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Hey everybody.
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This is onscreen offscreen show where we like to talk about the media we, uh, take in throughout the week, and then discuss a little bit on how it affects our lives.
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Uh, we've got a little bit of an interesting e episode for you guys this week.
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I'm gonna have Conlin talk about your first epi, your first topic, and then we're gonna do a little ranking for you guys.
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Just a quick one.
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Okay.
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Um, so I went and saw Mission Impossible, the final reckoning last night, and I have a lot of thoughts.
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I've been thinking about this kind of all day.
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It is there, there's, there's some problems with this movie, but I still highly, highly recommend if you haven't seen it, going to the theater and watching this movie, because I don't think we'll ever get anything like this ever again.
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Um, this feels like Tom Cruise knows that he's getting old.
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And he put absolutely everything to do something absolutely badass before he's done.
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That's how it felt like to me.
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everybody has talked about, and you've seen little clips of the airplane scene.
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The airplane scene is unbelievably badass and it is worth watching this whole movie just to watch that scene because it's so freaking cool.
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He is just, and you can in other scenes where he is done crazy stuff.
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I've never seen the fear on his face, but in this movie, you can see the fear and the struggle as he's holding onto this airplane as it's flying thousands of feet in the air and it is awesome.
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The whole scene is so cool.
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The part where he goes in the submarine is also so cool and it's riveting on the edge of your seat.
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It would be worth watching the movie just to watch those two scenes.
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The problem is in a lot of the other aspects of the movie.
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I'm not gonna get into huge spoilers since this just came out.
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It's a really big, it's a really big film.
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Um, with the sub marine scene.
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Every single time Tom Cruise has done something in some of these movies, you're like, that fills on the edge of impossible, but like somebody could actually pull it off.
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The end of the submarine scene feels like they pushed it too far for the first time, unfortunately, and it kind of pulls you out of the believability of the movie.
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Along with that, you have a lot of
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exposition jumps, so they do a lot of cool stuff with tying this movie in with the other franchises.
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I loved a lot of the stuff they did with that.
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I thought it was really smart.
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I thought it was well written.
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But for people who aren't fans of the series, they had to explain exactly how this tied into movie one.
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How does this tie into movie two?
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How does this tie into movie three instead of just having it happen and people having to figure it out?
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There's a cool part where they have the, um, the scientist that he robs from in the first, first movie pop up in this movie.
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But then they have to explain, and this is where he came from and this is how it happened and this is why he's and this place now.
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And it's all just, if you paid attention, you would know what happened.
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don't have to get it force fed to you.
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And there's a lot of force feeding in this movie, but along with the force feeding are a lot of coincidences where you are.
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Say how, how did that happen?
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How did the person end up there?
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They just, people, characters just kind of pop up outta nowhere.
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Where did they come from?
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What's the explanation for that?
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Um, there's a lot of information that they gather throughout both movies.
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That is not easy information to get.
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In fact, I don't know how anyone else would have this information, but the main villain somehow knows this information.
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I don't really know how, um, other foreign governments know this information.
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I don't really know how our main government knows the information.
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I don't really know how, and it leads to a movie that is wildly entertaining, but I don't think will actually age as well as most of the other mission Impossibles have.
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I would rate this movie positively on the action set pieces alone as a movie as a whole.
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I have to rewatch the second one to see if this is the worst one or the second worst, and I don't know.
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But again, I'm telling everybody to watch this movie because I don't think we will ever get a stunt like that airplane ever again.
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I don't think there's anyone else in Hollywood that would be allowed to do the stunt.
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Um, there's so many safety protocols now.
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There's so many red tape lines that Tom Cruise has been doing this for long enough that he gets to cut those red tapes and just do whatever the hell he wants.
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get to watch that and it's, it's fantastic.
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Bravo to Tom Cruise.
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Bravo for what he put together.
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Bravo for being able to do that.
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I still enjoyed the movie, but this one has a lot of problems.
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Okay, so what would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
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Um, I want to get a seven just because of the how freaking cool both of those stunts are.
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I, it might go a little bit down from that, but for now I'll give it a seven because like also with the main villain number, the, the seventh movie explains his backstory a lot and you build up this mystery of like, how does Ethan know this guy who, I can't even remember his name'cause he's kind of a lackluster villain, but none of, none, none of that gets answered in this movie.
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it feels like a lot of seven was kind of a wasted time because you don't actually get any of the answers for this movie.
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Um.
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Mission Impossible is all about doing these really clever tricks that are just beyond reality, but they're clever and he makes this kind of twist and comes up with a great idea at the very end.
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There's not really any of that in this movie and the very end of the movie, I think there's, people are gonna love the end of this movie'cause it fits with the franchise and then there are, people are going to be very lackluster about it and kind of wish it felt more final.
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And I'm one of those people, so I want to give it a seven, it might go down a little bit.
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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Now, as things sit right now, I know you said you're not sure, but there are eight Mission Impossible movies.
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What is your number eight Mission Impossible movie.
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My number eight Mission Im movie right now is number two.
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I have to rewatch it, but right now it's number two.
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Okay, number seven.
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Uh, this one,
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Number six.
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number seven.
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Number five,
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Uh, number three
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four.
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number.
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I have to, I mix up which one's?
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Rogue Nation and which ones?
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One second.
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Lemme look.
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What?
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Go ahead.
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It is five rogue nation's.
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Five.
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Rogue Nation.
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Number five.
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then I would say number five.
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Okay.
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Four.
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Number four
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Number three.
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number.
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I need to actually write down the list.
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I have said, have I said number three yet?
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No, you were going to say it around five and then you said 5, 8, 7, 6, 5.
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3 5
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2, and your all time favorite.
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is fallout'cause.
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Fallout's awesome.
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Okay, well just for everybody's edification, uh, I have not seen the new one, so I will not be rating it, but my number seven is two.
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I actually think number two is really good.
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It just doesn't fit in the series.
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It's very different and the first half is just kind of weird, um, to be honest.
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But the latter half is actually a really good movie.
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And I kind of like how it starts with him climbing on the cliff.
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Uh, then tide at number six, I have, uh, rogue Nation and tied at number six.
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I have three.
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And tied at number six, I have two.
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And tied at number six, I have one.
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And tied at number six, I have, uh.
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Four and tied at number six.
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I have five, and at number one I have fallout because guess what Everybody, every Mission Impossible is the exact same movie.
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Just pick your favorite stunt and you have your favorite Mission Impossible movie.
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I think Fallout is clearly the best one because you have just another mission, a possible movie, but with Henry Cavel this time and he does the armed shotgun thing and that alone makes it the best one.
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Henry C's fantastic.
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That movie every, I agree.
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There's a lot of similarities between the movies.
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I
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No,
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actually,
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they are all the same.
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one is quite a bit different too.
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It's much more of a.
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No, it's the same.
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A thriller type movie where it's more thought out like old school spy stuff versus the later series, which gets a little bit more, I wanna say, like Fast and the Furious
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Do you have Tom Cruise doing a stunt?
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Yes,
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Does he do an impossible stunt?
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yes,
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Does Tom Cruise, Ethan Hunt's character trust somebody from his organization who ends up betraying him?
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yes.
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Is the plot exactly that thick?
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Some of them have other aspects to
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That's
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they
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mission impossible movie.
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thing.
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They all basically do the same thing.
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Maybe this one will be your favorite, because that is not what they do.
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It does.
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In this movie,
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Oh, actually, hold on, I wanna time out.
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I want a correction.
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Uh, number seven is actually my least favorite.
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Number two is my second least favorite.
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The re are all tied down, number six, except for fallout, which is number one, uh, simply because number seven is part one.
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And it's a lot of buildup and sounds like they didn't even deliver on it, so that makes it even worse.
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Yeah, I debated having seven lowered.
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'cause I don't know, it kind of feels like you're wasting your time with some of the stuff that happens with eight.
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But I think there are different levels of good and is an aspect to like, which stunt is your favorite?
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But I like some of the side characters that are in, like, that makes a difference.
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There's what villain is in.
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It does make a difference.
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Like there are other differences than just, it's the formula.
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You can do the formula in different levels of goodness.
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Yeah, you're right.
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James Bond does it great.
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But you know what?
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The difference between James Bond and Mission Impossible is
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What?
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rate the worst.
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James Bond movie on a scale of one to 10,
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Um, like
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zero out of 10.
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It is terrible.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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the worst mission impossible for
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Number two, on a scale of one to 10.
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Six and a half.
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Okay?
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So for me personally.
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You're talking about all these differences, but all of the mission impossibles are like seven and a half and eights, all of them.
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There are some that make some slightly better.
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So if I was really doing a true list, would all of them be tied for number six?
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No.
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But like
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They're
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you're talking about microscopic between a 7.8 and a 7.9 and an 8.2, like.
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That's what you're talking about with Mission Impossible.
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I love Mission Impossible.
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Mission Impossible is my formula.
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I absolutely love them.
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They're all eights out of 10.
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I would just give number seven, like a 7.5'cause it is a lot of buildup, but there's still some cool stunts.
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And I would give number two, I guess 7.5 because it has a lot of weirdness at the beginning.
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Like the first half of that movie is essentially all the people that want to sleep with Ethan Hunt and like, I don't care.
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But it's still a fairly entertaining movie.
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And I think if it wasn't called Mission Impossible, it would be more popular.
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But
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I think if it wasn't called Mission Impossible, it would be a forgotten movie.
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I think it would be another spy movie and some people would like it and some people wouldn't.
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And you know, it would be another one of those.
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But it gets a lot of hate because it's called Mission A Possible.
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does get a lot of hate.
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I, I literally think it would be a forgotten movie.
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Yeah.
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be like, oh, Tom Cruise made that one spy movie.
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That wasn't very good.
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I forget that that one even happened.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, so like in practicality, if I apply my own logic and which one had the coolest stunts, right.
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Fallout's my favorite, rogue Nations number two.
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Uh, A three is the one where it does the laser swan dive.
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Right.
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Three would be my next favorite.
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'cause that's just iconic.
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Um, right.
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So you like I could really partition them that way.
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number one, I believe.
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Okay.
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Number one.
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Yeah.
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Uh, number one then I don't remember which one.
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'cause they're all the same plot.
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I can't separate them aside from side characters like Henry Cavel doing the shotgun thing.
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But yeah, when we're talking about the difference in mission apostles.
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All of them fall between a seven and a half and an eight and a half for me, most of them landing on right around an eight.
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And if we don't do this tense thing, they're all pretty much eights.
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So
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But I mean,
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they're all tied.
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judging just by stunts, then Ghost Protocol is the best one because the, uh, bird Koffi one that he does, where he is on the tall building in the world is the coolest stunt period.
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That's stunt is so cool.
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If, um, Jackie Chan
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The, the plane stunt in fallout is my favorite stunt.
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oh, the, the plane stunt in this new one is super cool and it has it, it's close, but.
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That stunt where he is on the tallest building in the world and he jumps out.
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The is so cool.
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If, um, Jackie Chan hadn't run down a skyscraper, that would be my favorite stunt of all time.
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But Jackie Chan ran down a freaking skyscraper and nothing's gonna beat that ever.
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Okay.
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Uh, like, but like I said, it's just pick your favorite.
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I don't think there is a correct, right.
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Best stunt or stunt.
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It's a pick your favorite stunt and you have your favorite Mission Impossible movie.
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That's the point that I'm making.
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Um, last thoughts on mission.
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I possible.
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Uh, just like go, go see the movie.
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Seriously.
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I know I said that before, but don't think anyone will be allowed to do a stunt like you see with the airplane stunt in this movie ever again.
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And you should go see that on a big theater.
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It is super cool.
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Even the rest of the movie has some let downs.
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Well, Tom Cruise is
working on seven more movies.
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By the way,
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I don't think he's gonna do anything this big.
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It felt like a, I know that I'm getting too old and I'm going to give it my absolute all to do something epic.
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I just,
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I don't think Tom Cruise has that level of logic.
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you don't think so, you think you'll go for something
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He's in Scientology.
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He leads Scientology
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I know that, but this
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calls.
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A lot of questions to logic.
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It is insane.
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I believe you.
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And I
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But even that, you said he's already done something cooler.
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I know, but this feels like a goodbye.
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That's what
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Okay.
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me.
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And
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I think it's a good buy to Ethan Hunt.
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I don't think it's a good buy to Tom Cruise doing stunts because he just loves it too much.
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Like did you know Tom Cruise got into an F1 car and within a matter of minutes was lapping almost as fast as a Formula One driver?
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Yes.
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It's insane.
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Yeah, I know.
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He's Tom freaking Cruise.
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Okay.
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He's gonna be doing insane things.
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I just don't know if it's gonna be under the Mission Impossible banner anymore.
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Huh?
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he's doing Top Gun three,
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yeah,
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so he's doing some cool stuff like
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is doing some cool stuff.
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I hope that I'm wrong.
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I kind of think that this will be the last one of this level, but hopefully I'm wrong.
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The guy is almost 63 years old,
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Yeah, but he's Top Cruise and like as for, is anybody gonna be able to do what he does?
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Yes.
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I don't think anyone he's, they're gonna be allowed to, I think Tom Cruise can do it because he is Tom Cruise.
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I don't think other people will be allowed to do it.
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Yeah, but when you don't have Tom Cruise, somebody will fill the void.
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but I don't think Hollywood will allow them to do it like he
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It's not
always up to Hollywood.
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Like what's his name from Top Gun that wants to be Tom Cruise.
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Like he's into doing his own stunts.
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Yeah,
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Like it's not like there's nobody else with any relative fame who wants to do what Tom Cruise does.
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I think a lot of the safety things will get in the way of doing what Tom Cruise does
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And Tom Cruise fired his safety guy and hired a new one so he could do what he does.
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And you don't think anybody else is gonna do that?
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I, I don't think, I don't think they'll allow, allow new actors to do that.
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I don't think they will.
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New actors know, but experienced actors Sure.
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And actors who are off doing it on their own, like.
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The guy from Top Gun, what is his name?
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He's also Twisters
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Glen close.
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Glen Powell.
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Is it Glen?
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No.
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Yep.
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Glen Powell.
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Not Glen Close.
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Glen Close is a rockstar.
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No.
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Powell is the actor.
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Is the the big douche bag type guy in in Top Gun Maverick.
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Glen Powell?
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Is it Glen Powell?
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Okay, I'm wrong.
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Yeah.
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In Dungeons and Daddies.
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His name is Glen Close after the singer.
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Glen Close.
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okay.
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Yeah, it's Clin Powell.
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You're right, you're right.
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I was wrong.
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Anyway, like he's out there already kind of starting to want to do that trend and is starting to do it.
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And like is he doing all of the things at this moment?
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No.
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But you also have like, uh, the Gorge and him, what's his name?
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Also from Tom Gunn.
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Miles Teller also doing stuff like as, as long as there's a market for it, there's gonna be somebody who's gonna wanna do it.
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think there's people who are gonna want to do it, but I think a lot of that safety stuff will get in the way.
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even, even in this movie, the uh, submarine scene is genuinely, is super cool and super tense.
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you
can tell that there was some CGI with that scene that pulled it out a little bit.
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It did.
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Yeah.
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even though
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I don't think it's safety.
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I think it's money.
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think it's money.
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Yeah.
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People do the CG stuff to save money, not to save safety.
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And when you have somebody who says, I'm paying for it and I want to do the submarine thing for real, you're gonna have people who are willing to do it and able to do it.
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Okay.
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We'll
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Like, I just, I seriously doubt that the, it's just gonna vanish as soon as Tom Tom Cruise dies.
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Like it's,
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but I don't think it'll be the same level.
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I don't think it'll be that old school.
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I just grabbed a plane in.
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The sky and held onto it while somebody did loop de loops and I just held onto the wires.
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I don't
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but people do that now without it being a movie.
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That's true, that's true.
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And maybe some other movie studios will allow them to do it, but I think Hollywood's not gonna allow'em to do it.
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I absolutely do.
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Like, look at what Red Bull does.
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They
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It's crazy.
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had somebody jump out of their own plane into another plane
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Yeah.
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and fly the other plane, like,
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jump out of a plane onto a net, they had somebody jump out of space
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yeah.
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But like I, the plain one is like a stunt and like, was there safety wires?
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No.
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Did Tom Cruise have safety wires?
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Yes.
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So like you're talking about safety and I'm like, there's somebody who's gonna want to do it.
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There's gonna be some people who wanna see it, and there's gonna be somebody who's gonna wanna pay for it.
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So like,
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It'll just keep
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it's gonna happen.
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Yeah.
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Like, yes, I get it.
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Tom Cruise is like one of a kind.
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You've only got Tom Cruise and he is just extraordinary in the way that he's extraordinary.
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Will it change?
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Yeah, I'm sure it will.
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But will you get over the top impossible level stunts in movies?
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I think so.
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okay.
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I just, there's a, there's a want for it.
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There's a desire for it.
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There's a reason that there are eight mission impossible movies, even though they just recycle the plot over and over and over again.
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All right.
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you're right, man.
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Hopefully you're right.
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All right.
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Let's
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Uh, let's,
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oh,
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yeah, let me, I'm gonna go ahead and switch over to my topic, which is actually a little bit more aligned than we traditionally are.
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Absolutely.
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independence Day, I went back and re-watched it Will Smith.
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I don't remember this movie being so long.
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Hmm.
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Like it is two and a half hours and it feels like two and a half hours.
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This is coming from somebody who will watch all the extended edition Lord of the Rings movies without even getting up to pee.
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Like I could do long, but not when it feels long.
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And, dang, this movie feels long.
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And not only is it long when you actually start and think about the overall plot, you're like, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Okay.
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Like it really doesn't, and.
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I remember loving this movie.
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I haven't seen it in a long time.
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It's a great movie.
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I'm not saying it's not great.
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It absolutely is.
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Um, it's also like, I feel like if it came out today it wouldn't be as popular, but it does get a lot of credit for the time it came out too.
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Okay.
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you also have to take that into credit.
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Um, you also have some improv stuff, which is kind of funny to me.
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So like Will Smith hitting the Alien and saying, and what the hell is that smell?
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That was improv.
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And it's because he was on the Salt Flats and nobody warned him about the decaying, um, microbiology that's in the Salt Flats that make it stink.
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So he was literally like, what is that smell?
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And he thought it was the alien.
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He thought that they made the alien stink
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That
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not just like that.
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He was in the Salt Flats.
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Um, there's the scene with Will Smith.
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Uh.
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Gold bloom and one other actor.
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And the entire scene is just them ribbing on each other and it's all improv.
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And you know, kudos to them for that as well.
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Uh, I don't have any like, big plot holes.
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It's just not like a super deep thing.
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Okay.
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Uh, I forgot that it was the farmer guy who killed himself.
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So I thought the president was going to, and I thought, what a terrible thing to do in this movie.
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The president is going to leave that child without a single parent alive.
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And then the cowboy or the farmer guy does it, and you have a moment of relief.
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And then I thought to myself, he just did the same freaking thing.
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He just left his kids without any, any parent, not a one.
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And he has three kids.
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And his parent, his kids aren't gonna be taken care of.
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Like the president's daughter would be like, um.
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Overall, it's a pretty good movie.
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Like I still really enjoyed it.
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Um, this was like, I can feel the passion that went into this.
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Mm-hmm.
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somebody really wanted to make it very, very cool.
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Um, I would give it like a 7.8 out of 10.
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Like it's so close to that eight.
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I just don't think I can give it that eight because I don't know how easily I would go back and rewatch it simply because of how long it was.
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Um, then I went in and turned on Independence Day Reckoning, which was a movie I don't remember ever knowing even existed and I think I figured out why.
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Um, it's not very long.
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Uh, it's got some really big actors in it.
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I think all of the special effects look fantastic.
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I just saw the worst acting I have ever seen in anything tied with a bunch of really good actors phoning it in, like I felt like Jeff Goldblum was phoning it in.
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I am a fan of Liam Hemsworth.
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I think he's a, a really good actor actually.
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And
even he, I was like, dude, are you even trying with this acting?
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'cause he is sitting there flag a spaceship and he goes, I can't see them.
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And I'm like, you're barely moving your head, my guy.
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Uh, specifically if you want to see like the worst acting you've ever seen in your entire life, there's the scene where the scientist from the first one is in a coma and wakes up and is scared that another person who he's never seen before is like face to face with him.
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He starts screaming and the other actor goes, ah.
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I'm like, do you know what the budget was for this movie?
00:27:09.730 --> 00:27:17.740
And that's all you came up with was, ah, I could act better than that and I am not an actor at anyway.
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And you just went, ah uh, and then you have like this stupid moment where the doctor is dying and the scientist from the first one goes up to him and is like, no, don't die.
00:27:32.170 --> 00:27:36.430
And he's like, who's gonna water your plants?
00:27:36.940 --> 00:27:37.720
Who's gonna?
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And you're like, why are we watching this?
00:27:43.990 --> 00:27:46.509
Why does the scientist from the first one care?
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I don't know.
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Because he didn't know him before and just met him when he woke up from his coma while this guy was obsessing over him.
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Seemingly, and like.
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It's not very well thought out either.
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'cause it is a direct sequel and it's like what if they humans had technology from the aliens and they actually do a really good job of that sometimes.
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But also if you really think about it, you're like, I'm pretty sure like three fourths of the human population was wiped out in the first one.
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So in the span of like 20 years, supposedly all of human civilization has replenished.
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And also all of the engineers and scientists who were probably in the main cities that died, they somehow survived at now we have all this cool stuff, but also what if sometimes we didn't, like they have cool jet things based on the alien technology, but then they also have like an actual helicopter.
00:28:56.664 --> 00:28:56.724
Yeah.
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And you think, okay, so they didn't upgrade the helicopters, but then they have a cool jet helicopter thing and you're like, why did the other helicopter even exist that one dude's mom would've lived, had that not been a real helicopter?
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You could have had a cool space helicopter thing.
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Why?
00:29:15.025 --> 00:29:15.295
Why?
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Why are we doing this?
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What, what, what is the purpose here?
00:29:19.404 --> 00:29:32.724
Um, the funniest thing to me is at the very beginning you have Liam Hemsworth and his buddy, and they're in this thing and they're setting up this cool space laser on the moon.
00:29:33.204 --> 00:29:34.674
Why they sitting it up on the moon?
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I don't know.
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Because they already have apparently 50 of those things orbiting earth.
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Why do they need a land-based one?
00:29:40.974 --> 00:29:41.545
I don't know.
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But they're doing it.
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And Liam Hemsworth's buddy is not paying full attention.
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So he bumps it and this whole thing starts to crumble and fall and they're like, oh no, it's gonna crash into the people.
00:29:57.325 --> 00:30:01.045
And the person at the bottom's like, don't save us.
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Get out of there.
00:30:02.845 --> 00:30:05.575
And Liam hem versus is like, no, I'm gonna do it.
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And he saves them.
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And it's like, why?
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Why wouldn't you have them save you?
00:30:12.055 --> 00:30:14.335
And then why do you scold him for saving your life?
00:30:14.605 --> 00:30:25.285
And why does none of the other pilots who was helping set this thing up in the first place, go and try and help Liam Hemsworth save the people.
00:30:25.944 --> 00:30:38.154
'cause originally there's like eight of these ship things, building this thing or putting it together and seven of'em scatter because they knock it on accident and now it's gonna fall over.
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The one guy is like trying to save him, like I understand at first maybe, but when he starts to slow it, you don't think a single other military pilot would've flown back in and helped him lift it back up?
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I don't think so.
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Um, you can also see where they were saving budget in this show, because there's a point in time where the commander of the people is like yelling orders over his shoulder, but it's like to nobody because nobody is behind him.
00:31:09.099 --> 00:31:11.890
So he is like, Hey, go get the things, do the thing.
00:31:13.150 --> 00:31:13.690
Oh no.
00:31:15.099 --> 00:31:16.990
And nothing is happening behind him.
00:31:16.990 --> 00:31:19.000
So you're like, who are you talking to?
00:31:20.500 --> 00:31:26.319
Um, I think that the show, like, it's forgotten.
00:31:26.349 --> 00:31:29.049
It probably shouldn't be forgotten because.
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On its face.
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:32.799
It's not a terrible idea.
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.039
And I think the CG of it is actually very well made.
00:31:36.309 --> 00:31:40.960
Like the budget for this movie should have been, was probably very, very high.
00:31:43.990 --> 00:31:49.569
But like, is it as good as the
first one?
00:31:49.779 --> 00:31:50.230
No.
00:31:50.410 --> 00:31:51.700
Is there some issues?
00:31:51.789 --> 00:32:00.220
Yes, but I'm just shocked that they put the level of effort into this one and had the acting performances that I was sitting there.
00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:02.440
Like, you've got to be kidding me.
00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:04.569
Like, I
00:32:04.619 --> 00:32:05.069
that even
00:32:05.259 --> 00:32:07.029
kind of like Jeff Goldblum.
00:32:07.509 --> 00:32:09.190
I really like Liam Hemsworth.
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:16.720
Everybody else is kind of like a no name person to me, other than the other returners from the first one.
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:26.440
Um, speaking of which, uh, bill Pullman actually does deliver a good performance, but he's literally the only one.
00:32:28.269 --> 00:32:37.900
Uh, everybody else was allowed to phone it in and I do not understand a director who was sitting there going like, this is acceptable acting.
00:32:38.819 --> 00:32:40.259
Yeah, because it has a pretty good cast.
00:32:40.259 --> 00:32:40.950
I'm looking at it right now.
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:43.930
Who was the director?
00:32:44.049 --> 00:32:51.910
Were they allowed to direct anything since, because I sure hope not because they said that that was acceptable.
00:32:51.910 --> 00:32:53.470
It was not acceptable.
00:32:54.180 --> 00:32:55.200
Moon fall.
00:32:55.289 --> 00:32:58.859
Oh is He is a writer for Moon Fall.
00:33:00.579 --> 00:33:01.000
Okay.
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:01.839
He can write.
00:33:01.869 --> 00:33:02.799
I'm fine with him writing.
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.500
Like I said, I don't think the, like dialogue was actually that bad.
00:33:05.890 --> 00:33:10.660
I just felt like the actors were either bad or phoning it in.
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:17.410
Like I said, Liam Hemsworth felt, literally felt like he could not care less about this movie or the performance or anything.
00:33:17.775 --> 00:33:19.545
he directed the new midway.
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:21.730
No way.
00:33:21.795 --> 00:33:23.230
That's not possible.
00:33:24.130 --> 00:33:24.880
There's no way.
00:33:26.505 --> 00:33:26.924
I'm looking at
00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:28.375
That movie's awesome.
00:33:29.384 --> 00:33:30.134
That is nuts.
00:33:30.375 --> 00:33:31.605
I was like, moon fall makes sense.
00:33:31.605 --> 00:33:32.684
Moon fall sucks.
00:33:33.555 --> 00:33:39.134
But yeah, directed the New Moon, uh, midway and he directed White House down.
00:33:39.315 --> 00:33:40.244
It's a pretty good movie.
00:33:44.184 --> 00:33:54.684
Uh, white House Down, I would believe day after tomorrow, I would believe, but freaking heck what?
00:33:55.224 --> 00:33:56.755
I don't understand this at all.
00:33:56.755 --> 00:33:57.710
Have you seen this one?
00:33:59.055 --> 00:33:59.275
No.
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:03.809
So I watched maybe a third of it and I was literally laying on my couch.
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.680
And my last thought before I fell asleep was, this isn't very good.
00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:09.480
Why did they make this?
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:14.760
And then I fell asleep and I woke up and the movie was over and I didn't have any desire to rewatch it.
00:34:16.735 --> 00:34:18.025
Uh, that's probably fine.
00:34:18.085 --> 00:34:20.005
This is not a need to watch.
00:34:20.005 --> 00:34:21.559
Honestly, if you want to watch something.
00:34:23.275 --> 00:34:27.235
Like this, don't, um, it's not very good.
00:34:27.235 --> 00:34:29.125
I would give it like a four and a half out of 10.
00:34:29.505 --> 00:34:29.795
Okay.
00:34:30.355 --> 00:34:33.655
Um, and that's only because the CGI is amazing.
00:34:33.744 --> 00:34:36.925
Like if you wanna see some cool CGI watch this movie.
00:34:36.925 --> 00:34:51.114
It's got some really good CGI or if you wanna see some absolutely terrible acting, watch the scene when they, when the science guy wakes up.
00:34:51.355 --> 00:34:56.815
Literally like I've seen b movies with better acting than he did.
00:34:56.934 --> 00:35:03.445
I'm sure my reaction or my imitating his acting was better than the acting that that guy delivered.
00:35:04.045 --> 00:35:04.465
Um,
00:35:05.034 --> 00:35:10.679
He directed the first one and he directed the Patriot.
00:35:12.210 --> 00:35:13.320
This was just a bad movie.
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:14.340
This is just a bad movie.
00:35:14.905 --> 00:35:17.155
uh, he directed the first one.
00:35:17.155 --> 00:35:19.945
He directed 10,000 BC White House down.
00:35:21.144 --> 00:35:22.164
Midway.
00:35:23.909 --> 00:35:24.119
That's
00:35:24.235 --> 00:35:25.105
don't see that.
00:35:25.105 --> 00:35:26.275
I don't see the Patriot.
00:35:26.275 --> 00:35:26.965
I, no.
00:35:27.175 --> 00:35:29.994
'cause Gibson did the Patriot.
00:35:30.630 --> 00:35:33.690
What I thought too, but it literally says it right here.
00:35:33.750 --> 00:35:34.739
No, he was the director
00:35:34.824 --> 00:35:36.114
He directed 2012.
00:35:36.144 --> 00:35:36.985
I believe that.
00:35:37.045 --> 00:35:38.994
I believe he directed 2012.
00:35:41.005 --> 00:35:43.164
I do not believe he directed Midway.
00:35:43.164 --> 00:35:45.114
That is one of my all time favorite movies.
00:35:45.204 --> 00:35:47.934
There's no way that this came from the same person.
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:53.190
That's wild, man.
00:35:55.619 --> 00:35:57.150
Yeah, the Patriot's right there.
00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:58.949
That's the Patriot's one of my favorite movies.
00:35:58.949 --> 00:35:59.550
That's crazy.
00:36:00.420 --> 00:36:01.079
That's crazy.
00:36:03.900 --> 00:36:06.690
Oh, the guy is not consistent at
00:36:06.925 --> 00:36:08.304
No, not at all.
00:36:10.195 --> 00:36:11.635
That is absolutely insane.
00:36:11.815 --> 00:36:12.804
Oh, anyway.
00:36:14.244 --> 00:36:15.894
Let's go on to your next topic.
00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:19.045
What do you have for us before we hit our shared topic today?
00:36:19.469 --> 00:36:23.730
Lies of PI finally
finished it and I love this game.
00:36:24.059 --> 00:36:24.929
I love it.
00:36:25.650 --> 00:36:26.429
I love it, I love it.
00:36:26.909 --> 00:36:34.559
Um, so I was thinking about this and my big problem with this game is the camera.
00:36:34.650 --> 00:36:36.269
The camera is my big problem with the game.
00:36:36.570 --> 00:36:45.929
You have the swamp monster where you didn't have any trouble with it at all, but it kicked my ass because it kept putting me in the corner and I couldn't see ways to, to block it.
00:36:46.619 --> 00:36:48.449
that is really my problem with the game.
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:50.309
I think the story is good.
00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:52.349
I think the atmosphere is good.
00:36:52.739 --> 00:36:57.059
I think the creating weapons and being able to put them together is absolutely awesome.
00:36:57.900 --> 00:37:04.769
think the attack patterns and being able to, have to use rolling and you have to use blocking.
00:37:05.699 --> 00:37:08.130
To really get the game and have it flow really well.
00:37:08.340 --> 00:37:09.690
I like that really well.
00:37:10.019 --> 00:37:21.690
Um, and if I rate the original games and I don't rate the DLCs, I think I like this game better than bloodborne.
00:37:23.034 --> 00:37:23.579
That's insane.
00:37:24.644 --> 00:37:25.349
I think I do.
00:37:27.630 --> 00:37:42.570
I was, I was looking at a list of bloodborne bosses and of the original game, the ones that stick out to my mind the Blood Star Beast and Martyr Logus up on the rooftop.
00:37:42.570 --> 00:37:46.139
'cause that is literally my favorite boss fight in anything ever I think is so cool.
00:37:46.349 --> 00:37:46.590
Right.
00:37:46.590 --> 00:37:53.159
I love that boss fight, but a lot of the other ones don't really stick in my mind as much.
00:37:54.059 --> 00:37:56.699
this one had a lot of bosses that stuck in my mind.
00:37:56.699 --> 00:37:58.409
I think it's technically harder.
00:37:59.099 --> 00:38:01.860
Um, I like the fact that you have a story that's.
00:38:02.610 --> 00:38:04.829
Front facing along with the deeper lore.
00:38:05.460 --> 00:38:14.190
It's a problem that I have with some of these other soft type games, um, that I, I, I like having a story.
00:38:14.190 --> 00:38:15.420
It's enjoyable to me.
00:38:15.420 --> 00:38:17.760
I like the way this story goes.
00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:19.559
I love the twist ending.
00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:31.679
I think as a base game, I, I, I do, it's close, it's close, but the DLCs is where I really attached to Bloodborne.
00:38:31.710 --> 00:38:42.090
'cause like the Holy Blade, um, lady Maria Orphan of cas, all of these, these are the bosses that stick in my head, actually the most from Bloodborne.
00:38:43.050 --> 00:38:44.519
So if I cut out the DLC,
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:49.119
What about the three that you couldn't beat in the swamp area?
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:49.590
they
00:38:49.659 --> 00:38:51.309
They've gotta be memorable to you.
00:38:51.570 --> 00:38:56.969
They are memorable to me, but I've re-thought them and I think the three fight in this game is better than that one.
00:38:57.900 --> 00:38:59.250
I think it's a better game, a better fight.
00:38:59.250 --> 00:38:59.309
I.
00:39:00.369 --> 00:39:03.280
You are just talking about memorable bosses, though.
00:39:03.885 --> 00:39:04.289
It, it
00:39:04.405 --> 00:39:05.994
I don't wanna get into that right now.
00:39:05.994 --> 00:39:09.775
But you, you said two and I'm pointing out there's more than two.
00:39:10.315 --> 00:39:10.735
Uh,
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:11.670
The
00:39:11.784 --> 00:39:14.875
about on the bridge, the cleric beast on the first one?
00:39:14.909 --> 00:39:17.429
that, that was the other one that I was gonna possibly bring up.
00:39:17.875 --> 00:39:19.164
What about father Gas?
00:39:19.164 --> 00:39:22.405
Going and using the music box?
00:39:22.710 --> 00:39:26.340
that one is memorable because I beat it the first time.
00:39:26.340 --> 00:39:27.960
And a relationship with you.
00:39:28.829 --> 00:39:32.579
it was just the boss, it would be another boss that was a, that was cool.
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.039
Cool enough boss, like enjoyable boss.
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:36.840
I'm not saying it's bad by saying that,
00:39:36.909 --> 00:39:37.260
Right.
00:39:37.349 --> 00:39:39.780
like the ones that really stick in my head, if
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:43.074
See, that one sticks in my head because of the music box,
00:39:43.590 --> 00:39:43.949
Okay.
00:39:44.574 --> 00:39:44.905
right?
00:39:44.905 --> 00:39:56.065
You go, you see this little girl, she gives you a music box and if you use the music box on father gas coin, he freezes because it reminds her, him of his daughter.
00:39:57.085 --> 00:40:01.344
Like the tragedy of that little plot is incredible.
00:40:01.364 --> 00:40:02.085
It just sticks in your
00:40:02.230 --> 00:40:02.590
Right.
00:40:02.769 --> 00:40:11.199
And so that's where I want to go with this conversation is you're talking about memorable bosses, but when was the last time you played bloodborne?
00:40:12.135 --> 00:40:13.485
it's, it has been a long time.
00:40:14.110 --> 00:40:15.699
And so recency bias,
00:40:16.155 --> 00:40:18.614
There is a recency bp I, like I said, I
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:19.030
right?
00:40:19.184 --> 00:40:20.025
very close.
00:40:20.295 --> 00:40:20.655
Very
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:24.730
But in bloodborne you have all of those little plots.
00:40:24.789 --> 00:40:27.099
That's what sets bloodborne apart, right?
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:27.849
Okay.
00:40:27.969 --> 00:40:47.889
You have the little father gas going plot, you have the people's plot, you have the doctor's plot, you have, uh, gregarious madness plot you like, you have all these little side stories that fit into the greater story just so well that it sits it apart.
00:40:48.309 --> 00:41:00.460
If I had to choose between the, um, changing weapons of bloodborne or the ch building weapons of Liza p,
I would choose the bloodborne one.
00:41:01.605 --> 00:41:02.235
I would choose
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:02.679
Um,
00:41:02.744 --> 00:41:03.675
Liza P one.
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.090
I wouldn't because the lies of p ones are worse.
00:41:07.420 --> 00:41:11.590
Like the standard weapons are significantly better than anything you can build.
00:41:12.914 --> 00:41:14.835
I disagree completely.
00:41:15.309 --> 00:41:18.130
Well, it's mathematically proven to be that way.
00:41:19.030 --> 00:41:26.590
Like if you're talking about DPS damage per second, the standard weapons are better than anything you can build.
00:41:28.179 --> 00:41:28.659
Uh,
00:41:29.300 --> 00:41:32.085
I, don't think so, but I, I, I'll look into that.
00:41:32.114 --> 00:41:33.375
'cause I don't think that's true.
00:41:33.820 --> 00:41:35.050
that is 100% true.
00:41:35.409 --> 00:41:50.440
Uh, and with the bloodborne ones, you can fit it into your play style, meaning you don't just have the weapon, meaning you can transform the weapon, mid fight to change your movement and change your attacks, right?
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:51.039
So if you do.
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:59.769
Boom, boom, extend, you'll do a cool spin move or whatever, and then you can follow it up with another attack again.
00:41:59.769 --> 00:42:01.570
So you have more to play with that way.
00:42:02.710 --> 00:42:03.070
Um,
00:42:03.409 --> 00:42:05.230
So it gives you more movement sets, which
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:07.989
yeah, which is a variety, right?
00:42:07.989 --> 00:42:11.110
You can just use the standard, you can just use the extended
00:42:11.469 --> 00:42:11.760
Yeah.
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:20.920
you would have what you have in Lizza P, but the fact that you can just instantly transform it mid fight or during a move set is what sets that apart.
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:25.210
Um, yeah.
00:42:25.210 --> 00:42:27.760
I, I think the atmosphere is better in bloodborne.
00:42:27.789 --> 00:42:32.199
I love the Victorian horror thing better.
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:42.940
Uh, I love the, uh, aggressiveness, um, the way it does that by gaining your health back.
00:42:43.239 --> 00:42:48.400
Um, if you do it fast enough, like that's so cool.
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.920
Such a cool gameplay mechanic.
00:42:51.519 --> 00:43:01.329
Um, like lies of p is very clearly my second favorite, um,
00:43:02.699 --> 00:43:04.440
drum soft, uh,
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:05.619
souls born game.
00:43:05.699 --> 00:43:06.809
souls game.
00:43:07.420 --> 00:43:07.750
Yeah.
00:43:07.780 --> 00:43:10.329
It, it just, it is better than any of the Dark Souls.
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:15.429
'cause I did not have any struggles with Dark Souls or have that much fun with Dark Souls.
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:16.630
Right.
00:43:16.659 --> 00:43:27.429
So for me it would go bloodborne, big Gap, lies of P, big Gap, Elden ring, dark Souls three and so on.
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:28.949
Okay.
00:43:29.710 --> 00:43:30.070
Right.
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.190
Um, so I'm not trying to say that lies of P'S a bad game.
00:43:33.429 --> 00:43:41.079
I'm just trying to say that if you're comparing the two, like you don't have any camera problems with Bloodborne.
00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:42.300
That
00:43:42.369 --> 00:43:44.199
All of the bosses are fair.
00:43:46.764 --> 00:44:00.625
It's, it just is a more complete package and because it is a, from soft title, you also have all those little touches like the side plot with Father Gas going.
00:44:00.775 --> 00:44:08.965
Now you do get some of that in lines of P, but not nearly to the extent of pod barn.
00:44:10.150 --> 00:44:10.440
Okay.
00:44:10.755 --> 00:44:12.164
I like some of the side stories.
00:44:12.164 --> 00:44:13.875
I like the multiple endings with Liza.
00:44:13.875 --> 00:44:19.905
PI, like I said, it's very, very close and this is me just finishing the game, so there is a bias there.
00:44:20.864 --> 00:44:23.744
But I like the weapon movements.
00:44:23.744 --> 00:44:25.394
I like the diversity of the weapons.
00:44:25.394 --> 00:44:26.474
I like the story.
00:44:26.474 --> 00:44:32.474
I like, I I, I like the atmosphere in the world maybe a little bit better, but it's close.
00:44:32.474 --> 00:44:33.735
Again, they're very close.
00:44:33.735 --> 00:44:36.224
They are very, very, very close.
00:44:37.125 --> 00:44:37.425
But.
00:44:40.380 --> 00:44:51.719
I also struggled with Liza P more just in general, um, a a lot more, and maybe there was a little bit more of a rewarding factor to that because
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:53.230
am gonna call BS on that.
00:44:54.750 --> 00:45:01.769
uh, besides that boss that you, that you beat for me, that I absolutely struggled with this game more.
00:45:01.980 --> 00:45:03.000
Absolutely.
00:45:03.099 --> 00:45:04.690
How long did it take you to Beat Bloodborne?
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:07.320
I don't know,
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:09.519
How long did it take you to beat this one?
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:10.949
50 hours.
00:45:11.860 --> 00:45:12.099
Okay.
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:14.230
Bloodborne was significantly more
00:45:18.284 --> 00:45:18.405
I
00:45:18.550 --> 00:45:27.849
like the time we played together, which wasn't that far into the game, was almost 50 hours.
00:45:28.230 --> 00:45:29.940
I don't think it was 50 hours.
00:45:30.195 --> 00:45:32.469
It was between 38 and 45.
00:45:33.389 --> 00:45:37.019
Like I beat the Cleric Beast on my third one, I believe.
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:39.329
Gascon was first.
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:42.900
Victor Amelia.
00:45:42.900 --> 00:45:44.190
I don't remember who the what boss.
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:50.039
I don't even remember which process is, uh, I don't, that one didn't take that many times.
00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:54.659
Crystal Emissary, how many times did it take that one?
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.119
Oh, that was a one time fight.
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.190
I didn't, Don didn't take more than once.
00:46:01.139 -->
00:46:02.820
Um, I don't remember.
00:46:02.820 --> 00:46:05.670
On, in brightness.
00:46:07.739 --> 00:46:09.960
Blood star Beast took me two times.
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.150
I just thought that boss was super, super cool.
00:46:13.139 --> 00:46:16.304
Thus, three shadows were an absolute pain in my ass.
00:46:16.304 --> 00:46:20.280
And I fought those a million different times until you beat him.
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:25.170
Uh, Rome the spider took me three.
00:46:26.099 --> 00:46:27.389
The witch was one.
00:46:28.139 --> 00:46:29.219
The one reborn.
00:46:29.219 --> 00:46:30.150
What is that boss?
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:33.869
Which one is that one?
00:46:36.635 --> 00:46:36.855
Oh.
00:46:37.139 --> 00:46:40.679
Uh, I don't remember how long it took me.
00:46:42.269 --> 00:46:44.369
Martyr took me three times.
00:46:44.369 --> 00:46:47.610
Dark Beast Pearl took me twice.
00:46:48.510 --> 00:46:59.219
Emma, Amy Gia was a one time Margo's wet nurse was three hosted The Nightmare.
00:46:59.219 --> 00:47:00.480
I don't remember.
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.030
Ludwig took me two times.
00:47:03.929 --> 00:47:05.340
Nightmares took me two times.
00:47:05.340 --> 00:47:07.440
Lady Maria took me a lot of times.
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.559
Orphan of Cost took me a whole lot of times.
00:47:11.610 --> 00:47:18.420
Uh, Lawrence, the first Vic, I don't remember how many times that took me.
00:47:19.889 --> 00:47:22.050
The first Hunter I beat the first time.
00:47:23.489 --> 00:47:30.269
So yeah, I just think like times it took me to beat.
00:47:30.300 --> 00:47:34.079
Most of them weren't even close.
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:36.690
I, I fought some of these guys so many times.
00:47:36.690 --> 00:47:36.750
I.
00:47:37.230 --> 00:47:42.210
Um, a stupid one-Armed, God, I fought that sucker so many times.
00:47:42.539 --> 00:47:48.780
The, uh, the nameless puppet I probably fought 40 times.
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:55.500
Um, actually Laia, who's supposed to be the hardest one, was a little bit less, but it was still 10 times.
00:47:55.500 --> 00:47:59.610
And that's is, that's equal to a lot of these bloodborne bosses.
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:04.289
Like I, I fought some of these bosses so many freaking times.
00:48:05.155 --> 00:48:07.195
Okay, so here's my comment to that.
00:48:07.619 --> 00:48:08.010
Yeah.
00:48:08.454 --> 00:48:12.925
I think you're misremembering because if you really one shot that many bloodborne bosses,
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:13.650
Hmm.
00:48:13.764 --> 00:48:22.014
you would've gotten through that game a heck of a lot faster and is something that like I can't even do now as an experienced blood born player.
00:48:22.675 --> 00:48:29.485
Um, so I think you're a little bit underestimating the number of times you may have died to a lot of those and saying you one shot them.
00:48:29.815 --> 00:48:36.505
Like I feel like most bloodborne bosses, even if you do one shot them, you go in kind of half dead.
00:48:37.344 --> 00:48:43.945
To figure out the movement patterns, die, go in, figure out a little bit more, die, and then go in and have a pretty easy time of it.
00:48:44.545 --> 00:48:53.695
But two, the other thing I wanna emphasize with that argument is in lies of P, you basically have short areas between bosses.
00:48:53.695 --> 00:48:58.135
Whereas in blood barn, you have vast areas between bosses.
00:48:58.239 --> 00:48:58.815
That's why I
00:48:59.005 --> 00:49:01.255
So you're not counting that time
00:49:01.664 --> 00:49:06.644
is because the areas in between are, much bigger, much, much,
00:49:06.684 --> 00:49:08.905
and better for the most part.
00:49:09.324 --> 00:49:16.554
Like I said, the Liz FP area where you're in the swamp area, where it actually gives you like strategic mounds, love that.
00:49:16.795 --> 00:49:17.699
That's not in bloodborne.
00:49:17.784 --> 00:49:20.364
You basically just have to get poison into bloodborne, and I hate that.
00:49:21.324 --> 00:49:34.675
But aside from that one area, the level design is so much better in bloodborne, uh, the kills between the bosses feel so much more satisfying than bloodborne, like.
00:49:35.324 --> 00:49:38.655
the main thing that made me go, maybe bloodborne is still better.
00:49:38.655 --> 00:49:40.244
I, I don't know.
00:49:40.244 --> 00:49:41.534
It's, like I said, it's really close.
00:49:41.894 --> 00:49:46.215
Um, is that one level where you're going up the tower and you have to climb on those beams.
00:49:46.364 --> 00:49:48.974
I freaking hate that level in Liz PI hate that level.
00:49:49.065 --> 00:49:55.724
I fell off those beams so many times and it just pissed me off that I didn't enjoy the level design of really at all.
00:49:56.534 --> 00:49:56.625
I
00:49:56.844 --> 00:49:58.250
I don't even know what you're talking about.
00:49:58.934 --> 00:50:00.074
Oh, there's a part where.
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:10.079
You're just climbing up the tower and there's those beams that you have to walk on, and there's guys that are throwing stuff at you the entire time, and there's, uh, bells that are swinging back and forth.
00:50:10.114 --> 00:50:11.429
You, you don't remember that.
00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:12.550
Nope.
00:50:13.619 --> 00:50:15.420
That part drove me freaking crazy.
00:50:16.170 --> 00:50:20.670
Where bloodborne doesn't have any parts in the map that I was just bugged by.
00:50:20.670 --> 00:50:21.719
That I remember.
00:50:24.969 --> 00:50:33.204
Yeah, I, I just, I, I, I know I'm being a little bit defensive of bloodborne'cause it is my all time favorite game,
00:50:33.644 --> 00:50:33.934
Yeah.
00:50:34.344 --> 00:50:35.005
but I just.
00:50:35.980 --> 00:50:45.610
If you break it down into elements, I think in every single element, bloodborne is just better, or it's a matter of opinion, like atmosphere, right?
00:50:45.610 --> 00:50:48.610
Like I, I prefer the Victorian horror stuff.
00:50:48.900 --> 00:50:51.329
I think combat is better than lizza PI really do.
00:50:52.710 --> 00:50:52.829
I
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:54.610
I very clearly don't,
00:50:54.750 --> 00:50:55.320
more
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:55.570
Nope.
00:50:55.739 --> 00:50:56.429
of you.
00:50:56.820 --> 00:50:59.070
I think combat is better than Lizza in Lizza.
00:50:59.070 --> 00:50:59.250
P.
00:51:00.130 --> 00:51:02.380
I very strongly disagree with that.
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:05.550
There's other areas, like I can get the atmosphere.
00:51:05.610 --> 00:51:06.929
I, I like both of them.
00:51:06.929 --> 00:51:08.489
I could go either way.
00:51:08.789 --> 00:51:14.099
I get the enemy design and the mo movement of the enemies I think could go either way.
00:51:14.699 --> 00:51:16.440
Um, I could get the lore.
00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:18.329
I think that could go either way.
00:51:18.900 --> 00:51:23.880
Um, I think the story is, is kind of clearly better in lizza p lye, but
00:51:24.010 --> 00:51:32.050
I'd say that's a matter of opinion, specifically because like the way it's delivered, right?
00:51:32.789 --> 00:51:33.179
a
00:51:33.385 --> 00:51:35.635
lies of P you do get it more directly,
00:51:36.750 --> 00:51:37.320
Which I,
00:51:37.465 --> 00:51:44.335
if you talked about depth and stuff, you have a clear leaning towards bloodborne.
00:51:44.364 --> 00:51:46.014
So it's, it's entirely like,
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:46.889
That
00:51:46.914 --> 00:51:50.574
you like to piece it together and figure it out or have it delivered to you?
00:51:50.875 --> 00:51:52.554
That's just a preference thing.
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:53.940
That is a preference thing.
00:51:53.940 --> 00:51:54.449
That's true.
00:51:55.409 --> 00:51:56.010
So.
00:51:56.489 --> 00:51:59.969
The one area that I do just think is better is combat.
00:52:00.925 --> 00:52:03.204
And I, I just plain disagree with you.
00:52:03.505 --> 00:52:12.025
'cause I think without bloodborne you don't even get the highs of Liza P's combat because they took so much from it.
00:52:12.985 --> 00:52:20.875
But you have the transforming weapons, you have more weapon variety, you have more play style variety.
00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:21.659
variety.
00:52:22.224 --> 00:52:22.704
Yes, you do.
00:52:22.704 --> 00:52:27.864
You have strength weapons, you have arcane weapons, you have dex weapons, you have.
00:52:28.989 --> 00:52:31.090
Long weapons and short weapons and,
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:31.559
Do you have
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:42.309
lizza P not really because the best weapons are the ones that they give you and they're just one play style.
00:52:42.369 --> 00:52:44.829
And like you said, you have to block in this one.
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:45.789
Right.
00:52:45.849 --> 00:52:56.139
Uh, I think to make bloodborne easier, you use the, the countering thing, but it's so much more satisfying in bloodborne'cause it's harder.
00:52:57.190 --> 00:53:04.900
Uh, but yeah, I still love Liza P absolutely.
00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:11.110
Uh, just not, not to the same level of, of bloodborne.
00:53:12.304 --> 00:53:13.469
It's, it's close, man.
00:53:13.590 --> 00:53:16.199
They're both fantastic games and I'm glad I gotta play it.
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:20.010
And I'm so, I'm so excited for the lives of PDLC.
00:53:20.010 --> 00:53:21.599
I hope they knock it out of the park.
00:53:22.050 --> 00:53:29.670
I don't really like, they're adding levels to the game of difficulty ready rate rating, but I am
00:53:29.695 --> 00:53:32.065
Like they're making an easy medium and hard.
00:53:32.489 --> 00:53:34.769
they're doing a one through five and the
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:35.219
Ugh.
00:53:35.250 --> 00:53:37.170
that I, yeah, I don't really like it.
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:44.309
The reviewer that I watched said that it feels like we've been playing on a three, so you can actually play harder than.
00:53:44.775 --> 00:53:46.425
The original game, which is kind of cool.
00:53:47.190 --> 00:53:48.889
You can in all the other games too.
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:49.969
It's called New Game Plus.
00:53:50.594 --> 00:53:51.014
Yeah, I know, I know.
00:53:51.945 --> 00:54:02.684
and she said she didn't get tested enough, but she thinks that four and five might increase movement sets instead of just making it like, this person has more health.
00:54:02.954 --> 00:54:04.724
Which if they do that, that's kind of a cool thing.
00:54:04.724 --> 00:54:10.784
I do like that, I think these games are hard on purpose and they should be hard on purpose.
00:54:12.675 --> 00:54:13.125
Yeah.
00:54:13.545 --> 00:54:16.454
I'm still excited for this, for this DLCI hope it's
00:54:16.505 --> 00:54:16.844
Me too.
00:54:17.414 --> 00:54:27.585
They're doing a boss rush mode, which I also think is cool, where you can just challenge bosses over and over and over again and try to get as far as you can and do like a leaderboards ranking type of a thing.
00:54:28.034 --> 00:54:28.125
I
00:54:28.150 --> 00:54:29.050
Bloodborne has that.
00:54:30.105 --> 00:54:31.335
I actually didn't know Bloodborne had that.
00:54:31.335 --> 00:54:31.784
That's cool.
00:54:32.625 --> 00:54:33.135
That is cool.
00:54:34.034 --> 00:54:37.304
Um, and yeah, I, I don't know.
00:54:37.364 --> 00:54:37.875
I'm excited.
00:54:38.295 --> 00:54:39.405
I really, I love this game.
00:54:39.554 --> 00:54:40.275
I love this game.
00:54:41.769 --> 00:54:42.849
Okay, I'm glad.
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:43.750
I love it too.
00:54:44.409 --> 00:54:46.239
What would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
00:54:49.724 --> 00:54:50.054
Nine.
00:54:53.184 --> 00:54:53.514
Okay.
00:54:54.114 --> 00:55:02.304
Uh, are you more excited for the DLC or for the sequel?
00:55:04.094 --> 00:55:11.235
Oh, the equal probably.
00:55:12.085 --> 00:55:12.355
Okay.
00:55:12.534 --> 00:55:12.835
Me too.
00:55:14.085 --> 00:55:14.565
Yeah.
00:55:14.655 --> 00:55:16.065
That's a, that was a, that
00:55:16.105 --> 00:55:16.375
Okay.
00:55:16.554 --> 00:55:16.855
Me too.
00:55:17.204 --> 00:55:17.954
Ending was great.
00:55:19.315
--> 00:55:29.724
As a P is a to see the new worlds or new elements that Dorothy would bring.
00:55:30.534 --> 00:55:36.929
Uh, so that's, that's why I'm way more excited for the, the sequel and not so much the DLC.
00:55:37.635 --> 00:55:43.184
Really, really hope that they are incorporate the red shoes and like tapping them together in combat.
00:55:43.215 --> 00:55:44.355
'cause that'd be sweet.
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:46.929
I'm not sure that they will.
00:55:46.934 --> 00:55:49.420
That would be a very interesting thing.
00:55:49.480 --> 00:55:51.519
And I don't know what it would do actually.
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:55.869
That's what it's gonna be, the bailout thing where you lose all your souls and go back home.
00:55:56.835 --> 00:55:57.164
Actually.
00:55:57.164 --> 00:55:57.795
That's a good idea.
00:55:57.945 --> 00:55:58.514
Honestly,
00:55:58.659 --> 00:56:02.170
they're gonna do, is that you have the shoes, you get to tap'em together, and then you go back.
00:56:02.170 --> 00:56:03.489
But you lose all your progress.
00:56:05.114 --> 00:56:06.405
That would, yeah.
00:56:06.795 --> 00:56:07.094
I don't know.
00:56:07.094 --> 00:56:08.264
I'm, I'm very pumped for it.
00:56:08.264 --> 00:56:11.684
I'm pumped for this DLCI hope that they do a good job with both
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:14.349
I hope so too.
00:56:14.829 --> 00:56:17.860
Uh, with that, let's head to our shared topic.
00:56:18.369 --> 00:56:24.099
The accountant starring, what's his name?
00:56:24.099 --> 00:56:25.119
Ben Affleck.
00:56:26.530 --> 00:56:28.150
Uh, why don't you go first?
00:56:28.449 --> 00:56:29.559
What'd you think?
00:56:30.554 --> 00:56:31.889
I just don't like Ben Affleck.
00:56:32.940 --> 00:56:33.059
I.
00:56:33.795 --> 00:56:37.965
I've tried and I'm like, what's, what's the other guy's name that I thought I didn't like?
00:56:37.994 --> 00:56:38.565
Matt Damon.
00:56:40.755 --> 00:56:42.284
Matt Damon has some really good stuff
00:56:44.050 --> 00:56:45.699
He has a lot of really good stuff
00:56:45.764 --> 00:56:46.425
he has a lot of really good
00:56:46.449 --> 00:56:47.800
'cause he's a really great actor.
00:56:48.164 --> 00:57:00.164
Ben Affleck is not that great, and this is a movie that has a really cool idea where you like have this autistic kid who grows up to be the accountant for like major crime institutions.
00:57:00.255 --> 00:57:05.445
And it's like a, it's a cool idea there's a lot of aspects of this movie that are really well done.
00:57:05.534 --> 00:57:06.855
I think the writing is good.
00:57:07.184 --> 00:57:10.784
I think the, the cinematography is pretty good.
00:57:10.784 --> 00:57:26.864
I think the direction's pretty good, but Ben Affleck is doll as hell in this movie and he doesn't do a good job and he ruins this movie and I was kind of excited for the second one, but now I don't even care'cause I just, I just don't, I don't think he's good.
00:57:26.925 --> 00:57:27.824
I don't think he's a good actor.
00:57:29.530 --> 00:57:31.420
What would you rate this movie on a scale of one to 10?
00:57:33.344 --> 00:57:35.445
It's above an average six.
00:57:37.210 --> 00:57:37.480
Okay.
00:57:37.514 --> 00:57:44.355
If, if it was someone else besides Ben Affleck, this could have been a movie, I could have joined over and over again, like a 7.5.
00:57:44.565 --> 00:57:45.855
He drops at a full point and a half.
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:50.170
Okay, fair enough.
00:57:50.739 --> 00:57:52.719
I have never seen Ben Affleck better.
00:57:53.625 --> 00:57:54.405
Okay.
00:57:55.275 --> 00:57:55.934
All right.
00:57:56.619 --> 00:57:59.139
When have you seen Ben Affleck do a better job?
00:57:59.139 --> 00:57:59.800
Be honest.
00:58:00.224 --> 00:58:00.945
I don't know.
00:58:00.945 --> 00:58:05.925
Let me look up really quick and see if I can see something like,
00:58:06.099 --> 00:58:07.989
Batman terrible.
00:58:08.355 --> 00:58:09.315
it is awful.
00:58:10.605 --> 00:58:11.175
Argo.
00:58:11.590 --> 00:58:12.130
Hunting.
00:58:12.340 --> 00:58:14.320
Thank goodness he wasn't in that movie.
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:14.769
More.
00:58:15.940 --> 00:58:16.389
Uh,
00:58:16.844 --> 00:58:17.264
Argo.
00:58:18.309 --> 00:58:18.789
okay.
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:22.179
I haven't seen Argo, I've never seen Ben Affleck better.
00:58:22.900 --> 00:58:27.519
Uh, I think there are elements of this that is very, very good and interesting.
00:58:28.644 --> 00:58:36.625
In concept, uh, I think having him be autistic is a very good concept,
00:58:36.869 --> 00:58:37.079
I
00:58:37.195 --> 00:58:39.565
but Ben Affleck doesn't play autistic.
00:58:39.655 --> 00:58:45.775
So what you have as an autistic kid who came, became a slightly socially awkward adult,
00:58:47.730 --> 00:58:48.119
Yep.
00:58:48.570 --> 00:58:56.545
and the rest of this movie is very, uh, mediocre at best, four and a half out of 10 for me.
00:58:57.449 --> 00:58:58.710
Oh, you were even lower than me.
00:58:58.710 --> 00:58:59.070
Wow.
00:58:59.099 --> 00:58:59.519
Okay.
00:59:00.690 --> 00:59:02.429
I thought everything else was pretty good.
00:59:03.179 --> 00:59:03.840
Besides Ben.
00:59:05.065 --> 00:59:12.925
I thought that, uh, in concept it's got some good ideas in execution.
00:59:12.954 --> 00:59:19.494
At its best, it is mediocre, very average spy action thriller show.
00:59:20.309 --> 00:59:20.760
Okay.
00:59:21.054 --> 00:59:22.429
And when you really look at it.
00:59:22.710 --> 00:59:24.750
should be better than it is?
00:59:26.005 --> 00:59:26.485
Yeah.
00:59:26.574 --> 00:59:28.045
'cause that concept is good.
00:59:28.074 --> 00:59:35.724
You just have to get a good actor and a good writer to actually put those together into something.
00:59:35.994 --> 00:59:42.445
But you don't, you just kind of have a before and after and not really a cause and effect.
00:59:42.775 --> 00:59:57.534
Um, with the autism and the actors give dull performances like we're talking about Ben Affleck, but what about the guy who
plays Ben Affleck's dad?
00:59:58.405 --> 01:00:05.304
Like his whole character is like, I'm this hardened army veteran guy and I don't accept anything less.
01:00:05.304 --> 01:00:13.885
And you're only gonna make a pansy child by coddling him, and he needs to go through hardship to outgrow his autism.
01:00:13.885 --> 01:00:14.184
Right.
01:00:14.699 --> 01:00:14.989
Yeah,
01:00:15.744 --> 01:00:19.045
And he delivers it exactly like I just delivered it.
01:00:19.510 --> 01:00:21.250
An explanation of the character.
01:00:21.340 --> 01:00:27.579
He doesn't actually get hardened or emotional or fiery or anything.
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:31.030
He's just like, no, continue beating each other up.
01:00:31.030 --> 01:00:44.199
Brothers also, uh, the brother element, good idea and concept, but man, oh man.
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:59.500
Did you telegraph it way too in advance to have it have any kind of emotional meaning when you tried to have it be and if it wasn't for Bernthal, who actually I do think does a really good job in the movie, but there's just not enough of him.
01:01:00.340 --> 01:01:03.849
Uh, the it is, it just, ugh.
01:01:05.170 --> 01:01:06.579
I did not love this movie.
01:01:06.579 --> 01:01:11.380
I heard the accountant two was coming out and I was not very excited for it.
01:01:11.530 --> 01:01:14.769
And I'm even less excited now, like.
01:01:16.329 --> 01:01:21.909
Why would you watch this when you could watch a dozen other action thriller movies?
01:01:22.739 --> 01:01:23.250
I don't know.
01:01:23.699 --> 01:01:24.929
I really, I have no idea.
01:01:26.099 --> 01:01:26.445
I don't know.
01:01:27.974 --> 01:01:29.864
I mean, Anna Kendrick is okay in it.
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:31.449
No, she's not.
01:01:31.449 --> 01:01:32.739
I really don't think she is.
01:01:32.739 --> 01:01:36.144
I think she's kind of like Anna Kendrick.
01:01:37.125 --> 01:01:38.235
She is Anna Kendrick.
01:01:39.195 --> 01:01:41.085
Uh, JK Simmons is usually great.
01:01:41.085 --> 01:01:42.255
Is okay.
01:01:43.074 --> 01:01:43.364
Yeah.
01:01:43.454 --> 01:01:44.565
He is like, is pretty good.
01:01:44.565 --> 01:01:47.594
I guess it's, it's just not,
01:01:48.284 --> 01:01:50.380
Like this could be a really good movie.
01:01:50.469 --> 01:01:51.400
I agree with you.
01:01:52.630 --> 01:01:57.849
But the fact that it could be a really good movie does not mean that it is, and that's why it's a four and a half for me.
01:01:58.179 --> 01:02:00.969
There are some really good elements to it, right?
01:02:01.030 --> 01:02:03.670
Like Bethal, whatever his first name is.
01:02:03.670 --> 01:02:06.940
I wanna say John, he does a really good job.
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:08.800
JK Simmons is in it.
01:02:08.889 --> 01:02:10.449
I think he does a pretty good job.
01:02:11.050 --> 01:02:23.320
He's not great, but he is JK Simmons and he, he does an okay job and you have good concepts, but the writing not great action sequences, not great set pieces, not great.
01:02:26.050 --> 01:02:30.849
You have a before and after and not a cause and effect, and that's not great either.
01:02:30.849 --> 01:02:35.769
So at the very end of the day, right, is it mediocre?
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:38.530
No, it's not for me.
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:41.710
Uh, your main character is the worst character in it.
01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:47.260
And for that reason alone, I would rather watch Black Panther.
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:47.679
Right?
01:02:48.340 --> 01:02:49.690
It's a Black Panther
01:02:49.844 --> 01:02:50.085
up
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:51.369
isn't, okay.
01:02:51.369 --> 01:02:54.130
It's a mediocre movie, but everybody does a good job in it.
01:02:54.675 --> 01:03:00.315
I thought this was mostly pretty good I would rather watch this than Black Panther.
01:03:00.554 --> 01:03:12.179
Maybe I should give it like a 5.5 of a six, but I don't want to watch this movie again, but I would watch this over for Black Panther.
01:03:13.074 --> 01:03:19.585
So I think your measuring of Black Panther is not five out of five then
01:03:21.059 --> 01:03:21.599
Okay.
01:03:21.630 --> 01:03:21.900
Because I
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because we seem to be on the same page,
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yes,
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but it seems like you just genuinely don't like Black Panther.
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Black Panther to me is mediocre, like you were saying.
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And I think this one has some good elements that make it slightly better than mediocre or Black Panther has nothing memorable and it is just
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Okay.
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I wouldn't say nothing memorable.
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Chadwick Bossman does a really great job.
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You have a really cool action sequence.
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Um, you have very good set pieces.
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The only thing that movie I think is like, not just blah, is um, the guy who plays goum at the very beginning of the movie, and that's it.
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I think it has some good stuff and some uh, stuff and some not great stuff.
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Like the plot is very, very basic.
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Very basic.
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And in execution, the whole thing is ultimately very myth.
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But if we're talking about the accountant here, right?
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Concept, good execution, not good.
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Hmm.
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Right?
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Which one did I have more enjoyment watching the first time?
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You had more enjoyment with Black Panther.
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Panther?
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Yeah.
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I went into Black Panther and I was like, I don't understand how popular this is and how big it is because it's just so meh, but I wasn't
criticizing it.
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There's no giant potholes or issues or.
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Bad performances.
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That's a good point.
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It just really wasn't even that much to really talk about.
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I.
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Yeah.
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It's a very mediocre show.
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It, it's so middle of the pack and meh that like, but there's nothing bad, like I can't criticize it other than saying like, this is the same as every other Marvel superhero movie just with black actors.
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And that is the only thing that changes it at all.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Whereas, but like
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This one has a
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it's still fine.
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that you can actually talk about, or Black
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Yeah.
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doesn't really, it is just a
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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like Black Panther, I can whip out my phone, I can ignore it and have a great time.
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Right.
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And so Matt, I don't need to pay attention to it.
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I'm not gonna miss anything.
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It's just there.
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And like I said, I do think that the set piece of the fight between Black Panther and the cousin brother or whatever on the waterfall is gorgeous,
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It's
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a very good, and the, the fighting sequence,
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but good.
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it's well choreographed though, right?
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Like
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Yeah.
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let the, you've got the Jason Bourne movies, which you hate, but you can actually look at that choreograph and you, okay, that makes sense.
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Nobody's overpowered, nobody's doing stupid stuff.
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It's a very basic fight, but there's no problems with it either.
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So would I rather watch the Black Panther than the accountant?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I think you've shifted my opinion.
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I think you're right, men.
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I think you're right.
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I'll
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Woo-hoo.
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I think you're right.
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Hooray.
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I don't say that very often, but I think you're right.
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Yeah, and it's just like, I don't know, I think the hardest thing for the accountant to pass over is the fact that it's in a genre.
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That there's so many things in
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That are just better.
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that are just better and
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I, I'm, yeah, I, I'm not a fan of the porn movies.
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I would rather, I think I would rather watch the Born movies.
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well, that's'cause those are fantastic.
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Right?
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But the accountant is fighting with all of James Bond.
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It's fighting with all of the born movies.
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It's fighting with
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Mission
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mission impossible movies.
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Um,
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better than it.
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it's, it's fighting with the Kingsman Eve, even though it's a slightly different thing, but.
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uh, one I reviewed a while ago.
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What was that movie called?
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That was, that was good.
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Um, uh, where he's a smart tech guy, he blows up a pool.
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What is that movie called that you wanted to
01:07:50.844 --> 01:07:51.594
The amateur.
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The amateur.
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I also think that's better than this.
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Yeah, I'm sure that it is.
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And I have full confidence that it's better than this.
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Uh, what is that show?
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Uh, I love it with Eddie Redman and
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Yeah.
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You've talked about it
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I rev
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Still haven't watched it yet.
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the jackal, uh, day of the Jackal.
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I like it's competing with so much and so much of that is such good stuff.
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Yeah.
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And then you have like MCU, which is not really our thing.
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So, and it's competing with only its own shows.
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'cause DC can't put anything together.
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So the pool is also a lot smaller there.
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So, to be fair, right, like it's, it's up against it a lot more.
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But like I just, I really didn't have a good time with this one.
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Now, to be fair with it, it wasn't so bad that I would've turned it off either.
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Um, yeah, I agree, but I would, I, I don't have any desire to watch the second one.
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I.
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Oh, I don't either.
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But like there are some stuff that we watch and we finish watching simply'cause we agreed to talk about it.
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Yeah,
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This is not one of those, it wasn't so bad, right?
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So that's why I give it that four and a half is like, it wasn't so bad.
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Did my life change at all?
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Because I watched it now.
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Am I even glad that I watched it?
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No, but it wasn't so bad that I'm sitting here.
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Like, I wish I never had watched that.
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So
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Fair enough.
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yeah.
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enough.
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Yeah, dude.
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Okay.
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And with that, we're gonna go ahead and wrap up this episode.
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Thank you.
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I love getting'em.
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Love reading'em, love seeing what you guys think.
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So let's agree with me more often, people.
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That's what I think.
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And have a great day.
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See you guys.