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Speaker 5: Two pros and a Cup of Joe edition. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app along with hundreds and hundreds of affiliates all across the country. We won't be taking you live all the way up until 3 o'clock Eastern time at noon Pacific here. And how we feeling, boys, on this Thursday morning?
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Speaker 6: We're being professional today. Yeah, that's correct.
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Speaker 7: We just went to our first segment.
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Speaker 3: Brady Quinn, this dude before every single show, man.
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Speaker 6: Every break.
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Speaker 4: What?
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Speaker 6: And then he had teamwork today. It's all good.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand.
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Speaker 3: This dude said you need a kayak to make it to go into the restroom here in the restroom. It's got to be the funniest joke I've heard. People don't be aiming for the toilet. Let me just go ahead and hit the floor with it. Let me bless the floor with this golden goodness. You know how you, when you go to a bathroom. You got to park the golden seat to go to the restroom around here.
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Speaker 5: You know how when you go to use the bathroom at a gas station, like the key's attached to a squeegee.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, or like a cinder block or something. Here it's a snorkel. Like you got to.
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Speaker 5: You got to really navigate waters for real to get there.
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Speaker 3: And then they locked the ladies' bathrooms. It used to be both bathrooms were unisex, right? They locked the girls' bathrooms, so you can't go.
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Speaker 6: Into the clean bathroom.
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Speaker 5: I told you, Nikki Sixx was onto something when he worked out of this building.
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Speaker 2: He just went right in the parking lot. Broad daylight.
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Speaker 6: Didn't even care.
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Speaker 2: It's like, is that Nikki Sixx?
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Speaker 6: It's like, yes, it is.
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Speaker 3: Then he transitioned to the flu healer and the common cold healer. bq it was it's been quite it's been quite the pre-show uh i was gonna.
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Speaker 7: Ask uh i don't want to kick off the show but did y'all watch yesterday did you did you see that.
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Speaker 3: I did not um but i it was discussed in here though yeah there was a uh apparently some glitches with uh The Rossini report yesterday that took place, some glitches and some AI jokes. Were there glitches before that show or was this because it's a new show? I mean, that's the rumor. But, you know, hey, look, man, you know, we need information. Does he have a segment called If I Did It? I'm not quite sure.
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Speaker 5: But look, she's back, and we'll be, I'm sure, breaking news.
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Speaker 6: Welcome back, Diana. Good luck to you. All right, but enough of the shenanigans here. Let's get to the show.
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Speaker 3: No real shenanigans. Not like you get arrested over running somebody over. Everybody's just got to grow up.
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Speaker 6: A little bit. Okay, all right.
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Speaker 5: Dateline Nashville. Rex Ryan is in the news again. Rex Ryan, who recently was on the Bussin' with the Boys podcast. He works for ESPN. He also apparently is the only guy on planet Earth who would do anything for the Jets job.
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Speaker 6: Anything.
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Speaker 5: And by anything, I mean run over people's feet in the streets of Nashville. This according to an incident that took place on November 5th. Rex Ryan, uh, Oh, wow.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 5: And making contact with one of the individual's legs, this according to the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department, the pedestrians said the vehicle kept going, but stopped for the red light at Broadway and Representative John Lewis Way, where they waved down the driver. They said he stepped out of the truck to argue with them, got back in and drove away. They took pictures of the truck's license plate and the driver.
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Speaker 6: Really beautiful feet.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 6: I was just going to say, if there's anyone who's remorseful about this, you'd think it'd be Rex Ryan. Talk about when liking feet, loving feet goes bad.
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Speaker 5: Now, I've got it on good authority that the reason that they stopped him is because he was actually licking his tires afterwards.
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Speaker 6: So I don't know if you heard the same story. Rubbing them tires. Is there a chance that he was so... He was so enamored with their feet, that's what caused him to drive in their direction.
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Speaker 2: He got distracted.
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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 7: You don't talk about it. You see something that you can't take your eyes off of. Also, you start kind of turning that way.
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Speaker 6: You go where your eyes go. Oh, man. Is that a seven and a half narrow? Oh, gosh. They had to have had open totes. Hey, what's the old school way to teach a tackle? They had to have open-toed shoes on. Hey, see what you hit, right? That's what they say. That's what they used to teach.
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Speaker 3: See what you hit. If your eyes are down, that's where your body's going. The easiest way to get stiff-armed is if your head is down because your eyes are down.
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Speaker 6: You know what I mean? His eyes were down.
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Speaker 3: I just think that you've got to have some precise driving skills to only hit somebody's toe and barely hit their leg while you're driving over the toes.
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at the report, and I think to myself, you've got a pickup truck. You know how big pickup truck wheels are, tires are, even on just a regular-sized pickup truck? How did you just precisely run over two people's toes and barely hit the legs?
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Speaker 6: I don't get it.
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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you think that they would hit the legs, like the truck would hit their legs?
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Speaker 6: Here's my question. That's a long feet. Yeah, what are they, walking around in skis? You know what I mean? How do you just run over their toes?
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Speaker 3: Is that scuba gear you got on? I took pictures of my toes. Look at that toenail on the big toe. What did they hit?
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Speaker 2: Now, is he.
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Speaker 5: Because, look, I think that he wants back into the NFL. I think he wants to be a coach again. Just the way that he talks about it, the way that he was, you know, basically campaigning for the Jets job before they gave it to Aaron Glenn. And Aaron Glenn, I mean, that's, you know, that'll be wrapping up here pretty quick based on what we've seen.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a wrap.
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Speaker 5: Do you think Woody Johnson, right, Brady Quinn, who played for the New York Jets, do you believe that Woody Johnson... sees this and it deters him from wanting to bring back Rex Ryan, who desperately wants back in to be the Jets head coach.
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Speaker 6: I was there with Rex.
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Speaker 7: I mean, he was part of the coaching staff that when I signed with the Jets, he was the head coach. So I would say this. I don't know if there's anyone else who wants it as much as he does. I mean, he's a passionate guy. He gives some great speeches at a time where I think you could fire up the team like that. It needs a little bit of those juices. I would say this about most NFL owners. When they're desperate, they're willing to pretty much overlook everything. So I wouldn't rule out a reunion. I really wouldn't. And if you look at this team, it's talented enough where I think if you bring back some of the defensive prowess, especially with the talent they've got on that side of the ball, he could do a lot of things. I know he's been out a while, but I don't know. Again, how many guys want that job, are dying for that job? It feels like he's the only one. Man, that's one of 32. Somebody wants that job, and they want it badly. Now, granted, he has connective tissue to it. He was a part of ground and pound. He had success. He was the coach when Bart was on the, like, can't wait.
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Speaker 6: I get all that. I mean, we went to the playoffs, dude. Yeah, they did. Yeah, I know.
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Speaker 7: I know.
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Speaker 6: Why not? Run it back. If that's the idea of it, then run it back.
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Speaker 3: But to say nobody else would want that job, I mean, I'll raise my hand.
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Speaker 6: I'll take it.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
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Speaker 6: Who would not want to get an NFL head coaching job? That's not what I said. Okay, all right. That's not what I said. I said no one wants it as bad as he does. Okay, all right.
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Speaker 7: No one's been politicking and putting their hand up the entire time, despite whatever disasters they've been through.
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Speaker 6: That's fair. And that is fair.
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Speaker 7: And by the way, they fired his ass and he said he wants to go back. How many guys go through that experience and say, no, no, no, no, I want another shot at this at that place.
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Speaker 6: I want to go back there. I mean, Rex Ryan.
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Speaker 3: And listen, I don't look at, to your original question, I don't look at him running toes over as a deterrent from hiring. In fact, I would hire him even quicker than after running their toes over because that says to me he's all gas no.
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Speaker 5: Brakes literally and also i'm just saying you know they like some people that you know.
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Speaker 3: Hey right now you got a whole bunch of coaches that got their foot on the brake you know what i mean you don't want to coach with a foot on the brake right now.
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Speaker 5: So you know how people with any sort of an issue, like if somebody has, say, a drug issue, just to rid themselves of it all, they'll just throw it away.
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Speaker 6: They'll throw it in the toilet. They'll flush it. Flush it down, yeah.
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Speaker 5: Maybe this is Rex's way of exercising that fetish. Like, I'm so overfeed, I'll just run him over. I will run him over, I'll get arrested on six charges, and still throw my name on the hat to be the Jets head coach. That's a wild way to get over your past. But he did have a ton of success there. He also was with the Bills. And you don't ever hear him talk about the Bills the way that he talks about the Jets. And I think that there's something about that place that he went on local radio. He's talked about it on television. Unless this was all to get a better deal from ESPN, I think he really, really would want that job. I think the way he talks about it, he wants back in. He wants an opportunity. And if you are the Jets and you're Woody Johnson, why the F not, man? At this point, nothing else has worked except for him. Nothing else has worked.
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Speaker 6: I mean.
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Speaker 3: Would you go back to that old girlfriend if she was the only one that made you happy by default?
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Speaker 5: I mean.
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Speaker 6: Or would you keep moving? I think that's what a lot of people do, right?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just tired of looking for somebody who gave me that loving feeling like my old shorty did.
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Speaker 6: And so now let's.
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Speaker 3: You know, if you're saying you really want to come back and, you know, we can rekindle it that way. I just don't think it ever works out the second time around. I just really don't. But sometimes it has. Didn't Bono and Cher work
out more.
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Speaker 6: Than one time? Did they break up maybe? Did it happen? I know they loved each other.
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Speaker 7: I mean, look, he's the last guy to lead you to the playoffs. He's the last guy to do it. I see nothing wrong. We've given him another shot.
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Speaker 6: Oh, yeah. Despite this potential situation that might be a foot in the way.
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Speaker 3: So what you're saying is Woody Johnson should be willing to dip his toe into the conversation.
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Speaker 6: I'll bring it right.
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Speaker 3: Listen, I'll say this. Ground and pound in today's NFL would work.
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Speaker 4: It will work.
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Speaker 6: That's all I'm going to say.
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Speaker 3: If you can play defense, what have we talked about, lauded, praised, is the Minnesota Vikings defense, right? We said you got a defense that can make you, that has made you a significant, legitimate Super Bowl contender.
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Speaker 6: All they need is some more offense.
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Speaker 3: If you tell me that if you didn't have a ground-and-pound offense today, that was connected to that Minnesota Vikings team, that they wouldn't be on their way to somewhere far along the line in terms of where they get this season, I would say you're 100% in position to win it all if you had the type of offense that Rex Ryan created in New York when they were going to the playoffs.
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Speaker 6: It's coming back at some point.
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Speaker 5: You want to know how bad the Jets are? Rex Ryan was four games under. 500 as coach there, and we're talking about him like he's Belichick. They hoisted Lombardi's. He was four games under.
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Speaker 3: 500.
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Speaker 5: Like, oh, my God. Where's the statue? What are we doing? And if you look actually at his career in Buffalo. You're cold-blooded, bro. You are a cold-blooded dude, bro. I'm just saying. But they're at the point to where this is what you got. So if you want somebody... who's looking for an opportunity, and you want to do it right, you bring them back. We forgive on this show. I don't know about you guys. If people there want to sit in judgment, you can sit in judgment all you want. We forgive on this show. Rex, you are forgiven. You're going to have to pay a little bit. Those people are getting paid, right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to get paid. Yeah, that's going to get settled pretty quickly. Unless the insurance company wants to drag it out, but that one's going to be a cut and dry one right there. I mean, the man had to turn himself in. What did you turn yourself in for? I ran over some feet. Rolled over some toes.
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Speaker 6: Can't make it up, man. Can't make that up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I saw the story, I thought, okay.
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Speaker 7: I mean, of all the people for it to happen to, like someone who's been so public about their love for feet, just wild.
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Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's terrible.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that he ran away from them and didn't come back to try. He could have probably smoothed it out if he had went back and just tried to, like, you know, care for their feet.
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Speaker 6: Y'all need some ice. Y'all need some help. Some walking boots.
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Speaker 3: What do you need? Like, let's figure this out. It might have went a little different. Maybe that's where it went sideways because he was in denial. You were belligerent about it. That's what it sounds like. I would never run over feet.
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Speaker 6: F your feet. You know who you're talking to? I'd never do that. You can get a new couch. What about my feet, Eddie Murphy?
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Speaker 7: Well, maybe he judged their feet. Maybe they showed him, like, look what you did. And he's like, no, I was already like that. You need to get a pedicure.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he had too many corns. Yeah, I don't blame him. It disgusted him, and so he ran him over. It's really gross. Yeah, it's really gross.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: But, hey, look, if you are the Jets.
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Speaker 3: If this is where you're at as the Jets, you should just put the team up for sale, man. You'll probably get more out of it if you just move on at this point versus trying to continue to figure it out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we've talked about this before.
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Speaker 5: If you're an NFL owner and you're still making the money you're making and you can just roll out a mediocre to below mediocre product every year, what's the incentive?
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Speaker 6: Just cash out. Cash out.
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Speaker 5: And doesn't Woody Johnson have a– does he own soccer teams as well too? Does he own other stuff also? I think he owns some other stuff, if I'm not mistaken.
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Speaker 6: How well do they do? Yeah, he owns some other stuff. Do they do well?
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Speaker 3: I just cash out, man. Give somebody else a chance. I used to say this for years about Daniel Snyder. Just sell the team. You're holding the fans hostage. At one point, the New York Jets fireman guy. Then you're just a rich guy. You're not a rich guy who owns a sports team.
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Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 6: Go into NASCAR. Get a car.
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Speaker 3: I feel like when you spend money and you're just a rich guy and you want to have swag factor and you're clout chasing, go in the NASCAR.
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Speaker 6: Go into Formula One. Do Formula One.
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Speaker 2: Your guy Joe Gibbs did it.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, right. There you go. Successful.
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Speaker 3: You're trying to instigate. I'm not trying to instigate anything. I don't like Joe Gibbs. I'm not a fan of him. I'll say it every time you bring him up. I think he's a fraud. Okay, so there we go. You got what you wanted. I gave you what you were looking for. No, I just mentioned NASCAR. I wanted to point that out. Well, I'm just saying, I thought about Michael Jordan, you know.
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Speaker 6:
Yeah, that too. Daytona 500, Michael Jordan. Down low. Yeah, that's right. Down low.
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Speaker 6: Will Stein, the head coach at Kentucky, joins us.
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Speaker 2: Open bar at a wedding.
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Speaker 6: Ordering a Shirley Temple.
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Speaker 6: Ketchup on steak.
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Speaker 6: Will not. Thank you. A little bit of this.
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Speaker 2: And then I'm going home to the BBC, and they're saying Jockovich instead of Jokovich.
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Speaker 6: Right, because you can't say Jockovich.
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Speaker 8: If you do, you know the blowback you're going to get from the American audience.
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Speaker 6: Right. And a whole lot of this.
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Speaker 5: It's the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. In for Colin. By the way, coming up in about 20 minutes from now, we will have another edition of the Herdline News starring Tonga Tuohy. who will be dropping the tea on us here on a Thursday morning.
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Speaker 6: So that'll be yours.
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Speaker 3: You have to understand, I'm doing the show awake. I'm awake doing the show. I'm vibrant. I actually got multiple hours of sleep and was able to get a cup of coffee when I woke up. Good conversation before I came in, drove in and did the show. So if I come across as a little bit more energetic than I usually do or a little bit more.
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Speaker 6: Vibrant than what i usually usually.
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Speaker 3: Am and my voice sounds a little different because i just want to apologize for that now my bad behavior is not because i'm happy i'm in this slot it's because i got a little bit of sleep that's.
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Speaker 6: All what are you getting at nothing you don't normally get sleep.
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Speaker 3: No, I wasn't implying anything other than to apologize that I'm awake right now.
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Speaker 6: I'm living in the moment where my toes are. I'm 10 toes down where I'm at currently. That's all. I mean, it's 10 toes down.
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Speaker 3: It's 10 toes down, and I don't want them in front of Rex Ryan either.
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Speaker 5: I would just say, yeah, the time slot we work in is 6 a.m.
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Speaker 6: Eastern time, 3 o'clock Pacific. So out here on the West Coast, it's a 1 a.m. wake-up call. Yeah, it's all good. It's normal.
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Speaker 7: It is.
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Speaker 3: It is. It is.
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Speaker 6: Yeah. You're just not always all the way fully awake. Man. I got seven hours. My God. Come on. Up top. Up top. Yeah. So I'm talking about that sleep player. All right.
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Speaker 5: So Drew Brees apparently is throwing his name in the hat as somebody who would be interested in the Monday night football gig. So now before we before we get into are we just assuming that Troy Aikman and Joe Buck can't mend fences? I mean, everything seems so great on the broadcast. There's no awkward tension or anything like that.
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Speaker 6: Oh, come on. Are you being sarcastic? I think it is.
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Speaker 2: Look, they still sound good together.
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Speaker 5: But when you start going body language route, it just it appears like and maybe it's because we know.
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Speaker 6: What does that even mean?
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Speaker 7: So you're basically judging them off of the open hit where they're sitting there together.
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Speaker 5: There are times where Troy Aikman sit next to Joe Buck and I'm waiting for him to put him in a Darce joke. Like I'm waiting. When's that going to happen? At what point does he swing on him? during this game.
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Speaker 3: It would be amazing if we saw that though it'd be mortifying but it'd be amazing all at the same time like like turn in like
let's get a little level of competition and entertainment from the booth.
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Speaker 5: It just feels like it feels like everybody is has sort of closed the lid on on this whole this whole run and we're just talking about potential replacements for.
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Speaker 3: Because that's what it is right that's what it is now i think it's interesting and you could talk to it more than i could brady but I just think it's interesting that when you get a guy who has reportedly sold out the guy that you would think that you would never sell out if you were going to sell anybody out, they'd be not on the list, that you would actually be trying to get to that job to work with a sellout. That's what I, and I mean, you're a quarterback. I mean, I guess your career may mean more to you than taking the chance and the risk of working with somebody that you know You know, you got to be on your P's and your Q's and get him before he gets you type of scenario. Unhealthy working environment does not out, I mean, your talent will not outperform that.
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Speaker 6: Tell me about it.
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 6: What you got, Brady? Brady, what you got, man? What you got?
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Speaker 3: Because I almost, I almost, I almost Troy Aikman you. Damn.
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Speaker 7: When I first saw this news, my initial reaction to it was, well, no crap. Doesn't everyone who's calling a game want to be in that position? And so then I thought to myself, well, the difference is obviously Drew Brees has the credentials. He's a hall of famer. He's one of those prolific passers that the NFL has ever seen. The problem that I guess he's not aware of is, it's not like this is his first stint calling games. He was at NBC, and they decided not to renew him, not to sign him, and there's obviously something there. I would guess it was performance-related. They didn't believe he did a great job or he was the right fit, or he didn't want to wait for that opportunity to get to Sunday Night Football after Chris Collinsworth. Whatever the case may be, I would just say this. It wasn't enough to... to convince those executives at NBC that they should dethrone Chris Collinsworth and have him take over that job. And the reason why I bring that up is because if you look at the dynamic at Fox, Greg Olson is that next name that's kind of rumored that ESPN is looking to target Peyton Manning as well. And I'll get to that in a second. But, you know, Greg Olson has won Emmys as the number one analyst and as the number two analyst as well. I believe he's won three different Emmys. He's won being an event analyst, I believe multiple times. And I think he's also emerged at the emerging talent where he's won that at some point too in his career. So I believe he's won three Emmys. And I think at least one, if not two of which maybe as the number two analyst. And so a couple of things on that note, one, like you don't have to be in the number one spot to be appreciated. I think that's evidence of that with the job that Greg Olson's done. Two, you know, it's not like Drew Brees has leapfrogged anyone or they've watched him and said, okay, here, let's go for this. That hasn't been the case. He obviously hasn't impressed people enough to warrant that. I mean, he's obviously had even a better career than Greg Olson, but Greg Olson has done a better job at TV. So that's probably why he's been rumored to be that guy to go take that Monday night spot. There's clearly a past relationship with Joe Buck from his days at Fox, maybe not working with Greg, but obviously knowing Greg and having a relationship with him.
00:25:19
Speaker 6: And so it's just like, yeah, doesn't everyone want that job? It's not surprising.
00:25:23
Speaker 7: And obviously he's being public about it, which is a bit odd too, because Troy's still in that spot to that point. And even if Troy was to leave, they've got other in-house candidates. Peyton Manning, who does the Manning cast, which that continues to, by the way, dwindle as far as the ratings go. So if they start to roll that down, they might say to Peyton, hey, we know you've got the opportunity to maybe join organizations as a general manager, but there's also this Monday night football job opening. Maybe you want to do that, you know, because the Manning cast, it's not rating as well as it used to. I mean, the Pat McAfee alternate cast isn't either. That's a whole nother conversation. But my point is, is they've, they've got other people like Peyton Manning who are already working. They're working with Pat McAfee. They're already working with, if they wanted to go that route, who have an inside leg on them. And even at their own, his own network right now at Fox, uh, greg's done an incredible job to the point where now everyone's waiting to maybe sign him as their number one analyst so there's an element of like maybe drew breeze just doesn't see himself in the same light as everyone else does here at least that's how i'm.
00:26:25
Speaker 6: Looking at it you're saying he's delusional.
00:26:28
Speaker 3: I don't use that word but i think that was i mean i'll put a cherry on top of it and and put the bow on it and send it out for delivery i mean that sounds like a delusional idea and lacks self-awareness.
00:26:42
Speaker 7: It's not delusional because I think he's got the credentials, obviously, for it. But maybe from the job that he's done as an analyst, it's not quite there yet for him.
00:26:50
Speaker 3: I saw the same reports the first time around that you just discussed as well.
00:26:55
Speaker 6: So what you're saying isn't delusional.
00:26:58
Speaker 3: In fact, it is almost close to factual because I was working for Fox in Fox Studios doing television the first time around when all of those things started surfacing.
00:27:11
Speaker 6: And being discussed.
00:27:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, when the whole trying to move from where you were going to get more and didn't work out and you
weren't renewed, all that stuff that.
00:27:21
Speaker 6: Q just highlighted. But I will say this. if you've heard him call games lately, I think he's improved. Yes.
00:27:29
Speaker 3: For one, I think he's improved. I think he's more settled into afterlife. I think there was still an idea or a thought that he could potentially return to the game during that first time around. I think he's really leaned into being a professional at this point. And I think that the product that, that he's produced as, as an analyst is, And color call, like, I think he has truly improved. I have no problem with him putting that out there for the idea of maybe there's the potential of it, at least entertain it on that level. He is one of, again, some would consider maybe the most prolific passer in the history of the game. His credentials do reign supreme, and there are very few people in the company of Drew Brees, and he has improved.
00:28:19
Speaker 5: So.
00:28:20
Speaker 3: When you look at it, I mean, if you're going to bring in Pat McAfee, I think at this point we know what that is. You're going for a different audience altogether outside of just what the normal audience that you draw into a Monday night football game. Now you're touching into Monday night raw, which would be interesting to see how that would work out. If you're talking about Peyton Manning, I think Peyton Manning is super gifted, super talented in the way that he's able to to communicate and being able to see him in that manner. I think that that's a win. I just, I think that you got to take a serious look at it. I certainly would say that. And, and Emmys and all for, for, you know, for Olsen, I think that's great that he's been able to achieve at that level. But you and I know, Q, we've been in this business. If there's somebody that would deserve to have these types of opportunities based off of what they bring to the table, we just listened to your analysis just now. I mean, I would think that somebody like Brady Quinn would be a guy that you entertain and you have the conversations about.
00:29:26
Speaker 6: But it ultimately comes down to what people's resumes are.
00:29:30
Speaker 3: And so he can have an Emmy, but the bottom line is that he doesn't have a gold jacket. He had a great career. I don't think he's a Hall of Fame tight end from the NFL.
00:29:39
Speaker 6: All right. I think you're going to be a little bit.
00:29:42
Speaker 3: Biased towards the gold jacket and the fact that he's one of the most prolific passers.
00:29:46
Speaker 6: He holds records. Enough's enough here. I let it slide the first segment when you said.
00:29:50
Speaker 3: I don't be trying to get rid of Brady, but I'm just saying they should take him seriously.
00:29:54
Speaker 5: I got a problem here because the first segment you mentioned that you would.
00:29:58
Speaker 6: Want the Jets head coach.
00:29:59
Speaker 3: You heard me say you wouldn't want the Jets head coach.
00:30:02
Speaker 5: And now you're saying Brady should go leave us and take a better broadcast or a bigger broadcasting gig.
00:30:08
Speaker 6: Did you just hear his analysis on the situation? Yeah, I'm aware.
00:30:11
Speaker 3: I mean, people break things down very nicely. I think Q has the voice that goes along with what he puts out there.
00:30:18
Speaker 6: It's believable. I've been in situations where I thought he was totally wrong.
00:30:24
Speaker 3: But it's like that skit we talked about yesterday.
00:30:28
Speaker 6: Like, who? Well, where? Why?
00:30:31
Speaker 3: Why?
00:30:32
Speaker 6: But who? Denied, denied, denied. And you know what? And by the time we got done, I was like, he's right. Can I get you anything? Yeah, what do you need? You want some ads?
00:30:40
Speaker 7: You guys are going to be more impressed with how fast I was able to find that clip.
00:30:43
Speaker 6: It's pretty good.
00:30:44
Speaker 5: I still don't even know what movie that was from. That was really good.
00:30:47
Speaker 6: I think it was like a 1960s movie.
00:30:51
Speaker 3: I mean, he played it true player style. I mean, that's as player as it gets, man.
00:30:56
Speaker 5: Yeah, for people unfamiliar, there was an old school movie clip that just was very similar to the way Diana Rossini handled her situation upon her return. But on the subject of, because you mentioned something, Brady, so the alternate broadcast of the Manning cast, Pat McAfee, so those.
00:31:19
Speaker 6: Numbers have started to slip a little bit, correct?
00:31:22
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was actually a report that just came out, and I don't know, have you guys ever watched that Next Gen Stats? Prime does their own version of it on Thursday nights, and then Monday Night Football does it as well with, or excuse me, NFL Network does it for some of the broadcasts too.
00:31:36
Speaker 6: Have you guys watched that on Monday night? I've seen it a couple of times. That's really cool. I'd have to say no.
00:31:42
Speaker 8: Okay, well.
00:31:42
Speaker 7: I'll say this tonight. Go watch the next-gen stat version. I don't know exactly what Prime calls it.
00:31:50
Speaker 6: Where is it at? It's an alternate.
00:31:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's an alternate, but it's really neat. It's almost like it looks like the video game angle for the entire game, but you see everything, and they kind of highlight certain.
00:32:02
Speaker 6: It's a really cool deal.
00:32:04
Speaker 7: Anyway, that has actually been outrating, at least the NFL Networks version, then the alternate cast on ESPN too. And what's even more alarming about that is actually NFL networks in fewer households than ESPN too is. And so not only do you have a greater likelihood of, of drawing in a greater audience, they're still not able to do that.
00:32:22
Speaker 5: Um, here's my theory as to why the alternate broadcasts are not working. It's similar to the Nickelodeon stuff where like they try to do the Nickelodeon, you know, game, like, cause you want
to see players get slimed and we're going to appeal to kids.
00:32:35
Speaker 6: I just think people, want to watch football. Thank you. They've heard the personalities. They've heard the voices.
00:32:42
Speaker 5: They're force-fed them all week long. They just want to watch the game. And if you want more intel on the numbers and that stuff, you'll watch you know, what Amazon puts out there that we just talked about to where you can see, Hey, how many yards was this? You know, area, like all the, like it's, it's an added ingredient to it, but we don't need a.
00:33:00
Speaker 6: Guest.
00:33:01
Speaker 5: We don't need a show during the game. And I think people are just kind of worn thin on that. Like, I just want to watch the doses, right?
00:33:09
Speaker 3: If you do, if you did this in doses, I get it. But I don't want to watch a full game of watching y'all clowning around and joking around.
00:33:19
Speaker 6: It's fun, but in doses.
00:33:20
Speaker 5: They'll do it during the national championship game where you'll get like three or four different broadcasts going on at the same time. And it's like, I don't give a crap. I just want to watch the game. I don't want to hear everybody else's conversation they're having mid-game. I can have that in my house. And half the people in my house don't even speak English. So if I really wanted that, I'd just experience that at home. Let me just watch the game and understand what's going on.
00:33:45
Speaker 1: What?
00:33:50
Speaker 3: Sorry.
00:33:51
Speaker 6: You just can't help yourself.
00:33:52
Speaker 1: What?
00:33:53
Speaker 6: You got to come in from all different directions and all different languages. That's his issue. Jonas is one toxic dude, man.
00:33:59
Speaker 3: Yes, he is.
00:34:00
Speaker 6: I'm telling you. You are a real pleasure to do radio with, bro. Let me tell you something. You are a real pleasure, bro. Golly. How have you not noticed this earlier in the morning with him? He's a toxic dude, man. He's toxic. He's radioactive. He's radioactive, man.
00:34:21
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00:34:35
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00:34:39
Speaker 5: It's The Herd here on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here.
00:34:44
Speaker 6: Where's the candy?
00:34:48
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00:35:15
Speaker 2: Let us know what you think.
00:35:16
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00:35:20
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no.
00:35:22
Speaker 2: Turn on the news.
00:35:23
Speaker 4: This is the Herdline News.
00:35:26
Speaker 2: And it's Greg Toohey.
00:35:27
Speaker 3: Yeah!
00:35:28
Speaker 4: Tongue in two-y.
00:35:30
Speaker 6: Tongue in two-y. Hit him with the two-y.
00:35:31
Speaker 2: I don't think Brady knows what the tongue in two-y is.
00:35:33
Speaker 6: Explain it, please.
00:35:34
Speaker 2: So we'll have to explain it.
00:35:35
Speaker 9: Well, there's a player on the Texans, Brady, Tommy Togiai, and every time he gets a sack or makes a big play, he does the tongue and T celebration and two, he's a Texas and I'm a Texas fan. And Jonas is, was the first to point that I'd never heard anybody actually mentioned that before.
00:35:47
Speaker 7: That wasn't the tongue and T when they take one arm and they put it on top of the other.
00:35:52
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:35:52
Speaker 5: Yes.
00:35:52
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:35:53
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:35:54
Speaker 7: So, so this is one of those things where LaVar do not get offended, but like I remember in training camp, you know, we'd always, everyone steals each other's signals. Like the defense would steal your code words and stuff. We'd steal their signals when they checked to something. And the defense would always use that for like Tampa too. Like for some reason they thought no one would figure out. Hey, hey, like they make a tea. I'm like, it's as big and as blatant as anyone can see. Why are you getting upset about us then knowing exactly? Like, by the way, the other team's going to be able to figure it out. You don't think Peyton Manning or Drew Brees is going to be able to figure it out when you make like a big tea like that? You're going to Tampa too?
00:36:27
Speaker 2: Defense. I, however, am not a six-foot.
00:36:33
Speaker 6: He loves attacking deep fakes.
00:36:34
Speaker 3: Damn, bro.
00:36:35
Speaker 6: I'm just saying.
00:36:35
Speaker 3: 300-pound target.
00:36:36
Speaker 7: I just love it in practice, but I'm like, don't get mad about it. We're going to steal it every time.
00:36:40
Speaker 2: All right, guys, we'll start in Cleveland here.
00:36:43
Speaker 9: Todd Munkin announced this week that Deshaun Watson would be the starter again for Shador after Shador started last week. Here was Todd Munkin this week on the decision to go back to Deshaun.
00:36:58
Speaker 10: I mean, ultimately... The full body of work. I mean, the previous eight games that we had played, Sean played pretty well. And that was my intention. I just wanted to make sure we'd run it by the staff before I said it publicly. I don't even know why I have to say it publicly. Because it's really only our business in terms of who's going to play and who's not going to play. But he played well enough to
earn the still be our starter.
00:37:22
Speaker 2: Can somebody get him a lozenge, please? God, poor Munkin.
00:37:28
Speaker 5: Coach, next time you grab the Listerine, make sure it's not the Raid instead, because that sounded awful.
00:37:33
Speaker 6: Poor Todd Munkin.
00:37:34
Speaker 3: Hey, man.
00:37:35
Speaker 6: He's not even after a game, and he sounds like that.
00:37:37
Speaker 3: I mean, isn't that crazy shade Torshador Sanders, though?
00:37:41
Speaker 6: Honestly.
00:37:43
Speaker 2: Well, so here's the thing, though.
00:37:45
Speaker 9: Deshaun's in the last year of this $ 230.
00:37:47
Speaker 2: Million guaranteed contract, right?
00:37:50
Speaker 6: That's worked out well. It's worked out well.
00:37:52
Speaker 9: And I've been saying all week, if he's healthy.
00:37:55
Speaker 2: and the Browns are in the playoffs, he's starting the rest of the season.
00:37:58
Speaker 6: Did you hear what Q just did to you? There was a setup.
00:38:01
Speaker 3: You went with it like he meant it. But I'm just trying to let you know what Brady did.
00:38:06
Speaker 6: Was set you up.
00:38:07
Speaker 2: Brady, your thoughts on the Deshaun contract? It gets me every time.
00:38:15
Speaker 3: But why do people think there's no future with Deshaun Watson?
00:38:20
Speaker 9: But why do people think there's actually a real quarterback battle that could be brewing despite how well Shador plays?
00:38:26
Speaker 6: Because they both stink! Well, first off, I don't think that about Shador. He hasn't played enough.
00:38:32
Speaker 3: Right.
00:38:32
Speaker 6: Let him go out there and play the rest of the season.
00:38:34
Speaker 3: They must think he stinks and you're putting in a stink to start.
00:38:41
Speaker 6: You know the whole scuttlebutt is because I guess A.J.
00:38:44
Speaker 7: Ross during the game had made a report about Shador and Todd Munkin having a conversation about what plays he liked, and he said a bunch of plays that they didn't have in their offense. So look, this has gotten a lot of momentum.
00:39:01
Speaker 6: It's built up a lot of steam. I'll say this.
00:39:04
Speaker 7: I have no idea the context of the conversation. There's all kinds of conversations that are had in a quarterback room with your play callers about ideas that maybe you don't have in your offense. Maybe you saw someone else do it on film. Hell, maybe you saw college do it. We were trying to install things back in Denver when when Tebow came in for Kyle Orton stuff that we were honestly, I swear to God, I was watching West Virginia film. Like we were watching Oregon, West Virginia, some of his old Florida tape being like, can we do this?
00:39:35
Speaker 6: Could this work?
00:39:36
Speaker 7: Could, could any Royal be like our slot, our version of what Percy Harvin kind of was to him at Florida? Like you're trying to figure that stuff out sometimes.
00:39:44
Speaker 6: So you can help maximize that player.
00:39:46
Speaker 7: So I think they got way too much attention for probably what the conversation actually was.
00:39:50
Speaker 3: All seriousness, I feel like this is a scenario where it could be off-field and not just plays, but it could be off-field. That could be the reason. The lesser of the two evils is Deshaun Watson.
00:40:07
Speaker 6: I mean, are you creating a monster if you're starting to do it? Think about that.
00:40:11
Speaker 1: Dang.
00:40:11
Speaker 6: If the lesser of two evils is Deshaun Watson, think about that.
00:40:14
Speaker 1: Dang.
00:40:15
Speaker 6: Weirdo. Well, it's possible. What you got to it?
00:40:21
Speaker 9: Well, I was going to let you know, guys, real quick. We're short on time. But the Lakers did one. They're seven straight last night.
00:40:28
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:40:29
Speaker 2: Up top, Brady. Luca, Austin Reeves, Colin Sexton all went down with injuries.
00:40:33
Speaker 6: Oh, wow. Hey, don't look now, LeVar. You may get blinded, baby. Oh, no.
00:40:38
Speaker 2: Best record in the NBA. But this is not sustainable.
00:40:41
Speaker 6: It's not sustainable. It's not sustainable.
00:40:43
Speaker 2: 35 minutes a game for these guys.
00:40:45
Speaker 6: They're just too soft to handle that type of load.
00:40:47
Speaker 2: Oh, man.
00:40:48
Speaker 5: Come on.
00:40:49
Speaker 6: Don't take that snow time.
00:40:50
Speaker 3: Too soft. They're not used to working that hard for that long.
00:40:53
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
00:40:55
Speaker 6: Don't take that snow time. Tua, who's got the best record in the NBA? The Lakers. I'm just saying. They've fallen apart already, though. We haven't even got the season started yet. Throw the goddamn towel. Throw the towel. Y'all better bring in some guys that can handle it. Come on, man.
00:41:16
Speaker 3: That bumping and grinding, they too soft.
00:41:22
Speaker 2: You don't like the Snowtime Lakers?
00:41:25
Speaker 6: Come on, man. Down low. Oh, man. You better get them horses back out there, them bucking broncos.