Full Transcript for Ep 53 - Make Extraordinary Your Default with Lilly Sciolli

be in love with the stocking? 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:45.839 No, joking. 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:51.040 My favorite colour is actually yellow, but my brand colour is blue, so I would definitely pick blue. 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:51.600 Okay. 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:51.920 Yeah. 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:56.720 And brand aside, in your like private life, would you also pick blue? 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:01.279 No, because blue is my sister's colour and yellow is mine. 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:08.240 And so every like every excess one, like if you see my backpack, if you see my waterborne yellow thing, everything is yellow. 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:08.800 Okay. 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:18.560 It is funny, you know, how in the family, like, you do have different colors because Ian also, but like Ian won't wear blue because that's Micah, our other brother's color. 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:20.639 No, that's Micah's color. 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:24.480 And like, even if he finds a really nice shirt that's blue, he's like, nah, that's Micah's color. 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:27.920 Is that why you wanted your brand to be blue? 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:34.560 Like thinking of her, or yeah, also when I was picking a color, I was like, it needs to mean something to me. 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:41.439 And this is my sister's colour, yeah, and I just don't want it to be my colour, you know, like the yellow one is everywhere in my life. 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:42.560 I want it to be something else. 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:43.519 Separate from you. 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:44.160 Yeah, okay. 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:46.240 Blue was like the choice to go with. 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:47.439 Does she know this? 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:49.279 Actually, I don't think so. 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.839 I mean, we talk about everything, but I've never really stated that. 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:54.079 Yeah. 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:56.480 Like behind this colour, there is her. 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:58.240 But maybe she already knows. 00:05:58.720 --> 00:05:59.040 Very sweet. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:00.800 I think you should tell her. 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:01.600 That's a very sweet thing. 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:02.480 Very sweet. 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:03.120 Yeah. 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:04.639 What would yours be, Amy? 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:05.360 My color? 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:06.720 I don't know if I have one. 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:08.319 It's like green, maybe. 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:09.519 Yeah, maybe green. 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:13.920 But now I'm leaning away from green because Tarek is very much my boyfriend is very much. 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:15.120 It's very green. 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.560 Yeah, like he's in danger of becoming a forest. 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:23.279 What tree? 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:27.759 So yeah, kind of. 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:29.040 Yours is definitely pink. 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:30.000 Mine is definitely pink. 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.560 If you had to pick pink or blue, pink. 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:33.040 Pink. 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:33.920 Easy. 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:35.600 Was it always your color? 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:36.480 Like pink. 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:37.439 Was it always your color? 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:38.079 No. 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:39.279 I used no. 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:40.800 You embraced it at one point. 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:41.279 I did. 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:45.199 You always liked pink, but for some reason our family was weird about pink. 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:46.639 And thinking super girly. 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:48.000 I'm kind of yeah. 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:49.680 Lydia happens to be a girl. 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:50.800 Yeah. 00:06:50.959 --> 00:06:53.279 And I remember I got these pink earrings. 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:55.519 So they were like earrings, but they had like a pink little gem. 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:55.839 Yeah. 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:59.759 And then I got so many compliments on the earrings, and I was like, actually, I really like this. 00:06:59.839 --> 00:07:01.040 And that set it off. 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:05.759 Like the origin story of the colors was so fun. 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:06.079 Yeah. 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:11.040 So that's so cool to see that you also have like this point in time where you define, okay, this is your call. 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:11.600 This is mine. 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:12.560 Yeah, that's true. 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:14.720 What's your point in time that defines yellow? 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:16.000 That was high school. 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:17.439 Oh my gosh, this is so funny. 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:20.879 So we had this teacher, our physics teacher. 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:23.519 He always had a polo, like a yellow polo. 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:23.759 Okay. 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.399 And like this subject was not my favorite one. 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:28.319 I enjoyed it, it was not my favorite one. 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:32.399 And me and my best friend, we really bonded over this subject. 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:37.360 And then we were like, oh yeah, yellow is our color because he's wearing yellow. 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:42.399 And so it started off being the color, you know, like yellow was everything. 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.480 Like the hearts are yellow. 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:44.879 Yeah. 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:45.519 And then everything. 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:47.360 Yeah, truly you said yellow hearts. 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:47.920 Yeah. 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:50.240 That's that's such a funny origin. 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:53.040 We hate physics. 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:54.560 Let's make it our color. 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:56.160 Yeah, exactly. 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.399 I love how teachers don't know the way like we influence kids. 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:02.399 Sometimes it's really just your shirt color. 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:04.720 Yeah, it's crazy. 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:12.399 Um,

last would you rather would you rather have to write all future texts for your books, messages, like everything? 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:17.279 Would you have to write it with a frustratingly slow computer or with a typewriter? 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:18.560 Oh shit. 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:24.720 Um I think a slow computer is fine because my computer right now is not that fast. 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:28.160 But getting slower and slower sometimes forgiving me on. 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:29.519 So I'm already used to it. 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:30.480 So let's go with that one. 00:08:30.639 --> 00:08:32.000 You have so much patience then. 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:33.759 I don't have patience. 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:37.759 If you like ask my sister, ask my mom. 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:39.919 Like, patience is not all that's my favorite. 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:43.279 Yeah. 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:46.720 So maybe it would be a practice in patience to have a release on the computer. 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:47.039 Yeah. 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:47.519 Yeah. 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:53.519 Um, I have I know that I'm not patient, and I sometimes pick stuff that trains me on being more patient. 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:54.159 Oh, nice. 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:56.080 Want to come teach for a day? 00:08:57.440 --> 00:08:59.200 You can have my job. 00:09:00.960 --> 00:09:02.639 I don't know if I'm ready. 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:04.799 Fair. 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:06.799 Okay. 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.759 Would you pick the slow computer or the typewriter? 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:15.279 See, if I think if you know from the beginning this is a slow computer, then it's something else. 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:21.600 But if you expect it to be fast and then it's slow, that's one of the most frustrating things in the world. 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:23.519 I might go with the typewriter. 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:25.360 I think typewriters seem fun. 00:09:25.759 --> 00:09:28.720 But if you write on a typewriter, you realize how annoying those things are. 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:31.200 Have you ever reading with a typewriter? 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:32.080 Only for fun. 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:32.480 Okay. 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:34.240 Only like in kindergarten there was one. 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:34.639 Okay. 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:36.879 And so you wouldn't type stuff. 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:37.759 No, never. 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:45.200 But I heard horror stories about it because my mom she used to when she was doing her apprenticeship, and then she always had to like start it over again. 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.879 And she was like, it was so much pressure because you had to type everything correctly. 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:50.879 And if you did not, then you had to start it all over again. 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:51.919 Yeah, no mistakes. 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:57.759 Our mom as well was like, you weren't allowed to do the whiteout because it was so visible with the typewriter. 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:01.679 And I was like, oh my god, I like I the amount of times I delete something because I can't spell. 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:03.519 Oh yeah, same out of typos. 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:04.320 No. 00:10:04.559 --> 00:10:09.840 And like my also when I'm texting, I mean I do so many errors, just mistakes, just because I'm so fast. 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:10.879 Yeah, yeah. 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:12.000 So not for me. 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:12.480 No. 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:13.039 Okay. 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:13.519 Okay. 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:14.559 Okay. 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:16.000 Should we go into the main part? 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:16.480 Yeah. 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:17.039 Cool. 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:17.759 It's good. 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:20.399 So we thought an appropriate question for the beginning. 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:22.960 Your book is titled Who Told You to Settle? 00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:25.919 So Lily, who told you to settle? 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:28.639 Like what is the first? 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:36.879 I guess what I'm asking is what is the earliest memory you have where you realized, oh, people want me to do less or people want me to settle in this situation? 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:48.399 I think all the kids that turned their back to me in elementary school just because they were not getting this little girl doing stuff that no kids were doing. 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.480 Like I was the one pulling out my notebook, writing stories. 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.159 Well, I got a no or bored about what the teacher was saying. 00:10:56.320 --> 00:10:56.480 Yeah. 00:10:56.639 --> 00:10:58.320 They were like, uh, she's not that cool. 00:10:58.399 --> 00:10:59.039 She's weird. 00:10:59.200 --> 00:10:59.360 Yeah. 00:10:59.519 --> 00:10:59.679 Okay. 00:10:59.919 --> 00:11:01.279 And I was like, I'm not. 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:03.200 I just enjoy doing it. 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:04.480 Why don't you do it? 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:04.799 Yeah. 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:08.399 So I heard it like in elementary school, middle school, high school. 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:11.039 That you should stop doing these things because it's weird. 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:12.000 Yeah, exactly. 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:12.960 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:14.320 Is that where it started? 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:20.720 That feeling of like um, what am I trying to say? 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:27.200 The feeling of I want to break free from something that most people are accustomed to. 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.799 Yeah, I think it was two things at the same time. 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:39.200 I I had like my trigger, like the one who showed me this is possible and this is like your default, is my dad. 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:39.759 Okay. 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.919 He um he he raised us with no limits. 00:11:44.080 --> 00:11:46.000 Like he's an ambitious misfit himself. 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.720 He there were no like

boundaries for us. 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:50.639 Like, do you want to go skiing at two? 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:52.639 I'm taking you on the slopes, you know. 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:53.840 Like that's the attitude. 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:59.759 When I was 10, I got this bike, which I'm still writing now, because it was like, I'm not buying you a second bike later on. 00:11:59.919 --> 00:12:02.720 It's like I know I'm showing you how to do it so you can do it. 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:05.600 Yeah, so you want to write a book at 11, do it. 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:07.679 And so for me, it was like normal. 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:12.080 Yeah, and seeing people around me not getting that, I was like, why don't why don't you get it? 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:17.200 Yeah, you could actually also do what you want if you don't care about what other people think about you. 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:18.480 Yeah, oh that's crazy. 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.600 Yeah, are you still very close with your dad? 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:22.320 Yeah, I am. 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:38.799 Yeah, I think when you're growing up, like you grow a bit apart, you know, just because also if you are two people always trying to push in life, but in the end, we're very close still because I think he's the only one that really understands my wiring, like at 100%, because he's the same. 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.840 Yeah, I was gonna ask him guys and you guys are similar, yeah. 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.720 Yeah, but oftentimes also if you are so similar, you have the same blind spots, yeah. 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:51.279 Yeah, so when you were a kid, you already like were writing stories and you wanted to write a book. 00:12:51.519 --> 00:13:01.600 Is this just like something that happens in the back of your mind during the day that like thoughts happen kind of, and you're at some point you're like, okay, I need to write it down because it's too much, or how does that yeah? 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:07.600 You have um this idea, and then I already had the idea of having the book in my hand. 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:08.480 Oh, okay. 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:12.000 So I was like, Okay, let's get these ideas on paper. 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:18.000 Yeah, and then I pulled out the computer of my mom, which was uh such an old computer, yeah, which was not working so well. 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.799 Then I started writing, and then I was like, okay, this is so cool. 00:13:20.879 --> 00:13:25.519 And then I would like read out to my sister like out loud, like, hey, this is my new chapter. 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:26.879 And then she was like, Oh, that's so exciting. 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:32.480 Okay, and then I continued, and then I I got to school, I had new ideas, came back home, was writing again. 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:36.639 Wow, okay, and then some when I was like, Okay, I need to publish it because I wanted to hold in my hand. 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.919 Yeah, okay, because you had the image of you

holding it. 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:40.399 That's great. 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:42.159 Okay, that's very impressive. 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:44.000 Did you write it in Italian? 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:45.039 Yeah, okay. 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:57.200 Like the first three books are in Italian, and then uh now the fourth one is in English because I want to reach more people, and also like the niche of self-development is kind of an English one. 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:57.679 Yeah. 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:01.360 And uh for me it's important to get it in all the hands of people that need to read it. 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:04.320 So English is the Was it different for you to write in English? 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:05.600 It was easier actually. 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:06.000 Really? 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:21.360 Yeah, I kind of like Italian is like the language I speak with my family, but outside of the the the language is English, like all the content creation I'm consuming, like or even all the content I consume and the books I read are in English. 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:22.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:23.360 Wow, okay. 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:29.279 It's like yeah, like the family language and the like the content language. 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:29.840 Yeah. 00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:32.080 Cool. 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:39.279 Since you're like writing a book and working full-time, like we how do you manage it? 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:41.600 Where do you find the energy? 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:43.039 Was my specific question? 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:43.919 How much coffee do you? 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.480 You don't drink coffee, yeah. 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:48.559 That makes no sense in my mind. 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:55.279 No, on purpose, actually, because I don't want to get addicted to something that could like boost my energy. 00:14:55.360 --> 00:15:00.080 Oh, so I always refuse to drink coffee, like it's not it's not an option for me. 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:01.600 That is willpower right there. 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:02.000 Okay. 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:04.720 Yeah, because for me, like the precondition is sleep. 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:08.159 Yeah, so I'm a baby, I sleep nine hours every night. 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:08.559 Damn. 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:12.480 And you can ask all my friends, I'm the one saying, now I need to go to sleep. 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:15.200 Yeah, I'm saying I'm like, it's my bedtime. 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:17.759 Like, goodbye, good night. 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:19.120 When is your bedtime? 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:20.639 Uh between 9 p.m. 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:21.519 and 10 p.m. 00:15:21.840 --> 00:15:22.480 Yeah, nice. 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:24.720 Yeah, and I don't set an alarm. 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:34.720 So the thing is like when my body's ready to wake up, I wake up and I'm ready to go into the day and do everything that I have to do, which is working a hundred percent and working on my side gig. 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:39.200 So when do you like when will you set meetings as of in the morning? 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:40.720 What's the earliest you'll set a meeting? 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:41.679 At work, you mean? 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:42.320 Yeah, at work. 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:43.840 Yeah, usually around nine. 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:44.320 Okay. 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:53.360 Because for me, it's important, first of all, to focus on the one thing that makes my day, which can be at work, like something for my job or something for my side gig. 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:53.679 Okay. 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:58.399 I pick it like the day before, and I decide okay, this is the one thing that needs to be moved on this day. 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:03.039 And then I work on that one so it gets like my full attention before everything else can come in. 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:03.519 Okay. 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:03.919 Yeah. 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:04.639 That's smart. 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:06.240 That gets you're a morning person, I guess. 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:06.480 Yeah. 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:07.840 And that gets the best part of your day. 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:08.000 Yeah. 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:08.320 Okay. 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:09.200 That makes a lot of sense. 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.480 Is that like the most important thing you feel like? 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:14.399 Like that's the biggest hack you found. 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:31.440 I think like prioritizing your task is super important, but also at the same time understanding what has the most impact and uh also just being disciplined, like have a have a huge discipline because like motivation moves you first. 00:16:31.840 --> 00:16:34.480 Yeah, but motivation fades every time. 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:40.720 So you need to have like this system that works even if you don't feel like doing nothing. 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:41.919 Yeah, yeah. 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:43.919 Yeah. 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:44.799 Yeah. 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.519 I think especially like I realize this also for the podcast. 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:55.440 Like we just we release every Thursday, and it doesn't matter if you're motivated or not, like that's by Tuesday the episode has to be ready. 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:59.919 And it doesn't like it's like we discussed, like it's a non-negotiable. 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:01.200 That's just it's gonna happen. 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:09.200 Yeah, and it's really nice to have that as a non-negotiable, is like it doesn't matter because your motivation will fluctuate and yeah, yes. 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:16.880 I think it's interesting, like you work a hundred percent at Neon, and then you have your YouTube channel, and then you're writing a book, and then you're doing social media. 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:21.200 Like, what is a I'm probably gonna say this a few times we're during the episode. 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.640 Just what is it, what does your day look like?

00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:27.839 So you don't set an alarm, you end up waking up at eight. 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:28.480 Seven. 00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:29.039 Seven. 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:29.359 Yeah. 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:29.839 Okay. 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:33.119 And then you do the task that's most important to you first. 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:33.759 Yes. 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:35.119 And then you go into the office. 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:35.519 Yeah. 00:17:35.680 --> 00:17:36.960 And you do your day job. 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:37.359 Yeah. 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:38.480 And then you get home. 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:43.599 And then and then every second day I try to go to the gym, first of all. 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:44.000 Okay. 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:45.759 To just like recharge. 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:49.039 You know, like get out of uh working job mode. 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:49.359 Yeah. 00:17:50.079 --> 00:17:51.119 Get fresh ideas. 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.839 I oftentimes even listen to podcasts and stuff because I want to consume educational content. 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:00.240 So when I go back home, I'm ready to work on the sidekick. 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:05.519 It can be a YouTube video or it can be like writing a new chapter, whatever I'm working on. 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:08.079 And um I'm just doing it. 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:10.799 And I know the thing is, I know that I have to go to sleep. 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:11.759 You know, yeah. 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.000 Between 9 and 10 p.m. 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:23.839 So I know I have only maybe one hour, two hours, and I need to time like it's time boxed, and I need to make sure that the one thing that I want to achieve, I do it before going to bed. 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:27.200 And like having this pressure of going to sleep. 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:27.839 Yeah. 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:30.400 Make it possible for me to get things done. 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:30.880 Yeah. 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:33.920 Yeah, otherwise you can procrastinate because you have all the time in the world. 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.000 Yeah, and you're probably way more efficient this way. 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:36.400 Yeah. 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:36.720 Yeah. 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:43.200 I just need to pick the one thing that gets me to market as complete on my task on my to-do list. 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:43.440 Yeah. 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:44.160 Like, yeah. 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:49.279 Do you ever will you ever compromise and go out on a Wednesday with your friends? 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:53.839 Or is it right now you're in this phase of releasing your book, so there's like no compromise? 00:18:54.720 --> 00:19:09.119 I make sure that I still get some social time, like social, yeah, just quality time with people that I really care about, but uh I'm like declining so many invitations currently because it's a very intense phase. 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:09.519 Yeah. 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:20.000 But

what I also figured out one year ago is that I if if you have a sidekick and you work 100%, you just need to understand who do you want to sp spend time with? 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:20.480 Yeah. 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:28.640 And so I usually look at okay, is this somebody on my prior list or is it just something that it's fun, but in the end it's not moving me anywhere? 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.599 And oftentimes I'm the one just saying no. 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:32.480 Okay. 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:35.759 But do you think that's gonna change in your future? 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:41.359 Like, could you see the socializing becoming more of a priority to other things? 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:46.720 Like, is it just a phase right now, or do you think this is a phase that is probably sticking with you? 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:56.640 I think it's gonna stick because what I saw is also my prior list of people that I spend time with are the ones that are showing up during this period. 00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:57.279 Yeah, yeah. 00:19:57.680 --> 00:19:59.200 And the other people are not. 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:09.359 So suddenly when you don't have that much time or you're prioritizing your ambition over just hanging out, those people are not interested in you anymore. 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:09.680 Yeah. 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:12.559 So their interest in the first time was not a real one. 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:16.880 And it's not always easy to accept because I was like, okay, I thought this person would show up for me. 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:25.200 Yeah, they're not, and so in the end, yeah, it's just something you need to accept and see that the people that will show up will always show up. 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:27.039 And those are the people you need to invest time in. 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:32.799 And I think doing things like this, like we realize with the podcast too, you you kind of notice who your real cheerleaders are. 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:37.839 Yeah, and who will like in the random conversation bring up, by the way, she has a podcast. 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:38.720 Yeah, yeah. 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:40.400 It's really eye-opening. 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:41.599 Yeah, yeah, really. 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:45.680 Do you think though that do you feel like now I've cracked the code? 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:48.559 Like I know how to divide up my life so that it makes sense. 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:51.599 I feel like you feel like you've got that code for yourself. 00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:57.680 Do you think this is somebody that something that would work for most people that most people to should strive to do? 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:00.799 Or is it something very specific to your being? 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:09.359 I think everybody could potentially do it, like copy paste my operating system, but they really need to want it. 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:09.680 Yeah. 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.680 Because the thing is, many people are inspired, oh yes, I want to do it too. 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:13.920 Yeah. 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:19.359 And then when they actually start doing it, they realize within a week, oh no, it's too much. 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:20.240 Yeah, I cannot. 00:21:20.480 --> 00:21:23.440 Or I just had the motivation but not the discipline to do it. 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:26.240 So you really need to want it. 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.519 Otherwise, you can also say, No, I'm not doing it. 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:29.839 Yeah. 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:32.880 What is like your driving factor that you want it so much? 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:34.640 Could you say like this is why? 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:36.319 What's your why? 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:40.000 My why is that I want to have an impact on people's life. 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:40.240 Yeah. 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:45.200 Through the things that I do and that impact my own life. 00:21:45.440 --> 00:21:45.599 Okay. 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:54.400 And seeing that I can like multiply my returns for other people is a thing that yeah, drives me to continue doing it. 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:56.559 Yeah. 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:56.960 Okay. 00:21:57.039 --> 00:21:57.200 Yeah. 00:21:57.759 --> 00:21:58.799 Have you always been this way? 00:21:59.200 --> 00:21:59.599 I think so. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:06.240 Yeah, because also back then when I at eleven I started writing the first book and then I released it at fifteen. 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:13.759 And I wanted to I wanted people to read this story because it might take them somewhere else, you know? 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:17.039 Um because otherwise I could have just kept it on my computer. 00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:17.599 Yeah. 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:19.359 It's interesting that you released it. 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.640 That does speak for that kind of a knack. 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:24.400 Interesting. 00:22:24.640 --> 00:22:27.279 I'm gonna pass it over to you because I've been asking all the questions. 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.240 Because I've just been over here being like girl saying. 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:33.119 I feel like I'm talking so much. 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:35.680 Like your bedtime is between nine and ten. 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:36.640 You wake up around seven. 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:38.480 You're basically aiming. 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:41.200 Like, this is so nice. 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:43.839 But this is also like when I stepped away from teaching. 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:50.880 I was like, the first few days I went to work, I was religiously there at like between 7:30 and 8 because that's what I was trained to do as a teacher. 00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:57.519 And now I wake up around 7 and I'm like, I'm gonna chill, do my own thing in the morning, and then get to work when I get to work. 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:01.200 And that's very much a luxury of having a flexible work hours. 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:01.440 Yeah. 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:03.039 And I was like, this is so

cool. 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:05.279 And then also the the why. 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:08.160 I think we also have a similar one, so that's really cool to have you on as a guest. 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:10.000 I'm definitely very like impact-driven. 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:18.640 Yeah, that's very to like show people another possibility, and that everything doesn't always have to be like this hyper optimization. 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:23.839 Um and like I think it's really cool that you like sleep is your priority, yeah. 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:35.680 And everything else has to fit into that, and I think that's a really admirable thing, also, just to like this is this is my me, and that you make time for sports, and it's not just this hustle, hustle, hustle. 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:36.319 Yeah, yeah. 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:42.720 Yeah, sorry, so that that's why I was being quiet because otherwise I was just gonna keep shipping in of like, yes, get it. 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:52.799 Okay, um, I had a question because you you work as product manager at Neon and you're an author and creator. 00:23:52.960 --> 00:24:00.559 So is there something that you get from your I'm gonna call it day job as a product manager that you would miss if you became a full-time author and creator? 00:24:01.759 --> 00:24:05.279 Definitely working together with uh different kind of people. 00:24:05.839 --> 00:24:13.279 Because as a product manager, you work together with uh designers, tech people, even management. 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:13.759 Yeah. 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:19.680 And if you would be an author 100%, of course, you can set up or creator, you can set up your team, right? 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:27.440 You have different roles, but like building apps together with people, like the entire process of it, it's very fulfilling. 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:28.559 I really like it. 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:33.279 Because it's like in the end, it's like writing a book, it's uh you have a product at the end, right? 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:35.759 And uh developing an app, you have a product at the end. 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:45.359 It's like it's very similar, yeah, but still like all this tech part and like just the app UI and stuff like that, something that like I'm really excited about. 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.519 Yeah, so I would definitely miss that if I'm going full-time author or creator. 00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:50.960 Would you consider? 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.720 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:53.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:24:54.000 --> 00:25:01.200 I think for me, I mean, if you would have asked Lily at 11, she would have said, Oh yes, I'm gonna be an author one day or creator. 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:03.440 I have videos of myself saying that. 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:05.200 Can we have them? 00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:10.799 I need to go do all my hardest, but there are so many videos of myself. 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:18.880 Like I used to go back from school, pull up my iPad, and talk and say what I wanted to do, or just pretend being like an author. 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:22.640 This is my book, and then I would talk about you were manifesting. 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:23.759 Yeah, I was. 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:28.160 I had like this vision of myself, so I won't I know that I want to end up there. 00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:29.440 Yeah, yeah. 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:41.119 Yeah, that was another thing that we realized it's in your book and your brand that you also you talk about like what's important in the next 20 years, and that kind of gives you the drive. 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:41.599 Yeah. 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:47.680 So, like, is it kind of manifesting or is it like setting yourself up for success? 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:49.359 How would you explain that? 00:25:49.759 --> 00:26:03.759 I think what I realized over the years is that if you don't have clarity on who you want to be, you're not acting right now as that person, and you're not setting the stones to build that empire for yourself. 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:05.119 Like I 100% agree. 00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:10.799 And uh, I don't know if you can call it manifesting or setting up yourself for success or whatever. 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.720 I just feel like this is the precondition you need to actually end up there. 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:22.240 Because if you don't have like this north star, you're just doing some things and trying things out, but in 20 years you're not there. 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:24.880 So, what is your north star? 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:35.200 My north star is being this person, like it's uh similar to my why, being this person that has an impact on whatever thing I do or I release, I can impact people's life. 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:36.960 Do you have this? 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:39.200 Is it just in your mind, or do you have it like written? 00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:41.119 Do you have a quote or something? 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:43.839 How do you go about setting your north star? 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:48.640 Yeah, so for me, first of all, it's like my slang, like I'm free orbit. 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:50.559 I wear it like every day basically. 00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:55.119 Now I have it also written down on so many pieces of paper. 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.920 Um, but it's very much in here. 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:02.160 Like I I see it like in my mind every day. 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:02.559 Yeah. 00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:06.880 When I think about myself next year in 10 years, I always see it there. 00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.039 It's like in front of my eyes constantly. 00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.599 And um, to get there, however, it's small steps. 00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:21.599 Like this is the big vision, but you need like the small goals that you're working on currently to get there, and those I write on on post-its. 00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:26.480 Can you explain what you mean with I'm free orbit to the listeners?

00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:28.480 Yeah, of course, please. 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:36.240 I'm free orbit means that you have decided to leave the orbit that everybody is circling, yeah, which is, in my opinion, average. 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:43.759 Like the one thing, the default, like the standard where everything is born in, which is perfectly fine, but you're settling for what you're given. 00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:50.160 If you want to achieve more in your life or just go your own path, you need to break free from that orbit. 00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:57.039 And the moment you break free because you make sure that you do X, Y, Z, which is described in my book, then you're free. 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:58.880 So you are free orbit. 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:04.079 Is there a moment where you realize that you became free orbit, or have you always been? 00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:09.200 I feel like thanks to my dad, I've always been free orbit, but I did not have the words for it. 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:09.519 Yeah. 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.400 Like I realized I am free orbit while I was writing the book. 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:14.799 Yeah. 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:16.400 Because I gave it a word. 00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:20.000 But I've always been a free orbit thanks to him. 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:32.319 And if you if somebody's sitting at home and they're like, I don't know if I'm free orbit, what are like, what do you think are first indications that somebody needs to go and read your book? 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:32.799 Yeah. 00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:37.039 That is it like a gut feeling or is it an unhappiness? 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.160 What do you think are like signs that they could benefit? 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.519 I think there are different types of triggers. 00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:49.119 It might be you have this role model in your life and you look up to them, but you're not them yet. 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:53.200 Like you won their life, but you're still stuck in your life. 00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.799 So this feeling of being stuck is something. 00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:03.920 It can be you're just going through a crisis and you feel like, hey, I don't have so much time left, or whatever it is. 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:10.319 I need to make something different in my life so that I end up being free orbit or they're where I always wanted to be. 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.400 It can be just like a ton of evidence. 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:16.720 Like every day you see something that is actually it doesn't sit well with you. 00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:18.240 You're like, no, that's not me. 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:18.960 Yeah, okay. 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:19.359 Yeah. 00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:22.319 Or even like people telling you, can you be a bit more realistic? 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:23.279 Yeah, yeah. 00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:24.559 Why? 00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:25.039 Yeah. 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.960 Why can you not settle for what you have? 00:29:27.039 -->

00:29:28.799 Like your life looks perfect. 00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:29.359 Yeah, yeah. 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.240 Maybe it doesn't pay for, but it does not feel perfect. 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.680 Yeah, so it is a gut feeling, also. 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:36.559 Okay. 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:37.039 Yeah. 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:45.759 And I think if you feel this inside of you and then you actually start reflecting on it, you understand that something is wrong and that you need to break free. 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:50.079 But if you're because of what I see, so many people are complaining about your life, right? 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.079 Oh, I'm so stuck, I'm not happy with my job. 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.119 I could do more and stuff. 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:54.799 Are you doing something about it? 00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:55.759 Yeah. 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:04.240 Are there areas in life where you do feel like maybe you settle and that's correct for you? 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:09.839 I don't think so, honestly. 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:10.880 You know. 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:17.920 I know that in some areas I might not always strive for the biggest goal. 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.039 Like let's take for example the gym. 00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:29.920 I go three to four times a week, and I could like lift heavier like weights, but I'm fine with what I'm doing because this is what makes me happy. 00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:30.319 Yeah. 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.000 So it's fine for me. 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:32.319 Yeah. 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:41.279 And there I feel like I'm settling for like the five kilos in body pump that I'm like lifting, and it's fine. 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:41.839 Yeah. 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:42.400 Yeah. 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:43.039 Okay. 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:48.240 So there are like, but you would say that maybe there are areas where it's okay to not strive. 00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:50.799 Like, yeah, you don't want to strive to be maybe a bodybuilder, right? 00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:51.519 Yeah, exactly. 00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.400 If that happens in your future, you would strive for it. 00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:58.799 But there are areas where it's okay to be just yeah. 00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:13.759 I feel like if you are a true free orbit, you don't settle in any area, but you balance the areas where you are definitely not settling with some where you are a bit more on the I'm pushing, but not at 100%. 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:14.400 Yeah. 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:19.839 Like you're still going to the gym, you're still doing that, but it's like that is maybe not your priority right now. 00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:20.319 Exactly. 00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:20.720 Okay. 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:21.279 Yeah. 00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:21.680 Yeah. 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:23.200 I like that definition. 00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.000 A bit of a pivot. 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:27.279 Um pivot. 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.839 Pivot! Every time she says pivot, I have to. 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:33.839 Just happens in my life. 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:38.480 There's no barrier between brain and speech for me. 00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:39.599 I'm sorry. 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.720 You give you give a lot of good advice in your book. 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.920 Like we only got a summary, but we're then planning to read the book when it's up. 00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:50.079 Um what's the best advice you've ever been given? 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:58.319 Don't believe that the boundaries that people set themselves are boundaries for yourself. 00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:08.160 Like what my dad always told me, like, he he came always up with this thing of hate be always out of average. 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:17.279 And in the end, it was like his advice to me like believe in that, be that every day. 00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:22.720 It's so cool that that was your childhood of somebody just like cheering you on the whole time. 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.839 Does he know how important this was for you? 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:27.119 I I think so. 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:41.359 We've been to Botswana together this uh January, and we were not chit-chatting that much in the car because we were doing like self-drive um uh safaris, so we were like in the middle of nowhere, the two of us in this Toyota. 00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.880 And some went and was like, Hey dad, do you actually know that I'm writing a book? 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.599 And he was like, Yeah, I heard something about it. 00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.559 And I was like, such a bad answer. 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:57.759 And I was like, Do you know like why I'm writing about it and where everything came from? 00:32:57.920 --> 00:32:59.279 Yeah, it was like, no, tell me. 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.119 And I was like, it's you actually. 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:11.759 And saying it out loud was like a bit strange because it was so honest, and so okay, I'm actually finally giving the credits to the person that actually made me this person. 00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:12.960 Yeah, so yeah. 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:13.839 Did he cry? 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:14.720 I would have cried. 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.200 No, no, we did not cry. 00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:32.640 We were just, I think we were sitting in silence like for some minutes, and then we just talked about every area of life where this wiring is making it difficult for you to go through life, and where it actually like pushes you to just be the person you are. 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:33.680 Yeah, yeah. 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:35.519 Yeah, that's so nice. 00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.720 I I remember where we were, like where we were driving. 00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:40.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:42.319 I bet he remembers. 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:49.200 I mean, yeah, I can't speak for other people, but who do you think it's most important? 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.160 Who do you think needs your

book, especially? 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.440 Like obviously everyone, everybody. 00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:18.239 Yeah, all those people that deep down know that they're meant for more and they're playing just a smaller version of themselves, and they need to give themselves permission, they need to believe in it, and I think this book is really the one tool that gives you practical things, like practical call to actions to actually make it happen. 00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:25.599 Yeah, because oftentimes there is a gap between I know I'm supposed to be more, but I don't know how to do it in the long run. 00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:34.480 And I wrote this book in a way that I tell you why you can do it and why it's important and how you can actually make it happen. 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:39.840 So there is always like five steps that you can go through today to actually start being that person. 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.719 With exercises, yeah, and okay, amazing. 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:43.039 Yeah. 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:53.760 Do you have tips for people who are maybe scared, who maybe feel like they could be doing more, but it's it's scary to say what you want, to say that you think you could be doing more. 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:55.440 Stop apologizing. 00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:11.199 So many people apologize for wanting more, or they're always like, Oh yeah, sorry, yeah, I'm a bit different, or sorry, on a weekend I actually wanted to do something else, but you know, like stop saying sorry, just drop that word, it will help you. 00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:12.000 Period. 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:12.800 Period. 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:14.000 I'm doing this. 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:15.599 Okay, you are, yeah. 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:18.480 Like, I want to write a book, that's it. 00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:22.079 Um, the one who wants to become a bodybuilder, that's it. 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:23.119 Don't justify yourself. 00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:23.679 Yeah, yeah. 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.840 Stop apologizing and start doing it. 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:34.480 I mean, that makes a lot of sense, actually, because I feel like it is like, oh sorry, I'm writing my book today, or oh sorry, I'm I'm actually going for a run, so I can't hang out. 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:34.719 Yeah. 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:42.639 And like a lot of my vocabulary starts with I'm oh I'm sorry I can't, or like because I oh sorry, on Saturday we're doing the podcast. 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:49.039 Like that is actually that's a really very manageable tip, but but very helpful. 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:49.840 Yeah. 00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:51.760 That's cool. 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:54.320 Gonna strive to say some of this. 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:56.320 Sorry, not sorry. 00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.320 New ringtone unlocked. 00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.840 We would now go into the homework and the funny stories. 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:11.280 Do you think there's something that we missed that you would have loved to talk about that we should have mentioned? 00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.599 And if I think we talked a lot. 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.559 Like we covered so many things. 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:24.639 I think one more thing that goes also into like stop apologizing is to really stop caring about what other people think. 00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:24.880 Yeah. 00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:30.400 Because I've I grew up knowing that people do not really understand me 100%. 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.039 Yeah. 00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:37.920 Like so many people, I had so many episodes where people were always like, she's that one, okay? 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:49.360 But because I had this confidence through my dad also, and also through my mom, she always supported me and my sister and everything. 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:54.239 Like I knew that I would never trade my personality to just fit in. 00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.639 So stop thinking about what other people think about you. 00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.039 Do you have baby steps of how to get there? 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:06.880 Because I think that for a lot of people is like Yeah, it's so first of all, just do it once. 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:11.199 Yeah, yeah, and then you realize it's not so scary. 00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:12.159 No, kind of free. 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.880 The first episode we released was like, oh my god, and then we realized do it, nobody cares. 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.679 Nobody cares in the best way, nobody cares. 00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:24.320 Yeah, like that's and the people who do who come and listen, they're the supportive ones. 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:25.039 Exactly. 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.960 And if somebody doesn't want to support you, well, you don't want them in your life anyways. 00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:29.920 No, yeah, yeah. 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.639 Like they're yeah, you're anyway not meshing. 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:34.400 Exactly, exactly. 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.960 And then like the more you do it, the more you're collecting evidence for yourself. 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:39.760 Yeah, yeah. 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.159 And then you're building confidence and everything. 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:43.760 So just start doing it. 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:45.280 Nothing can happen. 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:46.159 Yeah. 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:55.920 I think like for me, I also realized this even at work, like the first few times I spoke up in a meeting was like, oh my god, I'm gonna say something wrong, and oh, people are gonna think I'm so weird. 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.119 And now I'm just like, excuse me, I don't think we should do this this way. 00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.480 And it's been a few months from like, should I turn off my mic? 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:04.800 But let me clear my throat before I turn off my mic. 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:10.639 God forbid, they hear me go the world as we know it. 00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:13.440 I'm like, I'm gonna blow my nose

very low. 00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:17.280 Yeah. 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:18.239 Yeah. 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:19.920 Amazing. 00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:24.559 And also, you know, you you've probably seen it too when you release your first episode. 00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.599 The moment you go public, you cannot go back. 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:32.159 No, yeah, and it makes you accountable to live up to that stuff for yourself. 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.639 Yeah, that's the pressure of it, is also why we've been able to release regularly now, I think. 00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:39.119 Because people put a good kind of pressure, yeah. 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:40.719 And we get text messages. 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.760 We had a technical malfunction once, so it wasn't out on Thursday. 00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:44.880 We got three text messages. 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:46.000 Where's the episode? 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.000 Yeah, so nice. 00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:49.440 That's so nice. 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:50.320 Yeah. 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:55.519 Okay, so we always give homework because this is kind of like your virtual classroom outside of school. 00:38:56.159 --> 00:39:04.079 And the homework listeners is go buy Lily's book because um one franc on the Kindle. 00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:04.960 Yeah, exactly. 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.119 Like um 0.99. 00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:10.960 I mean, so go buy the physical version if you can. 00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.760 And if you feel like that's too expensive, I can't afford it. 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:15.360 99 cents, guys. 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.760 Everybody, like, come on, you got this. 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:20.559 And also, it's investing into your future. 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:25.760 It's not just like buying a book, it's buying a workbook so you can invest in yourself. 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:27.760 And go check out her social medias. 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:28.159 Yep. 00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.000 Yeah, we'll definitely link her. 00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:31.280 YouTube and Instagram. 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:31.679 Yes. 00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:33.920 What's your tag or your like of course? 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:35.119 I'm free orbit. 00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:42.000 If you if you type in I'm free orbit, like my face is all over the internet under the hashtag I'm free orbit. 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.639 But the best place to find me is on YouTube, Lily Sholli. 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:48.159 And you find me there. 00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:48.800 Perfect. 00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:49.920 Yeah, cool. 00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:50.719 Okay. 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.519 And we always end with some funny stories on topic. 00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:56.880 Amy and I will go first so you have time to think about your funny story. 00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:59.519 It can be a funny story or like a fail stunny. 00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:00.639 Fail stunny. 00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:04.480 See, every time I try to introduce the topic, I fail. 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:06.480 It's perfect, very ironic. 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.320 It's not on purpose, I swear. 00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:10.079 Um, or a fail story. 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.800 Yeah, usually it's a bit of both something on topic. 00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.320 Um you want to go first or should I go first? 00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:17.679 Uh I can go first. 00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:18.159 Okay. 00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:21.840 Um, so I did mine on topic of like having a side hustle. 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:22.159 Yeah. 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:26.480 And we have, guys, this is the perfect time to say we have flyers now, which is very exciting. 00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:27.440 It's very exciting. 00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:31.440 Um, but nobody at work knows that I have a podcast. 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:33.760 Because I don't know. 00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:38.239 I just I kind of like having my work life and the podcast life separate, and I've been too chicken to say it. 00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.360 So I was printing these at school because my boss said it was okay. 00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:44.079 I asked him if I could print flyers, and he's like, Yeah, go for it. 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.320 And I was so nervous, I was shaking. 00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.960 I was like, hopefully nobody comes in and sees that. 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.840 They would come out and I would turn them over, and then I kept like turning over the papers. 00:40:56.239 --> 00:40:58.000 So yeah. 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.119 I'm trying not to care less what people think. 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:02.800 I'm not on your level yet. 00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:04.400 You're getting there, girl. 00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.119 Get there. 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:10.400 Yeah, I'm there in certain aspects of my life, but also like work for me is a very different version of Amy. 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:13.920 Yeah, and I like that like work Amy is different than podcast Amy. 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:14.239 Yeah. 00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.880 And those two for right now can remain very separate for me. 00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:18.880 So I get it. 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:19.199 Yeah. 00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:19.920 What's that? 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:20.960 Nothing there. 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:22.159 No, I don't nothing. 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:23.679 Not doing anything. 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:40.239 Um, my I mean, it's a bit of a funny story video of a fail, but I think it's um, so I started up my new job five months ago, and I really like the work, but right now I don't have enough projects. 00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:40.400 Yeah. 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.840 So I'm sometimes a little bored, which is also why I'm keeping work separate, because they don't need to hear this on the podcast. 00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.159 Um I can say, like, okay, I told you about it. 00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:50.880 I have. 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.199 I actually I'm quite open about it at work. 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.440

And I am like this week I got two very big projects, so I'm guessing it's gonna stop. 00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:04.000 But over the last few weeks I've had time, and I was just like fantasizing of all the different side hustles I could have. 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:13.360 And like, I thought about becoming a swim coach, I thought about building a school, I started learning Japanese, and then I was like, I need to focus on one thing. 00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:23.280 Every time it was a new idea, I was like, maybe I'll open a school, maybe I'll become a swim coach. 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:24.320 I'm like, okay. 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:26.239 It's always been supportive. 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:30.000 And what usually happens is like, I'm just gonna edit the podcast because that's cool. 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.039 And then I was like, maybe I just focus on that. 00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:33.840 Yeah. 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:34.719 Yeah. 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:37.440 So that's been my my recent discovery. 00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:38.559 That's cool. 00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:40.079 That's cool actually. 00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:41.920 Okay, so my funny story. 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:43.679 Okay, it's a bit embarrassing, I think. 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:44.400 It's perfect. 00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.400 So um, I guess you know, I need my nine hours of sleep. 00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:48.800 Yeah. 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.239 So I went on a vacation to Iceland three weeks ago. 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:58.000 It was super active vacation, like outdoor camping, road tripping, and everything. 00:42:58.239 --> 00:42:59.039 Super cool. 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:00.000 But guess what? 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.719 I was not getting nine hours of sleep every day because we were visiting and doing so much stuff. 00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:05.519 Yeah. 00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:11.760 So we went on this whale watching tour, and I mean, exciting, right? 00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:14.559 Like you should look out for the whales and everything. 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:15.920 And yeah, I saw one. 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:30.880 Like the whale came out and went down, and after half an hour, I was just like, oh, finally it's a bit warmer and like the sun, and then I just fall asleep for the entire tour because I had to somehow catch up on my hours. 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:34.400 You're really serious about those leaves. 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.000 Very funny picture of myself on this boat. 00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:47.119 So this is like, yeah, telling you that Lily does need her to miss the whales. 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.119 Well, I think in the end it was just one whale, the one that I stole. 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:53.519 So I didn't know this album much. 00:43:53.679 --> 00:44:01.599 I was gonna say, I hope the picture is like you in the railing and a whale and so not into it. 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:02.800 Whatever. 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:04.719 Nope. 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:06.800 Oh that's awesome. 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:08.719 Thank you for coming up with that so quickly. 00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:14.719 Well thank you for coming on our podcast. 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:16.079 Thank you for an invitation. 00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:17.199 It was so much fun. 00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:18.639 Yeah, it was really, really fun. 00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:19.119 Thank you. 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.119 Very excited for your book. 00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:22.000 Yeah, it's out now. 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:22.239 Yeah. 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:22.880 You can get it. 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:24.960 Yeah, go follow Lily Schioli on. 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:25.760 Is it Scioli? 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:27.119 Scioli, sorry. 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:27.280 Yeah. 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:28.239 Lily Schioli. 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.159 We don't speak Italian. 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:31.920 Go get it. 00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:36.880 We're gonna write it underneath for all the other non-uh Italian speakers so you know how to spell it. 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:37.599 Cool. 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:38.320 Thank you for the book. 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:38.960 Thank you so much. 00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:39.840 This is really fun. 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:40.400 Yeah. 00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:43.199 Amy's pop Amy's microphone just stopped out. 00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:47.280 So yeah, we'll definitely follow along, and we're really excited to see what you come up with. 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:50.079 Yeah, I can wait to have another chat with you. 00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:50.719 Can I say that? 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:51.599 Yes. 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.000 Yes. 00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:54.079 Maybe you can come back for sure. 00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:54.960 The fifth book. 00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:57.679 Let's do it. 00:44:57.920 --> 00:44:58.000 Okay. 00:44:59.119 --> 00:44:59.519 Bye. 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:00.639 Bye. 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:01.519 Bye.