Full Transcript for How Yaxel Changes Everything - with Dieter Kurtenbach

03:42.416 [SPEAKER_02]: It's already happening. 03:42.536 --> 03:43.837 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's only room to grow from there. 03:43.877 --> 03:45.317 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not as much as these other guys. 03:45.377 --> 03:51.899 [SPEAKER_02]: But I keep saying that so many NBA draft players have been, you know, sacrificed at the altar of upside. 03:52.259 --> 03:54.239 [SPEAKER_02]: Like at a certain point, give me something. 03:54.319 --> 03:55.540 [SPEAKER_02]: Give me something to talk about. 03:55.960 --> 03:59.240 [SPEAKER_02]: So you have this now and you have him cheap. 03:59.801 --> 04:01.461 [SPEAKER_02]: You have him for his prime years. 04:02.141 --> 04:04.102 [SPEAKER_02]: And you have him at a time where you needed 04:05.642 --> 04:27.388 [SPEAKER_02]: which no one saw coming, more than ever with Jimmy Butler out, and this feels like the most because of him and a lot of other really good players, but because of him unlocking all of this and making these non-staff line-ups feel viable on a nightly basis, and the non-staff games feel viable somehow when those happen and they're going to be more frequent. 04:27.528 --> 04:28.889 [SPEAKER_02]: You have a team that 04:33.070 --> 04:33.590 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take it. 04:33.910 --> 04:42.475 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take that all, see one 37 games last year and ran back the same damn roster and their big signing doesn't play basketball anymore. 04:42.835 --> 04:49.318 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll take competent all day every day and I don't care if you got it by hook, hook, hook, luck or something else. 04:49.498 --> 04:57.302 [SPEAKER_02]: It is, it is a really fun watch to just see competent basketball on a nightly basis and who knows, maybe they can skip the pit 05:01.009 --> 05:02.153 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, completely agree. 05:02.273 --> 05:03.437 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's interesting, too. 05:03.477 --> 05:07.811 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Deeter headed right on the head with the... 05:08.710 --> 05:15.234 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Yax, if he goes to Dallas, if Dusty May says no, instead of Morris Jr., I think we should draft Yax. 05:15.614 --> 05:16.835 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he plays this well. 05:16.975 --> 05:23.019 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the combination of their roster limits what he's been able to do with ours. 05:23.099 --> 05:25.461 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the perfect situation for him to walk into. 05:26.041 --> 05:27.802 [SPEAKER_00]: Steph drags all the gravity out. 05:27.862 --> 05:31.785 [SPEAKER_00]: He gets some confidence and then Steph sits to rest and then he gets to go off for 05:34.482 --> 05:40.827 [SPEAKER_00]: So nobody saw a coming, otherwise destiny may would have drafted him over it, you know, like a few other teams probably too. 05:41.427 --> 05:46.151 [SPEAKER_00]: So we did get a little bit lucky there, but it's great. 05:46.271 --> 05:56.558 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it's turned the season around to the point to where I'm not watching every game, like with, you know, through a finger

with both of my hands over my eyes. 05:56.618 --> 06:00.061 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think, you know, like, 06:00.761 --> 06:22.901 [SPEAKER_00]: It's completely changed the narrative now you look at it and you're like if Jimmy comes back in it for some reason we're able to flip porzing us into like a miles turner type of player like all of a sudden like this could be another dark core season where we could sneak in and do some damage and have a deep run so you know it all weirdly goes back to 06:23.702 --> 06:40.379 [SPEAKER_00]: The axle just being a player that is old enough and experienced enough and talented enough that at 610 one of our tallest players and he just happens to be able to do all the things that we've been wanting from Jonathan Komingo over so many seasons and never got. 06:40.979 --> 06:43.461 [SPEAKER_00]: It always comes back to JK, but I'm with you. 06:43.801 --> 06:44.482 [SPEAKER_02]: You can't watch. 06:44.502 --> 06:58.071 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there is part of this axle thing which is just all the years of JK nonsense and now sort of the exact opposite Bizarro Kominga shows up. 06:58.811 --> 07:01.533 [SPEAKER_02]: And I do think that that leads to some of the firver. 07:01.573 --> 07:11.741 [SPEAKER_02]: And part of the reason why I was generally skeptical, it's like, yeah, of course you find the exact opposite of a Jonathan Kominga and then anything that he does feels incredible. 07:11.761 --> 07:16.605 [SPEAKER_02]: But the issue is, you watch him and you're like, it's not perfect. 07:17.345 --> 07:18.806 [SPEAKER_02]: But what if a hole's in his game? 07:19.246 --> 07:20.787 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what is it that he's not good at? 07:20.947 --> 07:24.308 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's clearly, like, overtly extremely coachable. 07:25.129 --> 07:28.690 [SPEAKER_02]: And the Bizarro Kominga stuff is really, really strong. 07:28.790 --> 07:29.591 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, what? 07:30.311 --> 07:31.872 [SPEAKER_02]: Kominga didn't work out in this guy. 07:32.112 --> 07:33.472 [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard for me to believe it. 07:33.592 --> 07:37.034 [SPEAKER_02]: It won't continue to work out because who do you throw on him? 07:37.054 --> 07:38.915 [SPEAKER_02]: What body do you throw on him defensively? 07:39.255 --> 07:42.696 [SPEAKER_02]: And he unlocks so many things, not just with, you know, the staff line-ups and stuff. 07:43.017 --> 07:45.678 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's unlocks so much just playing next to Pajemski. 07:46.198 --> 07:46.859 [SPEAKER_02]: which is huge. 07:47.099 --> 07:49.120 [SPEAKER_02]: And then that's a lot of pajams get a level up. 07:49.601 --> 07:57.527 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, allowing Melton to not have to actually be a point guard and giving Brandon Williams a chance to actually get some reps where he can play off of that. 07:57.547 --> 08:00.649 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's steeper loves to use the word connector. 08:00.709 --> 08:01.890 [SPEAKER_02]: I always roll my eyes at it. 08:01.910 --> 08:02.851

[SPEAKER_02]: I know exactly what he means. 08:02.871 --> 08:03.852 [SPEAKER_02]: He just over uses it. 08:04.272 --> 08:11.538 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Yax is a connector in that he might not be able to play every position, but he can augment every other position. 08:12.098 --> 08:13.319 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's awesome. 08:13.519 --> 08:14.280 [SPEAKER_01]: He's helped every day. 08:14.360 --> 08:16.761 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, working backwards. 08:17.321 --> 08:22.525 [SPEAKER_01]: I used to feel awkward talking about Jonathan coming in and the whole JK experience and it felt like a waste. 08:22.625 --> 08:24.126 [SPEAKER_01]: Yaxel has been such a revelation. 08:24.146 --> 08:25.667 [SPEAKER_01]: I've got no problem looking back on it now. 08:25.707 --> 08:26.187 [SPEAKER_01]: It's fine. 08:26.227 --> 08:26.887 [SPEAKER_01]: We can move on. 08:26.907 --> 08:27.368 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no. 08:27.628 --> 08:32.631 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like finding yourself in a happy relationship and looking back at the last one that ended poorly and now it's fine. 08:32.831 --> 08:34.032 [SPEAKER_01]: But the other's never advised to me. 08:34.272 --> 08:35.112 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't mean it. 08:35.392 --> 08:35.993 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing. 08:36.073 --> 08:36.553 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just guessing. 08:36.573 --> 08:37.174 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've heard. 08:37.194 --> 08:37.694 [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard tell. 08:38.054 --> 08:58.345 [SPEAKER_01]: the the bonus that both of you guys have identified and I want to put my finger on as well is the judo like move of him taking what was viewed as a weakness his age and now making it this enormous strength and it's twofold one you see someone like Janice it takes a minute to grow up and get that grown man strength that took Janice three to four years. 08:58.765 --> 09:02.286 [SPEAKER_01]: Yaxel to borrow Jimmy Butler's phrase is enormous. 09:02.726 --> 09:14.750 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a huge human being who can already use all of his physicality and for a team that he's the win right now, we didn't have three or four years for him to slowly feel himself, but the other portion of this is. 09:15.130 --> 09:21.391 [SPEAKER_01]: So this isn't over simplification, but NBA players reach their primes at about 24 to 28. 09:21.492 --> 09:22.532 [SPEAKER_01]: It's right about there. 09:22.912 --> 09:25.833 [SPEAKER_01]: So you look at someone like Cam Boosier for example, who is 19. 09:27.053 --> 09:30.014 [SPEAKER_01]: When he reaches his prime in five years second contract. 09:30.094 --> 09:53.458 [SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be getting thirty thirty five million something around It might be all of a lot more than exactly right where as Yaxel, we're talking about right now All right, yes, year six million next year six million next year six million next year six million You're up to that nine million taking a player who could be getting thirty to thirty five and getting them for less than ten is The type of fucking advantage that puts you in a different stratosphere. 09:53.478 --> 09:54.118 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like having a 09:54.778 --> 09:58.381 [SPEAKER_01]: a rookie in the NFL who's playing quarterback and can succeed. 09:58.562 --> 10:01.444 [SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just it's just changed this whole damn thing. 10:01.484 --> 10:03.546 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's, um, it's incredible. 10:03.566 --> 10:05.428 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see it coming, but fuck I'll take it. 10:05.848 --> 10:16.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and beyond that, like my take on them coming out was like, oh, this is like a Boris D-out-type player where he does everything right and he finds a way to help you win. 10:22.097 --> 10:23.378 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a knock-bores deal. 10:23.398 --> 10:23.819 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's okay. 10:23.839 --> 10:24.619 [SPEAKER_01]: You can knock-bores deal. 10:24.699 --> 10:26.201 [SPEAKER_01]: I used to call him the fat Frenchman. 10:26.501 --> 10:31.125 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and I had this name, I hadn't heard forever, but I actually like, because he did a little bit of everything. 10:31.145 --> 10:32.166 [SPEAKER_01]: He did a little bit of everything. 10:32.186 --> 10:32.927 [SPEAKER_02]: He did a little bit of everything. 10:32.947 --> 10:38.972 [SPEAKER_02]: He kind of did the Nick Batume, you know, but instead, it's like, what if PowerBand's here on you how to pass? 10:39.473 --> 10:42.756 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, okay, that's totally different. 10:42.836 --> 10:45.418 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you mean he can defend a little bit, especially if the rim. 10:47.860 --> 10:54.963 [SPEAKER_02]: I know that people, you know, you kind of made a joke out of it and I don't think it's not funny, but like he is absolutely humongous. 10:55.823 --> 10:59.245 [SPEAKER_02]: And the 49ers need another tight end and bring him on down. 10:59.445 --> 11:04.867 [SPEAKER_02]: Like 69, he keeps growing an inch every time people discuss them. 11:04.927 --> 11:07.888 [SPEAKER_02]: He's probably actually 68, but like somewhere between 68, 610. 11:10.403 --> 11:11.043 [SPEAKER_02]: What's he listed? 11:11.303 --> 11:26.132 [SPEAKER_02]: He's probably 255 now he's he's a big boy and it is when you have the ability to handle the ball like that like a man who's four or five inches shorter and like 40 pounds lighter But then you also have the heft 11:27.378 --> 11:27.998 [SPEAKER_02]: We saw this one. 11:28.018 --> 11:29.820 [SPEAKER_02]: They played the clippers and there was no staff. 11:30.421 --> 11:33.604 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so they put they put Jones on them Jones to skinny. 11:33.864 --> 11:42.773 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep Okay, well, they're gonna put burklope as I'm that ain't gonna work So like who do you find where are you who are your combs like who are the people that can guard someone? 11:44.495 --> 11:48.058 [SPEAKER_02]: This is why Palo Benchair has been able to score at will at the NBA level. 11:48.078 --> 11:52.322 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have the right person to put on them, and you don't really want to

double team them. 11:52.402 --> 11:57.526 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, I guess we'll just take our licks, except Benchair who doesn't think about passing the ball every. 11:57.546 --> 12:03.471 [SPEAKER_02]: He never uses the advantage, which is the defense having to focus on him to actually help his team win. 12:03.711 --> 12:10.877 [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas with Yax, immediately you're seeing like spin bounce passes and, you know, a cross 12:12.098 --> 12:14.481 [SPEAKER_02]: Across the body stuff, it's not like the Joker or anything. 12:14.521 --> 12:20.129 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even drama, but like again, there's just no overt weakness in his game. 12:20.189 --> 12:24.375 [SPEAKER_02]: And you've seen teams over these last couple of weeks be like, okay, we're going to press them on this. 12:24.415 --> 12:25.577 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, nah, I got that too. 12:26.538 --> 12:26.878 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay. 12:26.898 --> 12:27.679 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never stopped. 12:28.260 --> 12:38.672 [SPEAKER_00]: And what us is interesting is before the season started, he had a few of those medium moments where you're like, oh, this guy needs to meet each other in the fall to 11. 12:38.892 --> 12:47.162 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and to respect, you know, like the people who are in the league, and then he gets in there and has the moment about Luca, but 12:47.882 --> 13:08.191 [SPEAKER_00]: Every moment he's just sitting there like no matter what happens you look at him and he's just like deer and headlights and absorbing everything He's like who can I talk to Steve Kerr stops him and he sits there and it looks like he's genuinely listening and being coached and figuring out What to do and you're like this dude is playing this well and he doesn't know how to play at an NBA level. 13:08.211 --> 13:09.392 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I imagine when he 13:10.292 --> 13:17.578 [SPEAKER_00]: coaches and gets time and figures it out and slows down and that was how to use the pace the right way like it's encouraging. 13:17.618 --> 13:24.805 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's interesting to watch him go through it and all and figure it out even though you can tell like he's like I don't really know what I'm doing yet. 13:24.925 --> 13:26.166 [SPEAKER_00]: It still still still work. 13:26.626 --> 13:35.915 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, literally, when asked about it, he was saying two things, one, I'm giving him constant advice and he's willing to receive it, but two, I'm watching him utilize it immediately. 13:36.215 --> 13:38.757 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell him on the fucking sideline and he goes out and does it. 13:39.318 --> 13:40.919 [SPEAKER_01]: I consider myself good at my job. 13:41.039 --> 13:43.542 [SPEAKER_01]: You give me a piece of advice while I'm working. 13:43.802 --> 13:45.363 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to see that advice that day. 13:46.004 --> 13:52.231 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'd say it in like a week, maybe, you know, but it's not, it's not going to be instantaneous that he has the IQ

to match what we're talking about. 13:52.611 --> 13:53.873 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just another advantage. 13:54.133 --> 13:56.616 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the psychology man Jimmy goes down last year. 13:56.916 --> 13:59.059 [SPEAKER_01]: How many times did we think when Seth came off the floor? 13:59.379 --> 14:01.561 [SPEAKER_01]: Who the fuck is going to score now? 14:01.581 --> 14:02.923 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are we going to do? 14:03.223 --> 14:03.803 [SPEAKER_01]: All the time. 14:03.823 --> 14:05.404 [SPEAKER_02]: There's the only question. 14:05.604 --> 14:06.384 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly right. 14:06.424 --> 14:10.686 [SPEAKER_01]: And now that entire feel has just shifted, the whole thing has shifted. 14:11.066 --> 14:16.949 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's an enormous reason for, I mean, in this context, he's the only reason for it. 14:17.109 --> 14:21.350 [SPEAKER_01]: I will push us in to our first segment because I imagine that he will come right back up. 14:21.671 --> 14:24.232 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we do this one every time, glass half full, look back. 14:24.632 --> 14:28.493 [SPEAKER_01]: Recent warriors who pick out things that you like or don't like. 14:30.274 --> 14:32.035 [SPEAKER_01]: and I'll go first quickly. 14:32.215 --> 14:33.056 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I like boys? 14:33.236 --> 14:34.057 [SPEAKER_01]: Six game winstries. 14:34.517 --> 14:38.279 [SPEAKER_01]: So before, we're getting ready for the fourth game in the season. 14:38.299 --> 14:39.320 [SPEAKER_01]: The Warriors are Owen 3. 14:39.580 --> 14:42.682 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to watch, but it felt like I was going to go visit a friend in the hospital. 14:43.122 --> 14:47.645 [SPEAKER_01]: Like someone I had a bunch of time, great times with, but this is going to be kind of sad. 14:47.745 --> 14:48.746 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's an obligation. 14:48.766 --> 14:49.746 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to be there for them. 14:49.786 --> 14:52.168 [SPEAKER_01]: But shit, I'm not looking forward to it. 14:52.608 --> 14:54.849 [SPEAKER_01]: Fast forward to before last night. 14:55.329 --> 14:59.850 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the words are five and three before their last game getting ready now to be six and three. 15:00.130 --> 15:10.674 [SPEAKER_01]: It felt like I was going to tour a newly remodeled version of my house that I was going to get to have all these new things that in a familiar place, but man, am I looking forward to experience them in a kind of a new way? 15:11.034 --> 15:16.916 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is at the back in six wins if the everything feels lighter, you know? 15:17.176 --> 15:21.057 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm emotionally weak enough for like that impacts me all day. 15:21.698 --> 15:22.519 [SPEAKER_01]: I sleep better. 15:22.760 --> 15:23.982 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like happier. 15:24.102 --> 15:25.946 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a better spouse, you know, like so. 15:25.966 --> 15:26.166 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 15:26.527 --> 15:29.172 [SPEAKER_01]: I genuinely like where we are today. 15:29.933 --> 15:30.555 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll give you one. 15:31.056 --> 15:32.118 [SPEAKER_02]: Here's something I really like. 15:34.527 --> 15:37.468 [SPEAKER_02]: The most annoying thing of all the annoying things. 15:37.828 --> 15:42.950 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a little thing, but it became the most annoying thing of last year's 37 win campaign. 15:43.690 --> 16:01.137 [SPEAKER_02]: Was Brandon Pajemski getting the ball, ending up in the key, pump faking, and then just sort of spinning around for a while, looking for something to do with the basketball is three people put their hands in there and he's like, ah, I thought I could get the shot off, but no. 16:02.257 --> 16:13.688 [SPEAKER_02]: Then it basically turned into a champion Valkyries like offensive possession where the ball's back out on the perimeter and there's two seconds left and someone's got to do something hope it's shoot He doesn't do that anymore 16:15.328 --> 16:15.929 [SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome. 16:16.269 --> 16:17.830 [SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome. 16:18.651 --> 16:22.795 [SPEAKER_02]: Stop doing the little baby hook thing that he did is a rookie because that didn't work. 16:22.995 --> 16:23.756 [SPEAKER_02]: Stop doing that. 16:24.376 --> 16:28.740 [SPEAKER_02]: Now he stopped doing the top of the key pivot pivot pivot pivot pivot. 16:28.820 --> 16:31.923 [SPEAKER_02]: The Ross from friends move as I called it. 16:33.064 --> 16:33.605 [SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome. 16:33.945 --> 16:39.950 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I will say he's doing this thing where he's getting the ball in sort of a quasi-split action kind of in the low post. 16:40.751 --> 16:47.098 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's repeating the same sort of high key move, but now he's doing it to like a euro step scoop shot. 16:48.139 --> 16:54.025 [SPEAKER_02]: Not sure how long that can continue, but at least it has a chance of going in, which is a big plus. 16:54.525 --> 16:57.609 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Brandon Pajemps, he's been sneaky really, really good this year. 16:58.590 --> 17:01.152 [SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about Yax all the time, obviously you talk about Steph. 17:02.013 --> 17:05.194 [SPEAKER_02]: there's a lot of other stuff happening with the Golden State Warriors. 17:05.754 --> 17:20.338 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Pajemski is really coming into his own as a player as a true combo guard, not as a point guard, but as someone who plays off the ball and can dribble it a little bit to make something happen if need be a slasher. 17:20.598 --> 17:21.959 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it just looks right. 17:22.039 --> 17:22.919 [SPEAKER_02]: It feels right. 17:23.459 --> 17:26.680 [SPEAKER_02]: And the refinement in his game to just sort of get rid of 17:30.261 --> 17:41.456 [SPEAKER_02]: uh... is really encouraging and uh... another reason why that the warriors are in the position there in he's stopped wasting possessions by hanging out in the top of the key i never want to see him in the key again unless he's shooting a free throw 17:41.825 -->

17:51.011 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't miss that hook shot at all and I will call out a moment that stuck out to me that I thought was a microcosm of who he is as a player. 17:51.031 --> 17:51.871 [SPEAKER_01]: They're playing the lakers. 17:51.971 --> 17:52.952 [SPEAKER_01]: They do know there's that move. 17:52.972 --> 17:58.355 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they call it walk the dog where you want to get time off the clock, but you don't want the shot clock rolling down. 17:58.535 --> 18:02.178 [SPEAKER_01]: They do that thing where they roll it forward and the player walks around with it and they don't pick it up immediately. 18:02.678 --> 18:04.459 [SPEAKER_01]: And Pajemski did that. 18:04.599 --> 18:04.699 [SPEAKER_01]: He 18:06.240 --> 18:07.740 [SPEAKER_01]: put the ball in bounds. 18:07.780 --> 18:09.481 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he was given it to Dan than he meant. 18:09.501 --> 18:16.263 [SPEAKER_01]: But instead of rolling it, he placed it in the corner of the court and then stood and prevented the defender from coming and grabbing it. 18:16.683 --> 18:18.964 [SPEAKER_01]: And the advantage was he eliminated the momentum. 18:19.324 --> 18:27.326 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that ball wasn't going to cross half court, it was going to take off another just two, three, four seconds that the walk the dog move is designed to take off. 18:27.686 --> 18:30.487 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a variation on a move I've seen for 10 years. 18:30.887 --> 18:31.367 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just 18:31.867 --> 18:39.116 [SPEAKER_01]: smart he's just an intelligent player in an area she in little glimpses of that all on the board I cut you off empty where are you going? 18:39.916 --> 18:44.219 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say shout out to his barber, I think that haircut is what has unlocked pot. 18:44.419 --> 18:45.060 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the waves. 18:45.260 --> 18:48.302 [SPEAKER_00]: The waves are it. 18:48.422 --> 18:52.045 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with a different brand and I'm going to go brand and Williams. 18:52.205 --> 19:05.855 [SPEAKER_00]: I think in the off season when we weren't making any moves and then done leavey finally pulls a trigger and it's like we have signed brand and Williams and everybody just eviscerates Mike done leavey and not to say that. 19:06.615 --> 19:22.106 [SPEAKER_00]: Brandon Williams is the second coming, and you know, like it was great that we got him instead of a LeBron or a Yanis, but in the games that Brandon Williams has played, he's had like eight points, but those eight points felt like 20 points. 19:22.266 --> 19:31.393 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and it's like he's so good at getting to the ram and scoring or just becoming that option that is dangerous and 19:32.170 --> 19:44.270 [SPEAKER_00]: can either continue some momentum for us or keep us within striking distance if we're behind and that they're just big buckets like in its impressive the way you score, that it's not like they're luck like. 19:44.854 --> 20:07.438 [SPEAKER_00]: this guy has got a left hand and goes to the rim and like scores is like oh that's this guy knows what he's doing like so just shout out you know I think Mike Dunlevy you know caught a lot of stray shots for that move and should get his flowers for putting together a team and including Brandon Williams because he's been a solid pickup he's not going to fill the stat sheet but 20:08.639 --> 20:17.875 [SPEAKER_00]: The points and the rebounds and the cysts and the gravity that he's starting to create to me is impactful beyond just what the number suggests. 20:21.307 --> 20:26.273 [SPEAKER_02]: I hate to do this because I know he's a cult hero, but he's such a better player than Pat Spencer was. 20:28.235 --> 20:29.116 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's all it is. 20:29.136 --> 20:37.426 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a third point guard who you bring in when you need to up the pace a little bit, when you need to have a little bit more control the ball. 20:37.926 --> 20:40.827 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have to play every day, but he's earned the right to play every day. 20:41.328 --> 20:49.572 [SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, he's a spark plug, and he's someone that you really lean on when, as the number two, and someone who's going to play serious minutes, when Steph is out. 20:49.632 --> 20:51.773 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the past Spencer rule. 20:51.973 --> 20:53.314 [SPEAKER_02]: It's existed for a long time. 20:53.334 --> 20:56.175 [SPEAKER_02]: It hasn't always been past Spencer, but it's the past Spencer rule. 20:56.295 --> 20:59.277 [SPEAKER_02]: And, listen, Brendan Williams has some more than his game to be sure. 20:59.337 --> 21:00.237 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not very big. 21:00.557 --> 21:03.019 [SPEAKER_02]: He makes some very tunnel vision decisions. 21:03.459 --> 21:05.540 [SPEAKER_02]: But he makes stuff happen, and he's decisive. 21:05.800 --> 21:20.075 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's been the biggest takeaway, yes, quick, I don't know if anyone's fast in the game, it's not enough space, you got to be quick, but like the thing that stood out most to me now, having watched all these games and been in audience for many of them is how decisive they are. 21:20.855 --> 21:28.824 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a much more decisive basketball team, and that allows them to do more things tactically than they've been capable. 21:29.324 --> 21:32.146 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe not a lot, it's not an issue of there allowed to deny. 21:32.166 --> 21:35.710 [SPEAKER_02]: It's an issue of if they're capable of pulling off stuff. 21:35.730 --> 21:39.893 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just seeing a lot of variation and I think Steve Curse coaching is ass off right now. 21:40.654 --> 21:45.298 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of really, really good things to happen, but yeah, they closed out with B will last night. 21:45.818 --> 21:46.399 [SPEAKER_02]: We closed out. 21:46.819 --> 21:50.983 [SPEAKER_01]: The distinction between he and Spencer is a really great take. 21:51.403 --> 21:53.525 [SPEAKER_01]: And at

the risk of an oversimplification. 21:53.975 --> 21:58.957 [SPEAKER_01]: You bring up random limbs, you'll hear quick, good distinction also, or young, bright future. 21:58.977 --> 22:01.458 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, they're the positive basketball attributes. 22:01.718 --> 22:03.758 [SPEAKER_01]: You bring up Pat Spencer, what you'll hear is the word La Crosse. 22:04.319 --> 22:07.960 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the first thing that everybody thinks is he played a different sport before he came here. 22:08.080 --> 22:11.361 [SPEAKER_01]: I understand he was also a piece for us and had some good men. 22:11.701 --> 22:19.764 [SPEAKER_01]: But those kind of oversimplification sometimes show you, you know, like he, he, Spencer wasn't the asset that Williams is becoming. 22:22.571 --> 22:27.553 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll get another like the you motherfuckers forgot about me season that Seth Curry is currently having. 22:27.973 --> 22:30.555 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the I will put myself in this category. 22:30.795 --> 22:35.637 [SPEAKER_01]: Local and national pundits were assuming that the words would be terrible. 22:35.697 --> 22:38.238 [SPEAKER_01]: I made a joke that I thought the tank rules would hit us. 22:38.278 --> 22:38.798 [SPEAKER_01]: Not a joke. 22:38.858 --> 22:40.179 [SPEAKER_01]: I made a mission. 22:40.799 --> 22:48.025 [SPEAKER_01]: that really was saying that skilled or staff didn't have the skills that necessary to bully this terrible fucking team. 22:48.425 --> 22:48.765 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:48.845 --> 22:58.232 [SPEAKER_01]: He has come and this two-time MVP, four-time champion, gold medalist is not only performing well, he's improved boys. 22:58.413 --> 23:00.354 [SPEAKER_01]: I pulled his stats, known for scoring. 23:00.634 --> 23:01.415 [SPEAKER_01]: That's improved. 23:01.435 --> 23:01.875 [SPEAKER_01]: 24-25. 23:02.916 --> 23:06.999 [SPEAKER_01]: He was scoring 24 points a game at 44% shooting. 23:07.279 --> 23:10.521 [SPEAKER_01]: The next season, 26 points per game at 46% shooting. 23:10.861 --> 23:15.725 [SPEAKER_01]: This year, 29.9 points per game on about 47%. 23:15.785 --> 23:16.746 [SPEAKER_01]: We're worried about minutes. 23:17.066 --> 23:17.926 [SPEAKER_01]: Those have gone down. 23:18.687 --> 23:20.048 [SPEAKER_01]: Last three years, 32, 30. 23:20.108 --> 23:21.269 [SPEAKER_01]: This year, 28. 23:21.349 --> 23:27.273 [SPEAKER_01]: But the two things I really wanted to highlight, the only stones you can throw at Steph Curry's game, maybe. 23:27.913 --> 23:30.255 [SPEAKER_01]: is the lack of free thought shooting and the turnovers. 23:30.616 --> 23:32.357 [SPEAKER_01]: Both are infinitely better. 23:32.798 --> 23:42.227 [SPEAKER_01]: He's averaging less than two turnovers per game and he's going to the line eight times that the for context the previous three years it was four or four or five. 23:42.527 --> 23:43.668 [SPEAKER_01]: It's eight this year. 23:44.148 --> 23:47.392 [SPEAKER_01]: So the idea that he would come out play less minutes. 23:47.952 --> 24:06.787 [SPEAKER_01]: have a season where they told them you're not going to make the playoffs, and at bother and remember that quote where he was like, I, this is how far you guys think I have fallen and to respond like this, I'm not breaking any new ground to say that it is legendary fun to be able to watch Jeff Curry, booby my team up, but damn does he deserve the credit yet again? 24:06.967 --> 24:07.687 [SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be said. 24:08.228 --> 24:11.330 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't understand how he's doing this still. 24:17.365 --> 24:23.771 [SPEAKER_02]: How is it that he still looks like he's 29 years old and how do I get some of that? 24:23.851 --> 24:24.472 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's money. 24:24.692 --> 24:25.392 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the money. 24:25.412 --> 24:29.516 [SPEAKER_02]: But so, you know, Steph, break off a piece. 24:34.334 --> 24:45.585 [SPEAKER_02]: There are if you really broke it down and I tried to spend some time doing this like there are clearly some age-related deficiencies like he has started slow in a lot of games. 24:47.006 --> 24:56.856 [SPEAKER_02]: The minutes are overtly limited like they're not just gonna let him run all day they're they're looking for reasons to keep him off the floor now They've been given plenty of reasons 24:58.357 --> 25:03.639 [SPEAKER_02]: All of this and yet when he's on there, you're like, it's nothing's ever changed. 25:04.040 --> 25:10.643 [SPEAKER_02]: He's still 28 years old, it's unbelievable in a league that is proven. 25:10.663 --> 25:20.589 [SPEAKER_02]: I think for Goldberg had something on the ringer this week where it's like, it's never been younger and that all these dudes are just getting run off the floor and they're shot in this guy. 25:21.489 --> 25:24.331 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, to say that he's aged like a fine wine is a nut is a 25:25.131 --> 25:33.691 [SPEAKER_02]: over simplification of wine i mean i i don't know anything about wine but whatever this is it's it cannot be replicated you thought the bronjames was the only one who could just 25:34.602 --> 25:36.524 [SPEAKER_02]: keep doing this forever, LeBron. 25:36.544 --> 25:41.329 [SPEAKER_02]: James is the biggest human I've seen outside of Shaq. 25:41.369 --> 25:44.152 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a density to him that is in human. 25:44.572 --> 25:54.062 [SPEAKER_02]: Steph Curry is much larger than the average person, and it's always fun to see that when he's just around regular people, because he looks like a baby out there on the floor. 25:55.403 --> 25:56.804 [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that he's still doing it 25:57.665 --> 26:02.626 [SPEAKER_02]: is, is preposterous because so much of his game, I think people presume, oh, Shooter. 26:02.666 --> 26:04.407 [SPEAKER_02]: This, it's all athleticism. 26:05.007 --> 26:06.027 [SPEAKER_02]: All of it's athleticism. 26:06.167 --> 26:07.207 [SPEAKER_02]: All of it is being nimble. 26:07.267 --> 26:08.167

[SPEAKER_02]: All of it is being quick. 26:08.228 --> 26:10.208 [SPEAKER_02]: All of it is strength and skill. 26:10.248 --> 26:18.010 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's just like he's playing the hardest brand of basketball at the highest possible level well after the time when that should be allowed. 26:18.370 --> 26:21.991 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, money really powerful stuff. 26:22.031 --> 26:23.111 [SPEAKER_02]: If you use it in the right ways, 26:23.551 --> 26:28.776 [SPEAKER_01]: The Reddit has an MVP list that uses a formula that is so fucking complicated. 26:28.876 --> 26:30.778 [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot explain it nor can I understand it. 26:30.818 --> 26:33.521 [SPEAKER_01]: But I can tell you that it gives you a list of the top five MVP candidates. 26:33.801 --> 26:34.281 [SPEAKER_01]: Here they are. 26:34.421 --> 26:36.123 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, Luca, 27 years old. 26:36.283 --> 26:38.565 [SPEAKER_01]: Number two, Weminiana, 22 years old. 26:38.765 --> 26:41.048 [SPEAKER_01]: Number three, St. Goon, 24 years old. 26:41.228 --> 26:43.530 [SPEAKER_01]: Number four, Tyre's Maxi, 26 years old. 26:44.010 --> 26:46.312 [SPEAKER_01]: Number five, Steph Curry, 38. 26:46.373 --> 26:46.833 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 26:47.353 --> 26:48.555 [SPEAKER_01]: The R&B fucking years old. 26:49.155 --> 26:50.656 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's no one even in his class. 26:50.696 --> 26:51.997 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no one in there. 26:52.377 --> 26:56.239 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a guy who's known, not only for shooting, but for running more than anybody else, right? 26:56.299 --> 26:58.820 [SPEAKER_01]: He puts in more miles than, and again, anybody else. 26:59.061 --> 27:08.486 [SPEAKER_02]: He's coming off ninjuries, and he's still top five, and he literally has, he literally has runners and he, from running so much. 27:09.827 --> 27:12.828 [SPEAKER_02]: And listen, he's not going to play every game. 27:13.129 --> 27:14.329 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he gets to 65. 27:14.509 --> 27:16.210 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about any of this stuff. 27:16.370 --> 27:21.192 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the facts of the matter is the reason that there can be optimism isn't for this team. 27:21.312 --> 27:23.193 [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't because Steph Curry's doing what he's doing. 27:23.773 --> 27:30.596 [SPEAKER_02]: It's because of all the other things that are happening because we literally take Steph Curry for granted under the context of the Warriors. 27:30.636 --> 27:34.518 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, a Steph's out there, even if he's as old as Deeter, 27:35.937 --> 27:44.001 [SPEAKER_02]: And one of us is aging well, and it ain't me, like, even if that's the case, well, he'll get his and we can win those games. 27:44.061 --> 27:44.902 [SPEAKER_02]: It's those other games. 27:44.942 --> 27:48.543 [SPEAKER_02]: It's those other minutes, and yet those are not problematic. 27:48.563 --> 27:57.108 [SPEAKER_02]: In fact, have been advantageous, and now you can take it all in on the whole, and you're like, uh,

when was the last time I felt like this? 27:58.028 --> 28:03.732 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was 2022, and I'm not going that far, but it is the last time that it felt like possible. 28:03.912 --> 28:05.413 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, how did you to meet Lee possible? 28:05.433 --> 28:05.713 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes. 28:06.194 --> 28:08.856 [SPEAKER_01]: And people like Neang, you know, like, then we had be a lead. 28:09.036 --> 28:13.419 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and I'm a junior and like, and again, they're not, you know, not calling championship. 28:13.499 --> 28:13.779 [SPEAKER_01]: But. 28:14.079 --> 28:22.366 [SPEAKER_01]: There are their role players that fit, that makes sense in a way that I didn't didn't think that that's what was going to happen at all. 28:23.187 --> 28:24.348 [SPEAKER_01]: I've got a potential trade. 28:24.668 --> 28:25.549 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to run by you guys. 28:25.569 --> 28:26.630 [SPEAKER_01]: It's made a lot of people angry. 28:26.730 --> 28:29.653 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone who I've asked it to has given me my favorites. 28:30.093 --> 28:36.655 [SPEAKER_01]: hyperbolic response, before I ask you the trade, the other thing I like, and then it will lead into a question or championship rates. 28:36.715 --> 28:42.137 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get to watch the Valks, but at the parade, I got to watch the the run to the championship, but I did see some of the highlights. 28:42.557 --> 28:50.120 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd play you the Nikasay clip, but I'm sure we've all heard it, the thing where she talks about, that these girls like it, Ralph, talking about defense, and then make some sexual and you endo joke. 28:50.580 --> 28:52.121 [SPEAKER_01]: But it led to this question. 28:52.741 --> 28:57.065 [SPEAKER_01]: If you gentlemen were ever a part of a championship parade, you know, you did it. 28:57.185 --> 28:58.286 [SPEAKER_01]: You made it to the mountaintop. 28:58.346 --> 29:02.049 [SPEAKER_01]: You are now being celebrated by tens of thousands of people. 29:02.069 --> 29:10.736 [SPEAKER_01]: Your fans review news, guys, would you treat it as an excuse to do anything you want to get hammered, talk shit to your opponent? 29:10.776 --> 29:11.917 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just be loose. 29:11.977 --> 29:12.678 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure you are. 29:12.758 --> 29:13.378 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's have the mountaintop. 29:13.779 --> 29:13.819 [SPEAKER_01]: Or 29:14.459 --> 29:18.182 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you keep it buttoned up, you know, would you keep it nice and tight? 29:18.222 --> 29:26.448 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it seems like there's this tradition like Michael Malone a few years back, Dramon during some of our championship arrays, where you just go for it. 29:26.608 --> 29:27.409 [SPEAKER_01]: It's allowed. 29:28.089 --> 29:30.231 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you guys take that excuse or no? 29:30.251 --> 29:32.272 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you play it kind of close to the best? 29:33.353 --> 29:36.575 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'd like to think that I'd play close to the best. 29:36.616 --> 29:41.139 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to think that I've matured to the point where it's like just, you know, they don't need to see all that. 29:43.970 --> 29:47.815 [SPEAKER_02]: It'd be problematic, it'd be problematic. 29:49.076 --> 29:50.818 [SPEAKER_02]: There is a correct amount of beers. 29:51.339 --> 29:56.745 [SPEAKER_02]: It's exactly right, certainly be consumed to where that restrictor plate has been. 29:57.883 --> 30:07.066 [SPEAKER_02]: pulled off and we have put in the high octane fuel in the engine and we are going to push this thing all the way to the floor all the way around Talladega. 30:08.266 --> 30:16.409 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I know myself well enough to matured enough to think that I could do it, but I know myself well enough to know that I wouldn't 30:17.589 --> 30:19.070 [SPEAKER_01]: I go in with the guardrails app. 30:19.250 --> 30:19.971 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna be cool. 30:20.231 --> 30:24.693 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna, you know, let's let's make this Professionals who are girls and then buy about one PM. 30:25.154 --> 30:32.458 [SPEAKER_01]: They would be on the radios I'd like we need to cancel the fucking like this Bram have some interview like we got it We got a cancel that like he's made some decisions on his bus. 30:32.758 --> 30:35.780 [SPEAKER_01]: He threw his shirt off at one point like we don't know 30:36.480 --> 30:37.460 [SPEAKER_01]: Where are his team? 30:37.500 --> 30:38.560 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly right. 30:38.840 --> 30:40.421 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't even get the pants off the bus. 30:40.441 --> 30:41.641 [SPEAKER_01]: He threw them at somebody. 30:41.681 --> 30:43.041 [SPEAKER_01]: Like we don't understand that in any way. 30:43.321 --> 30:43.801 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 30:44.001 --> 30:45.682 [SPEAKER_01]: I think MT would keep it cool. 30:45.702 --> 30:46.562 [SPEAKER_00]: He's driving the bus. 30:46.722 --> 30:47.162 [SPEAKER_00]: We gotta go. 30:47.182 --> 30:47.822 [SPEAKER_00]: He's driving the bus. 30:47.842 --> 30:48.602 [SPEAKER_00]: We gotta go. 30:48.862 --> 30:49.962 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's driving. 30:50.162 --> 30:51.143 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 30:51.163 --> 30:53.363 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm ghost riding the bus just to see where this goes. 30:53.723 --> 30:54.423 [SPEAKER_01]: How about you, MT? 30:54.563 --> 30:56.824 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you wouldn't alcohol wouldn't impact you. 30:57.004 --> 30:59.624 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not, that's not a thing you'd have to worry about. 30:59.684 --> 31:01.824 [SPEAKER_01]: But do you think you'd get pompous or, you know what I mean? 31:01.844 --> 31:05.305 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, would you feel yourself enough or you'd say some things that maybe you regret it? 31:06.176 --> 31:16.612 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's right, I would go in the first few hours would be very well mannered and contained and then I'd probably get caught up in the moment and be. 31:18.966 --> 31:23.028 [SPEAKER_00]: interacting with fans and my loser trophy or or watch

or something. 31:23.368 --> 31:24.528 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a GP too. 31:25.469 --> 31:41.835 [SPEAKER_00]: So something would happen where it's more fan interaction and based not just because I'm this wild and out like I'd probably still have all my clothes on, but I purposefully want to enjoy it, enjoy it with the fans and make some fun moments with them. 31:42.207 --> 31:43.267 [SPEAKER_01]: I have some combination of that. 31:43.367 --> 31:49.009 [SPEAKER_01]: I try to do that move where you get off the bus and go throw out a bunch of high fives and I just bite ass on the way out. 31:49.329 --> 31:52.490 [SPEAKER_01]: There's like a highlight now that people would get to watch multiple times. 31:52.870 --> 31:53.010 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 31:53.711 --> 31:53.971 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 31:53.991 --> 31:55.071 [SPEAKER_02]: This is all checks out. 31:55.451 --> 31:57.512 [SPEAKER_01]: I've kept Peter longer than promised. 31:57.672 --> 31:58.792 [SPEAKER_01]: I know you've got places to go. 31:58.832 --> 32:00.773 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll throw you this train and we'll get that out of here. 32:00.813 --> 32:01.053 [SPEAKER_01]: So the 32:01.973 --> 32:02.894 [SPEAKER_01]: focus has changed. 32:02.954 --> 32:10.880 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what we're listening to national podcast now, what they'll talk about is the poor singer's dead money and we can make a move. 32:11.020 --> 32:12.721 [SPEAKER_01]: They are eminently tradable. 32:13.161 --> 32:14.082 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that's still true. 32:14.102 --> 32:20.447 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that he's announced his retirement, let's just assume for purposes of this conversation that that $20 million can still be. 32:20.467 --> 32:20.927 [SPEAKER_02]: To be food. 32:21.147 --> 32:25.492 [SPEAKER_02]: to be fair, semantically speaking, he's only said that he's stepping away from basketball. 32:25.532 --> 32:30.177 [SPEAKER_02]: So my understanding is that there's no, you have to file paperwork and stuff to retire. 32:30.197 --> 32:33.620 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, my understanding is that the warriors are telling him, please don't do that. 32:33.981 --> 32:37.825 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's very fine to do it because it doesn't affect him one way or another. 32:38.462 --> 32:38.942 [SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing. 32:38.962 --> 32:41.263 [SPEAKER_01]: The two things he's communicated is that and that he doesn't have AIDS. 32:41.563 --> 32:42.344 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still not over. 32:42.384 --> 32:47.606 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the most random addition to any tweet that has ever been tweeted. 32:47.726 --> 32:57.570 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe that there was such pessimism about this team coming into the season where the last thing we heard before it started was the supposed starting center being like, I don't have AIDS. 32:57.670 --> 32:58.490 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why. 32:58.670 --> 32:59.750 [SPEAKER_01]: That was not a rumor. 32:59.770 --> 33:00.591 [SPEAKER_01]: What the hell are you talking about? 33:00.611 --> 33:01.711 [SPEAKER_01]: It was absolutely a rumor. 33:05.113 --> 33:05.613 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the trade. 33:05.773 --> 33:15.118 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so the idea is if the warriors can get something out of KP salary slot and the actual is ready to contribute and stuff is who he is and Jimmy can come back. 33:15.158 --> 33:16.299 [SPEAKER_01]: This could be a very fun team. 33:16.739 --> 33:19.521 [SPEAKER_01]: So here's one of the trades I've heard and this one that makes everybody mad. 33:20.021 --> 33:25.805 [SPEAKER_01]: You trade out, drain on green, and criss-taps, pours in, this is contract, and you bring back to Montes Abonus. 33:26.305 --> 33:35.991 [SPEAKER_01]: No draft capital, idea that you'd sell this to the Sacramento because they don't want to pay subonus, and both contracts would come off the book, so they get a reset. 33:36.491 --> 33:37.332 [SPEAKER_01]: We bring in, 33:38.152 --> 33:56.920 [SPEAKER_01]: a guy who's skill say and maybe not the best offender, but he can certainly score and I think what you would hope if you did it is something similar to Andrew U. Wiggins that he's been limited by a shitburger franchise and that if you bring him in here, maybe you would unlock portions of his game, that we haven't previously seen. 33:56.960 --> 33:57.900 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you guys think? 33:57.940 --> 34:01.402 [SPEAKER_01]: They offer you this trade, Mike Dunlevy gives you a call and he's your advice. 34:01.602 --> 34:02.042 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you tell him? 34:04.410 --> 34:06.151 [SPEAKER_02]: pass. 34:06.752 --> 34:08.634 [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate the thought that goes into it. 34:08.814 --> 34:10.535 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't disagree with anything you said. 34:11.396 --> 34:14.458 [SPEAKER_02]: Their defense would immediately become a bismal. 34:15.179 --> 34:21.024 [SPEAKER_02]: It is not an issue of subonus being stuck in bad situations. 34:21.324 --> 34:25.268 [SPEAKER_02]: It is that he makes the situations worse on one side of the floor. 34:25.428 --> 34:27.089 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a lovely offensive player. 34:29.686 --> 34:32.347 [SPEAKER_02]: but he's fairly limited as well. 34:32.847 --> 34:33.647 [SPEAKER_02]: He's stiff. 34:34.567 --> 34:35.908 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a really good passer. 34:37.048 --> 34:39.929 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he could run some really cool like split action stuff with him. 34:40.669 --> 34:41.669 [SPEAKER_02]: But you don't need any. 34:42.269 --> 34:51.531 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing that he provides you that you need and there's you're definitely not you're losing a lot by getting rid of 34:54.012 --> 34:57.834 [SPEAKER_02]: let's say 10 to be optimistic like prime drama games a year. 34:58.334 --> 35:01.996 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, a game like last night with the heat, like it doesn't work without drama. 35:02.236 --> 35:08.239 [SPEAKER_02]: And he is, he been butt offensively sure, but when he's off the floor, you notice it on the defensive side. 35:08.259 --> 35:11.020 [SPEAKER_02]: And if

not for Charles Basketball Bassy, it'd be even more apparent. 35:11.100 --> 35:12.220 [SPEAKER_02]: So, um, 35:13.501 --> 35:14.642 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't dig it. 35:14.842 --> 35:24.608 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never cared for this abonus Rumors obviously I think Dremon would have to go out because I think he'd be the number one guy to not bring in the bonus. 35:25.208 --> 35:27.850 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think that it would 35:29.211 --> 35:32.434 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're going to do a center, get someone who can protect the damn rim. 35:33.094 --> 35:44.085 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you're going to trade out Dramon, get somebody who is an upgrade defensively over him, but can also give, or at least, it gives you, you're not losing that much, which is the nicest way of putting it, perhaps even an upgrade. 35:44.465 --> 35:46.808 [SPEAKER_02]: But then can give you a little pop on the off end event. 35:48.518 --> 36:03.850 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I mess around with this too much and the irony is with that poor zingist deal or the situation as it stands like you kind of have to make a move right you'd be negligent not to you can't crisp all this thing again yeah just eat the asset yeah just eat the asset 36:05.131 --> 36:06.532 [SPEAKER_02]: You really shouldn't do that. 36:06.552 --> 36:07.793 [SPEAKER_02]: You should get something. 36:08.574 --> 36:11.916 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if it's marginal, just get something out of it. 36:13.137 --> 36:17.161 [SPEAKER_02]: And I would be looking just to do whatever I want to do, which is get another wing. 36:17.521 --> 36:21.605 [SPEAKER_02]: Just find me another one, because you don't know how much Jimmy can play. 36:21.825 --> 36:24.727 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what that fit's going to look like with the axe when he comes back. 36:25.188 --> 36:29.792 [SPEAKER_02]: And then ultimately, you know, Moses Moody, I love Moses Moody's a great player, 36:31.740 --> 36:32.682 [SPEAKER_02]: that's a tough injury. 36:32.942 --> 36:36.388 [SPEAKER_02]: So I would just go and just get another piece, just get another guy. 36:36.408 --> 36:38.391 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't buy this abonus thing though. 36:38.611 --> 36:39.573 [SPEAKER_01]: MTA, I know you want Turner. 36:39.813 --> 36:40.835 [SPEAKER_01]: How would you feel about subonus? 36:41.776 --> 36:42.317 [SPEAKER_00]: Hard pass. 36:42.918 --> 36:43.359 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 36:43.759 --> 36:44.200 [SPEAKER_00]: Why? 36:44.561 --> 36:45.041 [SPEAKER_00]: I said thanks. 36:46.071 --> 36:58.354 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand why everybody's been hypervallically mad at you because it's just a downgrade in the area we need more which is defense and I don't think it's a significant enough upgrade and offense. 36:59.514 --> 37:10.137 [SPEAKER_00]: When we played them in the playoffs we took them out of the series because we figured out how to sag off of him enough and you know we limited him to just be in a solid rebound 37:11.057 --> 37:26.752 [SPEAKER_00]: We encourage him and force him to start taking three pointers and jump shots and he was airborne and I'm so Yeah, I don't think it's worth the upside on the offense of end isn't worth the downside on the defensive end to date at this point and You know, I just 37:28.232 --> 37:49.160 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there are other players to be had and it's not worth it to take away the only like the last bastion of the nucleus and the stool for a step as bad as Dramon has been on the offensive end, you know, and he did have 11 assists, so it's some credit there for the last game, but 37:50.500 --> 38:02.106 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the little things that don't show up in the stat sheets that, you know, still contribute and I think it would be a bridge too far to ask staff to do the last few years without clay or dream on. 38:02.378 --> 38:04.940 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's give this some connective tissue to our first segment, too. 38:04.960 --> 38:08.682 [SPEAKER_01]: So for me, sleep this night, I don't tell them no immediately. 38:09.762 --> 38:11.343 [SPEAKER_01]: I would at least sleep on it, think about it. 38:11.383 --> 38:14.325 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to eat this asset, and I do think that we could revive. 38:14.345 --> 38:16.907 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we could get more out of subunits that we've currently seen. 38:17.227 --> 38:18.428 [SPEAKER_01]: But ultimately, I would say no. 38:18.848 --> 38:23.951 [SPEAKER_01]: And the reason why I'm saying it's connective tissue to the beginning is, also, Drainman's value off the court. 38:24.091 --> 38:25.232 [SPEAKER_01]: What's he teaching, lending board? 38:25.712 --> 38:25.932 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 38:25.952 --> 38:27.093 [SPEAKER_01]: What's he actually picking up? 38:27.193 --> 38:43.023 [SPEAKER_01]: And we can, I mean, if you tell me either it's going to be dream on green, a basketball savant and somebody who knows this system may be better than the coach does, or debaunt us subonus who is going to be teaching this new prize rookie, there's not, that's not a sleepless night. 38:43.223 --> 38:45.944 [SPEAKER_01]: That takes no time at all and you can't put value on that. 38:46.285 --> 38:51.188 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I would be very, I think that's ultimately why I would say no and side with you guys. 38:51.208 --> 38:51.668 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't do it. 38:51.868 --> 39:07.843 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think there's also, like, comments like George Neane comes in right hasn't played with organization that has been a little bit of a traveler played for a few other clubs comes in and within two weeks says, I don't know why this guy, I dream on doesn't get more credit. 39:08.203 --> 39:15.690 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's out there guarding everybody and shutting them down, you know, like, from the center to the point guard to Luca to cast like, 39:16.711 --> 39:42.012 [SPEAKER_00]: he's bouncing around and doing it and you guys just don't talk about he's like he's the best defensive player I've seen maybe you know and like and for him to come in and you know like he's always had a little bit of an edge to him too and you know like there's no reason he has to say that like he can just come in and do his thing for him to proactively go say that to me speaks volumes and it's I think Drey might have still underappreciated in a lot of ways and 39:42.912 --> 40:03.324 [SPEAKER_01]: One of my favorite knee-ang play so far as me my last take promise is against the likeers It looks like he meets Walker Kessler at the rim looks like he blocked him and then they replay it And it's like, oh no, no, he didn't get anywhere close enough to black it He found the shit out of them and they had to look at whether or not it was like a flagrant and just that he made that call He's like, well, you're not getting this fucking lay up. 40:03.404 --> 40:04.025 [SPEAKER_01]: I fuck you. 40:04.045 --> 40:08.167 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't as a playoff foul in a November game And it's like I'm on board for this. 40:08.187 --> 40:08.627 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 40:08.687 --> 40:09.728 [SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely loved it 40:10.168 --> 40:14.174 [SPEAKER_00]: It looked like he told the ref like it wasn't a flavor and that's just that's how high I can jump 40:16.057 --> 40:17.217 [SPEAKER_01]: What else do you want for me? 40:17.457 --> 40:19.698 [SPEAKER_01]: These are genetic limitations. 40:19.798 --> 40:21.259 [SPEAKER_01]: Peter, we really miss you. 40:21.539 --> 40:23.299 [SPEAKER_01]: It is fantastic to have you back. 40:23.319 --> 40:24.219 [SPEAKER_01]: So happy to be back. 40:24.459 --> 40:31.922 [SPEAKER_01]: I, the other favorite moment for Nyang this season is your tweet, showing the mini van that's all tricked out. 40:32.482 --> 40:34.282 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a thousand percent get to steal that fucking bitch. 40:34.302 --> 40:35.183 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a nasty mini van. 40:35.503 --> 40:36.363 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gold. 40:36.463 --> 40:37.703 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a gold idea. 40:38.163 --> 40:42.024 [SPEAKER_01]: I know I am not alone who need way more Deeter curtain-bock in their life. 40:42.245 --> 40:43.365 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm right where do people turn? 40:43.965 --> 41:02.192 [SPEAKER_02]: You can hang out with me in a lot of places, too many places, one would argue, I'm on the everything app at Dieter, DIE, TER, you can check me out on YouTube at Dieter CurtainBuck, the Dieter and Huck Show, which is, we're ramping back up with Niners and then of course, Santa, oh my goodness, let's try English. 41:02.232 --> 41:04.253 [SPEAKER_02]: Santa is a Mercury News East Bay Times. 41:04.793 --> 41:09.194 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm syndicated in every damn paper in Northern California and not that I see the 41:14.178 --> 41:21.475 [SPEAKER_01]: Hell yeah, you know where to find us social media various places as soon as an email all that stuff with that in mind go Wires hopefully see you risen 41:49.843 --> 41:50.824 [SPEAKER_02]: Good, good, good.