Full Transcript for Predator Breaks Down Before Police Asked a Single Question ｜ Brien Terry Interrogation

45 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:06.900 but what's your number? What's your address? 46 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:15.150 Okay, I look forward to 34475. 47 00:02:15.569 --> 00:02:19.250 Oh, you live down the road from here? Right? 48 00:02:20.569 --> 00:02:24.189 Well, for now, I'm not trying to stay with my mom. 49 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:27.409 Oh, you live in your mom's house? I was kind 50 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:28.120 of with. 51 00:02:29.409 --> 00:02:29.729 Mom. 52 00:02:30.849 --> 00:02:32.009 Mom being a little over the back. 53 00:02:32.030 --> 00:02:35.030 It just don't sound like a summer mom. 54 00:02:35.050 --> 00:02:36.969 What do you mean? 55 00:02:38.729 --> 00:02:44.150 You know, like people's energy just change and it's like different. 56 00:02:44.530 --> 00:02:45.889 It's like that. 57 00:02:45.909 --> 00:02:48.909 My sister, she called the police on my sister one time. 58 00:02:49.629 --> 00:02:53.460 Caught in here in jail, so my sister moved out. 59 00:02:53.900 --> 00:02:57.300 I had her ex that was staying with us. She 60 00:02:57.340 --> 00:02:57.699 got it. 61 00:02:57.719 --> 00:02:59.939 She ended up getting into it with her. She just 62 00:02:59.990 --> 00:03:00.530 moved out. 63 00:03:00.610 --> 00:03:03.509 Her brother, he's supposed. 64 00:03:02.509 --> 00:03:04.050 To be moving out soon. 65 00:03:05.050 --> 00:03:07.289 I've already told my mom that I really don't want 66 00:03:07.330 --> 00:03:08.210 to stay with her. 67 00:03:09.430 --> 00:03:12.030 I honestly haven't been talking to her for the last days. 68 00:03:12.740 --> 00:03:20.919 How old is your brother? I don't know. He's an 69 00:03:20.979 --> 00:03:24.659 older brother? Yeah. Do you have any more siblings? Yeah, 70 00:03:24.689 --> 00:03:27.490 just my sister and brother. Probably big. You're the youngest one? 71 00:03:27.530 --> 00:03:27.930 Yes, sir. 72 00:03:28.430 --> 00:03:30.550 All right. Your sister's the oldest one or in the middle? Oh, 73 00:03:30.569 --> 00:03:39.900 the oldest. I know she's older than my brother. I'm 74 00:03:39.960 --> 00:03:42.659 not sure it is. I can't use it. Okay. You 75 00:03:42.699 --> 00:03:49.900 all grew up here in Ocala? I think so. We 76 00:03:49.939 --> 00:03:52.479 didn't really grow up together. I was raised by my grandmother. Okay. 77 00:03:52.900 --> 00:03:54.439 Here in Ocala or somewhere else? Ocala. 78 00:03:55.629 --> 00:03:59.490 Basically, we stayed in Spar, but everything was in Ocala, 79 00:03:59.509 --> 00:04:01.129 so we was pretty much in town all the time. 80 00:04:01.349 --> 00:04:04.389 Yeah. And you said you were raised by grandma? Yes. 81 00:04:04.830 --> 00:04:09.439 Grandma stayed with you in Spar? Yes, ma'am. Yeah. Going 82 00:04:09.469 --> 00:04:12.919 up there and moving in with grandma an option or no? No. 83 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:14.000 I actually moved. 84 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:20.819 Well, she had me, I guess, placed or whatever with 85 00:04:20.860 --> 00:04:21.360 my uncle. 86 00:04:22.389 --> 00:04:24.350 But at the time, he stayed in the Shores. 87 00:04:24.689 --> 00:04:25.009 Okay. 88 00:04:25.129 --> 00:04:29.120 But he has two sons that stay down the road, 89 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:33.240 I think about three houses down from my grandma. So 90 00:04:33.660 --> 00:04:35.259 when he would come and pick them up, he would 91 00:04:35.300 --> 00:04:37.079 just come and pick me. 92 00:04:37.060 --> 00:04:38.759 Up, too. Is this when you were a child? 93 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:39.680 Yeah, I was a. 94 00:04:39.699 --> 00:04:45.870 So you can't go live with Grandma anymore? No, she. 95 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:49.980 I was her shadow. Like, how you have a shadow? 96 00:04:50.100 --> 00:04:51.019 That was literally me. 97 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:55.269 I was her shadow. So it got to the point 98 00:04:55.290 --> 00:04:58.490 where we just, like, her and her husband, which is 99 00:04:58.550 --> 00:05:00.910 my granddad, they started arguing. 100 00:05:01.470 --> 00:05:02.410 And I seen that. 101 00:05:02.449 --> 00:05:05.269 So that's why I had no problem going up to 102 00:05:05.310 --> 00:05:07.810 my uncle because I love my granddad. 103 00:05:07.829 --> 00:05:10.610 I don't want nothing bad to happen to him. I 104 00:05:10.610 --> 00:05:13.699 don't want to stress him out. Were they arguing over you? 105 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:21.319 Seems like you care a lot about Grandma. She didn't 106 00:05:21.379 --> 00:05:23.339 raise me like this. 107 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:24.459 She didn't raise you like this? 108 00:05:28.990 --> 00:05:31.949 I was literally trying to go home. I didn't want 109 00:05:31.990 --> 00:05:33.750 to go back home. I was just trying to go home. 110 00:05:36.250 --> 00:05:36.550 Okay. 111 00:05:37.410 --> 00:05:43.860 Everything started off. I didn't say that I was just 112 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:44.660 going to go home. 113 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:46.639 And stay home. That wasn't my plan. Okay. 114 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.300 Well, hang on a second. Before we get into all that. 115 00:05:49.620 --> 00:05:52.519 Let me do this, okay, before. I do want to 116 00:05:52.860 --> 00:05:55.660 hear what you have to say, Brian, and I. 117 00:05:55.610 --> 00:05:59.810 Do want to let you know what we have going on, okay? 118 00:06:00.110 --> 00:06:01.970 But before I do that, because I am going to 119 00:06:02.009 --> 00:06:06.149 be asking some specific questions, and because you are here 120 00:06:06.170 --> 00:06:08.709 and you're not free to go right now, I'm going 121 00:06:08.730 --> 00:06:10.230 to read through the rights just so that you know 122 00:06:10.350 --> 00:06:11.490 and are aware of them, okay? 123 00:06:11.509 --> 00:06:14.139 Yes. All right. You have the right to remain silent. 124 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:16.819 Anything you say can be used against you in a 125 00:06:16.819 --> 00:06:18.800 court of law. You have the right to talk to 126 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:20.379 a lawyer and have him

present with you while you 127 00:06:20.420 --> 00:06:23.220 are being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, 128 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:25.699 one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning, 129 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.019 if you wish. You can decide at any time to 130 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.920 execute these rights and not answer any questions or make 131 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:31.680 any statements. 132 00:06:32.699 --> 00:06:35.459 Do you understand each of these rights I've explained to you? Yes. 133 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:36.199 Okay. 134 00:06:36.660 --> 00:06:38.439 Having these rights in mind, do you want to talk 135 00:06:38.459 --> 00:06:41.439 to us? Could you? Okay. I'm lying. 136 00:06:42.740 --> 00:06:45.879 I want you to get it out of your chest, man. 137 00:06:46.689 --> 00:06:50.870 I know Grandma. 138 00:06:52.050 --> 00:06:55.110 Raised a good guy. And I know we all make mistakes. 139 00:06:56.610 --> 00:06:59.850 And the best way to overcome mistakes and move forward 140 00:06:59.889 --> 00:07:02.250 from them is just to put them out there. 141 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:11.199 Okay? Just to say what we've done and move on. Okay, so... 142 00:07:11.790 --> 00:07:17.930 Wherever you want to begin, Brian. Well, once again, I 143 00:07:17.949 --> 00:07:20.589 just wanted to go home. That's all I wanted to do. 144 00:07:22.250 --> 00:07:24.660 I was getting tired. I had to go to work, 145 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:25.300 get on the road. 146 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.199 I had to ride my bike 30 fucking minutes every 147 00:07:28.300 --> 00:07:29.040 fucking morning. 148 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:32.879 I'm tired. I had to work in the fucking sun 149 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.319 for eight to nine hours. I had to ride back 150 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:37.079 home and do it all over again the next day. 151 00:07:38.350 --> 00:07:38.939 Tired, man. 152 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:39.089 Mm-hmm. 153 00:07:44.759 --> 00:07:50.339 No, you're good, man. You're good. Listen. We were made 154 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:51.620 aware of a. 155 00:07:53.180 --> 00:07:57.629 Public conversation with a young lady. And that's honestly what 156 00:07:57.670 --> 00:08:00.389 we want to talk to you about. Okay, what can 157 00:08:00.410 --> 00:08:04.430 you tell me about that? What do you want to know? 158 00:08:04.629 --> 00:08:05.009 Everything. 159 00:08:05.029 --> 00:08:07.110 Start from the beginning. How did it start? Where did 160 00:08:07.129 --> 00:08:08.069 the conversation start? 161 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:10.720 Okay. What meet me? 162 00:08:17.019 --> 00:08:19.019 I mean, it goes up as a date now, but 163 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.360 it's like, it's do live things. 164 00:08:21.620 --> 00:08:26.180 I don't know too much. All I know is, I'm just, 165 00:08:26.500 --> 00:08:29.860 her wife keeps on moving. Can you take me a 166 00:08:29.860 --> 00:08:32.019 little bit? Is it like a hookup app? Or is 167 00:08:32.100 --> 00:08:33.039 it like a Tinder? 168 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.360 I'm familiar with what Tinder is, but I'm not familiar 169 00:08:36.980 --> 00:08:37.779 with the meet me. 170 00:08:37.860 --> 00:08:39.279 Honestly, I can't honestly. 171 00:08:39.299 --> 00:08:40.539 But you said it's a dating app. 172 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:41.919 You go on there to meet people. 173 00:08:42.340 --> 00:08:44.330 Yeah, I just know if you go on an app 174 00:08:44.370 --> 00:08:46.000 store and look up date me apps, it comes up 175 00:08:46.110 --> 00:08:46.490 on there. 176 00:08:46.820 --> 00:08:47.080 Okay. 177 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:48.370 But it also comes up. 178 00:08:48.450 --> 00:08:51.129 Under all the other, like, you know, hookup apps, too. 179 00:08:51.190 --> 00:08:52.649 So I'm on the surety side, please. 180 00:08:52.669 --> 00:08:53.429 Just looking generic. 181 00:08:53.570 --> 00:08:55.750 What's the difference between a dating app and a hookup app? 182 00:08:56.470 --> 00:08:57.070 I couldn't tell you. 183 00:08:57.090 --> 00:08:58.769 It saved my life. Honestly. 184 00:08:58.870 --> 00:08:59.090 Okay. 185 00:09:00.659 --> 00:09:01.480 So you get on Meet Me. 186 00:09:02.580 --> 00:09:06.940 Honestly, it wasn't like I was, you. 187 00:09:06.700 --> 00:09:13.110 Know, trying to actually meet nobody. 188 00:09:13.149 --> 00:09:16.529 I just wanted to get out of the house. I 189 00:09:16.549 --> 00:09:18.909 said that. I said, we don't have to do anything. 190 00:09:20.870 --> 00:09:25.110 We just sit and fucking stare at each other. I'm 191 00:09:25.169 --> 00:09:27.629 cooped up in a fucking house all day, man. I 192 00:09:27.669 --> 00:09:32.690 just wanted to get out. We understand that. So, tell 193 00:09:32.730 --> 00:09:35.750 me about this girl, Brian. What do you know about her? 194 00:09:41.269 --> 00:09:45.450 I know that I originally thought that I was talking 195 00:09:45.549 --> 00:09:47.330 to I. 196 00:09:47.789 --> 00:09:57.100 Think a 38-year-old or something like that. And that's clearly 197 00:09:57.139 --> 00:10:00.750 not what it was. What do you mean? Because in 198 00:10:00.769 --> 00:10:02.730 the conversation, we started talking and. 199 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:04.340 It was like, oh, I'm f * * * ing 200 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:08.659 and I was like, are you f * * * 201 00:10:08.340 --> 00:10:09.700 ing serious? 202 00:10:10.019 --> 00:10:13.559 Like, you're a kid, but why are you even on 203 00:10:13.580 --> 00:10:14.320 the dating app? 204 00:10:14.860 --> 00:10:15.080 Yeah. 205 00:10:17.070 --> 00:10:19.509 So everything just started off and I was just trying 206 00:10:19.529 --> 00:10:20.649 to get some thoughts on this. 207 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:26.379 It just didn't make sense. Okay. So what happened after that? 208 00:10:26.419 --> 00:10:28.190 After she told you that she was f * * 209 00:10:27.909 --> 00:10:30.750 * ing you, you asked her why she was on 210 00:10:30.809 --> 00:10:35.789 a dating app? I mean, we

conversated. She kept trying 211 00:10:35.809 --> 00:10:37.250 to say, what do you want to do? What do 212 00:10:37.269 --> 00:10:38.889 you want to do? I just. 213 00:10:44.419 --> 00:10:45.600 I wasn't comfortable with. 214 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:47.720 Doing anything as long as I could get out the house. 215 00:10:49.250 --> 00:10:51.269 I didn't want to be snuck into nobody's house. I 216 00:10:51.669 --> 00:10:53.909 didn't want none of that. I just wanted to get out. 217 00:10:53.929 --> 00:11:00.950 That's it. Did you offer to sneak into her house? No. 218 00:11:02.570 --> 00:11:03.309 For what purpose? 219 00:11:06.210 --> 00:11:09.269 I mean, my purpose was, what I said, was watching 220 00:11:09.330 --> 00:11:13.600 a movie. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Just chilling. 221 00:11:19.470 --> 00:11:22.049 You know, like sexual or anything like that. It was 222 00:11:22.070 --> 00:11:24.909 just simply I just wanted to get out of the house. 223 00:11:25.289 --> 00:11:27.629 You know, just have a reason to be home. Even 224 00:11:27.690 --> 00:11:31.149 if it's for an hour or two. My room is 225 00:11:31.169 --> 00:11:32.149 smaller than this. 226 00:11:32.470 --> 00:11:32.990 My room is. 227 00:11:32.950 --> 00:11:41.509 Like probably about where your foot is. And my bed fills. 228 00:11:41.289 --> 00:11:41.889 Up most of it. 229 00:11:43.029 --> 00:11:47.070 Was there any mention of anything sexual during that conversation 230 00:11:47.110 --> 00:11:47.789 between you and her? 231 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:50.799 I mean, I did at the end because I was like, 232 00:11:53.539 --> 00:11:54.720 I mean, I'm not stupid. 233 00:11:54.820 --> 00:11:58.419 It sounds like you're trying to say something, but you 234 00:11:58.440 --> 00:11:59.230 don't want to say it. 235 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:01.460 And that's what I said. What did you say exactly? 236 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.299 I said, did you want to fuck or something? Because 237 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:07.919 it was like, I'm cool with. 238 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:11.389 Just, you know, I'm cool with just watching a fucking 239 00:12:11.409 --> 00:12:14.669 movie and just dipping down. 240 00:12:16.710 --> 00:12:17.110 That's it. 241 00:12:18.899 --> 00:12:22.679 I didn't see it as like a, like something like, 242 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.100 you know, like ongoing. 243 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:29.809 Friendship type things. I was already not comfortable in the situation, 244 00:12:29.850 --> 00:12:31.049 if you get what I mean. 245 00:12:32.970 --> 00:12:37.509 Now, besides the, you going and wanting to do the 246 00:12:37.590 --> 00:12:46.210 movie and possibly have sex, was there any mention of 247 00:12:46.289 --> 00:12:48.820 anything else that were y'all planning on doing? 248 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:55.379 So I said to smoke, but it wasn't like that. 249 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:57.779 I was also uncomfortable with that because I smoked with 250 00:12:57.820 --> 00:12:59.399 somebody and they

started tripping. 251 00:13:00.220 --> 00:13:03.340 Yeah, and acting weird. So I was like, you know, 252 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:05.259 I don't want you to trip and, you know, your 253 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.330 parents come where they found out and they're like, oh, 254 00:13:07.370 --> 00:13:10.590 what the fuck? Excuse my language. No, no, you're good, man. 255 00:13:10.950 --> 00:13:13.899 You know, and I... I mean, I don't have any 256 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:16.179 weed right now. No, no. 257 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:19.100 I still wouldn't be fully comfortable with the situation. 258 00:13:20.179 --> 00:13:22.259 And that's not our concern right now, whether you have 259 00:13:22.299 --> 00:13:25.769 weed or not. That's not what we're here for, okay? 260 00:13:26.610 --> 00:13:31.409 Don't worry about that. All right. So you met this. 261 00:13:31.529 --> 00:13:34.690 I'm just trying to recap again just how much we've 262 00:13:34.730 --> 00:13:37.830 discussed this far. You met this girl on Meet Me, 263 00:13:37.850 --> 00:13:42.769 you said. On there, you said you thought she was 38. 264 00:13:42.769 --> 00:13:45.429 I went to try to look at the profile. 265 00:13:47.309 --> 00:13:53.009 What was the name of the profile? I mean, she 266 00:13:53.029 --> 00:13:55.250 told me her name was Jamie, so I was looking 267 00:13:55.269 --> 00:14:00.840 at the name. You know what I'm saying? How about yours? 268 00:14:00.860 --> 00:14:02.259 What's your name. 269 00:14:01.860 --> 00:14:03.000 On your profile? 270 00:14:07.659 --> 00:14:16.039 I think Jamie. That's my name. I don't use my... 271 00:14:15.740 --> 00:14:17.600 I don't like my government. 272 00:14:17.220 --> 00:14:18.100 Name, so I don't use it. 273 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:19.940 No, no, no, that's fine. It's the way you use 274 00:14:20.740 --> 00:14:21.039 on there. 275 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:22.679 That is your username, Jay. 276 00:14:23.299 --> 00:14:23.600 Jay? 277 00:14:23.759 --> 00:14:24.120 Yeah. 278 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.320 That's your name on your profile for the meet-me? 279 00:14:27.019 --> 00:14:27.700 I think so. 280 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:30.639 I mean, that's the name I put for pretty much 281 00:14:32.710 --> 00:14:35.509 any type of social media or anything. You know, like 282 00:14:35.549 --> 00:14:38.649 I have a content page for my gaming that I 283 00:14:38.669 --> 00:14:41.110 do on my phone, and my name is SRT Gringo. 284 00:14:41.870 --> 00:14:44.029 And I don't... I don't like my name. 285 00:14:44.629 --> 00:14:48.210 What's Rango? Oh, I used to have a, I had, 286 00:14:48.330 --> 00:14:51.009 I owned a, well, two old 3D. 287 00:14:50.990 --> 00:14:51.750 Rangos, so. 288 00:14:52.009 --> 00:14:52.500 Oh, I see. 289 00:14:52.529 --> 00:14:54.559 That's kind of where it stemmed from, and I wanted 290 00:14:54.580 --> 00:14:57.320 to do a project of going through engines on it, 291 00:14:57.340 --> 00:14:58.860 so it kind of just stuck to me. 292 00:14:59.500 --> 00:15:06.340 Got it. Okay, so you met her on the meet me. 293 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:07.879 You started a conversation with her. 294 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.490 Did the whole conversation stay through the meet me, or 295 00:15:12.500 --> 00:15:14.419 did it changed to something else? 296 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:18.340 It did change to something else. 297 00:15:19.100 --> 00:15:19.539 What is that? 298 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:21.740 It was my phone number. 299 00:15:21.980 --> 00:15:22.259 Okay. 300 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.409 I mean, I didn't, that part I didn't really see, like, 301 00:15:28.470 --> 00:15:31.070 you know, because I, you know what I'm saying, I've 302 00:15:31.370 --> 00:15:33.509 been in relationships with people and, you know, when you 303 00:15:33.549 --> 00:15:36.070 meet somebody, you don't want to keep texting them and having. 304 00:15:35.929 --> 00:15:38.110 To text them all the time, you know, so I 305 00:15:38.129 --> 00:15:41.080 didn't really You know what I'm saying? I didn't think 306 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:42.000 nothing of that. 307 00:15:42.179 --> 00:15:43.440 I was just like, okay, cool. 308 00:15:44.620 --> 00:15:47.570 It does become a little overwhelming to keep conversations through 309 00:15:47.610 --> 00:15:54.149 a house, but probably better through a phone. So the 310 00:15:54.190 --> 00:16:01.129 conversation continued over the phone. How far into the conversation 311 00:16:01.169 --> 00:16:01.850 did she. 312 00:16:03.269 --> 00:16:03.929 Tell you that she. 313 00:16:03.870 --> 00:16:08.950 Wasn't really 38 or when you found out her real age? 314 00:16:12.899 --> 00:16:14.080 What time is it right now? 315 00:16:15.730 --> 00:16:17.450 It's almost 7 or 5. 316 00:16:17.450 --> 00:16:21.710 I mean, how long were you guys talking before you 317 00:16:21.750 --> 00:16:23.429 realized that, you know. 318 00:16:24.210 --> 00:16:25.309 That's what I'm thinking. 319 00:16:25.429 --> 00:16:27.929 Were you guys having a long conversation? 320 00:16:27.950 --> 00:16:28.429 Was it a short. 321 00:16:28.490 --> 00:16:28.669 I mean. 322 00:16:28.690 --> 00:16:28.909 I mean. 323 00:16:29.860 --> 00:16:36.899 I mean, you could say it was long. 324 00:16:37.899 --> 00:16:39.980 At what point did you realize that you were talking 325 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:40.919 to a younger girl? 326 00:16:41.460 --> 00:16:42.279 Well, when she told me. 327 00:16:42.929 --> 00:16:46.190 Okay, but is it, let's think of the whole conversation 328 00:16:46.269 --> 00:16:48.210 as a beginning, middle, and end. 329 00:16:48.370 --> 00:16:50.470 Was it towards the beginning? Was it towards the middle? 330 00:16:50.490 --> 00:17:00.049 Or was it towards the end? It was like a beginning, middle, 331 00:17:00.230 --> 00:17:01.789 and end. Okay. 332 00:17:01.830 --> 00:17:04.930 I think we kind of like got a little conversation in. 333 00:17:06.109 --> 00:17:10.410 But then it was like just, you know, just here 334

00:17:10.450 --> 00:17:10.789 you go. 335 00:17:11.069 --> 00:17:11.230 Yeah. 336 00:17:13.529 --> 00:17:16.009 I did ask her. I was like, bro, you can't 337 00:17:16.029 --> 00:17:22.289 be serious. You know? There's nothing to add to that. 338 00:17:22.309 --> 00:17:27.069 That's why I kept asking questions like, why are you 339 00:17:27.109 --> 00:17:27.910 going to date me? 340 00:17:27.970 --> 00:17:30.309 I'd be focused on school. 341 00:17:30.829 --> 00:17:31.750 You know what I'm saying? True. 342 00:17:32.609 --> 00:17:35.630 I mean, at my. 343 00:17:35.269 --> 00:17:38.089 Age, when. 344 00:17:38.690 --> 00:17:42.779 I was a bad kid, but But I still was 345 00:17:42.819 --> 00:17:44.359 focused on school, you know what I'm saying? 346 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:46.089 Nobody was on the line at that time. 347 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.269 I think we were all bad kids at some point. No, 348 00:17:51.289 --> 00:17:52.309 I was a real bad kid. 349 00:17:53.470 --> 00:17:57.869 And so the conversation kept going, and you said that 350 00:17:57.910 --> 00:18:03.450 you wanted to just hang out with her, knowing at 351 00:18:03.490 --> 00:18:04.390 this point that she was. 352 00:18:05.609 --> 00:18:07.589 Yeah, I didn't want to. I mean. 353 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.920 In a way, yes. I mean, it is wrong just to, 354 00:18:11.940 --> 00:18:13.289 you know, sit with a. 355 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:15.900 But that's, you know what I'm saying? 356 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.589 That's why I wasn't trying to find, like, when I 357 00:18:19.609 --> 00:18:21.410 said I wanted to watch a movie, I wasn't. 358 00:18:21.190 --> 00:18:22.490 Wanting to try to watch nothing. 359 00:18:22.529 --> 00:18:23.460 It was like.... 360 00:18:27.309 --> 00:18:29.369 Like, able to bring us together. 361 00:18:29.450 --> 00:18:29.690 Okay. 362 00:18:29.769 --> 00:18:30.869 If you get what I'm saying. 363 00:18:31.250 --> 00:18:33.069 You know what I mean? Like... I think so. 364 00:18:33.130 --> 00:18:35.549 Like, touching-wise. You know what I'm saying? 365 00:18:36.190 --> 00:18:36.509 Nothing. 366 00:18:36.529 --> 00:18:39.799 You know what I'm saying? Like, I wasn't trying to get... Because.... 367 00:18:40.069 --> 00:18:43.069 My baby mama, she was talking to me about watching Crampus, 368 00:18:43.190 --> 00:18:45.910 and I was just like, okay, well, you got an influence, 369 00:18:45.930 --> 00:18:46.670 you can watch that. 370 00:18:46.690 --> 00:18:49.630 Because I don't have an influence on the TV, no more. 371 00:18:49.710 --> 00:18:51.670 I was just like, okay, we can just watch that. 372 00:18:53.069 --> 00:18:54.849 I mean, I didn't really see a preview of it, 373 00:18:54.869 --> 00:18:57.210 but it's Crampus. I feel like, you. 374 00:18:57.079 --> 00:18:59.930 Know, I'm not sure what the movie is about. I've 375 00:18:59.950 --> 00:19:01.700 heard of it, but I'm not entirely sure. 376 00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:05.019 Yeah, I'm not either. But I just know a girl 377 00:19:05.039 --> 00:19:07.059 about it. My baby mama told me about it, and 378 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:09.460 I was like, okay, I'll watch it. Okay. 379 00:19:10.339 --> 00:19:14.220 Now, Brian, our concern, obviously, like we've told you, and 380 00:19:14.259 --> 00:19:15.440 we want to be completely. 381 00:19:15.099 --> 00:19:19.359 Honest with you, is the comments of, do you want 382 00:19:19.380 --> 00:19:23.819 to fuck, or whatever else you say. 383 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:29.880 Yeah, that wasn't me, like, because after I said it, 384 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:31.940 I was like, damn, man, it looks like I'm trying 385 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:33.170 to initiate something. 386 00:19:33.910 --> 00:19:36.029 But it wasn't, it was more, because I should have 387 00:19:36.049 --> 00:19:38.950 put a question after, but it was more of a question, like. 388 00:19:39.670 --> 00:19:44.809 Because I mean, if you tell somebody, we don't have. 389 00:19:44.690 --> 00:19:45.710 To do nothing. 390 00:19:46.250 --> 00:19:48.130 You know, we can just sit. 391 00:19:48.970 --> 00:19:49.690 And just chill. 392 00:19:49.990 --> 00:19:53.009 You know what I'm saying? Let that be that. You 393 00:19:53.029 --> 00:19:54.569 know what I'm saying or not? You know what I mean? 394 00:19:55.089 --> 00:19:58.109 And it was the key questioning of what do you 395 00:19:58.150 --> 00:19:59.690 want to do? What do you want to do? What 396 00:19:59.730 --> 00:20:00.339 do you want to do? 397 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:03.740 I was like, in my mind, I was like, there's 398 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:08.079 no way this is trying to, you know what I'm saying, 399 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:09.420 do this type of stuff. 400 00:20:09.460 --> 00:20:10.589 That's why I never mentioned it. 401 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:13.440 I was like, Maybe she is, but I'm not going 402 00:20:13.460 --> 00:20:15.700 to mention it because I'm not trying to do that. 403 00:20:16.019 --> 00:20:19.339 You know what I mean? Well, and here's the other thing. 404 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:23.269 Like I mentioned earlier, we were very aware of the 405 00:20:23.309 --> 00:20:26.690 conversation you were having with her. And obviously we were 406 00:20:26.730 --> 00:20:30.069 given a copy of that conversation. So we were able 407 00:20:30.109 --> 00:20:31.390 to see the chats. 408 00:20:31.589 --> 00:20:31.930 Okay. 409 00:20:32.369 --> 00:20:38.640 There is some comments there toward the end about condoms. 410 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.079 Can you tell me about that? So you said, do 411 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:51.019 you want to get a condom? No, do you? It 412 00:20:51.059 --> 00:20:53.460 was something that is, do you want to get a condom? 413 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:54.839 Do I want to get a condom? 414 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:57.680 I can't remember exactly how, but it was something like that. 415 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:02.039 And I really didn't want to answer it because I 416 00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:06.420 didn't

want to do nothing. I was trying to avoid it. 417 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:11.210 I mean, I answered it in a way. I just said, okay, cool. 418 00:21:12.410 --> 00:21:17.069 And from then on, when I left, I was just 419 00:21:17.089 --> 00:21:17.970 trying to go back home. 420 00:21:18.009 --> 00:21:20.609 I was just trying to leave that conversation there. 421 00:21:20.630 --> 00:21:25.730 Because I was like, you know, you. 422 00:21:25.630 --> 00:21:26.329 Know what I mean? 423 00:21:27.430 --> 00:21:34.029 So, Brian, I'm listening to you, right? And, you know, 424 00:21:34.170 --> 00:21:35.049 like you said, we read. 425 00:21:34.950 --> 00:21:36.190 The conversation and stuff. 426 00:21:36.690 --> 00:21:39.759 And I'm listening to you and, you know, I really 427 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:43.180 feel like you, like earlier, you know, we could really 428 00:21:43.220 --> 00:21:46.019 get a sense of, you know, like you were raised, 429 00:21:46.500 --> 00:21:49.329 you know, better than that, right? That's kind of like 430 00:21:49.349 --> 00:21:51.150 the first thing that you made us feel, right? And 431 00:21:51.630 --> 00:21:54.410 I can honestly say from the conversations that I read, like, 432 00:21:54.869 --> 00:21:56.250 you know, you're. 433 00:21:55.829 --> 00:21:58.970 Kind of like a gentleman. You know what I'm saying? 434 00:21:59.009 --> 00:22:01.730 Like you're so, you were so polite. 435 00:22:01.230 --> 00:22:05.710 And so, you know, I don't know, like very attentive to, 436 00:22:06.579 --> 00:22:08.480 you know, and I'm just talking like a chick, you 437 00:22:08.500 --> 00:22:11.299 know what I'm saying, to her needs and her wants 438 00:22:11.420 --> 00:22:13.839 in the conversation. I really get a sense of, you know, 439 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:16.079 that you really are trying to be like a, you know, 440 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:18.539 to please her and take care of her and calling 441 00:22:18.579 --> 00:22:19.380 her queen. 442 00:22:19.099 --> 00:22:22.009 And all that, right? Yeah, well, that's kind of something 443 00:22:22.069 --> 00:22:22.309 I'm used to. 444 00:22:22.329 --> 00:22:23.170 Yeah, yeah. 445 00:22:23.269 --> 00:22:24.329 It's just, it's what you want. 446 00:22:24.349 --> 00:22:26.450 I was trying not to. Because you're a nice guy. Yeah, 447 00:22:26.509 --> 00:22:28.950 I was trying not to call her that. 448 00:22:29.430 --> 00:22:32.990 So, you know, I really feel like you're trying to, 449 00:22:33.130 --> 00:22:35.029 you know, just be as honest and genuine as you 450 00:22:35.049 --> 00:22:37.339 possibly can, but I feel like you're I feel like 451 00:22:37.380 --> 00:22:39.680 we can be a little more real, if you get. 452 00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:39.799 Me, right? 453 00:22:39.819 --> 00:22:41.279 We could be a little bit more real, right? Like, 454 00:22:41.779 --> 00:22:44.039 if you're going to be honest, just be 100% honest. 455 00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:46.980 You know, like, don't be, like, a little bit. No, 456 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.549 just be honest. You know why you're here. 457 00:22:50.269 --> 00:22:52.589 You knew why you were here because you broke down 458 00:22:52.609 --> 00:22:53.869 in tears, right? 459 00:22:53.890 --> 00:22:56.789 Because deep down in your heart, you already knew, man, 460 00:22:56.849 --> 00:22:57.490 I messed up. 461 00:22:58.450 --> 00:23:01.130 So we're not going to downplay, right, the mess up 462 00:23:01.819 --> 00:23:04.390 by saying things like, I wasn't going to do it, 463 00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:06.019 or I didn't really want to do it, or I wasn't. 464 00:23:06.829 --> 00:23:10.670 At the end of the day, you know you messed up, okay? 465 00:23:11.109 --> 00:23:14.890 And you went on the meet-me, right? When you go 466 00:23:14.930 --> 00:23:17.529 on this meet-me, were you already out of the house 467 00:23:17.569 --> 00:23:18.859 or were you at the house when you went on 468 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:23.700 the meet-me? When you started talking. Yeah, when you started talking. Yeah, 469 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:25.039 were you already? You was home. 470 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:25.960 Okay. 471 00:23:26.220 --> 00:23:29.119 At what point do you go to the gas station? 472 00:23:30.220 --> 00:23:33.880 Before I even texted. 473 00:23:33.460 --> 00:23:34.490 And said that I was leaving. 474 00:23:34.940 --> 00:23:37.380 Okay, but at that point, you guys had already kind of, like, 475 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:38.859 talked about it, and. 476 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:39.220 Yeah. 477 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:39.900 But, I mean, well. 478 00:23:39.980 --> 00:23:43.660 I mean, if you could say it was plans to 479 00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:44.960 me in my head, it didn't seem. 480 00:23:45.069 --> 00:23:49.430 Okay. It seemed like it was just something that was... 481 00:23:49.329 --> 00:23:51.910 Not getting dragged on, but. 482 00:23:56.970 --> 00:23:57.339 I'm sorry. 483 00:23:58.019 --> 00:23:58.380 It's okay. 484 00:23:58.400 --> 00:23:59.180 Take your time. 485 00:24:03.539 --> 00:24:04.019 Take your time. 486 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:04.259 Breathe. 487 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:20.759 Just be honest, what did it seem like? You went 488 00:24:20.779 --> 00:24:23.779 to the gas station, right? You have plans on meeting. 489 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:24.319 Up with Abby, right? 490 00:24:26.109 --> 00:24:29.849 Because at some point, Brian, like at some point, right, 491 00:24:30.150 --> 00:24:33.390 in the conversation, pretty early on, when you guys start 492 00:24:33.410 --> 00:24:34.329 texting each other, right? 493 00:24:35.099 --> 00:24:40.400 And even though you're like, you're right, you're not lying 494 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.400 to us. I know you're being honest. You're telling us. 495 00:24:42.779 --> 00:24:44.700 I was like, you were like, are you serious? 496 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.259 But you still kept talking to me even after she 497 00:24:48.299 --> 00:24:49.240 told you she was lying. 498 00:24:49.289

--> 00:24:50.569 True or not true? Yes, ma'am. 499 00:24:50.730 --> 00:24:52.369 You kept talking to me, right? 500 00:24:52.630 --> 00:24:54.890 So even though deep down you sit here in front 501 00:24:54.910 --> 00:24:56.809 of us and you're like, I didn't want any of that, 502 00:24:57.170 --> 00:24:59.289 it didn't stop you from moving forward. 503 00:24:59.309 --> 00:25:03.109 I mean, the conversation.... 504 00:25:03.190 --> 00:25:04.750 That we was talking about before. 505 00:25:04.769 --> 00:25:06.839 At first it was just like friendly. 506 00:25:07.130 --> 00:25:09.880 It was just like friendly conversation. But let me ask 507 00:25:09.980 --> 00:25:11.079 you something. 508 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:12.220 It was weird, right? 509 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.819 What makes it weird? It was just the age difference. 510 00:25:16.859 --> 00:25:18.799 That's the point I'm trying to make. That's what I'm 511 00:25:18.819 --> 00:25:21.779 trying to get you to be honest about with me. 512 00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:26.569 Because you knew it was weird. But you didn't stop talking. Right? 513 00:25:27.289 --> 00:25:30.829 You didn't stop talking. That didn't stop you from leaving 514 00:25:30.849 --> 00:25:32.829 the house, man. That didn't stop you from leaving the 515 00:25:32.869 --> 00:25:34.190 house and going to the gas station? 516 00:25:34.210 --> 00:25:36.119 I was actually leaving the house to get a black man. 517 00:25:36.140 --> 00:25:36.299 Okay. 518 00:25:36.420 --> 00:25:39.400 Actually, I don't even think I ended up throwing the 519 00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:41.880 black down because it was probably still on the ground. Okay. 520 00:25:42.259 --> 00:25:45.569 But I smoked it to about right there. 521 00:25:46.220 --> 00:25:49.809 And then you said that, you know, that was like 522 00:25:49.849 --> 00:25:52.190 saying stuff that made you feel like she was trying to. 523 00:25:52.150 --> 00:25:54.849 Say something, but he didn't really want to say it. Yeah. 524 00:25:54.890 --> 00:25:55.130 Right? 525 00:25:56.210 --> 00:25:56.410 Yeah. 526 00:25:56.470 --> 00:25:57.470 So you just said it for her? 527 00:25:58.619 --> 00:25:59.640 I didn't want to, but it was like. 528 00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:01.880 And you didn't put the question marks on there, but you. 529 00:26:01.859 --> 00:26:02.460 Said what you said. 530 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:03.359 No, because that's how it tends. 531 00:26:03.460 --> 00:26:04.079 That's how it tends. 532 00:26:04.099 --> 00:26:05.480 Okay, and what was it that you said? 533 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.240 I said, do you want to fuck or something? I mean, 534 00:26:09.289 --> 00:26:15.650 I said something else. It was more with. 535 00:26:15.809 --> 00:26:17.269 Or get ate or something like that, right? 536 00:26:17.309 --> 00:26:20.250 Yeah, it was more with it. 537 00:26:20.329 --> 00:26:22.230 And at this point, when you made this comment or 538 00:26:22.250 --> 00:26:24.339 you asked this question, whether it was

a comment or 539 00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:25.039 a question, right? 540 00:26:25.099 --> 00:26:30.779 At this point, you know, right? True or not true? 541 00:26:32.019 --> 00:26:32.279 Right? 542 00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:38.369 In my mind, I was being honest with you. 543 00:26:38.390 --> 00:26:42.910 Like I said earlier, at my age, that wasn't on 544 00:26:42.930 --> 00:26:45.009 my mind. It's this generation. 545 00:26:45.049 --> 00:26:47.650 But we're not talking about you. We're not talking about you. 546 00:26:47.819 --> 00:26:53.920 We're talking about you. She's entertaining this with you. 547 00:26:54.299 --> 00:26:55.759 And you're entertaining this with her. 548 00:26:56.890 --> 00:26:57.109 Right? 549 00:26:57.430 --> 00:26:58.819 And here's the difference between you and me. 550 00:26:59.450 --> 00:26:59.680 Right? 551 00:27:00.339 --> 00:27:03.619 You're an adult. You know better, bro. You know how 552 00:27:03.700 --> 00:27:06.539 I know you know better? Because before we even said 553 00:27:06.579 --> 00:27:10.740 a word, you were already like, man. Broke down. 554 00:27:12.819 --> 00:27:13.099 Right? 555 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.240 Because you know. 556 00:27:15.829 --> 00:27:16.609 You messed up. 557 00:27:20.130 --> 00:27:22.470 And then you say, oh, well, I wasn't even going 558 00:27:22.549 --> 00:27:24.500 to follow through with it. But towards the end of 559 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:27.589 the conversation, she asks you, should I bring a condom? 560 00:27:27.769 --> 00:27:30.509 And you're like, no, I'm going to get one. That 561 00:27:30.569 --> 00:27:33.210 tells me, Brian, okay, that. 562 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:37.339 You were on board. We have the conversation, Brian. And 563 00:27:37.420 --> 00:27:39.480 if I'm wrong, maybe correct me if I'm wrong. 564 00:27:39.539 --> 00:27:41.589 And listen, I can read you exactly what you said. 565 00:27:42.109 --> 00:27:44.630 All right. Like I said, we got copies. I'm not saying, 566 00:27:44.690 --> 00:27:46.349 I'm not trying to seem like a liar. 567 00:27:46.430 --> 00:27:47.029 No, that's not it. 568 00:27:47.049 --> 00:27:49.450 Because if I'm saying, if I don't want to put 569 00:27:49.490 --> 00:27:51.950 words in your mouth, if I got it messed up, 570 00:27:52.029 --> 00:27:55.539 I can't memorize the whole conversation, then I'll take, you know, 571 00:27:55.619 --> 00:27:56.259 ownership for that. 572 00:27:56.539 --> 00:27:58.960 But I'm pretty sure that that's what I read. She 573 00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:01.920 volunteered to get condoms and you said, basically, I'll take 574 00:28:01.940 --> 00:28:02.329 care of it. 575 00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.519 Well, no, no, no. Okay. You want me to read 576 00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:06.940 it to you? I know exactly what I said. I'll 577 00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:09.769 read it to you. I'll read it to you. Okay. 578 00:28:11.470 --> 00:28:13.940 and this is her, are you bringing a condom or 579 00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:17.240 you need me to bring one? And then you text it, 580 00:28:17.420 --> 00:28:19.980 I have to get one. And then she texts you back, 581 00:28:20.019 --> 00:28:21.859 can you get one because I don't want to get preggo. 582 00:28:22.660 --> 00:28:25.019 And then you reply, I got you queen, but I 583 00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.359 still need the addy. I mean, I'm assuming the addy 584 00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:28.460 means the address. 585 00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:33.859 Okay. So, when we're telling you that we have to 586 00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:35.569 text messages, we have to text. 587 00:28:35.589 --> 00:28:37.049 How do you leave a conversation? 588 00:28:37.109 --> 00:28:38.829 What do you mean? 589 00:28:40.750 --> 00:28:41.470 You hear the. 590 00:28:41.430 --> 00:28:44.109 Conversation by saying I'm not getting a condom? No, no. 591 00:28:44.650 --> 00:28:47.710 It's not. Touche. 592 00:28:48.190 --> 00:28:48.470 Okay. 593 00:28:49.650 --> 00:28:54.180 Touche. No, that's not what I mean. What I mean is, okay, 594 00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:56.900 if I'm talking to somebody, say like hypothetically. 595 00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:57.059 Yeah. 596 00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:58.180 Me and you are talking. 597 00:28:58.240 --> 00:28:58.500 Okay. 598 00:28:58.740 --> 00:28:59.059 Okay. 599 00:28:59.579 --> 00:29:02.599 If I wasn't feeling you, you know what I'm saying? 600 00:29:02.660 --> 00:29:05.430 Yeah, I'm going to tell you. Yeah. We can go 601 00:29:05.470 --> 00:29:09.829 do this, do that. But then you just get ghosted. 602 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:10.980 That's my thing. 603 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:11.579 I ghost people. 604 00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:12.079 Okay. 605 00:29:12.819 --> 00:29:16.940 If I don't want to keep entertaining, which at that 606 00:29:17.019 --> 00:29:19.180 point it went too far as well. 607 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:23.319 It's just like, I said I got you. 608 00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:24.920 I said I would get it. That's not what the 609 00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:27.769 messages are indicating, Brian. 610 00:29:27.789 --> 00:29:30.309 Do you understand why it would be? If you were 611 00:29:30.349 --> 00:29:33.690 in my position, would you believe that? If you were 612 00:29:33.710 --> 00:29:35.390 in my shoes, would you believe that? 613 00:29:35.430 --> 00:29:36.009 You got a point. 614 00:29:36.269 --> 00:29:36.529 Yes. 615 00:29:37.009 --> 00:29:37.369 Okay. 616 00:29:37.750 --> 00:29:39.049 I'm not trying to fight against you. 617 00:29:39.109 --> 00:29:39.970 No, and I don't want to fight. 618 00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:41.880 I don't want you to feel like it's i really 619 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:44.420 want to just hear no understanding how you're. 620 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.240 Because i'll have the list yes what i'm saying is 621 00:29:47.859 --> 00:29:51.190 okay think about it like this if i'm getting a 622 00:29:51.230 --> 00:29:54.089 condom and i already said my 7-eleven gas station is 623 00:29:54.109 --> 00:29:54.970 so comfortable. 624

00:29:56.130 --> 00:29:57.950 So if I was going back home, why didn't I 625 00:29:57.970 --> 00:29:58.849 just get it right there? 626 00:29:58.930 --> 00:30:02.039 I've been sitting there for like 40 minutes. I could 627 00:30:02.059 --> 00:30:05.240 have just got it, but I didn't. That's why I 628 00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.259 say I wasn't trying to follow through. 629 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.579 I could have got it right there. 630 00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:11.740 The message is you also ask her, like, what are 631 00:30:11.769 --> 00:30:13.789 we going to do? Because I've been sitting here for 632 00:30:13.789 --> 00:30:14.150 40 minutes. 633 00:30:14.789 --> 00:30:17.029 So maybe you didn't get the condom because you didn't 634 00:30:17.049 --> 00:30:18.009 know what was going to happen. 635 00:30:18.029 --> 00:30:19.509 You were waiting on her to respond. 636 00:30:19.710 --> 00:30:23.859 I didn't get it because I didn't want to go through. 637 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.910 Brian, I know you're saying that. Okay, but your actions 638 00:30:26.970 --> 00:30:30.589 are showing something completely different. Okay, because you went out 639 00:30:30.630 --> 00:30:32.529 of your, you left your house, going out of your 640 00:30:32.569 --> 00:30:37.099 way to go meet this girl. Okay, so don't say 641 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.220 that you were going to ghost her. You had every 642 00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:41.380 intention to meet her. 643 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.619 Sir, sir, there's two 7-Elevens. 644 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:50.509 There's one right where we, yeah, that way, right? 645 00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:51.900 Yep. I went here. 646 00:30:52.089 --> 00:30:53.670 Yes, I went in the general area. 647 00:30:53.769 --> 00:30:53.890 Okay. 648 00:30:54.190 --> 00:30:54.410 Okay. 649 00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:56.759 But at the same time, you will see, as soon 650 00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:58.839 as I, if you go to that camera, you will see, 651 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:00.579 you're going to ask the dreadhead dude there. 652 00:31:01.099 --> 00:31:04.119 As soon as I went there, I went late. 653 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.259 I didn't, I didn't drop my bike, went in, and 654 00:31:07.299 --> 00:31:08.740 literally went straight to the front counter. 655 00:31:09.420 --> 00:31:12.769 I could have got a car and didn't do anything. 656 00:31:12.829 --> 00:31:16.369 If I had actual intention on doing something, I could 657 00:31:16.390 --> 00:31:17.289 have got a car and didn't. 658 00:31:17.789 --> 00:31:20.609 I went, got me a black, and I left. 659 00:31:21.990 --> 00:31:24.569 And when I left, I actually left the phone that 660 00:31:24.630 --> 00:31:25.769 I was texting on. 661 00:31:25.829 --> 00:31:27.430 And that's on the camera. They had to do, the 662 00:31:27.849 --> 00:31:30.910 person that was behind me had to tell me. And 663 00:31:30.990 --> 00:31:34.329 I was like, oh, well shit, okay. Is that the 664 00:31:34.349 --> 00:31:36.940 phone you were texting her with? Yes, sir. What was it? 665 00:31:37.009 --> 00:31:37.970 It was left on the counter. 666 00:31:38.049 --> 00:31:38.289 What phone? 667 00:31:38.309 --> 00:31:39.490 But you went back and got it. They gave it 668 00:31:39.509 --> 00:31:40.170 to you. 669 00:31:40.210 --> 00:31:43.289 Yeah. Well, yeah. Because my phone right now is a 670 00:31:43.309 --> 00:31:44.970 black screen. Okay. I can't. 671 00:31:46.529 --> 00:31:47.349 What phone was it? 672 00:31:47.369 --> 00:31:47.569 Yeah. 673 00:31:47.609 --> 00:31:50.009 What is the phone? It was like blue. Blue. 674 00:31:50.349 --> 00:31:50.609 Yeah. 675 00:31:50.710 --> 00:31:53.470 What brand? It was... Sometimes I enjoy it. I'm not 676 00:31:53.509 --> 00:31:53.950 sure what. 677 00:31:54.069 --> 00:31:55.990 Is it like a Wi-Fi only phone or something? 678 00:31:56.309 --> 00:31:57.529 Yeah. I mean. 679 00:31:57.869 --> 00:32:00.170 Because you said your phone, the phone number is a 680 00:32:00.210 --> 00:32:02.170 black screen. So you can't text on that phone. 681 00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:03.609 That's the phone number I gave y'all. 682 00:32:03.829 --> 00:32:04.089 Okay. 683 00:32:04.190 --> 00:32:06.410 But then the phone that you're actually messaging Abby on 684 00:32:06.470 --> 00:32:08.250 is a different phone. It's a blue phone. 685 00:32:08.670 --> 00:32:09.750 And it's a text now number. 686 00:32:09.890 --> 00:32:11.049 With a text now number. Yes. 687 00:32:11.329 --> 00:32:11.609 Okay. 688 00:32:11.710 --> 00:32:15.210 And you said that, does that have a line or 689 00:32:15.970 --> 00:32:17.930 is it Wi-Fi only? So you have a text now number? 690 00:32:17.970 --> 00:32:18.759 Is that what you're doing? 691 00:32:18.779 --> 00:32:18.920 Okay. 692 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:19.940 Got it. 693 00:32:20.660 --> 00:32:24.410 You had that phone when deputies made contact with you? 694 00:32:25.329 --> 00:32:27.269 They said it was on the ground. I've never seen 695 00:32:27.289 --> 00:32:31.309 nobody pick it up. I saw that they picked it up. Yeah, 696 00:32:31.630 --> 00:32:35.509 I think we picked it up, Brian. It's a blue one, 697 00:32:35.529 --> 00:32:36.130 you said, right? 698 00:32:36.150 --> 00:32:36.349 Yes, sir. 699 00:32:36.369 --> 00:32:38.410 I'm pretty sure I saw a blue phone that they had. 700 00:32:40.670 --> 00:32:42.769 So is that a Wi-Fi phone? Does it have a 701 00:32:42.789 --> 00:32:45.190 phone number assigned to it? That's what I was trying 702 00:32:45.210 --> 00:32:45.650 to tell you. 703 00:32:45.769 --> 00:32:48.759 I went into settings, and it shows there's a phone number. 704 00:32:49.450 --> 00:32:53.190 And I tried to call out early today and tried 705 00:32:53.210 --> 00:32:53.910 to call my mom. 706 00:32:54.529 --> 00:32:55.809 No, I tried to call my phone. 707 00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:57.799 But it didn't work. 708 00:32:57.819 --> 00:32:58.660 Where did you get that phone? 709 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:00.380 It's an old phone that I've had.

710 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:00.799 It's like. 711 00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:03.180 Is it your old phone or a house phone? Like 712 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:04.220 somewhere in the house? 713 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:05.220 No, my old phone. 714 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:06.200 It's your old phone? 715 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:06.440 Yeah. 716 00:33:06.579 --> 00:33:07.700 So at some point it was on. 717 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:09.740 No, it was my best friend, but she gave it 718 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:09.980 to me. 719 00:33:10.220 --> 00:33:10.480 Okay. 720 00:33:11.059 --> 00:33:13.490 Because I was... going through it. So I needed a 721 00:33:13.509 --> 00:33:14.950 phone and she gave it to me just in case. 722 00:33:14.970 --> 00:33:16.730 So it's probably disconnected and you're using Wi-Fi. 723 00:33:16.750 --> 00:33:18.210 You have to hook up to a Wi-Fi and you 724 00:33:18.250 --> 00:33:20.380 use a text dial number and that's how you're messaging. 725 00:33:20.539 --> 00:33:23.359 Makes sense. And how long have you had that phone for? Um, 726 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:34.079 you and I have maybe two. 727 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:41.450 My reason is, like I said in my Facebook It's 728 00:33:41.710 --> 00:33:46.690 full of content. The account that I use for the game, 729 00:33:46.710 --> 00:33:50.049 do y'all know what beta is? 730 00:33:51.750 --> 00:33:51.930 No. 731 00:33:51.990 --> 00:33:54.130 No, educate me a little bit, because it's a little 732 00:33:54.170 --> 00:33:54.819 bit ignorant. 733 00:33:54.930 --> 00:33:59.660 Like a beta, it's like how you got beta Facebook 734 00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:00.420 and stuff like that. 735 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.960 Beta is basically, okay, say you put out a game, right? Mm-hmm. 736 00:34:06.059 --> 00:34:06.359 All right. 737 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:09.289 And me and her are playing it. But I'm a 738 00:34:09.309 --> 00:34:13.869 beta tester and she's just a regular person. I would 739 00:34:13.909 --> 00:34:16.929 be the person to test it out and make sure 740 00:34:17.030 --> 00:34:21.929 it works for the world, whoever wants to play it. 741 00:34:22.409 --> 00:34:28.869 And then eventually when everything is optimized and done, then boom, 742 00:34:29.050 --> 00:34:30.170 it's going to be set out. 743 00:34:30.929 --> 00:34:32.769 She can get it and you can get it. You 744 00:34:32.789 --> 00:34:33.329 know what I'm saying? 745 00:34:33.349 --> 00:34:34.110 Sure. 746 00:34:34.150 --> 00:34:35.210 That's what a beta is. 747 00:34:35.510 --> 00:34:35.789 Okay. 748 00:34:35.829 --> 00:34:40.409 My account is a beta for Android. 749 00:34:40.429 --> 00:34:43.610 That's... Do you test, like, Android stuff? 750 00:34:44.309 --> 00:34:45.369 Well, no, it's just that one game. 751 00:34:46.110 --> 00:34:48.389 That one game, if you go on my Facebook, you 752 00:34:48.429 --> 00:34:52.030 can literally see I have no pictures of anything. I mean, 753 00:34:52.070 --> 00:34:55.670 there's other pictures of my other

big moment, like, when 754 00:34:55.710 --> 00:34:56.389 I first had it. 755 00:34:56.429 --> 00:35:00.320 But I literally dedicated that whole... It was a personal Facebook. 756 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:01.159 I dedicated it. 757 00:35:01.219 --> 00:35:02.699 All just to that game. 758 00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.340 And you're still talking about the blue phone? 759 00:35:04.860 --> 00:35:06.369 Yes. Okay. 760 00:35:06.449 --> 00:35:08.210 That's why I got it. 761 00:35:08.389 --> 00:35:12.650 My account is for Android, but I've been using an iPhone, 762 00:35:12.690 --> 00:35:16.510 so I can't get that stuff. And I found out 763 00:35:16.630 --> 00:35:19.329 that I can't. The phone's out of date, so it 764 00:35:19.369 --> 00:35:22.719 doesn't even have my game on it. All right. 765 00:35:22.860 --> 00:35:26.659 Well, here's something I'd like to do, Brian. I'm going 766 00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:27.739 to give you the opportunity. 767 00:35:29.610 --> 00:35:33.789 To write down, if you want to, an apology lady, 768 00:35:33.989 --> 00:35:36.449 a letter, I'm sorry, for this girl. 769 00:35:36.210 --> 00:35:40.099 And for her parents. Okay? So, I don't want to 770 00:35:40.139 --> 00:35:42.110 force you to do it. If you want to do it, 771 00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:43.730 write it down. I don't want to do it. 772 00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:46.250 I mean, if this helps me out, man, I. 773 00:35:46.619 --> 00:35:49.059 Do you want more water? Do you need another water? 774 00:35:50.420 --> 00:35:51.559 Oh, please. 775 00:35:51.780 --> 00:35:51.960 Yeah? 776 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:52.550 All right. 777 00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:54.130 We'll leave you to that. I'll give you some water, 778 00:35:54.369 --> 00:35:55.869 and we'll do the complaint, okay? 779 00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:58.230 Oh, here, let me see that white bottle. I'll put 780 00:35:58.250 --> 00:36:05.400 it away for you. I don't know if you know, 781 00:36:05.420 --> 00:36:10.469 but I'm out. That's all right, man. Gather your thoughts. 782 00:36:16.829 --> 00:36:24.230 Am I going to be like a predator? 783 00:36:24.289 --> 00:36:27.610 That's too far in advance to even say. Okay? 784 00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:31.440 Let's cross this bridge right now and then we can 785 00:36:31.539 --> 00:36:34.199 figure that out at a later. 786 00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:34.400 Date, okay? 787 00:36:35.420 --> 00:36:40.599 I don't like to speculate through future things because I. 788 00:36:40.539 --> 00:36:42.260 Can't see the future. If I could see the future, 789 00:36:42.300 --> 00:36:46.989 believe me, I'd be playing the lottery every day. But 790 00:36:47.010 --> 00:36:50.409 we'll talk about that. We'll discuss that later. Thank you 791 00:36:50.449 --> 00:36:57.670 so much. Of course. Excuse me. 792 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:21.440 Almost done writing? Still working on it? 793 00:37:21.500 --> 00:37:24.320 No, no, no, that's fine. Whatever you find. Did you 794 00:37:24.340 --> 00:37:28.079 write that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is writing. Yeah, man. 795 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.659 You're all right. Man, it feels a lot nicer in 796 00:37:33.699 --> 00:37:34.800 here than it feels out there. 797 00:37:35.659 --> 00:37:38.920 I like the leaves. There's the conferences. 798 00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.699 I like the color. I don't know what. 799 00:37:42.619 --> 00:37:43.579 Size arrows like to me. 800 00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:53.550 No, they're not. Yeah, sign and take it. Take it. 801 00:37:53.570 --> 00:37:59.280 Take it. Today's the 23rd. 802 00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.820 You can move the date next year's attention. 803 00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:03.679 There's no rules. 804 00:38:03.940 --> 00:38:04.400 It's okay. 805 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.179 There's no rules, man. Just wherever you want. 806 00:38:14.210 --> 00:38:14.670 Thanks, Brian. 807 00:38:16.610 --> 00:38:22.929 All right, Brian. I want to go... I want to 808 00:38:22.969 --> 00:38:27.699 ask you something real quick. So the phone... It's a 809 00:38:27.900 --> 00:38:31.800 new motor role, I believe there was. I'm getting you 810 00:38:31.820 --> 00:38:32.170 over there. 811 00:38:32.849 --> 00:38:39.690 So because the conversation was had mostly through that phone, okay, 812 00:38:39.849 --> 00:38:44.780 and I know that sometimes people erase text messages that 813 00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:47.099 would not show. I want to be able to see 814 00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:52.159 that what you're telling us that you texted is true, okay, 815 00:38:52.739 --> 00:38:53.699 So I was going to ask. 816 00:38:53.539 --> 00:38:55.800 You if it would be okay with you if we are. 817 00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.719 Able to search through the phone and make sure that 818 00:38:57.980 --> 00:39:00.840 what you're telling us, that those conversations that are in 819 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:02.679 there are exactly what you're saying. 820 00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:08.190 Are you okay with that? Is that a yes? Okay. 821 00:39:08.389 --> 00:39:11.869 All I need from you, Brian, and I've already filled 822 00:39:11.909 --> 00:39:15.289 out this part that has your name, Brian R. Terry Richard, 823 00:39:15.750 --> 00:39:18.530 and it's for the Blue Motor Roller. Okay. All I 824 00:39:18.570 --> 00:39:20.230 need is a signature right here from you. 825 00:39:21.139 --> 00:39:23.590 The date, and I'll tell you that uh the time 826 00:39:23.610 --> 00:39:27.059 right now and the time is 11 53 p.m do. 827 00:39:30.500 --> 00:39:33.860 You have any questions about this form brian do you 828 00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:37.170 have any questions about the form take a minute and 829 00:39:37.210 --> 00:39:38.230 read it okay. 830 00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.659 Here and after, at this time, and after this time, 831 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:00.070 refer to as the. 832 00:40:00.179 --> 00:40:02.389 So your phone is, from now on, the rest of 833 00:40:02.409 --> 00:40:04.550 it is going to be referred to as electronic device. 834 00:40:04.570 -->

00:40:07.050 That way they don't have to keep saying... What's the. 835 00:40:06.949 --> 00:40:10.050 Passcode on the phone? There's no passcode? 836 00:40:10.110 --> 00:40:10.269 Okay. 837 00:40:24.869 --> 00:40:30.130 Yeah, I was going to use another person. Andrew was 838 00:40:30.150 --> 00:40:32.800 saying that Dave was underage, too. 839 00:40:33.380 --> 00:40:34.920 So on that phone, we're also going to find a 840 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.500 conversation between you and another person that's also underage. 841 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:38.239 Is that what you're saying? 842 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:42.480 Yeah, it's just that conversation didn't... We had a conversation, 843 00:40:42.500 --> 00:40:43.360 but Dave didn't. 844 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:47.079 Tell me until, like, the end of it. Okay. Dave 845 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:48.019 wasn't really talking. 846 00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:48.579 All right. 847 00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:51.280 Thank you for telling us that. It's just a reminder. 848 00:40:51.809 --> 00:40:54.050 Anybody else or any photographs that we're going to find 849 00:40:54.110 --> 00:40:56.820 on there about gender-age girls or anything like that? 850 00:40:57.380 --> 00:41:01.159 It's not like that? That phone doesn't have nothing on it. 851 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:01.860 Okay, thanks. 852 00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:05.960 But I appreciate you being honest with us, right? No, 853 00:41:05.980 --> 00:41:07.199 I mean, y'all are going. 854 00:41:06.980 --> 00:41:08.500 To find it on the email. 855 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:12.960 I appreciate it, man. Thank you. And is that just 856 00:41:12.980 --> 00:41:14.920 like a text message that you were having? 857 00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:18.760 They said something about being a freak and not just 858 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:19.280 a serial killer. 859 00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:26.739 It was, like I said, it seemed strange. I heard this. 860 00:41:26.619 --> 00:41:32.289 Happening then as I was riding, as I was trying 861 00:41:32.309 --> 00:41:32.909 to go home. 862 00:41:32.969 --> 00:41:35.110 I was sitting at the store, they told me that, and. 863 00:41:35.110 --> 00:41:35.750 I was like, it. 864 00:41:38.670 --> 00:41:39.489 Doesn't seem right. 865 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.000 Do you have any questions for us, Brian? 866 00:41:54.630 --> 00:42:01.230 Brian, you know, obviously, you know, right? You said you 867 00:42:01.269 --> 00:42:06.250 wouldn't have how many cops jump off and detain you 868 00:42:06.650 --> 00:42:07.389 if this wasn't. 869 00:42:07.210 --> 00:42:08.150 Serious, right? 870 00:42:08.469 --> 00:42:10.360 You know that. You know how this works, right? You've 871 00:42:10.380 --> 00:42:11.179 been arrested before. 872 00:42:11.659 --> 00:42:12.480 But not for doing this. 873 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:13.719 Not for this, exactly. 874 00:42:13.739 --> 00:42:16.159 But you've been arrested for other things, right? And it's 875 00:42:16.179 --> 00:42:17.920 a little bit different this time, right? Like the whole 876 00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:20.500 thing's been a little bit different. Just feels a little 877 00:42:20.539 --> 00:42:23.860 more serious, would you agree? Feels a little bit more intense? 878 00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:24.929 Yes. Right? 879 00:42:25.650 --> 00:42:28.570 So, you know, and like I said, I want to 880 00:42:28.610 --> 00:42:30.449 give you credit where credit is due because, you know, 881 00:42:30.489 --> 00:42:35.050 you have told us a lot, right? The only thing 882 00:42:35.070 --> 00:42:37.179 that you haven't been honest about is, you know, your 883 00:42:37.219 --> 00:42:38.260 intentions towards the end. 884 00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:39.599 You said, oh, I was going to go home. I 885 00:42:39.619 --> 00:42:41.920 was going to go home. But, you know, obviously when 886 00:42:41.940 --> 00:42:44.199 you were apprehended, you weren't headed in the direction of home. 887 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:45.619 You were headed in the opposite direction. 888 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:45.980 I was. 889 00:42:46.340 --> 00:42:46.619 You were? 890 00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:47.920 My home was very near. 891 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:51.860 When I go outside, I just see how middle when 892 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:56.210 they drop off kids. My house was that way. There 893 00:42:56.250 --> 00:42:57.570 was two ways I could have went. 894 00:42:57.590 --> 00:42:59.730 I could have either went the way that y'all got me, 895 00:43:00.349 --> 00:43:01.829 or I could have went on the back road. 896 00:43:01.889 --> 00:43:04.730 Either way, it goes directly to my house. 897 00:43:05.409 --> 00:43:06.230 I was going home. 898 00:43:06.409 --> 00:43:09.079 But it's also in the direction of the address that 899 00:43:09.099 --> 00:43:09.719 you were provided. 900 00:43:10.019 --> 00:43:13.059 No, the address that I... At first, there was no 901 00:43:13.179 --> 00:43:18.269 address that we provided. I was just told. 902 00:43:18.090 --> 00:43:27.630 That it was towards the 7-Eleven in the rural key. 903 00:43:27.690 --> 00:43:29.550 When they called me, when they apprehended me, I was 904 00:43:29.590 --> 00:43:33.019 going the opposite direction of where the location I was 905 00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:34.079 told that she was at. 906 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.800 Is that the 7-Eleven you were at where you bought 907 00:43:37.019 --> 00:43:38.119 the black and white. 908 00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:39.699 Or the one by the rural key? Yes, you can 909 00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.159 go on the camera. No, I was leaving. And so 910 00:43:42.179 --> 00:43:45.559 you were leaving that one? Going towards your house, which 911 00:43:45.619 --> 00:43:46.940 is by Howard Middle. 912 00:43:46.980 --> 00:43:49.300 I wasn't going towards. I was going to my house. 913 00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:51.800 Okay. You were going to your house, which is by 914 00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:52.840 Howard Middle, you said. 915 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.699 Is there any other gas

stations near that that you 916 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:57.090 could go and step in? 917 00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:02.190 The only gas stations is 7-Eleven and that's 7-Eleven. 918 00:44:02.389 --> 00:44:04.969 Which one's the other 7-Eleven? What do you mean? It's 919 00:44:05.050 --> 00:44:05.750 on the 2nd. 920 00:44:05.769 --> 00:44:06.250 Okay. 921 00:44:06.289 --> 00:44:09.030 You said the one where rural came. Where's the other one? 922 00:44:09.050 --> 00:44:11.750 Right down the road. You can't visit. 923 00:44:12.969 --> 00:44:13.730 On the same street? 924 00:44:13.929 --> 00:44:17.380 Yes, but it's just on the opposite side. It's on 925 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.860 the same street. I don't know how y'all don't know that. 926 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:24.320 There's some new gas station. Yeah. It's so hard to distract. 927 00:44:24.340 --> 00:44:26.699 It seems like every other day there's some new gas station. 928 00:44:27.059 --> 00:44:30.380 And car washing. 7-Eleven light is here. 929 00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.429 It's not the next light, but it's the light after. 930 00:44:37.449 --> 00:44:39.010 Okay, I know what you're talking about. 931 00:44:41.250 --> 00:44:46.550 Is this closer to the interstate? 932 00:44:47.170 --> 00:44:49.550 You're talking about the one on 441 down there? Yeah, 933 00:44:49.789 --> 00:44:51.829 that one's a little way. 934 00:44:51.909 --> 00:44:54.510 Okay, the one on Pine. Yeah. Okay, I know which one. 935 00:44:54.550 --> 00:44:56.739 Yeah, I know which one's on the corner there, across 936 00:44:56.760 --> 00:44:59.139 from the U-Haul face. All right, man, so I'm going 937 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.260 to answer your question. Yeah, you are. 938 00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.659 I changed the head of my pocket. I was sad 939 00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:06.500 on my phone. You can go to my caller. I 940 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:07.099 sat on my. 941 00:45:07.019 --> 00:45:07.739 Phone with Charlie. 942 00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:14.050 Called my phone, called. So you didn't even have the 943 00:45:14.090 --> 00:45:14.949 money to buy a condom? 944 00:45:36.449 --> 00:45:39.230 So maybe that's why I wasn't worried about doing it. 945 00:45:39.269 --> 00:45:40.969 You said you were going to buy a condom, but 946 00:45:40.989 --> 00:45:42.030 you never... No, that's why I was. 947 00:45:42.090 --> 00:45:43.969 You didn't have the money, but it was because you 948 00:45:43.989 --> 00:45:46.079 didn't have the money, you were scraping up change to 949 00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:46.579 buy a lot. 950 00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:49.360 If I got the money or not, I have a 951 00:45:49.420 --> 00:45:51.679 bag of condoms that my mom gave me like a 952 00:45:52.219 --> 00:45:54.940 couple months ago at my house. 953 00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.559 I don't... If I needed a condom, I could have 954 00:45:58.579 --> 00:46:00.619 just got it. I could have used it in dollars 955 00:46:00.659 --> 00:46:01.760 just to get a condom. 956 00:46:01.820

--> 00:46:04.079 I mean, I don't know how much condoms cost, but. 957 00:46:05.059 --> 00:46:07.880 Okay. I could have got it from there. You know 958 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.579 what I'm saying? I scraped up money. My original. 959 00:46:11.610 --> 00:46:14.510 Thing, my original going out wasn't for her. 960 00:46:15.030 --> 00:46:17.510 It just happened to be in the direction. 961 00:46:17.610 --> 00:46:18.730 I was already getting in the life. 962 00:46:19.230 --> 00:46:20.429 I stopped smoking, relax. 963 00:46:21.170 --> 00:46:22.789 But I was going through it. 964 00:46:22.849 --> 00:46:26.010 To answer your question that you asked us earlier, I mean, yeah, 965 00:46:26.050 --> 00:46:27.230 you are being arrested. 966 00:46:27.250 --> 00:46:27.550 Okay, bud? 967 00:46:28.469 --> 00:46:29.449 Yes, yes, ma'am. 968 00:46:36.099 --> 00:46:42.300 Alright, so the charges he admitted of being charged with 969 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:47.139 is sent on traveling to Midwiner and the unlawful. 970 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:52.320 Use of a two-way communication device, which both are felonies. 971 00:46:53.619 --> 00:46:53.760 Okay. 972 00:46:54.969 --> 00:47:01.110 Are you on any probation? You're on probation for anything? Okay. 973 00:47:01.849 --> 00:47:06.530 So what is my dictation on it? I would say, 974 00:47:06.550 --> 00:47:09.090 I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you'll 975 00:47:09.110 --> 00:47:12.010 get there. I've got to look and see if you're 976 00:47:12.050 --> 00:47:14.630 hunting somebody. He told me before I go, so I 977 00:47:14.670 --> 00:47:15.230 just know. 978 00:47:16.090 --> 00:47:17.590 Are you talking about how long you're going to be 979 00:47:17.739 --> 00:47:20.880 in jail tonight or what the sentencing time is? 980 00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:23.159 Because you know that we don't know. That varies depending 981 00:47:23.219 --> 00:47:24.380 on the judge. 982 00:47:24.659 --> 00:47:28.280 Well, no, I know that, but I'm saying there's also, 983 00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:36.420 there's always a general, you know, like, It. 984 00:47:36.300 --> 00:47:38.559 Could be more, but it was about 20. 985 00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.599 That's what I'm asking. Like, what do you know? 986 00:47:42.179 --> 00:47:43.880 I will tell you if I knew off the top 987 00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:44.940 of my head, but I don't. 988 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:45.239 Right. 989 00:47:45.619 --> 00:47:45.920 I don't. 990 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.239 And if I knew, I would tell you what the 991 00:47:48.900 --> 00:47:52.179 ranges of that is. But it's not up to us. 992 00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.420 It's not up to what that is. It's ultimately up 993 00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.980 to a judge. And at that point, they decide what happens. 994 00:47:59.500 --> 00:48:04.130 I'm sorry. No, no. I was just going to say 995 00:48:04.150 --> 00:48:06.030 that this is just part of the judicial system. 996 00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:06.730 That's how it works. 997 00:48:06.769 --> 00:48:09.309 We do the beginning part, and then it continues, and 998 00:48:09.409 --> 00:48:10.789 somebody else's hands have to do that. 999 00:48:11.909 --> 00:48:15.349 Is there someone who needs to get dropped down to 1000 00:48:15.409 --> 00:48:15.869 a mock-up? 1001 00:48:15.909 --> 00:48:17.409 You're going to have to talk to your lawyer. 1002 00:48:17.429 --> 00:48:17.730 Yeah. 1003 00:48:17.789 --> 00:48:19.449 You're going to have to go there and talk. 1004 00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:20.199 To them about it, all right? 1005 00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:24.260 So you'll go to jail tonight, okay? Like I said, 1006 00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:27.400 I can't remember if there's a bond on these. I've 1007 00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.760 fairly certain that there's not. But you'll have first appearance, 1008 00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:35.070 if not tomorrow morning, the morning after, and you'll be 1009 00:48:35.110 --> 00:48:35.929 given a. 1010 00:48:37.469 --> 00:48:37.710 Lawyer. 1011 00:48:38.469 --> 00:48:41.739 Okay, so at that point, if you can discuss with 1012 00:48:41.780 --> 00:48:44.079 them how. 1013 00:48:43.059 --> 00:48:44.920 You guys wish to proceed with this. This is going 1014 00:48:44.940 --> 00:48:48.000 to be like, I've seen cameras. I mean, I know 1015 00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.820 they have to, you know, take pictures or whatever. You know, 1016 00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.949 that's their job. This is going to be like broadcasting. 1017 00:48:54.389 --> 00:48:59.389 I'm not sure, Brian. I'm just like a peon. This 1018 00:48:59.449 --> 00:49:02.079 is just... My part of the job, there's a lot 1019 00:49:02.099 --> 00:49:05.079 of moving pieces. What were they? The what? 1020 00:49:05.460 --> 00:49:09.489 Because there was like two cameras, two people, things, or 1021 00:49:09.530 --> 00:49:11.269 whatever you call them. 1022 00:49:11.349 --> 00:49:14.030 There's a chance that they're probably, you'll figure it out 1023 00:49:14.070 --> 00:49:16.510 here soon. But I'm going to find out the answer 1024 00:49:16.530 --> 00:49:18.769 to the question that you asked earlier, like the general idea, 1025 00:49:18.929 --> 00:49:19.980 and I'll let the deputy know so he can. 1026 00:49:19.989 --> 00:49:21.510 Answer your question before you get to the jail, okay? 1027 00:49:22.030 --> 00:49:26.679 That too, I'll just, I don't know, Brian, you're dealing with. 1028 00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:27.980 Water right now, right? 1029 00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:44.739 Let me tell you this. Hey, Ryan, how you doing? 1030 00:49:44.949 --> 00:49:46.199 Good to meet you. 1031 00:49:48.460 --> 00:49:50.000 Hey, so I've got a couple of questions for you. 1032 00:49:50.980 --> 00:49:52.820 I need you to help me out to understand what 1033 00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:53.519 happened tonight. 1034 00:49:53.539 --> 00:49:59.909 And it looks like you got online and met a 1035 00:49:59.929 --> 00:50:01.090 f * * * ing girl. 1036 00:50:02.110 --> 00:50:10.309 Are

you a detective? No. I'm Chris Hansen. And I'm 1037 00:50:10.329 --> 00:50:13.489 a journalist. I do stories on investigations like this one. 1038 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.239 And so I need to talk to you for a 1039 00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:22.860 little bit. Just help me to understand what happened to that. 1040 00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:25.380 Guy. 1041 00:50:25.489 --> 00:50:27.769 I'm sorry. You can't what? 1042 00:50:27.789 --> 00:50:32.230 I don't want to. 1043 00:50:32.789 --> 00:50:34.550 I know, but I need to know. We're going to 1044 00:50:34.590 --> 00:50:35.469 do a story on this. 1045 00:50:35.889 --> 00:50:39.539 So I need your insight so people can understand what happened. 1046 00:50:41.190 --> 00:50:44.590 Well, I'm going. 1047 00:50:43.469 --> 00:50:48.539 To need it from you firsthand. Does this have to 1048 00:50:48.579 --> 00:50:51.280 do with my case? This has to do with the 1049 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:55.519 story I'm doing on your case. Which is two different things. 1050 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:59.550 Two different things. Okay, sir. But when you said you're 1051 00:50:59.570 --> 00:51:02.150 not in control here, that's number one. Okay. 1052 00:51:02.349 --> 00:51:05.119 You gave up your reasonable expectation for privacy when you 1053 00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.059 went to go meet a girl for sex. 1054 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:11.360 But also, this is my mouth. I don't have to. 1055 00:51:11.619 --> 00:51:14.820 Like the card said, I have rights to. You do 1056 00:51:14.860 --> 00:51:18.789 have rights. Right. But there's two different. Okay. Then just 1057 00:51:19.090 --> 00:51:20.670 let me ask you a couple questions. 1058 00:51:21.750 --> 00:51:25.699 When you said to this girl what you want to 1059 00:51:25.780 --> 00:51:28.880 fuck or get ate. I feel like you've got something 1060 00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:30.880 on your mind, but you ain't saying it. What did 1061 00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:31.639 you mean by that? 1062 00:51:36.150 --> 00:51:36.630 Help me out. 1063 00:51:40.550 --> 00:51:40.889 Sorry. 1064 00:51:42.210 --> 00:51:43.570 I'm not trying to be rude at all. 1065 00:51:44.190 --> 00:51:45.590 I'm not trying to be rude either, but. 1066 00:51:45.530 --> 00:51:49.559 You understand my position here, right? Have you seen our 1067 00:51:49.579 --> 00:51:53.039 story before? To Catch a Predator, Takedown with Chris Hansen. 1068 00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.219 Are sting operations, have you seen those on TV? 1069 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:01.380 Sir, no. 1070 00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.750 I'm not answering the question. I don't answer the question. 1071 00:52:06.789 --> 00:52:09.070 You've been arrested for something similar before. 1072 00:52:09.090 --> 00:52:10.329 I don't answer the question. 1073 00:52:10.869 --> 00:52:13.349 Well, you should answer this one because it appears that 1074 00:52:13.389 --> 00:52:18.590 when you were you were charged with lewd and lascivious behavior. 1075 00:52:18.250 --> 00:52:21.829 With a

minor who was who was thrown out. Who 1076 00:52:22.170 --> 00:52:25.599 was thrown out. Okay, well, let's see. These are the 1077 00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:27.719 things I need to know. Well, what you need to 1078 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.219 know is that it's no longer on my record. I 1079 00:52:30.260 --> 00:52:33.780 did my time. I'm not, I put that in my past, sir. 1080 00:52:33.820 --> 00:52:35.179 I'm not going to bring it back up. 1081 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:35.659 Okay. 1082 00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:37.869 We're talking about the here and now and now. Are 1083 00:52:37.909 --> 00:52:40.769 you charging charges with that? No, I want to know 1084 00:52:40.789 --> 00:52:42.309 about it because it's relevant to this case. 1085 00:52:42.329 --> 00:52:43.230 I'm not talking about it. 1086 00:52:43.269 --> 00:52:45.269 No, it's not. That happened years ago, sir. That has 1087 00:52:45.289 --> 00:52:48.289 nothing to do with this girl. It's okay. But you were... 1088 00:52:48.690 --> 00:52:52.400 I have no questions, sir. I'm sorry. When you say 1089 00:52:52.420 --> 00:52:53.579 it was thrown out, what do you mean? 1090 00:52:59.820 --> 00:53:04.480 Okay, but you see why that would be relevant to 1091 00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.739 somebody like me if you've been charged with a similar 1092 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:10.920 crime and then you show up tonight in the sting operation. 1093 00:53:13.139 --> 00:53:19.889 Trying to meet a girl you rode your bike Sir. 1094 00:53:19.909 --> 00:53:22.449 Did you actually look up the case and actually see 1095 00:53:22.869 --> 00:53:23.989 everything that's in there? 1096 00:53:24.030 --> 00:53:28.449 Well, help me out. You said there's no case anymore, 1097 00:53:28.510 --> 00:53:30.980 so you tell me. You poop it off, so therefore 1098 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:32.199 that means you have something. 1099 00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.039 I do have something, and I'd like you to tell 1100 00:53:34.059 --> 00:53:34.519 me about it. 1101 00:53:34.860 --> 00:53:37.090 No, I'm just, what I'm going to tell you is, sir, 1102 00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:40.849 you did, you, that's your job to dig into this stuff. 1103 00:53:41.570 --> 00:53:43.929 I mean, so I'm going to let you dig into 1104 00:53:43.949 --> 00:53:46.510 that and do your job. Okay, that's what you get 1105 00:53:46.570 --> 00:53:46.989 paid for. 1106 00:53:47.010 --> 00:53:50.210 Well, what I dug into was something you said, which 1107 00:53:50.269 --> 00:53:53.010 was what you want to fuck or get ate. 1108 00:53:53.690 --> 00:53:55.130 What did you mean by that when you said it 1109 00:53:55.150 --> 00:53:58.269 to a f * * * ing girl? How long 1110 00:53:58.309 --> 00:54:01.139 you want to do this, sir? Until I get some answers. 1111 00:54:03.260 --> 00:54:03.920 So it's up to you. 1112 00:54:04.980 --> 00:54:06.460 This is going to be on the television. It's going 1113 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:07.539 to be part of our story. 1114 00:54:08.300 --> 00:54:10.340 And

I would think that somebody like you would want 1115 00:54:10.380 --> 00:54:12.780 to put it into context. 1116 00:54:14.469 --> 00:54:18.929 Your family's going to see it. You do. All right. 1117 00:54:19.389 --> 00:54:22.670 Is there anything else you want to tell me? Can 1118 00:54:22.690 --> 00:54:26.159 you look at me? Yeah. Please don't look down at that. 1119 00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:27.340 I feel like that's difficult. 1120 00:54:27.420 --> 00:54:27.519 Okay. 1121 00:54:28.860 --> 00:54:30.519 Okay. Are y'all paying attention? 1122 00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:32.139 Y'all good? 1123 00:54:32.420 --> 00:54:33.639 Good. Okay. 1124 00:54:34.980 --> 00:54:36.340 There's the thing, sir. 1125 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.320 These million, all of y'all people, all of y'all people. 1126 00:54:44.409 --> 00:54:47.409 You, if you're going to tell a story or something, sir, 1127 00:54:47.449 --> 00:54:49.690 you have to tell a story, the whole story. 1128 00:54:49.710 --> 00:54:52.329 Okay? That's the type of person I am. There's always 1129 00:54:52.349 --> 00:54:54.469 two sides to a story. All right? 1130 00:54:54.949 --> 00:54:58.690 If you're going to pull up something on somebody, You 1131 00:54:58.730 --> 00:55:01.869 need to have everything that you need to have. Okay, 1132 00:55:01.949 --> 00:55:04.289 I'm not going to let you get the upper hand 1133 00:55:04.329 --> 00:55:06.570 on me because I know at the end of the 1134 00:55:06.590 --> 00:55:08.510 day what's going to happen is footage is going to 1135 00:55:08.530 --> 00:55:13.340 get out. Things are going to get cut and edited 1136 00:55:13.420 --> 00:55:13.760 and this. 1137 00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:17.860 That, this, that. Okay, and there are millions of people. 1138 00:55:18.739 --> 00:55:20.820 Nobody's going to understand this situation. 1139 00:55:22.409 --> 00:55:23.710 Do you understand this situation? 1140 00:55:23.750 --> 00:55:25.829 Have you been in this situation? No, I've never been 1141 00:55:25.869 --> 00:55:26.909 in this situation. Right there. 1142 00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:31.260 So I want you to step out of the Fred 1143 00:55:31.300 --> 00:55:35.590 Stanton shoes for a second and put yourself on the 1144 00:55:35.630 --> 00:55:36.630 other side of that camera. 1145 00:55:38.070 --> 00:55:39.610 How are you going to judge me? I want to 1146 00:55:39.630 --> 00:55:41.409 know this is on TV, right? 1147 00:55:41.730 --> 00:55:42.050 Okay. 1148 00:55:42.250 --> 00:55:44.250 I'm asking you this. How would you judge? 1149 00:55:44.929 --> 00:55:46.860 I'll judge you by what you tell me in the 1150 00:55:46.900 --> 00:55:48.719 context you give me about your story. 1151 00:55:49.019 --> 00:55:52.039 What I'm saying is. Off of what you have, what 1152 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:52.880 you've put up. 1153 00:55:53.139 --> 00:55:55.219 All I know is that there's a record of activity 1154 00:55:55.260 --> 00:55:57.610 like this, and I'm asking you to put it in context. 1155 00:55:57.659 -->

00:56:01.750 If you were wrongfully charged, if there's more to the story. 1156 00:56:01.809 --> 00:56:02.849 Do you want to know what happened? 1157 00:56:02.929 --> 00:56:03.170 Yes. 1158 00:56:03.190 --> 00:56:06.989 Do you know what the Arnett House is? The what? 1159 00:56:07.050 --> 00:56:10.590 The Arnett House. No, tell me. It's a group home. Yeah. 1160 00:56:11.409 --> 00:56:13.170 A group home that I wasn't supposed to be in. 1161 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.219 I was in there because I was waiting on my program. 1162 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:18.260 Okay? 1163 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:22.449 Okay. So they didn't want me to get locked up. 1164 00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:24.980 Go back into the system. 1165 00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:26.059 Okay? 1166 00:56:26.360 --> 00:56:28.059 So I did not have nowhere to go. Have you 1167 00:56:28.099 --> 00:56:30.559 ever been homeless? No. No. 1168 00:56:31.300 --> 00:56:32.360 I don't expect you. 1169 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:36.280 To understand what it feels like to be young and homeless. 1170 00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.760 I appreciate that. And have nobody to go to. Nobody 1171 00:56:39.780 --> 00:56:41.380 to take you in. Okay? 1172 00:56:42.980 --> 00:56:46.960 I'm not justifying my case. But the facts are the 1173 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:51.440 matter of the case. But what you don't know, what 1174 00:56:51.480 --> 00:57:00.760 you think you know, is that this girl snuck about 1175 00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:01.119 30 feet. 1176 00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:04.050 She was at the end of the girls' hall. She 1177 00:57:04.090 --> 00:57:10.309 snuck 30 feet. Went around the island. All of this 1178 00:57:10.369 --> 00:57:11.030 is glass. 1179 00:57:11.610 --> 00:57:14.510 That's glass, that's glass, that's glass. So they could see. 1180 00:57:15.389 --> 00:57:17.150 This is not a lockdown facility. 1181 00:57:17.929 --> 00:57:22.059 All right? she had help from other females to help 1182 00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:26.739 her while she crawled. Okay? Do I need to give 1183 00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:30.800 you an example? No, I could come on. I'm trying to. Come, come, come. 1184 00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:33.960 This is what I mean by crawled. This girl crawled 1185 00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:37.480 like this. This is in the group of, yes, this 1186 00:57:37.539 --> 00:57:43.329 girl crawled. Okay? Now, at the time that she came. 1187 00:57:43.809 --> 00:57:47.949 To my womb, which was also, when you go to 1188 00:57:47.969 --> 00:57:51.199 your IVF, My room was 30 feet that way. 1189 00:57:51.900 --> 00:57:53.500 Okay, so you do half of that. 1190 00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.199 That's 30 plus 30 plus 10 by 10. 1191 00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:05.000 That's about 70 to 80. That this person had other females, 1192 00:58:05.619 --> 00:58:10.489 her peers, help her get to me. 1193 00:58:10.849 --> 00:58:12.869 Meanwhile, this is on Friday. 1194 00:58:14.090 --> 00:58:16.940 Friday is have the most staff, it's about four to 1195 00:58:16.980 -->

00:58:19.440 five to six staff to maybe. 1196 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:20.699 Seven, okay? 1197 00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:26.320 She had help to get around every single staff to 1198 00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:30.960 get to my room, okay? Now mind you, there was 1199 00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:34.139 a guy there that he was a frat boy or 1200 00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:38.780 whatever he was back in his time, okay? He know 1201 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:41.170 I wanted to get fit. I just wanted to be fit. 1202 00:58:41.190 --> 00:58:44.219 I wanted to do pushups, stuff like that, okay? He 1203 00:58:44.260 --> 00:58:50.599 would come to my room, drop 25, and I would 1204 00:58:50.619 --> 00:58:51.039 get out of. 1205 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:56.750 Bed, drop 25. Come early in the morning, drop 50, 1206 00:58:56.750 --> 00:59:01.750 and I'd drop 50. He would drop 25 diamonds, and 1207 00:59:01.849 --> 00:59:06.570 I'd drop 25 diamonds. 75 wives, I'd drop 25 wives. 1208 00:59:09.630 --> 00:59:15.840 And my this was my coach. Okay? So when I 1209 00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:20.099 got this knock on my door, I thought it was 1210 00:59:20.139 --> 00:59:23.500 my coach. And it was this girl on the floor. 1211 00:59:24.780 --> 00:59:26.800 So what do you do when you first open the door? 1212 00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:33.980 You open it wide, don't you? Now, this place has cameras. 1213 00:59:34.059 --> 00:59:35.860 If you really want to go deep on this, you 1214 00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.360 can go up there to Arnett House. 1215 00:59:38.380 --> 00:59:41.360 It's still up and running. Is that in Ocala? Mm-hmm. 1216 00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:46.829 It's probably about 15, 20 minutes. So if she comes 1217 00:59:46.869 --> 00:59:49.750 in the room, then what happens? She came in the room. 1218 00:59:50.929 --> 00:59:56.829 I'm thinking that this is... First of all, when you 1219 00:59:56.869 --> 01:00:01.340 open the door, do you think to look down? Mm-hmm. No. No, 1220 01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:02.960 you don't. Nobody does. 1221 01:00:03.099 --> 01:00:05.690 Nobody thinks, just open the door, look down. 1222 01:00:05.909 --> 01:00:10.130 No. You look at eye level, because if somebody's knocking 1223 01:00:10.170 --> 01:00:12.389 on your door, clearly it's a person. 1224 01:00:12.929 --> 01:00:13.809 That is stagnant. 1225 01:00:14.889 --> 01:00:20.380 Okay? When I did like this, I looked out, because 1226 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:21.719 mind you, there's nobody there. 1227 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:25.260 When I looked to the right, there's an exit door 1228 01:00:25.420 --> 01:00:26.719 about five feet away from me. 1229 01:00:27.019 --> 01:00:28.639 So there's nobody going to be over there. 1230 01:00:29.659 --> 01:00:31.960 And if there was somebody going through that door, Not 1231 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:32.800 long for the window. 1232 01:00:33.659 --> 01:00:40.309 Okay? Now, this was nothing my own. I freaked the 1233 01:00:40.329 --> 01:00:46.190 fuck out. Okay? Yes, we did stuff. But also, what 1234 01:00:46.210 --> 01:00:48.670 you don't know, sir, this is why. 1235 01:00:48.550 --> 01:00:50.809 I tell you, if you're going to do a case 1236 01:00:50.889 --> 01:00:53.409 on somebody, bring up their facts, okay? 1237 01:00:53.829 --> 01:00:57.730 You need to actually look into it, right? What this 1238 01:00:57.809 --> 01:01:00.860 girl told me was, that she was, I was at 1239 01:01:00.900 --> 01:01:01.800 the time, about. 1240 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:04.659 Yeah. 1241 01:01:05.860 --> 01:01:07.960 She told me she was around the same age as me. 1242 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:13.119 Now, the next morning, when the police came for me, 1243 01:01:13.900 --> 01:01:17.039 that's when I found out that she wasn't my age. 1244 01:01:17.059 --> 01:01:20.449 But it seems to me, Brian, that if you explained 1245 01:01:20.550 --> 01:01:23.329 it this way, say what you explained it to me, 1246 01:01:24.170 --> 01:01:27.750 that law enforcement would understand that this wasn't you being 1247 01:01:27.769 --> 01:01:32.349 a predator. This was just something that happened in this 1248 01:01:32.469 --> 01:01:33.510 unique situation. 1249 01:01:34.750 --> 01:01:36.849 Are you saying that they railroaded you at the time? 1250 01:01:36.869 --> 01:01:38.909 What do you mean? 1251 01:01:38.949 --> 01:01:42.030 They pushed you into accepting charges that you were not 1252 01:01:42.130 --> 01:01:42.670 guilty of. 1253 01:01:44.090 --> 01:01:46.550 What do you mean? 1254 01:01:46.969 --> 01:01:50.510 What happened after that incident? Were you criminally prosecuted? 1255 01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:51.840 Was there a plea bargain? 1256 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:53.739 How many of you pulled it up so clearly? 1257 01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:53.960 Okay. 1258 01:01:54.059 --> 01:01:59.369 Okay. And that went off your record after a certain 1259 01:01:59.409 --> 01:02:02.650 amount of time. Okay. Because I knew what I needed 1260 01:02:02.670 --> 01:02:03.010 to do. 1261 01:02:04.429 --> 01:02:08.820 If you can explain that so articulately to me, and 1262 01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:12.420 you're obviously a bright guy, how did you get caught 1263 01:02:12.460 --> 01:02:15.300 up in the situation you got caught up in tonight? 1264 01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:17.619 And what do you even do in talking to somebody? 1265 01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:21.199 You see what I'm saying? 1266 01:02:21.219 --> 01:02:27.960 I understand your story, and I accept that story. But tonight, 1267 01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:32.360 you're in a situation you could have avoided. And you're 1268 01:02:32.380 --> 01:02:33.639 a grown man now. 1269 01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:35.519 You're 25. 1270 01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:40.239 So explain to me why you would even entertain meeting 1271 01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:43.099 somebody who told you they were gay. Especially having gone 1272 01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:44.900 through this before. 1273 01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:49.780 It's totally different. I understand it's totally

different. 1274 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:54.400 So you can't... You can't configure that. 1275 01:02:54.460 --> 01:02:58.980 I understand what you're saying. Right. So given that, which 1276 01:02:59.500 --> 01:03:00.639 was unpleasant for you. 1277 01:03:01.659 --> 01:03:08.889 And unfortunate, but why would you even take the risk tonight? 1278 01:03:09.530 --> 01:03:12.289 And you put significant effort into riding your bike over 1279 01:03:12.309 --> 01:03:13.550 to a location and everything else. 1280 01:03:15.570 --> 01:03:18.869 So, like I said, if you'd like to tell the story... 1281 01:03:19.269 --> 01:03:21.530 You have to tell the whole story. Sure. What you're 1282 01:03:21.570 --> 01:03:25.429 telling all your viewers is only the fact of that 1283 01:03:25.550 --> 01:03:29.289 one message. Well, I'm not telling my viewers anything until. 1284 01:03:29.030 --> 01:03:32.340 I get your side of the story. But that's the 1285 01:03:32.420 --> 01:03:35.719 only thing. I know, but that's what constitutes the criminal 1286 01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.760 charge here. I mean, that's going to be the problem 1287 01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:38.840 for you then. 1288 01:03:38.900 --> 01:03:39.880 Okay. 1289 01:03:40.059 --> 01:03:42.639 So put it into context for me and help me 1290 01:03:42.659 --> 01:03:44.570 to understand it so my audience can understand. 1291 01:03:45.059 --> 01:03:46.760 What do you want me to stand for? 1292 01:03:46.860 --> 01:03:51.440 Well, why did you say it? Because I'm a realist, okay? Yeah. 1293 01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:53.500 At the end of the day, sir, I know you 1294 01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:55.440 don't give a fuck about me. You do not care. 1295 01:03:55.460 --> 01:03:56.260 Excuse my language. 1296 01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:59.539 Excuse my language. I can work that out. I'll rephrase that. 1297 01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:03.079 You don't care about me, okay? I care about the truth. 1298 01:04:03.159 --> 01:04:05.340 I care about your story. Do you? 1299 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:09.659 Sir, you get paid for this. You get paid for this. 1300 01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:12.639 Okay, so do you really care or do you really 1301 01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:13.539 care because. 1302 01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:15.619 Hey, here's another good one. 1303 01:04:16.900 --> 01:04:19.480 Well, I have a responsibility to tell the truth as 1304 01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.260 best I can about every situation I encounter, and that's 1305 01:04:22.300 --> 01:04:24.360 why I'm here. If I wanted to, I could just 1306 01:04:24.380 --> 01:04:27.219 take the video of the police, the sheriff's interview, and 1307 01:04:27.260 --> 01:04:29.570 just say, look, this is what happened. But I came 1308 01:04:29.619 --> 01:04:32.469 in here to personally get your side of the story. 1309 01:04:33.230 --> 01:04:36.309 That's why I'm here. If I was lazy, I could 1310 01:04:36.329 --> 01:04:38.829 have gotten it the lazy way. But I'm not that way. 1311 01:04:38.869 --> 01:04:40.989

I think it's just going too funny, sir. 1312 01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:43.820 I'm just trying to put it into context. 1313 01:04:43.900 --> 01:04:47.599 I understand that, but that's not the question that I asked. 1314 01:04:47.659 --> 01:04:48.860 What is this going to do for me? 1315 01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:52.179 It's going to allow people to understand how you got 1316 01:04:52.260 --> 01:04:53.480 into the situation you're in. 1317 01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:54.079 That's best. 1318 01:04:54.099 --> 01:04:57.230 You're talking about other people, sir. I'm talking about me. 1319 01:04:57.269 --> 01:04:59.969 You're interviewing me, right? I am interviewing you. Okay, you're 1320 01:05:00.010 --> 01:05:04.750 not talking about your killers. Right. Right? Let's talk about this. 1321 01:05:04.909 --> 01:05:06.949 So why did you get on your bike and ride 1322 01:05:07.050 --> 01:05:07.690 over to. 1323 01:05:07.570 --> 01:05:09.849 Meet this girl? I got a black model. 1324 01:05:09.969 --> 01:05:12.800 It's 50 cents in my inventory right now. I just 1325 01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:17.090 got from my uncle to get a black amount of surgery. Now, 1326 01:05:17.110 --> 01:05:19.389 if you want to, you can go up to that 7-Eleven. 1327 01:05:19.449 --> 01:05:21.329 I'm pretty sure that guy is still working there. 1328 01:05:21.369 --> 01:05:23.869 He'll tell you. As soon as I got there, I 1329 01:05:23.869 --> 01:05:26.539 went in there and got me a black amount. Okay. 1330 01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:29.619 Now, actually, the black amount that I was searching for, 1331 01:05:29.699 --> 01:05:30.840 I didn't end up getting. 1332 01:05:31.099 --> 01:05:34.119 I ended up having to get a different one. So 1333 01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:35.840 you're saying you weren't going to go meet this girl? 1334 01:05:35.860 --> 01:05:38.949 I didn't really have intentions on trying to. 1335 01:05:40.230 --> 01:05:42.809 What I said, and what you're not telling your viewers, 1336 01:05:43.070 --> 01:05:44.250 this is what I'm talking about. 1337 01:05:44.269 --> 01:05:46.190 If you tell a story, you've got to tell it all, sir. 1338 01:05:46.829 --> 01:05:47.570 You can't do that. 1339 01:05:48.300 --> 01:05:51.460 You cannot do that. What was your plan? What was 1340 01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:53.820 your plan tonight? Just go get a black mile to 1341 01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:57.400 drive back to my house? He said, what was my plan? Yeah. 1342 01:05:57.420 --> 01:06:04.440 I mean, you clearly got the text. 1343 01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:07.820 Well, you see me indicating that I'm misinterpreting this text. 1344 01:06:08.409 --> 01:06:09.730 So if I'm misinterpreting it. 1345 01:06:09.750 --> 01:06:13.030 You're misinterpreting things before that. 1346 01:06:13.269 --> 01:06:17.150 Okay. So my point is. First of all, actually, yeah, 1347 01:06:17.230 --> 01:06:23.659 you did misinterpret that text. Okay. We just discussed that too. Okay. Okay. 1348 01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:27.099 To put it into context. There was no question mark 1349 01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:29.340 on that. That was a question. It wasn't a statement. 1350 01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:32.960 So you were asking her. And if you. If you what? 1351 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.699 You want a fuck or get ate? If you like to. Listen. Listen. 1352 01:06:36.739 --> 01:06:39.409 Please listen. Okay. Please. I'm not trying to be an 1353 01:06:39.510 --> 01:06:41.389 asshole to you at all. 1354 01:06:41.550 --> 01:06:44.349 I am frustrated, but I'm trying to take as many 1355 01:06:44.389 --> 01:06:46.769 deep breaths with you as I can, okay? 1356 01:06:47.230 --> 01:06:49.010 I got to go to jail after this. Yeah, I know. 1357 01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:49.570 All right? 1358 01:06:49.610 --> 01:06:53.500 I got to face the bullshit of the worst fucking 1359 01:06:53.639 --> 01:06:55.900 jail in all of Florida. 1360 01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:58.320 Have you ever been to this fucking jail? Not behind 1361 01:06:58.340 --> 01:07:00.840 the bars, no. Oh, you don't need to be behind 1362 01:07:01.260 --> 01:07:04.400 the bars. Just go in there. You will see Wim Tucker. Yeah. 1363 01:07:04.940 --> 01:07:09.300 Trust me. You don't even have to be arrested. Tell 1364 01:07:09.340 --> 01:07:12.070 me you want to go interview somebody in there. And 1365 01:07:12.090 --> 01:07:16.909 just look around. You see this? See this? This looks 1366 01:07:16.969 --> 01:07:24.880 way better than you. Okay? This right here? That right there? 1367 01:07:25.500 --> 01:07:28.960 You don't feel that. You don't get that. There's none 1368 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:33.989 of these fucking chairs. There's no carpets. Okay? There's fucking rats. 1369 01:07:36.230 --> 01:07:43.519 that literally are rolling around at night in these pods. 1370 01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:47.760 I've seen them myself. I've counted them myself. Seven fucking 1371 01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:52.650 rats came out of a fucking hole. Okay? So please 1372 01:07:52.710 --> 01:07:54.050 fucking excuse me. 1373 01:07:55.710 --> 01:07:59.130 If I'm frustrated because you don't want to fucking tell 1374 01:07:59.730 --> 01:08:01.380 the things that happened before that. 1375 01:08:01.780 --> 01:08:04.000 What happened before that? Tell me. Excuse me. 1376 01:08:09.380 --> 01:08:11.420 I mean, I watched you in here with detectives crying 1377 01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:13.969 because you let your grandmother down by getting arrested tonight. 1378 01:08:14.969 --> 01:08:18.649 So... Sorry, I'm not actually nice, but please let me 1379 01:08:18.689 --> 01:08:22.550 talk to my girlfriend. Okay. Okay. All right. 1380 01:08:23.430 --> 01:08:25.529 I'm not threatening you. I don't feel threatened. 1381 01:08:25.590 --> 01:08:29.329 I'm not threatening you. I don't get threatened. But bringing 1382 01:08:29.350 --> 01:08:32.899 my grandma... I'm only bringing it up because... I'm only 1383 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:35.159 bringing it up because... No, please don't do it. I 1384

01:08:35.180 --> 01:08:36.380 see that it's threatened. 1385 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:37.340 I see that it's threatened. 1386 01:08:37.869 --> 01:08:40.970 With them, that's their job. They're law enforcement. 1387 01:08:41.010 --> 01:08:42.229 You are not law enforcement. 1388 01:08:42.260 --> 01:08:45.100 I don't have to tell you shit. Okay. Okay? 1389 01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:49.319 Everything I just said within the past 20 minutes, I 1390 01:08:49.340 --> 01:08:49.739 didn't have to. 1391 01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:51.060 Fucking tell you. I understand. 1392 01:08:51.300 --> 01:08:51.979 I appreciate that. 1393 01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:55.189 All right. So tell me what led up to this 1394 01:08:55.329 --> 01:08:59.069 that you don't think I understand. What you don't understand 1395 01:08:59.170 --> 01:08:59.970 is the real reason. 1396 01:09:00.220 --> 01:09:02.579 Why I was already going to the fucking store. 1397 01:09:02.619 --> 01:09:03.720 To get a black and white. 1398 01:09:04.779 --> 01:09:08.140 Which happened to be, you know, same vicinity. 1399 01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:09.239 Okay. 1400 01:09:10.220 --> 01:09:13.020 So you had no intention of meeting this girl is 1401 01:09:13.060 --> 01:09:13.699 what you're telling me. 1402 01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.350 What I'm telling you is, There's a test message in there. 1403 01:09:17.390 --> 01:09:22.069 I mean, the detectives just talked about this test message. Okay. 1404 01:09:22.810 --> 01:09:25.130 I said we can watch movies. 1405 01:09:25.189 --> 01:09:29.020 And I said, I also said we don't have to 1406 01:09:29.060 --> 01:09:29.960 do anything. 1407 01:09:30.939 --> 01:09:33.579 We can sit there and watch each other and just 1408 01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:35.760 stare at each other just the way we need to look. 1409 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:37.199 We can do that. Yeah. 1410 01:09:37.619 --> 01:09:37.960 Okay. 1411 01:09:39.279 --> 01:09:42.069 Also, the message that you don't have on there that 1412 01:09:42.090 --> 01:09:44.989 you're not telling your viewers is that. 1413 01:09:45.949 --> 01:09:49.210 I said, I will sit here and stare at you. 1414 01:09:49.229 --> 01:09:50.189 I don't care. 1415 01:09:50.310 --> 01:09:53.800 I'm not trying to do anything for it. Okay. Okay? 1416 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.539 When I sent that text, that was a text of 1417 01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:01.239 me saying, that's why I said you don't have the 1418 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:01.760 full story. 1419 01:10:01.779 --> 01:10:02.180 Right. 1420 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:04.359 Because you need to get the text after that. If 1421 01:10:04.380 --> 01:10:06.500 you're going to get the text, sir, you need to 1422 01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:09.170 get the full text. I'm going to get the full text. 1423 01:10:09.229 --> 01:10:14.020 Okay. But what I said was, You. 1424 01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:17.180 Seem like you want to say something, but you're not 1425 01:10:17.340 --> 01:10:17.890 saying it. 1426 01:10:19.260 --> 01:10:19.659

Okay. 1427 01:10:22.060 --> 01:10:25.859 Now, I can't recall if I said that before or 1428 01:10:26.060 --> 01:10:27.619 after that message. 1429 01:10:28.119 --> 01:10:31.840 I'm pretty sure I said it after. It was close 1430 01:10:31.859 --> 01:10:33.399 to that message. It was before or after. 1431 01:10:34.100 --> 01:10:34.420 Okay. 1432 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:36.260 That's why I said, sir, if you want to tell 1433 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:37.699 a story, you have to tell it to the host. 1434 01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:38.500 I understand that. 1435 01:10:38.939 --> 01:10:40.439 But here's the thing, Brian. 1436 01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:44.350 Why even take the risk of having the conversation and 1437 01:10:44.430 --> 01:10:47.609 coming out to have you. 1438 01:10:47.590 --> 01:10:48.380 In her direction. 1439 01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:52.020 I mean, are you telling me that the conversation and 1440 01:10:52.060 --> 01:10:53.859 your trip to the store were unrelated? 1441 01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.460 It just happened to be in a second. I'm going 1442 01:10:57.500 --> 01:11:00.439 to tell you. All right. That's the end of that. 1443 01:11:00.460 --> 01:11:03.000 So you had the conversation. It ended. You weren't going 1444 01:11:03.020 --> 01:11:04.739 to do anything. You weren't going to meet the world. 1445 01:11:04.939 --> 01:11:08.029 On my wing, listen. And you just went up there 1446 01:11:08.050 --> 01:11:09.430 to get a cigarette. 1447 01:11:09.489 --> 01:11:09.909 It's a vibe. 1448 01:11:09.930 --> 01:11:13.750 It's a vibe. This is why I need you. I 1449 01:11:13.989 --> 01:11:17.930 need you to get the full store. Right. Okay. Because 1450 01:11:18.010 --> 01:11:22.609 if you just get one part, which you don't want. 1451 01:11:22.630 --> 01:11:23.649 Here's what I'm trying to clarify. 1452 01:11:23.670 --> 01:11:26.069 So what you're telling me is, yeah, you had this chat, 1453 01:11:27.789 --> 01:11:31.409 but it had no relation to you going to the 1454 01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:32.699 store to get. 1455 01:11:32.619 --> 01:11:33.560 The black and mild. 1456 01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:38.300 You had the chat, that was over, and you just 1457 01:11:38.340 --> 01:11:40.500 happened to be in that vicinity getting a cigar. 1458 01:11:40.819 --> 01:11:41.140 Is that it? 1459 01:11:43.170 --> 01:11:48.529 Sir, I took about 20 minutes today trying to call 1460 01:11:48.569 --> 01:11:51.859 my cars, just trying to get a dollar. 1461 01:11:53.539 --> 01:11:56.020 A dollar. Do you know how that feels? I don't 1462 01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:59.359 feel like you know how that feels. To scrape up money, 1463 01:12:01.380 --> 01:12:06.000 to call every one of your cars just to get 1464 01:12:06.039 --> 01:12:10.449 a dollar. Do you know how that feels? No. Right. 1465 01:12:11.149 --> 01:12:11.750 I'm going exact. 1466 01:12:13.369 --> 01:12:15.649 Now, most of those half of the people that are 1467 01:12:15.670 --> 01:12:19.489 going to be watching this, when you

say half, some people. 1468 01:12:19.310 --> 01:12:21.470 That are going to be watching this will understand. 1469 01:12:21.489 --> 01:12:25.449 They will understand how it feels to just scrape up 1470 01:12:25.510 --> 01:12:30.470 a fucking dollar. And I appreciate that, but I asked 1471 01:12:30.529 --> 01:12:32.789 my uncle for 50 cents. 1472 01:12:33.750 --> 01:12:35.810 He gave me $ 2. 1473 01:12:35.329 --> 01:12:37.289 I don't know how much a fucking economy costs. 1474 01:12:38.050 --> 01:12:40.340 I would assume it costs about a dollar or something 1475 01:12:40.350 --> 01:12:40.810 like that. 1476 01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:41.609 Okay. 1477 01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:43.479 If I got $. 1478 01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:46.199 2 and I already had 50 cents on one car, 1479 01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:47.000 20 cents on. 1480 01:12:46.939 --> 01:12:49.640 Another car, don't you think if I was going to 1481 01:12:49.659 --> 01:12:50.899 get a condom, I would have got a condom? 1482 01:12:53.060 --> 01:12:54.979 It's the same thing. I told the detective, it's such 1483 01:12:55.020 --> 01:12:59.140 a different stuff. They said, why didn't you get a condom? 1484 01:13:00.460 --> 01:13:02.539 I said, and they said, you weren't going back to 1485 01:13:02.579 --> 01:13:02.970 the house. 1486 01:13:03.979 --> 01:13:08.529 All right? My house is in the opposite direction. Right, 1487 01:13:08.670 --> 01:13:09.430 of where you were headed. 1488 01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:13.159 No, my house is in the same direction where I 1489 01:13:13.180 --> 01:13:14.000 was heading, where. 1490 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:14.420 They got me. 1491 01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:16.619 See, what the police are saying, what the sheriffs are 1492 01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:18.899 saying is that you were heading towards where you thought 1493 01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:19.619 the curl was. 1494 01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:24.409 No, when they picked me up, I was heading in 1495 01:13:24.430 --> 01:13:25.350 the opposite direction. 1496 01:13:25.789 --> 01:13:26.050 Okay. 1497 01:13:27.010 --> 01:13:30.069 Now, if I didn't mess around and got. 1498 01:13:29.949 --> 01:13:34.369 It confused or something, it was definitely, every once in 1499 01:13:34.390 --> 01:13:35.770 a while, I was like, okay, cool. 1500 01:13:37.329 --> 01:13:42.329 But I was going home. So what do you think 1501 01:13:42.350 --> 01:13:47.829 should happen? They should cut you loose? Did I say that? No, 1502 01:13:47.890 --> 01:13:53.529 I'm asking. What do you think should happen? I mean, 1503 01:13:54.489 --> 01:13:56.850 of course I'm going to think like everybody else and 1504 01:13:56.890 --> 01:13:58.630 just want it all to be over. But we live 1505 01:13:58.689 --> 01:14:00.710 a life. Okay? 1506 01:14:03.020 --> 01:14:06.439 Right now you're interviewing me and I'm thinking about my kids. 1507 01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:06.579 Okay? 1508 01:14:07.159 --> 01:14:08.899 How many kids do you have? I'm thinking about them. 1509 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:12.369 I'm not telling you that. I'm thinking about Me not 1510 01:14:12.390 --> 01:14:14.510 being able to see my kids. You got kids? 1511 01:14:14.890 --> 01:14:15.189 Mm-hmm. 1512 01:14:15.970 --> 01:14:18.590 Have you ever thought about how you're not able to 1513 01:14:18.630 --> 01:14:19.109 see kids? 1514 01:14:19.890 --> 01:14:25.149 I've never gotten online and had a conversation with somebody. 1515 01:14:25.170 --> 01:14:28.750 The reason you're here is because you got into a 1516 01:14:28.789 --> 01:14:32.949 conversation with somebody. So we talk about all kinds of 1517 01:14:32.989 --> 01:14:36.289 big picture societal problems, but the fact is, had you 1518 01:14:36.329 --> 01:14:39.029 not had the conversation, you wouldn't be here tonight. 1519 01:14:39.130 --> 01:14:42.710 Yes, sir. Okay. I'm not saying you won't. Okay. Well, 1520 01:14:42.729 --> 01:14:45.409 what I am saying you're wrong on is, sir. 1521 01:14:45.489 --> 01:14:48.729 I would like for you to get more than just 1522 01:14:48.789 --> 01:14:51.109 that one and tell your viewers just that one. 1523 01:14:51.180 --> 01:14:52.939 Well, I'm going to get it all. I'm going to 1524 01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:55.619 have a whole chat. So, is there anything else you 1525 01:14:55.640 --> 01:15:00.380 want to tell me? Okay. Well, Ryan, thanks for talking 1526 01:15:00.420 --> 01:15:16.119 to me. I appreciate it. Good luck to you. Hey Brian, 1527 01:15:16.140 --> 01:15:17.779 you alright? You need to go to the bathroom or anything? 1528 01:15:18.060 --> 01:15:19.270 Yeah, I need to go to the bathroom. 1529 01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:20.170 Okay, here's what I'll do. 1530 01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:21.909 I'm going to put your handcuffs up front. Alright, so 1531 01:15:21.930 --> 01:15:23.090 you can go do what you got to do. 1532 01:15:23.329 --> 01:15:29.949 Let me get out of here. Do you need any 1533 01:15:29.989 --> 01:15:32.189 more water? No, you got a full bottle right. 1534 01:15:33.590 --> 01:15:33.710 Here. 1535 01:15:33.750 --> 01:15:39.550 All right, man. You want me to bring my bottle? 1536 01:15:39.569 --> 01:15:42.869 You can leave it on speaker, unless you want. 1537 01:15:55.430 --> 01:15:59.510 Terry was arrested following the July 2025 undercover operation in 1538 01:15:59.550 --> 01:16:04.840 Marion County, Florida. Subsequent reporting identified him as convicted, although 1539 01:16:04.850 --> 01:16:08.600 the precise sentence could not be independently confirmed. You've been 1540 01:16:08.659 --> 01:16:12.420 listening to True Crime from Podcast Studios. Thanks for being here, 1541 01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:13.960 and we'll see you in the next one.