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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I love that we have so many, so many musical people in our universe, welcome in everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the two count.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I've been watching the chat the last five minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is absolutely poppin' today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a positive space to discuss wrestling something we all love.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, big time announcement today before I bring my boy in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Last night, we launched our newest thing, our newest platform, and it is absolutely gigantic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And last night, we had Monday and I grind looked absolutely amazing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming we're frozen right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we are available now in over 360 million homes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 360 million homes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's bring in JD and we'll get his reaction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I know he's gigantic, but JD have you ever been in 360 million homes?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have not.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's incredible news right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we've got the best producer in the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the absolute best producer in the damn game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so as we know, he is literally producing right now, which is why he's taking a little while to upload from outside of the United States.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's his dedication JD to the project, to the brand, and that's also where we're gonna kind of start today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: as well outside of the United States.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll roll that video at the end proves to man, I need to see my clock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are brought today by Bluetooth gold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to see my countdown because this is maybe JD the most emotional two weeks maybe in the history of the WWE.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So 10 topics, two and a half minutes per let's get it going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Topic number one seems like
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[SPEAKER_02]: announcements from safety agencies from the United States that all personnel from America needs to get out all personnel that is not essential needs to get out but yet last night on Monday night raw right at the start what did we promote crown jewel crown jewel crown jewel start the clock how is this still on JD go
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[SPEAKER_04]: I really don't know, honestly, coach, I'm getting a little, a little frustrated even talking about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's all anybody really is focusing on, are you manual?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have the quote pulled up here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It says that everything is still set to go right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything is still set.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This weekend coming up in Abu Dhabi, we have a UFC fight when the middle of an November, uh, art show so far, everything is on and nothing has been canceled.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have a whole team working on this and kind of when, and if that doesn't happen, where we can move it, everything is right now a daily monitoring, you know,
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[SPEAKER_04]: The only thing that I could really say about this coach is me personally I don't care it's more about how WWE is handling it on television because that's what I care about most that's what we should all care about most is the product that's airing on television right now rest of the votes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: on fight for select said that there is absolute disarray backstage because he got talents that don't care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He got talents that don't want to go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then you look at Triple H in the writing team, the creative team, the television that we've been
given on Friday and going in into Monday last night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The company is producing television that
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[SPEAKER_04]: is just it's it's it's so boring.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's there's no there's no excitement to anything that's going on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you have this show in the middle of your calendar that you don't care about and then by by that and you feeling that way the television doesn't matter and you don't care about the television show because you don't care about the product and the content that is leading into the paper review.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't care about the paper view.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How do they expect us to care about the actual show
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[SPEAKER_04]: I feel like Triple H can't wait to get this shit over with WWE can't wait to get this shit over with so they can worry about Survivor Series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So how am I supposed to care if they don't care?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's so many different layers to this and I think the reason I'm still bothered, and I've made it very clear about why I'm triggered on this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I got one of my connection yesterday and I rarely put over fightful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I rarely put over any of the dirt sheets, but they're absolutely correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's because the names that I got given to me that are backstage furious
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[SPEAKER_02]: at this, but yet we have not seen even one talent, JD, not one, has talked about this, has addressed this, and the other part of this is that Cody and Roman in particular have been doing a lot of appearances for Street Fighter to promote that movie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that if we had either one of them or Sammy or Randy or anybody going to the show, if we had him on two count.
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[SPEAKER_02]: unless we were instructed not to, would be what are your feelings about Crown Jewel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the names I got that do not want to go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin Owens, Dan Housing, Sammy Zane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I said to my, I said Sammy Zane, they're like, yeah, his background is something that the Iranians would absolutely go after.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Americans and what his background is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so to me, it is
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[SPEAKER_04]: that the WWE and TKO have told their talent clearly you do not comment on this because have you seen one talent even one say yeah I would still go yeah I would still do that have you seen one comment on it now but we can make assumptions and see what our own two eyes what WWE's done with the bill they only have four matches as of right now they haven't laid out the the match card at all they haven't been hasty with it or they haven't been any
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know a sense of urgency to get the match card out and then they book Kevin Owens and CM Punk in a taped Smackdown match at the Barclay Center next week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean that is a PLE match through and through.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So the way that I think is CM Punk and Kevin Owens, that was going to happen at crown jewel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're not going because they don't want to go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why they're not at the Barclay Center taped.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're rather performing a tape show then go and rest their lives in Saudi Arabia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I get that and I just told you Kevin Owens was one of the names that was told to me yesterday So I respect that he's saying something backstage and I also think that the energy we're seeing on the show is a direct result of that Yes, I really believe that
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[SPEAKER_02]: Topic number two, Aril Hawani is reporting so that the quote that you read from Aril was prior to the UFC event in Abu Dhabi, which was last week and of course, Dana White's up on the day, it's going, man, we don't, we don't stop for nobody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Abu Dhabi is not out of your rapial.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be very clear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they have a power slap event next Friday, November 6th, the day before Crown Jewel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here is what Aril Hawani is reporting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that they're not even flying into the airport in Saudi Arabia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are flying somewhere else, getting on a bus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I have been to this part of the country.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You think you want to ride a bus all by yourself into Saudi Arabia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For five hours.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that is topping number two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If power slap won't even fly in there, why should WWE superstars feel safe about flying into that airport?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's something that really boggles my mind about how, how evil and how corrupt and how scummy people are.
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[SPEAKER_04]: WWE's relying on the $50 million or whatever it is, paycheck to hit their fourth quarter earnings.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's all they care about.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They don't want to show their shareholders minus $50 million for
the fourth quarter.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I, I don't, I don't understand that they're, they're looking for,
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[SPEAKER_04]: they're looking for every way out possible to continue to show instead of just canceling the fucking show and doing it last minute here in the United States and just giving everybody on that roster, giving the fan base, everybody in Titan Tower, fucking just peace of mind.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really understand it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Like you said, power slap is going, then that's all, that's all our Emmanuel needs to see power slap going.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, you know,
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to be over there and everything's going to go on as planned.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's disgusting coach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is absolutely disgusting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then we got people saying, well, what do you care about it?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And blah, blah, blah, you know, we can't let these terrorists win.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we can't show them that we're afraid.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't give a fuck, bro.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Get me off the goddamn fucking plane.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Keep me in the United States.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I ain't going over there for no amount, no amount of money whatsoever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody that says that has never been there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have been there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody that says that was not there in 2019 when Vince cut the feed, this was when this whole relationship just started.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He cut the feed and they grounded the plane and then some of the stories and I know because I was told them myself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that are true on how they scared the talent they moved them out of the airport they wouldn't let them take off think about anybody watching right now if you were on an airplane at Dallas for worth or look worthy and somebody came on and said nope you're not flying home you all got to get off why not
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[SPEAKER_02]: no reason.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to keep you here in a country that everybody is terrified.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're dealing with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So anybody said, we're not going to let the terrorists win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you going?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the crazy part to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you going?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The answer is no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you imagine how much good will
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[SPEAKER_02]: that WWE and TKO, it would probably equal $50 million.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they came out and said, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We thought we could pull it off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, I also got word that they're not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they cancel it, they're not going to do the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is canceled.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and post-pone to a much, much, much later date.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It will not happen next weekend anywhere else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was told yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if Ari steps up there or Nick or Triple A's and goes, yep, we're not, can you imagine the positivity, the positivity towards the company, instead of what they're dealing with right now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a little bit too much.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You mean, if they cancel the show, I mean, and they do the right thing, it's like, what people will complain, why did it take so long?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why did it take you so long in the paper v-cycle, the cancel the show, will move the show?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Good evening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Three weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see in the next season of unreal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A zoom call video or just a video of this discussion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love that's unreal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be something that I would watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Topic number three, speaking of crown jewel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As of last night, it was Roman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was Sami Zayn and we did have Sami Zayn who's a SmackDown champ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: two and two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but there was no Roman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was no 946 except for a pre-tate that a lot of people thought was a green screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: With Roman in the background, didn't say a word.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you leading in Survivor Series?
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[SPEAKER_02]: The last two weeks, the biggest storyline is 946 and the bloodline and last night neither one could show their face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Clock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Floor George.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It really gives you a sense of how weak Monday, not raw is when you don't have Roman there and he only decides to
show up twice a week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's no L.A. night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We got no continuation on anything coming out of money in the bank with L.A. night losing to Roman Reigns.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's no olbofemi.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We haven't seen him since he beat Bronson Reed money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then when you don't put those people on the show coach, what do you left with?
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're left with.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tiffany Schratten, Caching and I live Morgan, which is just basically a readheating of leftovers from 2024.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's the same thing she did with NIA Jax, the same thing she did against live Morgan, only two years ago.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we have Stephanie and the care apparently magically pulled from the show mysteriously, pull.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what happened there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We were told that she was cleared on October 24th and that she was going to be at the show and they didn't have her on the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there is no excitement right now in anything WWE is doing whether it's crown jewel or not, semi zane is just like everybody else that came before him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He has to build a feud with Roman Reigns or a match with Roman Reigns, all by himself and he's got to go out there and cut a promo in front of the hard camera without his opponent being in the building yet we're told he's not there yet.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We see a solo sokoa promo, green screen AI, whatever you want to call at that Roman is in the building.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So how are you going to tell me Romans and not in the building but their Romans in this fucking vignette with solosacola make it make sense the company is so lazy coach I don't know how else to put it Monday night and Friday night are some of the most boring episodes that we've seen all year
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wish because we talk about it here and then obviously we talk about a three episodes a week on the coach and bro show, Vince as a writing perspective, it is driving him insane to watch these details and laziness is a great word by you JD because if you've got a group of people in a room and I watch Michael Hayes was Stephanie and he comes off as the most smartest wrestling mind in the business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How are these little things
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[SPEAKER_02]: being dropped.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would guess that probably 70, 30, that that little line from Sammy Zain last night, he didn't think about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, you can chant from all you want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He ain't coming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He ain't here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait a second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is going to be on camera because right now, I do appreciate having a pre tape and at least trying to look like he's in the building.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then your talents on the microphone, they've got to remember he's going to be on the show 45 minutes later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now you're telling the audience that it's a pre tape.
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[SPEAKER_04]: that's what you're telling the audience and that part is absolutely banana land that that falls through the cracks because that is wrestling production one oh one you know goggles my mind back in the attitude arrow in the NWO is at the height of its popularity would ever be sure for WCW ever start a monday nitro off without the NWO first thing first of all never
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you may see it as a match, and then you'll see the NWL, but I mean, this is the biggest angle in WW, we wait 45 minutes to get two, not even two minutes of a promo from Royce Keys.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No body safe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You want to tell me anything else?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still waiting on the fucking explanation about why these two people are in the group.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is absolutely real quick, breaking news, just got sent to me 45 minutes ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There has been another attack on Saudi Arabia, a ballistic missile, triggering a fire at one of the King's most critical oil export hubs this from Blueberg News.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's taking a bus five five hours away to go to fucking read on sure like that's any more safe Yeah You know that big and big and big and pinpoint your bus on there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, let's set a land mine up and watch the bus go blow up What's it so stupid?
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is just doing my god.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right topping number four and
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[SPEAKER_02]: We agreed to disagree sometimes during the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what makes this show good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sammy Zank, you think he's in the best run of his career and maybe he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now because of Roman, not showing up on Monday night raw, they have now had to move Sammy over to Raw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we talked about hot starts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, last night it was Sammy Zank openly telling us
that Roman wasn't there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Sammy is doing, and he even said this to him is promo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I've had to do the most with less.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think WWE is not doing him any favors?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's having to carry this whole thing for Crown Jewel with Roman Reigns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's also said it's promo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He picked his dates and Fresno was not on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, can we make it any more blatant?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Clock, go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Sammy, Sammy is someone that's going to get a lot of hate, and whether you like him or not, whether you agree with him politically or not, Sammy's aunt on television has been one of the most pivotal and one of the most important figures in WWE.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He might not look like a champion to the majority of the people, but he is the WWE champion.
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[SPEAKER_04]: To me, he's the most important champion in the company right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's holding the most prestigious prize in the industry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and he's been on SmackDown mixing it up with some of the biggest names the biggest names at the company has to offer and he's on monday not raw mixing it up with roman rains and he's defending the title against javans and he's all over the place and what he said last night they were two truths in one false statement.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said that he has done a lot with less, which is true.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's been Sammy Zayne most of his career.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It was the most important figure in the bloodline and made the bloodline back in 2023.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What it was at the height of his popularity, absolutely correct.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The only thing that he said was false was that Raw got the netflix deal because of him, which is just him being a heal, which we all know is not the case.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jamie's and deserves his flowers coach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is one of the most important figures on television.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Again, whether you like him or not, he deserves his flowers.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And at the end of the year, when people start putting together their wrestler of the year categories for 2026, Jamie's and is going to be at on year the top at a list in WWE with 2026.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a lot of truth to what Sammy Zane says on the weekly, and I will actually agree with you on this one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that it's very very difficult to go out
there and have a one-sided feud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's very difficult to go out there and know that right now you can go back to all the Roman ranges appearances, probably in 2026, and I bet that if you edited them together,
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[SPEAKER_02]: that you could take a piece from everyone and it'll look like one long promo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's always the same thing, acknowledge me, I'm this, I'm the Mute Needle mover.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no disputing that, but what we're disputing is that when you're in and he also said this last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, Roman is focused on the bloodline in 946.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Haven't we said that here on this show?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That you've got the World Heavyweight Champion, but yet you have him in one of the biggest group storylines on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, how is he supposed to at least respect the undisputed champion when he doesn't give Sammy the respect because they haven't over here dealing with this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That part of Sammy's promo, I also agreed with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Roman may think that he's moving the needle and he is, but right now when he's not there four weeks before Survivor Series, 10 days before Crown Jewel, what are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't hear what's Fresno.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's in the main event of Crown Jewel, which right now is a show that is on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to be there, got to be there, topic number five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to start rolling in some production into the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this one is shade without, I think,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sammy Zane, meaning to have shade.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the biggest storylines in the last couple of years is see him punk realizing his dream of man-eventing WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Recently, Sammy Zane sat down with Chris Van Vleet and he talked about the narrative of man-eventing WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Roll tape.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Here's one that I like to pick on a lot, but people were like, he was my dream to main event WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, hey, just let's hold on for a sec, okay?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this whole main event in WrestleMania thing became a talking point like in the last 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_03]: No kids like one day I'll be the main event, because you're a kid, you're not thinking, at least I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not thinking in terms of like a, you know, commercial success.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You're just thinking about like, I want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't speak for other people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take it back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I won't speak for other people.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even though the WrestleMania main event narrative is like, it's the asshole a little bit, but whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he realized at the end, oh wait a second, this was seeing punk's biggest thing and this was one of our biggest storylines.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Clock?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really understand what I just watched there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that Sammy Zayn's opinion, that's gonna be Sammy Zayn's opinion, but
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would say 90% or more that get into this business before I'm talking about before AEW even came into existence because now we have all in and there are people out there that don't really give us shit about WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So Sammy Zayn is partially correct, you know, to those people, man-of-ending all in may be their dream or someone who is now getting started in this generation that
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[SPEAKER_04]: Greatly, it poses what WWE is and what TKO is and they look at AEW is the true alternative.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe their dream is to benefit Wembley Stadium and all in and work for Tony Khan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have no idea those people do exist, but I think in our generation coach back when we had the Hogan's in the Warriors and we went into those early days of WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And we get into WrestleMania, first becoming a stadium show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would say 90% of the people that got into the business, their dream was to work for WWE and wrestle in the main event of WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That speaks like somebody that was probably told he would never main event WrestleMania based on who he is and what he looks like and, you know, aesthetically what he looks like.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that
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[SPEAKER_04]: from what I heard from Sami Zayn, this probably a lot of resentment from a lot of people telling him that he had never achieved that dream, but it also comes from someone who did main event WrestleMania, WrestleMania 39 with Kevin Owens, his best friend against the Uso's, who's a night one WrestleMania main event, but it's a main event of WrestleMania
regardless.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really understand where he was, where he was going with that, everybody's dream in this business is the main event of WrestleMania and being the main event and being the top guy in WWE, everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it was just an interesting sound by it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of different ways and you just alluded to a couple that you can go with this fans love to bring up money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about money for a second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: During my run in the attitude era and the ruthless aggression era, everybody wanted to be in the main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was talked about backstage all the time because they would make the most money.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The main event at WrestleMania was a million dollar bonus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a million dollar bonus back when they did the paper views that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would also contend you said regardless, I'm going to push back because when CM Punk main event at night one, I said on the coaching road show, it's not really the main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Their WrestleMania was never built to be a two night thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not Super Bowl night one and
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[SPEAKER_02]: In year two they put Sam punk in night two did they not did they not they did because that is the true man event in my mind of WrestleMania I don't think Vince McMahon other than money ever wanted to do it to night WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I still don't think they do But it makes a lot of freaky money and so whatever he's alluding to money status whatever I think to your point It's a gigantic chip that he has on and he also knows he's not gonna be in one ever again
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He knows that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we are halfway home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna pivot over to JD's favorite topic, AEW.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But before we do that, if you guys haven't gotten your blue chew gold yet, we'll let our man big Tommy C give you a great deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Godfather, you come into my study on the day of my daughter's wedding.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where else to turn.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My performance in the bedroom, it's not what it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need your help.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The lights go down and I've got nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've known each other many, many years.
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--> 24:37.173
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is the first time you come to me for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You found paradise in the bedroom once.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you want it back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll do anything, anything you ask.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Blue, two gold.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do this and you will never ever fear no one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That day may be tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She will call upon you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Be ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my Tommy Bear!
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[SPEAKER_00]: Time to take your blue tube goes, honey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, there is a reason Bluetooth, the number one brand for better sex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, we are moving on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're watching the two count with JD and the coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now let's shift over for a few minutes to AEW and they love labeling shows, they love branding shows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually like that because it makes things a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now we've got blood and guts and I saw some of your content.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw some of your tweets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there an appetite JD now for blood and guts?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, the floor is yours.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, W, of course, I don't know, man, I was on something on Wednesday when I was You were.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tony's not gonna listen, Tony doesn't care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of shows right now on the calendar that are kind of overlapping each other.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We go from one paper view to a theme dynamite to Grant's land to this, to that into a next, a full gear's coming up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we just got down what Russell dream and we're going right into blood and guts and then from blood and guts into full gear.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There's not enough time coach for things to breathe.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why he put the calendar set the calendar the way that he did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Blutting guts this year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't care who needs to hear it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The sick owes in the chat or Tony Con himself is one of the most unnecessary matches in the history of AEW this year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It started off is something good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It started off is something that they took from a Vince McMahon statement at a conference call with shareholders, which is great because it goes against the narrative and they want to be the they want to be the cool kids in school.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But now you look at a coach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything came about in the most haphazard, laziest, less second type of way on Dynamite.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They paired these six men on one side, six men on the other 12 guys altogether within a 15 minute segment.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then they expect me to care about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then on top of that, we get Steve Borden, who just got concussed at the last pay preview.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're throwing them right into a fucking war games match.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand how lazy and how stupid some of the decisions are coming from AEW and then the women's match.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's even more unnecessary.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why do we need the one thing I want change in all a pro wrestling is the the annual gimmick match that needs to happen every
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[SPEAKER_04]: October or every November because it's a certain time of year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How about we build a story around it, give it some actual effort, have it happen all year long, and then use it when it's necessary instead of killing a gimmick, and then tiring the fan base out on.
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[SPEAKER_04]: How about that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's unnecessary coaches.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The only thing I could say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I saw someone in the chest.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's not a paper if you're not the NAW we use names and I don't even say paper view or not because of how Tony Khan books it here's the bottom line when you're talking about the female side of things in AEW hell maybe even WWE if you're not building story lines and then you throw in blood and guts
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[SPEAKER_02]: all you're looking for is a bloody guts type of match for women that you haven't seen on the show maybe in months and then to your point you throw in somebody who had a severe concussion that was nearly knocked out for a significant period of time and he's going to be a part of this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Tony's got a really, really think because the sick goes
there's only so many of them and if you want a random person walking down the street to tune into your show and I'm tired of hearing the bullshit about we're not trying to win then why are you in business?
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[SPEAKER_02]: because right now, there's only so many matches you can watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's only so many suplexes and power slams and whatever else.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta have stories and make us care.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we watch these matches and all these shows.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Harley, Cameron, and Chris that land are in the women's blood and guts match.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They haven't been on TV in months.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What are they doing there?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember when blood and guts used to draw 12,000 at the Brudential Center in New Jersey Coach, you know, they don't even have 4,000 out the door for this blood and guts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just saw Harley Cameron doing her thing with the puppet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to work for Tony Khan, but let me tell you, he needs people like us around him to be honest with him, because whoever is doing his videos, three, two, take the count out of it, please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna have a great collision tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's not what a CEO does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Put together a show that people care about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not matches that you think you care about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, topic number seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this has been a big one when it comes to AEW, the Hertz Syndicate and what's out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I watched it melt to the other day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he loves to use absolutes where he goes, well, everybody knows that this was supposed to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This no Dave, they don't know because people don't follow it like you think that they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But MVP has been very vocal lately about Triple H and that the dirt sheets are lying about the Hertz Syndicate not wanting to lose to certain people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you make of all this with MVP at the center of it who I like very much and I get along with very very well as I do a Shelton as I do with Bobby Lashley your take clock go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think MVP's got a great mind for the business, but I also think MVP is full of shit when it comes to this specific topic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Coach, I want to read to you what Tony Khan said about the hurts in the gets absence on A.W.
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[SPEAKER_04]: television and this boggles my fucking mind how nobody in the community pushes back on Tony Khan because when I read to you his reply is to why they're not on television, you are going to look at him
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[SPEAKER_04]: just in a very bizarre way, who says her syndicate and make folly both involved in double or nothing, which they were, which I thought was one of our best shows of the year like that matters, and AEW all in London, one of our best shows of the year as if that matters here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In the ring, the hurts in the get have said they are for hire, so we could see them any place any time.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think for the right amount of money and certainly one thing they did not want to do was beat up big justice and the risler.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They were happy to work with big boom AJ, big justice in the risler and turn things around.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They won't just work for anybody, but they are for hire under the right circumstances, kind of like the 18th and I think it will be interesting to see when they next get involved.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So you, you, you, you don't have one of the more popular groups that when they got there, they were fucking hot as ever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They get there and then all of a sudden they win the 18 titles.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They beat a young upstart team in private party and then they hold the titles and then they work with a couple of more other big time teams like FTR and Bro Dito and it teams like that and then all of a sudden they lose the titles and then they're not on TV anymore again.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It makes me wonder why, but Tony Con here is giving us a reason that they're for higher and that they don't want, they're not on TV, but they'll work for Big Justice in the fucking Resler.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you out of your fucking mind?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I-Rit Resler is very popular.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I will say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, who wants to work with Big Justice in a, and Big Bull may jay?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I've heard so many people say Bobby Lash, who should be in the main event scene on Dynamite, and he's not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, if you just read
that statement that you read from Tony Khan and it and there wasn't a name attached to it, you would swear that it was either a 16 year old watching the show giving his take or a young Tony Khan, which is what he is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that is talking about the show as if it is real life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tony, this is a show that you put together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These are guys that you pay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of the most dynamic three sums to ever hit wrestling and it's because of you that they're going through.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is because of you that they're not on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So to say you never know when they're not going to show is ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is because you control where they fall up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're paying them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I really don't understand it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The point of the matter is chat.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The reason why the hurts in the get is an on television is because Tony Kant took them off television, because they didn't want to lose and they didn't want to lose to bigger name talent and much smaller talent.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because you look at Bobby Lashley's bigger than 98% of that roster.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Bobby Lashley doesn't want to lose.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Fuck.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Speedball Mike Bailey or fucking Commander.
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[SPEAKER_04]: or these guys that Tony Conn is in love with, and additionally, if Tony Conn is paying these people to work for him, Tony Conn books the show and tells everybody who wins and who loses, get them on television, you are the boss, you make the decisions, enough for this bullshit, buddy, buddy with the roster, it's tiresome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if there were storylines, and this is what you're supposed to have in WWE, but all three of these guys were involved in WWE when there were pretty good storylines, and they would not have an issue losing to anyone if it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I think both things can be true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what you're saying can be true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think what they're saying can be true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you just go out there and have matches and you're just losing for no reason and there is no interference or there's no storyline or nobody's hurt or whatever it is, that's why we keep saying Tony give us storylines then you won't have to deal with this stuff because all these guys are veterans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They understand it can be a win-win even when you lose.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Imagine having Sheldon Benjamin on your roster who is a human walking fountain of youth.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you don't have him on your fucking shell.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you ready to mind?
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[SPEAKER_02]: topic number eight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go to the women, which have not been a focus for either company as of late last night, even though Stephanie Vaker and the entire women's division are posting pictures at the pool at Jimmy C. sides, not caring about the feud on TV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We now got the hot announcement at the start of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Monday night, Raul last night, the Stephanie Vicarro was not medically cleared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So now Becky is here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She got a little bit of an ovation, but then when he announced that it was live, that would then be defending her title in the place, they got a nice little ovation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the announcer says, oh, how can Adam Pierce make live compete when she didn't come here ready to compete?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every night you show up, you should be ready to compete.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So clock are these the two best right now after a, what a three or four segment main event last night with no bloodline, no 946, but these two, somehow are in the main event.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, Becky Lynch should be in the main event because she is main event live Morgan.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I don't think I would have given live Morgan the women's championship to begin with.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I think that's a mistake.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you're going to give live Morgan the championship, then rocks and pressure to one money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And clearly, WWE didn't go that direction.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know coach, I mean, everything is just in a holding pattern.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We're not even waiting for Stephanie for care to get back to television because I don't think she's really going to factor into anything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She's already two-time women's champion.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think WWE is again looking to get through crowns rule, and I think what last night did more than anything was set the tone for what will be the women's war games match.
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[SPEAKER_04]: it will be judgment day and two others against the baby faces here which you can see Stephanie's probably going
to be back for war games Becky and then we're going to get E.O.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and Tiffany and Chelsea and then whatever they decide to do with Tiffany Shratt and catching in on Chelsea green whether that's going to happen as a failed cash in and then she turns heel or she's going to realize that I've now attempted twice to cash in on the
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she's going to end up catching in on Chelsea Green because that's the easy way for a championship.
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[SPEAKER_04]: At the end of the day, it is very difficult for me to care coach to be quite honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: War game shouldn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: None of it is interesting.
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are people at the top that I don't really care to see at the top.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tiffany is boring money in the backholder Chelsea Green.
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[SPEAKER_04]: WWE hasn't really done her any favors.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all Slop coach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all Slop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: always still got to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got to make sure EOS guys in there so we get the, you know, 90 second climb to the top and put the trash can over and so eight people stand there and catcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think last night what they're trying to do, if it's even a thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is what we haven't featured any of these women at the top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Becky probably said something and this was never supposed to be a thing to at least in my mind.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was supposed to be Becky and Steph and I think they're trying to re-establish Becky, at least on Monday and I raw, as the top name, as the greatest ever, as the one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think last night live proved maybe if you're just looking at a reaction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that live may have overtaken Becky as the favorite as the most popular, as the best, would you agree with that or disagree with that?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I live as popular, I don't want to dumb down her popularity, but is she is she more popular than Becky Lynch, I'm going to say no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting because and I hate booking for I hate the word pop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about pop all the time and last night did and I think it was just the reaction to Stephanie not being there and then finding out live would be stepping in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think more people are frustrated with live Morgan than anything.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The judgment day has seen its day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's run.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's course.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Live Morgan is a champion.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think people even wanted to see it again anyway because people want different colors.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think now more than ever people want different Roxanne Perez was that different for people.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Tiffany Stratton was in that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would have had either J.C. Jane or somebody in there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Someone who's been doing something wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that you brought that up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's topic number nine is we're going to go over to SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something new.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now for me, for me, Rocktail Rod Regas is nine months past where they should have started building her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Vince McMahon when I worked with him, he loved big.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you have a last legend, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, it's Rock Hill, Rodriguez.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what we saw on SmackDown, to me, when are we gonna start featuring her?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's just focus on the totality of what we saw Friday on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does that do anything on that show to get you interested?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Clock?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: SmackDown has its own set of problems, especially in the women's division.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, if you don't care about what's happening on Raw and that division is loaded, then you're not going to care about what's happening on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We have Tate and Paxley and Alexa Bliss lose the tag team title.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's the beefab and meat shin.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, Chad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't give a single shit about that nor does anybody else Charlottes taking the backstage role.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Rio is out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know when she's getting back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully by that Australian show in December.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Bianca Belair, huge question mark.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they are two huge names that this company is sorely missing right now.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then you got Naya and you got Lash and you got Candace Loray and
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[SPEAKER_04]: coach, the whole division on SmackDown is just this talent there, but again, it is very difficult to care.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The one woman, Julia, I love Julia.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wish they would do more with Julia, but I think that that's, that's, that's bodicell.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's over.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If they didn't push her, they're not going to push her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The one name that I'm focusing on here, that WWE needs to push.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She's money.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She can work and she can cut a promo.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why in the absence of Bianca and Rhea Ripley Blake Monroe isn't at the top of this division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She has legitimately everything that Vince would die for.
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[SPEAKER_04]: at the top of a woman's division.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why isn't this woman who made her debut early this summer?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And now we're going through October.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why are we not focusing on her?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Why isn't she further along?
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's the woman that should be at the top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think to bring her into the conversation leads to the bigger conversation of, I think that this is now becoming like little league, a participation sport.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she was kind of the last one to be brought up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they look at and go, and this drives me nuts when I watch this on Run Real and I watch Bruce Go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, she's just not ready yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He, she's not ready to to be in a one on one match on a big PLE because we saw it with Chelsea and now we're seeing it with Blake Monroe Blake Monroe has everything like it's her to me it's for Cal, but then also if you look at it there are I believe for three.
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[SPEAKER_02]: woman factions on SmackDown alone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That screams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we've got all this talent showing up every week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do we use them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's throw them together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you're a like a JC Jane, who I think is a dynamic heal and you're in a big faction, you've got to pull out of that sometimes because she's the star of that faction.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But right now, because there's so much limited TV time.
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--> 42:46.749
[SPEAKER_02]: And I believe this is also why they're willing to go back to three hours.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: because you've got 12 women that are in four spots and that's an issue and I don't think they realize it because they're so busy turning out shows that I would target my biggest single star and say to everybody else you know what guys I'm sorry you're ladies I'm sorry I'm going with JC Blake
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the OGs are still there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the tough decision that you have to make.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is Wendy, you let the OGs go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they rely on factions because they don't want to go and do their job and actually flesh out characters individually.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So they take a weaker characters that they don't care for and put them with other top stars and hope for that rub from the top star.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And it never works out that way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Look at BFab, look at Mechatia, look at Jake Cargill.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Do any of them matter that their paired with Jake Cargill?
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[SPEAKER_04]: No.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, bro, don't get me started on J.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're gonna pay them.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're putting Tatum with Bliss and Charlotte and Tatum hasn't benefited at all because the stories that they're telling are, they're not good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: They're not good, they're not good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, top big number of 10, speaking of Robbs, speaking of Superstars, speaking of future stars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's give it to him, JD, that the OGs don't wanna show up early.
43:56.261 --> 44:01.085
[SPEAKER_02]: You haven't seen CM Punk on RAW, Romans here and there, but the young guys, the obus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the Javan who was there last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The LA night, who was not there last night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you've got Bron Branker, who was there, but inexplicably he is attacking Pinta.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At some point, these youngsters, and we've heard rumors that Ron has not been happy with his character.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot blame him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He should be one of the top three or four guys on the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So right now with all these names, not even really being a part of what they're building into Survivor Series, where are you at on the younger town?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know LA 944, but he feels like he is part of this group.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Clock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's had a very good post-Somerslam.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Pre-Rustle Mani, it was lower off.
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[SPEAKER_04]: The Hurney injury set him back and then Rollins getting hurt, set him back and he was just a lost puppy on Monday night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think now with Oba being there, it's kind of a little fire underneath him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Giovanna is a little fire underneath him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Penta, WWE went with Penta because they see more money in Penta than they do Braum Breaker.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, his money in the bank briefcase, his signature briefcase, his sold out till February March.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I went on WWE shop.
45:14.779 --> 45:18.583
[SPEAKER_04]: There was over 2,000 people with it in their carts, that briefcase.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's making money hand over fist.
45:20.644 --> 45:24.888
[SPEAKER_04]: So Brown Breaker has had a rough go, but money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Really set him apart from everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He got a great money in the bank.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was the MVP.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He looks ferocious.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's back to his old form.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think if he keeps on this course,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it'll be fine and I don't know where they go into Survivor Series because we got the two war games matches and then whatever the big guys are going to do, the WWE title and what these younger guys are going to do, I've lobbied for for many years because I do think that we get tired of war games every year because the Survivor Series we got to see war games.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would love because I'm an old schoolhead and I do believe that what's old is new and if you really work with it and make it feel important that it's got a place on the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would love to see Triple X book a traditional survivor series match with Brombraker Penta with with Javan Evans with Oba.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's right there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's right there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If he doesn't do it, then I don't think Triple Lates deserves the spot that he's in right now, because that sells itself.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And you make it feel important for his survivor series.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that'll be bigger than Williams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the rules of war games are such that you know you're going to be sitting there for 50 minutes before anything happens and they're banking on big
spots and last year we almost saw you know a couple guys break their neck that just waiting for everybody to get into the match and then it was over very very quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see a traditional.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how the rock was debuted 30 years ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The traditional survivor series around Thanksgiving, I think a lot of old could be new now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go back to all the stuff that we're talking about, the traditional matches, the character development, and if I'm Ron Breaker and I'm using him,
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're using him to prop up whatever is left of the vision and right now There's social media videos with us in theory and I don't think that obviously Logan Paul's not healthy enough to work anymore But I like that they're using it and then you got Bronson read so either build this up or break him out of it no pun intended because right now him being a tag champion is
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[SPEAKER_02]: to him, to me, he's bigger than that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's way bigger than me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think WWE thinks that way too, which is why they booked that tag team.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So how to match for crown jewel, I do think Pentant and Javad Evans are gonna be the new tag team champions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And when that happens, the prombreaker needs to be on his own as they may in event act.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they all go, if they all go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, our extra segment, we call it the kick out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, a couple of weeks ago, they did a dark match between Cody and, oh my God, who am I, who am I thinking of?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Cody and Sammy saying that was a dark match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was old schools what we should do when I was there full time and we knew that we're going to do something whether we said YouTube whatever So they have put it on club WWE exclusively for club members to be able to watch no issue with that
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[SPEAKER_02]: But now the other guy that has been pushing club WWE relentlessly is one John Cena and he has said in all these interviews lately I'm done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not working anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll never see me in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when he is your big push and your big announcement for next Monday night
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[SPEAKER_02]: All I saw was people going up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to sell something again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't sell 946.
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[SPEAKER_02]:
They didn't sell Roman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're selling John Cena live with an early start next week in Brooklyn.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Clock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where do you think he's going to do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, uh, there's two things that come to mind.
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[SPEAKER_04]: One, I hope he isn't a walking advertisement for something that I need to spend money on because I don't think anybody wants to see that or hear that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It is the biggest city in the world and they're bringing John Cena into the Barclay Center.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What I would do is you got nine four six run around saying nobody say if you really want to make an impact and really make this group of fucking threat on the show.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have nine four six absolutely demolished John Cena right there in the middle of the ring and just tear him apart.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's unexpected.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's something that gives that entire group a volatile brutal feel.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I would do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Take a risk and beat the shit out of
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[SPEAKER_04]: I know that's not going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's that's just out there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I would do it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: What I do think they are bringing John Cena in for is because he's been talking about the John Cena classic a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's getting more and more questions.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He said last time that they have a foundation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't know whether the voting is going to be the way that they kind of advance people in this tournament.
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[SPEAKER_04]: or whatever this this concept is going to be.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think that he is going to announce what the John Cena classic is going to be and where it will be and when we will see it, which I think is a long time coming because this is now months and months and months of just living in the dark on it and I think WWE owes us that because we all assume coach that it would take place to the one year anniversary of him retiring last year on December 13th.
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[SPEAKER_04]: December is fast approaching.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, by the time we get to next week, it's going to be November.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not much time to sell a John Cena classic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I think that's what the announcement's going to be and it absolutely should be the case.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't ever remember, and I travel with John for several months back in the day, love John, a company guy, almost to a fault sometimes, and I've never seen an announcement that was supposed to be this big thing, being announced before they even had it fleshed out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, okay, so they got a little bit of time, then they put them on all these different shows, and all like today's show and all these are asking about the John scene of classic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, not quite sure what it's going to, I'm like, what's taking so long to figure out what this thing is going to be?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He tweeted this out this morning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Quote, make sure not to miss WWE Raw next week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Special start time six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eastern, the weight is over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The speculation ends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's build this never-seen classic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Our time is now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's about the John Cena classic apparently, apparently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I like your idea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, hold up better than that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I believe they're also going to say that the John Cena Classic is going to be on Club WWE.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if that's the case, the crowd and the fan base is going to shred it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It can't be behind another paywall.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It can't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't think they do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think they use it as a catcher programming tool against AEW.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think whatever, whatever weekend world's end takes place on, I think we'll see the Johnson and Classic.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If not, that's the same week and the same day as the world's end.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a tough time of year, though, to sell, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when you get into the holiday season, selling tickets when other people are buying Christmas presents is really, really difficult.
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[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, the blood and guts discussion we were having, apparently, NXT is moving their show for a couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So apparently, the night of blood and guts will be opposite NXT.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you think that will go real quick?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think that's I don't know why they're being preempted off Tuesday, but now that they are going to dynamites normal time on a Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think that they will absolutely load that show up on NXT.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think main roster stars will be there and I do think that they will do anything they can to steal the thunder away from dynamite on their home turf.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's election night, which is why NXT's being moved, because it's Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here in Texas, they vote on Sundays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a crazy thing I've ever seen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's just a one week thing, but it will be very, very interesting to see what they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I do agree with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna load it up real quick on the John Cena situation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you guys have any super chats or anything, I gotta rush real quick out of here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get him in right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna be running.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you think, Cena, because I said the other day,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Despite the movies and the commercial all that, I feel like he's trying to find what fills his life, what fills his time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he always says, I'm never walking away from WWE.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think scene is right now on WWE and wrestling fitting into his life?
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think as far as a performer for as long as he's done it, I don't think it's ever going to go away.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he has come to the realization that he cannot continue to put his body through it, but he wants to be there mentally and he wants to be there for the company and give his knowledge to those that could use it for
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the better of the company.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think he wants to be a part of it in some way, shape, perform, which is why he hopes his legacy and his name will continue on with the Johnson and Classic of it, thus turning to an annual thing.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I joke, because I see him on Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he's, I didn't know he was, I know he's a big whiskey guy, but I didn't know he was a big coffee guy.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So he's been posted a lot a lot to a lot of art and and and just cafes around the world that he's been visiting and every picture that you see on his Instagram recently is a picture of a beautiful latte so maybe coffee is in his future I don't know maybe he wants an open open up a coffee shop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe he wants to get into that realm.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_04]: But maybe I didn't know you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You are you are correct, Coach.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I do think that he is and just like anybody else because I have family who retired and it took them four or five months to finally find their way after retirement because they didn't know what they wanted to do.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, we're going on a full year.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think John Cena is still very much being that he's been there 25 years.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Still trying to find his way.
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's tough.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I can imagine it's fucking tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's really hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I spent six to eight months when I left WWE because remember, we were on the road five days a week if you count travel and I would wake up in sweats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be choking because I thought I had missed a flight and for over 10 years, I had never missed but one Monday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I would literally have panic attacks because I saw Vince McMahon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw him fire people for not getting to shows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh my god, I've never missed a show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that took damn near eight months, damn near eight months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's terrifying when your body tells you something and yet you're not doing it again anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's very, very, very, very interesting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, incredible show today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys very much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember, we are now exploding around the globe real quick before we get out of here on Roku on Amazon Fire, YouTube, Facebook, all of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where can all of the good people see your stuff, JD?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Make sure you guys follow me on Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on TikTok.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I have live streams every night, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, for all paper views from a W for all PLEs on WWE and I got a flagship show called Tuesday and I titans with the Salomonster who is also one of the bigger names in the community.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And he is my co-host on Tuesday night's 830 PM every Tuesday.
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[SPEAKER_04]: We go over the weekly news rumors and just have a great time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely love it real quick one super chat scene opens up a coffee shop called you can't beat that's funny Jd will be first in line happy Tuesday guys live from the other Bahamas That would be hilarious if if you did that if if you can't be me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That'd be very very very very creative very creative
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... Dan my guy gift to one uh... premium membership thank you dance so much you're so uh... incredibly all you guys really are and you're always spreading the word of this show of jd's brand of our brand and right now i feel like we're and i don't know if you feel this way jd we're in a pivotal time in the media space in the wrestling space and i feel like while other people are dropping off or maybe
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[SPEAKER_02]: And coach and bro and your brand because we get emotional.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but we are objective about what we're watching Don't you feel like this is kind of a almost a shift lately.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you feel that way?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I do yeah, I I feel like some weeks bigger than some I feel like right now a lot of Frustration and a lot of this interest is being handed by a lot of fans right now But I do think that they're interested in the product is being upheld by what we do what we say and our shows
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I think that a lot of people are maintaining their interest in pro wrestling through us and they're watching and listening vicariously through us because sometimes they don't want to watch and they rather watch us do it which I greatly appreciate because I get that comment more than anything else every single week.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No doubt about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Intertain, educate, learn, laugh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's emotional.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can be funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can be emotional.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have to insult.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of you, you guys were great today, so thank you for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to get out of here from my man, JD, producer man behind the scenes, always doing all the work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember, go to my social media, go to ask, go to Instagram, I'll have a post up there as we have now grown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My name is the coach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are live every single Tuesday at 11.30 a.m. Eastern Time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you next time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And thank you guys so very much for watching.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is only one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We call it the two count.