Transcrição completa de The AI Bubble's Biggest Risk Was Never Leverage. It's Him.

00:03:36.900 was signs of an AI slash tech overinvestment 81 00:03:36.900 --> 00:03:39.420 bubble, call it whatever you want. You cannot 82 00:03:39.420 --> 00:03:42.280 be signing tits at public gatherings. If you're 83 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:44.220 a CEO of a Fortune 500 company, maybe 84 00:03:44.220 --> 00:03:47.260 the most important company, maybe at the heart 85 00:03:47.260 --> 00:03:50.500 of the entire financial market, the heart of 86 00:03:50.500 --> 00:03:52.600 what's coming in the next 10 years, the 87 00:03:52.600 --> 00:03:56.300 heart of basically every single bit of GDP 88 00:03:56.300 --> 00:03:59.540 growth in the biggest economy. earth, hard to, 89 00:03:59.540 --> 00:04:01.920 hard to be doing that and not see 90 00:04:01.920 --> 00:04:04.200 some repercussions. So we can, we can maybe 91 00:04:04.200 --> 00:04:09.880 start with, this guy, okay, I, like, I 92 00:04:09.880 --> 00:04:11.680 saw a number of different takes on this. 93 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:12.880 I'm going to try and tread lightly a 94 00:04:12.880 --> 00:04:14.720 little bit, even though probably I don't have 95 00:04:14.720 --> 00:04:16.240 to, but I ought to, uh, from my 96 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:18.120 own sort of Just that's not her in 97 00:04:18.120 --> 00:04:20.520 the background there, is it? No, it's not. 98 00:04:20.520 --> 00:04:22.000 Okay, that's big, sir. And I think that 99 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:23.940 might actually, that is racist, yeah, we got 100 00:04:23.940 --> 00:04:26.360 it, we've canceled now. I haven't looked at 101 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:28.720 her photo enough time. What's her real name? 102 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:30.940 Because it's not Alice. No, no shit. That's 103 00:04:30.940 --> 00:04:32.580 what we call in Canada. We call that 104 00:04:32.580 --> 00:04:34.020 your Mandarin name when you go eat at 105 00:04:34.020 --> 00:04:36.660 the Mandarin buffet. All the people working there 106 00:04:36.660 --> 00:04:38.400 are named like Tom, Sally, and Alice, but 107 00:04:38.400 --> 00:04:39.660 none of them are actually named. I'm not 108 00:04:39.660 --> 00:04:41.200 you're going to say it's Brampton Woman, Joey. 109 00:04:41.200 --> 00:04:43.080 No, it's not a Brampton woman. Okay, why 110 00:04:43.080 --> 00:04:45.340 don't we start with this? What do we 111 00:04:45.340 --> 00:04:48.940 expect a public company CEO from a public 112 00:04:48.940 --> 00:04:52.140 company CEO in terms of, like, bedroom behavior? 113 00:04:52.140 --> 00:04:55.220 The question is whether or not the market 114 00:04:55.220 --> 00:04:57.760 expects the same thing as any rational male. 115 00:04:57.760 --> 00:04:59.880 And I don't say this because I'm, you 116 00:04:59.880 --> 00:05:02.380 know, also running a harem of mistresses or 117 00:05:02.380 --> 00:05:04.860 anything like that. But at this level of 118 00:05:04.860 --> 00:05:08.440 success and wealth and influence, it's not just 119 00:05:08.440 --> 00:05:11.680 Chinese spies who are gunning,

you know, to 120 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:13.040 get, you know, they're not just, they're not 121 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.000 the only people lining up to get piped. 122 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:16.660 Let's leave it at that, okay? And so 123 00:05:16.660 --> 00:05:19.300 if you think that Jensen is any different 124 00:05:19.300 --> 00:05:21.220 from a guy like Bezos, right, who cheated 125 00:05:21.220 --> 00:05:23.680 on his wife with, what's her face there? 126 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.080 Any different than Tiger Woods, like you mentioned 127 00:05:26.080 --> 00:05:27.100 there, Nathan? You know, a guy. has a 128 00:05:27.100 --> 00:05:29.120 couple of kids and it turns out in 129 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:31.060 the now, apart from his green jacket, it's 130 00:05:31.060 --> 00:05:32.180 probably the thing he's going to be most 131 00:05:32.180 --> 00:05:34.120 well known for is that one, you know, 132 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.860 Saturday or afternoon, Saturday or Sunday afternoon where 133 00:05:36.860 --> 00:05:38.680 he crashed into a tree or a pole 134 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:40.660 or something out in front of his house, 135 00:05:40.660 --> 00:05:43.080 fucked up on pain meds because his wife 136 00:05:43.080 --> 00:05:46.000 caught him cheating, right? These guys all have 137 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:48.800 to deal with this level of temptation, we'll 138 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:52.080 call it. And I think the market broadly 139 00:05:52.080 --> 00:05:56.140 understands that when you're talking about key man 140 00:05:56.140 --> 00:05:58.580 risk, like we've said, before, it's not necessarily 141 00:05:58.580 --> 00:06:01.340 about one guy making a bad decision at 142 00:06:01.340 --> 00:06:02.420 this at this stage in the game in 143 00:06:02.420 --> 00:06:04.440 the year 2026. What it's about more, and 144 00:06:04.440 --> 00:06:06.680 we've joked about this, is are you going 145 00:06:06.680 --> 00:06:10.760 to do something that society finds so appalling, 146 00:06:10.760 --> 00:06:13.100 so unpalatable that it's going to affect your 147 00:06:13.100 --> 00:06:16.020 share price? I'm with you, Nate. I thought 148 00:06:16.020 --> 00:06:17.540 for sure this morning it was going to 149 00:06:17.540 --> 00:06:19.700 be a fucking bloodbath. Because Bitcoin, which is 150 00:06:19.700 --> 00:06:21.260 usually the first thing to react, especially when 151 00:06:21.260 --> 00:06:23.440 markets are closed, to off 2 % almost 152 00:06:23.440 --> 00:06:25.240 right away. As soon as the commentary came 153 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:26.740 out that Jensen was going to release a 154 00:06:26.740 --> 00:06:28.600 state, that NVIDIA's board was going to do 155 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.780 an investigation. And then obviously, it's going to 156 00:06:30.780 --> 00:06:31.840 be some other stuff we talked about in 157 00:06:31.840 --> 00:06:34.640 a second here. I think everybody in my 158 00:06:34.640 --> 00:06:37.140 circle of Bikwiners, you know, I wasn't talking 159 00:06:37.140 --> 00:06:38.340 to you guys yesterday, but in my circle 160 00:06:38.340 --> 00:06:40.680 of Bikoners, everyone's going, once the market opens, 161 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:41.980 it's going to get worse. But it never 162 00:06:41.980 --> 00:06:43.940 did. It never did, which is great. We 163 00:06:43.940 --> 00:06:45.920 love to see that. The question for NVIDIA 164 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:49.060 now, I think is twofold. One, how much 165 00:06:49.060 --> 00:06:50.880 financial impropriety was part of this? We're going 166 00:06:50.880 --> 00:06:52.660 to get into that in a second. And 167 00:06:52.660 --> 00:06:54.880 then the other question is, do you have 168 00:06:54.880 --> 00:06:56.900 a guy you can put in that seat, 169 00:06:56.900 --> 00:06:59.100 will command the cult of personality the way 170 00:06:59.100 --> 00:07:01.720 Jensen did. Jensen's very well spoken. He's pretty 171 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.640 good on a mic. He's very candid when 172 00:07:04.640 --> 00:07:06.300 he speaks. He's not afraid to say difficult 173 00:07:06.300 --> 00:07:08.660 things. He's much like Elon, maybe with a 174 00:07:08.660 --> 00:07:10.660 little more polish when it comes to being 175 00:07:10.660 --> 00:07:13.360 above reproach, being above the mob, being above 176 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:16.020 the sort of commentary at class and what 177 00:07:16.020 --> 00:07:17.680 they think of them and how he behaves 178 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:19.300 and all this stuff. But this is the 179 00:07:19.300 --> 00:07:20.980 ultimate challenge. This is hard mode. You cheated 180 00:07:20.980 --> 00:07:24.100 on your wife and went public. And now 181 00:07:24.100 --> 00:07:26.020 your wife is also getting dragged a little 182 00:07:26.020 --> 00:07:28.860 bit for her appearance. Like, it's like very, 183 00:07:28.860 --> 00:07:30.140 it's a very difficult situation to be in. 184 00:07:30.140 --> 00:07:31.820 I don't envy him. But man, I got 185 00:07:31.820 --> 00:07:35.000 to tell you, if anyone can handle this, 186 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.380 given the nature of the company that he's 187 00:07:37.380 --> 00:07:39.720 running, the importance of that company to the 188 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.360 U .S. government and to other companies in 189 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.700 that sphere of capax loans, flywheel, we've talked 190 00:07:45.700 --> 00:07:47.460 about all this stuff, man, I got to 191 00:07:47.460 --> 00:07:48.700 tell you, I don't think he goes anywhere. 192 00:07:48.700 --> 00:07:50.720 I don't care how bad this gets almost 193 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.020 unless there's something that's really, really damaging to 194 00:07:54.020 --> 00:07:57.040 the national interest. somehow. I don't think he's 195 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:59.000 going anywhere. I will caveat that with one 196 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:00.660 more thing, and then I'll pass it to 197 00:08:00.660 --> 00:08:03.480 whoever wants it next. The Democrats will

have 198 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:06.240 an opportunity to drag this guy into a 199 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:08.360 public hearing on January 4th if they want 200 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.440 it. And so the question becomes, will they, 201 00:08:11.440 --> 00:08:12.820 and how will it look if they decide 202 00:08:12.820 --> 00:08:15.720 to go that direction? Trump is bleeding popularity. 203 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:18.160 The Republican Party is bleeding popularity. This will 204 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.840 definitely start to give the anti -AI data 205 00:08:20.840 --> 00:08:23.600 center anti -AI crowd a little bit more 206 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:26.300 ammunition. That's tangible. and it's a name everyone 207 00:08:26.300 --> 00:08:28.040 recognizes you no longer have to talk about 208 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:30.540 whether or not the cooling loops are privatizing 209 00:08:30.540 --> 00:08:32.360 your water supply. It turns out this guy 210 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:34.200 is just a bit of a douchebed, right? 211 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:35.900 And people like that kind of thing. It 212 00:08:35.900 --> 00:08:38.300 sticks. Just ask Russell Brand. Okay, he'll tell 213 00:08:38.300 --> 00:08:40.560 you how much it sticks. So we'll see 214 00:08:40.560 --> 00:08:43.300 you. I'm fascinated by this. I am an 215 00:08:43.300 --> 00:08:45.780 Nvidia shareholder. I'm not going to sell. I'm 216 00:08:45.780 --> 00:08:48.100 still buying every week along with MSTR, which 217 00:08:48.100 --> 00:08:50.800 we'll talk about later. We know, Joey. We 218 00:08:50.800 --> 00:08:53.020 know. We know. The whole chat knows. Everyone 219 00:08:53.020 --> 00:08:55.040 knows. I'm holding on to Nvidia. I think 220 00:08:55.040 --> 00:08:56.520 you buy that. They're the leader. You buy 221 00:08:56.520 --> 00:08:58.940 that at any price and you hope that 222 00:08:58.940 --> 00:09:01.040 this blows over. My suspicion, honestly, I'd to 223 00:09:01.040 --> 00:09:03.220 bet is that it will. Well, I want 224 00:09:03.220 --> 00:09:03.920 to get, Brandon, I want to get your 225 00:09:03.920 --> 00:09:04.900 take on this. But the thing that sticks 226 00:09:04.900 --> 00:09:06.100 out to me is I've been waiting for 227 00:09:06.100 --> 00:09:07.340 this moment where I think the government's going 228 00:09:07.340 --> 00:09:09.040 to step in and take control of some 229 00:09:09.040 --> 00:09:10.860 of the AI companies. In some respect, I 230 00:09:10.860 --> 00:09:12.800 feel like the bubble popping was probably the 231 00:09:12.800 --> 00:09:14.920 excuse for national interest to step in. But 232 00:09:14.920 --> 00:09:17.520 national security leadership might be enough for them 233 00:09:17.520 --> 00:09:18.920 to get their hands in there. Brandon, your 234 00:09:18.920 --> 00:09:21.800 thoughts? Yeah, that's a great point. And the 235 00:09:21.800 --> 00:09:23.360 Democrats, like you said, Joey, I mean, that 236 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:27.260 those guys, coming after AI, basically anything that 237 00:09:27.260 --> 00:09:29.680 has anything to do with human progress, which 238 00:09:29.680 --> 00:09:31.420 is the irony of it, right? Like, they're 239 00:09:31.420 --> 00:09:33.400 the progressives, but it's always like anti -progress, 240 00:09:33.400 --> 00:09:34.640 which we talked about the other day of 241 00:09:34.640 --> 00:09:36.880 them, every commercial is always like them walking 242 00:09:36.880 --> 00:09:38.680 back their statements. And then like the other 243 00:09:38.680 --> 00:09:40.180 side was generally, like at least the Trump 244 00:09:40.180 --> 00:09:42.220 doctrine is like, hey, let's build stuff. Let's 245 00:09:42.220 --> 00:09:44.340 outgrow the debt, you know, whatever. So, you 246 00:09:44.340 --> 00:09:45.680 know, funny note there. But you go back 247 00:09:45.680 --> 00:09:47.560 to like FDR, FDR, there's a book. I 248 00:09:47.560 --> 00:09:48.520 haven't read a ton of it's like a 249 00:09:48.520 --> 00:09:50.320 thousand pages, but about FDR and all the 250 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.220 communists he had inside the white house and 251 00:09:52.220 --> 00:09:54.060 just all of some probably by design, because 252 00:09:54.060 --> 00:09:55.240 he, you know, he kind of, you know, 253 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:56.060 you know, floated that way a little bit, 254 00:09:56.060 --> 00:09:57.380 but also just the espionage. And this has 255 00:09:57.380 --> 00:09:58.800 been going on for thousands of years. And 256 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:00.760 so people, to your point, Joey, I don't 257 00:10:00.760 --> 00:10:02.900 know how much will happen. It my only, 258 00:10:02.900 --> 00:10:05.480 my only thinking of this is remember Howard 259 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:07.240 Dean 20 years ago, which we, we mentioned 260 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:08.900 Howard Howard on the show before, just yelling, 261 00:10:08.900 --> 00:10:11.740 yeah, and just like his campaign cratering, you 262 00:10:11.740 --> 00:10:14.300 know, in, in 2004 election. And then you, 263 00:10:14.300 --> 00:10:15.880 you fast forward 10, 12 years to the 264 00:10:15.880 --> 00:10:17.940 Trump election, the guy was just saying whatever, 265 00:10:17.940 --> 00:10:20.140 right? Like the montages of the Trump campaign 266 00:10:20.140 --> 00:10:22.100 in 2016 are something like, just the all 267 00:10:22.100 --> 00:10:24.420 timers of all timers. And just him, like, 268 00:10:24.420 --> 00:10:25.360 you know, you should be in. jail, you 269 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:27.100 know, to Hillary and all this stuff. Like, 270 00:10:27.100 --> 00:10:28.800 he, he kind of showed, like, we've moved 271 00:10:28.800 --> 00:10:30.980 beyond, you know, call on what it is. 272 00:10:30.980 --> 00:10:32.320 People just have a lot less, you know, 273 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:35.580 faith or, you know, religious, spiritual, spirituality, you 274 00:10:35.580 --> 00:10:37.460 know, nowadays than people did. You had this, 275 00:10:37.460 --> 00:10:39.400 like,

level of, like, ethics or morality that, 276 00:10:39.400 --> 00:10:40.840 like humans just like, okay, you got to 277 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:43.080 be at this standard. That's largely gone. Like, 278 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:44.200 a lot of people just don't care. So 279 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:45.980 to your point, Joey, again, is this really 280 00:10:45.980 --> 00:10:47.260 going to do much? I mean, Bill Clinton 281 00:10:47.260 --> 00:10:48.740 stayed in power. He was, you know, had 282 00:10:48.740 --> 00:10:50.600 Monica under the desk in the Oval Office. 283 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:51.780 People didn't care. I mean, that that was 284 00:10:51.780 --> 00:10:53.120 like, that was like, that was like the 285 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:56.240 most PG thing that he's done from allegations 286 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.880 that I've seen online. Exactly. So, I mean, 287 00:10:58.880 --> 00:11:00.500 like, I would be more shocked that he 288 00:11:00.500 --> 00:11:02.240 would leave because he would be ousted than 289 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:03.720 him staying. I mean, like, that would be 290 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:06.040 kind of shocking to me. Unless, like you 291 00:11:06.040 --> 00:11:08.220 guys said, like, unless there's just way more 292 00:11:08.220 --> 00:11:09.520 to it, you know, obviously, like, what was 293 00:11:09.520 --> 00:11:11.420 the level that this went to, what, you 294 00:11:11.420 --> 00:11:14.800 know, what kind of information. But this is, 295 00:11:14.800 --> 00:11:16.280 this is to me, like, you think of 296 00:11:16.280 --> 00:11:19.360 Eric, Eric Swalwell and, you know, so they're 297 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.560 just clowns. But Sean Ryan had on, I 298 00:11:22.560 --> 00:11:23.620 don't know what it was like early this 299 00:11:23.620 --> 00:11:24.820 year, but he had like a sex agent. 300 00:11:24.820 --> 00:11:27.640 on like a KGB sex agent and it 301 00:11:27.640 --> 00:11:29.720 was a really fascinating episode but she was 302 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:32.520 groomed since she was like 16 18 to 303 00:11:32.520 --> 00:11:34.580 be a sex agent and you go back 304 00:11:34.580 --> 00:11:36.200 to like Cleopatra and you know Helen of 305 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:37.460 Troy or whatever like all of them like 306 00:11:37.460 --> 00:11:39.960 right like men always these these guys in 307 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:41.720 power like the the key man risk like 308 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:43.420 you know Joey just said like is very 309 00:11:43.420 --> 00:11:45.640 real and the tiger woods all this where 310 00:11:45.640 --> 00:11:46.740 you just think you're on top of the 311 00:11:46.740 --> 00:11:49.140 world and you just you're like in the 312 00:11:49.140 --> 00:11:50.760 zone it's like Caleb Williams on Monday Night 313 00:11:50.760 --> 00:11:52.380 Football last night like you just think I'm 314 00:11:52.380 --> 00:11:54.500 so in the zone that I can do 315 00:11:54.500 --> 00:11:56.000 no wrong. and then you throw four interception. 316 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.020 A terrible game. So high on your own 317 00:11:59.020 --> 00:12:00.440 supply that you just think you, anything you 318 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:02.680 touch turns of gold. And so that's just 319 00:12:02.680 --> 00:12:04.980 the human nature, the befallen human nature that 320 00:12:04.980 --> 00:12:06.920 we're in, where you have these sex agents 321 00:12:06.920 --> 00:12:08.500 that just, they wait for their time and 322 00:12:08.500 --> 00:12:10.620 they can get men to do wild things. 323 00:12:10.620 --> 00:12:12.780 and so I think my thing for everyone 324 00:12:12.780 --> 00:12:14.400 is just prepare. we talk about this all 325 00:12:14.400 --> 00:12:16.600 the time in the show too, your sovereignty 326 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.380 stack, your privacy stack, your your 5Gs, your 327 00:12:19.380 --> 00:12:22.120 guns, your gold, your your Bitcoin and all 328 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:23.700 this stuff, your grub, your ground, like make 329 00:12:23.700 --> 00:12:25.120 sure these things are prepared. because this is 330 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:27.360 only going to get crazier, in my opinion. 331 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:28.920 I know many of your opinions, it's only 332 00:12:28.920 --> 00:12:30.560 going to get more nuts as this forth 333 00:12:30.560 --> 00:12:33.460 turning, this bridge time, you know, goes on 334 00:12:33.460 --> 00:12:35.880 here because that's the way Fiat has to 335 00:12:35.880 --> 00:12:37.440 die. It has to get crazier for people 336 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.080 to finally be on their knees, but I've 337 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:40.420 had enough. And so to me, this is 338 00:12:40.420 --> 00:12:41.500 just like an appetize, like an hors d 339 00:12:41.500 --> 00:12:43.700 'oeuvre's hour right now. I love it. Walker, 340 00:12:43.700 --> 00:12:49.280 your thoughts there? Boy, I mean, I don't 341 00:12:49.280 --> 00:12:52.160 know, maybe like you publicly traded CEOs need 342 00:12:52.160 --> 00:12:55.220 like mandatory chastity belts or something like that. 343 00:12:55.220 --> 00:12:57.400 I'm not, bad way to go. You have 344 00:12:57.400 --> 00:12:58.960 to do it's best for the investor, right? 345 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:02.120 You have an obligation to your shareholders. Yeah, 346 00:13:02.120 --> 00:13:03.980 boy, I mean, I think that Joey's right. 347 00:13:03.980 --> 00:13:07.340 We were talking about this backstage. Like, ultimately, 348 00:13:07.340 --> 00:13:08.980 like, there's, I mean, our culture is just 349 00:13:08.980 --> 00:13:12.420 degraded into so much, like, acceptance of trash 350 00:13:12.420 --> 00:13:14.720 behavior that it's not going to be the, 351 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.040 it's not going to be the, it's not 352 00:13:16.040 --> 00:13:18.100 going to be the, uh, the sexual impropriety, 353 00:13:18.100 --> 00:13:20.800 you know, the adultery that is what, you 354 00:13:20.800 --> 00:13:22.620 know, potentially does Jensen. And it's going to 355

00:13:22.620 --> 00:13:24.400 be if, like, if he, you know, it's 356 00:13:24.400 --> 00:13:27.060 not going to be. conducted his business in 357 00:13:27.060 --> 00:13:30.100 such a way that he was either trading 358 00:13:30.100 --> 00:13:32.460 with or, you know, selling things to covered 359 00:13:32.460 --> 00:13:34.100 entities. And for those who don't know, like 360 00:13:34.100 --> 00:13:35.400 a covered entity is somebody who's on like 361 00:13:35.400 --> 00:13:37.180 the no sell list for the US government, 362 00:13:37.180 --> 00:13:39.040 like if you sell to them, you get 363 00:13:39.040 --> 00:13:40.460 in big fucking trouble. I mean, if you're 364 00:13:40.460 --> 00:13:41.760 a normal person anyway, I don't know if 365 00:13:41.760 --> 00:13:43.720 you're like the, you know, holding up the 366 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:45.840 entire fucking S &P 500, maybe you get 367 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:46.880 a little bit of a, maybe you get 368 00:13:46.880 --> 00:13:48.100 a little bit of a pass. I mean, 369 00:13:48.100 --> 00:13:49.940 like, that's the other thing. It's like the 370 00:13:49.940 --> 00:13:52.580 rules like, and it probably does depend a 371 00:13:52.580 --> 00:13:55.340 little bit on the demo. Democrats and how 372 00:13:55.340 --> 00:13:58.220 they choose to pursue something like this or 373 00:13:58.220 --> 00:14:01.320 not, because let's be honest, like, none of 374 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:02.960 them really give a shit either. They only 375 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.480 get, no politician actually gives a shit about 376 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:07.600 anything that they, that they bitch about. All 377 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:09.640 they actually care about is whether or not 378 00:14:09.640 --> 00:14:10.800 they're going to get a good sound bite 379 00:14:10.800 --> 00:14:11.840 out of it and whether it'll make them 380 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.400 look like the good guy. That is all 381 00:14:13.400 --> 00:14:15.220 they care. They care about the semblance. They 382 00:14:15.220 --> 00:14:17.240 care about the, the, uh, the, the, the, 383 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:20.680 the, the perspective, the idea of themselves and 384 00:14:20.680 --> 00:14:22.520 how that will be taken by voters. They 385 00:14:22.520 --> 00:14:23.980 don't actually care about anything they do, which 386 00:14:23.980 --> 00:14:24.400 is what most of the, uh, the, the, 387 00:14:24.400 --> 00:14:24.840 uh, the, the, the, uh,! the time they 388 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.360 don't actually do anything so let's see but 389 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:29.740 yeah i think you know i don't think 390 00:14:29.740 --> 00:14:31.920 this is gonna end him unless it turns 391 00:14:31.920 --> 00:14:33.980 out that he was like selling things to 392 00:14:33.980 --> 00:14:36.100 people he shouldn't doing sweet our deals selling 393 00:14:36.100 --> 00:14:38.620 stuff to the chinese military that he shouldn't 394 00:14:38.620 --> 00:14:40.440 have been and stuff like that because that 395 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:41.900 kind of stuff it looks pretty bad do 396 00:14:41.900 --> 00:14:43.800 we do we know by the way who 397 00:14:43.800 --> 00:14:48.320 revealed the affair did did he come clean 398 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.980 he did after so i have here did 399 00:14:50.980 --> 00:14:53.620 somebody else break it that's the times on 400 00:14:53.620 --> 00:14:56.200 the 28th Is the first thing I see. 401 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:57.460 Yeah. Okay, yeah. I'm not sure how they 402 00:14:57.460 --> 00:14:58.660 got it, but that's the first thing I 403 00:14:58.660 --> 00:15:00.280 see. Because he was pulled in front of 404 00:15:00.280 --> 00:15:02.380 a committee. So three House Republicans committee chairs 405 00:15:02.380 --> 00:15:04.680 have asked Navidia CEO, Jensen Wang, to sit 406 00:15:04.680 --> 00:15:08.100 in a closed door briefing on November 18th. 407 00:15:08.100 --> 00:15:09.880 I thought that they had a prior meeting 408 00:15:09.880 --> 00:15:12.120 beforehand where they had revealed this as well. 409 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:13.540 So I'm not sure when it broke, but 410 00:15:13.540 --> 00:15:15.560 I feel like basically cat got out of 411 00:15:15.560 --> 00:15:16.920 the bag. There were some issues there and 412 00:15:16.920 --> 00:15:19.440 then he later admitted to it after the 413 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:24.880 allegations were already floating around. So presumably, presumably 414 00:15:24.880 --> 00:15:30.620 like the Chinese probably leaked this, right? I 415 00:15:30.620 --> 00:15:32.100 would assume that if they were still getting 416 00:15:32.100 --> 00:15:36.080 useful intel from him, that they would have 417 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:38.300 probably kept this a secret for longer, but 418 00:15:38.300 --> 00:15:40.140 they realized they could do maximum damage right 419 00:15:40.140 --> 00:15:43.140 now by making said affair public. Just like 420 00:15:43.140 --> 00:15:46.440 my guy, I'm no expert in, you know, 421 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.520 espionage, but that's just what I'm guessing. And 422 00:15:48.520 --> 00:15:50.560 the Chinese do have tend to have a 423 00:15:50.560 --> 00:15:52.700 bit of more of a long -term planning 424 00:15:52.700 --> 00:15:56.340 mindset, I think, oftentimes. than the, uh, then 425 00:15:56.340 --> 00:15:58.240 we Americans do simply because they don't have 426 00:15:58.240 --> 00:15:59.760 to think in four year cycles because the 427 00:15:59.760 --> 00:16:01.660 party reigns supreme. You know, they're, they're not 428 00:16:01.660 --> 00:16:04.100 a, it's, it's not a real, like, okay, 429 00:16:04.100 --> 00:16:06.880 it's, it's, it's communist control with some elements 430 00:16:06.880 --> 00:16:09.020 of, uh, free trade capitalism that allow them 431 00:16:09.020 --> 00:16:11.600 to actually keep their communist, uh, system of 432 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.360 control going. So I would be interested. I 433 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:16.340 mean, we can, we know

for a fact, 434 00:16:16.340 --> 00:16:17.860 and it's interesting to zoom out a little 435 00:16:17.860 --> 00:16:18.960 bit and see how this sort of dovetails 436 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.100 with their release of, or they're, uh, allowing 437 00:16:23.100 --> 00:16:26.180 the release of various, open source open weight 438 00:16:26.180 --> 00:16:29.700 models and that the goal is seems to 439 00:16:29.700 --> 00:16:35.300 be pretty obviously to basically erode the capital 440 00:16:35.300 --> 00:16:37.600 base of the majority of the U .S. 441 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.640 stock market by decreasing the moat of these 442 00:16:40.640 --> 00:16:43.480 big AI players. That's on the software side. 443 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:45.280 Now this is on the hardware side of 444 00:16:45.280 --> 00:16:47.600 AI, right? So they're clearly trying to, they 445 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:49.200 know that most of the U .S. economy, 446 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:50.360 or in terms of the stock market at 447 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.020 least, is propped up by, you know, there's 448 00:16:53.020 --> 00:16:54.800 so much fucking money in these. in these 449 00:16:54.800 --> 00:16:56.820 AI companies, both software and, like, hardware said. 450 00:16:56.820 --> 00:16:59.200 Invidia, it, like, I mean, it's insane how 451 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:01.780 huge they are, right? Obviously, they produce really 452 00:17:01.780 --> 00:17:03.780 great products, but, like, the Chinese clearly see 453 00:17:03.780 --> 00:17:05.760 that as, like, well, that's a very obvious, 454 00:17:05.760 --> 00:17:07.720 like, thing to poke at, to try and 455 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:09.540 chip away at. And so it seems to 456 00:17:09.540 --> 00:17:11.180 me that this is part of a, I 457 00:17:11.180 --> 00:17:13.420 think that it was probably less about intelligence 458 00:17:13.420 --> 00:17:15.720 gathering, and it was more about having a 459 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:18.260 way to destabilize the U .S. economy, if 460 00:17:18.260 --> 00:17:19.980 I had to guess. Because if it was 461 00:17:19.980 --> 00:17:23.420 about intelligence gathering, like, I don't know, like, 462 00:17:23.420 --> 00:17:24.420 it's such a, it's such a, it's, it's, 463 00:17:24.420 --> 00:17:25.520 such an old, I mean, I guess it's 464 00:17:25.520 --> 00:17:26.880 an old school way, you know, tried and 465 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:28.720 true method, you know, get a, get a 466 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:31.920 sex spy in there. But I have to 467 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.300 imagine that they're not like, that they have 468 00:17:34.300 --> 00:17:37.440 the ability to reverse engineer probably most of 469 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:40.620 Nvidia's technology already, if I had to guess. 470 00:17:40.620 --> 00:17:42.560 I don't think they needed Jensen for that, 471 00:17:42.560 --> 00:17:44.540 right? Maybe they sold some things people that 472 00:17:44.540 --> 00:17:45.820 couldn't, but I guarantee they could have gotten 473 00:17:45.820 --> 00:17:47.500 their hands on all this shit in a 474 00:17:47.500 --> 00:17:49.380 number of other ways that were probably less 475 00:17:49.380 --> 00:17:51.940 difficult. This to me seems like a larger 476 00:17:51.940 --> 00:17:54.420 bid to try and destabilize the U .S. 477 00:17:54.420 --> 00:17:56.740 economy if I had just just my two 478 00:17:56.740 --> 00:17:58.040 cents I don't know what you guys think 479 00:17:58.040 --> 00:18:00.460 no I don't necessarily disagree because again going 480 00:18:00.460 --> 00:18:01.500 back to that key man risk that was 481 00:18:01.500 --> 00:18:02.400 one of the things that I was really 482 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.360 kind of focusing on well prepping today was 483 00:18:04.360 --> 00:18:07.500 just this idea like we're so beyond any 484 00:18:07.500 --> 00:18:10.080 P .E. multiple or like the underlines the 485 00:18:10.080 --> 00:18:12.380 fundamental investor evaluation but it's so out there 486 00:18:12.380 --> 00:18:15.140 it's purely marketing and personality and vibes at 487 00:18:15.140 --> 00:18:17.100 this point in time which again like you 488 00:18:17.100 --> 00:18:19.660 could go through uh Zuckerberg and Elon and 489 00:18:19.660 --> 00:18:22.660 Jensen and even Sailor and strategy like it 490 00:18:22.660 --> 00:18:24.660 has very little to do with the lying 491 00:18:24.660 --> 00:18:25.960 to help people feel about it, that if 492 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:27.180 you want to hurt the stock market, you 493 00:18:27.180 --> 00:18:28.340 go after the key man, which also means 494 00:18:28.340 --> 00:18:29.920 it's a huge vulnerability. I'm not thinking that 495 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:31.000 if we have some sort of black swan 496 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:32.900 event, it's probably related to one of those 497 00:18:32.900 --> 00:18:34.680 guys in their personal life, something personally going 498 00:18:34.680 --> 00:18:36.320 on with them. Joy, I know there are 499 00:18:36.320 --> 00:18:37.340 some other things I want to get into 500 00:18:37.340 --> 00:18:38.720 with you in a second, specifically about where, 501 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:40.200 hey, you may have been selling chips or 502 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:42.160 information, but the other thing I just want 503 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:43.780 to, like, pause on for a second, because 504 00:18:43.780 --> 00:18:45.360 I think it's really important, you know? We 505 00:18:45.360 --> 00:18:47.300 have, you know, mostly men watching and the 506 00:18:47.300 --> 00:18:48.660 occasional lady from time to time, but I 507 00:18:48.660 --> 00:18:50.120 just won't take a moment to pause to 508 00:18:50.120 --> 00:18:51.400 say, there are women. There are women, there 509 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:52.460 are dozens of them, and we love you 510 00:18:52.460 --> 00:18:55.360 all for being here. you there is like 511 00:18:55.360 --> 00:18:58.820 there is huge value in marriage and staying 512 00:18:58.820 --> 00:19:00.360 true like this is

how great men get 513 00:19:00.360 --> 00:19:02.340 taken out and I cannot stress that enough 514 00:19:02.340 --> 00:19:03.880 that like for the love of God marriage 515 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:05.140 is both good for women and for men 516 00:19:05.140 --> 00:19:06.100 there's a bit of a difference in the 517 00:19:06.100 --> 00:19:07.640 trade there but they both come into play 518 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:09.060 like this is how the great guy's taken 519 00:19:09.060 --> 00:19:10.260 out it's not by threats it's not by 520 00:19:10.260 --> 00:19:12.280 this is it's always by blackmail some crap 521 00:19:12.280 --> 00:19:13.560 they did behind the seats with some woman 522 00:19:13.560 --> 00:19:15.300 that's where they're vulnerable for the love of 523 00:19:15.300 --> 00:19:17.120 god like if you really want to make 524 00:19:17.120 --> 00:19:18.360 it to the end and be remembered and 525 00:19:18.360 --> 00:19:21.020 have that legacy don't tarnish it by like 526 00:19:21.020 --> 00:19:22.740 just screwing around with some Chinese spy who 527 00:19:22.740 --> 00:19:23.620 happened to show up at the bar where 528 00:19:23.620 --> 00:19:25.560 you're out there drinking one night. Like, don't 529 00:19:25.560 --> 00:19:27.380 let you be this guy on all the 530 00:19:27.380 --> 00:19:29.000 covers. Don't let this happen to you. It's 531 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:30.820 just absolutely not worth it. Like, I was 532 00:19:30.820 --> 00:19:32.960 talking to Joey beforehand. Like, this is where 533 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:34.640 the whole, like, dating aspect has been completely 534 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:37.260 screwed is that there was this wonderful fair 535 00:19:37.260 --> 00:19:39.160 trade that women, I kind of like their 536 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:40.960 peak were going in on a guy that 537 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:42.380 was just at the beginning. So she's like, 538 00:19:42.380 --> 00:19:43.620 okay, I'm going to go on on him 539 00:19:43.620 --> 00:19:45.700 because I've evaluated him as having potential and 540 00:19:45.700 --> 00:19:47.440 I'm going to commit to him, right? Her 541 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.720 benefit, his benefit is he gets pretty much 542 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:51.080 a guaranteed thing right now. I know where 543 00:19:51.080 --> 00:19:52.200 this stands and now I got to live 544 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:53.820 up to it. But the trade is that 545 00:19:53.820 --> 00:19:55.500 if he's successful, if she was right about 546 00:19:55.500 --> 00:19:57.520 his potential, she gets the benefit if he's 547 00:19:57.520 --> 00:19:59.740 locked to her for the future. The Keanu 548 00:19:59.740 --> 00:20:02.100 Reeves move of like not touching other coworkers 549 00:20:02.100 --> 00:20:03.600 and keeping very much to himself. If you 550 00:20:03.600 --> 00:20:05.840 remember, what was the other like vice president 551 00:20:05.840 --> 00:20:07.800 with Trump? I can't remember right now. Pence. 552 00:20:07.800 --> 00:20:08.940 Pence. Thank you. Pence is like, I don't 553 00:20:08.940 --> 00:20:10.460 have dinner without my wife there with a 554 00:20:10.460 --> 00:20:13.580 great advice. Great advice. Great advice. Great advice. 555 00:20:13.580 --> 00:20:15.500 Not only age of like me too and 556 00:20:15.500 --> 00:20:16.560 all this crap, but for the love of 557 00:20:16.560 --> 00:20:17.620 God, you guys are Bitcoiners. You're going to 558 00:20:17.620 --> 00:20:19.480 be the most successful person in your circle. 559 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:20.380 And if they're not going to be able 560 00:20:20.380 --> 00:20:21.520 to hack your keys, that's a lot. point 561 00:20:21.520 --> 00:20:23.080 in time they might send in one of 562 00:20:23.080 --> 00:20:25.920 these like ukrainian spies these little sex operators 563 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:27.400 to come in there and extract it from 564 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:29.760 you the old -fashioned way so some guys 565 00:20:29.760 --> 00:20:30.680 be given this guy's been giving this one 566 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:32.980 delilah he's got a million terms here sex 567 00:20:32.980 --> 00:20:35.780 spies sex operators they got to have them 568 00:20:35.780 --> 00:20:37.140 all ready to go i've spent a lot 569 00:20:37.140 --> 00:20:39.100 of time with professor colin talking about mk 570 00:20:39.100 --> 00:20:40.980 ultra and there's some crazy shit going on 571 00:20:40.980 --> 00:20:43.400 out there but just public service announcement guys 572 00:20:43.400 --> 00:20:45.420 find a good one lock it down and 573 00:20:45.420 --> 00:20:47.120 don't fuck yourself over by going out there 574 00:20:47.120 --> 00:20:49.500 and doing something god damn stupid like this 575 00:20:49.500 --> 00:20:51.320 joey though getting into the other part There 576 00:20:51.320 --> 00:20:53.060 were some other information. You can also give 577 00:20:53.060 --> 00:20:54.500 me your comments on that, but some other 578 00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:56.200 information with regards to what he may have 579 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:57.660 done that may not be so good for 580 00:20:57.660 --> 00:21:02.080 Jensen here. Let's start with this, okay? If 581 00:21:02.080 --> 00:21:04.000 you're Jensen, if you're going to stray, like, 582 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.600 this girl's not really that much of a 583 00:21:05.600 --> 00:21:07.160 bullet, you know? Like, you could have probably 584 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.320 done better. I realize there's obviously some like 585 00:21:09.320 --> 00:21:11.260 other relationship stuff that's important, which we should 586 00:21:11.260 --> 00:21:14.300 talk about. So this, this lady is, I 587 00:21:14.300 --> 00:21:15.480 sent you a tweet, Nate, in the backchap. 588 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:17.700 Yeah, pull it up. This lady's been around 589 00:21:17.700 --> 00:21:20.080 in Vida for a long time. And she 590 00:21:20.080 --> 00:21:22.240 has like some ties to Ali Bolleyball. and 591 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:24.900 some ties to another

company called Megaspeed. And 592 00:21:24.900 --> 00:21:27.860 basically the thinking is that these guys were 593 00:21:27.860 --> 00:21:32.380 all sort of getting Nvidia secrets through this 594 00:21:32.380 --> 00:21:34.760 girl and her relationship with Jensen. And the 595 00:21:34.760 --> 00:21:36.360 thing I can't figure out as far as 596 00:21:36.360 --> 00:21:39.700 like this story about the cheating, like I 597 00:21:39.700 --> 00:21:42.320 would never pose for pictures the way that 598 00:21:42.320 --> 00:21:44.080 this guy is posing for pictures with her 599 00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:46.740 with another woman who wasn't my wife. Like 600 00:21:46.740 --> 00:21:48.040 this is this is the most tame one, 601 00:21:48.040 --> 00:21:49.340 but there are others in the photo dump 602 00:21:49.340 --> 00:21:51.020 here. If you just scroll over a bit, 603 00:21:51.020 --> 00:21:51.240 where it's like, like, it's like, like, this 604 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:51.900 is, this is the most tame one. like, 605 00:21:51.900 --> 00:21:54.100 I would, you would never catch me, like, 606 00:21:54.100 --> 00:21:57.600 in a VIP booth with some chick with 607 00:21:57.600 --> 00:21:59.240 my arm around her, or like her holding 608 00:21:59.240 --> 00:22:01.020 my bicep or something. Like, it's just not, 609 00:22:01.020 --> 00:22:02.740 it's not going to happen at this point 610 00:22:02.740 --> 00:22:04.480 in my life. And Jensen probably knows that 611 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:06.040 too, which makes me think that this is 612 00:22:06.040 --> 00:22:07.360 more of an open secret as far as 613 00:22:07.360 --> 00:22:10.160 a relationship than anything else. But the hook, 614 00:22:10.160 --> 00:22:13.320 the hook here is not the girl, okay? 615 00:22:13.320 --> 00:22:15.880 It's my opinion that NVIDIA is pushing the 616 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:17.980 relationship and the damage to his quote unquote 617 00:22:17.980 --> 00:22:20.060 marriage to the front here, because the problem 618 00:22:20.060 --> 00:22:22.340 is actually in the. background and the problem 619 00:22:22.340 --> 00:22:27.660 is that in my opinion, Nvidia and Jensen 620 00:22:27.660 --> 00:22:30.140 don't know what the future of AI buildout 621 00:22:30.140 --> 00:22:32.280 in the US is going to be anymore. 622 00:22:32.280 --> 00:22:34.380 And so over the last few years, he 623 00:22:34.380 --> 00:22:38.940 sold through this, through this relationship, about 600 624 00:22:38.940 --> 00:22:43.240 ,000 chips to Beijing and they're sitting in 625 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:45.460 Hong Kong right now. This is according to 626 00:22:45.460 --> 00:22:48.180 the New York Times. So to me, what 627 00:22:48.180 --> 00:22:49.700 it looks like is this guy wants an 628 00:22:49.700 --> 00:22:51.560 option to go over to that side of 629 00:22:51.560 --> 00:22:53.800 the pond if he needs it. And he's 630 00:22:53.800 --> 00:22:54.860 not talking about it at all. In their 631 00:22:54.860 --> 00:22:57.220 latest quarter, you know, they booked like 100 632 00:22:57.220 --> 00:22:59.560 billion or 110 billion in revs, zero from 633 00:22:59.560 --> 00:23:02.740 China, nothing from China data centers. So he's 634 00:23:02.740 --> 00:23:04.980 not doing it yet, but the fact that 635 00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:07.340 matter is they're already there. And you don't 636 00:23:07.340 --> 00:23:09.380 want to have to export, much like we 637 00:23:09.380 --> 00:23:10.220 talk about, you don't want to have to 638 00:23:10.220 --> 00:23:11.960 flee your country when the government, like by 639 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:13.300 the time the government wants you to stay 640 00:23:13.300 --> 00:23:14.840 or government falls, it'll be a lot harder 641 00:23:14.840 --> 00:23:16.400 to go. You want to go before that. 642 00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:17.720 It's hard for me to imagine that this 643 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:18.880 guy's not thinking at least a little bit 644 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:20.960 the same way. I don't, I'm looking at 645 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:22.400 the story and I'm looking at the pictures 646 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:24.240 and, you know, there's a couple guys on 647 00:23:24.240 --> 00:23:25.880 Twitter. I don't have the tweets handy about 648 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:27.320 just reading sort of this morning and last 649 00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:29.460 night. People have been saying this girl was 650 00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:32.040 a big problem for Jensen for a year, 651 00:23:32.040 --> 00:23:33.720 more than a year in some cases. Well, 652 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:35.120 Joey, I got to jump in there because 653 00:23:35.120 --> 00:23:36.040 I want to actually get your take on 654 00:23:36.040 --> 00:23:37.480 this as well, too. Because I think the 655 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:39.340 thing that we're underestimating, because look, I'm a 656 00:23:39.340 --> 00:23:40.660 good looking dude. You're a good looking dude. 657 00:23:40.660 --> 00:23:42.280 Walker's a good looking dude. And Brandon is 658 00:23:42.280 --> 00:23:43.740 a very good looking dude. We're the most 659 00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:45.640 handsome podcast in the Bitcoin space by far, 660 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:47.620 not even close. Many people are saying this. 661 00:23:47.620 --> 00:23:49.260 Many people are saying. This is just the 662 00:23:49.260 --> 00:23:51.320 comments that we gave, the fan mail. He 663 00:23:51.320 --> 00:23:53.460 was having an affair with one of his, 664 00:23:53.460 --> 00:23:55.300 like, other, like, one of the staff in 665 00:23:55.300 --> 00:23:57.220 the company and stuff. You see that other 666 00:23:57.220 --> 00:23:59.800 girl? Speaking of not bullets, like, right? The 667 00:23:59.800 --> 00:24:02.100 other girl looks like, they, them, Shapiro. And 668 00:24:02.100 --> 00:24:04.440 it's like, I realize that he looked line 669 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.640 is no gem, but come on, man, come 670 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:08.520 on. Like, is it that bad out there? 671

00:24:08.520 --> 00:24:11.700 Don't underestimate what I say. It's like your, 672 00:24:11.700 --> 00:24:15.020 your mid -curve males that were maybe not 673 00:24:15.020 --> 00:24:16.700 so great in their youth that have found 674 00:24:16.700 --> 00:24:18.780 some sort of success in adulthood. Love that 675 00:24:18.780 --> 00:24:21.820 take. Don't underestimate the stupid shit that they 676 00:24:21.820 --> 00:24:23.280 will do because they felt like they missed 677 00:24:23.280 --> 00:24:24.660 out on it when they were younger. You 678 00:24:24.660 --> 00:24:26.740 never been in the crucible. You don't know 679 00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:28.160 what it's like. If you haven't been in 680 00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:29.400 the crucible by the time you turn 40 681 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:30.960 or something, if you don't know, you're going 682 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:31.880 to find out the hard way. I think 683 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:34.200 you're probably right about that. I absolutely things 684 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.320 up, Brandon. Yeah, I mean, again, I want 685 00:24:36.320 --> 00:24:39.660 to tangentially related, but the BBB, this is 686 00:24:39.660 --> 00:24:41.240 my, again, I've talked about this before about 687 00:24:41.240 --> 00:24:43.620 Jessica's Italian uncle. This is how business works 688 00:24:43.620 --> 00:24:47.060 and politics, you know, bullshit, bribery, blackmail. You 689 00:24:47.060 --> 00:24:48.480 know, so you got to remember BBB. This 690 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:50.980 is this is how life works. And again, 691 00:24:50.980 --> 00:24:52.380 that's a good point by you guys. I 692 00:24:52.380 --> 00:24:53.920 forget who just said that, but, you know, 693 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.260 could Jensen, you know, want to be, you 694 00:24:57.260 --> 00:24:59.920 know, diversifying a little bit? And, you know, 695 00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:01.380 just like, oh, yep, you caught me, you 696 00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:03.280 know, whatever. And that's the way, again, you 697 00:25:03.280 --> 00:25:04.460 got to focus on what you can control 698 00:25:04.460 --> 00:25:05.540 at the end of the day, because this 699 00:25:05.540 --> 00:25:07.700 is, a lot of it is theater. And 700 00:25:07.700 --> 00:25:09.540 it's the K -Faib, right? You're coming back 701 00:25:09.540 --> 00:25:10.680 to K -Faid boys and girls, you know, 702 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.040 here it is. And so it could be 703 00:25:12.040 --> 00:25:15.300 that, too. My question to the chat and 704 00:25:15.300 --> 00:25:16.720 to you guys here in the panel, too, 705 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:18.720 is what does, you know, you always think 706 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.200 of like does Bitcoin, you know, fix this 707 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:24.600 at some point where people, the espionage, the 708 00:25:24.600 --> 00:25:26.420 spying and all this, does it really, because 709 00:25:26.420 --> 00:25:27.940 again, a lot of Bitcoiners we say, well, 710 00:25:27.940 --> 00:25:29.440 Bitcoin will fix all these things because as 711 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:30.900 everyone grows wealthier, like, yours not going to 712 00:25:30.900 --> 00:25:32.000 be a need to do this. Like, you 713 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:33.700 won't need to, but at the same time, 714 00:25:33.700 --> 00:25:34.820 you can just turn around and say, well, 715 00:25:34.820 --> 00:25:36.900 Bitcoin becomes infinitely more valuable. People are going 716 00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:38.640 to be doing it even more, right? So 717 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:39.740 you could have people fighting for more. We 718 00:25:39.740 --> 00:25:41.080 talk about the wrench attacks here in France 719 00:25:41.080 --> 00:25:42.840 and stuff like that. But, you know, what 720 00:25:42.840 --> 00:25:44.560 are your guys quick thoughts on, or, you 721 00:25:44.560 --> 00:25:45.680 know, one or two of you, just like 722 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.720 the inflection point where things do subside. When 723 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.100 we do cross that bridge, is there a 724 00:25:50.100 --> 00:25:52.800 point an inflection point where people, the tension 725 00:25:52.800 --> 00:25:56.200 and noise and stress, just across society now 726 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.500 subsides because Bitcoin has taken over to that 727 00:25:58.500 --> 00:26:00.300 point. That's something I've thought about over time 728 00:26:00.300 --> 00:26:01.380 a bit. I don't have a great answer 729 00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:03.020 for it. I don't know when that happens, 730 00:26:03.020 --> 00:26:04.880 but maybe you guys have a good thought 731 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:06.620 on it. Well, I'll even just jump into. 732 00:26:06.620 --> 00:26:07.720 The idea of like, when does Bitcoin kind 733 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:09.380 of fix some of this crap, because they 734 00:26:09.380 --> 00:26:10.740 ultimately believe that it does, which is a 735 00:26:10.740 --> 00:26:12.180 long conversation, but we'll get into it later. 736 00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:13.460 But I think part of it goes back 737 00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:14.440 through. There's so many things that have been 738 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.320 corrupted, including relationships, including marriage, including raising children. 739 00:26:17.320 --> 00:26:18.960 I think Bitcoin helps with all of those 740 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:20.920 things. Like, I hate that we have to 741 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:22.660 go back and learn some of the lessons 742 00:26:22.660 --> 00:26:24.160 of, like, why we did things way to 743 00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:25.540 do, why there was value in some traditional 744 00:26:25.540 --> 00:26:27.160 ways. But I think that it will get 745 00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.040 there. But we're not in the next decade. 746 00:26:30.040 --> 00:26:31.360 It's going to be a couple generations. It's 747 00:26:31.360 --> 00:26:33.100 probably going to be our kids having healthier 748 00:26:33.100 --> 00:26:35.140 relationships and healthier marriages down the road where 749

00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:36.380 you start to see this crap fall to 750 00:26:36.380 --> 00:26:38.160 the wayside. And people get, like hung to 751 00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:39.160 dry when they kind of go out of 752 00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:40.080 line. But I don't know, Walker, are any 753 00:26:40.080 --> 00:26:42.140 thoughts kind of on Bitcoin? Getting away from 754 00:26:42.140 --> 00:26:44.560 the CEOs having sex with Chinese spies problem. 755 00:26:44.560 --> 00:26:46.940 Yeah, no, Bitcoin doesn't fix this, man. Bitcoin 756 00:26:46.940 --> 00:26:48.920 fixes a lot of things. Bitcoin fixes a 757 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:50.460 lot of things that does not fix you. 758 00:26:50.460 --> 00:26:52.160 It does not make you better. Only you 759 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:53.960 can do that. And like that goes for 760 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:55.580 everyone out there. So Bitcoin does not fix 761 00:26:55.580 --> 00:26:57.520 human nature. I think a lot of people 762 00:26:57.520 --> 00:26:58.920 believe that it's some sort of a silver 763 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:02.140 bullet. It just will automatically make everything better. 764 00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:03.780 It doesn't. I think that makes you better 765 00:27:03.780 --> 00:27:06.040 is wanting to be better, striving to be 766 00:27:06.040 --> 00:27:07.880 better. That's what makes you better. Now, as 767 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:09.620 a result of going down the Bitcoin rabbit 768 00:27:09.620 --> 00:27:11.680 hole, certain people may find that they've made 769 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.180 changes to their lives that have been hugely 770 00:27:13.180 --> 00:27:15.860 beneficial. That's not Bitcoin making you better, though. 771 00:27:15.860 --> 00:27:17.860 That's you. realizing that there's more out there 772 00:27:17.860 --> 00:27:19.380 that you do not know and do not 773 00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:21.300 understand and that you need to, that you 774 00:27:21.300 --> 00:27:22.640 need to engage in that act of self 775 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.700 -improvement. That is how Bitcoin kind of indirectly 776 00:27:26.700 --> 00:27:28.600 can make you better. But I've said it, 777 00:27:28.600 --> 00:27:29.900 I've said it before. I'll say it again, 778 00:27:29.900 --> 00:27:31.620 you know, Bitcoin fixes a lot of things. 779 00:27:31.620 --> 00:27:35.040 It does not fix you. No, there it. 780 00:27:35.040 --> 00:27:36.840 Love those many rants. Joey, do you want 781 00:27:36.840 --> 00:27:37.680 to get your take and I also just 782 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:38.660 want to share this as well, too, just 783 00:27:38.660 --> 00:27:39.940 to round that off because we had, you 784 00:27:39.940 --> 00:27:41.040 showed me this before the show in terms 785 00:27:41.040 --> 00:27:42.260 of other things that might be going on 786 00:27:42.260 --> 00:27:44.580 with Jensen. Breaking the U .S. Commerce Department 787 00:27:44.580 --> 00:27:47.720 was approving sales. of Navidia chips to companies 788 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:50.360

in China, which either did not exist, were 789 00:27:50.360 --> 00:27:53.100 on the sanctions list and or had ties 790 00:27:53.100 --> 00:27:55.000 to the China military. So just want to 791 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:56.160 make sure we rounded that out and then 792 00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:58.380 Joey, your thoughts. Every company in China has 793 00:27:58.380 --> 00:28:00.180 ties to the Chinese military. That's the default. 794 00:28:00.180 --> 00:28:01.260 Yeah, they do. I think that's kind of 795 00:28:01.260 --> 00:28:04.620 a given. So forget that data point. That's 796 00:28:04.620 --> 00:28:06.300 every company. The interesting thing is that mega 797 00:28:06.300 --> 00:28:08.860 speed, so the Commerce Department keeps a blacklist, 798 00:28:08.860 --> 00:28:10.920 basically. So companies that, and maybe it's a 799 00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:12.180 white list, a better example, because there's probably 800 00:28:12.180 --> 00:28:14.060 way more companies on the blacklist and the 801 00:28:14.060 --> 00:28:16.340 other way around. the idea that these guys 802 00:28:16.340 --> 00:28:19.180 are able to discern who in China doesn't 803 00:28:19.180 --> 00:28:22.020 have government ties is almost laughable. And there's 804 00:28:22.020 --> 00:28:23.520 a comment, the top comment under there is 805 00:28:23.520 --> 00:28:26.160 a great reply. Like, does the government do 806 00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:28.620 anything right when the chips are down, really? 807 00:28:28.620 --> 00:28:30.940 You know, no pun intended here. But it's 808 00:28:30.940 --> 00:28:34.360 another example of just people trying to finesse 809 00:28:34.360 --> 00:28:38.040 ways to maximize to maximize profit at the 810 00:28:38.040 --> 00:28:40.100 cost of, in this case, safety and maybe 811 00:28:40.100 --> 00:28:42.580 also trade secrets. And the interesting thing is 812 00:28:42.580 --> 00:28:45.900 that there's, it's not. not in that tweet, 813 00:28:45.900 --> 00:28:47.020 but I did see it somewhere else. I 814 00:28:47.020 --> 00:28:49.600 can't remember where now, that agencies other than 815 00:28:49.600 --> 00:28:53.480 commerce were pushing to whitelist Megaspeed, which is 816 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.980 the woman's company. Her affiliation is with Megaspeed. 817 00:28:56.980 --> 00:28:59.320 So the question becomes, like, who knew about 818 00:28:59.320 --> 00:29:00.680 this? If you, if you look at some 819 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.000 of the news reporting, you got Trump being 820 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.940 briefed a year ago, Rubio memos circulating about 821 00:29:05.940 --> 00:29:09.220 eight or nine months ago, a couple of 822 00:29:09.220 --> 00:29:10.780 three letters talking to the White House and 823 00:29:10.780 --> 00:29:11.720 saying, you got to keep an eye on 824 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.520 this and this guy specifically talking about Chenson. 825 00:29:14.520 --> 00:29:15.960 I don't know what to make of this. 826 00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.620 And, again, man, it feels to me like 827 00:29:19.620 --> 00:29:22.440 this is a smokescreen for something else. Because 828 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.480 all these people involved are too smart. Jensen's 829 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:25.980 too smart. The White House has guys who 830 00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:27.440 are way ahead of the curve. It's not 831 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.560 the Biden administration, okay? Corinne Jean -Pierre is 832 00:29:30.560 --> 00:29:34.780 not the press secretary anymore. Dana White's coming. 833 00:29:34.780 --> 00:29:36.600 Oh, yeah, we'll talk about that one. But 834 00:29:36.600 --> 00:29:38.440 anyway, the point is that, like, there's too 835 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:39.980 much happening here for me to think that 836 00:29:39.980 --> 00:29:43.720 it's just this girl, again, like, you know, 837 00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.320 shopping at Vicki's Secret. and coaxing something out 838 00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:48.380 of Jensen Long. I don't believe that that's 839 00:29:48.380 --> 00:29:50.480 the case. There's too many other people involved 840 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.640 here for too long. Meanwhile, Nvidia, you know, 841 00:29:54.640 --> 00:29:56.320 it's one thing to be a top company. 842 00:29:56.320 --> 00:29:57.960 It's nothing entirely. I think the number I 843 00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:00.400 saw was that every S &P, like every 844 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:02.580 S &P index fund dollar has somewhere between 845 00:30:02.580 --> 00:30:04.880 seven and nine cents from Vindia in it. 846 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.160 So you're talking about like enormous, you're talking 847 00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.760 retirement, teachers pensions, like, you name it, right? 848 00:30:10.760 --> 00:30:13.240 That's to say nothing of, you know, that 849 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:14.400 this is, by the way, This is to 850 00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:18.300 say nothing of the U .S. government deciding 851 00:30:18.300 --> 00:30:22.060 to take a huge stake in Intel about 852 00:30:22.060 --> 00:30:24.320 six months ago. Did they know this was 853 00:30:24.320 --> 00:30:27.140 coming? Like, AMD is way up today. I 854 00:30:27.140 --> 00:30:28.700 didn't look at Intel's share price, but what 855 00:30:28.700 --> 00:30:30.440 is that, what is that stock doing now? 856 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:31.920 Like, how does that, is this a, is 857 00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:35.240 this another intertwined, like, oh, we can't trust 858 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.180 Nvidia anymore. We got to do American stuff. 859 00:30:37.180 --> 00:30:39.460 We got to build American. Like, Intel's the, 860 00:30:39.460 --> 00:30:41.240 I don't know, but fuck, you can't rule 861 00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:42.380 it out, which is, I think, the whole 862 00:30:42.380 --> 00:30:44.720 point. Show me. would like to see, I 863 00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:45.700 bet we're going to find out in their 864 00:30:45.700 --> 00:30:48.240 financial disclosures, but how many U .S. lawmakers 865 00:30:48.240

--> 00:30:52.120 out of nowhere against our shorted, shorted in 866 00:30:52.120 --> 00:30:57.020 the last few weeks? Because I guarantee the 867 00:30:57.020 --> 00:30:59.680 number is not zero. I totally, totally agree. 868 00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:01.740 Anyone who would, up until now, anyone who 869 00:31:01.740 --> 00:31:03.020 would have shorted in video, you would be 870 00:31:03.020 --> 00:31:06.520 like, yeah, okay, like, you fucking idiot, like, 871 00:31:06.520 --> 00:31:08.700 no, you know, terrible trade. So if you 872 00:31:08.700 --> 00:31:12.460 see that, if you see that happen, again, 873 00:31:12.460 --> 00:31:14.680 and not that anyone cares, because, The one 874 00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:17.380 thing that has bipartisan agreement is that congressional 875 00:31:17.380 --> 00:31:19.460 insiders should be able to insider trade as 876 00:31:19.460 --> 00:31:21.100 much as they want. But that's going to 877 00:31:21.100 --> 00:31:22.660 be a very interesting data point. It's going 878 00:31:22.660 --> 00:31:23.920 to let you know exactly who knew that 879 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:25.720 this was coming. But again, not that anyone 880 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:27.720 cares or we'll do anything because the state 881 00:31:27.720 --> 00:31:30.900 is just a bloated fucking kleptocratic beast made 882 00:31:30.900 --> 00:31:33.600 up of fucking psychopaths. But apparently we just 883 00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:35.200 have to bend over and take it, but 884 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:38.280 not on this goddamn podcast. How dare you? 885 00:31:38.280 --> 00:31:39.400 Not here. Not here. You go after Paul 886 00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:42.200 Pelosi's investing at you. Get out of time. 887 00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:47.280 How dare you. Paul. He's great. Well, that's 888 00:31:47.280 --> 00:31:48.840 the most perfect place that's been caught with 889 00:31:48.840 --> 00:31:50.460 our pants down, wielding a hammer in the 890 00:31:50.460 --> 00:31:51.840 middle of the night. I mean, come on. 891 00:31:51.840 --> 00:31:53.360 I got a shed to build. It was 892 00:31:53.360 --> 00:31:56.020 very windy up here. You saw Ben's post. 893 00:31:56.020 --> 00:31:57.620 I think he had some on maybe Twitter. 894 00:31:57.620 --> 00:31:58.500 It was on task grab. I thought this 895 00:31:58.500 --> 00:32:01.180 guy on task rabbit. All right. Okay. That's 896 00:32:01.180 --> 00:32:02.940 the perfect place we take a brief message 897 00:32:02.940 --> 00:32:04.400 for show sponsors. On the other side of 898 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:05.100 the break, we're going to talk a little 899 00:32:05.100 --> 00:32:06.340 bit more about the AI space and some 900 00:32:06.340 --> 00:32:07.660 short selling that's been going on. And we're 901 00:32:07.660 --> 00:32:09.140 going to catch up with some vulnerabilities and 902 00:32:09.140 --> 00:32:11.420 a certain CFO left to certain companies. So 903 00:32:11.420 --> 00:32:13.120 don't go anywhere. Hit that light button. 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Pete 973 00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.280 Sessions sold between 15 and 50 ,000. thousand 974 00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.780 on October 2nd and daniel muser uh only 975 00:34:45.780 --> 00:34:47.300 up to about 15 000 so a little 976 00:34:47.300 --> 00:34:48.520 bit of selling going in but nothing that 977 00:34:48.520 --> 00:34:50.700 would cause a lorne for me anyways continuing 978 00:34:50.700 --> 00:34:53.140 here to see short positions in those disclosures 979 00:34:53.140 --> 00:34:55.060 or no so i couldn't find any but 980 00:34:55.060 --> 00:34:56.360 i'm not clear if it's because it's not 981 00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.460 disclosed um or if it's just not available 982 00:34:59.460 --> 00:35:00.460 right now that i could pull up in 983 00:35:00.460 --> 00:35:03.480 between the the sponsor break there but continuing 984 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:06.980 i'm curious about right the options trading unlimited 985 00:35:06.980 --> 00:35:09.160 upside there yeah well it might be in 986 00:35:09.160 --> 00:35:10.700 the clear on that one but Things are 987 00:35:10.700 --> 00:35:12.540 not looking so good for the AI space. 988 00:35:12.540 --> 00:35:14.400 As we have just in, Taiwan imposes sweeping 989 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.980 short selling restrictions starting Monday after its stock 990 00:35:16.980 --> 00:35:20.560 markets suffered the worst weekly decline since 2001. 991 00:35:20.560 --> 00:35:23.980 Not really great for T .M .C. TSM. 992 00:35:23.980 --> 00:35:26.040 In terms of where we have the bulk 993 00:35:26.040 --> 00:35:27.440 of the bulk of the chips being manufactured 994 00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.880 for the AI play. Continuing on that, well, 995 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:33.320 we have Asia's bailout brigade. Taiwan curb shorts, 996 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.400 ready's 15 billion fund in Seoul wave margin 997 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:40.140 calls to stop the AI route. So again, 998 00:35:40.140 --> 00:35:41.360 things are looking a little bit worse there, 999 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.620 again, a little bit bubbly, but also on 1000 00:35:42.620 --> 00:35:43.580 top of that, while they threw in there, 1001 00:35:43.580 --> 00:35:45.000 we had the Binance hack from not that 1002 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:46.320 long ago, and it turns out that the 1003 00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.400 Binance CFO apparently has resigned. So another interesting 1004 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:52.300 kind of, apparently I was finding that there 1005 00:35:52.300 --> 00:35:53.940 was some information they had planned to resign 1006 00:35:53.940 --> 00:35:55.420 for a while, but again, a little suspicious 1007 00:35:55.420 --> 00:35:59.320 exit. So Taiwan, stopping the shorts, Binance CFO. 1008 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:00.660 Brandon, what are your thoughts? I love this 1009 00:36:00.660 --> 00:36:02.800 first comment. Remember that time, Elon and Donald 1010 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:06.300 audited Fort Knox? That was, that actually happened, 1011 00:36:06.300 --> 00:36:08.480 though. We did audit for Knox because, Rand 1012 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.160 Paul went and told us that we're good 1013 00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:12.600 guys, trust me, bro. So we're good there. 1014 00:36:12.600 --> 00:36:15.020 Totally fine. It's there. Nothing to see. Yeah, 1015 00:36:15.020 --> 00:36:17.820 no, it's, it's, to me, the thing that 1016 00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:20.840 the biggest worry to me is, like, how 1017 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.080 many, you know, we've come on here now 1018 00:36:22.080 -->

00:36:23.640 for, what, six, seven, eight months or whatever, 1019 00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:27.100 doing this show, and - Oh, oh, surprise. 1020 00:36:27.100 --> 00:36:30.180 Sorry, guys, very late. Look at this. Well, 1021 00:36:30.180 --> 00:36:31.300 I'll go really quick, and we can get 1022 00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:34.020 Joe's opinion on this. Because my biggest fear 1023 00:36:34.020 --> 00:36:36.880 with all this is the, and we just 1024 00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:37.940 talked about in the last, in the first, 1025 00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:39.940 actually, which was the Howard Dean, and then 1026 00:36:39.940 --> 00:36:41.680 10 years later, 12 years later, Donald Trump, 1027 00:36:41.680 --> 00:36:44.900 and how quick society changed. And so you 1028 00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:47.140 have this world meaning where I'm going with 1029 00:36:47.140 --> 00:36:49.260 this, is that people are immune to a 1030 00:36:49.260 --> 00:36:51.980 lot of this, like these things happening, like 1031 00:36:51.980 --> 00:36:54.160 short -circuiting things. And it feels like smoke 1032 00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:55.600 screen, like when you guys said earlier, like 1033 00:36:55.600 --> 00:36:57.820 what's not being seen, what people aren't paying 1034 00:36:57.820 --> 00:36:59.720 attention to is always the thing that Spidey 1035 00:36:59.720 --> 00:37:00.760 Sense goes up. And it's like, okay, what 1036 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.260 are they trying to get us not to 1037 00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:04.240 pay attention to? Because you have all these 1038 00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:06.680 things, whether it's a politician saying something crazy, 1039 00:37:06.680 --> 00:37:07.940 how many times you're going to see some 1040 00:37:07.940 --> 00:37:10.360 politician insider trading or how many times we're 1041 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.180 going to see a breaker, a circuit breaker 1042 00:37:12.180 --> 00:37:14.560 going off in a trading market or whatever. 1043 00:37:14.560 --> 00:37:15.300 And it used to be like a big 1044 00:37:15.300 --> 00:37:16.820 deal. It was like, it happened once. It 1045 00:37:16.820 --> 00:37:18.100 was twice, but they're like, well, they're up 1046 00:37:18.100 --> 00:37:19.840 in arms. But now it's like, we're just 1047 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:21.060 getting to the point where like, I do 1048 00:37:21.060 --> 00:37:23.540 it myself. I'm like, who gives an ass? 1049 00:37:23.540 --> 00:37:25.520 Like, who, it's like, whatever, you know, like, 1050 00:37:25.520 --> 00:37:27.520 one is, and it's like at some point, 1051 00:37:27.520 --> 00:37:29.900 the Robert Kiyosaki's, the hairy dense, the gym 1052 00:37:29.900 --> 00:37:31.820 records, like these guys have been saying the 1053 00:37:31.820 --> 00:37:34.000 roof, the sky is falling for 20 years, 1054 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.900 they're going to be right. At some point, 1055 00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:38.360 the whole thing just comes down. And we're 1056 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:40.700 looking at Mad Max, question mark. I don't 1057 00:37:40.700 --> 00:37:42.480 know. But to me, the scary part is 1058 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:45.560 just the desensitization of breaking people's will. And 1059 00:37:45.560 --> 00:37:46.940 I think this goes back into the global 1060 00:37:46.940 --> 00:37:48.840 culture of what the zeitgeist of what we've 1061 00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:49.780 been talking about in this show, what this 1062 00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:52.280 show is about, which is the breaking of 1063 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.680 the Westerners mind, the breaking of the Western 1064 00:37:54.680 --> 00:37:56.600 man's back. And just like, he doesn't care 1065 00:37:56.600 --> 00:37:58.840 anymore. He's so blackpilled and dumbered. He doesn't 1066 00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:00.960 care. He's heard endless, you know, terrible things 1067 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:02.860 going on. He can't afford anything. So he 1068 00:38:02.860 --> 00:38:04.400 just doesn't care. He's like, you know what? 1069 00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:05.840 I don't care. The NFL is on. I've 1070 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.920 got my 17 -Elegged parlay. Good to go. 1071 00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.960 Let it rip, boys. Don't care. I absolutely 1072 00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:13.400 love it. Okay, I got to get Mr. 1073 00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.500 Consorti's take on all this. Before that, though, 1074 00:38:15.500 --> 00:38:17.080 let me go ahead and just pull up 1075 00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:19.360 this wonderful. Let me find it here. There 1076 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.880 we go. This beautiful clip that he just 1077 00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:23.700 sent me as well to. And if nothing 1078 00:38:23.700 --> 00:38:25.420 else, if nothing else, at least I can 1079 00:38:25.420 --> 00:38:27.480 say for certain that Trump's probably got a 1080 00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:28.720 back chat, just like we got a back 1081 00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:30.620 chat with Jensen. He's one of the boys 1082 00:38:30.620 --> 00:38:32.320 and he's covering for his guys. Let's go 1083 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.680 ahead and have it. Mr. President. I'm sticking 1084 00:38:34.680 --> 00:38:36.840 with Jensen when you went to China earlier 1085 00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:38.780 this year in May, Did you know about 1086 00:38:38.780 --> 00:38:42.160 these alleged ties with a tiny spy then? 1087 00:38:42.160 --> 00:38:44.240 No, I didn't hear about it then. But 1088 00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:47.000 a lot of people have heard about it, 1089 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.300 and Jensen totally denies that. He had, I 1090 00:38:49.300 --> 00:38:50.740 asked him today, because I did speak to 1091 00:38:50.740 --> 00:38:52.240 him today, just to see if he's feeling 1092 00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:54.220 all right, how you doing. And I asked 1093 00:38:54.220 --> 00:38:57.360 him about that. And he said he had 1094 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.900 absolutely no idea that the person in question 1095 00:39:00.900 --> 00:39:03.740 was a spy. I asked him that question.

1096 00:39:03.740 --> 00:39:04.960 Did you have any idea that she was 1097 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:06.840 a spy? He said, I had no idea 1098 00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:08.360 that she was a spy. And I really 1099 00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.180 believe him. I thought she was just a 1100 00:39:11.180 --> 00:39:14.540 hooker. That's great. The one thing I'll say 1101 00:39:14.540 --> 00:39:16.040 really quick for, you know, we get to 1102 00:39:16.040 --> 00:39:18.020 Joe jump in here, is that, man, is 1103 00:39:18.020 --> 00:39:19.820 it refreshing, though, to just see the guy 1104 00:39:19.820 --> 00:39:21.540 sit up there and just take questions. Again, 1105 00:39:21.540 --> 00:39:22.840 we go back to, like him just for 1106 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:24.800 hours and said there, a Rubio. It's like, 1107 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:25.860 where the hell? I mean, we haven't seen 1108 00:39:25.860 --> 00:39:27.580 this much, you know, in 20 plus years 1109 00:39:27.580 --> 00:39:29.740 combined. So anyway, it's good to see people 1110 00:39:29.740 --> 00:39:31.760 because you want to grill people. And it's 1111 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.380 great. So anyway, small note. I love it. 1112 00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:38.040 Consorti. Yeah, so I think it's refreshing. seeing 1113 00:39:38.040 --> 00:39:40.600 Trump or any president take questions for that 1114 00:39:40.600 --> 00:39:42.380 matter. You know, I think the job of 1115 00:39:42.380 --> 00:39:44.280 the press secretary is just supposed to be 1116 00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.360 like a, throw some catty woman up there 1117 00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:48.160 to yell at the press and like get 1118 00:39:48.160 --> 00:39:50.700 good gotcha moments for Facebook and then leave. 1119 00:39:50.700 --> 00:39:52.300 So it's refreshing to have the president himself 1120 00:39:52.300 --> 00:39:53.520 up there. I think that should be the 1121 00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:55.980 case going forward when he has the time. 1122 00:39:55.980 --> 00:39:59.760 As far as just completely crazy and same 1123 00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.700 series of events, obviously, nobody's condoning infidelity. It's 1124 00:40:03.700 --> 00:40:07.660 absolutely despicable. You know, it is just a. 1125 00:40:07.660 --> 00:40:11.560 complete affront to the wonderful union that is 1126 00:40:11.560 --> 00:40:16.060 marriage. But honest to goodness, this is incredible, 1127 00:40:16.060 --> 00:40:18.980 right? The fact that if anybody was selling 1128 00:40:18.980 --> 00:40:20.920 secrets to another country knowingly, I figured it 1129 00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.320 would have been Dario. I think, you know, 1130 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.280 personally. Or Altman and his husband. Or Alman 1131 00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.140 and his husband, you know. Giuse and Bing 1132 00:40:29.140 --> 00:40:30.720 may have offered him like 500 of the 1133 00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:32.760 best gay guys from China or whatever or 1134 00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:34.440 to have at him or something. But, you 1135 00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:35.400 know, my thinking is that it would have 1136 00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:36.680 been either of those, like one of the 1137 00:40:36.680 --> 00:40:38.600 decelerationists were like, yeah, we should put a 1138 00:40:38.600 --> 00:40:41.120 pause on AI, guys. Come regulate me, please. 1139 00:40:41.120 --> 00:40:42.760 I didn't think it would be Jensen. So, 1140 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:44.680 you know, I tend to think that he 1141 00:40:44.680 --> 00:40:47.880 didn't know, but who knows, right? Ultimately, we 1142 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:49.800 have no idea. We can only speculate. But 1143 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.440 wow, the plot thickens. And Anthropics IPO is 1144 00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:53.880 next week as well. It's expected to start 1145 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:55.680 trading next Thursday or five. But they're going 1146 00:40:55.680 --> 00:40:59.200 next Thursday. Wow, really. Crazy. Yeah. So it's 1147 00:40:59.200 --> 00:41:01.960 just been a completely wild, like there are 1148 00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:04.300 long stretches of time where nothing happens, but 1149 00:41:04.300 --> 00:41:05.980 we've got the midterms, we've got this thing 1150 00:41:05.980 --> 00:41:08.080 with Jensen, we've got, you know, Bitcoin, crashing 1151 00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:09.360 on the news of that. We've got Trump 1152 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:10.680 saying, we're going to give amnesty to the 1153 00:41:10.680 --> 00:41:12.100 illegal immigrants. And now he's going on saying 1154 00:41:12.100 --> 00:41:13.880 we have no amnesty. Dana White was just 1155 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:17.040 at the press briefing as well, taking questions. 1156 00:41:17.040 --> 00:41:18.820 It's ridiculous. It's crazy. You got to think 1157 00:41:18.820 --> 00:41:21.120 he was? Yeah, I feel like we got 1158 00:41:21.120 --> 00:41:23.500 to joke. It's a joke, but yeah. Ah, 1159 00:41:23.500 --> 00:41:25.040 is it though? It was fucking beautiful. I'll 1160 00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:26.580 pull it up because, yeah, you just threw 1161 00:41:26.580 --> 00:41:27.580 it to me in the chat and it 1162 00:41:27.580 --> 00:41:29.580 was wonderful here. So let's go ahead and 1163 00:41:29.580 --> 00:41:30.940 pull up this window. Just give me a 1164 00:41:30.940 --> 00:41:35.860 moment. There we go. Boom. Okay. So apparently 1165 00:41:35.860 --> 00:41:40.800 we have Dana White. At the podium, Joe, 1166 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:41.780 give me a little context. What was this 1167 00:41:41.780 --> 00:41:42.780 clip about? Or I'll be to go ahead 1168 00:41:42.780 --> 00:41:44.440 and play it here quick for us. Yeah, 1169 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.300 so basically, the reporter asks him, like, hey, 1170 00:41:47.300 --> 00:41:48.960 now that Stephen Miller's chief of staff, like, 1171 00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.240 have you talked to him about your decision 1172 00:41:51.240 --> 00:41:52.320 on what you want to do as far 1173 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.660 as

immigration policy is concerned? Because that's an 1174 00:41:54.660 --> 00:41:56.840 extremely leading question. Obviously, we've all seen the 1175 00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.920 60 minutes piece, and Trump says, no amnesty, 1176 00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:02.080 no amnesty. So, I mean, thankfully, we got 1177 00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:03.520 Stephen Miller at a pretty good time, so 1178 00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:05.120 it seems. And it doesn't seem like we're 1179 00:42:05.120 --> 00:42:07.220 going to get sort of Reagan -esque amnesty, 1180 00:42:07.220 --> 00:42:09.760 which, of course, turned notoriously turned California blue 1181 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:11.740 forever back in the 80s. A lot of 1182 00:42:11.740 --> 00:42:13.300 people are speculating that would happen to Texas, 1183 00:42:13.300 --> 00:42:14.580 but here's Trump saying that he won't do 1184 00:42:14.580 --> 00:42:17.120 it. Oh, that's fantastic to see. And let 1185 00:42:17.120 --> 00:42:20.200 me go and find it. Joe, or Joey, 1186 00:42:20.200 --> 00:42:21.900 either one of you, start laying the foundation. 1187 00:42:21.900 --> 00:42:23.540 What happened with Dana White will I go 1188 00:42:23.540 --> 00:42:24.920 and grab the post I had for later? 1189 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:26.740 Well, I mean, the people freaked out. I 1190 00:42:26.740 --> 00:42:28.060 think it was like Friday, right? I want 1191 00:42:28.060 --> 00:42:29.000 to say it was just after we finished 1192 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.320 recording. Trump said he was considering Dana White 1193 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:34.060 for press secretary, and it sounds like someone 1194 00:42:34.060 --> 00:42:35.800 actually fed him the name Dana White, and 1195 00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.560 he just assumed it was the UFC guy 1196 00:42:37.560 --> 00:42:39.480 and not this woman who works in the 1197 00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.360 administration who's been there a while. So I 1198 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.880 don't know. Listen, I'm happy with either one. 1199 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:46.220 I looked at her CV. It looks pretty 1200 00:42:46.220 --> 00:42:48.360 good. If she's a party, if she's a 1201 00:42:48.360 --> 00:42:50.120 party lady, then let's go for it. But 1202 00:42:50.120 --> 00:42:53.960 this is even funnier because if it is 1203 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.460 actually going to happen this way. I mean, 1204 00:42:57.460 --> 00:43:00.900 listen, Carolyn Levitt was probably one of the 1205 00:43:00.900 --> 00:43:04.280 better press secretaries of my like sort of 1206 00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.380 politically aware lifetime. Obama. had a few good 1207 00:43:07.380 --> 00:43:08.980 ones and he was also good himself as 1208 00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:11.360 much as it pains me to admit. But 1209 00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:13.640 Leavitt did a really good job. I would 1210 00:43:13.640 --> 00:43:17.820 say since Huckabee Sanders and Leavitt were the 1211 00:43:17.820 --> 00:43:20.740 first of Trump's administration, you know, one and

1212 00:43:20.740 --> 00:43:23.840 two, he's really struggled to find someone who 1213 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.300 is as good as his first pick. And 1214 00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:28.320 I hope he figures this out because there's 1215 00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:30.780 never been a greater need for, you know, 1216 00:43:30.780 --> 00:43:32.520 strong communication from the White House and from 1217 00:43:32.520 --> 00:43:34.840 the president's office than there is right now, 1218 00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:36.460 given the sort of like, you know, condition 1219 00:43:36.460 --> 00:43:38.680 of the, I don't want to say deteriorating 1220 00:43:38.680 --> 00:43:40.100 global order, but I think that's a fair 1221 00:43:40.100 --> 00:43:42.700 characterization, to be perfectly honest with you. And 1222 00:43:42.700 --> 00:43:45.160 the bleed out from the Republicans, like, you 1223 00:43:45.160 --> 00:43:46.400 know, Joe, you can, if you're going to 1224 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.240 go next, but I'd be curious to your 1225 00:43:48.240 --> 00:43:50.120 thoughts. I was saying last week that I 1226 00:43:50.120 --> 00:43:53.560 think the Republicans, they either are going to 1227 00:43:53.560 --> 00:43:55.860 continue losing or they're going to embrace, like, 1228 00:43:55.860 --> 00:43:58.300 some elements of the Fuentes right at some 1229 00:43:58.300 --> 00:44:00.220 point over the next two years. I don't 1230 00:44:00.220 --> 00:44:01.240 know how it's going to look, but they 1231 00:44:01.240 --> 00:44:03.420 need a good press secretary to sort of 1232 00:44:03.420 --> 00:44:06.080 weave that basket form, at least in my 1233 00:44:06.080 --> 00:44:09.040 thing. What is going on with this true 1234 00:44:09.040 --> 00:44:10.960 social post right here? I just have a 1235 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:13.040 lot of questions. Okay, okay, let me lay 1236 00:44:13.040 --> 00:44:14.300 it up for you. So let me go 1237 00:44:14.300 --> 00:44:16.100 back to that tab there. I am pleased 1238 00:44:16.100 --> 00:44:17.720 to announce that the great Dana White, a 1239 00:44:17.720 --> 00:44:19.700 violent fighter and warrior, has been offered the 1240 00:44:19.700 --> 00:44:21.860 job of press secretary of the United States. 1241 00:44:21.860 --> 00:44:23.720 I have requested that he bring with him 1242 00:44:23.720 --> 00:44:26.880 assistance, even though some are not from our 1243 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.760 country of, okay, a bunch of names there. 1244 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:31.660 We need these people to defend us against 1245 00:44:31.660 --> 00:44:33.760 the lunatic left. Dana will be press secretary. 1246 00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.380 like no other, Dana, please take the job, 1247 00:44:36.380 --> 00:44:38.820 President Trump. And then I have here from 1248 00:44:38.820 --> 00:44:41.580 the Hormuz letter, breaking. Trump may have accidentally 1249 00:44:41.580 --> 00:44:43.980 chosen the wrong Dana White for his White 1250 00:44:43.980 --> 00:44:46.160 House press

secretary offer. There is a woman 1251 00:44:46.160 --> 00:44:48.060 named Dana White, who is a former assistant 1252 00:44:48.060 --> 00:44:51.200 to the Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, 1253 00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:54.880 more commonly known as the Pentagon's chief spokesperson, 1254 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:56.920 spokesperson from April 2017 to the end of 1255 00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.600 April 2018, which, if you're wondering if they 1256 00:44:59.600 --> 00:45:01.460 share any resemblance, they do not. They do 1257 00:45:01.460 --> 00:45:05.320 not look anything alike. So it's suspected that 1258 00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:06.900 someone said, hey, we're thinking of Dana White 1259 00:45:06.900 --> 00:45:08.940 for press secretary, and Trump was just like, 1260 00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:11.020 I'm in, let's do it. This sounds great. 1261 00:45:11.020 --> 00:45:12.740 I love my boy. And threw out that 1262 00:45:12.740 --> 00:45:15.920 post. Somebody should have told him because obviously 1263 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.820 it's well known that they're boys and they 1264 00:45:17.820 --> 00:45:18.860 go all the way back to like the 1265 00:45:18.860 --> 00:45:21.280 late 90s or early 2000. That's a hilarious 1266 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.060 mistake though. I love it. I love the 1267 00:45:23.060 --> 00:45:25.160 idea. But then he actually got him. I 1268 00:45:25.160 --> 00:45:27.000 love the idea. He's like getting the truth 1269 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.960 social post out faster than the person can 1270 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.880 correct him. Like him walking down the hallway 1271 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.520 with the person he's telling to post it 1272 00:45:32.520 --> 00:45:33.900 and the other guys like running behind. I'd 1273 00:45:33.900 --> 00:45:37.080 be like, no, sir, sir, sir. No, it's 1274 00:45:37.080 --> 00:45:40.520 not the first time. He's got Dana there. 1275 00:45:40.520 --> 00:45:42.940 Really? Yeah, I've heard his name. It was 1276 00:45:42.940 --> 00:45:44.240 either two years ago or maybe he's in 1277 00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:46.780 the first administration. And so to me, it 1278 00:45:46.780 --> 00:45:48.340 was, it actually was like, I was kind 1279 00:45:48.340 --> 00:45:50.080 of, not expected, but I was like, oh, 1280 00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:51.820 okay, that kind of makes sense. And it 1281 00:45:51.820 --> 00:45:53.360 would just fits for exactly what's going on. 1282 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.340 We talked about the high tea, all this 1283 00:45:55.340 --> 00:45:57.680 stuff going on that you kind of need 1284 00:45:57.680 --> 00:45:59.860 someone to lead through this transition. It makes 1285 00:45:59.860 --> 00:46:01.220 a ton of sense to me to have 1286 00:46:01.220 --> 00:46:02.740 someone like that. He knows of events too. 1287 00:46:02.740 --> 00:46:04.420 He's a public speaker. He knows how to 1288 00:46:04.420 --> 00:46:06.180 be proud. He knows how to work in 1289 00:46:06.180 --> 00:46:08.200 audience. I think he'd be able to do 1290 00:46:08.200 --> 00:46:09.940 it just We gotta let him work blue. 1291 00:46:09.940 --> 00:46:11.680 He works blue when he does his UFC 1292 00:46:11.680 --> 00:46:13.340 pressers. So I would like to see him 1293 00:46:13.340 --> 00:46:15.300 work blue here too. If he's taking that 1294 00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:16.820 role. Well, the other, Those who don't know 1295 00:46:16.820 --> 00:46:19.120 what working blue means, Joey, can you clarify? 1296 00:46:19.120 --> 00:46:20.320 You gotta be able to swear. You gotta 1297 00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:21.380 be able to swear. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the 1298 00:46:21.380 --> 00:46:23.220 other crazy part two is like, again, we 1299 00:46:23.220 --> 00:46:25.060 had Joe Biden literally didn't show up for 1300 00:46:25.060 --> 00:46:26.940 like a month straight. No one saw him. 1301 00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:28.440 He's falling up and downstairs. Like, no one 1302 00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.140 questioned that, right? Like, oh, you know, he's 1303 00:46:30.140 --> 00:46:32.120 fine. He's never been better. You know, like 1304 00:46:32.120 --> 00:46:33.340 all the ridiculous. is we go back and 1305 00:46:33.340 --> 00:46:35.860 watch montages of people like saying like, he 1306 00:46:35.860 --> 00:46:37.380 really kicks our ass mentally when we go 1307 00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:39.060 talk to him, when we can find him, 1308 00:46:39.060 --> 00:46:40.420 you know, but then like Donald Trump does 1309 00:46:40.420 --> 00:46:41.740 this and they're like, he might have picked 1310 00:46:41.740 --> 00:46:43.620 the wrong one and people believe it. They 1311 00:46:43.620 --> 00:46:45.080 write it and they're like, oh, he might 1312 00:46:45.080 --> 00:46:47.340 have, he might have picked it. That, it's 1313 00:46:47.340 --> 00:46:48.500 just like, it goes back to the clown 1314 00:46:48.500 --> 00:46:50.480 world part of the nature wearing one in 1315 00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:51.980 the first segment of like, people can't believe 1316 00:46:51.980 --> 00:46:53.600 anything and there's some black pill. They'll just 1317 00:46:53.600 --> 00:46:55.220 like eat it up. It's like, oh, Joe 1318 00:46:55.220 --> 00:46:57.240 Biden is mentally there. And then, oh, yeah, 1319 00:46:57.240 --> 00:46:59.900 Donald Trump picked the wrong person. It's just, 1320 00:46:59.900 --> 00:47:02.680 whatever, call me crazy. It's an easy miss. 1321 00:47:02.680 --> 00:47:04.540 It's an easy mess. No, Joey, you have 1322 00:47:04.540 --> 00:47:06.480 thrown a question to Joe asking about the 1323 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.500 kind of Fuentes battle maybe in the future 1324 00:47:09.500 --> 00:47:13.080 there. Joe being our resident Zoomer and key 1325 00:47:13.080 --> 00:47:15.340 officer for speaking to the younger generation, I 1326 00:47:15.340 --> 00:47:16.840 would actually be curious his views. But maybe 1327 00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:18.420 Joey, you want to tee it up. And 1328 00:47:18.420 --> 00:47:19.820

then after Joe Walker, be curious, your thoughts 1329 00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:22.220 as well. Well, I just look at the, 1330 00:47:22.220 --> 00:47:25.300 there's a sort of two, obviously two groups 1331 00:47:25.300 --> 00:47:27.500 that the Republicans, I think, failed to grab 1332 00:47:27.500 --> 00:47:29.720 in the midterms. and the one that I 1333 00:47:29.720 --> 00:47:31.420 want to talk about is the young white 1334 00:47:31.420 --> 00:47:34.560 vote, male vote specifically. Yeah. They couldn't get, 1335 00:47:34.560 --> 00:47:36.420 they couldn't corral that vote a second time. 1336 00:47:36.420 --> 00:47:38.140 Not only did it turn out against them, 1337 00:47:38.140 --> 00:47:40.500 it turned out against them huge in states 1338 00:47:40.500 --> 00:47:42.560 that were red. Look at, I mean, I 1339 00:47:42.560 --> 00:47:44.680 don't have to give you the states, but 1340 00:47:44.680 --> 00:47:47.260 like you can look at now, Texas. We 1341 00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:51.480 talked about Alabama electing a trans governor, trans, 1342 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.580 whatever that was, I forget now. But like, 1343 00:47:53.580 --> 00:47:56.460 things that were basically politically unthinkable, regardless of 1344 00:47:56.460 --> 00:47:57.920 what lens you looked at them through a 1345 00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:03.680 year ago. basically all happened. And I look 1346 00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:05.900 at the way, again, like, I feel like 1347 00:48:05.900 --> 00:48:07.320 I have to couch when I talk about 1348 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:11.440 Nick. He's a racist and he's anti -Semitic 1349 00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.460 and, you know, he says things that no 1350 00:48:13.460 --> 00:48:15.180 one, in my opinion, should be saying, especially 1351 00:48:15.180 --> 00:48:16.480 not, you know, when you have that much 1352 00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:18.980 influence, but even in private. And when you 1353 00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:21.640 think about what this guy has done, you 1354 00:48:21.640 --> 00:48:24.040 know, and been through because of those views, 1355 00:48:24.040 --> 00:48:26.180 it's incredible to me that there's almost no 1356 00:48:26.180 --> 00:48:28.780 other explanation for the fact that these guys 1357 00:48:28.780 --> 00:48:31.700 all went to the left during the election, 1358 00:48:31.700 --> 00:48:33.720 except that he told him to do it. 1359 00:48:33.720 --> 00:48:35.760 And it's like, it's almost unbelievable to me 1360 00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:37.860 that the Republican Party seems unwilling to take 1361 00:48:37.860 --> 00:48:39.760 the shackles off this kid and try and 1362 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.320 bring him into the fold. Maybe you can, 1363 00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:42.620 maybe you can tame the lion, maybe you 1364 00:48:42.620 --> 00:48:44.560 can't. But what you can't afford to do 1365 00:48:44.560 --> 00:48:47.500 is alienate him and his base. You can't 1366 00:48:47.500 --> 00:48:49.020 do it. It's just not a feasible strategy 1367 00:48:49.020 --> 00:48:51.880 anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, my opinion on 1368 00:48:51.880 --> 00:48:54.800 this is a little bit interesting. So, like, 1369 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:55.920 obviously, you know, some of the things Nick 1370 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:57.800 Quintas says is pretty outrageous, particularly for a 1371 00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.900 guy who doesn't. have a wife, never had 1372 00:48:59.900 --> 00:49:01.760 a girlfriend, doesn't know any children. And it's 1373 00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:03.920 a little suspicious. A little suspicious. No, and 1374 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:04.800 so it's like, it's like, it's not, you 1375 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.700 know, for me, it's like I always lend 1376 00:49:06.700 --> 00:49:08.580 more credence to people who have clearly built 1377 00:49:08.580 --> 00:49:11.400 a life for themselves, right, that I would 1378 00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:13.660 aspire to. And for a guy like Nick, 1379 00:49:13.660 --> 00:49:15.420 he may be very shrewd, but the one 1380 00:49:15.420 --> 00:49:18.060 thing that he seriously lacks is what Charlie 1381 00:49:18.060 --> 00:49:21.420 Kirk, for example, you know, had in space. 1382 00:49:21.420 --> 00:49:23.920 That picture right up there, that's a sign 1383 00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:25.600 letter from the vice president. That right there, 1384 00:49:25.600 --> 00:49:26.800 that's a picture of Charlie Kirk. Not many 1385 00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:27.940 people know that. I don't think anybody knows 1386 00:49:27.940 --> 00:49:29.240 that at some of my wife. And that's 1387 00:49:29.240 --> 00:49:30.840 been in my office since I built this 1388 00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.460 office. He is, like, the prime example of 1389 00:49:34.460 --> 00:49:36.780 how to actually build a successful political movement. 1390 00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:39.300 And I guarantee you, 90, 95 % of 1391 00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:42.000 the belief systems are shared between Nick Fuentes 1392 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.720 and Charlie Kirk. The only problem lies in 1393 00:49:44.720 --> 00:49:46.860 their delivery and how they choose to go 1394 00:49:46.860 --> 00:49:49.020 about these things. Nick Flentis is more cut 1395 00:49:49.020 --> 00:49:50.660 from the cloth of like a Hassan Piker 1396 00:49:50.660 --> 00:49:53.320 for an example, right? He's very vulgar. He's 1397 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.160 very brash. He says crazy things to get 1398 00:49:55.160 --> 00:49:58.060 clips. Same exact thing with Hassan. Whereas I 1399 00:49:58.060 --> 00:50:00.560 think Nick Fuentes, you know, some of the 1400 00:50:00.560 --> 00:50:02.180 things he says, particularly telling his followers to 1401 00:50:02.180 --> 00:50:03.440 vote for Democrats, those are not in the 1402 00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:06.760 long -term interest of the American, you know, 1403 00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.960 people. Hassan just hates America, right? So I 1404 00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:13.360 wouldn't necessarily say that the Republican Party

needs 1405 00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.920 to count out to the Nick Fuentes base, 1406 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:17.780 but I do think that the one thing 1407 00:50:17.780 --> 00:50:20.680 Nick Fuentes has been absolutely correct on, among 1408 00:50:20.680 --> 00:50:22.480 a lot of other things, but most correct 1409 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:24.300 on was the Iran war. I don't think 1410 00:50:24.300 --> 00:50:25.860 anybody in America wanted the Iran war to 1411 00:50:25.860 --> 00:50:27.680 happen. it was the primary reason that we 1412 00:50:27.680 --> 00:50:30.300 wound up losing. And so, you know, I 1413 00:50:30.300 --> 00:50:32.240 wouldn't necessarily, so I largely agree with you, 1414 00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:35.220 Joey, but I think that it was more 1415 00:50:35.220 --> 00:50:38.240 happenstance, rather than, like, oh, the America first 1416 00:50:38.240 --> 00:50:40.280 vote, all the Groypers got out and voted 1417 00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.020 blue and it flipped the country. I think 1418 00:50:42.020 --> 00:50:44.320 it's more so just jaded at the Iran 1419 00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:46.180 War, and the Groyper's just so happened to 1420 00:50:46.180 --> 00:50:47.960 be as well. As far as, like, he, 1421 00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:49.140 and the reason I say that, and I'm 1422 00:50:49.140 --> 00:50:51.140 not entirely convinced that he or the Groypers 1423 00:50:51.140 --> 00:50:52.560 have a ton of actual influence in their 1424 00:50:52.560 --> 00:50:54.620 own right is because I think you guys 1425 00:50:54.620 --> 00:50:56.180 may remember back to 2024, when you guys, 1426 00:50:56.180 --> 00:50:57.960 he was tweeting things like, guys, I'm sending 1427 00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:59.780 people out, we're going to flip, you know, 1428 00:50:59.780 --> 00:51:02.180 some crazy red state, and he didn't. And, 1429 00:51:02.180 --> 00:51:06.040 like, obviously, there was nothing. He held, like, 1430 00:51:06.040 --> 00:51:08.460 an America First political action conference, but he 1431 00:51:08.460 --> 00:51:09.880 sold so few tickets that he had to 1432 00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:11.240 move it to, like, a dive bar, and 1433 00:51:11.240 --> 00:51:12.920 then got kicked out of the dive bar. 1434 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:13.920 And this was like, you know, a year 1435 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.820 and a half ago, two years ago. So, 1436 00:51:15.820 --> 00:51:18.160 you know, as much as we see him 1437 00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:19.900 a ton on X, I just think it 1438 00:51:19.900 --> 00:51:21.320 just so happy to be that the American 1439 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.060 people were very jaded toward the Iran war, 1440 00:51:23.060 --> 00:51:25.360 myself included. I think he's an extremely shrewd 1441 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.100 guy. And I think if he got his 1442 00:51:27.100 --> 00:51:28.860 act together and try to do something more 1443 00:51:28.860 --> 00:51:30.400 along the lines of what Charlie Kirk did, 1444 00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.760 which is actually

going out, getting to vote, 1445 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:36.280 and being more reasonable and just saying basically 1446 00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:38.240 what everybody is thinking, without all the other 1447 00:51:38.240 --> 00:51:39.520 crazy stuff, I think he'd be far more 1448 00:51:39.520 --> 00:51:42.180 effective, in my opinion. And that's just coming 1449 00:51:42.180 --> 00:51:44.580 for me. Like, a lot of my Zoomer 1450 00:51:44.580 --> 00:51:47.360 friends send me Fuentes clips. Like a lot 1451 00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:48.880 of my Zoomer friends that I know watch 1452 00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:51.960 his show. And so I know he does 1453 00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:53.260 have a lot of pull with the youth, 1454 00:51:53.260 --> 00:51:55.560 particularly right, but I'm in Massachusetts. Yeah, yeah, 1455 00:51:55.560 --> 00:51:57.940 yeah. Democrat anyway. But I think it's more 1456 00:51:57.940 --> 00:51:59.800 along the lines of, it's sort of a 1457 00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:01.540 symptom almost of people being fed up with 1458 00:52:01.540 --> 00:52:03.240 the current way things are done, right? Being 1459 00:52:03.240 --> 00:52:05.480 promised mass deportations. And even though we're getting 1460 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:07.400 mass deportations, we're just not getting them as 1461 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:09.740 fast as the right would have cared for. 1462 00:52:09.740 --> 00:52:11.600 You know, we got the Iran war. Nobody 1463 00:52:11.600 --> 00:52:12.880 voted for the Iran war. So I think 1464 00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:14.720 he's sort of an embodiment of that general 1465 00:52:14.720 --> 00:52:17.440 jaded nature toward modern American politics. But I 1466 00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:20.380 don't think that he could ever, you know, 1467 00:52:20.380 --> 00:52:23.120 sort of be brought in per se. If 1468 00:52:23.120 --> 00:52:24.500 he got it, if he stopped doing these 1469 00:52:24.500 --> 00:52:25.700 things, of course he could be brought in. 1470 00:52:25.700 --> 00:52:27.500 But I don't see the future where, like, 1471 00:52:27.500 --> 00:52:30.940 mainstream Republicans, you know, sort of tow the 1472 00:52:30.940 --> 00:52:33.000 line of, like, Nick Fuentes 1 .0, if 1473 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.300 you will, if that's... It's the Anakin memes, 1474 00:52:36.300 --> 00:52:39.500 man, Walker? Yeah. I think that Joe is 1475 00:52:39.500 --> 00:52:41.100 nailing it on this. One thing that I'll 1476 00:52:41.100 --> 00:52:43.240 say, too, is that I think, first of 1477 00:52:43.240 --> 00:52:47.140 all, Fuentes is obviously a highly intelligent guy. 1478 00:52:47.140 --> 00:52:49.820 Like, that's very clear. He's obviously, like, very 1479 00:52:49.820 --> 00:52:52.600 well read. He's got a very good handle 1480 00:52:52.600 --> 00:52:55.380 on history. You may not like everything that 1481 00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:57.820 he has to to say, that's okay, but 1482 00:52:57.820 --> 00:53:01.060 the guy is smart, and he's an incredible, 1483 00:53:01.060 -->

00:53:04.480 like, he's an incredible broadcaster. He's, like, for 1484 00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:05.600 all of us up here who know how 1485 00:53:05.600 --> 00:53:09.600 difficult broadcasting is, he's very, very, very good 1486 00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:11.760 at it. And he's good at tapping into 1487 00:53:11.760 --> 00:53:14.680 those, those emotions that get people riled up. 1488 00:53:14.680 --> 00:53:16.540 The contrast that I think that is apt 1489 00:53:16.540 --> 00:53:19.180 to draw between someone like Fuentes and someone 1490 00:53:19.180 --> 00:53:22.700 like Charlie Kirk is that what Fuentes primarily 1491 00:53:22.700 --> 00:53:24.940 pushes is, it's a little bit of an 1492 00:53:24.940 --> 00:53:29.300 apathetic nihilism. At the end of the day, 1493 00:53:29.300 --> 00:53:30.960 it's kind of like, yeah, we should do 1494 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:32.140 this and this and this, but it's not 1495 00:53:32.140 --> 00:53:34.640 actually like the call to action. It's calling 1496 00:53:34.640 --> 00:53:36.720 out the problems, but it's not the call 1497 00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:38.140 to action of how to fix it. That's 1498 00:53:38.140 --> 00:53:40.400 something I think Charlie Kirk did really well 1499 00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:43.360 and stayed on message with is actually giving 1500 00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:45.100 people a reason to hope, a reason to 1501 00:53:45.100 --> 00:53:48.000 be proud, a reason to say, hey, America's 1502 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:49.480 got its problems, but let's go out there 1503 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:51.640 and let's fix them. Let's do something about 1504 00:53:51.640 --> 00:53:54.320 it. may Charlie Kirk rest in peace. I 1505 00:53:54.320 --> 00:53:56.360 think that was a truly great. great loss 1506 00:53:56.360 --> 00:54:00.060 losing someone like him because I think he 1507 00:54:00.060 --> 00:54:04.680 did know how to organize politically. I mean, 1508 00:54:04.680 --> 00:54:06.220 one of the, one of the best out 1509 00:54:06.220 --> 00:54:08.920 there at an age younger than me when 1510 00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:12.040 he was murdered, when he was assassinated. It's 1511 00:54:12.040 --> 00:54:13.700 an incredible loss because that's what I think 1512 00:54:13.700 --> 00:54:17.540 that generally we need more of is people 1513 00:54:17.540 --> 00:54:18.660 who are actually coming out there. And you 1514 00:54:18.660 --> 00:54:20.980 see this, that's the thing. From the Hassan 1515 00:54:20.980 --> 00:54:24.120 Pikers or from the Nick Fuentes, either side, 1516 00:54:24.120 --> 00:54:26.300 it's like, yeah, you know, one is, Hassan's 1517 00:54:26.300 --> 00:54:29.560 obviously, you know, anti -American, uh, dog zapper. 1518 00:54:29.560 --> 00:54:33.300 Little, yeah, dog zapping, uh, little trust fund 1519 00:54:33.300 --> 00:54:35.460 baby who likes to, you know, cosplay as 1520 00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:38.140 a fancy dress and commie, um, and should 1521 00:54:38.140 --> 00:54:40.460 just be absolutely ridiculed and disregarded as all 1522 00:54:40.460 --> 00:54:44.700 communists should. But even Fuentes, uh, it's a 1523 00:54:44.700 --> 00:54:46.960 lot of, yes, I think it's important to 1524 00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:48.700 focus in the doom. It's important to focus 1525 00:54:48.700 --> 00:54:50.140 on some of the negative aspects of things 1526 00:54:50.140 --> 00:54:51.520 because you need to wake people up with 1527 00:54:51.520 --> 00:54:54.540 those. You need to get them viscerally, viscerally 1528 00:54:54.540 --> 00:54:56.820 reacting. to what you're speaking about is that 1529 00:54:56.820 --> 00:54:58.660 they actually have a reason to care. But 1530 00:54:58.660 --> 00:55:00.900 then after you do that, you need to 1531 00:55:00.900 --> 00:55:02.540 be, after you talk about the problem, you 1532 00:55:02.540 --> 00:55:03.800 have to be able to talk about the 1533 00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:05.860 solution and present it in a coherent way 1534 00:55:05.860 --> 00:55:08.620 that gives people a reason to hope. Because 1535 00:55:08.620 --> 00:55:10.700 otherwise, you don't actually mobilize anyone. You just 1536 00:55:10.700 --> 00:55:13.520 create a mass audience of people who sit 1537 00:55:13.520 --> 00:55:16.200 bitching, you know, in their house and are 1538 00:55:16.200 --> 00:55:18.420 too afraid to voice their ideas publicly in 1539 00:55:18.420 --> 00:55:20.760 any real person's sense because they don't actually 1540 00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:22.540 have a solution. They can call out the 1541 00:55:22.540 --> 00:55:24.220 problems, but they can't say what they would 1542 00:55:24.220 --> 00:55:25.820 do to fix it. And the things they 1543 00:55:25.820 --> 00:55:26.900 would do to fix it, perhaps are not 1544 00:55:26.900 --> 00:55:29.940 entirely coherent. And this is not like a 1545 00:55:29.940 --> 00:55:31.040 knock on point just, I think this is 1546 00:55:31.040 --> 00:55:32.980 just like, this is how he broadcast. I 1547 00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:34.620 think you need people like that who are 1548 00:55:34.620 --> 00:55:37.160 going to be able to mobilize the youth's 1549 00:55:37.160 --> 00:55:39.360 emotional response. But if you can't actually mobilize 1550 00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:43.620 people to take constructive action, you can't mobilize 1551 00:55:43.620 --> 00:55:45.100 people to actually go out there and do 1552 00:55:45.100 --> 00:55:49.220 something positive, to take positive, proactive action instead 1553 00:55:49.220 --> 00:55:52.700 of sort of this reactionary negativity. And just 1554 00:55:52.700 --> 00:55:57.000 reactionary negativity just necessarily breeds. nihilism and nihilism 1555 00:55:57.000 --> 00:55:59.560 doesn't get anything done like that that's kind 1556 00:55:59.560 --> 00:56:01.020 of the thing about nihilism right is that 1557 00:56:01.020 --> 00:56:02.580 you're not going to do anything it gets 1558 00:56:02.580 --> 00:56:04.700 you voting for the left yeah yeah exactly 1559 00:56:04.700 --> 00:56:06.080 it

gets you the point where oh this 1560 00:56:06.080 --> 00:56:07.240 they're so screwed you know what ha ha 1561 00:56:07.240 --> 00:56:08.880 I'll troll them by voting you know voting 1562 00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:10.680 for the retarded it's ridiculous it's like I 1563 00:56:10.680 --> 00:56:12.460 I don't like the Iran war as much 1564 00:56:12.460 --> 00:56:13.700 as the next guy but I'm not going 1565 00:56:13.700 --> 00:56:15.720 to vote for kill the kill all Americans 1566 00:56:15.720 --> 00:56:18.820 party to get back it's like oh geez 1567 00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:20.440 everybody I wonder what I'm going to do 1568 00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.020 you know and that's that's that's my issue 1569 00:56:23.020 --> 00:56:24.000 too I think you hit it on the 1570 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.340 head it's like Charlie Kelly Kirk sort of 1571 00:56:26.340 --> 00:56:28.420 open the door with everything that's wrong, and 1572 00:56:28.420 --> 00:56:29.740 then he presented a real solution and actually 1573 00:56:29.740 --> 00:56:30.900 got out there and built a business to 1574 00:56:30.900 --> 00:56:33.440 help fix it. Nick Flint is, starts here 1575 00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.160 and he never gets over here. And I 1576 00:56:35.160 --> 00:56:37.200 think that he could. I think that he 1577 00:56:37.200 --> 00:56:40.020 could because he's smart enough to. He's smart 1578 00:56:40.020 --> 00:56:41.580 enough to. Maybe it's a little bit of 1579 00:56:41.580 --> 00:56:44.080 like audience capture, which is something like we 1580 00:56:44.080 --> 00:56:46.120 all know something about is like, you know, 1581 00:56:46.120 --> 00:56:48.860 we're, we're, we're, Joe, Joe's, uh, Joe's probably 1582 00:56:48.860 --> 00:56:50.800 the the leash needs because he's really broken 1583 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:52.740 out of the just Bitcoiners bubble into, I 1584 00:56:52.740 --> 00:56:55.100 think the larger larger, larger macro sphere. which 1585 00:56:55.100 --> 00:56:57.880 is great. But, you know, it's easy. Joey's 1586 00:56:57.880 --> 00:56:59.320 now in the MSTR camp, so he's got 1587 00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:01.700 that too. Well, yeah, Joey's basically on MSTR 1588 00:57:01.700 --> 00:57:06.700 True North. But, like, it's difficult to get 1589 00:57:06.700 --> 00:57:08.660 past that audience capture point, right? And when 1590 00:57:08.660 --> 00:57:10.120 you have people, you sort of start feeling 1591 00:57:10.120 --> 00:57:11.240 like, okay, this is, I know this is 1592 00:57:11.240 --> 00:57:12.400 what my audience wants to hear. I know 1593 00:57:12.400 --> 00:57:13.280 this is what's going to get him riled 1594 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:14.220 up. I know this is what's going to 1595 00:57:14.220 --> 00:57:16.800 get my show clipped. And Flentis is really, 1596 00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:18.780 really good at that. Again, he's an incredible 1597 00:57:18.780 --> 00:57:21.220 broadcaster. That's hard to do to go out 1598 00:57:21.220 --> 00:57:23.980 there and go off the cuff solo for 1599 00:57:23.980 --> 00:57:27.520 hours. Like, that's fucking hard. That's really hard 1600 00:57:27.520 --> 00:57:30.180 to do. Speaking of hard, this is the 1601 00:57:30.180 --> 00:57:32.540 guy who's gonna, uh, who's threatening you online, 1602 00:57:32.540 --> 00:57:33.620 by the way. Look at him. Look at 1603 00:57:33.620 --> 00:57:35.340 him. Oh boy. Look, those kicks. Look at 1604 00:57:35.340 --> 00:57:37.280 that for him. Anyway, I think I wanted 1605 00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.260 to say that. Whenever I think of Hassan, 1606 00:57:39.260 --> 00:57:41.800 I think of that's excellent. Yeah, but no, 1607 00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:43.300 I think that, and this is just a 1608 00:57:43.300 --> 00:57:45.160 general thing for, especially I think for for 1609 00:57:45.160 --> 00:57:47.820 Bitcoin content creators that maybe that's why Bitcoin 1610 00:57:47.820 --> 00:57:49.740 stays so niche. Because actually I think that, 1611 00:57:49.740 --> 00:57:50.640 and this is a bit of a black 1612 00:57:50.640 --> 00:57:52.820 pill, I don't think most people want the 1613 00:57:52.820 --> 00:57:54.920 solution. And it's sad to say, I don't, 1614 00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:57.940 don't think most people actually want the solution. 1615 00:57:57.940 --> 00:57:59.260 They don't want to know that there is 1616 00:57:59.260 --> 00:58:00.620 the, yeah, we're in a dark tunnel, but 1617 00:58:00.620 --> 00:58:02.200 there is a light at the under end. 1618 00:58:02.200 --> 00:58:03.700 And it's not a train. Like, the train 1619 00:58:03.700 --> 00:58:06.000 is behind you. Run towards the light, run 1620 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.300 towards the sunshine, run towards the bright orange 1621 00:58:08.300 --> 00:58:11.020 future. People don't want that message of optimism. 1622 00:58:11.020 --> 00:58:14.100 What they want, they actually, they crave nihilism, 1623 00:58:14.100 --> 00:58:18.040 I think. They crave negativity. They crave the, 1624 00:58:18.040 --> 00:58:20.020 everything is so fucked up, and I'm smart 1625 00:58:20.020 --> 00:58:21.760 enough to know about it because I'm super 1626 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:23.440 enlightened in all this, but there's nothing I 1627 00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:24.840 can do about it. There's nothing anyone can 1628 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.100 do. It's all just fucked. But hey, at 1629 00:58:27.100 --> 00:58:28.660 least I'm smart enough to know about it 1630 00:58:28.660 --> 00:58:30.800 and can glibly tweet about it. He, ha, 1631 00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:32.400 ha, hey, hey, you know, keck, kek, kek. 1632 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:36.160 Like, no, no, we need to have optimism. 1633 00:58:36.160 --> 00:58:37.280 We need to have hope. We need to 1634 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:39.400 have a belief that we can make things 1635 00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:42.640 better through our actions individually and collectively, not 1636 00:58:42.640 --> 00:58:45.700 in the bullshit collectivist way. But in the 1637 00:58:45.700 -->

00:58:48.420 sense that a lot of people striving to 1638 00:58:48.420 --> 00:58:49.700 do what is right and do what is 1639 00:58:49.700 --> 00:58:51.140 good and do what is just and do 1640 00:58:51.140 --> 00:58:53.220 what is fair, will make the world a 1641 00:58:53.220 --> 00:58:55.320 better place. But you know what? People don't 1642 00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:57.600 fucking want that. They want fucking doom and 1643 00:58:57.600 --> 00:59:00.580 gloom and fucking clickbait. That's what they want. 1644 00:59:00.580 --> 00:59:02.140 So, you know what, little piggy's gobble it 1645 00:59:02.140 --> 00:59:04.600 the fuck up. You can continue being sad 1646 00:59:04.600 --> 00:59:06.760 sacks of little misery. And you know what? 1647 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:07.540 We're going to keep doing. We're going to 1648 00:59:07.540 --> 00:59:10.100 keep trying to occasionally bring you some positivity 1649 00:59:10.100 --> 00:59:12.160 that may just turn your head slightly towards 1650 00:59:12.160 --> 00:59:14.240 that light because it does exist. It is 1651 00:59:14.240 --> 00:59:16.180 bright and it is waiting for you. All 1652 00:59:16.180 --> 00:59:18.380 you have to do is walk toward it. 1653 00:59:18.380 --> 00:59:20.760 End of rant. People want the excuse. They 1654 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.540 want an excuse to say yes to the 1655 00:59:22.540 --> 00:59:24.060 Chinese spy. Now, we're going to go to 1656 00:59:24.060 --> 00:59:25.400 break. And on the other side of the 1657 00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:26.680 break, there's the question, though. At the other 1658 00:59:26.680 --> 00:59:27.920 side of the break, I got some sailor 1659 00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:29.020 news, a little bit of micro strategy. I 1660 00:59:29.020 --> 00:59:30.920 got some inflation and labor data as well, 1661 00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:32.000 too. But I'm going to give it to 1662 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:34.320 Joe, being so kind for coming and joining 1663 00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:35.700 us today. Joe, do you want to hit 1664 00:59:35.700 --> 00:59:37.220 that or seeing us that we brought up, 1665 00:59:37.220 --> 00:59:38.240 Charlie Kirk, do you want to talk about 1666 00:59:38.240 --> 00:59:40.580 Dave Chappelle? You know, we can hit on 1667 00:59:40.580 --> 00:59:42.700 both. We can hit on both. All right, 1668 00:59:42.700 --> 00:59:45.400 that sounds good. I'm going to rattle through 1669 00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:46.780 the macro data. And maybe we'll do a 1670 00:59:46.780 --> 00:59:48.120 little more culture as well, too. So if 1671 00:59:48.120 --> 00:59:50.220 you're enjoying the conversation, throw a chair. If 1672 00:59:50.220 --> 00:59:51.060 you think that you're going to do something 1673 00:59:51.060 --> 00:59:52.580 better about the world, rather than being nihilistic 1674 00:59:52.580 --> 00:59:54.300 and bitch about it, also throw a chair. 1675 00:59:54.300 --> 00:59:55.660 Hit that like button and we'll be right 1676 00:59:55.660 --> 00:59:58.820 back with you. Unless

for some reason you 1677 00:59:58.820 --> 01:00:00.420 think they're about to stop printing and stop 1678 01:00:00.420 --> 01:00:02.700 borrowing, you know exactly where Bitcoin is going. 1679 01:00:02.700 --> 01:00:03.900 And whether your stack is already at the 1680 01:00:03.900 --> 01:00:05.040 size where you know you should do something 1681 01:00:05.040 --> 01:00:06.540 about it or it's headed there, it's time 1682 01:00:06.540 --> 01:00:08.420 your security caught up. That's why you need 1683 01:00:08.420 --> 01:00:11.800 CASA premium. Your Bitcoin secured across five keys. 1684 01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:13.560 Three on hardware from different vendors, one on 1685 01:00:13.560 --> 01:00:15.620 your phone and one held by CASA. Use 1686 01:00:15.620 --> 01:00:16.960 any three to sign, which means if you 1687 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:18.840 lose one key, you don't lose your stack. 1688 01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:20.340 It also means that CASA can't move it 1689 01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:22.340 without you. The kit, devices and everything that 1690 01:00:22.340 --> 01:00:23.580 goes with it, ships right to your door, 1691 01:00:23.580 --> 01:00:24.940 and their advisory team, walks you through the 1692 01:00:24.940 --> 01:00:26.480 full setup. And for those of you who 1693 01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:28.120 care about privacy as much as I do, 1694 01:00:28.120 --> 01:00:29.840 there's no KYC on the vault. Use any 1695 01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:31.500 email you like, use any address you like. 1696 01:00:31.500 --> 01:00:33.440 No one has to know your personal details. 1697 01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:34.400 I know what you're thinking? What if something 1698 01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:36.400 happens to Kasa? What about my family? 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--> 01:02:43.760 down a little bit there, buddy. Sorry about 1754 01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:46.240 that. Additionally, want to hit on some of 1755 01:02:46.240 --> 01:02:49.760 the Fed input. I know. New York Fed, 1756 01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.240 U .S. inflation expectations beat forecast as job 1757 01:02:52.240 --> 01:02:54.760 fears rise. So we got inflation. inflation data 1758 01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.700 sitting at 1 .91, I believe the expectations 1759 01:02:57.700 --> 01:02:59.420 on the three -year, 3 .3, and on 1760 01:02:59.420 --> 01:03:02.240 the five -year expectations, 3 .0. And then 1761 01:03:02.240 --> 01:03:03.620 the other one I found was quite interesting 1762 01:03:03.620 --> 01:03:06.060 was layoff fears hit highest since COVID crash 1763 01:03:06.060 --> 01:03:08.360 as inflation expectations stay stuck near three -year 1764 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:10.560 highs. So, Joe, I want to get your 1765 01:03:10.560 --> 01:03:12.120 take on the little macro overview that we 1766 01:03:12.120 --> 01:03:13.880 have there. And then we can move to 1767 01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.360 maybe even discussing the recent viral comments from 1768 01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:20.380 Mr. Dave Chappelle. Yeah. So, oh, goodness, I 1769 01:03:20.380 --> 01:03:22.060 have this in full screen. I can't share 1770 01:03:22.060 --> 01:03:23.180 my screen. Let me go. There you go. 1771 01:03:23.180 --> 01:03:26.460 All right, beautiful. Oh, no, it was an 1772 01:03:26.460 --> 01:03:27.460 issue on my head. I had it blown 1773 01:03:27.460 --> 01:03:29.340 up on full string. Here we go. Okay. 1774 01:03:29.340 --> 01:03:32.180 So this is the Bitcoin terminal. And I 1775 01:03:32.180 --> 01:03:34.180 made this out of spite because Bloomberg created 1776 01:03:34.180 --> 01:03:36.260 a new thing where instead of being able 1777 01:03:36.260 --> 01:03:37.680 to log in remotely, you need like a 1778 01:03:37.680 --> 01:03:40.000 Bloomberg keyboard, which obviously I don't have. I 1779 01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:41.680 was using the Bloomberg terminal for free for 1780 01:03:41.680 --> 01:03:43.400 all those years. So I just, in the 1781 01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:44.840 remaining time that I had it, I just 1782 01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:48.140 replicated basically everything on it. So this is 1783 01:03:48.140 --> 01:03:52.440 the inflation report expectations for tomorrow. Last month, 1784 01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:53.880 obviously they came in it. 0 .7%. The 1785 01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:55.940 expectation for the month of October being reported 1786 01:03:55.940 --> 01:03:59.640 tomorrow is 3 .9%. So an acceleration and 1787 01:03:59.640 --> 01:04:02.320 inflation, if it comes in lower than expected, 1788 01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:04.120 expect risk to react really well. If it 1789 01:04:04.120 --> 01:04:06.380 comes in hotter than expected, expect obviously risk 1790 01:04:06.380 --> 01:04:10.460 to ask risk to behave poorly. These are 1791 01:04:10.460 --> 01:04:13.320 the odds of the rate decision, the upcoming 1792 01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.840 rate decisions in December. You can see the 1793 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:17.840 odds of a high rate at 81%. So 1794 01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:19.780 basically locked in, we're still a month away. 1795 01:04:19.780 --> 01:04:21.140 If we get like a series of weaker 1796 01:04:21.140 --> 01:04:24.440 than expected economic prints, with inflation next month, 1797 01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:26.160 then that could go away. But I doubt 1798 01:04:26.160 --> 01:04:29.160 it. And then basically, the expectations right now 1799 01:04:29.160 --> 01:04:31.080 are that after that, they'll be on hold 1800 01:04:31.080 --> 01:04:33.100 for the next two meetings. So ostensibly, the 1801 01:04:33.100 --> 01:04:35.280 last hikes of the cycle, and probably the 1802 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:37.600 last hike of the cycle in December, especially 1803 01:04:37.600 --> 01:04:40.600 if you consider, if you go to WTI 1804 01:04:40.600 --> 01:04:42.660 crude oil, I'm pretty sure I have it 1805 01:04:42.660 --> 01:04:45.100 somewhere on here. Is this it? Yeah, right 1806 01:04:45.100 --> 01:04:46.720 here. So if you look at crude oil 1807 01:04:46.720 --> 01:04:49.080 and you go back, let's go back three 1808 01:04:49.080 --> 01:04:51.740 years. If we go all the way back 1809 01:04:51.740 --> 01:04:53.960 here, you can see the expectations of the 1810 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:56.180 last Fed hike are in December on hold 1811 01:04:56.180 --> 01:04:58.520 in January and March. And that makes sense 1812 01:04:58.520 --> 01:05:02.060 because right around March was the time last 1813 01:05:02.060 --> 01:05:04.500 year, it was the time when oil prices 1814 01:05:04.500 --> 01:05:07.060 obviously spiked the first time. They went over, 1815 01:05:07.060 --> 01:05:09.500 well over 100 bucks. And so they've been 1816 01:05:09.500 --> 01:05:12.820 shopping around here. That means by next March, 1817 01:05:12.820 --> 01:05:14.280 the inflation data that will be coming in 1818 01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:16.860 will be very cool. But it won't be 1819 01:05:16.860 --> 01:05:20.200 cool because prices are actually decelerating in terms 1820 01:05:20.200 --> 01:05:21.940 of their rise. They'll only be cool because 1821 01:05:21.940 --> 01:05:23.780 of the base effects of inflation. So the 1822 01:05:23.780 --> 01:05:26.140 energy inflation measured from last year to this 1823 01:05:26.140 --> 01:05:29.920 year, beginning next March, will be extremely low, 1824 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:31.740 right? Obviously, because this is where you're measuring 1825 01:05:31.740 --> 01:05:34.080 from. Currently, we're measuring from down here. So 1826 01:05:34.080 --> 01:05:36.220 the energy inflation is still really high. But 1827 01:05:36.220 --> 01:05:37.700 once you're measuring from up here to down 1828 01:05:37.700 --> 01:05:39.620 here, it's really low. Or up here to 1829 01:05:39.620 --> 01:05:40.700 where we are now, it's really low. So 1830

01:05:40.700 --> 01:05:43.440 I expect this to be the last type 1831 01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:46.600 of the cycle. That said, it's like, you 1832 01:05:46.600 --> 01:05:48.360 know, the economy is clearly doing quite well, 1833 01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:50.100 even with rates as high as they are. 1834 01:05:50.100 --> 01:05:52.640 So I tend to think that the energy 1835 01:05:52.640 --> 01:05:53.920 inflation is going to. going to help, but 1836 01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.080 it might not bring inflation all the way 1837 01:05:56.080 --> 01:05:58.120 down. I hope that it will. And if 1838 01:05:58.120 --> 01:06:00.720 it does, that would be great. And I 1839 01:06:00.720 --> 01:06:02.640 guess the Treasury market is pricing that in, 1840 01:06:02.640 --> 01:06:05.380 too. Obviously, growth expectations here and all the 1841 01:06:05.380 --> 01:06:06.760 way out at the 30 year. Those have 1842 01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:08.500 been falling for the last about month and 1843 01:06:08.500 --> 01:06:10.200 some change, which is good. That means the 1844 01:06:10.200 --> 01:06:12.440 market believes that growth and inflation expectations are 1845 01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:14.640 slowing. I think this lines up with sort 1846 01:06:14.640 --> 01:06:16.140 of the idea that I have, which is, 1847 01:06:16.140 --> 01:06:17.800 you know, around next March, inflation will sort 1848 01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:19.480 of cool off. That's why there's only one 1849 01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.000 high price 10. And I think this is 1850 01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:22.460 all perfect, a perfect setup for Bitcoin. I'm 1851 01:06:22.460 --> 01:06:24.200 sorry for yapping. so much, but this is 1852 01:06:24.200 --> 01:06:25.720 very similar to the setup we had in 1853 01:06:25.720 --> 01:06:29.220 December of 2022 for Bitcoin specifically. There's the 1854 01:06:29.220 --> 01:06:30.360 last thing I'll say. If we go all 1855 01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:33.800 the way back here, right around this time 1856 01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:36.580 here, right, the bottom in 2022, we had 1857 01:06:36.580 --> 01:06:38.340 inflation that was coming in hot print after 1858 01:06:38.340 --> 01:06:39.780 print and a Fed that was expected to 1859 01:06:39.780 --> 01:06:42.800 hike in order to bring it down, right? 1860 01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:44.320 All of these right here were rate hikes 1861 01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:46.300 as economic data cool. Well, guess what? There's 1862 01:06:46.300 --> 01:06:48.960 only one rate hike price in now, and 1863 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:50.300 I believe we put our bottom in in 1864 01:06:50.300 --> 01:06:52.080 June, right? So could Bitcoin drift a little 1865 01:06:52.080 --> 01:06:54.340 lower? Sure. I don't think it's going to 1866 01:06:54.340 --> 01:06:55.520 drift too much lower. I certainly don't think 1867 01:06:55.520 --> 01:06:56.740 it's going to make a new low. But, 1868 01:06:56.740 --> 01:06:59.420 like, everything's lining up with 2022, and it's 1869 01:06:59.420 --> 01:07:03.100 very encouraging. Beautiful. I absolutely love it. So 1870 01:07:03.100 --> 01:07:05.880 then, changing topics for the last little bit 1871 01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:07.040 of the show here. Let me go ahead 1872 01:07:07.040 --> 01:07:08.420 and play the clip from Dave Chappelle that 1873 01:07:08.420 --> 01:07:13.900 was going viral. I feel fucked up saying. 1874 01:07:13.900 --> 01:07:18.440 It's scary being a public speaker. And I 1875 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:23.180 mean, look, ever since, that guy, Charlie Kirkman, 1876 01:07:23.180 --> 01:07:28.040 got murdered. And I shouldn't say this publicly, 1877 01:07:28.040 --> 01:07:35.460 but I feel better. I still am a 1878 01:07:35.460 --> 01:07:37.160 human being. I know, I shouldn't say that, 1879 01:07:37.160 --> 01:07:42.980 but it's just a feeling. Joe, your thoughts 1880 01:07:42.980 --> 01:07:45.760 there, sir. I just don't think that was 1881 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:47.840 funny. Like, where is the punchline? And there 1882 01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:50.440 was a, um, you know, there was a 1883 01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:51.940 person who had reported being there for the 1884 01:07:51.940 --> 01:07:54.240 entire thing. And apparently it was just him 1885 01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:56.420 like walking around up on stage, meandering around 1886 01:07:56.420 --> 01:07:58.940 aimlessly with his cigarette in his mouth talking 1887 01:07:58.940 --> 01:08:02.160 about Charlie Kirk and the Epstein files. And 1888 01:08:02.160 --> 01:08:04.440 then like the show ended. It like apparently 1889 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:07.540 there were no actual comedic bits. But you 1890 01:08:07.540 --> 01:08:08.700 know, to be to be frank, that kind 1891 01:08:08.700 --> 01:08:09.920 of lines up with the way that Dave 1892 01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:12.040 Chappelle has kind of done as comedy, particularly 1893 01:08:12.040 --> 01:08:14.100 over the last like five, five, six, seven 1894 01:08:14.100 --> 01:08:16.480 years since his resurgence. Like some of his 1895 01:08:16.480 --> 01:08:18.120 Netflix specials were pretty good. But for the 1896 01:08:18.120 --> 01:08:20.040 most part, like as far as most of 1897 01:08:20.040 --> 01:08:22.200 his comedy is concerned, I think he thinks 1898 01:08:22.200 --> 01:08:24.020 of himself very highly. like almost as like 1899 01:08:24.020 --> 01:08:26.440 a philosopher king of sorts like he had 1900 01:08:26.440 --> 01:08:27.820 a show on comedy central in the early 1901 01:08:27.820 --> 01:08:29.640 2000s it was in the middle of the 1902 01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:31.440 bush era everybody loved it because he was 1903 01:08:31.440 --> 01:08:33.820 like this super duper funny bombastic guy he 1904 01:08:33.820 --> 01:08:35.840 said a naughty word he lost his show 1905 01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:38.020 um you know and then he goes on 1906 01:08:38.020 --> 01:08:40.040 Netflix and says another naughty word like 12 1907 01:08:40.040 --> 01:08:42.100 years later and everybody loves him and

that's 1908 01:08:42.100 --> 01:08:43.820 sort of like dave chapelle's career right i'm 1909 01:08:43.820 --> 01:08:45.360 not trying to knock the guy but i 1910 01:08:45.360 --> 01:08:49.380 think that that just wasn't objectively very funny 1911 01:08:49.380 --> 01:08:50.400 at all and then he went on to 1912 01:08:50.400 --> 01:08:51.520 say and this is ironic he went on 1913 01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:54.420 to say that um You know, I bet 1914 01:08:54.420 --> 01:08:56.780 he's looking up at us right now, laughing 1915 01:08:56.780 --> 01:08:59.160 his ass off, which is funny because, you 1916 01:08:59.160 --> 01:09:01.460 know, Dave Chappelle isn't a Christian. He doesn't 1917 01:09:01.460 --> 01:09:02.900 believe in heaven or hell. I call him 1918 01:09:02.900 --> 01:09:04.740 an atheist, but people were quick to point 1919 01:09:04.740 --> 01:09:06.760 out that he's actually a devout Muslim, to 1920 01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:09.440 which I responded, what's the difference. And so 1921 01:09:09.440 --> 01:09:12.040 it's like, it's, it's kind of remarkable how 1922 01:09:12.040 --> 01:09:14.280 unfun. Maybe he's doing like an anti -comedy 1923 01:09:14.280 --> 01:09:15.820 routine. I don't know. Maybe some people get 1924 01:09:15.820 --> 01:09:17.320 a kick out of this, but it's kind 1925 01:09:17.320 --> 01:09:19.360 of insane that culturally you can do that. 1926 01:09:19.360 --> 01:09:21.540 Like, imagine a comedian getting up like a 1927 01:09:21.540 --> 01:09:23.720 year after, and obviously JFK was. the president. 1928 01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:24.840 Charlie Kirk was not the president. But to 1929 01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:26.900 say that Charlie wasn't like one of if 1930 01:09:26.900 --> 01:09:28.760 not the most consequential political figures of the 1931 01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:30.260 21st century, I think you're doing a disservice 1932 01:09:30.260 --> 01:09:33.260 if you don't admit that. Like imagine a 1933 01:09:33.260 --> 01:09:35.960 comedian going up in like, you know, 1968, 1934 01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:38.060 like a year and some change after JFK 1935 01:09:38.060 --> 01:09:39.880 was murdered or whatever and saying like, I'm 1936 01:09:39.880 --> 01:09:42.980 glad that he's dead, you know? Imagine the 1937 01:09:42.980 --> 01:09:45.260 national headlines is a crazy backlash. I mean, 1938 01:09:45.260 --> 01:09:47.860 we've seen, you know, stuff like this before. 1939 01:09:47.860 --> 01:09:50.780 Gilbert Godfrey, like 11 days after 9 -11 1940 01:09:50.780 --> 01:09:52.880 in New York City doing a joke about 1941 01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:54.520 9 -11. saying like, oh, you know, I 1942 01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:56.140 got an express flight that was supposed to 1943 01:09:56.140 --> 01:09:57.480 take a stop at the Empire State Building 1944 01:09:57.480 --> 01:09:59.260 or something like that. And everybody in the 1945 01:09:59.260 --> 01:10:01.700 crowd was like, oh my gosh, but at 1946 01:10:01.700 --> 01:10:03.520 least like there was a punchline. At least 1947 01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:05.700 that was a joke. This is basically him 1948 01:10:05.700 --> 01:10:07.640 just saying like, oh, I'm glad this family 1949 01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:12.800 man was assassinated. It's just odd. Walker. I 1950 01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:15.200 would say that Charlie Kirk would have supported 1951 01:10:15.200 --> 01:10:17.420 Dave Chappelle's right to make any joke he 1952 01:10:17.420 --> 01:10:21.700 wants. That being said, I don't know the 1953 01:10:21.700 --> 01:10:24.560 context around that joke. I have not watched 1954 01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.480 that comedy special at all. I think Dave 1955 01:10:28.480 --> 01:10:30.380 Chappelle is generally a very funny guy. I 1956 01:10:30.380 --> 01:10:32.040 think when he came back from his hiatus 1957 01:10:32.040 --> 01:10:33.980 and he came in and he very much 1958 01:10:33.980 --> 01:10:38.640 like was being very anti -woke at a 1959 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:40.520 time when that was needed. I think that 1960 01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:43.740 was really good and also was really funny. 1961 01:10:43.740 --> 01:10:46.960 Like now this, that like taken out of 1962 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:48.840 context, I don't find that to be particularly 1963 01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:52.200 funny. Personally, I wouldn't make a joke about 1964 01:10:52.200 --> 01:10:56.580 Charlie, you know, Charlie Kirk's murder, especially in 1965 01:10:56.580 --> 01:10:59.120 that context, but I'm also not a comedian. 1966 01:10:59.120 --> 01:11:02.020 I will say that, like, I think that, 1967 01:11:02.020 --> 01:11:03.340 again, I think that Charlie Kirk probably would 1968 01:11:03.340 --> 01:11:05.080 have said, yeah, you should make whatever jokes 1969 01:11:05.080 --> 01:11:07.400 you want, Dave. And then the market can 1970 01:11:07.400 --> 01:11:08.780 decide whether or not those jokes are actually 1971 01:11:08.780 --> 01:11:12.020 funny. Like, that one, just, just from that 1972 01:11:12.020 --> 01:11:14.560 clip, like, that's, like, that's, like, that's like, 1973 01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:15.620 that's like, that's like liberal funny. You know 1974 01:11:15.620 --> 01:11:17.060 what I mean? Where it's like, we said 1975 01:11:17.060 --> 01:11:19.400 a mean thing about a person we hate. 1976 01:11:19.400 --> 01:11:22.820 Like, ha, ha. Like, it's not, like, it's 1977 01:11:22.820 --> 01:11:24.520 not, no one that's actually funny. So, like, 1978 01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:25.900 what I'm worried about, what I'm worried about, 1979 01:11:25.900 --> 01:11:28.360 because I think Dave Chappelle has done a 1980 01:11:28.360 --> 01:11:32.580 really good job of cutting through the forced 1981 01:11:32.580 --> 01:11:35.500 bullshit of wokeism and did a really, like, 1982 01:11:35.500 --> 01:11:36.820 those specials when he came back from his 1983 01:11:36.820 --> 01:11:40.280 hiatus were fucking great. They were really, like, 1984 01:11:40.280 --> 01:11:41.760 I thought they were really good.

Like, and 1985 01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:43.480 he got all sorts of death threats from 1986 01:11:43.480 --> 01:11:46.740 the, the, the he, she's, and, or the, 1987 01:11:46.740 --> 01:11:49.760 he's that are from the pronouns, peoples, and 1988 01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:52.900 whatnot. And, and, and, and that was good. 1989 01:11:52.900 --> 01:11:54.440 Like, because as a comedian, I think you 1990 01:11:54.440 --> 01:11:58.580 need to be able to say anything. Now, 1991 01:11:58.580 --> 01:12:01.420 that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be judged 1992 01:12:01.420 --> 01:12:04.080 for how actually funny that is, because your 1993 01:12:04.080 --> 01:12:06.260 job as a comedian is to be funny. 1994 01:12:06.260 --> 01:12:07.360 Your job is to be able to actually 1995 01:12:07.360 --> 01:12:09.760 as a comedian to say the really uncomfortable 1996 01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:12.400 things that people don't want to say, but 1997 01:12:12.400 --> 01:12:14.980 that everyone's thinking, and say it in such 1998 01:12:14.980 --> 01:12:17.080 a way that it resonates. And even maybe 1999 01:12:17.080 --> 01:12:18.620 the people who disagree with you and think 2000 01:12:18.620 --> 01:12:19.760 you're a piece of shit, kind of get 2001 01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:22.300 a little chuckle, like, okay, well, all right. 2002 01:12:22.300 --> 01:12:23.740 That was, you know, I was pretty, I 2003 01:12:23.740 --> 01:12:26.140 wasn't expecting that, you know, I don't think 2004 01:12:26.140 --> 01:12:27.460 that's what this was. Again, I'd have to 2005 01:12:27.460 --> 01:12:29.720 watch the rest of it. But again, I 2006 01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:33.700 will support always, well, for anyone, but especially 2007 01:12:33.700 --> 01:12:35.860 for comedians, I think comedians need to be 2008 01:12:35.860 --> 01:12:39.160 able to say anything. They should be judged 2009 01:12:39.160 --> 01:12:41.300 on whether or not it's actually funny and 2010 01:12:41.300 --> 01:12:45.020 clever and poignant and gets at something deeper 2011 01:12:45.020 --> 01:12:47.560 that makes people think a little bit. Like 2012 01:12:47.560 --> 01:12:49.480 that, that's why, that's what makes great comedy 2013 01:12:49.480 --> 01:12:50.500 great is, first of all, it's got to 2014 01:12:50.500 --> 01:12:53.400 be funny. Like, that's kind of the prerequisite. 2015 01:12:53.400 --> 01:12:55.140 But it should also make people think. It 2016 01:12:55.140 --> 01:12:56.980 should make you question. Comedy should make you 2017 01:12:56.980 --> 01:13:00.720 uncomfortable. The best comedy makes people uncomfortable because 2018 01:13:00.720 --> 01:13:02.340 they're sitting there laughing. They're like, I shouldn't 2019 01:13:02.340 --> 01:13:04.220 be laughing at this, but damn if it 2020 01:13:04.220 --> 01:13:06.700 ain't funny, right? I don't think that that 2021 01:13:06.700 --> 01:13:08.840 was particularly funny. I think it's just more 2022 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:11.680 telling that the audience, like members of the 2023 01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:14.760 audience found that like funny enough to do 2024 01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:18.740 like hyena -esque laughter. And that's my point. 2025 01:13:18.740 --> 01:13:20.080 It's liberal funny. It's liberal funny. It's liberal 2026 01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:22.520 funny where it's like we said this we 2027 01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:24.780 said a guy that we disagreed with was 2028 01:13:24.780 --> 01:13:26.180 the devil and deserved to die and it's 2029 01:13:26.180 --> 01:13:28.200 like well that's not really it's not really 2030 01:13:28.200 --> 01:13:30.300 funny that's just like you guys being like 2031 01:13:30.300 --> 01:13:35.480 sycophantic weirdos and like glorifying death like i 2032 01:13:35.480 --> 01:13:36.740 i would guess that this isn't the first 2033 01:13:36.740 --> 01:13:38.560 time dave schipel's made a joke about somebody 2034 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:42.520 recently deceased also uh but again like i 2035 01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:43.880 think it's important the comedians be able to 2036 01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:45.980 say whatever they want and be judged not 2037 01:13:45.980 --> 01:13:48.580 be not be canceled for what they say 2038 01:13:48.580 --> 01:13:51.940 but instead not get the views because what 2039 01:13:51.940 --> 01:13:54.300 they said wasn't funny. I think there should 2040 01:13:54.300 --> 01:13:56.140 be a free market in comedy, and that 2041 01:13:56.140 --> 01:13:57.280 is comedy is one of the places where 2042 01:13:57.280 --> 01:14:00.780 you should absolutely be a free speech absolutist. 2043 01:14:00.780 --> 01:14:02.420 Like you, because you need to have that. 2044 01:14:02.420 --> 01:14:04.580 You need the function of the court jester. 2045 01:14:04.580 --> 01:14:05.780 Like that was the function of the court 2046 01:14:05.780 --> 01:14:07.440 jester was to be able to say the 2047 01:14:07.440 --> 01:14:10.060 things to not beheaded for making the jokes 2048 01:14:10.060 --> 01:14:12.060 about the king that everybody knew were true, 2049 01:14:12.060 --> 01:14:13.400 but nobody else could say because they get 2050 01:14:13.400 --> 01:14:15.480 their fucking head chopped off. But the jester's 2051 01:14:15.480 --> 01:14:17.140 like, and the king has a tiny penis, 2052 01:14:17.140 --> 01:14:19.320 ha ha! And like, you know, something about 2053 01:14:19.320 --> 01:14:22.260 taxing people. too much, whatever. Point being, I 2054 01:14:22.260 --> 01:14:23.720 don't think that was funny. I think Dave 2055 01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:24.580 Schipel can do a hell of a lot 2056 01:14:24.580 --> 01:14:27.020 better. But I support his right to say 2057 01:14:27.020 --> 01:14:28.540 it because I think that we need free 2058 01:14:28.540 --> 01:14:29.840 speech, and I think we need free speech 2059 01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:31.480 in comedy more so than anywhere. And I 2060 01:14:31.480 --> 01:14:33.360 think that people will either, they will either 2061 01:14:33.360 --> 01:14:35.980 favor you with

their views or they will 2062 01:14:35.980 --> 01:14:37.760 not, depending on whether or not the thing 2063 01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:40.500 that you said was actually funny or not, 2064 01:14:40.500 --> 01:14:42.620 which I don't think that particularly was again. 2065 01:14:42.620 --> 01:14:44.140 But, Buck Dave, I support your right to 2066 01:14:44.140 --> 01:14:47.680 say it. Beauty. Brandon. End of mini rant. 2067 01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:49.060 Yeah, and these are great thoughts by both 2068 01:14:49.060 --> 01:14:51.120 you guys. try to come from a different 2069 01:14:51.120 --> 01:14:53.000 angle with it a little bit. I feel 2070 01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:54.540 like the zoomers are coming back, and you 2071 01:14:54.540 --> 01:14:56.340 know, obviously Joe can speak to that more, 2072 01:14:56.340 --> 01:14:58.640 but just, you know, back to life, you 2073 01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:01.540 know, where we, unfortunately, there's clowns here in 2074 01:15:01.540 --> 01:15:03.540 Michigan, you know, Joe, what happened, obviously in 2075 01:15:03.540 --> 01:15:05.380 Massachusetts with a bunch of women cackling around 2076 01:15:05.380 --> 01:15:06.700 like, yeah, we can kill children up to 2077 01:15:06.700 --> 01:15:07.920 the day of birth, you know, stuff like 2078 01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:10.200 that. I don't think the zoomers are really 2079 01:15:10.200 --> 01:15:12.020 falling for that stuff anymore. And that's where 2080 01:15:12.020 --> 01:15:13.680 like that kind of comedy, those kind of 2081 01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:14.760 things, even though they have the right to 2082 01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:15.760 say it and they should be able to 2083 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:17.980 say, it's free speech. Like the free market, 2084 01:15:17.980 --> 01:15:20.960 you can stand to, to, to, you know, 2085 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:22.760 on the merits of what people said. But 2086 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:24.040 the younger generations, I just don't think are 2087 01:15:24.040 --> 01:15:25.460 putting up of this stuff anymore. And this 2088 01:15:25.460 --> 01:15:27.380 goes back to, and I'll throw Trump in 2089 01:15:27.380 --> 01:15:29.800 this, too. This is where the Trump stick, 2090 01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:30.860 some of, some of what he does is 2091 01:15:30.860 --> 01:15:31.980 getting old now. And this is what you 2092 01:15:31.980 --> 01:15:33.500 saw with the election of what's happening. I 2093 01:15:33.500 --> 01:15:34.660 think there's a time in place for it. 2094 01:15:34.660 --> 01:15:36.400 The last 10 years, 12 years needed it. 2095 01:15:36.400 --> 01:15:38.560 We talked about Chappelle needed it, going against 2096 01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:40.980 wokeism, all that. But we're now, we're progressing 2097 01:15:40.980 --> 01:15:43.220 to a level of consciousness with society of 2098 01:15:43.220 --> 01:15:45.280 like, okay, going back to the Fuente stuff. 2099 01:15:45.280 --> 01:15:47.480 We need the truth of Fuentes that we 2100 01:15:47.480 --> 01:15:49.300 said on Friday and the empathy of the 2101 01:15:49.300 --> 01:15:50.760 left. You need to be able to marry 2102 01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:52.940 those two things together, and that's like the 2103 01:15:52.940 --> 01:15:55.460 way forward. Whoever can do that and thread 2104 01:15:55.460 --> 01:15:57.560 that needle, like Charlie did. And that's why 2105 01:15:57.560 --> 01:15:59.480 he had to be taken out by the 2106 01:15:59.480 --> 01:16:01.180 evil one, right? Like, that was, he was 2107 01:16:01.180 --> 01:16:03.260 such an affront to what the evil one 2108 01:16:03.260 --> 01:16:05.840 wanted, that, you know, marrying those two things 2109 01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:08.900 of truth and reality and love together that 2110 01:16:08.900 --> 01:16:11.120 he had to be taken out. So they, 2111 01:16:11.120 --> 01:16:12.260 you know, some another day on one of 2112 01:16:12.260 --> 01:16:13.300 the podcasts on the left side, we need 2113 01:16:13.300 --> 01:16:14.700 to dig up Charlie and do it all 2114 01:16:14.700 --> 01:16:17.200 over again. Then you had Trump, I think 2115 01:16:17.200 --> 01:16:19.080 it was a 60 minutes thing saying that, 2116 01:16:19.080 --> 01:16:20.260 yeah, I'm always going hate some of my 2117 01:16:20.260 --> 01:16:23.340 enemies. Unfortunately, that's not the way of Christ. 2118 01:16:23.340 --> 01:16:25.260 Now, again, I believe in just war theory, 2119 01:16:25.260 --> 01:16:26.400 all this stuff, but we do need to 2120 01:16:26.400 --> 01:16:29.300 get to this next echelon of justice, whether 2121 01:16:29.300 --> 01:16:31.960 it's actual justice, Nuremberg trials for COVID and 2122 01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:33.140 some of the things that happen, but also 2123 01:16:33.140 --> 01:16:35.420 a forgiveness state, too, because we're coming to 2124 01:16:35.420 --> 01:16:37.340 an inflection point, again, like we talked about 2125 01:16:37.340 --> 01:16:38.460 the other day of the Civil War and 2126 01:16:38.460 --> 01:16:40.040 the guy getting beat under his, under his 2127 01:16:40.040 --> 01:16:42.680 desk to death almost, and we're coming to 2128 01:16:42.680 --> 01:16:44.140 the inflection point where both sides, we've got 2129 01:16:44.140 --> 01:16:45.780 to kill Elon Musk, Trump's, you know, they're 2130 01:16:45.780 --> 01:16:47.700 going to go after Trump, is these worlds 2131 01:16:47.700 --> 01:16:50.560 where we have to find. some middle ground 2132 01:16:50.560 --> 01:16:52.040 going forward or else we won't make it. 2133 01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:53.740 We literally will kill ourselves and we won't 2134 01:16:53.740 --> 01:16:55.280 make it. But I do have a lot 2135 01:16:55.280 --> 01:16:56.900 of faith in the younger generations. I don't 2136 01:16:56.900 --> 01:16:57.860 think they're going to be putting up with 2137 01:16:57.860 --> 01:16:59.940 this. The under 40 crowd, under 45, want 2138 01:16:59.940 --> 01:17:02.740 transparency. They're sick of the nonsense. And so 2139 01:17:02.740 -->

01:17:04.680 I'm very bullish on the future of what's 2140 01:17:04.680 --> 01:17:07.180 going on. And the last thing I'll say, 2141 01:17:07.180 --> 01:17:09.380 too, is the people that are more ops, 2142 01:17:09.380 --> 01:17:11.360 and we mentioned this again about Fuentes being 2143 01:17:11.360 --> 01:17:13.920 an op potentially on Friday. But the people 2144 01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:15.460 that aren't offering solutions, again, I want to 2145 01:17:15.460 --> 01:17:18.540 just reiterate that. So important. You have a 2146 01:17:18.540 --> 01:17:20.880 lot of the Candace, the Tucker, crowd, you've 2147 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:22.140 got to be very careful. Because even though 2148 01:17:22.140 --> 01:17:23.740 they're pinpointing truth a lot of time, they're 2149 01:17:23.740 --> 01:17:25.940 sprinkling things with truth, they don't provide a 2150 01:17:25.940 --> 01:17:27.180 lot of solutions. You've got to be very 2151 01:17:27.180 --> 01:17:29.460 careful with those people. Not to say that, 2152 01:17:29.460 --> 01:17:31.280 you know, we all get things wrong at 2153 01:17:31.280 --> 01:17:33.380 times, but when they're never providing real solutions 2154 01:17:33.380 --> 01:17:35.040 and it's just, it's that person's fault, that 2155 01:17:35.040 --> 01:17:36.940 person's fault, you've got to be very careful. 2156 01:17:36.940 --> 01:17:38.520 And that's to me, one of those dividing 2157 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:40.380 lines of how you kind of see where 2158 01:17:40.380 --> 01:17:42.300 is this person really on my side or 2159 01:17:42.300 --> 01:17:43.520 not, are they around the side of truth 2160 01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:45.320 and in love, or are they going a 2161 01:17:45.320 --> 01:17:47.980 different direction and being, you know, persuaded by 2162 01:17:47.980 --> 01:17:50.460 some other, you know, darker entity out there. 2163 01:17:50.460 --> 01:17:54.760 So, great choice. Yeah, we've got 10 minutes. 2164 01:17:54.760 --> 01:17:58.140 I can go deep here. Listen, vote with 2165 01:17:58.140 --> 01:17:59.560 your eyes, vote with your eyes, vote with 2166 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:01.460 your wallet, vote with your feet. Chappelle is 2167 01:18:01.460 --> 01:18:03.760 crossing a line in my view there for 2168 01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.560 people who have, you know, a reasonable expectation 2169 01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.900 of seeing a comedy, the comedy act say 2170 01:18:09.900 --> 01:18:11.680 some funny stuff. I'm with Walker. You can 2171 01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:13.140 say whatever you want, but it's my right 2172 01:18:13.140 --> 01:18:15.260 as well to not show up. And I 2173 01:18:15.260 --> 01:18:17.520 hope other people think about that same way. 2174 01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:19.260 No, fair enough. I completely agree. Like, killing 2175 01:18:19.260 --> 01:18:20.400 him softly. And for what it's worth, we're 2176 01:18:20.400 --> 01:18:22.680 like amazing specials. I think Dave Chabelle is 2177 01:18:22.680 --> 01:18:24.620 usually

absolutely hilarious. I think there's just a 2178 01:18:24.620 --> 01:18:25.840 miss. You're going to miss at some point 2179 01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:26.900 in times. I bet she had some bad 2180 01:18:26.900 --> 01:18:28.620 data, too. Also, he's like one degree of 2181 01:18:28.620 --> 01:18:30.740 separation away from Fuentes because he was hanging 2182 01:18:30.740 --> 01:18:32.420 out with Kanye. And I'm not sure between 2183 01:18:32.420 --> 01:18:34.780 Kanye and Charlie, who's maybe a better public 2184 01:18:34.780 --> 01:18:36.520 speaker, maybe somebody you'd want to be potentially 2185 01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:38.680 going after. But regardless, it's fun. So it 2186 01:18:38.680 --> 01:18:40.480 was a great conversation. I've had a wonderful 2187 01:18:40.480 --> 01:18:42.300 time tonight. Ben was not with us tonight. 2188 01:18:42.300 --> 01:18:43.300 Do you know where he will be? He 2189 01:18:43.300 --> 01:18:44.500 will be at the sovereign summit as I 2190 01:18:44.500 --> 01:18:45.800 go ahead and cover up the gentleman on 2191 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:47.540 the right hand on the screen. We've got 2192 01:18:47.540 --> 01:18:50.040 the Sovereign Summit down in Miami from February 2193 01:18:50.040 --> 01:18:52.060 4th to 7th. Joey, you'll be happy to 2194 01:18:52.060 --> 01:18:53.180 know that Sailor's going to be there if 2195 01:18:53.180 --> 01:18:54.120 you want to go ahead and tell him 2196 01:18:54.120 --> 01:18:56.000 that he should resign or thank him at 2197 01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.040 that point in time. I have absolutely no 2198 01:18:58.040 --> 01:19:01.040 idea. Guys, this has been absolutely fantastic. I 2199 01:19:01.040 --> 01:19:03.300 am Nathan. This is Joey Walker, Brandon, and 2200 01:19:03.300 --> 01:19:08.100 Joe, and this was Bitcast. Later, guys. You 2201 01:19:08.100 --> 01:19:09.800 know the world is heading down a dark 2202 01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:14.200 path. Online censorship, Central Bank digital currencies, a 2203 01:19:14.200 --> 01:19:17.200 complete loss of privacy, and it's only accelerated. 2204 01:19:17.200 --> 01:19:19.500 Most people are falling behind with the latest 2205 01:19:19.500 --> 01:19:22.600 technology, and those that aren't are sacrificing their 2206 01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:25.120 data, their control, and their dignity just to 2207 01:19:25.120 --> 01:19:28.940 keep up. That doesn't have to be you. 2208 01:19:28.940 --> 01:19:31.160 Here, you'll have everything you need to break 2209 01:19:31.160 --> 01:19:33.880 free. Over the past decade, I've helped 20 2210 01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:36.360 million people take control of their money, their 2211 01:19:36.360 --> 01:19:39.160 data, and their digital lives. Now, I'm bringing 2212 01:19:39.160 --> 01:19:42.360 everything I've learned to one place. Sovereign Sessions 2213 01:19:42.360 --> 01:19:44.840 is your home to learn, master, and live 2214 01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:49.680 freedom tech. Bitcoin, AI. private communications, self -hosted 2215 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:52.420 tools, everything. Each week, I'll walk you through 2216 01:19:52.420 --> 01:19:55.200 step by step with the most critical tools 2217 01:19:55.200 --> 01:19:57.720 that put you back in charge. Don't ask 2218 01:19:57.720 --> 01:20:03.060 permission, take control. Welcome to the Sovereign Sessions.