Full Transcript for The Real Zombies that Inspired Modern Horror

was forced to work on a plantation with other zombies under the Bokor's control. Years later the Bokor died, and he was finally able to regain his freedom and come back home to his family. why people took him seriously. This isn't a centuries old story. This is in nineteen eighty. There are hospital records. There is a death certificate. Living family members And this is a live man standing right in front of you who you watched die and buried eighteen years ago. This case attracted international attention. And you know what's weird is okay this was in 1980, I was like two years old. But you would think that at least I would have heard about this. Samantha: No, I've never heard about it. Lisa: I mean I was only like two years old. People weren't gonna be talking about it anymore by the time that I was old enough to comprehend what was going on, but I've never heard this story before. Like I have, but I didn't know that it was as recent as it is. We also didn't have TikTok or Facebook or anything back then, so news didn't travel as fast as it does now, within seconds. So the scientific explanation is that he was poisoned by something. An ethnobotanist named Wade Davis was looking into it. An ethnobotanist studies the relationship between plants and humans. And how different cultures use plants for medicine and things like that. So he hears about this zombie in Haiti. And he hears about the sorcerer, the boh, and he's like, Well, I wonder if this boh is using some kind of plant and poisoned him. Because if you think about it, how did the sorcerer know that he was alive? He knew he was alive. He dug him up. So the sorcerer must have been the one to poison him 'cause everyone else thought he was dead. You know? Samantha: And at that time there was no bells for people to ring. Lisa: Not anymore, no. So he went to Haiti and he started investigating what kind of plants they had there and what they were using the plants for and everything and he determined that what it could have been was pufferfish toxin. Pufferfish toxin paralyzes you and it slows down. Samantha: Yeah, and it slows your hair Lisa: Mm-hmm, slows down your breathing and your heart rate and everything. And I was thinking that it could have been a mixture of Belladonna. But I thought Belladonna did one thing when it did another. there are different types of belladonna. There's actually one that could have been in the mixture, but I don't think it was now. But he said that it was the toxin of a puffer fish plus other poisonous plants. But they had to have very skillfully mixed this because you get one little thing wrong and you kill You know, the victim could die. And that's obviously not what the sorcerer wanted to do. To this day though, no one has any idea what happened to Clervius. It was only his story. And the fact that somebody did it to on purpose. Samantha: Where is he now? Lisa: He's probably d dead and gone by now. I didn't look that up. I didn't think you were gonna ask that. I didn't even think about that. Samantha: Ha ha ha. Lisa: Anyway, the scientists theorized that with these toxins someone could be mistakenly declared as dead, buried, and later revived. Which is horrifying to think that that could actually happen. Scientists were still skeptical because the chemical evidence was very weak at best, and toxins were not found in his body. Some details of his story changed later on. Maybe he started remembering more. I don't know. It wasn't really documented. Plus it's hard to explain how somebody can survive being buried alive. But okay. It was in Haiti. I'm pretty sure it gets pretty hot in Haiti. You would think that there would be dehydration, heat exhaustion, plus lack of oxygen. So I don't think he was buried very long. Plus the Bokor knew. He was waiting for everyone to leave the gravesite so he could dig back up. Samantha: Yeah. Lisa: There's another theory though. Clairvius said that he had a dispute with his brother over land ownership and inheritance. So there's a theory that his brother is the one who hired the Bokor to do this to him and get him out of the way. And there must have been a fear that Clarvius would kind of wake up out of his trance and come back and tell everyone what had happened. I don't know why his brother just didn't have him killed. I'm assuming it's just because that's my brother, I don't want to kill him, but let's do this to him instead. That actually would have been a fate worse than death. So Clerbius could have come back. a little bit before he actually did But he was afraid to come back because if his brother was still alive, his brother could have tried to attempt to do something to him all over again. So he stayed away and then he found out that his brother had died and he's like, Okay, now I can come home Now most people get this wrong. In Haitian folklore, a zombie isn't a monster. It doesn't want to eat brains. There's no outbreak or zombie apocalypse. A zombie is someone who has his will taken away. Samantha: Yeah. Lisa: So the horror was not zombies are coming to eat us. The horror in it was I'm trapped in my own body and someone else is in control of it. Samantha: you're pa so you're a passenger in your own body. Lisa: Pretty much, yeah. You might know what you're doing, but you can't Samantha: Can't you don't control it. Lisa: Yeah. You can't stop it. Now, this practice of turning people basically into zombies was developed in Haiti during and after centuries of slavery. Think about how horrifying that would be to someone who knew what slavery was like. You die, but you can't join your ancestors. You can't have peace. And now you are forced into an eternity of slavery. Samantha: Sounds like a nightmare. Lisa: Mm. in Haitian tradition that is a zombie. Now the role of the Bokor, because I want to be clear on this, making zombies is not a common voodoo practice. There aren't voodoo practitioners running around making zombies. This is often a sorcerer or practitioner who

works outside the religious structure. So basically in the voodoo religion, they're on the dark side of it. They're practicing the black magic. Samantha: Okay. Lisa: And so, He basically he's more feared in folklore than most other practitioners. In folklore, the Bocor can cast curses, use magic for money, like people can hire him to do things, him or her. They can create zombies and they can control spirits. They can create physical zombies, like Clairvius Nurses, or they can also create spiritual zombies, which in folklore it basically takes your soul and it keeps it in a jar. What? Samantha: Right. I don't know. Lisa: Yeah. they're also said to use zombie powders, which is basically like, okay, let's say that what it is was like puffer fish toxin and different plants, different poisonous plants. They grind everything up into like a powder and use it like that somehow. Samantha: Mm. Lisa: This powder basically will slow your breathing, slow your heart rate, paralyze you, make you appear dead. One of the ingredients in this powder is supposedly ground up animal materials. Like ground up animal bones. Samantha: Okay. Lisa: Or ground up teeth. I'm thinking that if it's ground up it's anything hard that would be teeth or bones. Yuck. But voodoo and Haitian traditions isn't exactly the origin of zombies. It's just their own spin on it. And when I first started looking this up, I thought that the origin of zombies was the voodoo religion and Haiti, but I was wrong. Long before Haiti, there was the Norse Drauger or Drauger. I think it's Drauger. This is in Norse Icelandic folklore. He's a dead person who comes back out of anger, greed, vengeance, or stubbornness. And he looks like a corpse. He's unnaturally strong. He's like a Viking zombie. That's why in the intro I called him a Viking zombie. And I asked Tony about drauggers and like, Do you know what a dragger is? thinking that I was teaching him something. He's like, Yeah. He goes, You fight all the time in Skyrim like, I don't know anything about video games. I mean I'll kick your ass in Mario Kart, but that's about it. Samantha: No. Yeah, I don't know what it is either. Mario Zelda Fortnite. That's it. Lisa: Yeah. Hehehe Now they came back for a variety of different reasons. They're either protecting a treasure they're buried with, refusing to give up land or property, seeking vengeance, or just out of pure hatred, anger, and malice. Like, fuck, I'm dead. I'm pissed. Samantha: wouldn't you be two? For the most part. Lisa: All depends. One of the most common stories about a drouger is that a powerful warrior dies and then he's buried with all of his weapons and wealth. Samantha: And that's normal in a lot of cultures because they believe that they need it for the afterlife. Lisa: Yeah, makes sense. I would want mine too. But then strange things start happening around the grave. Livestock starts dying. People start disappearing and then travelers get attacked. Eventually someone discovers that the

dead warrior is walking around at night. They are very physical. They can open doors. They can break bones, kill people, rustle, they can ride horses. So sounds like they're pretty intelligent. So like in the zombie movies, this would be one of the fast and smart ones, meaning you're screwed. You're Samantha: Yeah, you you probably cannot outrun the slowest one. Lisa: Yeah. There are four types of zombies. Fast and smart, you're screwed. Slow and smart. Just gotta watch out for booby traps and stuff. They're sneaky. Then you got fast and stupid. Just stay out of their way. Then you got the slow and stupid. That's like, you know, calling into work because you're gonna be late because a zombie won't get out of your fucking driveway or something, you know. Like you get used to that. These would be the fast and smart ones. Some sagas describe heroes being in hand-to-hand combat with these things. like professional wrestling with a real corpse. Samantha: Celebrity deat match. That's what that just reminded me of. Lisa: Ha ha ha. Now this is a really weird detail. They can increase their size in some stories. They can get huge. And they get heavy as a stone. They're giant like. And I'm imagining like Mario eating a mushroom, just who get bigger, you know. Yeah. Now to kill it, you cut off the head, you burn the body, you rebury the remains. Samantha: Ha ha ha. Lisa: after you stake the corpse. So you cut the head off, you stake it, you burn it, you rebury it, but you rebury it away from the community. Samantha: Does Sam and Dean know about this? Lisa: Ha ha ha. What does that sound like though? What else do you do that to? Samantha: Vampire. Lisa: Yeah. Vampire lore and zombie lore are very similar. Like they kind of bleed into each other. And that's because I'll touch on this in a little bit, but that's because zombie lore came way before vampire lore. Way before anyone was even thinking about vampires. The zombie lore came first. Now here is the most famous Drauger story. And for this one, I'm just gonna read it. Cause I'm not gonna justify it telling the story, so. Samantha: Yeah. Lisa: Mm. This story begins in medieval Iceland. A wealthy farmer needed a shepherd. The problem was that nobody wanted the position. His livestock graved near a valley that had a terrible reputation. People claimed strange things lived there. Animals vanished. Travelers reported frightening encounters. The locals avoided certain areas after dark. Naturally the farmer eventually hired the one man stubborn enough not to care. His name was Glomer. Glomer was huge, strong, and bad-tempered. And according to the saga, he wasn't particularly religious. He mocked local superstitions, he ignored warnings, and generally acted like the smartest man in every room. When people warned him about the valley, he basically just shrugged off and nothing was gonna scare him. As winter deepened, Iceland entered the darkest part of the year. Christmas approached and the household prepared for

the holiday. Everyone attended church services except for Glomer. He had work to do. He intended to take the sheep out despite warnings. People urged him not to go. In some versions they specifically warned him that strange things were known to happen around Christmas. Glomer laughed it off and headed into the darkness alone. and he never came back. Night fell, the weather worsened, the household waited, no blomber. Morning came, still no blomber. A search party formed, and eventually they found him dead, laying on the ground in the snow. His body was described as strangely discolored and swollen. His eyes were open, His expression terrified the men who found him. Nobody could determine exactly what killed him. Some said an evil spirit, others blamed the wilderness. Nobody really knew. But everyone agreed something wasn't right. And the body wouldn't cooperate. The men tried to move him and they couldn't. The corpse felt impossibly heavy. More men arrived to help, and the body barely budged. Finally they managed to transport him home, but nobody felt comfortable. The atmosphere around the corpse felt wrong. The farmer's household became increasingly uneasy, and then things got worse. The dead shepherd started walking. Not long after burial, people began reporting sightings. Something was moving around the farm at night. Animals were found dead, people heard footsteps, And then came the attacks. The thing wandering the countryside was glomer. Only it wasn't really glomer anymore. He had become a drouger. This saga describes him as massive, far larger and stronger than any ordinary man. He stalked farms, he killed livestock, he attacked travelers. Anyone unfortunate enough to meet him after dark was in danger. People became afraid to leave their homes. Entire areas were avoided. The dead shepherd had become a local terror, and nobody could stop him. Years later came a man named Gratir. And by the way, I looked up all this translation. I know I'm saying these right. Gratier already had a reputation. He was powerful, he was fearless, and perhaps a little too confident. When he heard about Glomer, he decided to deal with the problem himself. The locals thought he was insane. Others had tried, none had succeeded, but Gratir wasn't interested in backing down. Instead of hunting Glomer, Gratir waited, alone, at night, in the haunted farmhouse. He sat in the darkness listening, hours passed. Then he heard it. Heavy footsteps approaching slowly and deliberately. Something enormous entered the building, and then Gratier saw him, the dead shepherd. This fight was not an exorcism. This wasn't a prayer. This was a brawl. The two crashed through furniture, walls shook, the house nearly collapsed. Glomer possessed supernatural strength, but Gratir was one of the strongest men in Iceland. They wrestled across the building and out into the night. The struggle continued under the moonlight. Neither could gain the advantage until finally Gratir managed to force Drauger down. This is the creepiest moment in the entire story. As Gratir pinned Glomer, the Drauger looked directly into his eyes. Gratir became overwhelmed with terror, not because he was losing, but because of what he saw in Glomer's gaze. For a moment he froze, and Glomer spoke. Before his final destruction, Glomer cursed Gratir. The curse was devastating. According to the saga, Gratir would become increasingly unlucky. He would never grow stronger than he already was, darkness would forever frighten him, and his life would become miserable, and strangely enough, the curse appears to work. The rest of Gratier's life is basically one disaster after another. But when Gratir recovered from the terror of looking into Glomer's eyes, he finally finished the job. The Drauger's head was cut off, the body was burned, the remains were destroyed. Only then did the haunting stop. The countryside finally found peace. Samantha: It's it's an interesting story. I think personally I think it's all full of shit, but I don't know. I hope that it's real. Lisa: Could be. It's folklore. It's cool. So the Norse feared dead warriors who crawled out of their grave. But across the sea in Ireland, the People feared something even stranger. A man who wouldn't stay in his grave no matter how many times you killed him. Samantha: What? Lisa: We're gonna talk about Abertock. Abertock is often called Ireland's vampire. you remember how I said that zombie lore and vampire lure Samantha: They cross over. Lisa: Yeah. They kind of bleed into each other. This is what this is. He's generally referred to as a revenant. And he's also said to be an influence on later vampire traditions. That's debated, but could be. Samantha: Yeah. Lisa: So this is the story of Abertak. The story takes place in what is now County Londonderry. Abertock wasn't described as a giant warrior like Glomer. In many versions he was actually very short. Some stories describe him as a dwarf. Others simply describe him as usually just very unusually small. Samantha: Mm-hmm. Lisa: But what he lacked in size he made up for in cruelty. This dude was a bastard. Samantha: It sounds like a leprechaun. An evil leprechaun. Hey, we're talking about Irish, right? Lisa: It kind of Yeah. I never thought of it that way. Samantha: Yeah. Lisa: He ruled over the local people and was feared throughout the region. According to legend, Abratak studied sorcery. Depending on the version of the story, he either learned magic from the druids or from darker supernatural forces. Soon people began to believe he possessed powers beyond those of ordinary men. Nobody liked him. Like I said, he was a bastard. But nobody wanted to challenge him either. But eventually someone did. A local chieftain named Kahan finally confronted him. The details vary by telling, but Kahan eventually killed Arbatok. The people were very happy that the tyrant was dead. He was buried, end of story. Except it wasn't. He came back. Not as a ghost, not as a spirit,

but as a body, as a corpse. The next day Abertach was walking around. Alive. or at least something very close to alive. The villagers were horrified. Kahan killed him again. The corpse was buried again. Problem solved. Nope. The next day he returned again. And he demanded a blood tax. This is where the stories start sounding surprisingly vampiric. Some versions claimed Abertock demanded bowls of blood from the living. Others say he fed directly upon people. Either way, blood becomes a central element of the legend. And the villagers just willingly handed it over because if they weren't scared enough before of him, they sure as hell were now. That's why modern writers often call him Ireland's vampire. Kahan was desperate to get rid of Abertak permanently. So he sought advice from a holy man. The holy man explained that Abertok wasn't staying dead because he wasn't being buried correctly. He's like he ain't doing it right. The revenant required special treatment, so Kahan killed him a third time. This time they followed specific instructions. Different versions give slightly different details, but the most common include that they kill him with the sword made from a a U-tree, like wood from a U-tree. Samantha: What is that? Lisa: There it's a type of tree. Just a type of tree. Samantha: At first I at first I thought you were gonna say unicorn. That would have made things more special. Horrible, but special. Lisa: That would have made it a little cooler. Yeah. Then they buried him upside down, placed a heavy stone over the grave on consecrated ground. Only then did he remain dead. Today you can go see his grave. It's still there. There is actually a site associated with Abertock, and it's called Slatoverty Dolmen. I really hope I said that right. Did I? Where's a hard? Samantha: You did Birds are hard. Words are hard. I d I don't know. You did your best. Lisa: Locals have long connected this ancient standing stone with the story. Whether it's truly his grave is another matter entirely, but the legend survives. Now, this grave, I've seen pictures of it, it's actually under a U tree. So he's killed with the wood from a U tree and buried underneath a U tree. And It used to be like a burial mound, but I think it has kind of flattened since then, but that large stone is still on top of it. And from the picture I saw, it looks like the stone is kind of like sunken down into the ground because it's so old, it's been there for so long. But yeah, people take that burial site very, very seriously. Ireland doesn't fuck around with their folklore. Samantha: Yeah. I think it's in No, but what I think is interesting is how they buried upside down. 'Cause so in some cultures, like flipping the casket upside down, you're giving the person respect by burying them, but when they're completely upside down, it is they they were not a good person. Lisa: Yeah. the thought is that if they're buried upside down, they can't get out of their grave. Because instead of digging

up, they're digging further down. They get lost, they get turned around. Samantha: And that's yeah. And that's the same thing with digging s okay, so normal, you're laying horizontal, you're dug six feet down. But there are other cultures that will bury people vertical, but then also flip them upside down so their head is at the ground. So it's the exact same concept, but when you put someone vertical, that usually symbolizes Lisa: Uh-huh. Samantha: some type of folklore like vampire, zombie, anything else with it. So if you ever if don't go grave robbing, but if you ever come across someone and their body is a vertical, just fuck just run. Stop everything, run. Don't dig that shit up. Lisa: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, if you ever come across a grave site, yeah. Yeah. Sreeberry, I'm gonna get the fuck out of there. Now let's talk about briefly the medieval walking dead. They're dead. They come back and they mess with people and they get people sick. These are older than the vampire legends, like I said. This vampire for folklore wasn't even a thing yet. They weren't called vampires, they were called revenants, the walking dead, the restless corpses, the unquiet dead. A person dies and they're buried. Something goes wrong and they come back. There were night visitors. This theme is super common. A newly dead person begins appearing at night. They walk through villages and enter homes, then people start getting sick. Sometimes entire families get sick and die. The dead person was causing it. Usually today we would say, that's disease. Back then. It was the corpse causing it. We have the Buckinghamshire Revenant, one of the most famous accounts in twelfth century England. A dead man returned to torment his wife. Night after night he entered the house and people notice and start to get more and more terrified. Eventually the villagers decided to open the grave and according to the account the corpse showed very little sign of decomposition. Now today we know that that's kind of normal, especially if it's been cold. Cold preserves the body and slows decomposition. They don't know this then. Samantha: Mm-hmm. Lisa: But that was the huge warning sign that something was wrong, and so they took some drastic measures. They dug the corpse back up completely, they cut his head off, removed the heart, burned the body, and scattered the ashes. A lot of these things are, as I said, seen in vampire folklore too. Samantha: Okay. Lisa: The last thing I want to talk about is the Chinese shit, let me look this up. Samantha: Mm. Lisa: How to pronounce Samantha: I try to put like the phonetics next to it. Lisa: I do I do too, but I forgot this time. Okay, that is not the way I thought it was pronounced, but let's continue. The Chinese Jiangshire The hopping vampire. It's a reanimated corpse with commonly pale greenish skin. It's very rigid and stiff and it's wearing clothing of a Qing dynasty might not be Qing dynasty official. Let me look that up. Okay, I was right. It's rigid

and stiff, and it's wearing the clothing of a Qing dynasty official. And the weirdest part is it hops around with its arms out like this. Arms stiff out in front of it. So imagine that fucker hopping down the street chasing you with his arms out like that. Like, you even gonna take that seriously? I would laugh. What is that? Samantha: I ki I I kinda would want to play with it. Like I don't I don't know what to do. It sounds cute. Lisa: Like mess with it. But no, it's not but it doesn't it doesn't have to touch you. I don't think it even has to touch you. Listen to this. Okay, so the reason why it's so stiff is because rigor mortis has set in. And since rigor mortis has set in, it can't walk right. So that's why it hops. Samantha: No. Lisa: Ha ha ha. Samantha: I kinda feel bad for it. Like putting it against all the other zombies, like this is the one with a tism. Lisa: Yeah. Yeah. Samantha: Like this is the one that the other zombies like throw stones at and Mm. Lisa: Okay, so Samantha: I'm still picturing it. Lisa: Okay, so why does it come back? They can't they come back because they either died violently, they were buried improperly, they're just a restless spirit, sorcery could have been involved, or a cat jumped over the corpse. It does not specify that it has to be a black cat either, for once. People believed certain animals could interfere with the boundary between the li life and the death. Between life and death. Samantha: Okay. Lisa: But you don't wanna mess with it. You don't wanna play with it. Because it doesn't eat flesh and it doesn't drink blood. Samantha: Hmm. Lisa: They're basically energy vampires. They feed off your qi. Samantha: Okay. Lisa: Your chi your qi is basically your life force or your your life energy. The force that keeps your body going. Yeah. Samantha: Yeah. Lisa: So okay. This is kind of a funny story, but this is where they think that the Jangshu stories come from. Professional corpse transporters would sometimes carry the bodies for long distances. They would tie them upright to big long tall bamboo poles. And they would have a lot of corpses at once. And at night, these people would carry them. So imagine from a distance having it be dark out and the only thing lighting anything up was lanterns, right? And you see these corpses just kinda hopping by. It doesn't it doesn't explain it doesn't explain why their arms would be l out like this. Samantha: It's still funny. I'm picturing like you going out and chasing them, mocking them, and then your soul being taken from you. Lisa: Ha ha ha. Yeah, that's what you get. That's why you don't mess with them. Now how do you stop There's a talisman. Okay, that is a weird way to pronounce that word. T-A-O-I-S-T. How do you think you pronounce that? Samantha: Don't ask me. Lisa: Daoist. Samantha: Okay. Lisa: Okay. Anyway, So, how do you stop them? There's a talisman called a Taoist talisman, and it's a yellow piece of paper that you put on the corpse's forehead. This yellow piece of paper is a spell that keeps them immobilized and helps you sometimes control it if that's what you decide that you want to do. Removing it. means that the spell is broken and the corpse starts moving again. You can use a mirror. What the mirror does is it reveals the creature's true nature to itself. So it makes the creature see itself for what it really is. They don't like that. You can use bells. Sound has power. And it repels evil spirits. And then you can use peach wood. Like the wood of a peach tree. Samantha: Mm-hmm. Lisa: This is one of the oldest anti-evil materials In Chinese folklore. The peach tree is associated with protection, life, vitality, warding off evil spirits, and longevity. It basically represents everything that is opposite of the j jancture. You can use the peach wood to carve talismans for protection. You can make swords out of them. There are actual depictions of Taoist priests who carry peachwood swords. You can place the wood near your front door toward the moth, and you can carry little wooden charms. Sounds like as long as it's peach wood, whatever you do with it, that's gonna help protect you. Or you can use sticky rice. There are so many stories where it's either rice, sugar, salt, anything with grains. But this time the Jang sure doesn't have to count them. In Chinese folklore, rice is pure and cleansing and protective. And it's thought to absorb or repel harmful spiritual influences. So if janctures are creatures corrupted by death energy, the rice could counteract it. Makes sense I guess. The way you use it. Yeah. And it's sticky rice because the rice kinda sticks together and Samantha: It's the natural elements. Lisa: That symbolizes something else that I didn't write that down. but I mean basically it's sticky rice. You can make it into like a big softball and like throw it at the thing. And that's one of the ways you use sticky rice is you literally throw it at the thing. You can sprinkle it around your house. You can press it against a bite or a wound. Let's say that the juncture does get you and bites you for some reason. You can press it against that wound. Samantha: Ha ha. Lisa: And it also somehow reveals supernatural footprints. just kind of cool. Samantha: Yeah. Lisa: So yeah, what was your favorite zombie? Samantha: What do you think? Lisa: The hopping's happy. Samantha: Ha ha. Lisa: Yes. Samantha: Like that's its superpower because you're looking at it like what the hell is that? And then your body, as it drains everything from you, your body starts go doing the chugga chugga Lisa: Ha ha Samantha: It just removes your energy. Lisa: Yeah. Samantha: Mm-hmm. Lisa: That's our personality though, like Samantha: Ooh, what's that? Lisa: I if it's the what the what is that? Like we would find the humor in it before we even started getting scared of it. Like it's at a distance. We can keep laughing for a while. It's hopping. It's gonna take a while to get over here. Samantha: Yeah. Yeah. Lisa: You make fun of it until you start feeling yourself. I I feel kind of funny. We need to start running. Samantha: Yeah. Yeah, that's my favorite. Lisa: I needed to put that in there because there was another episode where I wanted to talk about something in Chinese folklore. It was the crossroads episode. And I was having you pick all the regions. Because I had so many of them that I didn't have time for all of them, so you were picking them. And you did not pick that one. It was actually Japanese folklore. Samantha: Yeah. Lisa: And I wanted to talk about that so bad just because the deity in their traditions that guard the crossroads has a penis instead of a nose. I'm like, he's got a dick nose, I wanna talk about it. Samantha: Okay. But naturally I picked everything that I was interested in, the re my regions. Lisa: I know. Hmm. So with that, that concludes our episode on zombies tonight. If you like this episode and you haven't yet subscribed, go ahead and do that so you don't miss another episode. And if you're listening to us on iHeart, Spotify, or Apple, leave us a rate and a review. Leave a comment, do all the things that help us grow and reach more listeners. And until next time Samantha: Question everything, remember the forgotten? Lisa: And in this case, you can make fun of it a little bit. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week. Samantha: Ha ha See ya.