Full Transcript for One in Eight Billion: Finding the Voice That's Truly Yours

00:05:00.929 --> 00:05:06.450 So I've been, I've had my business for 17 and a half years. 00:05:06.450 --> 00:05:20.610 And uh how I got into it was I was teaching a theater class and a student of mine at a community college, so she was about my age, came up to me and said, You're different. 00:05:21.009 --> 00:05:21.330 Oh. 00:05:21.730 --> 00:05:29.490 When you trust yourself, you have more of a coaching style and less of the professor on the podium professing their knowledge style. 00:05:29.490 --> 00:05:35.649 Um, so what I just said about like wanting to feel the vibe shift rather than just relay information. 00:05:35.649 --> 00:05:40.450 Breadcrumb, you know, number 187, as I look back now. 00:05:40.450 --> 00:05:43.250 And she said, I think you're a coach. 00:05:43.250 --> 00:05:47.570 When you trust your style, you look like you're reading people's minds. 00:05:47.570 --> 00:05:54.370 Uh, you wouldn't know this because you're not in the other classes, but you're hands down drawing the best performances out of them. 00:05:54.370 --> 00:05:59.889 And when you trust yourself, it's like magic. 00:05:59.889 --> 00:06:06.610 When you don't, and you try to do it the way you think you're supposed to, it's really not working for you. 00:06:06.610 --> 00:06:09.570 I love the honesty. 00:06:09.570 --> 00:06:11.250 Yeah, yeah, totally. 00:06:11.250 --> 00:06:19.570 And it was like time, her face looked like it was in a fun mirror, and time almost appeared to be slowing down behind her. 00:06:19.570 --> 00:06:23.330 And when she said, I think you're a coach, I didn't know what coaching was. 00:06:23.330 --> 00:06:27.250 Yet, the like, ooh, something's happening here. 00:06:27.250 --> 00:06:29.009 I need to listen to what she's saying. 00:06:29.009 --> 00:06:32.610 And I went and signed up for my coach, my first coaching class, like two days later. 00:06:32.610 --> 00:06:33.730 I paid full price. 00:06:33.730 --> 00:06:35.409 No one pays full price for that. 00:06:35.409 --> 00:06:36.370 I now know. 00:06:36.370 --> 00:06:43.169 And and I started coaching and I was thinking I'm gonna be a life coach. 00:06:43.169 --> 00:06:51.090 And then right before the coaching exam, I called up an old boss of mine, my favorite boss. 00:06:51.090 --> 00:06:54.610 He was on an elevator in another country and he took the call. 00:06:54.610 --> 00:06:58.610 And I said, I need to make myself nervous before my coaching exam. 00:06:58.610 --> 00:07:00.210 Can I coach you? 00:07:00.210 --> 00:07:01.809 And will you give me feedback? 00:07:01.809 --> 00:07:07.250 And I didn't realize because he was a serial entrepreneur. 00:07:07.250 --> 00:07:11.330 I thought he was gonna give me feedback on my coaching, which he did, which was basically it was amazing. 00:07:11.330 --> 00:07:12.289 Where did you study? 00:07:12.289 --> 00:07:14.850 So I can hire my next coach from there. 00:07:14.850 --> 00:07:20.129 And then he said, You need a niche, you know, lots of entrepreneurial advice. 00:07:20.129 --> 00:07:26.370 If you're gonna coach in organizations, you need to like 10x the prices that just came out of your mouth. 00:07:26.370 --> 00:07:28.610 And what's your niche? 00:07:28.610 --> 00:07:32.129 And he said, You were always very fit when we were working together. 00:07:32.129 --> 00:07:33.330 Maybe it's something with that. 00:07:33.330 --> 00:07:45.250 And I went, No, but maybe it's something with voice and public speaking and bringing the theater background and the coaching and leadership background together. 00:07:45.250 --> 00:07:49.250 And it has been a windy road since then. 00:07:49.250 --> 00:07:54.929 And then, and over the years, it's like, what do I call the people? 00:07:54.929 --> 00:07:56.529 How did I get to rebel? 00:07:56.529 --> 00:07:59.570 Has been lots of like throw paint at the wall. 00:07:59.570 --> 00:08:01.330 You know, do I call them emerging leaders? 00:08:01.330 --> 00:08:02.289 Do I call them leaders? 00:08:02.289 --> 00:08:07.970 No, because they're seeing like a man in a three-piece suit from the 1950s sometimes when I say leader. 00:08:07.970 --> 00:08:15.169 And a few years ago, I started using the words that have an energy. 00:08:15.169 --> 00:08:20.049 And if the energy dies of the old words, I shift it to new ones. 00:08:20.049 --> 00:08:26.289 And rebel, someone really pointed out to me that I am actually a rebel. 00:08:26.289 --> 00:08:38.529 I frequently notice what's happening and feel like something needs to change and start embodying the change, asking for the change, guiding people to the other change. 00:08:38.529 --> 00:08:53.649 So wild-hearted leaders and loving rebels is the um, it's not just rebellion for rebellion's sake, it's the rebellion toward the better world that we're all craving in some way or another. 00:08:54.529 --> 00:08:55.490 Oh, I love that. 00:08:55.490 --> 00:08:59.250 And I love that you you kind of like redefined the word rebel. 00:08:59.250 --> 00:09:11.730 I feel like there are so many words in our language that are some really side meaning because of you know what people have said or what's been portrayed in movies, right? 00:09:11.730 --> 00:09:13.970 Oh, you're a rebel against, sorry, with Star Wars. 00:09:13.970 --> 00:09:15.649 I was like, oh, you're a rebel against, never mind. 00:09:15.649 --> 00:09:17.009 Um, yeah. 00:09:17.009 --> 00:09:31.570 Um, but it it really is interesting when you look at the definition of the words that we are utilizing and then shifting your perspective on what that actually means. 00:09:31.570 --> 00:09:51.410 Because even with rebel, I don't necessarily think that you're just like tyranny or going against everybody and screw all the things, but it's being able to do things in a different way, being able to see things in a different light, being able to see beyond what has kind of been put in front of us, this border, and saying, no, but like that's not how things have been being done. 00:09:51.410 -->

00:09:53.410 And I kind of want to go in this direction. 00:09:53.410 --> 00:10:01.810 And I think that it's wonderful to have people in that space too, because, like you were saying, we're opening up how we are speaking to people. 00:10:01.810 --> 00:10:18.529 And if we're using that as a way to um get through to people or teach them something, being able to have a perspective like that where you don't necessarily follow the norm and you don't necessarily follow exactly what everyone says, it allows other people to be able to think of things differently. 00:10:18.529 --> 00:10:27.090 You know, I one of the things that I always loved growing up was that every person that I was friends with was totally different. 00:10:27.090 --> 00:10:31.410 You know, there were some that were like really like bookshide people that just kind of hung out with me here. 00:10:31.410 --> 00:10:36.529 And then I had, you know, some people that were in like what people would call the emo club. 00:10:36.529 --> 00:10:38.210 That was never my thing, but I loved them. 00:10:38.210 --> 00:10:41.490 And like I loved having people that were different around me. 00:10:41.490 --> 00:10:51.490 And I, and still to this day, you know, even when I run the podcast, like that's one of my favorite things is what can I find about someone that is different that teaches me something, you know, cultures and stuff like that. 00:10:51.490 --> 00:10:53.009 I love that kind of stuff. 00:10:53.009 --> 00:10:54.050 I love the differences. 00:10:54.050 --> 00:11:01.810 And I think that, or I feel that in the world that we are in nowadays, being different means bad. 00:11:01.810 --> 00:11:03.889 Right. 00:11:03.889 --> 00:11:09.410 And it's shutting down a lot of the creativity and people being able to voice who they are. 00:11:09.410 --> 00:11:19.330 And so we end up finding a way to wear a mask to make ourselves look and feel like everyone else, because ultimately, right, we are communal creatures. 00:11:19.330 --> 00:11:21.170 So we want to be liked by people. 00:11:21.170 --> 00:11:23.170 You may say, no, I'm I'm good by myself. 00:11:23.170 --> 00:11:28.370 Don't get me wrong, I am too, but I still enjoy my conversations and my connections with people. 00:11:28.370 --> 00:11:39.330 And I hate that we are kind of in a space now where just because you decide to speak on a topic differently or just because you have a different opinion, like that's blasphemy, right? 00:11:39.330 --> 00:11:41.810 And you just you get completely taken down. 00:11:41.810 --> 00:11:49.889 Um, so with people that are in this space, right, that are coming up and saying, like, I know I want to do different, I know I want to speak different. 00:11:49.889 --> 00:11:53.250 I don't want to be the guy in the suit from the 1950s. 00:11:53.250 --> 00:12:04.610 Like, how do you start that conversation for someone that has that spark, that feel, and allow them to lean into that without allowing fear to kind of take over? 00:12:04.930 --> 00:12:08.129 Yeah, it can be different for every single person. 00:12:08.129 --> 00:12:18.610 And one of the ways that I might start is to ask them what is the change that they want to bring? 00:12:18.610 --> 00:12:19.970 What are their values? 00:12:19.970 --> 00:12:21.250 What is their vision? 00:12:21.250 --> 00:12:23.330 What's the dream that they have? 00:12:23.330 --> 00:12:32.529 And then when they're speaking, how does this moment connect to that larger why that they have or dream that they have? 00:12:32.529 --> 00:12:41.730 Because it can begin to make the fear voices fade away because we're not looking at the fear, we're looking at the thing that's bigger than the fear. 00:12:41.730 --> 00:12:47.090 That's probably that's going to be involved whether I start there or not. 00:12:47.090 --> 00:13:03.970 Sometimes we might need to take a moment and address the fear because the it feels bad to stand out can actually be it feels dangerous to stand out or be seen. 00:13:03.970 --> 00:13:07.410 Like we're we're gonna be noticed. 00:13:07.410 --> 00:13:11.250 We have flashbacks to being bullied in high school. 00:13:11.250 --> 00:13:42.690 So sometimes we need to look at that fear and almost even take a moment to notice what are the masks that you've worn throughout your life that have, instead of actually having you know that you belong, that have helped you to fit in or to hide, depending on what was gonna feel safer, and then thank them for having kept you safe and done their job and choose to release them. 00:13:42.690 --> 00:13:48.930 The masks for me, I often feel like it's a strength of a person. 00:13:48.930 --> 00:13:57.170 So I'm very intuitive and I was intelligent enough to think that I was a left brain kind of intelligent for a lot of my life. 00:13:57.170 --> 00:14:05.250 So I would protect myself with this heady hipster, smart mask, kind of keeping the heart behind. 00:14:05.250 --> 00:14:14.290 And I am intelligent, but over time, when I was using that mask to protect myself, it almost became like a repetitive stress injury. 00:14:14.290 --> 00:14:25.410 Where if you've ever had like wrist trouble, it's like your wrist becomes frozen and you no longer have the dexterity because you kept it like this, mousing all day. 00:14:25.410 --> 00:14:31.649 And the masks are almost like that, where it's not, well, if you're intelligent, you need to not be intelligent. 00:14:31.649 --> 00:14:52.450 It's allow the repetitive stress kind of protective mask to melt away and to reintegrate with all parts of you, which, like you said in the beginning, at least for me, for most of my clients and friends in the world, it is allow yourself to be different. 00:14:52.450 --> 00:16:07.430 Allow yourself to have all of your color palette, which often we're the outsiders, the rebels, the misfits. 00:16:07.430 --> 00:16:13.110 And speaking of movies, when you were talking about rebel, you made me think of the movie Rebel Without a

Cause. 00:16:13.110 --> 00:16:15.990 Oh it's not that kind of rebellion. 00:16:15.990 --> 00:16:21.430 It was like a teenage character who was very lost in the world because he was a rebel without a cause. 00:16:21.430 --> 00:16:24.070 These are rebels with a cause. 00:16:24.070 --> 00:16:33.590 There is that vision, something that they know the world would be a better place if they ushered in or held the space for some change. 00:16:35.190 --> 00:16:37.350 Oh, oh, I love this. 00:16:37.350 --> 00:16:39.030 Okay, let me stay on topic. 00:16:39.030 --> 00:16:42.150 Um, because I could go in so many different directions. 00:16:42.150 --> 00:16:49.990 And I what I want people that are listening to understand, you know, because I know we have some in the entrepreneurial space, and then we have some that just, you know, have an everyday job. 00:16:49.990 --> 00:16:52.390 Your voice matters regardless. 00:16:52.390 --> 00:16:57.590 You don't have to be a billionaire, you don't have to be an entrepreneur, you don't own your own business. 00:16:57.590 --> 00:17:01.670 You can have a voice in your own community or in your own family. 00:17:01.670 --> 00:17:05.190 Maybe you're the black sheep and you want to do things differently, right? 00:17:05.190 --> 00:17:09.750 Like there are so many different ways that we have the ability to use our voice. 00:17:09.750 --> 00:17:12.869 And I personally feel like our voice always matters. 00:17:12.869 --> 00:17:32.069 And let me add this: there is a difference between forcing your voice and your opinion and coming at it from a space of being open and sharing with the ability and opportunity to say, but I also want to hear what you have to say. 00:17:32.069 --> 00:17:35.990 There is a difference because there are a lot of people that are like, oh, I share my voice all the time. 00:17:35.990 --> 00:17:37.190 There's a difference. 00:17:37.190 --> 00:17:38.549 And I used to be this person. 00:17:38.549 --> 00:17:40.309 Like I was so stuck in my opinions. 00:17:40.309 --> 00:17:43.349 I was so stuck in, like, no, this is the way you're we should do it. 00:17:43.349 --> 00:17:45.829 And I've I've done this, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:17:45.829 --> 00:18:02.309 It's very different when you are in a space that you want to share what you have because you want to help others feel a certain way, or you want them to be able to light up or get an idea the way that you did in your time of need or despair or whatever it is. 00:18:02.309 --> 00:18:10.710 That's very, very different because you're not forcing one view, you're giving an opportunity for people to see another view. 00:18:10.710 --> 00:18:15.509 And then you can create a space where you also are willing to receive what they have to say. 00:18:15.509 --> 00:18:18.150 Even if you don't agree, you have that opportunity. 00:18:18.150 --> 00:18:22.390 And I think that people need to understand that that is the difference as well. 00:18:22.710 --> 00:18:24.230 Yeah, absolutely. 00:18:24.230 --> 00:18:40.150 And when I work with people, we talk about the body, and there are three physicalities, or really there's kind of a spectrum, but the world is walking around because we love to break things into binaries, thinking that there's only two options. 00:18:40.150 --> 00:18:45.910 I can be aggressive or meek, I can be powerful or powerless. 00:18:45.910 --> 00:18:53.269 And in reality, there is aggressive, which is the like not it, it's a physical thing. 00:18:53.269 --> 00:19:10.070 If you're in a state where you are sharing your opinion as if it is the only way and not open to or listening to others, I would bet a billion dollars that your body has subtle to extreme signs of tilting over into aggression. 00:19:10.070 --> 00:19:23.990 Lots of effort all the way through the body, the heart closed off, peripheral vision closed, so that you're not letting other voices in the room in because you you kind of don't see them, because you're in the physicality of aggression. 00:19:23.990 --> 00:19:28.710 You may not intend to be doing that. 00:19:28.710 --> 00:19:42.950 I spent a lot of time in the aggressive physicality when it was a combination of I'm really passionate about this thing, and the part of me that doesn't believe she's enough for this calling is in charge. 00:19:42.950 --> 00:19:54.630 So she's working really hard and pushing her ideas and every muscle in the body engaged to actually prove my cause to myself through talking to other people. 00:19:54.630 --> 00:20:12.390 There's also the more closed off what we might call meek physicality, which is like I'm having trouble believing in myself, and I kind of am testing the waters as I'm talking. 00:20:12.390 --> 00:20:14.230 So aggressive and meek. 00:20:14.230 --> 00:20:23.670 And then in the middle, there's a physicality, and I see it in you, and I saw it in you when you were talking about sharing your ideas and being open to others. 00:20:23.670 --> 00:20:29.190 The heart is open, it's the body is not pushing forward, it's not slumping back. 00:20:29.190 --> 00:20:36.230 It's like there's a balance of effort and ease, enough to be upright while also having an open heart and open vision. 00:20:36.230 --> 00:20:42.470 So we're making eye contact, but I can also see a bird flying out the window that I'm sitting next to. 00:20:42.470 --> 00:20:53.590 Or if we were talking in a room full of 12 people, we would be seeing and feeling when someone else is wanting to chime in to our dynamic conversation. 00:20:54.710 --> 00:20:55.750 Oh, I love that. 00:20:55.750 --> 00:20:57.350 Oh, and thank you for that. 00:20:57.350 --> 00:20:58.309 Thank you. 00:20:58.309 --> 00:21:00.870 Uh no, but I under you were so right. 00:21:00.870 --> 00:21:03.910 Like, there's so many times that we, it's it's either one or the other. 00:21:03.910 --> 00:21:05.430 Like there is no middle. 00:21:05.430 --> 00:21:13.110 And I have to say, being someone who lived on that one side, like

playing in the middle to me is like so much fun. 00:21:13.110 --> 00:21:19.350 There's a lot less rules, there's a lot a lot less worry, there's a lot less dealing with people's judgment. 00:21:19.350 --> 00:21:25.110 You still get that, but it just like wee, you know, but it's a completely different space. 00:21:25.110 --> 00:21:32.150 And, you know, when you were talking about being able to be passionate about something, but you said, I'm proving it to myself. 00:21:32.150 --> 00:21:43.590 Now, this is something that I have learned through years of doing speaking and stuff as well, is there is a difference, and I'd love for you to elaborate on this when we are sharing our story from that space. 00:21:43.590 --> 00:21:57.910 Because if you were sharing it from a space of you are trying to tell yourself why it's worth and you keep repeating it back to you, versus taking yourself out of the equation and saying, I'm here to make a difference in the lives of the people that I'm in front of. 00:21:57.910 --> 00:22:00.950 Those are two very different conversations. 00:22:00.950 --> 00:22:09.509 It can be the same words, but the feeling and the emotion and the energy that's behind it is completely different when other people receive it. 00:22:09.910 --> 00:22:10.390 Yeah. 00:22:10.390 --> 00:22:16.470 And if you're to me, one might need to lead to the other. 00:22:16.470 --> 00:22:29.830 So for some people, they might crave spaces where they can share their story, and they are still processing the story themselves and healing the story themselves. 00:22:29.830 --> 00:22:35.750 And the emotions might be overtaking them and running the show at that point. 00:22:35.750 --> 00:22:38.870 And for a lot of people, they need to go through that. 00:22:38.870 --> 00:22:52.950 They're uh they're on their way, perhaps, to standing on a stage or in front of a microphone and sharing their story where their journey is serving the people listening to the story. 00:22:52.950 --> 00:23:12.950 And if they have an intention for they want to see or feel the room shift to a sense of hope or a sense of empowerment or expansion or curiosity, if they're telling it from that place, they're serving with their story. 00:23:12.950 --> 00:23:19.269 And some people don't even think their story could serve. 00:23:19.269 --> 00:23:35.750 And if you're listening to this, I have not met a person yet in any of my programs, any people that I've worked with one-on-one who didn't have a story that could serve their people, the people who need to hear it. 00:23:35.750 --> 00:23:54.870 And since you mentioned stories, Star Wars, it's like it's like you are somebody's Yoda out there, and the telling of your story allows the Luke Skywalkers to put themselves in your shoes and understand what is possible from your story. 00:23:54.870 --> 00:24:13.269 And it's a very different energy to be open and vulnerable and intimate with a crowd of people while also serving them than it is to be sharing a story when you're not quite ready, because there's something that you personally are needing. 00:24:13.269 --> 00:24:17.269 Not that you won't get healing out of sharing your story. 00:24:17.269 --> 00:24:23.029 And it's a there's a distinction, it's it's like a both and of I'm here to serve. 00:24:23.029 --> 00:24:32.789 And yes, some things might be healing and transforming and changing, and my consciousness might be raising as I'm telling my own story to this group of people. 00:24:33.990 --> 00:24:52.870 Oh, I yeah, I and it's so funny too, because like I, as you're talking about this, I'm thinking about, you know, when I first started sharing my story of domestic abuse and how, you know, I always wanted to share it in a way that people would hear it and connect to it, especially for those that had been through it, so that they could see there was another side. 00:24:52.870 --> 00:24:58.630 And there were a lot of times in sharing my story where, you know, everything gets caught up in your throat, right? 00:24:58.630 --> 00:25:02.549 You kind of have to breathe through it because all the emotions are rising. 00:25:02.549 --> 00:25:10.309 And while it is a very beautiful process, uh, and I've used that as a way to heal a lot of the things that I have been through as well. 00:25:10.309 --> 00:25:17.110 I also want to let people know that you have to do that at your discretion of what you're comfortable with. 00:25:17.110 --> 00:25:26.950 Because there's there's very different of sharing the story and to the point to where you are not healed in that space and you can't even control how you want to move forward. 00:25:26.950 --> 00:25:31.990 And what ends up happening is you you get people kind of stuck in that space as well, right? 00:25:31.990 --> 00:25:33.430 Especially if you have people that are empathetic. 00:25:33.430 --> 00:25:36.150 They're like, oh my God, I like I feel for this person. 00:25:36.150 --> 00:25:42.070 Now it's hard to get them to the mission that you wanted to take them through because of where you're at. 00:25:42.070 --> 00:25:50.390 I think it is so important to um focus on whatever it is that you're wanting to tell and share at home, like on repeat. 00:25:50.390 --> 00:25:54.789 And I mean this like with your spouse, with your family. 00:25:54.789 --> 00:26:04.710 If you need to have a conversation and you know that the emotions are going to come up because of things that you've been through, you need to practice that behind closed doors. 00:26:04.710 --> 00:26:05.430 That's my opinion. 00:26:05.430 --> 00:26:11.509 Lori, I'd love to know yours because I do feel like one, it gives you space to hear what it is you want to say. 00:26:11.509 --> 00:26:15.430 Two, you can let the emotions flow and it's okay. 00:26:15.430 --> 00:26:19.670 And then by the time you kind of get through it and say it again, it's a little bit easier. 00:26:19.670 --> 00:26:23.670 It's maybe a little bit different, it's maybe a little bit clearer

than what you said before. 00:26:23.670 --> 00:26:31.750 And then when you do have that conversation, you're able to get your entire point across versus kind of falling in the middle of it. 00:26:31.990 --> 00:26:32.549 Yeah. 00:26:32.549 --> 00:26:35.110 Yeah, I would say I agree. 00:26:35.110 --> 00:26:38.870 And for some people, it's not their family. 00:26:38.870 --> 00:26:49.110 So the important thing is to find safe, safe spaces and safe people to do that where it isn't public. 00:26:49.110 --> 00:26:57.910 So I I worked in an acting studio that I loved, and he always talked about private, public, and semi-public. 00:26:57.910 --> 00:27:05.350 And the acting studio was the semi-public, like there's there's 12 of us here plus him holding space. 00:27:05.350 --> 00:27:13.269 And you might have some one-on-one time with him, and then when you're ready, you come into the semi-public space. 00:27:13.269 --> 00:27:15.830 I call it an intimate group. 00:27:15.830 --> 00:27:33.430 And it's it's how I love to work with people in small groups so that when they're ready to start having a group of people that they're sharing their story with who are all loving and holding space and incredibly supportive and doing the same thing. 00:27:33.430 --> 00:27:35.029 That's why they're there. 00:27:35.029 --> 00:27:36.789 There's this middle ground. 00:27:36.789 --> 00:27:55.509 And that middle ground can be years ago, I hadn't acted in five years, and then I decided to go back to this huge set of auditions, and I had this intuitive urge, because it was like I was coming back to life again after my mother had passed away and went, what am I doing? 00:27:55.509 --> 00:27:58.150 I need to act, I need to live. 00:27:58.150 --> 00:28:05.509 And I pulled out an old play about dating called Risk Factor that was more about the risk factor of your heart. 00:28:05.509 --> 00:28:11.830 And I went, Not only am I gonna go do these auditions, but I'm gonna do a monologue from the play that I wrote. 00:28:11.830 --> 00:28:13.269 It's a comedy. 00:28:13.269 --> 00:28:22.789 And I had to meet with a friend in her home and say, I just I'm not looking for feedback on the monologue at this point. 00:28:22.789 --> 00:28:38.309 I just need you to sit there while I say it because it's a comedy, but I could not say it without weeping because this, like, I suppressed and I, you know, shut off that part of myself. 00:28:38.309 --> 00:28:51.750 And it was like all of these feelings about intimacy and relationships and like years lost of going off and doing other things in my life and pretending that I didn't care about finding a romantic and life partner. 00:28:51.750 --> 00:28:53.350 All of that was coming up. 00:28:53.350 --> 00:29:03.269 And it was like, well, all of that is gonna flow through the monologue eventually, which is part of what it's gonna make it really funny when I move through the tears to the other side. 00:29:03.269 --> 00:29:24.710 And safe spaces and people and moving through the tears to the other side is what gets you to having a talk and a story that is vibrant and alive from head to toe, where you are changing the energy in the room with your story. 00:29:24.710 --> 00:29:37.910 If I had been like, well, let me suppress and try to do this funny monologue, which basically was my story in disguise in a play, it would not have landed the way it did on the audience. 00:29:39.350 --> 00:29:41.670 Ooh, that's that's super powerful. 00:29:41.670 --> 00:29:51.830 You also said you told your friend that you didn't need their feedback, you just needed it to be there. 00:29:51.830 --> 00:30:04.230 I want to hold on, we gotta pause on this one real quick because I do not think that we understand the importance of speaking to people what we need from them. 00:30:04.230 --> 00:30:11.910 Um, and you know, a lot of that is just the way that we were raised and you know, all the things from, you know, way back when. 00:30:11.910 --> 00:30:27.029 Um, no, but it but it's we it's something that I had to learn even in my relationship of like when we were going through things, or if I was dealing with like a panic attack or I had a PTSD moment, I would have to tell my husband, like, hey, this has nothing to do with you. 00:30:27.029 --> 00:30:28.870 I don't I don't want to have an argument. 00:30:28.870 --> 00:30:39.990 I need to tell you what I am thinking and what is going through my head so that I can process it, and then you can tell me what you were thinking so that I can then tell myself what is the real truth. 00:30:39.990 --> 00:30:52.309 And that was really hard for me for a really long time because we just aren't taught to voice that a lot of times it's you're being rude or you're being disrespectful or you know, fill in the frickin' blank. 00:30:52.309 --> 00:31:01.350 So, how important do you feel that it is when you are wanting to use your voice to express what you need in that moment? 00:31:02.150 --> 00:31:08.950 I think it's really helpful in helping people to get stronger with their voice. 00:31:08.950 --> 00:31:12.630 The first time, because I'll do that in my groups as well. 00:31:12.630 --> 00:31:20.549 If you're having a day where what you need is just to say it and you're not interested in any critical feedback, including from me. 00:31:20.549 --> 00:31:25.670 You have the permission at any time to say, I just want to say it today. 00:31:25.670 --> 00:31:27.590 I'm not interested in any feedback. 00:31:27.590 --> 00:31:33.430 And I'll remind the rest of the group like that means none, even if you love it, don't go writing in the chat. 00:31:33.430 --> 00:31:40.870 Because sometimes that it's like, no, I just want to do and that's the end of the process for today. 00:31:40.870 --> 00:31:42.390 That's what I need. 00:31:42.390 --> 00:31:57.590 And I had someone on my podcast at one point who said that our yoga teacher who taught him said, when you first say something, if it comes out like a spiritual

puberty, like I'm I'm not interested in your feedback today. 00:31:57.590 --> 00:32:01.670 The thing to do is to say it again. 00:32:01.670 --> 00:32:19.110 Like you say it twice in front of a whole group of people because you get stronger every time you say that hard thing until you all of a sudden you're 10 years in the future and you're like, it's not hard for me to to design with my husband how I want a conversation to go. 00:32:19.110 --> 00:32:27.910 Or it's not hard in this class that I'm in to say, I want all the because eventually I got to a point with her where I said, okay, I'm I'm no longer crying through it. 00:32:27.910 --> 00:32:35.029 Now I I would like your feedback because the audition is in like two weeks and redesigned it. 00:32:35.269 --> 00:32:36.230 That's awesome. 00:32:36.230 --> 00:32:37.990 It I think it's so important. 00:32:37.990 --> 00:32:45.430 I appreciate you bringing this up about being able to voice what is important for us in those moments. 00:32:45.430 --> 00:32:53.830 Um again, I feel like we live in a space where we're just taught to please everybody else in this moment or that moment or whatever, especially women. 00:32:53.830 --> 00:32:57.190 Not saying the guys don't go through it, but I'm just saying, guys, I love you. 00:32:57.190 --> 00:33:04.789 But but a lot of times we are taught to play it small or be quieter or ask for it when it's convenient for other people. 00:33:04.789 --> 00:33:11.670 And it's to me, that is so damaging to yourself when you do that. 00:33:11.670 --> 00:33:13.190 And I'm totally guilty of that. 00:33:13.190 --> 00:33:17.750 I did that for years, um, where everybody came first. 00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:21.110 My kids, my husband, my family, anybody you could think of, right? 00:33:21.110 --> 00:33:23.350 Anyone I worked with, like they all came first. 00:33:23.350 --> 00:33:26.870 And then I would just be upset and complain about how I didn't get to do for me. 00:33:26.870 --> 00:33:31.430 And that really was because I chose to put me last, right? 00:33:31.430 --> 00:33:33.509 Not because anybody else saw that. 00:33:33.509 --> 00:33:41.110 Um, and I think it's so important that we learn to speak even when we feel like we can't. 00:33:41.110 --> 00:33:43.750 And I love, I love the idea of saying it twice. 00:33:43.750 --> 00:33:45.590 I really, really like that. 00:33:45.590 --> 00:33:52.710 Um, because for me, I used to have a really hard time saying no when I decided I didn't want to be the yes person anymore. 00:33:52.710 --> 00:34:05.350 And so for me, what I would do if I couldn't say no, I'm not interested, or no, I don't, I don't really want to go to that, or whatever it was, I had a buffer that I used for a really long time. 00:34:05.350 --> 00:34:06.710 It was like, oh my God, you know what? 00:34:06.710 --> 00:34:07.750 That sounds great. 00:34:07.750 --> 00:34:11.190 Let me check my calendar and then I can get back to you. 00:34:11.190 --> 00:34:14.469 And there was something about giving that grace in that moment. 00:34:14.469 --> 00:34:18.630 And then of course I knew that I had to go back and actually tell them what I thought. 00:34:18.630 --> 00:34:24.869 But it was like in that moment, I got a second to just kind of like, okay, I still stood my ground. 00:34:24.869 --> 00:34:26.309 I still took the first step. 00:34:26.309 --> 00:34:28.549 And then it did get a little bit easier, right? 00:34:28.549 --> 00:34:31.190 To start saying, Yeah, no, I actually love that idea. 00:34:31.190 --> 00:34:32.949 That doesn't really align with me. 00:34:32.949 --> 00:34:35.509 But that is not something that I said in the very beginning. 00:34:35.509 --> 00:34:37.590 And that it's so funny that you're talking about that puberty. 00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:45.029 I can't tell you how many times it was like so squeaky where it's just like, well, let me think on it and I'll give it back to you. 00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:46.389 Yeah. 00:34:46.789 --> 00:34:47.029 Yeah. 00:34:47.190 --> 00:34:51.190 And it sounds like eventually your buffer just becomes a breath. 00:34:51.190 --> 00:34:56.949 Like at first, it's, I'm gonna go away, take some time to myself, and come back and tell you the no. 00:34:56.949 --> 00:35:04.309 Now, after all of the reps of saying the no's, like bicep curls, you can you do it in a moment. 00:35:04.309 --> 00:35:08.150 And the grace, it feels like, is still there for yourself. 00:35:08.150 --> 00:35:12.070 It's just instead of like a day of going away, it's become. 00:35:12.070 --> 00:35:16.149 I love that idea, and it's not aligned for me. 00:35:16.149 --> 00:35:18.069 Thank you for asking. 00:35:18.069 --> 00:35:19.269 I'm a no. 00:35:20.469 --> 00:35:21.189 I love that. 00:35:21.189 --> 00:35:33.989 Now, I have to go to this because I know this is also a freebie that we'll we'll get to toward the end, you guys, that you're gonna get you talk about the masks that we wear, and would love for you to elaborate what that means for you. 00:35:34.549 --> 00:35:35.189 Yeah. 00:35:35.189 --> 00:35:39.349 There are masks that can show up anywhere in our lives. 00:35:39.349 --> 00:35:51.189 And the five that I put in my quiz are the ones that I see specifically when somebody's gonna public speak and yet just know that a lot of people have said, like, this is the mask of my whole life. 00:35:51.189 --> 00:35:54.629 And it's what we did to survive. 00:35:54.629 --> 00:36:08.869 And we might be a different person now in our lives, like we've outgrown those masks, but then something happens when we get on a stage, and it's like our body reverts to this old mask that we haven't even been using elsewhere in our lives. 00:36:08.869 --> 00:36:15.109 And it often is a mask of what do I think I need to be in order to be a speaker? 00:36:15.109 --> 00:36:27.509 What did people tell me to be if I went through a speaking program that might have tried to shape you and your differences and your out of the box into a box?

00:36:27.509 --> 00:36:38.709 So there's the porcelain doll, very um, peacekeeping, may not actually speak a lot in a dynamic conversation. 00:36:38.709 --> 00:36:44.229 They might be the one on the side who's just sort of smiling and not talking. 00:36:44.229 --> 00:36:54.069 Or there may be moments where they're speaking on a stage and this sort of like, I'm just peaceful, is coming out rather than their whole range. 00:36:54.069 --> 00:37:03.669 There's the heady hipster, which is the like, let me just show you my intelligence, which can be because that's what we were taught a speaker is. 00:37:03.669 --> 00:37:04.949 They're smart. 00:37:04.949 --> 00:37:23.189 The peppy pleaser women tend to do this one more than men, from what I've seen, because of things like you mentioned, that like we've been raised in a world where the women are trying to please everybody else. 00:37:23.189 --> 00:37:28.629 And then in the speaking world, someone might have said you need to smile more. 00:37:28.629 --> 00:37:36.869 You know, there are bad speaking coaches out there who say things like, especially to women, you need to smile more in your speech. 00:37:36.869 --> 00:38:16.169 And it's like, no, if you want the audience to feel joy at the end, you can have that intention in mind, but that doesn't mean you need to be smiling or peppy the whole time you're talking. 00:38:16.169 --> 00:38:29.769 There's a Jiven jokester, which I tend to see more in men, which is the like class count class clown sort of earning the attention of the crowd through the laughs. 00:38:29.769 --> 00:38:51.769 And they often feel like if if no one is laughing, they're not giving any value instead of owning the whole range of there might be intellectual ideas, emotional moments, and yes, you might be a shape shift, like a room shape shifter who can turn the room on its head and have them laughing. 00:38:51.769 --> 00:39:06.249 But if you're laughing because you need a laugh, if you're saying a joke because you need a laugh, that's like telling the story because you need some kind of validation versus saying a joke to shift the energy in the room for them. 00:39:06.249 --> 00:39:10.969 And the final one I call the deranged mannequin. 00:39:10.969 --> 00:39:16.169 That is my so I've used combinations of all of them. 00:39:16.169 --> 00:39:21.369 I'm not really, I've never really used the Jive in jokester because that kind of funny is not a strength. 00:39:21.369 --> 00:39:26.249 I'm like one of those, I'm funny when I'm not trying to be funny people, and I don't always get it. 00:39:26.249 --> 00:39:28.169 Why is the room laughing? 00:39:28.169 --> 00:39:31.849 But I'll go ahead and wait and notice where the energy goes after this. 00:39:31.849 --> 00:39:33.849 Um, and the peppy pleaser. 00:39:33.849 --> 00:39:51.449 I don't tend to use those, but I've used combinations of the deranged mannequin, which is the like, I'm so passionate about the idea that I'm working a gazillion times and

as hard as I need to, and it's become tightness in every muscle of my body. 00:39:52.969 --> 00:39:56.969 I love the names of your mask, by the way. 00:39:57.209 --> 00:39:57.529 Thank you. 00:39:57.769 --> 00:39:58.809 That is like the best. 00:39:58.809 --> 00:40:01.449 And it's so funny too, because I find myself the same way. 00:40:01.449 --> 00:40:03.049 Like, how we having a conversation? 00:40:03.049 --> 00:40:05.609 And then I'm like, that was a joke. 00:40:05.609 --> 00:40:08.889 And I'll have to come home and be like, I was talking about this, and they were laughing. 00:40:08.889 --> 00:40:09.529 He was like, Yeah. 00:40:09.529 --> 00:40:12.089 And I'm like, oh, okay, got it. 00:40:12.729 --> 00:40:12.969 Yeah. 00:40:13.209 --> 00:40:19.289 I do think it's interesting that um, you know, we have the ability to have the combination of these as well. 00:40:19.289 --> 00:40:21.129 And I love that you said that. 00:40:21.129 --> 00:40:30.649 So thank you for that, because a lot of the times we find ourselves or feel like we're supposed to fit in one category of something, right? 00:40:30.649 --> 00:40:40.249 You said that, you know, you can find a speaker who, a coach who maybe um wants to put you in your box, right? 00:40:40.249 --> 00:40:41.289 Or their box. 00:40:41.289 --> 00:40:43.209 And that doesn't necessarily resonate with you. 00:40:43.209 --> 00:40:49.929 It's one of the reasons why I didn't hire a speaker, speaking coach, because every single one of them had such a rigid process. 00:40:49.929 --> 00:40:52.889 I was like, there's no room for me, you know. 00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:57.369 Um, but I think that it's it's beautiful that you you stated this. 00:40:57.369 --> 00:41:04.249 We need to understand that we are ever-evolving and moving and shifting beings. 00:41:04.249 --> 00:41:09.049 And so in one moment, you might find that this mask is where you are landing more. 00:41:09.049 --> 00:41:11.769 And then during this time, it was a little bit more of this. 00:41:11.769 --> 00:41:14.729 And then at this day, it was kind of a combination. 00:41:14.729 --> 00:41:17.209 I love the ebb and flow of that. 00:41:17.209 --> 00:41:28.169 Um, I think that it gives us a space to not feel like there's something wrong or I've got to fix something else because I didn't like fully fit in this spot, kind of a thing. 00:41:28.169 --> 00:41:42.089 And I think that that's super important for us to remember because again, we're not really taught that we can be dynamic and ebbing and flowing and you know, one way in one day and one shift in the next. 00:41:42.089 --> 00:41:53.769 And I think that's the beauty of what I feel like the way that you teach is giving people that space as well to fully feel who they want to be on that stage. 00:41:53.769 --> 00:42:04.169 And I'd like to ask you, you know, from your experience, how important do you feel that that is to the audience when someone has the ability to be in that space? 00:42:05.369 --> 00:42:10.729 I feel like it is incredibly important to the audience. 00:42:10.729 --> 00:42:24.089 And it doesn't mean, you know, one thing that I realized is we have a very adversarial impression of a relationship with audiences because of the whole fight, flight or freeze thing. 00:42:24.089 --> 00:42:30.889 So it's like we're trained to go up there thinking that they hate us and it's dangerous from the moment we begin. 00:42:30.889 --> 00:42:35.369 When in reality, what's actually happening out there is like they came to see your talk. 00:42:35.369 --> 00:42:39.609 At worst, they're probably neutral. 00:42:39.609 --> 00:42:45.449 If their spouse, partner, or friend dragged them to it, they're kind of neutral. 00:42:45.449 --> 00:42:47.209 Like, what is this about? 00:42:47.209 --> 00:42:48.729 You know, they're not your people. 00:42:48.729 --> 00:42:51.849 The person who dragged them there and said, You gotta come see them. 00:42:51.849 --> 00:43:02.889 Most people in the audience are leaning in, rooting for you, want to see you, want to hear what you have to say, or they would not be there. 00:43:02.889 --> 00:43:25.529 And if you want to be unforgettable, if you want to change the room and have the change last beyond the room, you need to tap into your one in eight billion radiance, which doesn't live in your head, it lives in your body, which is connected to your head. 00:43:25.529 --> 00:43:34.089 So you've got a purpose, you've got thoughts, you've got messages, and you have this instrument, this vessel that you're living in from day to day. 00:43:34.089 --> 00:43:39.769 And presence begins where the primal and purpose meet. 00:43:39.769 --> 00:43:44.009 Body, spirit, mind all coming together. 00:43:44.009 --> 00:43:52.409 And when people give a talk in like one of the small groups that I work in, they might start out in their head. 00:43:52.409 --> 00:43:55.449 They might even get a little into the heart. 00:43:55.449 --> 00:44:08.649 And then when they come alive in their the the way that only they can, the people giving them feedback will go something like the first time I understood you, the second time I felt you. 00:44:08.649 --> 00:44:23.689 And that's what happens when they see your TED talk and then they go out and do something different in their life or hear you on a podcast and maybe actually change something rather than going, that was so interesting. 00:44:23.689 --> 00:44:34.809 Forget it's the way you make them feel that makes you unforgettable and then starts to bridge into lasting change. 00:44:35.849 --> 00:44:38.329 Oh, that is so beautifully said. 00:44:38.329 --> 00:44:40.569 Like I didn't want to add anything else. 00:44:40.569 --> 00:44:44.169 Okay, but I have one more question. 00:44:44.169 --> 00:44:59.529 Um, you when we talk about getting into this space of sharing, like you said, from an emotional thing where not only do people hear you, uh, and I think that is like so beautifully said, where it's like, oh,

that was that was really great. 00:44:59.529 --> 00:45:01.129 Wee, on to the next thing. 00:45:01.129 --> 00:45:04.169 Um, because I've listened to podcasts like that, I'm like, that's a really great information. 00:45:04.169 --> 00:45:06.409 And then I'm like, I don't remember what it was. 00:45:06.409 --> 00:45:07.209 I'm like, it's fine. 00:45:07.209 --> 00:45:08.729 It apparently wasn't that important. 00:45:08.729 --> 00:45:24.089 Um, so you speak to the importance of being able to speak from your heart, and then also being able to be present with the body, like all at the same time. 00:45:24.089 --> 00:45:37.369 So for someone that let's say is kind of teeter-tottering in that where they're like, I feel like I'm I'm sharing the knowledge, but I kind of feel like I'm sharing the heart, but I don't know how to like just fully step in, right? 00:45:37.369 --> 00:45:41.849 And just share in a space of complete emotion. 00:45:41.849 --> 00:45:45.929 How do we help start to make that shift? 00:45:48.329 --> 00:45:52.249 Two thoughts went into my head, and the first one is shorter. 00:45:52.249 --> 00:45:55.209 It's almost always breath. 00:45:55.209 --> 00:46:05.129 If I'm allowing myself pauses for breath, pauses for the audience. 00:46:05.129 --> 00:46:16.489 To breathe and integrate, it's like our mind might be racing ahead, but when we breathe, and I'm not talking about speaking slowly the entire time. 00:46:16.489 --> 00:46:28.249 It's like I'm talking, I'm talking, I'm talking, and now I know where to go next because I took a breath rather than my mind sort of starting to trip all over itself. 00:46:28.249 --> 00:46:37.689 And the other thought that I had was I love to give people three words when I work with them so that they can hear them and then repeat them like a mantra. 00:46:37.689 --> 00:46:43.929 And there's more that we could work with in this, and even the three words help a lot of people. 00:46:43.929 --> 00:46:48.489 Intend, align, invite. 00:46:48.489 --> 00:46:56.489 Intend is what's the emotional or energetic feeling you want to evoke in the audience. 00:46:56.489 --> 00:47:09.289 Aligning is aligning your body, your breath, and your energy with your most expression, most expressive self, which is where we could work and deepen like what does that mean? 00:47:09.289 --> 00:47:11.529 And where are you not already doing that? 00:47:11.529 --> 00:47:17.609 And it's the way we freely expressed most of us when we were babies. 00:47:17.609 --> 00:47:33.769 This meat sack was meant to be used. 00:47:33.769 --> 00:47:47.849 And then inviting is having a silent conversation underneath the verbal one, where you're inviting them into that energy intention that you set at the very beginning. 00:47:47.849 --> 00:48:00.169 So you're speaking, but you're also looking at their faces, reading their nonverbal expressions, noticing the body language, and feeling the vibe in the room changing. 00:48:00.169 --> 00:48:04.249 Intend, align, invite. 00:48:04.249 --> 00:48:14.729 And I feel compelled to say your body remembers a line, even though we haven't gone into detail with it yet. 00:48:14.729 --> 00:48:22.569 So if you're out there listening, feel free to try it the next time you're having a speech or an important conversation with someone in your world. 00:48:27.209 --> 00:48:29.209 I just want to talk to you forever, Lori. 00:48:29.209 --> 00:48:32.809 Like it's we just keep, we're just gonna keep going. 00:48:32.809 --> 00:48:34.089 You guys are just gonna listen. 00:48:34.089 --> 00:48:38.889 And no, I everything that you say is is amazing. 00:48:38.889 --> 00:48:47.049 And it's thank you for being so open about it instead of rigid on how you feel that things need to be done. 00:48:47.049 --> 00:48:55.289 Um, I think that it creates a beautiful space for people to be able to hear more from what we are saying, right? 00:48:55.289 --> 00:49:08.329 And so I appreciate you sharing all of your knowledge and all the information on the podcast and giving so much um space for people to able to see themselves, even if you're not coaching them yet. 00:49:08.329 --> 00:49:15.529 Um, so as we as we are coming to a close, um, can you tell everybody then how how can they find you? 00:49:15.529 --> 00:49:16.969 How can they connect with you? 00:49:16.969 --> 00:49:18.809 How can they be in your world? 00:49:19.129 --> 00:49:19.769 Yeah. 00:49:19.769 --> 00:49:22.889 The my hub is a website. 00:49:22.889 --> 00:49:26.169 It's voiced-matters.com. 00:49:26.169 --> 00:49:28.329 And from there you can scroll to the bottom. 00:49:28.329 --> 00:49:33.609 I am on LinkedIn, YouTube, and Instagram if those are your preference. 00:49:33.609 --> 00:49:48.169 And you can also take the speaker altar ego quiz to figure out which which of those masks is the one that might be dimming your inner one in eight billion radiance the most, which is your strongest one. 00:49:48.169 --> 00:49:55.849 And then you'll you'll be on the list to hear about news, updates, tidbits, stuff like this. 00:49:57.209 --> 00:49:57.609 Yes. 00:49:57.609 --> 00:49:58.329 Oh my gosh. 00:49:58.329 --> 00:50:01.609 Okay, you guys, we'll make sure you have all that information in the show notes. 00:50:01.609 --> 00:50:05.689 So you're gonna have to go there and totally take her quiz, just saying. 00:50:05.689 --> 00:50:10.489 Uh, Lori, is there anything else you would like to leave the audience with today? 00:50:11.049 --> 00:50:13.529 Well, you've said it a couple of times. 00:50:13.529 --> 00:50:20.889 Your voice matters, it is needed in the world. 00:50:20.889 --> 00:50:33.849 I believe that the the world is almost like one big orchestra, and the string section has either stopped playing or they're trying to play like the drums. 00:50:33.849 --> 00:50:40.809 When in reality, what we need in order to reach global harmony is every voice in the conversation. 00:50:40.809 --> 00:50:55.849 The drums being drums and playing like drums, the string section being string instruments and playing like that, wind instruments, same thing from that open-hearted place that you mentioned. 00:50:55.849 --> 00:51:03.769 That's how a whole bunch of voices and instruments doing different things and being different can come together and create harmony. 00:51:03.769 --> 00:51:11.369 So if you've been listening to this episode and you're like, it's amazing, these two have incredible chemistry, but they're not talking about me. 00:51:11.369 --> 00:51:22.489 You just might be the person that we need to hear from the most because your voice matters and it is needed in the conversation. 00:51:24.089 --> 00:51:26.409 Oh, 1000%. 00:51:26.409 --> 00:51:28.729 Beautifully said, Lori. 00:51:28.729 --> 00:51:31.289 Thank you so much for being a part of the podcast today. 00:51:31.289 --> 00:51:33.129 I can't thank you enough for sharing. 00:51:33.129 --> 00:51:34.889 Thank you so much for having me. 00:51:34.889 --> 00:51:36.649 I could talk to you forever, too. 00:51:36.649 --> 00:51:39.449 To every already else that's out there. 00:51:39.449 --> 00:51:40.969 Oh my gosh. 00:51:40.969 --> 00:51:45.849 Um, like if you didn't have a light bulb moment, I need you to go back and listen to it again. 00:51:45.849 --> 00:51:46.329 Okay. 00:51:46.329 --> 00:51:47.449 I'm just saying. 00:51:47.449 --> 00:51:57.449 Uh, and please remember that when we are talking about you sharing your voice, remember it doesn't mean that you have to be someone on a humongous stage that is sharing with millions and millions of people. 00:51:57.449 --> 00:52:01.769 This can be in your local community, this could be with your family making a difference. 00:52:01.769 --> 00:52:05.609 Whatever you see fit is where you need to be heard. 00:52:05.609 --> 00:52:09.849 And I need you to understand that as Lori said, your voice does matter. 00:52:09.849 --> 00:52:13.849 And it doesn't matter who um it you are that you're speaking to. 00:52:13.849 --> 00:52:16.409 It doesn't have to be a huge crowd, it can be super small. 00:52:16.409 --> 00:52:26.249 You are going to make the impact on that one person that needed to hear what you had to say, which is going to help them shift in the direction that they need to go for their life. 00:52:26.249 --> 00:52:30.569 And if you can make one improvement, I feel like that is mission complete. 00:52:30.569 --> 00:52:38.569 So until next time, do one thing positive for someone each and every day and see the difference that it makes in your life. 00:52:38.569 --> 00:52:39.929 Catch you later.