Full Transcript for Chris Ramsay (Area52) CASHES in on ANOTHER proven hoax! (Dr. Johnathan Reed hoax)

guy is a doctor. Then you sat 79 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:10.139 across from him for three or four hours and you 80 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.079 didn't once think to bring up that his education is fake, 81 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.519 that his claimed degrees are fake, that his claimed profession 82 00:05:16.579 --> 00:05:20.540 is fake, that his... Friends that he claims are doctors 83 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:25.399 are doing DNA samples confirming alien origins. Those guys are fake. 84 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.829 Everything about Dr. Jonathan Reed is fake. And there's that 85 00:05:29.889 --> 00:05:34.990 ridiculous armband video. Did you know that the gasping sound 86 00:05:35.050 --> 00:05:38.910 effect in that video was taken directly out of the 87 00:05:38.949 --> 00:05:42.939 movie Eyes Wide Shut? You know, he vanishes with this 88 00:05:43.100 --> 00:05:46.620 alien artifact on, right? He turns into a ball of light. 89 00:05:47.410 --> 00:05:50.589 That was a complete and total hoax. And we know 90 00:05:50.629 --> 00:05:53.810 that because he took a movie sound effect and spliced 91 00:05:53.889 --> 00:05:58.259 it into his so-called proof video. It's complete horseshit. And 92 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.379 what about all the people that were in the studio audience? 93 00:06:00.420 --> 00:06:03.040 Can we interview them? Did they all really see him 94 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:05.459 turn into a ball of light? This is so stupid. 95 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:08.600 And this whole story is stupid. Guy kills an alien, 96 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:10.439 drags it back to his house, and he puts it 97 00:06:10.500 --> 00:06:13.519 in the freezer. Then it comes back to life. It's 98 00:06:13.579 --> 00:06:17.550 just so stupid. And, you know, another thing that really 99 00:06:17.610 --> 00:06:22.449 bothers me is, you know, I really like to think 100 00:06:22.470 --> 00:06:25.889 that there's justice in the world. So Chris Ramsey, go 101 00:06:25.910 --> 00:06:28.769 look what happened to David Wilcock for promoting hoaxes and 102 00:06:28.829 --> 00:06:31.740 lying to his audience. Go look what happened to Corey 103 00:06:31.779 --> 00:06:35.600 Goode or, you know, so many of these other people, right? 104 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:39.899 Who's the Dumbs guy, the deep underground military base guy? 105 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:47.529 That guy unalived himself. Chris Ramsey has no ethics, no morals, 106 00:06:47.970 --> 00:06:51.209 no scruples. He's willing to lie to his audience. He's 107 00:06:51.250 --> 00:06:55.050 willing to do literally anything just so that he can 108 00:06:55.089 --> 00:06:57.620 make a few thousand dollars. And I'm here to tell you, 109 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:00.500 Chris Ramsey, if you need a few thousand dollars so 110 00:07:00.579 --> 00:07:02.800 bad that you're willing to just be a complete and 111 00:07:02.860 --> 00:07:06.980 total lying scumbag degenerate on the internet, then I feel 112 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:10.730 sorry for you. Like, how do your parents feel about 113 00:07:10.769 --> 00:07:14.120 what you're doing? with your life. Like my son's doing 114 00:07:14.139 --> 00:07:18.939 a great job helping proven scamming liars with fake educations, 115 00:07:19.019 --> 00:07:22.370 tell fake alien stories on the internet. If he was 116 00:07:22.449 --> 00:07:25.189 my son, I would disown him and be completely and 117 00:07:25.230 --> 00:07:29.509 totally ashamed of him. You know, And maybe his parents 118 00:07:29.550 --> 00:07:31.910 went wrong somewhere and didn't teach him that you can't 119 00:07:31.930 --> 00:07:34.480 just lie to people for money. But this is where 120 00:07:34.509 --> 00:07:36.759 we're at, and this is where we find ourselves. And 121 00:07:36.779 --> 00:07:42.459 these degenerate scumbag losers, there's three options are available here 122 00:07:42.939 --> 00:07:46.449 to explain what Chris Ramsey is doing. The first option 123 00:07:46.629 --> 00:07:51.639 is that he's retarded. And if he's truly retarded or 124 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:55.100 mentally handicapped or deficient in some way, then I'll have 125 00:07:55.139 --> 00:07:58.379 to forgive him for lying to everybody for money. Because 126 00:07:58.420 --> 00:08:03.199 he just doesn't have the gray matter to realize that 127 00:08:03.220 --> 00:08:06.060 he's just lying to people for money. So if he's 128 00:08:06.110 --> 00:08:07.870 truly retarded, but I'm going to have to see some 129 00:08:07.910 --> 00:08:11.050 paperwork and proof of mental retardation before I give him 130 00:08:11.069 --> 00:08:14.110 a pass. And by the way, I've covered him several 131 00:08:14.170 --> 00:08:18.500 times now. Bob Lazar, fake convicted pimp scientist that you 132 00:08:18.509 --> 00:08:21.639 sat across from and pretended he was a real scientist. 133 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:28.399 Proven hoaxer. Travis Walton, proven hoaxer. Jeremy Corbell, proven hoaxer. 134 00:08:28.459 --> 00:08:30.740 Like how many people is he going to platform and 135 00:08:30.779 --> 00:08:34.360 sit across from and just pretend? They aren't lying scumbag 136 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:38.370 grifters and scammers. But this is where he is. He's 137 00:08:38.470 --> 00:08:41.830 in with the proven lying grifting scumbags and big friend 138 00:08:41.889 --> 00:08:46.309 of Jesse Michaels who's promoting hoaxes too now. Everybody, all 139 00:08:46.350 --> 00:08:51.090 the big podcasts now, the big UFO podcasts, Y-Files, Jesse Michaels, 140 00:08:51.149 --> 00:08:54.200 this guy Chris Ramsey, and a whole slew of others 141 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:57.480 are just like, you know what? Fuck it. There's no consequences. 142 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:02.090 There's no consequences. If we get caught promoting a scamming, 143 00:09:02.169 --> 00:09:08.370 lying hoaxer, there's no consequences. So they've gotten bolder lately. Like, 144 00:09:08.389 --> 00:09:12.210 we're just going to promote and profit from completely and 145

00:09:12.289 --> 00:09:15.990 totally proven hoaxes. And in this case, the Jonathan Reed 146 00:09:16.049 --> 00:09:19.330 case has been a proven hoax for over 20 years. Now, 147 00:09:19.350 --> 00:09:21.879 let's talk about that. I have some prepared statement, but 148 00:09:21.889 --> 00:09:25.929 it's very short. This is easy to debunk this. So 149 00:09:25.990 --> 00:09:31.590 let's meet the quote, doctor, unquote, Jonathan Reed, the man 150 00:09:31.629 --> 00:09:35.250 that claims in October in the 1990s while hiking near 151 00:09:35.309 --> 00:09:38.590 Seattle with his golden retriever, Susie. By the way, he 152 00:09:38.649 --> 00:09:40.909 never owned a dog and he was allergic to dogs. 153 00:09:41.250 --> 00:09:43.990 Did you know that, Chris Ramsey? There's on the record 154 00:09:44.029 --> 00:09:46.840 testimony that he never owned that dog. What did he do? 155 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.980 Just borrow it with some pictures to put it in 156 00:09:49.019 --> 00:09:52.360 the story? I don't know. Never owned the dog. He 157 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:54.929 claims that he bashed a small alien over the head 158 00:09:54.950 --> 00:09:58.169 with a big stick. First it was a baseball bat, 159 00:09:58.220 --> 00:10:02.009 but he had a wreck on it. uh and he 160 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:05.740 claims he did that because the alien vaporized his dog 161 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:08.279 into ash but again he never owned the dog he 162 00:10:08.299 --> 00:10:12.740 was highly allergic to dogs then does the fake doctor 163 00:10:12.820 --> 00:10:15.720 jonathan reed hauled the body home and he parked it 164 00:10:15.779 --> 00:10:20.779 in his freezer And then he made videos, photos, and 165 00:10:20.820 --> 00:10:24.519 he got a magic bracelet from the alien that somehow 166 00:10:24.659 --> 00:10:28.470 supposedly teleports him. But there's a big snag here in 167 00:10:28.509 --> 00:10:31.169 the whole story, and this is something that Chris Ramsey 168 00:10:31.210 --> 00:10:35.110 didn't tell his audience because he's a lying fucking scumbag. 169 00:10:36.230 --> 00:10:41.899 Almost none of Dr. Jonathan Reed's claims survives contact with 170 00:10:42.139 --> 00:10:47.149 even the most basic fact-checking. Reed's real name, he even 171 00:10:47.350 --> 00:10:52.279 faked his name, is John Bradley Rutter. He's not a doctor. 172 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:56.620 He's not a psychologist or a psychiatrist. And multiple investigators, 173 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.799 including myself, found no records of the degrees or University 174 00:11:01.820 --> 00:11:04.899 of Washington employment that he claimed. And by the way, 175 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:07.649 I checked under both names, Chris Ramsey. He never worked 176 00:11:07.710 --> 00:11:10.649 where he claimed. He never got degrees under either name. 177 00:11:11.149 --> 00:11:14.950 He lied about all of that. His co-author, for some 178 00:11:14.970 --> 00:11:19.169 of this, whose professional writer Robert Raith and the so-called 179 00:11:19.220 --> 00:11:23.700 DNA expert who supposedly analyzed the alien tissues, his name 180 00:11:23.740 --> 00:11:27.860 was Harold Chacon, were both clerks at the same West 181 00:11:27.899 --> 00:11:31.820 Seattle Chevron mini-mart, which just so happens to be the 182 00:11:31.860 --> 00:11:38.070 closest to this doctor, the fake doctor's house. His longtime 183 00:11:38.090 --> 00:11:40.710 girlfriend said he never owned a dog and that he 184 00:11:40.730 --> 00:11:44.190 was allergic to animals. This has been confirmed multiple times. 185 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.519 the physical evidence that he claims to have fares no better. 186 00:11:49.059 --> 00:11:51.379 The Jeep he said he used to haul the alien 187 00:11:51.419 --> 00:11:56.570 back to his house wasn't purchased until April 1997, which 188 00:11:56.870 --> 00:12:02.029 is something like a year after he claimed that he 189 00:12:02.169 --> 00:12:05.789 used the Jeep in the alien escapades. In other words, 190 00:12:05.830 --> 00:12:09.019 he claimed he owned this Jeep During the time, and 191 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.500 he used the Jeep to haul the alien back and 192 00:12:11.539 --> 00:12:13.500 put it in the freezer, but he didn't own that 193 00:12:13.539 --> 00:12:17.929 Jeep until 1997. Public records confirm that. The Kodak film 194 00:12:17.970 --> 00:12:22.110 for the photos wasn't even manufactured until years after the 195 00:12:22.269 --> 00:12:28.009 alleged encounter. The video shows what looks like an alien 196 00:12:28.049 --> 00:12:31.440 body propped with dubbed movie and video game sound effects, 197 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.250 and acting that wouldn't pass a high school play. A 198 00:12:35.289 --> 00:12:38.409 later TV recreation with a Hollywood dummy and voice stress 199 00:12:38.450 --> 00:12:43.820 analysis only reinforced the fraud conclusion. This has all this 200 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:47.000 information that Jonathan Reed is a fake doctor with a 201 00:12:47.059 --> 00:12:50.519 fake education and a fake work history. He lied about 202 00:12:50.539 --> 00:12:53.539 the Jeep. He lied about owning a dog. All of 203 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:57.019 this has been public for more than 20 years. The 204 00:12:57.059 --> 00:13:02.549 Seattle UFO Paranormal Group called it a collaborative hoax in 2001. 205 00:13:02.549 --> 00:13:06.210 But it was really UFO Watchdog Paranormal. who laid out 206 00:13:06.250 --> 00:13:09.830 the real identities, the fake credentials of the people that 207 00:13:09.870 --> 00:13:13.350 he claimed were co-signing or propping up his story, and 208 00:13:13.389 --> 00:13:16.850 the timeline and possibilities. And he did it in detailed 209 00:13:16.909 --> 00:13:22.269 reports and on radio in 2002. But Rudder has kept 210 00:13:22.309 --> 00:13:26.529 the act going anyway. Interviews, books, occasional new claim about 211 00:13:26.590 --> 00:13:31.730 dead protectors or ongoing contact. The only

thing reliably killed 212 00:13:31.850 --> 00:13:35.460 in this story was the credibility of anyone promoting it 213 00:13:35.950 --> 00:13:40.009 and especially anyone profiting from it. And let's be clear, 214 00:13:40.090 --> 00:13:42.350 who are some of the people that have profited from 215 00:13:42.509 --> 00:13:45.490 and promoted this hoax? Third Phase of Moon, the biggest 216 00:13:45.649 --> 00:13:51.570 alien UFO hoaxers on YouTube. Jimmy Church, and then Jaime Muson, 217 00:13:51.629 --> 00:13:55.600 the biggest hoax promoter in Mexico. These are not credible people, 218 00:13:55.649 --> 00:13:58.360 so welcome to the club, Chris Ramsey. You are now 219 00:13:58.379 --> 00:14:01.620 a scumbag, just like Jimmy Church, just like Third Phase 220 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.259 of Moon, and just like Jaime Muson. as well as 221 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:09.679 some other lesser-known players like Dr. J. We busted him 222 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:14.460 promoting this scam and this hoax. And this just gets 223 00:14:14.539 --> 00:14:18.919 completely and totally ridiculous. And by the way, the UFO 224 00:14:18.990 --> 00:14:24.049 Watchdog is a great resource, and he expertly ripped this 225 00:14:24.110 --> 00:14:27.690 story to shreds in 2001, I think it was, or 226 00:14:27.750 --> 00:14:30.710 even before that. As soon as the story came out, 227 00:14:31.429 --> 00:14:34.210 UFO Watchdog... which a lot of people say is sort 228 00:14:34.230 --> 00:14:38.049 of the predecessor to Truthseekers. He's a great guy, great researcher. 229 00:14:38.610 --> 00:14:40.960 He ripped the whole story to shreds, and all that 230 00:14:41.009 --> 00:14:45.019 has been on the internet this entire time, right? And 231 00:14:45.220 --> 00:14:47.759 why is Chris Ramsey just sitting across from this guy 232 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:51.279 pretending he's a doctor? Why is he lying to his audience, 233 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.860 putting the word doctor in the text body? Do you 234 00:14:54.899 --> 00:14:58.019 know Chris Ramsey? I think that's a community guideline strike. 235 00:14:58.470 --> 00:15:04.820 That's inauthentic content or something, right? You're clickbait scamming your audience. 236 00:15:04.909 --> 00:15:08.029 You're clickbait scamming everybody on YouTube with fake claims that 237 00:15:08.049 --> 00:15:11.240 this guy's a doctor. All the public records are available. 238 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:13.500 He's not a doctor. He's not a psychiatrist. He's a 239 00:15:13.539 --> 00:15:18.500 complete and total fraud. The Starlight Warrior with one for 240 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:23.879 the goal says, excellent reasoning. Why this matter, my man? 241 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:28.019 I'm not sure. And maybe you mean on this matter, 242 00:15:28.059 --> 00:15:30.480 my man. But we thank you for your kindness, generosity, 243 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:32.240 and big, big support of the show. It is much, 244 00:15:32.299 --> 00:15:36.539 much appreciated. And I'm a

terrible show host. And I 245 00:15:36.580 --> 00:15:40.200 forgot to, let me set a goal here for tonight. 246 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:44.100 Because by the way, we have to have, Chris Ramsey 247 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:46.700 gets to just lie to people, right? He gets to 248 00:15:46.740 --> 00:15:49.970 just lie to people and make more than enough on 249 00:15:50.070 --> 00:15:52.610 ad revenue because he's willing to lie to his audience 250 00:15:52.649 --> 00:15:55.210 and everybody on YouTube that he doesn't have to worry 251 00:15:55.250 --> 00:15:59.110 about viewer support. But we have to worry about that 252 00:15:59.169 --> 00:16:04.690 because I will make, I don't know, 5% of the 253 00:16:04.789 --> 00:16:07.690 ad revenue telling you the truth about this case and 254 00:16:07.730 --> 00:16:11.549 this story that Chris Ramsey makes lying to you about it. 255 00:16:12.029 --> 00:16:15.370 And I really try not to let these things bother me, 256 00:16:15.409 --> 00:16:19.269 but the longer that I continue hosting this show, the 257 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:22.559 more this shit is starting to really piss me off. 258 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:26.419 How come Chris Ramsey gets to be paid so much 259 00:16:26.500 --> 00:16:29.620 for playing along with the bullshit and lying to everybody. 260 00:16:29.970 --> 00:16:32.950 And I get penalized for simply telling people the truth 261 00:16:32.990 --> 00:16:36.909 about the story. It just feels like the world's not fair. But, 262 00:16:36.950 --> 00:16:38.909 you know, no one said life is fair. So what 263 00:16:38.929 --> 00:16:42.570 are you going to do? So I've set a goal 264 00:16:42.610 --> 00:16:45.549 for tonight and we'll do overtime. We'll do some overtime 265 00:16:45.610 --> 00:16:49.470 wackadoos if we can hit a goal tonight. And it 266 00:16:49.490 --> 00:16:52.059 would be great if we could. And I should remind 267 00:16:52.100 --> 00:16:55.720 everybody that because of this truth tax, you know, I 268 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.460 get fucked. I get totally fucked as a show host. 269 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:01.059 Every single show that I do telling people the truth. 270 00:17:01.500 --> 00:17:05.740 I get fucked and fucked again. And meanwhile, this guy 271 00:17:05.769 --> 00:17:08.569 Chris Ramsey, he can just lie to everybody on YouTube. 272 00:17:08.869 --> 00:17:12.730 Just lie right in the title. Dr. Jonathan Reed. He's 273 00:17:12.750 --> 00:17:14.529 not a doctor, you moron. 274 00:17:15.390 --> 00:17:16.009 Get a job. 275 00:17:16.410 --> 00:17:18.390 All right. 276 00:17:19.380 --> 00:17:22.000 We want to thank Jacob de Jong from the Netherlands, 277 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:25.019 who's been a member for 26 months. That's 26 months 278 00:17:25.059 --> 00:17:27.539 of support, and that is very, very kind and generous 279 00:17:27.619 --> 00:17:29.599 of you. Thank you, Jacob de Jong, for being a 280 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:35.480 member for so long. We truly appreciate your support. Now 281 00:17:35.500 --> 00:17:39.019 I've got Winter Soldier throwing a penny at me over 282 00:17:39.099 --> 00:17:41.460 on the Kik channel, but we do have Eldrick Horror, 283 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:43.740 who just followed the channel. 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And we appreciate everybody who is 294 00:18:10.500 --> 00:18:15.029 following us on kick because you know, we really have 295 00:18:15.049 --> 00:18:17.710 to expand our viewership on kick so that we can 296 00:18:17.789 --> 00:18:22.599 begin those kick only shows. And we would appreciate your kindness, generosity, 297 00:18:22.660 --> 00:18:26.140 and support. Eldrick horror is in the live chat saying, 298 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:31.099 expose all these frauds. Yeah. I can't, I I'm here. 299 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:34.460 I show up. We tell people the truth and then 300 00:18:34.500 --> 00:18:35.839 I get penalized for it. 301 00:18:35.920 --> 00:18:36.140 Right. 302 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:42.869 Plan D says, Jesus Christ, Tabernacle, not him again. This 303 00:18:42.970 --> 00:18:48.289 is stupid, right? And we've got Scary Stardust says, can't 304 00:18:48.329 --> 00:18:52.470 stand that Ramsey twat. I'm starting to really dislike him. Oh, 305 00:18:52.650 --> 00:18:58.440 I started a point that I totally lost my train 306 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:01.359 of thought. So there's three possibilities of why Chris Ramsey 307 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:05.059 is doing this. Number one, he's retarded. Number two, he 308 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:09.500 is the laziest slob of a show host that has 309 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:13.359 ever done a show on UFOs or aliens. That's the 310 00:19:13.420 --> 00:19:15.869 only excuse for missing all of the facts that are 311 00:19:15.900 --> 00:19:18.269 out there on the internet about this being a completely 312 00:19:18.289 --> 00:19:24.029 and totally 100% fake bullshit story. And the third option 313 00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:26.569 is that he knows this stuff is all fake and 314 00:19:26.630 --> 00:19:29.329 he's just there to get his money. He's just going 315 00:19:29.349 --> 00:19:34.329 to throw his lot in with these scamming, lying

fakers 316 00:19:34.410 --> 00:19:37.680 and fraudsters and LARPers. As long as he gets paid, 317 00:19:37.740 --> 00:19:41.019 he's okay. with hanging out with all these lying scumbags. 318 00:19:41.059 --> 00:19:43.839 He's okay with hanging out with people who lied about 319 00:19:43.859 --> 00:19:46.809 being a doctor, lied about their education, lied about their 320 00:19:46.869 --> 00:19:49.970 work history. He's just okay with it. And by the way, 321 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:53.460 there's one troubling aspect of the story that I just 322 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:57.299 want to mention. Chris Ramsey is apparently a magician, and 323 00:19:57.339 --> 00:19:59.420 a lot of people know that I was a stage magician, 324 00:19:59.920 --> 00:20:04.000 award-winning professional stage magician for years and years and years. 325 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:07.619 And there's one part of this story that any magician 326 00:20:07.660 --> 00:20:11.349 would catch right away. And that is that Dr. Jonathan 327 00:20:11.430 --> 00:20:15.730 Reed showed a picture of the so-called alien spaceship floating 328 00:20:16.130 --> 00:20:19.990 in the forest. And that was accomplished with a magic 329 00:20:20.069 --> 00:20:25.589 trick that Chris Ramsey would be intimately familiar with. Any magician, 330 00:20:25.990 --> 00:20:29.609 it's in every magic book you get. Almost any book 331 00:20:29.650 --> 00:20:32.369 about magic tricks and illusions will have this in there. 332 00:20:32.769 --> 00:20:36.430 It's called a super X levitation. Chris Ramsey, taking one 333 00:20:36.470 --> 00:20:39.539 look at that photo as a magician, would know. that 334 00:20:39.579 --> 00:20:43.619 he so-called floated that spaceship in the forest with something 335 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:45.980 called a super X levitation. Now, I'm not going to 336 00:20:46.019 --> 00:20:48.609 reveal the inner workings of magic tricks here. It's just 337 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:50.640 not what we do. And I don't want a bunch 338 00:20:50.660 --> 00:20:53.769 of magicians pissed off at me for revealing secrets. You know, 339 00:20:54.890 --> 00:20:57.369 I guess I'm still kind of in that club. But anyway, 340 00:20:57.809 --> 00:21:00.250 Chris Ramsey is a magician which should be able to 341 00:21:00.309 --> 00:21:03.009 take one look at that photograph and say, that's a 342 00:21:03.069 --> 00:21:07.619 super X levitation. That's not real. He didn't. He acted 343 00:21:07.660 --> 00:21:12.299 like he knew nothing about magic tricks and levitation, illusion 344 00:21:12.339 --> 00:21:16.180 techniques while he interviewed this asshole. While he just sat 345 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:20.210 there like a moron, right? He's just sitting there salivating, 346 00:21:20.289 --> 00:21:25.549 talking to this hoaxing scumbag fake doctor. Just sitting there salivating, 347 00:21:25.650 --> 00:21:27.809 waiting for his paycheck. And by the way, it's a 348 00:21:27.849 --> 00:21:30.380 fair estimate. He's going to make something, I don't know, 349 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:34.039 between $ 4, 000 and $ 10, 000 in ad revenue. And all he 350 00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:36.299 had to do was sit there like a dummy and 351 00:21:36.380 --> 00:21:39.569 pretend he doesn't know all of the facts that I'm 352 00:21:39.589 --> 00:21:41.549 going to give you tonight. But we're going to put 353 00:21:41.589 --> 00:21:45.269 our fair use banner up and sample some of the interview. 354 00:21:45.650 --> 00:21:49.470 Then I'm going to show you a, it's almost 20 year, 355 00:21:49.849 --> 00:21:53.720 more than 20 year old debunk that completely destroys the story. 356 00:21:54.099 --> 00:21:56.380 If I could find it, anybody could find it. Why 357 00:21:56.420 --> 00:21:59.660 couldn't he find it before platforming this asshole? Because he 358 00:21:59.700 --> 00:22:02.720 doesn't care. He's just here for the money. He is 359 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:07.720 a greedy, lazy slob. And the fact, oh, and that's 360 00:22:07.740 --> 00:22:11.210 another thing. You fans of his, don't come in my 361 00:22:11.269 --> 00:22:16.509 comments and defend him. He's lying to you. He's scamming you. 362 00:22:16.809 --> 00:22:21.200 He's scamming everybody on YouTube with completely and totally fake doctor, 363 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:25.059 pretending he's a doctor, calling him doctor through the whole interview. 364 00:22:26.309 --> 00:22:29.509 Don't come here and defend him. What he is doing 365 00:22:29.910 --> 00:22:34.269 is scumbaggery. There is no defense for it other than 366 00:22:34.589 --> 00:22:39.990 he's a greedy, despicable, grifting scumbag that is perfectly fine 367 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:43.579 with lying to everybody as long as the paycheck is good. 368 00:22:44.740 --> 00:22:47.920 And I'm tired of these people. So let's put my 369 00:22:47.980 --> 00:22:51.710 fair use banner up. These Grifters hate it when I 370 00:22:51.809 --> 00:22:54.190 use their own videos to show everybody what a lying 371 00:22:54.250 --> 00:22:57.269 scumbag they are. And sometimes they file false copyright claims. 372 00:22:57.309 --> 00:23:00.930 I'm just going to say, you know, lawyer letters are 373 00:23:00.970 --> 00:23:06.460 standing by. We have the lawyer letters ready. So Copy 374 00:23:06.500 --> 00:23:11.880 Barrett supporter just sent a thousand, a thousand kicks. Very, 375 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:15.269 very kind of you, Copy Barrett. Copy Bearer Supporter is 376 00:23:15.309 --> 00:23:18.470 the MVP of the kick chat. See that, Winter Soldier? 377 00:23:18.549 --> 00:23:20.930 Some people have more than pennies to throw in the hat. 378 00:23:21.509 --> 00:23:26.000 We appreciate Winter Soldier's penny, too. But I appreciate Copy 379 00:23:26.019 --> 00:23:29.599 Bearer Supporter a thousand kicks more. And by the way, 380 00:23:29.619 --> 00:23:33.640 I just want to mention that we've only got a 381 00:23:33.740 --> 00:23:36.960 few more days. What do we have? One, two, three, four, 382

00:23:37.259 --> 00:23:41.420 five more days of getting kick support. before Kick will 383 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:44.420 give me that extra paycheck. And I really appreciate the 384 00:23:44.460 --> 00:23:48.500 Kick support. Now's the time. If you're feeling generous, now 385 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:51.329 is the time to be generous on Kick, because I 386 00:23:51.369 --> 00:23:53.670 get that money right away on the first of the month. 387 00:23:53.769 --> 00:23:56.430 God bless Kick, and God bless all you Kick supporters. 388 00:23:56.509 --> 00:23:59.529 Praise the cash, bitches! You see that, Chris Ramsey? I 389 00:23:59.549 --> 00:24:02.089 don't need to lie to people. I don't need to scam. 390 00:24:02.450 --> 00:24:05.650 I don't need to help scammers scam more people. And 391 00:24:05.690 --> 00:24:08.799 I'm sure that what this guy, you know, His supporters 392 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.950 are like, he's just exploring topics. Well, explore both sides 393 00:24:13.009 --> 00:24:16.190 of them. He does like 30 seconds where he's like, 394 00:24:16.269 --> 00:24:18.839 I'm not sure I believe him, but it's an interesting 395 00:24:18.940 --> 00:24:23.519 story that doesn't absolve him from sitting there like an asshole. 396 00:24:23.950 --> 00:24:26.690 and pretending the guy's a real doctor and a real 397 00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:30.430 psychiatrist for three or four hours. That's not, that doesn't 398 00:24:30.670 --> 00:24:33.309 give him a pass. You don't get a pass for 399 00:24:33.369 --> 00:24:37.559 helping promote a 20-plus-year-old hoax just because you go, well, 400 00:24:37.579 --> 00:24:41.160 I'm not sure if I believe him, right? We want 401 00:24:41.180 --> 00:24:43.400 to take a moment to thank a kind and generous benefactor. 402 00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:47.900 Meepadode Tumba says the amount of energy, yeah, this is 403 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:51.160 Brandolini's law. I talk about this all the time. The 404 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:54.690 amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order 405 00:24:54.730 --> 00:24:58.630 of magnitude bigger than needed to produce it. Thank you 406 00:24:58.670 --> 00:25:01.869 for all you do. Thank you, me pedote tumba. And 407 00:25:01.910 --> 00:25:05.410 thank you for reminding me of Brandolini's law. And that's 408 00:25:05.450 --> 00:25:08.420 a problem that I have. I have to work so hard. 409 00:25:08.740 --> 00:25:11.000 He doesn't have to do anything. He's a fat slob. 410 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:14.039 All he has to do is sit there and pretend 411 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.829 that a fake doctor is a doctor. He is a lazy, 412 00:25:17.970 --> 00:25:22.450 lazy slob. No energy, low energy. It doesn't matter. Just 413 00:25:22.529 --> 00:25:26.049 sit there and pretend and then get your money. That's 414 00:25:26.109 --> 00:25:28.710 what this guy's game is. But thank you. Me, me, 415 00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:32.140 Padoda Tumba. And actually, I apologize if I commented on 416 00:25:32.180 --> 00:25:34.359 his weight, but it's kind of funny because doesn't he 417 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:39.309 sell supplements and stuff, right? Yeah. Or no, he, he's, he's, uh, 418 00:25:39.829 --> 00:25:43.329 He's hocking pre-prepared meals. That's one of the things that 419 00:25:43.369 --> 00:25:46.990 he promotes, pre-prepared meals. And I'm sorry, not sorry, I'm 420 00:25:47.029 --> 00:25:50.289 not taking meal advice or nutrition advice from a guy 421 00:25:50.329 --> 00:25:52.559 that big. I'm just not going to do it. It 422 00:25:52.579 --> 00:25:55.359 just doesn't make any sense, you know? I'm not going to, 423 00:25:55.940 --> 00:25:58.140 I don't know, I'm not going to take, you know, 424 00:25:59.140 --> 00:26:02.640 haircut advice from a bald man, you know? Trolly Troll 425 00:26:02.700 --> 00:26:04.960 Troll is here with one for the call saying, how 426 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.299 was your weekend? It was great. I worked on the cabin. 427 00:26:09.130 --> 00:26:11.430 I can't get back to the cabin this weekend because 428 00:26:11.450 --> 00:26:14.809 it's Halloween and I've got to spend Halloween with my children. Well, 429 00:26:14.829 --> 00:26:18.029 I don't. God, I want to. So the following week, 430 00:26:18.309 --> 00:26:22.309 I have a three-day weekend planned. I'll be there Friday, Saturday, 431 00:26:22.349 --> 00:26:26.829 and Sunday. And I'm hoping that I will have enough 432 00:26:26.869 --> 00:26:30.250 time to finish the few little things that are left 433 00:26:30.369 --> 00:26:32.990 on the inside of the cabin. The roof is basically 434 00:26:33.029 --> 00:26:35.369 back on. The wood stove is in. I have to 435 00:26:35.450 --> 00:26:38.710 chink the inside walls of the cabin between the logs. 436 00:26:39.069 --> 00:26:41.940 I have to put a stone floor in, and I 437 00:26:41.980 --> 00:26:44.380 have to fill the gap because of the slanted roof 438 00:26:44.500 --> 00:26:47.819 on the sidewalls. But I've got all the materials. They're 439 00:26:47.859 --> 00:26:51.359 all inside the cabin, except for the mortar mix. So 440 00:26:51.380 --> 00:26:55.930 that'll be fun, carrying in, I don't know, 800 pounds 441 00:26:55.970 --> 00:26:58.210 of mortar mix I've got to carry in. But, I mean, 442 00:26:58.349 --> 00:27:01.549 it's not that bad. I can drive in there now. 443 00:27:02.009 --> 00:27:04.730 But thank you, Trolly Troll Troll, for your kindness, generosity, 444 00:27:04.750 --> 00:27:07.460 and big, big support of the show. Big-time show supporter. 445 00:27:09.029 --> 00:27:13.089 One moment, let's get to the video. The man who 446 00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:18.599 killed an alien, Dr. Jonathan Reed. Even the title screams clickbait. 447 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.759 And look at this, how hokey. It's so hokey. This 448 00:27:22.819 --> 00:27:27.059 guy's so-called evidence is so hokey. And by the way, 449 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.880 Chris Ramsey, did you know that this guy's favorite show 450

00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.119 was The X-Files? Who would have guessed, right? His girlfriend 451 00:27:33.299 --> 00:27:34.359 gave up that, right? 452 00:27:34.539 --> 00:27:35.000 Ha ha! 453 00:27:35.619 --> 00:27:39.539 Alright, we're going to Oh, let me get over there. 454 00:27:39.700 --> 00:27:43.259 We'll share this video. And I'm not sure how much 455 00:27:43.299 --> 00:27:45.700 of this we're going to do because the debunks are 456 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.660 going to take a while to get through. And I 457 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:51.380 want to put this all on record. The interesting thing 458 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:54.200 is there's some other shows where we cover Jonathan Reed. 459 00:27:54.740 --> 00:27:58.269 When idiot Jimmy Church tried to make some money off 460 00:27:58.309 --> 00:28:01.349 of this. When idiot Dr. J tried to make some 461 00:28:01.369 --> 00:28:03.890 money off of this. When idiot Third Phase of Moon 462 00:28:03.930 --> 00:28:06.170 and Goof On tried to make some money off of this. 463 00:28:07.450 --> 00:28:09.990 We just keep busting this story over and over and 464 00:28:10.049 --> 00:28:14.349 over again. But despicable, disgusting grifters who have no morals, 465 00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:17.990 no ethics, no conscience. They don't care as long as 466 00:28:18.029 --> 00:28:20.690 they get their money, man. And it just, you know, 467 00:28:20.779 --> 00:28:22.920 it burns me up sometimes. I'm like, what else are 468 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.660 these guys willing to do? They are scumbags. And by 469 00:28:26.700 --> 00:28:29.119 the way, I'm entitled to my opinion that they're scumbags. 470 00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:38.680 It's my opinion. This acting is so bad. 471 00:28:38.700 --> 00:28:41.119 Oh no! 472 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.859 And by the way, I know the exact dummy that 473 00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:49.329 Jonathan Reed, Rudder, whatever, used to make this fake alien. 474 00:28:50.190 --> 00:28:55.789 It's basically a foam mannequin with a wired frame inside 475 00:28:55.869 --> 00:28:56.809 so that it's poseable. 476 00:28:57.490 --> 00:28:58.009 Oh no! 477 00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:08.089 These are the panicked breaths of a man who just 478 00:29:08.150 --> 00:29:08.869 killed an alien. 479 00:29:10.230 --> 00:29:15.170 Allegedly, it's not an alien, you moron, Chris Ramsey. It's 480 00:29:15.269 --> 00:29:16.009 a mannequin. 481 00:29:17.970 --> 00:29:21.450 In October 1996, a man who goes by the name Dr. 482 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.680 Jonathan Reed Oh, at least he acknowledges that. He goes 483 00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:27.869 by that name, but that's not his real name. But 484 00:29:28.049 --> 00:29:30.890 I guess Chris Ramsey thinks that excuses him for lying 485 00:29:30.930 --> 00:29:33.230 to his audience and not bringing up that he uses 486 00:29:33.289 --> 00:29:36.250 a fake name. As well as a fake education. 487 00:29:40.390 --> 00:29:45.319 Creature according to reed this creature violently tears his companion 488 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.019 in half in front of his eyes. 489 00:29:47.700 --> 00:29:50.059 He teared a poor dog in half oh. 490 00:29:50.019 --> 00:29:54.700 Man blinded by rage reed grabs the nearest blunt object 491 00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:56.400 and with one swift blow. 492 00:29:56.410 --> 00:29:58.150 Did you know that he first said he hit him 493 00:29:58.190 --> 00:30:00.750 with a baseball bat, but then people started asking, why 494 00:30:00.769 --> 00:30:02.910 were you walking through the woods with a baseball bat? 495 00:30:02.950 --> 00:30:05.740 So he had to retcon the story, Chris Ramsey. And 496 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.619 I have, I have him on tape saying he hit 497 00:30:09.660 --> 00:30:13.079 it with a baseball bat first. Then he retconned the story. 498 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.109 The stick connects with the being's head. Both Reed and 499 00:30:18.130 --> 00:30:22.049 the supposed ET being collapse. What follows is a tale 500 00:30:22.069 --> 00:30:23.049 that involves discovery. 501 00:30:23.109 --> 00:30:25.839 And it just happens to be, by the way, This 502 00:30:25.980 --> 00:30:29.339 is 1996, right? So he just happens to be walking 503 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.059 through the woods with a full-size VHS camcorder. Do you 504 00:30:33.099 --> 00:30:38.140 know how big a full-size VHS camcorder is? That's what 505 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.849 he claimed that he was filming this stuff with, right? 506 00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:46.170 A full-size VHS camcorder. Do you know how big those 507 00:30:46.230 --> 00:30:50.710 things were back in the day? Not exactly comfortable. Not 508 00:30:50.769 --> 00:30:57.069 exactly comfortable to carry around with you. Here's one. Here's 509 00:30:57.309 --> 00:31:05.680 one on... Here's one... Oh, come on. This is how 510 00:31:05.779 --> 00:31:09.319 big the camcorder was. This is how big the camcorder 511 00:31:09.380 --> 00:31:11.970 was that he claimed to just be casually carrying around 512 00:31:12.009 --> 00:31:14.890 in the woods. You don't think that's a little suspicious, 513 00:31:15.569 --> 00:31:17.670 Chris Ramsey, that he just happened to be carrying a 514 00:31:17.730 --> 00:31:23.769 full-size VHS camcorder with him? Come on! Come on, Chris Ramsey, 515 00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:27.289 you're not this stupid. But good job playing along pretending, though. 516 00:31:28.029 --> 00:31:32.880 Covering alien technology, hiding a body, running from hitmen, and 517 00:31:32.940 --> 00:31:36.920 according to Reed, an ongoing communication with an alien race. 518 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.970 This is by far the most debated, contentious, and polarizing 519 00:31:42.009 --> 00:31:43.750 case in UFO history. 520 00:31:44.170 --> 00:31:47.950 No, it's not debated. Everybody knows it's a hoax, except you. 521 00:31:48.210 --> 00:31:51.289 Everybody's known it's a hoax for 20-plus years. You're just 522 00:31:51.349 --> 00:31:54.890 desperate for material, so

you're pulling out 20-year-old hoaxes and 523 00:31:54.930 --> 00:31:58.250 playing along with a scammy grifter fake doctor so you 524 00:31:58.269 --> 00:32:00.430 can make some money because you're a scumbag. 525 00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:03.890 Mention Reed's name to two researchers and you'll start a fight. 526 00:32:04.869 --> 00:32:08.390 Some claim the footage is objective evidence of E.T. 527 00:32:09.099 --> 00:32:13.519 By the way, that right there is the spaceship. Let's 528 00:32:13.539 --> 00:32:14.539 try to get back to that. 529 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.980 E.T. being collapsed. What follows is a tale that involves 530 00:32:19.029 --> 00:32:20.680 discovering alien technology. 531 00:32:21.369 --> 00:32:24.069 That is supposed to be the picture of the spaceship 532 00:32:24.170 --> 00:32:28.630 hovering in the woods. It uses a magic trick. And 533 00:32:28.650 --> 00:32:31.450 by the way, I feel like he has made this 534 00:32:33.470 --> 00:32:37.430 material even grainier than it was originally in 1996. He 535 00:32:37.490 --> 00:32:40.029 probably did that for a reason. Because when you get 536 00:32:40.049 --> 00:32:42.289 a good, clear image of this, it looks fake as shit. 537 00:32:43.410 --> 00:32:46.849 But that's supposed to be the alien spaceship It's being 538 00:32:46.890 --> 00:32:50.170 held up by something called a super X levitation that's 539 00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:54.039 directly behind it and hidden by some branches and trees. 540 00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.119 The device that is so-called floating the spaceship is hidden 541 00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:01.019 by some branches and trees. Chris Ramsey being a magician 542 00:33:01.059 --> 00:33:03.180 knows what a super X levitation is. And if he's 543 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.900 going to pretend that he doesn't, okay, then he's retarded. 544 00:33:06.309 --> 00:33:09.670 Hiding a body running from hit men. And according to 545 00:33:09.750 --> 00:33:14.150 read an ongoing communication with an alien race, this. 546 00:33:13.970 --> 00:33:17.210 Is always, he's running from hit men, right? Sure. 547 00:33:17.230 --> 00:33:18.890 This is by far the most debated. 548 00:33:19.930 --> 00:33:23.410 This is not debated. This is not contested. Everybody with 549 00:33:23.470 --> 00:33:27.349 even the most shallow knowledge of UFO land know that 550 00:33:27.369 --> 00:33:30.099 this story is completely fake. This guy's a fake doctor. 551 00:33:30.450 --> 00:33:32.579 He faked the whole thing. He was a big fan 552 00:33:32.619 --> 00:33:36.920 of X-Files. He's a fan of like movie special effects 553 00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:37.500 and stuff. 554 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:43.039 Intentious and polarizing case in UFO history. Mention Reed's name 555 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:44.819 to two researchers and you'll start a fight. 556 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.759 No, most of the time, two researchers will both say 557 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.559 that it's fake, in my experience anyway. I

don't know 558 00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:54.960 anybody except for grifters that will even pretend that this 559 00:33:54.980 --> 00:33:56.349 story is anything but fake. 560 00:33:57.130 --> 00:34:01.130 Some claim the footage is objective evidence of ET contact, 561 00:34:01.970 --> 00:34:04.690 while others believe it was all made up for attention. 562 00:34:06.190 --> 00:34:08.889 Gotta love he made a replica of the guy's fake 563 00:34:09.170 --> 00:34:13.849 alien armband, though. Every day, I wake up and I know. 564 00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:16.719 That there's 14 people who. 565 00:34:16.619 --> 00:34:20.010 Are dead because of me. Did he report any of 566 00:34:20.050 --> 00:34:23.230 those deaths? Wow, 14 people died because of him in 567 00:34:23.269 --> 00:34:27.150 this alien case. Sounds dramatic. Did you ask for police reports, 568 00:34:27.210 --> 00:34:30.880 Chris Ramsey? Did you ask for any proof whatsoever of 569 00:34:30.940 --> 00:34:34.510 his claims? This is totally ridiculous. We want to thank 570 00:34:34.550 --> 00:34:36.909 Stuckelberg's Dog for one for the gold. One for the 571 00:34:36.969 --> 00:34:40.380 gold and an overtime wackadoo. Let's hope that we get there, 572 00:34:40.429 --> 00:34:43.480 Stuckelberg's Dog. And thank you so much for your kindness, generosity, 573 00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:46.039 and big, big support of the show. Much, much appreciated. 574 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:49.980 And anime Chris. My dad had a camera like that. 575 00:34:50.059 --> 00:34:52.199 They were not something that you'd want to try carrying 576 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:55.130 around the woods on a whim. Exactly. That's why this 577 00:34:55.170 --> 00:34:58.329 whole story is completely and totally ridiculous. I had one 578 00:34:58.349 --> 00:35:02.329 of those cameras way back in the day. I got 579 00:35:02.369 --> 00:35:04.449 it from a neighbor. By the time I got it, 580 00:35:04.489 --> 00:35:07.230 it was probably five years old. But I set it 581 00:35:07.289 --> 00:35:09.030 up in a studio and used it on a blue 582 00:35:09.070 --> 00:35:13.320 screen a long, long time ago. And that's what really 583 00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.039 got me into video editing. I used to edit on 584 00:35:16.099 --> 00:35:20.280 two VCRs before digital was capable. But you are correct 585 00:35:20.340 --> 00:35:22.800 out of me, Chris. Those things were big, they were heavy, 586 00:35:22.980 --> 00:35:25.300 and they had a battery life of like 15 minutes. 587 00:35:26.059 --> 00:35:28.050 Not exactly something you want to haul around in the 588 00:35:28.090 --> 00:35:29.789 woods with you. And by the way, if he was 589 00:35:29.809 --> 00:35:31.650 just hiking in the woods, why would he take a 590 00:35:31.690 --> 00:35:34.730 full-size VHS camcorder with him, anime Chris? But thank you 591 00:35:34.750 --> 00:35:38.110 for your kindness, generosity, and big, big support of the show. 592 00:35:38.389 --> 00:35:40.380 I traveled to Seattle to sit down

with Reed for 593 00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:42.300 nearly three hours to find out for myself. 594 00:35:42.980 --> 00:35:45.960 Yeah, three hours you sat across from a fake doctor 595 00:35:46.019 --> 00:35:49.500 and pretended he was anything but what he was, which 596 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.840 is a fraud. And it's completely dishonest and completely disingenuous 597 00:35:53.900 --> 00:35:56.139 that you sat there for three hours and you didn't 598 00:35:56.179 --> 00:35:58.889 even bother to ask him why he lied about his 599 00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:02.369 real name, why he lied about his work history, why 600 00:36:02.429 --> 00:36:05.670 he lied about even ever going to college, why he 601 00:36:05.710 --> 00:36:10.170 lied about being a prominent child psychiatrist. You didn't even 602 00:36:10.250 --> 00:36:12.449 ask him. Three hours? You couldn't fit that in? 603 00:36:12.650 --> 00:36:15.250 See, there are definitely parts of the story that don't 604 00:36:15.289 --> 00:36:18.909 seem to add up. The claims are just too grandiose. 605 00:36:19.530 --> 00:36:21.489 Even his name is a pseudonym which he gave himself 606 00:36:21.550 --> 00:36:25.369 to allegedly protect his identity. Protected from what exactly? 607 00:36:25.510 --> 00:36:26.429 Protected from what? 608 00:36:26.550 --> 00:36:26.780 Yeah. 609 00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.719 Oh, well, at least he acknowledges that he faked his name. 610 00:36:30.179 --> 00:36:31.860 But are you going to acknowledge that he faked his 611 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:35.440 education and his work history and he faked being a psychiatrist? 612 00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:39.320 You know, he did that to give himself credibility. He's 613 00:36:39.340 --> 00:36:40.340 just some loser. 614 00:36:40.539 --> 00:36:42.019 From the people he claims. 615 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:42.840 He's not a doctor! 616 00:36:43.139 --> 00:36:46.219 That are after him or to protect his real identity, which... 617 00:36:46.929 --> 00:36:48.940 May or may not live up to the academic pedigree 618 00:36:48.980 --> 00:36:49.559 he's presented. 619 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.539 Oh, may or may not. No, it doesn't. 620 00:36:51.699 --> 00:36:52.099 It doesn't. 621 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.440 Ask him for the fucking degrees, you liar. It may 622 00:36:55.500 --> 00:36:58.059 or may not live up to the pedigree. May or 623 00:36:58.079 --> 00:36:58.659 may not. 624 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:00.280 Of course I'm skeptical. 625 00:37:00.889 --> 00:37:03.389 Yeah, he's so skeptical he didn't even bother to ask 626 00:37:03.429 --> 00:37:05.909 him why he lied about being a doctor. He's so 627 00:37:05.969 --> 00:37:08.389 skeptical he didn't bother to ask him why he lied 628 00:37:08.409 --> 00:37:12.130 about his work history or being a psychiatrist. He's really skeptical, guys. 629 00:37:12.469 --> 00:37:13.340 He's really skeptical. 630 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:17.090 Goes without saying. But what if even 1% of what 631 00:37:17.110 --> 00:37:18.630 he is alleging is true? 632 00:37:19.909 --> 00:37:20.110 What 1%? 633 00:37:20.110 --> 00:37:22.869 What if he did confront an alien in the woods? 634 00:37:23.889 --> 00:37:26.010 Is that not worth pursuing? 635 00:37:26.789 --> 00:37:30.070 And by the way, Dr. Jonathan Reed likes to run 636 00:37:30.150 --> 00:37:34.469 copyright claims on people that use this footage. You let 637 00:37:34.510 --> 00:37:36.809 this guy, so you have to let me. You have 638 00:37:36.829 --> 00:37:41.099 to equally enforce a copyright. So don't file fake copyright claims. 639 00:37:41.179 --> 00:37:43.900 I have lawyer letters standing by. This is fair use. 640 00:37:45.090 --> 00:37:47.809 And as always, I urge my viewers to simply suspend 641 00:37:47.849 --> 00:37:48.429 their disbelief. 642 00:37:48.769 --> 00:37:51.909 Yeah, just play along. Just suspend your disbelief. 643 00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:54.510 For the next few hours, look beyond the skeptical confines 644 00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:55.789 we've created for ourselves. 645 00:37:56.130 --> 00:38:00.670 Oh, it's a confine. There is the spaceship floating in 646 00:38:00.710 --> 00:38:04.619 the woods. It's being held up by a frame behind it. 647 00:38:04.750 --> 00:38:07.889 It's called a super X levitation. Look it up. It's 648 00:38:07.949 --> 00:38:11.070 a magic trick. And Chris Ramsey is a magician. He 649 00:38:11.110 --> 00:38:15.050 should be intimately familiar. Every magician knows what a Super 650 00:38:15.139 --> 00:38:18.019 X Levitation is. Why didn't he ask him about the 651 00:38:18.059 --> 00:38:21.380 Super X Levitation magic trick he used to fake his photos? 652 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:26.139 To fluctuate and see if anything lands. And I'll see 653 00:38:26.179 --> 00:38:29.400 you on the other side. Stay tuned to the end 654 00:38:29.460 --> 00:38:32.119 of the video for an Area 52 exclusive where Dr. 655 00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:34.179 Reed shares with us for the very first time. 656 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.800 Oh, he's got new bullshit now. It's probably a ring 657 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.699 he bought on eBay or Amazon. Anybody know where you 658 00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:45.349 can get a ring like that? This may turn into 659 00:38:45.389 --> 00:38:48.230 a David Wilcock, you know, the coins moment where we 660 00:38:48.250 --> 00:38:50.349 find out anybody can buy this on Amazon. 661 00:38:50.530 --> 00:38:53.550 Legitly made from the metal found at the site. 662 00:38:54.389 --> 00:38:56.820 Oh, he made a ring out of alien space metal. 663 00:38:56.860 --> 00:38:57.019 Good. 664 00:38:57.059 --> 00:39:00.500 Let's get it analyzed by a real scientist, Chris Ramsey. 665 00:39:02.900 --> 00:39:09.239 All right. We are here with Dr. Jonathan Reed. Just 666 00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:11.530 watched the documentary Contact in the Woods. 667 00:39:12.190 --> 00:39:14.929 Which is complete and total horseshit. It's a fluff piece. 668 00:39:15.409 --> 00:39:17.610 They don't go

into any of his fakery or fraud 669 00:39:17.630 --> 00:39:24.559 in it. I'm going to fast forward past that part 670 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:25.960 to prevent copyright claims. 671 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:35.489 Why now? Why come out now? What's the impetus for that? 672 00:39:36.349 --> 00:39:38.010 Well, let me go back a little bit. 673 00:39:38.030 --> 00:39:40.710 He needs money. And look at this guy. He's got 674 00:39:40.730 --> 00:39:45.119 a reverse Darkseid Phil job going on. Darkseid Phil just 675 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.739 ferments his hair, but he leaves his beard and his 676 00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:51.039 mustache go. This guy just vermins his mustache and he 677 00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.400 leaves his hair go gray. What's going on with that? 678 00:39:53.579 --> 00:39:55.239 Why don't you do both? I don't get it. 679 00:39:55.460 --> 00:40:03.099 Beginning. Way back in 1996, when I first came out publicly, 680 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:06.010 I did that with Art Bell. I didn't know what 681 00:40:06.030 --> 00:40:07.949 an Art Bell was at the time, but I learned 682 00:40:07.989 --> 00:40:11.809 very quickly who he was and what he did. And 683 00:40:11.869 --> 00:40:13.369 he had a very large audience. 684 00:40:13.670 --> 00:40:15.110 Yeah, he just let people talk. 685 00:40:15.110 --> 00:40:18.659 25 million, close to. And for way back then, I 686 00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:20.840 guess that was a very good number because that was 687 00:40:21.139 --> 00:40:24.400 previous to the Internet. It was right as the Internet 688 00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:28.760 was catching on. But I learned that he was very 689 00:40:30.380 --> 00:40:37.829 amicable and had a lot of, shall we say, background 690 00:40:37.889 --> 00:40:43.289 information on others that had similar situations. And so that 691 00:40:43.849 --> 00:40:48.829 he could empathize. He could give me... some solace to 692 00:40:48.869 --> 00:40:53.409 talk with him. And we actually became friends until his death, 693 00:40:55.050 --> 00:40:55.889 which is very interesting. 694 00:40:55.929 --> 00:40:59.789 Trying to endear himself to UFO believers by playing up 695 00:40:59.829 --> 00:41:04.139 the Art Bell angle. Boy, I don't know. I guess 696 00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:06.110 he green-screened this. 697 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:09.059 But what I wanted to say... Looks like he. 698 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.300 Just rented a conference room and put a backdrop up. 699 00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.739 I don't know. Big production, though. 700 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:18.449 Really. the background. is the first 10 years of this 701 00:41:18.550 --> 00:41:25.929 from 96 on, I talked to everybody. I did every podcast. 702 00:41:25.989 --> 00:41:28.739 In fact, they didn't call them podcasts then, but I 703 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.920 did all that kind of stuff. I even put myself 704 00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:34.340 on what I call the circus. 705 00:41:35.500 --> 00:41:38.860 Yeah, and he was a fixture at

UFO conventions for 706 00:41:38.900 --> 00:41:41.079 a long time, getting paid huge amounts of money to 707 00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:44.380 pretend that he's a real doctor. He's not. He's a fraud. 708 00:41:44.670 --> 00:41:47.670 You're out in the public, you go to the conferences, 709 00:41:48.250 --> 00:41:50.889 you know, and they poke and prod you and get 710 00:41:50.929 --> 00:41:52.409 you to do all these things. 711 00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:56.760 Here he is with Jaime Muson, the biggest hoax promoter 712 00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.039 in Mexico. That should inform you about how fake this 713 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.699 story is. If Jaime Muson is directly involved in promoting it, 714 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:10.079 then the story is fake, right? Jaime Muson's not out 715 00:42:10.099 --> 00:42:13.429 there promoting true stories. He's out there promoting hoaxes. That 716 00:42:13.570 --> 00:42:16.489 should be a big red flag to anybody who wonders 717 00:42:16.550 --> 00:42:19.929 about the authenticity of this guy's claims. And by the way, 718 00:42:20.469 --> 00:42:22.969 he went to Jaime Muson after he was busted in 719 00:42:22.989 --> 00:42:25.679 the United States and couldn't get work as a UFO 720 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:31.599 profiteering promoting hoaxer anymore. His story got completely obliterated shortly 721 00:42:31.739 --> 00:42:34.340 after he started making the circuit in the United States. 722 00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:38.889 So he went down to Mexico and to South America 723 00:42:39.510 --> 00:42:40.670 to continue the scam. 724 00:42:41.010 --> 00:42:43.949 I knew that that needed to be done. I knew, 725 00:42:44.130 --> 00:42:47.590 you know, to set the stage, so to speak. But 726 00:42:47.610 --> 00:42:50.110 I got very tired of it because I learned early 727 00:42:50.300 --> 00:42:53.159 on that a lot of the people that are involved 728 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:59.079 in those kind of arenas aren't there for the sincerity 729 00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:01.880 of the information. They're there to make a quick buck. 730 00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.039 Yeah, just like you and just like Chris Ramsey. Boy, 731 00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:07.659 talk pop, kettle black. 732 00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.429 Wow. Or they're there to draw the crowd to the circus, 733 00:43:13.230 --> 00:43:15.389 you know. And I didn't want to be part of 734 00:43:15.409 --> 00:43:17.710 that circus. I just didn't really get into that. 735 00:43:17.730 --> 00:43:18.929 No, he got banished from the circus. 736 00:43:18.949 --> 00:43:21.650 I was a medical doctor. You know, I wasn't just 737 00:43:21.690 --> 00:43:23.869 standing around, you know, waiting for a. 738 00:43:24.469 --> 00:43:27.300 He wasn't a medical doctor. He was never a medical doctor. 739 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:31.280 Show us your medical license. Show us your degrees. They're 740 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:31.820 all fake. 741 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:37.880 Place to talk. And I got tired really quickly of that. 742 00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.110 He didn't get tired. He got banished. Even Mexico and 743 00:43:42.150 --> 00:43:45.230 South America threw him out as a hoaxer eventually when 744 00:43:45.250 --> 00:43:47.789 some researchers down there got a hold of the information 745 00:43:47.809 --> 00:43:50.250 that the researchers in the United States had already discovered. 746 00:43:50.710 --> 00:43:55.550 Fake doctor, fake education. He faked the videos. He faked 747 00:43:55.570 --> 00:43:58.610 the photos. He's using magic tricks to float a spaceship. 748 00:43:59.289 --> 00:44:04.469 It all got, you know, sort of shared around, and 749 00:44:04.489 --> 00:44:07.489 then he lost his ability, right? And by the way, 750 00:44:07.650 --> 00:44:10.699 Chris Ramsey, did you know that this guy faked photographs 751 00:44:10.739 --> 00:44:14.480 of himself with popes? Did you know that? He faked 752 00:44:15.059 --> 00:44:19.820 photographs of himself with Photoshop with popes and made a 753 00:44:19.860 --> 00:44:24.260 lot of claims about stuff with popes. He never met 754 00:44:24.300 --> 00:44:27.300 the pope. He faked those photos. That should be another 755 00:44:27.389 --> 00:44:30.760 red flag to you. Luther the writer is here. Why 756 00:44:30.780 --> 00:44:33.199 does he look like he's wearing his dad's leather jacket? 757 00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:38.409 When is he also an old man? I think he 758 00:44:38.429 --> 00:44:40.510 was kind of an old man when he started this scam, 759 00:44:40.550 --> 00:44:43.090 Luther the writer, but we thank you for your kindness, generosity, 760 00:44:43.110 --> 00:44:45.309 and support. And just think, all you need to do 761 00:44:45.369 --> 00:44:48.130 is super chat me another $ 500 and I'll help you 762 00:44:48.170 --> 00:44:51.070 promote your new shitty book, right? Actually, I don't know 763 00:44:51.110 --> 00:44:54.489 if his new book is shitty. His last book is good. 764 00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:57.820 But this new book, he stole directly from me. He's 765 00:44:57.860 --> 00:45:00.769 calling it grifters and everything. That's kind of my term 766 00:45:00.809 --> 00:45:04.289 that I popularized Luther the writer. And I want some royalties, 767 00:45:04.769 --> 00:45:08.329 a little more than five. You got to 100x that 768 00:45:08.389 --> 00:45:10.730 super chat if you want me to shill the new book. 769 00:45:11.210 --> 00:45:17.579 But thank you, Luther the writer, for your kindness so far. $ 4. 95 770 00:45:15.099 --> 00:45:16.219 to go, Luther the writer. 771 00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:21.340 I went through all of the negatives that is associated 772 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:23.059 with that, and. 773 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.179 I Yeah, people being critical or skeptical is negative. 774 00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.110 It burns you out. It tires you out. And I 775 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:32.730 started to think, you know. 776 00:45:33.230 --> 00:45:34.989 And by the way, he's tried to pop back

up 777 00:45:35.070 --> 00:45:37.969 several times. A couple of years ago, he popped back up. 778 00:45:38.010 --> 00:45:41.550 We punched him back down. This guy is a typical 779 00:45:41.590 --> 00:45:45.150 example of UFO grifter whack-a-mole. Every once in a while, 780 00:45:45.190 --> 00:45:47.139 he pops back up and I got to come out 781 00:45:47.179 --> 00:45:49.320 and do another show on this clown and pop him 782 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:53.170 back down. And by the way, I will add our 783 00:45:53.230 --> 00:45:57.239 previous coverage of Dr. Jonathan Reed in the description of 784 00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.440 this video or podcast. So if you really want to 785 00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.219 take a deep dive into all of the debunks, you 786 00:46:02.260 --> 00:46:04.360 could go through all of them. He is a complete 787 00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:07.719 and total fraud. I've never been sure, well, except in 788 00:46:07.739 --> 00:46:10.030 the case maybe of Corey Goode, I've never been sure 789 00:46:10.110 --> 00:46:12.610 that someone is a fraud than in this case. 790 00:46:13.130 --> 00:46:18.889 What is this about? I mean, this event changed my 791 00:46:18.929 --> 00:46:23.760 life forever. But why aren't people recognizing that? Why aren't 792 00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:26.610 people seeing the reality to it? 793 00:46:27.159 --> 00:46:29.599 Because there is no reality to it. You're a fake 794 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.019 doctor with a fake education and a liar. 795 00:46:32.099 --> 00:46:35.489 And there were some. There were some who actually got 796 00:46:35.550 --> 00:46:37.750 on board and wanted me to talk to them and 797 00:46:38.510 --> 00:46:42.489 helped me. For instance, Wendell Stevens. 798 00:46:43.449 --> 00:46:48.429 Wendell Stevens is a convicted child predator who also promoted hoaxes. 799 00:46:49.309 --> 00:46:50.130 That's not a win. 800 00:46:50.820 --> 00:46:51.079 Right? 801 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:55.000 Oh, Wendell Stevens tried to help me with this case. Great. 802 00:46:56.860 --> 00:46:59.300 Eldrick Horror just chatted for the first time. Give us 803 00:46:59.340 --> 00:47:01.929 a follow, Eldrick Horror. Oh, he did follow the channel. 804 00:47:01.969 --> 00:47:04.130 Thank you for the follow. Big shout out and thank 805 00:47:04.150 --> 00:47:07.030 you to Eldrick Horror who followed our Kik channel. Kik.com 806 00:47:07.050 --> 00:47:09.969 forward slash True Seeker Show. And Winter Soldier threw a 807 00:47:09.969 --> 00:47:13.730 couple more pennies at me. Scrape up a dollar, Winter Soldier. 808 00:47:13.889 --> 00:47:19.409 At least scrape up a dollar. Bob Dean, uh, Bob Dean, 809 00:47:19.449 --> 00:47:22.590 another UFO scammer, grifter. But isn't it great? These are 810 00:47:22.630 --> 00:47:24.489 the people that helped him. A guy who spent time 811 00:47:24.550 --> 00:47:30.070 in prison for S.A.ing multiple underage children. Isn't it great? 812 00:47:30.219 --> 00:47:34.380 That's who's helping him. The guy who did federal or 813 00:47:34.460 --> 00:47:38.119 state prison time for being a child predator. That's who 814 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:42.519 helped him promote his story. Great. Great. A fake doctor 815 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:47.539 being promoted by a proven child predator. A convicted child predator. Great. 816 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:53.210 Don Ware. even John Mack, all got together at one 817 00:47:53.309 --> 00:47:58.190 point and with me, it was in Laughlin, Nevada, and said, 818 00:47:58.210 --> 00:48:03.610 we would like you to do a textbook case examination. 819 00:48:04.789 --> 00:48:06.849 And this is what we want. This is what we 820 00:48:06.889 --> 00:48:11.690 want to see. Because the crowd is getting little bits 821 00:48:11.769 --> 00:48:17.949 and pieces of this. But they wanted something more solid. 822 00:48:18.070 --> 00:48:21.320 And that made sense to me. So that's what we 823 00:48:21.340 --> 00:48:22.099 set out to do. 824 00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:23.920 Yeah, they were going to do a whole book on 825 00:48:23.940 --> 00:48:28.400 this until everybody parachuted out when his story came crashing down. 826 00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:34.000 So one of their people, Dan McAvoy Sr. from Delaware, 827 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:40.139 was a longtime MUFON associate. 828 00:48:40.179 --> 00:48:42.280 Yeah, and that'll tell you what a joke MUFON is. 829 00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.079 MUFON had this guy appear at their conferences. They didn't 830 00:48:45.099 --> 00:48:47.639 bother to check that he wasn't a real doctor. Great. 831 00:48:48.300 --> 00:48:57.090 Investigator. And part of the Jay Hynek part. And he 832 00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:58.920 was all involved with that. 833 00:48:58.940 --> 00:49:01.480 Does he give mustache rides? Yeah, I don't know. 834 00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.460 So they said, this will be our appointment. This is 835 00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.400 who's going to, you know, ride shotgun on you. 836 00:49:07.300 --> 00:49:09.650 And go out. Yeah, we did this four years ago. 837 00:49:09.690 --> 00:49:12.760 That's fine. As long as we. keep the dignity to 838 00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:14.159 the people we're talking with. 839 00:49:14.510 --> 00:49:16.030 I'm going to buy that one, Arlene. 840 00:49:16.070 --> 00:49:19.710 Because that already had happened early on with other people. 841 00:49:20.550 --> 00:49:23.590 So he set out to do this investigation. 842 00:49:23.630 --> 00:49:26.969 Just recently, won't say. He just posted it. I don't 843 00:49:27.010 --> 00:49:27.739 know when it was filmed. 844 00:49:28.010 --> 00:49:31.860 It took two years of him walking in my shoes. 845 00:49:32.340 --> 00:49:36.139 I mean, him hardly ever going home. I mean, literally 846 00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:41.030 sleeping where I slept. for months. So he got to 847 00:49:41.130 --> 00:49:45.070 see a lot of the things that nobody does see. 848 00:49:45.329 --> 00:49:47.769 He got to see the coming and going of Freddy, 849

00:49:48.170 --> 00:49:50.170 the alien. He got to see. 850 00:49:50.570 --> 00:49:52.800 Oh, that guy saw the alien. It must be true then. 851 00:49:52.820 --> 00:49:57.019 The use of the artifact on my arm, sitting this 852 00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.599 close to each other with four other people in the room, 853 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.300 two other people in the room, excuse me. 854 00:50:02.420 --> 00:50:03.280 Who were those people? 855 00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:06.000 They were. 856 00:50:09.070 --> 00:50:11.070 Oh, I don't remember who those people were. 857 00:50:11.530 --> 00:50:16.650 Appointed guardians of the device that I appointed. 858 00:50:16.949 --> 00:50:17.289 I see. 859 00:50:17.750 --> 00:50:19.969 They were ex-military. 860 00:50:19.989 --> 00:50:23.110 Oh, sounds dramatic. He got some Navy SEALs to help 861 00:50:23.179 --> 00:50:25.159 him with the alien teleportation device. 862 00:50:25.179 --> 00:50:30.800 Like Green Beret type. Dan McAvoy is a Green Beret. 863 00:50:31.860 --> 00:50:37.039 Also paratrooper, close, small arms, all kinds of things. But 864 00:50:38.070 --> 00:50:41.710 I had to trust them with keeping this thing safe 865 00:50:41.829 --> 00:50:46.230 because early on where I was staying was just ransacked. 866 00:50:46.510 --> 00:50:49.170 You know, people would come in and just destroy the place. 867 00:50:49.590 --> 00:50:51.170 Like 10 minutes after I left. 868 00:50:51.469 --> 00:50:54.909 You've got police reports of all those break-ins at your 869 00:50:54.949 --> 00:50:57.710 home that we could see the police reports, right? Chris Ramsey, 870 00:50:57.750 --> 00:50:59.630 why didn't you ask him where the police reports are 871 00:50:59.670 --> 00:51:02.530 of the break-ins at his home? If they were constant, 872 00:51:02.809 --> 00:51:04.630 what you call the police, if somebody was breaking in 873 00:51:04.650 --> 00:51:08.639 your home and trashing your house? Apparently not. Not if 874 00:51:08.659 --> 00:51:09.340 you're a grifter. 875 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.059 And at the time we were living in, you know, 876 00:51:14.219 --> 00:51:19.780 old buildings, old businesses that were kind of derelict. But anyway, 877 00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:20.199 we could. 878 00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:23.500 What's a doctor doing living in an old abandoned building? 879 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.739 What's a real doctor? He said he was a medical doctor. 880 00:51:26.780 --> 00:51:29.389 What's a medical doctor doing living in an abandoned building? 881 00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:33.329 Could go to be safe where we could rig up 882 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:37.880 electricity and some telephone lines and stuff. I mean, most 883 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:41.119 of it was illegal, but that was how we had 884 00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:41.599 to do it. 885 00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:43.639 And how you still kind of. 886 00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:46.599 So he's a criminal in addition to everything else. 887 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:47.599 Great. 888 00:51:48.460 --> 00:51:54.900 Just great. Let's continue. 889 00:51:54.940 --> 00:51:57.820 I still do it, right? I mean, I've got some 890 00:51:57.860 --> 00:52:01.780 guys who are so into technology. I mean, I can 891 00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:04.889 barely do an email, but These guys have been hired 892 00:52:04.949 --> 00:52:05.650 by the FBI. 893 00:52:05.710 --> 00:52:08.389 A doctor that can't do an email, a college educated 894 00:52:08.429 --> 00:52:10.769 man that could barely do an email. But he's got 895 00:52:10.809 --> 00:52:13.389 people that work for the FBI that are now working 896 00:52:13.449 --> 00:52:16.500 for him. Can we see the W-2s? Chris, why didn't 897 00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:18.500 he ask him to see the employment records of the 898 00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.920 security people that he's hired and all this stuff? This 899 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:25.769 is all just fluff. It's all just. Window dressing on 900 00:52:25.809 --> 00:52:28.809 a fake story to make it more dramatic and more believable. 901 00:52:28.989 --> 00:52:30.789 I and CIA to work on. 902 00:52:30.949 --> 00:52:32.550 Oh, they work for the CIA, right? 903 00:52:32.570 --> 00:52:37.119 Their intelligence stuff. And they've donated their time to me. 904 00:52:37.179 --> 00:52:38.500 Oh, they've donated their time. 905 00:52:38.539 --> 00:52:40.599 For over 20 years. 906 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.380 20 year people. Can you name the people that were 907 00:52:43.420 --> 00:52:46.199 former CIA agents that are doing this? Of course not. 908 00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:46.639 Well. 909 00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:51.079 And won't take any money. So, I mean. 910 00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:52.019 You trust these people? 911 00:52:52.500 --> 00:52:53.099 With my life. 912 00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:54.400 Probably because the money's right up. 913 00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:58.340 And they've proved it. They've stood in front of bullets 914 00:52:58.460 --> 00:53:00.920 and cars and everything else. Oh, yeah. 915 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.699 By the way, according to Dr. Jonathan Reed, a bunch 916 00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:06.440 of people tried to kill him and killed a bunch 917 00:53:06.460 --> 00:53:10.019 of people on his team and things like that. Where's 918 00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:13.880 the police reports? People were almost murdered. Shouldn't there be 919 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:14.860 some police reports? 920 00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:18.980 It pushed me out of the way. 921 00:53:19.519 --> 00:53:21.010 How many times have you been? 14 people. 922 00:53:22.980 --> 00:53:30.030 Since I became public, are dead. Great. 923 00:53:30.050 --> 00:53:31.329 Can we see the police reports? 924 00:53:31.630 --> 00:53:37.400 They protected me because they chose to be with me. 925 00:53:37.420 --> 00:53:41.079 Now, come on. This is too much. 14 people died 926 00:53:41.179 --> 00:53:44.090 protecting this guy while he's out there telling alien stories 927 00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:47.710

and Chris Ramsey. You should ask for police reports. You 928 00:53:47.730 --> 00:53:49.130 should ask for death certificates. 929 00:53:49.489 --> 00:53:51.030 And you can ask any of my team. 930 00:53:51.170 --> 00:53:53.760 Should be 14 murdered people. So there should be 14 931 00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.159 murder cases that he could give us all the records for. 932 00:53:56.260 --> 00:54:00.019 Members, you know, I mean, it's true. And I wear 933 00:54:00.059 --> 00:54:03.179 that every day. I have to I have to realize that. 934 00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:04.159 That's a lot of people. 935 00:54:04.179 --> 00:54:06.369 Come on, man. These people gave their life up to me. 936 00:54:06.389 --> 00:54:08.329 Yes, it's all in his head. 937 00:54:08.349 --> 00:54:12.760 I can't ever. you know, get past that. I mean, 938 00:54:12.780 --> 00:54:13.570 that's just something that's a reality. 939 00:54:13.590 --> 00:54:15.170 Greer's murder people story was first. 940 00:54:15.210 --> 00:54:18.809 I mean, my parents were intimidated. My elderly parents so 941 00:54:18.849 --> 00:54:22.289 bad that they died within a couple of months of 942 00:54:22.530 --> 00:54:24.750 each other. And I know it was because of this. 943 00:54:24.949 --> 00:54:25.750 From stress. 944 00:54:25.809 --> 00:54:26.210 Yeah. 945 00:54:26.630 --> 00:54:26.929 Yeah. 946 00:54:27.389 --> 00:54:32.289 I mean, unbelievable stress. I mean, not everything from calling 947 00:54:32.329 --> 00:54:33.849 on the phone night and day, 24 hours a day 948 00:54:33.869 --> 00:54:34.710 to burning episodes in their lawn. 949 00:54:34.730 --> 00:54:37.610 He's running old episodes of Magnum P.I., the alien episode. 950 00:54:37.630 --> 00:54:39.119 And these people were in their late 70s. 951 00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:42.570 Well um. 952 00:54:43.969 --> 00:54:46.030 I i can't stress. 953 00:54:45.690 --> 00:54:48.070 Enough the alien in a freezer i don't even. 954 00:54:47.869 --> 00:54:51.309 Like to talk about it yeah how. 955 00:54:52.409 --> 00:54:55.280 Yeah what happened to the alien teleporting device that only 956 00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:58.340 lets mexican people see it on mexican tv that was 957 00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.500 never on mexican tv by the way. 958 00:55:00.219 --> 00:55:04.159 Do anything like this to people i mean i i 959 00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:05.909 thought This just doesn't happen. 960 00:55:05.969 --> 00:55:09.190 He's a fake doctor. He claims 14 people got murdered. 961 00:55:09.250 --> 00:55:12.210 But it does and is, and it has gone on 962 00:55:12.309 --> 00:55:14.909 for more than 25 years. 963 00:55:15.289 --> 00:55:16.329 It's not something you asked for. 964 00:55:17.030 --> 00:55:17.250 No. 965 00:55:17.710 --> 00:55:18.800 And that's something you deserve. 966 00:55:18.969 --> 00:55:23.480 And I've tried my best. I tried my best to, 967 00:55:25.059 --> 00:55:31.860 to not put myself in harm's way to eliminate everything 968 00:55:31.940 --> 00:55:34.760 I could.

But I'm like a mole. I mean, I 969 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:37.420 live a nomadic life. I don't have a home. I 970 00:55:37.460 --> 00:55:38.980 don't have an address. 971 00:55:39.019 --> 00:55:39.840 So you're homeless. 972 00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:43.400 I mean, they've gone through everything I have even saved 973 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:50.000 time after time after time. And, you know, death is death. 974 00:55:50.019 --> 00:55:50.920 So he's a homeless doctor? 975 00:55:50.940 --> 00:55:55.239 It's a real thing. It's not artificial. And people get 976 00:55:55.320 --> 00:56:00.199 hurt very seriously, if not dead. You know, I've been 977 00:56:01.969 --> 00:56:04.260 You know, I've been shot three separate times. I've been 978 00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:08.900 beat up probably eight times, taken out. Yeah. 979 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.559 And by the way, these were all sort of analyzed 980 00:56:11.619 --> 00:56:15.940 to be like baked photos. Where is the medical records? 981 00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:19.469 If you were shot, even if you're a doctor yourself, 982 00:56:19.550 --> 00:56:23.130 wouldn't you go to a hospital and seek, you know, 983 00:56:24.090 --> 00:56:27.130 medical attention? Somebody shot you with a nine millimeter gun. 984 00:56:27.329 --> 00:56:30.670 You don't go to the hospital, right? He looks like 985 00:56:30.690 --> 00:56:35.619 a fake doctor. Something but wouldn't have guessed fake doctor. Unconvincing. 986 00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:40.519 That is correct. Demonstrate the bracelet on either Sobrato or 987 00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:43.960 Deontay as a kid. They were Spanish talk shows and 988 00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.730 game shows. It was cringe even as a kid. Yes. 989 00:56:47.789 --> 00:56:49.590 You're telling me not a single one of them is 990 00:56:49.650 --> 00:56:51.690 in the obituary? He didn't at least put up a 991 00:56:51.750 --> 00:56:54.929 headstone for him? For dying for him? He's not a 992 00:56:54.949 --> 00:56:59.280 very good friend. Yeah. The whole story. Come on. 14 993 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.780 people got murdered protecting him. He's gotten shot. There would 994 00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:06.360 be a mountain of paperwork behind all this if any 995 00:57:06.380 --> 00:57:08.300 of this were true, Chris Ramsey. 996 00:57:09.539 --> 00:57:13.480 Beat unconscious, filled full of heroin, and thrown out on 997 00:57:13.500 --> 00:57:16.239 the road. And I asked the question. 998 00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:19.280 They filled him through full of heroin? Sounds like a 999 00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:20.280 fun night, right? 1000 00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:20.619 Right. 1001 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:22.469 Except for getting the shit beat out of you. 1002 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:25.630 Why does it have to be negative? Why can't it 1003 00:57:25.690 --> 00:57:30.599 be positive? And that's the question I've continued to ask. 1004 00:57:30.780 --> 00:57:33.420 Why does this information have to be hidden? 1005 00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:38.719 And again, here is the fake spaceship floating in the woods. Why? 1006 00:57:38.739 --> 00:57:42.320 A lot of different versions of those photos floating around. 1007 00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:43.639 All of them faked. 1008 00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:48.440 Well, they are now. But I have my own views 1009 00:57:48.860 --> 00:57:52.860 on that, which are very different. It's a drip, drip, 1010 00:57:52.900 --> 00:57:57.079 drip situation. It's all being controlled. And you'll never have 1011 00:57:57.219 --> 00:57:58.139 full disclosure. 1012 00:57:58.159 --> 00:57:58.820 No, I agree with you. 1013 00:57:58.840 --> 00:57:59.300 Like this. 1014 00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:00.199 Not like this. 1015 00:58:00.300 --> 00:58:00.579 Yeah. 1016 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:02.909 Golden Times again sent 10 kicks. 1017 00:58:03.510 --> 00:58:04.989 You know, I do believe that the. 1018 00:58:04.949 --> 00:58:07.610 People who are releasing this type of information, like they 1019 00:58:07.630 --> 00:58:08.829 believe they're doing a good thing. 1020 00:58:09.469 --> 00:58:10.289 I do believe. 1021 00:58:10.070 --> 00:58:11.829 Like they have good intentions. 1022 00:58:11.909 --> 00:58:15.210 I just think that they're being strung along by some 1023 00:58:15.250 --> 00:58:18.269 other person. And it keeps going on until you get. 1024 00:58:18.030 --> 00:58:20.809 To the truth. I would agree with you. What I 1025 00:58:20.869 --> 00:58:24.800 know is, I mean, before any of this happened, you 1026 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.210 would say, oh, well, Jonathan's a skeptic. 1027 00:58:27.250 --> 00:58:28.650 After they beat the shit out of him, they gave 1028 00:58:28.710 --> 00:58:29.119 him some H. 1029 00:58:29.269 --> 00:58:32.150 And I was. I didn't. But I'll tell you, in 1030 00:58:32.150 --> 00:58:38.570 30 years, I've learned everything I could learn about other cases, 1031 00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:41.000 about other situations, other people. 1032 00:58:41.179 --> 00:58:43.420 Gay and technic. I didn't know about that. 1033 00:58:43.539 --> 00:58:46.000 A lot of this is going on. My own question is, why? 1034 00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:48.119 Why does it have to be negative? 1035 00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:49.760 Such a victim. He carries his own body chalk. 1036 00:58:49.780 --> 00:58:53.719 Because I would think in science, as I was a scientist, 1037 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.099 more or less, Now he's. 1038 00:58:56.099 --> 00:58:57.760 A scientist, right? He's a scientist, more or less. 1039 00:58:57.780 --> 00:58:59.070 What's your best guess as to why they don't want 1040 00:58:59.090 --> 00:58:59.610 to share that? 1041 00:58:59.619 --> 00:59:00.469 What's your best hypothesis? 1042 00:59:10.590 --> 00:59:13.519 On that? If you had to. 1043 00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:20.360 Well, I know something that I've never talked about. And 1044 00:59:22.219 --> 00:59:26.480 I will talk about it today. Disclosure is never going 1045 00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:29.099 to happen like

you and I would like it to. 1046 00:59:30.869 --> 00:59:35.530 And there's a broad amount of reasons, but the number 1047 00:59:35.650 --> 00:59:39.110 one is control. It's all about control. You have to 1048 00:59:39.170 --> 00:59:43.110 control the populace. If you lose control of the populace, 1049 00:59:43.210 --> 00:59:47.710 you've lost. And the government sees it that way in 1050 00:59:47.789 --> 00:59:49.409 every shape or form. 1051 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:53.750 Yeah, blame the government for why your story doesn't get 1052 00:59:53.809 --> 00:59:54.849 more money, right? 1053 00:59:55.150 --> 00:59:59.030 But there's a side to this that I've learned because 1054 00:59:59.070 --> 01:00:02.690 of my involvement with this little alien I met that 1055 01:00:02.730 --> 01:00:03.530 I call Freddy. 1056 01:00:04.389 --> 01:00:04.940 Oh, it's Freddy. 1057 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:10.800 I've had conversations with him about probably everything you could 1058 01:00:10.860 --> 01:00:19.349 imagine for ongoing 30 years. He has told me things 1059 01:00:19.409 --> 01:00:27.400 that I'm not even sure how to address, how to understand, 1060 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:33.159 because a lot of it is very fragmented. And I've 1061 01:00:33.179 --> 01:00:36.920 tried to ask the questions, what does that mean? How 1062 01:00:36.940 --> 01:00:41.110 does that apply to me, to you, to our society? 1063 01:00:41.750 --> 01:00:46.429 And it's hard to get a perfect answer on that. 1064 01:00:47.780 --> 01:00:50.219 But if somebody said, like you had, do I have 1065 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.679 an idea? I do have an idea that I've never 1066 01:00:53.760 --> 01:01:01.159 talked about. And what that is, is that there are 1067 01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:05.030 things that we don't understand. We humans. 1068 01:01:05.409 --> 01:01:07.840 Oh, you've got to get real philosophical while you're selling 1069 01:01:07.889 --> 01:01:08.260 the hoax. 1070 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:12.989 Do not understand. Because we only know what we've been able. 1071 01:01:13.090 --> 01:01:15.050 We're going to skip ahead to where he starts talking 1072 01:01:15.070 --> 01:01:15.949 about the aliens. 1073 01:01:20.460 --> 01:01:21.480 And blood samples. 1074 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:22.860 Oh, yeah. 1075 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:24.940 Here he says he took all these samples. Can we 1076 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:25.719 see the samples? 1077 01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:29.219 At a little time. Not all at once. 1078 01:01:29.380 --> 01:01:32.860 What do you surmise is the sort of end goal 1079 01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:35.699 to that? Do they want us to be like them? 1080 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.750 What do you think about that? 1081 01:01:39.210 --> 01:01:44.570 I believe that it's a twofold situation. And the first 1082 01:01:44.730 --> 01:01:49.590 one I would reference is they want to continue their life. 1083 01:01:50.570 --> 01:01:54.369 They don't want to have their race extinguished. Part of 1084 01:01:54.469 --> 01:01:58.090 doing this is blending their DNA with ours. 1085 01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:00.980 Like hybridization? 1086 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:01.519 Yes. 1087 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.659 Living here? Among us? Living everywhere. 1088 01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:05.380 Wow. 1089 01:02:06.179 --> 01:02:10.590 Now, other details that you don't know, Freddie is a hybrid. 1090 01:02:11.929 --> 01:02:12.590 He's a hybrid? 1091 01:02:12.630 --> 01:02:18.849 Yes. Now, I had the fortunate or unfortunate ability, when 1092 01:02:18.889 --> 01:02:23.219 I thought he was dead, I took tissue samples and 1093 01:02:23.360 --> 01:02:23.619 blood samples. 1094 01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:25.340 Yeah, by the way, he put the alien in his 1095 01:02:25.400 --> 01:02:27.139 freezer and then it came back to life. 1096 01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:32.929 Samples and brain cell samples and bone samples of him. 1097 01:02:33.750 --> 01:02:35.750 Because he had a hole in his head that big. Yeah. 1098 01:02:36.309 --> 01:02:39.989 That I, you know, put in his head. And. 1099 01:02:41.210 --> 01:02:42.449 Wow, what great evidence. 1100 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.829 I took that. to somebody at the University of Washington 1101 01:02:46.849 --> 01:02:49.590 Medical Center who was the head pathologist. 1102 01:02:49.989 --> 01:02:52.250 And by the way, this is all completely and totally fake. 1103 01:02:52.289 --> 01:02:55.000 The University of Washington never heard of this guy. 1104 01:02:55.059 --> 01:02:59.199 Somebody I knew that I had associated with, just a friend. 1105 01:03:00.099 --> 01:03:02.079 And I said, I've got this stuff and I want 1106 01:03:02.099 --> 01:03:04.179 to know what it is. Well, where did you find it? 1107 01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:07.079 I found it in the woods and I don't know 1108 01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:10.570 what it is. And that's all I told him. And 1109 01:03:10.610 --> 01:03:12.670 he knew I was a straight shooter. 1110 01:03:12.349 --> 01:03:14.980 And Yeah, he knew you were a fake doctor. 1111 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.940 He said, okay, I'll tell you whatever I find. And 1112 01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:23.050 in those days, DNA extraction and analysis took about a 1113 01:03:23.090 --> 01:03:28.889 week because it wasn't computerized at all. It was hands-on chemistry. 1114 01:03:29.849 --> 01:03:33.369 And so that's what he did. And he called me 1115 01:03:33.849 --> 01:03:36.110 about a week later and said, Jonathan, I need to 1116 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.420 talk to you. Come in, if you can, to the office. 1117 01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:43.969 Why doesn't he name this University of Washington- professor or doctor. 1118 01:03:44.349 --> 01:03:45.210 Made my way in. 1119 01:03:45.750 --> 01:03:48.110 Because then we'd be able to call and verify that 1120 01:03:48.150 --> 01:03:52.349 this entire part of the story is completely and totally manufactured, fake, 1121 01:03:52.349 --> 01:03:54.130 100% bullshit. 1122 01:03:55.389 --> 01:04:00.659

And he said, where did you get this? And I said, well, 1123 01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.199 I told you, I found it in the woods. And 1124 01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:06.539 he said, well, I'm going to tell you what I found. 1125 01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:10.179 And then I need to know if I can publish this. 1126 01:04:11.659 --> 01:04:14.380 And nobody ever published anything about this in a real 1127 01:04:14.420 --> 01:04:15.320 scientific journal. 1128 01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.820 And I said, okay. And he says, well, first of all, 1129 01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.579 I found 46 chromosomes, same as you and I have. 1130 01:04:25.579 --> 01:04:29.599 Same as humans have, 46 chromosomes. But he said nine 1131 01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:32.480 pair of them were not human. 1132 01:04:34.019 --> 01:04:36.539 How did he know what they were if they weren't human? 1133 01:04:36.579 --> 01:04:38.139 Couldn't they be animals? 1134 01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:43.420 I could only reference them. in close proximity to dolphin 1135 01:04:44.300 --> 01:04:45.199 and sea tortoise. 1136 01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:50.250 Oh, the aliens parked dolphin. That explains everything. 1137 01:04:50.269 --> 01:04:51.949 That's the closest I could find. 1138 01:04:52.110 --> 01:04:53.170 Nothing you'd find in the woods. 1139 01:04:55.789 --> 01:05:00.710 And then he said, you know, Jonathan, we humans don't 1140 01:05:00.750 --> 01:05:05.739 have the ability to blend DNA. We don't have that ability. 1141 01:05:06.889 --> 01:05:08.079 Well, we certainly do now. 1142 01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:11.909 Now remember, this was back In 96. 1143 01:05:11.909 --> 01:05:14.340 They had it even back in 96. 1144 01:05:14.340 --> 01:05:17.719 And only since have we recently come up with something 1145 01:05:17.780 --> 01:05:19.119 called CRISPR. 1146 01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:23.139 Yeah, this is amateur hour mistake. They were splicing human 1147 01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:26.639 stuff into pigs and vice versa in 96, I believe. 1148 01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:27.679 I could be mistaken. 1149 01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:30.980 A few other things. But that still doesn't blend it. 1150 01:05:31.659 --> 01:05:34.679 That just identifies it and lets them move some things. 1151 01:05:35.579 --> 01:05:36.739 But it doesn't blend. 1152 01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:38.170 Undress just following our channel. 1153 01:05:38.190 --> 01:05:39.210 Create a complete milkshake. 1154 01:05:39.739 --> 01:05:42.510 So what happened to this scientist, this doctor, that had 1155 01:05:42.530 --> 01:05:48.730 these results? Well, he said, here's all the paperwork. This 1156 01:05:48.809 --> 01:05:51.510 is what I've done. 1157 01:05:51.550 --> 01:05:53.510 I want to run this test again. I want to 1158 01:05:53.550 --> 01:05:55.750 run some of the, I still have some of the samples. 1159 01:05:56.369 --> 01:05:58.309 And he said, I want to run it again. But 1160 01:05:58.329 --> 01:06:02.469 I'd like to publish this because it's a new species. 1161 01:06:03.150 --> 01:06:07.949 It's brand new. And this guy was really accredited. I mean, 1162 01:06:08.010 --> 01:06:14.010 he was, he had his, due diligence as a real. 1163 01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:15.809 Great, let's interview him about this. 1164 01:06:16.550 --> 01:06:16.789 Sir. 1165 01:06:17.489 --> 01:06:20.170 He won't tell us who that guy is because he 1166 01:06:20.230 --> 01:06:21.650 comes from the land of make-believe. 1167 01:06:21.829 --> 01:06:22.710 Is professional. 1168 01:06:22.769 --> 01:06:24.650 Would you be willing to give up his name? 1169 01:06:24.670 --> 01:06:29.869 Yeah. But I will tell you first that three days 1170 01:06:30.110 --> 01:06:32.769 after I met with him and he gave me this stuff, 1171 01:06:33.590 --> 01:06:36.150 somebody came into his office and shot him in the 1172 01:06:36.190 --> 01:06:39.940 head and killed him. And then the person killed himself. 1173 01:06:42.809 --> 01:06:45.869 Going to call bullshit on this one. 1174 01:06:45.889 --> 01:06:49.889 Then 10 minutes, this was coming from his secretary, a 1175 01:06:50.570 --> 01:06:55.199 whole bunch of men came in that were like military 1176 01:06:55.880 --> 01:06:59.780 and confiscated all his files, his paper files, all his 1177 01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:03.420 computers and everything and said, you know, this is part 1178 01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:07.539 of the investigation. Well, then 15 minutes later, the police arrived. 1179 01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:14.539 These guys got there before the police. They took everything 1180 01:07:14.619 --> 01:07:17.599 out of his home also. They just broke into his 1181 01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:23.099 home and took his wife's computers, his computer, everything. This 1182 01:07:23.139 --> 01:07:30.809 guy's name is Roger Haggett, H-A-G-G-E-T-T, M-D. You can find 1183 01:07:30.829 --> 01:07:35.230 all of the information that the newspapers printed about his death. 1184 01:07:36.110 --> 01:07:38.869 Oh, look at that. So somebody did kill a guy 1185 01:07:38.909 --> 01:07:42.210 at the University of Washington. But I'll go out on 1186 01:07:42.230 --> 01:07:44.659 a limb and say that he found this and just 1187 01:07:44.699 --> 01:07:45.820 worked it into his story. 1188 01:07:45.900 --> 01:07:48.199 King at the University of Washington. I mean, he worked 1189 01:07:48.260 --> 01:07:49.940 three floors below where I worked. 1190 01:07:51.179 --> 01:07:54.320 Except Jonathan Reed never worked at the University of Washington. 1191 01:07:54.340 --> 01:07:55.679 And we know that to be a fact. 1192 01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:00.780 So they killed him and they took everything. And then 1193 01:08:00.820 --> 01:08:04.650 they started intimidating and or killing people. other people who 1194 01:08:04.730 --> 01:08:08.670 worked in his lab that helped to do this analysis. 1195 01:08:10.010 --> 01:08:13.809 There's only one of them left. And he's left the country. 1196 01:08:16.270 --> 01:08:19.109 By the way, that guy was killed in

the year 2000. 1197 01:08:19.100 --> 01:08:21.960 He waited on those samples for four years before he 1198 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:25.159 tried to get them analyzed. Sounds fishy to me. 1199 01:08:25.180 --> 01:08:28.760 You know, doesn't want to be harassed at all. And 1200 01:08:28.779 --> 01:08:32.300 I don't blame him. This is how far this has gone. 1201 01:08:32.460 --> 01:08:35.140 This is how serious this has gone. 1202 01:08:35.180 --> 01:08:37.340 He was a gastrointestinal pathologist. 1203 01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:40.539 Well, it was right around 2000. So you'd. 1204 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:47.590 Been holding on to the DNA for several years at 1205 01:08:47.770 --> 01:08:48.250 that point. 1206 01:08:48.329 --> 01:08:48.750 Frozen. 1207 01:08:49.250 --> 01:08:49.670 Frozen. 1208 01:08:49.789 --> 01:08:54.050 Yeah. I still have some things in hiding. 1209 01:08:54.630 --> 01:08:55.050 DNA? 1210 01:08:56.510 --> 01:08:58.170 I still have some things in hiding. 1211 01:08:58.489 --> 01:08:59.909 Great. Let's get them analyzed. 1212 01:09:01.100 --> 01:09:05.420 And just like now just like talking to you about 1213 01:09:05.500 --> 01:09:09.479 some of this yeah some of it needs to be. 1214 01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:11.840 Known chris bledsoe style. 1215 01:09:11.500 --> 01:09:17.989 I believe the reason disclosure is happening. 1216 01:09:17.489 --> 01:09:21.000 Season one finale yeah it's an x-files episode because. 1217 01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:24.020 They were pushed to the brink not because they want 1218 01:09:24.100 --> 01:09:25.520 to disclose. 1219 01:09:25.260 --> 01:09:27.340 Forcing their hand they're still. 1220 01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:31.390 Only giving us little tiny bits and pieces i mean 1221 01:09:32.350 --> 01:09:35.930 video from the front end of a jet fighter there's 1222 01:09:35.989 --> 01:09:39.819 a Spot a white light. You know, I mean, I 1223 01:09:39.859 --> 01:09:42.640 believe them. I agree with them. I know what they're 1224 01:09:42.699 --> 01:09:43.300 trying to do. 1225 01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:47.779 He's mentioning the Holloman Air Force landing hoax. That's interesting. 1226 01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:51.770 We want to thank for Bushman just followed the channel 1227 01:09:52.310 --> 01:09:54.210 on kick. Follow us on kick. I'll give you a 1228 01:09:54.210 --> 01:09:56.270 big shout out and thank you like a big shout 1229 01:09:56.329 --> 01:09:59.829 out and thank you to for Bushman and Undress who 1230 01:09:59.850 --> 01:10:03.109 just followed the kick channel kick.com forward slash truth seeker show. 1231 01:10:03.770 --> 01:10:06.800 And we want to thank Rustin Rourke for a big, 1232 01:10:06.960 --> 01:10:11.539 big donation of 10 gifted Truthseekers memberships. And this will 1233 01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:14.859 allow me to do the pitch. Smash the subscribe button here, friends, 1234 01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:18.180 because you could win a free gifted membership. 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Rustin work 1244 01:10:44.869 --> 01:10:48.409 has been the MVP of gifting these memberships lately and 1245 01:10:48.430 --> 01:10:53.189 a big, uh, big dono bomb dropper. Uh, and we 1246 01:10:53.229 --> 01:10:56.050 thank Rustin work for his kindness, generosity, and support who 1247 01:10:56.090 --> 01:10:59.890 has offered to help us to, uh, improved many things 1248 01:10:59.949 --> 01:11:03.890 here at Truthseekers due to his kindness, generosity, and support. 1249 01:11:03.930 --> 01:11:06.649 And we certainly appreciate that, Russ and Ruth. And thanks 1250 01:11:06.689 --> 01:11:11.300 for appreciating us. So maybe we should get, there's so much, 1251 01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:15.979 this debunk is so thorough. It's going to take forever 1252 01:11:16.020 --> 01:11:17.819 to get through it. But I feel like we should 1253 01:11:18.460 --> 01:11:21.699 try to do it. So he's not Dr. Jonathan Reed. 1254 01:11:21.779 --> 01:11:27.710 He's Jonathan Rudder. And this is from UFO Watch Dogs. 1255 01:11:28.319 --> 01:11:32.260 Classic UFO Watchdog article by Royce Myers III, who is 1256 01:11:32.300 --> 01:11:36.039 a great researcher. Rudder told the bogus story of killing 1257 01:11:36.060 --> 01:11:38.960 an alien in the woods of Washington State on Art 1258 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:44.439 Bell's show. He's a bad actor. He took the alien 1259 01:11:44.460 --> 01:11:47.199 body home. The alien came back to life. The government 1260 01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.600 stole all his evidence, except some bad video and pictures. 1261 01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:55.689 He claimed to be hiding from evil government agents. Has 1262 01:11:55.770 --> 01:11:58.579 pictures of a rubber alien and a fake UFO as proof. 1263 01:11:59.100 --> 01:12:03.460 Refused to have independent investigators evaluate evidence. And then there's 1264 01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:07.479 the film type problem. Dr. Reed claims to have used 1265 01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:11.010 to take photos of the UFO and the alien in 1996, 1266 01:12:11.010 --> 01:12:15.329 but that film wasn't manufactured until 1997. It has since 1267 01:12:15.369 --> 01:12:19.090 been discovered that Dr. Jonathan Reed is actually a Seattle 1268

01:12:19.149 --> 01:12:24.840 resident named John Bradley Rudder. He's lived in Seattle, Washington, 1269 01:12:24.899 --> 01:12:26.979 the entire time he claimed to be on the run 1270 01:12:27.060 --> 01:12:30.220 from the evil government agent. He isn't a doctor or 1271 01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:34.020 a PhD, and he has no college degrees. He's a liar, 1272 01:12:34.149 --> 01:12:37.369 a con man, and a UFO leech. And then there's Arya, 1273 01:12:38.310 --> 01:12:40.649 author of the book for Reed, a co-conspirator of the hoax. 1274 01:12:41.130 --> 01:12:44.430 He works as a clerk in a mini-mart in Seattle. 1275 01:12:44.989 --> 01:12:47.850 Arya claimed on national radio to never have met someone 1276 01:12:47.949 --> 01:12:52.140 posing as Dr. Harold Chakan. until an analysis on phony 1277 01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:55.760 alien blood samples and tissue was alleged to have been 1278 01:12:55.800 --> 01:13:00.010 done by Chakan. Ari and Chakan actually worked together at 1279 01:13:00.060 --> 01:13:02.949 the same mini-mart for at least five years, and they 1280 01:13:03.010 --> 01:13:06.449 both live in the same West Seattle neighborhood within two 1281 01:13:06.489 --> 01:13:09.850 blocks of each other's. These morons have been so exposed 1282 01:13:09.909 --> 01:13:11.890 in the United States that they've had to move their 1283 01:13:11.930 --> 01:13:14.609 con to Latin America in hopes of scamming off of 1284 01:13:14.670 --> 01:13:18.420 people there. Thanks to Jaime Muson. It looks as though 1285 01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:22.060 their venture into Latin America has been successful. It's amazing 1286 01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:25.319 anyone would give this case any credibility considering the mountain 1287 01:13:25.350 --> 01:13:30.210 of lies that come with it. And then there's additional articles. 1288 01:13:30.310 --> 01:13:34.329 Jonathan Reed exposed the dead alien and the doctor and 1289 01:13:34.350 --> 01:13:39.090 the deception. Apparently exposing this fraud wasn't enough. And some 1290 01:13:39.210 --> 01:13:42.670 are still endorsing it. And yeah, like Chris Ramsey here. 1291 01:13:43.210 --> 01:13:45.189 And Dr. Reed has set up a new website. The 1292 01:13:45.210 --> 01:13:48.979 website's gone. and found some morons willing to hawk his wares. 1293 01:13:49.220 --> 01:13:53.119 Amazing how some people just can't and won't face the evidence. 1294 01:13:53.399 --> 01:13:56.039 The need to believe is a powerful and dangerous thing. 1295 01:13:56.619 --> 01:14:01.189 Please note, several other so-called investigators have tried to take 1296 01:14:01.229 --> 01:14:06.069 credit for exposing this case. Gee, how do I say this? 1297 01:14:06.329 --> 01:14:10.069 I know they're full of shit. UFOwatchdog.com investigated to read 1298 01:14:10.149 --> 01:14:14.970 UFO fraud from the start. And this website extensively exposed 1299 01:14:15.010 --> 01:14:18.430 the true identity of Dr. Reed. Some chatted up UFO 1300 01:14:18.729 --> 01:14:25.210 watchdog delivers. And there is various, this is such a 1301 01:14:25.409 --> 01:14:31.350 data rich. So here's Reed and Wraith tell and sell 1302 01:14:31.380 --> 01:14:35.199 their tale with publisher Pam McLeod at International UFO Conference 1303 01:14:35.260 --> 01:14:40.460 in Nevada. To put it in the words of the 1304 01:14:40.739 --> 01:14:44.399 man that continues to flood ufology with hoaxers, controversy is 1305 01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:47.800 good for ratings. Let's take a quick look at the hoax. 1306 01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:54.100 It all began with Jonathan Reed and Robert Raith appeared 1307 01:14:54.229 --> 01:14:56.890 on the nationally syndicated radio show Coast to Coast AM 1308 01:14:56.909 --> 01:15:00.569 with Art Bell. These two, with Raith guiding Reed throughout 1309 01:15:00.609 --> 01:15:04.130 the program, constantly reminding him of the details, spun their 1310 01:15:04.170 --> 01:15:06.149 tale of how Reed claimed to have been hiking in 1311 01:15:06.170 --> 01:15:09.529 the woods of Washington State When his dog was disintegrated 1312 01:15:09.590 --> 01:15:12.460 by an alien, Reed claims to have picked up a 1313 01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.239 tree branch and bashed the alien skull in. He then 1314 01:15:15.300 --> 01:15:18.579 claims to have videotaped and photographed a UFO that appeared 1315 01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.420 in the woods nearby and says he took the alien 1316 01:15:21.460 --> 01:15:24.119 home where he stuffed it into a freezer. Of course, 1317 01:15:24.180 --> 01:15:28.569 the alien miraculously came back to life. Adding low-grade theatrical 1318 01:15:28.670 --> 01:15:32.170 elements to this cheap soap opera, Reed tells tales of 1319 01:15:32.229 --> 01:15:35.729 government thugs following him, ransacking his home, killing his friends, 1320 01:15:35.789 --> 01:15:38.399 and finally forcing him to go on the lambs. In 1321 01:15:38.430 --> 01:15:41.069 the first program, Reed was asked if he had presented 1322 01:15:41.069 --> 01:15:44.810 100% of his evidence, to which he gave a resounding yes. 1323 01:15:44.949 --> 01:15:47.350 But of course, when creating drama, you can't give away 1324 01:15:47.390 --> 01:15:50.890 your whole story. On a later broadcast, Reed claimed to 1325 01:15:50.930 --> 01:15:53.750 be in possession of a device from this so-called alien. 1326 01:15:54.289 --> 01:15:57.750 He just conveniently forgot to mention this. Well, after all, 1327 01:15:57.789 --> 01:15:59.760 the big bad government thugs were out to get him. 1328 01:16:00.300 --> 01:16:02.659 Reed said he noticed when he wrapped the alien in 1329 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:06.079 a thermal blanket and claims the evidence, which he calls 1330 01:16:06.100 --> 01:16:10.819 the Link Artifact, pictured left has been examined and deemed extraterrestrial. 1331 01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:13.479 Of course, he couldn't provide a single scrap of proof 1332 01:16:13.539 --> 01:16:16.140 of this. The so-called artifact looks very much like a

1333 01:16:16.180 --> 01:16:19.260 cheap movie prop, but of course no one can readily 1334 01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.899 view the artifacts since Reed claims it is far from 1335 01:16:22.939 --> 01:16:25.369 his possession and has been hidden in a secret place. 1336 01:16:26.210 --> 01:16:28.710 It apparently doesn't take much to impress Art Bell who 1337 01:16:28.750 --> 01:16:31.550 provided at least three programs for Reed to appear on 1338 01:16:32.090 --> 01:16:37.890 all while practically endorsing Reed's fable. Uh, And look at this. 1339 01:16:38.029 --> 01:16:40.789 Reid claims to have been constantly be on the move 1340 01:16:40.869 --> 01:16:43.909 and hiding as he fears for his life, yet he's 1341 01:16:43.930 --> 01:16:46.250 been able to give public lectures, was reported to have 1342 01:16:46.270 --> 01:16:51.520 been in attendance at the IUFOC in Laughlin, Nevada this 1343 01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:54.899 past March, recently gave a presentation in Philadelphia and is 1344 01:16:54.939 --> 01:16:58.060 scheduled to do a lecture in San Diego Society on 1345 01:16:58.100 --> 01:17:01.699 May 6th. Reid has a bank account under Junior Spectrum, 1346 01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:05.029 can maintain a website with all of his evidence on it, 1347 01:17:05.100 --> 01:17:07.739 publish a book, is able to call into and talk 1348 01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:10.460 to Art Bell for hours from time to time, yet 1349 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.960 has somehow managed to keep the vicious government thugs from 1350 01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:17.159 finding him and taking him out. If Reed was involved 1351 01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:19.270 in something as important as he claims he would have 1352 01:17:19.289 --> 01:17:22.609 been kidnapped a long time ago, then he'd be pushing daisies. 1353 01:17:24.010 --> 01:17:26.470 Reed went on to claim he had been shot during 1354 01:17:26.710 --> 01:17:31.109 an alleged botched abduction attempt. Reed offered the following photo 1355 01:17:31.189 --> 01:17:34.800 as proof of his ordeal. Left, Reed and his alleged 1356 01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.140 gunshot wound. Right, the special effects job from the movie 1357 01:17:38.180 --> 01:17:40.420 Forgive Me, Father, where the entry wound on the head. 1358 01:17:40.930 --> 01:17:46.449 Far more impressive than Reed's effects job. The wound looks 1359 01:17:46.489 --> 01:17:48.930 more like a low-grade makeup job and nothing like a 1360 01:17:48.970 --> 01:17:55.210 real contact point gunshot wound. So this is so dense. 1361 01:17:55.810 --> 01:17:58.149 This is so, so dense. Let's go to the dead 1362 01:17:58.250 --> 01:18:03.199 alien part two. What if we had a dead alien? 1363 01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:06.899 One of Reed's more outrageous claims involves Peter Davenport, director 1364 01:18:06.939 --> 01:18:10.659 of National UFO Reporting Center in Seattle, Washington, on national radio. 1365 01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:14.130 Reed claims that his friend, known only as Gary, anonymously 1366

01:18:14.170 --> 01:18:18.050 called the National UFO Reporting Center and spoke directly to Davenport. 1367 01:18:19.229 --> 01:18:26.560 This is so stupid. Unraveling the alien DNA chain. The 1368 01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:29.600 dramatics didn't stop with Reed disclosing the discovery of his 1369 01:18:29.640 --> 01:18:33.750 alleged ardent Alien artifact. Reed also claimed that the biological 1370 01:18:33.789 --> 01:18:36.390 samples had been collected from the alien. He further claimed 1371 01:18:36.409 --> 01:18:39.560 that his friend Gary had taken the samples, hidden them, 1372 01:18:39.619 --> 01:18:41.819 and then sent them back to Reed at a later time. 1373 01:18:43.340 --> 01:18:47.109 The Catholic University of... Yeah, so this guy was supposed to... 1374 01:18:47.770 --> 01:18:49.930 The person that did the analysis was supposed to. 1375 01:18:51.420 --> 01:18:55.960 Of Puerto Rico, but they don't offer degrees in microbiology 1376 01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:59.560 and there is no record of a Harold Chacon. As 1377 01:18:59.619 --> 01:19:02.720 for any kind of DNA analysis, Reed has absolutely no 1378 01:19:02.779 --> 01:19:07.239 proof of this. He hasn't presented any scientific findings, analysis documentation, 1379 01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:12.510 or DNA sequencing charts. Dan Iaria posted on his site 1380 01:19:12.609 --> 01:19:18.149 segments in favor of Reed's DNA assertion. Instead of presenting 1381 01:19:18.350 --> 01:19:21.399 any data on the alleged tissue and blood analysis, Iaria 1382 01:19:21.460 --> 01:19:24.800 presents his conclusions based on claims of the alleged Dr. 1383 01:19:24.859 --> 01:19:28.600 Harold Chakan, who again is another fake doctor who worked 1384 01:19:28.779 --> 01:19:32.710 at a convenience store. We know he never graduated from 1385 01:19:32.750 --> 01:19:35.710 Catholic University of Puerto Rico, and we also know he 1386 01:19:35.789 --> 01:19:41.840 isn't a real doctor or scientist of any kind. Further 1387 01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:45.189 pushing the envelope in this sour soap opera, Reid and 1388 01:19:45.229 --> 01:19:48.569 his supporters now claim two university professors were killed in 1389 01:19:48.609 --> 01:19:52.909 connection with the bogus alien DNA analysis. Reid's supporter, Dan Iorides, 1390 01:19:52.930 --> 01:19:54.149 states this on his website. 1391 01:19:54.210 --> 01:19:54.310 Wow. 1392 01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:12.180 It just goes on and on and on. The fakery 1393 01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:17.810 and fraud is real. Reed's alien is just absurd. There 1394 01:20:17.829 --> 01:20:20.510 are several problems with Reed's story about killing the alien 1395 01:20:20.550 --> 01:20:22.930 and the matter to which he killed it. You can 1396 01:20:22.970 --> 01:20:25.670 view images of the alien on Reed's website. He's since 1397 01:20:25.729 --> 01:20:29.130 taken it down. Reed claims that the creature is physical 1398 01:20:29.689 --> 01:20:33.229 in nature and has blood. Since Reed claims to have 1399 01:20:33.390 --> 01:20:36.210 used a tree branch to kill the alien with, There 1400 01:20:36.229 --> 01:20:39.109 should be no problem in believing him since his alien 1401 01:20:39.180 --> 01:20:42.039 has a wound, right? Wrong. The major problem with this 1402 01:20:42.180 --> 01:20:44.479 is not only is the stuffing coming out of the 1403 01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:48.300 alien's head a joke, so is the area of trauma. 1404 01:20:48.579 --> 01:20:51.260 The wound is not consistent with the case of blood trauma. 1405 01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:54.239 So it just goes on and on and on. It's 1406 01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:57.949 an alien. I took pictures. Reed said he took photographs 1407 01:20:58.029 --> 01:21:00.289 and video of the encounter. People have looked into Reed's 1408 01:21:00.329 --> 01:21:02.350 photos and posted on the internet and have found some 1409 01:21:02.390 --> 01:21:07.539 extraordinary inconsistencies. This goes far beyond pixel counting, as alleged 1410 01:21:07.579 --> 01:21:10.569 by none other than apparent Reed supporter Art Bell. As 1411 01:21:10.609 --> 01:21:12.470 for the video, those who have seen it report it 1412 01:21:12.770 --> 01:21:15.689 to be not all that grand. One person reported that 1413 01:21:15.729 --> 01:21:18.989 during the examination of the alien, Reed moves his head 1414 01:21:19.050 --> 01:21:22.369 and the entire neck and head move together as one piece, 1415 01:21:22.930 --> 01:21:25.859 demonstrating the high probability that it is nothing more than 1416 01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:29.399 a prop. Reed claimed that he had his camera equipment analyzed, 1417 01:21:29.439 --> 01:21:32.189 but he hasn't provided any proof of this. Reed went 1418 01:21:32.250 --> 01:21:34.909 on to claim that Kodak had examined his evidence. Of course, 1419 01:21:34.989 --> 01:21:40.430 Reed can't provide any documentation. Ouch, someone left a pin 1420 01:21:40.470 --> 01:21:43.560 in my shirt. Canadian resident Reed had been sent was 1421 01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:45.520 the first to point out a major problem with Reed's 1422 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.199 alien photos. Reed alleged that the garb of the alien 1423 01:21:48.220 --> 01:21:51.359 was a single piece of form-fitting garment that would seal 1424 01:21:51.420 --> 01:21:53.979 itself back together like liquid when it was cut with 1425 01:21:54.050 --> 01:21:57.449 an X-Acto knife. Reed stated, I used an X-Acto knife 1426 01:21:57.689 --> 01:22:02.149 and made a slice out and the material almost liquefied 1427 01:22:02.210 --> 01:22:05.449 as I cut it out and rejoined itself. If this 1428 01:22:05.529 --> 01:22:07.810 is the case, then why would there be a straight 1429 01:22:07.890 --> 01:22:13.090 pin in the alien's clothes? Look below. So, apparently there's pins. 1430 01:22:13.949 --> 01:22:17.909 There's pins in the prop, right? There is no mistaking 1431 01:22:17.949 --> 01:22:20.130 the item for what appears to be a straight pin. 1432 01:22:21.630 -->

01:22:27.170 This whole thing is just so stupid. Researcher Leah McDonald 1433 01:22:27.189 --> 01:22:30.109 examined Reed's photo and also found another major problem with 1434 01:22:30.170 --> 01:22:34.340 Reed's claim of alien super fabric. Below, in the right-hand 1435 01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:38.140 lower corner, you'll find a circle highlighting an area. This 1436 01:22:38.220 --> 01:22:40.659 is highlighted because the photo shows appear to be what 1437 01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:43.380 a button on the super alien garment. 1438 01:22:43.579 --> 01:22:44.020 Ha ha! 1439 01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:47.020 There's a button on it! When one takes the photo 1440 01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:50.720 and blows it up, visible are holes consistent with the button. Also, 1441 01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:53.239 the clothing the alien has on is bunched up around 1442 01:22:53.279 --> 01:22:55.939 the neck. and appears to be a turtleneck sweater or 1443 01:22:56.039 --> 01:22:59.380 shirt and not a solid form-fitting outfit, as Reid claims. 1444 01:23:04.970 --> 01:23:10.470 And there's problems with the so-called UFO photo. Someone claimed 1445 01:23:10.489 --> 01:23:12.829 that since Reid has negatives of the UFO, that there 1446 01:23:12.850 --> 01:23:16.390 would be no way to hoax such photographic negatives. This 1447 01:23:16.430 --> 01:23:19.699 could simply be accomplished by creating digital images of the UFO, 1448 01:23:19.819 --> 01:23:22.449 inserting them into the photo of a forest background, But 1449 01:23:22.470 --> 01:23:25.390 I'm telling you, this was actually done with something called 1450 01:23:25.409 --> 01:23:36.010 a Super X Levitation. Shell Game. Yeah, so this details 1451 01:23:36.069 --> 01:23:42.640 that the actual film used to make these photographs weren't 1452 01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:46.100 available in 1996 when he claims that he took the 1453 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:56.180 actual pictures. End Game. What about the government? One second here. 1454 01:23:56.220 --> 01:24:00.140 Let me get back to the main branch here. And 1455 01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:03.659 the Reed files is really the interesting part because it 1456 01:24:03.699 --> 01:24:11.640 just completely and totally destroys the fake doctor. Dr. Reed, 1457 01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:15.039 who claimed to be a psychologist with a Ph.D., published 1458 01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:19.010 and sold a book about his alleged alien encounter. has 1459 01:24:19.170 --> 01:24:23.029 produced and sold presentation videos, earned himself seven appearances on 1460 01:24:23.069 --> 01:24:26.149 Coast to Coast AM, and garnered three invitations to appear 1461 01:24:26.189 --> 01:24:29.880 at the International UFO Conference and appeared on Latin America's 1462 01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:34.760 most popular television program, Otro Rolo. In the process of 1463 01:24:34.819 --> 01:24:37.500 all this, a few so-called UFO investigators claimed to have 1464 01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:41.670 thoroughly investigated Dr. Reed

and his associates. These same investigators 1465 01:24:42.930 --> 01:24:45.130 said the case is genuine and Dr. Reed is a 1466 01:24:45.170 --> 01:24:51.369 real doctor. So these are the frauds, Christopher Montgomery, Donald Mayer, 1467 01:24:51.590 --> 01:24:57.229 Jaime Moussan, Bob Travers. These are all the people that 1468 01:24:57.310 --> 01:25:01.909 are co-signing this fake doctor. He's not a doctor. The 1469 01:25:01.949 --> 01:25:05.270 doctors he used to bolster his story weren't doctors either. 1470 01:25:05.560 --> 01:25:09.600 Nobody had real educations. This whole thing just falls apart 1471 01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:14.880 under scrutiny. And this is where it gets good because... 1472 01:25:15.369 --> 01:25:21.600 dr reed's uh girlfriend uh totally spilled the beans on 1473 01:25:21.659 --> 01:25:30.409 him right um werner's wife john bradley rutter and rutter's 1474 01:25:30.430 --> 01:25:33.510 former girlfriend werner stated this is the summer of 91 1475 01:25:33.510 --> 01:25:35.489 he got rid of the boat shortly after this picture 1476 01:25:35.550 --> 01:25:41.060 was taken um Werner also stated that Rudder had a 1477 01:25:41.119 --> 01:25:44.579 lot of stories about his alleged work in psychiatry with children. 1478 01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:48.020 Some of his stories about work were heart-wrenching. The two 1479 01:25:48.060 --> 01:25:50.350 classic stories were The Little Boy in Tacoma and The 1480 01:25:50.390 --> 01:25:53.369 Little Boy in Mercer Island. The first was taken from 1481 01:25:53.409 --> 01:25:55.710 a true story of a little boy in Tacoma whose 1482 01:25:55.770 --> 01:25:59.109 penis was partially cut off by a deranged PDF file. 1483 01:25:59.649 --> 01:26:01.840 Johnny told everyone that the team down here at St. 1484 01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:04.439 Joseph Hospital really wanted to come on board and help 1485 01:26:04.460 --> 01:26:08.119 them with the child. Again, these are all just stupid stories, right? 1486 01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:14.340 Rudder with former girlfriend Barb at Werner's 1995 wedding. I 1487 01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:16.300 trusted him as a friend for many years and took 1488 01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:18.739 face value when he said he was a child psychiatrist. 1489 01:26:19.539 --> 01:26:22.760 He talked the talk so well and I felt flattered 1490 01:26:22.779 --> 01:26:24.439 in some ways that we were friends and there were 1491 01:26:24.460 --> 01:26:28.140 times I relied upon his profession to help me deal 1492 01:26:28.180 --> 01:26:30.729 with some things in my life. Some of his advice 1493 01:26:30.779 --> 01:26:32.770 was strange though and I learned to take it with 1494 01:26:32.810 --> 01:26:34.850 a grain of salt, but I attributed that to giving 1495 01:26:34.890 --> 01:26:38.289 advice in a personal situation. which counsel might be different 1496 01:26:38.409 --> 01:26:40.590 if it weren't for the professional setting, after all, we 1497 01:26:40.630 --> 01:26:44.699 were friends. But soon, Werner came to start thinking about 1498 01:26:44.739 --> 01:26:47.399 things were not quite right, as they seemed to be 1499 01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:51.199 with his so-called friend Jonathan Rudder. Cautiously not wanting to 1500 01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:54.779 jeopardize his friendship, Werner began asking Rudder simple questions here 1501 01:26:54.850 --> 01:26:58.850 and there. When we would meet for a drink on 1502 01:26:58.930 --> 01:27:01.409 short notice, it was often because he was depressed because 1503 01:27:01.449 --> 01:27:04.930 he had lost a child, usually in some bizarre scenario. 1504 01:27:05.170 --> 01:27:07.550 And a family or authorities would always suppress the death 1505 01:27:07.609 --> 01:27:11.260 notice because an investigation was ongoing. So this guy's a 1506 01:27:11.270 --> 01:27:19.520 pathological liar. He's telling his friends stupid stories, right? Yeah, 1507 01:27:19.579 --> 01:27:22.859 listen to this one. I found out that Johnny's first 1508 01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:25.659 wife was not killed in a plane crash while four 1509 01:27:25.699 --> 01:27:28.960 months pregnant. Indeed, she was alive and well in California. 1510 01:27:29.500 --> 01:27:32.659 His previous girlfriend, Linda, is also alive and well. And 1511 01:27:32.699 --> 01:27:35.680 Johnny's parents, though elderly, and his brother are still with us. 1512 01:27:36.300 --> 01:27:39.689 And that he was not the holder of a dual Swiss-U.S. citizenship. 1513 01:27:40.890 --> 01:27:43.149 When asked about the story of the alien encounter in 1514 01:27:43.189 --> 01:27:46.090 the woods, Werner stated, Rudder mentioned this book to me 1515 01:27:46.590 --> 01:27:50.250 in the early-mid-90s as a fictional account of an alien encounter. 1516 01:27:50.750 --> 01:27:53.310 He started writing it in a diary like it was real. 1517 01:27:53.869 --> 01:27:55.789 I happen to know that Johnny does not hike in 1518 01:27:55.829 --> 01:27:57.989 the woods and he is allergic to everything that is 1519 01:27:58.050 --> 01:28:00.890 found in a yard, let alone a forest. A hike 1520 01:28:00.909 --> 01:28:03.840 for him was walking out of his old Volvo wagon. 1521 01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:06.979 As the alien counter story claims that a dog was 1522 01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:09.220 killed by the alien, I asked Werner if he knew 1523 01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:12.260 Rudder to have owned a dog. He has not owned 1524 01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:16.020 or had a pet, especially a dog, since his childhood. Again, 1525 01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:19.260 this is because of the aforementioned allergies. He clearly told 1526 01:28:19.300 --> 01:28:21.989 Barb that he had He would never own a dog. 1527 01:28:23.029 --> 01:28:26.260 Werner also stated, Johnny used to love talking about this 1528 01:28:26.420 --> 01:28:30.619 Art Bell radio program and the X-Files. The X-Files was 1529 01:28:30.659 --> 01:28:33.550 his favorite show. He was addicted to the X-Files and 1530 01:28:33.590 --> 01:28:36.569

his friend Gary being killed or whatever. He told me 1531 01:28:36.590 --> 01:28:38.850 years ago that his best friend Gary was an early 1532 01:28:38.909 --> 01:28:41.939 victim of HIV. But Werner isn't the only person that 1533 01:28:41.979 --> 01:28:46.359 knows Rudder and he most definitely isn't the only one 1534 01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:49.970 with something to say about him. This just goes on 1535 01:28:50.010 --> 01:29:02.960 and on, right? Denise Charvet is another one of those 1536 01:29:03.020 --> 01:29:05.689 witnesses that has known Rudder for a long time. Charvet 1537 01:29:05.729 --> 01:29:08.369 is the daughter of Rudder's former girlfriend and has known 1538 01:29:08.430 --> 01:29:12.829 Rudder since the age of 14. She came to learn 1539 01:29:12.869 --> 01:29:15.710 of the alien hoax from her aunt, Laura Graves. Charvet's 1540 01:29:15.750 --> 01:29:18.189 history with Rudder goes back to the time Rudder met him. 1541 01:29:18.489 --> 01:29:22.210 I met him as my mom was bringing him home 1542 01:29:22.310 --> 01:29:24.590 as her new boyfriend. I was 13 years old. I 1543 01:29:24.630 --> 01:29:27.449 got to know him, and supposedly he was a child psychiatrist. 1544 01:29:28.109 --> 01:29:30.319 A couple of years later, they're living together, and he 1545 01:29:30.380 --> 01:29:33.619 basically steps into my family as my stepfather. The next 1546 01:29:33.659 --> 01:29:35.420 thing I know, my mother is coming to me and 1547 01:29:35.460 --> 01:29:37.560 telling me that he's not a doctor, and some of 1548 01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:40.399 the things hadn't added up for a while. Now, whether 1549 01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:42.539 that means a couple of months, a year, or whatever. 1550 01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:46.560 So this is his former stepdaughter exposing him. Charvet said 1551 01:29:46.579 --> 01:29:49.539 that her mother told her that Rudder was never a doctor, 1552 01:29:50.340 --> 01:29:52.659 and the last 15 years Rudder has been around have 1553 01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:56.079 been a complete lie, Charvet said. This guy was pretty 1554 01:29:56.140 --> 01:29:58.710 much my father. But there was always things that didn't 1555 01:29:58.770 --> 01:30:00.949 add up about him. And then I guess when you 1556 01:30:00.970 --> 01:30:03.409 love somebody, you make excuses for them and believe what 1557 01:30:03.430 --> 01:30:06.250 you tell them. Charvet recalls the day when her mother 1558 01:30:06.310 --> 01:30:08.869 confronted Rutter about the fact that he was not a doctor. 1559 01:30:09.329 --> 01:30:11.810 Charvet stated, when my mom confronted him, I was there. 1560 01:30:11.869 --> 01:30:14.609 My sister and I were in another room listening, just 1561 01:30:14.670 --> 01:30:16.890 in case we wanted to protect our mom. This was 1562 01:30:16.949 --> 01:30:19.810 about 1998 and after they fought for a while. So 1563 01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:22.420 this is after the alien hoax. I went out and 1564 01:30:22.460 --> 01:30:25.920 confronted him and I said some things. Charvet told of 1565 01:30:25.979 --> 01:30:28.619 how Rutter would literally come home with stories of how 1566 01:30:28.699 --> 01:30:32.020 he called to major crime scenes to deal with victims, 1567 01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:35.350 yet his name would never appear in the news. Charvet 1568 01:30:35.390 --> 01:30:38.010 told a friend of a time when Rutter claimed to 1569 01:30:38.050 --> 01:30:41.130 be involved as a psychiatrist in a mass Seattle shooting 1570 01:30:41.170 --> 01:30:44.789 that took place in 1983. No reference to anyone named 1571 01:30:44.850 --> 01:30:49.560 Rutter is associated with that incident. UFO watchdog asked Charvet 1572 01:30:49.579 --> 01:30:51.739 if she knew the person claiming to be Dr. Jonathan 1573 01:30:51.800 --> 01:30:54.369 Reed was actually Rutter. I saw his picture on the 1574 01:30:54.430 --> 01:30:57.569 internet and I heard his voice. There's no mistake. Guaranteed. 1575 01:30:57.630 --> 01:31:03.109 Charvet had visited thealiendynasty.com and viewed photos and listened to 1576 01:31:03.149 --> 01:31:04.609 the audiobook by Dr. 1577 01:31:04.689 --> 01:31:04.930 Reed. 1578 01:31:05.710 --> 01:31:08.010 After listening to the audiotapes, it's him, but he has 1579 01:31:08.069 --> 01:31:13.590 a whole different persona about him. Charvet was asked if 1580 01:31:13.689 --> 01:31:16.069 she had ever heard of the alien Rudder claimed to 1581 01:31:16.109 --> 01:31:18.229 have killed or anything about a book he had written. 1582 01:31:18.310 --> 01:31:21.029 Charvet said no. He never mentioned it to me. But 1583 01:31:21.069 --> 01:31:23.390 I talked to my Aunt Joanne yesterday about it, and 1584 01:31:23.430 --> 01:31:25.829 she was telling me that her husband knew all about this. 1585 01:31:25.989 --> 01:31:28.229 I guess Jonathan had approached him for many years and 1586 01:31:28.270 --> 01:31:30.770 told him about this whole story, and that he was 1587 01:31:30.810 --> 01:31:34.510 going to pass it off as fact. Charvet said that 1588 01:31:34.550 --> 01:31:38.149 her Aunt Joanne had approached her husband and began telling 1589 01:31:38.229 --> 01:31:41.649 him about the alien tale Rudder was now telling. Charvet said, basically, 1590 01:31:41.710 --> 01:31:45.930 as my aunt was telling him this story, he basically said, Yes, 1591 01:31:46.270 --> 01:31:48.989 I know this is what happened. So he already knew 1592 01:31:49.149 --> 01:31:51.449 everything about the story before she told it to him 1593 01:31:51.890 --> 01:31:54.470 because he had discussed it with Jonathan and Jonathan told 1594 01:31:54.529 --> 01:31:57.569 him what he was basically going to do. In other words, 1595 01:31:57.609 --> 01:32:01.109 he was going to promote a hoax. Charvet told UFO 1596 01:32:01.170 --> 01:32:03.850 Watchdog of an interesting incident that took place several years 1597 01:32:03.890 --> 01:32:06.050 ago in the summer. Charvet said, my aunt has a 1598 01:32:06.109 --> 01:32:08.390 son

and he was pretty young at the time. And 1599 01:32:08.449 --> 01:32:10.789 I was told that Jonathan had dressed their son up 1600 01:32:10.949 --> 01:32:13.770 as an alien and took pictures of him. He dressed 1601 01:32:13.819 --> 01:32:15.770 up my cousin as an alien, and I believe that 1602 01:32:15.810 --> 01:32:18.770 Jonathan made the costume. It was the middle of the summer, 1603 01:32:18.909 --> 01:32:21.590 and he dressed him up just out of the blue, 1604 01:32:22.069 --> 01:32:23.710 just to see if he could make him look like 1605 01:32:23.750 --> 01:32:26.949 an alien. So here he is faking other shit with 1606 01:32:27.010 --> 01:32:30.369 little kids. Chauvet said that she was shocked when she 1607 01:32:30.409 --> 01:32:32.989 discovered that Rudder was now passing off his UFO hoax 1608 01:32:33.029 --> 01:32:35.649 as being real. When I found out he was doing this, 1609 01:32:35.729 --> 01:32:38.289 I was in shock. Not to insult anybody, but I'm 1610 01:32:38.329 --> 01:32:41.250 looking at it thinking how anybody could believe this. It's 1611 01:32:41.289 --> 01:32:43.649 not even close to being real, and maybe that's because 1612 01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:45.619 I know the guy, but I'm amazed that there are 1613 01:32:45.659 --> 01:32:48.619 so many people that would believe it. Chauvet was asked 1614 01:32:48.659 --> 01:32:50.960 about the claim that Rudder was on the run from 1615 01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:56.039 government agents during the year 1996 after his alleged alien encounter. 1616 01:32:56.100 --> 01:32:59.340 Chauvet stated that she found this hard to believe. I'm 1617 01:32:59.380 --> 01:33:02.479 thinking how this could possibly happen in 1996 when here 1618 01:33:02.500 --> 01:33:06.500 he is at Christmas of 96 with this videotape with 1619 01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:10.220 my family. And by the way, UFO Watchdog got possession 1620 01:33:10.260 --> 01:33:13.159 of that video. So this fake doctor is claiming that 1621 01:33:13.199 --> 01:33:16.319 he's on the run in 1996 after his alien encounter, 1622 01:33:16.520 --> 01:33:18.829 and he's just hanging out at home with his stepdaughter 1623 01:33:18.970 --> 01:33:23.789 and his wife. Chauvet asked if Rudder was an avid hiker. Chauvet, 1624 01:33:23.829 --> 01:33:27.329 barely controlling her laughter, stated, I tried for the longest 1625 01:33:27.369 --> 01:33:29.270 time to get he and my mom camping or anything 1626 01:33:29.310 --> 01:33:32.310 like that with me, and it would never happen. If 1627 01:33:32.390 --> 01:33:34.630 it wasn't at the Hilton or whatever, he wasn't there. 1628 01:33:34.909 --> 01:33:37.529 You couldn't mess the man's hair up. His hair was perfect. 1629 01:33:37.569 --> 01:33:40.680 It was never out of place. He used hairspray. He 1630 01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:46.319 swears he wears foundation and powder. He also wore cologne excessively. 1631 01:33:46.859 --> 01:33:49.550 Chabé was asked if she knew of any allergies Mutter 1632 01:33:49.949 --> 01:33:52.390 might have. He had skin problems really bad on his 1633 01:33:52.409 --> 01:33:55.529 hands and arms. He had problems with pets. My mom 1634 01:33:55.550 --> 01:33:58.029 had a cat and that seemed okay. but he had 1635 01:33:58.069 --> 01:34:00.649 always had a problem with pet hair. I know 100% 1636 01:34:00.649 --> 01:34:03.510 that he has never owned a dog. She lived with 1637 01:34:03.569 --> 01:34:05.609 him when he did this hoax. He had never owned 1638 01:34:05.689 --> 01:34:08.069 a dog, and I'd never seen him touch a dog. 1639 01:34:08.500 --> 01:34:10.939 Getting him to accept the family cat we had was 1640 01:34:10.960 --> 01:34:13.539 a very long process. He was not an animal person. 1641 01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:16.779 So the whole point of the story is he had 1642 01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:19.720 to kill the alien because the alien disintegrated his dog. 1643 01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:21.920 Turns out he didn't have a dog at the time. 1644 01:34:22.460 --> 01:34:24.800 Charvet is not the last person to go on record 1645 01:34:24.859 --> 01:34:30.470 about Dr. Reed's true identity. And here it just goes 1646 01:34:30.949 --> 01:34:35.739 on and on and on. Rudder during November 1996. It 1647 01:34:37.739 --> 01:34:40.399 was taken Thanksgiving Day with Rudder hamming it up for 1648 01:34:40.420 --> 01:34:42.300 the camera. This is when he was supposed to be 1649 01:34:42.399 --> 01:34:44.640 on the run. Remember, he's supposed to be on the 1650 01:34:44.739 --> 01:34:48.010 run in 1996 because the government's trying to kill him. 1651 01:34:48.050 --> 01:34:52.270 And here he is on Thanksgiving. He's just he's just 1652 01:34:52.289 --> 01:34:52.970 hanging out. 1653 01:34:53.090 --> 01:34:53.350 Right. 1654 01:34:56.149 --> 01:34:58.369 Graves said that during the time Dr. Reed claimed to 1655 01:34:58.390 --> 01:35:00.470 be on the move, that he was actually living comfortably 1656 01:35:00.510 --> 01:35:03.609 in Seattle, Washington. Graves told me that Rudder had been 1657 01:35:03.630 --> 01:35:06.310 a guest on the wedding of Graves' son in Las 1658 01:35:06.350 --> 01:35:10.359 Vegas during the week of September 6, 1997. So there 1659 01:35:10.380 --> 01:35:12.859 he is. He's not on the run. He's not on 1660 01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:20.159 the run, right? Will the real doctor please stand up? Yeah, 1661 01:35:20.359 --> 01:35:23.079 it just goes on and on and on. Driving down 1662 01:35:23.140 --> 01:35:26.930 Alien Lane. You may recall that Dr. Reed claimed to 1663 01:35:26.970 --> 01:35:30.050 have used the same Jeep to haul the dead alien 1664 01:35:30.069 --> 01:35:33.810 from the woods to his home in October 1996. There's 1665 01:35:33.850 --> 01:35:36.409 just one problem with the claim. The Jeep wasn't in 1666 01:35:36.470 --> 01:35:41.270 Rudder's possession until the 17th of April 1997. And there's 1667 01:35:41.310 --> 01:35:44.720 a bill of sale. So even the Jeep, even the 1668 01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:48.739 Jeep

that he claimed to use to carry the alien around. Yeah, 1669 01:35:48.779 --> 01:35:51.579 that never happened. That never happened. He didn't own the 1670 01:35:51.619 --> 01:35:56.149 Jeep at the time. Great job. Fact-checking this guy, Chris Ramsey. 1671 01:35:56.229 --> 01:35:59.890 Great job. Great job. You just sat across from him 1672 01:35:59.930 --> 01:36:02.750 like a fucking moron for three hours, and you didn't 1673 01:36:02.850 --> 01:36:05.069 ask him about any of this shit? You have a 1674 01:36:05.109 --> 01:36:08.170 responsibility as a content creator to call this guy on 1675 01:36:08.210 --> 01:36:12.529 his mountain of bullshit. He didn't even ask him. Didn't 1676 01:36:12.550 --> 01:36:16.149 even ask him. Bcat with one for the goal. Doing 1677 01:36:16.189 --> 01:36:19.210 God's work. Seeking the truth. Thank you so much for 1678 01:36:19.229 --> 01:36:21.810 your kindness, generosity, and big, big support of the show. 1679 01:36:22.569 --> 01:36:26.020 It is much, much appreciated. And checking in with the 1680 01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:28.460 kick chat, we're all caught up over there. I guess 1681 01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:31.539 we'll go back to the video and we'll listen to 1682 01:36:31.579 --> 01:36:34.960 more bullshit and we'll watch Chris Ramsey sit there like 1683 01:36:35.020 --> 01:36:38.279 a complete and total fucking moron across this complete and 1684 01:36:38.350 --> 01:36:43.970 total fraudulent, hoaxing, scamming, grifter liar and pretend that any 1685 01:36:44.010 --> 01:36:45.430 of this is real. Great. 1686 01:36:46.310 --> 01:36:48.569 But I also know the dark side of it. You know, 1687 01:36:48.609 --> 01:36:51.300 they're not giving us What I'm going to tell you, 1688 01:36:51.619 --> 01:36:55.090 and what I'm going to tell you is there's an 1689 01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:58.890 issue with giving disclosure. Oh, come on. 1690 01:36:58.930 --> 01:37:01.710 We'll fast forward this. See where this goes. 1691 01:37:01.729 --> 01:37:09.369 Because it's complex. These people are very complex. And when 1692 01:37:09.390 --> 01:37:12.649 I say people, I'm talking about, you know, aliens. 1693 01:37:12.729 --> 01:37:14.069 Yeah. 1694 01:37:14.489 --> 01:37:17.640 I've known this already. little guy long enough where I 1695 01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:21.520 don't call him an alien anymore. He's kind of a friend. 1696 01:37:21.680 --> 01:37:22.229 He's a person. 1697 01:37:22.729 --> 01:37:25.770 He's friends with the fake alien. Why'd you pass a 1698 01:37:25.810 --> 01:37:29.029 skull in then? Why'd you pass the alien skull in 1699 01:37:29.069 --> 01:37:31.909 if you're friends, you asshole? This is so stupid. 1700 01:37:32.350 --> 01:37:35.409 It's still unnerving to see him just pop into your 1701 01:37:35.470 --> 01:37:40.180 world and then leave, because that's what he does. I'm 1702 01:37:40.220 --> 01:37:42.720 not the only one that's seen him. There's a lot 1703 01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:48.310 of other people that have witnessed him. Clearly, firsthand, you know, 1704 01:37:48.399 --> 01:37:52.520 not photographs, but right in their house. And a bunch 1705 01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:54.689 of those people have come out and talked about it. 1706 01:37:54.819 --> 01:37:58.659 Now, we were able to track down a neighbor. Jonathan 1707 01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:04.640 Reed used, apparently Jonathan Reed used his parents' dog in 1708 01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:08.920 the hoax. And the dog was still alive after somewhere 1709 01:38:08.939 --> 01:38:12.600 around 2001, somebody checked in with the neighbor of the parents. 1710 01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:16.420 So Not only did he not own the dog, he 1711 01:38:16.479 --> 01:38:21.300 borrowed his parents' dog to use in the hoax. And 1712 01:38:21.340 --> 01:38:24.189 then he claimed that the alien disintegrated the dog, but 1713 01:38:24.229 --> 01:38:27.909 the next door neighbors of his parents verified that the 1714 01:38:27.949 --> 01:38:31.529 dog was still alive in 2008. in 2001 years after 1715 01:38:31.569 --> 01:38:34.550 the hoax. Uh, and thank you for reminding me of that. 1716 01:38:34.689 --> 01:38:37.350 This whole story is one of the stupidest. 1717 01:38:36.810 --> 01:38:39.189 Ones I've ever heard. Oh, well, we've never heard anything 1718 01:38:39.229 --> 01:38:44.430 about that. Well, if you look at my new documentary, 1719 01:38:45.270 --> 01:38:47.409 which everybody should see. Yeah. 1720 01:38:47.470 --> 01:38:48.460 Everybody should buy it. 1721 01:38:49.020 --> 01:38:52.010 Um, There's a guy in the beginning. 1722 01:38:52.029 --> 01:38:53.970 We should have a watch party and have an open 1723 01:38:54.010 --> 01:38:57.529 panel and watch that piece of shit documentary. It's so funny. 1724 01:38:57.590 --> 01:39:00.970 That says that I told him early on, I said, 1725 01:39:00.989 --> 01:39:06.149 you know, there's a possibility that once Freddie knows I 1726 01:39:06.229 --> 01:39:11.670 visited you, he may show up in your house, in 1727 01:39:11.689 --> 01:39:12.369 your business. 1728 01:39:13.069 --> 01:39:15.029 Oh, the alien's going to visit other people. 1729 01:39:15.050 --> 01:39:20.949 He's curious and he's timid, but you'll know. And a 1730 01:39:20.989 --> 01:39:22.560 lot of people have. 1731 01:39:22.140 --> 01:39:27.020 Called me and said, you know, you're right. Oh, so 1732 01:39:27.039 --> 01:39:29.920 the alien is now visiting some of his friends. Look 1733 01:39:29.939 --> 01:39:32.760 at Chris Ramsey, just smiling, waiting for this paycheck to 1734 01:39:32.800 --> 01:39:36.899 talk to this asshole. I hope that you're, you know, 1735 01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:40.829 selling your soul to this complete and total lunatic asshole. 1736 01:39:41.289 --> 01:39:43.729 Fake fraud doctor is worth it. What are you getting? 1737 01:39:43.750 --> 01:39:46.470 A couple thousand dollars? Is that what it costs to 1738 01:39:46.609 --> 01:39:51.130 buy your integrity? You piece of shit grifter, Chris

Ramsey. 1739 01:39:52.170 --> 01:39:56.029 And all I can say is not all of them 1740 01:39:56.090 --> 01:39:59.840 are bad. You know, they're as much trying to figure 1741 01:39:59.960 --> 01:40:04.079 out us as we try to figure out them. But 1742 01:40:04.380 --> 01:40:07.560 they are from our extreme future. 1743 01:40:07.579 --> 01:40:11.970 Oh, they're aliens from the future. That makes sense. And 1744 01:40:12.050 --> 01:40:12.949 all I can estimate. 1745 01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:24.239 In some ways, they're trying to prevent some obstacles that 1746 01:40:24.279 --> 01:40:29.130 they've seen that we have to get over. And they 1747 01:40:29.149 --> 01:40:33.609 don't want us to end. They don't want our civilization 1748 01:40:34.050 --> 01:40:38.090 to end. So they're trying to, in some ways, prevent 1749 01:40:38.170 --> 01:40:40.449 us from making some serious mistakes. 1750 01:40:41.569 --> 01:40:44.649 Oh, they're our space brothers. They're trying to help us. Man, 1751 01:40:45.390 --> 01:40:48.050 this sucks. These aliens are trying to help us. And 1752 01:40:48.090 --> 01:40:50.470 this guy bashed the alien skull in and stuffed him 1753 01:40:50.529 --> 01:40:53.529 in a fucking freezer. I wouldn't be surprised if those 1754 01:40:53.689 --> 01:40:55.649 aliens are going to come back and butt bang him 1755 01:40:55.670 --> 01:40:58.890 to death or something. This is bad. Why are you killing? 1756 01:40:59.250 --> 01:41:01.529 Why are you smashing the alien skull in if they're 1757 01:41:01.590 --> 01:41:05.640 here to help us? Ken Smith. Sorry, I missed it. 1758 01:41:05.649 --> 01:41:07.649 I'm just joining the stream. Was this guy on Coast 1759 01:41:07.670 --> 01:41:10.130 to Coast way back in the late 90s? I seem 1760 01:41:10.170 --> 01:41:15.779 to remember his story. Yes, 1996, 1997. He did, I think, something, 1761 01:41:16.340 --> 01:41:20.800 seven or more appearances on Art Bell's Coast to Coast AM, right? 1762 01:41:21.739 --> 01:41:24.739 And thank you, Ken Smith, for your kindness, generosity, and big, 1763 01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:27.479 big support of the show. It is much, much appreciated. 1764 01:41:27.500 --> 01:41:30.100 We'll check in with the kick chat, and we're still 1765 01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:32.930 good over there, and we'll continue the video. Then I've 1766 01:41:32.970 --> 01:41:37.210 got a brutal debunk to go through that'll just sum 1767 01:41:37.390 --> 01:41:41.590 up what a lying scumbag grifter this fake doctor is. 1768 01:41:42.029 --> 01:41:45.380 And by extension... What a lying scumbag grifter that Chris 1769 01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:46.119 Ramsey is. 1770 01:41:46.479 --> 01:41:48.140 Fortunately, we do. 1771 01:41:48.859 --> 01:41:51.399 You sat across from this guy for three hours and 1772 01:41:51.420 --> 01:41:53.699 you couldn't bring any of this up? All these facts 1773 01:41:53.760 --> 01:41:55.680 that we have? You could have left him in a 1774 01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:59.619 puddle of his own

piss. A real interviewer could rip 1775 01:41:59.659 --> 01:42:02.659 this guy to shreds in 15 minutes or less. But 1776 01:42:02.699 --> 01:42:04.760 Chris Ramsey is a pussy and he's just here for 1777 01:42:04.779 --> 01:42:07.359 the money. He just wants the paycheck. He doesn't care 1778 01:42:07.399 --> 01:42:11.479 if it's fake. He's even calling him doctor. In the 1779 01:42:11.579 --> 01:42:14.350 description of the video and in the title of the video, 1780 01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:19.090 which is inauthentic content. You're lying to people to get 1781 01:42:19.130 --> 01:42:22.170 them to click on. This guy's not a doctor, Chris Ramsey. 1782 01:42:22.550 --> 01:42:24.310 Check your terms of service, buddy. 1783 01:42:24.890 --> 01:42:27.729 That checks out with a lot of the content. 1784 01:42:27.829 --> 01:42:30.289 And I rarely say this, but people who do things 1785 01:42:30.329 --> 01:42:33.359 like this, like pretend a doctor is a doctor on 1786 01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:35.939 their huge YouTube channel so that it can make lots 1787 01:42:35.979 --> 01:42:38.680 of ad revenue. I believe that they should lose their 1788 01:42:38.720 --> 01:42:43.000 YouTube channel. That's my personal belief. I'm not encouraging anybody 1789 01:42:43.020 --> 01:42:45.300 to report or anything like that. It's just my belief 1790 01:42:45.340 --> 01:42:47.890 that if you lie to all of YouTube so that 1791 01:42:47.930 --> 01:42:50.510 you can make ad revenue money, you should lose your 1792 01:42:50.550 --> 01:42:53.409 channel and your ability to be on YouTube. That's my opinion, 1793 01:42:53.449 --> 01:42:54.350 and I'm entitled to it. 1794 01:42:54.350 --> 01:42:54.470 Okay. 1795 01:42:54.489 --> 01:42:55.130 But that's one thing. 1796 01:43:01.220 --> 01:43:03.039 I haven't talked about with anybody. 1797 01:43:03.060 --> 01:43:04.760 Well, I appreciate you opening up about that. 1798 01:43:05.260 --> 01:43:07.779 But I think it's serious. I think we need to 1799 01:43:08.359 --> 01:43:16.229 understand how that concept facilitates in our world. 1800 01:43:16.489 --> 01:43:18.949 I'm just scraping through this waiting for the skeptical part. 1801 01:43:18.970 --> 01:43:22.050 Because it doesn't mean just unlocking the closet and letting 1802 01:43:22.109 --> 01:43:23.430 all the pictures out. 1803 01:43:23.590 --> 01:43:24.170 Sure. 1804 01:43:24.390 --> 01:43:28.270 It has a whole other reference to our whole civilization. 1805 01:43:28.510 --> 01:43:28.710 Yeah. 1806 01:43:29.420 --> 01:43:31.770 It's one of those things where you hear about this 1807 01:43:31.779 --> 01:43:34.109 and the phenomenon specifically, but as soon as you start 1808 01:43:34.130 --> 01:43:37.770 observing them, then they begin observing you almost as if 1809 01:43:37.789 --> 01:43:38.789 you're opening that door. 1810 01:43:38.869 --> 01:43:41.390 That's right. That's exactly true. 1811 01:43:42.250 --> 01:43:45.229 And pardon me, I'm scrubbing through this waiting to see

1812 01:43:45.270 --> 01:43:47.609 when Chris Ramsey is going to ask him a critical question, 1813 01:43:47.649 --> 01:43:51.609 but it's not going to happen. And let's be clear, 1814 01:43:53.430 --> 01:43:56.529 the minute somebody would start asking this guy critical questions, 1815 01:43:56.609 --> 01:43:58.960 he won't be on their show anymore. He will not 1816 01:43:59.000 --> 01:44:05.279 be on their show. Greenman5229 is here. How are they 1817 01:44:05.439 --> 01:44:08.380 all the chosen ones? Yeah, out of everybody on Earth, 1818 01:44:09.520 --> 01:44:14.010 the aliens chose him to... And they vaporized his poor dog, 1819 01:44:14.050 --> 01:44:16.430 but it wasn't his dog. It was his parents' dog. 1820 01:44:16.949 --> 01:44:19.970 This whole story is so stupid. It's just one of 1821 01:44:20.010 --> 01:44:25.189 the stupidest stories, easily debunkable. But Chris Ramsey's right there 1822 01:44:25.210 --> 01:44:28.010 to get his paycheck, right? Get that couple thousand dollars. 1823 01:44:28.069 --> 01:44:31.869 Just sell your soul to a lying, scamming, fake Dr. 1824 01:44:31.949 --> 01:44:34.810 Grifter so that you can make a couple thousand dollars 1825 01:44:34.949 --> 01:44:35.430 off of it. 1826 01:44:35.529 --> 01:44:38.109 I didn't say this to you early on, but I 1827 01:44:38.189 --> 01:44:43.359 have a few artifacts that are tangible, that are real, 1828 01:44:43.479 --> 01:44:46.420 like the metal cuff that I call the link artifact. 1829 01:44:46.979 --> 01:44:50.220 I've asked them time and time again, please take this back. 1830 01:44:50.340 --> 01:44:53.420 Please take it from me. I don't want the responsibility. 1831 01:44:54.090 --> 01:44:57.130 And I don't know if that's an AI recreation of 1832 01:44:57.229 --> 01:45:01.489 it or if this loser Ramsey was so impressed with 1833 01:45:01.529 --> 01:45:05.510 this fake alien artifact that he got a replica made. 1834 01:45:05.789 --> 01:45:09.510 I don't know. Looks like an AI rendering. 1835 01:45:09.529 --> 01:45:10.789 To have this. 1836 01:45:10.890 --> 01:45:12.989 Yeah, it's floating. It's an AI rendering. 1837 01:45:13.050 --> 01:45:15.390 He's going to steal it because they're constantly trying to 1838 01:45:15.529 --> 01:45:21.510 steal it. And they basically don't answer that question when 1839 01:45:21.550 --> 01:45:25.479 I say, please take it back. And I was told 1840 01:45:25.699 --> 01:45:30.050 once that it's a good response. 1841 01:45:30.470 --> 01:45:33.189 He's going to talk about his dog when his stepdaughter 1842 01:45:33.250 --> 01:45:36.550 confirmed that he never owned a dog. Isn't it great, 1843 01:45:36.630 --> 01:45:39.989 Chris Ramsey? Do you feel like a fucking moron yet? 1844 01:45:40.529 --> 01:45:42.550 How many times am I going to rip you to 1845 01:45:42.670 --> 01:45:47.310 shreds for not knowing anything about these lying scumbag grifters 1846 01:45:47.369 --> 01:45:51.100 that you keep interviewing and profiting from? How many times

1847 01:45:51.180 --> 01:45:52.960 am I going to make you look like a complete 1848 01:45:52.979 --> 01:45:57.250 and total dummy And here's one of those times, Chris Ramsey, 1849 01:45:57.789 --> 01:46:03.250 his stepdaughter confirmed that he never owned a dog. Other 1850 01:46:03.289 --> 01:46:06.159 people tracked down that it was his parents' dog, and 1851 01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:11.479 the dog was still alive in 2001. Chris Ramsey, maybe 1852 01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:14.920 that would be something good to ask. Like, if these 1853 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:19.460 aliens disintegrated and murdered your dog... And that's the big, 1854 01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:22.220 the whole start of your story. You're walking in the woods, 1855 01:46:22.260 --> 01:46:25.180 you come across an alien, it disintegrates your dog into 1856 01:46:25.220 --> 01:46:28.289 a pile of ash. Maybe a good question to ask 1857 01:46:28.350 --> 01:46:32.689 Chris Ramsey would be, but why did your stepdaughter state 1858 01:46:32.829 --> 01:46:35.390 on the record in an interview that you never owned 1859 01:46:35.470 --> 01:46:38.390 a dog, that you're allergic to dogs? And other people 1860 01:46:38.430 --> 01:46:41.329 found out that it was your parents' dog. And even 1861 01:46:41.350 --> 01:46:44.979 though you, Dr. Jonathan Reed, said the dog got disintegrated 1862 01:46:45.020 --> 01:46:49.279 by an alien in 1996... People confirmed with the next-door 1863 01:46:49.319 --> 01:46:51.899 neighbor of his parents that the dog was still alive 1864 01:46:52.340 --> 01:46:58.529 in 2001, Chris Ramsey. I feel bad for Chris Ramsey's audience. 1865 01:46:59.090 --> 01:47:03.329 They just... They show up hopeful, like, maybe this story 1866 01:47:03.430 --> 01:47:06.750 is true, and Chris Ramsey feeds them another completely and 1867 01:47:06.810 --> 01:47:10.060 totally fake story, just like the Serpo story, just like 1868 01:47:10.100 --> 01:47:12.979 the Bob Lazar story, just like the Travis Walton story. 1869 01:47:14.340 --> 01:47:14.500 This. 1870 01:47:15.579 --> 01:47:18.420 Chris Ramsey at this point is just a hoax, a 1871 01:47:18.479 --> 01:47:22.279 hoax promoting profiteer. He doesn't care if they're hoaxes. He 1872 01:47:22.310 --> 01:47:24.409 doesn't care if they're fake. As long as he gets 1873 01:47:24.449 --> 01:47:26.050 his couple thousand dollars. 1874 01:47:26.710 --> 01:47:30.930 And, you know, people say, oh, well, this was so courageous. 1875 01:47:31.310 --> 01:47:35.399 It was not courageous. It was insanity. It was rage 1876 01:47:35.500 --> 01:47:36.260 that took over. 1877 01:47:40.159 --> 01:47:42.340 This is what a bad actor, this guy. 1878 01:47:42.220 --> 01:47:45.260 I've had to deal with. And it's, and it, It 1879 01:47:45.500 --> 01:47:46.960 waxes and wanes. 1880 01:47:47.199 --> 01:47:50.180 I've seen first year soap opera actors that are better 1881 01:47:50.199 --> 01:47:50.939 than this guy. 1882 01:47:51.340 --> 01:47:53.340 You know, for a while there'll be nothing. Then all 1883 01:47:53.359 --> 01:47:56.439 of a sudden I can't go anywhere. There's people following 1884 01:47:56.479 --> 01:47:59.560 me in a car, chasing me down, you know, and 1885 01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:02.619 pointing their finger, you know, you need to stop. 1886 01:48:03.020 --> 01:48:03.340 Yeah. 1887 01:48:04.939 --> 01:48:08.079 Yeah. Everybody's trying to stop him because his evidence is 1888 01:48:08.119 --> 01:48:09.180 so overwhelming. 1889 01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:10.300 How old was he? 1890 01:48:10.939 --> 01:48:13.460 Seven years old. Golden retriever. 1891 01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:17.069 Look at his hands are shaking. This guy's shaking. This 1892 01:48:17.090 --> 01:48:19.630 guy is shaking as he takes a glass. You know why? 1893 01:48:19.739 --> 01:48:21.619 Because he's nervous because he knows he's lying. 1894 01:48:22.060 --> 01:48:25.529 Great dog. Went everywhere with me. I mean, the kids 1895 01:48:25.670 --> 01:48:29.529 loved her that my patients dealt. I mean, she would 1896 01:48:29.609 --> 01:48:31.949 free reign in the hospital. She'd get on the elevator, 1897 01:48:32.029 --> 01:48:33.930 go down, somebody bring her back up. You know what 1898 01:48:33.949 --> 01:48:34.409 I mean? 1899 01:48:34.430 --> 01:48:36.930 They don't let a dog in a hospital, first of all. 1900 01:48:37.050 --> 01:48:38.949 This is how you know this guy's a fraud. They 1901 01:48:38.989 --> 01:48:41.569 don't let dogs in a hospital, even if it's a 1902 01:48:41.710 --> 01:48:45.369 nice dog, a friendly dog, maybe a service dog. But 1903 01:48:45.590 --> 01:48:47.569 he's never mentioned that the dog was a service dog. 1904 01:48:47.899 --> 01:48:49.720 And you notice there he said, oh, it was great 1905 01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:52.619 with my kids. He didn't have kids. He had a stepdaughter, 1906 01:48:53.420 --> 01:48:57.859 two stepdaughters. And they testified that he never owned a dog. 1907 01:48:59.260 --> 01:49:03.210 Great dog. Absolutely smart as a whip. Smarter than me. 1908 01:49:03.229 --> 01:49:04.689 Running around in the forest. 1909 01:49:04.869 --> 01:49:05.289 Oh, yeah. 1910 01:49:05.970 --> 01:49:09.329 Well, the forest was a different scenario because I lived 1911 01:49:09.369 --> 01:49:13.149 in the city. And you can't really let your dog 1912 01:49:13.189 --> 01:49:17.470 run in the city off the leash. And you shouldn't. 1913 01:49:18.250 --> 01:49:20.979 So we'd go to the forest. And there were a 1914 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:23.520 couple of places I liked to go. And we'd been 1915 01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:24.439 there a bunch of times. 1916 01:49:24.579 --> 01:49:28.010 According to his daughter, he never went hiking. He never 1917 01:49:28.050 --> 01:49:31.550 went to the woods. Stepdaughter, let's be clear. 1918 01:49:31.909 --> 01:49:34.390 Old, we knew where we were. And you could let 1919 01:49:34.409 --> 01:49:37.930 her go and she'd run, you know, 100 yards and 1920 01:49:37.949 -->

01:49:41.270 then she'd come back. And if I told her, like 1921 01:49:41.369 --> 01:49:44.270 one day we were walking and there was a deer 1922 01:49:46.140 --> 01:49:49.979 with her baby walking, you know, 300 feet in front 1923 01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:53.720 of us. And I said, Susie. And she stopped instantly 1924 01:49:53.880 --> 01:49:57.220 and wouldn't move until I told her to come back. 1925 01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:01.890 But she knew. She knew. And she was an orphan 1926 01:50:01.949 --> 01:50:04.189 to me. She just ended up on my front porch 1927 01:50:04.789 --> 01:50:06.050 when she was just a puppy. 1928 01:50:07.050 --> 01:50:10.010 And again, he's never had a dog, according to his 1929 01:50:10.050 --> 01:50:13.250 stepdaughters and his former, I guess, wife. 1930 01:50:13.810 --> 01:50:15.779 You know, I didn't teach her all that stuff. 1931 01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:21.359 And do you think if it wasn't for Susie... You'd 1932 01:50:21.380 --> 01:50:22.779 never run into Freddie? 1933 01:50:23.850 --> 01:50:29.029 Susie didn't exist, Chris Ramsey, you fucking moron. Well, the 1934 01:50:29.069 --> 01:50:31.329 dog existed, but it wasn't his dog. No. 1935 01:50:32.350 --> 01:50:33.300 So maybe.... 1936 01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:36.579 I know this. People say, well, how do you think 1937 01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:41.260 this happened? I don't know because it wasn't firsthand information. 1938 01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:45.119 It's been secondhand information from Freddie and from other people. 1939 01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:48.239 You know, I've gone around the world three times with 1940 01:50:48.260 --> 01:50:48.779 this story. 1941 01:50:49.159 --> 01:50:51.600 Ramsey, you dork. You let the guy blow hot air 1942 01:50:51.659 --> 01:50:53.159 on your platform. 1943 01:50:54.720 --> 01:50:55.939 I have concluded. 1944 01:50:55.960 --> 01:51:00.659 And listen, here's what I'll say. And this is very important. 1945 01:51:00.930 --> 01:51:05.310 Like as a show host, I only have just under 25,000 1946 01:51:05.310 --> 01:51:09.289 subscribers and I protect my platform and the integrity of 1947 01:51:09.329 --> 01:51:13.600 my platform and the ethics of my platform by I 1948 01:51:13.739 --> 01:51:17.319 really take that seriously. How does this guy have 600,000 1949 01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:20.079 subscribers and he just doesn't care that he's going to 1950 01:51:20.119 --> 01:51:23.729 put a fake doctor on to blow hot air that 1951 01:51:24.119 --> 01:51:27.090 lied about even owning a dog? You can't do the 1952 01:51:27.130 --> 01:51:31.789 most basic research. His education is completely and totally fake. 1953 01:51:31.810 --> 01:51:35.189 His work history is fake. There's a multitude of witnesses 1954 01:51:35.250 --> 01:51:37.890 that came out and talked about how fake this guy is, 1955 01:51:38.229 --> 01:51:41.369 including his own family members. And you're just going to 1956 01:51:41.569 --> 01:51:46.369 let him on your 600,000 platform? But again, it's all 1957 01:51:46.409 --> 01:51:50.500 about money. This is the way. This is the way 1958 01:51:50.560 --> 01:51:54.619 he sneaked this as his guests. Maybe. I haven't heard 1959 01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:59.489 of sneak this, right? If he'd done that, he'd only 1960 01:51:59.529 --> 01:52:03.539 have 25,000 subscribers. Yeah, the truth text. You... You can 1961 01:52:03.560 --> 01:52:05.850 get lots more subscribers if you're just willing to lie 1962 01:52:05.859 --> 01:52:08.710 to people in every video. And from what I'm looking 1963 01:52:08.829 --> 01:52:11.890 at here, Chris Ramsey basically just lies and plays along 1964 01:52:11.930 --> 01:52:17.890 with scammy grifters and hoaxers in every video. Right? It's 1965 01:52:18.050 --> 01:52:20.350 something else, man. It's something else. 1966 01:52:21.529 --> 01:52:28.880 He was protecting me. Something in the scenario, Freddie, Susie 1967 01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:31.119 saw as an enemy. 1968 01:52:31.220 --> 01:52:31.619 That's right. 1969 01:52:32.060 --> 01:52:35.319 Yeah, a threat. And she was protecting me from that. 1970 01:52:35.880 --> 01:52:37.159 And probably as it went. 1971 01:52:37.319 --> 01:52:40.140 Then he bashed the alien skull in with a bat! Oh, 1972 01:52:40.279 --> 01:52:41.539 I'm sorry, with a big stick. 1973 01:52:42.140 --> 01:52:46.579 On very quickly, escalating. Then she knew for sure it 1974 01:52:46.619 --> 01:52:51.300 was a threat. And her whole issue of being involved. 1975 01:52:51.899 --> 01:52:55.199 Let's hear him talk about the craft that was held 1976 01:52:55.279 --> 01:52:58.260 up with a Super X levitation device. And this magician, 1977 01:52:58.300 --> 01:53:00.199 Chris Ramsey, is going to pretend he doesn't know what 1978 01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:02.369 that is. because he's playing along. 1979 01:53:02.529 --> 01:53:05.050 I say they were like six, eight feet high, fern, 1980 01:53:06.050 --> 01:53:11.979 evergreen tree. There were probably five of them between me 1981 01:53:13.020 --> 01:53:18.319 and this thing that was about 75 feet away. And 1982 01:53:18.340 --> 01:53:26.189 it was a black floating marquee diamond laying on its side. 1983 01:53:27.369 --> 01:53:31.369 Yeah, that's not floating. That's called a magic trick. Very 1984 01:53:31.470 --> 01:53:35.100 easy to build something like that out of modeling plastic 1985 01:53:35.149 --> 01:53:36.739 or plywood, painted black. 1986 01:53:36.840 --> 01:53:38.779 It was 10 to 12 feet long, two and a 1987 01:53:38.800 --> 01:53:41.119 half feet high, and about three and a half feet wide. 1988 01:53:41.119 --> 01:53:43.979 10 to 12 feet long. Did you see how big 1989 01:53:44.020 --> 01:53:46.439 that alien was? The alien looked to be about six 1990 01:53:46.479 --> 01:53:51.409 feet tall, right? A six foot tall alien is fitting 1991 01:53:51.810 --> 01:53:56.439 easily in this sleek, slender, 12 foot long Okay, if 1992 01:53:56.479 --> 01:53:57.100 you say so. 1993 01:53:57.260 -->

01:54:02.550 I stumbled, fell, stumbled, fell, going toward this thing. And 1994 01:54:02.590 --> 01:54:04.430 it's in a valley. It was kind of in a 1995 01:54:04.470 --> 01:54:08.850 little valley, you know, like a four-foot valley of ferns. 1996 01:54:09.470 --> 01:54:12.350 Very nice of Chris Ramsey to do some artist renderings 1997 01:54:12.430 --> 01:54:13.529 and help him sell the hoax. 1998 01:54:13.569 --> 01:54:17.310 The ferns were all even, but the ground wasn't. So 1999 01:54:17.350 --> 01:54:20.170 when I got up to it, I actually slipped and 2000 01:54:20.289 --> 01:54:21.430 fell underneath it. 2001 01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:24.470 And there he is carrying a full-size VHS camcorder in 2002 01:54:24.510 --> 01:54:26.689 the middle of the woods that his family says he 2003 01:54:26.729 --> 01:54:29.029 never hiked or went camping or anything like that. He 2004 01:54:29.069 --> 01:54:30.689 wouldn't do any outdoorsy stuff. 2005 01:54:31.390 --> 01:54:35.810 And put my hand on it to stop myself from falling. 2006 01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:41.460 And I burned the entire pad off my hand, just 2007 01:54:41.500 --> 01:54:43.340 like I was putting it on dry ice. 2008 01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:46.300 Wow. Did you go to the hospital? Can we see 2009 01:54:46.319 --> 01:54:47.699 the medical records? Of course not. 2010 01:54:47.770 --> 01:54:49.949 It was so cold. It just pulled the skin right 2011 01:54:49.989 --> 01:54:52.800 off my hand. And I got up and I stood 2012 01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:56.140 there and I pushed it. And for a second, for 2013 01:54:56.180 --> 01:55:00.989 a brief, brief second, I felt like I'm inside of something. 2014 01:55:01.250 --> 01:55:05.409 I'm inside of something. A big, black, dark room, like 2015 01:55:05.449 --> 01:55:08.289 an airplane hangar. And way off in the distance. 2016 01:55:08.630 --> 01:55:10.850 Oh, it's the Doctor Who effect. It was bigger on 2017 01:55:10.869 --> 01:55:12.189 the inside than the outside. 2018 01:55:12.340 --> 01:55:15.840 I see little lights. And I thought it's either an 2019 01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:21.010 airplane hangar or I'm outside looking across water. We're going 2020 01:55:21.020 --> 01:55:21.409 to keep. 2021 01:55:21.310 --> 01:55:25.390 Fast forwarding it. So Chris Ramsey doesn't call him on 2022 01:55:25.430 --> 01:55:29.069 the on the bullshit fake magic trick of a floating 2023 01:55:29.189 --> 01:55:30.369 ship in the middle of the woods. 2024 01:55:31.029 --> 01:55:35.130 Composed of, you know, all these expatriates and other people 2025 01:55:35.170 --> 01:55:43.409 who are really smart, especially in geometry and tech stuff. Said, oh, 2026 01:55:43.489 --> 01:55:45.250 we can figure out exactly how big it is. You 2027 01:55:45.289 --> 01:55:49.760 have pictures, beautiful pictures. He says, you stood in that alley. 2028 01:55:50.079 --> 01:55:52.579 Yeah, it does look like it's floating, doesn't it? The 2029 01:55:52.640 --> 01:55:55.979 super X levitation is a classic

magic trick. And that's 2030 01:55:56.020 --> 01:55:56.960 how this guy did it. 2031 01:55:57.039 --> 01:55:58.699 In that exact space. 2032 01:55:59.649 --> 01:56:02.609 I could recreate this. And by the way, the television 2033 01:56:02.649 --> 01:56:05.810 show Factor Fiction recreated this 100%. 2034 01:56:05.810 --> 01:56:08.949 Took a picture of you. Well, we'll just take the 2035 01:56:08.989 --> 01:56:13.439 height of you and turn it sideways. And put it 2036 01:56:13.560 --> 01:56:14.489 up next to the.... 2037 01:56:16.439 --> 01:56:26.170 No critical questions. Let's back it up a little bit. 2038 01:56:26.250 --> 01:56:30.149 In the viewfinder. And that made me mad, of course, 2039 01:56:30.229 --> 01:56:33.409 but then I got farther away and took some very, 2040 01:56:33.470 --> 01:56:36.270 very clear shots of it, like in this valley. 2041 01:56:36.630 --> 01:56:39.229 It just so happened to have a VHS camcorder on 2042 01:56:39.300 --> 01:56:42.260 him and a high-quality 35mm camera. 2043 01:56:43.260 --> 01:56:45.500 Wow. And at that point, I'm 100 feet away. 2044 01:56:47.180 --> 01:56:48.819 Do you still have the negatives? 2045 01:56:50.260 --> 01:56:50.979 I have some. 2046 01:56:51.300 --> 01:56:52.100 You have some negatives? 2047 01:56:52.260 --> 01:56:52.520 Yes. 2048 01:56:52.800 --> 01:56:53.539 From your 35 mil? 2049 01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:54.140 Yes. 2050 01:56:54.939 --> 01:56:56.699 And do you still have the original tape? 2051 01:56:58.029 --> 01:56:58.250 No. 2052 01:56:58.630 --> 01:57:00.069 Okay. That's been confiscated? 2053 01:57:00.369 --> 01:57:00.590 Yes. 2054 01:57:00.970 --> 01:57:01.390 Stolen. 2055 01:57:01.989 --> 01:57:03.369 The government stole it from them. 2056 01:57:03.430 --> 01:57:05.729 But the negatives are in a safe place? 2057 01:57:05.750 --> 01:57:06.649 I have some of them. 2058 01:57:06.710 --> 01:57:06.930 Yes. 2059 01:57:07.210 --> 01:57:08.050 I have some of them. 2060 01:57:09.270 --> 01:57:10.890 How come you have some of them? What happened to 2061 01:57:10.930 --> 01:57:11.210 the other? 2062 01:57:12.329 --> 01:57:15.829 Because we separated all of the evidence we had and 2063 01:57:15.909 --> 01:57:20.250 put it in different lots. And I mailed some away 2064 01:57:20.489 --> 01:57:24.260 to Canada, a friend I had in Canada early on, 2065 01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:26.500 just because we knew we were going to lose it all. 2066 01:57:27.039 --> 01:57:29.039 Because our houses had been torn apart. 2067 01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:32.279 Again, he keeps saying his house and the houses of 2068 01:57:32.319 --> 01:57:36.689 his friends were torn apart. Where's the police reports? Somebody 2069 01:57:36.729 --> 01:57:39.449 breaks in your house, you call the cops. Most people 2070 01:57:39.470 --> 01:57:41.399 will call the cops. There should be police reports he 2071 01:57:41.409 --> 01:57:44.420 can provide. But he can't provide the police reports just 2072 01:57:44.460 --> 01:57:49.600 like

he can't provide his claimed degrees or proof of 2073 01:57:49.680 --> 01:57:53.020 his claimed work history or proof that he's a child psychiatrist. 2074 01:57:53.300 --> 01:57:57.359 Laying it like a blanket, which wouldn't do anything. Mylar's 2075 01:57:57.399 --> 01:58:00.279 very thin, you know, wind would blow, he'd be gone. 2076 01:58:04.100 --> 01:58:10.479 My thought was, put it underneath the body, just you 2077 01:58:10.520 --> 01:58:12.560 know and I didn't want to touch it I did 2078 01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:14.560 not want to touch the body I didn't want to 2079 01:58:14.579 --> 01:58:16.180 get it on me I didn't want to you know 2080 01:58:16.199 --> 01:58:19.470 I know I got sad for a minute. 2081 01:58:19.829 --> 01:58:21.689 So here's him at his parents house with the. 2082 01:58:21.649 --> 01:58:24.489 Dog and I looked in the rear view mirror and 2083 01:58:24.510 --> 01:58:28.569 I could see the top of the gold silver blanket 2084 01:58:29.149 --> 01:58:33.130 and I knew something had happened. Something really was real. 2085 01:58:34.430 --> 01:58:37.090 And I started the car and I drove out of 2086 01:58:37.149 --> 01:58:41.229 that area, stopped a couple times, got out, threw up, 2087 01:58:41.729 --> 01:58:45.979 got back in, drove further. And I remembered on this 2088 01:58:46.100 --> 01:58:50.260 route back to the highway, there's an exit that says 2089 01:58:50.340 --> 01:58:54.539 Ranger Station. And I thought, Ranger Station, I got to 2090 01:58:54.579 --> 01:58:57.039 go there. I got to go there. And I, so 2091 01:58:57.079 --> 01:59:00.689 I Drove there to the ranger station, parked. I'm all excited. 2092 01:59:01.050 --> 01:59:03.550 Went up to the door, banged on the door. Nobody 2093 01:59:03.569 --> 01:59:04.090 was there. 2094 01:59:04.850 --> 01:59:07.210 Oh, isn't that convenient? There was no ranger there for 2095 01:59:07.250 --> 01:59:12.039 him to show the alien to, right? We'll continue to 2096 01:59:12.100 --> 01:59:15.859 just speed through this. And he said, great job. Chris 2097 01:59:15.920 --> 01:59:18.579 Ramsey did letting this moron talk for three hours and 2098 01:59:18.619 --> 01:59:21.840 not interjecting any of the information that we shared with 2099 01:59:21.880 --> 01:59:23.930 you tonight. And boy, do I have some doozies to 2100 01:59:23.970 --> 01:59:24.869 still share with you. 2101 01:59:24.989 --> 01:59:30.159 It's an alien. It's either extraterrestrial or extra dimensional or something, 2102 01:59:30.199 --> 01:59:35.479 but it's definitely an alien. And so, you know, now 2103 01:59:35.520 --> 01:59:37.829 the cat's out of the bag and that's all he 2104 01:59:37.869 --> 01:59:41.109 kept saying. I mean, I couldn't shut him up, you know, 2105 01:59:41.729 --> 01:59:43.710 and he got me more water and then we drank 2106 01:59:43.750 --> 01:59:48.409 the tequila and basically finished the bottle and both just 2107 01:59:48.449 --> 01:59:52.930 sat there thinking, you know, what a terrible ordeal I'm thinking. 2108 01:59:53.600 --> 01:59:55.600 And he's thinking, I don't know what to do. What 2109 01:59:55.619 --> 01:59:58.119 should we do? We need to call these people. We 2110 01:59:58.140 --> 02:00:03.039 could call the Air Force. His mind was just spitting. 2111 02:00:03.300 --> 02:00:05.500 I believe he's talking about his friend that worked at 2112 02:00:05.520 --> 02:00:08.159 the convenience store that he later pretended was a real 2113 02:00:08.220 --> 02:00:11.140 doctor that did the DNA analysis. 2114 02:00:11.880 --> 02:00:15.239 And I said, you can do that. I got to 2115 02:00:15.279 --> 02:00:18.729 calm down. I got to get out of this sickness. 2116 02:00:19.350 --> 02:00:24.609 And also, by talking about it again, I had soiled 2117 02:00:24.689 --> 02:00:25.510 myself again. 2118 02:00:26.229 --> 02:00:27.970 He shit his pants. 2119 02:00:27.989 --> 02:00:29.189 You know, I'm still sick. 2120 02:00:29.770 --> 02:00:33.779 He soiled his pants. The alien hoaxer shit his pants. 2121 02:00:34.279 --> 02:00:37.239 The alien was so scary that it made him shit 2122 02:00:37.279 --> 02:00:37.939 his pants. 2123 02:00:38.500 --> 02:00:38.800 Right? 2124 02:00:38.979 --> 02:00:42.300 Why did he shit his pants? He shit his pants 2125 02:00:42.380 --> 02:00:47.560 multiple times, Chris Ramsey. He's a pooper. Stolkenberg's dog with 2126 02:00:47.659 --> 02:00:50.380 one for the goal. The alien coming from the future. 2127 02:00:51.000 --> 02:00:54.279 Should have known to wear a helmet to avoid the blow. Ah, 2128 02:00:54.399 --> 02:00:59.470 casual time loops. Yeah, very convenient, right? Very convenient that 2129 02:00:59.510 --> 02:01:01.270 he was able to just split the skull of an 2130 02:01:01.409 --> 02:01:03.449 alien with a big stick. 2131 02:01:03.689 --> 02:01:08.710 Still really writhing in this. You know, can't breathe, can't 2132 02:01:08.770 --> 02:01:12.529 calm down. And I was doing everything I could do 2133 02:01:13.090 --> 02:01:14.789 not to go to the hospital. 2134 02:01:15.050 --> 02:01:16.069 Damn, he had mud butt. 2135 02:01:16.090 --> 02:01:19.880 I didn't want to put myself down. With the people 2136 02:01:19.939 --> 02:01:20.619 I work with. 2137 02:01:20.880 --> 02:01:21.699 Subjected to all. 2138 02:01:21.760 --> 02:01:23.439 Yeah, I just didn't want to do that. 2139 02:01:23.600 --> 02:01:26.579 He's jermaxing. He's shitting his pants like the quartering. 2140 02:01:27.520 --> 02:01:31.649 Most of the time. But that's where we were at. 2141 02:01:31.890 --> 02:01:35.010 That's the biggest lie. No way this guy's got any friends. 2142 02:01:35.449 --> 02:01:37.109 That's how that all came about. 2143 02:01:37.130 --> 02:01:40.729 At what point did you film the body? 2144 02:01:41.270 --> 02:01:41.930 The next day. 2145 02:01:41.949 --> 02:01:43.850 That was the next day. And Gary was present during 2146 02:01:43.869 --> 02:01:44.350 that filming? 2147 02:01:44.510 --> 02:01:48.210 No. The

film that you've seen is I Did Alone. 2148 02:01:49.119 --> 02:01:52.439 And why? Because Gary had left to go do something. 2149 02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:54.560 I didn't have a tripod. 2150 02:01:54.579 --> 02:01:57.199 Yeah, it looks totally real, not a dummy or anything. 2151 02:01:57.779 --> 02:01:59.640 People say, well, how did you get this shot? Because 2152 02:01:59.779 --> 02:02:01.770 both your hands are in there. And I said, well, 2153 02:02:01.810 --> 02:02:04.100 I set it on top of a box in my garage. 2154 02:02:04.189 --> 02:02:06.850 It's right there. And they said, well, what did you 2155 02:02:06.869 --> 02:02:08.329 do with the other? I said, I taped my camera. 2156 02:02:08.369 --> 02:02:09.949 Oh, this is so comical. Look at that. 2157 02:02:09.970 --> 02:02:11.069 I taped my camera to the side of. 2158 02:02:11.050 --> 02:02:14.229 My little man. It's a wireframe mannequin. That's what that is. 2159 02:02:14.250 --> 02:02:16.069 A foam wireframe mannequin. 2160 02:02:16.350 --> 02:02:21.060 That's how I did it. Not special, just I'd used 2161 02:02:21.159 --> 02:02:22.180 what was available. 2162 02:02:22.539 --> 02:02:24.619 Was it at that point that you realized that there 2163 02:02:24.640 --> 02:02:26.840 was like a chunk out of his head? 2164 02:02:26.899 --> 02:02:28.979 Yes, that was the first time I realized. 2165 02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:31.659 Yeah, Jesse Michaels, of course. 2166 02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:34.199 I turned his head and I could see it hanging there. 2167 02:02:34.220 --> 02:02:37.640 If I thought admitting to shitting my pants would help 2168 02:02:37.659 --> 02:02:41.159 legitimize my fake story, I'd admit that too. Well, there 2169 02:02:41.180 --> 02:02:41.560 you go. 2170 02:02:42.760 --> 02:02:45.390 Where we would have scalp. He didn't have any hair 2171 02:02:45.479 --> 02:02:50.439 on him. intercranial material the intercranial sack. 2172 02:02:50.140 --> 02:02:52.079 It's probably his sex doll. 2173 02:02:51.819 --> 02:02:54.890 To that which had ripped open which had not for 2174 02:02:54.989 --> 02:02:58.869 sex doll you know it's it's a water more. 2175 02:02:58.750 --> 02:03:00.449 Of the look how fake this. 2176 02:03:00.329 --> 02:03:02.829 Thing looks a great deal i think. 2177 02:03:02.630 --> 02:03:06.229 There's pins and buttons on the alien shirt. 2178 02:03:05.770 --> 02:03:09.399 I figured from earth yeah so i mean we're talking 2179 02:03:09.739 --> 02:03:15.199 quartz not just a drip yeah and I cleaned it up. 2180 02:03:15.600 --> 02:03:17.609 I cleaned them up a little bit and put it, 2181 02:03:17.939 --> 02:03:18.300 kind of. 2182 02:03:18.279 --> 02:03:20.039 Put it back in place. Whatever it takes to get 2183 02:03:20.060 --> 02:03:21.800 that bag. Sometimes you got to shit yourself to get 2184 02:03:21.819 --> 02:03:23.359 to the cash. 2185 02:03:23.859 --> 02:03:27.029 It kind of stayed there, you know, but as soon 2186 02:03:27.069 --> 02:03:29.369 as I'd open it up again, it would fall out and, 2187 02:03:29.489 --> 02:03:32.630 but it was attached. It was, it was attached to 2188 02:03:32.670 --> 02:03:37.489 the skin and the scalp. So finally I ended up, 2189 02:03:37.609 --> 02:03:38.609 I know this, I've. 2190 02:03:38.470 --> 02:03:41.050 Seen better special effects from children's. 2191 02:03:40.630 --> 02:03:43.380 Videos, took a piece of duct tape and taped it 2192 02:03:43.489 --> 02:03:44.020 to his head. 2193 02:03:44.720 --> 02:03:48.119 Oh, he duct taped the alien's head back together. Nice. 2194 02:03:49.840 --> 02:03:53.319 The duct tape was right there in the garage. 2195 02:03:54.300 --> 02:03:56.100 Look at this. Here he is. He takes a picture 2196 02:03:56.140 --> 02:04:00.560 of himself in front of the University of Washington Medical Center. 2197 02:04:01.479 --> 02:04:06.899 And he said, Jonathan, I called you for a reason. 2198 02:04:06.920 --> 02:04:09.319 I said, what? I said, I was just going to 2199 02:04:09.359 --> 02:04:11.689 call you, tell you I'm not coming in. He says, 2200 02:04:11.750 --> 02:04:17.409 are you moving? Because there's guys here taking all the 2201 02:04:17.470 --> 02:04:21.130 filing cabinets and all the computers and stuff off your desk. 2202 02:04:21.989 --> 02:04:24.739 By the way, University of Washington has no record of 2203 02:04:24.800 --> 02:04:27.779 him ever being employed there by either his fake name 2204 02:04:27.979 --> 02:04:32.359 or his real legal name. And they deny his entire story. 2205 02:04:32.399 --> 02:04:35.399 And they said, you're moving. And he says, you didn't 2206 02:04:35.439 --> 02:04:38.909 tell me anything about that. And I said, I'm not moving. 2207 02:04:39.390 --> 02:04:44.449 He said, these guys got paperwork from the administration, from 2208 02:04:44.489 --> 02:04:47.600 the hospital, saying that they're authorized to take this. 2209 02:04:47.840 --> 02:04:50.119 He never worked there. 2210 02:04:50.779 --> 02:04:51.319 They knew me. 2211 02:04:51.680 --> 02:04:51.939 Sure. 2212 02:04:52.500 --> 02:04:56.600 And they couldn't find anything. 2213 02:04:56.760 --> 02:04:56.979 Okay. 2214 02:04:57.460 --> 02:04:57.760 Okay. 2215 02:04:58.180 --> 02:05:04.659 Do I think I have been imprinted, implanted something in 2216 02:05:04.720 --> 02:05:05.340 my head? 2217 02:05:06.060 --> 02:05:06.319 Yes. 2218 02:05:07.140 --> 02:05:10.739 I think he got butt probed personally. Maybe that explains 2219 02:05:10.800 --> 02:05:12.000 why he kept shitting himself. 2220 02:05:12.640 --> 02:05:13.659 Like a download, you mean? 2221 02:05:13.819 --> 02:05:14.100 Yes. 2222 02:05:14.359 --> 02:05:17.720 He said he soiled himself multiple times. Look, after a 2223 02:05:18.000 --> 02:05:23.140 big alien butt gangbang, you might soil yourself. 2224 02:05:23.159 --> 02:05:25.970 I don't know if you'd call it download or upload. 2225 02:05:26.329 --> 02:05:33.210 But yes. And the reason is when I was sitting 2226 02:05:33.310 --> 02:05:34.149 across

the table. 2227 02:05:34.350 --> 02:05:36.250 Let's go to the alien armband. 2228 02:05:37.149 --> 02:05:43.569 Provide. He allegedly goes to this Canadian production studio in 2229 02:05:43.590 --> 02:05:47.079 front of a live studio audience, 200 people in attendance, which, 2230 02:05:47.159 --> 02:05:49.479 by the way, isn't a small studio. That would be 2231 02:05:49.560 --> 02:05:51.819 something akin to perhaps like The Price is Right. 2232 02:05:52.100 --> 02:05:55.319 Yes, this is when he claims he teleported on national 2233 02:05:55.779 --> 02:05:59.920 Mexican television, but nobody, there's no witnesses to this event. 2234 02:06:01.840 --> 02:06:06.500 Anyways, on TV, he puts on the bracelet and goes 2235 02:06:06.539 --> 02:06:10.859 into some type of painful trance, it seems, and turns 2236 02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:15.000 into an orb, flies away, and after a few glitches, 2237 02:06:15.159 --> 02:06:19.020 flies back and comes back. The footage is questionable. 2238 02:06:19.739 --> 02:06:22.890 Questionable? Why don't you tell everybody that he stole the 2239 02:06:22.949 --> 02:06:26.510 sound effect in that video from the film Eyes Wide Shut? 2240 02:06:28.289 --> 02:06:29.710 At best. 2241 02:06:30.270 --> 02:06:32.189 It's this part of the story for me and for 2242 02:06:32.210 --> 02:06:36.909 many others where my conviction level lowers dramatically. Why would 2243 02:06:37.270 --> 02:06:39.930 he just make that up if he had real alien 2244 02:06:39.970 --> 02:06:44.460 footage to begin with? Is he just looking for attention? 2245 02:06:44.560 --> 02:06:46.819 Is he trying to sell a book? I don't know. 2246 02:06:47.079 --> 02:06:50.060 So it turns out that Chris Ramsey made a replica 2247 02:06:50.119 --> 02:06:52.500 of his fake alien artifact and then he hung it 2248 02:06:52.539 --> 02:06:54.479 with a piece of invisible thread. Great. 2249 02:06:54.899 --> 02:06:56.380 But when you speak to him, you can tell how 2250 02:06:56.460 --> 02:06:59.279 passionate he is about this piece of technology. And he 2251 02:06:59.310 --> 02:07:01.739 alleges that It's hidden in a safe place and he 2252 02:07:01.779 --> 02:07:03.289 doesn't even know where it is because that would be 2253 02:07:03.329 --> 02:07:05.130 a danger to his own safety. Let me know what 2254 02:07:05.149 --> 02:07:06.949 you guys make of this because this is the part 2255 02:07:06.970 --> 02:07:09.850 of the story where, you know, you start to lose 2256 02:07:09.869 --> 02:07:11.569 me a little bit. And on top of that, he's 2257 02:07:11.609 --> 02:07:15.520 also providing us with yet another artifact, which we'll get 2258 02:07:15.560 --> 02:07:17.619 to in a second. And this one is interesting because 2259 02:07:18.319 --> 02:07:21.699 apparently it was made with some residue metal that was 2260 02:07:21.779 --> 02:07:24.489 found at the site. I'm not completely out. I'm still 2261 02:07:24.529 --> 02:07:26.460 suspending my disbelief. 2262 02:07:26.640 --> 02:07:29.420 He's not completely out yet, guys, because he's still trying 2263 02:07:29.439 --> 02:07:31.739 to get his paycheck and the video is not over yet. 2264 02:07:31.899 --> 02:07:36.340 What the real answers here are. It is interesting. 2265 02:07:37.020 --> 02:07:38.939 But I knew when I was the first time you 2266 02:07:38.960 --> 02:07:41.359 put it on or no, you'd put it on before 2267 02:07:41.380 --> 02:07:43.279 I put I had put it on before and it 2268 02:07:43.319 --> 02:07:46.449 just popped off. I was sitting with Robert one day. 2269 02:07:47.180 --> 02:07:49.859 and explaining to him what this thing was. 2270 02:07:49.960 --> 02:07:53.180 Notice he keeps involving other people in his stories. I 2271 02:07:53.199 --> 02:07:55.300 think they try to make it more believable. Like, yeah, 2272 02:07:55.340 --> 02:07:57.779 I was sitting with Robert when I teleported for the 2273 02:07:57.800 --> 02:07:58.560 first time, right? 2274 02:08:00.359 --> 02:08:02.739 Well, I took it out of the can, set it 2275 02:08:02.819 --> 02:08:05.340 on the table. He looked at it, you know, he 2276 02:08:05.359 --> 02:08:09.149 held it, he set it back down and I just 2277 02:08:09.470 --> 02:08:11.390 reached for it, picked it up, put it on my 2278 02:08:11.529 --> 02:08:15.210 arm and it closed tight. And when it closes, you 2279 02:08:15.289 --> 02:08:21.289 can't get it off. I mean, it's, it's, Unremovable. And 2280 02:08:22.130 --> 02:08:24.430 it hurts. It's got big needles in the end of 2281 02:08:24.510 --> 02:08:27.189 it that penetrate your skin and into your nerves. 2282 02:08:27.210 --> 02:08:27.970 This is so stupid. 2283 02:08:28.029 --> 02:08:30.170 And the second that goes in your nerve, boy, you 2284 02:08:30.229 --> 02:08:32.850 know it. I mean, I don't know if you've ever 2285 02:08:32.909 --> 02:08:36.409 had anything like a hypodermic needle shoved in your arm, 2286 02:08:36.439 --> 02:08:39.140 but you know, it hurts 10 times more than that. 2287 02:08:39.699 --> 02:08:40.560 And then all of a sudden. 2288 02:08:40.579 --> 02:08:43.979 And again, just so everybody is clear that the video 2289 02:08:44.020 --> 02:08:47.859 that goes around of him on Mexican television, nobody can 2290 02:08:47.920 --> 02:08:52.310 find that video. in the Mexican archives. Right. So he 2291 02:08:52.390 --> 02:08:54.789 faked the video and said that he did that on 2292 02:08:54.829 --> 02:08:57.970 national television in front of 200 witnesses. Can we talk 2293 02:08:57.989 --> 02:09:03.170 to the 200 witnesses of, of course not. Let's get 2294 02:09:03.229 --> 02:09:06.609 to the end of this. I I'm done with this. 2295 02:09:07.439 --> 02:09:13.239 It's not the exact path, both directions. Um, But it 2296 02:09:13.399 --> 02:09:16.229 is what I remember. I mean, I did it. I 2297 02:09:16.310 --> 02:09:18.569 sit there and I was talking and I put it 2298 02:09:18.750 --> 02:09:21.750 on and it closed. And you can see me grimace 2299 02:09:21.890

--> 02:09:23.729 when it starts to activate. 2300 02:09:24.470 --> 02:09:25.670 This is so stupid. 2301 02:09:26.989 --> 02:09:31.569 It's pretty amazing. I had never seen it. Anyway, so 2302 02:09:32.529 --> 02:09:35.890 I talked to the producer guy, the guy I knew, 2303 02:09:35.909 --> 02:09:40.470 the number I had. He then informed me that his 2304 02:09:40.569 --> 02:09:41.449 wife was murdered. 2305 02:09:41.869 --> 02:09:42.369 Yes. 2306 02:09:44.180 --> 02:09:45.579 And he said, I don't want to be a part 2307 02:09:45.619 --> 02:09:49.189 of this. And he said, I'm sorry I ever met you. 2308 02:09:49.229 --> 02:09:52.930 The producer from the Mexican television show's wife was murdered. 2309 02:09:53.609 --> 02:09:57.289 Come on, Reed, Rudder, whatever your name is. 2310 02:09:57.350 --> 02:09:58.069 I'm sorry I ever. 2311 02:09:58.109 --> 02:10:01.760 Remember, he said 14 people were murdered because of his story. 2312 02:10:02.279 --> 02:10:06.779 You know, I totally understood what he felt like. Because 2313 02:10:06.800 --> 02:10:09.859 how would you feel? You know, how would you feel 2314 02:10:09.920 --> 02:10:12.590 if this happened to you? You know, you'd go down 2315 02:10:12.649 --> 02:10:14.930 all those avenues saying, OK, I'm going to call the police. 2316 02:10:14.989 --> 02:10:16.310 I'm going to turn you in. I'm going to do 2317 02:10:16.409 --> 02:10:19.149 this thing because that's what I need to do. I said, 2318 02:10:19.210 --> 02:10:23.399 do what you got to do. But, you know, what 2319 02:10:23.409 --> 02:10:25.560 do you do when this stuff keeps happening? 2320 02:10:25.939 --> 02:10:29.119 Let's go to the new artifact. This is something he 2321 02:10:29.180 --> 02:10:31.979 never mentioned in all of his previous stories. But now 2322 02:10:32.020 --> 02:10:33.800 he's got a new alien artifact. 2323 02:10:33.979 --> 02:10:37.319 That was really a neat design. I had seen that. 2324 02:10:38.170 --> 02:10:40.550 And I thought, okay, well, I could just make it 2325 02:10:40.649 --> 02:10:43.489 look like that. And that's what we did. 2326 02:10:43.770 --> 02:10:44.489 That's pretty cool. 2327 02:10:44.630 --> 02:10:46.840 So he made this ring out of alien metals. 2328 02:10:47.850 --> 02:10:48.479 I mean, this is. 2329 02:10:49.199 --> 02:10:51.819 It's rough on the inside so that it doesn't slide 2330 02:10:51.859 --> 02:10:53.779 around when it's on your finger. 2331 02:10:53.800 --> 02:10:59.180 I wouldn't fit me. I got big fingers. This is amazing. 2332 02:10:59.380 --> 02:11:00.779 Can we get some footage of this after? 2333 02:11:01.180 --> 02:11:01.439 Sure. 2334 02:11:01.460 --> 02:11:05.399 Yeah. This is amazing. He probably bought it on Amazon, 2335 02:11:05.500 --> 02:11:06.119 Chris Ramsey. 2336 02:11:06.159 --> 02:11:07.859 This is the first time he's ever. 2337 02:11:08.699 --> 02:11:10.680 It's the first time I've ever really talked about it 2338 02:11:10.760 --> 02:11:11.319 in public. 2339 02:11:11.579

--> 02:11:13.180 Does it make you nervous to talk about it? 2340 02:11:13.380 --> 02:11:16.729 Yeah, but again, I am who I am. I've been 2341 02:11:16.770 --> 02:11:19.369 through hell. I've been through this nightmare. 2342 02:11:19.630 --> 02:11:22.470 Yeah, 14 people got murdered because of my stories and 2343 02:11:22.529 --> 02:11:25.020 me bashing an alien skull in and keeping it in 2344 02:11:25.029 --> 02:11:27.260 my freezer and bringing it back to life. 2345 02:11:27.560 --> 02:11:32.520 And I'm teleporting places with my alien artifact armband. I 2346 02:11:32.520 --> 02:11:35.659 had to tell the story. I've tried to tell this 2347 02:11:35.739 --> 02:11:39.460 to benefit other people who have either had experiences or 2348 02:11:39.539 --> 02:11:42.619 might have them in the future saying, be very careful 2349 02:11:43.260 --> 02:11:48.729 what you do once you've had this experience because it's 2350 02:11:49.090 --> 02:11:54.909 not going to turn out happy. And at this point 2351 02:11:54.970 --> 02:11:58.840 in my life, I just want people to understand I'm 2352 02:11:58.880 --> 02:12:03.260 just trying to do my best to be a good person. 2353 02:12:02.859 --> 02:12:07.180 And Well, I appreciate you and I appreciate your time 2354 02:12:07.220 --> 02:12:10.680 that you've given me today and that you've given everyone listening. 2355 02:12:10.699 --> 02:12:12.899 You know, this is a. 2356 02:12:13.770 --> 02:12:16.069 Yeah, he definitely appreciates your time because he's going to 2357 02:12:16.090 --> 02:12:18.829 make thousands of dollars off of your fake as shit 2358 02:12:18.869 --> 02:12:22.069 story with your fake as shit alien artifacts and your 2359 02:12:22.170 --> 02:12:25.409 fake as shit claims that 14 people got murdered and 2360 02:12:25.449 --> 02:12:27.970 people are breaking in your house and all this stuff. 2361 02:12:28.390 --> 02:12:30.170 And your fake as shit claims that you were on 2362 02:12:30.189 --> 02:12:32.210 the run from the government while you were hanging out 2363 02:12:32.250 --> 02:12:34.170 with your family and they've confirmed that. 2364 02:12:34.600 --> 02:12:37.579 One of the wildest stories I think anyone will ever 2365 02:12:37.640 --> 02:12:42.630 come across. This is, there's so much here. There's so 2366 02:12:42.689 --> 02:12:46.569 much to absorb and to contemplate. 2367 02:12:47.329 --> 02:12:48.649 What else do you want to talk about? 2368 02:12:49.050 --> 02:12:49.810 I mean. 2369 02:12:50.489 --> 02:12:55.229 First of all, keep cold is interesting because it would 2370 02:12:55.270 --> 02:12:58.390 go down to zero, but it wouldn't go any lower 2371 02:12:58.430 --> 02:12:59.979 than that. It was an old freezer. 2372 02:13:00.560 --> 02:13:04.100 Oh, he froze the alien to zero degrees. And then 2373 02:13:04.140 --> 02:13:05.979 the alien mysteriously came back to life. 2374 02:13:06.039 --> 02:13:08.340 The thing I wanted to ask you about actually was 2375 02:13:08.640 --> 02:13:12.109 on the Art Bell show, you play the recording of 2376 02:13:12.149 --> 02:13:12.750 the scream. 2377 02:13:12.770 --> 02:13:14.909 So I took my camera. 2378 02:13:15.229 --> 02:13:16.510 Listen to this fake shit. 2379 02:13:16.689 --> 02:13:17.789 And I turned it on. 2380 02:13:18.710 --> 02:13:22.329 And as best I recall, because this is such an 2381 02:13:22.380 --> 02:13:25.340 old hoax, somebody tracked down the recording and it was 2382 02:13:25.460 --> 02:13:27.020 stolen from a horror movie. 2383 02:13:27.449 --> 02:13:30.630 And that's when I recorded this sound. 2384 02:13:31.430 --> 02:13:34.050 Would you play the sound for us once again, please? 2385 02:13:34.069 --> 02:13:34.810 Yes, I will. 2386 02:13:35.729 --> 02:13:56.149 Hold on. Okay, here it comes. Whoa, it's so realistic. 2387 02:13:56.460 --> 02:13:59.220 Which you then had analyzed by some Japanese people. 2388 02:13:59.239 --> 02:14:00.659 I went to Japan. 2389 02:14:00.739 --> 02:14:04.090 They signaled it out to be like, this is the artifact. Oh, 2390 02:14:04.100 --> 02:14:05.310 you took it with you as well. 2391 02:14:05.989 --> 02:14:09.710 And had it analyzed by some metallurgists who were part 2392 02:14:09.750 --> 02:14:12.569 of the University of Osaka. 2393 02:14:12.869 --> 02:14:15.569 You notice how many times he said he had things analyzed. 2394 02:14:15.630 --> 02:14:20.409 He's never shown any proof of any analysis. Never, never 2395 02:14:20.630 --> 02:14:24.340 once has he showed real proof of DNA analysis, real 2396 02:14:24.399 --> 02:14:30.770 proof of metallurgy. experiments or metallurgy analysis, no proof of 2397 02:14:30.930 --> 02:14:36.550 audio analysis, right? But we know 100% that he used 2398 02:14:36.689 --> 02:14:39.970 sound effects from movies in some of his fake-ass videos. 2399 02:14:42.489 --> 02:14:42.729 Yeah. 2400 02:14:42.909 --> 02:14:43.850 School. Sure. 2401 02:14:43.979 --> 02:14:45.079 Okay. 2402 02:14:45.779 --> 02:14:49.640 And they took some samples of it. 2403 02:14:50.390 --> 02:14:53.970 Either this guy's got Parkinson's or he's extremely nervous because 2404 02:14:54.369 --> 02:14:57.029 his hands have been shaking through most of this interview. 2405 02:14:57.689 --> 02:14:58.819 I don't know how they did it. 2406 02:14:59.229 --> 02:15:01.920 He's probably nervous because he's trying to reboot his scam. 2407 02:15:01.939 --> 02:15:05.750 They took like x-rays of it. 2408 02:15:05.979 --> 02:15:07.439 They like singled out the. 2409 02:15:07.739 --> 02:15:10.520 And were able to see all the layers. There were 2410 02:15:10.539 --> 02:15:11.819 like 15 layers. 2411 02:15:11.979 --> 02:15:14.560 Here comes some more bullshit with no paperwork to back 2412 02:15:14.619 --> 02:15:15.739 up what he's about to say. 2413 02:15:16.739 --> 02:15:20.939 Some of them were like living plant fibers. like the 2414 02:15:21.060 --> 02:15:25.800 inside of a leaf laying on the whole surface of 2415 02:15:26.659 -->

02:15:33.250 the thing in one layer, okay? And some of the 2416 02:15:33.289 --> 02:15:37.130 layers were less than the thickness of a hair, a 2417 02:15:37.189 --> 02:15:37.710 human hair. 2418 02:15:37.710 --> 02:15:41.289 10 microns. Well, that's a big claim, but I don't 2419 02:15:41.329 --> 02:15:42.260 see it coming, right? 2420 02:15:42.270 --> 02:15:47.810 All like a circuit board, all connected. both mechanically with 2421 02:15:48.109 --> 02:15:51.930 a circuit type board, but also with this living leaf. 2422 02:15:52.949 --> 02:15:56.229 And they were actually able to sample the leaf. And 2423 02:15:56.270 --> 02:15:59.329 there was no idea what it was from. There was no, 2424 02:16:00.750 --> 02:16:03.529 it couldn't tell you what leaf it was. 2425 02:16:03.850 --> 02:16:06.470 Were these tests ever put out there? Were they ever 2426 02:16:06.510 --> 02:16:07.350 like made public? 2427 02:16:07.850 --> 02:16:11.149 I had it all written down into English and stuff 2428 02:16:11.210 --> 02:16:12.170 and all that's gone. 2429 02:16:12.250 --> 02:16:13.210 That's been stolen. 2430 02:16:13.289 --> 02:16:15.350 Oh, the government stole the analysis. 2431 02:16:16.189 --> 02:16:16.479 Oh, yeah. 2432 02:16:16.640 --> 02:16:17.699 Osaka to like. 2433 02:16:17.779 --> 02:16:20.760 Oh, yeah. They won't talk to me. 2434 02:16:20.859 --> 02:16:21.680 They won't get back to you. 2435 02:16:22.119 --> 02:16:25.479 Oh, yeah. Because he's a whack job and a nutter. 2436 02:16:26.180 --> 02:16:28.260 And whatever was done was final. 2437 02:16:28.880 --> 02:16:29.720 How frustrating. 2438 02:16:30.420 --> 02:16:34.229 You bet. Yeah. And that's the hope that I have 2439 02:16:34.329 --> 02:16:40.790 is that people throughout this story and events realize that 2440 02:16:40.809 --> 02:16:43.290 there's more to it than just somebody finding something in 2441 02:16:43.329 --> 02:16:43.770 the woods. 2442 02:16:43.930 --> 02:16:44.229 Yeah. 2443 02:16:44.670 --> 02:16:48.670 You know, even though Contact in the Woods is an 2444 02:16:48.750 --> 02:16:52.229 important documentary, okay? Because it'll show you a side of 2445 02:16:52.350 --> 02:16:57.760 me that I wish I'd never exposed to anybody. This 2446 02:16:57.799 --> 02:17:03.840 has been overwhelming to me and almost a disaster in 2447 02:17:03.920 --> 02:17:07.959 every aspect of my life. I survived by the grace 2448 02:17:08.000 --> 02:17:11.270 of God and by my team who keep me going, 2449 02:17:11.829 --> 02:17:15.350 who prop me up and kick me in the butt 2450 02:17:15.409 --> 02:17:20.569 when I need it. It's an ongoing process. 2451 02:17:21.500 --> 02:17:22.600 Yeah, it's a process. 2452 02:17:22.639 --> 02:17:25.120 People say, well, why do you keep talking about that? 2453 02:17:25.360 --> 02:17:28.700 What else do I have? What else do I have 2454 02:17:28.739 --> 02:17:32.780 to talk about? And that it's an important thing. It's 2455 02:17:32.829 --> 02:17:37.350 a learning thing that I've

had to learn and other 2456 02:17:37.409 --> 02:17:42.430 people should learn. It's not just what you've been given. 2457 02:17:42.750 --> 02:17:46.659 It's what you do with it. And I don't mean 2458 02:17:46.700 --> 02:17:49.110 to be preaching, but, you know. 2459 02:17:49.129 --> 02:17:49.870 That's good advice. 2460 02:17:51.600 --> 02:17:53.600 Well, whether it's good or not, it's me. 2461 02:17:53.879 --> 02:17:54.899 Great advice. 2462 02:17:55.159 --> 02:17:57.500 And I salute you for taking the time. 2463 02:17:57.520 --> 02:17:58.379 Well, cheers. 2464 02:17:59.079 --> 02:18:01.120 And thank you so much. 2465 02:18:01.899 --> 02:18:03.840 At least one of them's got to be drinking vodka 2466 02:18:03.860 --> 02:18:05.180 to get through this bullshit. 2467 02:18:05.659 --> 02:18:06.930 Thank you. Thank you, Dr. 2468 02:18:06.979 --> 02:18:07.340 Reed. 2469 02:18:07.379 --> 02:18:13.069 And anybody who listens, thank you. Please consider all aspects. 2470 02:18:14.090 --> 02:18:14.569 All right, Jonathan. 2471 02:18:14.649 --> 02:18:15.110 Thank you. 2472 02:18:15.129 --> 02:18:18.049 Yeah, but Chris Ramsey doesn't show you all aspects. He 2473 02:18:18.069 --> 02:18:20.479 just shows you the, yeah, this story might be true aspect. 2474 02:18:20.510 --> 02:18:21.110 Thank you so much. 2475 02:18:21.219 --> 02:18:21.579 Thank you. 2476 02:18:24.040 --> 02:18:30.200 So listen to this hokum fucking ridiculous conclusion that he draws. 2477 02:18:30.659 --> 02:18:34.260 He gives a whole minute and 30 seconds to kind 2478 02:18:34.280 --> 02:18:37.340 of like try to absolve himself for making thousands of 2479 02:18:37.459 --> 02:18:41.549 dollars on this completely, totally fake grifter with a fake 2480 02:18:41.610 --> 02:18:44.950 education and a fake work history, even a fake dog 2481 02:18:44.989 --> 02:18:49.010 that wasn't his, right? And a fake alien dummy and 2482 02:18:49.049 --> 02:18:52.139 a fake UFO done with a magic trick. 2483 02:18:52.899 --> 02:18:55.819 Well, there you have it, folks. Murders, cover-ups, alien tech, 2484 02:18:55.879 --> 02:18:58.959 and televised teleportation. Just a few of the claims that 2485 02:18:58.979 --> 02:19:00.200 are hard to believe. 2486 02:19:00.559 --> 02:19:04.739 The teleportation was never televised, Chris Ramsey. He put it 2487 02:19:04.840 --> 02:19:05.559 out on the internet. 2488 02:19:05.729 --> 02:19:08.110 Personal level of conviction on the subject matter is always 2489 02:19:08.149 --> 02:19:11.010 pretty low to begin with, and that is no exception here. 2490 02:19:11.030 --> 02:19:14.850 Yes, Chris Ramsey's so skeptical. So skeptical he left out 2491 02:19:14.930 --> 02:19:17.209 all the facts that I've given you tonight, and I'm 2492 02:19:17.229 --> 02:19:20.170 going to give you some more that just tie a 2493 02:19:20.209 --> 02:19:23.159 bow on this complete and total pile of horseshit. 2494 02:19:24.280 --> 02:19:28.719 However, like many cases of alleged alien contact, it could 2495 02:19:28.760 --> 02:19:33.420 be argued that the initial counter was real. and that 2496 02:19:33.479 --> 02:19:37.440 perhaps the later experiences might be made up or confabulated 2497 02:19:37.520 --> 02:19:40.700 or built upon. In fact, although still low, my conviction 2498 02:19:40.719 --> 02:19:43.139 of the documented video is slightly higher than it was 2499 02:19:43.200 --> 02:19:46.750 before this interview, only because of his ability to succinctly 2500 02:19:46.870 --> 02:19:49.750 answer very specific questions in a timely manner. 2501 02:19:50.209 --> 02:19:53.969 Oh, he answered questions. So my level of conviction about 2502 02:19:54.010 --> 02:19:57.069 the videos being real has gone up. What about all 2503 02:19:57.090 --> 02:20:00.569 the facts and evidence that Prove that this guy is 2504 02:20:00.610 --> 02:20:03.329 a complete and total pathological liar, Chris Ramsey. 2505 02:20:03.370 --> 02:20:06.750 His body language and recall seem to be that of 2506 02:20:06.790 --> 02:20:09.250 someone who believes, at least, what they're saying. 2507 02:20:10.989 --> 02:20:13.770 Yeah, pathological liars often are very convincing. 2508 02:20:13.790 --> 02:20:17.600 When it comes to ongoing alien contact, the gadget, the teleportation, 2509 02:20:17.659 --> 02:20:20.920 or even the ring made from an alleged alien material, 2510 02:20:21.799 --> 02:20:25.319 my conviction level remains, well, pretty low. 2511 02:20:25.930 --> 02:20:27.379 Looks like a normal ring to me. 2512 02:20:27.399 --> 02:20:29.280 That being said, I do appreciate his time and I 2513 02:20:29.319 --> 02:20:30.540 would encourage anyone. 2514 02:20:30.620 --> 02:20:34.239 Yeah, Chris Ramsey definitely appreciates his time because he made 2515 02:20:34.319 --> 02:20:37.719 thousands of dollars off of sitting there like a moron 2516 02:20:37.799 --> 02:20:40.440 pretending that a fake doctor is not a fake doctor. 2517 02:20:40.459 --> 02:20:43.549 Great. To check out the documentary that I've linked. 2518 02:20:43.569 --> 02:20:46.489 Yeah, so he gets to promote his documentary to your 2519 02:20:46.549 --> 02:20:50.510 huge audience, right? Get some more people scammed by this guy. 2520 02:20:50.850 --> 02:20:53.659 He hasn't scammed enough people with his fakery and his 2521 02:20:53.739 --> 02:20:56.139 fraud and his grifting, Chris Ramsey. 2522 02:20:56.719 --> 02:20:58.620 And now the question that I will leave with you is, 2523 02:20:59.940 --> 02:21:02.760 do you throw everything out the window? Or is there 2524 02:21:02.860 --> 02:21:06.100 something in this case that strikes you as true? 2525 02:21:07.719 --> 02:21:10.819 Yeah, what a great job Chris Ramsey did. Go get 2526 02:21:10.860 --> 02:21:13.620 that money, Chris Ramsey. If money is all you care about, 2527 02:21:13.659 --> 02:21:18.379 then money is what you will have. Because it's completely 2528 02:21:18.459 --> 02:21:23.729 ridiculous that you platform this asshole, right? And one of

2529 02:21:23.750 --> 02:21:27.010 the reasons it's completely ridiculous is this sort of wrap-up. 2530 02:21:27.090 --> 02:21:31.229 This was a letter sent to the International UFO Congress 2531 02:21:31.290 --> 02:21:35.809 from Tim Haley, who's a researcher. This is to inform 2532 02:21:35.829 --> 02:21:38.600 you that I'm appalled that the International UFO Congress has 2533 02:21:38.659 --> 02:21:42.139 invited Jonathan Reed to speak at the 9th Congress to 2534 02:21:42.180 --> 02:21:46.239 be held on March 5th. Do I have that on screen? Yes, 2535 02:21:46.479 --> 02:21:50.969 just to be sure. Sorry. The following allegations from Mr. 2536 02:21:51.030 --> 02:21:54.290 Reed during his December 9th, 1999 interview on Art Bell 2537 02:21:54.329 --> 02:21:57.819 Show have been investigated. Mr. Reed claims to have admitted... 2538 02:21:58.420 --> 02:22:01.860 to graduate school at UCLA after only spending two years 2539 02:22:01.940 --> 02:22:04.700 at San Diego State University, where he obtained a teaching 2540 02:22:04.819 --> 02:22:09.469 education certificate for secondary education with a GPA of 3.0. 2541 02:22:09.469 --> 02:22:14.790 UCLA has no record of a Dr. Jonathan Reed obtaining 2542 02:22:14.850 --> 02:22:18.430 a Ph.D. at that institution, and they also don't have 2543 02:22:18.559 --> 02:22:23.530 any record of his legal name, Jonathan Rudder. UMI maintains 2544 02:22:23.590 --> 02:22:27.000 hard copy and microfilm of all PhD dissertations and does 2545 02:22:27.030 --> 02:22:31.780 not have Dr. Jonathan Reed's alleged UCLA dissertation on file. 2546 02:22:32.360 --> 02:22:35.399 Reed claims to have worked during the summer of 1979 2547 02:22:35.399 --> 02:22:39.440 with Dr. Frank Orski at John Hopkins University. Dr. Frank 2548 02:22:39.879 --> 02:22:43.989 Orski did not arrive at John Hopkins until 1985, so 2549 02:22:44.170 --> 02:22:46.690 six years after Reed claims to have worked with him there. 2550 02:22:47.450 --> 02:22:49.709 Reed claimed to be a member of of the National 2551 02:22:49.770 --> 02:22:54.790 Psychological Association, there is no National Psychological Association. Reed claims 2552 02:22:54.809 --> 02:22:56.829 to have worked at the Department of Psychology at the 2553 02:22:56.889 --> 02:23:00.610 University of Washington. Upon checking with the University of Washington 2554 02:23:00.649 --> 02:23:04.819 Medical Center, the Department of Psychology and the Department of Psychiatry, 2555 02:23:05.350 --> 02:23:08.100 it was confirmed that they have never had anyone named Dr. 2556 02:23:08.260 --> 02:23:12.440 Jonathan Reed at those departments or his legal, but it's 2557 02:23:12.620 --> 02:23:16.579 important to note that researchers checked both names. Reid claims 2558 02:23:16.649 --> 02:23:20.629 that a microbiologist by the name of Chican has analyzed 2559 02:23:20.670 --> 02:23:24.590 samples of recovered biological material from the alien Reid held 2560 02:23:24.649 --> 02:23:27.829 in his freezer. Chican claims to have received his master's 2561 02:23:27.870 --> 02:23:31.079 degree in microbiology from the Catholic University of Puerto Rico. 2562 02:23:31.659 --> 02:23:34.620 The Catholic University of Puerto Rico does not offer master's 2563 02:23:34.680 --> 02:23:38.719 degrees in microbiology. Additionally, there is no evidence to support 2564 02:23:38.739 --> 02:23:41.520 the claims made by Jonathan Reid unless Mr. Reid can 2565 02:23:41.540 --> 02:23:45.600 provide any reasonable corroborating evidence to support his biography and 2566 02:23:45.639 --> 02:23:50.139 that of his colleague, Chakan. Again, that Chakan person worked 2567 02:23:50.219 --> 02:23:53.180 at his local convenience store. He should be removed from 2568 02:23:53.200 --> 02:23:55.670 your program. I would think that the UFO Congress would 2569 02:23:55.680 --> 02:23:58.809 hold standards for their speakers and a minimum require the 2570 02:23:58.850 --> 02:24:04.829 speaker's biography to be validated before issuing an invitation to speak. Otherwise, 2571 02:24:04.870 --> 02:24:07.899 your reputation will suffer. You do an injustice to the 2572 02:24:07.930 --> 02:24:11.120 field of ufology and you insult the other speakers who 2573 02:24:11.159 --> 02:24:16.049 have worked for so hard for their reputations. Tim Haley, Ph.D. 2574 02:24:17.010 --> 02:24:20.870 So there's all of his work history and claimed educational 2575 02:24:20.889 --> 02:24:24.690 history torn apart and destroyed. Great job, though, Chris Ramsey, 2576 02:24:24.729 --> 02:24:27.049 telling your audience that he's a fake doctor with a 2577 02:24:27.090 --> 02:24:30.520 fake education and a fake work history. Ken Smith, this 2578 02:24:30.559 --> 02:24:33.799 was all a clever publicity stunt for his jewelry company. 2579 02:24:34.239 --> 02:24:37.540 You too can own your own alien metal ring. Yeah, 2580 02:24:37.559 --> 02:24:40.620 it looks like a $ 5 ring you buy at a 2581 02:24:40.719 --> 02:24:43.930 flea market, right? Or is it just me? Is it 2582 02:24:43.950 --> 02:24:45.950 just me or did that look like a piece of shit? 2583 02:24:46.190 --> 02:24:46.530 Right? 2584 02:24:46.889 --> 02:24:52.479 All right. We're going to thank you for your kindness, generosity, 2585 02:24:52.559 --> 02:24:54.659 and support of the show, Ken Smith. And we'll check 2586 02:24:54.719 --> 02:24:58.219 back in with the Kik chat. Skybull Slam Pig just 2587 02:24:58.260 --> 02:25:02.659 followed the YouTube channel. Badass Baboon just followed the YouTube channel. 2588 02:25:03.299 --> 02:25:06.000 Thank you for the follows. Follow us on Kik.com forward 2589 02:25:06.020 --> 02:25:08.879 slash Truthseeker Show. I'll give you a big shout out 2590 02:25:08.940 --> 02:25:12.280 and thank you. And I just want to do one 2591 02:25:12.319 --> 02:25:21.030 more thing. because one moment here. Yeah, I think we've 2592 02:25:21.170 --> 02:25:27.889 pretty much covered it, right? There's so much more that 2593

02:25:27.930 --> 02:25:29.889 I could go through, but I think we've done our 2594 02:25:29.930 --> 02:25:34.420 due diligence. Y'all don't forget that we are watching Spooky's 2595 02:25:34.479 --> 02:25:37.959 documentary Saturday night. Thank you for reminding me. I will 2596 02:25:38.000 --> 02:25:43.000 go over there and properly promote that. So, at risk 2597 02:25:43.040 --> 02:25:46.899 of more fake copyright claims, by the way, Corey Good 2598 02:25:46.959 --> 02:25:54.239 is a fucking moron. Corey Good, uh... Well, first, let 2599 02:25:54.260 --> 02:25:56.879 me show you this. I'm not going to play the video. 2600 02:25:56.920 --> 02:25:59.899 You might copyright claim me. Or, you know what, I'm 2601 02:25:59.920 --> 02:26:02.979 not even going to... Corey filed a fake copyright against 2602 02:26:03.020 --> 02:26:06.329 the comedic parody of a music video. Corey, who apparently 2603 02:26:06.409 --> 02:26:09.229 owns a media company, knows that comedic parodies are fair use. 2604 02:26:09.780 --> 02:26:12.760 He filed copyright strikes to get that music video taken 2605 02:26:12.799 --> 02:26:18.840 off of YouTube anyway. And then what else do we have? Oh, 2606 02:26:18.899 --> 02:26:22.590 we have this to share. I can share this. Corey 2607 02:26:22.649 --> 02:26:26.170 Goode continues to file fake copyright claims against me. In 2608 02:26:26.209 --> 02:26:29.549 my opinion, he's doing that to harass the journalist that 2609 02:26:29.610 --> 02:26:38.049 exposed his scam, his stupid secret space scam. We exposed it. 2610 02:26:38.440 --> 02:26:41.719 All is fake. And he's been harassing me ever since 2611 02:26:41.760 --> 02:26:44.200 with these fake copyright claims and making me do all 2612 02:26:44.219 --> 02:26:47.700 this paperwork because he's an intellectual weakling and a coward. 2613 02:26:48.959 --> 02:26:53.479 This is from Twitter. He filed DMCA takedowns to get 2614 02:26:53.579 --> 02:26:56.600 tweets of mine taken down. This is from Twitter. Hello, 2615 02:26:56.620 --> 02:26:59.159 we're writing to let you know that we've ceased withholding 2616 02:26:59.180 --> 02:27:01.889 the material located at these three links. You can follow 2617 02:27:01.909 --> 02:27:03.649 me on X and you can see what he took down. 2618 02:27:04.409 --> 02:27:07.809 This happened after receiving your DMCA counter notice, which we 2619 02:27:07.870 --> 02:27:10.870 forwarded to the original reporters. If you've already deleted the 2620 02:27:10.909 --> 02:27:15.059 material and your counter notification, the content won't be reinstated. 2621 02:27:15.379 --> 02:27:19.920 So Corey Good filed fake copyright claims to get my 2622 02:27:20.079 --> 02:27:23.879 tweets taken down, which contained the deposition. He doesn't want 2623 02:27:23.920 --> 02:27:27.110 people to see it. And we're going to show you this. 2624 02:27:27.750 --> 02:27:31.629 This Saturday night, Halloween night, 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, 2625 02:27:31.649 --> 02:27:35.569

we're holding a very special premiere of a great documentary, 2626 02:27:35.670 --> 02:27:39.709 one of the best documentaries documenting The spectacular felting and 2627 02:27:39.790 --> 02:27:43.030 downfall of a Cosmic Con grifter. That would be one 2628 02:27:43.110 --> 02:27:46.739 Corey Goode. The documentary is called Dark Alliance, the Inside 2629 02:27:46.799 --> 02:27:49.280 Story of the Cosmic Con. My thanks to Darcy Weir 2630 02:27:49.340 --> 02:27:51.879 and to Spooky for allowing us to host it on 2631 02:27:51.920 --> 02:27:54.139 our YouTube channel. It will be added to our free 2632 02:27:54.180 --> 02:27:58.879 documentaries section. And this makes me happy, friends, because I 2633 02:27:58.940 --> 02:28:05.549 want I want truth seekers to be a good thing. 2634 02:28:05.790 --> 02:28:10.030 I want truth seekers to expose the truth and to 2635 02:28:10.110 --> 02:28:14.110 be of public benefit. And I can think of no 2636 02:28:14.149 --> 02:28:16.729 better way to benefit the public than to show people 2637 02:28:17.129 --> 02:28:20.110 the spectacular downfall of a man who spent years and 2638 02:28:20.129 --> 02:28:23.709 years and years lying to people at UFO conferences, on 2639 02:28:23.729 --> 02:28:29.290 television shows, streaming sites, podcast appearances, selling courses, selling books, 2640 02:28:29.770 --> 02:28:33.500 comic books, whatever, if we show them the fakery and 2641 02:28:33.520 --> 02:28:37.340 the fraud behind Corey Goode. So this Saturday night, 9 p.m., 2642 02:28:37.700 --> 02:28:40.409 Dark Alliance, the inside story of the Cosmic Con, will 2643 02:28:40.549 --> 02:28:44.010 have its world YouTube debut. We're the only place on 2644 02:28:44.049 --> 02:28:46.110 YouTube where you'll be able to watch it. You can 2645 02:28:46.129 --> 02:28:49.049 watch it for free. Of course, it's ad supported. And 2646 02:28:49.469 --> 02:28:53.299 we thank everybody for their kindness, generosity, and support. And 2647 02:28:53.340 --> 02:28:55.819 I always say this. If you become a YouTube channel 2648 02:28:55.860 --> 02:28:58.290 member during the live broadcast, we give you a big 2649 02:28:58.350 --> 02:29:00.930 shout out and a big thank you. So thank you, Bcat11, 2650 02:29:01.409 --> 02:29:03.750 who became a YouTube channel member. Now you get a 2651 02:29:03.770 --> 02:29:06.389 snazzy member badge and get access to all of our 2652 02:29:06.450 --> 02:29:10.500 members only section. I think there's almost 100 videos in 2653 02:29:10.520 --> 02:29:13.180 the members only section, a lot of behind the scenes stuff. 2654 02:29:13.239 --> 02:29:16.520 And we thank you, Bcat, for your kindness, generosity and support. 2655 02:29:16.620 --> 02:29:20.760 Welcome new member. Let's get some more members, friends. So 2656 02:29:21.049 --> 02:29:24.680 thank you for reminding me of that, Arlene. Please come 2657 02:29:24.819 --> 02:29:27.020 and be a part of it after I'm done trick-or-treating 2658 02:29:27.040 --> 02:29:30.030 with my kids. I've got to go around the neighborhood 2659 02:29:30.069 --> 02:29:34.409 with my kids. My kids are so blessed. I live 2660 02:29:34.450 --> 02:29:38.030 in a very affluent area. When my wife and I 2661 02:29:38.069 --> 02:29:41.030 first got here, the first time we went trick-or-treating with 2662 02:29:41.049 --> 02:29:43.280 the kids, we were horrified because we just left a 2663 02:29:43.329 --> 02:29:47.920 big box of small candies with a sign like, Take one, 2664 02:29:47.959 --> 02:29:51.079 we're trick-or-treating too. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. And then we 2665 02:29:51.100 --> 02:29:53.399 found out that, like, everybody in our neighborhood gives out 2666 02:29:53.500 --> 02:29:57.799 whole candy bars, full-size candy bars. So we have to 2667 02:29:57.940 --> 02:30:02.969 up our game, right? But we thank you for your kindness, generosity, 2668 02:30:03.190 --> 02:30:06.270 and support, every one of our supporters. Please come and 2669 02:30:06.309 --> 02:30:09.870 support us for this broadcast. After I'm done trick-or-treating with 2670 02:30:09.909 --> 02:30:11.870 my kids, I'll be in the live chat. I hear 2671 02:30:11.930 --> 02:30:13.670 Spooky is going to be in the live chat to 2672 02:30:13.729 --> 02:30:17.610 answer any questions. And maybe Darcy Ware, too. I'm going 2673 02:30:17.629 --> 02:30:20.489 to invite him to come to the live chat. You 2674 02:30:20.510 --> 02:30:23.309 get to see this for free. Please come to the party, yeah. 2675 02:30:25.709 --> 02:30:29.510 And Arlene is reminding everybody the Truthseekers website for the 2676 02:30:29.649 --> 02:30:33.069 audio archives is truthseekershow.com, and you can also get all 2677 02:30:33.090 --> 02:30:36.069 the latest video, full video episodes, whether you want the 2678 02:30:36.149 --> 02:30:40.590 audio or video version of our show. It's all available, 2679 02:30:41.270 --> 02:30:44.790 all the episodes in chronological order, all of them, every 2680 02:30:44.829 --> 02:30:49.010 single one is on truthseekershow.com. And while we're on that, 2681 02:30:49.170 --> 02:30:52.260 I'm happy to report that the audio podcast is right now, 2682 02:30:52.360 --> 02:30:54.909 except for this show you're watching right now, all caught up. 2683 02:30:55.120 --> 02:30:57.379 We're all caught up on the audio podcast side. So 2684 02:30:57.420 --> 02:31:00.979 we thank you for your patience with that. It's always 2685 02:31:01.020 --> 02:31:04.260 a little bit behind. I'll take our fair use banner down. 2686 02:31:04.940 --> 02:31:08.870 And now we are going to bounce on out of here. 2687 02:31:09.149 --> 02:31:12.170 I've got a StreamYard call to get to after the show. 2688 02:31:12.819 --> 02:31:15.360 But I will be here tomorrow night, 7 p.m. Eastern 2689 02:31:15.379 --> 02:31:17.719 Standard Time. I think I may be doing a show 2690 02:31:18.059 --> 02:31:21.479 right up till Friday, every night at 7 p.m. So 2691 02:31:21.940 --> 02:31:24.299

don't be afraid to join us in our interactive live 2692 02:31:24.340 --> 02:31:28.079 chats all this week, 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. No 2693 02:31:28.159 --> 02:31:31.600 place that I would rather be than right here with 2694 02:31:31.680 --> 02:31:34.969 all of you. But that is all I got for you, friends. 2695 02:31:36.309 --> 02:31:39.270 One moment, let me get me, let's get something to 2696 02:31:39.350 --> 02:31:44.239 play us out with. One moment here. I always forget 2697 02:31:44.299 --> 02:31:48.620 where the right bumpers are, so please bear with me. Oh, 2698 02:31:48.719 --> 02:31:51.379 we got it. So that's all I got for you, friends. 2699 02:31:52.319 --> 02:31:54.819 And as far as Chris Ramsey, I would invite him 2700 02:31:54.940 --> 02:31:58.930 to go take an ethics class, maybe a college-level ethics class, 2701 02:31:58.950 --> 02:32:02.409 because what he's doing is completely and totally wrong. He's 2702 02:32:02.469 --> 02:32:07.030 playing along with proven scammers, proven fake people with proven 2703 02:32:07.129 --> 02:32:11.159 fake stories, pretending the stories, well, they might be real. 2704 02:32:11.889 --> 02:32:14.729 So that he can make a couple thousand dollars. And, 2705 02:32:14.809 --> 02:32:19.510 you know, part of me feels really, I pity Chris Ramsey. 2706 02:32:19.950 --> 02:32:22.110 Are you so hard up for the money that you're 2707 02:32:22.170 --> 02:32:25.639 willing to just sell your soul to some dickhead fake 2708 02:32:25.700 --> 02:32:28.979 doctor to make a couple thousand dollars? And hey, if 2709 02:32:29.020 --> 02:32:32.299 that's the case, you know, but there's going to be, 2710 02:32:32.700 --> 02:32:35.500 there's going to be karma. You can't get away with this, 2711 02:32:35.579 --> 02:32:38.579 Chris Ramsey. The universe is going to correct you for 2712 02:32:38.659 --> 02:32:41.360 lying to your audience, for lying to everybody on YouTube. 2713 02:32:41.750 --> 02:32:44.530 And let's be clear, a lie by omission is still 2714 02:32:44.590 --> 02:32:48.030 a lie. You interviewed this guy for three hours. You 2715 02:32:48.049 --> 02:32:50.670 couldn't bring up his fake education. You couldn't bring up 2716 02:32:50.709 --> 02:32:53.409 his fake work history. You couldn't bring up his fake 2717 02:32:53.489 --> 02:32:56.549 doctor that analyzed the samples that worked at his local 2718 02:32:56.629 --> 02:32:59.629 convenience store. You couldn't bring any of that up in 2719 02:32:59.690 --> 02:33:05.219 three plus hours. Or it's three hours. I think it's 2720 02:33:05.250 --> 02:33:10.239 three hours, just to be factually accurate. Two hours and 2721 02:33:10.239 --> 02:33:13.469 51 minutes. He couldn't bring up all this guy's fakery 2722 02:33:13.520 --> 02:33:15.989 and fraud. And what about all the evidence that even 2723 02:33:16.030 --> 02:33:19.809 his family called him a pathological liar? And his wife 2724 02:33:19.930 --> 02:33:22.430 discovered that he wasn't a real doctor and they've been 2725 02:33:22.469 --> 02:33:25.129 living a lie for 15 years. And what did the 2726 02:33:25.170 --> 02:33:27.409 guy do for income? Did he just leech off his 2727 02:33:27.489 --> 02:33:29.889 wife and pretend to be a doctor? I don't know. 2728 02:33:29.909 --> 02:33:32.290 I don't know. And what about the fact that he 2729 02:33:32.329 --> 02:33:34.729 didn't even own the Jeep he claimed to transport the 2730 02:33:34.909 --> 02:33:38.569 alien body in until a year after he claimed that 2731 02:33:38.590 --> 02:33:42.530 he used that Jeep? The whole story falls apart under scrutiny, 2732 02:33:42.549 --> 02:33:45.489 and let's not forget the stupid video of the alien 2733 02:33:45.549 --> 02:33:48.709 armband where he stole the sound effect from the movie 2734 02:33:48.850 --> 02:33:51.209 Eyes Wide Shut. And by the way, I ran an 2735 02:33:51.290 --> 02:33:55.659 audio recording studio. I checked the files. That's 100% stolen 2736 02:33:55.760 --> 02:33:59.899 from the movie Eyes Wide Shut. If he's really teleporting 2737 02:33:59.920 --> 02:34:02.620 with an alien armband, why is he stealing sound effects, 2738 02:34:03.340 --> 02:34:07.920 sound bites from Hollywood movies? This whole story is ridiculous. 2739 02:34:08.979 --> 02:34:12.260 And after the show, I'm going to add our previous coverage. 2740 02:34:12.280 --> 02:34:15.120 We covered this, I think, two other times we've covered 2741 02:34:15.139 --> 02:34:20.899 this stupid story. It's completely and totally ridiculous. And anybody 2742 02:34:20.940 --> 02:34:23.940 that platforms this guy should be ashamed of themselves if 2743 02:34:23.979 --> 02:34:26.670 they don't bring up the stuff. You sat across from 2744 02:34:26.680 --> 02:34:29.809 this guy, Chris Ramsey, like a moron for three hours 2745 02:34:29.889 --> 02:34:33.870 and you didn't know that his education was fake? Everybody 2746 02:34:33.889 --> 02:34:36.049 knows his education was fake. You didn't know his work 2747 02:34:36.090 --> 02:34:38.889 history was fake? Everybody knows his work history was fake. 2748 02:34:39.489 --> 02:34:42.370 And if he's willing to lie about being a doctor, 2749 02:34:42.750 --> 02:34:46.190 lie about being a psychiatrist, lie about where he worked, 2750 02:34:46.969 --> 02:34:49.049 why do you think he wouldn't be willing to lie 2751 02:34:49.090 --> 02:34:51.489 about this alien bullshit story of his? 2752 02:34:52.090 --> 02:34:52.350 Right? 2753 02:34:53.250 --> 02:34:56.750 Yeah, there's much better audio to steal. But anyway, folks, 2754 02:34:56.809 --> 02:34:58.819 that's all I got for you. I'll be back tomorrow night, 2755 02:34:58.819 --> 02:35:01.700 7 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Hope you'll be here with me. 2756 02:35:01.760 --> 02:35:04.319 Thank you guys for all the tremendous support tonight. But 2757 02:35:04.360 --> 02:35:06.100 that's all I got for you. Oh, we'll check in 2758 02:35:06.120 --> 02:35:09.079 with the Kick Live chat one more time. No, we're 2759 02:35:09.180 --> 02:35:13.329 all SkyBullSlamPig just followed us. That's my last notification. And 2760 02:35:13.370 --> 02:35:18.489 what a great user ID that is. SkyBullSlamPig. Slam that pig. Anyway, 2761 02:35:18.510 --> 02:35:22.940 this kick degenerates always put a smile on my face. 2762 02:35:23.459 --> 02:35:25.200 But that's all I got for you, friends. So until 2763 02:35:25.260 --> 02:35:27.340 next time, my name is Stephen Cambion. Good night and 2764 02:35:27.399 --> 02:35:28.520 God bless all of you. 2765 02:35:39.700 --> 02:35:42.219 True Seekers, exposing the truth. 2766 02:35:45.020 --> 02:35:53.079 True Seekers, coming for you. True Seekers, exposing the lies. 2767 02:35:55.690 --> 02:36:03.889 True Seekers, open your eyes. They lie again, have you 2768 02:36:03.909 --> 02:36:04.110 had enough? 2769 02:36:07.069 --> 02:36:12.649 Let go of lies. Take your second red pill. I 2770 02:36:12.709 --> 02:36:18.489 know you had, you had your fill. It's time to 2771 02:36:18.569 --> 02:36:25.250 take your second red pill. I know you had, you 2772 02:36:25.659 --> 02:36:31.540 had your fill. It's time to take your second red pill. 2773 02:36:35.969 --> 02:36:38.920 I know you've had, you've had your fill. 2774 02:36:40.479 --> 02:36:44.819 It's time to take your second red pill True seekers, 2775 02:36:45.200 --> 02:36:55.489 exposing the truth True seekers, coming for you True seekers, 2776 02:36:55.870 --> 02:37:02.629 exposing the lies True seekers, open your eyes. 2777 02:37:16.459 --> 02:37:20.120 It's time to take your second red pill. 2778 02:37:21.879 --> 02:37:25.450 I know you had, you had your fill. 2779 02:37:27.149 --> 02:37:32.819 It's time to take your second red pill. Truth Seekers, 2780 02:37:33.200 --> 02:37:43.469 exposing the truth. Truth Seekers, coming for you. Truth Seekers, 2781 02:37:43.870 --> 02:37:50.350 exposing the lies. True seekers, open your eyes.