're not the legislature.
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You can only enforce the laws.
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You don't get to just draft them and write them and come up with whatever you want.
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That's what the people do by electing their representatives.
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You're the governor you're supposed to enforce it and dutifully, execute the laws, not just draft up whatever the hell you want and put it into law.
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And so that's really where the two claims are coming from.
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The second main claim is about this, this, uh, this EPG, this emergency powers of governor.
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Yeah.
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Where they're essentially saying that they can't the legislature, can't delegate one of the,
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Their powers to the governor.
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So remember this also, you can't one branch can't delegate something to the other.
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So let's say we all sort of naturally understand that one branch can't come in and take over your power.
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So if I'm the president and the legislature comes in and they say, Hey, we want to be commander
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Chief.
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I'd say, what are you nuts
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Out here?
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I'm the president.
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I'm the commander.
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And chief don't even think about it, right?
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So you'd push the Congress out.
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But similarly you can't delegate either.
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So if I'm the president and I say, listen, I don't want to be commander in chief anymore.
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This whole foreign policy thing is just way over my head.
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I would like to give that over to Congress.
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I think, you know, why should one person be the commander in chief?
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That's insane.
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Let me just give that over to Congress.
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I'm going to delegate that over to them wrong.
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You can't do that either.
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You can't delegate and you can't sort
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Of trample all
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Over a different branches powers.
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And so that's what they're talking about here in Michigan.
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Sounds sorta like the legislature at some point,
delegated some of their rights and responsibilities over to the government that may have been back in 1945.
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And the question then is whether any of that is true or not.
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So let me go through what we're going to go through.
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This.
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It's a, it's a big wall of texts.
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Let me read through it.
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Cause I think there's some interesting stuff here.
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It says, this is, this was from justice, Markman, justice, Zahra justice, Clement.
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They concluded the governor lacked the, this is from a Supreme court case, by the way, in the state of Michigan, the governor lacked the authority to declare a state of emergency.
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And one more, one more thing.
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This case came out before the order that I just read to you.
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Okay?
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So that order from the governor, the executive order that was 18 slides or seven slides or whatever it was with all these different statutory requirements.
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This Supreme court case came out before that.
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So they're using different authority.
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They're using they're, they're, they're implementing this executive order.
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In spite of this case, this was already in the law, in the state of Michigan.
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Here's what it says.
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Justice Markman joined by Sohara and climate concluded.
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The governor lacked the authority to declare a state of emergency or a state of disaster under the EMA, after April 30th.
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So she got her, the initial request was okay, but after April 30th, not anymore, at least on the basis of the COVID-19 pandemic, the EPG violated the Michigan constitution because it delegated to the executive branch, the legislative powers of the state government, and it allowed the executive branch to exercise those powers indefinitely.
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You can't do that.
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You can't give that stuff over there because they'll never give it back.
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First under the AMA, the governor only possessed the authority to declare a state of emergency once and then had to terminate that declaration.
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When the legislature did not authorize an extension, the governor possessed no authority to re declare the same state of emergency the same state of a disaster, and thereby avoid the legislature's limitation.
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Second, regarding the statutory language of the PGA plaintiff's argument that an emergency must be short-lived.
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And the legislature's argument was only intended to address local emergencies.
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They were unconvincing while the EPA only allows the governor to declare a state of emergency.
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When public safety is imperiled, public health emergencies can be said to imperil public safety.
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Third, as the scope of powers conferred upon the governor by the legislature becomes increasingly broad in regard to both subject matter and duration, the standards imposed upon the governors must correspondingly become more detailed and more precise.
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And so the first question that they were talking about here, it says it's partially answered in the negative.
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The governor did not have the authority after April 30th to issue or renew any executive orders related to COVID-19.
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The second certified question is also partially answered in the affirmative.
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The governor did not possess the authority to exercise emergency powers under the LPGA, because the act unlawfully, delegates legislative power to the executive branch and so on.
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And so there is now some information that there are people locally in Michigan who want to see her impeached as a result of this.
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So we have a Supreme court order, not from the United States Supreme court, but from the local Michigan Supreme court that says you can't keep extending these orders to the end of the earth.
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Governor Whitmer turns around and says, yes, I can watch me.
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Then we have somebody named Bo Lafarge over in Michigan, who is explaining here that he is actually filing four articles of impeachment against governor Whitmore.
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And they include failing to respect the separation of powers, violating constitutional rights, issuing executive orders against the interest of the people and using state resources to reward political allies.
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All right.
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So here he is
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Representative LaFave and others offered house resolution three to four, a resolution directing the impeachment of Gretchen Whitmer governor of the state of Michigan for a corrupt conduct in office, in crimes and misdemeanors, the wrestlers referred to the committee on government operations.
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All right.
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So that will be forthcoming.
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I actually don't think that that's going to, I don't think that's going anywhere, unfortunately.
00:54:19.969 --> 00:54:20.480
Uh, let's see.
00:54:20.481 --> 00:54:23.659
Here we have, we have, ms.
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Faith was doing some clipping for me.
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I was literally skidding in here to get to the program.
00:54:28.431 -->
00:54:30.800
I had court this afternoon that went very long.
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So, all right.
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So here's what reps Bolafade and Matthew Maddock were saying, they're saying they announced articles as new coronavirus restrictions went into effect on Wednesday.
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The articles accused governor Whitmer of corrupt conduct in office having exceeded her constitutional authority during the pandemic.
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It reads in part, whereas in responding to the COVID-19 pandemic, Gretchen Whitmer has acted in conflict with her constitutional duties as governor.
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She has exceeded her constitutional authority, violated the constitutional rights of the people of Michigan issued orders that are not in the best interest of the people of the state and use a pandemic as an opportunity to reward political allies.
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These actions are a matter of public record, primarily in the form of executive orders and the enforcement thereof now therefore be resolved and so on.
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She's impeached for corrupt conduct in office and for crimes and misdemeanors.
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All right.
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So that's that.
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So that's going on around the country and quite frankly, I think there's gonna be more of this.
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I think as more and more of these lockdown orders come into play businesses.
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Can't, can't, can't succeed.
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People can't live their lives.
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It's a huge, huge concern.
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Now I am all for reasonable measures and for helping those people who need the help.
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But I don't think that includes literally everybody under the sun, which is unfortunately what a lot of these States are trying to implement.
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We've I've, I've made the point when this all first started a long time ago.
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Why are the healthy people being penalized for trying to continue the economy for trying to continue to be out there?
00:55:55.460 --> 00:56:03.110
Why are we not passing laws that just really, really restrict the people or, or let's say assist the people who are the higher risk categories.
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To me, this seems like using a what's it called a cannon to kill a house fly, right?
00:56:11.150 --> 00:56:12.679
And that's just not what we want in this country.
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So we're going to continue to follow that story around as well.
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All right.
00:56:16.190 --> 00:56:23.210
Let's turn our attention over to the final thing I wanted to mention somewhat briefly today because it's, uh, it's still developing.
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We all know, or if you're a regular, this channel, Kyle Rittenhouse was very recently released or this past weekend from custody out in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
00:56:33.369 --> 00:56:40.030
Finally, finally, finally, so two things on this number one, I'm very happy that he's out of custody, hats off to his team
00:56:40.329 --> 00:56:42.070
For getting him there.
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:44.949
John Pierce Lynwood, he's got another attorney.
00:56:44.951 --> 00:56:49.090
Who's actually a criminal defense attorney local in Wisconsin, and they got him out of custody.
00:56:49.900 --> 00:56:53.170
My critique on this it's two and a half months too late.
00:56:53.380 --> 00:56:54.639
I already explained this.
00:56:54.641 --> 00:57:01.030
I've had a lot of criticisms for Linwood and for John Pierce and for his legal team, because they're not criminal defense lawyers.
00:57:01.210 --> 00:57:07.420
And they spent the last two and a half months fighting over this extradition stuff in where, where they lost everything.
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:12.789
And they had real, no, really in my opinion, no legitimate basis for even challenging it.
00:57:12.940 --> 00:57:15.880
I understand what they were doing, but it was a boneheaded strategy.
00:57:16.090 --> 00:57:17.769
And we were proven right on this channel.
00:57:17.771 --> 00:57:23.500
Now I don't like to generally, I don't like to toot my own horn on this channel, but beep beep on this one, all right.
00:57:23.739 --> 00:57:27.699
I said two and a half months ago, they should drop the extradition stuff.
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They should send them back over to Kenosha.
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It's a$2 million bond.
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I had no doubt in my mind that he could raise the money to do it.
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As we saw, I think Michael and Dell and some
00:57:35.889 --> 00:57:38.199
Other people donated the, the
00:57:38.739 --> 00:57:40.269
Fulsome he's out of custody, which is good news.
00:57:40.271 --> 00:57:40.690
It's great
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News.
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But this could
00:57:42.730 --> 00:57:44.920
Have happened a long, long time ago.
00:57:44.949 --> 00:57:54.730
You may remember if you're a regular here that previously we talked about a different case out of Kenosha, out of the same district attorney's office with very similar facts.
00:57:54.731 --> 00:57:55.900
Her name was crystal Kaiser.
00:57:55.929 --> 00:57:57.340
We talked about her at length.
00:57:57.550 --> 00:58:05.829
She was in custody for very similar murder charges and she got her bond reduced down from a million to 400,000 and she's also out of custody.
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So our, uh, thought process was the analysis on this thing was, well, why
00:58:09.820 --> 00:58:12.190
Don't they, if, if, if Kyle
00:58:12.190 --> 00:58:15.369
Rittenhouse and his legal team wanted to bring him over to Illinois,
00:58:16.179 --> 00:58:17.650
He was going to sit in custody
00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:20.590
For two and
a half months pending the outcome of the extradition hearing.
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Because according to Illinois law, if you're, if you're home, if the home state where the original claim was, won't let you out of custody.
00:58:27.911 --> 00:58:30.519
Then they're going to honor that, or they're not going to let you out of custody in Illinois.
00:58:30.550 --> 00:58:40.960
So he was sitting in Illinois for two and a half months while his attorneys were filing these, these re uh, these, um, habeas Corpus petitions, trying to get them out of custody.
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.389
We all knew that that was a long shot, that that was not going to happen.
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:53.079
And so he just sat there for two and a half months now, after they lost the extradition hearing argument in court, John Pierce was on Twitter the very day saying, we're going to appeal this thing.
00:58:53.081 --> 00:58:54.820
We're going to appeal this thing to the end of the world.
00:58:54.820 --> 00:58:58.659
We're going to fight, fight, fight, hashtag fight back, just go here and donate some money.
00:58:58.869 --> 00:58:59.920
And we're going to keep fighting
00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:00.369
This thing.
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Well, before
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We knew it, that was strange because
00:59:04.570 --> 00:59:06.610
Literally like within 12 hours,
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:13.599
Kyle Rittenhouse had already been transported back to Wisconsin and they were already gathering the funds supposed to bond, which should have been done at the very beginning.
00:59:13.601 --> 00:59:15.460
They should have just, okay, send them back over there.
00:59:15.670 --> 00:59:17.079
We know we can get'em out of custody.
00:59:17.081 --> 00:59:30.800
We know we've got a somewhat sympathetic jurisdiction because the, and the, the, uh, judge, at least in the building, granted somebody else, a major reduction in a bond for a very similar case, look up the case for crystal Kaiser.
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Watch our old videos.
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If you want, where she got hurt, bond reduced down dramatically.
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:37.280
So good news that he's out.
00:59:37.429 --> 00:59:40.309
I think he sat in custody for two and a half months too long.
00:59:40.489 --> 00:59:41.960
And that leaves a lot to be desired.
00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:43.070
I think from his legal team.
00:59:43.099 --> 00:59:49.489
Now another little, another little, you know, all right, let's talk about it.
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All right.
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So this is a picture from Linwood.
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This is, uh, he posted this.
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This is John Pierce here over here.
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Apparently this is some guy named Ricky Schroder, an actor.
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Then we have Kyle Rittenhouse right here.
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Now this look, you might call this poor form.
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I don't know.
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Um, I, I personally wouldn't take a picture like that with my client.
01:00:11.570 --> 01:00:12.139
I wouldn't do it.
01:00:12.141 --> 01:00:13.010
I think it's poor form.
01:00:13.099 --> 01:00:15.500
I don't think that it's proper etiquette.
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:21.619
I think that it's something that, um, is sort of looked down upon.
01:00:21.650 --> 01:00:23.389
Now look, let me, let me distinguish this.
01:00:23.391 --> 01:00:32.570
Maybe at the very end of the case, maybe when the case is over, maybe when it's all said and done, you have your victory in court and everybody can go home and sleep at night on their own pillows.
01:00:33.469 --> 01:00:40.250
Maybe then you go out, you have a drink, you have a steak, you have a fat burger, you become friends and life's good.
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:41.570
This is not there.
01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:42.469
We're not there yet.
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Okay.
01:00:42.951 --> 01:00:51.739
Kyle Rittenhouse has probably two years left of this case moving forward, unless something happens and the da just changes course and decides to dismiss the case.
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I'm going to guess that doesn't happen.
01:00:53.690 --> 01:00:55.489
So this is in my mind.
01:00:55.490 --> 01:00:56.539
It's a little premature.
01:00:56.541 --> 01:00:59.239
I think it's a little bit improper.
01:00:59.269 --> 01:01:02.000
Remember Kyle Rittenhouse is like 17 might be 18.
01:01:02.001 --> 01:01:02.210
Now.
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I'm not sure a young guy and to have an attorney like literally go and like thumbs up and just want to be next to him and just promote this stuff over social media.
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:14.389
It's just, it just rubs me the wrong way.
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I that's all I can say about it.
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There's no formal etiquette about this.
01:01:17.630 --> 01:01:19.369
There's no, nothing improper about it.
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I just don't like it.
01:01:20.090 --> 01:01:20.869
I don't think it's good.
01:01:21.139 --> 01:01:25.909
I think that Kyle is probably a very young, he's very young, very fragile.
01:01:25.909 --> 01:01:30.469
He just came out of custody and maybe I'm making too much ado about this whole thing, but it just doesn't.
01:01:30.940 --> 01:01:32.659
It just doesn't feel right to me.
01:01:32.690 --> 01:01:38.480
I have always gotten the impression that both Lynnwood and John peers are media personalities.
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First and foremost, they're not lawyers.
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They're technically lawyers.
01:01:43.581 --> 01:01:45.349
I read Lynwood's complaint on here.
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And I thought it was a good complaint.
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:48.320
I thought it was interesting.
01:01:48.320 --> 01:02:00.170
Now it got dismissed for a lack of standing, which is a whole separate issue, but
I, you know, they're they're attorneys and they do, uh, they, they, they, they do legal work, but first and foremost, I've always considered them to be just kind of Twitter people.
01:02:00.230 --> 01:02:03.050
You know, they just, they're always tweeting about Lord knows what?
01:02:03.380 --> 01:02:11.300
And I thought that this Rittenhouse case was something where they were just really just trying to kind of encroach in on the limelight a little bit and steal some of the thunder.
01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.360
And there's some other people out there who've done some really deep dives.
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:22.980
We've covered them on this program about a lot of their, their personal problems, you know, all these credit problems and significant amounts of debt and all this stuff.
01:02:23.250 --> 01:02:31.260
And so when I see pictures like this and the seed has already been planted in my mind that maybe these guys are just sort of, you know, kind of grifting on the Rittenhouse train.
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:34.260
And I see a picture like that and it kind of just confirms it for me.
01:02:34.260 --> 01:02:36.360
So it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
01:02:36.389 --> 01:02:40.590
I don't know what you have to say about it, but that's, that's, that's, that's my opinion on it.
01:02:40.590 --> 01:02:44.219
I know it's probably not a popular one, but I do want to get it out there.
01:02:44.250 --> 01:02:51.000
Here's another statement from Linwood, just off the phone with Kyle, with tears in my eyes, I listened to the express, thanks to the people for your prayers, donations and support.
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.099
He prayed every night and said, God lifted him up.
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:54.389
Every time he fell, Kyle's a hero.
01:02:54.510 --> 01:02:55.619
So it was his supporters.
01:02:55.621 --> 01:02:56.730
Keep him in your prayers.
01:02:56.940 --> 01:02:58.500
So nothing really to disagree with there.
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Uh, I think that's all, that's all well and good.
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:02.969
And I'm glad that he is out of custody.
01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:04.050
What's next for Kyle?
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Well, on December 3rd, it looks like he has a preliminary hearing.
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And for those of you on YouTube, there's a YouTube link there.
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So it sounds like they may actually be broadcasting.
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This, it is set for a preliminary hearing in front of Lauren Keating and it is at 10:30 AM over in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
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So Mark that down on your calendar as, and even plugged that channel in if you want to follow along.
01:03:27.090 --> 01:03:29.909
So I don't know exactly what the, what the proceeding is yet.
01:03:29.911 --> 01:03:31.409
It says it's a preliminary hearing.
01:03:31.710 --> 01:03:33.000
That can mean a couple of different things.
01:03:33.030 --> 01:03:35.760
Generally speaking, a preliminary
hearing is preliminary.
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:39.059
It's very basic and essentially at least how we do things in Arizona.
01:03:39.090 --> 01:03:41.670
And for most other jurisdictions, they call up.
01:03:41.849 --> 01:03:44.550
I'm also licensed in California, but I'm not licensed in Wisconsin.
01:03:44.550 --> 01:03:49.500
So I don't know specifically, but I can just sort of, uh, speculate based on my experience in two other States.
01:03:49.829 --> 01:03:57.239
And so preliminary hearing by and large it's when it can be something that is very significant in terms of presenting evidence.
01:03:57.269 --> 01:04:05.460
So in order for felony charges to be filed and move forward in court, they have to show that there's a basis for filing them in the first place.
01:04:05.699 --> 01:04:07.800
It's a little bit different than like a traffic ticket.
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:08.880
You just get a traffic ticket.
01:04:09.090 --> 01:04:10.679
The cop says, I saw you speeding.
01:04:10.980 --> 01:04:11.610
Here you go.
01:04:11.699 --> 01:04:12.539
Here's your ticket.
01:04:12.789 --> 01:04:14.250
Can't do that for a murder charge.
01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:15.659
Well, I kinda saw you murder.
01:04:15.659 --> 01:04:17.190
Somebody think, think you murdered him.
01:04:17.489 --> 01:04:18.300
Here you go.
01:04:18.570 --> 01:04:19.349
It doesn't work like that.
01:04:19.380 --> 01:04:22.619
There's actually a lot more procedure that takes place before you get into court.
01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:27.000
And so in a situation like this preliminary hearing could be involved.
01:04:27.001 --> 01:04:42.960
It could involve the officers, the investigators, they could be challenging the probable cause for the original underlying charges, or this could be just a very basic procedural hearing where all the attorneys show up, they make sure that certain things have happened.
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:45.269
Like discovery has been provided discovery.
01:04:45.271 --> 01:04:46.289
We call disclosure.
01:04:46.291 --> 01:04:47.460
It's the government's file.
01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:53.670
When, uh, when the, when the, when you're arrested for something or charged with a crime, remember that the government has most of the evidence.
01:04:53.670 --> 01:04:54.510
If not all of it.
01:04:54.769 --> 01:04:56.519
In, in many cases, they have basically everything.
01:04:56.730 --> 01:04:58.289
They have all of the witness statements.
01:04:58.291 --> 01:05:02.579
They may have surveillance footage, they have the investigators, they have the recordings of all the interviews.
01:05:02.579 --> 01:05:03.000
They did.
01:05:03.001 --> 01:05:05.280
They have the body cameras, they have it all.
01:05:05.429 --> 01:05:08.760
And so as part of disclosure, they got to give that stuff to us.
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:13.110
And so that's, you know, that's sort of what the judge wants to know has that stuff happened?
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Have you disclosed anything that, that, you know,
you intend to be using at the preliminary hearing, they want to make sure both sides have equal footing.
01:05:21.251 --> 01:05:26.739
They both have, I would say the relevant pertinent documents that are necessary for the next proceeding.
01:05:26.949 --> 01:05:34.150
And so the preliminary hearing may just be something where the, everybody just goes into court, stands up and announces and says, yeah, your honor, everything's good.
01:05:34.300 --> 01:05:34.929
We're all set.
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:37.809
So we're going to have our, our next hearing on this day.
01:05:37.811 --> 01:05:40.960
And or they may address a couple of little things while your honor, I send an email for that.
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I haven't gotten that back yet.
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Judge will go back and say, well, get that stuff over to them and hash out the details so that the case can move forward.
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:59.489
So we're going to see, of course we Rittenhouse since the very beginning, some of our, uh, some of our most watched videos were the Rittenhouse analysis where we did a frame-by-frame analyze the sound, the gunshots and all that stuff.
01:05:59.730 --> 01:06:05.429
It was, uh, it was an interesting case and it is going to continue to be interesting and we will follow that along.
01:06:05.431 --> 01:06:08.760
So we want to make sure that you're subscribed and a part of that conversation.
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:11.789
So, all right, my friends let's go ahead and jump into the chat.
01:06:12.090 --> 01:06:13.710
We had some super chats come in.
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We have Wayne Janssen who says, uh, we're probably talking about Trump.
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This came in earlier.
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:22.500
He says another example of 40 chest media not reporting.
01:06:22.530 --> 01:06:30.360
So water was tested with Tucker's help now media taking the bait sheep back, checking Sydney's posts.
01:06:30.659 --> 01:06:30.900
Okay.
01:06:30.900 --> 01:06:42.510
So somebody, so Wayne is, is thinking that, uh, that, that maybe, maybe Sydney, you know, this is all part of that, that four dimensional chess board going on, that this was all strategic and all coordinated.
01:06:42.750 --> 01:06:48.480
And you, you really can't, you really, I think that's probably a long shot, but you really can't put it past them at this point.
01:06:48.481 --> 01:06:49.889
You know, there they are.
01:06:50.190 --> 01:06:53.190
It feels like they've been talking about a lot of this for a long time.
01:06:53.190 --> 01:06:55.110
This may just be part of their strategy.
01:06:55.110 --> 01:06:56.670
Now, I don't know what kind of a strategy it is.
01:06:56.670 --> 01:07:01.469
I will, I will say this, if this was something, let me, let me just detail this part.
01:07:01.710 --> 01:07:10.860
If, if we're Sidney Powell and I was on the Trump team and I woke up and got a press release like that, I'd be pretty furious about it.
01:07:11.429 -->
01:07:11.429
Okay.
01:07:11.431 --> 01:07:16.949
Especially after a Tuesday proceeding, when I was literally the second person to speak at the conference.
01:07:17.099 --> 01:07:25.409
So if my, you know, my, my team, the people who I was fighting for, if they turned around and just said, we're gonna write a press release and just post it on Twitter, you're gone.
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:27.630
I'd be pretty furious about that.
01:07:27.659 --> 01:07:27.840
Right.
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:28.380
And rightfully so.
01:07:28.469 --> 01:07:31.349
So would you, so I'm going to guess that that didn't happen.
01:07:31.619 --> 01:07:39.059
So Powell, you know, sh her, her press release was know, we understand it felt like it was a little bit amicable to me.
01:07:39.061 --> 01:07:40.800
Like they may have had a conversation about it.
01:07:40.980 --> 01:07:49.320
And like, this was a mutually agreed double separation for what it's worth, uh, Durango Sullivan.
01:07:49.469 --> 01:07:51.840
Who's always here says Trump observers didn't turn their back.
01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:58.289
They were blocked audits, still blocked millions of Trump votes canceled by illegal votes on the margin.
01:07:58.409 --> 01:07:58.559
Okay.
01:07:58.561 --> 01:08:01.619
So I understand, I understand that criticism.
01:08:01.621 --> 01:08:09.750
And I understand this idea that Donald Trump and his supporters and, and all of the observers were rightfully allowed to be in there.
01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:19.489
And so when I make this, when I make the example of the chess board and turning your back and them doing something, I, that I know that it's a little bit high hyperbolic, it's a little, you know, obviously it's an analogy.
01:08:19.490 --> 01:08:20.960
It's not, what's actually going on.
01:08:21.170 --> 01:08:23.149
We've covered a lot of the claims from the observers.
01:08:23.150 --> 01:08:24.949
We said, they're locked out of the rooms.
01:08:25.090 --> 01:08:30.319
We've, we've showed videos of them putting stuff up on the windows so that people can't see all of that is problematic.
01:08:30.350 --> 01:08:35.449
And we even went through the Michigan statutes where they talk about specifically, they call them Watchers.
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:39.409
It's one of those States where they call them, you know, Watchers, which really stood out to me cause that's the name of this program.
01:08:39.739 --> 01:08:46.250
And they're very, very, very detailed rules on what is required for them.
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.279
And if you violate those rules, it's a pretty big problem.
01:08:49.550 --> 01:08:51.079
Now, I agree with that.
01:08:51.140 --> 01:08:55.640
And I agree that observing is important and I agree that they should be given access and all of that stuff.
01:08:55.909 --> 01:08:57.829
The issue here is the remedy.
01:08:58.010 --> 01:09:02.720
The remedy that has been proposed by the Trump team has been way too.
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:07.640
Over-broad in my mind just by
saying, well, we didn't get to observe those that we should invalidate.
01:09:07.729 --> 01:09:10.039
The entire election is overbroad.
01:09:10.041 --> 01:09:11.689
The remedy needs to match the harm.
01:09:11.690 --> 01:09:19.189
And I made this example before that if somebody rear ends you, and it's just a, just a little bit of a bump, you don't go rearrange your Camry.
01:09:19.489 --> 01:09:24.859
You don't go and ask for a Lamborghini as a replacement because it's, over-broad the remedy doesn't match the harm.
01:09:25.060 --> 01:09:28.010
They hit and ruined your Camry, not a Lamborghini.
01:09:28.130 --> 01:09:29.390
Therefore you don't get a Lamborghini.
01:09:29.659 --> 01:09:33.800
And so that's kind of what the Trump team was asking for, or to use the chess analogy.
01:09:33.801 --> 01:09:36.260
It would be like, okay, well, I didn't see that move.
01:09:36.470 --> 01:09:39.260
Therefore, we need to invalidate the entire game.
01:09:40.189 --> 01:09:41.659
No judge is going to do that.
01:09:41.899 --> 01:09:44.869
And so we needed more specificity as to what the harm was.
01:09:44.871 --> 01:09:53.359
The remedy has to match the harm in this case, it wasn't observing, but, but not observing by itself does not mean that there was underlying malfeasance.
01:09:53.510 --> 01:09:54.859
You can, you can apply that.
01:09:54.860 --> 01:09:56.119
You can speculate about that.
01:09:56.121 --> 01:09:57.380
It's probably true.
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:08.029
There's probably a motive for that, but, but a judge would not invalidate an entire state or, or remove the vote from that contingency of voters.
01:10:08.750 --> 01:10:10.159
But I understand your point drug.
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:13.039
I know, listen, I know that some of this stuff is bad news.
01:10:13.250 --> 01:10:17.359
I know that there are a lot of people who are a part of this channel, who, who, you know, are, are Trump supporters.
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:18.470
They want him to succeed.
01:10:18.500 --> 01:10:19.819
I am not a Biden fan.
01:10:19.820 --> 01:10:21.890
I will tell you that in many people have picked up on that.
01:10:22.069 --> 01:10:25.039
And so the audience has, has a certain demographic.
01:10:25.041 --> 01:10:29.449
I would, I would speculate, but this is what's happening.
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:31.069
And I have to tell you what's happening.
01:10:31.130 --> 01:10:39.199
And there, I think there are a lot of people out there who are commenting on this stuff, and they're sort of, they're, they're, they're kind of misleading people down a path.
01:10:39.201 --> 01:10:45.979
And so I don't want to be in a position where, where, where my relationship with you was less than full of integrity.
01:10:45.980 --> 01:10:49.279
And if I'm seeing something that, that looks concerning, I have to tell you about it.
01:10:49.739 --> 01:10:50.689
Uh, and that's my commitment to you.
01:10:50.690 --> 01:10:53.869
And sometimes people are going to unsubscribe and hit the in bail out of here.
01:10:54.050 --> 01:10:56.479
I understand that, but this is what we're seeing.
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:59.000
This is what the, the primary sources look like.
01:10:59.210 --> 01:11:01.250
And so we just need to, you know, we need to think about it.
01:11:01.460 --> 01:11:10.819
And regardless of what happens, we need to keep this, you know, this, this conversation, this movement is bigger than any one candidate or any one cause or any one politician.
01:11:10.820 --> 01:11:12.229
It's about, it's about freedom.
01:11:12.409 --> 01:11:15.239
It's about, it's about participating in self-governance.
01:11:15.240 --> 01:11:19.380
It's about minimizing the intrusiveness of the government onto our lives.
01:11:19.381 --> 01:11:29.189
It doesn't matter what it is, whether it's governor Whitmer and her COVID-19 lockdown, whether it's a stolen election or whether it's a police officer illegally executing a warrant on your property.
01:11:29.430 --> 01:11:31.890
It's the government they're intruding on us.
01:11:31.890 --> 01:11:37.649
They're intruding on our, our freedom to live our lives in peace in many, many ways.
01:11:37.650 --> 01:11:38.699
And a lot of people disagree with that.
01:11:38.701 --> 01:11:44.609
And I catch a lot of heat for this type of commentary, but that's how I feel most of the time when something is going on
01:11:44.689 --> 01:11:49.310
Wrong, you can trace it back to the government most of the time.
01:11:49.970 --> 01:11:50.180
All right.
01:11:50.720 --> 01:11:51.289
Uh, let's go on.
01:11:51.291 --> 01:12:05.779
We have one from Pat D who says, when does the burden of proof shift from Trump's team having to prove fraud was committed to election officials having to prove fraud wasn't committed after it's established laws rules, weren't followed in a substantial way.
01:12:05.960 --> 01:12:07.880
So it's a, it's a great question from Pat.
01:12:08.060 --> 01:12:08.060
Yeah.
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:09.350
A very, very good question.
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:16.130
And this is something that I haven't spent a lot of time on this channel because you can really dive into some legal Lees on this and this can get very abstract.
01:12:16.430 --> 01:12:20.210
But when I think about it, think about it.
01:12:20.359 --> 01:12:24.020
W w we've always talked about the two different waging competing theories.
01:12:24.050 --> 01:12:26.539
Donald Trump has the court claims that he needs to make.
01:12:26.541 --> 01:12:30.770
And Donald Trump has the public court claims the, the opinion of the public world.
01:12:30.770 --> 01:12:33.380
What does everybody else thinking about what the president is doing?
01:12:33.381 --> 01:12:35.359
Because it's all about legitimacy.
01:12:35.539 --> 01:12:35.750
It doesn't
01:12:35.750 --> 01:12:37.489
Matter what side of the aisle you're on
01:12:37.939 --> 01:12:38.630
Legitimacy.
01:12:38.659 --> 01:12:44.630
The government needs legitimacy, anybody running for office, anybody making
legal claims, there needs to be a legitimate basis for it.
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:48.079
And so the question here is kind of interesting because it, it goes, it cuts both ways.
01:12:48.409 --> 01:12:54.310
So on the one hand, the mainstream idea that Joe Biden is the next
01:12:54.890 --> 01:12:57.500
Or the, the, the projected president elect
01:12:57.649 --> 01:12:59.600
Has a lot of legitimacy right now.
01:12:59.630 --> 01:13:01.609
Whether you agree with that or not, okay,
01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:03.590
The numbers are currently in his favor.
01:13:03.619 --> 01:13:04.670
Now you may not believe the numbers.
01:13:04.671 --> 01:13:07.699
You may think they're unjustified, but they're literally in his favor.
01:13:08.029 --> 01:13:09.470
And so you have to deal with that fact.
01:13:09.500 --> 01:13:13.159
It's a bad fact, many people don't like to acknowledge it, but it's a bad fact.
01:13:13.340 --> 01:13:16.880
And so if you want to undermine that claim, you have to go do one of two things.
01:13:16.881 --> 01:13:24.649
You have to either disqualify a big bucket of votes, or you have to show that basically the entire election was invalid.
01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:27.380
And we've, we've analyzed both of those claims from a number of different angles.
01:13:27.829 --> 01:13:30.350
And so the presumption there in that world
01:13:30.380 --> 01:13:32.300
Is that everything is okay.
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:33.170
And
01:13:33.380 --> 01:13:39.350
Donald Trump now has the burden of over of over shadowing, that, of overcoming that.
01:13:39.710 --> 01:13:44.600
And so in my mind, I was trying to think about what the practical burden of proof was.
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:50.270
And when you talk about burden of proof, it's it's, who has to do what in order to prove their case and what amount do they have to prove.
01:13:50.449 --> 01:13:56.090
So when we talk about it in the context of criminal law, you probably have heard about this concept called beyond a reasonable doubt, right?
01:13:56.091 --> 01:13:58.850
You have to prove somebody guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
01:13:58.850 --> 01:14:04.220
If it's just likely, if it's just, they probably did it, it was just, they might have done it, or they could have done it.
01:14:04.220 --> 01:14:04.880
That's not enough.
01:14:04.909 --> 01:14:10.399
It's beyond a reasonable doubt, which means if you have any doubt in your mind, that's based in reason.
01:14:12.310 --> 01:14:21.909
Then if somebody just sent me a, some breaking news, if you have any doubt, that's based in reason, then that is enough to invalidate the charge.
01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:22.569
Right.
01:14:22.810 --> 01:14:25.569
And that's kind of what we're talking about here.
01:14:26.109 --> 01:14:30.520
What level does Donald Trump have to prove in order for it to invalidate an entire election?
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:33.729
Would it be some w would it be something lower than beyond a reasonable doubt?
01:14:33.939 --> 01:14:34.750
I don't think so.
01:14:35.050 --> 01:14:45.760
If Donald Trump could go into court and just say, well, it's more likely than not, that this thing has gone bad, then that would be, that would not be enough.
01:14:45.761 --> 01:14:47.979
A judge is not going to overturn an election for that.
01:14:49.180 --> 01:14:49.180
Alright.
01:14:50.829 --> 01:14:54.909
Uh, Adam S just says, Trump has authorized the transition.
01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:59.529
So let's take a look at that, Adam, that would be big news.
01:14:59.770 --> 01:14:59.949
All right.
01:14:59.951 --> 01:15:10.060
Let's see if we have anything that I am seeing here on the Twitter, and let's see if there's any other questions while we're hopping in there.
01:15:10.060 --> 01:15:12.850
Anybody confirm that is, that is, that has that happened?
01:15:14.859 --> 01:15:15.369
All right.
01:15:15.371 --> 01:15:19.239
So we have here democracy party of Canada says, great show.
01:15:19.240 --> 01:15:21.640
I've watched everyday for two weeks since YouTube recommended it.
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:24.420
So real remedy, wouldn't a redo of the state's election.
01:15:24.449 --> 01:15:27.609
Be most fair remedy so that nobody's votes are invalidated.
01:15:28.539 --> 01:15:29.439
Yeah.
01:15:29.619 --> 01:15:33.039
So, um, that's a good question.
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:36.880
Let's take a look.
01:15:37.810 --> 01:15:38.020
Yeah.
01:15:38.020 --> 01:15:39.460
So a redo of the state's election.
01:15:39.461 --> 01:15:44.109
So, you know, they're going to say that it's already been done and it's already been done properly.
01:15:44.170 --> 01:15:47.619
And that the, the appropriate remedy for that is an audit or a recount.
01:15:47.770 --> 01:15:50.829
That's going to be their claim, not to redo the entirety of the election.
01:15:50.859 --> 01:15:52.239
They're going to say, it's already justified.
01:15:52.240 --> 01:15:53.109
It's already kosher.
01:15:53.110 --> 01:15:53.800
Everything's fine.
01:15:54.100 --> 01:16:07.180
And we're not going to, um, we're not going to just redo the whole election because then at that point in time and think about this also every single time that somebody has a complaint about how an election was run, and they just claimed and said, why didn't have an observer?
01:16:07.750 --> 01:16:09.760
Would they have to just redo the entire election?
01:16:09.970 --> 01:16:12.460
No, the burden is on the person, challenging the claim.
01:16:12.939 --> 01:16:18.489
And, um, I don't think that the, the, the Trump team has done that quite yet.
01:16:18.970 --> 01:16:19.180
All right.
01:16:19.180 --> 01:16:20.710
So Adam S sent another one.
01:16:20.711 --> 01:16:22.060
He says, great show.
01:16:22.060 --> 01:16:23.739
Great attorney London, England.
01:16:23.770 --> 01:16:24.460
Thanks Adam.
01:16:24.461 --> 01:16:27.909
And thanks for giving us the ping on this story over here.
01:16:27.911 --> 01:16:31.569
So we can see that we have Biden transition, live updates.
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--> 01:16:35.350
Trump authorizes the administration to begin working with Biden on transition.
01:16:35.350 --> 01:16:35.859
Interesting.
01:16:36.100 --> 01:16:37.600
Michigan certified its results.
01:16:37.630 --> 01:16:41.470
President elect Joe Biden is expected to announce his picks.
01:16:41.859 --> 01:16:45.729
The GSA administrator has formally designated Biden.
01:16:45.730 --> 01:16:48.880
The apparent winner of the presidential election.
01:16:49.029 --> 01:16:50.529
We got some more breaking news.
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.350
Looks like it's literally going on right now.
01:16:53.350 --> 01:16:54.000
So ms.
01:16:54.010 --> 01:16:56.979
Faith sent me this one, breaking news in, uh, Oh, here we go.
01:16:58.270 --> 01:17:05.770
Um, we have on November 23rd from Donald Trump, it says, I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for his steadfast dedication and loyalty to our country.
01:17:05.859 --> 01:17:06.960
She has been harassed, threatened, abused.
01:17:06.961 --> 01:17:08.560
I do not want to see this happen to her family.
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:09.859
Our case continues.
01:17:10.069 --> 01:17:14.779
We will keep up the good fight and I believe we will prevail nevertheless, in the best interest of our country.
01:17:14.780 --> 01:17:20.000
I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols.
01:17:20.210 --> 01:17:26.750
And I've told my team to do the same interesting, very, very interesting folks.
01:17:27.470 --> 01:17:32.630
All right, John Noel says, Sidney Powell keeps saying all she needs is preponderance of the evidence for her case.
01:17:33.289 --> 01:17:34.460
I know she's saying that.
01:17:35.180 --> 01:17:39.859
I think it's a much higher standard than that preponderance of the evidence means if it's more likely than
01:17:40.090 --> 01:17:44.409
Then not, then, uh, then that's all that's necessary.
01:17:44.411 --> 01:17:44.680
So
01:17:45.189 --> 01:17:47.260
Under reasonable doubt is a very high standard.
01:17:47.289 --> 01:17:51.909
When we talk about percentages in criminal law, we typically say that it's basically anything that's over.
01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:58.449
Uh, anything that's over about 80% is like, you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, preponderance of the evidence is like 51%.
01:17:58.659 --> 01:18:04.989
So if it's more likely than not that something bad happened, then that person is responsible for that offense.
01:18:05.289 --> 01:18:10.600
And, uh, it's looking like multiple people are now confirming that Donald Trump
01:18:11.020 --> 01:18:14.979
Has officially authorized the GSA to recognize Joe Biden.
01:18:15.699 --> 01:18:16.630
So that's pretty exciting.
01:18:16.810 --> 01:18:19.090
We're going to see what happens, Sidney Powell.
01:18:19.091 --> 01:18:21.079
Let's see what some of the comments are here, because this is,
01:18:21.189 --> 01:18:25.479
Is literally a first time I'm seeing this probably the same time.
01:18:25.480 --> 01:18:26.920
Many of you are Joe,
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:29.170
Who I think is another attorney what's up.
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:32.109
Joe says, yes, it's confirmed Trump authorized the transition.
01:18:32.110 --> 01:18:33.069
He tweeted it.
01:18:33.250 --> 01:18:34.720
There was a letter from the GSA.
01:18:35.020 --> 01:18:43.989
GSA is just American talk, radio, red meat, nothing substantial happened as a result of the delay that comes from Ron Jarrah, AF FX,
01:18:45.130 --> 01:18:46.270
Paul fund says
01:18:46.510 --> 01:18:49.810
Not like Trump to give, to give an inch game over.
01:18:49.899 --> 01:18:51.220
Yeah, yeah.
01:18:51.250 --> 01:18:52.840
That is a little bit, I would agree with that.
01:18:52.841 --> 01:18:53.109
Right.
01:18:54.279 --> 01:18:56.369
Um, I, I don't see
01:18:56.560 --> 01:18:58.569
Trump giving inches.
01:18:59.109 --> 01:19:00.880
I think, I think honestly,
01:19:02.409 --> 01:19:05.409
A few more of these things, Beth Roberts says for me, this isn't about Trump.
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:09.939
I'm not a Biden fan at all, though, if I'm honest, but if the Dems can get away with fraud, like this will only get worse over time.
01:19:09.940 --> 01:19:13.000
Biden is illegitimate in my mind that comes from Beth Roberts and Beth.
01:19:13.029 --> 01:19:14.859
I think a lot of people have that same concern.
01:19:14.860 --> 01:19:18.729
There are a lot of, a lot of people who are, and I'm one of them actually.
01:19:18.730 --> 01:19:20.260
And you know, w when was the last time we did it
01:19:20.470 --> 01:19:24.100
Overall, all of our election systems, not,
01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:25.210
Not as long as I've been alive.
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:29.500
I mean, there's been incremental, I think, improvements with the different systems.
01:19:29.501 --> 01:19:33.189
And I know a lot of this stuff is being dealt with at the secretary of state level and all
01:19:33.189 --> 01:19:35.409
Of that, but could we do
01:19:35.409 --> 01:19:36.159
A little bit better?
01:19:36.189 --> 01:19:37.750
Why does it take five days?
01:19:37.751 --> 01:19:41.140
Sometimes six days, sometimes 12 days to get election results in, in different States.
01:19:41.500 --> 01:19:42.609
It is 2020.
01:19:43.390 --> 01:19:45.579
Shouldn't we be able to do this a little bit better.
01:19:45.581 --> 01:19:49.149
I would imagine that we can, and that's kind of why I was open to having this fight.
01:19:49.150 --> 01:19:51.220
You know, let's, let's see what we can
01:19:51.220 --> 01:19:51.819
Root out.
01:19:52.810 --> 01:19:53.409
Good stuff
01:19:53.409 --> 01:19:56.619
Comes from people trying to Duke it out.
01:19:56.621 --> 01:19:59.920
Almost iron sharpens iron as it were.
01:20:01.060 --> 01:20:01.270
All right.
01:20:01.420 --> 01:20:01.539
Let's take
01:20:01.630 --> 01:20:03.699
Some other comments here.
01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:05.350
It was in the house.
01:20:06.130 --> 01:20:08.369
If they prove fraud, everyone will agree.
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--> 01:20:08.909
Yeah.
01:20:09.090 --> 01:20:12.930
James, James Connor says many people who complain about the elections.
01:20:12.930 --> 01:20:14.729
Now didn't in Trump 2016.
01:20:14.730 --> 01:20:14.819
Yeah.
01:20:14.820 --> 01:20:16.170
I saw that over this weekend.
01:20:16.319 --> 01:20:17.159
I don't know if you follow him.
01:20:17.161 --> 01:20:18.149
He's actually hilarious.
01:20:18.150 --> 01:20:19.649
His name is Jack[inaudible].
01:20:19.770 --> 01:20:21.600
Jack was Sobek he's on Twitter.
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.630
He had this like mega tweet thread storm.
01:20:24.840 --> 01:20:38.550
I think it was on Saturday night where he was going through and he was re-tweeting and reposting all of the old complaints back from 2016, 2018 from all of the left wing media saying that we need to do audits.
01:20:38.551 --> 01:20:40.470
We needed to check on the, on the voting systems.
01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:44.430
There was a lot we need to do in order to verify that our elections are working well.
01:20:44.609 --> 01:20:47.579
And now suddenly they're all quiet because they're guy one.
01:20:48.029 --> 01:20:48.630
Isn't that funny?
01:20:49.020 --> 01:20:52.710
We have Dan Hill who says, uh, let's see, Dan Hill.
01:20:52.710 --> 01:20:54.779
Rob, do you know anything about Phil clients?
01:20:55.229 --> 01:21:00.329
Honest DOD project suit against Zuckerberg using CTCL to pay democratic voting and democratic judges?
01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:01.979
No, I don't know about that lawsuit.
01:21:02.670 --> 01:21:03.569
Uh, that's interesting though.
01:21:03.570 --> 01:21:16.079
I know Zuckerberg and a lot of other people were throwing a lot of money into this election and it would not surprise me if it went to certain candidates for certain priorities, CNN admitted, smart MADEC can cannot be trusted.
01:21:17.010 --> 01:21:20.729
There's a video from Borg clone on YouTube that comes from Mars.
01:21:20.730 --> 01:21:21.300
Jupiter.
01:21:21.569 --> 01:21:25.829
We have Kenneth Slayer says, doesn't it sound like he is starting transition to stop attacks on that woman's family.
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:34.710
I think it does sound like that, but I think it's probably more likely because Trump, Trump today was kind of the end of the road if Michigan certified it.
01:21:34.711 --> 01:21:47.069
And I think, I think he understands that if Michigan certified the election and all of the other States are going to certify the elections, then it's going to be very unlikely for him to be able to unwind that or unring that bell, they certified it.
01:21:47.699 --> 01:21:52.319
I don't know how he's going to go to the legislature and then ask the legislature to overturn the certifications.
01:21:52.320 --> 01:21:57.630
I just don't see how that's possible because their own state is certifying that their votes are good.
01:21:57.930 --> 01:21:58.859
We checked it's good.
01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:03.689
And so for the legislature to come through and say, yeah, well we know the votes are good, but we're going to throw out, we're going to throw out our results.
01:22:03.690 --> 01:22:07.409
Anyways, I think would doom them for the rest of their lives.
01:22:07.411 --> 01:22:08.909
I don't think they'd ever run for office again.
01:22:09.090 --> 01:22:14.039
And so how are you going to get a bunch of Republican legislators to go ahead with that plan?
01:22:14.189 --> 01:22:15.539
I don't think that they can.
01:22:15.720 --> 01:22:32.279
And so what Donald Trump wanted to do, and this may, this may, may be a perfect way to tie this back, all in to what I was talking about with Sidney Powell, that she was there to cause some of this discourse to, so some of this doubt in the election and she did that and it's no it's, it didn't work.
01:22:32.460 --> 01:22:34.170
And so she's no longer with the team.
01:22:34.171 --> 01:22:35.970
So they're going to continue to file their claims.
01:22:36.270 --> 01:22:50.880
But if Trump is starting the transition and Michigan certified their results after he had already met with some of the legislatures legislators over there, I, you know, it's hard to read that statement from the president himself as anything other than an acknowledgement.
01:22:50.881 --> 01:22:53.789
I don't think that we're ever going to get a concession from Trump ever.
01:22:53.791 --> 01:22:58.710
I don't think he's going to come out one day and just say, I can seed good game, nice wind Joe Biden.
01:22:58.739 --> 01:22:59.310
You're right.
01:22:59.310 --> 01:23:01.619
I lost the election clear as day.
01:23:01.890 --> 01:23:03.210
I don't think we're ever going to see that.
01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:06.819
I'm not sure that that happened, but I don't think Donald Trump has ever going to say that regardless.
01:23:06.850 --> 01:23:11.680
Even if, uh, even if, uh, at the end of the day, it's all said and done, and it's clear that he lost.
01:23:12.100 --> 01:23:12.430
I think
01:23:12.779 --> 01:23:23.100
I'm going to just, uh, sort of, sort of, um, wind this down, you know, become less vocal over time, but without making a concession, I'm not sure McCain
01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:25.260
Says, Rob, when is it?
01:23:25.261 --> 01:23:26.310
Time to acknowledge?
01:23:26.340 --> 01:23:28.260
So, so this one looks spicy.
01:23:28.261 --> 01:23:29.729
Let's see if we can get it at just
01:23:30.510 --> 01:23:30.510
Right.
01:23:30.989 --> 01:23:33.539
Uh, the messages go fast.
01:23:35.460 --> 01:23:35.909
Dang it.
01:23:37.590 --> 01:23:39.000
What happened to that message?
01:23:39.029 --> 01:23:39.479
There it is.
01:23:40.140 --> 01:23:41.010
Uh, all right.
01:23:41.850 --> 01:23:41.850
Mic
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:49.109
McCain's revenge says, Rob, when is it time to acknowledge that Hunter Biden's laptop Tucker's drive, Sydney's cracking Rudy's cases.
01:23:49.110 --> 01:23:52.350
Trump's claims of election fraud are all 100% nothing burgers.
01:23:53.069 --> 01:23:56.430
Well, I guess we'll all, we'll
all see, right?
01:23:56.460 --> 01:23:56.789
We'll all.
01:23:56.791 --> 01:23:58.350
See when it's, when,
01:23:58.649 --> 01:24:02.970
When the timelines expire, my position on that has been let's just use their timelines.
01:24:02.970 --> 01:24:06.270
So Sydney Sydney's cases, she said that lawsuits are going to be filed this week.
01:24:06.300 --> 01:24:09.449
Rudy, his kind of already been addressed.
01:24:09.630 --> 01:24:11.430
Tucker's flashdrive I don't know what that's about.
01:24:11.789 --> 01:24:14.460
Hunter's laptop, I think did have some problems on it.
01:24:14.489 --> 01:24:15.930
And we covered a lot of that here.
01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:17.970
Trump's claims of election fraud.
01:24:18.750 --> 01:24:19.770
Um, those are still percolating.
01:24:19.770 --> 01:24:22.380
I mean, just because he loses in court doesn't mean that there wasn't any
01:24:22.380 --> 01:24:23.130
Election fraud.
01:24:23.369 --> 01:24:23.789
I don't know.
01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:25.170
Uh, but I guess
01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:28.500
That was my attempt to McCain's revenge to acknowledge some
01:24:28.500 --> 01:24:30.659
Of those things there, try to do that.
01:24:30.659 --> 01:24:32.069
Student does calculus is in the house.
01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:34.890
It feels as if the media is more happy about the election than America.
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:37.199
Even in 2016, you could feel the energy of Trump's victory.
01:24:37.201 --> 01:24:37.770
But now it's great.
01:24:37.770 --> 01:24:38.189
Awesome show.
01:24:38.190 --> 01:24:41.010
Thank you, student does calculus Antonio.
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:42.630
He says, Robert, have you heard
01:24:42.750 --> 01:24:44.010
Of Eric?
01:24:44.579 --> 01:24:47.819
Coomer the Trump hating and T for loving product.
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:50.760
The director of product security for dominion says Trump won't win.
01:24:50.761 --> 01:24:52.050
I made effing sure of that.
01:24:52.500 --> 01:24:54.960
I have heard of that, but I haven't verified that.
01:24:54.961 --> 01:24:57.899
And I don't know that that is anything that is consequential.
01:24:58.109 --> 01:25:01.409
And a lot of people say stuff like that, but can they do anything about it?
01:25:01.411 --> 01:25:06.930
If he, if he would've said something like, I'll make sure about it because I rigged the entire voting system.
01:25:07.109 --> 01:25:08.220
That's a different ballgame.
01:25:08.550 --> 01:25:15.329
You know, a lot of people just say stuff and unless there's more, I am a I'm a little bit skeptical of that stuff.
01:25:15.630 --> 01:25:18.000
Rob, did you see the interview of the dominion representative?
01:25:18.001 --> 01:25:18.569
What do you think?
01:25:18.570 --> 01:25:20.100
Yeah, I did not see the interview.
01:25:20.100 --> 01:25:21.029
I just saw the headlines.
01:25:21.689 --> 01:25:27.449
Elliott says shouldn't we be concerned that the mainstream media and social media companies can be so biased and contribute to the results of the election.
01:25:27.451 --> 01:25:28.890
That is my biggest concern going forward.
01:25:29.100 --> 01:25:30.840
And I completely agree with that one.
01:25:30.841 --> 01:25:35.279
I mean the main look, if there's any election interference, how is
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:37.529
It not the big social
01:25:37.529 --> 01:25:38.220
Media companies?
01:25:38.220 --> 01:25:39.569
Twitter has been interfering with this
01:25:39.630 --> 01:25:42.479
Election, the entirety of the election.
01:25:42.480 --> 01:25:44.460
I mean, they were, they were marking Trump's tweets.
01:25:44.670 --> 01:25:47.100
They were reducing delivery on retweets.
01:25:47.579 --> 01:25:50.550
Uh, I, I saw it many times before the election try to retweet something.
01:25:50.551 --> 01:25:51.060
This is fake.
01:25:51.060 --> 01:25:51.840
You can't retweet it.
01:25:52.050 --> 01:25:53.340
How is that not interference?
01:25:53.341 --> 01:26:02.399
Now they're saying that they're doing it to protect us, to protect us poor people from a dangerous language from, you know, fraudulent claims from scary words that are out there on Twitter.
01:26:02.400 --> 01:26:08.840
They're trying to protect all of us and they can't let dangerous words go out there on Twitter because we're too stupid to think for ourselves.
01:26:08.930 --> 01:26:11.060
We have to just follow whatever Twitter tells us.
01:26:11.060 --> 01:26:18.710
And if, if the president tweets something that may have some, you know, questionable information in there, we need to rely on Twitter and Facebook to correct that for us.
01:26:18.829 --> 01:26:25.250
Cause we're too stupid to analyze things ourselves or to go look up a different website on a different news article and read the news for ourselves.
01:26:25.250 --> 01:26:26.569
We have to follow what they say.
01:26:27.170 --> 01:26:31.609
That is times, times millions of people every, every, every day.
01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:52.340
And when Trump first got elected, one of my first thoughts was, man, this guy is going to have to have a skin of steel because he's going to have to constantly every day for the next four years, not only fight the Democrats in Congress, not only fight people in his own administration who are literally trying to undermine him, he's got to fight the Obama administration and the impeachment inquiries and all of this stuff.
01:26:52.369 --> 01:27:02.689
I mean, he's coming into a big ball of yarn, but in addition to that, he's also got to deal with the media who is lit every day, 24 hours a day.
01:27:02.690 --> 01:27:06.949
Just be rating this guy thinking, Oh my gosh, what a thankless job, no matter who you are.
01:27:07.250 --> 01:27:10.430
And Donald Trump has had it worse than any president that I've ever seen in my life.
01:27:10.460 --> 01:27:13.939
I mean, it's been very, very, uh, very, very brutal on him.
01:27:14.210 --> 01:27:17.000
And that necessarily is going to change minds.
01:27:17.001 --> 01:27:22.850
That's necessarily going to
influence people because if they see every day that Trump's a racist, Trump's a racist, Trump's a racist.
01:27:23.449 --> 01:27:24.470
They're going to vote that way.
01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:26.960
And I've had this conversation with many people in my life.
01:27:27.109 --> 01:27:32.659
Many people are saying I'm so happy Biden one, and you go, are you what policy of Joe Biden's?
01:27:32.661 --> 01:27:33.649
Are you happy about?
01:27:33.859 --> 01:27:35.210
Well, things are going to be normal again.
01:27:35.300 --> 01:27:36.050
And what do you mean by that?
01:27:36.380 --> 01:27:39.380
Well, you know, we're going to be accepted back into the world.
01:27:39.470 --> 01:27:40.279
Well, what does that mean?
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:41.390
Well, I don't know.
01:27:41.420 --> 01:27:42.500
You know, the world hates us.
01:27:42.560 --> 01:27:43.220
Why do they hate us?
01:27:43.789 --> 01:27:46.220
Well, because Trump, uh, did a bunch of bad stuff.
01:27:46.250 --> 01:27:46.880
Well, what did he do?
01:27:47.149 --> 01:27:47.779
They have no idea.
01:27:47.780 --> 01:27:49.550
They can't tell you Trump's a racist.
01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:50.300
Well, why is he racist?
01:27:50.539 --> 01:27:51.079
What did he do?
01:27:51.081 --> 01:27:51.920
That's so racist to you.
01:27:52.250 --> 01:27:57.319
Well, he kept kids in cages and he said, okay, well, do you know who started that policy or where that came from?
01:27:58.340 --> 01:28:06.140
We'll know, but, but you know, and, and it's just this constant just droning on about why he such a horrible person, but nobody can actually articulate it now.
01:28:06.170 --> 01:28:06.710
Not everybody.
01:28:06.711 --> 01:28:17.479
There are a lot of people who have very good gripes and good claims, and there's a lot of stuff that Trump has done that I'm not a particular fan of, but I can think about it and I don't need Twitter to tell me about it.
01:28:17.480 --> 01:28:20.750
And I can go and find the information on my own and come to my own conclusions.
01:28:20.751 --> 01:28:24.829
I don't need social media to come out there and dictate how I should be thinking about things.
01:28:24.949 --> 01:28:25.760
But they did that.
01:28:25.909 --> 01:28:26.689
Facebook did it.
01:28:26.909 --> 01:28:35.600
They, they were modifying that the whole organization of, of a big tech just sort of aligned in order to remove him from office.
01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:38.479
And I don't know how you win against a machine like that.
01:28:38.659 --> 01:28:38.930
All right.
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:41.449
Momo paintball says best channel on YouTube.
01:28:41.479 --> 01:28:42.020
Thanks, Momo.
01:28:42.289 --> 01:28:44.090
We have Zora says, Trump never thought he'd win.
01:28:44.091 --> 01:28:45.260
So he wasn't prepared for it.
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:47.659
It's likely why he hired all the wrong people.
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:51.890
Cal guy says he separated kids from their parents.
01:28:52.130 --> 01:28:53.630
Only his administration did that.
01:28:53.810 --> 01:28:54.079
All right.
01:28:54.380 --> 01:28:58.039
We have Aaron CV who says, great job, Robin faith, keep it up.
01:28:58.041 --> 01:28:58.399
We will.
01:28:58.609 --> 01:28:59.510
Aaron, thank you so much.
01:28:59.750 --> 01:29:07.649
We have Zulu who says, Powell is not with the team because they need to take down some Republicans in order to win this, but can't be associated with it.
01:29:08.189 --> 01:29:08.609
Yeah.
01:29:08.610 --> 01:29:09.659
That's interesting.
01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:10.800
Interesting Zulu.
01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:11.310
Yeah.
01:29:11.340 --> 01:29:24.739
And that was one of my points is that the kill zone, the blast zone was a little bit too big and this may be something where they just, they, you know, this is going to be a big issue and those are going to be a lot of splash.
01:29:25.310 --> 01:29:28.939
It's like sitting in the first row at Sierra, you're going to get splashed.
01:29:28.940 --> 01:29:35.989
And if Sidney Powell was making these claims that this is going to implicate both Democrats and Republicans, that's a problem.
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:39.890
All right, Pat D says, Rob missed my, you missed my point.
01:29:40.130 --> 01:29:49.130
If it's proved that the election, the election officials didn't comply with the law, then do they have to prove that the votes were legit instead of Trump having to prove the votes were not.
01:29:50.149 --> 01:29:53.600
So, you know, I don't, I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head.
01:29:54.109 --> 01:29:54.979
Um, good question.
01:29:54.980 --> 01:29:56.060
So I understand what you're saying now.
01:29:56.060 --> 01:29:56.869
I understand your question.
01:29:56.871 --> 01:30:06.800
So you're saying so, so here here's, here's how I think the burden shifts now you have, so you have to present a case that gets you over the hurdle.
01:30:06.801 --> 01:30:10.310
So let me, let me speak about this sort of in criminal cases, fence law.
01:30:10.699 --> 01:30:20.779
Cause that's what I, that's what I really know if you are, let's say for example, you are charged with a crime, let's call it an assault crime and you're charged with hitting somebody in the face.
01:30:20.840 --> 01:30:21.229
Okay.
01:30:21.710 --> 01:30:23.000
You're charged with that crime.
01:30:23.029 --> 01:30:26.659
The burden is on the government to prove that you're guilty.
01:30:28.100 --> 01:30:34.340
When I go and I say, I am now, uh, I'm not guilty.
01:30:34.609 --> 01:30:38.390
I am, I, I did hit that person in the face.
01:30:38.420 --> 01:30:39.529
It's called an affirmative defense.
01:30:39.530 --> 01:30:42.890
I hit the person in the face, but I did it out of self-defense.
01:30:42.890 --> 01:30:44.239
I did it for another reason.
01:30:44.539 --> 01:30:45.829
Then it's back on the defense.
01:30:45.831 --> 01:30:52.970
The defense has that burden now to approve that part of the claim and then the burden shifts back over to the
government.
01:30:53.270 --> 01:30:57.079
So if I can go in and say, yeah, I punched him in the face, but I did it out of self-defense.
01:30:57.109 --> 01:30:57.350
Okay.
01:30:57.350 --> 01:31:05.359
Now it's my job to prove that I got to prove I got to come up with some level of evidence to say, aye, I've got a self-defense here's my evidence.
01:31:05.360 --> 01:31:06.289
It's a showing.
01:31:06.739 --> 01:31:09.979
And so you make that showing and then it goes back over to the government.
01:31:09.980 --> 01:31:20.359
And then the government has to say, okay, we now recognize your affirmative defense of self-defense, but now we've got more evidence to overcome that defense and, and then go in and implicate you.
01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:22.489
So I think it's probably going to be the same thing here.
01:31:22.579 --> 01:31:22.939
Right?
01:31:23.149 --> 01:31:39.409
And the initial hurdle for the Trump team is they've got to prove that they were, they were doing something in a way that was sort of maliciously interfering with the election or that it was intentionally a violation of the underlying election rules.
01:31:39.411 --> 01:31:52.640
They have to find something concrete like that, just because they found an observer or a, a watcher or a candidate or somebody who was a part of the team who didn't get to watch that or who was forcefully, thrown out.
01:31:54.050 --> 01:31:56.720
They need to make the showing that something bad happened.
01:31:57.020 --> 01:32:00.010
And then the government would respond to say no, that it didn't.
01:32:00.220 --> 01:32:11.890
And that first part in my mind hasn't been done yet because we haven't found anybody at a high enough level at a high enough threshold that would warrant the burden shifting back over to the government.
01:32:11.890 --> 01:32:15.039
So the first person in the courtroom, they got to bring the claim.
01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:19.239
They got to bring enough evidence in order to flip it back over to the government and Trump's team.
01:32:19.590 --> 01:32:22.390
They've gotten, you know, they've, they've, they've gotten a lot of evidence.
01:32:22.390 --> 01:32:24.220
They've gotten a lot of affidavits, hundreds of them.
01:32:24.460 --> 01:32:28.029
We haven't really seen, I would, I would call it like a home run court filing.
01:32:28.030 --> 01:32:29.500
We've had some good ideas in some of them.
01:32:29.501 --> 01:32:32.710
We read some of, uh, Rudy Giuliani's claims.
01:32:32.711 --> 01:32:36.789
We read through some of Lynn woods claims, interesting claims, good claims.
01:32:36.791 --> 01:32:42.010
But these are all from sort of lower level, you know, volunteers and canvassers and lower level elected officials.
01:32:42.220 --> 01:32:48.939
If we had a secretary of state who wrote a memorandum that said, yeah, we want you to throw out all the Trump ballots using this protocol.
01:32:48.940 --> 01:32:53.920
Don't sign this sign that use this Sharpie, use that pen, whatever that would be a different situation.
01:32:54.039 --> 01:33:05.890
But the Trump team team needs to show that and where the Trump team is having, I think an issue is that there, the harm doesn't match the remedy and it can't, this is where their problem is.
01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:11.560
If they could go into court Pat, and they said, all right, look, we have a hundred, a hundred problems here.
01:33:11.710 --> 01:33:18.579
This one precinct there's 75 ballots or hundred ballots or 200 or thousand ballots, whatever it is we want to invalidate those ballots.
01:33:18.850 --> 01:33:20.560
Then I think the court will go, yeah, you're right.
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:24.609
You've made your case here that this is that there was a problem here.
01:33:24.939 --> 01:33:27.069
And we're going to give you the remedy.
01:33:27.070 --> 01:33:29.829
We can give you a remedy for that particular cause.
01:33:29.831 --> 01:33:31.720
And so that cause of action can move forward.
01:33:32.020 --> 01:33:35.649
In Trump's case, they're saying, yeah, your honor, there was some problems with the election.
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:38.680
Therefore we want to throw out 707 million ballots.
01:33:39.189 --> 01:33:42.159
Well, the judge is now looking at that underlying claim and he's saying it doesn't match.
01:33:42.369 --> 01:33:55.420
So this claim doesn't meet that if they could show that this was unintentional, malicious, orchestrated attempt to invalidate the votes and the claim matches the remedy.
01:33:55.569 --> 01:34:02.920
Then I think at that point, the court would be more inclined to allow that claim to proceed further, but they haven't jumped over that first threshold threshold.
01:34:02.921 --> 01:34:07.270
And so I think the burden of proof still lays with them now, preponderance of the evidence standard.
01:34:07.270 --> 01:34:16.899
Again, even if it is the preponderance of the evidence standard, I don't know, Sidney Powell probably knows better than I do, but even if it is 51%, more likely than not, it's more likely than not that there was some election fraud.
01:34:16.900 --> 01:34:19.180
They still have to go in prove that case.
01:34:19.180 --> 01:34:25.569
And then they have to make the remedy match the claim, the remedy still can't be, we're going to throw out 7 million votes.
01:34:25.570 --> 01:34:26.710
So what is the remedy?
01:34:26.711 --> 01:34:34.810
And when the remedy falls underneath falls below the, the Delta, the differential, then the claim is essentially moot.
01:34:34.840 --> 01:34:36.579
It's not going to change the course of the election.
01:34:36.729 --> 01:34:45.130
So even if they did find the, you know, these big buckets of votes or they found a legal claim, or they were able to invalidate, you know, 50,000 votes, but that happened in Michigan.
01:34:45.131 --> 01:34:46.600
Well, Trump's down by 150,000.
01:34:46.869 --> 01:34:49.149
So 50,000 has nothing who cares.
01:34:49.449 --> 01:34:51.520
Uh, the judge is going to dismiss that
as, as being mood.
01:34:51.520 --> 01:34:55.210
It's not going to change the course of the election, which I think is actually what we're seeing.
01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:57.800
So it's a good question, Pat.
01:34:58.000 --> 01:34:58.279
And, and
01:34:58.670 --> 01:35:02.359
To, to, to be perfectly honest, I don't know the specifics
01:35:02.470 --> 01:35:04.779
Details of what the burden shifting looks like.
01:35:04.989 --> 01:35:07.510
And I don't know that there is much precedent for that.
01:35:07.689 --> 01:35:11.050
I think this is why people are actually saying this is going to go up to the Supreme court because
01:35:11.380 --> 01:35:13.539
A lot of these claims just haven't really been settled yet.
01:35:13.750 --> 01:35:22.479
What does a government, or what does a candidate need to show in court to invalidate an entire state's results?
01:35:23.529 --> 01:35:26.979
I don't know that that is a legal question that has ever been answered in this country.
01:35:27.340 --> 01:35:30.220
And that is, is bubbling up right now.
01:35:30.579 --> 01:35:32.260
And so if Sidney Powell was claims
01:35:32.409 --> 01:35:44.319
Good, if Victoria town sing from the Trump team, if their claims look good and that all, you know, all of that goes through the process is filed in district court, goes up through the circuit courts or they bypass them and go directly to the Supreme court.
01:35:44.320 --> 01:35:45.130
The Supreme court wants
01:35:45.220 --> 01:35:45.850
To get involved.
01:35:46.479 --> 01:35:51.880
They're going to answer those questions for us, but at this point in time, I'm not sure that that, that a claim of right,
01:35:51.880 --> 01:35:56.439
Not being able to observe is going to invalidate an entire state because the remedy doesn't match the harm.
01:35:56.680 --> 01:35:57.789
It's a good question though.
01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:01.569
And I think it, you know, I think a lot of people have that question.
01:36:02.619 --> 01:36:03.159
Thank you, Pat.
01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:03.520
All right.
01:36:03.909 --> 01:36:05.949
We have Clinton
01:36:06.279 --> 01:36:08.140
I'll says this was simulated before the election.
01:36:08.170 --> 01:36:11.109
The simulation is called transition integrity project.
01:36:11.949 --> 01:36:12.130
All right.
01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:23.500
McCain's revenge says these election antics are going to cost Republicans a lot more than the special election for two GA Senate seats in January, because once credibility is lost, the Americans constituents are too educated.
01:36:23.949 --> 01:36:25.659
So I totally disagree with that one.
01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:26.529
There McCain's revenge.
01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:27.460
I think that, uh,
01:36:28.300 --> 01:36:30.189
I, I think
01:36:30.189 --> 01:36:32.380
That there are going to be even more
01:36:32.380 --> 01:36:36.850
Or people who are in alignment with getting tired
01:36:37.149 --> 01:36:41.920
Of what we're seeing in terms of, I would say the mainstream narrative.
01:36:41.921 --> 01:36:48.130
I think a lot of people are sick and tired of being told that we can't talk about things sick and tired of being told
01:36:48.250 --> 01:36:48.550
All that.
01:36:49.390 --> 01:36:50.890
Just accept the results.
01:36:51.460 --> 01:36:51.840
If you ask
01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:53.680
The question, you're a racist.
01:36:53.710 --> 01:36:56.920
If you want to read a criminal complaint, you're a racist.
01:36:56.921 --> 01:36:58.390
You can't even talk about this stuff.
01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.520
You're a Republican conspiracy person.
01:37:00.729 --> 01:37:07.020
The American constituents are too educated, which was, which must mean that we're all uneducated and you know, nobody's buying it.
01:37:07.020 --> 01:37:08.020
It's very insulting.
01:37:08.229 --> 01:37:12.760
There are a lot of people on the other side of this election who are not Joe Biden fans.
01:37:13.390 --> 01:37:17.890
And I would say probably most of the country is not particularly a Joe Biden fan.
01:37:17.949 --> 01:37:18.970
I would think that most
01:37:18.970 --> 01:37:21.189
Of Joe Biden's, uh,
01:37:21.220 --> 01:37:26.319
Demographics, most of his base are in it because they don't like Donald Trump.
01:37:26.500 --> 01:37:28.449
Not because it has anything to do with Joe Biden.
01:37:28.630 --> 01:37:30.010
We saw that around the country.
01:37:30.011 --> 01:37:35.350
There, I think nine Republican house seats that were lost by the Democrats lost to the Republicans.
01:37:35.529 --> 01:37:38.020
When this should have been something where they actually gained seats.
01:37:38.199 --> 01:37:40.510
The Senate is still currently in Republican control.
01:37:40.750 --> 01:37:42.399
I mean, this wasn't a blue wave.
01:37:42.400 --> 01:37:51.819
There's not this big unifying event behind Joe Biden, which is why I think a lot of the people in the media are really freaked out about all of these Republicans and all of this conversation from taking place.
01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:54.520
If they weren't so scared, then why are they trying to shut everybody up?
01:37:54.550 --> 01:38:06.420
Why is it all that we're all idiots and racists and conspiracy theorist and, uh, you know, more derogatory language than that just from having these conversations because people, people can kind of sense that something's a little bit off on this one.
01:38:06.659 --> 01:38:15.199
And it feels, it feels more like this was an anti-Trump election ever than it was anything, a pro Biden or a pro liberal or
01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:16.159
Zero left.
01:38:16.819 --> 01:38:18.710
Cause they lost by every other metric.
01:38:19.130 --> 01:38:19.800
And it was
01:38:20.029 --> 01:38:22.130
Even closer than many of them were speculating.
01:38:22.131 --> 01:38:30.439
So this, this idea that there's going to be this massive wave that goes more towards the left and liberals I think is, is a, a Mirage.
01:38:30.470 --> 01:38:32.180
Quite frankly, I think it's going to go
the other way.
01:38:32.180 --> 01:38:35.930
I think a lot of people are really discontent and they're disappointed in Republicans.
01:38:35.930 --> 01:38:38.420
I think the Republican party by, you know, is
01:38:38.659 --> 01:38:43.609
Probably in some hurt over on McCain.
01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:45.079
Cain's revenge his point.
01:38:45.081 --> 01:38:48.350
I think that there are a lot of Republicans that are in, in a,
01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:52.100
In troubled waters, let's say, but yeah,
01:38:52.130 --> 01:38:59.239
That is largely because I think that Donald Trump is going to become something bigger than even a presidency would have been.
01:38:59.240 --> 01:39:01.369
People are going to look at this whole situation.
01:39:01.371 --> 01:39:04.279
Like he was a martyr in many, in many respects.
01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:04.819
All right.
01:39:05.029 --> 01:39:08.960
Hugh McDonald, because people are making, making those fraud claims are trying to claim the Easter bunny is real.
01:39:08.961 --> 01:39:11.930
There's no evidence whatsoever to suggest that anything is off about this election.
01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:12.140
All right.
01:39:12.140 --> 01:39:16.670
Well, I mean, whew, we've been talking about it on this channel for like two weeks.
01:39:16.729 --> 01:39:18.140
So I think there's some evidence.
01:39:18.170 --> 01:39:21.949
So to say that there's no evidence, I think is a little bit too one-sided
01:39:22.909 --> 01:39:23.810
Dig Marr says
01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:31.310
It is humiliation and inhumane to be barred as an official poll watcher or being downgraded as a vote watcher, not being allowed to challenge a vote.
01:39:31.909 --> 01:39:36.829
We have Jorgen Johnson who says maybe the plan the whole time was used Powell as a scapegoat.
01:39:37.970 --> 01:39:38.899
The Trump team
01:39:38.930 --> 01:39:43.819
Knew that they would need to be distanced from the situation once they started going after Republicans.
01:39:43.820 --> 01:39:48.020
Yeah, I think that's a, I made that point at the beginning of the show, Jorgen Zulu made that point.
01:39:48.050 --> 01:39:49.880
A number of people have made that point, but I think it's a good one.
01:39:50.779 --> 01:39:50.960
All right.
01:39:50.961 --> 01:39:57.289
We have Adam S few reasons the world doesn't like Trump withdraw from the following world court, Paris accord, who?
01:39:57.291 --> 01:40:00.319
NATO Iran deal stealing serious oil.
01:40:01.010 --> 01:40:01.939
Let's see what else?
01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:04.909
Souring souring relationship
01:40:04.909 --> 01:40:05.479
With allies.
01:40:05.539 --> 01:40:06.680
Multiple trade Wars.
01:40:07.340 --> 01:40:11.659
I mean, I'm, I'm pretty good with a lot of that stuff.
01:40:12.409 --> 01:40:13.699
I don't know what we need to be a part of.
01:40:13.701 --> 01:40:15.350
Most of that for, I don't know.
01:40:15.439 --> 01:40:17.300
I'm a local government type of guy.
01:40:17.329 --> 01:40:23.420
I don't think that big world entities, big government entities, these international coalitions.
01:40:23.421 --> 01:40:24.319
I don't, I don't know what those are.
01:40:24.529 --> 01:40:29.390
Do four for most Americans sound good, but are they?
01:40:30.109 --> 01:40:32.750
Why do we think it's just good to be a part of these big global orders?
01:40:32.930 --> 01:40:33.409
I don't know.
01:40:34.189 --> 01:40:34.189
Alright.
01:40:34.399 --> 01:40:36.590
Banana, Amanda says LOL, isn't it.
01:40:36.591 --> 01:40:37.130
The longest
01:40:37.279 --> 01:40:40.550
Ever vote count in the history of the U S in 2020, that's suspicious.
01:40:41.300 --> 01:40:43.399
We have Sarah Brown who says I'm with her Rob.
01:40:43.579 --> 01:40:44.210
We got Zorro.
01:40:44.211 --> 01:40:46.250
Best thing Trump did was reject the climate hoax.
01:40:46.909 --> 01:40:48.170
Uh, McCain's revenge against us.
01:40:48.171 --> 01:40:51.260
Yes, it was an anti-Trump election, but we were talking about a state that just flipped blue.
01:40:51.470 --> 01:40:54.279
Those seats will flip the Senate complete.
01:40:56.289 --> 01:40:56.680
All right.
01:40:57.130 --> 01:40:59.500
Uh, super plateau.
01:40:59.529 --> 01:41:00.250
No, man.
01:41:00.630 --> 01:41:04.859
It says you have been arguing this crap for the last two weeks and Trump is not even close to winning anything.
01:41:05.100 --> 01:41:06.449
That's it it's over.
01:41:06.840 --> 01:41:08.430
So that's true.
01:41:08.430 --> 01:41:13.020
We've been talking about this for, for some time on this channel and I acknowledge that, right?
01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:15.810
A part of what we do here is examined some of the claims.
01:41:15.810 --> 01:41:19.380
Now I have done it largely to be helpful just because I talk about a claim.
01:41:19.381 --> 01:41:24.300
Doesn't mean I endorse the claim or I believe in a claim, but many people do and it's making the waves around the internet.
01:41:24.301 --> 01:41:29.100
So we like to dissect those claims, analyze them, look at them, open them up, peer inside and see how it all works.
01:41:29.100 --> 01:41:31.289
Put it back together and then have a conversation about it.
01:41:31.439 --> 01:41:35.430
The reason I talk about it is because everyone tells me I can't talk about it because I'm an idiot.
01:41:35.579 --> 01:41:37.409
I'm a conspiracy theorist, or I'm a racist.
01:41:37.590 --> 01:41:47.430
If we talk about some of these claims, I think that more people should be talking about these things because it is a good way to alleviate people of their preconceived
01:41:47.430 --> 01:41:48.000
Notions.
01:41:48.930 --> 01:41:49.470
If you just
01:41:49.470 --> 01:41:53.460
Tell them, you can't talk about this and they need to sit down and shut up.
01:41:53.609 --> 01:41:56.579
Those people are still gonna think that way they were originally thinking.
01:41:56.581 --> 01:42:01.350
And now, in addition to that, they're going to be resentful at you for telling them that they can't talk about it.
01:42:01.590
--> 01:42:10.770
And so by us talking about it on this channel, we are giving a little bit of a pressure relief valve we're allowed to talk about and explore these ideas as we should.
01:42:10.979 --> 01:42:11.909
This is America.
01:42:11.911 --> 01:42:15.930
We have the first amendment, which is freedom of speech, which is the first amendment for a reason.
01:42:16.170 --> 01:42:22.920
It's to talk about these issues, anybody in the audience who just says, you can read one headline and just say, that's it.
01:42:22.949 --> 01:42:24.250
I guess I'll just take that at,
01:42:24.630 --> 01:42:26.130
At face value.
01:42:26.699 --> 01:42:27.560
Biden's the president.
01:42:27.630 --> 01:42:28.140
Yes, that's it.
01:42:28.140 --> 01:42:29.250
That's all I need to think about.
01:42:29.460 --> 01:42:30.239
Have a good night.
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:31.590
Okay.
01:42:31.619 --> 01:42:32.460
You can live that way.
01:42:32.461 --> 01:42:33.449
I don't live that way.
01:42:33.510 --> 01:42:36.659
I don't, I don't think that that's particularly a healthy way to live.
01:42:36.661 --> 01:42:41.579
I mean, I think people should be thinking and using their brains and asking questions and having conversations and talking about stuff.
01:42:42.270 --> 01:42:44.399
But I understand that other people don't want to do that.
01:42:44.640 --> 01:42:49.500
We have Timmy, Carl who says, have you watched[inaudible] video today reviewing the audio of Rudy Giuliani case.
01:42:49.501 --> 01:42:52.439
Rudy did a poor, did poorly presenting a case to the judge.
01:42:52.770 --> 01:42:54.149
I did not watch that video.
01:42:54.960 --> 01:42:56.640
Uh, but somebody else has mentioned Rokita law.
01:42:56.670 --> 01:42:57.869
So I'm going to have to take a look at that.
01:42:58.890 --> 01:43:05.880
Hugh McDonald, no one is calling people racist for making fraud claims, but trying to Gaslight people into believing Santa Claus is beyond the pale for reasonable people.
01:43:07.020 --> 01:43:07.979
We have Zulu.
01:43:08.850 --> 01:43:08.850
Uh,
01:43:09.300 --> 01:43:11.640
I was talking to somebody else, James Conner read.
01:43:11.670 --> 01:43:22.529
The reason why it took so long to count votes was because the GOP legislature, in many States of the night, the ability for a pre canvass of the mail-in ballots could only start counting on the day of we have Paul fun.
01:43:22.619 --> 01:43:27.510
It's okay to talk about the spread of misinformation without misinforming
01:43:28.649 --> 01:43:29.250
Some say
01:43:29.250 --> 01:43:31.920
Federal circuit courts can't overhaul the certification.
01:43:31.921 --> 01:43:33.119
Is that true?
01:43:33.449 --> 01:43:40.859
I think that, I think that only the state legislature can actually impact the final certification because they're the ones who write the rules on the certification.
01:43:41.069 --> 01:43:48.420
Now the federal court come out and make a ruling that something is unconstitutional or, or, or, or something to that effect.
01:43:48.421 --> 01:43:52.939
You know, they could, they could say that the statutory construction did something wrong.
01:43:52.940 --> 01:43:55.189
And then that would obviously go all the way up to the Supreme court.
01:43:55.399 --> 01:43:58.340
Aaron CV says, if the roles were reversed, we would still be talking about that.
01:43:58.341 --> 01:43:58.909
Yeah, exactly.
01:43:58.911 --> 01:43:59.119
Right.
01:43:59.121 --> 01:44:01.609
I mean, I, I look on this channel.
01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:05.779
If you're not a regular here, let me just let me lay out the framework on this thing.
01:44:05.930 --> 01:44:07.340
I like freedom.
01:44:07.909 --> 01:44:12.229
Most freedom is the number one priority for me.
01:44:12.420 --> 01:44:14.090
It's why I do what I do in law.
01:44:14.119 --> 01:44:15.560
I want more people to have more freedom.
01:44:15.739 --> 01:44:17.689
I want to help people not spend their lives in prison.
01:44:17.690 --> 01:44:22.250
I want to help them get better and get well and get back to their families, get back to their jobs, get back to their lives.
01:44:22.850 --> 01:44:24.109
That's what my passion is.
01:44:24.350 --> 01:44:27.710
And so that's sort of the operating framework for this channel.
01:44:27.890 --> 01:44:33.050
That justice is another pretty important thing that we need to be talking about here.
01:44:33.289 --> 01:44:40.970
But in addition to those two underlying values, I am going to take and cover the stories on this channel that are provocative.
01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:44.239
That's the point we're sort of pushing the boundaries on things.
01:44:44.539 --> 01:44:45.420
What we can talk about.
01:44:45.529 --> 01:44:47.359
We like provocative stories.
01:44:47.569 --> 01:44:49.670
We like stories where there's more energy.
01:44:49.850 --> 01:44:52.279
We like to take the contrarian position.
01:44:52.699 --> 01:44:52.699
Okay.
01:44:52.701 --> 01:44:57.590
I became a defense lawyer because I like to fight hard cases.
01:44:57.800 --> 01:45:04.609
I like to take the unpopular position, the side of the argument that everybody hates, that everybody thinks is wrong.
01:45:05.060 --> 01:45:10.850
Uh, you know, when I, when I first became a criminal defense lawyer, even my own mother was like, how can you represent those people?
01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:12.739
Well, that's what we like.
01:45:12.740 --> 01:45:14.359
I like to be the underdog.
01:45:14.390 --> 01:45:17.539
I like to be David versus Goliath.
01:45:17.720 --> 01:45:25.350
And so I will always take those arguments if it's Donald Trump in that position, if it's Joe Biden in that position, if it's somebody else, I got skewered on this channel.
01:45:25.529 --> 01:45:30.409
Like I said, when it was about a third or a 20th of the side, when we were talking about the Jacob Blake case.
01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:30.979
Right.
01:45:30.980 --> 01:45:35.600
And I said, they shouldn't have shot that guy in the back blood bath on this channel.
01:45:35.630 --> 01:45:39.739
Downvotes for the end of the earth for a week because I just kept talking about it.
01:45:39.979 --> 01:45:40.819
But that's okay.
01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:42.140
I'm going to continue to do that.
01:45:42.140 --> 01:45:47.569
We want to talk about hard conversations and if it's provocative, it's fine.
01:45:47.569 --> 01:45:49.699
If it's conspiratorial, it's fine.
01:45:49.729 --> 01:45:54.649
We're going to talk about it because it's more important to talk about things than to not talk about them.
01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:58.069
And that's what I'm going to make the commitment to on this channel.
01:45:58.100 --> 01:45:58.460
All right.
01:45:58.670 --> 01:46:00.859
We have Adam Matthew who says big following in London.
01:46:00.860 --> 01:46:01.279
Great show.
01:46:01.280 --> 01:46:01.970
Great attorney.
01:46:01.970 --> 01:46:02.840
Thank you so much.
01:46:03.079 --> 01:46:04.159
Another one from Adam.
01:46:04.819 --> 01:46:06.800
We have one from Rachel S who says no question.
01:46:06.979 --> 01:46:10.100
Just thank you for presenting the facts in an unbiased, pragmatic way.
01:46:10.369 --> 01:46:11.659
Breath of fresh air.
01:46:11.661 --> 01:46:12.439
Thanks Rachel.
01:46:12.440 --> 01:46:13.670
S I appreciate that.
01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:15.199
Uh, let's see.
01:46:15.859 --> 01:46:17.810
Hugh McDonald naturally, those are good cases to take.
01:46:17.810 --> 01:46:26.689
As long as you get paid, we have the best, uh, M says the best way to deal with bad ideas is to shine a spotlight on them.
01:46:27.079 --> 01:46:28.460
Not to censor them.
01:46:28.819 --> 01:46:30.109
What have the Dems got to hide?
01:46:30.110 --> 01:46:31.010
I agree with that.
01:46:31.729 --> 01:46:40.159
Zora says, Robert sounds like my first lawyer who defended me in Philly for possession of seeds on a few twigs of raw marijuana, the lab's own words.
01:46:42.979 --> 01:46:43.399
Yeah.
01:46:43.670 --> 01:46:47.239
They try to prosecute people on a stems and seeds.
01:46:47.390 --> 01:46:48.560
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
01:46:48.590 --> 01:46:49.649
Fortunately many,
01:46:50.010 --> 01:46:53.609
Much of the country is actually, uh, now legalizing marijuana.
01:46:54.720 --> 01:46:56.880
All right, man, while Manwell choices.
01:46:56.881 --> 01:47:00.300
But Rob, the way you talk about these issues is totally different.
01:47:00.539 --> 01:47:00.899
Husker.
01:47:00.900 --> 01:47:04.890
Mike says, what happens if widespread fraud is proven after Biden is in office?
01:47:04.920 --> 01:47:10.829
Well, I think he just stays in office, uh, because he's, he's lawfully elected at that point.
01:47:11.430 --> 01:47:16.560
Brooke B says, what the hell would Powell claim what she did without being able to back it up?
01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:17.159
Why the hell?
01:47:17.161 --> 01:47:17.430
Yeah.
01:47:17.729 --> 01:47:18.930
It's a good question.
01:47:20.850 --> 01:47:26.189
All right, Jamal, Jamal, uh, Bussa knot says you're based.
01:47:26.430 --> 01:47:28.079
Should I commit a crime so I can hire you?
01:47:28.081 --> 01:47:29.310
Don't do that, Jamal.
01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:31.350
Uh, just get a copy of my book.
01:47:31.380 --> 01:47:32.159
That's all you need.
01:47:32.250 --> 01:47:33.539
Just a little bit of love there.
01:47:33.720 --> 01:47:34.529
Beginning to winning.
01:47:34.530 --> 01:47:35.460
Check it out on Amazon.
01:47:35.461 --> 01:47:36.270
If you want to buy a copy.
01:47:36.479 --> 01:47:39.149
Angie Hoffman says there's a first amendment, right?
01:47:39.149 --> 01:47:44.369
To peaceably assemble apply generally do lock downs violated, or is it limited to petitioning the government?
01:47:44.371 --> 01:47:49.319
You know, that's a very good question there, Angie, and this one is up for debate currently speaking.
01:47:49.320 --> 01:47:53.399
So there is some, uh, I think there's a circuit split on some of this stuff.
01:47:53.400 --> 01:47:55.949
And Amy Coney Barrett actually weighed in on, on some of this.
01:47:56.189 --> 01:47:58.800
So we're going to see how far this rabbit hole goes.
01:47:58.801 --> 01:48:06.359
But we have seen that some of these lockdown orders have been upheld as a result of the government's limitless power.
01:48:06.360 --> 01:48:08.310
They can just do essentially whatever they want.
01:48:08.609 --> 01:48:23.130
And when you challenge it in court, for example, in Arizona, we had a big entity here who owns there's a, there's a fitness chain here called mountainside fitness that had got 12 locations, big box gym, tons of people, tons of employees, thousand employees all over Arizona.
01:48:23.369 --> 01:48:29.069
When Arizona locked down, he filed a lawsuit against them and said, you're violating equal protection.
01:48:29.100 --> 01:48:30.479
You're violating due process.
01:48:30.480 --> 01:48:32.640
You close our business without giving us any notice.
01:48:32.640 --> 01:48:36.989
You close our business without, uh, giving us an opportunity to comply with certain rules and things.
01:48:37.199 --> 01:48:38.670
That's, that's a due process violation.
01:48:38.850 --> 01:48:46.649
You are taking away a Liberty interest from us, the ability and the freedom to operate our business in the state of Arizona on our own.
01:48:46.739 --> 01:48:50.489
You're taking that away from us and you haven't done anything to prove anything.
01:48:50.640 --> 01:48:52.409
You haven't said that gyms are more dangerous.
01:48:52.411 --> 01:48:57.300
You haven't said that there's a higher likelihood of catching it here or that the equipment's dirtier than a hair salon.
01:48:57.329 --> 01:48:58.199
You haven't done any of that.
01:48:58.409 --> 01:49:01.560
So you're not only are you taking away our Liberty without due process.
01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:03.000
You haven't given us a court proceeding.
01:49:03.180 --> 01:49:05.340
You haven't given us a time to challenge any of this.
01:49:05.340 --> 01:49:06.750
You're just taking it away from us.
01:49:07.199 --> 01:49:09.539
That's one number two, it's equal protection violation.
01:49:09.541 --> 01:49:10.380
You're violating.
01:49:10.770 --> 01:49:13.020
You're taking away our rights, but not their rights.
01:49:13.170 --> 01:49:13.590
You're leaving.
01:49:13.591 --> 01:49:19.800
The golf course is open, but not my business equal protection under the law mandates that it's equal.
01:49:19.801 --> 01:49:21.029
You are being unequal.
01:49:21.030 --> 01:49:22.619
Therefore we're going to file a lawsuit against them.
01:49:22.920 --> 01:49:24.689
Well, I thought it was a pretty good claim.
01:49:25.109 --> 01:49:26.189
Guess what happened?
01:49:26.819 --> 01:49:27.899
Went over to the courts.
01:49:28.260 --> 01:49:29.670
Courts are also part of the government.
01:49:29.671 --> 01:49:31.800
The c ourt said, yeah, the governor has plenty of power government.
01:49:32.100 --> 01:49:37.109
T he governor has a basically limitless authority to just shut you down.
01:49:37.140 --> 01:49:38.460
And so they lost that lawsuit.
01:49:38.489 --> 01:49:40.079
And here we are.
01:49:40.229 --> 01:49:46.409
Now, some of this stuff is, I think, is going to continue to be litigated, but, u h, we'll see where it goes.
01:49:46.411 --> 01:49:48.069
It's a good question, Angie, in
01:49:48.069 --> 01:49:59.260
Other words, to answer your question, I don't think that you are going to be able to go and make a claim under the first amendment for freedom of association and get around any of the lockdown orders, Michelle.
01:49:59.261 --> 01:50:01.569
And brucella says, thank you for defending our freedom.
01:50:02.319 --> 01:50:09.489
We have Pat D says the remedy is not to throw out the votes directly it's to require the government to excuse me, to prove each vote is legit.
01:50:10.210 --> 01:50:17.380
The votes would become invalidated through the process though, the process of a proper audit in which the government must now prove votes are legit.
01:50:17.500 --> 01:50:26.560
All right, one more time from Pat D cause I kind of botched that the remedy is not to throw out votes directly it's to require government to prove each vote is legit.
01:50:26.590 --> 01:50:33.970
The votes would become invalidated though, the process of a proper audit in which the government must now prove votes are legit.
01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:34.300
Okay.
01:50:34.301 --> 01:50:42.159
So I see what you're yeah, I see what you're asking there, Pat it's I understand what you're saying.
01:50:42.161 --> 01:50:49.720
The government is going to say that they've already done that, that they've already counted the ballots and they've already made sure that they're valid.
01:50:50.020 --> 01:50:58.029
So you would need to show a, a, a big, there need to be a big claim to show that that was not being done.
01:50:58.510 --> 01:50:59.619
Several things need to happen.
01:51:00.010 --> 01:51:04.539
The claim needs to show that this was done intentionally maliciously, that somebody was in charge of it.
01:51:04.859 --> 01:51:17.140
It, it, this, this really mirrors the same memorandum that bill BARR put out for his prosecutors to investigate these claims one it's not, it's not, uh, inconsequential and two, it actually changes the course of the election.
01:51:17.140 --> 01:51:23.350
So something significant and something that has enough of a, of a problem, enough of an impact that would reverse the course of the election.
01:51:23.619 --> 01:51:29.170
And until Trump and his team do that until they say that two of those things are true.
01:51:29.171 --> 01:51:37.270
Not only that we see something happened that was bad, but it also changes the course of the election in a way that they have to match.
01:51:37.300 --> 01:51:38.500
They have to mirror each other.
01:51:38.829 --> 01:51:42.220
And I understand your point about, about some of the votes and things.
01:51:42.220 --> 01:51:47.229
I think that's where a lot of the original lawsuits were coming into play just to stop the certification process.
01:51:47.529 --> 01:51:53.289
And, um, and, and then, uh, those deadlines came and passed.
01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:55.329
All right.
01:51:55.331 --> 01:51:56.560
We have one from Freddy.
01:51:56.560 --> 01:51:59.560
The fake ballot says, can I legally ignore my wife?
01:51:59.619 --> 01:52:00.579
I think so.
01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:06.789
You know, I don't practice family law and, uh, these questions, these super chats.
01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:08.409
Can I illegally ignore my wife?
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:12.010
Um, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think there's any law against that.
01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:15.189
I think you can legally ignore her for, for sure.
01:52:15.520 --> 01:52:16.720
Just stick on this program.
01:52:16.899 --> 01:52:17.170
All right.
01:52:17.171 --> 01:52:18.500
We have Jamal Bussa on.
01:52:18.619 --> 01:52:20.739
He says, yo man, you look blazed AAF.
01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:22.449
You smoke in that sticky, icky.
01:52:25.029 --> 01:52:26.229
I can't believe I just read that.
01:52:26.470 --> 01:52:27.369
Thanks, Jamal.
01:52:27.609 --> 01:52:28.510
Uh, no, I'm not.
01:52:28.539 --> 01:52:28.810
Nope.
01:52:28.840 --> 01:52:30.729
Pretty, pretty straight narrow today.
01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:31.930
Just doing the program.
01:52:32.229 --> 01:52:34.300
You know, sometimes I think my face looks a little bit red.
01:52:34.301 --> 01:52:35.920
I got five lights on right now.
01:52:35.921 --> 01:52:41.770
This room gets really hot and uh, and uh, no, I'm good.
01:52:42.609 --> 01:52:43.060
Take a look.
01:52:44.020 --> 01:52:44.380
I'm good.
01:52:44.890 --> 01:52:45.979
All so we have,
01:52:47.300 --> 01:52:48.920
Let's take a couple more questions.
01:52:49.689 --> 01:52:50.770
Two more questions coming in.
01:52:50.770 --> 01:52:55.420
We have, what if Sydney exposes major multi-state votes swaps to the Supremes before inauguration?
01:52:55.689 --> 01:52:56.380
So Mike Meyer.
01:52:56.381 -->
01:52:56.500
Yeah.
01:52:56.501 --> 01:52:57.060
I mean, if something like
01:52:57.130 --> 01:53:01.630
That happened, I, um, I'm still laughing.
01:53:01.810 --> 01:53:04.239
Jamal's uh, Jamal's message.
01:53:04.930 --> 01:53:07.960
Uh, so, so look, if something like that happen, I saw this, this recent video.
01:53:07.961 --> 01:53:09.850
I think it was over on rumble from a guy named,
01:53:10.420 --> 01:53:12.880
Oh, I can't remember his name, but he, he was,
01:53:12.989 --> 01:53:17.140
Was doing this analysis where he was taking the votes and he was looking for patterns in different precincts.
01:53:17.289 --> 01:53:22.300
And he saw the same precinct where there would be a ratio that started at like 7:00 AM.
01:53:22.390 --> 01:53:24.399
And it would be, you know, 45 to one
01:53:24.399 --> 01:53:27.489
Biden to one Biden to Trump, 45 and one 45 to one.
01:53:27.490 --> 01:53:27.850
This race
01:53:28.420 --> 01:53:31.510
Would be visible at the early days of it
01:53:31.630 --> 01:53:32.979
Precinct or several precincts.
01:53:32.980 --> 01:53:39.399
Then that same pattern later in the evening, around three or four in the afternoons, that same pattern would show up.
01:53:39.400 --> 01:53:46.840
And so his argument was they were taking these votes from one precinct to another and dominion was just manipulating and swapping these votes all over the place.
01:53:47.140 --> 01:53:47.470
Yeah.
01:53:47.500 --> 01:53:49.119
Look, if something like that happened,
01:53:49.630 --> 01:53:52.600
That would be a, a crisis,
01:53:52.779 --> 01:53:54.520
A legal crisis in this country.
01:53:55.029 --> 01:53:55.449
If there was a
01:53:55.750 --> 01:54:03.100
Evidence that supported that, uh, all the cards are off the table at that point, anything, all the cards
01:54:03.189 --> 01:54:06.609
On the table is that the, is that the phrase they're all on the table, you can play whatever you want.
01:54:06.610 --> 01:54:07.989
I think the Supreme court would get involved.
01:54:07.990 --> 01:54:09.189
You'd have Congress get involved.
01:54:09.189 --> 01:54:11.710
You have, uh, you know, local legislatures
01:54:11.710 --> 01:54:12.310
Would get involved.
01:54:12.430 --> 01:54:13.689
It'd be all hands on deck.
01:54:14.020 --> 01:54:15.130
And we'll see if we
01:54:15.789 --> 01:54:16.899
All right, one more.
01:54:18.159 --> 01:54:19.359
Let's take a look here.
01:54:19.360 --> 01:54:29.500
We have a Philip Riley who says, maybe people are aware enough for accurate voting to occur paper ballot separated from the internet, recounted a precinct level, then recounted at the County election office.
01:54:29.859 --> 01:54:31.810
And so on, we have Calgary 82.
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He says, when does the health and safety of the public supersede the rights of an individual?
01:54:36.430 --> 01:54:38.260
Yeah, for example, seatbelts.
01:54:38.380 --> 01:54:39.250
So that's a good question.
01:54:39.251 --> 01:54:43.479
I mean, I think that a lot of
people are having that conversation right now and I'm one of them.
01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:43.600
Yeah.
01:54:43.659 --> 01:54:44.500
I'm not real sure.
01:54:45.729 --> 01:54:48.039
Uh, I'm not real sure where it's going to fall.
01:54:48.189 --> 01:54:51.760
You know, a lot of people like me are on the freedom side.
01:54:52.779 --> 01:54:55.270
Just let adults deal with adult things.
01:54:55.960 --> 01:54:58.029
We have viruses, we have pandemics.
01:54:58.060 --> 01:54:59.260
We know how this stuff,
01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:01.810
Let people just be people.
01:55:02.079 --> 01:55:02.340
And
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If you are somebody who is in a high risk category, if you're somebody who's elderly, if you're somebody who has some of the comorbidities, you can stay home.
01:55:11.199 --> 01:55:12.399
You have the freedom
01:55:12.670 --> 01:55:14.319
As an adult to do that.
01:55:14.529 --> 01:55:19.449
And if you don't have the capabilities to do that, well, we, as a society will help you do that.
01:55:19.569 --> 01:55:24.100
We'll help you, you know, find a place to live or whatever that looks like for the most part
01:55:24.159 --> 01:55:24.819
Honorable.
01:55:24.939 --> 01:55:29.949
But why are we imposing the same restrictions that the vulnerable people need on
01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:31.300
Literally everybody else?
01:55:31.329 --> 01:55:31.539
Okay.
01:55:31.541 --> 01:55:36.850
And this is speaking to somebody who had two people in the hospital for COVID for 48 days and almost died, right?
01:55:36.890 --> 01:55:38.890
I have been touched by this virus.
01:55:39.100 --> 01:55:43.119
This is not me speaking as a 35 year old, healthy young.
01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:49.380
This is me speaking as somebody who almost lost his brother and debatably his, his mother to COVID.
01:55:49.409 --> 01:55:49.649
Okay.
01:55:49.650 --> 01:55:50.760
I know how this works.
01:55:51.779 --> 01:55:57.630
That being said, we still should not be locking people up and locking people down.
01:55:57.631 --> 01:56:01.260
I think this thing is causing more harm than, than, than good.
01:56:01.261 --> 01:56:03.659
I think that there's, and I'm seeing it in my profession.
01:56:03.661 --> 01:56:10.170
I'm seeing a lot of alcohol crimes, a lot of domestic violence, domestic violence this past year has gone through the roof.
01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:15.869
Many people know I'm involved in a suicide, uh, sort of a post suicide grief organization.
01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:17.850
Suicide calls are up.
01:56:18.090 --> 01:56:20.819
Alcoholism is up around the country.
01:56:20.819 --> 01:56:24.060
People are really, really hurting as a result of these lockdowns.
01:56:24.060 --> 01:56:27.090
I think that the cure is worse than the virus itself.
01:56:27.119 --> 01:56:28.619
And I think we're going to see the effects of this.
01:56:28.621 --> 01:56:29.220
Think about these.
01:56:29.460 --> 01:56:33.239
Think about the hundreds of thousands, millions of kids who are not
getting an education.
01:56:33.240 --> 01:56:34.319
It's just a loss year.
01:56:34.590 --> 01:56:38.489
What are we, how are they going to be impacted from this 15 years from now?
01:56:38.909 --> 01:56:39.449
I don't know.
01:56:39.869 --> 01:56:48.449
I don't think anybody else knows either, but I do think that there's a smarter way for us to handle this other than just locking everything down and making people wear a mask.
01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:49.560
All right.
01:56:51.180 --> 01:56:51.750
Uh, all right.
01:56:51.751 --> 01:56:52.079
All right.
01:56:52.081 --> 01:56:52.439
All right.
01:56:52.440 --> 01:56:53.310
Well, let's leave it at that.
01:56:53.310 --> 01:56:54.869
Everybody it's been a long show.
01:56:54.871 --> 01:57:01.079
There was some breaking news today in the middle of the program, and I need to go get caught up and start preparing for tomorrow's show.
01:57:01.079 --> 01:57:02.069
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01:57:02.250 --> 01:57:04.439
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01:58:38.970 --> 01:58:41.310
Bussa not cause it's it's.
01:58:41.800 --> 01:58:42.130
I think
01:58:42.130 --> 01:58:45.970
It might be time for sticky, icky time, whatever that may be.
01:58:45.970 --> 01:58:47.289
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So have a wonderful evening.
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