Full Transcript for Andre Agassi Part Two - Image Is Everything

--> 00:04:27.959 Remember, we would get people that would be like, when 75 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.279 are you guys coming out to Australia And we would 76 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.160 be like, do you have any clue how expensive that is? Yeah, 77 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:36.360 we are not going to sell the tickets that you 78 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.759 think we're going to sell. It's going to be a 79 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:40.399 two hundred and forty dollars show. 80 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:43.279 Yeah, we toyed around with the idea at one point, 81 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:46.519 but oh man, that would take a lot more support financially. 82 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.639 The flights alone was like seventeen hundred dollars at the 83 00:04:49.639 --> 00:04:50.319 time or something. 84 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:52.560 Yeah, it was really bad time. So we could get 85 00:04:52.600 --> 00:04:54.560 over there and probably break even. 86 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.839 Make eighty dollars a show because everybody else like who. 87 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:03.680 Yeah, exactly. So by nineteen eighty eight, people loved andre 88 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:07.279 Agassi even though he hasn't won any tournaments, because Jeff 89 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:08.600 he had style. 90 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:14.079 Kennis does that sometimes, Yes, Kennis is just like you 91 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:17.399 get your Augusti's and your corner Coova's where you're like, look, 92 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:20.639 I'm not saying that they're the greatest. I'm saying a 93 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:22.319 lot of people are masturbating to this person. 94 00:05:22.639 --> 00:05:28.439 Yeah, corner Kova especially, she was not a great tennis player. 95 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:30.560 I mean, she was good, but I don't think she 96 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.480 won any majors. And I'm okay with that. I feel 97 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:38.319 like Maria Sharapova wrongly gets lumped in with that category 98 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:41.040 sometimes because Sharapova won a bunch of fucking manages. Did 99 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:44.879 she have like a brutal serve? Yeah, Sharpovo was great, 100 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:48.040 she was really great, And now she's on shark Tank. 101 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:54.480 Sometimes Maria Sharkatova. Now it's Sharapova, Jeff, it's Shara Tank. 102 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:59.439 Oh come on, damn it, Charro Tank. You don't even 103 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:04.399 like so. Agassy had all this style Jeff so much 104 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:07.360 so that fans started dressing like him. And if you 105 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:10.120 were dressing like Agassy in nineteen eighty eight, that means 106 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:14.680 you were wearing denim booty shorts. Hell. Yeah, those against 107 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:19.439 all odds are what Andre Agassi wore while playing professional 108 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:20.560 tennis for a living. 109 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:23.839 That feels like against no odds. Think about the freedom 110 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:25.399 you get in those things, but. 111 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.720 Really, like jeans, they're so restrictive. 112 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.759 I feel like there's gonna be some rashes. Yeah, although 113 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:34.040 he is wearing little bike shorts under there, right. 114 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:37.680 I think so? And these he didn't just like grab 115 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:40.759 a pair of five oh ones and cut them off 116 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:44.399 and wear biker shorts under him. These were like Nike 117 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:50.920 denim shorts, Nike. Why'd you stop Nike jorts? Bring it back, Nike. 118 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:56.240 So I'm guessing they probably had some air of elasticity 119 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:56.959 to them. 120 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:59.560 Wouldn't it have been great if they convinced Jordan to 121 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:00.399 also that. 122 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:04.800 Except the big ass baggy ones that he always wore. 123 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.639 That's what the movie Air was about, was jean shorts. 124 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:09.920 And there's a guy like stitching up a perfect pair 125 00:07:09.959 --> 00:07:11.079 of jean shorts. 126 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:12.480 Big ass parrot jinkos. 127 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:15.120 You can't wear denim on the court. We'll pay the fine. 128 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.399 We'll pay the fine. We got to get these gene 129 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:20.480 shorts out onto the streets. God, that movie would have 130 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:21.439 been so much better. 131 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.160 Yeah, if it was just about the bulls wanting to 132 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:28.360 wear Canadian tuxedos on the court fulld like a tightly 133 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:29.680 buttoned denim shirt. 134 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.439 Yeah, but it's like a sleeveless Scottie Pippen. 135 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:41.079 Yeah, we were good denim. Oh Scottie Pippin. He's crazy, Pip. 136 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:44.360 And you have a drinking problem. He shirt does. And 137 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:48.199 that problem is that we're not buying his whiskey whatever 138 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.560 the hell he was selling that morning on. 139 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.199 First It is eight am in Chicago right now. 140 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:58.879 What's craziest about Agasy wearing these little denim shorts is 141 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:03.240 it seems like they were Nike's idea because he first 142 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:07.879 started wearing them while playing the Nike International Challenge tournament 143 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:12.519 in nineteen eighty seven. And I've mentioned this on episodes before, 144 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:16.120 but when you're sponsored by a company like Nike and 145 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:19.399 you're a tennis player, when you get to a major 146 00:08:19.439 -->

00:08:22.240 event or just a big tournament, not even just majors, 147 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:24.720 they'll have like a room or hotel suite or a 148 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:27.519 house set up where all the players who they sponsor 149 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.879 can just come and get whatever gear they want to 150 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.000 wear for that tournament. And he was sponsored by Nike 151 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:37.279 at the time, making fast food money, like twenty thousand 152 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.480 dollars a year. Granted it's eighties money, but that's still 153 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:42.679 not a ton. Yeah, he's not Andrea. 154 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:44.679 I goes see the way we know him yet, right, 155 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:47.960 you know, not like showe Aotani with that New Balance money. 156 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:48.559 Hey you. 157 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:53.279 Every time I hear hey you, I'm like, Oh, what 158 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:56.200 athlete who barely speaks in public am I about to 159 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.240 see on my TV screen? Is it gonna be Otani? 160 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:03.000 Is it gonna be Kawhi? Leonard Sidney McLoughlin. 161 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.159 It is wild to me by the way that New 162 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:10.120 Balance got Otani. I know, I'm like, what was your budget? 163 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:11.039 That? Like? 164 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.399 New Balance Baseball is making a big push. 165 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.840 He's just a big Jack Harlowe fan. That's how they 166 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:18.320 got him. 167 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.320 Yeah, this is very common. They'll like giveaway stuff. It 168 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:23.840 happens often. There was like an episode of The Sopranos 169 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:28.240 that really like covered that specific thing where Christopher was 170 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:31.039 with what Ben Kingsley or something, and he was looking around. 171 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:32.960 He's like, you guys get all this free stuff and 172 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:34.919 you don't need it. They did. They just want the 173 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:40.080 name out there. Yeah, And also sponsored by Nike was 174 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:45.600 John McEnroe. Johnny McEnroe kid and Agasi and McEnroe show 175 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:50.159 up at this Nike suite at the same time, and 176 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:53.039 McEnroe is the bigger talent, he's the bigger name, so 177 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.960 he gets to pick first. And he sees these denim 178 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:58.639 shorts on the bed and picks them up and it's like, 179 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:02.360 you've got to be kidding me and throws them back 180 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:04.360 onto the bed. Are you blind? You want me to 181 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:08.039 put on these gene shorts? And he throws them on 182 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:12.320 the bed in disgust, and Andre Agassi's like, oh,

what 183 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:14.320 are those? 184 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:17.080 He's like, let me just hold on to these for you, John, 185 00:10:17.080 --> 00:10:18.240 in case you want them. 186 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.919 He's like, let me just slip those into my pocket. 187 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:21.720 They're small enough. 188 00:10:21.720 --> 00:10:25.440 They shoplifted them at the free event, dro you can 189 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:25.919 have them. 190 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:30.519 So yeah, he grabs these shorts and he starts wearing 191 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:34.799 them for years and years and years afterwards in matches, 192 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.639 and the media starts honing in on this and saying 193 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:41.000 he's trying to stand out. 194 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:44.639 Okay, sure, Oh, a famous person is trying to stand out. 195 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:48.159 Yeah, go figures me. This is a quote from Andrea 196 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:51.679 Agassy from his book. In fact, I'm trying to hide, 197 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.360 they say, I'm trying to change the game. In fact, 198 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:58.000 I'm trying to prevent the game from changing me. They 199 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:00.600 call me a rebel, but I have no interest in 200 00:11:00.679 --> 00:11:04.480 being a rebel. I'm only conducting an everyday run of 201 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:06.440 the mill teenage rebellion. 202 00:11:06.639 --> 00:11:10.600 It seems contradictory. It does not trying to be a rebel. 203 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:11.639 I'm just rebelling. 204 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:15.840 There are a few moments in this where it's a 205 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:20.039 little contradictory in that way, But what he's saying also 206 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:23.519 sort of makes sense. He's eighteen, Yeah, he's not trying 207 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:26.519 to like shake up tennis. He's just an eighteen year 208 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:29.720 old kid who is trying to figure out who he is. 209 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:34.039 Also, who doesn't want to look interesting, who gives a 210 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:36.200 shit like It's sort of like in baseball with the 211 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:37.759 bat flip, when they're like. 212 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:42.279 You can't do that, you can't do that, you sure can, 213 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:46.159 you sure can, and you should. It's the end zone 214 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:48.879 celebration of baseball. I fucking love a batflip. 215 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.840 Yeah, but like the idea of like, how dare you 216 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:54.879 try to stand out in this field where standing out 217 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.440 would make you an infinitely more amount of money in 218 00:11:57.519 --> 00:11:58.799 longer lasting legacy. 219 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.759 How could you do such thing, and he was a 220 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:07.480 thing Tennis probably needed in that way, because tennis always 221

00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:13.080 struggles with not really appealing to the youths, and Andre 222 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.559 Agassy went a long way toward fixing that for at 223 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:19.919 least that period where he was very young and playing. 224 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:26.759 For some symmetry here, I oftentimes equate Agasy and jose Canseco, Yeah, 225 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:30.840 to be very very similar in their cultural impacts. And 226 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:34.080 oftentimes when you look at people like this and Dennis Rodman, like, 227 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.320 let's be one hundred percent honest, people, we've covered one 228 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:37.879 of the big things is like these are people that 229 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.960 stood out. These are people that in a way changed 230 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.519 the game that they were playing, And these were the 231 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.559 people that you remember seeing like all three of those people, 232 00:12:46.639 --> 00:12:49.480 Like I think of sunglasses when I think of those like, 233 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:52.639 which is weird, right, but like I picture them all 234 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:54.639 in the same pair of Oakley sunglasses. 235 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:56.799 Oh yeah, I don't know. 236 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:58.879 I don't know what the symmetry is there, but there 237 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:01.399 is something to be said about how similar these three 238 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:01.799 men are. 239 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:06.240 Yeah, And the thing about tennis not really appealing to 240 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:09.759 a younger crowd, I think the thing that keeps it 241 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:13.440 having at least some sort of relevance with the youth 242 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.480 is that you can be really young and still be 243 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:17.759 really great at tennis. 244 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:20.840 Yeah, you can have the reflexes and the speed and 245 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:23.440 the flexibility and the skill. 246 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:27.399 And I think Agacy might have been the first. But 247 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:31.720 that's kind of what's been keeping American tennis relevant this 248 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:36.159 whole time, is like young players, like especially obviously the 249 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:40.000 Williams sisters who dominated for decades, and. 250 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.600 By the way, they looked great the entire time. Yeah, 251 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.559 and nobody was like, they're trying to be flashy, right exactly. 252 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:47.480 Actually some people were like that racists. 253 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:50.120 I mean, Serena Williams wore that body suit that made 254 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.799 her look naked, and people were like, no, the cat suit. Yeah, yeah, 255 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.519 it's awesome. Yeah, it was great. It's like, I bet 256 00:13:57.519

--> 00:14:00.399 that is what she looks like, naked, just fucking covered 257 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:02.120 in Rhyanstone's. 258 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:07.519 Yeah, just fully rhyan stoned. She would shimmer, yeah, oh absolutely, yeah, 259 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:08.080 oh yeah. 260 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:12.159 And now Cocoa Golf, she's nineteen in just one the 261 00:14:12.279 --> 00:14:16.399 US Open has just been voted the most marketable US 262 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.279 tennis player out there. It's like, no shit, she's sponsored 263 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:21.080 by New Balance, of course she's marketable. 264 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:25.639 Contradictorily, look at the dip that golf made once we 265 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:29.759 lost Tiger Yeah, because remember golf was like a bunch 266 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:33.159 of arnold Palmers and then you got like one dirt 267 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:36.600 bag to appeal to the Arkansas violence community. 268 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:37.039 Yep. 269 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.240 And then finally they were like, well what about like 270 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:41.679 a young, dominant man of color. 271 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:43.360 And then all of a sudden, golf exploded. 272 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:48.159 Yeah, and you know, Tiger Woods stopped being the goat 273 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:51.480 or whatever, and people don't give a shit about golf anymore. 274 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:57.279 Yeah, golf never really capitalized on what Tiger Woods did 275 00:14:57.399 --> 00:14:59.320 for that sport. I feel like. 276 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:03.279 It did for a short time. It couldn't maintain it. Yeah, 277 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:06.960 there isn't anybody with that appeal because the best golfers 278 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:11.639 are either like dufuses like Phil Nicholson or run of 279 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.320 the mill young guys that all look the same. Yeah, 280 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:19.960 Like there is no standout character. Now, Tiger Woods didn't 281 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:22.919 exactly have a personality, but he appealed to the I 282 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:24.919 don't know if you've ever heard Tiger Woods talk, but 283 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:28.559 he is possibly the most boring person who has ever existed. 284 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:32.000 He sure is, he sure is, And he almost died 285 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:35.080 very close to where I lived at the time. Hell yeah, Yeah, 286 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.919 that famous car accident happened about five minutes from where 287 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:42.000 I lived at the time. So back to andre Agassi. 288 00:15:42.399 --> 00:15:46.600 His rebellion or lack thereof, whatever you want to call it, 289 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:51.559 super duper resonates with the public. They just love his shit. 290 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:56.559 Fans start showing up to matches wearing those denim shorts 291 00:15:56.600 --> 00:16:01.440 and that weird puffy mullet. It

has been happy Gilmore energy. 292 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:03.799 So when all the people are like, it's like a 293 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:06.000 god damn it, you people, it's a golf gay. 294 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:10.559 Like I bet. Andre Agassy was a very popular Halloween 295 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:13.600 costume in like eighty eight to ninety one. 296 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:17.279 Ish, Adam, I'm gonna peek behind the curtain real quick. 297 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.559 We are recording this on Halloween morning. Yes, I'm going 298 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.360 to make this costume right now. I think you could 299 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:25.759 eighties Agasy. 300 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.480 Yeah, I mean, where are you gonna find some denim 301 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:32.360 booty shorts, Adam, I'm wearing some already. All I need 302 00:16:32.440 --> 00:16:35.000 is the wig. Everything else should be pretty easy. And 303 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.559 so time for a devastating quote. This is Andrea Agassy. 304 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:41.279 I can't imagine all these people trying to be like 305 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:46.159 andre Agassy since I don't want to be andre Agassy. Oh, 306 00:16:46.159 --> 00:16:46.840 we get it. 307 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:51.840 Oh my god, Andre, we get it. You're not happy. 308 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:55.039 He hates tennis, man, he got forced into it. He 309 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:57.799 hates himself. I mean there is something to be said 310 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:03.039 for stuff like this. I mean I can't sympathize, but 311 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:05.799 no one wants to be doing shit with their lives 312 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:09.200 that they don't want to do. And I feel like 313 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.519 he might be playing it up a little bit in 314 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:16.279 this book, but maybe a little. He did seem genuinely unhappy. 315 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:18.160 Yeah, I don't know, and stuff like that. 316 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:19.440 It is. 317 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:21.119 It is definitely one of those things where it's like 318 00:17:21.160 --> 00:17:22.839 genuinely unhappy and it's like, I don't. 319 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:24.240 Know, man, make your fuck you money and then go 320 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:27.000 do whatever you want. Yeah. So I'm always like I've 321 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:28.200 done this on stage before. 322 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:29.960 But like when you ever see somebody who's seven feet 323 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:33.200 tall and they don't even attempt to play basketball, I'm like, 324 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:35.400 do you not understand what's happening right now? 325 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:35.960 Yeah? 326 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:39.640 Figure it out, make eight million dollars in two years, 327 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:43.119 and then play video games for the rest of your life. Yeah, Like, 328 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.440 put a little effort in and your life will be 329 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:47.960 the greatest life and then you will die at fifty five. 330 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:50.839 Yeah, but you also have to remember, Andre Agassi is 331 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.279 eighteen at this point, little maybe in his life, and 332 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:56.440 he talks a lot in this section of the book 333 00:17:56.440 --> 00:18:00.000 about how he was not only an eighteen year old 334 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:03.000 trying to figure out who he was, but he was 335 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:05.880 having to do it on a way bigger stage. Yeah 336 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:09.920 than most teens will ever have to not me though, correct, 337 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:12.359 Like you've been in the limelight this whole time. 338 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:15.240 Yeah, I was a bigger name than Agacy when Agassy 339 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:18.960 was happening. Oh absolutely, But he was an iconoclast, which 340 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:22.279 ended up becoming an icon, which is the irony that 341 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:23.319 that word exists in. 342 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.240 I guess. Yeah, he starts getting labeled a punk rocker 343 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:30.160 because of his hair, and meanwhile he's like, my favorite 344 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:34.359 musicians are Barry Manilow and Richard Marx. Richard Marx is 345 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.160 punk ash shit. Yeah. I wonder if Richard Marx is 346 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.319 still one of his favorite musicians, because then it becomes 347 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:43.279 cool again, because in eighty six, if you liked Richard Marx, 348 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:47.039 you were just lame, even though looking back those songs 349 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:50.440 are all bangers, but like, if you're one of those 350 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.720 people who was like, no, you don't get it. Richard 351 00:18:52.720 --> 00:18:55.319 Mark's best album actually came out in two thousand and six. 352 00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:57.759 Let's talk about it, like, I want to talk to 353 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.480 that person that's just been on the Richard Mark train 354 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:01.559 this whole fucking time. 355 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:04.960 I had a guy in college that was like almost 356 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:06.559 he was like the guy that lived in the dorm 357 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:08.119 room next door, and like the first thing, He's like, 358 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.279 you like warrens Evon And I was like I'm sorry, 359 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.319 and I'm like, you mean like were Wolves of London. 360 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:14.720 He's like, yeah, but that's not even close. 361 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.160 You really got to listen to this album, and I 362 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:18.400 was like, I don't want to do this. 363 00:19:18.759 --> 00:19:21.920 Do you listen to Warren's Evon h were Wolves of London? Yeah. 364 00:19:21.960 --> 00:19:24.480 I've never gotten into him, but

his cover. 365 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:26.480 Of Back in the High Life Again is one of 366 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:30.240 the most upsetting things you could possibly listen to because 367 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:32.839 he recorded it purposefully right before he died. 368 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:37.000 Yeah, and it is very depressing. There's a documentary about 369 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:40.680 him recording that album and woof it is rough. 370 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:41.519 Yeah. 371 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:45.160 So the big struggle though at this point with andre 372 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.960 Agassi image wise, is that he is already losing his hair. 373 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.400 He wears it really long and puffy to conceal the 374 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:56.440 fact that only a few people know about at this time, 375 00:19:56.640 --> 00:19:58.960 which is that it's going that happens. 376 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.319 Man's got a lot of testosterone in that body. 377 00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:04.599 And this is the point where before he's even twenty 378 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:09.680 years old, Andre Agassi starts wearing a wig even when 379 00:20:09.880 --> 00:20:11.319 he's playing tennis. 380 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:15.000 Can't be good, right, Yeah, that's gotta be rough. 381 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:20.680 Like losing your hair at that age alone would be 382 00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:23.880 pretty wild, but when you couple it with the fact 383 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:27.640 that everyone is not only looking at everything you do, 384 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.680 but looking at you as this like sort of style 385 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:32.799 icon a little bit. 386 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:36.079 Yeah, Meanwhile, the reason you're an icon is that you 387 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.160 have to perform at a high level at a sport 388 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:40.279 and you still have to worry about your fucking wig 389 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:40.920 falling off. 390 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:46.480 Yeah, And meanwhile, the tennis press is just wholeheartedly convinced 391 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:50.119 that his high ranking on the tour despite never having 392 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.440 won a major, is some sort of conspiracy meant to 393 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:57.240 capitalize on his image. Do you think there's any credence 394 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:01.640 to that. No, Tennis is pretty straightforward how their rankings work. 395 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:04.519 It's a point system, and it's kind of hard to 396 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.680 cheat a point system. You know, Well, just just ask 397 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.960 Tyson Fury about that. That's true. He won the fight. 398 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:14.200 I know, it's just I hate that it went to 399 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:15.400 a draw. I know. 400 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:18.000 I will just add that he won the fight and 401 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.640 in Ghana won the hearts and minds of America, and

402 00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:22.200 that is very rocky. 403 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.119 Yeah, it had a rocky ending. It sure did so, 404 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:31.200 despite being hated on relentlessly by the sports media. Advertisers 405 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:36.319 are beating Andre Agassy's door down. They're beating Andre Agassy off. 406 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:39.160 Probably that too. You won a free camera, You won 407 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:44.200 a free camera. To that end, one of his corporate sponsors, 408 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:48.119 Cannon the Camera Company, schedules a series of photo shoots 409 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.640 in mid nineteen eighty nine. Shoot happens at a bunch 410 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.480 of locations, but the last one is at a Vegas 411 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:58.599 country club. The director puts Andre in a white Miami 412 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.799 Vice looking suit, has them drive up in a white Lamborghini, 413 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:04.559 and then tells him to step out of the car, 414 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:08.640 turn to the camera, lower his glasses and say image 415 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:12.039 is everything, and hey, that's the commercial we played at 416 00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:14.799 the beginning in the cold open. Can you believe that? 417 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.640 Go figure, You couldn't see it, but you could hear it. 418 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:19.400 You heard it. 419 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:21.599 You got that, you heard the words images everything, right, 420 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.880 It's the opposite of Sprite exactly, which I think that 421 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:27.000 was a was that Do you think that was a 422 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:30.960 counteraction to that concept the image is nothing, thirst is everything. 423 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.039 It wouldn't surprise me. When did they start with that. 424 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:35.640 I think they started with that. 425 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:38.519 Well I don't know, because that was when Sprite pivoted 426 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:40.960 to the black community and they were like, we're going 427 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:43.480 to be the soda for the black community, and so 428 00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:45.359 that would have been at that would have been like 429 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.680 maybe like early two thousands, like late nineties, early two thousands, 430 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:49.160 So maybe not. 431 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:52.880 Maybe it's a coincidence. And so immediately upon that commercial airing, 432 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:59.599 that slogan images everything just becomes synonymous with Andre Agasy. 433 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:03.880 It's a very synonymous with the eighties. Yeah, you knows, 434 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:06.359 such the tail end of nineteen eighty nine, you know 435 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:09.200 of the decade. And yet when you look at that, 436 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:12.680 you know that is a perfect

summary of that decade. 437 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:17.720 Oh absolutely, And yeah, Andrea Agassy by saying that in 438 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:21.039 that commercial kind of made himself the face of that. 439 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:25.000 The problem is, as time goes on, people start to 440 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:30.640 consider the images everything line more as a thing. Andrea 441 00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:34.519 Agassy said about himself as opposed to something a director 442 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:37.880 told him to say yeah, I mean you're the one 443 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:40.960 saying it. Yeah, And there's a reason they asked him 444 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:41.519 to say that. 445 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.599 Yeah, that's that's not a big leap to connect him 446 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:46.079 to the words he said on camera. 447 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:50.079 And because he still hadn't won a major at this point, 448 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:53.839 the media sees is on this and starts claiming he 449 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:58.720 is all image and no substance. Fans start taunting him 450 00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:03.680 with images everything, taunts at matches, he's all sizzling o 451 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.039 steak right, all bark, no bite, and this is whether 452 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:10.440 he wins or loses. He's getting taunted like this, he 453 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:13.720 says in his book. At this point, the criticism started 454 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:16.839 changing him a little. He says, I developed an edge, 455 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:20.160 a mean streak. He's coming like a wrestling heel. 456 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:24.039 Yeah, He's like I became an Iraqi sympathizer, just like 457 00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:26.039 Sergeant Slaughter in nineteen ninety one. 458 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.359 The thing is that all just plays into the images 459 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.359 everything stuff too, because he like stops giving interviews, he 460 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:35.240 starts like lashing out at people. So now it's like 461 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:40.599 he's inadvertently playing into this like bad boy rebel image 462 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:44.480 that the media is pushing. He's like Frankenstein. He's like 463 00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:47.119 I'm a monster because you made me, Yeah, a little bit. 464 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:50.839 So the image is everything Era really comes to a head, 465 00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:55.839 get it because he wears a wig at the nineteen 466 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.519 ninety French Open for starters. He makes a bunch of 467 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.440 headlines just by wearing pink Hell yeah, dude at his 468 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:07.039 matches they were pink compression shorts biker shorts, if you will. 469 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:10.119 In the tennis world, that's the equivalent of Dennis Rodman 470 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:11.119 marrying himself. 471 00:25:11.359 --> 00:25:13.680 I mean at the time, kind of

isn't that. 472 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:15.559 So embarrassing to look at and be like to see 473 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.039 people like clutching their pearls at a color? 474 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.000 Yeah, and you still sort of see it. 475 00:25:20.039 --> 00:25:23.000 With Wimbledon, he should address like ravishing Rick Rude with 476 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:24.880 like his opponent's face on his crotch. 477 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.359 He's just wearing the pink shorts under his silly denim 478 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:32.880 shorts of course. Yeah. And so despite the outfit, he 479 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:37.559 dominates in the early rounds, including that famous win over 480 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:41.720 his nemesis Jim Courier, Take that, Jimbo. He also beats 481 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.960 Michael Chang, who he talks about in this book so 482 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:50.039 much and resents so much the fact that every time 483 00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:53.039 Michael Chang won, he would do that point at the 484 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:56.400 sky and thank Jesus thing, and andre Agassi was just 485 00:25:56.519 --> 00:25:59.880 really offended at the idea that Jesus would take side 486 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:04.319 in a tennis match. Yep, which is pretty fair. I think. 487 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:08.240 In the final, he makes it to the final of 488 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.880 this tournament, he faces a player named Andres Gomez, who 489 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:18.119 he'd already beaten just a few weeks earlier with a pipe, right, 490 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:21.640 with a lead pipe. Gomez is in his thirties and 491 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.119 on the verge of retirement. Agasy said he actually thought 492 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:29.480 he was retired. This is nineteen ninety thirties, right, which 493 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.160 is like being fifty eight now, right, And he said 494 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.640 he thought this guy had actually retired before he showed 495 00:26:36.720 --> 00:26:38.240 up at the French Open final. 496 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.000 The fucking Mummy is here, Jesus Christ. 497 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:46.279 So it stands to reason that andre Agassi and a 498 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:49.359 lot of other people were very much expecting that, Hey, 499 00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:51.799 this is when he's finally going to win that first major. 500 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:56.759 Except things go off the rails before the match even starts. 501 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.920 I'm guessing it's a tennis related maybe an injury. 502 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.240 Something got injured. There was some damage to something like 503 00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:07.440 a hamstring or like a a groin pull or something 504 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.440 What actually happened was, while he was taking a shower 505 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.400 the night before the match, his wig started to disintegrate. 506 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:20.680 Oh no, a

wig injury. It starts unraveling. He suspects 507 00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:24.079 he used like the wrong conditioner or something when washing it. 508 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:29.839 So he had a weave. Yes, yes, basically, and whatever 509 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.240 the case, the weaves starts coming undone in the shower, 510 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.440 just completely falling apart. He and a friend managed to 511 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.759 piece it back together, at which point said friend begins 512 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.920 a journey into the Paris night looking for bobby pins 513 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.720 to hold everything in place. Doesn't seem like that would 514 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:50.440 have been hard, right, It was actually pretty difficult. 515 00:27:50.759 --> 00:27:53.039 Is there not a set ends that he could have 516 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:53.960 gone to to find some? 517 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.440 He had a lot of trouble finding bobby pins. 518 00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.039 It's probably because they have a weird French name for it. 519 00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.200 Probably yeah, bobby pins, you mean. 520 00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.359 Yeah. And so they do finally find all the bobby 521 00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.200 pins they need and they decide it should hold just 522 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:14.839 fine as long as Agacy doesn't move too much, which 523 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.119 shouldn't be a problem. He's just got to get through 524 00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:18.880 a French Open final, that's all. 525 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.720 Yeah, just a tiny little hurdle after you went on 526 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.319 a mystic quest to get the twelve bobby pins of 527 00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.319 the Knights of the Round Table in Paris. 528 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.960 It was actually more than twenty bobby pins that it 529 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.119 took to hold this monstrosity in place. 530 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:38.319 The b fifty two's like, what's going on here? It'd 531 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.359 be so funny if you had like a big bee 532 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.480 fifty two's boufont hairdoo, and you. 533 00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.079 Know, he could have just played without a hair piece. 534 00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.519 But that'd be like us live streaming without hats. Not 535 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:53.000 gonna fucking happen. Bruh man, we like what we like. Yeah, 536 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.880 I removed my hat to see that I shaved my head, 537 00:28:57.400 --> 00:29:02.599 and I removed my hat to reveal I'm whoa. Here's 538 00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.960 a quote warming up before the match. I pray not 539 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.480 for a win, but for my hairpiece to stay on 540 00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.000 under normal circumstances. Playing in my first final of a 541 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.759 Grand Slam, I'd be tense, but my tenuous hairpiece has 542 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:19.400 me

catatonic. Whether or not it's slipping, I imagine that 543 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:23.240 it's slipping with every lunge, every leap. I picture it 544 00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.119 landing on the clay like a hawk. My father shot 545 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.880 from the sky. I can hear a gasp going up 546 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.119 from the crowd. I can picture millions of people suddenly 547 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.519 leaning closer to their TVs, turning to each other, and 548 00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:39.680 in dozens of languages and dialects, saying some version of 549 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:44.359 did andre Agassi's hair just fall off? That would have happened. 550 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:46.680 That's sure as shit would have happened. 551 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.000 But you like him describing that. I'm like, yeah, that 552 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.839 is terrifying. You should have just shaved your head that night. 553 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.319 Yeah, that would have been up there with like when 554 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.119 Millie Vanilli CD started skipping mm hmm. 555 00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:00.319 We would be talking about that forever instead to just 556 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:01.319 having read it in a book. 557 00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:06.799 And so he is so legitimately preoccupied with his wig 558 00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.039 falling off that he blows it and loses the match, 559 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:13.920 even though he was the obvious favorite. He's way younger 560 00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.519 than this guy, way more skilled. 561 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:18.640 Yeah, that was like when you'd see like somebody trying 562 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.160 to fight Hulk Hogan in two thousand and Hogan, like 563 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.799 the Rock versus Hulk Hogan or whatever, and like Hulk 564 00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:28.079 Hogan wins, and you're like, fine, sure, So. 565 00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:31.880 This does nothing to quell those claims that andre Agassi 566 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:33.440 is all substance. 567 00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.319 Yeah, not that he made it to the finals, mind, you. 568 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.119 Right, which again I've said it before that that is 569 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:43.119 how tennis works. You don't have to win majors. You 570 00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:44.960 don't even have to win tournaments all the time. If 571 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.160 you're just making it deep into every tournament, you're gonna 572 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:49.119 rank pretty well. 573 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.640 I'll add, by the way, that it's certainly not a 574 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.160 miscontributed phrase all style, those substances. When he lost to 575 00:30:57.200 --> 00:31:00.839 the match because of a fear of a losing win, yeah, 576 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:03.680 that does definitely lay credence to the all style, no 577 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.000 substance thing, because the style is what prevented the substance 578 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:07.720 from succeeding. 579 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.480 Yeah, and that's a thing he doesn't really touch on 580 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.319 in the book, which that is a good point. How 581 00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:16.119 could they say that I was all style, no substance. 582 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:17.920 The only reason I lost is because I was afraid, 583 00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:20.480 you know, my wig would come off. And it's like, 584 00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.799 I think that is, in a roundabout way, exactly what 585 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:24.319 they're saying. 586 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:28.160 Just a little bit, just a little bit what they're saying. 587 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.880 He also wasn't doing himself any favors in the all image, 588 00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:37.119 no substance argument with his stance on Wimbledon. He for 589 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:40.960 the first few years of his career from eighty eight 590 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.039 to nineteen ninety he refused to play at Wimbledon because 591 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.720 he didn't like that they have a dress code, which 592 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.680 at Wimbledon you have to wear all white. Just get 593 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.319 some white gene shorts, baby, And they were so strict 594 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.200 about it that for the longest time even women had 595 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.599 to wear white shorts. And I I think it just 596 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.400 changed last year where women were finally like, hey, what 597 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:05.720 about when we're on our period? 598 00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:10.039 Tradition can suck sometimes, yeah, And for years and years 599 00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.319 and years women asked that question and Wimbledon was like, oh, 600 00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:19.119 tragedy in it. Problem, And then finally last year Wimbledon 601 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.960 changed that. So now you watch Wimbledon, you're like, oh, 602 00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:25.000 sable lengths on her period, she's wearing green shorts. Look 603 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.440 at all these period shorts that are happening here. 604 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:31.119 I think it was more that just everyone started wearing 605 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:32.400 shorts that weren't white. 606 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.519 So then, yeah, maybe Wimbledon should accept the fact that 607 00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:37.039 maybe some things aren't necessary. 608 00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:39.680 Yeah, and that's absolutely one of them. 609 00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:43.680 I get tradition, but sometimes tradition is just like antiquated 610 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:44.200 and stupid. 611 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:44.839 Yeah. 612 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.880 Yeah, So that to anybody trying to sit down in 613 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:48.640 Fenway Park. 614 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.599 Yeah, I mean I think the biggest example of it

615 00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:56.079 in baseball is umpires. Like we have machines that do 616 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:59.319 what they do on the screen at the same time, 617 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.839 we can have the machines do it. It would be 618 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.839 way better anyway. Andrea Agassy he skips Wimbledon from eighty 619 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.839 eight to nineteen ninety because he doesn't like their dress code. 620 00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:11.880 It's like Wimbledon or gene shorts. 621 00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.920 He's like, I've made my choice, by the way again 622 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:17.599 on the all style, no substance thing. He won't go 623 00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:21.319 to Wimbledon because of their style rules, right, not their 624 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:22.640 substance rules, right. 625 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:25.559 So again not doing himself any favors. 626 00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.039 Andre, you might not be as heroic as you think 627 00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:29.839 about this stuff. 628 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:32.880 So his next major appearance is at the nineteen ninety 629 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.640 US Open, and in between those two matches he put 630 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.119 on ten pounds of muscle thanks to his new trainer, 631 00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:45.519 Gil Reyes Harry Bonds. If you see Gilrayes, Barry Bonds 632 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.440 would have to take steroids to get to gil Reyes's level, 633 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.839 Like really, yeah, he's a big dude. He sort of 634 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.599 acted as Andre Agassy's bodyguard also, but he was also 635 00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:58.599 like his strength and fitness coach. I feel like that 636 00:33:58.640 --> 00:33:59.599 might just be an assumption. 637 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:01.960 You see that guy, You're like, well, that's a bodyguard. 638 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:06.279 Obviously, that is absolutely an assumption that people made. And 639 00:34:06.279 --> 00:34:08.840 Andrea Agassy was like, no, he's both. 640 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:12.760 Is ten pounds of muscle necessarily the best thing to 641 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.800 do at that level of sport, because like in boxing, 642 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.320 putting on muscle is not the best thing in the 643 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.679 world because for obvious reasons, like the more muscle you 644 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:24.360 put on, the heavier arms are going to be, the 645 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:26.519 more tired you can get, the less flexibility you have. 646 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:29.639 It also depends on where you're starting from. Yeah, Andrea 647 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.880 Agassy was just a scrawny little kid, that is true. Yeah, 648 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.280 It's like when you see Victor Webbin Yama now it's like, yeah, 649 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.559 he's dominant, but he's gonna have to bulk up a 650 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.000 little bit. Yeah, and

get Dwight Howard shoulders. Yeah. If 651 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:44.199 you look at Yannis when he first entered the league 652 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:47.039 versus Yannis now, it's like that, it's like that kind 653 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.480 of bulk he's trying to put on and it seems 654 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:55.519 to help because he at the nineteen ninety US Open 655 00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.360 makes a deep run into the finals. He's going in 656 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:03.039 with new confidence on account of not having to wear 657 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:06.519 his hair piece anymore. Granted, he's still not playing bald. 658 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.800 He's just come up with a new camouflaging system that 659 00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:15.480 involves a thicker headband and really bright highlights. Hell yeah, 660 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:17.960 so again, he's not all image, Jeff. 661 00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:21.599 He's actually combing the hair over. This is a new 662 00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:22.719 thing that he came up with. 663 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.400 Unfortunately, though, he runs into an opponent who will end 664 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.599 up being so important to the Andrea Agassi story. 665 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:32.840 For the jealousy of all the hair that this man 666 00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:38.000 has all over his body. Yeah, all over the swarthiest 667 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.239 man we have seen in a very long time. 668 00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.679 Their rivalry will be an episode of its own in 669 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.800 the future, and that is Pete Sampress. 670 00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:50.400 Pete motherfucking Sampress, Mister Bridget Wilson. 671 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.800 He is the other last great American men's tennis player. 672 00:35:54.840 --> 00:35:57.920 But he was better. He was better, and he looked 673 00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:01.079 like a much huger nerd. Yeah, that's the thing. Agassy 674 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.880 got more attention on account of the denim shorts in 675 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.559 that crazy mullet. But Pete Sampras was the better player. 676 00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:12.079 Yes, and that's why he got to marry Bridget Wilson. 677 00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.639 I mean Andre Agassy did, alright. 678 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:17.480 He did Brooke Shields, man, I get it. 679 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.760 Brooks Shields, Barbara streisand as we will talk about soon, 680 00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:23.000 that was interesting. 681 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.760 Bridget Wilson was Sonia Blade in Mortal Kombat. Yeah, hit 682 00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:28.199 your shit together, Adam. 683 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:32.039 I forget what was Barbara Streisand in Mortal Kombat she 684 00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.960 was Scorpion Scorre. Yeah, yeah, I always forget. Get over here. 685 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.800 And andre Agassy had seen Sampress before this, but I 686 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:42.760 don't think they had played that much, and he just 687 00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:46.199 like didn't really respect him. He was like, eh, he's 688 00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:48.599 a young guy, he's not that great. I'll be fine. 689 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.880 And so he goes in with all this hair in place, 690 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:56.079 confidence knowing he's seen Sampress before and wasn't impressed. And 691 00:36:56.119 --> 00:37:00.920 Pete Sampress smokes that ass. He practically explodes him with 692 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:05.239 the tennis ball. He just fucking wrecks Andre Agassy at 693 00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:09.079 the nineteen ninety US Open. So still more style than 694 00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.280 substance is what people continue to say. 695 00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.119 Pete Sampras just wearing his little white suit with a 696 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:16.960 little white outfit. 697 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:20.559 He's wearing a whole suit he had come from work. Yeah, yeah, 698 00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:23.400 he came from his work as a bell guy. Yeah, 699 00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:26.559 which is why August he didn't take him seriously. So 700 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.880 his next major final is one that we've already sort 701 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.519 of talked about. That was the nineteen ninety one US 702 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:35.920 Open final against Jim Currier. He and Jim Currier had 703 00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:39.119 already had the falling out by this point over Nick 704 00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:43.559 Bolletieri sitting in Agassy's player's box and openly cheering for 705 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:47.039 him when those two met at a tournament. And this 706 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.719 is the point where andre Agassi's relationship with Nick Bolletieri 707 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.199 starts to change. Is the heel turned from Nick a 708 00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:59.719 little bit because they are playing this match and Agassy 709 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:03.480 is winning, I believe, And then there's a rain delay 710 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:07.320 and andre Agassi talks in the book about how he 711 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.719 just wanted Nick Boletieri to come in and just like 712 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.960 acknowledge what was happening. He's like, by this point, I 713 00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.480 wasn't even getting coaching from him, Like I didn't need coaching. 714 00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.679 I would just get like encouragement. And he says he 715 00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:25.280 was expecting something from Nick and instead he gets nothing. 716 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.159 This is a quote in this moment. It's not coaching 717 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:31.000 I need, but a show of humanity. You ain't getting 718 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:34.079 that from Nick Boletieri. Yeah, which is one of the 719 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.719 duties of any coach. I need some recognition of the 720 00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:41.519 adrenaline charged moment

in which I find myself. Is that 721 00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.960 too much to ask? Yes, yes, yes, it is too 722 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.079 much to ask from Nickpolitary. Absolutely, that is absolutely too 723 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:51.719 much to ask of Nick Boletieri. You will get a 724 00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:52.840 cot in a school. 725 00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.159 That is all you will get from Nickboletary. 726 00:38:55.880 --> 00:38:58.599 And so they come back out after this rain delay 727 00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:04.559 and Jim Curry wins. Jim Currier delivers. I get it 728 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:09.960 because his last name's Currier. Everybody, I am Boom fucking pop. 729 00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.599 Give me some gene shorts. That was an ace, That's 730 00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:17.480 what that was. Samprist is asked, and so that means 731 00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.119 another major has passed where Andre Agassy is considered to 732 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:27.559 be all style, no substance, And ironically enough, that finally 733 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:33.000 changes in nineteen ninety two when he finally decides, okay, 734 00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.239 I will wear all white and compete at Wimbledon, and 735 00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:41.119 that is where our next episode will start. 736 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.639 It's gonna go to a party in the Hampton's at Wimbledon. 737 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:45.639 Oh, there's gonna be some partying because We're going to 738 00:39:45.679 --> 00:39:49.079 talk about the streisand era on We Love a streisand 739 00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:52.159 Era the next episode. There is a point in history 740 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:57.880 where Andre Agassy dated Barber streisand Andre can me and 741 00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.960 I know people at home might be thinking, well, wait, 742 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.719 isn't Barbara streisand like ten or fifteen years older than 743 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.119 Andre Agassy. No, she's twenty eight years older than Andre Agassy. 744 00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:12.239 So it was an interesting relationship. It drew some comments 745 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:14.400 and some commentary, and we're going to talk about the 746 00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:19.280 streisand era next. Jeff, have you ever dated Barber streisand Ah, yes, 747 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.960 I did meeting. I'm a little bit younger, but it 748 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.079 was great. It was like wearing hot lavas. That's a 749 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.880 quote from Andrea Agasy about dating Barbara streisand that sounds 750 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.559 about right. Yeah. I'm excited to dive into that a 751 00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.840 little more on the next episode, but until then, I 752 00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:40.239 think we have wrapped this up. 753 00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:42.760 Let's wrap it up. You forgot there's a W in 754 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:43.559 the beginning of that word. 755 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:49.239 No, I was gonna starting we wrap this up. Yeah, Jeff, 756 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.320 thank you so much for being my co host on 757 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.960 this except for you, Jeff. No, what do we have 758 00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.400 to plug before we get out of here. Adam tod 759 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.960 Brown dot subsack dot com. Got that and uh oh 760 00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.519 you can check out. Uh I sell cards baseball cards 761 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:07.320 on eBay. You can check that out. If I remember 762 00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.559 the link you don't show dot link slash cards. Go 763 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:13.079 go buy some cards and use code on pops ten 764 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.480 at checkout to save ten percent. Jeff, what do you 765 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:18.119 got to plug? I got a new podcast coming out 766 00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:22.320 called gene Shorts Pod. Uh this is actually now? 767 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.880 I mean I have all Jeff has cool friends, UG 768 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:27.599 Fine with Kim Krawl, The Great Nerd with dray Alvarez. 769 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:30.199 All those available at patreon dot com Slash Jeff May 770 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.599 for early access to unsensed episodes with bonus content. Ug 771 00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.920 Fine isn't exclusive on the Patreon. I also open cards, 772 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.119 both with Adam on you don't even like sports cards, 773 00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:43.599 as well as I Must Break You. I do that 774 00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.760 on Wednesdays at my YouTube which is at Hey there, 775 00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.440 Jeff Row just like all the social media. If you 776 00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:49.519 want to see me live second Friday of every month, 777 00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:51.719 that blasts in the past some beautiful Magnolia and Burbank, 778 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.559 California for mint on card. 779 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:55.519 I think that's everything Tom. 780 00:41:55.599 --> 00:42:00.039 Jeff watched Batman game plea unemployed shut. 781 00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:04.719 All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Jeff 782 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:05.880 say goodbye. 783 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:11.639 You get the old style of substance, rookie card, everybody, goodbye, everybody, 784 00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:12.199 We love you. 785 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:13.199 Jimmy Ace