Transcrição completa de Patrick Clancy & Lindsay Clancy: Partners in Fantasy Civil Suits.

The troubling thought you replace with 68 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:40.370 a positive new thought. And of course, we saw in the, 69 00:05:42.569 --> 00:05:47.589 her gratitude was all being grateful for Patrick Clancy taking 70 00:05:47.629 --> 00:05:52.430 these kids that she hated away from her, her mother 71 00:05:52.589 --> 00:05:55.990 jumping to help at a moment's notice. So I wanted 72 00:05:56.069 --> 00:06:00.379 to look at the civil case of Lindsay Clancy and 73 00:06:00.459 --> 00:06:04.579 show you how much it relies on Patrick Clancy's own words. 74 00:06:04.620 --> 00:06:08.000 So if you don't know, Patrick Clancy had a GoFundMe 75 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:15.259 started for him days after the murder of Cora Dawson 76 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:21.430 and Callan. And he immediately asked the public to forgive 77 00:06:21.470 --> 00:06:25.089 Lindsay Clancy. And then he most recently went on 60 78 00:06:25.089 --> 00:06:28.889 Minutes and said things like, I think mental illness has 79 00:06:28.949 --> 00:06:32.980 this ability to be tragically deceptive, as if mental illness 80 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.839 has a personality all of its own, as if someone 81 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:44.019 could be overtaken by, by this evil mental illness just 82 00:06:44.180 --> 00:06:50.310 roaming around. And it changes your morality. It changes your values, apparently, 83 00:06:50.350 --> 00:06:54.029 this mental illness. I've never seen this kind of mental illness, 84 00:06:54.069 --> 00:07:00.329 but okay. I think I have to ask the question, 85 00:07:00.610 --> 00:07:04.639 is it Lindsay Clancy who really feels is tragically deceptive? 86 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:09.160 Or is it Patrick Clancy himself who's tragically deceptive? Was 87 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:14.199 this a marriage of two tragically deceptive people? Then he 88 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:17.819 goes on and says, I saw headlines that said, you know, 89 00:07:17.980 --> 00:07:21.779 killer mom and baby murderer, monster, and none of them 90 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:29.629 were accurate. Well, monster is a more subjective take, right? 91 00:07:30.310 --> 00:07:35.199 I'd agree with that assessment, but many others... see Lindsay 92 00:07:35.250 --> 00:07:37.910 Clancy as a victim. I am not one of those 93 00:07:37.949 --> 00:07:43.490 people that sees killers as victims, but okay. I saw 94 00:07:43.509 --> 00:07:46.009 headlines that said, you know, killer mom and baby murder. 95 00:07:46.069 --> 00:07:53.540 That's technically exactly correct. What does he mean that's not accurate? 96 00:07:54.199 --> 00:08:02.910 That's absolutely accurate. even if you want to take Patrick 97 00:08:02.930 --> 00:08:05.529 Clancy's position that she was so ill and we all 98 00:08:05.550 --> 00:08:08.069 have to forgive her, what do we have to forgive 99 00:08:08.089 --> 00:08:14.110 her for? The fact that she murdered her three children, right? 100 00:08:14.689 --> 00:08:19.470 It can happen to anyone. And P.S., I

don't feel, 101 00:08:19.970 --> 00:08:22.889 I'm not going to forgive Lindsay Clancy for murdering her 102 00:08:22.939 --> 00:08:28.939 three children. And I think that Cora Dawson and Callan 103 00:08:31.029 --> 00:08:34.210 have really been let down by both the prosecution in 104 00:08:34.230 --> 00:08:37.950 the wimpy way that they tried this case, the poor 105 00:08:37.990 --> 00:08:40.389 way that they tried this case. I think they've been 106 00:08:40.429 --> 00:08:46.090 let down by Patrick Clancy, who immediately went and joined 107 00:08:46.149 --> 00:08:54.460 forces with his baby-killing, soon-to-be ex-wife. And interestingly, he didn't 108 00:08:54.600 --> 00:09:03.909 seek out partners of baby killers that wanted the maximum 109 00:09:03.970 --> 00:09:07.769 punishment for their child's murderer. It can happen to anyone. 110 00:09:07.789 --> 00:09:12.389 So he was asked about postpartum illness, and he's asserting 111 00:09:12.450 --> 00:09:16.889 here that men can have postpartum psychosis and postpartum depression 112 00:09:17.009 --> 00:09:22.320 that leads men to kill. So I guess Chris Watts, anyone? 113 00:09:23.419 --> 00:09:25.700 It can happen to anyone. I've met with so many 114 00:09:25.860 --> 00:09:32.289 other victims of people who had the disease, and fathers 115 00:09:32.330 --> 00:09:37.809 who have become victim to disease and lost children. Like, 116 00:09:37.830 --> 00:09:40.649 they just lost them. It's not that they murdered their children, 117 00:09:40.730 --> 00:09:52.080 and he considers those people victims. The child murderers victims. Okay, 118 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:56.059 so I just want to show you this GoFundMe, just 119 00:09:56.100 --> 00:09:57.019 how much it raised. 120 00:09:58.779 --> 00:09:59.220 Here it is. 121 00:09:59.220 --> 00:09:59.440 $ 1, 075, 411. 122 00:09:59.259 --> 00:10:01.730 And the link is in the description of this episode 123 00:10:01.750 --> 00:10:03.269 if you want to take a look at it. He 124 00:10:03.350 --> 00:10:19.139 describes his children, and then he goes on. I want 125 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:23.019 to share some thoughts about Lindsay. She's recently been betrayed 126 00:10:23.110 --> 00:10:26.370 largely by people who have never met her and never 127 00:10:26.450 --> 00:10:31.889 knew who the real Lindsay was. Again, tragically deceptive. Didn't 128 00:10:31.950 --> 00:10:35.129 know who the real Lindsay Clancy was. Could he be 129 00:10:35.169 --> 00:10:39.690 talking about himself? Or does he know who the real 130 00:10:39.730 --> 00:10:44.740 Lindsay Clancy is? And is he just like her? And 131 00:10:44.779 --> 00:10:50.090 has he joined forces with to be tragically deceptive himself. 132 00:10:50.169 --> 00:10:55.299 It's really hard to decipher in this case. Our marriage 133 00:10:55.399 --> 00:11:00.860 was wonderful and diametrically grew stronger as her condition rapidly worsened. 134 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:04.230 And we'll get to that condition in a second.

I 135 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:07.250 took as much pride in being her husband as I 136 00:11:07.309 --> 00:11:11.769 did in being a father and felt persistently lucky to 137 00:11:11.830 --> 00:11:14.289 have her in my life. So it's a kind of 138 00:11:14.490 --> 00:11:19.159 nagging luck. I still remember the very moment I first 139 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:23.840 laid eyes on her and can recall how overcome I 140 00:11:23.899 --> 00:11:26.350 was with the kind of love at first sight you 141 00:11:26.590 --> 00:11:29.970 only see in the movies. You only see it in 142 00:11:30.009 --> 00:11:34.149 the movies, guys. It really didn't take long before I 143 00:11:34.190 --> 00:11:37.269 was certain I wanted to marry her. We said I 144 00:11:37.590 --> 00:11:41.360 love you to each other multiple times daily as if 145 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:45.440 it were a reflex. So romantic, isn't it? That's just 146 00:11:45.460 --> 00:11:53.779 like your knee flying up at the doctors. Multiple times 147 00:11:53.860 --> 00:12:00.679 a day. Just a reflex. We habitually, this was their habit, 148 00:12:01.220 --> 00:12:05.779 started every morning with a passionate hug. Again, I'll say 149 00:12:05.820 --> 00:12:08.259 what I always say about this, which is I don't 150 00:12:08.299 --> 00:12:13.330 know how you can have a habitual passionate hug. The 151 00:12:13.350 --> 00:12:23.750 fact that it's a habit negates its passion, yielding a 152 00:12:23.970 --> 00:12:27.710 sigh of relief like we had each received the perfect medicine. 153 00:12:28.509 --> 00:12:31.940 If too much time passed without a hug, she'd look 154 00:12:31.980 --> 00:12:35.980 at me and ask, did you forget? We mutually understood 155 00:12:36.019 --> 00:12:39.299 the reality that people can have bad days, but we 156 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:42.139 stuck to the rule that when one of us got lost, 157 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.019 The other was there to bring them home. Well, what 158 00:12:45.059 --> 00:12:59.960 happened when Lindsay Clancy decided to murder her children? She 159 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.350 sent you out and she sent you away from the home. 160 00:13:03.379 --> 00:13:06.960 She didn't bring you into the home. So once again, 161 00:13:06.980 --> 00:13:08.960 I'll read that again. But we stuck to the rule 162 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.159 that when one of us got lost, the other was 163 00:13:11.220 --> 00:13:15.539 always there to bring them home. Always. She loved being 164 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.980 a nurse, but nothing matched her intense love for our kids. 165 00:13:20.500 --> 00:13:23.039 The kids that she murdered, she had intense love for. 166 00:13:23.590 --> 00:13:27.850 She showed that love by choosing an exercise band for 167 00:13:27.970 --> 00:13:32.269 each child, wrapping it around their neck. She says she 168 00:13:32.289 --> 00:13:35.230 brought Dawson down first. She described Dawson as one of 169 00:13:35.740 --> 00:13:43.009 most difficult human beings she's ever encountered. I think she said, 170 00:13:43.990 --> 00:13:47.250 that's my words, not exactly hers, but that's the essence 171 00:13:47.330 --> 00:13:52.230 of it in an online post. She brought Dawson down first, 172 00:13:53.029 --> 00:13:55.480 but when she was asked where the other kids were 173 00:13:55.720 --> 00:14:01.059 when she was taking Dawson to the basement, she strangely 174 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.419 had amnesia, couldn't remember. She couldn't remember everything else about 175 00:14:07.139 --> 00:14:09.470 except where the other children were, which leads me to 176 00:14:09.509 --> 00:14:13.149 believe that she took all the children down together and 177 00:14:13.230 --> 00:14:17.129 enjoyed the fear that she instilled in one child by 178 00:14:17.190 --> 00:14:25.919 making the children watch as she murdered their siblings. Otherwise, 179 00:14:25.940 --> 00:14:30.759 I don't understand why she wouldn't know where the children 180 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:34.070 were and their proximity when she, I think she has 181 00:14:34.289 --> 00:14:42.139 crystal clear memory of her crime. She said to Patrick 182 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:46.159 Clancy that it was like a dream. Not a nightmare, 183 00:14:46.179 --> 00:14:51.830 a dream. So she enjoys dreaming, thinking about her murder 184 00:14:51.870 --> 00:14:55.509 of her children. She loved being a nurse, but nothing 185 00:14:55.549 --> 00:14:57.990 matched her intense love for her kids and dedication to 186 00:14:58.029 --> 00:15:00.289 being a mother. I mean, this is so offensive to 187 00:15:00.350 --> 00:15:05.190 me to describe a mother as being dedicated to the 188 00:15:05.269 --> 00:15:09.419 kids and And we've seen other killer moms all described 189 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.330 like this. Her passion taught me how to be a 190 00:15:12.350 --> 00:15:13.169 better father. 191 00:15:14.090 --> 00:15:14.450 Really? 192 00:15:17.529 --> 00:15:26.480 How did that happen? So let's get into Lindsay Clancy's 193 00:15:28.539 --> 00:15:33.100 Little Miss Peachy. My wife was a needy checklist in 194 00:15:33.139 --> 00:15:36.830 my life, right? While I was writing a million posts 195 00:15:36.909 --> 00:15:43.340 on Reddit, I was very involved with fatherhood and my 196 00:15:44.100 --> 00:15:47.139 marriage and my habitually passionate marriage. 197 00:15:49.980 --> 00:15:50.360 All right. 198 00:15:53.059 --> 00:15:57.620 So before we get into Lindsay Clancy's lawyer has just 199 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:03.419 spoken out recently. This is her civil lawyer, not Kevin Reddington. 200 00:16:07.620 --> 00:16:13.870 This is her civil lawyer, Rosemary Scappaccio. This is from 201 00:16:14.309 --> 00:16:20.970 Lindsay Lucky Strike, Lindsay Linzer. I believe this is her. 202 00:16:22.029 --> 00:16:25.070 And the link to this tweet is linked in this 203 00:16:25.129 --> 00:16:27.549 episode's description if you want to take a look for yourself. 204 00:16:28.750 --> 00:16:35.100 So take a

listen to how Rosemary Scappaccio, Lindsay Clancy's 205 00:16:35.179 --> 00:16:43.519 civil lawyer, describes her current housing in a mental health 206 00:16:43.539 --> 00:16:47.240 facility and how she wants to end it all because 207 00:16:47.259 --> 00:16:50.080 she can't live without the kids she murdered. 208 00:16:50.740 --> 00:16:53.720 She's been at this facility for over three years now. 209 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.179 What has her life been like for the last three years? 210 00:16:56.259 --> 00:16:59.000 So she currently, and since she got there the first 211 00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:02.139 day that they transferred her to the hospital in Tewksbury, 212 00:17:02.809 --> 00:17:06.490 she's had what they call a one-on-one situation In other words, 213 00:17:07.369 --> 00:17:09.410 they can't leave her alone because they're concerned that she's 214 00:17:09.430 --> 00:17:11.910 going to kill herself. And so, you know, it's a 215 00:17:11.910 --> 00:17:14.410 state hospital. They don't have a ton of funding. And 216 00:17:14.430 --> 00:17:17.140 they've had her on a one-on-one suicide watch for over 217 00:17:17.180 --> 00:17:17.619 three years. 218 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:19.839 So is she suicidal right now? 219 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:20.869 She is. She is. 220 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:22.500 She doesn't want to be here. She wants to be 221 00:17:22.539 --> 00:17:23.140 with her children. 222 00:17:25.339 --> 00:17:28.700 Maybe if she wanted to be with her children, she 223 00:17:28.740 --> 00:17:33.009 shouldn't have farmed out. The parenting to other people. If 224 00:17:33.029 --> 00:17:34.890 she wanted to be with her children, maybe she should 225 00:17:34.910 --> 00:17:40.059 have stayed at the best mental health facility in the country, 226 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:46.799 McLean's Hospital. Instead of checking herself out early to get 227 00:17:46.940 --> 00:17:51.569 ready and attend Cora's birthday party, which she complains in 228 00:17:51.589 --> 00:17:55.650 the civil suit she was mentally unwell for, what kind 229 00:17:55.690 --> 00:18:00.750 of mother would want to be around you? four and 230 00:18:00.809 --> 00:18:05.450 five-year-olds at a birthday party when they're mentally unwell? Wouldn't the, 231 00:18:05.569 --> 00:18:08.690 if she was such a dedicated mother, wouldn't the well-being 232 00:18:08.730 --> 00:18:12.359 of her children come before herself? Wouldn't she know she'd 233 00:18:12.420 --> 00:18:16.519 have to get herself well so that she could be there, 234 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:20.220 be a good mother? Why is she running out of 235 00:18:20.279 --> 00:18:24.119 McLean's hospital, which she is suing? Patrick Clancy isn't suing it. 236 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:27.220 So they both have these civil lawsuits. And the only 237 00:18:27.269 --> 00:18:29.509 thing on the line in civil lawsuits is who's going 238 00:18:29.549 --> 00:18:29.849 to pay. 239 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:31.099 Right? 240 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:38.259 Patrick Clancy's seeking money, a money judgment, and so is 241 00:18:38.339 --> 00:18:47.890 Lindsay Clancy. And in Lindsay Clancy's civil suit, Patrick Clancy's 242 00:18:47.990 --> 00:18:53.009 mother is quoted. Patrick Clancy is quoted. It's all their 243 00:18:53.250 --> 00:18:58.759 subjective narrative of what was going on. And What I 244 00:18:58.819 --> 00:19:03.019 hope to get into in the next upcoming episodes is 245 00:19:03.579 --> 00:19:09.180 looking at the providers and seeing what kind of help 246 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:14.109 Lindsay Clancy really got. From my memory of watching the 247 00:19:14.150 --> 00:19:18.930 criminal case, she got better help than 99.9% of us. 248 00:19:20.410 --> 00:19:25.250 If that's bad help, give me some bad help. I 249 00:19:25.269 --> 00:19:28.559 don't have my provider's. checking in on me, making sure 250 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:37.789 that I made so-and-so date with X provider. Okay. Back 251 00:19:37.849 --> 00:19:42.990 to Rosemary Scarpaccio. She says, Lindsay Clancy desperately wants to 252 00:19:43.009 --> 00:19:43.990 be with her children. 253 00:19:44.750 --> 00:19:45.049 She is. 254 00:19:45.529 --> 00:19:46.430 She doesn't want to be here. 255 00:19:46.650 --> 00:19:48.450 The children she murdered. 256 00:19:48.730 --> 00:19:52.539 She wants to be with her children. And so she 257 00:19:52.579 --> 00:19:56.140 has to live every day with the understanding that she 258 00:19:56.180 --> 00:19:58.759 hurt her children. And sometimes I don't know how she 259 00:19:58.779 --> 00:20:01.019 gets out of bed in the morning, but she manages 260 00:20:01.099 --> 00:20:05.079 to get through the day, and she manages to be 261 00:20:05.140 --> 00:20:05.769 able to sit through the day. 262 00:20:06.049 --> 00:20:06.329 Right? 263 00:20:06.809 --> 00:20:08.509 She doesn't know how she gets out of bed in 264 00:20:08.549 --> 00:20:11.650 the morning because she's so bereft from her own actions. 265 00:20:11.750 --> 00:20:16.740 Give me a break. If she's so upset about the 266 00:20:16.819 --> 00:20:19.980 loss of her children, why isn't she pleading guilty? Why 267 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:24.200 is she suing everyone who tried to help her and 268 00:20:24.299 --> 00:20:28.039 bent over backwards to help her? Why is she suing 269 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:33.250 all the providers that she didn't listen to and wouldn't 270 00:20:33.289 --> 00:20:37.839 take any of the medication prescribed zigzagging from provider to provider, 271 00:20:37.900 --> 00:20:42.339 looking up symptoms. Remember, Lindsay Clancy was a labor and 272 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:53.859 delivery nurse. This is her arena. Medications, postpartum depression. So 273 00:20:53.900 --> 00:20:56.180 if you want to fake something, it's really good to 274 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.779 pick something that's in your wheelhouse. 275 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:04.220 Trial in the way in which she did. But she's 276 00:21:04.279 --> 00:21:06.430

on a suicide watch. She's still on a suicide watch. 277 00:21:06.630 --> 00:21:09.109 And if given the opportunity, I have no doubt in 278 00:21:09.150 --> 00:21:12.130 my mind at all that she would take her own life. 279 00:21:12.730 --> 00:21:14.170 Oh, she would take her own life. 280 00:21:14.759 --> 00:21:14.990 Really? 281 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:23.700 But she won't plead guilty. Instead, she retracted. So the 282 00:21:23.779 --> 00:21:25.250 first trial. 283 00:21:29.829 --> 00:21:32.190 She essentially conceded that she did it, but she said 284 00:21:32.250 --> 00:21:34.930 she did it because she was mentally unwell. Then we 285 00:21:34.990 --> 00:21:40.450 saw a hearing and Kevin Reddington, her innocence fraudster, in 286 00:21:40.490 --> 00:21:44.910 my opinion, defense lawyer, said, oh no, we never conceded 287 00:21:44.950 --> 00:21:49.839 that she did it. And they are crowdfunding ideas, meaning 288 00:21:49.880 --> 00:21:53.619 they're picking up ideas from TikTok. They tried to have 289 00:21:53.660 --> 00:21:58.259 a witness come in from TikTok during the trial, didn't work, 290 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:04.589 but They're getting this idea that Patrick Clancy might have 291 00:22:04.609 --> 00:22:09.309 done it and then pushed her out the second story window. 292 00:22:09.329 --> 00:22:11.730 I mean, if you're going to try to hurt your wife, 293 00:22:11.769 --> 00:22:18.519 what a dumb way to do it, but okay. So 294 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:25.579 getting into... Getting into. 295 00:22:29.630 --> 00:22:39.920 Lindsay Clancy's civil suit. So you can see who she's 296 00:22:40.019 --> 00:22:47.750 suing here. She's suing Jennifer Tufts, Aliyah Goodheart, M.D., Dr. 297 00:22:48.230 --> 00:22:54.890 Jobetta M. Diaz, Rebecca Gelata, and Aster Mental Health, Inc. 298 00:22:54.970 --> 00:23:00.519 These are all the systems. McLean Hospital. That's the hospital 299 00:23:00.619 --> 00:23:07.369 that Girl Interrupted was based on, that the author went to. 300 00:23:07.380 --> 00:23:12.250 A lot of famous people have been treated there. It 301 00:23:12.549 --> 00:23:19.750 is world-renowned. So they go through all the jurisdictions, and 302 00:23:19.789 --> 00:23:24.130 then they go to facts about Lindsay Clancy was raised 303 00:23:24.170 --> 00:23:28.119 in Connecticut. She had great grades. She had a nine-year 304 00:23:28.180 --> 00:23:33.500 tenure as a labor and delivery nurse at Massachusetts General Hospital, 305 00:23:34.859 --> 00:23:41.029 demonstrated notable professional competence and personal fulfillment. She was passionate 306 00:23:41.069 --> 00:23:46.309 about nursing. There's that passion again. She married Patrick Clancy 307 00:23:46.329 --> 00:23:48.970 in December 2016. They had three children, Cora on Christmas 308 00:23:48.990 --> 00:24:00.349 Eve 2017, dawson on september 30th 2019 and callan baby 309 00:24:00.410 --> 00:24:07.430 callan he was born may 26 2022 as described by 310 00:24:07.490 --> 00:24:11.660 patrick clancy before lindsey became ill she was dedicated to 311 00:24:11.700 --> 00:24:15.400 being a mom even over dedicated see guys she was 312 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:20.440 too good a mom she worked twice as hard as 313 00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:23.440 most how does she know that she worked twice as 314 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:29.009 hard as most How did she figure that out, that 315 00:24:29.049 --> 00:24:31.779 she was working twice as hard as most as a mom? 316 00:24:32.839 --> 00:24:36.460 She rarely took a break to rest. Lindsay loved our 317 00:24:36.539 --> 00:24:39.720 children and never took her frustrations out on the kids. 318 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:44.539 She remained as affectionate with the kids as always until 319 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:51.059 she decided to strangle them. Lindsay's mother-in-law, so that was 320 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:55.289 Patrick Clancy's narrative. Did everybody get that? that before Lindsay 321 00:24:55.329 --> 00:24:58.890 became ill, she worked twice as hard. She was just 322 00:24:58.910 --> 00:25:04.730 like the most incredible mom ever until the medication came 323 00:25:04.819 --> 00:25:09.839 in and changed her morality, changed her attitude towards her 324 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:16.599 kids totally. When have we ever seen that happen? I 325 00:25:16.660 --> 00:25:20.920 do believe mental illness can change your behavior, but show 326 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:28.849 me where it can change your morality. Show me how 327 00:25:29.130 --> 00:25:33.190 mental illness can turn a loving mother into a murderous 328 00:25:33.250 --> 00:25:37.589 mother who can strangle her kids for four to seven minutes. 329 00:25:38.150 --> 00:25:41.289 Any time she could have, especially in the beginning of 330 00:25:41.329 --> 00:25:48.049 strangling them, it's a very personal and aggressive way, up-close 331 00:25:48.109 --> 00:25:53.980 way to murder. It's usually thought to be someone related 332 00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:59.960 or known to the victim when we see strangulations. Not always, 333 00:26:00.460 --> 00:26:05.700 but often. Lindsay's mother. Okay, so now we have another Clancy. 334 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:12.910 Susan Clancy. According to Patrick Clancy, his parents just are 335 00:26:12.990 --> 00:26:17.130 terrible drinkers. That's what he's writing on Reddit. Testified in 336 00:26:17.190 --> 00:26:22.329 grand jury proceedings that she loved everything about Lindsay. She 337 00:26:22.369 --> 00:26:25.859 was fun-loving, doting wife and mother. She loved her kids, 338 00:26:25.940 --> 00:26:28.859 and she was a nurturing mother who smiled all the time. 339 00:26:29.509 --> 00:26:34.690 So it's very interesting that both Patrick Clancy told investigators 340 00:26:34.789 --> 00:26:37.980 that he got along great with his wife, that they 341 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.359 told each other they loved each other about 10 times 342 00:26:41.460 --> 00:26:45.200 a day, that they had these habitual hugs every morning,

343 00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.500 that they said, I love you as a reflex. So 344 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:53.339 it's always these things that like tangible things. Well, I 345 00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.119 know she loved me because she told me she loved 346 00:26:55.140 --> 00:27:00.569 me often. And then we had these hugs. We knew 347 00:27:00.950 --> 00:27:07.019 Lindsay was a nurturing, fun-loving, doting wife and mother who 348 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:12.279 loved her kids because she smiled all the time. But 349 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:16.039 what about the times when she was really stressed out 350 00:27:16.099 --> 00:27:22.460 and struggling? What happened there? Lindsay's sister, Alison Olga, described 351 00:27:22.529 --> 00:27:25.069 Lindsay as the kind of person who cares deeply for 352 00:27:25.109 --> 00:27:28.730 the people she loves. She shows up for the celebrations. 353 00:27:29.670 --> 00:27:34.130 and writes handwritten notes to show her love and appreciation. 354 00:27:35.500 --> 00:27:39.180 Or maybe she writes handwritten notes because she can't really 355 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:43.599 feel love and she has to fake it. And it's 356 00:27:43.619 --> 00:27:45.599 better to fake it in a note than fake it 357 00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:49.849 in person. She's also there in times of need and 358 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.890 finds just the right words to provide comfort and support. 359 00:27:54.170 --> 00:28:00.940 Or does she echo hollow platitudes? to comfort and support people. 360 00:28:01.579 --> 00:28:05.079 Lindsay consistent. Lindsay, see now we're on a first name basis, 361 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:09.539 not Ms. Clancy. We're all on a first name basis. 362 00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:14.420 Thanks to this civil suit with baby killer, Lindsay Clancy. 363 00:28:15.140 --> 00:28:19.240 Lindsay Clancy consistently conveyed profound affection for her children and 364 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.569 her husband. She has never previously engaged in any form 365 00:28:22.609 --> 00:28:24.200 of physical harm towards her children. 366 00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:25.369 Really? 367 00:28:27.230 --> 00:28:32.849 Really? Because I... happened to remember this testimony from the trial. 368 00:28:34.109 --> 00:28:38.599 And this is Christopher Clancy, Patrick Clancy's father. And he 369 00:28:38.650 --> 00:28:44.119 talks about a Thanksgiving holiday where he witnessed some behavior 370 00:28:44.180 --> 00:28:48.559 from Lindsay Clancy in regards to Callan, who again, she 371 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.359 described as one of the most difficult humans she'd ever 372 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.619 encountered on social media. That's her three-year-old. Dawson was the 373 00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:02.339 middle child. Take a listen to Christopher Clancy regarding this 374 00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:04.119 Thanksgiving holiday. Yes, I did. 375 00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:06.220 And can you describe that interaction, please? 376 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.180 She was getting a little frustrated. Dawson was being a 377 00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:15.000 little silly, and she was trying to get him to 378 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.440 sit down. And she was just a little bit frustrated 379 00:29:18.460 --> 00:29:20.960 with him, and I noticed it. So I got up 380 00:29:21.019 --> 00:29:23.740 to help her. 381 00:29:24.289 --> 00:29:29.420 How frustrated was she? She was so frustrated that you 382 00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:34.230 noted it. But because he's on the Clancy, we're going 383 00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:36.390 to get a lot of money. It's not enough to 384 00:29:36.450 --> 00:29:41.990 get a million seventy five and GoFundMe money. he'd already 385 00:29:42.029 --> 00:29:46.210 taken out life insurance on the children to put them 386 00:29:46.269 --> 00:29:52.079 to rest. He said he needed the funds to bury 387 00:29:52.119 --> 00:30:02.730 the children. He also traveled the world alone. went all over, 388 00:30:02.750 --> 00:30:07.109 I believe, with some of that GoFundMe money, which I 389 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:10.170 find a very odd action to want to travel the 390 00:30:10.210 --> 00:30:14.299 world after your three children are murdered. It's more of 391 00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.220 an action you see someone do maybe after a divorce. 392 00:30:19.539 --> 00:30:25.369 He did divorce Lindsay Clancy. And Lindsay Clancy, when she 393 00:30:25.410 --> 00:30:28.549 was in the hospital, one of the first things she 394 00:30:28.589 --> 00:30:32.680 did was get Patrick Clancy removed as her Emergency contact. 395 00:30:33.220 --> 00:30:39.140 So she knew the marriage was over. But what did, what, 396 00:30:40.529 --> 00:30:43.349 he says it was nothing crazy. Let's take a listen. 397 00:30:43.369 --> 00:30:45.789 You saw her getting frustrated with him. Did you see 398 00:30:46.049 --> 00:30:47.890 her do something to get him seated? 399 00:30:48.410 --> 00:30:50.690 She took him by the arm to get him seated. 400 00:30:51.069 --> 00:30:55.789 It wasn't anything crazy. She took him by the arm. 401 00:30:56.410 --> 00:30:59.880 I think she grabbed his arm very harshly and pulled 402 00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:04.180 him to his seat. Wasn't anything crazy. There is an 403 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.349 admission in the negative. It was crazy. I noticed it. 404 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:13.720 It was aggressive. That's my take. What's your take on that? 405 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:19.119 And if I were the prosecution, I believe Christopher Clancy 406 00:31:19.220 --> 00:31:22.789 is the one most likely to break in the Clancy family. 407 00:31:23.730 --> 00:31:26.869 He saw stuff. He knows. They all saw stuff. They 408 00:31:26.990 --> 00:31:34.630 all know. When the story is contradicts everything we know 409 00:31:34.730 --> 00:31:40.910 about human behavior and life uh and it's it's a 410 00:31:41.089 --> 00:31:43.710 fairy tale they wanted they're putting out it was like 411 00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.940 we you know patrick

clancy's writing it was like love 412 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.019 at first sight it was it was that you only 413 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:51.279 see in the movies it was so amazing she was 414 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:56.440 twice as good a mother as anyone she's so dedicated 415 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:02.910 she was so amazing until that medication didn't get in 416 00:32:02.930 --> 00:32:05.269 her system or did get in her system or she 417 00:32:05.289 --> 00:32:11.140 didn't get the help she needed? Which is it? And 418 00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:15.700 I thought it was particularly interesting when Patrick Clancy testified 419 00:32:15.779 --> 00:32:20.619 regarding Lindsay Clancy telling him, lying to him and saying, 420 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:26.029 I'm thinking about going on Zoloft. And notice that he 421 00:32:26.049 --> 00:32:28.069 has no reaction to the fact that this was a 422 00:32:28.089 --> 00:32:31.890 total lie and that she already had the Zoloft. And 423 00:32:31.930 --> 00:32:35.099 then it goes into how he was asked to sleep 424 00:32:35.140 --> 00:32:39.079 in the basement because she wasn't sleeping, according to Lindsay Clancy. 425 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:47.019 And then he's asked, did you ever see her not sleeping? Oh, no, no, no. 426 00:32:47.059 --> 00:32:49.859 I never saw her having trouble sleeping. But I slept 427 00:32:49.900 --> 00:32:51.559 there two nights and then she took over. 428 00:32:54.369 --> 00:32:56.549 When you were at that wedding, do you recall having 429 00:32:56.589 --> 00:33:03.079 a conversation with Lindsay about medication? Yes. What did she 430 00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:03.559 say to you? 431 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.750 We were walking downtown and she said, I think I'm 432 00:33:08.789 --> 00:33:09.990 going to start taking Zoloft. 433 00:33:10.910 --> 00:33:12.730 And did she tell you why she wanted to start 434 00:33:12.769 --> 00:33:13.609 taking Zoloft? 435 00:33:14.190 --> 00:33:15.009 She said, I think it's. 436 00:33:14.930 --> 00:33:18.380 Really going to help with my anxiety and with going back. 437 00:33:18.900 --> 00:33:24.819 Now she's blaming Zoloft for throwing her into a manic 438 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:32.289 state due to her newly discovered bipolar one. LOL. 439 00:33:32.690 --> 00:33:35.289 I mean, okay. 440 00:33:35.809 --> 00:33:37.430 Just take a listen to this testimony. 441 00:33:37.710 --> 00:33:39.529 And did she tell you how she was going to 442 00:33:39.849 --> 00:33:41.289 go about getting Zoloft? 443 00:33:43.230 --> 00:33:48.529 Yeah. I, I, um, I asked her, how are you 444 00:33:48.549 --> 00:33:50.269 going to get Zoloft? It's a prescription. 445 00:33:50.289 --> 00:33:53.170 And she said, you know, usually just ask the doctor 446 00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:55.690 and they'll give it to you. 447 00:33:55.910 --> 00:33:56.089 Right. 448 00:33:56.130 --> 00:33:58.609 I'm a nurse. They know what I, they know that 449 00:33:58.650 --> 00:33:59.569 this is my arena. 450 00:33:59.589 --> 00:33:59.670 Yeah. 451 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.200 I just ask for a prescription and I get it. 452 00:34:04.029 --> 00:34:07.130 They just give it to you. And now I'm going 453 00:34:07.150 --> 00:34:11.829 to go seek out care providers and they're going to 454 00:34:11.929 --> 00:34:13.969 bend over backwards to help me and I'm going to 455 00:34:14.030 --> 00:34:17.119 bamboozle them and I'm not going to listen to anything 456 00:34:17.139 --> 00:34:20.460 they say. I'm going to be seeing two providers at once. 457 00:34:20.539 --> 00:34:23.539 I won't be taking the medication. But then I'm going 458 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.139 to kill my kids and say they should have known. 459 00:34:27.139 --> 00:34:32.150 It's their fault. Not my husband, who I told, according 460 00:34:32.190 --> 00:34:39.139 to her, that she was thinking of harming the kids. 461 00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:51.559 Not her mother. They didn't raise an alarm. Patrick Clancy 462 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.769 should be suing himself if he wants to sue anyone. 463 00:34:57.389 --> 00:35:00.619 They tell you, that she was going to see a psychiatrist? 464 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:05.000 Yeah, I believe so. 465 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.980 And when she did that, did she tell you who 466 00:35:09.019 --> 00:35:12.760 she was going to see? No. Did you eventually learn 467 00:35:12.780 --> 00:35:14.719 the name of the person who she went to see? 468 00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:16.949 Months later, yeah. 469 00:35:17.610 --> 00:35:18.179 And who was that? 470 00:35:19.570 --> 00:35:20.210 Jennifer Tufts. 471 00:35:21.650 --> 00:35:25.090 And did Lindsay tell you when she started seeing Dr. 472 00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:25.789 Jennifer Tufts? 473 00:35:27.429 --> 00:35:27.530 No. 474 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:33.440 Did you learn or strike that? Did Lindsay tell you 475 00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.750 when she received the medication and when she started it? 476 00:35:37.829 --> 00:35:37.969 No. 477 00:35:38.809 --> 00:35:44.969 I mean, I should correct that. It's not exactly. 478 00:35:45.989 --> 00:35:50.789 Well, let me just ask a question first. When did 479 00:35:50.809 --> 00:35:54.300 you have a conversation with Lindsay about the medication she 480 00:35:54.340 --> 00:35:54.659 was on? 481 00:35:55.469 --> 00:35:55.949 Eventually. 482 00:35:55.989 --> 00:35:56.179 Yeah. 483 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:57.840 But I didn't know the start date. Okay. 484 00:35:58.460 --> 00:36:02.579 And so, When did this conversation take place, this eventual conversation? 485 00:36:04.659 --> 00:36:06.019 Probably the end of October. 486 00:36:06.039 --> 00:36:06.119 Okay. 487 00:36:07.260 --> 00:36:10.300 And at that point, what did Lindsay tell you about 488 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.590 the medication and how she was taking it? 489 00:36:15.590 --> 00:36:17.949 I don't remember exactly, but I learned that she was 490 00:36:17.969 --> 00:36:26.110 taking the Zoloft, and I don't remember really too

much 491 00:36:26.769 --> 00:36:30.050 about it after that. She was just taking it and 492 00:36:30.340 --> 00:36:31.190 we were seeing how it went. 493 00:36:33.090 --> 00:36:39.289 And did you notice any changes in her physically during 494 00:36:39.329 --> 00:36:41.550 that time frame that she was on it and you 495 00:36:41.570 --> 00:36:42.230 weren't aware she. 496 00:36:42.150 --> 00:36:42.539 Was on it? 497 00:36:45.050 --> 00:36:46.550 At the time, no, I don't think I did. 498 00:36:48.329 --> 00:36:52.429 And did you notice any changes in her emotionally during 499 00:36:52.469 --> 00:36:54.849 that time when she was on it but you weren't 500 00:36:54.889 --> 00:36:55.650 aware she was on it? 501 00:36:57.090 --> 00:37:00.070 Um, yeah, uh, she wasn't really improving. 502 00:37:00.210 --> 00:37:03.849 She just kind of seems, um, to be gradually becoming more, 503 00:37:04.690 --> 00:37:05.829 more in like a depressed state. 504 00:37:06.889 --> 00:37:10.079 Right. She just started complaining about new symptoms to me 505 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:13.599 all the time. New symptoms that she was quiet. She 506 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:20.659 was stressed out. She was really struggling, but how we 507 00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:28.179 don't know. According to her, she couldn't even talk at 508 00:37:28.340 --> 00:37:41.530 Cora's birthday party. Patrick described that she had manic behavior 509 00:37:41.590 --> 00:37:44.030 for multiple days after Dawson's birth. 510 00:37:46.929 --> 00:37:47.409 Oh, wow. 511 00:37:47.929 --> 00:37:52.690 After her second pregnancy, anxiety emerged approximately two months postpartum. 512 00:37:53.250 --> 00:37:57.190 Although Lindsay was offered Zoloft by a psychiatrist, this is 513 00:37:57.250 --> 00:38:01.960 her civil suit, she declined due to concerns about breastfeeding. 514 00:38:02.019 --> 00:38:06.940 Her symptoms resolved through exercise, healthy diet, and meditation, and 515 00:38:07.019 --> 00:38:13.429 several therapy sessions. Strangely, it didn't work with Callan. Remember 516 00:38:13.449 --> 00:38:18.570 she was doing the Beachbody multi-level marketing. 517 00:38:19.650 --> 00:38:19.889 Thing? 518 00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:27.789 Her symptoms resolved that these postpartum, prior postpartum episodes. And 519 00:38:27.809 --> 00:38:31.550 I mean, it goes even crazy. It just gets after 520 00:38:31.610 --> 00:38:36.289 increasing the Zoloft dose from 25 to 50. Then it 521 00:38:36.309 --> 00:38:41.750 goes into Prozac and McLean's. Everyone's to blame except Lindsay Clancy. 522 00:38:43.769 --> 00:38:47.900 But let's go to, but listen to his reaction. Like, 523 00:38:47.940 --> 00:38:51.349 was that a lie? Yes, it was a lie. But 524 00:38:51.369 --> 00:38:54.969 she was really struggling. I'm never going to stray from 525 00:38:55.010 --> 00:38:58.130 this narrative because this is the narrative to bring me 526 00:38:59.340 --> 00:39:00.179 the big bucks. 527 00:39:02.500 --> 00:39:05.019 And how was that manifesting? What were you noticing? 528 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.119 It was just small things. 529 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:11.639 Nothing's bringing my children back, but I can still make 530 00:39:11.699 --> 00:39:13.389 another million from their murder. 531 00:39:15.190 --> 00:39:18.090 I was planning a trip with Cora to San Francisco 532 00:39:18.190 --> 00:39:23.840 and she was nervous about us going. And, um, I 533 00:39:25.179 --> 00:39:30.760 remember we went to a Halloween event and, um, just 534 00:39:30.820 --> 00:39:32.980 leading up to it I remember she was it just 535 00:39:33.019 --> 00:39:34.440 kind of seemed like she didn't want to go for 536 00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:35.139 some reason. 537 00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:39.099 Okay wow so if I don't want to if I'm 538 00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:46.090 I'm a nervous traveler does that mean I'm really struggling 539 00:39:46.110 --> 00:39:50.639 I mean I haven't wanted to go to certain parties. 540 00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:58.119 Does that mean I'm struggling with undiagnosed bipolar one, postpartum psychosis, 541 00:39:58.179 --> 00:40:01.909 postpartum depression? What is it? It's hard to keep track. 542 00:40:02.090 --> 00:40:06.250 It's just not well, not Lindsay's fault. So if we 543 00:40:06.309 --> 00:40:12.320 had like a wheel, like a wheel of fortune, is 544 00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:18.960 it postpartum psychosis? Whose fault is it? blame the postpartum 545 00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.559 psychosis the voice she only heard once and never to 546 00:40:22.619 --> 00:40:27.420 be heard again although we get into her civil suit 547 00:40:27.460 --> 00:40:33.210 talks about these hallucinations that were never discussed during the 548 00:40:33.230 --> 00:40:37.829 criminal trial but this voice told her that it was 549 00:40:37.869 --> 00:40:42.800 her last chance to murder her children this voice she 550 00:40:42.889 --> 00:40:45.039 never she had no relationship with this voice she didn't 551 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:52.579 know who it was Could have been someone calling from 552 00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:59.070 some voice from a mental health facility. Crazy, crazy voice. 553 00:41:00.449 --> 00:41:02.530 But she's going to listen to it. And it's the 554 00:41:02.630 --> 00:41:06.630 last chance. Last chances are usually connected with good things. 555 00:41:07.429 --> 00:41:11.309 Last chance to save at a sale. Last chance to 556 00:41:11.369 --> 00:41:17.289 save your marriage. Last chance. Not something repulsive. Last chance 557 00:41:17.329 --> 00:41:18.250 to kill your kids. 558 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:18.969 Great. 559 00:41:18.989 --> 00:41:19.380 Great. 560 00:41:20.539 --> 00:41:24.400 You mean if I don't have to do anything, you 561 00:41:24.420 --> 00:41:26.860 won't bother me anymore if I don't murder my kids? 562 00:41:27.260 --> 00:41:27.739 Great. 563 00:41:30.659 --> 00:41:33.090 Why couldn't Lindsay Clancy answer like that? 564 00:41:38.010 --> 00:41:43.260 Now, do you recall

learning that she had actually obtained 565 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.280 the prescription the day before she told you she was 566 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:47.659 going to. 567 00:41:47.739 --> 00:41:50.059 Ask for the prescription? I did later learn that, yeah. 568 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:50.199 Okay. 569 00:41:50.820 --> 00:41:54.510 So she's telling you at the wedding that she is 570 00:41:54.550 --> 00:41:56.570 going to ask to take this medication and going to 571 00:41:56.610 --> 00:41:58.690 see a psychiatrist to get on that medication, but she 572 00:41:58.750 --> 00:42:01.090 actually already had the prescription. Is that correct? 573 00:42:01.650 --> 00:42:01.929 Correct. 574 00:42:01.949 --> 00:42:03.510 I don't think she started taking it yet, but she 575 00:42:03.530 --> 00:42:03.949 already had it. 576 00:42:03.949 --> 00:42:04.510 Okay. 577 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:11.739 So she lied. But look at his face. The real 578 00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:17.400 anger is reserved for the prosecution. We know that Patrick 579 00:42:17.420 --> 00:42:24.190 Clancy had written on Reddit, If he's a witness in 580 00:42:24.250 --> 00:42:28.989 a case, can he call out the prosecution's lies? He 581 00:42:29.010 --> 00:42:32.210 was like a hostile witness in this case. And it 582 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:34.679 was really like he was testifying for the defense. 583 00:42:41.099 --> 00:42:48.539 And did Lindsay tell you how long she took the 584 00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:49.340 medication for? 585 00:42:51.969 --> 00:42:52.570 She may have. 586 00:42:53.269 --> 00:42:57.010 Um, I don't remember the exact timeframe. I just remember 587 00:42:57.070 --> 00:42:58.789 she took it for a period of time and then 588 00:42:59.769 --> 00:43:02.769 her sleep started to suffer. So she stopped taking it. 589 00:43:04.460 --> 00:43:05.820 Oh, wow. 590 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.420 It's almost like she's making things up and zigzagging and 591 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.760 making up new symptoms and reactions. Everything reacts badly for 592 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.219 Lindsay Clancy. You notice nothing works. 593 00:43:19.659 --> 00:43:24.360 And did she tell you whether or not she spoke 594 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.699 to her provider, her doctor, about the troubles she was having? 595 00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:29.710 I believe so, yeah. 596 00:43:30.829 --> 00:43:35.250 And did she tell you, did Lindsay tell you that 597 00:43:35.590 --> 00:43:38.550 she was advised to double the dose of the Zoloft? 598 00:43:39.989 --> 00:43:44.440 She may have. I don't remember. Page 31. 599 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.400 I thought this was the love of your life that 600 00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:51.440 you only... have this kind of love, see this kind 601 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:52.820 of love in movies. 602 00:43:53.980 --> 00:43:57.800 Yeah, apparently she did. 603 00:43:57.820 --> 00:43:57.980 Yeah. 604 00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.099 I guess she did, yeah. 605 00:44:18.659 --> 00:44:21.440 So now we're going to get into her lack of sleep. 606 00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.480 She just announces that she can't sleep. Did you ever 607 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:27.219 see Lindsay Clancy not being able to sleep? 608 00:44:27.340 --> 00:44:27.619 No. 609 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.059 But he's going to move down to the basement anyway 610 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.260 with the baby monitor for Corin Dawson because she's such 611 00:44:38.300 --> 00:44:38.840 a dedicated mother. 612 00:44:38.860 --> 00:44:42.230 Did you notice any changes in her sleep during that 613 00:44:42.289 --> 00:44:44.389 time when she was on the medication but you weren't 614 00:44:44.409 --> 00:44:45.210 aware she was on it? 615 00:44:47.409 --> 00:44:48.150 Eventually, yeah. 616 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:49.619 When was that? 617 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.579 I don't remember the exact dates. 618 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:58.440 But she just, you know, one night she said, do 619 00:44:58.500 --> 00:45:01.590 you mind? She started it by saying, I'm not mad 620 00:45:01.619 --> 00:45:04.610 or anything, but do you mind sleeping in the basement. 621 00:45:05.769 --> 00:45:07.969 And letting me just sleep in our room with Callan? 622 00:45:08.130 --> 00:45:09.989 And then you can take the monitors down in the basement, 623 00:45:10.030 --> 00:45:13.670 and if Cora and Dawson get up, you can get 624 00:45:13.710 --> 00:45:14.110 up with them. 625 00:45:15.130 --> 00:45:18.510 So there's Lindsay Clancy working twice as hard as an editor. 626 00:45:19.409 --> 00:45:23.150 Most mothers, right? Farming off the care of her children 627 00:45:23.190 --> 00:45:30.789 to her husband. You take the baby monitors. I don't 628 00:45:30.809 --> 00:45:34.090 want to be bothered. I don't want to be woken up. 629 00:45:34.989 --> 00:45:37.590 I don't want to do any mothering. And remember, that's 630 00:45:37.630 --> 00:45:40.699 what she was most grateful for. When Patrick Clancy takes 631 00:45:40.780 --> 00:45:46.059 the big kids, she liked the babies. They couldn't defy 632 00:45:46.099 --> 00:45:47.099 her yet. 633 00:45:51.659 --> 00:45:53.300 She said, I've just been having a lot of trouble 634 00:45:53.340 --> 00:45:58.760 sleeping and I'm hoping that like if there's less in 635 00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.920 and out, then there'll be less disruption. 636 00:46:02.980 --> 00:46:05.480 Had you noticed prior to her telling you this that 637 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.130 she was up a lot or having trouble sleeping, like 638 00:46:08.190 --> 00:46:09.369 physically seeing her awake? 639 00:46:10.750 --> 00:46:12.150 No, not that I recall. 640 00:46:12.690 --> 00:46:14.630 And did you in fact start sleeping in the basement 641 00:46:14.670 --> 00:46:15.530 for a period of time? 642 00:46:16.050 --> 00:46:17.510 I think I did it for like two nights and 643 00:46:17.550 --> 00:46:19.349 then she actually went down in the basement. 644 00:46:19.989 --> 00:46:21.969 Okay, so then you went back up

to your bedroom 645 00:46:21.989 --> 00:46:22.849 to sleep, is that correct? 646 00:46:22.889 --> 00:46:23.110 Yeah. 647 00:46:23.570 --> 00:46:26.099 And how long did Lindsay sleep in the basement for 648 00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:26.619 after that? 649 00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:30.019 Maybe a couple weeks. 650 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:33.679 And so during that time frame, was she telling you 651 00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.460 that she was still having trouble sleeping? 652 00:46:36.179 --> 00:46:40.570 Yes. Right, but you never saw it, right? Listen to 653 00:46:40.690 --> 00:46:48.090 Attorney Sprague's. Jennifer Sprague's questions here. 654 00:46:48.110 --> 00:46:50.820 You weren't actually down there watching her sleep. You're getting 655 00:46:50.860 --> 00:46:52.360 this information from her, correct? 656 00:46:52.659 --> 00:46:52.960 Correct. 657 00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:02.219 So why wasn't the prosecution's theory, the real, I believe 658 00:47:02.260 --> 00:47:06.170 the accurate theory of this case, so Lindsay Clancy wanted 659 00:47:06.210 --> 00:47:10.909 to murder her kids. She gave up her nursing license already. 660 00:47:10.969 --> 00:47:15.110 Like it's nothing. She hated her job. She hated her marriage. 661 00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:20.869 And she plotted out, she knew the Andrea Yates case, 662 00:47:22.769 --> 00:47:29.670 and she plotted out this madness, madness, faux feigned, faux 663 00:47:30.489 --> 00:47:39.429 fraudulent madness to give herself an alibi. Because I don't 664 00:47:39.489 --> 00:47:43.949 believe Lindsay Clancy hates being in a mental health facility. 665 00:47:44.849 --> 00:47:48.849 This is her arena. This is where she's comfortable in hospitals. 666 00:47:49.210 --> 00:47:51.659 She knows how to get over. She knows how to manipulate. 667 00:47:52.010 --> 00:47:58.099 She knows the right things to say. But I will 668 00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:03.400 be continuing. This is the first part in the series. 669 00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:06.610 Who helped Lindsay Clancy? I'm going to be looking at 670 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:12.710 the civil case and looking at the particular claims in 671 00:48:12.750 --> 00:48:18.030 that case and comparing it and contrasting it against the 672 00:48:18.070 --> 00:48:21.070 testimony of the providers that we saw in the criminal 673 00:48:21.110 --> 00:48:27.269 case that ended, spoiler alert, that criminal case ended in 674 00:48:27.289 --> 00:48:32.610 a mistrial with 11 jurors willing to acquit Lindsay Clancy 675 00:48:34.809 --> 00:48:38.090 on grounds that she was not guilty by reason of 676 00:48:38.170 --> 00:48:44.269 insanity and one lone juror who has the opinion that 677 00:48:44.389 --> 00:48:50.570 I have Said she's guilty. Doesn't matter if she says 678 00:48:50.630 --> 00:48:54.929 she's struggling. We're all struggling. And we don't murder our kids. 679 00:48:55.710 --> 00:49:00.940 So that is what I have for today, guys. Please 680 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.659 hit the thumbs up. It really helps with the algorithm. 681 00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.400 Leave me a comment. Leave me an emoji. Just say hi. 682 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:16.000 I do read all the comments. This is a listener-supported channel. Venmo, 683 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:19.309 buy me a coffee, Patreon, all great ways to support 684 00:49:19.349 --> 00:49:23.539 the channel. Link is in this episode's description and every 685 00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:27.800 episode's description. Have a great night, everyone. I will see 686 00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:32.159 you back here at 6 p.m. Eastern very soon. 687 00:49:44.929 --> 00:49:48.980 Mic check, Roberta strides through the static haze. True crime, Gotham, 688 00:49:49.019 --> 00:49:51.800 where the shadows play their plays. Frauds unfold when a 689 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:57.539 spotlight beams. Fact-focused queen busting propaganda schemes. Glass shatter, lies 690 00:49:57.619 --> 00:49:58.679 echoes through the streets. 691 00:49:58.980 --> 00:50:03.550 Standing for victims, giving voice their beats. NYC polls, truth 692 00:50:03.610 --> 00:50:14.139 sharp as night. Roberta exposing, she's the anti-fraud light. Thank you. 693 00:50:18.300 --> 00:50:23.920 hard task warrior dissecting satan defense twisted innocence claims breaking 694 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:27.960 pretense gotham's truth seeker cuts clean with the blade facts 695 00:50:28.019 --> 00:50:31.099 in the forefront no justice gets swayed cold facts drip 696 00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:35.239 heavy real talk unfurls cracking cases open like oysters with 697 00:50:35.300 --> 00:50:39.019 pearls innocence gimmicks crumble to dust in the wind for 698 00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:40.559 victims of creed. 699 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:41.639 Justice till the end. 700 00:50:52.619 --> 00:50:57.820 Headphones blazing, she drops heavy artillery. Narratives twisted, neat blunt 701 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:02.369 objects civility. Roberta got receipts that unravel the ploy. Exposing 702 00:51:02.389 --> 00:51:04.590 the lies these fraudsters deploy. 703 00:51:05.050 --> 00:51:06.690 Glass shatters lies, echoes. 704 00:51:06.489 --> 00:51:10.269 Through the streets. Standing for victims, giving voice their beats. 705 00:51:10.610 --> 00:51:14.679 NYC post, truth sharp as night. Roberta exposing, she's the 706 00:51:14.780 --> 00:51:15.800 anti-fraud light. 707 00:51:38.610 --> 00:51:39.449 Thank you.