Full Transcript for Exposing False Gospels In The Church

00:03:53.759 see like, hey, is this one going to be in 71 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:56.639 line with it? And basically my standard was that if 72 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.879 there's a single contradiction, then it's not real, because that's 73 00:03:59.919 --> 00:04:01.960 the standard that you would have to hold God to. 74 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.599 If he contradicts himself, then he's not God. And so 75 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:08.680 as I'm going through Catholicism, like you literally throw a 76 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:12.080 rock at any page of the Catholic Catechism and you're like, oh, 77 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:15.080 contradicts the Bible perfect. So as you go through that 78 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:19.199 very easy to debunk. That things like Islam very easy 79 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:23.480 to debunk. So as going through all of these different things, 80 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.560 eventually I thought if I could just disprove the Bible 81 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:29.120 as a whole, then that would wipe out every single 82 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:32.120 one of these. And that's kind of where that led. 83 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:36.560 To Yeah, it's really shocking. Man. It's one of those 84 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.360 things too that I've found kind of in my journey 85 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.199 is I just feel like our family's been fractured into 86 00:04:41.240 --> 00:04:44.519 literally it's over forty thousand different denominations of Christianity at 87 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:46.600 this particular point is just ridiculous, right. 88 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:50.839 Well, that number, that number is very skewed. In that 89 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:54.079 study that they did, they ranked every denomination based on 90 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:58.480 geographical location as an individual denomination, meaning Roman Catholicism was 91 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:02.319 classified as over four hundred different denominations in that one study, 92 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.199 So that that was like if there's a Baptist church 93 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:11.800 in every city in a state, those were all individual denominations. 94 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:15.680 So the study was very highly skewed. The actual number 95 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:17.160 is going to be less than a thousand. 96 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.040 Yeah, even at that, it's still a major, it's still 97 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:22.399 a lot. But yeah, thank you for correcting me. I'm 98 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:23.959 glad you did that. And the other thing too is, 99 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:26.319 you know we talked a little before hit record. I'm 100 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:28.399 here to have my mind open too, and I'm here 101 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:30.920 to you know, maybe reevaluate some things that I've come 102 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:32.360 to believe in. And as a matter of fact, you know, 103 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.000 part of my journey just to share with you, because 104 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:35.480 you know, we just kind of met each other. But 105 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:38.120 you know, I grew up in the church, So for me, 106 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:41.000 I am now undoing a lot of bad doctrine that 107 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:43.519 I was taught as I go back and I actually 108 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:46.240 developed my own relationship with the Lord and I get 109 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:50.000 into scripture and I actually abandoned my own you know, 110 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.519 desire to care about what Kyle wants versus what the 111 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:55.480 I just want to know what the truth is right now. 112 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.240 With that, I think any human being, you know, needs 113 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.360 to acknowledge there's going to be biases along the way 114 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:01.879 that we need to be aware of, right and we 115 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:04.560 need to call those out when we see them. But ultimately, man, 116 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:05.759 I just want to know what the truth is. And 117 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:07.680 it's so funny when you start to do that, how 118 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:11.319 you you start to strip away. We have this thing called, 119 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:13.199 you know, deconstruction, which I'm not a fan of, but 120 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:16.480 I like to think of it as reconstruction, right, reconstructing 121 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:20.519 things properly versus just just totally deconstructing your faith and 122 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:24.040 destroying your faith and walking away. But ultimately, as I 123 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:25.600 started to do that, I found that there are so 124 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:29.040 many things that are just man made you know, docturnal 125 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.319 issues that have nothing to do with you know, ultimately 126 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.480 the Bible or salvation, and. 127 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:39.079 Those little issues they really do not matter, just because 128 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:43.040 if they don't affect salvation, if they don't alter the 129 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.639 unchanging attributes of God, then they can be ignored. 130 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:51.720 Yeah. Absolutely, I think that's that's really important. So where 131 00:06:51.720 --> 00:06:54.639 do you how do you classify yourself? Now? I don't 132 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:56.759 even like that term, because I think we do that 133 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.279 we have to stuff everything in a box. But if 134 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.720 you were to discribe your belief system to someone, now, 135 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:03.519 I guess where would you put yourself. 136 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:07.399 I classify myself as a Biblical Christian because I didn't 137 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:09.920 read any of the Reformers. I didn't learn any of 138 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:14.199 the history of the Reformation. I learned none

of that. 139 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.360 Whenever I came to every essential doctrine that I hold 140 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.399 to be true, that came exclusively from Scripture and scripture alone. 141 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.600 So everything in regards to that, I just I hold 142 00:07:24.600 --> 00:07:27.519 to that. But in terms of like, if I had 143 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:30.199 to pick a denomination that would be closest to me, 144 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:32.199 I would say a Reformed Baptist. 145 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:36.600 Yeah. So when you've as you've studied some of those 146 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.000 famous Christian names, you know that we have more in 147 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.199 the you know, last couple hundred years or even beyond that. 148 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:45.439 I guess when you go back to Luther and you 149 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.439 go back to Calvin and guys like this, do you 150 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:51.839 see that they've done more harm than good or do 151 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:52.839 you see it the other way around? 152 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.480 Yeah, definitely not more harm. If anything, they did a 153 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.680 wonderful thing because that their goal wasn't to create a 154 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.639 new religion or new denomination. Their goal was just to 155 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:06.120 literally get the Roman Catholic Church to go back to 156 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:09.120 where it was in the fourth century whenever it began, 157 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:12.360 because the originally the Roman Catholic Church was a Christian Church. 158 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.160 It was started as a result of Theodosis and three eighty, 159 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:19.199 making Christianity the universal religion of Rome and the universal 160 00:08:19.360 --> 00:08:22.639 is the Catholic Religion of Rome. So as they're going 161 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:26.720 through the centuries, it started to just drift into apostasy 162 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.759 as it was incorporating all of these different traditions from 163 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:33.039 these pagan religions around it, and as they mixed those in, 164 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:36.639 it caused just that massive alteration to what the Gospel 165 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.240 is and who God is. And so they weren't trying 166 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:42.480 to start a new religion. Their whole thing was like, hey, hey, 167 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:45.480 we want to fix these things from the inside. But 168 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:47.799 the response to that was you're a heretic, I'm going 169 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:49.919 to burn you alive. And they were like, okay, then 170 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.759 I guess I'm going to go that way. 171 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:56.879 Yeah, you've I've seen a few of your videos obviously, 172 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.399 and we've already kind of hit upon it now. But 173 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:01.399 I have also been pretty cat critical of the Catholic Church, 174 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:03.440 and it's been amazing to me too as i've done this. 175 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:06.519 I was not aware of this prior too, but I've 176 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:08.919 had so many people that have kind of outed themselves 177 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:11.559 that are Catholics that just you know, viciously attack me. 178 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.080 And I know you've experienced the same thing when I 179 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:20.679 come after Catholicism because of its clearly quite honestly evil doctrine. 180 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.559 But the thing that surprised me the most is that 181 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:27.559 they will literally tell me that they believe, if they're 182 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:29.879 die hard, that they think that they are the one 183 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:32.000 true church. Have you experienced the same thing? 184 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:34.879 Oh yeah, Every single religion that's fake tries to say 185 00:09:34.919 --> 00:09:37.399 that they're the one true church. The Eastern Orthodox Church 186 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.840 they say we're the one true church. Mormonism says we're 187 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:44.720 the one true church. It's always just a faulty plea 188 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.679 to authority. They're trying to make a claim that Jesus 189 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.720 started our branch or our religion, our denomination, and therefore 190 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:54.759 that's the end of the story. If we can pretend 191 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.759 that Jesus started it by fabricating our history, then that's 192 00:09:57.799 --> 00:09:59.679 what we'll do. That way, we can not have to 193 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.000 defend and anything else, will just pretend that the Bible 194 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:03.039 talks about us. 195 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.480 Yeah, what are some things you know when you started 196 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:08.679 to dig into the Catholic Church that stand out to 197 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.600 you that are very dangerous doctrines that you would want 198 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:14.039 to call attention to for somebody that's maybe just you know, 199 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:15.399 grown up in the Catholic faith. 200 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:17.840 Well, the primary thing is that they teach that you're 201 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:22.039 saved by a merit of grace, meaning that you have 202 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.440 to do certain good works in order to merit an 203 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:28.080 increase of grace for the attainments of eternal life. And 204 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.240 that was the direct quote from the Catholic Catechism that 205 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.799 is paragraphed twenty ten, and in there it literally is 206 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.399 saying to meritis to earn, meaning that you have to 207 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:39.360 work to earn an

increase of grace. So they believe 208 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:41.399 that you get a little amount of grace that kind 209 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.559 of converts you into the Church, and that is God 210 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.720 converting you to Catholicism. But then from there you have 211 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.759 to do works in order to actually earn heaven, earn 212 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.240 eternal life. They just don't like the word earn, even 213 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:57.720 though it's synonymous with the word merit. And I like words, 214 00:10:57.799 --> 00:10:59.919 so I like to use the correct ones as off 215 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:04.120 and as possible. But that's the biggest issue that they 216 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.639 have is they are the modern day. 217 00:11:06.440 --> 00:11:09.799 Pharisees, because the Pharisees were not leaning on God. They 218 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:10.440 were leaning on. 219 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:12.960 Their man made traditions. And how good they can be. 220 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.159 You have the parable that you see in Luke where 221 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.679 the pharisee and the tax collector both go to the temple, 222 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.080 and the Pharisee gets up there and says, God, thank 223 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.639 you for not making me as horrible as all these people, 224 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:26.919 thank you for making me so much better than all 225 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:27.200 of them. 226 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:28.120 They suck. 227 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.679 Frankly, I'm just I'm so much better, and I thank 228 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:31.399 you for doing that. 229 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:32.480 But then you. 230 00:11:32.440 --> 00:11:34.480 See the tax collector, who doesn't even go into the 231 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:36.720 temple who drops on his knee, starts hitting himself in 232 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:38.919 the chest and says, God, please forgive me a sinner. 233 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.039 And Jesus says, which man do you think went home justified? 234 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:45.000 They said that it was the one who humbled himself, 235 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:49.000 the one that understood his state of being helpless and 236 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.120 hopeless against the Holy God. So the Pharisee was just 237 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.120 self righteous. And that's exactly what Roman Catholics are today. 238 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:57.879 They think that they are such good people and that's 239 00:11:57.919 --> 00:11:59.399 why they will earn heaven. 240 00:12:00.519 --> 00:12:04.600 Yeah, it's it's really really dangerous. But there's so many 241 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:08.440 other portions of their key theology too, and their their 242 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:14.519 operational theology that they are just really scary. You know. 243 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:15.919 I just want to dive into some of these and 244 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:18.840 have you expound, because I think they just they don't 245 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:22.600 understand the heresy that they're involved in. Uh. And it's 246 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.559 it's also been so amazing to me having been to 247 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:28.440 Catholic Mass before. Have been to so many different denominations 248 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.039 I can't even count anymore. But the thing that always 249 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:34.759 surprises me about the Catholic Church is how exclusive they are, 250 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.480 yet they grow like crazy. Meanwhile, we have a lot 251 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:42.639 of other denominations that are very inclusive and are dying, 252 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:45.200 and that that's one thing that that's always surprised me. 253 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:47.399 I guess we'll start there. Why do you why do 254 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:48.240 you think that that is? 255 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:53.679 I think people have a tendency to like rituals, and 256 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:56.879 I think that's the biggest thing. People like ritualistic activities 257 00:12:57.039 --> 00:13:01.600 because they are habitual and feel comfortable, and something about 258 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.080 it feels mystical for lack of a better term. And 259 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.240 so in these kinds of cases, these people are quite 260 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:12.679 literally they're they're attracted to the traditional rituals that they're 261 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.960 undergoing in these things. So they see this very over dramatic, 262 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.679 fancy performance of some dude wearing very shiny golden white 263 00:13:20.799 --> 00:13:23.720 robes while he's saying magic words in a different language 264 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:27.600 that's somehow transforming the bread into the literal flush of 265 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:30.519 God so that they can eat him. People are like, WHOA, 266 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:33.840 something's diff this is weird, and then they they fall 267 00:13:33.879 --> 00:13:36.120 head first over it instead of actually examining, like, no, 268 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:39.200 this is demonic, this is straight up not okay. Yeah, 269 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.320 this is them glorifying themselves. Literally, how the Pharisees would 270 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:46.240 glorify themselves by dressing in fancy robes by praying out 271 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.279 loud and public for an audience to hear them. Like 272 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.759 it's it's a really really horrible thing, but people are 273 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.279 attracted to that. It's the same way that people have 274 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:57.000 always been. 275 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.440 Yeah, yeah, it's really interesting. I mean it is a 276 00:14:01.559 --> 00:14:03.919 very pretty ceremonial. Will take it away from them. Their 277 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:05.919 mass is very

beautiful, you know, as far as the 278 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:11.000 way that you know visually and you know the elegance 279 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.120 of the way it's delivered. But yeah, when you take 280 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:14.960 a step back and you actually compare it to like 281 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.519 what scripture has to say, and like here's what we 282 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:19.279 should be doing and what we shouldn't be doing, it's 283 00:14:19.279 --> 00:14:21.120 like literally a laundry list of things that we are 284 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:24.080 not we're told not to do in scripture, right, you know, 285 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.519 like confession, you know, that's that's a huge thing too. 286 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:28.720 So please dive any confession a little bit because that's 287 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:31.840 such a huge core component of like their faith and 288 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:34.240 how destructive and dangerous that is when we actually look 289 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:34.799 at scripture. 290 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.720 Yeah, so in the Book of James, it talks about 291 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:38.639 how we need to confess our sins to one another. 292 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.919 So they take that and they're like, oh, let's change 293 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:44.840 it completely, because the whole purpose in the Bible of 294 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:48.600 it is to hold yourself accountable, and doing so, you're 295 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:51.080 going to allow other people to hold you accountable for 296 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:53.519 the same thing. You're going to confess your sins to 297 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:55.320 your brothers and sisters so that they can hold you 298 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:58.039 accountable and make sure that you're not stumbling anymore. The 299 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:00.600 way that they do it is they word it in 300 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:03.200 the Catholic Catechism that the priest is standing in the 301 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:06.159 position of God to forgive your sins on his behalf, 302 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:09.320 which is why they are going to have you confess 303 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:11.240 all your sins to them and then give you a 304 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.240 list of things that you need to do to atone 305 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:15.679 for your own sins. Most of those are praying in 306 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:18.120 vain repetition, which the Bible says in and of itself 307 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.200 is a sin. So it's like, oh, you sinned, go 308 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.120 send some more. That way God will forgive you of 309 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:23.000 the sins that you've sinned. 310 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.960 And I guess maybe it's that math equation of two 311 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:27.080 negatives equal positive. 312 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.000 I guess it must be, because there's no other way 313 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:30.600 it makes sense. 314 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:34.080 I know, it's just insane. Yeah. The other thing too, 315 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:36.960 is you'd mentioned the sacraments, right, like taking the bread 316 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:39.360 and literally thinking that it's Jesus body. And then also 317 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.960 the thing that really should stand out everybody is the blood. Right, 318 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.080 you're literally drinking Jesus blood. 319 00:15:44.559 --> 00:15:47.159 But in that end of the case, sorry, in that 320 00:15:47.279 --> 00:15:50.480 kind of a case, in most churches, only the priest 321 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:55.600 drinks the blood. So like in most masses across the world, 322 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:59.519 it's exclusively the priest that's doing that. But then whenever 323 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:01.600 all the count we'll say like, well, you must eat 324 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:03.639 his flesh and drink his blood to be saved, it's 325 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:06.759 like almost none of you have ever dranken the blood, 326 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.519 almost none of you have ever had the wine, because 327 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:13.600 it's only what the priest does. So in and of 328 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:16.440 that that's just an internal contradiction. It doesn't make sense. 329 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:19.320 Yeah, so that is that like a is that like 330 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:22.120 an American thing? No, I see that globally. 331 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.399 That that was actually something that you see discussed around 332 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:27.679 the time of the Council of Trent where they were 333 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:31.279 talking about if they should let everyone partake of both 334 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:35.440 elements or if only one, and they decided primarily only one. 335 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:39.519 So I think that during like their first communions, they 336 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:43.600 typically will get the wafer and the wine simultaneously, but 337 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:46.840 in a normal mass, you're only getting a wafer. 338 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.799 Hmm. That's interesting. Yeah, very weird. Everyone I've everyone I've 339 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.639 been to has been both. Oh really, you know, it's funny, 340 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:57.960 you're not even Oh yeah, yeah, everyone everyone that I've 341 00:16:58.000 --> 00:16:59.799 ever been to has been both. But it's it's so funny. 342 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:01.519 You can you're not even supposed to go if you 343 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:05.599 are not actually a member of the church. You're if 344 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:07.960 you're a visitor. You know, you're not supposed to take 345 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:11.480 in partaking communion. So and you know, the first few 346 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.359 times I did, but then as I started to you know, 347 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.319 figure things out for myself and get into

scripture and 348 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.599 actually see what this is actually representative of, I'm like, yeah, 349 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:22.400 I think I'm good. You guys, go right ahead. 350 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.799 But yeah, like I over the weekend, I went to 351 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.559 a full mass Catholic wedding and they said very clearly, 352 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:29.599 if you're not a Catholic, you can still come up 353 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:32.480 for a blessing from the priest, but cross your arms 354 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.240 like this so that we know you're not a Catholic, 355 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.759 because you're not allowed to take this. And so that worked, 356 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:40.079 I mean for me in that position, it was wonderful 357 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.640 where I was kind of functioning as a videographer for 358 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:44.960 their wedding, so I was in the back, didn't even 359 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:46.799 have to get up in line to go awkwardly kneel 360 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:49.079 before a man for their little fancy thing. 361 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:52.440 So it worked out great. Yeah, it's it's it's it's 362 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.319 a weird deal. The other aspect, too, is the deification 363 00:17:55.400 --> 00:17:57.759 of Mary. You know, I know, I know you've spoken 364 00:17:57.799 --> 00:17:59.920 on that too. So please for anybody that's again that's 365 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.039 Catholic that's listening to this or maybe does not know, 366 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:05.200 how does that come, you know, stand in the face 367 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.880 of what we're told in scripture not to do well. 368 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.160 In scripture, we're told specifically in Deuteronomy eighteen not to 369 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.000 make inquiry of the dead, which they will say that 370 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:16.920 praying just means to ask, and that verbiage of making 371 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.559 inquiries quite literally do not ask of the dead. And 372 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:23.359 so Mary died, she did not get bodily assumed it 373 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.880 to heaven. The Catholic Church started teaching that in nineteen 374 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:29.519 fifty that recently, and started saying that if you don't 375 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:31.680 believe that, then you're going to hell. You have to 376 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:34.119 believe that, you have to believe that she is perfect. 377 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:35.680 You have to believe that she was sinless, you have 378 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:37.519 to believe in the immaculate conception, you have to believe 379 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:40.200 in all of these different things to be saved. They 380 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:44.240 elevate her to the points of a goddess in multiple ways, 381 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:46.720 and one of those in the Catholic Catechism, paragraph nine 382 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:50.920 hundred and sixty nine, it says that she is our 383 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:55.640 advocate and our helper and that she brings the gifts 384 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.680 of eternal life. As like they're literally applying traits and 385 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:04.960 titles of the Holy spirits to Mary, and that is absolute, 386 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:09.039 utter blasphemy because Mary was just like everyone else. She 387 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:10.279 was a sinful woman. 388 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:11.200 That's it. 389 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:13.519 She is a very blessed woman, but she was a sinner. 390 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:20.039 There was nothing that was a like you were saying 391 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:23.160 deifying about her, that there was nothing about her that 392 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:26.000 was different from other humans, aside that from she was 393 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:29.240 chosen to be the vessel that brought God into the world. 394 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:32.480 But in Mark ten eighteen, when Jesus says there's no 395 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:36.599 one good but God alone, either he's lying or Mary 396 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:37.200 was a sinner. 397 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:41.799 Yeah right, Yeah, we could have justscrutified Mary if she. 398 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.319 Wasn't exactly, God didn't have to die if there was 399 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:45.119 a perfect person. 400 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:48.599 Yeah, exactly. There you go, go ahead, man, that's free 401 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.279 charge to that. You can have that one. You know. 402 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:55.240 It's just kind of amazing to me too. What are 403 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:56.720 some of the things that you found when you were 404 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.200 digging into Catholicism maybe that we haven't talked about that 405 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:01.079 stand out to you that was like, whoa, this is 406 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:05.480 just his giant red flag. When compared to scripture, the papacy. 407 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.440 Papacy would be huge during a Vatican it's either Vatican 408 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:11.160 one or Vatican two. I think is Vatican one in 409 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:14.079 the eighteen hundreds. But they declared that if you deny 410 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.359 the succession of the pope, if you deny that Peter 411 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:20.599 was the first pope, then you cannot be saved. It's 412 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:22.319 like another one of those things where they just add 413 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:25.000 this massive list of like you need to accomplish all 414 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:27.279 of these things in order to go to heaven. And 415 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.160 then ultimately they also say like, but you can't actually 416 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:32.799 know that you can go to heaven. So both of 417 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:36.160 those I think papacy and they call it the sin 418

00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:39.559 of presumption, where if you presume that you're going to heaven, 419 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:43.640 that is a sin. I would argue that with one 420 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:46.119 John five thirteen, I've written these things to you who 421 00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:47.599 believe in the name of the Son of God, so 422 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:51.759 that you may know that you have eternal life. 423 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.680 Yeah, exactly. Pretty pretty cut and dry, right, it really is. 424 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:58.160 But they tried to change everything, and it's like the 425 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:00.759 biggest thing is like if a Catholic reads the Bible, 426 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:03.000 then nine out of ten times they become a Christian. 427 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.200 Yeah. Yeah, And that's so crazy to hear that, because 428 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:08.920 someone's going to hear that it's Catholic and just be 429 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.200 a ghast, Right, I'm not a Christian, And it's like, yeah, unfortunately, 430 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:16.480 no you're not. You know, I'm like, I firmly believe 431 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:21.319 though that, like you can. There's some very well intended 432 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.000 just like there isn't any I think any religion practically, right, 433 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:27.759 there's some well intended, quote good people, but ultimately, at 434 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:29.640 the end of the day, you know, it's a very 435 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:34.400 dangerous road because there's so many heretical portions of doctrine 436 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:37.480 that are just cradle to grave taught that are completely 437 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.839 designed to pull you away from the biblical teaching that 438 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.000 we have clearly in scripture written in front of us, 439 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:48.720 and it's just it's a very dangerous road to go down. 440 00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:51.279 And if you're listening to this in you're Catholic and 441 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:54.960 you are really offended. Right now, I want you to 442 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:57.960 again ask yourself why you're offended. Are you offended because 443 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:00.680 it's you know, these are things that you were taught, 444 00:22:00.759 --> 00:22:03.279 or are you offended because these are things that you've 445 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:05.319 gone in You've looked at scripture and you've realized, No, 446 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:08.640 the scripture absolutely defends what I have to say. Because 447 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.039 if you've really done that and you've had eyes opened, 448 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:13.599 trust me, you're not going to find that that's the case. 449 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.240 So when you started digging into the history of Catholicism, 450 00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:18.839 I don't know how far back you go or what 451 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:20.680 your history with that is. I mean, it sounds like 452 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:24.640 you're a pretty thorough analytical guy. When did you When 453 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:27.200 do you see the trains start coming off the tracks 454 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:29.599 in the early Church for the formation of everything. 455 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.519 I think that the biggest turning point would be whenever 456 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:36.240 the papacy was actually invented. So Gregory the Great was 457 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.279 the first actual pope of Catholicism. Before that, Rome had 458 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:42.799 a bishop, but the very first bishop was Linus, not 459 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:48.640 Peter so tricky, but whenever he came into being, he 460 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:53.119 quite literally said that anyone who is called or wishes 461 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:55.559 to be so called, the Universal Bishop is, in his 462 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:58.440 prime a forerunner of Antichrist. And he said that in 463 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:02.839 I believe five ninety five. Then about one hundred to 464 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:05.319 two hundred years later I think his name was Pope Stephen, 465 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:07.119 but don't quote me on that one, but he was 466 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.000 the first one to try to say that Matthew sixteen 467 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:10.759 eighteen was in reference the papacy. 468 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:12.960 The Catholic Church vehemently said. 469 00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:16.880 No, that's that's so stupid that we couldn't possibly pretend 470 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:20.240 that's what it means. And then go forward to Vatican 471 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:22.119 One in the eighteen hundreds when they said, this is 472 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.480 definitively what it means, and if you deny that, you're 473 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:27.519 going to hell. So I think that was the biggest 474 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.400 turning point is at the moment of the papacy is 475 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:32.440 when every thing's really started to get corrupted because they 476 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:37.200 started to go for power instead of giving power to God. 477 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:41.799 Yeah, what's how do you view Constantine when you look 478 00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:44.039 at history through all this and the influence that he 479 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:46.400 had on the early Church, do you view him positively 480 00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:48.119 or negatively or neutral. 481 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:53.799 Pretty positively because he ended the reign of destruction by Diocletian. 482 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:56.480 Because Diocletian, like a lot of people say that like Nero, 483 00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:58.240 might have been the beast of revelation. 484 00:23:58.359 --> 00:23:59.160 I would deny that. 485 00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:02.200 I think that Diaclete meets the bill far far better 486 00:24:02.240 -->

00:24:05.799 than Nero ever could. But he was massacarring Christians left 487 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.599 and right. He was burning bibles, he was burning down churches. 488 00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:13.079 He was the most insatiable, bloodthirsty persecutor of the Christian 489 00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:15.960 Church in all of history that I'm aware of, as 490 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:20.920 just absolutely heinous. So whenever constantin comes in, he legalized Christianity. 491 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.480 He didn't start anything. He didn't have anything to do 492 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.400 with the construction of the Bible anything like that. Rather, 493 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:29.200 he simply said, this is legal now. And he did 494 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:31.200 that as a result of having a dream where he 495 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:35.480 saw the uh, gosh, what is it, the chiro. He 496 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:38.079 saw a symbol of that in a dream, and he 497 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:40.200 put that onto all of these shields of his men, 498 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.640 and they won the battle. And he said, like, okay, 499 00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:45.680 this means that we need to legalize Christianity. Because whenever 500 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:47.599 the Council of Nicea comes around, which a lot of 501 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:50.000 people tried to attribute to him. We don't even know 502 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:53.039 if he was present there, but he definitely like tried 503 00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:56.319 to organize some fashion of it. But in that they 504 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.839 were going over the Aryan controversy and when we should 505 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:03.720 sell Easter. They didn't touch the canon, they didn't touch scripture, 506 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:07.000 they didn't go over any aspect of any other detail 507 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:11.519 aside from this guy claiming that Jesus was created by God. 508 00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:14.480 And then the church that was arguing against him said, no, 509 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.279 Jesus is God. He is the eternal son of God. 510 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:20.680 You cannot try to change the Bible. So they were 511 00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:24.400 arguing from scripture to show like, no, no, no, this 512 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:28.039 is the Bible teaches plainly and simply that Jesus is God. 513 00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:30.920 You cannot deny it. So he was sentenced to be 514 00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:34.480 banished as a heretic and so constantine. 515 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:34.960 In his life. 516 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:39.000 He didn't do much for the church in a negative 517 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.880 way at all. He simply legalized it. And whether or 518 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:46.680 not he actually became a Christian is historically unclear. He 519 00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:51.319 was baptized on his deathbed, and we don't know if 520 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:54.599 he was even conscious during that baptism, so we don't 521 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.920 know if he actually had a conversion anything like that, 522 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:00.799 because as far as history would indicate, it would be 523 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.279 more likely that he was a friend of Christians. But 524 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.440 he himself never became a Christian. Hopefully he did. 525 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:10.960 Yeah, but yeah, he's very much mixed bag. And when 526 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:13.599 you look at his the history of him and the 527 00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:17.119 things that he did and did not do. I believe, 528 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.039 if my history is correct when I was looking into it, 529 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.519 his dad was, like I believe, a Roman general, so 530 00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:23.319 he was kind of raised in the court, you know, 531 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:26.759 it was very savvy to how things worked, and it 532 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.599 just it seems to me, anyway, this is my two cents, 533 00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.200 but seems to me that he really realized, hey all, 534 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.799 my predecessors have tried to stamp you guys out, you know, 535 00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:37.599 and murder was the order of the day. You know, 536 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:42.400 the first few popes quote unquote were actually martyred. And 537 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.200 then he kind of changed the game, right, it was 538 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.240 legalizing everything, kind of let things off the hook. And 539 00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:50.200 then it seems to me anyway, that's when the corruption 540 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.480 in the church kind of the foundation point. And I 541 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:55.039 think we went along for some time before things got worse. 542 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.400 But that's just kind of like my quick two cents 543 00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:59.200 worth of what I've kind of found through history. But 544 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.480 it's a fascinating I'm And it's harder and harder to 545 00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:04.319 the further back you go because things, you know, if 546 00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.759 with anything right, it's harder to dig into history and 547 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.839 actually find out exactly what happened when we go back 548 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.799 further and further. But uh, definitely fascinating. But you had 549 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:16.440 mentioned Matthew sixteen is second Ago and that whole passage 550 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:18.279 there for folks that are not aware of it. I 551 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.559 wanted to make sure I was right, which I was. 552 00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:22.759 Were you hit on what I thought you were hitting on? 553 00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.319 It's the whole exchange during Cesarea Philippi, right, which is 554 00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.559 kind of in my circles anyway, become more famous now 555

00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:35.640 because the realm that I kind of typically delve into is, 556 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.839 you know, more of this understanding the supernatural nature of 557 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.160 the Bible, right, And this is a huge cog in 558 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.559 that wheel for us. But what is your interpretation of 559 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:46.240 what is happening there in Matthew sixteen. 560 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.640 That is Jesus revealing plainly that he is the Messiah, 561 00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.880 and so like he's asking them and says like, hey, 562 00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:55.759 who do you guys think the Messiah is and they're saying, like, oh, well, 563 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.559 maybe it's John the Baptist. And then he says, who 564 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.160 you say to I am? And then Peter says, you 565 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.599 are the Christ, the son of the Living God. And 566 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:06.880 then Jesus's response was that flesh and blood didn't reveal 567 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:09.400 this to you, but my father did. So it was 568 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:12.359 that spiritual revelation that God gave him. God gave him 569 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.960 that faith. God gave him that gift of knowing that, 570 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:19.279 and so he declared it. And that declaration that faith 571 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:21.000 was the foundation. 572 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:21.359 Of the church. 573 00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:25.599 Is that's what everything is built upon, is the faith 574 00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:28.839 in Christ. That's why right there, Because Catholics will say 575 00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.440 like that Peter's name means rock, and therefore on this 576 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:33.240 rock I will build my church means on Peter, I 577 00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.680 will build my church. But the way it's recorded is 578 00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.640 very specifically done in Greek, even though they were most 579 00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:42.839 likely speaking Aramaic. It's recorded in a very specific way 580 00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.359 through the divine providence of God, so that we would 581 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:47.720 see the distinction in the phrasing. So he says that 582 00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:51.039 you are Petros, but on this Petra I would build 583 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.039 my church. Petra is a word in scripture that is 584 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:59.279 only ever used as a literal rock or Jesus himself, 585 00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:01.920 and so have all throughout the Psalms. Whenever it talks 586 00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:05.160 about that there is only one rock or in Isaiah 587 00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:08.519 there is only one rock and only one Savior, it 588 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.519 is consistently referencing that the Messiah is the rock. And 589 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.640 so whenever he says that upon this rock, Jesus would 590 00:29:15.640

--> 00:29:18.480 be pointing at himself saying, upon this rock I would 591 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.039 build my church. It's upon that faith in him that 592 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:23.640 he is building his church, not building it on a 593 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.720 guy who five verses later he calls Satan and a 594 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.480 couple of chapters later denies that he was even God. 595 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:34.519 Yeah, it's a really interesting exchange too, because again for me, 596 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:37.200 and this is where I'll get your take on this 597 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.960 here a second, But there's an interesting correlation because I 598 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.799 personally believe, and a good argument can be made. I 599 00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:45.480 can't say for certain, but a good argument can be 600 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.359 made for it. That where Satan takes him up to 601 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:50.000 a high mountain and shows him all the kingdoms of 602 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.799 the earth and does the whole offer, and that's where 603 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:56.240 he says, get behind me, Satan. I believe personally it 604 00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.599 was at that same location, So I think you see 605 00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:02.119 a correlation that's occurring there. Interesting. I haven't looked into that, 606 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.720 but that would be pretty darn cool. Yeah, that kind 607 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.519 of leads me to my next point or my next thing. 608 00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:08.559 I want to ask you, just in your journey, what 609 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.640 have you found? Have you have you found or dug 610 00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.640 into the significance of this event taking place at Cesria Philippi, 611 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.599 Mount Hermone area and all that? What have you found 612 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.039 there in regards to what rephraised the question as far 613 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:25.400 as like, there's a typical teaching nowadays when we go 614 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.200 back to Genesis six, there's a teaching that's basically there's 615 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.119 kind of two different main teachings. There is actually sons 616 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.960 of God mating with daughters of men right and producing 617 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.079 offspring letter the Nephlum, which is what it says in scripture, 618 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:42.920 and then there are you know, that event ultimately ties 619 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:47.400 back into the events of Cesarea Philippi because it was 620 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:49.960 on Mount Hermone right there that allegedly, when you go 621 00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.920 into some of the extra biblical texts like First Enoch 622 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.400 or even the Book of Jubilees, actually links those two 623 00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.079 events together at that particular place, which is where the 624 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.920 transfiguration occurs, and it's almost like even without those extra 625 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:05.960 biblical text you can kind of piece together based on 626 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.759 what I said to you a second ago, you can 627 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.720 tie the two together as kind of like Satan's home turf. 628 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.799 And I really think that going there, and again my 629 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:21.920 opinion was kind of Jesus's way of egging on Satan 630 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:24.799 to try to, you know, kill him, I think he 631 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:26.839 still needed permission. And that was something interesting that I 632 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:28.400 want to come to too that I saw a video 633 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.759 you do that I'd never pieced together before. But we'll 634 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:32.039 go there here in a second. But I just want 635 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.279 to see if you've ever dug into any of that 636 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.599 side of the backstory or what your thoughts were. I 637 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.880 definitely haven't know, So that's that's interesting. 638 00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:43.119 Oh but I've never looked into Yeah, but yeah, I 639 00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:47.359 haven't looked into any kind of significance between Satan and 640 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.880 those mountains. There's other stuff where you see like in 641 00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.359 Psalm one thirty three, it talks about the blessing is 642 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.839 coming from there for eternal life forevermore, and it's talking 643 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:02.200 about it's like basically the same mountain that Abraham was 644 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.519 going to sacrifice Isaac on as the exact same one 645 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.319 that Jesus was sacrificed on, and like it continues in 646 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:11.160 different sequences where you see different mountains having different significance. 647 00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:13.720 But I've never looked into that one. 648 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.039 So that's definitely the gree Hawk deal. Yeah, we're going 649 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:18.680 to talk while we're done here today, if you've got time. 650 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.240 So yeah, it's really cool man. One of the things 651 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:22.519 that you just mentioned there too, And I want to 652 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:24.759 come back to what the video that you would put 653 00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:29.000 together talking about Jesus crucifixion and really leading up to 654 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:30.920 Jesus crucifici at the Last Supper. So I'll come back 655 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:32.039 to that here in a second, because I thought it 656 00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:33.720 was a really cool revelation on your part. I'd never 657 00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:38.599 heard before. But there again, just you know,

in a 658 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:40.799 short time we've talked and just getting a rid of you, 659 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:42.720 you seem like a very analytical guy, and you have 660 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:44.599 to see this, I would think too, and if you don't, 661 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.960 then just tell me I'm crazy and I'm wrong. It's 662 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:53.359 so cool to start to find and uncover the correlative 663 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:56.519 things because God kind of has a cadence. He kind 664 00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:59.960 of has a cadence and a duplicate. He runs duplicate 665 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:01.559 in places. Have you found the same thing as you've 666 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:03.839 dug more into things like he kind of has this 667 00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:08.160 beautiful tapestry that he weaves in kind of repeating patterns. 668 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:09.519 I guess is really what I'm getting out, And we 669 00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:10.200 found the same thing. 670 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.680 Well, yeah, throughout the entire Bible, like everything in the 671 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.400 Old Testament is a foreshadow of Jesus. So it's yeah, 672 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:17.680 so definitely, yes. 673 00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.920 Yeah, for sure. Do you find that the lack of 674 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:23.759 understanding of the Old Testament is really plaguing us today 675 00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.480 now as a church? Do you find. 676 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.920 Yeah, the amount of people that I've come in contact 677 00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:31.119 with online who say something like, oh no, we're not 678 00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.319 an Old Testament church, It's just like, then you're not 679 00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:33.799 a church. 680 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:35.599 It's like that. 681 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.640 Jesus is the God that freed the people out of 682 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.759 Egypt according to Judu one five. So if you're not 683 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.000 believing the words of Jesus spoken before the incarnation, you're, 684 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.720 for lack of a better term, an idiot. Like if 685 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.519 people deny that and say like, oh no, we're not 686 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:53.440 under the law, it's like that doesn't matter. The law 687 00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:55.599 is still something that we hold to, not for salvation, 688 00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.440 but because God commanded it, so we still need to 689 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.759 abide by that. We're still not so. But like the 690 00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:02.319 people whould say that we're not held by the law. 691 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.599 It's like, do you think that murder is wrong? Like yeah, 692 00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.680 it's like, then you're holding to the law, like you're 693 00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:09.440 not doing it for the sake of being saved, You're 694 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.239 doing it because God said that's a no no. But yeah, 695 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:14.239 So I think the people who ignore the Old Testament, 696 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.280 they're literally ignoring two thirds of God's revelation to us. 697 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:19.639 Amen. Yeah, the same thing with the law kind of 698 00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.119 happens with works. Works in the adherence to the law 699 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.800 and works are a natural byproduct to be living in 700 00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:31.119 growing faith. You know, you can't you cannot grow as 701 00:34:31.119 --> 00:34:34.079 a Christian. You can't grow closer and more like Christ 702 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.119 in your journey. You're going to naturally have those two 703 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.039 things that that it's it's you can't separate the two. 704 00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.480 They're not there's no way to do that. It's going 705 00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:44.840 to be a natural byproduct of the two. But people 706 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.360 get so based on those things. 707 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:50.800 Yeah, I strive to follow the law. I strive to 708 00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:54.039 do I fail every single day because I'm a horrible, heinous, 709 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:58.039 sinful human being. But I strive to obey God. And 710 00:34:58.079 --> 00:34:59.599 I don't do it because I'm like, oh, I'm gonna 711 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.880 get brown points. I do it because God died because 712 00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.559 I've done these things. If I didn't do these things, 713 00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:07.599 then God would have no reason to have died. But 714 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.239 I feel so horribly guilty every time that I do 715 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.559 one of these horrible things that I try not to 716 00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:15.480 do them. But again, it's not so that I can 717 00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:18.480 be saved. It's because I have been saved eternally, and 718 00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:20.599 I want to make sure that I am living my 719 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.440 life more pleasing to God. 720 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.760 Amen, Well said Brother Well said, Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Man, 721 00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.480 there's there's it's so funny too, Like just to tip kids, 722 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:31.920 When you go into your New Testament and it has 723 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.239 quotation marks around it, more than likely they're quoting the 724 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.280 Old Testament. And there's a lot of quotation marks in 725 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.559 the New Testament, So just throwing that out there for you. 726 00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.280 Jesus especially was a fan of quotation marks. He referenced 727 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.880 a whole lot of Old Testament stuff because hey, God 728 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.000 already made the perfect law. Why would I deviate from it? 729 00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:49.679

When I'm trying to get you guys to follow it, 730 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.800 you know, and get your hearts in line with it. 731 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.039 It's not necessarily all the laws. It's your heart that 732 00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:56.559 he's trying to get fixed. But you know, one of 733 00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.519 the things that, like I said, I wanted to come 734 00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:01.559 back to this was awesome that you did, and I 735 00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:03.079 want you to share and I don't want to steal 736 00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:04.599 your thunder here, So I'm gonna try to set you 737 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:06.159 up as best I can to be able to share it. 738 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.840 But the revealing of what Jesus was doing with Judas 739 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:13.519 at the Last Supper, So if that cues you up enough, 740 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:15.800 I'll let you kind of reveal that for those of 741 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:17.440 who have maybe not seen this before. 742 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:21.760 Yeah, so, uh, whenever Jesus is passing the bread to 743 00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:23.960 the one who will betray him, which by the way, 744 00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:25.800 this is at the point of the Last Supper, which 745 00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:28.760 means that Judas would have taken the Eucharist in the 746 00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.519 Catholic context, So just throwing that out there, which so 747 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:36.039 he must have been saved, but he uh, it was 748 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.719 giving him that. That was the sign where Jesus said, 749 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:40.880 the one who I passed this bread is the one 750 00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:43.360 who will betray me. Once he passes it to him, 751 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:47.159 he says do what you need to do, but do 752 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.880 it quickly. But right there he's not talking to Judas. 753 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.719 That's one of the biggest creepy things because right there 754 00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.960 it says that Satan entered him. So right there he's 755 00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:01.920 talking to Satan saying go because like you have a 756 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.800 in the book of Job, for example, where Job is 757 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:10.119 obsessively watching or sorry, Satan is obsessively watching Job, just 758 00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:13.280 constantly every aspect of his life. He will not stop 759 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.960 obsessing over this guy. So whenever you see him go 760 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.440 to the Heavenly Council and you see him talking to God, 761 00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.320 people will say like, oh, well, God pointed out Job. 762 00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:23.920 God literally like gave. 763 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:24.440 Him the target. 764 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:27.639 He's like, no, no, God knew who he was obsessed with. 765 00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.239 So he says, what are you been doing. I've just 766 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.360 been wandering around, going to and fro. He's like, have 767 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:35.679 you noticed Job. He's just like yeah, and he only 768 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:37.599 loves you because of this, this, this, and he like 769 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.480 lists off every aspect of his life. It's just like, yep, 770 00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:43.920 God was showing that he's been obsessively watching this one dude. 771 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:46.880 And then that's the whole play out. But in that event, 772 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:50.599 whenever Satan goes down and he torments Job in all 773 00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.719 these different ways of killing his family, of killing his servants, 774 00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.840 of removing his livestock. He had to get permission first 775 00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:00.239 from God. And so the same thing parallels throughout the 776 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.079 entire Bible that Satan can only act when God allows 777 00:38:04.159 --> 00:38:06.039 him to do it. And so that's one of the 778 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:07.840 big things we see in the Book of Job that 779 00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:12.480 humans are tested, but they're not tested or tempted by God. 780 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:17.199 But God allows Satan or other demons to interact in 781 00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.719 ways where he can tamper with us and want to 782 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:24.920 basically test us, to put us in positions to see 783 00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:26.679 if we're actually going to be loyal to God, just 784 00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:27.119 like Job. 785 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.559 Yeah, that was such a cool thing. When I watched that, 786 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.519 I was like, oh, this is such a good catch, 787 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.320 And it was so funny because I immediately went back 788 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:39.039 to the temptation right because it makes so much sense 789 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.960 because he's ultimately trying to get Christ to do the deed, 790 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.920 you know, whatever the been, the need throw yourself off 791 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.800 the mountain, you know, whatever the case, or off the temple, 792 00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.679 you know, whatever the case would be. He's trying to 793 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.199 get him to do these things, meaning I can't do 794 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.079 anything on my own because I don't have permission, and 795 00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.639 it was instantly like the two things clicked together, and 796 00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.679 I was like, oh, that's such a good catch. So yeah, 797 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:04.239 I wanted to I wanted to let you share that 798 00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.639 because I thought that was really cool. But I want 799 00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.400 to move on to some other areas that I think 800 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:13.039 are hot button topics today, and I

want to spend 801 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.039 some time really quick on some of these because I'm 802 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:18.039 seeing them and I want to get your take if 803 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.760 you're seeing the same thing that I am. But annihilationism 804 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.880 seems to be really taking off. And I don't know 805 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.320 if it was because of Kirk Cameron coming out or 806 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:27.840 whatever the case is, but it just seems to be 807 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:31.760 one more of these things that is really taking root, 808 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:36.519 and it to me seems like it's just an easy 809 00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.320 way out and we want to try to soften everything 810 00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:41.559 as much as possible. So I want to give you 811 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.199 the floor there and get your take on that, because 812 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.719 my take, you're not here today to hear my take. 813 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.360 We're here to day to hear yours, so I want 814 00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:48.280 to get your take on that. 815 00:39:48.679 --> 00:39:50.599 I'm also okay with hearing your takes on it, but 816 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.559 I think that annihilationism is just a lot more appeasing 817 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:58.559 for people where they the concept that our sin is 818 00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.480 so serious in the eyes of a whole God that 819 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.159 is going to damn us to an eternity of the 820 00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:05.800 worst kind of pain torment that we could ever possibly 821 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.719 fathom or imagine. In that torment being inflicted by God 822 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:12.400 to us is something that a lot of people panic about. 823 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:13.480 They don't like it. 824 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.639 They think that like, oh, well, if God was all loving, 825 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.280 then he wouldn't do that, And so I think that 826 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:23.079 kind of a mindset stands off into people thinking like, oh, well, 827 00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.199 in this view, they're only tortured for a little bit 828 00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:31.239 and then they disappear, and then that's it's their souls 829 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:36.199 just are gone, they don't exist, and it seems more appealing. 830 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.800 But for like an atheist, for example, that's basically already 831 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:42.599 what they think the world's going to be, that you 832 00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:47.119 just stop existing. So it's I don't think it's biblically accurate. 833 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.639 I don't think that it's biblically supported, but I do 834 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:55.320 understand the kind of emotional viewpoint to want it to 835 00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:57.880 be true, because there's a lot of cases where it's 836 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.519

like it does sound appealing from an emotional basis, but 837 00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.760 I'm minorly autistic. I don't feel emotions, so I have no. 838 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:10.519 Care for it. But yeah, the way the Bible talks about. 839 00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:13.000 It is that it is eternal hell, and it talks 840 00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:17.440 about humans and demons and satan alike being tormented forever 841 00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:20.440 and ever, and I just it is impossible to actually 842 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.079 escape that kind of terminology. 843 00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:27.239 Yeah. Yeah, I've done a show on it not too 844 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.840 terribly long ago, and it was really amazing to me. 845 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.599 And maybe because of this, my view is skewed a 846 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:37.079 little bit, but it really drew a lot of It 847 00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.840 drew a lot of people out of the weeds that 848 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.039 were very upset by that idea that God would actually 849 00:41:43.079 --> 00:41:46.639 like a biblical, traditional teaching of God will. Unfortunately, we 850 00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:48.880 are going to be punished for eternity. I'm sorry. But 851 00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:51.480 when you go look at the language of it, because 852 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:53.119 they love to get the Greek out and they mangle 853 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:55.280 the Greek to no end, and you know, try to 854 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.840 use the Greek and improper ways and all kinds of 855 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.079 stuff in order to make the idea of annihilationism fit. 856 00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.039 And for anyone who's still like scratching their head a 857 00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:06.760 little bit, annihilationism just quickly put is the concept that 858 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.199 we aren't going to be tormented for all eternity. And 859 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.360 there's kind of two variations of it. Either we're going 860 00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.760 to be blipped into non existence the minute we're gone 861 00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:19.159 and dead, or there's a partial annihilationism, which is you're 862 00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:21.440 going to be tormented for a set amount of time. 863 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:23.599 And I've heard varying degrees on this too, could be 864 00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:25.599 depending on how bad you were while you were here 865 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.480 or whatever God determines the time and then you're going 866 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.840 to be blipped into non existence, but definitely goes against 867 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:36.079 what for me I can read clearly in scripture. And 868 00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:38.000 I was looking at it through the lens of you know, 869 00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:41.559 again that reconstruction thing, you know we had kind of 870 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.599 talked about was I think we talked about that maybe 871 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:48.320 a little bit before we hit record, but you know, 872 00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:51.960 just looking through scripture anew right to try to understand 873 00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:54.599 what the truth of scripture is. And I still came 874 00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:56.639 away with the idea of, well, this is one I 875 00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:00.000 wasn't taught wrong on, Like it sure seems pretty clear 876 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:01.480 to me when you look at all the very different 877 00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:04.320 parts of Scripture that you know, for someone who does 878 00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:08.559 not accept Christ and dies Accordingly, it's going to be 879 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:09.960 in a long eternity and torment. 880 00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.599 So absolutely, because the biggest thing with that is people 881 00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.559 really try to pretend that sin is not as serious 882 00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.360 as it is. But sin is so serious that like 883 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:21.400 you tell a single lie and God thinks that you 884 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:26.760 have eternally earned torture like that, we just we try 885 00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:28.519 to pass it off like it's just oh, no, we 886 00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.519 make mistakes. It's like they're not mistakes. You are actively 887 00:43:31.639 --> 00:43:35.000 violating God's law as a subconscious rebellion against him, to 888 00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.199 declare that you naturally hate him. It's like that is 889 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.840 what sin is. It's not you messed up, you made 890 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:43.880 a mistake. It's like, no, you have done something that 891 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:48.079 is expressing that you naturally hate God. It is so 892 00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:52.000 heinously evil to do any level of sin. So like 893 00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:53.760 when people say like all sin is the same, it 894 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:56.360 is not all the same. All sin takes you to hell. 895 00:43:56.800 --> 00:44:00.920 But the Bible gives a very very high list of like, hey, 896 00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:03.599 this sin is so bad that you need to be 897 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.400 put to death for it immediately on earth. Like if 898 00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.000 you go and you like if you're a mass killer, 899 00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:13.360 there's no court, there's no you wait along you're cut 900 00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.079 red hand, it's slaughtering people. You're immediately dying. 901 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.199 That's right, Do not collect two hundred dollars. 902 00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.400 Yeah, because it's so bad to the point that it's 903 00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:25.519 God saying you need to not only get hell, but 904 00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.199 you need to die now. Like you do not get 905 00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:30.679 a second more of air on this earth, You do 906 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:32.920 not get any more of My

gifts of life. You 907 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.199 have violated it to a point that you do not 908 00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:39.760 deserve to live. And so it people try to pretend 909 00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:43.920 that there's like different or that there's no distinction between 910 00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.239 them in regards to how seriously God views them, because 911 00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:49.719 they all do earn us hell. So like there's no 912 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.079 mortal sins and venial sins, but there are different variants 913 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.320 of punishments that God says need to happen on earth. 914 00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:58.760 Yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah. That was one thing that 915 00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:00.679 I was taught as well, was oh, all sin is 916 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:02.400 equal in the eyes of the Lord. I'm like, well, 917 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.320 that's not a That's another one where I'm like, no, 918 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.760 strike again, that's not true. We can clearly see that 919 00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:09.719 in God's law, Like you just highlighted beautifully right, And 920 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:11.679 I'm like, listen, if you tell a lie. They ain't 921 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:13.199 the same deal as if I go and I, you know, 922 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:16.000 murder you, right, that's that's you know, apples and hand 923 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.880 grenades and like they're and God, God doesn't treat them 924 00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:19.679 the same way. Man. 925 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:22.800 But in James two it does say that if you 926 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.480 have sinned in one area of the law, then you 927 00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:28.960 have violated all of it. So again, all sin leads 928 00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:31.920 you to hell. Even the smallest sin of you stealing 929 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:34.840 a penny out of someone's purse or taking a pen 930 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.400 off of someone's desk, that is still enough to damn 931 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:43.519 you eternally to hell. Yeah, But those ones like stealing, 932 00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:45.639 for example, the Old Testament says that you need to 933 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.480 pay back double the value. Murder someone, you need your 934 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:51.039 head cut off. 935 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.480 That's right, yeah, exactly. There is again, do not pass go, 936 00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.599 do not collect two hundred dollars. I like to tell 937 00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:59.559 everybody you know that, yes, no, sin is not equal 938 00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:01.880 in the eyes the Lord. There are different consequences for 939 00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.920 different sin. However, it does do one thing which really 940 00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:07.480 what you just testify too, and this does too, is 941 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.639 it comes back to the heart. Right, So many things 942 00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:12.480 in scripture always come back to the heart. And what 943 00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.719 it does do is it separates you from proper relationship 944 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:17.400 with God. I think that's another thing we say too, 945 00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.239 is like, well, you know, unfortunately sin separates you from 946 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.239 God's love. No, that's not possible. What it does do 947 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:26.760 is it separates you from proper relationship with God. And 948 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.599 then as that continues to happen and your heart continues 949 00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.760 to get more and more dark and hardened, that's going 950 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.119 to keep happening. And it's like, you know, you're going 951 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.840 further and further down into the pit, and sometimes you 952 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.159 get so far down that getting out is really hard 953 00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:43.480 to do. So yeah, it's kind of a fascinating thing. 954 00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.440 All right, are you ready for the next hot button 955 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:48.159 topic of the day? By the way, I guess before 956 00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:51.800 we go there, are you finding that annihilationism? Are you 957 00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:53.000 hearing more and more of this? 958 00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.119 You're hearing more, But I think it's just because it's trendy, 959 00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.199 So I think a lot more people are talking about it. 960 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.280 I do think that the Kirk Cameron thing kind of 961 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:03.239 spiked it though, yeah, because I mean he's kind of 962 00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:05.159 been a catalyst for a lot more than we think, 963 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:09.400 because like because he was in the left behind movies 964 00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:12.000 where everyone that's where most people learned about the rapture 965 00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.280 doesn't exist in the Bible, but most people were like. 966 00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:15.159 Oh crazy. 967 00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.800 And then later in his actual life he becomes a 968 00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.000 post millennial and says, Nope, there's no rapture and there's 969 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.920 no end time tribulation. It's like, okay, so you went 970 00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:30.519 a little too far. But and then now once again 971 00:47:30.599 --> 00:47:33.440 he's gone just a little too far. But again, they're 972 00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.239 all non essential issues. Kirk camer is definitely a Christian, 973 00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:39.760 but because of his fame, popularity, and his relation to 974 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.840 things like this and to rake comfort, that is just 975 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:46.079 kind of putting him in the position where people hear 976 00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.039 him and then they want to talk about the same 977

00:47:48.079 --> 00:47:49.519 things that he's talking about. 978 00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:51.519 Yeah. Yeah, it's just kind of interesting. I wanted to 979 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.559 ask that of you, just you know, doing what you're 980 00:47:53.559 --> 00:47:55.159 doing and see if you'd seen the same thing I have. 981 00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:57.159 It was it was really amazing when I when I 982 00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.559 started to see the comments roll in, how that really 983 00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:03.320 seemed to irritate people to death that you know, I 984 00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.599 was not FOREI annihilationism. But anyway, we move on. So 985 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.079 you brought it up. It's a perfect segue. Let's talk 986 00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:15.119 about eschatology. Man, I gotta tell you, I don't know 987 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.679 if there's any which is so stupid really at the 988 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.519 end of the day, but I don't know that there 989 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:23.480 is any topic in our faith that will make people 990 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:27.079 angrier or divide people more than the idea of eschatology. 991 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:28.639 Do you agree with that or do you think there's 992 00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:29.320 other things? 993 00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.840 Yeah, within the confines of actual Christians, I would say that, 994 00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:38.480 and infant baptism, oh yeah, yeah, baptism worse two yeah yeah. 995 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:42.000 So what as you've got in here and you started 996 00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.480 looking at things, let's talk about this, right, because I 997 00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:49.079 cut my teeth, you know, when Left Behind came out. 998 00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:52.079 I was probably in my teens, maybe really twenties, somewhere 999 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.440 in that neighborhood, and you know, being raised Baptist, I 1000 00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:57.639 was all all in, right, this is what I was 1001 00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.880 taught that we're all going to get. 1002 00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:01.920 I always say the same thing. I always say that 1003 00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:03.960 we're going to get magically very farted out of here 1004 00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.840 before all the bad stuff happens. And it's just when 1005 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.119 I get in scripture and I look, man, that ain't 1006 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.519 that ain't what I read? So what's your take on this? 1007 00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:15.679 I think the rapture is unavoidably not in the Bible, 1008 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.960 just yeah, every single time that you see something like 1009 00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:24.679 in Thessalonians that's talking about us being caught up, it's 1010 00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:29.159 always following the resurrection of the dead. It's always following 1011 00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.360 the very last thing that occurs before death is thrown 1012

00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.840 into hell. Like. It is never within the context of like, oh, 1013 00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.519 the anti Christ has risen to powerpoof disappear. It's always 1014 00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.760 the dead in Christ shall rise first, and they shall 1015 00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.000 be caught up in the clouds with him forever and ever. 1016 00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:50.159 Like that's it's metaphorical terminology talking about that glorification with God, 1017 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.480 but it's never actually talking about a rapture at any 1018 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.039 point in the entirety of the Bible. He go into 1019 00:49:56.519 --> 00:50:01.599 Matthew twenty four and the different parallels within that where 1020 00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:04.920 he's talking about how there will be two men in 1021 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.079 a field and one will be taken and one will 1022 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:11.559 be left behind. Very different concept. That's on judgment. That's 1023 00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.000 not on the rapture where one disappears, because it's talking 1024 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:15.760 about how in the end times it'll be like in 1025 00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.599 the days of Noah. So in the days of Noah, 1026 00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.480 who were the ones that were left behind? It was 1027 00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:25.559 Noah in his family, everyone that was taken away. That 1028 00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.280 was judgment of them being removed. So it wasn't like, oh, 1029 00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:30.760 they were taken away, so lucky. 1030 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:31.719 It's like no, no, no, that. 1031 00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.800 One's going to hell. Like that's not a good You 1032 00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.039 don't want to be taken away with this. 1033 00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:39.440 Yeah, that's bad. Yeah. What's what's your timeline? When you 1034 00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:41.679 look at scripture? I hate to say that what is 1035 00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:43.719 your interpretation? Maybe is a better way to put it. 1036 00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.800 When you look at scripture and you look at the 1037 00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.280 timeline of things, what do you see happening when you 1038 00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.880 look at revelation and things like Matthew twenty four and 1039 00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.039 things like that, what's your take? 1040 00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:59.039 So I'm kinda torn between two different views. So I'm 1041 00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:03.079 stuck between a historicist view and a premillennial view, or 1042 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:06.039 a futurist view for lack of a better term. But 1043 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:08.599 in the futurist view, I'm going to say that I 1044 00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:11.400 do believe that there is going to be a final 1045 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:14.639 time of persecution, but I think that Matthew twenty four 1046 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.039 was partially preterist, where I believe that Matthew twenty four 1047 00:51:18.119 --> 00:51:21.639 was mostly actually talking about the destruction of Jerusalem, not 1048 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:25.320 about the end times, So that that's one of the 1049 00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:29.800 biggest crossovers that people get confused because Revelation was written 1050 00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:33.679 far after that. So like the people that are like 1051 00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:36.239 full predatists who claim that it was all fulfilled by 1052 00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:42.000 seventy a d. The earliest possible dating of Revelation is 1053 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.000 far after that. But you have full predatists to be like, no, no, no, 1054 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.199 had to be written beforehand. But they're just trying to 1055 00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:49.679 try to alter the date that it was written based 1056 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.599 on their eschatology to try to make it fit. But 1057 00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:54.599 the most accurate dating we would have would say that 1058 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:57.039 it was written around ninety five AD, which means that 1059 00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:00.599 it was written over thirty five years after Nero kill himself. 1060 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:03.599 And like that's another thing with like the Beast in Revelation, 1061 00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:06.960 we'd see no indication that he ever kills himself because 1062 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:10.239 he was found to be a homosexual. Like that's yeah, 1063 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.800 that's that's what happened in history where he uh slaughtered 1064 00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.079 his best friend to steal his wife, and then he 1065 00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:21.000 killed her, and then he had his slave dress up 1066 00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:25.360 as his wife, continued that relationship with the slave as 1067 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:27.880 though it was his wife. Then whenever he was caught 1068 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:29.639 on that and they cornered him. He didn't want to 1069 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:32.280 be tortured, so he slid his own throat in his bedroom. 1070 00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:34.880 You don't see any indication of that happening with the 1071 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.519 beasts in it at all. So I vehemently reject that 1072 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:40.639 Nero was the beast, especially whenever they try to get 1073 00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:42.679 into Camatri and try to say, like, oh, his name 1074 00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.559 added up to six sixty six, It's like, okay, but 1075 00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:47.800 then it was actually six one six, and I'm like, oh, okay, well, 1076 00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.639 then it also adds up there if you don't do 1077 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:53.079 it as near on Caesar. If you just have it 1078 00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:55.320 as Caesar, then it's six one six, So it still works. 1079 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.840 It's like it now you're. 1080

00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:59.880 Trying to put square pegs in round brown holes. Man. 1081 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:03.800 They desperately try to evaluate your your theology, right. 1082 00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:08.880 Yeah, But the historicis side. Historicist view is basically that 1083 00:53:08.920 --> 00:53:12.519 throughout history is when revelation is taking place. So on 1084 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:15.480 that view, it would say that the Roman Catholic Church 1085 00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:18.760 itself is the beast of revelation, that the false prophet 1086 00:53:18.880 --> 00:53:22.039 is the position of the pope, that these things are 1087 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:26.199 consistently leading away. So I'm torn on that because that 1088 00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:28.760 lines up so well, especially if you look at like 1089 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:33.199 the time of the Catholic Church starting to the Reformation, 1090 00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:36.800 even you see that lining up almost flawlessly with the 1091 00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.440 timeline that we get in Revelation. So if you have 1092 00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:43.519 like a prophetic day is a year in an actual 1093 00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:47.159 calendar sequence, And so if you look at the timeline 1094 00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:54.480 of the Tribulation where it says that it'll be gosh, 1095 00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:58.519 forty two months, is that right, what three and a 1096 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.840 half years? Yeah, three and a half for to whatever 1097 00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:04.480 it is. If you actually divide that out, you're individual okay. 1098 00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:06.159 So yeah, if you take that and you divide it 1099 00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.280 out by individual days going off of a lunar not 1100 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.039 a solar calendar, it literally would go from three eighty 1101 00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.800 to the time the Reformation started. It's like, okay, that's 1102 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:19.480 that's a weird coincidence maybe. But then in a futurist 1103 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.400 point of view, I would say that the beast is 1104 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:22.840 primarily going to be Islam. 1105 00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:25.920 Yeah, so I'm told we're trying to figure those out. 1106 00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:29.719 It's it's it's interesting too. And again get your take 1107 00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:31.519 on this. But the more I study the word of God, 1108 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.559 the more I see God's words so multi layered and 1109 00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.000 it can cover multiple things. At the same time, yes, 1110 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:39.239 because I think, obviously, if anybody that believes that the 1111 00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:43.760 Bible is accurate, which we do, and was ultimately inspired 1112 00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:48.519 by God, which we do, that means that everything in 1113 00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:51.599 it we had, you know, a sad amount of space 1114

00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.440 to convey as much information as humanly possible and by 1115 00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:57.239 the nature of how God operates anyway, And we can 1116 00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.159 see this with you know, Paleo Hebrew and Hebrew. It's well, 1117 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:03.400 it's very four dimensional, maybe even more than what we 1118 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:06.039 have in English, which is very one dimensional. And I 1119 00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:08.360 think when you look at Matthew twenty four, for me again, 1120 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:11.159 I think you're actually seeing exactly what you just said. 1121 00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:13.440 I think you're seeing a hey, here's what is going 1122 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:16.360 to happen in the near future for us now it's 1123 00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:19.679 obviously past. But I also think that there's some language 1124 00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:21.599 change it kind of nearer. You get to the end 1125 00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:23.719 of Matthew twenty four and the language seems to change 1126 00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:25.920 a little bit from what Christ is saying. And I 1127 00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:27.280 think this is one of those things where we get 1128 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:28.960 a little bit of a layer kick action kind of 1129 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:32.079 going on. And I think he's definitely talking about beyond 1130 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:37.079 seventy a D. So for me, it's interesting. But yeah, 1131 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:42.480 maning nothing sparks eschatological flames or flames in the Christian 1132 00:55:42.519 --> 00:55:45.320 community like an eschatological debate, and I've fallen victim to 1133 00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:47.920 him myself. Man, I had to apologize to two friends 1134 00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:50.840 where I'm like, I'm sorry, I got a little heated there. Yeah, 1135 00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:52.480 it's so dumb. At the end of the day, I 1136 00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:54.719 kind of have grown since then and I realized it's 1137 00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:56.280 just kind of a dumb thing to argue about. 1138 00:55:56.360 --> 00:56:00.480 But is anyone who's like anyone who's one hundred on 1139 00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:03.239 their point of view, It's like, Okay, you're probably wrong. 1140 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.559 It's like everyone who's one hundred percent certain that this 1141 00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:08.559 is exactly how it's like, you're probably wrong. 1142 00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.840 Yeah, yeah, I leave a little room for growth, right, That's. 1143 00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:13.400 Why I'm giving fifty on what I think are the 1144 00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:14.320 two most plausible. 1145 00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.599 There you go. Yeah, it's kind of kind of where 1146 00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:18.360 I am too. I've a piece together some things where 1147 00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:20.440 I'm pretty confident on it. But you know, at the 1148 00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:22.280

end of the day, Hey, man, I ain't hanging my 1149 00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:25.199 hat on nothing. I will. I'm pretty good about trying 1150 00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:28.039 to say I have this one in scripture pretty much good. 1151 00:56:28.039 --> 00:56:29.320 I'm good to go. I think I can plant my 1152 00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:30.960 flag on this, and there are some other ones where 1153 00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:33.119 I'm like, hey, I think this is what it's saying. 1154 00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.679 So I try to be really careful about distinguishing between 1155 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.239 the two. There are some die hard things I think 1156 00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:40.239 we can plant our flag on pretty pretty securely. But 1157 00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.280 there's some other areas where I'm like, yeah, I don't know. Man. 1158 00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:48.400 Oh yeah, yeah, Jesus being God, the Trinity, the Gospel, 1159 00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:50.159 like how we're saved by grace, loan to faith alone 1160 00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:52.840 and Christ alone for the glory of God alone. Those 1161 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:55.199 I will die on any hill for. I will like 1162 00:56:55.480 --> 00:56:59.599 gun to my head. I will happily recite it. But yeah, 1163 00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.320 everything else, Yeah. 1164 00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.920 We don't. Yeah, we don't know. No, we don't. You know. 1165 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.679 Do you know who Kent Hovind is. Oh? Yes, I've 1166 00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:09.800 talked to Ken a couple of times. 1167 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:12.719 Okay, So, yeah, he has a he has a joke 1168 00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:16.480 where he said that he was uh, oh gosh, what 1169 00:57:16.599 --> 00:57:21.320 is it? Uh? Pan millennial was his eschatology because he 1170 00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:22.840 says everything will pan out in the end. 1171 00:57:23.599 --> 00:57:27.119 Yeah. Are you familiar with Tom Horn? No, okay, this 1172 00:57:27.159 --> 00:57:28.760 is where I heard the same thing. It was his 1173 00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:31.920 son Joe and we were talking about eschatology or whatever, 1174 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:33.960 and Joe's just kind of, you know, yeah whatever. He goes, 1175 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:35.920 I'm gonna defer to my what my dad said. And 1176 00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:37.760 I'm like, what was your dad's view? He goes, he 1177 00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:39.360 was he was said the same thing. He's like, yeah, 1178 00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:41.719 he's pan millennial. And I'm like, oh my, what is this? 1179 00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.760 He goes, that'll pan out in the end. Yeah, that's awful. So, yeah, 1180 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:47.800 the best one ever if you go back. I don't 1181 00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:49.679 remember which one it was. If there was our first 1182 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:51.039 talk because I used to have a co host, I 1183 00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:54.119 don't know obviously, but it was our first talk or 1184 00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:57.159 our second talk with Kent and he shared his tepee joke. 1185 00:57:57.559 --> 00:57:59.519 Oh you know, I'll save that for the audience. You'll 1186 00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:01.639 have to go back listen to that one. But Ken's 1187 00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:03.280 a funny guy, man. But I do love I do 1188 00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:05.000 love Ken. He's he's a great teacher. 1189 00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:09.840 Yeah he's a little off with the King James only, 1190 00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:11.360 but aside from that, he's pretty good. 1191 00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.320 Well, you know what you are the segue king today 1192 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:15.800 because I had that on my list of things to 1193 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:20.920 talk about too. So let's talk about translation brother deal. Yeah, 1194 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.039 So let's let's start there, right, what are some things 1195 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:27.920 that you've found translationally that are issues with the King James, Well. 1196 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:30.159 The biggest issue is that no one speaks English from 1197 00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:31.559 four hundred years ago anymore. 1198 00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:35.079 It's like, simply, it's really fun. Well you can, but 1199 00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.159 doth not hear the words. 1200 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.559 It's it's funny character, right, it is very fun. But 1201 00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:42.880 the problem with it when people are saying like that 1202 00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:44.239 that is like the most accurate. 1203 00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:45.159 It's just like it. 1204 00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:49.239 It literally can't be because English evolves faster than any 1205 00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.519 language that has ever or will ever most likely exist, 1206 00:58:53.159 --> 00:58:56.360 and so like we there's terms like I'm the youngest 1207 00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:59.199 of the millennials, and so the generation right behind me 1208 00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.559 they don't know half the words that they're saying. 1209 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:05.599 And it's like, okay, I don't feel so bad, yeah exactly. 1210 00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.760 No, I'm thirty and I can't understand things that have 1211 00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:09.960 been said. But it's the same kind of a concept 1212 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:14.719 with that where English changes so much, and so sixteen five, 1213 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:18.400 sixteen eleven, the way that they spoke back then is 1214 00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:20.960 just not at all the same as today. So whether 1215 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.800 you want to hold to the Texas Receptis or hold 1216 00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:26.239 to the Codex doesn't matter. But the new King James 1217 00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:29.280 version is a far better translation than the King James 1218 00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:32.119 version simply because it updated the vernacular. 1219 00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:33.440 That's

that's it. 1220 00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:36.519 That's my only big gripe against the King James version, 1221 00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:41.280 aside from a couple just bad translations, because again the 1222 00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:44.800 English language was limited at the time compared to now, 1223 00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:47.119 so they have a few different things in there, like 1224 00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:50.880 whenever they translate hadeis as hell should never have been 1225 00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:53.000 translated as hell. So that's what brought in a lot 1226 00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:55.840 of false, bad theology in regards to Hell is them 1227 00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.760 thinking the grave is hell, Hennah is the word for 1228 00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:00.159 hell or the lake of fire. 1229 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.039 But they whitewash all of that with the word hell. 1230 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.679 Exactly where like a shield in the Old Testament they 1231 01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.760 constantly call it hell. It's just like that's not hell. No, 1232 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:09.199 it's very different things. 1233 01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:12.480 Yep, Yeah, that's a You had mentioned something earlier. I 1234 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:14.320 don't even remember what you had said, but I instantly 1235 01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:15.960 thought to myself, I want to ask him that, and 1236 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.719 we just got going on different tangents. But have you 1237 01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:21.440 found that a lack of understanding of the afterlife and 1238 01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:24.679 how that realm works and chiol and all these different 1239 01:00:24.679 --> 01:00:28.079 types of things prior to Christ. After Christ, do you 1240 01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:32.320 find that that causes a lot of understanding issues when 1241 01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:34.079 people are reading scripture. 1242 01:00:34.559 --> 01:00:37.679 Definitely, because they're going to be interpreting things based on 1243 01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:41.440 that understanding rather than what the text actually teaches. So 1244 01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:44.320 like in the church that I went to as a 1245 01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:47.519 kid growing up, it was like easy beliefsm It was 1246 01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:50.679 not really a good church at all, but within that 1247 01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:53.320 kind of a world, it was always like that you 1248 01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:55.840 die instantly in heaven, and then you read the Bible 1249 01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:59.000 and you're like, that's that's not in here at all. 1250 01:00:59.760 --> 01:00:59.920 Like that. 1251 01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.119 The whole concept of heaven is that God creates a 1252 01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:04.480 new heaven and a new Earth, but the current. 1253 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:06.239 Heaven that only God is in. 1254 01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:08.639 Jesus said in John chapter three that no one has 1255 01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:10.960 ever ascended to heaven except for he who has descended 1256 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:13.239 from heaven, and that is the Son of Man. So 1257 01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:17.719 he's explaining that that that's not real, that's not biblical. 1258 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:21.000 So the concept of like our dead loved ones are 1259 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:25.519 alive in heaven, not yet, like there's of course there. 1260 01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:28.360 Whenever we die, we leave time, So technically on an 1261 01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:31.880 eternal standpoint, we would then be alive in heaven already, 1262 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.719 just because we're no longer bound by the time. However, 1263 01:01:36.360 --> 01:01:41.199 within our understanding and perspective of time, these events haven't 1264 01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:44.239 taken place. The resurrection hasn't happened, the judgment of the 1265 01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:48.199 damned has not happened yet. And so if you look 1266 01:01:48.239 --> 01:01:51.280 at everything from that perspective, especially like with Catholics again 1267 01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:53.400 thinking that they can pray to people who are in heaven, 1268 01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:57.679 they're not in heaven yet, and half of the ones, frankly, 1269 01:01:57.719 --> 01:02:00.559 that they pray to won't ever be in heaven. So 1270 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:03.000 it's it's really tricky. 1271 01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:06.800 Yeah, it's it causes a lot of problems that I 1272 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.440 have found. One of the ones we talked about earlier, 1273 01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:12.480 for me anyway, is the eschatological side of the coin, 1274 01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:16.840 because they take Thessalonians and they take it out of context. Well, 1275 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:19.199 first of all, that's a judgment thing that they take Thessalonia. 1276 01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:21.760 I think it's the first Thessalonians four seventeen, if memory serves. 1277 01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:23.559 I'm horrible with chapter and verse, So if I got 1278 01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:26.760 that wrong, just forgive me. But the first or second, 1279 01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:31.320 but something like that, and it's really talking about ultimately, 1280 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:35.199 it's talking about judgment, not earthly judgment, but eternal judgment 1281 01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:36.960 is really what it's talking about. And again they take 1282 01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.039 it out of context because they don't understand some of 1283 01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.440 the deeper meaning behind the after life, how the after 1284 01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:44.400 life work prior to Christ, how the after life work. 1285 01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:48.559 Now the concept of Shiel again has been whitewashed through 1286 01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.400 the King James a lot of different things. But yeah, 1287 01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:53.159 you're right. I mean I have a lot of issues

1288 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.960 with the King James myself that go beyond language. But 1289 01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:59.719 language is a huge problem. The other thing too, is 1290 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:01.880 you have to see this all the time. But I 1291 01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:03.880 think one of the major things that plagues us is 1292 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:09.320 we just people cannot understand in scripture through anything but 1293 01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:13.800 a western twenty first century lens. Right, So when they 1294 01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.840 bring up dinosaurs, they bring up homosexuality, they bring up 1295 01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:18.960 any of these things, they're like, well, it's not in 1296 01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:24.320 the Bible, but it literally is it kind of is? Yeah. Yeah, 1297 01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:28.000 So it's so interesting when they do those types of things. 1298 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.800 But do you have the other translational issues that you 1299 01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:34.559 have found with different translations that you take exception to 1300 01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.159 that you think are damaging in any way? Oh? 1301 01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:40.519 Yeah, like the NIV for example, that I mean, I've 1302 01:03:40.559 --> 01:03:44.000 read that cover to cover at least twice. But within 1303 01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.519 the NIV you have very big problems. Like in John 1304 01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:50.719 chapter seven, whenever Jesus is his brothers who don't believe 1305 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:53.360 him are about to go up to this feast, and 1306 01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:55.760 the NIV says that they said come with us, and 1307 01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:58.559 Jesus says, no, I'm not going. A couple verses later, 1308 01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:03.239 then Jesus went and like Jesus just lied, or if 1309 01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:05.519 you read a real translation then you're like, oh no, 1310 01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:08.800 it says that he's not going yet, like he will 1311 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.239 catch up with them. That's the whole concept, is like 1312 01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.199 I will not be going yet, I will go with you, 1313 01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.960 I'll go later. But the NIV they don't translate it 1314 01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:21.360 correctly there, so the phrase is not yet, but the 1315 01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:24.480 phrase that they put is I'm not going. So it's 1316 01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:26.880 like that. That's just one example. But NIV, I think 1317 01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:30.840 has a lot of big issues to it, but I 1318 01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:34.440 can full of transparency and honesty. The NIV, the way 1319 01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:37.880 that they wrote the Psalms is one of the most 1320 01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:41.039 beautiful translations. To read the Psalms in nothing else but 1321 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:42.800 the Psalms are beautiful in there. 1322 01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:45.719 Yeah, there's

some poetic language that I really like too, 1323 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.719 even in the King James. Yeah, you know, it's like 1324 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:50.960 one of the things I always references Romans where it 1325 01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.360 talks about God gave them over to a reprobate. Mind. 1326 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:55.159 I use that all the time. And that's that's a 1327 01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:57.840 King James translation. You know that that's kind of old English, 1328 01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:00.679 but it just flows. Well. Yeah, and that's exactly what 1329 01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:04.199 we're seeing today. So what was your translation you pointed 1330 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:05.719 to back there that you that you use. I think 1331 01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:07.480 you've mentioned this before on some of your videos, but 1332 01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:08.679 I just want to see. 1333 01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:12.239 So right here, I have an NASB study Bible or 1334 01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:15.679 not study Bible. It's a reference Bible and it's got 1335 01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:17.360 a little room in there for me to take a 1336 01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:18.840 bunch of notes. So this is the one I write 1337 01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:20.280 in all the time, and I have a little notebook 1338 01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:23.039 stored with it where I was going through Revelation verse 1339 01:05:23.079 --> 01:05:25.119 by verse to find write a Babel. 1340 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:28.159 Well, you heretic, how could you do that? Then? 1341 01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.679 This one, this is my newest Bible. I got this 1342 01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:33.199 as a gift from bird Bound b y r D. 1343 01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:36.440 They make beautiful bibles. They reached out to me and 1344 01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:38.519 said that they wanted to make me a Bible. So 1345 01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:42.519 they asked what translation, and like, I'll pull this out. 1346 01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:46.480 Real quick, please, yeah, police do. Yeah. 1347 01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:49.840 So they made a customed Taco Talks Bible. They had 1348 01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:54.159 a stamp built to do my logo. They have the 1349 01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:56.360 Legacy Standard Bible is what this is, which is the 1350 01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:59.320 most accurate English translation that we have to date. They 1351 01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:01.119 have their logo at the bottom. But this is a 1352 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:05.400 goat skin. They said that this this goat skin is 1353 01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:07.639 I believe they said four hundred years old. 1354 01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:11.000 Oh wow. So yeah, just the nicest. 1355 01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:12.840 Bible I have ever probably will ever own. 1356 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.119 Just oh wow, so beautiful. 1357 01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:18.320 But this one was also made where there's a lot 1358 01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:20.239 of space on the sides of the margin so that 1359 01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:22.840 I can write in notes, which is exactly. 1360 01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:24.079 What I will be doing. Very cool. 1361 01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:27.280 And then this one was a Bible. Uh no, that 1362 01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:29.519 one is a standard, but it has room for you 1363 01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:30.159 to write notes in. 1364 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:31.639 Yeah, yeah, that's that's cool. 1365 01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:35.239 And then this one, this is also LSB. But this 1366 01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:39.159 one is absolutely used and abused. 1367 01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:42.840 To crab like it's just you know what they say, man, 1368 01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:46.239 So a Bible that belongs to someone that's falling apart 1369 01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:48.480 or how does it say a Bible that's falling I'm 1370 01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:53.639 gonna butcher it a Bible that's falling apart, belongs to 1371 01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:56.840 someone who isn't there it is. Yeah, I have to 1372 01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:58.480 be heavily edited so I don't sound like such an 1373 01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:00.679 idiot while I'm saying it. So there, ever, edit it, 1374 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:02.159 just go with it. Whatever. 1375 01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:05.880 Oh yeah, these LSB is the one I recommend to everybody. 1376 01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:08.360 CSB is the one I would recommend after that, and 1377 01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:13.079 then the NLT. The CSB is really really a good translation, 1378 01:07:13.360 --> 01:07:17.519 but it's written a little bit more simplistic, like easier 1379 01:07:17.519 --> 01:07:20.599 to understand. But one thing I love about the Legacy Standard, 1380 01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:23.480 and one thing I love about the Christian Standard is 1381 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:27.000 that in the Old Testament they use the word yahweh, 1382 01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:31.119 and I love that because the replacing of it with 1383 01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.480 ad and I, which translated over to Lord eventually made 1384 01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:37.480 it a little confusing for some. But whenever you have 1385 01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:41.039 it in like the the LSB, every single time yahueh 1386 01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:42.480 is used, it declares yahueh. 1387 01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:44.440 The CSB, it's only. 1388 01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:47.519 During dialogue, and it kind of it punches you a 1389 01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.280 little harder whenever it's during a dialogue where it'll say 1390 01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:53.000 like that the Lord commanded Moses to do this, and 1391 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:55.840 then Moses goes and says that yahueh, my God has 1392 01:07:55.880 --> 01:07:57.400 commanded me to do this, and it's just. 1393 01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:01.760 Like, oh that that's awesome. There you go. Are you 1394 01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:04.519 a fan of the es VAN all Uh, I'm not. 1395 01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:10.639 I'm not opposed to it. I've read it at

least once. Uh. 1396 01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.920 Yeah, I've probably read it like one and a half times. 1397 01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.920 But yeah, the ESB is great. There's no complaints, no 1398 01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:20.880 problems with it. I just like these ones more. 1399 01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:24.279 Yeah, that's it's it's it's it's a fun thing. And 1400 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.720 I've been critical on some translations, but I've always made 1401 01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:30.600 sure to say and I'll say it again here, they're 1402 01:08:30.600 --> 01:08:32.880 all good enough to get you to Jesus man. Yeah, 1403 01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:35.479 as long as they're real. Yeah, as long as they're real. 1404 01:08:35.640 --> 01:08:37.439 Which brings me to my next question is what is 1405 01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:40.479 your take on like the Passion the Message, things like these. 1406 01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:45.039 I think that those are abominations. Okay, if they say that. 1407 01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.119 If they said that they were rewrites, if they literally 1408 01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:50.920 said like that, this is not a translation, I'd be 1409 01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:52.920 okay with that. But they market it as though it's 1410 01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.640 a translation, and it is a blatant rewrite as bad 1411 01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.399 as the New World translation or the Joseph Smith translation 1412 01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:01.960 they're absolutely the abominab bolder blasphemist. 1413 01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:05.000 They're claiming that God said things that he has not said. Amen, 1414 01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:09.239 all said. Have you gotten into like the do you 1415 01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:11.119 have a septuagen anywhere that you've read? 1416 01:09:12.159 --> 01:09:14.680 No, I do not own a full copy of the 1417 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:15.279 set Tuogen. 1418 01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:18.039 That's that's definitely one you should put on your list. Man, 1419 01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:20.640 that's a good one. It's it's amazing to go back 1420 01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:23.520 to some of those really old texts and go back 1421 01:09:23.560 --> 01:09:26.479 to like the Septuagent. The problem that we have is, Man, 1422 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:29.079 I wish I could speak Hebrew or Greek because it 1423 01:09:29.079 --> 01:09:31.439 would at least remove one, if not two layers of 1424 01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:35.479 translational filtering. We just lose so much in the translation 1425 01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:40.079 between Hebrew and English especially but even Aramaic to English 1426 01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:43.159 or Greek English, we just lose so much. Again, the 1427 01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:46.359 the it's gotten better because the English language, much to 1428 01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:48.239 your point of what you've said, has evolved, so we 1429 01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:52.800 have much you know, more complex layers of dialogue that 1430 01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:55.079 we can use, or words vocabulary, words that we can 1431 01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.920 use to actually fill things. But you know, it's just 1432 01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:03.840 very very filtered in one English is very one dimensional. 1433 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.960 I find versus Hebrew have you ever seen how paleo 1434 01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:09.800 Hebrew works at all. Yeah, you're seeing the videos. 1435 01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:13.960 It's cool, especially within like that every single character in 1436 01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:17.239 and of itself has a phrase associated with it. 1437 01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:20.000 It's amazing. Yeah. Have you ever seen the video that 1438 01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:22.960 the guy does on bear sheet breaking down beginning the 1439 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:25.079 word beginning in the I've. 1440 01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:27.520 Done a video on that, so I may have seen 1441 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:30.600 the video that you're talking about, or I mean there's 1442 01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:33.159 a ton of people who have made videos on bow sheets. 1443 01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:34.880 But yeah, just amazing. 1444 01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:38.479 Word the very word declares that it is the son 1445 01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:40.760 of God who will die on behalf of the world 1446 01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:41.319 on the cross. 1447 01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:46.279 Yeah, very very cool, amazing. You can you imagine, Like again, 1448 01:10:46.399 --> 01:10:48.560 it's like, I want to learn Hebrews so bad, but 1449 01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:50.119 I'm just trying to find the time to do it. 1450 01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:54.359 Because if that's one word, right, one word, so the 1451 01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:58.760 depth of scripture would just become that multi dimensional pop 1452 01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.159 off the page to you if you could, you know, 1453 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:03.239 really absorb it in the ancient language, I think would 1454 01:11:03.239 --> 01:11:05.000 be so phenomenal and so fantastic. 1455 01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:07.520 But I set out to try to learn Hebrew, but 1456 01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:11.039 I then got a girlfriend, so I lost. 1457 01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:13.399 All of my free time to do that. Yeah, you'll 1458 01:11:13.399 --> 01:11:18.279 have time more money now, So that's fun. That's why 1459 01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:20.840 you need support, taco. Man. We'll get to addresses and 1460 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.000 web addresses and stuff later where you can support this guy. 1461 01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:25.800 But yeah, that's cool man. Well, all the best with 1462 01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.920 that for sure. So you you had mentioned something else 1463 01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:30.880 here that I want to touch upon, which was Islam, 1464 01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:33.920 because I think this is obviously a huge issue and 1465 01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:37.159 I think you do too, So touch upon what you 1466 01:11:37.239

--> 01:11:40.840 see when you look at Islam and how it flies 1467 01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:42.960 in the face of scripture. 1468 01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:47.359 So it has uh which I'm sure that you've definitely 1469 01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:52.079 heard of. The Islamic dilemma z thatch, right, I think so, okay, yeah, 1470 01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:55.640 So the Islamic dilemma for your audience, it basically is 1471 01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.119 that the Quran says to believe the Bible, but the 1472 01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:01.079 Bible would show that the Koran is ultimately and so 1473 01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:04.800 in that singular contradiction, Islam would be false. But further 1474 01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:08.319 than that, what Islam does is they try to alter 1475 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:11.560 every aspect of Jesus to the point that they reject 1476 01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:15.840 every significant aspect of who he is. Specifically, if you 1477 01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:17.640 go into Surah five seventy two in the Koran, it 1478 01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:19.479 says that if you believe that Jesus is God, then 1479 01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:21.840 you will burn in hell for all eternity. The exact 1480 01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:24.119 polarity to that. In John eight twenty four, Jesus says, 1481 01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.279 ull bless you believe that I am, you will shall 1482 01:12:26.319 --> 01:12:28.680 die in your sins, and I am being the eternal 1483 01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:33.199 name of God Yahweh. That is massive what he's saying. 1484 01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:35.439 Where he's saying, if you don't believe that I am God, 1485 01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:37.479 then you will die in your sins. And so it's 1486 01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:41.560 a direct failure in that point. Or in Surah three, 1487 01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:43.840 it says that if you believe that Jesus the Son 1488 01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:46.399 of Mary, is God, then you do not have the 1489 01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:49.399 truth in you. Comparing that to the Bible, John fourteen, 1490 01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:52.600 Jesus says, I am the Way, the Truth, and the life. 1491 01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:54.520 No one can come to the Father but through me. 1492 01:12:55.039 --> 01:12:58.199 Like it's plainly written out in the Bible that Jesus 1493 01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.439 is God, and the Quran it denies every aspect of that. Further, 1494 01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:04.800 whenever Mohammad was trying to go over stuff, because Mohammad 1495 01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:07.399 was illiterate, which is why he didn't write anything down. 1496 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.920 Rather it was all oral stuff that was later written. 1497 01:13:10.239 --> 01:13:13.039 But as he was telling these stories that were trying 1498 01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:17.680 to recount biblical stuff. He got things wrong, like drastically wrong, 1499 01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:21.720 like people in the wrong situations where he attributed I 1500 01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:27.199 think it was, oh gosh, he attributed Moses to an 1501 01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:29.680 event that took place like a thousand years after Moses died, 1502 01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:32.119 And I can't remember what it was exactly. 1503 01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:36.560 I have it on in vaguely rolling around in my 1504 01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:37.880 head too, but I can't remember either. 1505 01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:40.439 No, it was it was before Moses, it was it 1506 01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:43.479 was Gideon. He confused Moses and Gideon together and got 1507 01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:46.720 those very badly crossed. But a lot of the stuff 1508 01:13:46.720 --> 01:13:49.520 in the Kuran Moses or sorry, Mohammad, he really had 1509 01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:52.000 no idea of what the Bible taught. So he was 1510 01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:53.880 going off of a lot of different rumors that he 1511 01:13:53.960 --> 01:13:58.560 was hearing, significant ones like there was a gnostic legend 1512 01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:01.960 about Jesus that whenever he was born, that he popped 1513 01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:03.520 out of the woman and said I have been sent 1514 01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:06.439 from God. So Mohammed taught that he popped out of 1515 01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:09.159 the women said I have been sent from Allah. It's like, 1516 01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:12.399 no neither of those happened. But Mohammad thought that was 1517 01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:14.479 actually in the Bible, so he put it in the Koran. 1518 01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.760 It's just like, that's not at all it happened. But yeah, 1519 01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:22.960 just everything that Islam teaches contradicts itself. Whenever it's saying 1520 01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:26.119 the Bible is true, and then the Bible says, but 1521 01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:27.119 yours isn't. 1522 01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:30.159 It's so amazing because they still they still ascribe a 1523 01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:34.319 lot of the same divine attributes to Jesus as far 1524 01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:36.680 as virgin birth things like this, and it's like, how 1525 01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:40.520 do you not then attach divinity to him if he 1526 01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:43.520 was born of a virgin It's it's it's kind of 1527 01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:46.640 a head scratcher, really, it's it's, uh, it's weird. What 1528 01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:49.239 do you where do you think the origin point for. 1529 01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:52.399 This was, Well, they they will say that Jesus was 1530 01:14:52.399 --> 01:14:56.800 the Messiah, but yeah, they will have a completely different meaning. 1531 01:14:56.760 --> 01:14:58.000 For what messiah is. 1532 01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:02.680 But they say that God, sorry, Allah has no son, 1533 01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:06.359 and Allah is no father, and so they just consistently 1534 01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:10.520 deny that Jesus had a divinity to him, and so 1535 01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:14.119 they create a

completely and totally false version of Jesus, 1536 01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:16.039 which I think is one of the biggest problems in 1537 01:15:16.079 --> 01:15:19.520 this world is that there's a multiplicity of fake jesus 1538 01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:23.079 Is that people follow, and so that would be one 1539 01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.039 of the primary ones where they try to act like 1540 01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:28.640 he was a prophet, but then the Quran says that 1541 01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:31.800 he was never crucified, but Allah made it appear that way. 1542 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:37.600 It's like, oh, so Allah lied, Alla deceived people. Oh right, 1543 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:42.439 that's that's not God. That's that's a very big creepy thing. 1544 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:46.039 But yeah, and then they said that that all of 1545 01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:49.319 the followers perverted what Jesus said to try to claim 1546 01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:52.359 that he was. Like, it's just every aspect of it 1547 01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:55.560 is gross. And I think that it was one of 1548 01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:57.159 two things. It was either a sci out from the 1549 01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:59.760 Catholic Church, because there's a big theory with that, and 1550 01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:03.359 then and there's another one that stems into it just 1551 01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:08.760 being this delusional, demon possessed man, because like in the 1552 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.279 Second Corinthians eleven fourteen, it says that Satan will appear 1553 01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:13.680 as an angel of light, and you see an angel 1554 01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:16.000 of light appearing to Mohammed inside of a cave, and 1555 01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.760 the first instincts of Muhammad as being so terrified he 1556 01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.359 tries to kill himself. It's like that that was a demon, 1557 01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:26.119 and that demon tried to give a false gospel. And 1558 01:16:26.159 --> 01:16:29.000 then you have Joseph Smith who was approached by an 1559 01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.720 angel of light that claimed to be Moroni, who gave 1560 01:16:31.760 --> 01:16:35.000 a different gospel and taught a different Jesus. It's just 1561 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:37.840 basically every false religion that you look at. If you 1562 01:16:37.880 --> 01:16:41.319 read Second Corinthians eleven first, you're like, ah, yep, this 1563 01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:41.880 isn't real. 1564 01:16:42.319 --> 01:16:45.279 Mass parades is an angel of light. Yep, that's cool. 1565 01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:46.880 I've never thought about that before. But you're dead on 1566 01:16:46.960 --> 01:16:50.760 right there. That's fascinating. Yeah, Mormonism is obviously another huge problem, 1567 01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:52.079 but you do see the same origin. 1568 01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.279 Yeah, it's an angel of light that is leading people 1569 01:16:55.319 --> 01:16:57.640 after a false gospel Mngalatians. 1570 01:16:57.119 --> 01:16:57.479 One to eight. 1571 01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:00.439 This is why Paul says, if we or an angel 1572 01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:04.439 from heaven should proclaim any other gospel to you, let 1573 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:07.920 him be anathema, let him be damned eternally by God, 1574 01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:11.640 because what they're doing is teaching something that cannot save you, 1575 01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:13.199 something that is ultimately going to. 1576 01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:16.359 Take you to hell. Yeah. I think we've kind of 1577 01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:18.640 danced around all this question today, but I just want 1578 01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:20.560 to hit you straight with it. When you look at 1579 01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:23.920 the church in America, what do you see? You know, 1580 01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:27.239 as far as our current state, I see a lot 1581 01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:28.000 of variants. 1582 01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:30.560 So it's it's hard to narrow down, but I see 1583 01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:36.159 within gen Z, for example, it is slowly becoming one 1584 01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:40.079 of the most conservative in Christian generations. 1585 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:45.119 Wow for the males, but sounds like it's a good thing. 1586 01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:48.920 Well, so that's where we have a direct polarity based 1587 01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:52.399 on the sex, based on gender with interesting is that 1588 01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.319 the women are more liberal than they have ever been. 1589 01:17:55.439 --> 01:17:57.359 They are more atheist than they have ever been. 1590 01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:01.319 They go into all the astrology horoscope bullcrap. 1591 01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:06.159 But then you have the men are becoming more Christian, 1592 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:08.680 becoming more conservative, and as a result of that, it's 1593 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:12.079 becoming impossible for them to find wives like that was 1594 01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:14.680 my biggest struggle with dating is that everyone was either 1595 01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:20.319 liberal or atheist or just taken like. 1596 01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:21.840 That was the biggest thing. 1597 01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:23.680 I was on all these dating apps for years and 1598 01:18:23.720 --> 01:18:25.640 they were just garbage. I got off all those back 1599 01:18:25.680 --> 01:18:28.520 in twenty twenty whenever they all did a bunch of 1600 01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:33.920 woke liberal nonsense and anyways, don't recommend those, but it 1601 01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:35.079 uh right. 1602 01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:36.479 I it was like. 1603 01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:39.479 Very blessed and very fortunate to meet my girlfriend, who 1604 01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:43.159 I call Madam Taco. But when I met her, she 1605 01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:48.399 was liberal and atheist and throughout dating, she got saved, 1606 01:18:48.439 --> 01:18:50.359 she became

a Christian. We ended up breaking up for 1607 01:18:50.399 --> 01:18:54.359 a couple months because I didn't see any change. I 1608 01:18:54.359 --> 01:18:56.279 didn't think that she was actually going to become a Christian. 1609 01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:58.079 And it was while we were broken up, she kept 1610 01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:00.000 going to church, she kept reading the Bible. 1611 01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:02.760 And got saved her. Wow, that's cool. 1612 01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:07.600 And with that sorry, no mass cool? 1613 01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:20.000 Oh she uh take it twn brothers all right. God 1614 01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:21.880 is just amazing. Amen. 1615 01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:26.600 So to see something like that happen where she was 1616 01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:30.000 very liberal and now she owns multiple guns like she 1617 01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:34.520 just every every aspect of her has been touched by 1618 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:36.800 God and it is just beautiful. 1619 01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:41.199 Awesome dude. So that's that's so good. Now you are 1620 01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:44.600 no longer equally unequally yoked. That's exactly beautiful part of 1621 01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:45.199 all of it. Man. 1622 01:19:45.640 --> 01:19:47.600 That's why it broke up with her in the first place, 1623 01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:50.479 because I needed to love God more than I loved her. 1624 01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:53.840 You know, God saved her. Isn't it amazing? Though I 1625 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.039 have I've had a recent event in my own life, 1626 01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:59.000 even within the last two years, where doing the hard thing, 1627 01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:01.760 it was amazing to watch God work in that and 1628 01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:07.199 actually bring redemption and restoration through doing the hard thing. Yeah, amazing, 1629 01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:10.000 it's amazing because that's what. 1630 01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:13.680 The Bible talks about, that suffering produces perseverance, and that 1631 01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:15.000 perseverance produces character. 1632 01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:18.760 That's right, yep. And and and you know, when you're 1633 01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:21.720 not seeking after the reward and you're only seeking after obedience, 1634 01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:25.159 the reward tends to find you. Yes, you know, because 1635 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:27.680 your heart again comes back to the heart. Your heart 1636 01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:29.399 is in the right place, your heart is in alignment. 1637 01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:33.239 And then bada bing bada boom's the greatest restore of 1638 01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:36.880 all man. Yeah. But yeah, that tattoo on my arm. 1639 01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:39.479 I have Proverbs four twenty three, which is to guard 1640 01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:41.920 your heart always, because from there precedes everything you do. 1641 01:20:42.479 --> 01:20:44.640 But then right next to what I have

Jeremiah seventeen nine, 1642 01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:46.119 which is the heart is desperately wicked. 1643 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:50.319 Who can know it? It's very We are a dichotomy 1644 01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:54.399 of belief systems are very much. It's so true though, 1645 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:57.159 it's ultimately so true. And the more you grow closer 1646 01:20:57.199 --> 01:20:58.920 to Christ, and the more you grow closer to God, 1647 01:20:58.920 --> 01:21:01.920 the more you see man scriptures kind alive to me 1648 01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.199 so much more in the last few years of my life, girl, 1649 01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:06.279 as I've grown closer to the Lord, and truly given 1650 01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:09.680 my life over, I see things so differently now and 1651 01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:14.039 so so much a new and it's such a beautiful experience. 1652 01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:17.119 And she's gonna have that same experience and you guys 1653 01:21:17.159 --> 01:21:20.239 get to have that together, which is absolutely fantastic. Yes, 1654 01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:23.680 So you know, I guess you know, to kind of 1655 01:21:23.720 --> 01:21:27.800 finish on finish on the questions today, I guess when 1656 01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:31.399 you go one further on the church question, do you 1657 01:21:32.039 --> 01:21:34.239 I guess and follow up to what you just said, 1658 01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:38.560 why do you think there is such a big, huge 1659 01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:40.960 swing between the guys and the girls of that generation. 1660 01:21:41.039 --> 01:21:46.079 That's fascinating to me. Why a third way of feminism? Mm? Okay, 1661 01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:46.920 that makes a lot of sense. 1662 01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:49.720 Actually, yeah, first wave of feminism that was actually done 1663 01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:52.760 by men, which is like in the nineteen twenty is 1664 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:54.800 the right to vote. Women did not want that. Women 1665 01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:56.680 did not want the right to vote. That was primarily 1666 01:21:56.800 --> 01:21:59.560 men were pushing for that, and women were saying like, no, no, no, 1667 01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:00.920 because that means we're gonna have to sign up for 1668 01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:02.560 the draft bucket brigade and we're going to have to 1669 01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:04.520 own property, Like we don't want to have any of 1670 01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:07.199 those responsibilities. And they were like no, no, we're just 1671 01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:09.159 going to make it a right for everybody, because voting 1672 01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:10.880 in this country was never a right to begin with. 1673 01:22:11.399 --> 01:22:14.199 Then second wave feminism was like put women in the workplace, 1674 01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:16.680 which then put double the people in the workplace and 1675 01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:19.399 divided the actual income in half, which is why people 1676 01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:21.880 can't survive unless both haves are working now. 1677 01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:25.359 Product exactly. Yeah. 1678 01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:29.680 And then as a result of that, continuing further into 1679 01:22:29.720 --> 01:22:32.319 the I'm a strong independent woman who don't need no man, 1680 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:35.079 then we have a lot of women who try to 1681 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:38.439 do all of the things that are not natural to them. 1682 01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:41.960 They want to have that dominance that like the Bible 1683 01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:43.880 talks about that was part of the punishment for Eve 1684 01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:46.960 is that you will crave dominion over your husband and 1685 01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:50.960 that is a curse. But that is what women today think, like, oh, 1686 01:22:51.079 --> 01:22:53.920 I need to be leading my relationship, that it will 1687 01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:56.880 be a like female led relationship, and the Bible says like, no, 1688 01:22:56.960 --> 01:22:59.920 that doesn't function. And so if you have a man 1689 01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:02.279 who is naturally designed to be in the position of 1690 01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:04.479 a leader within the household, and then you have a 1691 01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:07.840 woman who's constantly berating, nagging, going against him, you have 1692 01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:09.720 like in Proverbs where it says that it's better for 1693 01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:11.439 a man to live on the corner of his roof 1694 01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:13.640 than in the house with a nagging woman. And it's like, 1695 01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:17.239 heymen's that is the case that we're in where you 1696 01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:20.680 have that just battle between the two. And it is 1697 01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:23.520 a direct result of third wave feminism saying that men 1698 01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:26.960 aren't necessary, you can do everything by yourself. But the 1699 01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.239 reality is like, no, men are completely necessary, and so 1700 01:23:30.399 --> 01:23:34.600 are women. God designed us together for a very distinct purpose. 1701 01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:38.119 Yep. So it's just funny. It's another thing too, like 1702 01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:40.720 for my wife, and I was married four oh my gosh, 1703 01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:43.760 fourteen fifteen years, not a good year in the fifteen 1704 01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:45.399 got married when I was too young, didn't know it 1705 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:48.159 was good for myself, all kinds of just horrible. And 1706 01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:50.840 I live that every day of that verse that you 1707 01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:53.680 just read, so I know exactly what that feels like. 1708 01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:57.840 And never allowed to be seated in my proper role 1709 01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:00.279 in the family because it was in some way going 1710 01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:04.079 to jeopardize

her freedom and her safety and things like this, right, 1711 01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:07.159 the inability to let go and actually do it God's way. 1712 01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:09.600 And now I have the opposite of that, you know, 1713 01:24:10.079 --> 01:24:12.520 I have the restoration story. On the long end of 1714 01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:15.680 what you just shared with your girlfriend a second ago. 1715 01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:18.600 You know, my wife now is completely the polar opposite 1716 01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:22.319 of that. She fully embraces me as the leader of 1717 01:24:22.359 --> 01:24:25.520 our home and allows me to be seated in the 1718 01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:28.560 proper godly role that scripture outlines, and she follows the 1719 01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:31.560 proper godly role that scripture outlines for her. And it's 1720 01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:34.600 amazing how it works. I mean, it works so much better. 1721 01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:38.199 It does almost like God had a plan. Yeah, yeah, right. 1722 01:24:38.279 --> 01:24:40.720 And it's funny thing too that you had mentioned because 1723 01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:43.399 I actually lived what you had just talked about. Because 1724 01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:47.079 the third wave for me, my two cents would be 1725 01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:51.840 in the eighties actually late eighties early nineties is when 1726 01:24:51.880 --> 01:24:55.079 we had a huge feminism swing where it was very 1727 01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:58.479 male dominated and we went to the last wave of 1728 01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:01.560 this women's lib It's kind of continued since then, it 1729 01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:04.680 just gotten worse. And now I guess where I was 1730 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:06.680 going to go with the final little bit of our 1731 01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:09.399 talk today. I want to touch upon some areas that weren't 1732 01:25:09.399 --> 01:25:12.479 necessarily scripture, other areas that you're interested in, but they 1733 01:25:12.560 --> 01:25:15.680 do touch upon scripture. People don't typically associate the two. 1734 01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:18.279 And it's so funny that you seguate us again, it's like, God, 1735 01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:20.199 I'm using you to segue the show man, it's beautiful 1736 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:24.760 of this masculinity thing, because it sure seems to me. 1737 01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:28.399 And again I'll get your take that there has been 1738 01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:33.960 this multi decade now attack on masculinity. Right, we have 1739 01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:36.560 the I think the enemy knows well that if he 1740 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:39.720 can poison the root of the tree, the men, right, 1741 01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:41.840 because the men are the ones that are just designed 1742 01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:46.279 to be the leaders of the church, the world, and 1743 01:25:46.359 --> 01:25:50.399 the home. Right, if we can poison that, then ultimately 1744 01:25:50.680 -->

01:25:53.520 we can kill the rest of the tree. Do you 1745 01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:54.479 see that same thing. 1746 01:25:56.479 --> 01:26:01.159 The biggest thing now is toxic masculinity. Yeah, it is 1747 01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:04.960 the dumbest thing because whenever you look at the people 1748 01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:07.680 that they try to say like, oh, that's toxic masculinity, 1749 01:26:07.680 --> 01:26:10.359 It's like, no, that's a lack of masculinity. That is 1750 01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:13.000 the weakest, most fragile manchild in the world. 1751 01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:14.119 That would treat his wife. 1752 01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:15.279 That way, that would beat his wife, that would do 1753 01:26:15.359 --> 01:26:16.920 any of that stuff, that's not masculine. 1754 01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:18.359 That's the antithesis of it. 1755 01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:21.239 He is a weak, fragile, delicate little butterfly who needs 1756 01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:22.640 to be punched in the face for the first time 1757 01:26:22.680 --> 01:26:24.039 in his life so that he can grow up and 1758 01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:26.720 become masculine. I'm a firm believer that everyone needs to 1759 01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:29.359 be punched in the face at least once in their life. 1760 01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:32.359 Everyone is deserving of said punch in the face at 1761 01:26:32.439 --> 01:26:34.319 least once in their life. I can guarantee probably more 1762 01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:34.640 than that. 1763 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:37.960 Well, yeah, it's just like when you don't have anything 1764 01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:41.000 to humble you, then you start to exalt yourself and 1765 01:26:41.039 --> 01:26:43.600 be prideful and start to think so many different things 1766 01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:47.840 about yourself and your own capability that just doesn't function. 1767 01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:52.800 Everyone genuinely needs to have a physical takedown of them 1768 01:26:53.039 --> 01:26:56.159 so that they stop being so arrogant, cocky, and prideful 1769 01:26:56.199 --> 01:27:01.159 about everything, because that is the antithesis of masculinity. To 1770 01:27:01.159 --> 01:27:03.439 be masculine means that you are going to be protective, 1771 01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:06.399 not abusive. It means that you're going to be strong, 1772 01:27:07.039 --> 01:27:10.760 both emotionally and physically. But you see all the people 1773 01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:14.640 that are like these wife beaters. These are not strong 1774 01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:18.680 men no Emotionally, they do not have a maturity level 1775 01:27:18.800 --> 01:27:22.039 above that of a kindergartener, and so they lash out 1776 01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:27.359 violently instead of being able to actually overcome their emotions 1777 01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:30.119 and not let them get to a physical point. So 1778 01:27:30.159 --> 01:27:34.560 it's not toxic masculinity. It is the lack of masculinity 1779 01:27:34.600 -->

01:27:35.680 that is hypertoxic. 1780 01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:39.800 Amen Well said, yeah, I've always liked to say, you know, 1781 01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:42.479 heavy is the crown boys. You know, any guy that 1782 01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:46.720 would use his position of authority in a negative way 1783 01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:49.239 like that, right, It always comes back to me for 1784 01:27:49.279 --> 01:27:51.399 the same thing of like, man, you are so insecure 1785 01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:54.359 because of all of the junk that you've got rattling 1786 01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:56.800 around in your cage that you've never dealt with properly. 1787 01:27:56.840 --> 01:27:59.000 Whatever your upbringing or whatever you want to tack on 1788 01:27:59.039 --> 01:28:01.880 to the reason why, it doesn't make any difference. That's 1789 01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.600 exactly what's going on. But heavy is the crown, you know, 1790 01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:07.640 because whatever happens in your home, the way I view 1791 01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:09.680 it is, yes, you may make a decision together, but 1792 01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:11.159 at the end of the day, you're the leader. It's 1793 01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:14.520 on you. Yeah, you know, how you treat your wife, 1794 01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:17.760 it's on you. And it's just so amazing to me 1795 01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:20.920 how we've cherry picked scripture too. And that's another issue 1796 01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:24.439 that's been long standing in forever church, is cherry picking 1797 01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:26.760 scripture to go you know, well, here's how the woman 1798 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:29.039 should act in the home, and it's like, keep reading boys, 1799 01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:31.199 because the next few lines are directed at you and 1800 01:28:31.239 --> 01:28:35.279 they're not so great exactly, And it says heavy's a crown. 1801 01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:38.560 That's the biggest thing that people don't comprehend with it 1802 01:28:38.760 --> 01:28:41.239 where it says like why submit to your husbands and 1803 01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:44.439 then women are going, oh, that's gross, and. 1804 01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:47.560 Then it goes men die for your wives, that's right. 1805 01:28:49.039 --> 01:28:50.239 Which one's more severe? 1806 01:28:50.640 --> 01:28:55.359 Just like, yeah, have respect for him or him literally 1807 01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:59.119 at any moments notice, he must be willing to die 1808 01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:03.119 to preserve your life. It's like, which I mean, I 1809 01:29:03.199 --> 01:29:04.840 kind of live in a way like I know where 1810 01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:05.640 I'm going when I die. 1811 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:06.760 I'm not worried about dying. 1812 01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:08.439 It all that mean, So I would happily die for 1813 01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:11.199 any strangers that have come across, but even more so 1814 01:29:11.319 --> 01:29:14.760 for those I love. So I just I'm ready to 1815 01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:16.840 bear that burden at any second that God wants it 1816 01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:17.279 to happen. 1817 01:29:17.640 --> 01:29:21.840 Yeah, I called the ultimate life promotion. Yeah, the after 1818 01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:24.760 life promotion, I guess is what it is. Uh, but yeah, man, 1819 01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:26.439 it's one of those things where it's like, you know, 1820 01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:29.199 and for anybody's come. Bible doesn't say that, it says 1821 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:31.439 love your wives. It is Christ love the Church well, 1822 01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:33.199 he cut right through what the Christ loved the church, 1823 01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:36.119 what did he do for us? That's exactly what he 1824 01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:36.680 was just saying. 1825 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:38.520 The greater act of love than this is to lay 1826 01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:39.479 down your life for those you. 1827 01:29:39.439 --> 01:29:44.680 Love exactly, exactly. Well, brother, this has been a fantastic talk. Man. 1828 01:29:44.720 --> 01:29:46.560 I appreciate you coming on here and talking with me, 1829 01:29:47.039 --> 01:29:50.399 of course. Yeah. Fun time. Yeah, good deal, dero and 1830 01:29:50.399 --> 01:29:52.000 we'll we'll have to I'll have to check in with 1831 01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:54.079 you and see how you're doing and maybe have you 1832 01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:55.399 back at some point in the future. We can talk 1833 01:29:55.399 --> 01:29:58.039 about all kinds of stuff. Deal. Last question I have 1834 01:29:58.079 --> 01:30:00.319 to have for you. Do you care far away? What 1835 01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:03.560 is it do you carry? Yes, sir, I do. What 1836 01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:07.079 do you carry? So? I have a sig P three 1837 01:30:07.119 --> 01:30:09.399 sixty five out in the car. I have a Smith 1838 01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:12.199 and West and s R forty upstairs. I probably shouldn't 1839 01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:15.560 be rattling these off online. But you carry it on 1840 01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:18.359 your person. Oh yeah, the P three sixty five would 1841 01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:22.000 be on me perfect good. Yeah, yeah, man, it's it's 1842 01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:23.800 it's a little heavy because it's a double stack mag 1843 01:30:24.199 --> 01:30:26.279 but because no matter how small a gun is, man, 1844 01:30:26.319 --> 01:30:28.920 if you're putting two, you know, if you got a 1845 01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:32.279 double stack mag in there. The lid is what weighs 1846 01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:34.359 the most, right. The gun is kind of an afterthought 1847 01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:37.279 in some ways, but ultimately at the end of the day, 1848 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:39.560 it's probably overkill. You can probably get away with a 1849 01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:41.479 single stack mag on your carry gun. 1850 01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:44.680 But you know, I carry a full size, so like 1851

01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:47.840 this is my desk gun, but what I carry is 1852 01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:49.920 what I carry is the same as this, So like, 1853 01:30:49.960 --> 01:30:51.920 this is a Glock nineteen variant, so it's like a 1854 01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:54.720 double stack fifteen plus one. There you go to full 1855 01:30:55.079 --> 01:30:58.079 but the one I carry is an actual Gen four 1856 01:30:58.119 --> 01:31:00.239 Block nineteen that I carry every second of every day. 1857 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:02.199 It's not on me right now. That's why I have 1858 01:31:02.199 --> 01:31:04.119 the desk gun, so I can leave that one right there. 1859 01:31:05.199 --> 01:31:07.600 Yeah, I was never a I was never a fan 1860 01:31:07.680 --> 01:31:10.000 of the glock. It just didn't really fit my hand 1861 01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:12.279 well for some reason, I didn't. I just didn't care 1862 01:31:12.319 --> 01:31:15.920 for it. But it's funny because the was it at 1863 01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:18.800 the SR forty upstairs that Smith and Western SR forty 1864 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:21.760 was actually designed was kind of the next model after 1865 01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:24.239 the Smith and Weston Sigma forty, which they got sued 1866 01:31:24.319 --> 01:31:27.199 for the Sigma. I don't know how a gun nerd 1867 01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:30.720 you are, but they got sued by Glock for patent 1868 01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:32.880 infringement for that gun, so they had to pay them 1869 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:34.439 a whole bunch of money. And I don't I think 1870 01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:36.359 that probably went away when they moved over to the 1871 01:31:36.439 --> 01:31:40.000 SR forty. But it is basically a glock, isn't that 1872 01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:41.760 It takes down just like a glock. You do the 1873 01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:44.920 I mean, it's it's it is. It is structure. I 1874 01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:46.239 could hand it to you and you'd be like, oh, 1875 01:31:46.279 --> 01:31:49.119 this is a block. Yeah, but the handle's just different. 1876 01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:51.800 Yeah, because they kept they got rid of the grip angle, 1877 01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:54.319 which is usually the biggest complaint for glocks is the 1878 01:31:54.319 --> 01:31:57.159 twenty two But that's that's my favorite part about glock. Yeah, 1879 01:31:57.279 --> 01:32:01.000 just because when you're gripping the gun with a twenty 1880 01:32:01.039 --> 01:32:05.159 two degree, your wrist is naturally canton forward, so that 1881 01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:08.079 puts it into a more structurally integral position to manage 1882 01:32:08.079 --> 01:32:09.279 that recoil a little bit better. 1883 01:32:09.560 --> 01:32:09.760 Yeah. 1884 01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:11.840 But yeah, so I'm big gun nerd, but yeah, I 1885 01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:13.720 just wanted to go over that since we were touching 1886 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:14.640 on masculinity. 1887 01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:17.800 Make sure

that you're I mean, I'm good man, good Yep, 1888 01:32:17.880 --> 01:32:20.920 there's a there's a actually one of the cool things upstairs, 1889 01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:22.880 and I've actually had it checked out make sure it shoots. 1890 01:32:22.920 --> 01:32:25.000 I have not shot at myself, but I have an 1891 01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:29.439 Iver Johnson single barrel twelve gage. I think that's a 1892 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:33.840 full show upstairs. Was my grandfather's. They like mass produced 1893 01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:36.119 them back in like maybe the fifties. I think the 1894 01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:38.000 the serial number on it as I tracked it back 1895 01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:40.199 to the fifties. I think we've never done it, but 1896 01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:42.199 I've talked about just kind of breaking it open because 1897 01:32:42.199 --> 01:32:43.960 it's a break right, and then just hanging it in 1898 01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:46.000 the front room over I've got like a pledge of allegiance, 1899 01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:48.520 you know thing that I've gotten a plaque there that 1900 01:32:48.520 --> 01:32:50.000 would be kind of cool because we live out in 1901 01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:51.920 the kind of the country and like cabin and stuff. 1902 01:32:52.439 --> 01:32:56.039 And then Hunter, So I've got a twenty two, I've 1903 01:32:56.079 --> 01:33:01.000 got three to eight, and then I've got a three 1904 01:33:01.079 --> 01:33:04.119 hundred wind bag. It's actually a Mouser M twelve three 1905 01:33:04.159 --> 01:33:08.039 hundred wind mag mans. Oh so nice a. I practically 1906 01:33:08.079 --> 01:33:10.399 stole that thing too, because I got it before everything 1907 01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:13.119 went crazy as far as pricing. I think I got 1908 01:33:13.119 --> 01:33:15.640 that Mauser for like nine hundred dollars and now you 1909 01:33:15.640 --> 01:33:17.720 can't even get that model anymore. They stopped making them, 1910 01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:19.439 but the last I saw they were like thirty five 1911 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.880 hundred dollars. Oh gosh. Uh the one I'd tell you 1912 01:33:23.239 --> 01:33:25.720 I am not a I am not a rearview mirror guy. 1913 01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:29.880 When it comes to life and regrets. I do have one, though, 1914 01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:32.479 at least maybe a handful. But this is one of them. 1915 01:33:33.159 --> 01:33:35.760 I had bought from a guy who was doing like 1916 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:39.319 security for Brinks and they had to buy their own guns, 1917 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.680 and I had bought from him. He was carrying a 1918 01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:47.399 Colt King Kobra three fifty seven and I love that gun. 1919 01:33:47.560 --> 01:33:49.520 It was so nice. And they stopped making them for 1920 01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:51.640 a long time, so the price went way up and 1921 01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:55.079 they're still expensive. And I sold it, and I wish 1922 01:33:55.119 --> 01:33:58.159 I would have never sold that gun. Yeah, but I 1923 01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:00.640 will share I will share another fun story. I'll probably 1924 01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:02.000 edit a lot of this out, but it's just a 1925 01:34:02.079 --> 01:34:05.359 fun story. While we're talking. Keep all of it. Uh yeah, yeah, 1926 01:34:05.399 --> 01:34:07.239 we'll see how it all plays out. But I had 1927 01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:09.600 taken it, and this because of the show you. I wasn't 1928 01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:11.359 always the best husband either for my ex wife, So 1929 01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:13.880 to defend her a little bit in this particular story, 1930 01:34:14.840 --> 01:34:18.239 I had convinced after haranguing her for however long, I 1931 01:34:18.279 --> 01:34:20.159 convinced her to go the range with me. So she 1932 01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:21.880 goes to the range and I have this three fifty 1933 01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:25.520 seven And for anybody that has three fifty seven, they'll 1934 01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:27.279 know that you can squeeze thirty eight rounds through it 1935 01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:29.199 kind of keep it cheaper when you're target shooting, right. 1936 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:32.119 So I had been firing thirty eight rounds through this 1937 01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:36.680 thing and I hit her with full life I did. 1938 01:34:37.079 --> 01:34:39.880 It was so stupid and hindsight, it was stupid, dangerous 1939 01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:42.000 and it was, but it was hilarious because I had 1940 01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.840 probably put two hundred rounds through this of thirty eight 1941 01:34:44.880 --> 01:34:47.000 through this gun, and I didn't do any kind of 1942 01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:49.199 plus anything, So it was just rigga thirty eight. The 1943 01:34:49.199 --> 01:34:50.920 gun's really heavy, so it's like butter coming out of 1944 01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:52.920 the end, right, I mean, it's like not moving at all. 1945 01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:55.399 And she's got hearing protection on the whole nine. So 1946 01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:56.800 she's like, I'm like, you see, it's not bad. You 1947 01:34:56.840 --> 01:34:58.880 want to try it out? And she's like yeah, And 1948 01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:00.880 I did. Man, I loved it up with hot three 1949 01:35:00.960 --> 01:35:03.279 fifty seven rounds and gave it to her. All the 1950 01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:05.359 powder had built up, you know, because of all the 1951 01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:07.720 thirty eight rounds, and so when that three fifty seven 1952 01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:10.239 round went off and it caught all that excess powder, 1953 01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:13.119 the gout of flame that came out of the cylinders 1954 01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:16.279 in the barrel, I mean, it was just boom. And 1955 01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:18.600 of course, you know, she's rocking and she's freaking out. 1956 01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:21.119 She's swinging the gun every which direction, and

I'm like, well, 1957 01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:23.239 when I'm grabbing her, you know, try to get her down, 1958 01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:26.359 you know, and everything as far as her hand. So yeah, 1959 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:28.000 that was a good example of how I wasn't always 1960 01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:29.279 the best husband back in the day, but I was 1961 01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:31.119 young and stupid, so I know it's about would we 1962 01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:31.960 do that to my wife? Now? 1963 01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:34.600 I think that, So there prank the better prank to 1964 01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:36.479 do with that. There's a bunch of these videos online. 1965 01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:39.000 They're just amazing. But a dude will take his girlfriend 1966 01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:42.640 shooting and he loads her magazine with blanks and then 1967 01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:43.640 she can't hit anything. 1968 01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:47.960 Oh that's mean. So that would make my That would 1969 01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:51.239 make my wife so mad because she is she's so funny, 1970 01:35:51.239 --> 01:35:54.359 because she's my wife now, uber competitive man, uber competitive. 1971 01:35:54.439 --> 01:35:57.000 In certain situations, you would never know it talking to 1972 01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:59.399 her because she's very quiet and just kind of out mannered, 1973 01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:02.800 but you get her in any kind of competitive situation 1974 01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:07.760 like that, that would that would drive her insane. That 1975 01:36:07.800 --> 01:36:09.920 she was that she felt like she was not hitting 1976 01:36:09.920 --> 01:36:11.520 the target and not doing well. 1977 01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:14.359 So that would drive me insane too. Yeah, right immediately, 1978 01:36:14.439 --> 01:36:15.319 what's wrong with this gun? 1979 01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:18.439 Yeah? Absolutely, I feel you all the way. Well again, brother, 1980 01:36:18.479 --> 01:36:20.319 I appreciate you coming on. Can I ask one thing 1981 01:36:20.319 --> 01:36:22.000 for you before we go? Will you minds praying us 1982 01:36:22.039 --> 01:36:26.239 out today? Uh? So? I don't pray for an audience ever. 1983 01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:29.279 I okay that that's like just a personal conviction that 1984 01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:31.760 when people are okay with that, they can. But whenever 1985 01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:34.039 I'm doing it, I I focus too much on what 1986 01:36:34.079 --> 01:36:35.880 I'm saying for the sake of an audience, so I 1987 01:36:35.880 --> 01:36:39.279 feel like I'm being performative. So okay, Matthew six, I 1988 01:36:39.399 --> 01:36:44.399 take very seriously, and I just at this current stage 1989 01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:46.840 in my life heart postures just not in the right 1990 01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:49.039 position to do that because I'll focus more on what 1991 01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:51.039 people are hearing rather than what I'm actually saying. 1992 01:36:51.079 --> 01:36:53.560 To God, Hey, no problem, do you mind if I 1993 01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:57.279 pray us out? Go ahead? Okay. I appreciate you being 1994 01:36:57.319 --> 01:36:59.359 honest with me, Thank you, and I'll totally honor that 1995 01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:02.119 all day. So, Father God, first of all, just thank 1996 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:03.319 you for my brother here. It has been such a 1997 01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:05.560 great talk today, so great to have him on and 1998 01:37:05.680 --> 01:37:07.439 just meet him and get to talk to him, get 1999 01:37:07.439 --> 01:37:09.560 to know him, get to know his heart, and tap 2000 01:37:09.560 --> 01:37:11.840 into his knowledge that you have given to him. You've 2001 01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:16.000 opened up avenues for him to go down and explore 2002 01:37:16.039 --> 01:37:18.159 and experience, and I can just tell there's so many 2003 01:37:18.199 --> 01:37:19.720 more that you are going to take him down. And 2004 01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:21.399 I can't wait to check back in with him and 2005 01:37:21.439 --> 01:37:24.079 see the things that he's going to be experiencing and 2006 01:37:24.119 --> 01:37:26.520 the new revelations that he is going to have, and 2007 01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:27.880 maybe we're going to have some here in just a 2008 01:37:27.880 --> 01:37:30.039 minute we get off off the call. But whatever that 2009 01:37:30.079 --> 01:37:32.720 looks like in the future, I continue to lift him 2010 01:37:32.760 --> 01:37:34.199 up to you, Lord, and I just ask that you 2011 01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:37.000 bless him, watch over him, protect him, keep him. But ultimately, 2012 01:37:37.039 --> 01:37:40.319 anybody that's listening to this, hopefully this resonated with some 2013 01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:42.359 hearts out there. Lord, I just pray that you put 2014 01:37:42.399 --> 01:37:44.880 it in front of whoever needs to hear it, and 2015 01:37:44.920 --> 01:37:47.520 hopefully parts of this message resonated with him, even though 2016 01:37:47.640 --> 01:37:49.680 may may have been hard to hear, there may have 2017 01:37:49.680 --> 01:37:52.199 been some belief systems that were challenged today, Lord, But 2018 01:37:52.279 --> 01:37:55.319 ultimately I just asked that you use that to prick 2019 01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:58.399 the heart and ultimately do what we did, which is 2020 01:37:58.479 --> 01:38:00.880 to strip away all the things the world that are 2021 01:38:00.920 --> 01:38:03.520 taught to us and all the things that are said 2022 01:38:03.600 --> 01:38:08.279 what we should believe, and just ultimately seek you completely, raw, unfiltered, 2023 01:38:08.319 --> 01:38:10.600 and get into your word and just ask for you 2024 01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:14.079 to reveal yourself to them. I asked you continue to 2025 01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:16.600 do that for us, Lord, as we continue to grow 2026 01:38:16.640 --> 01:38:18.399 and learn more about you every day. Help us to 2027 01:38:18.399 --> 01:38:20.920 not be haughty in our own eyes, I think, as 2028 01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:22.920 the way Scripture says it. But help us to always 2029 01:38:22.920 --> 01:38:25.560 be mindful. Help us to sharpen one another as iron 2030 01:38:25.560 --> 01:38:28.039 sharpen's iron, just as my brother helps sharpen me today, 2031 01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:30.199 Help me to do the same for him as we 2032 01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:34.279 continue our discussion all air and in the future. So ultimately, 2033 01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:36.479 we just lift you up because we just love you, 2034 01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:38.079 and we just thank you so much for what you 2035 01:38:38.199 --> 01:38:40.199 do for us on a daily basis, what you've done 2036 01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:41.880 for us, and what you are going to continue to 2037 01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:45.800 do for us in regards to our salvation, in regards 2038 01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:49.279 to our eternity with you, Lord, what a wonderful day. 2039 01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:52.279 It'll be when we're all there together. So we just 2040 01:38:52.319 --> 01:38:53.800 lift all these things up to you in honor and 2041 01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:57.600 glory and hopefully you've been well pleased today with your servants. 2042 01:38:57.640 --> 01:39:00.600 Thank you for being with us during this discussion. Ultimately 2043 01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:05.840 we just ask and say all these things and Jesus name, Amen, Amen, 2044 01:39:06.720 --> 01:39:09.000 Thanks my friend. I'll hit stop, but don't feel like 2045 01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:13.159 you got to go anywhere, so just stay tuned. Well, Hey, warriors, 2046 01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:15.920 if this episode challenged you, encouraged you, or helped you 2047 01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:17.920 see the bottle more clearly, I'd love for you to 2048 01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:20.439 join us on Patreon. You can join for free and 2049 01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:23.439 stay connected with the community, or become a premium member 2050 01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:28.640 to get exclusive episodes, early access, ad free content, warrior briefings, 2051 01:39:28.760 --> 01:39:31.399 and deeper dives that you can't get on the public feed. 2052 01:39:31.600 --> 01:39:34.079 Find us on the Patreon app or head to patreon 2053 01:39:34.119 --> 01:39:36.760 dot com. 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