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Speaker 1: Welcome to Two Personal. I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so much for joining us alongside with Haley and Specs.
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Speaker 1: Make sure you hit subscribe and follow us on social at 2PersonalShow. So it's been a crazy week of news because it's 2026. And when has there not been a crazy week of news? Did you see the full moon? She was so pretty.
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Speaker 4: I did.
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Speaker 1: It was very, a very beautiful sunset in Los Angeles. Last night, right? No, the night of the fall equinox. I was seeing everybody get their pics off.
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Speaker 3: Oh, is that what it was?
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Speaker 3: What is fall equinox? I just thought the moon was a full moon.
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it looks nice. It's the start of autumn. Like we are now, we're now in autumn. And that's why she was so bright and shiny. But we have a new week of fresh hell to discuss as well. And a new would
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you rather as well. A lot of people picked prison last week.
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Speaker 3: Y'all are brave.
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Speaker 1: Ready to go to jail. There are enough of us in jail. Well, not enough of us in jail, actually. Some of us need to go to jail. Let's get into our first story of the day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk to you about the Cornell 7.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: This is a very, for the record, this is a very ongoing topic.
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Speaker 1: Very ongoing story and a very triggering story if you are someone who likes a trigger warning story. That was the trigger warning.
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Speaker 3: Yes. So I'll briefly kind of explain for those of you who don't know. A former student is now suing the university, a fraternity and seven current or former fraternity members, alleging that in 2024 she was drugged and sexually assaulted at the Chi Phi fraternity house. There have been Snapchat group chats that have been visible to everyone. The police claim they received but never followed up on. she was given ketamine before she was basically gang raped, essentially is what it is, for lack of a better term. The university really didn't do much. Only two of the seven were expelled. The others were required to submit essays after the university had their own 12 hearings. Like I said, the police were presented the chap, but they didn't follow up. No criminal charges were brought at that time. Now, nearly two years later, the D.A., is now reopening the investigation, and it could now go before a grand jury. So I think that there's many, this is a very nuanced conversation. For starters, this is, again, very triggering, awful thing to happen. But the school is what's.
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Speaker 1: Really getting me.
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Speaker 3: Because as a college student, leaving home, you're young, you're on your own, most of us for the very first time, you would think that that is a safe place. should be a safe haven if something goes wrong. You should be able to rely on faculty, administration for help and support. And that is not what happened here at all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people failed this young woman. And, you know, I want to start the conversation by saying allegedly, because obviously this is a lawsuit and the authorities and the school did an investigation. There was consequences. So it's a little strange to say allegedly, because clearly through the investigation, they felt like there's the school felt there should be some consequences. So obviously they found something happened. And I don't really want to get too much into the weeds of the details of the story, because honestly, unfortunately, this isn't a very unique story. It's a quite common story actually. And yeah, It goes all the way back to my college days, which were over 20 years ago when I was a freshman in college in 2004. It's now 2026. So if you're okay at math, you can figure that out. And prior to that, I was hearing stories about this type of behavior on campuses. And if we want to widen the scope of it, this type of behavior is.
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Speaker 1: Common everywhere and really reading the story the I felt like a couple different things and I want to sort of organize the conversation a bit because the first thing that I always think of when I see a story like this is wow that's still happening and then I'm not surprised that it's still happening because look how the university handles it there's no real consequences the institution's to protecting the accused over the accuser. And the media, for the most part, the authorities and the public default to saying that she shouldn't have been in that situation. And so it never surprises me that these things continue to happen because there's no real ramifications for people that do this.
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Speaker 3: Do you think that fraternities, sororities are treated and protected in a different way by universities?
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Speaker 1: No, I think that men are treated and protected in a different way than by institutions. I haven't heard a story in my entire life of a group of women drugging and gang raping a man.
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Speaker 3: Very true. This is very sad.
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Speaker 1: Now, the other part of it is there's this instant reaction of victim blaming that happens when these stories come out. Why was she drinking? Why was she doing drugs? Why was she out so late? Why was she hanging out with a bunch of boys? In my opinion, and this is a controversial opinion, it is Always 100% the rapist's fault.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: To me, that's very logical, simple thinking.
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Speaker 1: You would think that. But if there is a but after that statement, then it's not. Because people will get into what she was wearing. Why was she out late? Why was she hanging out with a bunch of boys? Why was she drinking? Why was she doing drugs? you have to be more careful. You have to protect yourself. It's always the, the burden of avoiding these situations is always on the victim and not on the perpetrator. It is an intentional act to rape someone. It is an intentional act to assault someone is an intentional act to abuse someone. It's not an intentional act to walk home. It's not an intentional act to wear a dress. It's not an intentional act to wear lipstick. It's not an intentional act to drink a glass of alcohol. It's the fault of the perpetrator. When someone gets robbed, you don't blame the person who was robbed. You blame the thief. But for some reason, when it comes to sexual assault and sexual abuse and rape, the victim is treated like the criminal. They're the ones who are assumed to be lying. They're the ones who are put through the ringer about who, what, when, where, why. Yeah, that's a big one. And the person who is accused, and in this case, let's just call them men, are assumed not only to be innocent, but are assumed to be victims, are assumed to be being lied on
and their reputations and futures being attacked by a woman who is not telling the truth. Now, I know men who have been falsely accused. I know what that does to a person. And Personally, I feel like if it is proven that you lied about being sexually assaulted, abused, raped, harassed, you should... go to jail.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they need consequences 100%.
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Speaker 1: It shouldn't just be, oh, well, thank God he's not in jail or let's get him out of jail or let's clear up his reputation. No, no, no. If you are a woman who is making something up, who is lying about what happened to you, to get vengeance or to get money you should be held accountable at the highest level i agree now that does not include pulling back your statements because going through the process of trying to get justice for sexual assault for let's let's just call it essay like i don't have to keep repeating the whole the whole thing let's just call it essay Going through the process of that is so exhausting and dehumanizing that many people, A, do never report it. B, start to report it, get treated like criminals, and are like, fuck it, it's not worth it. Go through the process, get put through the wringer, commit suicide, or fall into drugs and all kinds of other negative actions because they're dealing with extreme trauma and PTSD. If they do make it all the way to the end, then they then have gone through probably years. I mean, this happened years ago. Years and years and years of having to constantly relive this trauma. And the third thing that always sticks out to me when these stories comes up is how much I don't want to have these conversations. Because every time... Every time I try to have a conversation about this, the whataboutism is instant from men. Instantaneous. I can't finish a sentence before a man is talking about how he knows somebody who was falsely accused. So do I. Do you know who I know a lot more of, like infinitely more of? Women who have been sexually assaulted.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I know a woman who hasn't experienced this. That like one in three, one in five statistic. Every single woman I know is at best been harassed. At the very best. Slightly stalked. Something to that degree. All the way up to violent gang rape. I've seen and experienced the entire spectrum in my lifetime with women and with myself. And I just, I can't bear the conversation.
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Speaker 3: I also think it's very interesting that I don't hear a lot of men talking about those that were involved in this group chat that may have not acted, but stayed silent. There were 57 people, 57 men.
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Speaker 1: We have to call them what they are. There were 57 men in this group chat who knew that this girl was upstairs and that she was being assaulted. And they did absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 3: That's another huge issue.
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Speaker 1: Well, to me, that is the core and the crux of the issue. Because
when I talk about this, and I'm talking to men who I am assuming are not assaulting women. But the default is, well, I have never assaulted a woman, but I know a man also who didn't assault a woman who was falsely accused. And then therefore, every woman that says this must be lying. But we know that all these women are not lying. Yet somehow, no man knows another man who has done this. Well, Somebody is doing this. And we know that you are much more likely to be attacked by someone that you know than a stranger walking down the street. And when we talk about these kind of assaults, there's always this idea with men that it's like, oh, it's someone in a dark alley. No, this was this girl's friend. This was on her campus. This was in a frat house. This was announced to 57 people. There were so many opportunities for humans, people that have families and are in other groups. Some people are athletes. They're at a prestigious university. This is not some guy in a dark cloak hiding in an alley. And I think the fact that no one helped and no one said anything and all of these people who are not helping, who are not saying anything are men. is the struggle that I have with this continuous, ad nauseum conversation about women, where they stand in society, and how they are not protected. This whole pitch that men are protectors. They're not. They're predators. And I'm not saying that as a whole. All men are not predators. But most men are not protectors. Because if they were, this wouldn't have happened. Yes, there were men who didn't assault her who were in that building. But they knew the assault was happening and did not stop it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and absolutely could have.
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Speaker 1: Of course.
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Speaker 3: There was more men not assaulting her.
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Speaker 1: Many dozens.
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Speaker 3: That knew she was being assaulted.
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Speaker 1: But they knew she was being assaulted and did nothing. And that is what scares me about even having this conversation because it feels so hopeless. We are raising young men to have no respect for women.
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Speaker 2: None.
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Speaker 1: They don't think of them as human beings. None of these men thought enough of her as a human person. They probably would be more likely to save a dog. If their frat brothers were upstairs assaulting a dog, they'd be more likely to go upstairs and stop that assault than a human woman. We're raising young boys not to respect women. We've elected a man who's been accused of sexual assault and has had to pay millions to a woman for raping her. Said he grabs women by the pussy. We put him in office twice. We have an entire Epstein list of disgusting, morbid, unthinkable, pedophilic, child rape, not even accusations, facts.
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Speaker 2: No one.
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Speaker 1: One person is in jail, the woman, which she should be. She should be strung up in the town square. But the only person in prison is a woman. We have had these issues with campus sexual assault for as long as I have been alive. You have insane numbers from the Congo, 2 million women and children since the genocide has started, have been raped. They're feeding women the genitalia of their husbands and raping them in front of their children. They're feeding them dead bodies. Read anything about what's going on in Gaza with the prisoners there. It is crazy. There's this epidemic of sexual violence, which I know is not new.
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Speaker 2: I'm aware.
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Speaker 1: What is terrifying to me is it's not stopping. There's no decline. If anything, they're getting more creative. And I don't know how many different ways throughout my life I've had this plea with men that it's like, it's not up to us. You can't say a woman can't dress a certain way. Explain pedophiles that.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 1: This 12-year-old girl is not asking for sex. She's in fact not doing that. She's existing. And she's still assaulted. A 90-year-old woman?
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Speaker 2: A dead body?
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Speaker 1: Like, for every example of you saying a woman is asking to be raped, I can give you... Millions of examples of women and children and elderly women just existing who are still being assaulted. It is not about that. It is 100%, 100% the fault of the perpetrator. It is not the fault of the victim. It is an active choice to assault, abuse, or rape someone.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Listen, as a mom of a little boy, like in all my fellow moms of boys, we have to do better. And you need to raise your children to obviously not only assault, but speak up and do something about it if they see something happening.
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Speaker 1: It's unthinkable to me. If I had a friend, a woman, who was accused of something, who was... fuck accused was telling me that she was raping someone.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Why would I protect her? Why would I not say anything? It is unthinkable. It's unthinkable to me. Fuck the assumption. Fuck a random accusation. You're in the group chat telling me that this is what you're doing with your evening. And I'm just not doing shit. And I'm in the group chat because now everyone is of course calling for everyone's name. It was in the group chat who didn't do anything. And I want to say something to women too, because this is important. None of these institutions, none of these. mentalities, none of these continuous problems exist without women doing their part to uphold the patriarchy by being male centered and by continuing to perpetrate the excuses that exist for people behaving this way and young people behaving this way. To your point, boy moms the way that you speak to your son the way that you hold them accountable for how they talk about women who their friends are how they value human beings like that is the parents responsibility agreed 100 are there just pure psychopaths that are born bad and just yes of course But these are young men who got
into a very prestigious university who had futures, right? They did enough work to get a part of an organization. Like I said, there were athletes. There were all kinds of different people from all kinds of different walks of life in this organization. These are not people scavenging in the woods. Like these are people that none of, like if you even just look at their pictures, they just look like kids who are just in college because that's what they are.
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Speaker 3: And got to experience college and finish it, and she couldn't.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the details of the whole thing are obviously awful. And I've been diving in for the past couple days. And it also got me thinking about my college days. And my freshman year, I went to a college where we did some drinking. And I didn't actually drink my first semester of college. So I didn't drink until I was 18. And there were always stories and there were always, you know, I lived in an all girls dorm. So there would be girls that come back drunk and they'd come back upset. And I had multiple instances with friends. I had a girlfriend come back once and she had gone to a man's dorm room and he said something and she didn't like what he said. And they got into an argument and he hit her. and i got his number and i called him and i told him if he liked breathing he better not ever come near her again and if i find out he hits hit another girl i'm gonna call the homies from the burg and they're gonna pull up and i and i knew a man who knew him and i told him i said let him know i don't play that shit yeah no what do you mean you hit her are you fucking crazy I can think of so many times we had a rule with drinking where if we went out, we only went out with like our group. Like there was no meeting a new person and going out with them. There was no like going to, if we went to a frat party, if we went to the hockey house, if we went to the football house, like it was a buddy system. And if somebody got a little too drunk, the night's over. We're not pushing through. We're not leaving her here because we don't want to deal with her. That's it. We'll live to fight another day, right? Like this is how it's happened. She got too drunk. All right. It's too early. Oh, well, we're going to either bring her back to the dorm and go back out and make sure that she's safe and she's at home. But you're never leaving anyone. Mm-mm. Like, no woman left behind. That's not available. Now, did we have to do that? Should we have had to do that?
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Speaker 3: No, but I'm glad you did.
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Speaker 1: People would argue yes. Like, people would say, like, you need to take precautions. There's bad people in the world. We know that. The problem is there's so many opportunities for this to happen. This has been happening. I went to college 22 years ago. And we had these stories. And we were worried about these things. And we had precautions in our conversations. Don't go to this person's house.
They're weird. I heard this about this guy. You don't want to go drinking with them. Don't go to this frat. Don't go to this house. You have to be careful, of course. But all of the responsibility was on us.
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Speaker 3: I was there. I did the same thing.
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Speaker 1: Right. And nothing has changed. It is still happening. The institutions are still protecting. And the conversation is the same. You don't want to ruin a young man's life over an accusation. It's never, let's take care of this woman whose life is ruined. You are never the same after being assaulted. You are never the same. It is a murder of a soul. to be raped or abused. And if you haven't experienced that, God bless, but enough people have said that, that it should at some point resonate. I just find the conversation to be so disheartening because I have defaulted to I will never publicly speak about my abuse. One, because I don't feel like I owe it to anyone. But two, what the fuck I'm going through that shit for? What am I doing? What am I giving everybody except for trauma porn? Because people don't care. It doesn't matter how many stories. How many women? How many frats? How many years? How many decades this has been going on?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just hit the dam. I've seen that. That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: It's like... Have you ever seen the movie Promising Young Woman?
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Speaker 4: Mm-mm.
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Speaker 1: It's... It's a fascinating film. And it's like a.
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Speaker 4: 2025? Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's an amazing movie. And it is essentially about this topic. And it's a good perspective on just how many ripples of effect that this type of behavior has on so many people. And I'm interested to see what happens from the rest of this story.
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Speaker 3: And... Definitely be following it. I.
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Speaker 1: You know, we've seen... in the past where nothing has happened. We've seen situations where it's turned into international news. There's all different variations of it. And again, I know men who have been falsely accused. I am in no way diminishing the horror of having your life ripped apart by someone who, I mean, Emmett's heel was falsely accused. not even of assault, just of whistling at a woman, which at that time was considered assault if you were a black boy, which he was, and a white woman. There are endless instances of black men being lynched from women accusing them of assaulting them during Jim Crow. Of course, It is very serious. Equally as serious is the epidemic of sexual violence. And I have, you know, used international examples, but let's just keep it in the United States because we only want to get into like India and some of the just horrific institutional oppressive places where women are unsafe, women, children and elderly and dead women are unsafe. Let's just keep it to like where we are. If we can never acknowledge the massive amounts of abusers and predators that are walking amongst us, we are never going to fix it. And make no mistake about it. Your young boys are not safe either. And I'm not just talking about the young women teachers that get caught up in this.
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Speaker 4: All those Catholic priests that were sexually assaulting boys.
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Speaker 1: I mean, your neighbor. There is so much. There is an unspeakable amount of child porn that is being circulated on the Internet today. AI child porn. Real child porn. Child... The sex trafficking... The amount of children, babies that are sex trafficked. They are literally sex trafficking children, getting them pregnant, and then sex trafficking the babies that they make. I am not making... This isn't some conspiracy theory. It's one of the biggest industries in the world. Who do you think is doing that?
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Speaker 3: That makes me sick to my stomach.
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Speaker 1: It's maddening. And I'm like, I know... If you know me personally... you know I'm in the vortex. I am stuck in it. Everything that happens in the world deeply affects me. And believe me, I don't want another bad thing to happen to me to push me into the full villain. But I'd much prefer to not give a fuck about anybody or anything. Seems like a much better life. You guys are thriving, okay? I'm very jealous. I'm jealous of dummies and I'm jealous of you fuckers that don't give a fuck about anything. Fuck everybody else's problems. I'm only concerned about myself. I would love to be that way. And most of you probably think I am that way. But I'm not. I'm deeply affected by human suffering. And I very much wish that I wasn't. Because I don't feel like I can do anything about it. And I don't feel like any of my pleas are ever heard. So like, examining this story, I just hope that people think about the gravity of how often this happens. It is not a conspiracy. It's not, again, some guy in a black cloak in a rainy corner of the alley. It's your sons. It's your daughters. At their school. At their friend's house. At their sleepover.
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Speaker 2: Like.
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Speaker 3: Sidebar. I will never... There's no sleepover.
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Speaker 1: No, sleep... I used to get so mad at my parents about the sleepover thing. Now I'm like, I can't believe they ever let me have a sleepover.
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Speaker 3: I'll happily host them. If camera's everywhere, it's fine. But you're not... No, no, no. My house is the house.
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Speaker 1: To be at.
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Speaker 2: It's the house.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's... Oh, it's exhausting.
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Speaker 3: Did you see Nicki Minaj's interview? She spoke with Fox, Laura Trump at that. She said it was, they talked about a lot of things, but essentially they, you know, got to the nitty gritty and her support for Mr.
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Speaker 1: Trump.
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Speaker 3: And she had some words for the Democrats.
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Speaker 1: She has been. Lately, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. She says the Democrats have
gotten too caught up in pop culture and allowed their relationships with artists to cause them to act like children and be petty, which I thought was very interesting. She says they allow people in the music industry to influence them. Yeah, I was a little confused by that one. She also felt like black people have always felt they should just vote blue, and that's just not the truth. She's pledging to donate to Trump accounts. She feels, you know, children need financial literacy and an opportunity to get ahead that many of us didn't have. So I thought this was very interesting. She's a very, she tends to be controversial, but her comments about pop culture and relationship with artists as you are an artist who have tried to convince a certain side.
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Speaker 1: You're literally a music artist on the news talking about politics and trying to convince people to vote a certain way. You feel me? Are you good?
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Speaker 3: I'm very confused.
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Speaker 1: Are you good? Blink twice if you're in Milwaukee. She... Somebody said that she looked like she threw her wig up and ran under. Wait. That's a great explanation. that wig in the pissed me off she was fuck ass wig here's the thing Nikki is she's been purchased so that's the end of that like she's never coming back and she's very unserious and she has to say what they tell her to say and that's it that's the end of that so there's there's no mystery about what's going on there there's no like It's very simple. She belongs to them now, and she has to say what they tell her to say. Because as you were reading it... They're setting her up like a motherfucker. Oh, no. There is no setup. It's already cooked.
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Speaker 3: What they're having her say.
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Speaker 1: You are... First of all, you're saying something that doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: You are a literal pop culture icon, musical artist, telling people, literally telling people which way to vote. Not telling people register to vote, do some research, look into who's on the ballot. Just saying vote red. And you're saying that the Democrats are doing that. You're literally doing that for the Republicans. Yep. So... You're just wasting everyone's time here. And who is this for?
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Speaker 3: I don't know, her army?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what, yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's done.
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Speaker 1: But I do think that, I do think the one thing, even though it makes no sense because she is an artist literally talking about politics, the one thing that I do hope that happens throughout the next two years, midterms and into the presidential election, is that We do get away from pop culture. We do get away from your favorite music artists. We do get away from actors and actresses. We do get away from influencers. We are living really potentially in the end times. I hate when you say that. Well, I don't tend to think that the world is ending, but everyone that I know in tech... is like, it's over. Like, we've got a couple years left before AI kills all of us. Kills. We're dead.
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Speaker 3: That freaks me out.
00:35:03
Speaker 1: And we continue to make it. We have already integrated it into all of our systems. I don't even know if it can be reversed. And, I mean, there's nothing really we can do about it. We have to continue living. We can't just descend into anarchy. But if there is going to be any hope that we're going to correct it and save our species, we do have to get more serious about politics. Politics has become an everyday conversation for all of us. It didn't used to be. It truly did not. We did not used to have to talk about the president every single fucking day. For young people who think that this is normal, it's not normal. We used to live lives and talk about the president when something happened. Not something he did. Something happened. It was not every fucking day. And it didn't need to be talked about at dinner tables. You did not talk to the person that you were dating about it, not because you weren't interested in them. It's because it truly did not matter. It always mattered, but it wasn't so pervasive and it wasn't so off the fucking rails and it wasn't so blatantly associated with racism and sexism and abuse and corruption that you couldn't even take someone seriously if they aligned with certain people. Now it's a fucking free for all. So if there's any hope that we are going to get back on track, somebody has to be the adults. Yes, you can be likable. Yes, you can have a favorite sports team. OK, but no, you cannot pop up on a stage in some glittery boots and Okay, giving awards away. No, you cannot be twerking at a fucking events. No, you cannot fucking be twerking Jake and Logan with that fuck-ass hair at the Pentagon. Like, we have to be serious. We need to listen to educated, qualified people. Listen. Read. Ask questions. Follow up. The midterm elections are essentially in a month. It's going to be one of the most important elections in our lifetime.
00:37:26
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:37:27
Speaker 1: It is a very... complicated election. It's not going to be easy to fill out a ballot. You're going to have to spend a couple hours doing it. And you're going to have to do it. You have to vote. You have to register to vote. You have to turn in a ballot. You've got to spend some time on that ballot. This is the reality of where we are. Otherwise, and I don't mean to sound hyperbolic here, we're all going to die.
00:38:00
Speaker 2: I'm scared.
00:38:01
Speaker 1: You should be scared. I have always voted. I don't know if it's just because I came from a military family. I don't know if it's because I have always just felt an obligation to participate in what this country offers to us. And I've had a respect for the fact that I have a right to vote.
00:38:27
Speaker 4: Right.
00:38:28
Speaker 1: And everyone doesn't have that. And I didn't used to have
that for a variety of different reasons based off of who I am as a demographic. So I don't take it for granted. I do not believe that my vote doesn't count. In fact, I know it doesn't count. I mean, I know it counts. And I do not subscribe to the propaganda that everyone just can pass the buck to someone else to deal with, that politics don't affect my life. that I don't really care about politics or talk about politics. All that is cooked. There was a time where you could do that.
00:39:03
Speaker 2: It's over.
00:39:05
Speaker 1: They're literally trying to kill us.
00:39:09
Speaker 3: I will definitely be doing my research.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: I mean, just take half the time you use scrolling aimlessly on social media.
00:39:16
Speaker 3: And start now.
00:39:17
Speaker 1: And read a couple articles. Just a few. There are so many nonprofit organizations that break it down for you, explain the process, explain who you're voting for, explain how the branches of government work and why this matters and they're gonna start trotting more and more people out and it's gonna be your favorite this and your favorite that and this person's telling you to register to vote fuck all that Do it because you want to live. Do it because you're tired of your taxpayer dollars going to anything except for what the fuck it's supposed to go to. Do it because your roads are fucked up and your kids can't get qualified teachers and you can't afford fucking gas and groceries are expensive or you can't eat the groceries because they're all recalled because these fuck-ass losers fired everybody that makes sure that our food is edible. Do it because they're selling all of our farms off to private companies so that we're never going to have control of the fucking food supply in this country. Do it because he started an unnecessary war that has already killed innocent soldiers who did not need to die because we never needed to be there in the first place. Do it because he fucked the economy. Do it because you're a fucking fan of his and you like sucking his asshole. I don't care. But do it. It has to happen. Like, enough already. So the only thing that I will agree with her on, even though it excludes her from the conversation, which is just fascinating as a talking point, is stop trotting pop culture out here as politicians or people that are experts on politics and social issues. You can be two things at once. You can be a pop culture icon and be incredibly well-versed in history, in civics, in government, in social, economic issues. You can be both of those things, but there aren't a lot of them, and it sure the fuck ain't Nicki Minaj.
00:41:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:41:14
Speaker 2: Specs.
00:41:16
Speaker 4: I mean, it just shows the desperation of the party. I mean, I think they understand that a lot of the curtain has been drawn back, and, like, a lot of people are seeing what the party has really been up to. The problem is that, like, Honestly, I feel like it's a last stand of ideology. And a lot of people are deciding to side with it because they just prefer not to see anybody that don't look like them in a position that's higher than them. Obviously, there's a lot of dynamics that go into it. You know what I'm saying? Once you start, you get to the side of El Saeed and the Angie Nixons and all those people like that, like, there's a bigger conversation to be had. I think, like, essentially, like, right now, like, we really understand that, like, Trump has done something to this country that has put us in, like, a complete utter shithole. And, like, essentially, like, the midterms are, it could potentially be, like, the end of it all. I kind of look at it more like a last stand because it's, like, a battle of ideologies.
00:42:27
Speaker 2: So, I mean, like, Shit's fucked. We got to get out there and vote, everybody.
00:42:31
Speaker 3: Got to vote. Everybody.
00:42:32
Speaker 2: Please read. Got to vote. Use your seventh grade, what was it? Like seventh grade level.
00:42:39
Speaker 1: Reading level? Yeah.
00:42:40
Speaker 4: Everybody use that and, you know, let's.
00:42:43
Speaker 1: Get out of here. Or just honestly ask questions and listen.
00:42:49
Speaker 3: I got a lot of questions I'm going to be asking.
00:42:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's fine. When did asking questions become shameful? When did not knowing something become shameful?
00:42:59
Speaker 2: Social media.
00:43:00
Speaker 1: It's weird as fuck to me. It's literally the opposite of intelligent. There is an infinite, an infinite universe of things I don't know. But there is a sliver of shit I know a whole fucking lot about. But if I happen to at any point step outside of that space, I am not going to tell somebody how to do something I don't know how to fucking do. Right. I don't know shit about electrical work.
00:43:30
Speaker 2: The fuck?
00:43:30
Speaker 1: Does that make me a dummy? No, it means I don't know anything about electrical work. So I'm gonna hire an electrician. Otherwise I'll burn a fucking house down. I don't know how to do this. I don't know shit about plumbing.
00:43:41
Speaker 3: So I hired a plumber.
00:43:42
Speaker 1: I don't know shit about being a mechanic. I don't know shit about landscaping. I don't know shit about putting cement down. Why is it when it comes to something that we physically cannot do, we have no problem asking questions or hiring someone to do it? But when it comes to something that has to do with ideology, to Speck's point, that has to do with taxes, the economy... international issues and war, the international economy, the stock market, we're like... I just get overwhelmed.
00:44:17
Speaker 3: And then I'd be like, I don't want to talk about it.
00:44:21
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, and for some things, that's okay. But at certain points, you're not... And you don't have to be an expert on it. You don't have to be an expert on the.
00:44:35
Speaker 2: Right?
00:44:35
Speaker 1: Like, you don't have to be an expert on these things. You just have to know how it affects your life and who is responsible for making that affect your life and if they have any plans or are showing any initiative to make it stop affecting your life. It does affect your life. Like, AI is going to affect your life. And it's not just making the fucking Migos video.
00:44:59
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
00:45:01
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, listen, I know that.
00:45:04
Speaker 1: They're so funny.
00:45:05
Speaker 3: They're so funny.
00:45:06
Speaker 1: I really don't like these trends because they're burning. I mean, at least if the world's going to burn down, some of them can be funny. And they are so funny.
00:45:14
Speaker 3: Some of them are so good.
00:45:15
Speaker 1: Someone made one of my younger brother. It's crazy how much they look like them. Yeah.
00:45:21
Speaker 3: They're pretty spot on.
00:45:22
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:45:23
Speaker 2: Computers be working.
00:45:24
Speaker 1: They do be working. They've come a long way. The original AIs, I was like, wow, y'all are really terrible at this. And now I'm like, I don't know. I got a quadruple check to make sure it's not AI.
00:45:36
Speaker 2: Well.
00:45:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:45:38
Speaker 1: All right. What is our personally what would you rather today?
00:45:41
Speaker 3: You ready for this one?
00:45:42
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:45:44
Speaker 3: Would you rather have your search history or your camera roll made public?
00:45:51
Speaker 1: Camera roll.
00:45:53
Speaker 3: What is in your search history?
00:45:55
Speaker 1: Camera roll. For sure. I haven't think twice about this. Camera roll.
00:45:59
Speaker 4: Next.
00:45:59
Speaker 3: I could really do either.
00:46:00
Speaker 2: Next.
00:46:02
Speaker 1: What are you searching? Camera roll.
00:46:08
Speaker 2: No, no question.
00:46:10
Speaker 1: No question. Specs, what are you choosing?
00:46:12
Speaker 3: You have to pick one.
00:46:13
Speaker 2: I'm probably going camera roll.
00:46:14
Speaker 3: What's in your search history?
00:46:16
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just that like, I mean, I think I got the easy way out because I'm just a guy. So I just got random pictures of like shoes and buildings. I'm also just not.
00:46:28
Speaker 3: They should have specified like internet search history or chat GPT history because I would love to see some people's chat GPT history.
00:46:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, chat GPT history would be exposing motherfuckers for sure. That's a lot of people's therapists.
00:46:42
Speaker 2: I think you can include that.
00:46:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's both. That's both to me. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, and listen, camera rolls not going to do many favors either.
00:46:50
Speaker 3: At all. It's every album, though. The hidden, the recently deleted.
00:46:53
Speaker 1: I don't have, I don't really be deleting that much. And I, I don't have any hidden albums.
00:47:04
Speaker 3: I have a few things in my hidden. I have to, though, because Aiden be.
00:47:07
Speaker 1: All over my camera roll. See, I stopped taking nudes a long time ago. So I just haven't felt inspired in a long time. You know, I used to have the angles really good. And now I'm just like.
00:47:18
Speaker 3: It takes some work. It takes some work and energy.
00:47:21
Speaker 2: I would take some production skills.
00:47:23
Speaker 1: It takes some production skills. And then it's like, I don't, it's just, you know, they just don't be moving me to send.
00:47:32
Speaker 3: You're not motivated to send anything.
00:47:34
Speaker 1: Maybe that's my problem. Maybe I need to get back to starting sending pussy pics again. I mean, I haven't, the thought hasn't even like crossed my mind. Like how I used to be on Twitter and it was, it was like a default part of my day to like share my thoughts on Twitter. And then Elon killed it and then it just went away. And now I'm on threads. And so I've gotten back into the habit of sharing thoughts on threads. Yeah. Like it would easily be a pussy pic a day. And now I'm like, I just don't, it doesn't think, I don't think about it. I just do not send nudes. I mean, mine's very rarely. And I know, I know, like, in my brain, I know every nude that I've sent and who I've sent it to.
00:48:18
Speaker 3: So if it ever got leaked.
00:48:19
Speaker 2: You know if it leaked.
00:48:20
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:48:20
Speaker 2: You would know the source.
00:48:21
Speaker 1: I would know the source. I would know what my body looked like at that time.
00:48:24
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
00:48:26
Speaker 1: And, like, my hair changes a lot. So I could match it with the hair.
00:48:32
Speaker 2: At the time.
00:48:33
Speaker 1: So there is, there's no, the criminal investigation would be very short-lived. Yeah.
00:48:38
Speaker 3: I send an occasional, like, if he's out of town, like, miss you, a little something. It's, like, just here and there. No, that's good. It's, like, cutesy, though.
00:48:46
Speaker 1: I need to start doing that. I just don't.
00:48:49
Speaker 3: My favorite is on FaceTime, and I know, like, he's around people, but not too close, and I, like, make him nervous, and I kind of, like, start loving him. He's like, hold on, hold on, babe.
00:48:57
Speaker 1: Gets in the car.
00:49:00
Speaker 3: Like, thinks I'm by. Like, wait, I'm not by myself.
00:49:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you still have that, like, flirt in you. I'm not a good flirt anymore.
00:49:10
Speaker 3: Oh, let me be very clear. My friends who ask me for advice when they're dating and like, what should I say? Do not ask me. Don't fucking know. I'm like a grandma.
00:49:21
Speaker 1: I actually don't know how to slur anymore.
00:49:22
Speaker 3: I would not know. I would not know what to say.
00:49:24
Speaker 1: I'm going to start talking about Gaza at some point. Like I have completely lost my touch.
00:49:30
Speaker 3: If I had to date right now.
00:49:31
Speaker 1: And I'm an oversharer. Me too.
Because I don't fucking care anymore. Like if you don't like me, I don't, I literally don't care. So I'm not pretending to be anyone I'm not. I'm not going to hide stories. I'm puking insanity on you. And if you can handle it, great. If not, we should know very early that it's not going to work. But I'm not cutesy anymore. I need to do that again.
00:49:59
Speaker 3: Is that cutesy though?
00:50:01
Speaker 1: It is cutesy. I just haven't sent my butthole to anyone in a long time.
00:50:04
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I'm sending my butthole even to him.
00:50:06
Speaker 1: No? No. I mean, it's great.
00:50:08
Speaker 3: It's a great butthole.
00:50:09
Speaker 4: I think all of these things that you're speaking about, it takes inspiration.
00:50:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. From the other party.
00:50:16
Speaker 2: It takes desire to want to do it.
00:50:19
Speaker 3: Are you receiving? Are you on the receiving end of any of these?
00:50:22
Speaker 2: Of like, I mean, I've gotten my fair share.
00:50:26
Speaker 3: So you motivated them to send something?
00:50:28
Speaker 2: I don't never ask.
00:50:30
Speaker 4: I never ask.
00:50:31
Speaker 1: Good for you, Specs.
00:50:32
Speaker 2: I never act.
00:50:34
Speaker 1: A non-requested nude is high flattery.
00:50:37
Speaker 3: Well, how does it feel to get one that you didn't ask for, but you enjoy?
00:50:41
Speaker 2: Oh, what? You feel like a million bucks. I feel like, what? Come on. I feel like a champion. I feel like, are you serious? I'm like, all this for me?
00:50:51
Speaker 3: Do you respond like hoping you'll get another?
00:50:53
Speaker 2: All this for me?
00:50:54
Speaker 4: Like, are you serious? Like, I remember I was seeing this. I was seeing this girl. And I used to work at the time I worked at H and L. So I was always around people, but my manager was cool. So we have a phone out because, you know, we had other people on the staff that had kids sometimes.
00:51:12
Speaker 2: You know, so you were like, look, as long as y'all keep it to a minimum, it's all good.
00:51:16
Speaker 4: And I just remember one time I was handing, you know, this customer a few blouse blouses.
00:51:24
Speaker 2: I don't know if the blouse side, I don't know.
00:51:27
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Um, And like, it just came up because I was already texting. And then the picture just came up on the thread. And I had to like, I was like, oh. But I was very appreciative of that. You know what I'm saying?
00:51:41
Speaker 3: Made your day?
00:51:42
Speaker 2: Come on.
00:51:43
Speaker 4: It made my, the brightest it may have ever been. I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. If you want to capture the goodies and send them to your boy.
00:51:55
Speaker 2: Come on, man.
00:51:56
Speaker 4: Moneybox is forever open for that.
00:51:59
Speaker 2: You know what?
00:52:00
Speaker 1: That level of appreciation is what will get you.
00:52:04
Speaker 2: I get to cheesing, girl. I will get to cheesing.
00:52:08
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they wouldn't get to cheesing, but the risk I feel of not, because if I send a selfie and I don't get the energy that I want from that selfie, I'm not sending you any more pictures.
00:52:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I wouldn't either.
00:52:21
Speaker 1: Like, what? I just sent you a picture of me and you hearted it?
00:52:26
Speaker 3: You didn't say anything at all. You didn't have no heart.
00:52:30
Speaker 1: Heart? Like, beep beep? That's what you have for me? What?
00:52:36
Speaker 3: That would piss me off.
00:52:39
Speaker 1: You're never getting another photo of me. Why would I send you, why would I, why would I de-robe if that is the energy I'm getting from a selfie?
00:52:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to test it. You got to test the wires with the selfie before you even think about it.
00:52:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't, you know.
00:52:55
Speaker 1: But I'm probably wrong. I probably just need to start sending my boobs to people.
00:53:00
Speaker 3: I still want to see your search history.
00:53:02
Speaker 1: No, ma'am. No, ma'am. Keep in mind, I'm a porn watcher, so that's not happening. But, see.
00:53:12
Speaker 3: Now I'm curious.
00:53:12
Speaker 1: It's all above board.
00:53:13
Speaker 2: It's all relative.
00:53:14
Speaker 1: It's all above board. I'm not on the dark web, okay? I just, I don't know.
00:53:18
Speaker 2: We're good, we're good.
00:53:20
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then, like, just let me dumb shit. Like, you ever Google something that's so fucking embarrassing? Like, if anyone knew that I had to Google this because I can't remember.
00:53:29
Speaker 4: What's that?
00:53:29
Speaker 3: Have you seen that?
00:53:30
Speaker 1: Like, what's five plus seven?
00:53:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, they tried to make it like a like a trend where it's like I took my husband's phone and.
00:53:38
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that shit. Those are actually the ones I'd be scared of. Like I represent myself as too much of an intellect to have some of these things.
00:53:48
Speaker 3: You know, there's a challenge with especially if you're a chat GPT like talker where you what do you tell it? You tell it to give you like the most unfiltered. opinion, like, rip me an asshole, like, you're a comedian on stage, this is.
00:54:04
Speaker 1: Like, a roast. I'm not that close with my chat. I don't go to my chat every day.
00:54:10
Speaker 3: Some people, it's, they're crazy, the responses they get.
00:54:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, because they have, like, this, like, not even parasocial, like, paradigital, like, relationship with their chats. I am not on, I am not on my chatbot every day. Like, maybe once a week, I'm like, hey, can you reorganize this email for me? Right. I'm not... I have a light situationship with my chat. They don't, they wouldn't have anything of interest to say to me. Also, why would you want to get, people are so fucking weird. I don't know.
00:54:37
Speaker 3: There's all these damn trends. I can't keep up.
00:54:40
Speaker 1: So you're going camera roll.
00:54:42
Speaker 3: I'm going both. You got both of them.
00:54:43
Speaker 1: Oh no. I ain't got, I ain't got shit to hide. You ain't got shit to hide?
00:54:46
Speaker 3: Mm-mm.
00:54:47
Speaker 4: I do.
00:54:47
Speaker 3: That shit is how to make a Tom Holland Spider-Man suit. How to make Spider-Man fluid. That shit is like a hundred tabs.
00:54:56
Speaker 1: Crazy. Oh, Well, thanks for joining us today, guys. Make sure that you hit subscribe and follow us on social at 2PersonalShow, and we'll catch you next time.