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Me now is Bill Jasper of The New American, the
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New American dot Com, Thenewamerican dot com. Take a look
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at this. The CCP in the Heartland. CCP in the
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heartland of America, that'd be the Communist Chinese Party. We'll
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talk about that in many other things with Bill Jasper. Bill,
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welcome back to the broadcast. Thanks for being with us,
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pleasure being here. Great to have you with us. All Right,
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what's the big news story you're covering? I mean, we
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just touched on that one, the CCP and the Heartland,
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But what else are you coming anything big? You're a
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investigative journeys's been doing this for decades.
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This is a feast of plenty. I tell you, it's
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like drinking out of a fire hose. There's so much
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happening all around us. One of the things I've worked
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on today and have intermittently over the last several days,
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is the indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center, the
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darling of the media, the hate group that loves to
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assign everyone else the hate group label. You have probably
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been singled out by them. I have the John Bird Society,
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of which I'm the president, has the New American which
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I'm senior editor has and of course the Family Research Council,
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American Family Association, Concerned Women of America, National Right to Life.
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Just about every Christian group has been singled out as
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a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. And
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now they are, after fifty years of carrying on this
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charade and raising hundreds of millions of dollars from clueless
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liberals who believe all of their attacks, that the America
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is just fraught with a seething mass of right wing,
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hysterical hate mongers, ku Kluxers, Nazis, etc. That are trying
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to lynch all LGBTQ elementop people, choose people of color, etc.
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They've been very successful at that. As for a poverty group,
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they call them the Southern Poverty Low Center. They're one
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of the richest organizations on the planet. They have reportedly
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close to half a billion dollars offshore in the Cayman
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Islands and in various trusts. So they are now finally
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coming under investigation, long deserved, long time coming, long delayed,
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and the charges so far, I hope and I think
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may just be the foot the first shoe to drop.
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They're being charged now for fraud and bank fraud, and
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donor fraud and mail fraud, I believe, and a number
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of other things in the indictment having to do with it. It
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is pretty serious. Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche said, the
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SPLC is manufacturing racism to justify its existence. It's actually so.
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They have used the specter of terrible racism and bigotry
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in the United States to raise money from all their
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liberal donors. But it's worse than that, because the indictment
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itself charges that they spent millions of these dollars that
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were raised to fight bigotry and racism, particularly the Ku
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Klux Klan, the United Clans of America, the Aryan Nations,
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the Republican Aryan Army, all of these groups that they
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had paid to, had gotten money from to defend America
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against They had actually been pouring into those organizations through
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their various assets that they call human human assets inside
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of those organizations. And so it appears, and this is
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what Todd Blanche was referring to, that they were stirring
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up hat For instance, one of the most infamous incidents
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that the media and the SPLC and other groups and
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Democrats used to attack Donald Trump was the infamous United
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United rally in Charlottesville back in twenty seventeen, right after
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Trump came into office, and that Unite the Right meeting
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was actually in some fashion directed by the SPLC, because
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one of their people was controlling the chat boards and
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the direction of all these people who were coming there.
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And it appears there were actually other leaders that were
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inside elements of these racist groups that were being funded
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by and directed by the Southern
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Poverty Law Center. So
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they make use of agent provocateurs under the guise of
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informants who are going to keep us informed about these things.
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And so this is a case of creating a toxin
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and a supposed remedy for it in the same laboratory.
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Yeah, well you just so you know our audience. Does
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Antifa in the Southern Probably Law Center successfully shut down
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four anti Islam conferences April twenty eighteen, And of course
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what they're talking about are my worldview weekends that they
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shout down in these various cities.
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Yeah, in four out of five cities.
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And of course it costs us a fortune because we
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sent out forty thousand pieces of mail and all kinds
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of stuff. So, you know, I wonder if they could
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seize these people's half a billion dollars as you report,
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to start distributing to the groups that have been damaged by.
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Them, well, hopefully, hopefully so. Now, there have been a
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number of lawsuits against the SPLC, only one that I
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know of has been successful, and it was a Muslim
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group that sued the SPLC for flagrantly mischaracterizing their group.
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They got I think three and a half million dollars
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from that, but there should be a couple hundred million
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dollars dished out to many of the other groups that
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have been defamed by them. And it's going to be
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difficult because we have so many left wing judges that
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the SPLC is very tight with. So over the past
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forty to fifty years we have seen ACLU National Lawyers,
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Guild judges, attorneys get into be appointed to the bench,
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and they have a very of course biased view when
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it comes to cases that are brought before them, which
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is why we saw all of the terrible law fair
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during the last ten years, particularly most visibly against Donald Trump,
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but certainly he was very high profile. Many of the
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other people who have brought lawsuits, justifiably so have not
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been able to prevail. They didn't have the name recognition,
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didn't have the backing, didn't have the public support, didn't
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have most of all the money. This is very important
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because you know, one of the people, one of the
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groups that the SPLC put on their hate map and
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their hate lists their intelligence brief infamously was the Family
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Research Council. And you recall what happened in twenty twelve
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when Floyd Lee Corkins and homosexual activists went into the
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Family Research Council headquarters in Washington, d C. With a
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firearm shot one of their security guards, an unarmed security
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guard that he was tackled and brought down before he
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could kill anyone. But Floyd Lee Corkins was carrying with
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him a hate map from the Southern Poverty Laws Center,
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and he said to the police, and he was later
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convicted and sentenced to prison twenty five years if I
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recall right, but he said specifically that he had I'm
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in there to kill as many of the FRC staff
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as possible, and he had also brought with him a
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bag of Chick fil A sandwiches. He said he was
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going to shoot and kill those staffers, and then he
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was going to smear these Chick fil A sandwiches in
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their face. Why was he so hateful? Because really, the
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definition of a hate group for the Southern Poverty Law
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Center is any group they love to hate. And obviously
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the FRC and American Family Association, your organization, and many
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of the other pro life, pro family Christian organizations that
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have been targeted by them, do not promote hate.
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See, here's a key thing with the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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They have been very very much driven to conflate all
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of the LGBTQ element op. They support transgenders, same sex marriage,
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all of those things, and many of their staff members
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and prominent advisors and people involved with them are lgbt folks,
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And so they want to conflate the choice of sexual
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identity with immutable benign things like
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will think, oh, yes, it's terrible, it's wrong, it's unjust
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to oppose same sex marriage or others so called rights
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for homosexual, lesbian transgenders. So they really are aiming at
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destroying Christian civilization, knocking down all standards which uphold Christian morality,
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and to do that they have to sneak into the
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attempt of race so that they can camouflage their real
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program with racial equity.
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Indeed, and that really brings me to an article you
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wrote back in March last month, Minneapolis Mayhem prelude to
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civil war. That's very interesting because this week we also
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reported on some new surveys showing the willingness by According
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to the poll, people on both sides of the political
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isle are willing to justify violence for their cause, and
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it seems to be now being accepted on both sides
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of the isle with a certain percentage for this new
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survey and pull that we read this week. How does
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all this play when you have these groups funding this hatred,
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promoting this hatred toward Judeo Christian groups, conservative groups. Now
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we have just such a chasm in the country, and
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you have the FBI director, you know, the former FBI
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director now two time indicted putting those seashells in the
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sand and then trying to you know, silly interview he
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did with Beaubert, trying to brush it off. I said
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to one of my guests last night, when you and
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I were growing up, I said, we would have never
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seen an FBI director or former FBI director talking like this. Ever,
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there was a certain quorum that people that reached those
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levels held, and they may have their private views, but
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they would never go do something like this. They were smarter,
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but they also understood the standards that were required as
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a former high ranking government official, to keep the decorum
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in the country, the balance in the country, the civility
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in the country.
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We don't have that.
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We have governors, members of Congress, former FBI director, We
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have people saying things that are fanning the flames.
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So the question is are we close a civil war?
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Do they want a civil war? And will there be
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a civil war?
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In your mind?
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Well, yes, So we've dealt with this a number of
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times in the New American magazine. We are definitely on
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a trajectory that's taking us perilously close to a civil war.
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And the folks that decry it the most, who decry
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incivility and inflamed rhetoric and one are the ones that
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are most guilty of it. I mean, we have seen
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over the past ten years now, the John Birds side,
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for sixty years, we've been called fascist, neo fascist, ku
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klux Klan, neo Nazi, racist, misogynists, islamophobes, homophobes, etc. We've
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been called that for decades and in recent years, however,
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many people have come to realize that that is just default,
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the last resort which everyone on the left resorts to
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when they can't answer your arguments, they can't deal with
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you on a reasonable intellectual claim. So when they don't
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like you, if they have enough power and they think
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you're weak enough, they just simply attack you. Well, we've
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survived all of that, but over the past decade, just
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about every other American group or class of people, from
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Christians to pro lifers, pro family, pro marriage, all of
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the pro goumment have been subjected to that label lynching
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as well. And so yes, we know that when it
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comes to really all of this inflamed rhetoric that they decry,
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it is the left that is most egregiously at fault
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in this. I have to say President Trump doesn't help it.
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He kind of veers off into the inflammatory rhetoric just
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and meaning and posting too frequently. I would like him
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to be more presidential in that regard. However, his remarks
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that are off base or off color whatnot, are nothing compared.
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For instance, just two weekends ago in Barcelona, Spain, we
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had the global mobilization, Global Progressive mobilization where we had
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leaders from over fifty sixty countries there and all representing
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the International Socialist Alliance, the Socialist International, the Progressive Alliance,
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many other the European pan socialist groups. So it was
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all socialist and communist Marxist Leninist folks there. But that
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didn't stop Zoron Mamdani and Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota,
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and Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, and Hillary Clinton and
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many others who the ones that didn't go there presented
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themselves on video as messages to the whole crowd, which
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was about I think five thousand leaders of very far
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left groups all over all over the world, including Lula
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from Brazil, Cyril Ramafosa, the communist leader of South Africa,
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and many others from from around the world. And so
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they they were all denouncing the United States, denouncing Trump,
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denouncing the US as a racist, fascist regime, I mean fascism, racism,
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neo Nazi. Those are terms that are used all of
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the time now when when I refer to someone as
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a communist, when I use C big C communists, that
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means they've actually been officially identified as a representative of
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or member of a communist party if we don't have
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that specific information on them, and they are Marxists, that is,
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they openly support Marxism or Marxism Leninism, we designate them
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as that. It isn't name calling, it is designating them
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so that people understand where they're coming from. We don't
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hide our Americanist constitutionalist positions on things. Communists, leftists, socialists
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frequently do and frequently even lie about it because they're
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trying to present themselves as liberal progressives, nothing to worry about,
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and that's where that's where the danger lies.
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And that what the founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin said,
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We're going to get a lot of flags. He's a
communist,
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so we're going to get a lot of flags wrap
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ourselves intitution quote the founding twenty.
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Yes he was. He was writing to Lewis Laughner, who
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is the head of the American Communist Organization, and he said, yeah,
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don't let me look like it's being run by a
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bunch of socialists. He said, we want to we want
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to appear to be pro Americans. So he said, yeah,
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have the constitution lots of flags, and that's what they've
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always done. So Roger Baldwin was for I think close
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to fifty years, the head of the American Civil Liberties Union,
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and he didn't admit to being an actual member, an
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actual communist until right at the end, just like Fidel Castro,
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he said he wasn't a communist, and all the media,
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the New York Times, the Washington Post, they all said
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he wasn't a communist. Robert wels the founder of the Jumpers,
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So he says everything in al in Fidel Castro's adult
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life shows that he is a communist all his whole life.
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He had been officially involved with the Communist Party in
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Colombia and in Cuba, and when he came back to
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Cuba in nineteen fifty eight, he was bringing a communist revolution,
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but he denied it. He says, oh, no, no, no, I'm
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a patriot. And of course Robert Welsh was right.
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I mean right the way about that.
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I got a clip by your founder, Robert Welch from
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nineteen fifty eight. I want to play real quick, but
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speaking of Cuba, do you think that couse? I just
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talked to Trevor Louden about it, and we both agree
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that we should take Cuba. It's been a national security
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risk for a long time, ninety miles off our shore, Florida.
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The people ought to be liberated, and there's a lot
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of benefits there, I think for America, American corporations, business
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owners who go in there and be entrepreneurs, and of
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course the Cuban pe people first and foremost can be
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liberated and have a return to their society.
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I think economically, national.
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Security wise, there's a lot of reasons for us to
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liberate Cuba. And tonight we see the Senate they failed
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at blocking President Trump from military funds to go into Cuba.
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Do you agree we should go ahead and take Cuba.
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Well, this was something advocated clear back in the nineteen
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sixties when we went off to Vietnam. So the Vietnam
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War was presented to us as a way to stop
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communism because communism was taking over Vietnam. And RT. Welsh
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said at the time he was the founder of the
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John Bird Society. He said, look, we are opposed to
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communism everywhere, but we should choose wisely, like any general
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in a battle, where you fight, how you fight, how
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you dispose of your resources in the order of battle.
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He says, Vietnam was designed as a battle for us
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really by our enemies. It's the longest furthest place from
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us on the globe, with the longest logistics and everything,
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the most expensive and most difficult thing for us to
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If I say, right ninety miles off of our shore,
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we have communists Cuba, and why are we going all
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the way over to Asia when right here in our
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own backyard and violation of the Monroe doctrine, we have
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a communist dictatorship which is not only oppressing the people here,
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but it was spreading revolution all over the world. And
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so I'm worried to some extent about President Trump's military
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assignments all over the world, because we are rapidly dispensing
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all of our missions and our missiles and our military
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equipment in very far flung things. And I recall when
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and you probably do. Two during the Vietnam War, we
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had the Vietnam North Vietnamese strategists whose name escapesy right now,
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saying we want one to three many Vietnams, and that
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became a war cry for Tom Hayden and all the
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rest of the SDS two three, for many Vietnams. In
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other words, they wanted to have revolutions all over, and
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if they could get us involved in multiple places all
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at once, then we would be greatly weakened. But Cuba
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is at our doorstep, and so it is a viable
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and a defensible that we finally remove this dictatorship and
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free the people of Cuba. Absolvely, I personally be in
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favor of me too.
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All right, now, let's go to a clip real quip
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free wrap.
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This is your founder of the John Birth Society back
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in nineteen fifty eight, Litsten to what he said.
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Part of that plan, of course, is to induce the
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gradual surrender of American sovereignty, piece by piece and step
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by step to various international organizations, of which the United
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Nations is the outstanding but far from the only example.
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Here are the eames for the United States. One greatly
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expanded government spending for every conceivable means of getting rid
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of ever larger sums of American money as wastefully as possible.
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Two higher and then much higher taxes. Three and increasingly
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unbalanced budget despite the higher taxes. Four wild inflation of
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our currency. Five government controls of prices, wages, and materials,
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supposedly to combat inflation. Six greatly increased socialistic controls over
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every operation of our economy and every activity of our
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daily lives. This is to be accompanied naturally and automatically
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by a correspondingly huge increase in the size of our
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bureaucracy and in both the cost and reach of our
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domestic government. Seven far more centralization of power in Washington,
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and the practical elimination of our state lines. There is
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a manifaceted drive at work to have our state lines
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eventually mean no more within the nation than our county
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lines do now within the states. Eight. They study advance
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of federal aid too, and control over our educational system,
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leading to complete federalization of our public education. Nine a
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constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of
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modern warfare, the beauties and the absolute necessity of peace,
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peace always on communist terms of course, And ten the
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consequent willingness of the American people to allow the steps
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of appeasement by our government which amount to a piecemeal
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surrender of the rest of the free world.
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And the prod of the surrender of the rest of
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the free world. Closing comments on that speech by your
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founder back in nineteen fifty eight, he nailed it didn't He.
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He did, and he nailed it on so many things.
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In fact, I dare anyone to find anything that's glaringly
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wrong that he said in all the many millions of
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worlds that he dispensed in print and in broadcasts. And
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you know so. For I've been with the Jombird Society
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and the New American Magazine now and its predecessors for
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fifty years this year, and I am always astounded when
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I go back and read these things at how prescient
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he was and how accurate we have been over the years.
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As senior editor of the magazine, I know we have
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never had to retract anything. We are very assiduous at
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going everything, everything very carefully. That's especially important now because
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deep fakes all across the Internet are becoming more and
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more difficult to discern whether they're real or not. And
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so we do that every day. And our belief it's
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it's better to be right than to be first, and
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so we we aren't in a rush to grab the
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latest thing and run out there with it. We want
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to look at it and say, Okay, what's really true here,
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what's really right? What needs to be what needs to
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be known, and what do we still have to research.
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So it's uh, We're we're in a very very perilous
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time right now.
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Indeed we are.
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I believe that we could be very close to a
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civil war and and we.
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Want to see that and the world the same time,
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and a world war at the same time, right I mean,
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And Trevor Louden and many of us have been saying
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for some time, the globalist would love to see America
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and a civil war and a world war at the
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same time. And I just got done with Trevor Louden
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talking about this war we're fighting with Iran is really
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us fighting China. We're fighting China through Iran. This is
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an economic war. This is about the death of the dollar.
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This is about bricks. It's about Russia, China and North Korea.
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And if we end up in a civil war. Many
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of the organizations here in the United States, and individuals
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who are constantly out there rioting in the streets or whatnot,
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are working in the service, many of them actually paid
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for as as you referred to the Minnesota article where
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I wrote about there, it's already been documented that many
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of these organizations are being funded by communists China. So
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if you we cannot get into China like they can
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get into here. They have hundreds of thousands of students,
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many of whom are legitimate students, but many of whom
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are actual agents for the CCP here in the United States.
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Y plus all of those that have come through illegally
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and legally into the US.
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So the New American dot Com The New American dot
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Com Bill Jasper investigative journalists. He's been doing this many decades, folks.
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You want to check out his writings there at the
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New American dot Com.
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Bill Great Senia, thanks for being on with us tonight.
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Thank you, Brennan.
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