Full Transcript for Episode 9: Joey's Back, Clayface, Lanterns Theories, and Transformers Rankings

detect? Joey: I mean Daredevil. Zach: Jessica Jones, I saw Jessica Jones at Daredevil. Joey: Jessica Jones is technically yeah. Zach: Bring her back and stuff like that. I don't know. It could be kind of weak, in my opinion. So hold up, I gotta change that. Joey: That'd be the best that they could do. I mean that's the that's their best, Zach: You're drafting in an hour? What the fuck? Okay, I was like an hour. Holy shit. Joey: Another two. I'm in five leagues this year. In an hour forty five. Hour forty five. You and I have time. We got plenty of time, I Zach: No, I I need to actually start a league, so I'm I'm gonna get you in on one on. So you actually be in six leagues. Joey: Holy shit, I'm gonna be in six leagues. I I gotta win one league, right? Zach: No, no, you're gonna lose, dude. You're a Packer fan. No luck for you guys this year. Speaking of that, we'll have a little bit of a sports segment real quick. because football starting. Joey: Football has begun this week, Wednesday. Zach: This is the last or no, we've already la we've already went past the last weekend of no football for twenty twenty six. The rest of the year, football. We Joey: Yep, we're here. We are here. Zach: actually start on a Wednesday this year. Weird, right? Joey: Tomorrow. Yeah. Zach: I'd never I is this the first Wednesday they've ever played on or they did it last year too. Okay. Yeah, and it was weird, dude. Joey: I thought they played last year. It was like nine four that that they were the first game. Yeah, the Cowboys versus Eagles. And Card was spit on the one guy. He went. Zach: Yeah, 'cause they want it. Yeah. my gosh, dude. Yeah, that was that was a nutty game. Joey: That was. Zach: Wednesday's just it's I've never had a Wednesday football game. A little odd to me, but Joey: It is a little weird. Cash grab. Zach: Honestly, more days they could play. Joey: It's spread out, which I I enjoy, I guess, but then we get into Tuesday games, Thursday like for a average or like for a fan that needs to watch every single game, like good luck, you're losing your husband or your wife for a the whole week. Like they have a game. Zach: That's what saying. And it's on Peacock, it's on Apple T V. We're on ESPN plus Netflix Amazon Prime. Joey: Netflix, Paramount, Apple. Zach: Like Fairmount, dude. How many Joey: I Zach: fucking streaming services do I gotta get? Joey: Exactly. I want to watch one damn game. I gotta pay five ninety nine for the month and then guess what? I'm not watching anything on your fucking app after that. I'm just not. Like, dude, we brought in so many p cancelled instantly. One week trial. Boom! You're done. Zach: Yeah, exactly I'm just canceling. For one month. Yeah. So yeah, I'm excited for the Bears, dude. I d I think I think this is our year. I'm not gonna lie. Just want to have a little segment about how I think the Bears are going to make the Super Bowl. I'm calling it right now. Joey: I think I think you guys are gonna be competitors, but I don't think you have the team to get over the hump yet. Zach: How do we not have the team? Where are we okay, maybe on defense a little bit, but we are gonna have one of the Joey: La your defence, you don't ha and kicking and your special teams is iffy. Zach: What the fuck are you talking about? We have like we just drafted Xavion Thomas, one of like the fastest guys in football. He's gonna be a one of the best kick returns, slash putt returns year. Mark my words, Xavion Thomas. Joey: Never heard a skymore. Zach: D didn't he No, I really don't know it I don't know. He's from the Chiefs, right? Yeah. You don't even know where he's from. He's from the Chiefs, dumbfuck. Nah. Maybe he was. Maybe but he started with the the Chiefs guy more. Yeah, Joey: think he was saying friend. I thought it was San Fran. I don't know. He's been a few places. Yeah. Zach: no, it's good luck, bud. Good luck, good luck. Joey: I appreciate it. listen, it's gonna be a fun season. Packers, Bears, we're gonna own the league. We will. Yeah. Zach: You guys aren't gonna beat us this year. No. You saw Michael Parsons was in Chicago the other day partying at the Kanye concert, pretty close to Caleb. Joey: I I did see that. I saw all the Packers were there and I saw the chance. y can you guys not have an event without talking about us? Isn't that weird? Like we have so many events that happen and we don't really Bears suck! Bears suck. Any event that happens. Zach: You came to Chicago. You're in Soldier Field, by the way. You're in Soldier Field. You're in our stadium. Joey: Speaking of Wisconsin versus Illinois sports Burrs. Fuck the curves. Zach: You know we beat you guys like seventeen to four the other day? I think that's an embar that's just as that is an embarrassment. Joey: And and what was the outcome? What was the outcome of the series? Congratulations. Do you want a prize? Zach: I don't did you guys win that series? Joey: Middle. Zach: We played a night, so I actually have a bet on it. and it's to get my car out from the impound. They impounded my car. So I put a $5, or no, yeah, five dollar bet down. PCA has to hit two home runs and Nico Horner's gotta steal a base. If that happens, dude, Joey: If he hits, the car's back. Zach: $1,400? Well, the car's still fucked. I'm just trying to sell it anyways. Joey: You get it back at least. Zach: But yeah, I at least I could try to sell it. So dude, if that shit hits. I'm gonna be the happiest fucking man on earth. Swear to God. Every day it sits Joey: yeah. Zach: there 40 bucks. Whatever. It's a shit car, anyways. They got it for free. Joey: Unreal. Nah. Zach: but yeah, where do you th realistically just end this segment, where do you think the Packers are gonna end this season? At Joey: I th honestly, I think this Packers team is gonna make it to the divisional round again. And I can't tell you right now. Zach: You had the domestic domestic violence packers, domestic abuse packers. Joey: Yes, that is Josh Jacobs who's not

gonna be on our team as of in three days he has his court. Zach: That is your these n is Okay. Joey: I don't think he's I think he's gonna get suspended and we're just gonna drop him. I don't wanna deal with that. No, I don't wanna Zach: Yeah, I don't think he's gonna play a game for you guys this year, honestly. Joey: Well, Rice, he had only a six game suspension and he had a pretty Zach: Yeah, but like do the pa will the Packers even put up with that is my thing. Do you guys put up with that kind of shit? I don't think you want somebody representing your franchise, Joey: Probably not. No, we don't put up with that shit. No, he'll be off a team. Yeah. Zach: you know? I wouldn't want somebody representing my franchise who's a woman beater. Joey: Exactly. So I do think Packers, Zach: Just me, just me. But I don't know, packers are different. Joey: it's gonna they're gonna make the playoffs. We always do. We're always gonna be the fucking wild card. We never can just like be a staple. I think it's either Zach: I do I don't Joey: we're gonna get to the NFC championship and we're gonna miss a kick and lose, or we make it to the I just said and then all I keep thinking domestic. The divisional round and we lose Zach: The domestic violent packers, yeah. Joey: by a kick. It's g we're gonna lose by a kick. Special teams for the Packers. I've been doomed. Zach: I don't think you guys walk away from this. I don't think you guys actually that was a I don't think you guys walk away from this. That was a Wolverine, Deadpool, and Wolverine reference Joey: You lookin' for this? I don't think you guys walk away. That's a dead pole reference, I ask. Zach: real quick. I don't think you guys make the playoffs though, genuinely. you guys are gonna struggle. Joey: I think we Zach: You guys I think Joey: have more of a complete team than you. Zach: No. No. Our offense is ten times better. It's not even comparable on offense. Joey: Yeah, let's talk about yeah. No, no, let's co quarterbacks. Jordan Love, Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams had a good season. No, he's not. In in fantasy football, that's it. Fantasy Zach: Yeah, Caleb W Caleb Williams is rated higher. And every every single rating in the offseason he's rated higher. Joey: football. I see you I see you posting it every time, but like if you look at actual quarterback ratings, Jordan Love's above him. D doesn't matter. He's also been to the NFC championship. Zach: Yeah, he's he's like one and three in the playoffs. It it does. In year six. Year six. We should have been in the NFC Championship. They got bailed out. They got bailed out. Joey: Yes, but you guys got smoked. You guys got smoked. Zach: Got bailed out. We beat you, didn't we? Joey: Jordan loves a better quarterback. On the Caleb Williams, he might have a better season this year, but until he starts having some completions. We're not the same. Zach: I think I think Caleb Williams is MVP this year as well. Like it's gonna be it's gonna be the Chicago Bears year. I'm sorry, dude. I'm sorry to break it to you. No, I don't. No, no. Joey: You say that every year. I remember the the year before this, you said it's our year and then halfway through I'm like, Hey, did you watch the game? No, I'm done. I sold. They're done. Yeah. You had Caleb Zach: That was 2024. We had fucking Shane Waldron. Joey: Williams. Zach: It was a rookie, okay? A rookie. Joey: Draft and develop. That's what the Packers do. Year six. I I have all the faith in the world. Also, you see what our quarterbacks do? Zach: He's in year seven, is he not? Joey: I w but last year it was year six. Malik Willis joins the Packers. And now where is he? Multi million dollar deal. Absolute pro. Tyrod Taylor joined us. We're gonna make him a stud too. Zach: Okay. Tyson Bajan can start in the NFL right now, but he's a backup on the Bears because he wants to win a fucking Super Bowl button. Joey: He just doesn't yeah, I can't really go anywhere. Zach: What are you talking dude, now you're just talking out of your ass. You're just a dumb Packer fan. I swear to God. Joey: I take Slovis, who's our third string. Zach: Who even is that? Comment down below if you guys even know who that is. Don't even say his first name, Slovis. Joey: Kyle McCord, third string. Guess what? Balled out in the preseason. Signed with the Dolphins. Zach: Kyle Gord? Joey: Got a draft pick for him. That was impressive, by the way. I did not expect that. I think we're both gonna have some gr I think we're both gonna have a good season. Zach: okay. Joey: I just don't think that Bearish team can get over the hump yet. You guys aren't a complete team. Zach: I think we did a l we we took a lot of steps in the off season you haven't seen yet. It's okay. Joey: The Chicago Bears will never have a four thousand passing yard quarterback. No, the Indiana Bears might. Zach: Guess we will. We're gonna do it this year. So funny, you're so funny. Even if we're in Hammond, you do realize we're still the Chicago Bears. Even the commissioner came out and Roger Connell said that or something like that. Or it was the owner of the Bears. We're Joey: I know, but it's just it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. Yeah, the owner of the bears, but if Zach: never changing the name. Joey: Doesn't make sense. I would change my name Zach: whatever. Joey: if I went to Indiana. Zach: Fuck outta here. All right. To end it off, what do you think the record will be? Obviously you're gonna think the the Packers are gonna beat the Bears more this year. You really think you the Packers are gonna beat the Bears in the series? Joey: it's we're gonna go honestly, I think it's gonna go one one. It just always I don't think No, you only played twice. You only play yeah, twice. I th last year because of the Zach: Don't we play three times? Or am I tweaking? Okay. we played three times last year because of the playoffs. That was stupid. Joey: playoffs. I do think it's gonna go one and

one. Zach: Yeah, it's the most likely thing that's probably gonna happen, but we'll see. We'll Joey: Course. Zach: see. We'll see how the the season goes. I don't even I don't even wanna I'm gonna obviously I'm predicting two and out for the Bears, but that's just me. I don't think we're gonna lose this year. Yeah, all right. Joey: Of course, yeah. Average Bear fan. One game. Zach: Not even not even one game. Joey: When I joined the podcast next week and you guys lost to the Carolina Panthers, I'm gonna be in this jersey so hype. Zach: No, not even close. Fuck out of here. Fuck out of here. The Panthers. Those Joey: The Panthers. Zach: the that's the team we fleeced, by the way. Absolute fleece fleeced them, dude. Joey: Yeah, you guys fleeced last year. Zach: anyways, yeah, we'll we'll jump into the actual content now. lanterns episode you want to talk about episode four first or just the broad spectrum of it. Joey: Let's talk about both, whatever. Zach: let's just start out episode by episode. Episode one. 'Cause we haven't really dissected it ourselves yet. I mean, it starts off with a bang, episode one. We jump right into the universe, Hal and John, and I'm trying to, I'm trying to f yeah, it's one of those Joey: Just bang. Meet you at the taco truck. Training you. Zach: throws him off the the cliff, bubble wraps himself, Joey: Throws them out the clip. Zach: all that. So yeah, I think my favorite part of episode one was finding out that Hal's dead. I think that's like what Joey: Yeah. Zach: we were kind of leading to the whole time in episode one. And me personally, I don't think he's really dead. You know? Joey: No, there's something going on. Zach: There's no way you can just I mean yes, he's older and this is a John Stewart origin story. Joey: Yeah. It's only ten years, right? It was twenty twenty six when he was dead. Or was it right? And then it was twenty sixteen when the show takes place. Yeah. Zach: Yes, yes. Yeah. But I mean in the whole the whole show he's old, you know, is the older Hal Jordan, more experienced than John Stewart and all that, so Joey: Yeah. Zach: I just I think that he's gonna either turn into parallax or there's another storyline where he is revived and makes a cut back. I just do not think that I mean Kyle Chandler is so good, so good as Hal Jordan. And the Joey: Yeah, he's been for nuts. Zach: the fan reaction to him, dude, I think that Joey: yeah. Zach: they're gonna have to continue Hal Jordan's story. Joey: They have to. There's no way he's done. I mean, they could even do it as in somehow they bring back his or they 'cause he he has his films or whatever the hell when he like does his recording and then it populates when he was like walking. They could somehow Zach: Yes. Yes. Joey: maybe keep that version of him so he's missed the last ten years and somehow they could put him into a body or some shit. Exactly. The hologram, that's what it was. The holograms. Hologram. Zach: Even just having the halogram. That's what everyone's been calling it. The the halogram. no halogram. Joey: No, it's a hologram. I get it now. Fuck, it's a hologram. Zach: Nah, there you go. There you go. Joey: Took me a second, was like, What are you talking about it's a L yeah. Zach: I was like, dude, halogram. which quick thing, we're talking about the holograms, might as well talk about it right now. the last time that he backed up his consciousness to the ring was 2006, right? And the show's taken in twenty sixteen. Don't they have to do it every what? Joey: They said like every Zach: You're supposed to do every two weeks, I'm pretty sure. Joey: I was gonna it was like you were supposed to be up to date. I thought it was every Zach: Let me I forgot. Joey: something amount of days. Zach: it's weekly actually. Joey: Weekly. Zach: it's supposed to be a weekly basis, but he's been doing it like I'm pretty sure he said like every 10 years or something he's been doing it, which is wild. Joey: Yeah. That is. Zach: which I think that's a lie. I think that Hal might be, which I have I'm just throwing this out there. I have nothing, I mean absolutely nothing to back this theory right now. I think Hal might be a manhunter. In disguise. Because I don't know, this whole time, why has he been trying to go after John? Why he's we haven't s I don't know. I Joey: He's going after John 'cause he doesn't want him to r get replaced. Zach: And I get that, but that's not the hm like I said, that's just I'm just gonna cut that out actually. Joey: I think if we're to on that topic, I Zach: It's not gonna get cut out. Joey: I think the police officer, can't remember her name, she is a what are they called? Manhunter. I must have a skin hunter. I think she's the manhunter. Zach: You think she's a manhunter? I think that's a hun see my Joey: She's all soft, gentle, getting it in, like don't talk to my father in law, don't talk to he it's probably him, da da da da i it's her. Zach: I don't think that it's just one manhunter, to be honest. I think the whole town turned cause Joey: That be good. Could be th the whole town. Zach: yeah, I think the whole town's turned into manhunters. What did Will the Making. The naked dude is naked in episode four. That guy. Joey: Yeah yeah yeah the the father in law guy. Yeah. Zach: Sheriff Carrie Kane, by the way, Sheriff Kane, all that. That's what that's what we were talking about. Scottish actor. Joey: Kane? Okay. Yeah, she's great. Zach: he said that in exchange for their protection of the Manhunter, they gave them like an upgrade, healed him. You know what I mean? They healed his cancer. So I'm guessing and obviously sorry, what? Joey: yeah, 'cause then that's why the this yeah, I was gonna say the hospital. No one really goes Zach: That's what I was gonna say. Joey: there. The whole town's probably just fine. Zach: Yeah. So that means the whole that's what my thing is is like I at least the whole town's got a piece of the Manhunter in them or something like

that. They're infected. Joey: Something. There's gotta be. Yeah. Zach: Is kind of what I'm getting because why would all of them be in on it? And Sheriff Joey: Yeah. Zach: Kane from the start's been like, it's been peaceful. We've we have we have no disturbances. Joey: It's a peaceful town. We don't have any Zach: You know what I mean? So I think Joey: Yeah. Zach: think they're really hiding something and everybody in the town knows what's going on. Joey: yeah, good old Nebraska. Zach: Rushville, Nebraska. Weird. Obviously, Ab is what's Ab and Sir and the Manhunter, Joey: It's always a small town. Yeah. Zach: I all that. I don't know what I don't even know where that really goes, but That's one of my theories. So, what Joey: I like it. Zach: do we got? Episode two. What happens in episode two? Why don't I have this up? Joey: Episode two, we go to the the we go see the farm finally. We get brought over for lunch or whatever it is. He gets arrested for fighting. He wants to get arrested so he can go talk to the alien. Turns out the alien has the thing in his chest. Yep, and Celeste at the end. Zach: and we get Sinestro too. That's right. You know, I'm just gonna fuck it. We're just gonna go a broad spectrum of all lanterns. So Sinestro, my main thing with him is how the fuck does he know about John Stewart? Joey: I know, he's been locked up. How is he getting I know he was like, you don't think I don't get information? You shouldn't be. Zach: You sh you literally have no connection to anybody. However, throughout the whole entire show, who have we seen that's been able to just teleport in and out of situations? Laura Linney, Wendy. Wendy from the Ozarks. Joey: The w the girl. The girl? The Laura Linney. Yes. She's just in and out. Zach: And I she's has a little bit of a weird, odd, like just like I have a weird feeling about her. You know what I mean? And she's Joey: She's controlling. Yeah. Zach: trying to pin John against Hal this entire time. She doesn't obviously they do not want Hal to be the Green Lantern anymore. it's been very apparent. Now Hal figures that out. I don't know. I think Laura Linny her character has a bigger arc than we are expecting. I don't think she's a guardian. Or if she is a guardian, she's a rogue guardian. Working and telling Sinestro Joey: yeah. I don't think so. Yeah. There's something going on or Zach: all these things. Joey: I think the Guardians are getting overthrown or something right now. 'Cause definitely Zach: There's Joey: and they don't trust they don't want Hell because he's the one that's gonna figure it out and stop them. And that's why they want John, because John follows orders. He'll listen, he will be right on their team. Zach: My main theory for all this, which I it kind of I'd have a reason to back it up, is I think they're building towards the Yellow Lantern Corpse and the Sinestro corpse. That's Joey: Ooh. Zach: what they're really trying to recruit either Hal or John. However way it goes, they're just fucking putting it all out there. And I think Laura Linny's Guardian and Sinestra are the ones leading that. Joey: yeah, most definitely. Zach: So Sinestro's obviously He's the main leader of it all. He's got like the brands of it. But I think Lorelini's the one on the outside actually communicating and doing the dirty work for him. Joey: Yeah. Zach: I obviously at the start of this episode four, we got a yellow lantern. It's starting to turn yellow, at least. The introduction Joey: Yeah, it's going more and more yellow in the intro. Zach: or the the start of the show is starting to turn more yellow. And I'm just I'm thinking we're kind of going towards that way, especially with How's Death, a parallax, he all that shit apparently. Joey: Parallax. Tell me why the cover photo is guy. Zach: For episode five. Joey: Yeah, or episode four, like why are we seeing Guy? Zach: I don't think that was it. That was Joey: Like when you open it up or like on episode three and we haven't seen Zach: Are you serious? Joey: Have you not seen him on there? Zach: I know they had like advertised for a minute. But I think it's obviously Joey: Is the like the He was my cover photo all week. Now it's switched. Zach: Yeah, 'cause I really thought he was gonna be in these these episodes, dude. Joey: I thought it was gonna be that episode 'cause I saw it and I'm like, and now it's they ch Yeah, see, right here. Zach: Yes, that's what I saw. Joey: I'm like I saw that, I was like, he's gonna be in this episode. And he was not. Zach: I think they're hinting he plays a big part in this, obviously in twenty twenty six. Joey: Yeah. Zach: At towards the end of the show. I think he's gonna be playing a big part of it. Joey: He'll show and yeah. Zach: do you think they're all gonna get a ring? Like, do you think Hal's gonna have a ring? John's gonna have a ring, guy's gonna have a ring. Joey: I don't know how that works. but well yeah, they all have Zach: That's how it is in the comics. Like they all all three of them have a ring. Joey: the rings, but then th they all can't cover the same sector. Like they'd have to go somewhere else. Right? Zach: Pretty sure they're all in the same sector in the comics too. Joey: Are they at Also, fuck you. I rewatched the Kylie episode. You start it off and you're like just fries me instantly. Zach: What do you mean fuck me? You talk about that? Joey: There was one cut in there too, by the way, like five minutes in, we're like you you're just like Okay. Zach: Yeah, I know. I totally I got tired that night, dude, and I just like passed out and I was like, fuck it, just upload it. I've done enough for editing. We'll just I'll do harder next week. There it is. Yeah, Skygarden and Haldrone are frequently Green Lantern at the same time in the comic books. Do they cover the same sector? Joey: This is Ryan Reynolds, make a return. Zach: Fuck no. You hear about that though? Yeah, they both technically cover Earth's assigned territory, Space

Sector 2814. My thing Joey: twenty. Zach: is maybe they're maybe this Earth sector twenty eight one four, they're just like they're not worthy enough to only have one Green Lantern. They need they need to have multiple. Maybe Joey: They need to have multiple. Yeah. Zach: that's what this show is also leading to is like we need multiple Green Lanterns to actually cover this sector. I don't know. I I Joey: Cover their Zach: don't think Hal's dead. Come on guys, there's no way he's dead. Joey: He's not dead. There's no way. Zach: I don't know. I don't know. I just I'm I'm very, very intrigued because they also have Kyle Rayner too as as a Green Lantern, but Hal's always been the mo like the strongest in the comics. So Joey: He is there. Zach: if they're trying to do like maybe like he's the halogram from here on out after the season one, like we just get a really good old Hal Jordan season one, and then from here on out he's gonna pop up as like a halogram mentor for John and maybe guy from going on here on out. I mean, that'd be cool, but Joey: Is Guy human? Zach: Guy, ooh, okay, so in the comics, there's actually a storyline where he's not human. Joey: I was gonna say Zach: I mean he's born human, but there's like this time in his life where his alien DNA is like awoken inside of him. Joey: yeah, he's not entirely human. He is humanslash Voldarian hybrid. Yeah, Voldarian. Zach: Voldarian, is that what it is? Voldarian or something like that? He's primarily a human from Earth, though a famous nineteen ninety storyline temporarily made of a human alien hybrid. So it's like one storyline. It's not actually it's a dormant yeah, a dormant DNA from an alien race called Voldarians that it just kinda gets awakened through through time. But it actually gives him the power to turn his body into weapons without the ring. So like that would be pretty cool. Joey: Jesus. That'd be pretty cool if they could yeah. Zach: And that would under that would like make sense of why John has the ring and he doesn't, because he doesn't he doesn't even need the ring anymore. Guy Gardner's Joey: He does it. Zach: fucking Voldarian part of him's awoken. That'd be really fucking cool. Joey: That'd be cool. Zach: do you like this show so far? Like, do you like where it's heading? What's going on with it? I'm really I'm really, really fucking with it. Joey: I do. I think the pacing th I've I've never been bored. Like there's not even like when we're doing flashbacks, like the whole scene was just his interview practically the last episode or not the third episode. And it's been great. It hasn't felt slow, it hasn't felt bad pacing. It's just been overall just flowing and flowing. It's it's just perfect. No. Zach: Go, go, go. I've I've yeah, I've never felt bored throughout any of this. and I'm intrigued every single step of the way. I'm like, there's they're setting up and leaving little breadcrumbs every step of Joey: Yeah. Zach: the way. I'm loving it. there's one part of it too. Yeah, it's got you thinking like what's going on? Joey: It got you thinking. It it Yeah. Zach: There's something that I'm Joey: I I forget that it's like DC lanterns. Like we're talking about Green Lantern right now. Like I literally just feel like it's a murder mystery. But then Zach: Honestly. Joey: it's aliens. Zach: Yeah, dude. Yeah, they got what's his fucking name? I forg I'm I was gonna look up things on my phone and I forgot that I literally have to put my phone over there. So I feel like an idiot. 'cause I had these theories Joey: Yeah, yeah. Zach: that I was gonna read. Let me just look him up on Twitch. So episode five, here we go. This is what I think is gonna happen in episode five. Hal goes into Rushville full full full force on his own while John is in the hospital or where he's visited and ultimately saved by Zoe. because obviously he gets in that car accident and everything. I and I think that's that little eye drop, that little red eye drop that we're getting. Cause we saw this guy's eye wide open, and I think that's Zoe saving John because it looks like there's debris all over him and everything. That's gonna be hit like That's what the manhunter does to heal the people of the town. That's my theory. I think Anton ends up killing Macon Sr. Here. believing he has killed the Manhunter, and Hal comes in to defeat Anton. That's what that whole th sequence is gonna be. Hal and John confront each other back at the motel where they have a fight that John wins. See how we had that little that fight sequence? Joey: He had the Yeah. Zach: And then John is still deemed unworthy of the ring. And how's imprisoned by the guardians? Joey: Think that's gonna be pretty peak. Zach: That's just a theory of mine or a couple theories that I've looking up. It's not mine. I c I've been saying a theory of mine, but a theory that I've looked up for episode five because we see Anton in it. And Anton's the one that Joey: Do we have a trailer? Zach: Yes, there's a trailer for it. Do you want to watch it? Joey: Yes, I haven't seen it. Zach: Here it is. Joey: bitch. Zach: Holds the gun on him. Joey: That's crazy. Zach: Jesus. Joey: It's a leg? Uh-huh. Zach: That's Zoe. There's the Joey: Yeah. Zach: that's what I was talking about. So that was the let me pause it real quick. I was talking telling you about the eye thing. Obviously you didn't Joey: Side rock. Zach: watch that yet. But yeah, that that was the eye drop I was talking about. There's a lot of sequences that you don't really see in this trailer. Let me break it down. So yeah, we got this Joey: That's gonna say. Zach: one. This, look it. We got John. He's surrounded, coming into the town. He's holding the lantern right now. Who is standing over here? Is my thing. Because he's looking at them. Joey: Two people for sure. Bunch of body Zach: Is that Joey: parts. Zach: is that the sheriff and is that his wife or his husband? Her husband, Joey: Probably. Husband. Zach: holy shit. Who knows?

obviously we see this. I is this from Hal? Is this why Hal loses the ring? That's why I'm saying Hal goes blazing into Rushville and just Joey: He goes crazy. I think Zach: kind of loses it? Joey: either that or th that group of people that show up and the alien force where the hell that want to stop the manhunters, they're just blowing up, maybe. They show up 'cause they had forty eight hours to respond. Could be Anton. Zach: True. That is true. Could be Anton. That is very true. My bad. That is a very that probably is exactly what it is. So we get this. Hal is saying, is it worth it? And I a hundred percent think that's John having the the ring. Joey: Yeah. Zach: And he's still deemed unworthy. where's another part of this? So get these people shooting Joey: Shooting. Zach: in a completely on a of like a blaze town of of Rushville. Whoever these guys are, I'm guessing this is the militia. Joey: Has to be. Zach: Anton's guys, I think more of the militia because they have this pickup truck and everything. Oop, did not mean to do that. Then we got Tal doing the ring. He's using this fucking Joey: Yeah. Zach: force. I don't know what that is. Something blows up, obviously. Maybe this is the start of it. He's doing like these pulsating energy ring. I don't know. Pretty cool. So yeah, right here we see Zoe. Joey: Shootin' him. Right? His wife. Yep. Zach: Obviously, we saw her get blown up in the last episode. So she's not dead. that's a manhunter. Joey: Yep. She's not dead. She's fine. Yep. Zach: That was one of my theories from the start that she was a manhunter, but that like almost confirms it. I don't know if she's the manhunter though. That's my other thing. Joey: Right, but she she didn't die, she got blasted. Zach: You know? So obviously she's alive. And does that come on, does it not look like Aaron Pierre's fucking eye? That's a hundred percent Jon Stewart. And the the hands almost look like Joey's. Joey. Zoe's. Like older. You know what I'm saying? Joey: Yeah, I see it. Yeah. Zach: And I think she had the white nail polish if I'm Think I'm right there. But yeah. Joey: The skin to the right, the lower right side just looks burnt. Yeah. It's not like Zach: Yeah, like you see all the debris and everything? I feel like that's gotta be John Stewart. Yeah, look at that. What the hell? Joey: Wow, what a shot. Zach: It heals him completely. And then we get this part where this is this is John. I this definitely the stunt double. This is not actually Aaron Pierre. Joey: Yep. Stunt that's definitely Zach: And then we get him throwing how. Joey: Is that actually Hal or is that another stunt out? Zach: No, it actually is hell, I'm pretty sure. no, that's a stud devil. Joey: No, that doesn't like six stunt. Zach: If we break it down. so looks like they're breaking on to make its property. Joey: They fostered in? Yep. Zach: Looks like there's a lot that's gonna happen in this episode. The whatever the fuck, the water tower falls down, but it blows up. Joey: Water tower's going down. Zach: So it's obviously not a water tower. Joey: Not a water tower. Gasoline water tower. Zach: You know, or something like that. Or does it lead to Yeah. That's gotta be the water tower, right? no. No no no no no. That's No, dude, that's Joey: Boom. Has to be. Or is that that could be one of the towers, sniper tower? Zach: the weapons place. See the guard tower on the side? That's the weapons place that they broke into in the last episode. There that's getting blown up. Joey: you're right. Yeah yeah they're busting in. Yeah. Zach: So they must have blown it up. Huh. Yeah, that's misdirection. Joey: Yeah. Zach: Yeah, okay. So that gets Joey: Let's get shit rocked. Zach: blow there's gotta be a lot that happens. What the Joey: yeah. Zach: fuck? Then we got, yeah, bloody Jon Joey: Is that a bar? Zach: Stewart. That's the bar that they own. And I'm Joey: Yeah. Zach: guessing that he's talking to The manhunter. That's my guess. Joey: I think he's gonna be talking to the Guardian Lady. Keep Wendy? Zach: But why would he be in the bar that they own? That's my thing. I feel like he had Joey: Yeah. Zach: he already went through the whole militia that they were surrounding him, and this is him after that, and they're having a talk. Joey: Could yeah. Zach: and he looks down because he has to do something that he didn't want he doesn't want to do. Joey: Lanterns. Zach: what else? There's an anything anything else in this episode. Teaser. he has the ring. Does it look a little yellow? A little yellow fide, that's my thing. Joey: hint, yeah. Zach: Everyone's dead. He walks in there. I think that's Anton. I don't know what's going on here. Why is she like pulling Joey: Pulls a gun on him. Zach: yeah, why is she pulling the gun? Joey: Cause maybe he's on the property. He's not supposed to be, you know. She's like, stop trespassing. I don't know. Zach: There's something has had to happen though. Joey: Yeah. Or she he just got done killing everyone. And now she's arresting Zach: Yeah. Joey: him. Zach: I mean I didn't expect him to come back to and taunt him and be like, Well, good luck with that junior. Wow. I don't even Joey: Right. That sucks. Hey, Junior. Absolute peak. Zach: know. Joey: It's gonna be good. It's gonna be Zach: Excited. I'm excited. Joey: good. That's all I know. Zach: I think episod I don't I don't think we see obviously we don't see a guy Gardner in episode five yet. I think episode six is finally when we see him. Seven? I think six is. Joey: Not yet. He's gonna show up episode I think seven. He's gonna show up and then he'll be there for the finale. Zach: I think six is because episode five's gonna end with some kind of conclusion to like maybe Hal gets Joey: It picks up the next Zach: locked up by the Guardians, something like that. There's gonna be a conclusion to something in this episode, I feel. Because i we gotta we gotta jump back to twenty twenty six and we only have or at the end of episode five, yes.

Episode six, seven. I think there's only Joey: I think it's eight. Zach: eight. I to wrap up the story and how big I think it actually is. 'Cause Sinestra breaks out. Joey: He has to. Zach: Sinestra's gonna break out. I feel like that episode six is where Guy Gardner comes in and that's where we see Jon Stewart locked up from Joey: Yeah. Zach: whatever the fuck has happened in episode five. So Joey: Yeah. yeah. Zach: we'll see. Joey: What is your t so far four episodes in. It sounds like you're you're loving this series. Zach: Yes, yes. Just did a little did a little breakdown of it. I think there's so many different ways the series can go. and I'm excited the way they're leading breadcrumbs and all that. So yeah, I am very, very in love with this series. It's one of the best things that DC has ever done, I think. Joey: there we go. Zach: 100%. I best TV show 100%. Better than Joey: Hundred percent. Zach: Peacemaker. I think better than The Watchmen. Joey: I agree. Zach: I and Creature Commandos, but that's not live action, so we'll see how they end it. Joey: No, it's not. Yeah. Man, I've yawned a few times. I've yawned a few times. I am quite tired and I I don't know, do you have anything that might give me some caffeine? Zach: Dude, no fucking way. Our sponsor. No, I was just kidding. Our partner actually. Dubby. Joey: Partner. Douby. Zach: Dubby, dude, this is actually one of my favorite ways at staying awake and getting a little bit of caffeine without the jitters. all these energy drinks nowadays, they got all these extra chemicals, this, this, and that make you fucking wired and stuff. This stuff, Dubby does not. It even says on it, be better. Come on. Joey: Be better. Zach: it's a jitterless energy blend To me, it kind of gives me that nostalgic taste of like a G Fuel, but without all the extra sugars and all the extra additives in there. So go over to W.com, use our code in the description, the Jay Z pod. Probably we'll be changing it, but for now it's the Jay Z pod. You get ten percent off at checkout. So go check that out, guys. Joey: Go check it out. Thanks. Zach: Do you wanna do a lanterns game, a little game show real quick? Joey: Let's do it. Zach: I'm gonna be asking the first sec the first segment's gonna be for you. Second segment's gonna be for me. I don't I don't really remember it, so You ready? I'll explain it for you then. It's gonna be like a rapid fire. You get 10 seconds to answer each question. Timer starts after the question is asked. Joey: Wait, I wait, say that again? I have ten seconds. Zach: You have ten seconds Joey: To answer as many as I can. Zach: to answer the question that I asked. Joey: Okay, I can do that. Zach: And you it goes after it starts after the question's asked. are you ready? Joey: I'm ready. Zach: All right. What small town in Nebraska do Hal and John investigate? Joey: Rushville. Zach: Rushville is correct. All right. In what year does the opening scene with young Jon Stewart watching Hal on TV take place? Joey: nineteen ninety six. Zach: That is correct. Holy shit. Two for two. All right. Next one. Well, I guess I meant to actually delete these. How is Hal Jordan found dead in the present timeline? Joey: he's found dead. It's winter. He's at the football field. Zach: How does he die? Five. Joey: Headshot. Zach: Four. Yes. Headshot. It is a headshot. Shot in the head, specifically, like a gunshot woolen. Joey: Chat the head. Head chat. Zach: Headshot, two, two, three. let me do that. Okay. Next one. What object delivers a message to Hal from the past? Joey: What object? A hologram. Zach: Yeah, I think it was actually meant to be John, but I said Hal. Did not mean to write that. Anyways, what does the alien suspect say his mission is about in one word? When they're sitting in the prison. And how is interrogating him? Two, one. Joey: Protection. Zach: No. Okay, so I might have fucked you because the question didn't really make too much of sense but war. Remember when Chris Coy, his character, Joey: War. Yeah. Zach: he's sitting there, he's like, Well obviously it's about war. Joey: Obviously. I love that scene. The investigation scene was so fun. Watching him be like, where did Harry Potter go to school? Zach: Fucking hogwarts. He's at the end he's it's fucking Hogwarts, by the way. Harry Potter went to Hogwarts. He gets all pissed about it. and then the Barack Hussein Obama. That one's that's fucking great. So yeah, It's he says it's about war, not peace. Anyways, true or false, Sheriff Carey immediately trusts Hal and lets him interrogate the suspect alone. Joey: False. Zach: False, yeah. I don't know why I said that. Joey: No jurisdiction here, jackass. Zach: All right, well you passed. There's there's a little segment Joey: Bang. Zach: right there. Got all of them right. Joey: I got no, I got one wrong. Did not get the investigation. Zach: Pretty much all of right? Yeah. The war. You the war one. So what is it? Five for six you were. Joey: I'll take it. That's a eighty percent. Zach: Pretty shitty, like eighty three, yeah. Do you want I'll just ask you the next ones too? Fuck it. I think it's pretty fun. what is the title of episode four? Nine, eight, seven, six, five, Joey: It's the Zach: four. Walt Disney. Three. Two. Joey: Whinny, weenie, weenie, weenie. Zach: Yeah, you got okay. Okay, okay. I'll accept it. Yeah, it's Walt Disney's he invented the word. Their architectural term for it is called the Weenie. Joey: Yes, I was gonna say. I was like, What are you saying? I said, wait Yes, and it was all about the weenie. Zach: Fucking hilarious. well, which imprisoned villain does Hal visit for intel in this episode? Joey: Sinestro. Zach: Yeah, I don't know why I have that on there. what does Sinestra warn Hal he may have to do to John according to multiple recaps? Joey: Kill him. Zach: Yes. What guardian gives John a secret order in episode four? She has Joey: Mm. Zach: a name. We do know her name. No. That's her Ozark's name. It's

Liana. I'm pretty sure I Joey: Wendy? I don't know. that's right. Liana. Zach: I guess it's Liana. I didn't Joey: Liana. Zach: know that was actually told, but I had to look it up. So Joey: I'm surprised you don't have a ring in the background. Zach: I really want a ring. Joey: By a little Amazon ring set on the back. Zach: No, it needs to be really cool. What alien threat is about to wipe out Rushville if they don't find the manhunters in time? Joey: Is it not Manhunters? Zach: No. Joey: What threat Zach: Yeah, what threat? Three? Two Dude, Joey: World domination. Zach: it's Anton. It's Anton. Anton's about to wipe this whole fucking thing out if they don't find the manhunter in forty eight hours. That's the whole thing they're setting up. Joey: that's the whole yeah, yeah. I gotcha. Actually didn't name's Anton. Zach: What do they use the Green Lantern or what does John use specifically? Use the ring to construct to get into the compound. Joey: my god, he makes like a drill, doesn't he? Or like a big like Zach: He likes sketches this weird ass fucking 360 drill. Dude, that shit was crazy. I don't know how you think of that. And Joey: Yeah, it's g Yeah. Chilled right through. Nope. But he did. Zach: the one thing that I really enjoy about the way Hal uses the ring and the way that John uses the ring is that when Hal does it, he just kind of makes it. Like the the the construct Joey: Yeah. Zach: just appears. But when John does it, he like in envisions every single part of Joey: All that little Zach: The the construct. Like when he was making the watch, he like literally thought of every single intricate part of piece that would go into the watch and like pieced it together. I thought that was crazy. Same thing with this Joey: And had it yeah. Zach: construct. I'm loving that. And Joey: Counterfeit money? Funk funk. Zach: you know what I mean? And then we saw that guys, he has like kind of like he makes these big ass fucking constructs. He could just do whatever the fuck he wants, dude. Joey: yeah, it's always some big ass thing. Yeah, it makes whatever the fuck. Zach: He like has a he has a really big willpower, is what I'm getting at. Like he's Joey: Yeah. Zach: able to just use however much fucking juice he has in the ring. Joey: Yeah. Zach: so yeah that's the that's the little game show we had They kinda sucked. Sorry, I put it together in like legit ten minutes. So Joey: It worked, it was a game show. Zach: all right it was a game show. we'll move on to Clayface. Are you excited about Clayface? That comes out October fourteenth or something. No, I think that might be Vision Quest, but comes out on October. Joey: I am excited. I am excited. I think it's gonna be it's gonna be a different approach, right? It's gonna be in the Batman universe. It's gonna be that dark, nitty gritty, probably a little gory. I think it's gonna be great, but I don't know where they're gonna go with it. Zach: You know, like where do you it's a rate Joey: I don't know what Zach: it's one of the first is it? No. Deadpool Molverine was rated R. But it was it really rated R, you know what I mean? Like it's Joey: This is rated Zach: not like this is like the first horror film that's like a superhero, I feel like, that I've s Joey: This will be taking that first step for them. Yeah. Zach: it's taken a real big step that we've never seen before is what I'm trying get at. And Joey: Yeah. Zach: it either could be really, really fucking good or Joey: Or really fucking bad. Zach: really fucking bad, dude. It could either be like lanterns. Superman Joey: Yeah. Zach: esque or you're gonna I I could see it dropping down to like super girl level Joey: yeah. Zach: writing, like Joey: I think it looks really good. Like watching the trailer, I think it just looks like Zach: The C GI. Joey: the CGI, the visuals look great. And doesn't yeah. Zach: So far that we've seen. Joey: So I think that gives me hope. It's not like super girl. When I saw the trailer, I God this gonna flop. Zach: You know, dude, I don't know. I just you weren't really interested in it, but I was like, I really hope that just I watch this movie and I find some kind of joy with it. But no, from the start, you're like, I don't know what they're doing, man. That Joey: And it just it could not. Yeah. Zach: Clayface, I'm just intrigued by it. It's something that we've never really seen before. and James Gunn is I think the main thing I'm really intrigued about is James Gunn's so good at taking somebody or taking a character or a team Joey: Comic book egg. Zach: that is just that isn't really big in comics. Joey: Mm-hmm. Zach: And bringing it well, I guess Clayface is big in the comics, but bringing it to the big screen and Joey: Yeah. Zach: adapting it in a way that just works, you know? And I think I Joey: yeah. Hundred percent. Zach: think Clayface i if they do it the right way, it could very well work in this universe and in James Gunn's DCU universe. Like it can fit in. Clayface can be a villain in multiple projects moving forward. So Joey: yeah, he can stay around, he can be rele relevant and like I don't know how you go from that rated R version and then bring him back down. I think it's gonna be difficult. Zach: Like the Punisher they did with Marvel did with Punisher, I feel like that's something they could do. Joey: But like if what we love about this movie is that graphic and that horror to it, Jesus. I don't know how you can refine that unless you do so in a way that like I don't even know. I j it it I think it's gonna be good. Zach: Yeah, it's it's it's I'm you know, it's something we never see. I'm just very intrigued on how he does it. Joey: Yeah. Zach: So, I'm can't wait. I'm gonna be tuning in for that. Joey: Most definitely. Zach: Do you you have letterboxed, right? Joey: I had. I need to get it again because I need to start ranking. Zach: Yeah. You need to get it again. That's right. Because yeah, I'm gonna be putting my reviews of movies

and such on there. I put my tenant score, I put my Spider Man brand new day score, and I put my the Odyssey score on there so far. So I I'm gonna keep doing some. Backtracking's Joey: Ooh. So yeah, I could get in there and backtrack. Okay. No Oppenheimer yet? Zach: hard sometimes though. I haven't watched Hehehehe Joey: Motherfucker chose tenant over Oppenheimer. It's a f it's a really good movie. It is a mind fuck, but it's Zach: Dude, Tenet was phenomenal. my gosh. Joey: such a good movie. It's a coveted movie too, twenty twenty. Zach: That is it is a COVID movie. And I I think that's probably one of the best movies during that whole COVID era. Cause wow, that movie fucking Joey: Watch out jet, watch your jet. Yeah. Zach: dude blew my mind. Blew my mind. I loved it. Ten times better than Brand New Day. Tenet over brand new day all fucking day. Yeah, so I have a little bit of rumors and news that I want to share with you. So Joey: Let's hear it. Zach: they're doing Avengers Doomsday reshoots last week, okay? And then we had Joey: Yep. Zach: some insider news get leaked that both purple and green witches are back on set for Avengers Doomsday. Those are both rumored to be Wanda and Clea Joey: Clear. Yep. Zach: or Agatha, I guess. Joey: Could be Agatha. Zach: So I don't know. could be a lot of I don't know. But Joey: She's purple. It'd be it'd be too obvious. Zach: we also had a leak that Scarlet Witches, I guess it wasn't a leak, but Scarlet Witch's yeah, her stunt double was working on something during those reshoots. Joey: stunt double or her but we don't know what it was. I know that it was like audio, but why would she post it, you know? Like why would she she openly post it on her Instagram? And so I think that's too obvious. Zach: During I guess, but like that's the that's the point. They wanna feed the I I guess that Marvel obviously didn't authorize that. But it's not that big of a leak in my opinion. But it is something Joey: Yeah. Probably not. Zach: to me, okay? It is something and I think Scarlet Witch is gonna be in this film. Whether we like it or not, she has to be. She has to be. How else are you gonna get Chaos Magic, dude? How else how else or not Chaos Magic? How Joey: She has to be. I wanted her. I want her to be. Exactly. Zach: else are you gonna get Doctor Doom's magic? If it I mean Loki, yes, but there's gotta get there's gotta be more powerful people in here, you know? Joey: Yeah. He I agree. Zach: so yeah, the both purple and green witches are back on set. That it's exciting. I also had seen an update saying that they are completely done editing and they're now on to the or completely done with like the shooting and they're done they're on to the editing and rating of the film. So like Rotten Tomatoes. Joey: shooting. Now they're on to the editing. They're gonna finish that two week they're gonna finish that two weeks before the movie, just like Brandon did. Rotten Tomato Zach: a hundred percent. Every time. Joey: doesn't

show up until like a week before either. Zach: But that's like the what they're working for. I'm pretty sure what they're Joey: Yep. Zach: trying to get at, so Joey: We're g a hundred days as of today. We are a hundred days out from Doomsday. Hundred days till Doomsday. Hey Zach: You're lying. 100 days out from doomsday, ladies and gentlemen. Come on. Doom, you're looking for this. Joey: Doom, you looking for the? Zach: Doom, you're looking for this, dude. Another hundred K right there. Another hundred K views. I don't know. You probably don't care too much about this, but Loki, this actually got released Joey: He died. Zach: today. He died to Gore the God Butcher in Marvel Rivals. they're building a crazy story in Marvel Rivals. If you keep up with Marvel Rivals lore, I'm keeping up with it. It's actually nuts, dude. Nuts. Even Apocalypse is dead. Joey: Holy shit. Zach: Konsu's dead. I'm pretty sure. I haven't I need I need to do more of a deep dive into it. I've been doing I've been seeing just stuff here and there. But yeah, Loki's dead. Got Gore the God Butcher's coming to Marvel Rivals. I cannot wait for that. finally we get another villain Joey: I have horrible news. Zach: in the game. What's up? No, you're good. Fuck asses. Normal Packer things, dude. It's okay. Joey: Finish finish just nap, sorry, finish. Zach: Yeah. Finally, we get a villain coming to the game. Gore the God Butcher gets the fuck. I'm just very excited to see how they implement his power set and skill set into the game. Is he gonna be a Vanguard? Is it gonna be a DPS? Is it gonna be a fucking healer? No way he's gonna be a healer. I think he's going to be a Vanguard God killing, you know, kind of makes me think he's a tank. So what were you gonna say though? Fuck ass. Joey: A show was canceled yesterday that Zach: What was that? Sure. Joey: broke my mind. Spider Noir. They canceled Zach: Ooh, that is true. Joey: it. No season two anymore. It had what eight, nine, ten Emmy nominations, and it won some yesterday. A phenomenal Zach: Yes, dude. Joey: show. I wanted to see a season two. I wanted to see a live action again. And they canceled it. Zach: Yes, dude. I thought he was great. Joey: I thought it was it had like a ninety eight percent on Rotten Tomato. It was fantastic. Bring it back. What are you guys doing? Zach: Comment down below if they if you guys think that they should bring back Spider Noir. They're probably not going to, but same with Joey: They're not gonna bring it back. Zach: like Wonder Man. Same with Armor Wars. They're saying that. What else was it? Joey: Rip. Rip. Yeah, that I mean that doesn't deserve anything. Zach: I don't I don't know. I was not very intrigued or like interested in Armor Wars, but Wonderman season two I would have definitely been in like interested in. Joey: yeah. I just it's quite canceling Zach: You just what? Joey: sh actually no, they're gonna start canceling more shows. That's that's been their thing. They wanna go back to more

movies. If they cancel it for a movie, I'm in. Zach: Well, they're th okay, that's one thing Marvel said is they're they are probably gonna bring Wonder Man Joey: They are canceling more shows. Zach: to a movie. Like, Joey: yeah. Zach: just because they canceled the show doesn't mean he's not gonna appear in something else. Ooh. Which I'm guessing they're setting up okay, what do you what Joey: Yeah. Like Daredevil's still gonna get a show and Zach: the fuck? Daredevil? Again? We're starting with this shit again? Joey: Daredevil's getting another show. He's getting another season. There's a reason why. Phenomenal. Imagine f Zach: Okay, I guess. Joey: doom in the fucking ho. Zach: What's going on Joey: You think Doom in a hallway that shows up? He's just Zach: You just see Daredevil panting. He's Joey: Fuck dude. Zach: like panting like a dog, dude. Joey: He's just panther. Fucking doom can't handle it. Zach: I mean, it I y you did say it's kind of ironic or it's kind of coincidental that Doom's attacking Joey: Doom? Zach: right as Daredevil's put into jail. Joey: Seems kind of weird. And Hawkeye's making his return. Avengers don't Zach: I Joey: lose with Hawkeye. Zach: you think he's making his dude. They haven't lost with if Hawkeye returns, how do they lose in Doomsday? Come on, you cannot break his 2 0 streak, 3 0 streak. Joey: They don't. Doom, you lookin' for this? Zach: Dude, we're looking for this. but yeah, that was that. We Loki died. Joey: That's some updates for you guys. Zach: No. I got some more. I farted again. Wanda was Joey: Jesus. Zach: actually supposed to show up at the end of Vision Quest. The creator of the show shared today that they actually had a concept where Paul Bettney actually made the the suggestion Joey: Made her. Zach: to them. Mater, what? Joey: I was thinking that vision was gonna like create her. Yeah. Zach: create her no no no no maybe. I don't know what the that's what I was like, I don't know what the suggestion was, but they were saying that she pops up at the end of Vision Quest and that's like her reintroduction. But I'm guessing Yeah. That's my thing. Joey: Yeah. They already took her out, they already said that she's out. Like why why would they announce that before? Like that that gets me thinking. Why would you announce that before? Just like talk about that afterwards. So she's in the sh you heard it here first. She's Zach: She's in Vision Quest. Joey: confirmed. She's confirmed in Vision Quest. Zach: Or Doomsday. I think I don't know. She has to pop up. Her story's not done. Joey: Yeah, she has to. Did you do this? Sorry. Zach: last one I want to share is Sebastian Stan actually pitched a half jokingly Siccaro esque winter soldier movie to Kevin Feige. He said it's about a guy who thinks he recognizes someone from his past that had something to do with when, well, you know, he was brainwashed. Joey: Yeah. Zach: And he gets obsessed with the with this person. He goes on a whole journey to try to figure out who this person is. It's kind of like a sort of like a thriller. Joey: I like it. I think that'd be pretty good. Zach: Dude. Joey: I think Sebastian is dead after this movie. I do think the Winter Soldier's dying. He's going into the DC universe. He ain't gonna have time. He's dead. Zach: That's my thing. Is that confirmed that he's dead? He wants to bring back like a w winter soldier going to the past because Joey: He's gone. The old Yeah. Zach: he's gone. Yeah. I think I think Bucky's story comes to an end. But really c I Joey: This is a great story. Zach: I think that would be a really cool movie. I'm Joey: I agree. Zach: always down to have more Winter Soldier. I love Winter Soldier. Joey: I love the winter soldier. Zach: You know? Always down to get more of him. I had some questions and theories, I guess. I'm no, I already said all those. Okay, let's just go on to some theories about Scarlet Witch, Doomsday, the DODC, just some Marvel theories now that I have written down. Bentney. yeah, this is the thing that Paul Bentney just spoiled Vision Quest for us. They said at the ending of Vision Quest, he creates a really exciting springboard for where Vision Goes Next, which is already kicking off speculation about secret wars. God bless you. Dude, that didn't even pop up on the record. I didn't even hear it. Joey: I'm muted. Zach: you did? Okay. I thought you I thought it just completely like. Yeah. Joey: You think I'm just like ow? Sorry, say that again. Zach: No, Paul Bettney in an interview for Vision Quest, he said that he's really excited because they created like a springboard for where Vision goes on to after this Vision Quest TV show comes out and it's like, so he's either in me personally, I think he's in Doomsday. And that's why why? Joey: I don't think so. I think he's th there's no reason for him to be. I think he's gonna be in secret Zach: Why wouldn't there be? Joey: secret war. Cause this show is all about getting his identity Zach: Yes, secret wars. Joey: back and things and understanding and getting him out there again. But I don't think I don't think he's gonna be in Doomsday. Zach: You just really want them to fucking like die in dooms. Like I I think that they're Joey: They're gonna die. Zach: it's such a shitty fucking lineup they put together of heroes. Like, yeah, of course they're gonna die. They gave them no fucking fighting chance. There's no chance. What is Yelena Joey: There was. Yeah. No chance. There's no chance. That's why Zach: gonna do to Doctor Doom? She's just a black widow human. You know, she has no sort of Joey: Yeah. The fuck's the Falcon gonna do? No super strength? Zach: Yeah, n none of have super strength. They're just humans with gadgets. Joey: Well, Russian guy does, yeah. Zach: but it's a it's a weakened version of the super soldier serum. Joey: He's gonna get boom. Zach: The one the only person that I think has a chance is the void or sentry. You know? Joey: Of course. Or if Wanda's back,

I Juan has a chance. Zach: can you imagine that the void takes Doctor Doom in like comes out of Sentry takes Doctor Doom into the void and Doctor Doom like breaks out of it and kills the void. Joey: Kills a Zach: That'd be fucking cool. I think that Joey: Yeah. Zach: could be a way that you take the void out of Sentry and have Sentry be his own character finally. Because I don't know. Right Joey: Exactly. About time. Zach: now, the way that they're having or they're advertising Bob for this movie is that he's just gonna be on the sidelines like this fucking loser, you know what I mean? Doing the dishes for the the new Avengers. So Joey: Just there. He's just sidelined it. Yeah. The new Avengers. Yeah. Zach: I don't know. I think there's gotta be something that they do with Bob, and that'd be a really cool way. That's my that's my theory right there. but my main thing I want to talk about right now is Scarlet Witch. she seemingly confirmed for Doomsday. We've seen multiple theories. A lot of people have been talking about it. I mean, if people are talking about it, if it's going around on the internet, there's multiple things confirming that Joey: Uh-oh. Zach: Where did you go? There you are. You Joey: You left. you're back. Zach: left. Joey: You left. You just went and I just kept talking. I was like, shit. Zach: No, you left. Joey: You left. Zach: I kept talking. Joey: I kept talking to you, I could see myself and you were like Zach: And you were like, okay, well, Joey: Weird, we're back. Zach: we're back. Let's just cut that out. What I was gonna say though is I have more things about how Scarlet Witch comes into the universe. Joey: Yeah. Zach: some of my theories are that she transfers her consciousness into Earth eight three eight's Wanda that has the Illuminati. So Joey: I like it. Zach: when she has that whole I I forget what that cast was called, that tower that she's on at the end of Multiverse of Madness, but Joey: Mm-hmm. That she dies in or whatever. Zach: She dies in. I think that she brings it all down on her and that version of her dies, but she Joey: She Zach: transfer transfers her consciousness or dream walks into that other Wanda and she's just that Wanda. I mean, she can literally warp reality into whatever she fucking wants to be. So Joey: She could do that. Yeah, she can. I think when the whole scene where the building's falling down and and you see a quick glimpse of red, I think she definitely like fucking she did something. Yeah, she's alive. I think she went Zach: You know, teleports out. I don't know. They're Joey: to the void. Or the It's the Void, right? Deadpool Vo yeah, Zach: Deadpool over in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joey: 'cause you see like her that statue hanging when the when you meet all the characters. It's the void. I like it. Zach: Yeah, that's a different kind of yeah, it's it's the void. It's the void. It's called the void. or Franklin. So we have Franklin now in the MCU. maybe sh Joey: He's powerful. Yep. Very powerful. Zach: and obviously we see Doctor Doom takes him. maybe Joey: Yeah. Zach: takes him, who knows? But I'm saying my theory is Doctor Doom takes him, knows Joey: Yeah. Zach: that he wants to get Wanda's chaos magic, goes to our universe, revives Wanda with Fran Joey: Brings them back just to steal the power. Zach: you know what I'm saying? Well, or she has no real or not reality, no recollection of her memories and her past life. And that's Joey: Right. Zach: where we get the children's crusade storyline, where we get a Wanda that finds herself in a like engaged to Doctor Doom because she Joey: And she doesn't sh yeah. Zach: doesn't even know. She has no recollection. Joey: She just shows up. She's my God, you're right. I love you. Zach: Yeah or like Doom just kind of manipulates her in a sense, you know? And finds herself in Lat Varia and that's how she's working as a witch or She chooses to work with him because she believes his scientific and magical pro prowess can help restore her fractured mind and find her children. Because obviously this whole time she wants to just be with her children. Or a vision. So we'll see. Joey: Yeah, exactly. Yep. Zach: those are come with some of my theories for that. Your thoughts. Joey: I like it. Zach: Thoughts? Anything? Joey: I like I think when we think Avengers movies, they always flow and you don't have to see any of the other movies. And so I think it's gonna be interesting to see how they tie this all in because if you didn't watch multiverse of the ma madness, you would think she's still alive because if you just Zach: Mm-hmm. Joey: watch the Avenger movies, they flow. And so they have to do this in a unique sense where you have to kind of fill fill out the the viewers in. Zach: Well, Wanda, I feel like she had almost more of a character arc after Endgame than she did during those Avengers movies. You know what I mean? Yeah. Joey: most definitely. Yeah, with like WandaVision and everything, yeah. And then her own movie, technically, Doctor Strange. Zach: And then be tripped again. Holy fuck. My bad. And then she was technically an Agatha. She has a whole storyline with Joey: Yeah. Zach: her children. multi Joey: She was an Agatha all along? Zach: Technically they said Wanda Maximoff. She's like her her face is Joey: yeah, they said it. Yeah, yeah. Zach: dead. Yeah. She's not really dead. Yeah, and then obviously her children. We have Billy. I don't know. Joey: Yep. The Scarlet Witch. Yep. They live on through her. Zach: I think they're gonna adapt their own version of the children's crusade storyline where the her children are looking for her and need some kind Joey: Yeah. They want their money. Zach: of something. So Joey: Who do you think our universe's anchor being is? Zach: You mean like our our world Joey: Our like our world, our universe, who is Zach: IRL Earth. Joey: IRL Earth, you and I, every day, who's our anchor being? Zach: throw Morgan Freeman up there, I feel like. Morgan

Freeman's a I think he might be an anchor for us. Joey: I I could see that. Zach: That dude's been old as dirt for seventy five years. Kinda like Wolverine. He's looked the same. He's seen some fucking things. He's keeping our place Joey: He's seen some things. Yeah, he's seen some things. Man, that's a Zach: Who else, man? Joey: I mean that's someone that's alive. I'm trying to think like past. Zach: Well, if it's the past and that's why everything's unraveling, fuck. Did they already die? Dolly Parton? Dude, was it when Kobe died? Was it Kobe Bryant? Joey: I think that our Dolly Parton. Fuck. It could have been Kobe. Zach: Holy fuck. Kobe was our anchor being. And that's Joey: Think so. Zach: why everything's been You know what we have to do now. Do we to save the universe? We Joey: Think we have to save the unit. Zach: have to fucking save the universe. Holy shit, our anchor being's dead. That Joey: Anchor being is gone. Zach: that literally makes so much we had COVID. Donald Joey: Yep. Right after. Zach: Trump is president. The economy shit. Fuck man. god, he's Joey: I think Conan O'Brien is our anchor being. Zach: God, dude. That's why he has no friends. He's trying to hold the whole the whole place down. That's what that's name is podcast, dude. Joey: He doesn't have time. His podcast. Conan O'Brien needs a friend. He's an anchor being. Zach: Do you do you listen to that podcast actually? That makes sense. Joey: I do. Do you? Zach: I do not. I just had a spider come down from the ceiling and I just fucking hit it. Maybe that was my chance of becoming Spider-Man. Fuck! Joey: Fuck, you ruined it. Damn. Zach: also I want to talk about X-Men. So, are you excited for X Men? Joey: I am. Zach: I my only problem with they haven't or my only problem with X-Men right now is they haven't announced a Magneto in this movie. Like, I Joey: You're right, they haven't. Zach: feel like you have to announce if you're gonna have an X-Men movie, you have to announce a Magneto being some somewhere part of it. That's my thing. Joey: Maybe he shows up at the end. Like maybe he's gonna yeah, he's gonna be an end credit. Zach: I think it's gonna be an end thing. They were gonna they're not gonna introduce him right away. I think this is like the start of the X Men and how Charles and Jeans. I think they're gonna do a Charles Jean relationship more focus on. Joey: Yep. yeah. They haven't announced Wolverine either. Is that gonna be Zach: No. Joey: an end credit? Zach: There's a lot of you know, I think there's gotta be a reveal in there, maybe. They could do Joey: They can do a movie without him until the end. Like there he is, like Zach: a couple, I think, without Wolverine. Because there's there's several storylines where Wolverine isn't a part of the X Men. Like he just does his own thing. He's rogue. Just keep him out of it for a little bit. We have such a we've just got done pretty much with Hugh Jackvins, probably in Doomsday. Wolverine. So let's just take a second. Joey: Yeah. Bring some I don't think you can make a new wol yeah, I don't think you can have a new Wolverine. You have to Zach: Yeah, give it some air, dude. Give it a couple years without Wolverine, I think. Joey: Yeah. Zach: Bring him in after you already established the X-Men in this universe, gave them a movie, then bring in Wolverine in the neck or Wolverine into the next movie. Or the even the movie after that, dude. You honestly could. If you do the right thing. but Alan Rickson. Rick what the fuck is your Joey: Mm-hmm. Zach: dog? Come on, man. We're filming a podcast. All right, all right. Joey: I think we had a he w he wants dinner. I'm gonna give him dinner. So he's busting my balls. Zach: Good. I gotta go to the bathroom anyway, so that works. Candy corn? What the fuck? That's a thing? Nerd candy corn? Joey: Mm. Mm. Not sponsored, by the way. Zach: Not at all. no what I was trying to get into though is Alan Rickson. Rickson? Rickson? Rickson? Why the fuck do you say his name? Rickson? Rickson? Yeah. He's being eyed to play Sabretooth in the the new X Men movie. Joey: That'd be pretty good. I could see that. Zach: I think that's the one superhero casting that I've seen from him that actually makes sense in my eyes. Now Batman or whatever the fuck it is. Joey: That makes sense. Yeah. People had him at Batman, yeah, I was like, it's he's not Batman. Zach: He's just too big. It's like another Ben Affleck, dude, you know? Joey: He's too big for Batman. Yeah. Zach: I mean, I guess Batman should be big, but it's a different type of like muscular tone. It's not like this fucking big brolicly dude. I feel like he's gotta have like some kind of Is he happy, dude? Didn't he just get food? His motherfucker already eat? Holy shit. Joey: Now he's all excited. No go. Go lay down. Fuck her. Dude, dun dun dun. Zach: Fuck, why am I what I'm forgetting? I'm forgetting your dog's name. Oreo? Joey: Wayland. Wayland. Zach: Wayland, fuck. I can't believe I that's why it's a kind of a hard name, dude. Sorry. I haven't seen him yet either. Waylon. That motherfucker's cute. Joey: That is a trick we know, watch. Do the fucking trick. Hey, God damn it, one second. Zach: You didn't teach him shit. He's What the fuck did you teach me? Give me a treat now. And your mic fell. Joey: No shit. No shit. Zach: It's great. Joey: Alright, we're gonna get this trick one so. Get the camera all good again. Come Zach: Fucking hope, dude. Holy shit. Joey: here. Yes. Zach: No way. No way. You do the thlip and he does a fucking Joey: Hey, sit Zach: spin? Joey: down. Bang. Zach: That's great. How long did it take you to learn that? Or take to learn that. Yeah. Joey: Name. A while. Come here. Come here. Yeah. Zach: That's gives him nothing. Joey: Gives a fucking nothing but love. Zach: So yeah, that that'll wrap up our Marvel part of the that's all I got for it at least. We wanna talk about anything else about Marvel that's coming up. Joey: No, that makes sense. That's good.

Moving on to some rather unfortunate news for a whole fan base that is just devastated. Peter Collin has passed away. Zach: In the Joey: And this one hit hard. This one, I grew up being probably the biggest Transformer fan. And Zach: I don't Joey: it kills me to know that he was in pain. Zach: Cara. Joey: He's a leader. His speeches Optimus Prime will forever live on. Zach: In the arms of Joey: And it's killed me. And the craziest thing that I saw on the internet, he died in 826, 2026. And in or it's either 828 or 826, but Zach: The Anim. O eight twenty six. Joey: yeah. In the original movie when Optimus Prime dies, the like seconds or whatever matches that. Yeah. Like the time Zach: It's the animated show, right? Yeah. Joey: matches it. And that was crazy to see. Zach: was like twenty six eight twenty six minutes and eight seconds. It's like wow dude that Joey: Yeah. What? Zach: is something that you just can't make up. Like that, that that one fucking hurt Joey: No. So just Zach: a little bit. Joey: in his honor, have you seen the Transformer movies? Zach: Yeah, of course. I love the Transformers movies. I absolutely love Joey: All right, rank Live action. There's six of now, I believe. Zach: Yeah, that last one was one of the worst. The last night or something? No, not the last night. Joey: yeah, hundred percent. No, the last night was actually one of the worst. It was the rise of the beasts. Zach: Rise the Beast. Yeah, that wasn't the I mean, the the one scene that I thought was really cool in that was Bumblebee coming out of that airplane. That shit was sick as fuck. what is the song that says? Joey: They don't call it a comeback. Zach: Don't call it a comeback! my gosh, dude. I literally got goosebumps in the movie theater. But everything else in that movie Joey: yeah, when he jumped out that bitch. Zach: sucks. Joey: There's some good scenes. Wheeljack. Throw a picture up of throw a picture of Wheeljack in that movie and throw a comic accurate Wheeljack. They did my boy so wrong. And his voice, why is he Mexican? I don't I don't got any issues with it. But he's supposed to be a badass, and they made him a fucking They made him a pussy. Zach: I see they made him like yeah, like with these glasses Joey: They if you look at Zach: and shit. Joey: Glasses, Geeky versus in the fucking comics and like in the live action show and the Zach: That's kinda like how they did Donatello and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, dude. Joey: Exactly. Complete badass, Wheeljack. They Zach: Give him like the glasses and shit. Joey: killed him. They nerfed my boy Wheeljack. I want to see him. He was in the Bumblebee movie and it looked perfect. Look up Wheeljack Bumblebee movie. Look how beautiful. And that's in the same universe as Rise of the Beasts. He looks phenomenal, the concept art. Zach: Hold up. Let me share it with mine. Joey: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one on the left. That Zach: This one? Joey: one. He looked amazing. That's like him. That's fucking him. And

then they did the other guy. Are you kidding me? That that's what they do? Are you fucking kidding me? He Zach: I get it now, I get it. Joey: He's a sports car. They turn him into a van. Zach: Like a rusted old fucking van. Dude, Joey: We Zach: that is terrible. Wow. wow. They butchered him. Okay. I get what you're saying. Joey: They butchered him. I'm sorry. All right, back to your reviews. You put this one at the worst. Zach: yeah, let me just look up all the Transformers movies. Fuck it, we'll do a Transformers review or rankings real quick. Better I could look it up and find a ranking in two seconds. Okay, so we got Transformers, Revenge of the Fallen, Transformers, Age of Ex Extinction, Rise of the Beasts, the movie. I guess that was just the first one. that was nineteen eighty six. Not that one. Joey: Yep. Yep. Yep. That was nineteen eight yeah. That's re releasing next week by the way. Or actually this week Zach: I don't think I've ever watched that one. Joey: Go see in theaters. Zach: You got it? Yeah. Gotta find food somehow during the day, I get you, bro. Joey: Do it literally. Go see it in theaters. It re-releases and it has an additional 14 minutes with unreleased Zach: Really? Joey: footage from Peter Collins Optimus Prime or a speech. Something. That's the animated one. Yes. Zach: that's the animated one that we're talking about. Okay. Joey: That's re-releasing this week on the 12th. Zach: See, I thought that was a T V show. I didn't know that that was a movie. Okay. Joey: No. They did have a TV show. I went to the movie, then it goes T V show. Zach: Okay, okay, okay. Dark of the Moon, that's the one in Chicago. Transformers, Transformers One. Are we are we doing Transformers One in this? Joey: We could throw that in the list too. Zach: Okay, fuck it. And I haven't watched Bumblebee, so I'm not doing it on there. Joey: Throw that one on there. Haley Seinfeld's in Zach: The Last Night I don't remember it, dude. I never watched it. I don't really remember Bumblebee. the lat what's the last night? Joey: Do you have a ranking thing that you could throw up? Zach: I could do yeah, I'll do that. Joey: The last night that's Optus Prime goes to space, turns into a bad version of himself, turns into Nemesis Prime. The whole gang freaks out when he returns, but he's evil. He's purple now. There's a sword. That he uses and he fights Bumblebee. Bumblebee gets his ass kicked but Bumblebee kicks his ass Zach: Should we do like Joey: back. Zach: S tier, A tier, B tier? Okay. You wanna do that? Okay. Joey: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Zach: Here it is. All right. So we got well fuck, can't really Joey: Beautiful. Which one first? I know those. We know all. I got Alright, that first one's Bumblebee. Yeah, I know those. Bumblebee. Zach: Do you know Yeah, this is Bumblebee. I feel like just not for me. Joey: Y I put it not for me or C tier for sure. It's just not good. Zach: I just I don't really remember the film too much. I just I Joey: It's it does its own thing, which I like. But it's just like half of the movie it's like, my car transforms. Huh Put Zach: Yeah. Joey: some action in the fucking movie. It's a ball movie movie. Yeah. Zach: You know, what's this one? Joey: Next one that is Age of Extinction. Zach: Fuck, I just needed Joey: Wait. Zach: like a little breakdown. Joey: Is it? Hold on, that might not be right. The other one no yeah, it's right, it's right. Age of Extinction, that's the first time without Sam at Wiki. I liked the beginning. The we see Ratchet die. Hurt my feelings. I'd put it Ratchet dies in this one. They have the the the US Zach: ratchet dude no Yeah no Joey: is hunting them down. It's just not for me. Zach: I'd say not for me. No, no, no, no, no, no. This Joey: Yeah. Zach: one Dude, I can't even I I don't even know which one's it. I need to put a d I need to do a different one. I need to do a different one. Joey: I got you. Well I I can tell you what they are. There you go, now they have the c covers on there. Zach: See what seeing? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Yes, okay. This is Bumblebee. This one. Joey: Yep, yep. That's C tier. Popa movie at C tier. Zach: Transformers one for me. I'm just gonna throw it up there. That's an A. Dude, I loved that movie. And it just didn't get the it didn't get the Joey: Transformers one, I'd give it an A. Yep. That movie was phenomenal. Did such a great it didn't get the hype. Zach: Yeah, dude. If s if Joey: It was perfect. Zach: it got a better review and people went and saw it more in theaters, I think it would have got a second one. Joey: yeah. yeah. Zach: But man, that was a good movie. Joey: Transformers, do the one on the right, all the way to the right. Put that one at C as well. Rise of the Beasts. Zach: Which one's this one? Joey: That's Rise of the Beast. I it had some decent ac actually give it a B. Give it a B. It had some good action scenes. Zach: I was gonna say a B. Joey: But man, the story and like some of the animation and CGI just it didn't it look sloppy. Versus what we saw in 2008. Exactly. That's kind of a nod Zach: Why do we make a human transformer? That thing Joey: to the original TV show. They kind of have the Zach: was it? Joey: kid has like a suit that he wears sometimes. But still, it doesn't make sense. Zach: Okay, I just I really did not expect it. Really did not expect it. Joey: all the way to the right again, Transformers the Last Knight. Put that at D. That was the worst one they've ever made. Zach: Was that with that's in Chicago, right? No. Joey: No. Chicago's the third one. That's the dark of the moon. That one I'd put at an A. Zach: That one I'd fucking love, dude. That's this one right here. This one. This one. Joey: Nope. Nope, it's the third one. That one. Yep. That is dark of the moon. I'd put that a S or A. Zach: I put that in S dude. I thought that was one of the best Transformers movies. Joey: I actually movie ever made is Revenge of the Fallen. The second one. Zach: Is that

when the one Joey: Prime dies. Zach: what's his fucking face? It's the last the last prime, right? Is that the one you're talking about? That's my favorite one. Yes, that's my favorite one. Joey: Last Prime. Yep, yep. Yes. They go, he rips his parts out, gives them to Prime, he turns into an absolute badass. They're fighting in pyramids. One man No, that's Revenge of the Fallen. Zach: Dark of the moon. Dark of the moon, right? Are you serious? Joey: Yes. There's technically the the one that you're thinking about potentially is like Sentinel Prime. He shows up, he's another Prime, and he sabotages and betrays everybody. That's Dark of the Moon, yes. Ironhide gets fucking blasted. Yes, that one's phenomenal too. I think Zach: Yeah, that's that's darker the moon. Sentinel Prime. That's my fav Yes, okay, that okay, I was thinking of the wrong one. I'm thinking of the wrong one. Joey: Revenge of the Fallen is an S tier though. Throw that shit up there. Yeah, yeah, that one, S tier. That's regular Zach: One's I think this is Joey: Transformers. The very first one, I'd put that in an A. It builds it up, Zach: It's A and then Joey: it's a great story, just phenomenal. And then no no no no. Put that shit at like C Zach: Wait, isn't this isn't this Revenge of the Fallen? Or Joey: No, that's Age of Extinction. Zach: Age of Extinction? Joey: No Shia LaBeouf. It has fucking Mark Wahlberg. It's like Yeah, that's Zach: no yeah C. No no yeah C. Joey: a C tier. It it was fun to see it. It had some good action scenes. Ratchet dies, go fuck That's a beautiful ranking of Transformers. Zach: I think yeah, I think this is a beautiful ranking of Transformers. And I don't even r like fully rem I feel like all the films kind of blend together at a certain point. obviously you get new like okay, yeah, you get like Mark Wahlberg and you get fucking Joey: Yeah. Zach: new people in them, but like the Transformer esque part of it, I feel like it's kinda the same. Kinda the same story in a lot of the films. But I love I love it. The action, Michael Bay. Isn't Michael Bay coming back for Joey: Beautiful. It's absolutely Michael Bay. They're supposed to make another one, but we just lost Peter Cole and how had Zach: I mean you can AI. You got AI nowadays, dude. Come on. Joey: I don't I don't want I don't want a new Optimus. They tried it in Transformers One with Chris Emsworth. But I'll draw on. I don't want him. I don't want him Zach: Badass a trot. Joey: in any of the live actions. Leave it as it is. We don't need prime anymore. I think we need to have Ultra Magnus. I think his name is Magnus. Ultra Magnus. Zach: Yeah, I'm not I'm not too deep into the Transformers lore, so can't really tell you too much about who the fuck that is. That's fucked. You don't have to kill off screen. Joey: Kill off screen and then show up with Ultra Magnus. Or Hot Rod, he can have Hot Rod just like the OG movie. Zach: Fuck out of Alright. DC stuff. We'll move on to some of that. And then we'll get wrap it up from there, pretty much. Joey: Awesome. DC. Zach: so I'm pretty sure. Let me just look this up real quick when the when Warner Brothers is sold. The proposed one point or a hundred and ten point nine billion dollar acquisition of Warner Brothers Discovery by Paramount Skydance is delayed until as late as June 1st, 2027, pending antitrust lawsuits. Wow. So they signed this. they agreed to it on February twenty-seventh, twenty twenty-six. Shared holder approval that was approved they approved the merge on April twenty third, twenty twenty-six. They expected closing date. It got delayed as it was supposed to be at like October first, I thought. but they have to have all these court hearings and stuff. So the next legal step technically they have a court hearing on September twenty fourth, twenty twenty six regarding the bond request tied to the delay. but It might be June first, twenty twenty-seven when we actually see this Joey: Go through. Zach: deal go through. Holy shit, I couldn't think of the word deal. Anyways, so what that means for the DC though is I do not think that what's his face? James Gunn and Peter Saffron, I think it is, owns two Joey: Yep, Pierre Saffron. Zach: Peter Saffron. Those two, they can't really announce any further DC films or anything without this going through because they need the new shareholders, the new people that own Joey: You need the sharehold. Yeah. Zach: the the actual DC to agree with what the like the way they're going with it and the the the direction that they want to take it. But I don't think that's going to be a problem, especially with the the recent success of lanterns. Superman, Joey: Yeah, they should be able to keep going. Zach: I think Superman was really good. I think he got a pretty good decent review. I Are you serious? Joey: I wanna re watch it. I've only seen it once. I need to rewatch it. Yeah, I've only seen it once. Zach: It's on HBO, I believe. Yeah. Joey: Mm. Should be. And pri prime. Zach: In Prime. Yeah, I think it was on Prime. I rewatched it a couple times now. It's dude. It's it's just as peak as the first time. I need to watch Batman again, 'cause Batman Joey: I gotta check it out. Yeah. That Batman, I wanna watch Batman again. I've seen that a few times, but that's just a great watch. Zach: You know I haven't watched Batman Begins Ever. Joey: Really? Holy shit. Zach: I've watched all the other ones besides Batman Begins. Joey: You gotta watch Batman again. Zach: I don't know how you know, like how do I how do I yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I don't want to talk about it. Joey: Yeah. Just get that done. Just homework. Homework time. Zach: so speaking of James Good at Peter Saffron, Gail Gaddot, Garat, how do you say her last name? Godot, Gail Godot. Joey: Gail Godot. Zach: Whatever the fuck, you guys, however you say your last name. Wonder Woman, the old Wonder Woman from fucking the Snyderverse. She was actually promised a Wonder Woman three from Peter. Saffron and

James Gunn when they first signed on to Warner Brothers Joey: No. Zach: and or DC studios and all that. But they later they later scrapped it and did not tell her. No apparent reason. They just fucking dipped on it. Which Joey: Just we're good. After the success of the other one and Zach: I think they listened to feedback of the community and were like, please, just get the fuck out of here Joey: They do. Just stop her. Zach: with her. She sucks. Okay. I don't think I I really don't like her as an actor. Joey: No, she just had her running movie or whatever. It's called like Runner, a running. I think it got Zach: I don't know. Joey: like a five percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Zach: Dude. I mean she's in wicked. She's yeah. I d I don't even wanna watch Yes, she Joey: Yeah, she is in Wicked. Wait, she's not in Wicked? Is she in Wicked? Zach: is. She's the fucking witch. Joey: No, you're thinking of you're thinking of you're not thinking you're thinking Zach: Swear to God. no, not wicked. What is it? Joey: of Snow White. Zach: Is that Snow White? Snow White. Yeah, sorry. Snow White. My bad. Fuck. Joey: I was like, I don't think he was in Wicked. I haven't even I I haven't seen Wicked in Zach: They're both bad in my opinion. I'm not watching either of those. Those are like in Joey: Yeah. Zach: my in my opinion, girl shows. and I heard Snow White was really bad. So really, really bad. Joey: Yeah. Katie watched that because she's like, Everyone was talking about how bad it was and I wanted to see how bad it was. I was like, How was it? It was bad. Zach: It was awful. Rachel Ziegler, Joey: It was horrible. Zach: as Snow White. She just absolutely like for the marketing of that movie fucked it up. I didn't even want to watch it just because of her. Joey: She just yeah, her fuck. She killed it. Yeah. Zach: So Yeah, so glad she's out of Wonder Woman. There's also a new Wonder Woman that is rumored Joey: Well, there we go. Zach: Let look up the new Wonder Woman actress. Joey: Cause I'm a pop rucker, yes I am. Zach: Okay, so Adria Arjona, she actually has a mystery role in Man of Tomorrow. Joey: Interesting. They could be of them. Zach: I'm guessing in mana tomorrow we form the Justice League. Joey: Do you think they need to g I don't think they do it yet. It's too soon. They're building up Zach: You got the core I mean, all you need all you need is Wonder Woman and Flash. I mean and Batman shit, you're right. Maybe they don't do it yet, but they start and they start introducing Joey: Yeah. I don't think it's time yet. Zach: pieces. Joey: I don't think the bat I think this Batman, he's a standalone. I don't think they merge universes. Zach: Well, they got Batman Brave and the Bold. So obviously that's gonna be a new Batman. I'm Joey: That's true. Zach: guessing. I don't think yeah, I don't think Robert Pattinson goes into this universe. I'm sorry. He's Joey: It can't be Robert Bansett. Yeah, no. He needs to say his own Zach: it's too dark. I don't know. Which okay, maybe Joey: And it's perfect as a solo like is I guess the this the girl the from lanterns, she's from Gotham. Like they still hint at it and things, but like they never yeah, Sheriff Carrie. And so I was like, you know. Zach: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The the sheriff, Sheriff Carey, Sheriff Kenny. Yeah. She is from Gotham. They're obviously hinting at a Batman being in. I mean, if you mention Gotham, everyone's gonna know Batman's Joey: In the universe. You have to yeah. Zach: gonna be there. So that was a hint at Batman being in this universe. but you gotta establish you can't have a justice like you have the Justice gang. You know what I mean? You had some of that. You had Mr. Terrific. I think he's Joey: Yeah. Zach: gonna be part of the Justice League. We're gonna have Hawk Girl. I don't know if she's gonna be a part of it. I Joey: Mm, I don't think so. Zach: don't think Guy Gardner's gonna be part of it. Maybe Mr. Terrific even isn't a part of it, but Joey: Probably not. Zach: like the main people that have always been a part of the Justice League is Jon Stewart's Green Lantern. We got Barry Allen, Wonder Woman, Superman, and Batman. Those are the five that you always I mean, Aquaman's interchangeable, the fucking robotics dude, I forget what his fucking name is. But he's he was rever interchangeable, I should say. Joey: Yep. Zach: Yeah, so I don't know what they do with Man of Tomorrow. There's obviously a couple more mystery roles that we haven't been filled, so I think Wonder Woman is introduced in this movie, and that's why we didn't see a Gao Got got w get though Woman Joey: That'd be good. Yeah. Good dog. Zach: Wonder Woman three. And she yeah, it just wouldn't make sense if she was introduced in this movie as Wonder Woman to like, D weren't you in another universe, motherfucker? So yeah. Joey: Yeah. Well technically they did that Zach: Speaking of Joey: with peace maker. Zach: Yeah, yeah, I guess, but completely changed the ending. Like literally completely changed it. 'cause Joey: They did pull them from one to the next and they re edited. Yeah. They so it is possible, but yeah, difficult. Zach: he did I mean he started yeah, it was at a weird time for DC Studios. They were like interchanging. They're in the in the process of switching over to James Gunn as leader of it. So speaking of Man of Tomorrow, Joey: That's gonna say. Zach: Zolo Merduena as Blue Beetle is gonna be in this movie. Are you excited about that? Did you watch Blue Beetle? No, you didn't, huh? Fucking hell. Joey: I have not seen Blue Beetle, no. Is it was it worth it? Is it worth the watch? Zach: dude, it's actually it's really worth the watch. People are annoying on the internet. They're just mad that it's they really incorporated the fact that he's Mexican into it and like Joey: Yeah. Zach: his family and all that, which I get it. What I thought it was great though. We've never seen it before. It's part of his story, dude. It's part of his story. so Joey: It's part

of his story, yeah, exactly. Like chill out. It's part of their story. But from the what I've heard about the movie and what I've seen, I I think that'll be it'll be fun. Zach: I mean they didn't they definitely did not explore the full potential of Blue Beetle. They barely scratched the surface of it in that Joey: yeah. Zach: movie. So I think that's a lot of people's downfall and and like bad rep that it gets for the movie is that they just I mean, Blue Beetle can literally form anything from the blue scare up from his mind into a like a weapon. Joey: Yeah. Zach: And they just didn't use it to his full potential. So it's kind of like a Green Lantern esque, but with the blue Joey: I gonna say it sounds kinda Zach: s It's only like he has this blue scarab on his back. It's fucking disgusting when you see it. But I really liked Joey: I'm excited. I'll check that out. Zach: Zolo in that movie and I thought he's I thought he's like the perfect representation of Blue Beetle. So Joey: That's good. Zach: really, really excited about that. Do you think Clayface could be a man of tomorrow though? Like as a villain or something? Joey: I don't think so. I think he's gonna be like his own standalone film and that's gonna be a little bit 'til we see him in the film movies. Yeah, he'd th that Zach: I think he's gonna be in a Batman film. Yeah. Joey: fits his universe. It's dark, it's morbid. I think that's a good place for him. Yeah. Zach: Maybe Brave in the Bull, but not Superman. Vigilante has been rumored. Joey: Bring back. Zach: Bring V bring Vig back, dude. I would love a little Vigilante. Joey: Bring him back. I loved him. Zach: I love the way that the DCU's forming. I Joey: Yep. Zach: love lanterns, loved Peacemaker, Creature Commando, Superman. Excited for Superman Man of Tomorrow, excited for Clayface, excited for what else do they fucking have, dude? Joey: Clayface could break the trend right now. Well Superman hit. Supergirl flop. Lanterns Zach: Supergirl was fucking fly. Joey: hit. Clayface, where are we at? I mean, honestly, I would want it to flop so that Batman could be peak. Zach: Ha ha ha. Joey: But I don't think Batman can fail. I really don't think they can fuck that. Zach: You know, that yeah, it there really hasn't been a bad Batman film. Joey: No. Zach: So, and especially with James Gunn behind the the wheel, I think it's gonna be very, very, very good. Excited for that. Excited for Doomsday, hundred days away. Joey: Do Zach: lanterns next week. cannot fucking wait. When you when will you Joey: I'm excited. I need give me more. Give me more. Zach: be back on, dude? Joey: Back on the pod soon. Zach: You don't know. Is it two weeks? Not next week, but the week after. Twenty second, I think, right? Or twenty first, somewhere around there. Joey: Probably two weeks. Probably the twenty second. Zach: Yeah, we'll have you back. We'll be talking about we'll we'll hear your thoughts episode five, episode six, when you're back on the podcast. Absolutely. Joey: We'll see episode five and six, yep. And I'll come back in two weeks and it's the finale. Bang. Zach: So can't fucking wait for that. thanks for coming on, dude. Of course. Joey: Of course, thanks for having me. Look forward to seeing everything going forward. It's gonna be great. Rebrand, here we Zach: Yeah, we're we're doing a rebrand and everything. Joey: go. Zach: We'll see. I'm also moving into a new place, so we're gonna have a new backdrop. It's gonna be it's a whole new whole new spiel. I'm definitely gonna do like a total rework of my setup though. Like we're gonna see probably a whole different backdrop for me in the next couple episodes. So or what is it? Come October. So we got a couple episodes like one, two, three, Joey: Come October. So you already got a month out, yeah. Zach: four. Got like four episodes to still to go, so But yeah, slowly all this stuff will just start disappearing and it'll just be nothing. Joey: Just starts boxes. Zach: You know, so but yeah, I I I can't wait for doomsday. A lot of exciting news coming out. we didn't even talk about the DODC thing. I'll do that next time. I had a whole fucking s what the fuck was that? Yeah, what the shit. Joey: It's motorcycle. Very loud one. Zach: I'll save that for the next pod. I have a whole fucking theory about w what I like how the DODC know about the mutant gene. Joey: Yeah. Zach: And everything about that. So I'll just save that for the next podcast. Joey: Look forward to that. Zach: absolutely. Thanks for coming on, dude. Gotta be the end of it. Peace. Joey: Of course. We'll see then.