WARNING: Explicit language. Content (and people) that may disturb.

'We must all suffer one of two things. The pain of discipline, or the pain of regret and disappointment.'Jim Rohn.

Geraint Jones catches up with one of his former instructors, Barry O'Connell, a Royal Marine PTI who is now a highly sought after personality in the fitness and boxing world.  Among the topics of discussion on this episode; the difference between simple and easy; setting up a successful business on civvie street; and an insight into the boxing world.

You can connect with Geraint at @grjbooks across social media, and find his Afghanistan memoir Brothers in Arms in all good book stores.

Barry is online at @stateofmindfitness and www.stateofmindfitness.com

If you are a veteran struggling with mental health, or you just want a bit of help adjusting to civvie life, then say hello to the Royal British Legion at @royalbritishlegion or www.rbl.org

For clips and content from the show, behind the scenes, and photos and videos of the guests' time on operations, follow @veteranstateofmind on Facebook and Instagram, and go to www.vsompodcast.com for links to all the connected sites, and an online submissions form for sending in your questions to the show. Cheers!

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