Full Transcript for From Uncle Luke to Congressman? Celebrity, Community, and Political Power Guest Luther “Uncle Luke” Campbell

the Brown say something that I promise you until the day I die, I will scream it to the mountaintops from Breonna Taylor to Nolan Wells and all the people in between that have never had to face a real accountability for whatever their role may have been in the death of people who didn't do anything at all, even yeah, didn't do anything to deserve their lives to be taken or an injustice to be done to them. I'm with tab At the Brown that I hope you never rest in your life. I hope that when you go to sleep at night, that the demon that you are comes to haunt you and toys with you in your dreams for the rest of your life. I don't know for sure that anybody killed Nolan Wells. I don't know, none of us know yet for sure. But what I do know is now I'm listening to my sister Tesling Figaros speak on the different shows that she's doing where they have listened to this audio that this black woman has put out where she's authenticated the audio. Now it is being reconfirmed, but nevertheless the audio, it appears to be real. There's some real serious shit that happened to Nolan Wells, and people are really covering it up, like really Incohutes. And I've been careful because I see now they're trying to sue Ben Crump. I see their game that when they know that you are somebody who has who's influential, and you have a voice, they like to try to distract the people by coming after you versus just tell the truth about what the hell went down. And so I've been real careful and sitting back and waiting to really let things come because I believe God is going to reveal the full story here. But I'm with Tabitha Brown. I pray, I prayed A and Daddy's and their grandparents and their children and their grandchildren and their great grandchildren will never have peace a. 00:09:08 Speaker 1: Day in their life. 00:09:09 Speaker 4: I pray that Nolan Wells, that Nolan Wells spirit will come into their family occasions in the middle of the night when people are trying to sleep and shake every pot, every door, every bed, that they will run out of their skin, and that they will end up being in mental institutions because they can't get no peace. 00:09:33 Speaker 1: In their lives. 00:09:35 Speaker 4: For those who know what happened, have and have not to this point, it's too it's already too late. So even if they tell the truth now, it's too late. They've traumatized the family. A young boy is dead. So whatever it is, I pray that their great great great grandchildren have to say that their family has been cursed with the spirit of a demon that has has come to haunt them for generations, and that everybody in the neighborhood, everybody knows, don't live around them because they lights and shit flick off and on at night when they trying to sleep. 00:10:12 Speaker 1: That's what I pray happens to me. 00:10:13 Speaker 3: Hey man, I mean, when I think about the Nolan world, situation is very it's very disconfused. And I think the confusion part for me is that there are so many people mad at a mother and a father who just want to know what happened to the child. Like I've never seen people so confused or so angry because the mother wants to know what happened to a child and what you is telling me having to my child just doesn't make it just doesn't add up. And I've never seen and the way they're using black people to be on the front line and advocate and talk about it like something's wrong, and they're trying to attack Ben Crump and the lives about Ben Crump, and Ben Crumb just does this and he's just that, and it's so crazy to me like the fact that you're mad at a lawyer because he's doing his job. The lawyer's job is to bring awareness to the case, right, make people aware of what's going on, and then go and get the best possible outcome for his client. 00:11:16 Speaker 2: So why you mad because that's what he does. Oh, Ben Crump just comes. 00:11:20 Speaker 5: No. 00:11:20 Speaker 2: Ben Crump knows exactly what he's doing. 00:11:22 Speaker 3: He knows that if you cover it up and he's quiet about it, then you walk into these courtrooms and nobody knows what's going on, then y'all can silently and have a kangaroo court and just tell us anything. He knows that if the world knows and sees everything that's going on, then the world advocates, and you can't just continue to lie and cheat the world. 00:11:41 Speaker 2: And he's the best at doing what he does. 00:11:44 Speaker 4: Ben Crump says, there's two courts. There's the court of the actual courthouse of public opinion, and he makes sure that God forbid we lose in the building court. We're going to win over the truth by the people. Right, And that's important because you can't be rocked asleep if you've got somebody and you could choose to be but if you've got somebody that has the resources. Because you think about Ben for they said, oh, he makes so much money. Yeah, but you know how much it costs to put money into investigations and how many of the people if you think about I don't know what Nolan Wells family's financial situation is, but when I think of when I look at these other cases, a lot of cases that Ben is on for the most part, the people who are killed by the police and or you know, people who are living in vulnerable populations, which is where most of these injustices take place. Generally, they are people who don't have a lot of means, and Crump's office takes on the responsibility of paying out to get investigations done if they feel like the case is viable. They cannot do it for everybody, and no sense. And you trying to take Pooky case over there where you know, Pookie done shot the man. You already know that, and you down there trying or even that that Pooky was in some mess and got killed. And then you over here talking about yo, you know they did him wrong and we want investigation. 00:13:14 Speaker 1: Pooky was down there robbing and stealing them. 00:13:18 Speaker 4: People done shot Pooky down there in that mess that he created. If he he has

he takes on cases that he believes that I can do something. I've listened and you and you got to have intuition to be a being crump your stomach. 00:13:33 Speaker 3: Why would you Why would you take cases where you don't see that is viable, where you can't even prove anything to anyone. Like people say, oh, you only take the cases that's high profile. Well, mainly the times, most of the times that a case is high profile is because there's a clear there's there's something clear. People are advocating like whoa, this doesn't make sense. So when you when when that comes to your attention, you look and say, wow, out there really is something here, like you know, and that's what a real lawyer should do. Most lawyers just take your money and they say, oh yeah, we're just gonna handle you and we're gonna take this and we're gonna just get a set. No, I'm only taking cases that I believe that we actually are on the right side of the law. And that's what he's supposed to do. So, you know, shout out to Ben crump Man, I say, he's amazing. He's a not only fearless. But he's a good person. 00:14:25 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 00:14:26 Speaker 3: He's a very good person man, And I know that in his line of work, the tax day gets I know just how good of a person. I know it bothers him sometimes, but he knows he's on the right side of history and he's on the right side of the law. So I just want to shout out to Ben, we love you man, keep doing what you do. 00:14:42 Speaker 1: You know, justice for Nolan Wells. 00:14:45 Speaker 4: And on August nineteenth, which is Nolan Well's birthday, there are some of us who will gather in Martha's vineyard because we will not be able to go down to Mississippi. It's not it's not easy to go back and forth. By the way, we need to talk about how the airlines have lost their damn minds because the price of a ticket is unreal to get around in this country right now. But we're going to hold space for Nolan Wells, allow the community to come together so that we can have a prayer, visual for his family, for Crump and the entire legal team, and just for the truth to be told. But also I by myself, I'm not nobody else because other people will say, I ain't praying nothing bad over nobody, because that ain't good because it comes back to you behind me. 00:15:32 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be praying that. 00:15:34 Speaker 4: The spirit of a demon will show up for generations of their family. Because it's different if one person decides that they're gonna lie or they're going to conceal information, and. 00:15:46 Speaker 1: We don't know which ones no versus which one don't. 00:15:50 Speaker 4: Because the little white girls say, I wasn't over there at the time, and when we left. 00:15:55 Speaker 1: He won with us, and she done put pitches. 00:15:57 Speaker 4: And screenshots out to make it clear that she ain't involved. Now I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what she's trying to do. So somebody might know and somebody else might not. But when everybody comes together and nobody remembers anything, when the boys cell phone was with them and data on the phone has been removed, I mean, we gotta stop it. 00:16:21 Speaker 1: We gotta stop it. That is collusion. 00:16:25 Speaker 4: It is the same thing that those officers did to Brianna Taylor. When they went to that garage. They knew their asses were in trouble because the movement was strong. The whole nation was tuned into Brianna Taylor, right. Ben Crump was on the case, and Laanita and what's our other brother's name, our white brother. 00:16:51 Speaker 1: God sam Agyarll. Thank you for reminding me. 00:16:54 Speaker 4: They and we had that case as high as we could get it in turn terms of visibility, fighting to make sure that Breonna Taylor had a do not just do justice, but that there would be people who would say her name all over the world, and that when they saw that, they said, we got to do something because these and it was coupled. It was not a standalone. It was coupled with the fact that Kristin Clark was the Assistant Attorney General for the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division. So you had a black woman who comes out the movement, who can see this bull crap. She knows racism, and she knows injustice, and she also knows police violence. 00:17:43 Speaker 1: She was in her position in government. 00:17:46 Speaker 4: If you put the same facts around Breonna Taylor right, that we ended up finding out the truth because I remember when we used to be I'm not even doing a Thought of the Day today because we got to get to our guest. But if you remember, we was on Clubhouse. I had to make you delete Clubhouse off your phone. Do you remember that, Janie, When I had to I had to literally do because this is what I do to some of the guys around me. I have to spaz out and act like a complete Tasmanian devil so that people will listen to me. Sometimes because I can say over and over, hey, guys, stop talking to these people. Stop doing this thing. It's not good. Listen to me. Nobody listens. Nobody listens, and then I turn into a crazy person and I have to say things like you say I'm your leader, then God damn it, I'm leading you and I'm telling you to come aboard for you. Because my son was on that goddamn clubhouse arguing with people who are completely brainless like there, and not only are they brainless, they are plants. They are freaking plants. They are co and tell pro plants. That's where these people were, and he's up there arguing with them day like her boyfriend was a drug deal, she was hustling, she was whatever. None of those people came back to acknowledge that after all that that we'd been through, all that that we went through, the truth came out. 00:19:14 Speaker 1: Because the woman was pregnant. 00:19:15 Speaker 4: She didn't want to have her baby in jail, so she went and got her a deal and told the truth that all of those officers got together in the garage and came up with the story of lies that

they were going to tell on Breonna Taylor, and that's what they put out into the world. 00:19:37 Speaker 1: And when they did when they did that, when. 00:19:39 Speaker 4: They came forward with that information, that's where the house of cards fell apart and we began to see indictments and people having to go to court to stand up to what Daniel Cameron never had the balls to be able to do on his own. So, you know, I just I know what we being next to Mika and knowing what it's like. It's different like Sabrina Fulton is another person who we're close to, and I know that Sabrina is hurt that there's nothing. Sabrina and Tracy and Javares, they son brother killed, and you don't you know they we know the story, we know the truth. They know who was screaming help in the video. They know their child's voice, right. But it's only two people that were there to tell that story. There's two people, so you could say, you know, one person could say it was this and another person is dead, so there's no way to verify what this person says. But you've got all these individuals, including their parents, okay, that know about what happened to Nolan Wells, and for them to just stand together on hiding the truth or hiding the facts. Mm hmmm, Nah, it's not it's not cool. 00:21:06 Speaker 2: Well, the truth is since you're free, man, so. 00:21:08 Speaker 1: I don't know. Truth set them in jail. 00:21:11 Speaker 3: Oh no, it's gonna set it's gonna set it's family free and it's gonna you know, and it's gonna set them free, and it's gonna set the rest of them on fire. 00:21:20 Speaker 4: To the hell fire is not the hell fire? 00:21:24 Speaker 3: That hell fire is enough demons. Oh, the demons is. That's right, where the hell fires with the demons, that's. 00:21:30 Speaker 1: What they need. I love that. 00:21:31 Speaker 4: When the Brown said what she said, I said to myself, now, that's then what I'm talking about. I couldn't get what I wanted to say right. And then when she said, I said, thank you for freeing my belly. Make them not sleep a night in their life. I want them down. I want them to distrac to beds. 00:21:50 Speaker 2: Because I was gonna talk about with my show. 00:21:51 Speaker 3: I was watching but you you got too deep with it because I was watching Power. You know what I'm saying this is this is almost the last episode of Power. Man, I done got rid of my man, Uncle Marv Man, Uncle Marv. Shout out to my man ef Vera was one that he directed this episode and it was it was a dope. 00:22:09 Speaker 2: It was good. 00:22:10 Speaker 3: It was because Marv was probably my favorite. Shout out to my man London brown Man. He played amazing part as Uncle Marv and he you know, he and Canan killed him. 00:22:21 Speaker 2: You know. It's it's a lot of. 00:22:24 Speaker 3: Crazy stuff that goes on in Power, but it's one of my guilty pleasures that I actually watched and I enjoyed. Fifty did an amazing job with the show and his next episode is the last episode of the whole. 00:22:36 Speaker 2: Series, so they're not coming back on again. 00:22:38 Speaker 3: But I loved I loved the cast of it, and I love just the way the storyline because it's realistic. You know, it's like he really took you to an era in Queens that people can identify with. 00:22:49 Speaker 2: But you know, so that's what I've been watching. I ain't been watching the Indians and. 00:22:53 Speaker 1: All that Darklands is good. 00:22:55 Speaker 4: I'm telling you so many that you know what, another thing about darklands, and I'll be done after this. 00:22:59 Speaker 1: I'll say nothing about dark winds. 00:23:02 Speaker 4: The old lady because you know, in Indian culture, very much like African culture, is always an old lady who's the queen bee right, And the old lady is blind, but. 00:23:16 Speaker 1: She can think everybody that came through. One time, somebody was there who. 00:23:22 Speaker 4: Was an FBI agent and and and. 00:23:25 Speaker 1: He she didn't see him. 00:23:26 Speaker 4: He was just talking. He just came to visit because he was, you know whatever. He was just talking. And she pulled her grandson over and told him, say, everybody who say they one thing, ain't who they are who they say they are. She knew something was wrong with that man. 00:23:41 Speaker 1: Wasn't right. 00:23:42 Speaker 4: And but the son walked away and told her told and said out louds into the air. 00:23:47 Speaker 1: If you think I don't know, I ain't no fool, like he knew too. And then another thing the father. 00:23:54 Speaker 4: The son asked the father an immediate question, like how long you been standing outside his door listening to my conversation? And the father tells the son all your life, I've been standing right here. It's amazing. I was gonna say the grandmother. She said, she tells the story of how did things get like this. Somebody's asking, like, what the hell is going on around here, and she said, you know what happened. They let the white people come up in here and start moving around, and they start being friends with white people. And as soon as the white folk came, our rituals and everything that we do. 00:24:33 Speaker 3: But that's the history of the Native America or the Indian that's their history. 00:24:36 Speaker 1: So well, it's not just them, it's us too. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: But I'm saying, but exactly what it dates calling us, that's what they do. 00:24:44 Speaker 4: They do and create confusion unless they are people who are anti racist and also self aware. 00:24:56 Speaker 3: Listen, we have the legendary uncle Luke Luther Campbell coming up and he is running for Congress in Florida in the twentieth Congressional district and early voting is August eighth to the fifteenth, and the primary voting is eighteenth of August. 00:25:11 Speaker 2: Make sure you tune in. It's going to be a dope interview. 00:25:14 Speaker 3: He's gonna tell us why you should vote him if you live in Florida. 00:25:18 Speaker 2: Let's go. 00:25:19

Speaker 1: It is election season. 00:25:22 Speaker 4: A lot of folks running for all types of positions. It's a changing time in America. You know. 00:25:28 Speaker 1: I think there's. 00:25:28 Speaker 4: Always these moments in history that we can recall where things shifted. Different types of people and ideas are starting to you know, become more of the norm, if you will, in this country. And I think, you know, there's been others. We were talking about socialism last week, and there have been others certainly before Mam Donnie, but mayor Mam Donnie has absolutely ushered in for a lot of people this new idea that we don't have to just vote for a status quo people that all look the same and they speak the same, the same talking points, and you know, and they only their only value to us is what we were told by some other person who said this is who you have to vote for. People are starting to depart from that, and I think there is no one at all that represents a change in the dynamics of the country and the political you know, the political landscape of where we currently stand in our guests that we have with us today, that's right, and that is Luther Uncle Luke Campbell. All right, Look, we got Uncle Luke with us today, isn't that? 00:26:46 Speaker 2: And we don't just have him with us today. We have him here running for. 00:26:51 Speaker 1: Cons that's right, running for office. 00:26:54 Speaker 4: So Luke, as y'all know, is the pioneering founder of Two Live Crew, a music executive. Before people got into calling themselves music executives, there was Uncle Luke. 00:27:05 Speaker 1: The First Amendment advocate. 00:27:07 Speaker 4: Certainly he had to be that because there was a lot of First Amendment going on in his music, and you know, in surrounding his career, a entrepreneur, a long time youth football coach. 00:27:19 Speaker 1: People don't know that I actually did that. 00:27:22 Speaker 4: Luke for a long time has been a youth advocate and a football coach, and as you said, now a Democratic candidate for Congress. He is running in Broward County, which is the twentieth congressional district. This is the Democratic primary. So for those we've talked about this already that you can say, oh I heard about Luke running, Let me go out and vote for him. It's not you don't do it just once. If he wins the first time, you got. 00:27:51 Speaker 1: To do it again. 00:27:52 Speaker 4: You got to go back again and make sure that you help him to win. You know, the final election where he would be running against some other person or Republican obviously. And you know, we know lucas being a controversial figure but also an influential figure in hip hop, and now he is taking his influence in the world. 00:28:16 Speaker 1: People know him everywhere. 00:28:18 Speaker 4: There's no place that you can go in this entire nation that you don't either know him directly or know some music that he was involved in, some artists that he helped to raise and help them to become successful. And now taking that influence. And I'm sure all that he's learned, all that he has seen and bringing it to politics to hopefully enhance the lives of people in our community. So I'm excited that we've got Uncle Luke on here today with us. Were about to get into a good conversation. Thanks for coming. Thanks for you, Timashaw. 00:28:51 Speaker 2: How you feeling today, Uncle Louke. 00:28:53 Speaker 5: I feel good, man. 00:28:54 Speaker 6: It's another wide world day in the political land here in this landscape, So I feel great. 00:29:01 Speaker 2: I love the T shirt, man, let me see. I like that T shirt. 00:29:04 Speaker 5: Thanks man. Thanks, Yeah, you had got the whole thing right. Yeah. 00:29:11 Speaker 3: So I just I want to know, like the transition, like what made you decide like I really need to run for office? Like I know you ran for mayor before in Miami. What made you decide that you because I know, as a hip hop artist you don't have a lot of political views up there on the front line of this movement for a while, but taking that step into be in the political realm and being elected official is different. 00:29:35 Speaker 2: So what made you decide to do that? 00:29:37 Speaker 6: Well, you know, once again, thank you all for having me on your show today. I really appreciate it. The question is, you know, whether you're gonna sit on the sideline and just talk about it. 00:29:49 Speaker 5: Are you going to be a part of the solution. 00:29:51 Speaker 6: Are you just gonna talk about it not necessarily be a part of the problem. Like I said, I ran for mayor in the special election probably twelve years ago, and I at that time, I know it was a special election, short period of time, and I was I knew I was going to win, but I knew I could build a base of people that would help me move the needle as far as getting things done in our community. And after running, I was able to, you know, get a park rebuilt with twenty six million dollars of governmental funds, in another park rebuilt with sixteen million dollars. I was able to get a football stadium redid with three point five million dollars. And this is with our tax billion dollars. In the fact that the people who I endorsed, because of the people who I support, we were able to get those things done a lot more things that we were able to get done. And so which brings me to today today. I'm just you know, I look at the political climate as for what it is. 00:30:57 Speaker 5: We're going backwards and we're getting set back on so many other ways. 00:31:02 Speaker 6: I mean, they're taking away our history when it comes to Florida and books and you know, and the government is falling suit to what you got Donald Trump and then he's doing what he has to do for his people, which I respect. But when you start attacking us as a people, then I have a problem with that. And then you know, it comes down to what resources are really coming back to my congressional district. You

know, people are facing you know, seniors are facing high costs of Medicare, they're getting Medicare and Medicaid cut, they're getting They're got to deal with the high costs of insurance, you know. 00:31:41 Speaker 5: And here in Florida, you got you. 00:31:44 Speaker 6: Have insurance, you got homeowners insurance and then you got taxes and so all those things the top skyrocketing. Meanwhile, you know, the cost of living is going up, in what you're making in your bank account is not going up, and so betweeny seniors and for the housing issues with that, and then you have no pathway for a lot of these young people, you know, to get a trade. And there are ways that we could do some things to better the quality of life. And I have a great plan. You know, by being in the political realm on a regular basis, I can get some of those things done. 00:32:23 Speaker 5: I understand the process. 00:32:26 Speaker 4: And so running for mayor helped you to educate yourself on the ins and outs of politics, because it's a difference between being a staffer being you know, a person who may be very much so politically engaged in actually being the candidate. 00:32:43 Speaker 1: You really learn that it is not easy. It's no joke. 00:32:46 Speaker 4: So if you came back for a second time to run for office again, there must have been some inspiration or something that happened that you said, you know what, we didn't win this time, but we can go back and do it again. 00:32:59 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:33:00 Speaker 6: I got sick and tied of being second tied, you know again, my first run was Everything about Two Life Crew was politics. 00:33:10 Speaker 5: It was all political driven. 00:33:12 Speaker 6: Whether or not African Americans had the same right to say the same thing on the record that Anglo has, whether or not you know, the First Amendment applies to us, you know, those things. I was fighting all the way to the Supreme Court, the United States Supreme Court, and getting cases overturned that was against me. 00:33:32 Speaker 5: And they're literally going to jail for free speech. 00:33:36 Speaker 6: And so when I look at my career, I look at my political side of my career started then before it started running. 00:33:44 Speaker 5: And how I was raised. I was raised by my Jamaican dad and my Bahamian uncle. You know. You know, if you know anything. 00:33:52 Speaker 6: About Islanders, politics plays a major role in our life. 00:33:56 Speaker 5: We vote one hundred percent, you know. 00:33:59 Speaker 6: And they taught me, you know, I couldn't look at cartoons on the weekend. 00:34:03 Speaker 5: I had to read up. 00:34:05 Speaker 6: On h Rap Brown and and I had to uh look at uh look at videos and read books on the struggle and civil rights and understand where we were at. And they always told me, hey, look, you need to you need to understand these things. They taught me what propaganda is and how propaganda is and the narratives and all those things. And so I was the perfect person for the government to come after when they came after me, and which was a real attack on hip hop more so than anything, because they didn't understand it. They just used me as a part of the game. And so I was a perfect person to fight. And you know, we took that fight all the way to the Supreme Court and we won. You know, we uh when they deemed my record I've seen, we got that overturn in the Federal court. 00:34:52 Speaker 5: You know. Uh, some you know more. 00:34:55 Speaker 6: Important, some very important cases that allow people to do what they're doing right now todays. So I've been thrown into politics, you know, from that standpoint, and I do understand the political landscape how important it is to get a group of people to go out and vote and there and support a candidate. And when you support that candidate, you get things done in your community. 00:35:16 Speaker 5: And so you know, I. 00:35:18 Speaker 6: Always been a king maker, you know, and I figure come from behind the curtains and go and do the job. 00:35:24 Speaker 5: And that's why I'm running. 00:35:26 Speaker 3: You know what was important for me when you said that as a result of your first campaign, you were able to get park changed, right, you people you endorsed. You're able to get millions of dollars to get parks rebuilt, to get football stadiums, and a lot of people don't understand that. You know, a lot of people act like there's nothing your vote doesn't count. And that just shows you that when you're doing the right thing and you're connecting yourself to people who have the best interests of your community in hand, then you can get investments in your community, you can get things back for your community. So that was really important for me. I was sitting here thinking, you know, you're the second. You're actually gonna be the second person. Shout out to my brother Dupray Kelly from He's in Newark. He's one of the Lords of the Underground and he's actually a councilman out in New York right now and I just was with him the other day. So if you win, you'll be the second, actually second hip hop artist that's been involved in the government. So how would that feel for you? But how would that feel to you? 00:36:28 Speaker 6: It will feel good, It will feel really really good because I would be part of changing the status quote in Washington, because when you look at a majority of our African American political leaders. They come from a different part of our community, and more of the elite part of our community is not necessarily too many people in my opinion, that are part of the that could really say they are part of the culture. It would be it would be tremendous because for me, it'll be full of sar. Here are laws that was created to stop what I was doing, that put me in the court of law. 00:37:10 Speaker 5: And now I'm a lawmaker. I can go in and. 00:37:16 Speaker 6: I can pass bills to protect artists. The last time I went to Congress lobby and I

went on be Afanaris to help kids, you know, get instruments, you know, lobby to get money for the Grammys to be able to help kids around the country purchase us purchase interestments for them. And unfortunately, one of the guys who I got to talk to was a guy who see them running for right now, which is l se hasty. And so when you get to go to Congress, because you know, Congress runs all the money, you get to create policies that directly affect us as a people. All my programs that I created, my youth program, I know it reads I'm a coach, but now more so a little bit more than that, we created a youth program Live the City Optimist over we've been at. Our program has been around for over forty years, almost forty years now. 00:38:15 Speaker 5: Is probably one of the top programs in the nation when. 00:38:18 Speaker 6: It comes to development of youth education wise as well as sports. And through our program, we're able to educate those kids. And through our program and through my political activism, I can go get those federal grant dollars. 00:38:36 Speaker 5: And when you look at the program, everybody wants to be like the program. 00:38:39 Speaker 6: They look at us as the as the shining star, and as the gold standards of program. So when I look at me running I win this race, I would create a district as the gold star and the standards of how every other black congressional district should look like and be. You know, my whole platform is about bringing back Black Wall Street to this district. You know, circulating the dollar, you know, bringing real jobs, not the fifteen dollars hour jobs. You know, Yes, I got to protect SNAP benefits in Medicare and Medicaid, but I don't expect with me as the congressman, to continue halving my people on SNAP after my. 00:39:28 Speaker 5: Six years because I'm only going to stay there six years. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: You just like that. 00:39:31 Speaker 1: They always say that, they always say that, but. 00:39:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not you got you would you would have to raise somebody or they would have to be somebody there. And let me not use the word raise, nurture and help the next person so that they can be ready, because there's not always a person who's right there at the time, and you don't want to just leave it. The work that you have, you know, have built and put your blood, sweat and tears too. So you know, you say six years, but I don't know. 00:40:04 Speaker 6: You know, there is a young man in this race, a candidate that's running in this race, and I say it. You know, I'll say things that normal candidates don't say, because I don't think I'm a normal candidate. You know that young man, I think, you know, I would take him and hire him and get him prepared to take over this job. Because again, when we look at this job, I'm losing money. You know, I'm taking a real l to go and do this job. This job only page one hundred and seventy thousand dollars. I know some people that's a lot of money, but you know, I'm willing to take the sacrifice to actually lose money to do this job. But my job would be to bring somebody else up, you know, within And if you look at my history, you look at my history, I mean the guys who worked for me, was it was Jeff Sanchez, now I work for the NBA Entertainment, a big teacher who owns House of Mac. Whether it was Pitt Buller where I found off the street trick Daddy Why who came out of prison and stayed with me and put him on the record and helped him with his career. More so just being an artist, being entrepreneurs. And so when you look at my history, I'm always bringing the next person up. I'm always teaching or reaching one teaching whatever. I've always said, hey, look, this is not a place where you're gonna retire. At this place where you're gonna get the knowledge and you're gonna go on and run your own business. And all of the guys who work for me, and all of the guys who came up under me, you know, they are doing very well. 00:41:39 Speaker 5: You know. That's why I laugh. 00:41:41 Speaker 6: At the record when Jay Z said, oh day made million, this made millions, I was like, Okay, well I got you by a long shot because I got a whole bunch of dudes on my list, on my list of guys who are very, very successful entrepreneurs and businessmen today. 00:41:58 Speaker 5: And so when I look at my congression district, I can do that. 00:42:01 Speaker 6: I can you know, bring I'm always going to bring another young guy up our lady and let them take over. 00:42:09 Speaker 5: You. 00:42:09 Speaker 6: Don't let them have it, because no, I'm not. I will not be there after six years. Trust me. I want to go on vacation right now. I'm in the third quarter of my life and I'm not gonna no. 00:42:22 Speaker 1: Way, You're not. You're not gonna stay forever. 00:42:25 Speaker 4: Like some of these guys where they can't even find Mitchell McConnell right now, they don't even know whether he's actually tomorrow is the deadline for them. 00:42:33 Speaker 2: You got to show proof for life, but. 00:42:35 Speaker 1: By tomorrow it's for real. 00:42:41 Speaker 4: I want to ask you then I'll kick it back to you. You because you were on the track of talking about the cases of your case, the case you fought where you won all the way at the Supreme Court level, and I just want to kind of circle back to that. I don't know if Johnny Cochran was your lawyer at the time. But he has defended you. He did while he was alive, right at one point, defend you on your First Amendment rights. Is that something that he just said publicly, because I know that he advocated for you, but I wondered if you actually worked with him. 00:43:11 Speaker 5: No, he advocated. He advocated for me. Uh uh. 00:43:15 Speaker 6: There was a lot of people involved that we called as as witnesses, you know, and and Johnny always advocated for me. Even even the guy will see them running for right now if they asked him questions when he was a federal judge at the time.

Alsie asen and they have the right to sing and do and say the things that they want to say on the record. If we were obviously we were able to prevail, you know, and then you know, see we had what we had. We had two cases. Well a lot of people don't realize we have one case where the parody was protected by the First Amendment. 00:43:47 Speaker 5: And that's the case that was more saving comedy. 00:43:51 Speaker 6: What he is where you can do satar you know, Saturday Night Live file the brief on our behalf. Michael Jackson filed a brief against US yeah, yeah, most people don't know that because a lot of people were imitating him and Dolly Parton and they thought they were copyrighting and fringing. You know, you had to wear Alcovich and all that, Bobby Jimmy and all them back in the days, so you know, and there Saturday Night Live imitating people. 00:44:18 Speaker 5: So they didn't too much like that. 00:44:20 Speaker 6: But it was our free speech and it was our First Amendment right to be able to do those things. And so then the other case was, you know, nasay is going to be well, federal judge deemed it. I've seen, and I got the case overturned in the federal court. And now, mind you, if I don't get it overturned, then it would be case law no different than the Man Act, you know what I mean, that's one of the books, and a undred years ago nobody got it overturned, and at some point they can use that case law against you. And so I understood the importance. I could have left the record. Yeah, I mean, the first record to be deemed I've seen first record taken off the shelf. It had been a hell of a collective's on them. But I looked at it as more it was more important for everybody behind me, So I didn't know it was gonna be sexy Red Lotto and Lil Wayne and all the rest of these people coming behind me saying what they're saying on record, are me going on stage and doing what you see Ausha and Chris Brown is doing. You know, I fought for the right for these people to be able to express themselves in the way that they want to express themselves, because I know it was much more of a bigger issue than it was just me, and so you know, that's why it was very important that we got that case overturned. So they're gonna be using a mad act against us, you know, that's a whole enough story, But I just used that therefore for people to understand that if you leave these these laws on the book, then they can use them against you whenever they want to. 00:45:56 Speaker 4: So it could be eventually it could be on black and I'm proud is illegal as well as your point, like, because they started to they have put many of us on a list. 00:46:06 Speaker 1: This was under William Barr, who was the head of the Department of Justice under Trump in his first term. They had a list that they established called the Black identity extremist, right, and so if you make it, you could make it to that list by doing anything that they deem being an extremist. So if you just too

love blackness too much and you out there protesting and fighting, who knows, they could make your voice and your your commentary illegal. So that's why I do support. 00:46:35 Speaker 4: I also understand the issue around lyrics and the words we say have in power, right, And I understand that, and you know, had some moments in my career where I challenged us as black folks to be more thoughtful about what we're putting into our children's ears, minds and all of that. At the same time, however, I support Kevin Lows and others who are fighting to ensure that we separate music from people's cases, their legal cases, because I don't think that one just because you created a song that should automatically deem you a criminal in any kind of legal matter. So I see the difference. I see both sides of it. I think there's always going to be two side songs to every conversation when it comes to black folks because we are disenfranchised so much, we have to be careful to the point that you made yeah. 00:47:33 Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand. I always look at both sides of the argument myself too. 00:47:38 Speaker 6: But you know what, I do a little tests all the time when I see people because it I'm a og artist. And there are people who came up on the music and say, my mom beat me. You know, they took my takeaway when they heard it. They saw the album cover on the wall and they took it down and I got punished or whatever it is. And then I would say to them, did you come out all right? And then they says, yeah, I'm okay. Well, they say I was corrupting the minds of young people. That's what see who the Norris Tucker said in typical and I'll go wife, And they said I was corrupting the minds of young people by putting out a record saying hey, we want some. And I said, and that's why I asked them all that, did you come out okay? 00:48:26 Speaker 5: Yeah? So what's your professor. 00:48:28 Speaker 6: I'm a doctor, I'm a lawyer, I'm a a congressman, I'm a cog, I'm this, I'm that, I'm yeah, I came out already. 00:48:37 Speaker 5: So they be baffled by when I asked them that. 00:48:39 Speaker 6: And so I say that to say this, that is my little test that at the end of the day, you know, music is no different than it's a form of entertainment, and it's really not taking that serious like most people would take it like, you know, because of me being a product of it, being the probably the first to put explicit lyrics on a record, and having a whole generation of people listen to it, engage in it, purchase it, dance to it, become a fan of it, and they all came out right. 00:49:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I think it is. 00:49:18 Speaker 4: I think music is taken very seriously because you know, we've had music be. 00:49:24 Speaker 1: A big part of our freedom struggles. 00:49:26 Speaker 4: It has also been a big part of our spiritual connection, if you will, and so music is important. But I do think that there are genres right, and there is there is a such thing as entertainment. It always has been, which is why I refuse to. 00:49:41 Speaker 1: Condemn Young Miami. I know that spend that. I get it. 00:49:46 Speaker 4: The scammers and the boosters are going to jail, getting killed, all the things. I understand it. I don't disagree with it, and I think people should be allowed to speak to how it makes them feel and how how they want to protect their children. So I don't condemn see the lords Tucker. I think there are some things that she said that were one hundred percent right and that we have retro when we think back and sit down with our you know, with our history, we can look at how some of these things have been used against us. However, there are genres of everything. There's genres of music. 00:50:20 Speaker 1: Some of it. 00:50:21 Speaker 4: Nothing is going to be all clean and straight line all the time. And guess what, I don't want to live in that kind of world. I like spind that and that's just it. 00:50:31 Speaker 1: I like this song. 00:50:32 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of music for different people and for different times, you know, like you said, there's a lot of people. I grew up on some of the worst music in the world. And a lot of my friends who's college graduates and this and that. We was listening to Mob Deep and we listening to Mop We listening to you know, everybody, everybody that was the most gangster people in the world. And they none of them do nothing that was gangs, you know what I'm saying. So music is just we just enjoy a lot of people just like to enjoy it because it gives them a glance into something that they've actually never been involved in. So you know, it's just like a movie. And I tell people all the time, we like jay Z said, man scar Faced the actor, that more than Scarface the Rapid did for me, you know, it made me more criminal minded than Scarface the Rapid did. So that's just my perspective on that. But since we're talking about you being controversial and always saying called truck, I've seen this week that you was very angry on the internet about you said that you you were so mad that you agreed with Trump. 00:51:32 Speaker 2: So I knew that this You was pissed off. 00:51:36 Speaker 3: When I said when Luke said he agreed with Trump, and he said, I never thought out of you were Trump, you know, and he was talking you were talking about voting and ballots and people taking back. So explain to me what happened, because I want to understand what made you agree with Trump. 00:51:52 Speaker 5: So a large part of my anger is in my election. 00:51:56 Speaker 6: Right in my election, you have, you know, one of the candidates and I said, it's one of these two women candidates. 00:52:06 Speaker 5: In my election. 00:52:07 Speaker 6: So I didn't want to narrow it down to one individual, one person actually one of the women candidates told a friend of mine that told me about what the other woman candidate was doing, which was what they call ballot

harvesty. You know, something that Trump has been talking about, but he didn't He don't talk about it in that manner. He doesn't put a name on what it actually is because Republicans do it too. And so I'm here in this race and get reports of people doing ballot harvesting. People going to a senior's house and they can look on an app and the app tells you that this person received a male in ballot, and this person received a male in ballot, but they did not turn the ballot in. And so you can identify those individuals. Look at the address, call them phone. That number is on on all of the data reports. You can call them up, or you can go to the house and actually go in and say, hey, look, Ms Martha. I know you're eighty five years old and you don't want to go to the uh. 00:53:21 Speaker 5: You don't want to get in your. 00:53:22 Speaker 6: Car and go to the polls because your gas price is high, your food price is high, your insurance and your tax and all these things out of control. And I know you're gonna have time to go and drop this ballot off. I'll come drop it off for you. 00:53:37 Speaker 5: And so these are things that these guys, these these. 00:53:42 Speaker 6: One of these individuals are doing, maybe a couple of them are doing it because that is something that's customary in in uh in politics, which is a sad thing because it's illegal to do. 00:53:55 Speaker 5: That, but nobody talks about it. 00:53:58 Speaker 6: You know, Trump talks about about Yeah, he says, yeah, it's voting is voted fraud with mail in ballots, and this is what That's why I say I agree with him in this case, and I hate to being agreeing with in agreeance with him, you know, which he's always accused the Democratic Party of doing. And you know, I keep it, I keep it. I'm just I'm just different. I'm not your traditional Democrat. If a Democrat is making a mistake, I'm gonna call it out. If a Republican is making a mistake, I'm gonna call it out for the mere fact though, you know, it's about the people, man. 00:54:35 Speaker 5: The people should not be defrauded. 00:54:37 Speaker 6: People should not be growth going and taking advantage of seniors who can't afford to even take the ballot to a box. They shouldn't be running again anyway, because they put these people in these predicaments because they're a career politicians. They should be out, they should be fired, you know what I'm saying. At the same time, so it deeply upseted me that they're actually doing that in a Democratic primary race. I mean, if you gonna cheat somebody, cheat the Republicans, which I would never do because I'm not a cheating person, but cheat them, don't cheat your fellow Democrat. But at the same time, say that you're running a real clean race when you're doing illegal things because you got a ton of money and you are desperate and you could do those things and so on that. On that note, I agree with him. But at the same time, you know, we have to do we have to do better, and that's how we get good representation. But and that's how you get the wrong representation. You know, you literally taking the old lady vote and then opening up the ballot. If it's rolled in ink, and if it's not for your candidate, you throw it in the garbage. 00:55:46 Speaker 5: If it's rolling pencil, then you scratch it out. And then what do you do? 00:55:50 Speaker 6: You are then put it in the in the box I mean, that's what these people are doing. That's totally illegal, you know, and that's how we end up with the wrong representation when we thought we vote for the right person. 00:56:02 Speaker 5: Hm. 00:56:03 Speaker 1: Hm, that's interesting. So that's what ballot? What is it harvesting? 00:56:08 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like harvesting the fruit. 00:56:09 Speaker 1: That's what it's called. 00:56:10 Speaker 4: So this is I just want to make sure to say it again for my own understanding. It is when candidates go to people, probably mainly elderly and disabe or other abled individuals, and tell them you don't have to worry about taking your ballot and I'll take it in and take it in and mail it for you. So, now, what are you saying happens at that point that if they look at the ballot, which they. 00:56:37 Speaker 1: Are going to do for the most. 00:56:39 Speaker 4: Part, and they find out that the pert that most of these people didn't vote for them or whatever you think, that that's where voter disenfranchisement happens, when maybe some of them get lost or like, what do you think is the issue? 00:56:51 Speaker 1: You don't you don't feel like. 00:56:52 Speaker 3: They're said the change he said, he's change changing, or they throw them away if they if they're in ink and it's not for the candidate. They throw them away and if it's in pensive then they change it. 00:57:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, it gets It's just more interesting than that because you have these ballot harvests. They go to senior citizen and homes on a year round basis. It's that's their business. They go there on a senior citizen on a year round basis. They take the seniors to the beach, they take the seniors to the park, they take them to the movies, they they take them to bowling, they buy dinners for them, They build a relationship with. 00:57:33 Speaker 5: Them, and they know them. 00:57:35 Speaker 6: Oh, hey, Bob, there's Bob. Bob does all this poking around. Bob then say look here, y'all, give me a balete. 00:57:42 Speaker 5: I'll take it and fill it out. 00:57:44 Speaker 6: For you guys, and and drop it in the box for you. That's a ballot harvest. The guys who get paid plenty of money by a campaign who has a bunch of money and they paid them as a consultant because they have a relationship with the senior home and they'll grab all those ballots and what they'll end up doing is get those individuals. 00:58:06 Speaker 5: To both for them. 00:58:07 Speaker 6: Why yeah, and it only it really really only a large part of it only happens in African American senior senior homes. 00:58:16 Speaker

5: I went and spoke the other day at a senior. 00:58:19 Speaker 6: Home John Knox in in Pompado Beach. 00:58:24 Speaker 5: All white. 00:58:25 Speaker 6: My opponent Debbie Uh, she shows up to the only all white forums, showed up there, and they're not gonna do those folks. 00:58:35 Speaker 5: They ain't no batter hobst going up in there. 00:58:39 Speaker 6: It's a five star senior home for uh, and it ain't no black people up in there, so they ain't gonna do them. 00:58:45 Speaker 5: Now, you're gonna have to go. 00:58:46 Speaker 6: There as as a lake of the fish as a candidate, and you're gonna to speak to them people, and then they're gonna make their own decisions. Nobody's gonna harvest still ballot. Matter of fact, the UPS is gonna come to. 00:58:58 Speaker 1: You know, to come figure up the US. 00:59:00 Speaker 5: Yeah, they click it up by doors. 00:59:02 Speaker 2: So what do you think should happening? 00:59:03 Speaker 3: Because my thing is this when I look at when I listen to that, right, there's an issue because these these elderly people probably can't make it to the balance, right they either mail an they ballots or somebody. So what do you think the process to where they're not disenfranchised and they actually getting a vote right and it's not taking away from them. What do you think needs to be done to protect those things from happening and actually protect those seniors vote from getting the vote that they want to have. 00:59:28 Speaker 6: Well, it needs to I mean you you know when you when Donald Trump in the federal government controls who is the head of the of of our of our mail, you know that person you need to change. You need to change how you do business if you know that these things are occurring, you know during election time, you know that these people are suffering, and a lot of people are disability and you know they're in these situation. Wait, say hey, look you can put a drop box right there on the site. You know you know what I'm saying. It's your little little simple things. You can you can have somebody go door to door and say, hey, look today we're going to be you know, put your I got the big bag. I'm from the I am from the I work as al and just put it in the bag right now. And that male carrier then takes it and on that particular day and takes it, you know, because they can't get to the pope. You know, if they can't get to the pole, then okay, you got your ballot all right. Now, there needs to be more regulation when it comes to senior homes. They got to do a better job and not allowing these people on their campus to be taking these people and you know, taking them and grooming them to be able to use them for the for quoting purposes. They need to identify that also. But then again, a lot of these senior homes, the directors are put in by elected officials, and these elected officials put these directors in allowing these people to do that. So you know, it's again the solution is you know, because I'm like you, it's all about the. 01:01:13 Speaker 5: Solution of what do we do. 01:01:14 Speaker 6: What do we do is not allow any outside entity to come into the senior homes. It's no different than the high school because a lot of these people are elementary, our kindergarten. A lot of these people are in the stages where they need to be taken care of. That's why they're in a senior home. 01:01:33 Speaker 5: You know. 01:01:34 Speaker 6: It's like you know, you send your kid the elementary and there they are to be taken care. If you send them daycare, there they'll be taking care. You ain't letting anybody walk in that daycare. That daycare is protected, you know what I'm saying. When that mama dropped that baby off in that daycare, anybody and everybody ain't coming up in a daycare. You're going to have to be a part of the staff of that daycare in order for you to be walking there. And we can put those type of measures in place where outside entities don't come into these senior homes and these disability facilities to do these type of things. 01:02:09 Speaker 4: No, I hear you on that, And I'm wondering, we got to check to see if this is happening in New York because it may be the same. 01:02:16 Speaker 1: You know, I want to be able to say we don't do that in New York, but you. 01:02:20 Speaker 4: People probably don't think it happens in Florida. You know, it's just that's that's actually it's predatory. Really, I mean, you can't trust because humans are going to get over if they can. Some humans, a lot of humans, and you know, and that's that's an unfair way to win an election. 01:02:38 Speaker 6: So hey, you they talk about that's why they're talking about the girls doing the record talking about the scammers and the boosters. 01:02:45 Speaker 4: What's the difference, Well, we said we always say that the main thing, there's a lot of that's right. Let's talk about popularity over real public service. You know, some people, because they are popular, they believe that they are entitled to position to support to whatever you know, to yeah to the support and votes, or you know, or for people to whatever they want to do to just get behind them. But public service and popularity are not the same thing. Sometimes you have people who are great public servants that you never know their names. 01:03:29 Speaker 1: You talk a little bit. 01:03:30 Speaker 4: About that that transition for you from yes, you are very popular individual, but having to in many ways humble yourself in communities around people. I know I have to all the time that I'm nowhere. I'm not Uncle Luke, but you know I'm well known. And nevertheless, when I go into communities, I have to remember that people do not care about your last hit, they don't care about your book you wrote and all of that. 01:03:54 Speaker 1: They want to know what can you do to serve the people? 01:03:58 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a I mean, it's a great, great question because I look at the qualification pick right,

they sent us tell hass it. 01:04:11 Speaker 5: We all got to go in and fill out. 01:04:12 Speaker 6: Perform to qualify, and nowhere on the qualifying form it tells you that you have to. 01:04:20 Speaker 5: Perform x amount of hours of community. 01:04:22 Speaker 6: Service, which I think you should you or to qualify. It shouldn't be just about a check. It should be about your community service. What have you done to qualify you to be able to run for public office? To be representing people when you never represent people before, because you have a lot of money, and you can buy an election, because most elections are purchased anyway, because they look at an. 01:04:50 Speaker 5: Individual and how many people that are voting, and. 01:04:52 Speaker 6: Say, let's put a number on how often do I need to send information to that person eight times? It's going to cost me this amount of money to get information to that person eight times in order for me, in order for me to convince them to vote for me. So, yes, there is a thing of popularity, and then there's a thing of I got enough money, I can buy this election and create them, then create the popularity for myself. Everybody is not built for elections, I think you know, like for me, Yes, I have name recognition that saves a ton of money. 01:05:30 Speaker 5: I don't have to explain to. 01:05:31 Speaker 6: Nobody what I'm all about, who I am, where I came from. 01:05:35 Speaker 5: When it comes to South Florida. 01:05:37 Speaker 6: If I was running president of the United States, then that would be a different story because the average person in Oklahoma might not know who I am. But the average person here has grown up with me. And I think you have to have did a large part of community service to be able to get on the stage and say, you know, like I look at my opponents and I say, the Debbie you know who was an incumbent who jumped in our race, which I think is disgusting that she's in our race. 01:06:10 Speaker 5: She never held a job. 01:06:12 Speaker 6: She went portrayed from the University of Florida into politics, and she ended up being in an elected official started in nineteen ninety two. She never held the job, she never owned a small business. But yeah, and still she gets to get elected or reelected. It's because of money, because you can't relate to a person who has a job and who has gotten fired. You can't relate to a person who owns a small business knowing that, oh I got to rob Pete and pay Paul to get these bills done, and I actually started a small business. So how can you relate to these people. You never went and did community service, you know. So I look at each and every one of the candidates in this race, and then I look at myself and I say, okay, what qualifies you? Look owned a small business, got tons of artists, platinum records, tons of employees that became very successful people. I started a youth program. In my youth program, it's very successful program, over thirty five years old. A lot of top athletes, whether it's Chad Johnson and Davonte Friedman, was. 01:07:19 Speaker 5: You named it. 01:07:20 Speaker 6: I went and donated my services, and when my career died down, and went out and coached, and I coached some very fine guys like Amari Cooper and Carlton Davis and Sean Joseph and you name it. 01:07:32 Speaker 5: All these are very successful guys. But more importantly, I'm proud of the young ladies and the young men. 01:07:38 Speaker 6: Who came through my program, who are very successful individuals who went off to college, came back, got great jobs because of the education that we created. 01:07:47 Speaker 5: In my program. 01:07:49 Speaker 6: And I rebuilt at built parks, got money to build these organizations in these days, and I'm able to go and leverage my popularity with Adidas. 01:08:01 Speaker 5: I got an Adida's shirt on I'm sponsible adealers. I didn't jump out the. 01:08:05 Speaker 6: Window when Kanye West and everybody else said, because I know the amount of money Adidas put into my program, not my pockets, but into my community. So I can go and you know, use my popularity with Adidas and get broke a fifty million dollar deal with the entire school district so that they can have all the kids can have uniforms at the top of the line, and they could generate money. 01:08:33 Speaker 5: Through through through through their Adida's deal, you know. 01:08:37 Speaker 6: And so again, these are things that I do on a regular basis, you know, And I think those are the things that qualify you to be able to run and be able to expand on these type of things, you know, you know, on the next level as being the elected official and using the vision to be able to go and get some things done. 01:09:00 Speaker 5: I mean, look look at my strict. 01:09:02 Speaker 6: The port has not been expanded for sixty years now, mind you. The same people don't running against have held office a combined total of sixty two years. These people that are running who want to represent the same district combined total of sixty two years. The port has never been expanded in sixty years. So my plan calls for a five billion dollars port expansion. I can get the money from the infrastructure bill. We got a shortfall of one hundred and forty thousand homes. My plan calls for built by us for us, not built by them for them, but built by us for us. Another one billion dollars in the budget that I can take out to build affordable houses right here, my kids, a Prince's program. I got another one hundred and fifty million dollars I take out of the budget. Small businesses. People want to own small business, they want to enhance their business, another one hundred million dollars. Hey, look, I'm in an entertainment business. We don't have a tax credit here in Florida, which we should. I can create a tax credit, give another two hundred and fifty million dollars and encourage people to come down and shoot their movies and do productions, and give

a fifty percent tax credit for people in my district to be able to do that. That's creating jobs, that's creating opportunities, but that's doing it with a vision. Not one candidate in this race has ever raised any of these these concerns are thought outside of the box to get these things done, and the money is sitting there available for us. And so that's the type of candidate I am. That's a different person. But you got to be aware of that. You got to have built some parks. You got to have identify twenty six million dollars to rebuild a park in over Town, apply to community, and another sixteen million dollars to rebuild one in my in my park. You got to be creative, You got to know where the money and you got to go fight for it. 01:10:58 Speaker 3: The evolution is just just watching where you come from being a fan, just seeing your plight and hip hop and just growing into this individual. 01:11:07 Speaker 5: You know. 01:11:08 Speaker 3: Another controversial thing I remember a lot like last year right before the election, where you interview Kamala Harris right, and you apologize for your take on her, and that interview was really it was really touching to me because you was mad enough to admit, hey, I made a mistake, I misjudge you, and then I started doing my research and the communication. I know, Black women was probably trying to kill you before y'all did that interview because they wasn't playing about that but just to see you take ownership and just step into that interview. And it was a real touch in interview and it was one of the dopest interviews I had seen. So I just want to congratulate. 01:11:43 Speaker 2: What was that like? 01:11:44 Speaker 5: And man, I appreciate it what it was like, it was how it came about. 01:11:52 Speaker 6: Like I said, I wrote a column because you know what I did after I ran for office, I would write this column in the Miami Times. It was something similar to Village Voice. I think they owned by the same per company. Where you can be who you want to be, you can exercity, you can write how you really want to write, but you know they still, you know, do their fact checking. So I wrote the column and it was a very scathing column about everything that everybody else mentioned about it as before when she decided to run for president, and the most the greatest thing ever happened. And this is what most men don't do. And I encouraged men to do this. Lady got on the phone and called me up. I remember, like it was yesterday. I was working my son out, practiced training him baseball, ye out, just sweating and hoping that somebody called me to distract him. Because he wanted water and he wasn't getting none, and so she called me right then it was, you know, and we had a conversation, Hey, look, I want to talk to you about your little article, you know. 01:13:01 Speaker 5: And I was like, okay, who is this, this Senator Harris? 01:13:06 Speaker 6: And I was like, okay, you know, so I had all the respect in the world for her to step to me about something that I said, you know, in a column where most men are going around the corner and be part powering or if you see something about me, and they won't never step to another man, like just like this lady. She stepped to me and was like, okay, let's have a conversation about the entire column, in the entire article and things that that people sing. And we we literally stayed on the phone for about two hours. 01:13:39 Speaker 5: Wow, They're just having. 01:13:40 Speaker 6: A conversation and about who she is as a person, what she represents. 01:13:46 Speaker 5: You know. It got even deep, you know. I was like, oh, you ain't. 01:13:49 Speaker 6: No real sister, you know, and all that there, like everybody else says, you know, in a joking way, and well, okay, all right. 01:13:56 Speaker 5: What you put in your greens? I put in that, look, ham Hawk, I put in their turkey. 01:14:02 Speaker 6: But she was like, I put turkey in there, but you he was a straightening code when you was young where they put it straight in com man. 01:14:10 Speaker 5: Oh my mom put it on it on the stove. Okay, you know, something messing with her? Right, and it be game O. 01:14:16 Speaker 6: So you tested me, You're really trying to test and see whether I'm a real black woman. 01:14:19 Speaker 5: And it's like, okay, I'll let you know right now. 01:14:22 Speaker 6: I keep my gun on me, like right, and so no, we we just we hit it off to the point where the interview you saw, I actually went and volunteered my services on the campaign trail, you know, when she was running for president the first time before she became, before she became you know, Joe Biden's running. 01:14:46 Speaker 4: Right right right, because people forget that that she was actually a Democratic nominee, I mean Democratic candidate for president first. But where does that come from? Why do so many people question because like, she is black? 01:14:59 Speaker 1: To me? 01:15:00 Speaker 4: When I see her, I see a black woman. Before I met her, obviously, I've met her many times, but I don't see this thing. I don't why do people think that she's not black? What is it that maybe myself I don't know one of y'all could answer. 01:15:13 Speaker 2: I never I never didn't think she was black, So I can't really answer that. 01:15:17 Speaker 1: Well, where did that come from in your mind? 01:15:19 Speaker 4: Was it because are you one of those people that be sitting around watching Fox News Channel listening to them? 01:15:25 Speaker 5: No? No, no no. 01:15:26 Speaker 6: So my article wasn't really it was I was messing with her because I was saying, that's what people were saying. But my article wasn't really a down the lines of whether questioning whether she was black. 01:15:38 Speaker 5: You know, I look doing my research on her. I do know she was black. My article was more down the lines. 01:15:46 Speaker 6: Of policy, how how her travels up to you know, to where she was,

and those those were that's what my article. 01:15:55 Speaker 1: Would you say? 01:15:56 Speaker 6: I said to her, I said, well, people are questioning whether you're black. 01:15:59 Speaker 5: Let me sir, you're in a joking way, and we were. 01:16:02 Speaker 6: But where that comes from, that is the Republican Party. The Republican Party, Steve Banning, all them. They message well, they message better than than than the Democratic Party, and they're able to create narratives and they're able to get some of us, and they don't necessarily mean it's a celebrity to then push their narratives, whether it's on Twitter or whether it's on social media that you know, they question whether or not she's black. I mean she comes down the same damn near the same lineage as I have. I mean, my dad is Jamaican, her parents, her dadd is Jamaican. 01:16:36 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 01:16:37 Speaker 6: I think it's dad Jamaican, mom Jamaica is one of them Indian and you know, my mama is Bahamian. So so I would never you know, people people questioned my blackness and I laugh at them. 01:16:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, until we got to Kamala Harris. If you were any kind of black, you were black. In fact, it's it's been it's a very I don't want to say it's a racist trope, but it has been used as a racist trope against our communities that when people tried to insert that they were you know something else, Oh I'm Indian or I'm this or that, and they're like, yeah, no, if there was even a drop of blackness in you, you were black. And then when we got to Kamala Harris, it became that, well, no, she's not black because of you know other things that was in her bloodline. And I just think it's misogyny, and and it was, you know it was. It was misogyny. And it was also like a sort of like a reverse mind game on a lot of our people who actually fell for when really whether she was black or not was not important because guess what, it's a whole non black person there now, So what about that? 01:17:40 Speaker 2: You know, it's a. 01:17:41 Speaker 1: Whole, completely, completely not. 01:17:44 Speaker 4: Black person who also is a danger to black communities. And we see that through the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion and so many healthcare as you mentioned, the list goes on and on, and I just want you, as you're closing out with us today, to tell me because when you talk. 01:18:03 Speaker 1: About going to Congress. 01:18:04 Speaker 4: In fact, we just interviewed last night Donovan McKinney, who is running for Congress in Michigan, in the thirteenth district in Michigan, and hopefully by the time this airs, I don't even know what episode we're on right now, but by the time it airs, I pray that he would have won his election. We have sent to people, if I'm in New York, why do I care about Michigan? And I'm sure they are folks to say, well, why if I'm in North Carolina, should I care about Florida? And the reason why is because when a person goes to Congress, they

are not just representing the people of the district that helped to get them in Congress. They are representing and making decisions on behalf of folks, not just in America, but all over the world. If we look at the conflict right now Israel Palestine, and I'm not even gonna call it a conflict, If we look at the genocide that has taking place in the Middle East and the wars in Iran and all of that. The politics of America and how congressional members and senators vote dictate what happens and how much money is being spent to disenfranchise and harm people in other parts of the world. American, the US government, United States cong congressional members and senators literally helped to set the tone for what happens across the entire world and certainly across this nation. So if you're listening to Uncle Luke right now, don't be sitting here and saying, oh, what he just down there in Florida. 01:19:40 Speaker 6: Nah. 01:19:40 Speaker 4: If you are in North Carolina, you can give money to his campaign. You can also get up and say, you know what I'm going to I'm going to show up in Florida and support knocking on doors. 01:19:53 Speaker 1: I know family members that I can call. 01:19:55 Speaker 4: I can call the office and become a volunteer and get a list of people to call from the district. 01:20:02 Speaker 1: There are ways to help on it. 01:20:04 Speaker 4: For an hour during your lunch break, you can say, I'm just gonna sit here and make phone calls to folks who are in Florida and folks who are in other places around the country who can help these people to get in office. The only way that we can stop the racist, dangerous politics that's coming out of Washington, DC is to ensure that we retain the power of the House and the Senate and make sure that people are we're holding our elected officials feet to the fire and knowing that they are going to work for the people that we do not work for them. 01:20:38 Speaker 1: So that was my little Ted talk. 01:20:44 Speaker 4: I would appreciate you taking us out by just helping people understand, especially some of your brothers who are like man, politics don't matter. Why should I show up, you know and vote that on My vote doesn't count, As my son was saying, tell them why they need to care about your campaign in Broward County, Florid. 01:21:05 Speaker 6: Well, it's you know you you said, you said, it's you know everything that happens. You know, even with my campaign, it's all you know, everything, Every move that I make is all a move that the creator sends me to go and do. And I looked at even this move because always things are moving. It's always a moving parts. And so you said them mouthful. Yes, we have a tendency. 01:21:37 Speaker 5: You know. 01:21:38 Speaker 6: One thing, one thing that I'm gonna seriously advocate for when I get into Congress is teaching putting civics in school because I think a lot of us in our schools we don't understand simple civics. Simple civics will let you understand the political process. And just like you said, in a high school civic class that should be should take in place. People should know the difference between a school board member, a congressman, a senator or state rep a president, a mayor, a judge, and all of them to understand the importance of voting and understand the importance of getting involved. 01:22:16 Speaker 5: Me as a congressman, You're definitely right. 01:22:19 Speaker 6: That's why I said early on the things that I do in my congressional district. And if you're not getting those things done in your congressional district, you will be able to look at my district like they look at every other program that I create in my community, and everybody want to be like Mike. Everybody want to be like me, and so they'll look and see the things that we're getting done, and then they'll say, hey, look to my congressional member, we need to get those things done. That's number one, Number two why you need to be involved in this campaign, because you're right. I'm going to have to vote. I'm going to My vote is for New York, New Hampshire. My vote is for DC voters for I'm sorry, my voters for Chicago, my voters for all the different all those different policies and plans and and and funding that goes to these different cities and municipalities. 01:23:13 Speaker 5: Is about my vote. I'm gonna bring I'm gonna break line. 01:23:17 Speaker 6: I'm gonna break line because again, I'm not your traditional black congressman. I'm just I'm going to Washington, not to fight. I'm going to Washington and get things done. So I'm the guy that's gonna work across I'm just like those guys who are mad. This is my last ditch effort. I'm sick and tired of being second time. I'm just like everybody else. I'm just like the brother who's on the verge of going to change my party affiliation to independent. 01:23:49 Speaker 5: I'm that guy, you know what I'm saying. 01:23:50 Speaker 6: I'm the same guy, like like everybody else who are upset about the political process. We get on the phone, we call people, and it was a lady. I can almost play you the lady streaming on there about why she is not voting, why she wants to get off the grid, why is somebody living next door to her getting all these these benefits, and she get the insane bening. I mean, this lady went off and I was telling my people, no, listen, we need to you need to listen to this. These are the frustrations of people, the regular people who have been represented by these same people, and they're frustrated. They don't understand how to make ends meet. And I look at I look at me going to Congress. It'll it'll probably be a harsh reality check for every member of the Congressional Black Caucus, because I will my first week there on my first day there, It'll have to be a really, really have a real sit down and have a meeting the other mind, because i I'm disgusted by them. I'm totally disgusted by them, for them to allow this, this lady, every

washingmith schutes this white woman to be in our race. I'm disgusted by them that the fact that they have not said anything about it, they did not denounce her. I'm disgusted by them because they they they are allowing us to happen. Because if you say on this on the other side, on the other side, we Civil Rights Act was taken away by Clarence Thomas, and we lost seats of representation in Louisiana and Tennessee and Alabama, and we need to boycott those states because they took black representation. 01:25:33 Speaker 5: But on the other hand, this lady could be running against. 01:25:38 Speaker 6: Running in a home owned district, But why would she come in a crowded race of black men and women to try and take representation away from us? And so again the Lord puts me in these places to let us know really right where we really at as a people? Do we have real black representation? And when it comes to the congressional Black Caucus. Do they have a backbone, because if you're gonna caulk us On behalf of African Americans. When somebody try and take whether it's a Republican or Democrat, try and take representation away from an African American community that's been here over forty years, you got to say. 01:26:21 Speaker 1: Something that's terrible. 01:26:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. 01:26:23 Speaker 5: Horrible, and it was already done. Before it was done. 01:26:27 Speaker 6: In Memphis, Lebron James gives out there and go to screaming about Memphis and how all Memphis is not a safe place. Well, when Gerald Ford Senior was a congressman and Junior was the Congressman, it was a safe place and beautiful place to go. 01:26:42 Speaker 5: But then here come this guy, Steve Cohen. 01:26:45 Speaker 6: He goes in run in the same situation, a crowded field of African Americans, and all he needed was thirty percent of the vote. He then goes and win. 01:26:55 Speaker 5: Now they have three hundred and sixty five deaths a year Memphis. 01:27:01 Speaker 6: So I say to them, look, don't you know we have to have a real meeting none the minds, because again I'm gonna be my own man. And I know they're sitting there probably saying Please Lord, don't let him win, because you know, I'm a part of this culture of being syc tared, being sycatared, and I'm not gonna fall in no line. But nobody only lining them or fall in line is with black folks because of my and we're suffering, and at this period of time, we need to make a decision as to what direction we're gonna go in as the people. Because I could tell you one thing. If that happened to any Republican guy out of line with Mega then Old Trump, he would be putting. 01:27:45 Speaker 5: Down on him. 01:27:46 Speaker 6: And in that mere term, he is definitely gonna lose it because he's gonna denounce that person and he's gonna support that other person financially and physically. And so we didn't do that, and we had the opportunity to do that. 01:28:00 Speaker 1: Yep, Debi Washerman Schultz is dead wrong. 01:28:04 Speaker 4: And the black folks who have not told her publicly that she's wrong are wrong too. And I love many of them who have not stood up to her. What she did is it is actually racist. I'm saying that I didn't say you said it. I'm saying that it is racist for her to have come into a campaign or come into a district and just decide that she has the privilege to run and people said they did not want it, the community said no, and yet she still forced herself into that election. 01:28:38 Speaker 1: So it's dead wrong. 01:28:39 Speaker 4: And there's a lot of other issues with her that we won't get into today. You go run your race and do your thing, and come back and tell us when you win what the next steps are so we can support you. 01:28:50 Speaker 2: You got your back, We got you back on Look. 01:28:52 Speaker 5: Hey, I appreciate y' all. Man. 01:28:53 Speaker 6: I appreciate this time with you guys, and I enjoyed it and look forward to talk to you all again. 01:29:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, sake, keep it up, Okay, thank you. 01:29:05 Speaker 3: Shout out to Luther uncle Luke Campbell in this amazing interview. You know, he gave us a lot of insight on why he's actually running for Congress and a lot of things that he's done in the community. I don't even think a lot of people knew, you know. I know a lot of people knew that he was a coach for a football team, but I didn't know that he had got parks rebuilt and got football stadiums rebuild, and got a lot of money and resources donating into his community. So shout out to him for that. And he seems like he's really on poised for the physician. You know, a lot of people just do it, you know, and say I'm just running for office, but he seems like he's really sure about what he wants to do. He's concise, you know, he has a real platform, and he really wants to do things for the community. 01:29:48 Speaker 4: So I would say he's definitely concise. I would say that it is impressive that he is not just like ya, I just wanted to do good for my community, but instead he understands the politics. He understands the ins and outs of the Democratic Party. 01:30:07 Speaker 1: You know. 01:30:08 Speaker 4: He also understands history. He's mentioned or named a number of people who, you know, are our staples. Whether you like them or not is not important. But there's staples in politics or from a historic perspective, and he knows all of that. So I'm impressed with his level of knowledge and his ability to connect his politics to the to to history and also to the community's needs. So I'm impressed with that. I don't know all the other candidates that's running in the race, so I can't say whether or not there is some other very very progressive candidate who is running. 01:30:52 Speaker 1: But and I'm going to go look right because I just want to know. 01:30:56 Speaker 4: But you know, of course we have a relationship with Luke or you do, and he, you know, wanted to come on and talk about his campaign, So that's

great. I think more candidates need to be reaching out to folks who people listen to, Like real piss people listen to our podcast. If people go out of their way to listen to this podcast, it's definitely not a bunch of trolls. It's people who are like serious about their communities. They're serious about making change. And so folks need to make sure if you're running for office that you spend some time talking. 01:31:29 Speaker 1: To people who are really on the ground. 01:31:32 Speaker 4: So I appreciate that. I want to see I want to see us make a big change. And I'm not saying everybody that we change too is going to be perfect, but I do want to see us like really just shock the world with the ways in which we shake up politics. 01:31:49 Speaker 3: Yeah, like we've been saying for years, we need something different, and we need people who are you know, connected to the community, who understand the community, who understand the culture, who are culturally competent, as we say, you know, incredible messengers. So you know, I think Luca is definitely one of those individuals. I'm excited. I hope he actually gets the opportunity. Like I said, you know, my other brother Dupray Kelly also known as do it All, who is the councilman in Newark, you know, just watching him for and he's been doing this work for like the last four or five years, and just watching him constantly do the work, and he actually does the work in the community, like he gives the resources the community. He's outside in the community. He's really for the community. He just had you know, a hip hop day in Newark the other day, which we actually performed that and it was just a dope event and to see how much they love him, you know, because he really pours in the community. And I think Luke is one of those individuals who can have the same impact in his community. 01:32:50 Speaker 1: So he's going to need some help, yepsolutely. 01:32:54 Speaker 2: I think so, I think, But I think he could do it, man. I think hip hop is strong enough. 01:32:58 Speaker 3: And I think when people like I told my I think when people realize that you're actually serious and they actually see how engaged you are, how knowledgeable you are, how much work you actually already put in on the ground. 01:33:10 Speaker 2: I think people will get excited. 01:33:11 Speaker 4: Well, you only got a little bit of time to make sure people know. But like he said, if he was running for a president of the United States or you know, some position that required people to vote for him outside of his community, that would be different. But the people who lived there actually know him. So let's see if folks get behind him and say they believe that he has the ability to help enhance the quality of life in Broward County. 01:33:39 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, that brings me to my I don't get it, and it's kind of power for the course, right. I'm just having a conversation with you and my brother Angelo yesterday, and we were just talking about, you know, different roles in society and our culture and how a lot of people don't understand their own rod or their own lane. And my don't get it is why don't our people stay in their own lanes? 01:34:07 Speaker 5: You know? 01:34:07 Speaker 3: When we talk about Luke, like Luke has evolved, Like some people might say, oh, you're a rapper, but Luke is actually someone who has done the work. He's done the necessary work he's done the research, he's been in the community, he sees how things he's actually ran for office before, he's done things in the community that makes him qualified to actually be elected official, you know, and you have. 01:34:33 Speaker 2: To respect that. 01:34:34 Speaker 3: And I think that in our culture now, there's so many people who have an opinion about things that they are not knowledgeable about, right and they give microphones, they give platforms, they lend their heir to people who don't know what they're talking about. And I think if people actually stand in their lane, like, understand what you do, and you allow me to do what I do, and we utilize both of our resources and we've utilize both our platforms and we do what we do. 01:35:05 Speaker 2: Together, we would get further. But it doesn't happen like that, you know. 01:35:09 Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of people who have platforms and voices who don't know about things and they speak about it in the world takes, you know, what they say at face value when they actually have access to somebody who actually knows about the things they're talking about. And by the time it's just like when you said, when we're talking about the di situation, and then you said, after we've been talking about how the dismantling of DEI was going to negatively impact black people. 01:35:36 Speaker 2: And you had all of these people. 01:35:38 Speaker 3: Talking about all DEI don't help black people and help white people more, help these people more. And we kept explaining to them, yes, those people might have benefited more from it, but when they dismantle it, the first people they're gonna get rid of is black people, because the intention is to disenfranchised black people. And we kept explaining that to people, and they kept coming back with their data, the stats, and we kept explaining to them, I hear what you're saying. But when you look at the administration, you look at the people in power, you look at the people that they keep calling DI. They don't say DEEI about the way. They're not saying d I about this, and they're specifically zeroing in on black women and black men and they call them d I. So when they dismant it, they're going to get rid of black women and black men and nobody, not nobody. But there are a lot of people who did not want to take heed to that. And then afterwards there are people that came back and said, well, I didn't see that. 01:36:34 Speaker 4: You were right absolutely, and we know them, I know them, and I'm not even talking about

the more obvious people we know. I'm saying there there are people out in the world that I may not even talk to that were really I will never forget watching some of our brothers say that Project twenty twenty five was not scary, Like Project twenty five is not scary, you know, it's I mean I read it. It's nothing near that is you know, a danger Like It's true we should have because as as a public advocate, Jamni Williams always says, there are a lot of black people who drunk the kool aid of you know, immigrants, we're against immigrants. They taken our jobs. And you know, there were a lot of black and of course against the lgbtqi A community. And so when you look at Projects twenty twenty five, you see where it literally identifies those groups that, yeah, it identifies those groups as targets exactly and when, and so then it's like, oh, well, we're aligned. I'm aligned with the white racist man on being against lgbtqi A and against immigrants and other people. 01:37:45 Speaker 1: But what you did not understand is that. 01:37:48 Speaker 4: They try They said it very clearly, but not as boldly that they were talking first about you, and everything else that they do is about us. It's always about race. It's always about black people. It's always about race. It's always about black people. We are the oldest, most oppressed group of people on this land. 01:38:12 Speaker 1: That's just a fact. 01:38:13 Speaker 2: It's a fact. 01:38:13 Speaker 1: It's a fact. 01:38:14 Speaker 4: Now, if you want to know who's most disrespected in terms of how their land was stolen, it would certainly be the Indians. We would have to always mention that they were here on this land before it was the Americas and before it was America, and therefore they have what has happened to them and how they have shrunk their community and shrunk their identity and their ability to live in the freedom of the land and in their freedom of expression is it's criminal, absolutely criminal, and so we always have to acknowledge that. 01:38:49 Speaker 1: And if you. 01:38:50 Speaker 4: Think about but if you think about not but just and if you think about how we were born here, the labor we put into building this place, where every single group of people who've ever touched this soil has benefited in some way from the labor of the African who became the African American, and therefore everything that they do every time they move, we are always in the line of sight in terms of those who will be harmed by the policies. 01:39:24 Speaker 1: That's just the way, that's the nature of America. 01:39:28 Speaker 3: You're one hundred percent correct, and I think that's what my frustration has been. You know, I think that understanding that the way that you're able to break that down. You know why, because you've studied that for the last thirty years. You've been an activist, you've been an organizer, you've been a lead organizer, You've worked underneath some of the top civil rights leaders in this country. Right, so you understand that you've done the work necessary to be able to give that analysis, and that should be respected, right, And if you say you were respect the individual, you should respect their knowledge. And I don't know things about real estate, right, I'm not the most knowledgeable person about real estate. I'm not the most knowledgeable person about cryptocurrency or stock trade, and I don't really know those things. 01:40:14 Speaker 2: I'm learning. 01:40:15 Speaker 3: But I'm not going to tell someone who's done that for their whole life that they're wrong. 01:40:20 Speaker 2: About it, even if I might not agree with it. 01:40:23 Speaker 3: But if I respect you enough, then I'm gonna respect your space to allow you to continue to navigate, and then I would utilize the knowledge that I have about what I do and connect it. And I think that's what a lot of us don't do. We don't do that enough, and we find ourselves clashing and then we have to say, oh, I'm sorry, or you told me, but I didn't listen. I think that's what's been hindering Black progress is that we have those kinds of conversations instead of the conversation, okay, you know this. I know that I might not agree with you on that, but I don't really know. So what I'm not gonna do is get in your way or stop progress. Because if you're right, after you've been studying this for thirty years, if you're correct in your analysis because you've done the work, then it's only gonna benefit me. And just like if you're right about what you're saying, then it's I'm only gonna benefit you. So we need to respect each other's face, stay in each other's lane, utilize our platforms our voices to amplify each other instead of criticize each other or on the gate with someone else has done and didn't have to come back and apologize later because it's only setting us back years. Right now, we're in a position because there were people who said, we can't let these people get in the White House. I don't care what you said. And then people say, oh, it ain't gonna be. We had Trump before, it ain't that serious. We know what Trump won't do. This ain't that serious. And now it's that serious. There's no person that's really right now in this society that doesn't realize it's that serious. 01:41:48 Speaker 2: Even if they're not saying that, they understand we're in serious times. 01:41:51 Speaker 3: And it's and the reason why we're in these times because the people who knew, the people who are on the front lines, the people who did the work, who did who's strat, did jibs, who understood the history of what was going on, told you and you not only didn't you listen, you utilize your voice to combat that. And now most of them won't even come back and say you're right, but some of them will. Some people have come back. But the thing is, why do we have to always do that? You know, why can't we just stay in our lanes and respect each other's you know, intellectual property, the work that we've done, and build you know, and I just want to stop seeing that. I'm tired of being told you is right or I didn't understand. I just want you to respect my space enough to understand that I know what I'm talking about because I've done the work and the research necessary to be able to speak. 01:42:38 Speaker 4: On There's no black elder that I know from the most radical the one two did the you know people. 01:42:44 Speaker 1: Like, oh no, they weren't radical. 01:42:47 Speaker 4: There was the Bulet I'm talking about, the non bulet that has said that the Trump administration is not dangerous and probably one of the most dangerous administrations that we've had since probably more modern day presidents. There are people I have heard people saying, and I'm talking about elders, that they would take a bush, which is heavy to say, you would go back to a bush before accepting that Donald Trump is light work. 01:43:17 Speaker 1: He's not. He's actually very dangerous. 01:43:19 Speaker 4: And you know, the sad part is that only one group of there's not a possible scenario where only the people who were wrong will experience the wrath of the moment that right exactly, it happens to all of us. 01:43:35 Speaker 3: So there're that And with that said, we've come to the end of another episode of Tea in my podcast. Thank you for supporting us. Shout out to our brother uncle Luke. Listen, go follow his platform, see what he's running on. If you're in Florida in the Brober County, make sure that you look into his campaign. I think he's a dope individual, I think his evolution should be celebrated, and I think he'll make a dope congressman. But you need to do your own reason search. Make sure that you check into them. I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika d Marriage and I can always be wrong, but we will both. 01:44:06 Speaker 2: Always and I mean always, be authentic. 01:44:09 Speaker 4: Please listen to the TMI podcast on the Black Effect Network, on iHeartRadio, or anywhere podcasts are available 01:44:17 Speaker 3: Or catch the video version on YouTube at TMI show PC