Full Transcript for Dissecting the Epstein Debacle + A Conversation with Michael Popok

orders his Attorney General, Pam Bondy, a person 67 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:49.720 who's loyalty to Trump predates her loyalty to justice, to 68 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.759 go and investigate every single Democrat whose name appears in 69 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:59.399 even the faintest proximity to Epstein, people like Richardson, Mitchell, 70 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:03.319 BARACKO Obama. We're talking about Bill Clinton, You're talking about 71 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:08.759 Larry Summers. I mean, you're talking about everyone. You see, 72 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:13.600 it doesn't matter whether there's evidence. Trump doesn't want justice. 73 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:18.000 He wants revenge at scale. He wants to change the 74 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:22.680 storyline from why won't Trump release the documents to look 75 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:25.000 at these diary look at these damn democrats. 76 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:25.560 You see. 77 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:31.720 It's the same trick that he's used his entire career deflect, deny, destroy, 78 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:36.199 But BONDI isn't stopping with the Epstein Theater. Oh no, 79 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:41.959 fuck no, She's now suing California over its redistricting map 80 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:47.040 while ignoring, completely ignoring Texas for doing the exact same thing, 81 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:51.040 or almost the exact same thing. You see, the hypocrisy 82 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:54.639 isn't subtle. It's a billboard with a kneon arrow that's 83 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:59.399 pointed directly to the White House. This DOJ isn't operating 84 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:04.079 is a department of justice. It's a department of vengeance, obedience, 85 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:05.720 and political warfare. 86 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:07.360 Why do I say. 87 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:10.639 That, Well, as if it's not enough, Trump's orbit is 88 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:16.240 preparing its next soldier, and that that's Lindsey Halligan. You see, 89 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:21.439 she's Trump's former lawyer, an election conspiracy evangelist, and now 90 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.879 now she's the potential US attorney in Virginia. Well, I 91 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:30.000 say potential because right now she's not even supposed to 92 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:32.639 be there. Her one hundred and twenty days have expired. 93 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:36.160 And the problem, the problem is it is now before 94 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:38.639 the court on whether she can stay or not, with 95 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.560 most people saying that she's got to go. And why 96 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.040 it's a problem, Well, because she herself has signed off 97 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:49.720 on the case against both James Comy as well as 98 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:54.360 Letitia James. This is the problem and what we're watching, 99 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:59.639 my friends, is a coordinated legal insurgency, one that's meant 100 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:04.079 to read shaped the justice system into a weapon, one 101 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:08.519 that is meant to erase accountability, one that is meant 102 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.519 to protect Trump by burying everyone else. Which brings me 103 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.879 to our guest, Michael Popak. He is he Poppak. 104 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.240 He's not just a lawyer. 105 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:21.839 He is one of the clearest, sharpest legal minds dissecting 106 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:26.439 this authitarian circus in real time. A veteran litigator with 107 00:07:26.519 --> 00:07:30.199 over thirty years of experience in both federal and state courts, 108 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.519 he's a former managing partner at several major law firms. 109 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.639 He is the co host of the top rated Legal 110 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:40.519 af podcast, which I'm telling everybody to go to, and 111 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.560 one of the most respected legal analysts breaking down Trump's 112 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:48.959 criminal exposure, the judicial corruption, and the weaponization of law 113 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:54.519 on a national stage. Mike's argued complex commercial cases, he's 114 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.600 handled major corporate investigations, and he's built a reputation for 115 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:02.399 translating legal cares and to truth that the public can 116 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:06.839 actually understand. And today he's here with me on Maya 117 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:10.120 Culpa to help us sift through the bullshit from the 118 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:14.000 Epstein fallout, the Trump meltdown, and the legal battles that 119 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:17.920 could reshape the entire country. So let's go now to 120 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.879 that conversation. Michael popac po Po, welcome back to Maya Culpa. 121 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:23.720 Great to have you. 122 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:26.240 As you know, the ible goes by way too fast, 123 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:29.480 A million questions for you, gonna jump right in it. Okay, 124 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:33.240 So let's start where the country right now is fixated. 125 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.919 When you look at the so called Epstein email release 126 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:42.679 twenty three thousand sent to the House over PSYCHMDY, hundreds 127 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:47.919 and hundreds more of internal communication between Epstein, his pilots, 128 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:51.600 his schedule as friends, his lawyers, you name it, lots 129 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:57.559 of people. Does this strike you as legitimate transparency or 130 00:08:57.679 --> 00:09:00.279 is the Trump White House losing its grip on a 131 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.960 file that they're trying so desperate to control. 132 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.120 Legitimate transparent Here's here, let me just map it out. 133 00:09:09.440 -->

00:09:13.480 Legitimate transparency would be to take the entirety of what 134 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:18.240 cash Betel's FBI reviewed in March looking for Donald Trump's name, 135 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:21.919 the entirety of what they delivered to Pambondy, what Pambondy 136 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:25.519 briefed Trump bond in may and deliver that to the 137 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:27.879 American people with a site that they can go on 138 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:31.679 and read for themselves, with the survivor victim names redacted, 139 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:34.600 but not Donald Trump's, and let them be the judge 140 00:09:34.600 --> 00:09:37.200 of it. I'll tell you what's not transparency. What's not 141 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:41.039 transparency is to go and put Lauren Bobert in the 142 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:45.320 situation room and abuse other women who have been victims 143 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:47.919 of sexual abuse again to try to convince them to 144 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:51.480 vote no on the discharge petition or on the eventual 145 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:53.759 bill of the House floor next month to release the 146 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:57.840 Epstein files. That's not transparency. As as Carolyn Levitt likes 147 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:01.480 to say, that's Orwellian, it's the opposite. Now. The reason 148 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.159 we're getting these other documents, including a data dump, which 149 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.600 I think Trump was supposed to help Trump, but actually 150 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:10.279 some of the things that are in the data dump 151 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:13.159 are worse than the three emails that came out earlier 152 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:15.960 in the week in terms of Donald Trump's involvement with things. 153 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:18.440 I don't know how this helps him any of it. 154 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:25.320 But the data dump itself, combined with new reporting by 155 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:28.240 David Schuster that came out in the last forty eight 156 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:31.320 to seventy two hours that there was a briefing between 157 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.720 the Department of Justice and right wing members of the 158 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:37.519 House in which they were told, according to the reporting, 159 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:41.159 that the files that are under wraps with Donald Trump 160 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:45.080 are worse for Donald Trump than first suspected. And now 161 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:47.240 we're seeing see, if you can't get them from the pile, 162 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.279 then you got to go to the source. And the 163 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:52.120 source is the Epstein estate and their hard drives and 164 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.960 their emails and their email boxes that still exist. And 165 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.559 look what's come out just in the last seventy two hours, 166 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:01.759 This scandal and Donald Trump's involvement has roared back to life. 167 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:02.679 It's been reignited. 168 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.840 Except the problem is the twenty three thousand emails that 169 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.600 were given over by the Epstein Estate, those are not 170 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:15.600 documents that are included, or at least we don't believe 171 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:20.080 so in the file that's under the control of Pam 172 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.559 Bondi and Cash Pittel. My understanding is that these are separate, 173 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:29.120 that these are unique documents that were not part of it. 174 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.320 Again, how do we know a problem? We just don't know. 175 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:35.759 What do we know? I mean the mound of documents 176 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:39.159 which took up a tractor trailer filled and took a 177 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.120 team of FBI staff round the clock in twelve hour 178 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:47.039 shifts to review and to find Donald Trump's name in 179 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.639 it that when we refer to the Epstein files, we 180 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.840 refer to the documents that have been we assume obtained 181 00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:56.720 by the FBI who did the investigations, the subpoenas that 182 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:59.840 were executed, the documents that were obtained, the hard drives. 183 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.120 It does not, however, may may not include the money 184 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:08.000 following the money the bank accounts for Epstein, maybe for 185 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:12.159 Donald Trump. And then to totally divert attention because he 186 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:14.720 knows it's going so badly, your old boss, he knows 187 00:12:14.759 --> 00:12:17.039 it's going so badly, Donald Trump. He comes out with 188 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:20.639 Pam Bondy and the FBI. I should investigate Bill Clinton 189 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:29.080 and Larry Summers and Morgan. How about you? How about 190 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:32.919 they should? Okay, let's make this simple. In a well 191 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:37.080 functioning democracy that isn't controlled by the most corrupt Department 192 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.720 of Justice and FBI and history led by the felon 193 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:42.440 in chief as the chief legal officer for his own administration. 194 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:46.200 In a normal society, we'd have a special counsel already 195 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:49.120 appointed to be independent from the Department of Justice and 196 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:53.480 the FBI, to investigate wherever the chips may fall, including 197 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.600 the President of the United States. That's exactly what we're 198 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.720 not getting and we'll never get until we get accountability 199 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:00.600 and way. 200 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:04.960 You know,

I did a sub stack alive and one 201 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:07.000 of the things that popped into my head while I 202 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:09.399 was doing the life Lots of things pop into my head, 203 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:11.159 and the thing that popped into my head is you 204 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.840 know what I would do. I would actually offer my 205 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:18.639 service alongside whether it be Pambondy or a Todd Blanche 206 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:23.120 or Marjorie Taylor Green. Now, I would to act in 207 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:27.679 a bipartisan manner, go through every single document and prepare 208 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:30.840 a report like the Durham Report, like a Molar report. 209 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:34.919 And one thing people would know is that there's no 210 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:39.039 way in the world that every document that's missing will 211 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:43.039 not be accounted for, and that every person who should 212 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:47.039 be held accountable, alive or dead, would be listed in 213 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:50.320 that report. It would be a comprehensive report. It's really 214 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.320 the only way at this point in time, Popoc that 215 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:01.200 all America will acknowledge what those files contain, unless, of course, 216 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.919 they release them in its entirety. As you said, redacted 217 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:09.720 only to the names of the victims other than that, 218 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:14.720 if hypothetically they gave me the files to review anybody, 219 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:18.679 that's maga for sure. And many Republicans would say, no, 220 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.240 he's got an ax to grind right that how do 221 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:24.519 we know what he's writing is true? But if you 222 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:28.399 do it in concert with another person that they believe that, 223 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:31.159 to me is the only way that a proper report 224 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:32.039 could be written. 225 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.759 Look, the reality is, we're never going to see these 226 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.759 documents unless there's enough votes on the House floor to 227 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.000 release them. This president, will you know, when things are 228 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:45.120 going badly for you, you make them go as slowly 229 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:47.960 badly as possible. And that's what Donald Trump is busy 230 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:51.279 doing right now. He's wasting our time, our resources because 231 00:14:51.279 --> 00:14:54.240 he's wrapped up in a scandal that he thought, Look, 232 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:56.519 when you have a rotting body in your closet and 233 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.480 you go away for fifty days or forty days on 234 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.200 a vacation, it's still there. You get back. So he 235 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.679 got back thinking, hey, did I squelch the Epstein cover 236 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:09.159 up scandal? No, you didn't. And now that the Oversight Committee, 237 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:13.600 which is bipartisan, starts releasing documents like you spent hours 238 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:17.240 at Jeffrey Epstein's house with a victim. It doesn't help 239 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.679 you that your press secretary reveals the name of the 240 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:23.840 victim as a defense. It doesn't. Even if it was 241 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:26.759 Virginia Jeoffrey, which I'm not sure it was or it wasn't, 242 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:30.240 it's not and it's not a defense to say, oh, 243 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:33.799 we know who the underaged girl was that he was 244 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:37.320 in the house with for hours at a time. It's Virginia. 245 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.720 That does not help you. 246 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:44.360 Yeah, Caroline Levitt, it's no, as we would say, tomchem right, 247 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:47.759 she certainly know genius amongst geniuses. She did with her 248 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:50.879 machine gun lips. So let me ask you this because legally. 249 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:52.679 It's a line by Donald Trump. That's a line by 250 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:57.240 Donald Trump. Caroline machine gun lips Levit, she's got to. 251 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.240 I mean, it's like, what the fuck that is so 252 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:05.879 legally and tactically, Who do you think actually benefits from 253 00:16:05.879 --> 00:16:11.200 this selective leak, especially the emails referencing Marra a Lago visits, 254 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:13.720 flight manifests. 255 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:16.799 And Trump era DOJ correspondence, And who do you think 256 00:16:16.840 --> 00:16:20.200 should be sweating bullets inside of Trump's inner circle? 257 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.600 Look? Trump Trump, I mean, Trump has been briefed about 258 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:27.600 his name Lousey all over these files. He was told 259 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:31.320 in May by Pam Bondy what it was. It's so 260 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.639 bad that with the reporting, and that I don't think 261 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:36.360 this this leak was timed. This leak was time because 262 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:39.360 look at the drum beats since the government's reopened. You 263 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:43.840 got Gallaine Maxwell, who has been lobbying for a pardon 264 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.679 or a commutation of her sentence as she lives the 265 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:51.759 Beverly Hills Hotel lifestyle, apparently in a Texas jail, okay, 266 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:53.720 which is hard to believe. You got all that going on. 267 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.799 David Schuster comes out with his reporting a couple of 268 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.360 days before that, when the government was about to reopen 269 00:16:59.600 -->

00:17:02.639 that the people that have been briefed on the files 270 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.440 by the DOJ say they are worse for Trump than 271 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.200 previously imagined. And then you've got, of course, we always 272 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:14.599 knew that Maxwell lied during her interview, her sworn interview 273 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:18.039 under oath under an immunity deal to Todd Blanche when 274 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.119 she said, oh, Donald Trump, Oh, Donald Trump. I think 275 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:23.640 they were barely friends. I don't think they were ever 276 00:17:23.720 --> 00:17:26.559 at the house. And then you've got the email from 277 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.119 twenty eleven that's been released in which Epstein says, you 278 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.599 know the dog that doesn't bark. It's Donald Trump and 279 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:35.440 all those hours he spent with a girl in my 280 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:40.039 house and Ghalaie Maxwell saying I was just thinking about that. 281 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:41.519 You know. 282 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.519 The part that bothers me is, Look, you know, I 283 00:17:44.599 --> 00:17:47.960 have friends since I was nine, ten years old, and 284 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:50.400 if you went into my phone, you'd probably find we 285 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:54.160 have ten twenty thousand emails to each other. You know, 286 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:58.799 some just asking what's going on, others somewhat less appropriate. 287 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:04.799 But there's specificity in all of my emails and my communications. 288 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:08.920 Jeffrey Epstein in these communications writes like a fucking four 289 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:09.440 year old. 290 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:10.039 That's right. 291 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:15.559 It's also incredibly cryptic. Okay, let's assume for a second 292 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.440 that and again, because Donald's not ce seed on any 293 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.680 of these emails. There are no emails from Donald Trump 294 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:26.880 to Jeffrey Epstein Maxwell, anyone who why wait. 295 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:28.720 Wait, it's two people who thought that these would never 296 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.359 see the light of day, kibbots in between each other. 297 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.400 Okay, go ahead, right, but you don't kibbots in cryptic 298 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:38.200 when you're talking about something that's sexual that you never 299 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:39.640 think is going to come out. 300 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:40.839 I mean, none of. 301 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:44.519 These emails have any specificity, which bothers me, which is 302 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:48.160 why we need the full unredacted file so that we 303 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:50.400 can get some clarity what it's about. 304 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:51.599 But what what. 305 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:55.240 I thought was incredibly interesting is the fact that nobody 306 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:58.880 has brought this up. Why are there no emails from 307 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:04.880 Trump to Jeffstein? Thought he doesn't even have an email address. 308 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:07.519 He doesn't have one. He never had a computer, even 309 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:08.440 on his desk. 310 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:10.640 He does an email. 311 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:15.039 He he doesn't have an email address. For exact Roy 312 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:20.200 Cone taught him early early on, never have an email, 313 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:24.359 Never email or text anybody in that way. There's no 314 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:28.559 documentation that could ever be raised by you or against 315 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:30.559 you for what's been sent. 316 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.960 Did he use he were you pre social media with him? 317 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:35.759 Was he on social media when you were with him? 318 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:37.720 He was on social media? In fact, I'm the one 319 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:40.559 that helped him start his account on x okay, so 320 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:45.000 he was on x and I guess he did well. 321 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:46.680 He didn't really DM people. 322 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:48.400 In fact, what he would do is he would have 323 00:19:48.640 --> 00:19:52.039 somebody else send a text to somebody. Only on a 324 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:54.519 rare occasion would he send a DM. 325 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:55.200 So you're not. 326 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:58.079 Going to get that. But I'm shocked that Jeffrey Epstein 327 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:03.240 was a fucking pervert, right Gallayne Maxwell, who's a fucking degenerate, right, 328 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:08.400 very cryptic, very non specific. Two perverts talking to one 329 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:12.559 another are somewhat more specific than just hey, Donald was 330 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:15.440 with you know whoever it might be, you know, for 331 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:16.680 hours at the house. 332 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:18.640 Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Wait. Let me challenge 333 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.359 that they may be not thinking that these are ever 334 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:23.000 going to see the light of the day, but they 335 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:26.119 certainly don't want to incriminate themselves and say, hey, you 336 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:28.920 just you just you just raped a girl, didn't you. 337 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:30.720 They're not gonna they don't write that way. If you 338 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:32.720 look at remember all the emails that came out. You 339 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:34.839 and I did a piece about it. Also, all those 340 00:20:34.839 --> 00:20:36.960 emails that came out the first data top and we 341 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:39.880 went through them, you know, we learned about the spreadsheet 342 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:43.000

for the gifts that Bill Clinton is on and Alan 343 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:45.799 Dershowitz is on and buy this guy Alexis and buy 344 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:48.359 this one a watch and all of that. Even then, 345 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:53.839 when they communicated, it was in the shorthand of co conspirators, 346 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:59.279 lovers and participants in a child sex trafficking ring. They 347 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:01.960 were never de So this was consistent. It's not like 348 00:21:02.039 --> 00:21:05.319 these were out of character. For how these two communicator. 349 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:08.319 We saw hundreds of their of their emails. Even co 350 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:10.599 conspirators and bank robbers don't talk about, hey, what do 351 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.680 you do with your with your cut from the breakstruck. 352 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:13.359 I mean they were. 353 00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:19.519 Agreed, but like where the email says, but Trump told 354 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:23.599 Gilaine to stop the question that I keep asking people. 355 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:28.160 Stop what Stop stealing my girls that are working for me. 356 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:33.119 Stop charging shit, you know on Jeffrey Epstein's account since 357 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:35.359 he doesn't have one, since I tossed him out because 358 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:39.400 he's a creep and a pedophile. Stop what Stop showing 359 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:43.000 up unannounced, Stop pushing people on my lap, Stop taking 360 00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:45.319 photos of me. We don't know what stop was. 361 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:47.240 Yeah, but I got my own version, so do you. 362 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:52.359 You know, folks, when I first got my hands on 363 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.680 the I restore Elite, the big one, the fancy one. 364 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.240 I thought, great. Now, when we're in a glowing red 365 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:01.000 space helmet, I mean, I looked like I was auditioning 366 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:04.200 for the world. Said it's Daft punk tribute band. But 367 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:07.680 let me tell you something. This thing it's comfortable. You 368 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:09.839 literally you put it on your head, you hit the button, 369 00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:13.319 and suddenly you've got five hundred lights doing more for 370 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:16.079 your scalp than my lawyer ever did for my career. 371 00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:21.680 I mean, I wear mine while I'm answering emails, drinking, coughing, plotting, revenge, whatever, 372 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:25.359 And here's the shaker my hair. It actually looks starting 373 00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:27.839 to look fuller. I mean, even my wife said, Michael, 374 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.279 you're finally reversing something for once. I mean, that's true 375 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:34.920 love right now. I've tried other LED masks in the past. 376 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:37.519 Most of them felt like strap and a hot lunch 377 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:42.119 trait my face. But I restore. It's lightweight, easy, there's 378 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.079 no drama. And when you pair the Elite with the 379 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.640 Revive plus Max growth kit, that shampoo, conditioner, serum, the 380 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:53.359 whole Avengers cast of hair products, it's like your follicles 381 00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.759 enter Witness Protection and come back with a new identity. 382 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:02.119 It's stronger, thicker, it's ready to testify. Gummies, they're delicious, 383 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.720 any dangerous. I ate two and I had to stop 384 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:07.880 myself from tearing through the rest like they were Halloween candy. 385 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:11.000 And look, the holidays are here, and you're gonna be 386 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.200 in photos. You're gonna see relatives who still think that 387 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.319 you peaked in nineteen ninety eight, So why not show 388 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.880 up with better hair than half the people who used 389 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:20.480 to judge you. 390 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.279 And plus this. 391 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:26.920 Thing is packed with serious science, no joke, triple wavelength tech, 392 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:31.079 wider bean coverage, all engineered to wake up those lazy 393 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:35.079 follicles and send them back to work. Shutdowns over, and 394 00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:38.480 the best part there's the twelve month money back guarantee. 395 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:42.680 Let me say that again, a twelve month money back guarantee, 396 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:45.200 and if your head doesn't start making a comeback tour, 397 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.799 you get your money back with no weird questions. 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Support the show, support your hair, 403 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:12.519 and please tell them that I sent you so that 404 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:14.759 they don't think I wore this glowing helmet for nothing. 405 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.960 You ever try launching a podcast with zero experience, Well, 406 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.279 let me tell you it's like being tossed into a 407 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:25.599 cage match with a grizzly bear, blindfolded wearing clown shoes. 408 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:29.000 I mean, when I started Maya Kulpa, I thought to myself. 409 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:31.400 Come on, how hard can this be? Well? 410 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:35.799 Scriptwriting, logos,

production schedules, and deals, and don't even get 411 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.279 me started on the text setup. I mean, I felt 412 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.920 like I was the coding the damn matrix. If only 413 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:46.480 I had Shopify when I launched this beast. Shopify is 414 00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:51.359 the platform behind millions of businesses across the globe, responsible 415 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.240 for a whopping ten percent you hear me, ten percent 416 00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:59.119 of all e commerce in the United States. And my friends, 417 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:00.000 that's not hype. 418 00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:01.160 That's a fact. 419 00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:05.160 From big names like Mattel and Jim Shark to folks 420 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:09.319 just getting their hustle off the ground, Shopifies got their back. 421 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:13.799 I mean, you want a gorgeous online store, Shopifies got 422 00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:17.160 hundreds of sleek, ready to go templates that make you 423 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:18.640 look like a design god. 424 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:20.160 And AI tools. 425 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:24.440 Yeah, they've got those two writing your product descriptions, jazzing 426 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:28.440 up your images, maybe maybe even making you sound smarter 427 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.960 than you actually are. I mean not naming names or anything, right, 428 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:36.039 I mean need a marketing squad. 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But that doesn't make 443 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.039 our version factual. Maybe it makes it, it makes it 444 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:39.720 our opinion, but it doesn't make it fact it. 445 00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:41.880 Maybe, but I have a trial lawyer, and if I 446 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:44.240 got an email like that and I'm in court, I 447 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:47.920 can make a reasonable inference to a jury without having 448 00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:51.039 anybody even involved. I've used plenty of documents where the 449 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.640 witnesses didn't want to testify or couldn't remember the document, 450 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:55.880 but you can read it for yourself, and in real 451 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:59.640 time he's responding. And we've had Michael Wolfe on recently 452 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.039 Court of History Legal laf about his emails in particular 453 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.079 and what he what memory it jogged for him. He 454 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:10.160 said on that particular email exchange that this was in response, 455 00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:14.480 of course to Donald Trump saying that he fired the creep. 456 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.240 You know, you heard Carol Levett say as soon as 457 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.799 Donald Trump knew that he was a pedophile. This is 458 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.240 so not getting those so damning for Donald Trump. As 459 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:24.400 soon as he knew he was a pedophile and a creep, 460 00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.440 that he fired him from mar Alago and and canceled 461 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:29.559 his membership A right, stop right there. First of all, 462 00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.160 that's not true. That's he was never as Epstein said 463 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.839 in his own email, I was never a member of 464 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.559 mar A Lago, and so I could have been fired 465 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.519 from mar Alago. That's one. Secondly, we know from the 466 00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:42.839 backstory that it was over a forty million dollars land deal, 467 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:45.519 and that on the you know, on the courthouse steps 468 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:47.119 when they were bidding it up, he was pissed at 469 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.920 Epstein for making him bid up the land purchase. That's 470 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:51.279 second was. 471 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.480 Epstein who was who was angry at Donald because Epstein 472 00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:56.920 is the one who brought him to the house because 473 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.279 Epstein wanted to buy it. In fact, that house was 474 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:04.200 originally owned by the same guy, Les Wexner, that gave 475 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.640 him that sixty million dollar townhouse for a dollar right right. 476 00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:10.519 It was previously owned by another guy who was the 477 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.519 who lost it, right who lost it? So the other 478 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.200 thing that's problematic in that comment is, so your boss 479 00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.400 knew he was a pedophile, and what did he do 480 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.279 about it? Did he go to the

authorities, did he 481 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:24.880 report him? Or did he leave him on the streets 482 00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.759 to pray on girls that doesn't help them in the 483 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.680 story in the narrative the way I read it, you 484 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:32.720 can tell your audience how you read it. The way 485 00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:35.839 I read it about the I was never that, I 486 00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:41.319 was never a member girls and then Gallaige Maxwell to 487 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.880 stop is that Gallaie Maxwell was using more A Lago 488 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.759 as a predator hunting ground to find young girls who 489 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.799 were vulnerable girls to bring back to Epstein. I don't 490 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:53.880 know how else you could read it. 491 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.960 Well, you could, you don't really know what the what 492 00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:00.000 is Again, we can, I would argue, we can make 493 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.519 an argument either way, but certainly somebody can always say, 494 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.960 you know, stop charging you know, fucking mar Lago Bergers, 495 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:09.559 you know on Jeffrey's account he doesn't have one anymore. 496 00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:11.839 I mean, it could be a million different things. I 497 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:16.279 will tell you I heard from a conspiracy theorist to 498 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:17.720 conspiracy theorist. 499 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.119 I love, I love the warning the warning Bible. 500 00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:28.240 Right. They think that the reason that Trump doesn't want 501 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:33.319 the files released is not because it was a sexual 502 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:38.440 sort of thing, but rather because Donald was an FBI 503 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.279 informant for years. I've heard this, Yeah, yeah, right, and 504 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:46.279 that it really goes back many, many years, which is 505 00:29:46.319 --> 00:29:48.799 how he was successful in pulling off a lot of 506 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.039 bullshit and doing a lot of things that he never 507 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.200 was held accountable for that somebody else would have been. 508 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.880 And again it's almost like the Whitey Bulgess story was 509 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:03.279 like white Masks, where he was able to basically deal 510 00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.039 drugs in front of police officers and they knew they 511 00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.680 couldn't touch him because he was a well known and 512 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:15.880 an important FBI informant. That's one conspiracy. There's of course 513 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:16.480 many more. 514 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:18.680 Yeah, let me go back for a bit because I 515 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:20.160 have the email in front of me. This was between 516 00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.240 Michael Wolf, Who's

now the way, Can. 517 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:23.880 I just say one more thing about Michael Wolfe of 518 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:28.079 course really disappointed in that email where he's almost acting 519 00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.440 as an advisor, a legal advisor. Hey, you can use 520 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:35.519 this information as a benefit to yourself PR wise, or 521 00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:39.319 for a reduced kind of sentence, or you can use 522 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.519 it if Trump becomes president as almost like a shit right, 523 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:44.240 as a debt that he would owe you. 524 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:45.759 But I don't know. I felt. 525 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:50.000 I felt because I've had him on this may Culpa podcast, 526 00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:51.759 I've had him on my substacks. 527 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.119 I felt a little betrayed. I mean, for me, it 528 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:01.880 just showed how much Donald Trump feared, the blackmail and 529 00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:05.839 the extortion. What did Epstein have on Donald Trump and you? 530 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:09.079 And all? For me? It was is Michael Wolfe commenting 531 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:13.759 on knowing through being with Epstein how much he had. 532 00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.720 And Michael's been very public about all the stuff that 533 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:19.680 he's seen. Is he coaching him on PR Probably? Yes? 534 00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.559 Did across the line and make you uncomfortable and be uncomfortable? 535 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.559 Did it did? But at the end it also shows 536 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:28.559 how much Epstein had over Donald Trump and how much 537 00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.680 Donald Trump should have feared. Here's the email you and 538 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.359 I were talking about in the middle a minute ago, 539 00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.279 Victim's name blacked out. This went back with Michael Wolf 540 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:41.079 in twenty nineteen something about mar A Lago, another blackout. 541 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:46.960 Trump said, he asked me to resign. Never a member, ever, 542 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.880 Never a member of mar A Lago ever. Of course 543 00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:56.559 he knew about the girls, as he asked Glaine to 544 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:02.799 stop that's girls and stop not charging up at the grill. Yeah. 545 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.640 Well, like I said, anybody can make an argument depending 546 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.119 upon which side of the I want all the files. 547 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:12.920 I want the background, I want the specifics. I want 548 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.559 to know exactly what the what really means. But let 549 00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:19.599 me ask you this, because we are right now, based 550 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:21.480 upon like what you and I are doing right now, 551 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:26.759 just engaging in a conversation about possibilities, we are literally 552 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:32.880 watching a political earthquake where Trump is facing the largest 553 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:38.480 Republican rebellion so far of his presidency. People like Rand 554 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:44.839 Paul what's his name? Johnson, Mike Lee, even Marco Rubio 555 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:50.839 publicly demanding the full release of the Epstein file. How 556 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:55.000 unprecedented is this level of intra party mutiny? 557 00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:02.920 I mean it, If we're doing our jobs both here 558 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.720 on Maya Culpa on the Midas Touch network, then we 559 00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:11.680 are trying to find the points of division which should 560 00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:16.160 naturally cleave within the Republican Party, which is not has 561 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.960 not been completely taken over by Maga. MAGA is running 562 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.400 the show. But there are certainly what you and I 563 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.160 used to refer to as country club Republicans who have 564 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.480 never been totally comfortable or comfortable at all with Donald Trump. 565 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:36.640 And on major issues like this child sex trafficking lines 566 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.319 are being drawn. Right, We've seen it with Marjorie Taylor Green. 567 00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:41.400 I saw our interview on the View. I was like, 568 00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:42.839 who is this person? Right? 569 00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.240 She's now the north star of the Republican Party. 570 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.400 I mean, you say some crazy shit out loud that 571 00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.839 she thinks. It also shows that she thinks there is 572 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:56.599 a path away from Donald Trump. And yet have our 573 00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:00.640 own political survivor survival, which is to your point, are 574 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:06.200 there ways now to cannibalize this resistance within the trumpet 575 00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.320 within the MAGA world to our benefit? And there seems 576 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:14.800 to be some issues that people just won't support Trump on. 577 00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.960 I see him as losing his grip on power. The 578 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:23.800 economy is doing that. The heartlessness around the shutdown and 579 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:25.840 the snap benefits. I mean, you can say what you 580 00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.920 want about Americans and our political divide, but we want 581 00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.159 a president with a heart, and if we find that 582 00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.800 he doesn't have one and he's abusing the most underprivileged 583 00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:38.320 and fragile in our society, that doesn't play well in 584 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:40.880 Red states either. You know why. 585 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.559 Because they are the

recipients of snap benefits as well. 586 00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:48.760 They are the same recipients as the Democrats. So let 587 00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:51.119 me then ask you this, because then take all that 588 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:56.159 the cherry on the top of this insanity Sunday is 589 00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.480 Marjorie tail and Green and the Magabase. 590 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.400 Literally now openly. 591 00:35:01.119 --> 00:35:08.519 Blasting They're blasting Trump for protecting elites, protecting elites by 592 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.519 delaying the rest of the Epstein documents. So I want 593 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.320 to ask you what do you make of the let's 594 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.000 just call it the Frankenstein mob, accusing their creator of 595 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.760 going soft. And when I say soft, I'm not talking 596 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:24.920 about in bed like Stormy said, I'm trying to go 597 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.760 and soft in terms of on the protecting of the elites. 598 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:31.679 Yeah. Look, I think they've picked up pitchforks and torches. 599 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.599 They feel they have a political lane to occupy. Nancy Mace, 600 00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:41.039 you know, left that meeting with the survivors in tears. 601 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.559 Many of them say they were subjects of sexual abuse themselves. 602 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.840 I'm not outing anybody. This is them personally. Their personal 603 00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.440 stories they've told Nancy Mayce, Lauren Bobert, and Marjorie Taylergreen 604 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.320 have all said they were on the receiving end of 605 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.400 sexual abuse. So they take this thing seriously. Donald Trump, 606 00:35:55.400 --> 00:36:00.679 as once again, is clueless where to the shift narrative 607 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:03.719 underneath his own feet. See what got him as you know, 608 00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.840 and I know, well what got him elected? You know, 609 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:11.119 the governing and poetry, the campaigning in poetry, but having 610 00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.599 to governed in pros is biting him in the ass. 611 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.480 He feels like, oh, I'm the same guy, and I'm 612 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.239 the crypto guy. I'm the golden shower, sorry, the golden 613 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.920 bathroom guy. I'm the ballroom guy. Everybody loves me. They don't, 614 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.119 not when ten months of the Trump economy has ripped 615 00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:29.000 away people's dignity and crushed their hopes and dreams, and 616 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.920 him keeps saying it's it's great, it's the greatest economy 617 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:34.039 in the world. So he's got a Biden problem because 618 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.880 Biden also kept telling people, even though the numbers showed 619 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.639 it should be a better economy for people. We knew 620 00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.079 what we were, what we were paying for clothing and 621 00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.679 shelter and housing and food. Were like, is this what's 622 00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.079 this guy smoking? That he thinks the economy is good 623 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.440 and now the economy is worse than what Biden and 624 00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.679 it was. It was turning in a really great direction 625 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.480 right before the election. So you've got Donald Trump missing 626 00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:04.159 all of that overplaying his hand during the shutdown where 627 00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.000 he said, here's a great idea, I'll wreck the economy 628 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.480 even more while I golf at bar A Lago. See 629 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.039 that didn't go over well with the American people. We 630 00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.400 see it in the polling and at the election and 631 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.159 the election night last Tuesday. 632 00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.440 I mean, not only is he out there playing golf, 633 00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:24.440 not only is he there hosting parties, right, I mean 634 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:30.639 lavish also at the same time pardoning people who do 635 00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:36.440 not deserve pardons, right, including folks like George Santos and others. 636 00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.679 This is the problem what he's doing. He's behaving in 637 00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:46.639 a way that even his own base cannot stomach. But 638 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:53.239 here comes the classic Trump reflects. Instead of being transparent, 639 00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:58.519 what does he do. He's ordering Attorney General Pam Bondi 640 00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:03.599 to go out there and investigate Democrats like Bill Clinton, 641 00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:10.000 Barack Obama, Barack Obama. You got Bill Richardson, uh it Hood, 642 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.440 Barack Leon Black. I mean, he's got a whole slew 643 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.320 of them that he wants that he wants to uh 644 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:21.760 you have what's his name from LinkedIn Reed Hoffman, all 645 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:27.519 all of whom appear in portions of the Epstein file. 646 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:32.320 Is this law enforcement or do you think this is 647 00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.920 political smoke screen? Well? 648 00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:41.960 Both listen. I think that. I mean, I just did 649 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:45.400 a report about him using the Southern District of Florida's 650 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.079 prosecutor there. Who's a who's a meat puppet that they've 651 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.719 selected on purpose in order to go after his political enemies. 652 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.159 He's getting Mike Davis, you know, one of these right 653 00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:57.480 wingers that I thought was

gonna be the attorney general. 654 00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.800 God help us, A Laura Lumer type is pushing Trump 655 00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:04.400 to use the Southern District of Florida and get everything 656 00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.719 in front of Judge Alien Cannon, including using Grand Juris 657 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:11.840 in Fort Pierce to go after Barack Obama and others. 658 00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:16.440 And you know Brennan, former CIA director, has already said 659 00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:19.000 that he's getting he got a subpoena for things that 660 00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:21.880 happened in twenty sixteen. Now, let me just put a 661 00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:26.960 legal spit on this. There's only one crime that has 662 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.239 no statue of limitations that would be in play here, 663 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.440 treason and murder. Well, yeah, I'm talking about for sure 664 00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:37.639 political purposes treason. The rest have a five year statute 665 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.559 of limitations. So Donald Trump is going to have a 666 00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.159 meat puppet who got who? And I did a report 667 00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.079 on this guy who was who was written up for 668 00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:50.559 incompetency when he was an assistant US attorney in Miami. 669 00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.599 He's now heading the office. They're going to have him 670 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:57.599 go after people for treason in order to give Donald 671 00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:02.199 Trump political cover. I mean again, federal judges in the 672 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.079 Southern District of Florida, hopefully not named Alien Canon, are 673 00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.719 gonna have to stand up and protect our democracy. 674 00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.519 Sure, so let's turn around and let's just be crystal 675 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.559 clear about something. Let's assume that he gets it before 676 00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:19.440 Judge Cannon. Let's assume it, and let's assume that Barack 677 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:24.400 Obama is certainly not going to roll over. He's not 678 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.199 going to ask to get his belly rubbed. And Ben Denee, 679 00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:32.280 he'll fight it out. He'll fight it out. Do you 680 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:37.320 really think that there's twelve jurors that would ultimately hold 681 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:44.159 Barack Obama accountable for treason simply because Trump says so, 682 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:48.159 or because Pam Bondi says so. It'll be the biggest 683 00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:53.239 waste of taxpayer dollars in any case that I could put. 684 00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:56.719 He came after me in the Southern District, the federal 685 00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:00.719 Federal Southern District of Miami. I happen to gotten a 686 00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:03.760 great judge page. I know the judgement by just spinning 687 00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:07.039 of the wheel. And the only bad thing is that 688 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:09.920 the judge took too long. He should have issued the 689 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:14.440 decision immediately, which would have dismissed the case and I 690 00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.000 wouldn't have to be bothered. But then again, let's go 691 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:21.239 back to statute of limitations. The argument goes back to 692 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.400 even two thousand and seven. 693 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:27.519 Years old. 694 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.280 You're talking about you're talking about ten years, just about 695 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.119 eight nine, ten years. The statute of limitations is over 696 00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:39.719 two plus years on any charge that he wanted to break. 697 00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.880 But it still costs your money. That's the worst part. 698 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.239 But you know, Pak, you've said before that Trump governs 699 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:50.880 through projection. How much do you think this move is 700 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:55.239 Trump trying to shift the attention from the unanswered questions 701 00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:00.960 about his own relationship if any, with Epstein, and especially 702 00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:05.320 Epstein's presence at mar A Lago in the late nineties. 703 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.239 Yeah. Look, I think there's a couple of things going on. 704 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:12.039 One Donald Trump needs to be the great distractor and 705 00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:17.400 try to say he operates by what about is I 706 00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:19.159 might have done the bad things, but what about these 707 00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:22.719 guys and try to get the media hoard to go 708 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:26.440 in that direction to give him some political currency and 709 00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.440 mileage out of that. He's also on a clock. Let's 710 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:33.719 be frank. He's on a clock, both biological and political, 711 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:36.519 and the way he operates for me, I've called him 712 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:41.119 the incredible shrinking President. 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And I talked to especially Epstein's 806 00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:20.840 presence at Marra a lago, their relationship in the late eighties, 807 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.719 and you know, all the way through the late nineties, 808 00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:30.360 including into the two thousands, I get more stupid, stupid 809 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.199 people turning around and saying, oh, Michael Cohen was involved 810 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.199 in trying to pay off this individual when they. 811 00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:37.920 Were a child. 812 00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:40.840 I want to be clear to people, and I say 813 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.880 this all the time. In nineteen eighty eight, when I 814 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.159 think two of the people that are in that list 815 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.199 that are constantly going around, I was enjoying my fraternity 816 00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.280 prom in my senior year of college. 817 00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:57.039 I certainly wasn't. 818 00:48:56.840 --> 00:49:00.519 Paying off people for Donald Trump. I didn't know who well, 819 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:03.280 I knewho Donald was obviously is a New Yorker, but 820 00:49:03.719 --> 00:49:06.760 I didn't have a relationship, certainly to him. I didn't 821 00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:10.639 come into his orbit into late two thousand and five, 822 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:14.880 but did not become an employee until two thousand and seven. 823 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.960 For whatever the reason is, people can't get that through 824 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:23.440 their head, and I wish they would, because we constantly 825 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:27.119 you and I on our different programs Legal af might 826 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.320 just touched network political beat down here on Maya Culpa. 827 00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.880 We talk a lot about the legal boomerangs, right, such 828 00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:40.280 as you know, Trump's risks, one of which is opening 829 00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:46.320 up this Pandora's box by weaponizing investigations into these Democrats 830 00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:51.119 that I was just talking about. Because given that, PAMBONDI 831 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:55.480 will now have to explain at some point in time, 832 00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.519 especially especially if you're right and we're successful in the 833 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:05.519 in terms where at least at least the House turns Democrat, 834 00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:09.119 she will have to explain to a committee why did 835 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:16.519 DOJ never examine Trump's own connection to Jeffrey Epstein and 836 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:17.800 only these folks? 837 00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:24.480 Yeah, I mean in your question is your answer? That's 838 00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.519 your answer? I know my answer. What's your answer? 839 00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.920 My answer is she's going to get dragged before a committee. Yeah, 840 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.920 and she is going to have to explain why why 841 00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:42.079 are you investigating Barack Obama or Read Hoffman or JP 842 00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:44.599 Morgan Chase, What about the Trump organism? 843 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:48.320 What about you, mister Cohen? Mister Cohen, you work for 844 00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.119 Donald Trump. You were once in a photo with him, 845 00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.480 and so you have the temerity to challenge my ethics. 846 00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:57.639 I could do Pam Bondi for you right now, but 847 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.760 that doesn't help. That is the thing that's lost on 848 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.920 the Trump administration is the thing that's that satisfies your 849 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.679 old client and makes him happy and giddy at day 850 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.239 and high fiving whoever is in his inner circle, Stephen 851 00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:14.159 Miller or whoever's sitting there. When when Pam Bondy or 852 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:18.400 Cash Bettel look ridiculous in front of the American people, 853 00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:21.119 is that this does not cover them with any glory. 854 00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:25.760 When Pam Bondy, obviously is never other than her confirmation hearing, 855 00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.920 is never going to answer a straight question posed to 856 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:34.639 her by a Democrat in their oversight capacity. Ever, again, 857 00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.199 it's not going

to change. She did not learn from 858 00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:39.360 the bad press that you and I and others gave 859 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:41.599 her from her last appearance that she needs to do 860 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:43.360 better at the next one. Like a debate. You know, 861 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.320 when the presidents like crap the bed during one of 862 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.960 the debates, like Obama was listless during one, Al Gore 863 00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:50.599 needs to do it. She's not gonna fuck, She's not 864 00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.320 gonna f and learn from her from that she's gonna 865 00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.519 do the right things, And I asked by the way 866 00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:59.920 I asked Blumenthal. Senator Blumenthal came on the show about 867 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.800 a week after about his back and forth with her. 868 00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:06.079 I said, were you prepared for her? I mean, I 869 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:07.960 know you didn't go first, but were you prepared for 870 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:11.280 her to just go after you instead of answering a question? 871 00:52:11.559 --> 00:52:14.199 He goes, yeah, we quickly pivoted. We figured out she 872 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.199 was going to come in with talking of the palm 873 00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:19.679 card for each of us. But how do you think, Michael, 874 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:22.360 listen to you, But again, you think that played well 875 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:23.440 in front of the American people? 876 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.119 So the answer is the answer is it did to 877 00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:30.599 their base. They were but it's it's big enough that 878 00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:33.840 he won the election. But here's the problem. He didn't 879 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:35.519 win the election with the base, I. 880 00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.719 Mean with enough people. He certainly won the election. 881 00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:41.599 So those folks that voted for him like the fact 882 00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:45.000 that his people are fighting from However, there's a big 883 00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:48.440 difference when it comes to this Epstein bullshit. There's a 884 00:52:48.480 --> 00:52:54.079 big difference because Republicans will ask the same question as Democrats. 885 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:56.360 Let me tell you, they say that there's a hundred 886 00:52:56.440 --> 00:53:00.519 Republicans now that are calling for the release of the 887 00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:03.480 Epstein file. So if you now are sitting on one 888 00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:07.280 of those committees in between the House and the Senate 889 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.719 until that's listen to what I read in a month, 890 00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:15.239 that's for sure, you know, but imagine, imagine if that's true. 891 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:19.400 Imagine if it's true, and it's the reason why Democrats 892 00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.519 are calling for the vote and not just accepting what 893 00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:26.519 Maga Mike Johnson want, which is okay, fine, we're going 894 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:29.119 to acknowledge it and then bring it to the floor 895 00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.760 without taking a vote. Why are the Democrats doing it because, motherfucker, 896 00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.960 we want to know. We want to know which asshole 897 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.800 is willing to say no to the release of the 898 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.639 file and not allow them to escape as these midterms 899 00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:48.280 are coming. That's why Mike Johnson, with his pink cheeks 900 00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:52.280 and his and his you know, miss Scara, are sitting 901 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.199 there and turning around and playing this game. All right, 902 00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:59.039 They can't bullshit the American people anymore. 903 00:53:59.280 --> 00:53:59.440 Where. 904 00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:02.519 There's too many of us out there that are feeding 905 00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:04.719 truth to power like you. 906 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:07.719 Yeah, look, look, this is one of the reasons I 907 00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:09.639 think you and I get up in the morning and 908 00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:12.559 start our day. See the difference between us and the 909 00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:15.360 Trump administration or anybody in it. Is that you and 910 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:17.159 I and others on the Midas Touch Network. I just 911 00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:19.760 had Adam Makler on who You've had them on as well. 912 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:22.199 The first thing I think about as soon as besides 913 00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:26.039 my family. The second thing I think about is what 914 00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:29.199 we can do to bring truth to each other first 915 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.719 and then bring truth to power. What is the new 916 00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:34.639 information I need to curate for my audience, your audience 917 00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:37.519 that they need to know in order to take to 918 00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.960 the streets and debate and understand the issues and without 919 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.440 without smoke or sunshine. The first thing that Trump administration 920 00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:47.880 thinks about in the morning, let's be honest, is a 921 00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:52.320 their portfolio. And second, how they can screw the American 922 00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.679 people and those that they consider beneath them, which is 923 00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:59.760 the majority of America who aren't millionaires and billionaires. That is, 924 00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.639 that does not that does not make for honest service, 925 00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:06.639 That does not make for doing right by the people 926 00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:09.320 in the people's house for which you were elected. That 927 00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:13.039 sets you off automatically in

the wrong direction. 928 00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.480 And look, the one thing that you're now getting my 929 00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:22.480 Maya Kulpa followers, obviously you know my relationship to Trump 930 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.760 and to the family. You just may not be aware 931 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:29.559 that Michael Popak used to be involved and worked with 932 00:55:29.679 --> 00:55:30.480 Howard Lutnik. 933 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:32.840 Did you just help me? I just did? 934 00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:36.159 I outed you? So you actually so you actually know 935 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:39.679 exactly what He wakes up and looks at how did 936 00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:41.559 the market do yesterday? How much am I up? 937 00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:42.440 How much am I down? 938 00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:44.679 And is today going to be a day that I 939 00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.760 need to speak to Sachs to find out what's happening 940 00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:50.519 with bitcoin so that I can tell my family and 941 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:52.199 that they can go ahead and make sure that they 942 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.239 get the right, you know, the right algorithm going. 943 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:58.039 I just did a hot take today about Bloomberg reporting 944 00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:02.159 that Canter Fitzgerald the family off for Howard Lutnik, run 945 00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:04.920 by his two who his two sons, which I refer 946 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:06.840 to as I've never knew a family that had two 947 00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:11.599 Fredos are running in the company. It's up twenty five percent, 948 00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.840 their best year ever, and they go, it's just totally 949 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:18.440 coincidental that our father's the Commerce secretary and we get 950 00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:20.239 to hang out with everybody in the White House and 951 00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.320 look how much money we're making. Like, does anybody believe 952 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:26.320 that you got the report that Scott Bessett the Treasury 953 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:30.000 secretary is evading taxes. He set up offshore accounts to 954 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:33.719 avoid Medicare and Solid security taxes for his companies. That's 955 00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:36.280 in the New York Times. You've got Bloomberg reporting about 956 00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.639 all the money that Canter Fitzgerald's making while their daddy's 957 00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:40.639 and is in the WIT is in the inner circle 958 00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:41.400 of the White House. 959 00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.119 Look, I'm not worthy the amount or the amount of 960 00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:47.480 money that the Trump organization has taken in since Donald 961 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:51.079 became president. How about not you know I've heard, Oh, 962 00:56:51.199 --> 00:56:54.320 Donald Trump has increased his net worth by three billion dollars. 963 00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:55.280

Fuck you, you're wrong. 964 00:56:55.559 --> 00:56:58.440 It's ten billion least in this shit up, it's ten 965 00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:03.400 billion at least justin crypt is truth Social, Just truth 966 00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:06.400 Social is over four billion based upon the number of 967 00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.559 shares that he owns his crypto three here to here, 968 00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.159 I'm telling you. And then all the deals that he 969 00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.280 has going on, all of the money. Jared Kushner with 970 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.880 his two plus billion dollars in a fund that has 971 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:19.760 yet to invest a single dollar. 972 00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:22.400 But Michael, you're not being fair. What are you doing 973 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.320 with your Doge dividend check? What are you doing with 974 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:28.519 your healthcare dividend check? What are you doing with your 975 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.599 tariff return check? What are you doing with it? 976 00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:33.639 You mean with the two thousand dollars I'm supposed to 977 00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:36.960 one day hopefully maybe get you guys twenty because the 978 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:40.119 twenty eight trillion that's sitting on the tariff shelf, that's 979 00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:43.119 one big fucking shelf to have twenty eight trillion dollars. 980 00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.920 Every time is in trouble, he waves around a phony 981 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:48.679 check like he's at McMahon at your door with like, 982 00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:52.639 you know, the sweep steaks. You know you're not taking easy. 983 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.719 I represented Ed McMahon. I like it. I'm not. I'm 984 00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:58.119 not tying Ed McMahon of the Epstein scandal. I'm already 985 00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:01.440 mentioning him. Okay, Johnny. 986 00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:05.599 Meanwhile, let me ask you this because Pambondy and dear 987 00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:12.280 Donald are escalating this stupidity even further. They've now announced 988 00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:17.559 that they're intending to sue California over Proposition fifty about 989 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:23.559 the redistricting map. The case they've entered. Right that, now, 990 00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:28.840 think about this. Gavin Newsom put out Proposition fifty. The 991 00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:34.599 people of California voted on it with an overwhelming sixty 992 00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:40.400 four percent approval for Prop fifty to redistrict the state 993 00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:45.199 they are now suing. However, you know who they're not suing. 994 00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.159 They're not suing Texas, They're not suing was a Missouri. 995 00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:51.800 They're not suing any of the other states that are 996 00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:56.880 actually doing this, only California. So how blatant would you say, 997 00:58:57.199 -->

00:58:58.800 is this selective enforcement? 998 00:58:59.079 --> 00:59:02.000 Well, let's let's just call it out right now. Har 999 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:05.280 Meat Dylan, who's the head of the Civil Rights Division 1000 00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:07.159 of the Department of Justice, if you can call it that, 1001 00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.920 because nothing really is left of it's in shambles, had 1002 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.480 a law firm. The law firm is called the Law 1003 00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:15.960 Firm of Harme Meat Dylan Dylan Law. Dylan Law brought 1004 00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:20.159 the original lawsuit by a young member of the House 1005 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:25.119 in California to challenge Prop fifty a day after the 1006 00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:28.199 election after sixty seven percent or sixty five percent of 1007 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:31.920 the electorate voted for the new maps. He then the 1008 00:59:31.960 --> 00:59:35.639 representative then files the suit. Civil Rights Division, run by 1009 00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.719 Harmeat Dylan filed a motion to intervene in the case 1010 00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:43.039 in a case brought by her old law firm. Or 1011 00:59:43.199 --> 00:59:44.559 that does that tell you everything you need to know 1012 00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:48.599 about the scandal? Written Department of Justice under Donald Trump. 1013 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.880 Yeah, I mean so, then zoom out for a quick 1014 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:58.000 moment here, what constitutional precedent does it actually set when 1015 00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:01.119 a sitting president of the United the States uses the 1016 01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:07.639 DOJ to selectively punish blue states while literally protecting red 1017 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:12.039 states that are doing the same exact thing but worse. 1018 01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.239 You see, like for example, Texas Governor Abbott, he didn't 1019 01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:19.920 bring the vote to the people. He went ahead and 1020 01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:24.239 he made the decision himself. They pushed it through. California 1021 01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:28.440 has a different scenario. So Gavin Newsom did it appropriately. 1022 01:00:28.760 --> 01:00:30.840 He brought it to the people who voted on it, 1023 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.239 and again sixty four percent said, yeah, this is what 1024 01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:34.880 we want to do. 1025 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.519 Power the people, right, yeah, I mean the president here, 1026 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:42.800 everything with Trump's name on it at the Supreme Court 1027 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:45.760 level has been a terrible set of precedents. We have 1028 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:48.280 to look to the circuit courts to kind of do 1029 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:51.440 justice here because whenever they because the Supreme Court doesn't 1030 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:53.280 have their back, We're going to see what they're going 1031 01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:56.199 to do next. About the National Guard, briefing is in 1032 01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:59.480 now about the National Guard and its use in Chicago, 1033 01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:02.800 but it hasmifications around the country. As the Supreme Court 1034 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:06.280 finally weighs in about the militarization of the state militia. 1035 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.480 You know the fact that nobody at the Supreme Court 1036 01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:16.079 level is willing to call out this vindictive retaliation against 1037 01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:20.760 the Blue states and the blue cities masquerading as objective 1038 01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:25.239 policy or war power or foreign affairs power of a 1039 01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:26.920 president is really galling. 1040 01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:30.199 And you know when they will popak. You know when 1041 01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:33.840 they will whether when he turns on them then all 1042 01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:36.320 of a sudden. You know, it's like that old expression. Right, 1043 01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:39.159 first they went after the socialist. I wasn't a socialists, 1044 01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:42.239 so I didn't say anything, and so on. Right, it's 1045 01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:48.920 the same thing these Supreme Court assholes literally assholes who 1046 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:51.639 turned around and they're like, well, they're not coming after me. 1047 01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.239 What do you think is going to happen when the 1048 01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:55.280 tariffs it pulled down? 1049 01:01:55.639 --> 01:01:56.320 Absolutely? 1050 01:01:56.360 --> 01:02:00.639 What's going to happen when hypothetically he I don't know, 1051 01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:04.079 takes full control over government. So I don't even need 1052 01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:08.079 a Supreme Court anymore. I am the Supreme Court. I'm 1053 01:02:08.119 --> 01:02:11.559 the king, I'm the queen, I'm the I'm the jester, 1054 01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.559 I'm the nobility. I am at all. I don't need 1055 01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:15.599 a Supreme Court. 1056 01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:19.440 Well, during the tariff argument, I said, if I were 1057 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:21.719 an advocate before, and I've argued it at pellet courts, 1058 01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:24.119 just not at the Supreme Court level US Supreme Court level, 1059 01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:27.400 I would have said to them when we were talking 1060 01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:31.639 about tariffs, let's just take it out of the world 1061 01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:36.599 of Article one tariffs and taxing and Article two foreign Affairs, 1062 01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.719 and let's turn it to Article three the courts, and 1063 01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:42.599 I would have gestured to them it would it be 1064 01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:47.920 okay for the president under foreign affairs power of Article 1065 01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.880 two to declare that he needs a

separate, parallel set 1066 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:58.840 of courts to deal with economic issues on an international stage. 1067 01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:03.880 Take away power that's non delegable from Article three judges 1068 01:03:03.880 --> 01:03:06.400 that you had, Is that okay? And I would just 1069 01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:10.440 sit back and let the feeding frenzy begin. Yeah, And 1070 01:03:10.480 --> 01:03:14.000 you know what they'd say, Oh no, that's different, we're articles. Well, 1071 01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:17.280 how is it different if Congress? How can you take 1072 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:21.159 a core constitutional power away from Congress and have it 1073 01:03:21.239 --> 01:03:24.400 ripped away and given to the president. Why can't he 1074 01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:28.000 take your power to run courts? True? 1075 01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:30.039 So I want to shift for a moment, because we 1076 01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:31.719 don't have a lot of time left, but I want 1077 01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:36.519 to shift to Virginia, the state of Virginia. If Lindsey Halligan, 1078 01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:45.679 Trump's former lawyer actually right stays and remains Attorney general, 1079 01:03:46.840 --> 01:03:50.599 what does it mean for her promised crusade against Komi 1080 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:57.719 and others over their supposed, you know, misconduct. 1081 01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:01.599 Your question is if she stays in or she's bounced, Judge. 1082 01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:07.079 If she stays in, if Curry keeps her, yes, I 1083 01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:10.840 don't see that happening. But okay, I mean it could. 1084 01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:13.559 Anything's possible. I just don't think, Judge. All right, So 1085 01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:16.039 let's back up. There was a hearing in Alexandria, Virginia, 1086 01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:20.079 presided over by Judge Curry, sitting by designation from South Carolina. 1087 01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:24.880 The issue was Letitia James and James Cobey's consolidated motion 1088 01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:29.000 to bounce Lindsay Halligan as illegally appointed under the boat 1089 01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:32.639 the Constitution in under a statute. The way that hearing went, 1090 01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:35.679 and I had Adam Klassfeld from All Rise News in there, 1091 01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:37.800 and he was outside the courtroom doing reporting for me, 1092 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:42.239 I would be shocked if Judge Curry kept Lindsay Halligan in. 1093 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.599 Every judge that's ever looked at this issue, it has 1094 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:49.760 bounced the the Trump appointee as being illegally appointed, and 1095 01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:51.679 I don't think she's going to be any different. The 1096 01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:53.440 only thing I think she's struggling with is what does 1097 01:04:53.480 --> 01:04:56.239 she do with the indictment that she kicked the indictment 1098 01:04:56.519 --> 01:04:59.599 because of Lindsay Halligan's involvement. I think that's a harder 1099 01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:02.960 call for I think the call of whether Section five 1100 01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:07.119 forty six was violated by the second the second interim 1101 01:05:07.239 --> 01:05:09.599 us attorney being appointed for Eastern District, but you can 1102 01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:11.679 only appoint one. I don't think that's a hard call. 1103 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.960 If she somehow dodges, dodges the bullet that you've just 1104 01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:18.239 that I've just described, and she stays in, I mean, 1105 01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:20.199 I don't. I mean, what's your fear she's going to 1106 01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:22.199 become more vindictive? They're already vindictive. 1107 01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:25.719 No, not more vindictive. I just think that the prosecution 1108 01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.280 is going to become more vindictive, meaning against Comie and 1109 01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:33.840 Tiss James and so on. But compare this then to 1110 01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:35.960 what happened with Alina Habba. 1111 01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:39.960 So okay, well Alina, Well, it's a different allegedly a 1112 01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.480 different statute. However, I think the result ends up being 1113 01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:47.199 the same. Place. One is the interim us attorney, one 1114 01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:51.199 is the acting US attorney. One's under Section five forty six. 1115 01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:55.519 The other is under another statute. However, that statute was 1116 01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:58.760 also violated. That statute is well, she was the number 1117 01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:01.440 two and then she was elevated to the number one. 1118 01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:05.280 But okay, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals three judge 1119 01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:07.559 panel held their oral argument a month ago. We're just 1120 01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:10.280 waiting on the decision. I would be shocked there if 1121 01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:14.519 the Third Circuit didn't support the lower court judge who 1122 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.920 said Alena Habba was illegally appointed. Now, that's not going 1123 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.840 to help the guy that brought the case, this drug 1124 01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.679 dealer to indicted drug smuggler, gun smuggler. I don't think 1125 01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:28.440 he's getting his indictment kicked. But there again, I'll come 1126 01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:30.239 back on with you. I'd be shocked at the Third 1127 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.719 Circuit keeps Alna Haba in. I think she's out, and 1128 01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:35.559 I think then Trump's going to have to take this 1129 01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:37.840 to the United States Supreme Court. There is, though I 1130 01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:41.239 want to manage expectations. There is a separation of powers 1131 01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:44.039 problem

here which the Supreme Court may end up weighing on. 1132 01:06:44.159 --> 01:06:47.719 And that is this, as much as we don't like it, 1133 01:06:48.119 --> 01:06:56.320 the prosecutors US attorneys are under the executive branch. Some 1134 01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:58.239 people from foreign countries are like, aren't they with the 1135 01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:02.639 judicial branch? No, or the executive branch. So it is 1136 01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:07.320 a little weird that Congress had in their statue that 1137 01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:12.840 if the president doesn't get around to getting a confirmed 1138 01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:16.599 pick for the US Attorney, the remedy is that the 1139 01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:23.679 judges Article three judges pick the executive branch prosecutor. See, 1140 01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:27.000 that's a little weird. That's never been litigated. But you 1141 01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:30.679 could just see the MAGA six going, that's the violation 1142 01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:32.320 of the separation of powers. 1143 01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:35.239 You can see it come and make it real easy. 1144 01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:38.639 So look, final question, because the owl goes by unfortunately 1145 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:42.000 had about thousand more questions for you. But knowing Trump 1146 01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:45.719 like we, do you think he's still convinced that he 1147 01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:48.519 can con his way through all of this, whether it's 1148 01:07:48.599 --> 01:07:55.719 leaning on Pambondi, weaponizing folks like Halligan, manipulating these releases, 1149 01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:00.760 skating passed accountability on Epstein at least one more time. 1150 01:08:02.239 --> 01:08:03.639 Do you think he knows what? Do you think he 1151 01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:05.800 knows that that his goose is cooked? 1152 01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:07.480 I think he knows his goose is cooked. I think 1153 01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:10.320 he's operating, as I said earlier, I think he's operating 1154 01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:13.159 like a person who knows he's on borrowed time, and 1155 01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:16.479 he knows it's almost like a It's almost like somebody 1156 01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:19.199 that got a diagnosis from a doctor telling him he's 1157 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:22.039 only got a year to live. He I think he 1158 01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:24.680 thinks he's got a very very short amount of time 1159 01:08:24.920 --> 01:08:29.800 to continue to implement his and hope that if he 1160 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:33.239 slows down the bad things like the Epstein scandal, and 1161 01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:37.199 that the economy somehow comes roaring back six months from 1162 01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.039 now from where it is right now, that the American 1163 01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:43.920 people feel it, they forget about him punishing poor people, 1164 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:48.560 They forget about the Epstein scandal, and somehow the because

1165 01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:51.159 of the way they're going to change the maps, there's 1166 01:08:51.359 --> 01:08:55.039 enough new Republican seats created, and we're waiting on the 1167 01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:57.520 Supreme Court ruling, which is not going to be favorable 1168 01:08:57.840 --> 01:09:01.319 for the Democrats, the Voting Rights Act. If he gets 1169 01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:05.840 all that scramble, he thinks he can part of him 1170 01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:08.920 maybe twenty thirty percent thinks he can win the midterms. 1171 01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.000 But if he doesn't, he's ft because the House of 1172 01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.159 the Senate will be returned to the Democrats, which will 1173 01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:18.199 spend the rest of the next two years holding him 1174 01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:22.159 accountable and driving him crazy and maybe even not maybe 1175 01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:24.039 certainly impeaching him. 1176 01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:28.680 Well, Michael Popock, thank you, my friend. You make us smarter, 1177 01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:31.760 You make me smarter. I hope to see you soon. 1178 01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:35.399 You will, I'm not sure. I'm not sure as it 1179 01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:38.920 relates to the Supreme Court. And that's what makes me nervous. 1180 01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:43.439 It's why everybody please follow Michael Popack, follow Legal laf 1181 01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:46.600 make sure that you join our community or might just 1182 01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:50.640 touch network community for the sole purpose of ensuring that 1183 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:54.520 are twenty twenty six midterm elections go exactly the way. 1184 01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:57.319 We need them to. Absolutely, Thank you, Michael, my. 1185 01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:01.520 Brother, you too, And now for today's may have. You know, 1186 01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:05.359 there's a rule in American prisons that everyone learns fast. 1187 01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:10.359 Equality is a slogan, not a practice. You see, the 1188 01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:15.600 system talks about uniformity, same jumpsuit, same chow, same cell. 1189 01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:20.439 But that illusion evaporates the moment that someone with real power, 1190 01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:24.079 with money or proximity to it walks through the gates. 1191 01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:28.600 And nowhere is that hypocrisy more obscene than in the 1192 01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:33.319 gilded treatment of Gallaine Maxwell. My friends, I'm not gonna 1193 01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:36.439 fucking sugarcoat it. I'm not gonna sugarcoat what she is. 1194 01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:40.560 She is the architect, the curator, and the concierge of 1195 01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:44.520 Jeffrey Epstein's depravity. She is a woman who greased the 1196 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:48.640 gears of a global exploitation ring, who ferried girls to 1197 01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:50.000 powerful men like. 1198 01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:51.439 They were party favors. 1199 01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:57.079 She didn't just witness evil, she fucking operationalized it. And 1200 01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:02.319 yet yet somehow she is living a lifestyle inside federal 1201 01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:06.399 custody that doesn't resemble the experience of any real inmate 1202 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:08.880 that I've ever met, including me. 1203 01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:11.800 I mean, start with the basics. 1204 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:16.359 Access to computers in any federal facility. That's not even 1205 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.800 a privilege that is granted. It's like I don't know 1206 01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:25.159 the nuclear codes. But gallaned she has access on demand, 1207 01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.920 I mean, not monitored in the usual way, not rationed 1208 01:11:29.079 --> 01:11:33.439 like oxygen available. I mean, she's got a service dog 1209 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:36.039 in federal prison, for God's sakes. I mean, you've got 1210 01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:39.560 to be shitting me. I mean, I've seen inmates beg 1211 01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:43.720 for medical care only to be told to fucking kick rocks. 1212 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:47.239 But she gets a four legged companion in her cubicle, 1213 01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:50.079 like this is some sort of a fucking wellness retreat 1214 01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.720 and food. Come on, let me tell you what food 1215 01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:57.560 delivery looks like for the average inmate. Brown slop on 1216 01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:01.199 a tray that shoved through a slot, or prepared by 1217 01:12:01.239 --> 01:12:05.840 the same institution that thinks fruits and vegetables are optional luxuries. 1218 01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.640 Maxwell she gets her meals brought to her cubicle directly. 1219 01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:13.960 I mean, in a system where men and women will 1220 01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:19.039 literally fight physical fist fights over an extra packet of mustard. 1221 01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:24.439 She's receiving concierge service. Now here's the part that really 1222 01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:28.640 burns my ass. In federal custody, when you have an issue, 1223 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:32.159 you get moved. When staff had an issue with you, 1224 01:12:32.520 --> 01:12:37.399 they get moved or fired. That's the standard playbook. But 1225 01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:40.680 when I became inconvenient to Trump and his goons, when 1226 01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:43.520 the President of the United States decided that I needed 1227 01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:46.560 to be silenced because I refuse to, i don't know, 1228 01:12:46.680 --> 01:12:50.560 not print a book, suddenly the rules weren't just bent, 1229 01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:55.760 they were inverted. They were weaponized. They punished me more harshly, 1230 01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:59.880 more creatively, more aggressively than anyone else in the building. 1231 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:05.600 I wasn't transferred. No, they didn't terminate problems staff. They 1232 01:13:05.680 --> 01:13:08.399 tightened the screws. They locked me down, They cut off 1233 01:13:08.399 --> 01:13:13.720 my communication. They threw me into solitary confinement. Retaliation was 1234 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:18.760 the point, not the consequence. Because Trump wanted it, Bill 1235 01:13:18.880 --> 01:13:22.920 Barr wanted it, and everyone down that fucking chain they 1236 01:13:23.039 --> 01:13:27.439 followed orders. So when I look at Maxwell's situation, the 1237 01:13:27.479 --> 01:13:31.840 special perks, the kid glove handling, the bizarre deference, I'm 1238 01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:36.760 not just disturbed by it. I'm furious because prison it's 1239 01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:41.439 supposed to flatten hierarchy, not reinforce it. But here we are. 1240 01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:45.000 The woman at the heart of one of the darkest 1241 01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:50.520 crimes of our generation is being pampered, protected and insulated. 1242 01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:56.039 And meanwhile, the guy who told the truth about Trump me, well, 1243 01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:01.560 I got the punishment that she earned. Is always thanks 1244 01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:04.920 for listening, it says my. 1245 01:14:05.520 --> 01:14:06.800 May I'll come back. 1246 01:14:07.279 --> 01:14:09.920 Oh baby, don't laugh for me if I tell you 1247 01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:10.640 my story. 1248 01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:14.640 Don't cry for me at a time that's trun about me, 1249 01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:16.279 he says. 1250 01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:17.399 It's fairly I go. 1251 01:14:19.119 --> 01:14:23.279 If you dance with the death, it's gonna go down. 1252 01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:28.279 Tell the truth. It's now never. 1253 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:33.039 Baby, but your bad, old baby, put your bad. 1254 01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:37.880 This is mine, he says. 1255 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:40.319 My my bab I'll come back. 1256 01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:45.600 It's coming ontown and you know where I'm going. 1257 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:48.359 I'm bringing it on down, bring it on down, bringing 1258 01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:49.079 it on down,