Full Transcript for A series sweep, a Jahmai Jones lesson and a Justin Verlander update

urgency and they do realize the importance of all these little things and you know, kind of doing that balancing act of you know, not worrying about the standings, but knowing that you got work to do, you know. So, yeah, so what are your observations about that notion? With the guys around. 00:06:05 Speaker 3: The team, We'll say probably like anything you hear in media comments as bs, because no one's ever really ever being honest. But I will say, you know what, I kind of like, I have not heard a lot of the oh, we're just gonna take it one game at the time, we just got to focus on today. There's been more of a sentiment of like, we know where we're at, we know everything matters all, you know, and then you get the like all we can worry about is today's game. But there is an acknowledgement that this team has kind of screwed itself by how bad it was in May, and there is an acknowledgement that, yeah, there's a sense of urgency, like that's not necessarily being downplayed. And I think that's probably a good thing, because obviously, if there's not a sense of urgency and if you're not aware of what's at stake here, we got a real problem. If you're trying to act otherwise, we probably have a real problem. I just like that that's being kind of said out loud and maybe not veering too much toward like results or oriented pressure and things like that. But I think the urgency has sparked because it is a little more do or die. For whatever reason, this team over the past couple of years seems to respond to that maybe more than they should. Maybe it makes me worry that they ride the highs a little too high and the lows a little too low. But I think it's good that there's that there's some acknowledgment that, you know, we're not pretending that the situation isn't bad and that every game really matters right now. 00:07:29 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know there's. 00:07:32 Speaker 1: When you say that, the word that comes to mind for me is maturity, because there because one of the things that I've always maintained is like, look, there's a way to kind of be real about what's going on while also not like worrying about something happening next week, like there is a balance there and and maybe you can't go through that unless you or find that balance, unless you kind of have seen the various highs and lows a lot of these guys have experienced in the major leagues in a short period of time. 00:08:00 Speaker 2: Because I think, I like it, had this team. 00:08:04 Speaker 1: Got really gone into the tank, and I guess everything is still possible, right, but like, had this team really gone into the tank, that would have been the most disappointing thing to me is that like that level of maturity and understanding of what it takes to be a winning baseball team didn't net itself anything, right, And that's really what it looked like for much of the month of May. 00:08:22 Speaker 2: Now I now, for now, I. 00:08:25 Speaker 1: Feel like I can kind of put that to rest, that

that worry to rest. Still a ton to worry about, don't get me wrong, but like that little worry I can kind of put to rest. And I don't know, like I'm a believer that leadership, like like everyone kind of reflects on the leaders of the team. And if you want to go back to Trek Schouble saying like, hey, like you know, like we gotta do it. We gotta make some plays, you knowly blah blah blah kind of challenging his teammates if you would. There's nothing, there's no other way than to describe, like, hey, like this, they wrote to the challenge like again, Jamai Jones, Specchia Thorlson, Cole Keith, Matt Verling, Zach mckistry, ken Lee Janssen, like all these guys rose to the challenge in various ways this weekend, and it gets us feeling like it it's not impossible, right, you know, And so like I do believe those things are related. In credit to school Ball for not being shy about like voicing that. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: I think that's leadership. That's something that you don't necessarily get a lot of around that team is just being real like that, and Errek more or less saying, yeah, if we don't start playing better, like they're gonna be rumors about me, there're gonna be rumors about a lot of other guys in this clubhouse. And just like laying it on the line because that's reality. And then you want to talk about Schooble. Look what happened in this start. Terrek gets a little fired up. He's John with the other team. You know Mike Vassel a random injured pitcher who I guess he's like a part time magician, you know, for the White Sox. I don't know if he was stocking trash or not. Could never really get to the bottom of what was going on. By the way, I liked what Vassal said. He was just like, yeah, he had some choice words for me. I had some choice words for him. It was good stuff. He like was kind of leaning into it, playing into it. But that emotion, Karen, like, that sort of emotion, I think you can say is kind of what this team has lacked and missed. That fire, that edge, it sure comes out of Trek Scooble, And I think Trek has a way of bringing a little more edge out of his teammates on days he pitches. Look, that doesn't mean he needs to be yelling in the opposing dugout every single game or whatever. You know, let's not go overboard. But I like seeing the ad from Trek Scooble. I don't think it's coincidence that the team happened to play really well this weekend and responded in that particular game not long after Terrek was stirring up a little bit of controversy. 00:10:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is this is like a cousin of the conversation we had about like a couple of weeks ago about like eyes with edge or whatever. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like it. 00:11:04 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know these guys personally, but like Torque seems like a you know, nice kid, Riley Green seems like a nice kid. Like, you know, you got all these nice guys on the team. Maybe this was something, but they they kind of needed school to just like pull it out of them a little bit. And again, all those guys had moments this weekend, so you can't say they didn't do their job. 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I lied. 00:12:42 Speaker 1: I don't have the greatest thing to say about Dylan Dingler because I just feel like every like, what is there left to say about this guy other than wow? 00:12:51 Speaker 2: And if you want to talk about belief like earlier, I. 00:12:55 Speaker 1: Don't know about you, Cody, but I had very much like belief like ding Dylan Dingler was gonna come through in that moment in the ninth then like it just felt like, this is exactly the guy that you want up at this time, you know, especially this month. 00:13:10 Speaker 2: This series, you know, this season. 00:13:12 Speaker 1: Whatever do you want if you had your pick of the litter on this Tigers team, where you take it. 00:13:19 Speaker 2: Dylan Ingler first? Second, He ain't third, you know what I mean. 00:13:26 Speaker 3: I'll take him second Byan McGonagall, And there's no surprise Kevin McGonagall and Dylan Dingler the back to back hits. After Jami Jones gets on base and it's crazy like Jamia was up and it's kind of like, all right, this game might be over. And then he's on base and it was kind of well, you got McGonagall and then you got Dingler. I suddenly did not feel at all like that game was over. I mean, it is incredible. Every time Kevin mcgonagal walks up there, I'm like, he's he's probably gonna have a good at bat, He's probably gonna hit the ball hard somewhere. And it's become a similar conversation with Dingler, who, by the way, does have leave the yard power eighteen home runs we're not even halfway through the season. From a

catcher, I mean, that is pretty incredible. Yeah, this guy's having a charmed year. 00:14:10 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, talk about sort of the ying and the yang, like him kind of holding school back in the in the dugout during that exchange like that, because again, we just raved about schoobl and that attitude in that edge and all that stuff. But you also need guys like Dingler where it's just like, yeah, job get done, We're good, you know what I mean, especially yeah, from someone like your catcher. 00:14:36 Speaker 3: Should we talk a little more about schoobl just because I've seen some comments like, oh, he's it's not the same, his trade value is diminishing and. 00:14:47 Speaker 2: Cool. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: I know, I would say his stuff is still grading out like pretty much elite, and he's not been at his best. The Vilo is like ninety six ninety seven as opposed to like ninety nine one hundred. You know, he gave up two homers on his change up, which is one of the best pitches in all of baseball when he's right. I don't think it's had quite that same bite. Some of the execution hasn't been totally the same, and he still goes five and two third three runs like you will take that from anyone else on the planet. I think it's fair given what is at stake, given that the trade value does matter, all that stuff. Something to watch as Tarrett continues to kind of get reacclimated to this rotation. I do think we want to see a little bit of a step forward to that like cy Young level. Oh, no one can hit this guy, but I'm certainly not panicking or reacting yet. He's been fine. This stuff has been pretty good. I would say the command overall was even his second ounting was better than the first one. Aj Hinch basically said, I think he'll be even better five or six days from now, so I will be interested to see, you know, will he continue to take kind of these small steps forward as he basically just built this volume up, knocks off some rust. I don't think it's wrong to like make note that he hasn't been his very best, but just something to watch, and I don't think anything to really be concerned about right now. 00:16:14 Speaker 1: My thoughts on that are, like, look, dude, if you're watching Arrek schoobl outings, like as a as a Tigers fan, presumably if you're watching Terrek school outings and you're lamenting him not being one hundred percent erk school because of the potential trade value going down. I I would probably tip off like the FBI for your Internet search history, because there's probably something there's probably there's probably something there. I'm just saying there's probably something there. Now you're a little bit ashamed of. If that's what your first thought, what. 00:16:46 Speaker 2: Do you then? What do you want? 00:16:47 Speaker 4: Like? 00:16:48 Speaker 2: What do you want? 00:16:48 Speaker 3: Like? 00:16:48 Speaker 2: Do you do you want? 00:16:49 Speaker 1: Do you want like him to do well so you can have a better return on

the trade, so you can trade Tark schoobl Is that like your number one? 00:16:56 Speaker 2: Like hope? Then what are we doing here? 00:16:58 Speaker 3: Then? 00:16:58 Speaker 2: What are we doing here? All right? Something? No? 00:17:01 Speaker 3: I I literally think too many other pictures were like dominant in his absence. I think now it's like, oh, he's not Miserowski or Kim Schlitzler punching out thirteen every time? Like is he actually even that good? I think our brains got a little bit distorted in the five weeks trek Whober wasn't pitching. 00:17:19 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that point of view on June nineteenth is distorted. 00:17:25 Speaker 3: I would like to see him throw like one hundred again. 00:17:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be cool. 00:17:29 Speaker 1: But I'm but like to have that point of view a second start after an but really it's kind of like an experimental procedure. And really his only only his second outing period without that thing rattling around in his elbow, you know, because he said it's been there the entire year. 00:17:45 Speaker 2: Uh, like, take take a chill pill. Is I guess the nicer way of doing that. 00:17:52 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's do this. We should give you, say, talk about school more. We should give Jamai a little bit more love here, Cody, because I I feel like like he's obviously, I mean it was parent on Saturday, like probably the least popular and now batting guy on the team. And and look it sucks. Obviously nobody wants to be booed. And I understand what the frustration is when when he comes in that situation and then of course like does not deliver. But he got the two at batch today, same old story, first at Bad and then something like something like if the Tigers do go on some sort of run, it's that legging that single out is going to be on the like turning point highlight reel. This is when the team started just kind of finding itself. 00:18:43 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. It was that kind of moment. 00:18:45 Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, man, it would be kind of neat if this started something, and it did start something at least for a day, and so you got to give him at least credit because again, belief, attitude, all these things that we're talking about today, If there was ever a guy that would not or our situation would not leg out a play like that, it would be what Jamai has gone through this year, you know, And I don't think it would have been. He wouldn't have been criticized for that, you know what I mean. But he got down the line, he was safe, and you know, and we're over here talking about a sweep very much because of it. Yeah. 00:19:18 Speaker 3: Absolutely, we should have a segment, the thread the Needle segment, where we talk about difficult things and try to have some nuance. So here's our first and threat inaugural Threading the Needle segment. I'm gonna talk about the baseball first. Jamie Jones got two two hits this series, which is certainly better than zero,

so maybe a small sign of life. Now, a hard hit grounder and an infield single does not necessarily make me feel a lot better about the situation. A j hinchpinship three righties against a lefty with reverse splits, and then left himself susceptible to a run of three rights against Sir Anthony Dimingez in the ninth I didn't really love that. I mean, I guess like Vierling has been good against lefties, so you give him a shot. Trey Cruz the right hand swing doesn't do a lot, so Lee. And then Lee gets on base, so maybe you want to take your shot with Jones, but then you I don't know, man, I'm skinting harder and harder to defend all the time, right but aj keeps doing it. And we talked like he's trying to send like some message. I don't know, man, he just keeps doing it. So that is what it is. I think if I were running the Tigers, Jami Jones would probably be off the roster right now. But I don't run the Tigers. What I do is I cover the Tigers, and covering the Tigers means I also have to be very cognizant of the human element. I know these guys, some better than others, but I see them every day. You build relationships through the course of that, and Jami Jones is certainly one of the best humans on that team. It kind of feels, you know, it sucks when they're booing, especially because I think the boos were really dry. Did probably more toward aj or to the front office, right, But Jami's feeling that and turns out, you know, there was a lot on his mind Sunday Father's Day. This is a guy who lost his father as a young age. This is his first year being a father himself. So he's on first base and someone asked, you know, what are you thinking? He said, what am I not thinking about? He talked about the booze and you know understands it, but it's hard, you know, he said, that's the first time an entire statement has bowed me, he said on Father's Day. You know, it's like, you gotta be kidding me. And I don't think he said that with like spite toward the fans. Just like obviously stuff has kind of sucked for Jemi, and it doesn't mean he's not trying, but it sucked. And he's been the face of kind of a bigger issue that the Tigers are having and what's been a very frustrating season. But if there's any lesson to take from Sunday's game, Like, if I ever have a child, I don't have a child. If I ever have a child, I'd kind of wanted to be like Jamai Jones. What Jami Jones do? Hustled his ass off one point three feet per second over his normal speed to beat out a ground ball in the ninth inning, when the whole world is stacked against him, when he's dealing with some emotions, you know, related to his personal life, when people are booing him when everything's bad. All right, when everything's bad, what do you do? You give up? Do you sulk? Or do you keep showing up? You keep going at it? Jamie Jones kept showing up, kept going at it, did a small thing that helped his team win the game. Talked about all this post game. It was pretty cool to hear. So, you know, a great job by Jambai on just a human level. 00:22:52 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm never one to dismiss the human element. And I think regardless of what the correct move is, Like you said, like you know, probably not the best use of a roster spot based on his play this year, but I'm also a big fan of just like you know, the dude had a moment this year. And that's pretty cool too, especially on his first Father's Day, Like I don't want to I don't want to like overlook that kind of stuff because that stuff does matter, and it is really cool and and there are some life lessons there, like like you laid out all right, Uh, let's get to our next little segment. Cod Cody has tigned their mind. Everybody, that Tiger Territory is brought to you by FanDuel. 00:23:38 Speaker 2: So we're gonna do our our. 00:23:39 Speaker 1: Weekly daily Dinger pick and it's gonna be Riley Green. So funny thing about Riley Green. Funny thing about Riley Green Man. Just when you think you kind of, you know, talk about not having the Tigers figured out, Just when you kind of think you have Riley Green figured it out, he goes and just kind of does like a little bit of a one to. 00:23:56 Speaker 2: Eighty in a certain way. 00:23:58 Speaker 1: He does not have a hit against He's only got three plate appearances. He's got to walk and no hits against Garatt Cole in his career. The Yankees starter on Monday, and Riley Green. We loathed the strikeouts last year, but it's like, hey, you know, he hit thirty seven home runs. 00:24:18 Speaker 2: Then the power wasn't there this year. I'll tell you what. The month of May was very good to Riley Green. 00:24:25 Speaker 1: Like three, I got this in front of me right now, a three twenty batting average with a three to ninety one on base so well, everything else was sucking. 00:24:35 Speaker 2: Riley Green was hitting the cover off the ball. Right. 00:24:37 Speaker 1: They had zero home runs month of June. Four home runs, that's half of his total of eight so far. And coming into today he was patting two thirty seven with a three twenty nine on. 00:24:48 Speaker 2: Base So. 00:24:51 Speaker 1: What's the real Riley Green kbe like for twenty twenty six? I guess what's the real like twenty twenty six Riley Green? Because it feels like we're doing we're doing some roller coaster in if you would with Riley Green. 00:25:05 Speaker 2: I mean that, you know, in a fun way, not a group. 00:25:08 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, at least when the average goes down, the power did tick up a little bit, right, I mean he's still hitting to ninety. I do think the chase has gone up. He's even up to ninety strikeouts already. This guy still kind of strikes out a lot, but I mean he's having a heck of the season. It was actually good to see the ball leave the yard a little bit, just a reminder like, no, this guy can still hit for plenty of power. There's nothing wrong there. I don't know. I think these are just kind of the ebbs and flows of the season. That's how I look at

it. Although I have pointed out multiple times, like trying to be cognizant of his playing time, his fatigue level. Could that be factoring in at all? But I don't know that I that I have any grand takeaway. I haven't really noticed anything drastically different in his swing mechanics or anything. I think maybe he started to come out of the approach just a little bit, but he's also hit the ball of the yard. There's some people who want to see him hit the ball of the already started doing that a little bit more so I think. 00:26:02 Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, well again, like you know, looking at things like ops, it's actually better than it was in May. And you know, only seven ribbies in May. He's got you know, he came into today with eight or whatever, so and you know and then today and extra endings just hit the ball too hard. Yeah, otherwise you know carry Carpenter is able to score it. 00:26:23 Speaker 2: There that would have That would have been one of those things where that. 00:26:26 Speaker 1: Would have been like really deflating to like lose the game, and in part because you couldn't get the tying run over because Riley Green hit the ball too hard so Carry Carpenter could score for a second like that have That'd have been some stuff man had had it worked, had it worked out that way. But yeah, I think I think Riley Green is one of the most fun guys to see in the box. The Kevin McGonagall thing is kind of taken it away a little bit with how fun Kevin McGonagall is. Obviously I think consistently has a better at bat than Riley Green, but there's still something about that. There's still something about that swing from Riley and just like the like the upside is always there for him. 00:27:06 Speaker 2: So that's that is our pick for Daily Dingers baseball fans. 00:27:10 Speaker 1: The MLB season is in full swing and FanDuel is giving you a chance to call your shot with Daily Dingers. 00:27:16 Speaker 2: Join. The action is easy. 00:27:17 Speaker 1: Just make your free pick on who's hitting a home run in their game, and if you're right, you'll get a profit boost to use on your next bat next bet for a chance at extra winnings. It's just another reason why FanDuel is the home of home runs. So are you ready to play your game? Head over to FanDuel dot com slash podcast to get started. That's FanDuel dot com slash Podcast. Opt in for daily dingers and make your free pick on who's heading a homer, playball and swing for the fences on FanDuel, an official partner of Major League Baseball. 00:27:45 Speaker 5: No purchase necessary, opt in required. Bonus issue does non withdrawable profit boost tokens. Restrictions supply, including any token expiration and max wager amount. See terms at sportsbook dot FanDuel dot com. Gambling problem caller tax one eight hundred gambler, All. 00:28:02 Speaker 2: Right, couldy fun little nugget? 00:28:04 Speaker 1: Speaking of everything that kind of happened today, I don't know if this might be worth investigating. I

want to tell you how to do your job. But the blue bats today were absent in this, in this comeback. They seemed like they didn't have the magic with them. And so the Tigers went back to their usual bats and uh and and came back and won the game. There were a couple of broken bats. I feel like at least three so I. 00:28:30 Speaker 2: Don't know if anything there. 00:28:32 Speaker 3: It's kind of weird. 00:28:34 Speaker 1: Players petitions, you know, this, that the other thing, but they were kind of like, all right, yeah, Father's Day, it's cool, but I think my father would rather get a basic you know, go up to the plate with this, with this blue bat another time. 00:28:45 Speaker 2: So just just a little nugget. I don't know if there's anything there. 00:28:47 Speaker 1: I'll to see if that happened across Major League Baseball today as well, but obviously the Mother's Day, of the Father's Day, all that stuff, you know, great thing that Major League Baseball does each day. All right, let's get to some house cleaning stuff. Justin Verlander. Today was supposed to be his return, and that obviously did not occur. And it just kind of feels it feels like you almost kind of kind of put the hope on the shelf a little bit until you get like actual better information because it just holding on to it just probably is going to drive you more insane than not. I would say it, just you know, hopefully he gets right, you know, hopefully you know, we get to see him at America Park in the old English d But when that, I'm gonna wait until that happens to really kind of let my let occupy any ram I got up in my nogget. 00:29:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good thing that Tigers won three games this weekend. You know, I walked into the America Park and Friday, first game of a home stand, and kind of the first thing we heard Verlander scratched and go and talk to Justin Verlander, and it was it's pretty depres To JV's credit, he was he was pretty raw and honest. He was pretty emotional and introspective. You guys probably saw the quote. I always said I'd pitch until the wheels fall off, and I don't know, maybe they are falling off. I hope not. I hope not. You know, that's what he said. It was pretty frank. I think he certainly seems concerned in our mind. I think he was concerned before he reported this hamstring injury, just he knew the quality of his stuff wasn't where it needed to be. But then right, you know, he was talking to himself into maybe if I get back out there, maybe if I get the adrenaline of a major league game, and it suddenly became possible, like what, man, maybe he's just gonna go out there and grind his way through five innings and it's gonna be a really great Father's day. But that wasn't meant to be. Ends up with a hamstring injury. Sounds like he's gonna be shut down from throwing. Sounds like we don't really know what exactly is ahead now. Verlander, of course did say, you know, he's gonna keep trying, He's gonna keep working, do all he can to get

back help this team. He committed to the Tigers for this season, all that good stuff, and I certainly think that is true. But it's really hard to know what is ahead. It sounds like he's gonna be out. I don't know how long. Aj Hinch said a matter of weeks. So if he's shut down from throwing, like, are they gonna do like a full spring training build up or are they gonna do like a quick build up, Like we don't really know. It sounds like are we gonna see any chance of seeing Justin Verlander before August? Before the trade deadline? I don't get the sense there's a great hope of that. And then the further you push this thing, you know, suddenly you start running out a day. So it is concerning both for all the people who would love to see Justin Verlander pitch, both for Justin Verlander, who clearly wants to end his career on a positive note, for the Tiger, for Scott Harris, who does not need to sign another pitcher who doesn't pitch at all. Yeah, it's really not a great situation. It's become an awkward situation. It's it's not gone at all according to script and that sucks. 00:32:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks. 00:32:06 Speaker 1: Don't have much more to add than that. It just sucks. And again, hopefully there he has his moment in some way. But as I was telling my dad today, it's like, you know, Highwood Endings almost exclusively exists in Hollywood, you know for these guys, And just a reminder of that if this, you know, if this does kind of go that way, again, hopefully it. 00:32:29 Speaker 2: Does not, all right. 00:32:30 Speaker 1: And then we also saw Trey Cruise Tray Cruse. We like to acknowledge major league debuts on this podcast. Trey Cruz made his major league debut, had the family there. 00:32:38 Speaker 2: That was really cool, and uh. 00:32:40 Speaker 1: It's because Wenzel Perez unfortunately had a freak accident and we talked about, you know, with the exercise band and looks like he avoided like significant injury, but obviously he's. 00:32:52 Speaker 2: Gonna be like he's not even back in Detroit yet. 00:32:56 Speaker 3: I believe he is. And I he fractured it is orbital bone, so I would call it a significant injury. I think there's just a great like, is this guy gonna lose his eyesight or anything. It sounds like no, it sounds like the long term prognosis is good. But the more we learn about this, it certainly sounds very scary. Wasn't initially cleared to fly. I do believe he has returned to Detroit. Yeah, I think something to keep an eye on too. With winsle like it. This just sounds like a scary, scary injury. And yeah, it makes me never want to touch a plio band again. 00:33:31 Speaker 2: Yeah and again. 00:33:32 Speaker 1: Just to kind of get to the you know, focus on the baseball part of this, hopefully you know went so it's okay heels and you know, all the all the you know, personal stuff there, but Tray Cruz getting the call up to me, it felt natural. Forty man switch hitter Versul defensively hoping you can kind of get something out of the bat unlocked out of the bat unlocked a little bit. I know, obviously the numbers in Triple A weren't great this year, but it was also hurt. So I wasn't outraged by it because it just kind of checked all the boxes for how I kind of viewed the Tigers. 00:34:05 Speaker 2: You know, would approach something like. 00:34:07 Speaker 3: This, Yeah, I mean, this is this is how they operate. They're trying to keep the roster functioning the same way, so they lose a switch hitter. They brought up a switch hitter. If they were gonna call up Ben mal Jerry or someone right handed platoon outfield bad, I think it would make more sense to just make that swap for Jemi. Calling up let's say, mal Jerry or Corey Jolkes for Winsle almost leaves you with kind of duplicate roster pieces and it would be weird. I'm happy for tree Cruz. You know, this is a guy who worked really hard, who had to overcome some injuries. He had Tommy John surgery, he had some adversity, had years where he didn't hit, spend parts of what three or four different seasons in Double A. You know, got to that point where a lot of guys just kind of flame out. He didn't. He kept working, had a really nice year last year. It's pretty impressive in spring training earlier, you know, a couple of years ago, and Brace going to the outfield. So now you think, okay, switch hitter, play center, play short plays everywhere, like that's a good way to remain employed. And you know now here he is. He finally gets a shot. Third generation big league family, only the fifth ever. That's really cool. Talk to both his grandfather and his father on Sunday. Jose Cruise Junior, A lot of people forget part of aj Hinch's original Tigers coaching staff for a few months before he left to take the job at Rice. Really sharp guy, really great baseball family. I actually have a little more on them, I think coming Tuesday. You know, Jose Cruz Junior, excuse me senior. Back in the day, you know, came from nothing. He was grinding away in Puerto Rico, almost gave up, almost quit baseball. He didn't. Three generations later, Man, what a life he has built. So happy you get Trake, happy to see Trey Cruse get his shot as a player. A little bit of concern about the bat. He's pretty good from the left side, not so good from the right. I think a great model actually for like what you would want him to be is when so Perez can he kind of defend himself in the box, have good at bats, have some pop. I think Cruz has a chance to be maybe a better or at least a more like consistent defender than Perez. And he also plays in field, So you know, if you could become something like that, that would be good for both the Tigers and for Trey Cruz's chances of sustaining career in the big leagues. I think he's an interesting player. We'll see what he becomes. 00:36:30 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, you know his profile and you throw in the lineage that's part of his profile too. And what he could potentially do is going to give you every Like that's the kind of guy that you want to give every single opportunity possible in order to see if something is there, if something can stick. So I have no problem, like I said, with them calling him up for for Wentzel and again hopefully you know, good news to hear that, and so UH could be back in Detroit and you know avoided like you know, vision loss type stuff. 00:37:06 Speaker 2: UH with with that accident Uh, all right, is there anything else? I'm sure we missed something. Is it? Like it felt like there was so much that happen this. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: This weekend, But Drew Summers is really good now it's been a lot better. That kind of matters. 00:37:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I do think aj Hinch summed it up well with the high character win like that, like all these things that we talked about really fall into like high character you know, baseball that results in winning baseball and what they preach and. 00:37:38 Speaker 2: All that stuff. 00:37:39 Speaker 1: And if only for a weekend, Cody, damn it, Like we saw all that kind of come together in its own way. 00:37:46 Speaker 2: And so it was fun. It's a fun weekend. 00:37:47 Speaker 1: It seemed like a lot of people are having a good time at America this weekend. The black and baseball stuff is always great. Uh so so yeah. 00:37:54 Speaker 3: Really good crowds actually, given you know, the team's record, I was I was almost surprised to see, you know, crowds turn out in full force, but really probably the best crowds of the year for sure, and they got plenty of even when they boo, at least they're invested, right, and. 00:38:08 Speaker 1: You know, this home stand uh extends with the Yankees and the astro, so plenty of opportunities to see it. 00:38:14 Speaker 2: The Tigers really, you know they do this damn thing? Can they do it? 00:38:18 Speaker 3: Let's see how we're feeling after the Yankees series. They missed Cam Schlitzer. At least they do get Garrett Cole. 00:38:25 Speaker 1: All right, you guys can follow this on expertly known his Twitter at Cody stave Inhagen. I'm at Kieran on his course Declely pod page at Tiger Territory, Underscore, YouTube, Apple, Spotify, You guys know what to do. We appreciate all of you, so for Cody stave Inhagen, I'm Kierri S Deckley. 00:38:38 Speaker 2: Everybody have great