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Speaker 1: No, but it's after seix. Good morning two you, and welcome to Thursday and five double a breakfast. It is the third of July. Let's just do the obligatory cold check show. He six point three degrees at the moment, so similar to yesterday. Not as cold as it's been, but a bit like heat. It feels like it settles in, so it is cool outside. That is of no surprise, Nor is the fact that we have a big program on the way this morning. Rob Brokenshaw is going to join us after six fifteen after our news headlines this morning, and so too Sue Scarman. With regard to the fact that's Golden North on the move. This is a real good news bad news story. Bad news for the poor town of Laura, but good news for murray Bridge. We'll talk more about that. Also, we are going to be chatting with John Schumann, who's playing at the GARV a little bit later in the year in August, in fact, looking forward to that. We'll take you through some of the big developing stories overnight, like the outcome of the p Diddy trial, where the jury has returned a mixed verdict on a host of counts. Also, as you just heard with Jade Robert in five Double A News Today. It was on this morning ten years ago that the news came through that Crow's coach Phil Walsh had been killed. One of the darkest days in the history of football. This morning when we chatting with Scott CAMPERRELLI so picture this your camp's the assistant coach. It was on this day ten years ago that he heard that tragic news about his colleague. It was two days later that he was named as the head coach of the Adelaide Football Club and had to do something no interim coach had ever had to navigate in the history of football. And he went from the third what was Friday then to the Sunday and that that was his reality. We're going to be talked to him about that after Eat thirty today. David Penworthy, good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Good morning listeners, Good morning will It's hard to believe it's ten years ago. It feels like I can remember. It is like a JFK moment. And I don't mean that for the enormity of it in a historical sense, obviously, even though it was a huge story Australia, why had given Walsh's links to so many other clubs. There's a great piece in the TiSER today about all of his ex teammates at Brisbane and his great relationship with Mark Williams. How and when Mark became the Port coach, the first person he called was Phil Walsh. This was a death that affected clubs well beyond Adelaide, but for people in Adelaide, I reckon everyone can remember where they were. It takes you back to a moment. I was on a staircase at a hotel in Palm Cave, Queensland, because it was in the middle of the July holidays for us and I was getting suitcases lacking them down the stairs. I can't remember who rang me.
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Speaker 1: It might have been.
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Speaker 2: It might have been a call from our station manager about it, saying this is about to break and it was like good God, Like it was really really hard to wrap your head around what had occurred. And you know, it's I think that in a community sense. You know, we talk about the pending trial in Gilberton from a couple of weeks ago, we talk about the Port Lincoln story that has dominated the headlines this week. How bad are we as a community at managing mental health problems? You know, there was this constant intersection between the health system and the criminal justice system.
Speaker 1: No, but it's after seix. Good morning two you, and welcome to Thursday and five double a breakfast. It is the third of July. Let's just do the obligatory cold check show. He six point three degrees at the moment, so similar to yesterday. Not as cold as it's been, but a bit like heat. It feels like it settles in, so it is cool outside. That is of no surprise, Nor is the fact that we have a big program on the way this morning. Rob Brokenshaw is going to join us after six fifteen after our news headlines this morning, and so too Sue Scarman. With regard to the fact that's Golden North on the move. This is a real good news bad news story. Bad news for the poor town of Laura, but good news for murray Bridge. We'll talk more about that. Also, we are going to be chatting with John Schumann, who's playing at the GARV a little bit later in the year in August, in fact, looking forward to that. We'll take you through some of the big developing stories overnight, like the outcome of the p Diddy trial, where the jury has returned a mixed verdict on a host of counts. Also, as you just heard with Jade Robert in five Double A News Today. It was on this morning ten years ago that the news came through that Crow's coach Phil Walsh had been killed. One of the darkest days in the history of football. This morning when we chatting with Scott CAMPERRELLI so picture this your camp's the assistant coach. It was on this day ten years ago that he heard that tragic news about his colleague. It was two days later that he was named as the head coach of the Adelaide Football Club and had to do something no interim coach had ever had to navigate in the history of football. And he went from the third what was Friday then to the Sunday and that that was his reality. We're going to be talked to him about that after Eat thirty today. David Penworthy, good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Good morning listeners, Good morning will It's hard to believe it's ten years ago. It feels like I can remember. It is like a JFK moment. And I don't mean that for the enormity of it in a historical sense, obviously, even though it was a huge story Australia, why had given Walsh's links to so many other clubs. There's a great piece in the TiSER today about all of his ex teammates at Brisbane and his great relationship with Mark Williams. How and when Mark became the Port coach, the first person he called was Phil Walsh. This was a death that affected clubs well beyond Adelaide, but for people in Adelaide, I reckon everyone can remember where they were. It takes you back to a moment. I was on a staircase at a hotel in Palm Cave, Queensland, because it was in the middle of the July holidays for us and I was getting suitcases lacking them down the stairs. I can't remember who rang me.
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Speaker 1: It might have been.
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Speaker 2: It might have been a call from our station manager about it, saying this is about to break and it was like good God, Like it was really really hard to wrap your head around what had occurred. And you know, it's I think that in a community sense. You know, we talk about the pending trial in Gilberton from a couple of weeks ago, we talk about the Port Lincoln story that has dominated the headlines this week. How bad are we as a community at managing mental health problems? You know, there was this constant intersection between the health system and the criminal justice system.
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Speaker 1: I can think.
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Speaker 2: Readily of probably five other cases that have happened in the past ten years along similar lines to the real estate Yeah, yep, so we're not getting any better at it, are we. No, No, you're right, it's become it's become a semi regular these sorts of things that was jarring because of the profile of the person involved, and.
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Speaker 1: It just needs not something that happens.
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Speaker 2: No, but but the thing is actually but you're right to talk about it with all like, what a remarkable story, what a horribly what a horribly out of the box thing to have occurred. Well, it's actually not remarkable at all. No commonplace. There's a story in Queensland that's about to break that is along the exact same lines as this one. You know, kids attacking their parents is not or random people in an incredibly violent way on account of their illnesses is like, it's reasonably common.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder to what extent this case actually heightened awareness of this thing up, this sort of thing going on too, because I just remember the disbelief talking about it with people at the time. Now it could make sense of it. Why how did it get to this? Look, I think if something similar happened today, we jumped to that possibility much quicker. Like a lot of it bore out in the trial, and you know, there was obviously drugs and the combination with those two things in mental health. But I think this was the case that made us super aware of this kind of thing going on where it had been bubbling along, but because of the profile of the people involved and the fact that everyone engaged with the blither But there's plenty of people that don't engage with the news every day, but no one of what could avoid engaging with this story. It was everywhere. Yeah, and I think yeah, I mean for.
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Speaker 2: The actual circumstances, Well, there's no precedent for this happening, though. I don't think there's any time in history when a coach has actually been murdered in the middle of a season. Coaches have died, There's been other bad things that have happened to clubs, probably Darren Malane Collingwood and obviously John McCartney at Port Adelaide. Both of those deaths were in the off season. It wasn't like the club had and that doesn't finish their impact, but it eliminates the logistics of it where and this is what we're going to talk to Campo about. I mean, I meant to play Geelong three days after poor walshe passedor we.
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Speaker 1: Also said it was on a Friday, so it wasn't these days we used to Thursday night football. That wasn't a concept ten years ago, and it was Friday night and so football was meant to be played and ultimately it did get played, as you can to hear over the course of the morning today. But that remarkable day ten years ago, on this day in Adelaide, sixteen minutes after six, we'll take a quick break. News headlines coming up in just a moment.
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Speaker 3: David Penberthy and World Goodings five Double a Breakfast.
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Speaker 1: Not a minutes after six, news yesterday came through that Golden North is on the move. They're relocating production from Laura to murray Bridge. What is one town's loss is another town's game here in South Australia. Robert Brokenschiw is the president of the Essay Dairy Farmers Association and joins us now on five Double A Breakfast. Rob goodbrying to you, how are you feeling about the Golden North expansion and move.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, good morning Will and David. Well as far as Laura goes, obviously it's a sad day for Laura the announcement yesterday, but the state government are going to do the best they can to help Laura's township and also find other jobs and facilitate opportunities for those workers. But for the South Australian dairy industry, the Golden North announcement yesterday was a real, real good bit of news to be honest, in what's been a pretty dark space with the drought for all farmers, including dairy. But this will allow growth of Golden North, it will allow opportunities for exporting. There a lot of Golden North product in time throughout Australia and internationally and importantly for us as dairy farmers that they'll be looking for more milk and that's what we need, competition within our industry.
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Speaker 1: It's basically our grown. Laura hasn't it, Rob.
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Speaker 4: Laura has been there for one hundred years providing what is the top product, and I know Golden North are acutely aware of that. You know what Laura have provided Golden North, and they haven't taken this decision lightly, but sometimes you have to move on. And unfortunately, you know, one stage, there were fifty dairy farmers in that area. Now they're about thirteen, and those dairy farmers, I understandable, got solid contracts with their suppliers. So Golden North future as far as milk supply goes, and also as far as a lot of the input requirements to produce ice cream products is really now in the central area, so it's the River Murray, the Murray Lakes and the Furio Peninsula, and that's one of the other reasons why they needed to move. They also can expand and grow their business because they've got a lot of opportunity for big freezer space and palette space and general diversification of production over in murray Bridge. So there were sound reasons for their decision, but particularly because we need a long shelf life dairy process for here. It was important for our industry that we could pick up where best and gone into administration, and we lost that opportunity. So now we've got a long shelf life product for the spring that will offset the flush of milk we have that we need to get to sell during that period.
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Speaker 1: That's what's tricky to talk about because there are winners. Clearly, it's a South Australian business expanding and moving to employ more South of Australians. But in the Laura component of this, I mean this is a township with a fewer than a thousand people. This employed eighty people, fifty of them full time. Now not everyone obviously lives in the immediate surrounds, but you just think about that in your head as a proportion how much up people there'll be. That's why the state government committed some one million dollars to a commuted infrastructure program to support the township. Sue Scarman is the Northern Area's council mayor. Are so, good morning to.
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Speaker 5: You, Good morning, how are you?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, well, Sue, does the does the state government support go far enough?
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Speaker 5: We get to find that out. I mean it is early days only announced yesterday. So yeah, we're scrambling thinking what can we do to bring some life back into our economy because Golden North has been a huge part of our economy for over one hundred years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So if you did a word association game, like if you say Laura, everyone immediately says Golden North, Like is there is there a second biggest employer in town.
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Speaker 5: What would it be agriculture that's the biggest employer as far as a business.
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Speaker 2: No, yeah, not like there's no big like factory wise, there's nothing that can absorb that many jobs, is there.
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Speaker 5: No, not currently, So we're going to have to go and look for something to replace it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we're going to hold the government to account and make sure that they keep paying attention on this one, so we'll stay in touch with you on it. Mayor and to Rob Breakinshaw, I thank you as well for joining us this morning.
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Speaker 1: It's twenty four minutes after six and breaking international news this morning as Sean Diddy Combs has dropped his knees and prayed in the courtroom after being acquitted of sex trafficking and racketeering charges that could have put him in jail for the rest of his life. He was, however, convicted of the lesser prostitution related offenses and still faces prison time. Doug Wigna is the lawyer for Cassie Ventura, a former girlfriend who gave evidence during the trial.
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Speaker 6: Well please that he's finally been held responsible for two federal crimes, something that he's never faced in his life.
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Speaker 7: He still faces substantial jail time.
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Speaker 8: Of course, we would have liked to have seen a conviction on the sex crimes en Rico, but we understand beyond O reasonable doubt as a high standard.
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Speaker 1: It feels like this is one of the cases where all the evidence points to the fact that he's guilty of being a total creep. Yeah, but not necessarily meaning that the legal definition of things like racketeering or well they got him for prostitution, though, they got in for prostitution, which could still attract jail time. Yeah, maximum ten years. There's no other cases pending, though, Is this is this the is this? I think this is the sum of it.
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Speaker 9: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's a bit of a damn script then is Yeah, in terms of the result, especially remember our dramatic the raid on his house was yeah I did and yeah, hm.
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Speaker 2: I wonder I wonder if the sort of Hollywood's capacity to forgive will kick in from here on in or the Hollywood, but the entertainment industry more broadly, there's.
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Speaker 1: Some elements I'm sure will. I mean, hell, Kanye still gets booked. Well, we've got banned from entering Australia. By Tony Burke yesterday. That must have been the easiest visa application rejection that's ever been done in the history of Australia.
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Speaker 2: I reckon, what does it mean for his wife though, because she's from Melbourne. You've got to be out to let her she's Australian, I know, but I suppose Well they're apparently on the rocks anyway. See, you know, quite a strange relationship.
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Speaker 1: Boost to very peculiar. Police and emergency services were at the scene of a serious crash involving two cars north of Adelaide on Wednesday night. Emergency services were called to Malila Road and Port Wakefield Highway after reports of a two vehicle collision happened during the peak out about five point thirty pm. It's not yet known the extent of the injury sustained to the occupants of the vehicles that was involved in that crash. We will be checking with SAPOWL very shortly. Very interesting piece in the OLS this morning that draws a conclusion that I don't think will surprise anyone, but it feels like it's got some finality to it. Australia is no closer to securing a tariff deal. It's no closer to finding out whether ORCAS is a go or a no either. That's despite the fact that Penny Wong met the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Quad partners in Washington, d C. It sounds like a lot of that big picture stuff was sidelined. But the OLDS has clearly spoken to some high ranking labor people who are privy to the negotiations, who effectively said what we've been seeing the whole time. We're not given up on the PBS and we're not giving up rigorous quarantine standards, and they're the kind of two things that we've got to negotiate on that the US are interested in. So in their absence, there's not going to be much to talk about. It not much to talk about. Now here's the thing, ninth of July, so so six days away I thought this was this was interesting and important reporting as well. Ninth of July is when the tariff reprieve ends, and it sounds like they come slapping straight back on. Also sounds like it's around the timeline for the ORCST announcement the US review into Aucers, So in the next week there's going to be We're going to get a real, real insight in our relationship with the United States. So the review is going to be concluded next week. But that's what they're saying. Yeah, that's the Olds seemed to suggest it the timeline, well, yeah, month ago. Yeah, they were saying that, well, there'll be some indication around that point in time, given that.
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Speaker 2: Donald loves the art of the deal, there's not much to do a deal over.
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Speaker 1: If we're going to say that. Neither of those things are on the table exactly seventeen. They expect the top today right now, though outside it is seven degrees nineteen Friday and the weekend up to nine meals on Saturday and seventeen, the expected top up to eight meals and fifteen on Sunday. Tom Rens in the five double a breakfast studio Thursday morning meets footage just around the corner. Any good morning to.
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Speaker 10: You morning boys.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I heard you're talking about their ten year anniversary since that tragic passing. It's important that you commemorate that. So looking forward to hearing from Campo, who was you know, I think the caretaker coach at the time. So looking forward to that. But just on the AFL this weekend, I don't know if this has ever happened before where we've got the top nine sides playing against the bottom nine sides. Yeah, so it's it seems yeah, so every match is a top nine side up against someone from I think it's a disaster potentially for the AFL because you've already got two games between ninth and tenth GWS at night. They can still make the finals.
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Speaker 1: But outside of that.
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Speaker 11: Who is Realistically if all those bottom sides lose those nine sides, which is clearly feasible, they're playing against sides at a higher it's probably set the nine. There's one side. So this is what This is where I think, and you guys feel free to disagree. I think we absolutely have to bring in a playing type situation like we do in the NBA or where seven and ten and then eight to nine play for the final two spots. There needs to be more on the line because otherwise it's a race to the bottom. And you've got those bottom nine sides saying.
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Speaker 1: They're all just trying to lose. They're all trying to say, what are we playing for? Yeah, you're better off being worse.
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Speaker 11: Will Goodings is and you'd putting out David Pember This is putting.
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Speaker 1: In getting ready for next year. No, I sort of get it. The only problem is I just hate the more people that are in the finals, the less the season matters. Yes, so you end up playing.
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Speaker 11: And you're rewarding mediocrity.
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Speaker 1: I get that. Twenty two games to eliminate nine out of an eighteen team competient, we will eight out of eighteen team competent, and then you actually decide who's the best with a couple of one offs. Yeah, I don't know. My concern is you get the balance out of way and you're not aligned.
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Speaker 11: There'd be a lot of people I'm sure, going what.
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Speaker 2: Is But you're right, the best thing, the best thing to change it, but it can't happen logistically. But if there was a relegation system, how good would that be? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that gets rid of any of that kind of malarkey big time. I reckon.
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Speaker 2: The problem is, and you guys are much more in a footy than I am. As a bit of a fair weather bandwagon jumping fan, I have found in the last year it's so many more things I want to do than watch football games. There's been so many boring games. Okay, last weekend pour one hundred and ten, Carlton sixty, Hawthorne one hundred and fifty, North Melbourne sixty five, Collingwood eighty eight, fifty nine West Coast or a bit of a pulse there for West Coast Crow one hundred and twenty three, Richmond fifty four. If you're in neutrient, you're not watching any of those.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, it's it's intriguing what they do and you know whether or not they do tackle it or acknowledge it. But let's see how the ladder looks at the end of this round, because I think it could be by the end of this round that you'll only have nine teams that can make it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right too. That's fascinating. Good on your Reddick taxt boys, Cheers, Brote, David.
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Speaker 3: Penberthy and World Goodings five double A Breakfast, twenty.
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Speaker 1: Three minutes of seven, Police and Weather coming up this half hour also where after the United States, we'll get more on the Diddy trial that's just come out in the last hour or so. We've got some detail with regard to that, but we'll have some more for you with that mighty Hogan in the United States before at seven o'clock, then after seven to day of course, Matt Abraham joins us after seven to thirty and don't go anywhere a little bit later in the morning, Scott Camparelli is going to join us. Ten years on from the passing of Crow's coach Phil Walsh, who he was an assistant to and just two days later replaced as the head of the Adelaide Football Club. Let's talk to again a long time guest on the program that has an even longer association with the company. He's more than ably represented. He's helped us explain everything from electric cars, total prices and everything in between. Mark Borlace has been a legend of the RAA and indeed communicating on all the wonderful work they do and explaining a whole heap of concepts to us over the course of the journey, a journey that's coming to an end after forty three years. Mark Ballace, good morning to you and congratulations on your retirement.
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Speaker 12: Good morning guys, and thank you. Yes, it's been the journey of forty three years and the RAA is obviously a great place to work, but you don't hang around place it's that long if you don't like it. Or or don't believe in them. And yeah, no, it's been a good I've seen a fair bit. When we started there as a young engineer was the beginning of crash testing and all that sort of stuff, and electric cars weren't even thought of really as a sense of having a mainstream role. And you know, the last ten years, I suppose we've seen more change in that whole industry than I've seen them, you know, the thirty three years before that. So yeah, it's been a great place to work in a great industry to be.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Mark, You've had a front row seat for huge technological change too, you haven't you. I can remember so forty three years ago when you started. Yep, I'm thinking that was in the era when we would go on family driving holidays. We go over to Victoria, go to sovereign hildress up in olden day clothes, all the sort of stuff you do paying for gold. But that would that process as a family for us would start going into the RAA down here in High Mars Square and getting the little strip map books that the RAA used to do for road trips.
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Speaker 12: Yep entirely, and they when I was they had a Young exec program. You got placed in an apartment for a couple of weeks and I remember actually spend a bit of a time there where you'd you'd find out where everybody was going, and then you'd go over this rack of maps and you'd pluck them out, stay for them up and then and talk them through it. And then you know, you'd compliment that with the big fold out mat that the kids could work out where they're going. And as I say, it was pre g GPS and pre everything, pre mobile phones.
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Speaker 1: You were testing cars in the early days. Mark. It's got me thinking, what was what's your favorite car being over the course of the last forty three years.
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Speaker 12: That's a difficult one. I've got a nineteen seventy one Comby with just a bit about the end of I should call it a Kombia. I should just call it the Bloody Money Pip. But anyway, but look, I think what I've seen is my favorites used to be the Holdens. We've gone from that period. David was talking about where invariably that that family holiday will be inside of a Ford, a Holden or a Chrysler. And then later we started to see the Japanese become more more popular. And now if you look, you know, with the Chinese, and I think we've got probably sixty brands in Australia, which is you know, if you take Canada there's similar size to us, it only has half that amount of brands. So we're really spoiled for choice here and we're really it's really getting really competitive. But yeah, the whole process though, of owning a car has gone from you know, the tech in the car was a radio, a cigarette lighter. If you're lucky you might have had a cassette player. Now through the cars that think and drive for you, and and it's only going to exhilerate from here. It's not going to slow up the stuff that cars will do, especially as people get older and they want more things in cars that do things for them. So you know, it's going to be an interesting another decade.
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Speaker 2: So Mark, just finally, I suppose a bloke he's worked for more than four decades at the RAA on the custom of your retirement and your plan a long drive somewhere.
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Speaker 12: I'm not I'm not I'm not a caravan so I'll probably do a little bit about junk work for some of the universities or one of the universities. But it's just very very part time. But we're contemplating actually maybe in a year or so my partner at ties going to Europe to live for a while and so will be the destination, will be the best friend for all our kids in our around friends for staying over there and just still a little bit more relaxed traveling like that.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful.
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Speaker 12: Well, that's that's the grand plan.
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Speaker 1: Happy trials. Mark, It's been great chaining with you of the of the years. We really appreciate your insights and your patients and your thoughtfulness.
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Speaker 12: No, no, really, I really appreciate working with you guys and your professionalism as well. That's really really good. Thanks mate.
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Speaker 1: Mike Boles ra mobility expert. He's been with the RA for forty three years and is calling to day. What if our listeners, what's the longest job you ever had? What's the longest you ever one organization? Was at forty three years? Like Mark's, that's a huge part of your life. Eight double two three double O double Can anyone beat it? Can anyone get close? Among our listeners? You can take Texas till on zero before eight zero eight thirteen ninety five. Longest you've been in a job for pretty rare these days.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, younger people, yep, the younger you are, the more likely you are to.
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Speaker 1: Have multiple jobs.
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Speaker 2: Very rare to stay at the one place your whole career or for pretty much the entirety of your career.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we've talked to Dad, who's back in radio now. Whilst it happened at various employers, like he went in and was you know, the page boy, the guy that walked around with the letter boy at three o W in Melbourne when he was left school and walked in and they went his job and away was the media career. But the idea that you walk in an entry level walk out of high school and that's just the job or industry you're in for the rest of your life, that just doesn't exist anymore.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's become a lot more. You know, people jump around a lot more than they than they once did.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorts of different things. Eight double two three double a double a can Texas on zero before eight zero, eight thirteen ninety five. We will see a few people calling in. Let's go to Andrew and prospect. What's the longest you stayed in a job, Andrew.
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Speaker 13: Well, I work forty two years and I'm just taking leave.
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Speaker 4: I have some work for injury, but I hope to go.
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Speaker 1: Back to West forty two say forty two. That's a that's Mark Bourlet X. Well, we hope you heal up Andrew and you get back out there. Debbie and Modbery Heights, Good morning.
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Speaker 14: Hi.
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Speaker 15: Yes, I'm I'm still working and it will be forty nine years on the tenth of August.
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Speaker 1: What do you do, Debbie?
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Speaker 15: I work at sea Differently at the Row Society for the Vine, oh eighteen going on nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Wow? What got you into originally? Debbie?
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Speaker 16: Sorry?
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Speaker 1: What got you into the working there? Originally?
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Speaker 15: Well, because I'm only an impaired person and we never a lot of boxings out there because I were closed doing yeah, jobs that I could do they were discontinuing or whatever, and so I just stun and because I well, when I first started with the RSP, I was told by other companies that I was too much of an insurance risk, so they wouldn't employ me.
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Speaker 1: Oh really, how do you I end up going to.
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Speaker 15: The RSB see differently now?
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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, can't get used to the new name.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry if we have the same show. We've had trouble with it too. Debbie. Great, cool Debbie and great a great career. Nathan in Lockleagus, where have you been working?
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Speaker 14: I work a glip of foods of family owned business. I've been working there for seventeen years. But one of the team members in that business has been working there for forty two years.
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Speaker 1: Forty two.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, we've got a lot of team members who've been there for thirty six, thirty four. I'm forty, so working there for seventeen years. It's been a strong journey, but a great one.
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Speaker 1: Wow. It's interesting just to do the master Dead. So Nathan's what forty has been there for seventeen years. So if you think to get the Mark Borlat sort of areas, he's working there for another thirty years. He's looked to seventy, look to get into the forties. You've started early and stayed committed for essentially your entire working life. Zoe and Corimandal Valley, Good morning.
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Speaker 18: Good morning. How are you going?
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Speaker 1: Good? Thank you, Zoe.
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Speaker 18: I've been with state government two months off coming up for forty eight years.
00:27:26
Speaker 1: Oh forty eight wow, I think you're winning so far, Zoe forty eight? Have you done lots of different jobs over the course of.
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Speaker 18: That time, No, just one job.
00:27:35
Speaker 1: You must love eight, you must absolutely love it.
00:27:37
Speaker 18: Yeah, my graphic designer.
00:27:39
Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, so forty eight years ago, everything would have been hand drawn, I'm guessing.
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Speaker 18: Right at the beginning. Yes, But then we changed over to computers in about nineteen eighty two three.
00:27:55
Speaker 2: So you would have seen the advent of page Maker and Quark Express and all of those programs.
00:28:01
Speaker 18: Certainly did quite express was my one I worked, And then we changed over to the Adobe.
00:28:06
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:28:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, Did you originally use a waxer and lectro set and burnishes and light tables all that sort of stuff?
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Speaker 18: Certainly did. And before that I was with the government. I worked for Associated Holstoms, and we used to what was called the type used to come out in one great big log strip and we used to cut it up and stick it down with glue.
00:28:27
Speaker 2: So could you could do all the calculations where you do either a five or so seven column page and then cut the sentences accordingly, all that sort of stuff.
00:28:35
Speaker 19: Yeah, but very rare.
00:28:36
Speaker 18: Did you do columns? It was always one just one length of the Aphoor paper.
00:28:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, what a transition, incredible, what a career. Thank you. Zee had some texts as well. People with really long associations with your employer. A lenn says, my husband passed away four years ago, but he worked in admin for Australia Post in the country, regional offices and in the city for forty eight years, so that sort of Zoe sort of length of time. Ben Jordan, now stats man, said his grandfather started as a copyboy at the News in nineteen thirty three and left forty six years later. My dad started as a surveyor in the Lands department in nineteen sixty eight. He left forty seven years later. I haven't kept that tradition up. You're on your bed. Well, we're all great, great texts, all great memories. All right, I'm going to check traffic for the first time this morning and come back with police in weather in just a moment.
00:29:25
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast, No I.
00:29:29
Speaker 1: Minu, it's the seven. Let's talk about the weather for this Thursday and the weekend ahead. Jenny horrib At at Weather Bureau has all the details for us. Morning.
00:29:36
Speaker 16: Jenny, good morning, guys.
00:29:38
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like there'll be any rain today, but there might be somewhere around the corner.
00:29:41
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's right.
00:29:42
Speaker 16: As we head into the weekend there, so things still pretty sable. Our high pressure systems moved up into the northeast, but still maintaining that ridge of high pressure. It's been a little bit of a cooler start, that minimum getting down to three point nine degrees about quarter to three. Currently in the city it is a seven point seven degrees at the Terrace Night APPA of Observation site, a little bit cooler around the suburbs. Down in the northern suburbs still probably only around two degrees and around the coast there around five. But we are expecting to be a little bit warmer today than yesterday seventeen on the forecast of the city and northern suburbs sixteen along the coast fifteen a four Mount Barkup. We'll see those northerly winds picking up a little bit tomorrow, so a little bit mild to start to today. They are minimum temperatures of around ten degrees for Friday, with the maximum getting up to close to nineteen degrees, and then we are expecting to see those showers developed. We've got a bit of a low pressure system moving across the south of the state over the weekend, so a few systems with that. So once those showers sort of start on the Saturday, they'll start, they'll just come in waves throughout Saturday and Sunday. There those temperatures coming back to seventeen for Saturday, fifteen on Sunday. Showers should be easy up on Monday, and a more substantial front coming through Tuesday Wednesday, and then looks like showers persisting for the remainder of the week. So bit of a wet period coming up after a couple of dry days.
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Speaker 1: Here, guys, good stuff, Jenny, thanks for that, Jenny Lovett. Let's head to say pauls and he comestable. Liam Bennett joins us. Liam. We spoke about this crash at two Wells yesterday and unfortunately, and quite tragically, it turns out it's a fatal Yeah.
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Speaker 20: Very sad. Good morning gents. At about five thirty pm yesterday afternoon, police were called to Malla Road and Port Wakefield Highway at two Wells after reports of a crash between a motorbike and an suv. Sadly, the rider of this motorbike, A thirty six year old man from the Adelaide Planes died at the scene. The driver of the Mazda was taken to hospital with minor injuries and to undergo mandatory blood tests. Major crash investigators attended to examine the scene and this is the thirty ninth life lost on South Australian roads and the fifth motorcyclist death so far this year. Police ask anyone who witnessed the crash or who has dash cam to contact crime Stoppers.
00:31:54
Speaker 2: Liam Also, there's been a suspicious house and carthire at glenl Geaest yes just.
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Speaker 20: After two who I am this morning, Police and fire crews responded to Brighton Road at Glenelgeest following reports of a car on fire in a driveway. On arrival, patrols found the Audi Sedan was fully alight, with the fire having spread to a nearby home. Firefighters worked quickly to bring the fire under control. However, the car was destroyed and extensive damage was caused to the house. Crime scene investigators attended the scene to conduct an examination and Western District Detectives will continue their inquiries today. The fire is being treated as suspicious after witnesses reported seeing people running from the scene shortly after the fire started, and police are asking anyone with information about the fire al with CCTV to contact crime Stoppers one eight hundred, triple three, triple zero.
00:32:47
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Liam, seeing you, Constableilliam. Minute there from Sapolk five to seven.
00:32:50
Speaker 1: Let's say to the US Miley Hogan for seven News is the latest on that developing story this morning that the jury has rendered a verdict in the P Diddy trot while in the US and Miley, good morning to you. Is it's a mixed sort of a verdict.
00:33:06
Speaker 21: Yeah, the verdict is in and it is split. So on the most serious charges, one count of racketeering and conspiracy, he was found not guilty. That was the count that carried life in prison. He's also been found not guilty on two sex trafficking charges, but he was found guilty on the two lesser charges of transportation to engage in prostitution. Now those charges do still carry a maximum of ten years behind bars, so he could still face up to twenty years in prison. And we've just had some breaking news from the court just now. He did apply for bail after being acquitted of those two more serious charges, but the judge has denied that, so he will still be behind bars until he's sentencing it a later date.
00:33:49
Speaker 1: Has Didy or whatever his name is said anything Miley.
00:33:53
Speaker 21: Nothing from Sean Diddy Coombs. At this stage. He is still in custody, so he's been in the court room. He would have been taken to a holding cell, we assume, and then back in the courtroom to listen to this lacest hearing about whether or not he would be released on bail until he's sentencing, which we have just found out he has been denied that request. But when he heard this news that he'd been acquitted of these two, these three more serious chargers, because this is really a largely illegal win for him, he did put his hands together in a prayer motion say thank you to the jury. He fell to his knees. There was applause in the courtroom. His family and supporters were embracing each other. There's even reporting on CNN and NBC that they've seen supporters outside the jail, fans of Shaun Didy outside the courthouse, I should say, fans of Shawn did Colmbs pouring baby oil on themselves in support of the hip hop star. So there's been a lot of interest around this case. But look, I will say it is a legal victory for him because he was facing life in prison, but he still could face quite a lengthy time in prison, and the fact that the jail hasn't given him that bail perhaps suggests that the judge is considering jail time still.
00:35:01
Speaker 1: This would be a really weird question to ask in Australia, but I know in the US it's different, certainly when it comes to certain high profile cases as well. Do you reckon any of the jurors are going to be interviewed or spoken to?
00:35:12
Speaker 21: Potentially, Yes, it will be interesting to see if any of the jury do speak. There was one DURA been following this case, and there was one jury yesterday that they had sent a note to the judge saying that they couldn't come to a decision because they had unpersuadable views on both sides. And there was a jura as well who sorry that one particular dura they sent a note saying that they didn't think that dura had the capability to follow the judges' orders. So it's interesting already to hear those little tidbits from the jury. It will be interesting to see if they talk. They have had their identities hidden throughout of this. They might choose to keep it that way. They've been in court for seven weeks now. They could be just happy to get on with it.
00:35:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a crazy country to live in. Miley, amazing, Miley Hogan there for all seven News in the US bureau.
00:36:01
Speaker 1: Imagine.
00:36:02
Speaker 2: I can't think of a single trial in Australia where anybody's ever turned up barracking or either four or against one of the defendants. It's so strange the States, isn't it.
00:36:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to think maybe some of the got political, the Philip Wilson stuff. Maybe there are a couple of people standing there praying for him or Yeah. I'm just trying to But you're right, well we do have we don't. We don't rob a celebrity. I think it was some of the stuff that went on at his parties. What were they called freak coffs, Yeah, freakofs. Less said the better. It's coming up to a minute to seven, five double A news coming up. We bet more shortly at.
00:36:45
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:36:49
Speaker 1: Seven after seven, Good morning to welcome to Thursday, and five double a breakfast if you're joining us for the first time. It is the third of July. There's no cult to complained about this morning. Take three. I think warm as it's been this week. Yesterday yesterday was cold. Yesterday yesterday the day before was cooler. So by that measure we're training at very least in the right direction. Some rain around the corner, but the weather not so much of a story this morning. Unlike yesterday we had flights at all sorts been canceled because of fog here and the all crazy rain in New South Wales as well. Very shortly, we're going to be taking you back ten years to the most devastating story in the history of South Australian football, the death of Crow's coach Phil Walsh. We'll get into that because it was about around this time ten years ago that some of the news began filtering through. There was speculation early and then it got more concrete. But it was a remarkable period of days that stretched into weeks, that went from details of the crime to wondering how football could possibly continue it being a Friday morning, to questions about how the Crows could play football and ultimately what decisions were made around that. So stay with us.
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Speaker 2: Very shortly, it was Tom Wren who broke the news on on air, Tom Rend and Smith Oroon yep, they were doing the show together and in our absence, we're both away for the two week July break and yeah, just a terrible, terrible story.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, just some news headlines to jump into. It was during the program yesterday we got that official communicate from Quantus detailing a cyber attack that had meant that six million customers details had been had been accessed. Condus now say a voice phishing attack on a Manilla call center operator is what was behind this security breach. A hacker was granted access to a customer database storing the names, date of birth, phone numbers, emails, and frequent fire numbers of millions of Quantus customers. No credit can't information in the good news, No passport details or other financial info was in the database, so that wasn't accessed.
00:39:00
Speaker 2: It's not a very sophisticated attack. Voice phishing makes it sound like it's some high fluting thing. Voice fishing means you ring an organization and pretend that you work there and then they tell you everything you need to Now it's.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: That way, doesn't it. His cybersecurity expert, doctor Mohammad Esgin, who says the problem with this is that the details being out there can fuel further cyber crimes.
00:39:22
Speaker 22: If I call up it's a Quantas or some other company and they want to vertify that it's still the me calling, they might ask me to confirm my debt off bert and email address and my telephone number for this information. If it's leaked, then it can be used by cyber criminals to try to imperson at me.
00:39:38
Speaker 1: I don't know what the record time, the record short amount of time it's ever taken the Home Affairs Minister to reject a visa application, but I suspect it may have been broken in the case of American rapper Kanye West, who I think, by any measure account has lost his mind in recent years. He recently leased a song called Heyle Hitler. In any case, he's not coming to the country. Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke at this to.
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Speaker 23: Say, the only one that I can think of where it wasn't for public advocacy, the visa that we canceled anyway, and that'd be Kanye West. So he's been coming to Australia for a long time. He's been making he's got family here and in He's made a lot of offensive comments. But my officials looked at it again once he released the Hile Hitlers song and he no longer has a valid visa in Australia. It wasn't a visa even for the purpose of the concerts. It was a lower level and the officials still looked at the law and said, you're going to have a song and promote that sort of Nazism.
00:40:41
Speaker 8: We don't need that in Australia.
00:40:44
Speaker 2: I was just doing quick Google suits. So eleven years ago. Kanye West played the Adelaide Entertainment Center on September the eighth, twenty fourteen. His Kanye West has played the thousands of adoring fans at the Adelaide Entertainment Center, but there was one audience member who would have been in front of his mind, his wife Kim Kardashian. The US Rappers. Equally, his famous spouse watched his entire Adelaide show from the comfort of a couch at the rear of the floor. Surrounded by an entourage of security guards, and what a.
00:41:15
Speaker 1: Show it was.
00:41:15
Speaker 2: Although West took to the stage twenty minutes late, he wasted no time launching into a searing set, the first half of which was dominated by tracks from his most recent album, Ye'sers. Not familiar with Ye'sers, but you're not going to be seeing another Kegne West show at the Entertainment Center anytime soon.
00:41:30
Speaker 1: How do you think Connor Rosie feels about Marco Rubio being given He's jumper? Did you see that Penny Wong exchanged the number one port Jumper with Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State in the United States at the Quad meeting, of course, which it sounds like it all went very well. Everyone was very polite and things like tariffs and old aucast did not get discussed. So we're all getting along great, and there was an exchange of tops. Penny wrong bought the number one. The other question is, how does Donald Trump field the number one? It bought Adelaide means you're the captain? Yeah, well, is this a de stateabilizing effort?
00:42:01
Speaker 2: I always sort of wanted to give him The well documented links between Port.
00:42:05
Speaker 1: Adelaide and the labor party.
00:42:06
Speaker 2: How does the entire Malanauskas government feel about the fact that they're now recruiting Republicans to the cause.
00:42:11
Speaker 1: This is a good question.
00:42:13
Speaker 2: I would have thought the Crows would be the one to be more. Are there any more liberal pedigree with a lot of the people who have Barrackford and supported them in a corporate sense over well, I robbed Gerard.
00:42:24
Speaker 1: For example, Alexander Downer gave Condoleeza Rice a Crows jumpers back in the day, back in two thousand and five. Are there any natural fits for footy jumpers and politicians around the world? Donald Trump had probably look good in a Dermit Brereton, wouldn't he. I just think, are there natural fits between politicians?
00:42:45
Speaker 24: No?
00:42:46
Speaker 2: I would have thought it would be more gold case now oranges chess puffed out.
00:42:50
Speaker 1: You know, going through, rather than a round of approach to life. Yeah, the puffed out chess. Yeah yeah. If there are any other natural fits, let us know eight double two three double double texas on zero before eight zero eight thirty ninety five. Let's check traffic back in a moment.
00:43:04
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
00:43:08
Speaker 1: Seven minutes after seven It was ten years ago today that one of the most shocking stories in the history of South Australian football, or indeed South Australia did break. As you described it at the start of the program, David, it's one of those jfkesk where were you when? Moments? Where were you when the news came through that Crow's coach Phil Walsh had been murdered. Well, for many of our listeners and some of whom have texted us already this morning. They were listening to the five Double, a breakfast show that on that morning was being hosted by Tom w Ren and Mike Smithson. They had alluded to the fact that there was a big story that was developing. They couldn't give the details yet, though Ben Avery from nine News joined them on the show, he had managed to establish what had happened.
00:43:53
Speaker 11: We'll go to Ben Avery back at Summrdon Park. Ben, you've got some breaking news which you can give to us here on Father the Block.
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Speaker 25: I came, guys, and it's the tragic news I was alluding to earlier. Police had just come down to confirm that the sixty five year old man who was murdered here at Somerton Park at tur of this morning was the coach of the Adelaide Crow, Phil Walsh.
00:44:14
Speaker 8: That is bombshell news and very tragic.
00:44:17
Speaker 1: Ben. What is the police saying.
00:44:21
Speaker 25: At this day is not a lot, although of course we know that his twenty six year old son has been arrested over the murder.
00:44:29
Speaker 1: That was the first. That was the first, and he had heard about who was involved. Beyond it being the sort of Sapole cross we would have had earlier in the morning saying there's been a fifty five year old involved in a murder investigation. Here is Sapole's Vanessa Kelly.
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Speaker 24: On the morning, police believe Phil Walsh's son was walking north along Brighton Road towards First Avenue at Glennel's East between the specific times of approximately one five am and two state thirty am this morning. So what we're asked is, if you were in the area driving along Brighton Road around that time, would really and even think that you may have seen Phil Walsh's son. We'd really like to hear from you.
00:45:11
Speaker 1: So it's Friday, the third of July. That's all happening. The night before Port had played in the AFL and lost to Sydney by ten points in Thursday night forty. There was meant to be more forty on that night on Friday and forty all of a sudden felt like the least important thing in the world. But it's a big industry, and questions went to what happens on that game the Friday night and what happens to the Crow's game that was set to take place on Sunday, the fifth of July at Jelo against Geelong. Here in adelaide his Marcus Wilson during the five Double a.
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Speaker 26: News as expected, Sunday's Crow's Geelong match has been canceled in the wake of coach Phil Walsh's murder. Each team will get two points. The other games will be played as scheduled. Walsh's twenty six year old son Si has been charged over his death and we'll face a bedside caught hearing this afternoon.
00:46:01
Speaker 1: It was the first and remains only time in the history of the Australian Football League that both sides have been given two points each and the game has been called off in such a manner. Then, as the day developed, the football world began to share their thoughts and join in the morning for Phil Walsh, here is Graham Corns.
00:46:20
Speaker 7: I cannot remember a situation like this. I've had a couple of hours to digest it, admittedly, and people hearing it for the first time will be as shocked as anybody. It just has an impact on so so many people. The football clubs deal with tragedies regularly, There's no doubt about that, but never of this magnitude where so many people are affected, where you know the whole country is affected. What does it mean for the the for the club, What does it mean for the players that he got What is more importantly, what does it mean for his Maridis, his wife? All those sort of roll around in your brain and you don't really have any answer for them.
00:47:08
Speaker 1: Graham Gordan's wondered what it meant for the Adelaide Football Club, and chairman Rob Chapman spoke in the hours after I got.
00:47:13
Speaker 6: A phone call at three point thirty am from the police to say that.
00:47:22
Speaker 1: A tragedy had.
00:47:23
Speaker 6: Unfolded and that involved Phil Walsh, our coach. That's a phone call no one ever wants to get. Irang Andrew together with David Noble in Shaddleworth. The four of us met down here at the club. As I said, just after four and then progressively we involved other members of the footy club and you know, you've got to get straight into crisis management, and this is a crisis unprecedented.
00:48:00
Speaker 2: Those guys would have just been on autopilot all day, like ye get woken in the middle of the night and then the calls sort of trickle out and then you know the job falls to them to address the players. How hard must that have been. There would be guys coming in, some would have known others, some of the younger guys maybe who are just listening to music or whatever, not newspeople. They would have been none the wiser. You know, you've got people who are super close to him, like techs.
00:48:31
Speaker 1: Just so much to manage, isn't there. Well. Scott Cambrelli was intimately involved in that, as we mentioned two days later he became the head coach of the Adelaide Football Club. He's going to join us on five of the Blue Breakfast aff Drake thirty to give us insight into those first few hours and then what came immediately after in a football since Graham Corns and Rob Chapman gave us a local perspective on what transpoted on the day, But then, of course it became a national football story. League Boss Kylan McLaughlin spoke.
00:48:57
Speaker 27: Our game is in mourning today, and I speak the whole of the AFL, our clubs, our players, and our star in passing our deeper sympathies to Phil Walsh's family and friends. His sorrow and distress felt today touches many in our industry because Phil Walsh gave such a lot to our game. He was a man of boundless energy, enthusiasm and great intelligence. He was part of the AFL family for thirty two years. And there are not many words of comfort today for those who feel this terrible loss in these most difficult of circumstances. To his family, we can only say that your love, father and husband is in all our hearts, and whatever support we can offer, we will.
00:49:58
Speaker 1: And then somehow Round fourteen continued later that day, Collingwood playing the eventual premiers Hawthorne at the mcg. Here's how that game sounded, as Tim Lane called it on three out w football.
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Speaker 9: Football time arrives. The footy has been a source of comfort. It's hard to know how to react through all of this, whether it's disrespectful or whatever.
00:50:24
Speaker 1: But the game must go on. We have to learn to move on.
00:50:29
Speaker 9: That is a part of the process and I think that is understood even at the center.
00:50:35
Speaker 8: Of this where the grief has felt most deeply.
00:50:37
Speaker 28: Well, it's an escape, isn't it, Tim, where you can just have that two hours of loving watching footy and cheering on football. And for Phil Welsh, he was such a passionate football person. He loved his footy dearly and we can all come along and watch great players run around and play a good game of footy.
00:50:56
Speaker 1: Just for that moment you forget about everything that's been thing. You can hear in the voice of Tim Lane and Camling, no one knows how to react. Football suddenly feels so unimportant.
00:51:07
Speaker 2: Ken Hinckley made a good comment the following week when Port played, where he said, this is what Phil would have wanted, you know, get the job done. Yeah, don't just stand around like you know you've got a job to do. And you know Mark Williams as well, and that remarkable eulogy. I love that speech he gave where he talked about how Phil Welsh loved the movie Spartacus and he used to talk to the players about it when he was at Port he used to use that movie the scene I am Spartacus, I'm Spartacus. You know everyone's in this together. And that was the final line of his eulogy. He's an amazing eulogy.
00:51:40
Speaker 1: Well you heard Tim Lane and Cameron Ling try to react. The players had planned something on the ground afterwards, and people who watched that game might recall this.
00:51:50
Speaker 29: It now looks like as if all forty four players are going to head to all different parts of the ground.
00:51:56
Speaker 1: This is going to go around the circle, the bigger of the two centers. This is an amazing sign. I'm proud of our gay.
00:52:04
Speaker 29: I think this is just as good a thing I've ever seen in any sport anywhere around the world. And the crowd now a show of unity and support for someone who's passed on and has meant a lot to the football world.
00:52:18
Speaker 1: I got goosebumps. An incredible scene here.
00:52:22
Speaker 30: Oh boy.
00:52:24
Speaker 1: So the Crow's game that weekend Sunday, the fifth of July got canceled against Geelong, as we mentioned, the first time and only time that the two sides have been given the two points. Then the Crows had to play just six days later on the eleventh of July traveling to Perth to play the West Coast Eagles, which was a hugely emotional game. You aren't read of the players. They lost by fifty six points. They'd held on, but it was it just looked like it was emotionally beyond the playing group, as you might well imagine, and they all broke down on the field afterwards. It was a remarkable scene. They had a crack in that first half. They tried yeh in front for a while they were and then we had the showdown. How's timing just two weeks later? And I think this is the bit no one's memory needs to be jogged. Everyone remembers the end of that remarkable showdown.
00:53:14
Speaker 28: Ten seconds if the Crows are going to win in one of the greatest showdowns.
00:53:17
Speaker 1: We've ever seen. Chapman and Kosh in cheers, and you hear the race, hear the siren. Now it should go in me down. They've got Henderson. Henderson takes the Moneys. A nunbelievable game of money by the fairest de Margins. Three points had late season alive quite at late season.
00:53:39
Speaker 29: They finish and Phil Golsh will be so proud of his charges. It's possibly and arguably the best showdown.
00:53:46
Speaker 1: We've ever seen. You might recall the Crows just held on at the end of the game. They kicked two behinds after three quarter time held on to win by three points. From there, it's kind of remarkable what they did. They win five of the next seven, finish in the top eight, win an elimination final against the Bulldogs before losing to Hawthorne in the semi who went on to smash everyone and win the Grand Final that year.
00:54:10
Speaker 2: I remember talking to Rob Chapman after they Bert Foot's Gray and he said, this keeps going. They're going to make Aliewood movie about this season. Yeah it was. It was genuinely unbelievable, but you know, just sort of important lesson in the need for life to continue as well what happened afterwards. As hard as it was for everybody, but as we've said since the start of the show, the people who mad at the most in all of this of the Welsh family, and we hope that life has somehow become more manageable and bearable for them.
00:54:46
Speaker 1: Scott Campberelli was central to all that. You just heard. He's going to be joining us on five double a breakfast after eight thirty.
00:54:52
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Goodings five double a breakfast twenty.
00:54:56
Speaker 1: One minutes to eight Matt Abraham and the fire double a breakfast chair as he is on each and every Thursday morning.
00:55:07
Speaker 31: This is the mic received manifest.
00:55:12
Speaker 8: You're eating the door.
00:55:14
Speaker 11: I'll tell you about any buses sex and he wanted to not turning up the day of.
00:55:17
Speaker 8: The dumb matts.
00:55:22
Speaker 1: In out of the cold. Matt Abraham, good morning.
00:55:24
Speaker 8: To you, Good morning Will, Good morning David.
00:55:26
Speaker 1: How you haven't been approached by the Liberal Party to be a boom recruit, have you?
00:55:29
Speaker 8: It's no funny about that.
00:55:33
Speaker 1: I should try you never you know, you know you never passed it. A bit more generational change.
00:55:40
Speaker 8: Yes I am. We're talking about Frank Pangala possibly running for the seat of Weight which should be a Liberal seat but tell by Catherine Hutchinson. A Labor party won the last election and the Premier looked a bit narked actually about it, didn't he had. He had a little bit of a slap at Frank Pangala saying, oh, this is the future the Liberal parties if this is the best they can come up with. And then and then he said, well, it's hardly generational, just having a go at his age anyway, I seen to remember Jeff Brock was made a minister in a Labor cabinet. He wasn't too old. I think he was well.
00:56:20
Speaker 2: And Frank Panglo is now he created a Labor government, yeah, exactly doing.
00:56:24
Speaker 1: What he did. I thought it was a pretty ordinary line of attack. Frankly, it was just ages like it's going to swing. Why waste of breath on it.
00:56:33
Speaker 8: It wasn't a good it wasn't a good look. No, it wasn't a good look. And you know, Don Farrell, I think he's four months older than Frank Pangalo is the should he quit? He's the premier saying that his factional sort of mentor is too old sort of you know, cashing his chips, can't make a contribution, doesn't represent the future of the Labor Party.
00:56:56
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Well, that would be courageous, that one. Well, it's not like Frank's Joe Biden. Like we said the other day, Frank Pagello has come up with more stories in the past term of Parliament than the opposition.
00:57:11
Speaker 1: Like the guy's in news hound. He's a news machine.
00:57:15
Speaker 8: He is, and you know, he's fairly I think, proud of the fact that he's shameless. But we'll come to wait, we'll just come to the numbers, because it is an interesting seat. When I first heard that he was going to run for a seat from courtesy of you guys, I thought he's going to have a Colton, you know for the Liberals, which is Matt Cowdry seat. Matt Cowdry last Friday. Always wait till after our Thursday session, so announce this stuff. He's stepping out of what he's resigning from politics at the next election. Now, he was one of the few, one of only two metropol MPs, the other one Stephen Patterson, who at the last election got an increase in their primary vote. No one else.
00:58:01
Speaker 1: He's in my Sea's house local, he's well liked locally, his individual brand is strong.
00:58:06
Speaker 8: Yeah, his primary vote was up six point one percent and.
00:58:12
Speaker 29: St.
00:58:13
Speaker 8: Juan Patterson up eight point four and they're adjoining their important seats.
00:58:17
Speaker 2: I think as a society we should all be worried that someone like Matt Cowdry has decided after two terms that politics isn't for him, because I think he's one of those people. He's not a factional hack. He went into politics with noble intent. He wanted to represent his community. He wanted to help make lives better through the policies that he believed in. He didn't play games. We asked him to come on the show Monday, and he said, no, I'm not doing it. And I think it's because he doesn't want to have to honestly answer questions about what do you think of politics? Because I think he's just come to the conclusion most sane people would draw, which is his place.
00:58:55
Speaker 8: Is full half with it shouldn't be about sledging. As one of the few things he said are that. So he's lost to the Liberal Party. I think that is a loss. I agree with you, David. And the other one is John Gardner, who resigned from politics. Here's another. You know, he was another sort of straight shooter, talented sort of guy, you know, a moderate force in the Liberal Party and incredibly presentable. My view, he decided, nah, I don't think so not working for me. So there's Frank Pangelo. Let's have a look at Wait here we are so at the last election. So Wait's now held by Catherine Hutchison on fifty She's got fifty four percent, so it's four percent margin. It is a winnable seat. I wouldn't call it marginal, but I don't think there's any I don't think there's any marginal seat here by Labor. But at the last election it is a very messy seat. Because you'll remember Sam Delok was the MP he at his moment at a Christmas party in Parliament House. He ran as an independent, so he got nearly twenty percent the vote, nineteen point seven. The mayor, the Mitch and Mayor of the People's Republic of mitt Shammerstan, as I like to call rich Heather Holmes Ross, she read as an independent. She got nearly fifteen percent of the vote. So between them they both got more votes than either the Liberal Party or the Labor Party combined. Roughly. The Greens vote was pretty stable eleven percent. Alexander hy had a great White Hope as he thought, I think of Liberal Party. His vote went down eighteen point seven percent the Liberal vote. That's quite achievement.
01:00:33
Speaker 1: That's not great.
01:00:34
Speaker 8: So the Labor Party primary vote was only up two and a half percent in Wait, but preferences, it was obviously messy. Preferences would have flown. I think from Heather Holmes ross the Greens and Catherine Hutchison holds a seat and I have to say, is because we've recently moved into the seat, is it's the first time I've ever been door knocked and welcome to a seat by any MP by the label woman. Yes, hutcheson and got one of those little shopping pads. It was quite handy, you know. So we're in the other house for three years, so it's not like it happens, you know, new residents.
01:01:11
Speaker 1: Around has his price. It's a printed shopping list. So as you described that, Matt, if you if you tease that out, if it's a less complicated picture next time round there, there's actually you could be optimistic about that. As the Liberals, that seat, well, it's worth a shot.
01:01:28
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, it's a good seat to pick. I think for Frank Pangalo because anything could happen. He's a bit of a bomb throw and metaphorically speaking, I.
01:01:39
Speaker 2: Think with Sarah Game becoming an independent, with Tammy, Frank's becoming an independent, with Frank Pangalo now looking around to see is it better to try to stay in politics by winning with the backing of the liberal Party in a seat that has historically been held by the Liberals than seeking another term in the Upper House where you need eighty thousand odd votes. I think we're seeing political maneuverings at the moment. They have less to do with any point of principle, more to do with self preservation and funding.
01:02:11
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, there's no doubt about that, no doubt about that. They're looking at the numbers. I would think running as an independent in the Upper House this election is going to be fraud with danger. And even if you're Conne Binaris, who says she's not going to take a number four spot on the ledge Co ticket the Labor Party.
01:02:33
Speaker 2: She's in the best funding position of all of them though, because under the new electoral laws she gets funding based on what the essay best votes were at the twenty eighteen election, exactly when everyone thought Xenophon was going to be premier. So it's created all of these weird things. No one's actually done this story properly yet, but there's weird stuff going on down there.
01:02:52
Speaker 8: Yeah, the new electoral funding laws will benefit her and it will not benefit new entrants, correct.
01:02:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
01:02:58
Speaker 8: So effectively kills off a Xenophon running, which is why when.
01:03:03
Speaker 2: You think back to what Sarah Game and Tammy Frank said when they explain their sudden declaration that they're independent, there wasn't a hell of a lot of substance or principle to what was driving them away from their party.
01:03:15
Speaker 1: But what's the incentive for them to do it? Though they get.
01:03:19
Speaker 2: More funding as existing as existing independent MPs than as new independent MPs. The differential is something like between it's either five thousand versus one hundred thousand. There's not money in their pocket. That's money that they can spend on their campaign. The other thing is if they lose as independence, because they're already there as independence, they get a redundancy.
01:03:42
Speaker 1: Payout, but you don't if you if you're associated with the party. No, it's quite clever.
01:03:49
Speaker 8: Leg it's very Malnoscus legislation.
01:03:52
Speaker 1: That's it's complicated. That's my reading of it's.
01:03:55
Speaker 8: It's very you know, Peter Mountainouscus is up there saying there should be no place for money in politics. Well, the structure of this bill, and I think it had to probably be structured like this to get it through the Upper House and to attract independence, and so on. But the structure of this bill is very clever in that it's it rewards those who sort of backed it in. But there's sunset provisions in many ways. So after this election, if you were trying to get into the Upper House as an independent, you'll be paying using your own money, if you've got any money.
01:04:29
Speaker 1: I'll be amazed if he does it.
01:04:31
Speaker 2: I mean everyone's been talking about the Liberal Party being a case of shuffling the dick chairs on the Titanic, and Frank's basically rocking up saying can I see them?
01:04:37
Speaker 1: One of them?
01:04:39
Speaker 8: But he might. I've got a few Frank Pangalo stories because he was a cadetit the News. I was a cadetit of the advertised.
01:04:45
Speaker 1: Did you teach him everything? He knows?
01:04:47
Speaker 8: No, he taught me quite a few tricks, I think it's fair to say. And there weren't many funny stories that come out of the bodies in a barrel case. It was horrible, But I do recall I was at The Australian at the time and we're out at in far northern suburbs of Adelaide, and it was just a dreadful moment for me as a journo because they were We were with a group of people, locals watching their neighbors remains come out of the ground, you know, underneath the tank, and everybody wanted to get next door to get a better view of it, not not the newspaper journos, but the TV journals. Suddenly Frank Pangelo and his cameraman, thank pardon, suddenly Frank Pangelo's cameraman right in the house next door with a perfect view of the you know, the remains coming out of the tank. And we all said out, Frank, get in there, you know, because the neighbors weren't particularly friendly at that stage, nor were their dogs. Anyway, afterwards, I said to Frank, how'd you get in there? And he said, oh, the owner of the house wanted something, so, you know, negotiate. I said, I'm thinking himself, what is it? Why?
01:05:55
Speaker 30: You know?
01:05:56
Speaker 8: No, it was a sign poster of Neil Curley and a slab of power Gold food.
01:06:04
Speaker 1: Had Frank's I can have that to you by two this afternoon.
01:06:08
Speaker 8: I don't know where he got the sign past and Neil Curley, but anyway, it doesn't matter. He can make things happen, so Frank, Yeah, Frank makes things happen. He'll be interesting to watch him.
01:06:16
Speaker 1: Wait, yeah, most definitely. All right, we go to take you have a glass of water, WHI check traffic and come back with some spin.
01:06:20
Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Gooding's five Double a Breakfast six.
01:06:25
Speaker 1: The Waight Rob on the text line asks Matt how many shonky rooping contractors have you chased over fences? Like Frank pen Should we write some spin?
01:06:41
Speaker 8: Let's do. Let's start with the Prime Minister doing a string of interviews on morning TV, the Morning Shows, and he was asked on Today. This is classic. Two things to watch for here the way his voice gets very high pitched as he answers indignantly. But secondly, how the presenter who asked the question on Today based on a story in the fin Review, and that is about the fact that the government had very few briefings on defense in its defense committees, it's security committees. And that was from in the Orders to General's report. Okay, it was a scathing order to General's report. Haven't listened to how this unfolt.
01:07:17
Speaker 32: When you talk about Astraia's interests. We need to be able to defend ourselves, right and the Financial Review this morning has a story about Richard Marles, the Defense Minister, not actually being briefed by the ADF for two and a half years. How is that acceptable? How do you explain something like that happening.
01:07:31
Speaker 9: Well, that's that's just absurd, that's just absurd.
01:07:35
Speaker 32: So he has been briefing.
01:07:38
Speaker 11: Yes, okay, of course, that's just ridiculous.
01:07:42
Speaker 12: Frankly, I haven't said that report.
01:07:45
Speaker 3: That was a silly question as well.
01:07:46
Speaker 32: I'll never read the Financial Review ever. Again, that is my commitment, Thank you, PM.
01:07:53
Speaker 11: All right, this morning, we are winding everything you read in the papers exactly.
01:08:00
Speaker 8: One of my rules was if you're get to ask a nasty question, back yourself in. I mean, I know it's not Walkley Ward winning territory, Brecky television. That's fine, but back yourself in. I'm never going to read the paper. And there's a promeinis of saying, don't believe everything you read in the paper, even though I haven't read the report.
01:08:19
Speaker 1: Good point.
01:08:21
Speaker 8: Six out of ten?
01:08:22
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, six out of ten. I can just tell everything about that irritated you?
01:08:28
Speaker 8: Yeah it did, it did. Now you know the story's got, you know, getting legs when it makes seven thirty on the ABC from Adelaide. There once a year's story from Adelaide And so they got in a dudgeon, a moderate dudgeon about live golf and the park lands land grabbed by the Melanowski's government. But I did given it last week. We did focus a little bit on Nick Champion. I thought that this was worth having a little listen to as Angeliq Donellan works them through.
01:08:59
Speaker 13: I'm sortive of live golf, but the way the premiere has gone about this is quite arrogant, and I think it indicates the Hubris dis government has.
01:09:12
Speaker 6: Are you an arrogant government?
01:09:14
Speaker 30: Of course not, of course not.
01:09:18
Speaker 1: Thanks for resolving that, but there we go.
01:09:21
Speaker 10: Could you be a little bit could you get a little bit more?
01:09:24
Speaker 22: And so.
01:09:27
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Oh?
01:09:30
Speaker 8: Anyway, it was Frank ping got at the start, Yeah, sounding.
01:09:34
Speaker 1: Very responsible, a lower House member a bit.
01:09:37
Speaker 8: Well, we did have that timber to his voice.
01:09:39
Speaker 1: Future Liberal leader paths let's not get it ourselves here.
01:09:43
Speaker 8: He's got to get those shopping pads printed out first.
01:09:46
Speaker 1: He knows how to get into the party coming through.
01:09:49
Speaker 8: The Actually just one. I don't want to knock back a free shopping pad, but if it had a little magnet on the back that would perfect Catherine, just some.
01:10:00
Speaker 1: Shopping, constituent feedback.
01:10:04
Speaker 8: For enthusiasm, and a total lack of arrogance. I'm giving Nick Champion a big seven out of ten.
01:10:11
Speaker 1: Matt.
01:10:14
Speaker 2: Seven thirty spends more time covering Teyran than it does Adelaide.
01:10:17
Speaker 8: Oh, I know, I always. Oh, there's an Adelaide story on it.
01:10:22
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, Matt. We'll let you get back out pleasure. Each and every Thursday morning, good five, double a breakfast, dissecting the spit of the week, stick around breaking eight, not too far away and wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't miss Scott Campberelli coming up after eight thirty this morning, on the day that we mark ten years since the death of Phil Walsh. It was two days from this day that Scott Cambrelly found out he was coaching the Adelaide Football Club, having had to work for a period of telling players, running trainings and preparing for games. That interview you won't want to miss it after eight thirty.
01:10:55
Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five, double a breakfast.
01:11:00
Speaker 1: If it's after right, John Schumann coming up very shortly Scott Camparelly on ten years since the death of Crow's coach Phil Walsh's going to take us through this extraordinary first few hours, days and games as he took over his head coach under extraordinary circumstances. That's coming up after eight thirty this morning. Now, we received a text a short time ago about trains being stopped between Woodville and Adelaide suspected breakdown. What's not a breakdown. In fact, what's happened is a truck has hit the Cheap Street bridge. Oh really, according to the Department Infrastructure and Transport the trains, they've paused the trains at the moment just to make sure there's any damage to the track, whether it's all okay, you can still operate, So there's nothing wrong with the trains per se. It's a truck hitting the Chief Street bridge there. So there's someone who's just arrived. We've been told to inspect what's going on. So if you're wondering why the trains are stopped, but not because of a train problem, because of a truck smashing into the bridge problem. So if anyone's in the airing and sent us a picture, we'd love to put it up on the live stream zero four eight zero eight thirteen ninety five, or if you're a witness to what's happened there. All we know is what we've got from the department so far, so we'd love to hear from you. Call us eight double two to three double double oh is the number. It's not a breaking op.
01:12:14
Speaker 2: Well, this is a really important story, particularly for our older listeners. People are in my age bracket and are starting to think about their superannuation. There's a major scam that has been identified by ACIC and they're issuing a warning about it today. Basically, people are receiving cold calls and facing high pressure sales tactics, being urged to switch their super out of their current provider, out of their current fund and into self manage super funds, then going ahead and making risky investments, after which all of their money disappears.
01:12:50
Speaker 1: As I said, the warning is coming out from ASK, which.
01:12:54
Speaker 2: Is the peak sort of oversight body that monitors this kind of misconduct. Sarah Court is the ACCIC Deputy Commissioner and she joins us now, Sarah, good morning and thanks so much for your time. Can you walk us through this scam? How does it actually happen. What should people watch for?
01:13:12
Speaker 19: Yeah, good morning, thanks for having me on. So, yeah, we are very concerned about patterns that are investigations. Recent investigations are revealing about, as you say, people being enticed or lurd into leaving their superannuation into funds other funds on the promises of higher returns. And what we're seeing is that these funs are complex, you know, their high risk, and people unfortunately are losing significant sums of money having rolled their funds over. So what they need to look for be on the lookout for our promises of unrealistic returns. And really anyone trying to pressure you to move your superannuation telling you you need to do it fast. You know, the opportunity is about to disappear is you don't get your funds across to this new fund. And they are all things to be on the lookout for. Your superannuation is obviously a significant investment and you need to take time to think before.
01:14:09
Speaker 6: You move it.
01:14:10
Speaker 1: Sarah too.
01:14:11
Speaker 2: Some of these some of these scammers, they sort of sound quite benign at first, don't they, because they might their first point of contact with you might be to offer you something like a free superhealth check or something.
01:14:21
Speaker 19: Oh, look, that's exactly right. So what we're seeing is, you know, people are doing the right thing. They're scrolling through their social media seed they're seeing, you know, pop up ads do a free superhealth check, check have you got enough super for your retirement? People are putting their details in some that's a good thing, you know, at the back of your mind, you're thinking, that's really something I need to get onto is check whether I'm in the right super scheme. And then what's happening is that people are using those contact details to ring the person and then spend vary things in amounts of time with them on the phone, persuading them using high pressure sales to say, look, you know your fund is really it's not performing as well as it could be. Your really missing out. You need to jump into this opportunity and move your funds over here and you'll do really well. And unfortunately, as I say, often these funds are very high risk property development schemes that never get off the ground, and people's money there as investments really just dissipate away.
01:15:19
Speaker 2: And there have been instances, Sarah where actual has actually caught some of the perpetrators and managed to recover any of the money.
01:15:28
Speaker 19: Yeah, we've got a significant number of live investigations on at the moment. It is a bit unusual for us because we're in the middle of live investigations, but we are so concerned about what we're seeing that we are really trying to get out and warn people now about what we are seeing. There are a range of things we can do. We are focusing on protecting any of the moneies that remain in these funds, So we've had a number of court actions where we're freezing assets, getting liquid aitors appointed so that the liquidators can go through and work out which moneies are still aiming. We're speaking travel restraining orders frequently, trying to prevent people that we think might be involved with these schemes from leaving the country so we can continue our investigation. So we very much want to hold anyone to account that we find to be responsible for these losses. But you know, the best thing we can do is at the front end really warn people against getting involved in those schemes in the first place.
01:16:22
Speaker 1: It's an important warning.
01:16:23
Speaker 2: And yeah, we'd love to hear from our listeners if they've had any experiences of this Serra Court, the Deputy Commissioner of ASSEK, thanks so much for joining us this morning.
01:16:34
Speaker 1: A Priority three case when it comes to ambulance emergencies is one that should be attended to within thirty minutes. That's the aim. The Ambulance Employees Association put out a really concerning bit of content on their social media in the last twenty four hours where they're saying there are up to thirty Priority three cases that were left pending in the community, some or one for almost thirteen hours now. As they describe it, priority three cases are things like falls, fractures and something like abdominal pain. I mean, this is the kind of thing that for older South Australians, this is why ambulance callouts happen. Imagine having to wait thirteen hours. Paul Eckelboom is the secretary of the AMBOS Union here in SA. Paul, good morning to you, Good morning guys, Kricky. Thirteen hours, thirty Priority threes left pending. This is obviously a somewhat rare occurrence to get to this level.
01:17:33
Speaker 33: No, we've seen this many times. It's deeply concerning that it's probably a symptom of the lack of resources that we have to respond to these patients. I mean, obviously a Priority two patient will take preference over the Priority threes. But you know, up until a year ago, I was still up in our communications room and we would see this all the time.
01:17:58
Speaker 2: But Paul, very much so, Paul, we keep hearing from the government though we've got more ambulances, we've got more ambulance drivers. I mean, that's true, isn't it. But if so, why is this still happening.
01:18:11
Speaker 33: Yeah, we do have more ambulance crews on the road, but you know, some of these crews are spending their whole shift on the ramp. They're seeing one, maybe two patients in an entire shift. If we're not released from the ramp, we're not getting out to the community, and inherently that's where the real risk is. A Priority three is an urgent case. Like you alluded to in the preview, is that these are patients that are in pain. These are symptoms that we can treat very quickly and provide some relief to those patients and make them feel get improvement in their conditions.
01:18:48
Speaker 1: Paul, I one had a bit of a look back through what the state government has been saying of an anylance response times because for a while this has sort of conflated the issues of ramping in response times, and they've claimed success on response times, but if you look at the language used in all the communications from the state government, they've claimed success with regard to reducing ambulance response times for priority one and Priority two cases. Have Priority threes been forgotten? Have they been included in any of the targeting, or are they not meeting the goals or have they just been totally left out?
01:19:20
Speaker 33: So I think the Emailance Service had to report on the priority ones in the Priority two cases as per their key performance indicators. But let's be quite frank. The Priority one cases, there's probably only ten cases a day statewide of those, so we should be meeting those targets. The Priority two cases have risen from thirty seven percent of a few years ago to that. I think the most was seventy percent and that's now coming down. We're trying to aim for ninety percent, so we're not even getting close to that yet. And the Priority threes, there's an expectation and that we are there within thirty minutes. Now we're not meeting those the urgent cases that need treatment that could deteriorate just waiting for us to arrive.
01:20:07
Speaker 1: Paul, Thank you. Paul Ekleburn, the secretary of the Ambos union here in South Australia.
01:20:11
Speaker 2: What was the lining in the labor we'll fix the ramping crisis. They might have said that once or twice I think in the last election.
01:20:18
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but if you look at this, I'm looking at a media release that the state government put out from January of this year, best emergency ambulance response times in more than four years. Okay they are priory one and two. So if you if you're an older person that's at a fall, you haven't seen any improvement, not based on what Paul, Not based on what Paul's saying.
01:20:41
Speaker 2: Very last, nice to hear the Ambulance Union drop on a few truth bombs on the government for change.
01:20:46
Speaker 1: Well it's coming to election, yeah season, that's when they do their best work.
01:20:49
Speaker 2: Chalk away, Well, well about time that you just call it as it is. Train delayed Adelaide Woodville train due to a truck hitting the cheap streak bridge Terry and Mardin is called in if you got some experience with trucks hitting the treef straight.
01:21:03
Speaker 1: Bridge sir, Terry.
01:21:05
Speaker 17: It's Kerry.
01:21:06
Speaker 18: Yeah, I did.
01:21:07
Speaker 17: My dad back in the early seventies worked for an insulation company, had a big truck and he went under the bridge and it got stuck and it peeled the top of the truck off and all the insulation came out, and it was featured in the newspaper called the Truck that Wouldn't duck. Oh no, we were very excited that Dad was in the front page of the paper.
01:21:30
Speaker 1: That he lost his job, Oh because of that, Carrie. Yeah, that's pretty hard.
01:21:37
Speaker 17: Yeah, I know, he just misjudged it. Every time I go under there, I think of Dad.
01:21:42
Speaker 1: Well, carry, He's not the only one. It's still happening. He's in good company. Yeah, the poor Blake. That's a great story, Kerry, thank you so much.
01:21:51
Speaker 33: That's okay.
01:21:53
Speaker 1: John Schuman in the building, coming up, very very surely, Scott Camprelli after eight thirty as well, ten years on from the de of Crow's coach Phil Walsh will be talking to him shortly. Let's check traffic first though.
01:22:04
Speaker 3: David Penberthy and Will Gooding's five double a Breakfast.
01:22:08
Speaker 1: Twenty two minutes after right jump on the Facebook and YouTube live stream. The legend himself John Schuman in the five Double a breakfast studio with us ahead of a Gige's playing at the GARV Saturday August sixth, seven thirty should I say August sixteen at seven thirty it's a sort of two for one show with the Vagabond Crew two up Behind the Lines and the Red Gum Years. John. Good morning to you.
01:22:30
Speaker 30: Will and Penbow. What an absolute delight to be here this morning.
01:22:35
Speaker 2: We always love having you in John, but it's always a lot of fun. As Weill said, this is this is a two for one show, isn't it, Because you've got the solo body of amazing solo work and then the Red Gum Years, so exploring both on the night.
01:22:47
Speaker 30: Yeah yeah, well, I mean the regum uses a no brain everybody wants to see that.
01:22:52
Speaker 1: But the.
01:22:54
Speaker 30: Behind the Lines or is actually a show based on an album I did, which is a collection of songs, some written by me, of course, but some written by others directly or indirectly reflecting Australians at war. And it's got a narrative. So I mercifully for the rest of the band, I don't speak. You know, we've got a friend of mine and actor Sale and O'Leary who who delivers a narrative, a linking narrative sort of between the songs. So it's like it's about our accord.
01:23:25
Speaker 1: It's really good. Did you write the narrative?
01:23:27
Speaker 30: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot, you know, poems and reflections from home and a little bits of history and all that sort of stuff, just because you know, I don't know about you blokes, but you go along to see a band and they go, well, here's another little song, and I go, something like this and give me a break. So I try to actually, you know, sort of engage the audience and give some context for the stuff. Usually it's me, but something like this, I thought it was really good just to have an actor who sort of appears in the light and just reads this stuff. So it's yeah, like it's a it's a music gig, but it's but it's a little bit.
01:24:06
Speaker 2: Theatrical too, Yeah, John, Is it fair to say, like Red Gum sort of the band, the timing of the band when they shot the prominence coming out of the moratorium March is the dismissal of the Whitlam government. Like Red Gum was seen as a sort of lefty band, you think, but penetrating, but you're you're sort of like not ideological journey, but your your work. Since then you spent a lot of time looking at police, looking at soldiers, looking at things like PTSD here, like I would say, incredibly empathetic towards people who a lot of the original Red Gum fans would have thought all the sort of you know, arms of the state in a way, well.
01:24:52
Speaker 10: Yeah, kind of.
01:24:53
Speaker 30: But look, look interestingly, in our Australians are pretty fair and decent, you know. And if you tell a story about somebody, whether it be a soldier or a copper, or a nurse, or a fire or a farmer or what, and I've done songs about all of them. We responded really well to stories as Australians, you know, where we're a nation of yarn spinners. And somehow you can you can get through the you know, the prejudices and the and the you know, the misunderstandings and the misapprehensions and get to the core of what it means to be an Australian in this place doing what we do, and that seems to have worked. I mean, I never ever wanted to, you know, write songs about my broken heart and strewing carraway seeds around the canyons in my mind, you know, like not not interested. I mean there's everybody else does that, you know, winging about their emotional lives, I.
01:25:46
Speaker 1: Mean, grow up emoting.
01:25:48
Speaker 30: Yeah, yeah, but I just I just like to tell tell stories about about us.
01:25:52
Speaker 2: Well, you're still doing that because you've got a use and we're gonna play We're going to play a bit of it shortly, but you're still you're still writing. You've still got that, And tell us a bit about this new song that you wrote just before Anzac Day this year, fishing that in the rain.
01:26:05
Speaker 30: Well, because you know, I've sort of been interested and work with you know, veterans a lot over the years, you know, from my work with nineteen and when the Royal Commission into Veterans suicide came up, I watched it. In fact, I was put forward to be a commissioner, but that genius Scott Morrison knocked me back because his answer was when my name was put forward, was wasn't he the one who nearly beat Alexander Downer in Mayo? I don't think we'll have him, well done, scoon.
01:26:35
Speaker 1: But anyway, I was done that Mayo has gone on to be a stronghold for him, So I.
01:26:39
Speaker 30: Wouldn't know, no, bet shark, he's got that seat. He's got that seat for as long as yep. But yeah, so I was following it and there was a story. There was a woman by the name of Julianne Finn who is one of the parents who actually drove the Royal Commission would not let up because her boy took his own life a sailor. And and then I decided, you know, like I tracked her down and she was kind of and courageous enough to share her her story, and her story of her son with me was appalling, absolutely appalling. Anyway, I decided that I would try to bolt a human face onto the Royal Commission in an attempt for us all to understand what I meant, and also to make sure the government follows through on the recommendations, because they're just as likely to have the recommendations there. It has been there, done that, tick the box, tick it on his shelf, and nothing happens. So this was an attempt to kind of bolt the human face on and she was very Julianne was fantastic. I mean, she you know must must have heard her to share the story. And it's been really, I mean these days it's been, it's been very successful.
01:27:58
Speaker 2: Well, it's one of the it's one of the tunes that you will be playing on Saturday, August sixteenth at the gov John. The show is two up behind the Lines and the Red Gum Years, and also including this new tube which you can hear now fishing in the rain. Thank you so much for coming in, John.
01:28:13
Speaker 30: What a joy, gentleman. Play nicely too, until teacher gets back from the stuff.
01:28:22
Speaker 31: I'm a sailor in the R. A. M.
01:28:26
Speaker 1: Stoker by my trade.
01:28:29
Speaker 34: I've been too many places for a boy from Adelaide learnt all the things at sea that the sailor needs to know by coming up along a side, casting off and letting go. Everything's a cheerless gray the ship to see the sky, and it's hard to steer a steady course between the truth and lies.
01:29:02
Speaker 31: There are honors and there are principles, these things that we hold dear. And how you cheer this between well, it really isn't clear.
01:29:16
Speaker 34: And one two many weeks away.
01:29:19
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01:29:24
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01:30:18
Speaker 2: After the tragic death of Phil Walsh, the job fell to our next guest to not just hold the team together, but also to coach them for the remainder of the twenty fifteen season. Remarkably, they made the finals that year, even winning the first final against the Western Bulldogs. But in the immediate aftermath of Phil's death, there must have been a hellish job just to keep the show on the road. Scott Campareley joins us to discuss what was just an extraordinarily tragic set of circumstances. Scott, good morning, mate, and thanks for coming in. Obviously, the circumstances under which he became the interim coach of the club were some that know no one could foresee. No one in there in their worst nightmares, would have ever seen a set of circumstances where you'd end up doing.
01:31:07
Speaker 1: The job the way that you did. How hard was it in those initial days?
01:31:13
Speaker 10: Yeah, thanks for having me.
01:31:15
Speaker 35: Yeah, it's yeah, it was. It was difficult, There's no question about that. But I guess in those particularly the early days, you know, we're navigating something that had never happened before anywhere in the world. So I guess let's senior key people at the footy club, plus you know, welfare people they fall back on. I guess their study and some of those things that you put in in practice. But it was really difficult time. Obviously it was a shock at first, and then we're trying to navigate an AFL season and then it happened on a Wednesday and we were supposed to play Geelong on the on the Saturday. So you know, Geelong, we're outstanding in terms of understanding and had I guess empathy for the situation. And there was no way that you know, the playing group or anyone at the club was probably ready to play. You would have been a pretty tough outing to the other and even you know, ten days later at West.
01:32:13
Speaker 10: Coast it was still pretty raw.
01:32:16
Speaker 35: But yeah, look, it was more around I guess, trying to get the group into a position where we not wanted to move on, but we actually wanted to get back to work and be in that sort of safe environment. You hear a lot of a round footy clubs or players and coaches. They're the best places to be, you know, when things aren't going quite well on the outside, and it's a bit of a sanctuary. So I guess we tried to make that a sanctuary where you could come in. It was a really open place. Obviously, it was really public, so the players were getting asked a lot of questions that they didn't really want to answer or couldn't answer. So we gave the players enough information that they could sort of move forward.
01:32:56
Speaker 10: But each day is different.
01:32:58
Speaker 35: We all grieve in different ways, and I guess that was the hardest part to navigate, was how we were going to navigate, you know, forty players and staff, not just the players around moving forward and how.
01:33:09
Speaker 10: Do we get it back on track.
01:33:12
Speaker 1: I think of anyone who goes through a loss, or a tragic loss, there's a weird moment where suddenly you have to think about a work thing. Yeah, so your mind goes back to a really mundane work task and just sort of feels weird and appropriate. But your workplace and the sort of morning we're all tied together, the sort of vivid memories around the sort of that weird feeling of the first moment you had to have a footy conversation.
01:33:33
Speaker 35: Yeah, well yeah, without going into too much detail, obviously, you know the phone call were there early to try and navigate what we're going to do, and then now we've got.
01:33:43
Speaker 10: To get the players in.
01:33:44
Speaker 35: So we've got the leadership group in first, obviously told them, but it was sort of starting to I guess head into a public forum, you know, with not necessarily knowing who it was, but you know, there was no names banding around, and then yeah, needed to have that conversation with the players. So yeah, that was that was pretty difficult, as you could imagine, because there was a lot of players that coming in that didn't really know what was going on, hadn't heard anything, you know, listen to music or you know, stuff on the way in and they're thinking, what the hell's going on here where we'd sort of been up since, you know, sort of three o'clock in the morning trying to I guess.
01:34:20
Speaker 10: Make crisis management. There was no.
01:34:22
Speaker 35: No, no textbook on any of that stuff.
01:34:26
Speaker 2: It was a pretty thick type group, wasn't it. We bored people like Chappy and.
01:34:31
Speaker 35: You and ye know we had we had wonderful key people at the time that navigated really well.
01:34:37
Speaker 10: Andrew Fagan was there as well.
01:34:39
Speaker 35: Emma Barr was our welfare manager who took on a fair workload and she was unbelievable with the players. And then obviously the coaches and the development coaches had really close relationships with the players, so we were pretty tight knit group. But in that circumstance. You know, it doesn't really matter how tight you are. Everyone deals with it differently. But yeah, it was it was pretty raw. And then having to stand up and tell the players what had happened and was that you had to do that? Well, well, part of it initially was you know, Chappy and fagues, but then once it's sort of I guess move on to the coaching bit. Not that it got announced straight away, but there was a process behind the scene as to who was going to take Not that anyone was sitting there going, yeah, let's put our hand up because we want to do it, but it sort of eventuated a couple of days later.
01:35:27
Speaker 10: But yeah, that was pretty tough, you know, because.
01:35:30
Speaker 35: Now there how do I how do I take not takeover it's not the right word, but how do we move forward as a coaching group? But yeah, and they were all dealing and they all dealt with it differently, you know, in that period of time.
01:35:43
Speaker 2: Was it made harder Scott by the fact that, even though he'd only coached for a short space of time, he'd clearly forward such close relationships and important relationships with a lot of the players for Wash.
01:35:53
Speaker 35: Yeah, absolutely, and that was one of his real strengths. You know that I've been lucky enough to play under and coach under a lot of senior coaches, and his immediate impact that he had on the group, and you talk about fits, you know, with senior coaches, and he was exactly what we needed at that point in time.
01:36:10
Speaker 10: We'd come off Neil Craig.
01:36:12
Speaker 35: We had Breton Sanderson who gave us a bit of an uplift and freed up the players and played in a prelim final. Then they obviously wanted to make a change, and then Phil came on board and he really just came in and said, right, this is what we do, and the players just jumped all over it, which is great.
01:36:30
Speaker 10: He was hard but fair.
01:36:32
Speaker 35: He had a quirky sense of humor with the playing group as well. He drove really high standards of the playing group, which they all absolutely loved. And he saw the best in people. I mean, you know, who would have thought at that stage Taylor Walker was going to be a great.
01:36:48
Speaker 10: Captain and the leader that he was.
01:36:49
Speaker 35: But he just recognized people, you know, not necessarily in the best player position that you get rewarded with the captain c He saw something in techs that we probably thought we knew that was there, but was he willing to take that next step? And Phiel gave him the confidence to do that.
01:37:08
Speaker 1: But yeah, he.
01:37:10
Speaker 10: He bought in some great stuff.
01:37:12
Speaker 35: And the players just loved the game style, the way that we're going to play the game, and that's important. As a senior coach, you need buying and he was able to do that in a short period of time.
01:37:20
Speaker 2: Was there ever a moment in the aftermath Scott where people at the club stood back and in their private moment said, how do we even restart?
01:37:29
Speaker 20: Like?
01:37:29
Speaker 1: Is this season? Is it? Are we? Are? We cooked?
01:37:32
Speaker 10: Yeah? Well not the interesting thing.
01:37:36
Speaker 35: I shouldn't say that we lost another great mate and Dean Bailey before that, so you know, so we went through his journey, who was a wonderful person at our footy club as well.
01:37:48
Speaker 10: That probably set up a little bit around that next phase as well.
01:37:53
Speaker 35: Very similar in personality because they both were at Poor, they both coached together, both had very similar to some of loses around. They coached in the game style. So we'd sort of mourn bails for some of the senior players there. And then obviously what happened with film We're thinking, jeez, how does this happen again? You know, to two great people in our footy club that we thought were going to be long standing people at the footy club that had made such an impact. But yeah, it was one of those ones. Is we just got to get back to, I guess, playing foot again and doing what we love. And that was the message I gave to the players is let's not waste the season. We're in a really good shape. Yes, feels no longer with us physically, but he'll be up there and he'd be pretty disappointed.
01:38:36
Speaker 10: I reckon if we just let the season, just let go. And that was probably the motivation in the end that got the players. I think so.
01:38:44
Speaker 35: I mean, whether you talk to players or not, but it was more around let's not waste the year and let's make him proud in what we wanted to achieve.
01:38:51
Speaker 1: We want to ask you about the first game following week against West Coast, but I imagine in a game, everyone's adrenalinees up, you're concentrating on the game once you get there. What was the first training like, Because I reckon it, trainings imprint would have been there, but you've got to everyone's got a moment to stop and think. I imagine that was pretty raw and difficult to.
01:39:12
Speaker 35: A certain extent, will because you know, whiles you you know, as a senior assistant, you're the I guess the one that's this is what we're doing for training, So there was not necessarily it was probably more game day and leading into the I guess the captain's run, because Field would run that meeting. You know, I would do the stoppage stuff. There'd be someone else that might do some ball movement and some of those key presentations. But I think it was probably more the game day, you know, scenario that really probably set in for the players, and I was probably worried about that, just because we just didn't know how the players were going to react to it.
01:39:47
Speaker 10: But you know, to their credit, I mean, we're in the fight early, but.
01:39:51
Speaker 35: You know later on in the game, you know, there was probably just a little bit of a download and then you saw after the game how emotional the players were, which is fair enough. I mean, you're on public display. The game's hard enough as it is about having to sort of deal with something like that. But I was really proud of the playing group and the way they handled it.
01:40:06
Speaker 2: What was it like after I mean, we've all seen those harrowing photographs of all the guys out there consoling each other and wiping tears away at the end of the game. What was it like afterwards in the rooms.
01:40:17
Speaker 10: I think there was a level of relief.
01:40:20
Speaker 35: I guess that they were able to get out there and play and obviously get over that first hurdle.
01:40:26
Speaker 10: It's like anything, isn't it When someone you know that.
01:40:28
Speaker 35: Your love or you've had in part of your life, and this is what people somewhat we spent a lot of time together. When you're in a coaching group, it becomes your family pretty much because you're there a lot of the time and.
01:40:41
Speaker 10: You deal with a lot of highs and lows. You know, with life with footy.
01:40:45
Speaker 35: You know you're always there for to be that sort of big brother or a father figure to these players. But yeah, I think it was a little bit more around relief more than anything that we're able to get back on track and somewhat move forward.
01:40:59
Speaker 2: I know the circumstance answers were completely different, but it's.
01:41:02
Speaker 1: Comparable in a way.
01:41:03
Speaker 2: I think to Jason McCartney's game post Balley, where he sort of came back, and by coming back, it was this sort of demonstration that life has to continue.
01:41:13
Speaker 35: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess completely different circumstances, but yeah, but yeah, it's still the same. But as I said, it was more just reinforcement around the players around let's keep moving forward. You know, if you're not in a position where you feel like you can train and you're not having a great day and you just need some time, that's fine. You know, let's have that environment that you can be open and honest and everyone deals with it. But to the boys credit, as I said, it was their sanctuary that they could come in and compete and train and do their normal routine, and they were able to do that.
01:41:47
Speaker 2: The remainder of the season is incredible, so that you know, despite everything that's happened, they make the eight, They win that opening match against the Bulldogs, lost the following week. I think to thet it went on the one the flat win the flag. Why did you decide at the end of the year not to throw your head in the ring for the permanent jobst.
01:42:08
Speaker 10: I get to ask this a lot, Pembo.
01:42:10
Speaker 35: It's an interesting one because you know, timing is everything with some of those key decisions, and you guys would have made decisions, you know, around your life and you and your job. I had business interests outside. At that point in time, I'd been in the job for six months. I knew I could do it, and it gave me good validation that I could do the job.
01:42:29
Speaker 1: I guess I was.
01:42:30
Speaker 10: Senior assistant for a long period of time.
01:42:33
Speaker 35: I think it was ten years at that stage, so I was probably done my apprenticeship in terms of, you know, if that was going to be the next pathway. I wasn't totally convinced that that's the pathway that I wanted to go on. As I said, I had business interest outside that. I was, you know, if footy, you know, stopped tomorrow, which always happens, you know, the longer're in it closer.
01:42:54
Speaker 10: To a day getting sacked.
01:42:55
Speaker 35: So and I lived the six months and my kids at that point in time my boys were eight, my daughter was six, and my wife and I was just you know, you have those moments that they go, Jesus, this really where I want to go Because I was never home. It was never and it was probably more amplified on the basis of what happened. But there's a lot of extra commitments, and having seen I guess part of it, you know, with what Phil went through, you sit there going, what's my balance in life? And I don't think we ever get it right. But you know, it was probably one of those moments ago. Actually, I don't think I want to throw my hat into the ring at this point in time.
01:43:36
Speaker 10: Do I regret it? No, not really. You know, I think I enjoyed the journey.
01:43:40
Speaker 35: I enjoyed my time in there, and we got a great coach, and Don Pike came in and we almost got there. We just feel short learned a lot a lot off him as well. But at the end of the day, it was one of those ones that I still had to go through the process. People go, why didn't they did they offer you the job? Well, no, we didn't because we had to go through the process and absolute we needed to do that from a due diligence point of view.
01:44:02
Speaker 10: But yeah, I guess. And part of the other thing.
01:44:05
Speaker 35: Too was, you know, it was Fuel's team and whether I was going to be able to imprint my philosophy or my sort of thoughts on the game from that perspective. So there was a few little things that sort of just tipped me over the end, but I think I made the right decision in the end.
01:44:23
Speaker 2: Well, it's an amazing, amazing thing to have been part of scott And you know that that year, I can remember every single person in South Australia watching that West Coast game was just you know, even thinking about it so for on incredible, incredible where you forget.
01:44:37
Speaker 35: Even you know, not that you think about a lot and you try not to, but you know, I remember going to the airport that week and remember everyone had the scarves hanging out there like even that, like going to like that still gives me chills now thinking about it, you know, because everyone was as a state, we rallied together, I mean Port were outstanding. Ken Henckley, you know, he was a wonderful support because obviously coached with Weals She, so he had that connection to Port.
01:45:03
Speaker 1: We should probably what do you remember about the showdown? What's your standout memory of the showdown?
01:45:08
Speaker 35: Well, I remember the last couple of minutes thinking how the hell can we not lose this because because at that stage all you're doing, I mean it was you know what you sit back and both Ken and I it was a high scoring game, and Phil loved that.
01:45:24
Speaker 10: Yeah, and so he would have.
01:45:26
Speaker 35: Been looking down on that. You know, jeez, I'm getting goosebumps talking about it. He would have looked down.
01:45:32
Speaker 10: And gone, that's how I want the game to be played, Like he would have been sitting out.
01:45:35
Speaker 35: This is great, and it's over to the players, you know, like as that last you know, two or three minutes. As a coach, you's somewhat helpless. Sometimes you're relying on your good players and players making really good decisions and the work that you do during the week in those close games for it to come through.
01:45:50
Speaker 8: But yeah, we.
01:45:51
Speaker 10: Almost coughed it up.
01:45:52
Speaker 35: But it was a great game, and once again that was a bit of relief as well that we're able to get that win and move forward. But yeah, it was a great showdown, even in its purity.
01:46:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an amazing photo of Koshi and Rob Chapman in the final minutes. Yeah, and it obviously been He meant so much to both clubs. Well, Scott, thank you so much for coming in today, and we'll catch up with you again saying thank you thanks for having me on.
01:46:21
Speaker 1: All right, let's check traffic.
01:46:22
Speaker 3: David Penberthie and Will Goodings five double a breakfast.
01:46:26
Speaker 1: Three minutes to nine. We wanted to give Campoy an opportunity to tell your story in full and reflect on the events of ten years ago. So what we've got instead with regard to the footy tips for this weekend from Bryan Fitzgerald is he sent him through to us, so we will get Fitzi's tips for you in just a few moments time before we wrap up this morning. But we just wanted to give Campo the full space to talk about something that. Look, I can't imagine he was particularly excited about coming into discuss but it was a huge event ten years ago on this day. Not exactly a tips his nightmare either this weekend. So top nine v Bottom nine ready was telling us earlier it could be seasoned over as far as the top eight almost or at least the top nine after this weekend, so let's whip through it. Fitsy tipped the Bulldogs against North He tipped Collingwood against Carlton, GWS against West Coast, Essenon against Gold Coast. He tipped the upset there, Geelong against Richmond, Brisbane against Port Hawthorne against Saint Kilda, the Swans against Frio so another upset there at bottom and Adelaide against Melbourne. So he tipped what to seven of the top nine to win their games. Two upsets though from fitsie A minute to night We're out of time. Stick around Graham Goodings is coming up
01:47:47
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