Full Transcript for Flashback

every first contact rule, uh, disregard the prime directive, start blowing shit up, shooting all the make sure all the K's on her dad. 00:05:07.680 --> 00:05:15.680 Um just wear wear two phasers, one on each hip. 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:19.040 She could be the sheriff of the Delta Quadrant. 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:24.800 Uh I was just like, why are you why are you just waxing romantic about it? 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:25.680 Just go do that. 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:26.079 Do it. 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:26.720 Just do it. 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:27.279 Yeah. 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:28.319 Fair. 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.560 What would Kirk do? 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:31.360 God. 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:32.240 Wow. 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.639 This would be so different. 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:36.720 If Kirk were captain. 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:41.920 All of the trouble, all the trouble that Tom gets into would probably be Kirk instead. 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:44.800 First of all, so so true. 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:46.959 Okay, well, let's get into it. 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:57.839 So this episode was written by Brannon Braga and directed by David Livingston, both super frequent directors, writers, showrunners on the show. 00:05:58.000 --> 00:05:58.240 Yep. 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:13.839 When Tuvok begins to suffer from mental breakdowns triggered by a suppressed memory, a mind mouth with Janeway takes him back to his tour of duty with Captain Sulu aboard the USS Excelsior. 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:22.959 That was crazy too, that a suppressed memory in a Vulcan, at least they implied this, could kill them. 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:23.920 Yeah. 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:25.439 Yeah. 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:26.480 Wild. 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:27.680 I don't even know how to do that. 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:29.920 I don't even know what to say about that. 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:34.800 I guess it's unusual for a Vulcan to repress a memory. 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:41.279 They probably really focus on processing those things and not feeling emotions about them. 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:53.360 Yeah, it was interesting to like their psychology is so much stronger that it becomes much more dangerous for memories and psychological things. 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.399 They it it affects them more physically, I guess. 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:57.360 Yeah. 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:01.920 Yeah, it was actually pretty scary there for a while. 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:11.360 Two Hawk's brain was deteriorating, and I'm not actually sure what level he was at when we finished this episode. 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:17.199 There were several minutes where the doctor was like, he'll be brain dead in 20 minutes. 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:22.399 Like how much damage did the episode so fast? 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:23.519 Right. 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:33.759 We went from like we went from He's five minutes from death to is the memory a little girl to dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:39.279 I was like, wait, what how we're never gonna speak about it again, I'm sure of it. 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:39.839 No. 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:43.600 Yeah, that was that was super interesting. 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:49.519 Did you notice that the lenses and the angles were so different? 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:53.439 Between his flashbacks and the rest of the show. 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:55.439 In this this whole episode. 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.399 So No, I sure didn't. 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:04.639 I did notice it, and then I listened to I listened to Delta Flyers. 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:14.480 And they were saying that David Livingston really enjoyed these unique camera angles. 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:20.319 And Robbie McNeil was talking about this because he's a director himself now. 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:39.200 And he was saying he thought it was really, really interesting that whenever David Livingston would direct, he was the only director that worked on the show that would order custom lenses for a particular episode and have these completely different angles to what was typical. 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:53.679 And you definitely notice it with the whenever TV gets the flashback and starts to have a seizure, it's like right up in his face and it's convex or fisheye-ish. 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:55.279 Fish eyed a little bit, yeah. 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:55.919 Yeah. 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:57.679 Anyway, I thought that was interesting. 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:01.759 I noticed it, and then when he pointed it out, it was really obvious. 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:06.559 Yeah, I only I only saw that now that you're saying it. 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:11.679 Only saw it while Tuvok was experiencing those flashbacks. 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:17.840 But it was interesting that he had a scene where he's stumbling through the halls of the ship. 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:26.480 It was very similar to Jane Way when she was stumbling through the halls of the ship, where she was like seeing that little girl from the holodeck. 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:34.879 And I wondered if that was the same director or similar lenses or whatever, because it was very, it had a very similar feel. 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:49.519 Is it bad that every time I saw the flashback of the little girl, I laughed because it's just the the video is of the little girl and when when she slips out of the hand, it's like that. 00:09:49.600 --> 00:10:01.440 Um if you've ever seen Cliffhanger with Sylvester Sallone at the beginning of that movie, his friend's girlfriend, he's like holding onto her and she slips out of his grasp and is like falls down. 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:10.320 But this was like you took the video cropped around her body with that view looking down. 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:16.240 You took that and then just slowly shrunk the image. 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:16.559 Yes. 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:20.480 So she's like just like against a green screen clip. 00:10:20.960 -->

00:10:21.360 Yeah. 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:25.039 It was it was very weird. 00:10:25.440 --> 00:10:30.080 And I it was a memory and not even a real one, apparently. 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:45.200 But even at the end, when it was switching through all of these people being on the other end of holding this girl's hand, I thought that might be why half of it was a little bit degraded when we were seeing her falling. 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:48.720 But it yeah, it wasn't impressive. 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.759 Her falling into that that smoke was terrible. 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:52.799 It was yeah. 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:55.919 Okay, I need to find something really fast. 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.639 Uh because this is the other thing it reminded me of. 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:04.320 I'm glad we have more control in here over the audio than I did in Camtasia. 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:08.879 Because I feel like maybe I can remove some car beeps or something. 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:13.600 It's fun when I hear the car beats, it's like beep, beep, beep. 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:14.240 Uh-huh. 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:18.000 Yeah, because they're not, they don't honk because they're mad at each other. 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:24.960 They honk because I'm going through an intersection, or hi, you're another of the same car as me, or literally anything. 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:26.399 They're just talking to each other. 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:27.279 All right. 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.519 So the episode. 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:31.679 We've basically covered the whole episode. 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:32.879 Thank you for joining us today. 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:33.519 Yeah, right. 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:40.639 Uh, we'll be watching episode three, uh, season three next week on the voices. 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:42.000 Bye. 00:11:42.960 --> 00:12:08.559 Um I don't so I don't even know what is worth covering outside of it can go, it's probably gonna be fast, but it starts out with a scene which we've seen before, which is Neelix annoying Tuvok uh and using food and drink that he has concocted as a way to pressure. 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:14.240 He's basically pressuring Tuvok to like, here, taste this crazy drink I made, taste this crazy food I made. 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:20.320 And Tuvok's so not into it, and honestly, it's mean to him. 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:22.559 He's just being realistic. 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:27.919 And yes, he's a little dry, but he's like, yeah, normally when you do this, it sucks. 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:29.200 Yeah. 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:39.279 Uh I thought it was gonna be like the lemonade that Neelix serves him that'll trigger some allergic reaction or something, right? 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.240 Yeah, he he drinks it and he says impressive. 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:46.240 And I was just waiting him for him to be impressively acidic. 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:49.919 This is so bad, I can feel a hole burning in my stomach or some shit. 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:50.480 But he doesn't. 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:58.320 He just says, Well, he opened it with like Neelix was like, Well, Insign Jane had this and really loved it. 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:06.639 And he's like, Ensign Jane is a bolerian, and their digestive system can handle sulfuric acid. 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:11.679 Yeah, she has a coating on her tongue that would let her drink anything. 00:13:12.399 --> 00:13:14.240 Okay, but why just the tongue? 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:18.159 If it got bad, is the coating everywhere, not just on the tongue? 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.000 Or is the coating everywhere? 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:28.240 I would think is it fine after you after it would probably be like the tongue is fine, but it burns, it burns your the rest of your body. 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:30.559 That's fair, that's fair. 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.200 You'd be nitpicking it a little too much. 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:38.320 So we come across an anomaly. 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:54.879 It's a class 17 nebula, which if we look up class 17 nebula, it is a type of nebula containing hydrogen and helium, and is considered gaseous, gaseous. 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:55.840 Gaseous. 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:05.600 It is and in goat in in this universe anyway, it also contains Oh, I wrote it down. 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:07.519 Ceruleum. 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:12.000 Ceruleum Thanks. 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:17.279 And that's that's Terry winning Who Wants to be a Millionaire. 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.240 Woohoo! Yeah, because I phoned a friend. 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:25.759 But that's important because ceruleum can be used for powering so much shit. 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:29.679 Everyone on the ship is like clamoring to get some of this ceruleum. 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:30.480 Yes. 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:43.039 And as we find out, it's also quite similar in composition to a class 11 Azure Nebula, which we all know that those types of nebulas are very similar. 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:43.840 Yeah. 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:47.919 It's the nebula they come across in the flashback. 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.240 Yeah, the the moment that Tuvok looks at this nebula, he starts to have some kind of reaction. 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.200 And it's like a seizure, essentially. 00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:58.879 Like a standing seizure. 00:14:59.279 --> 00:14:59.600 Right. 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:05.039 His fingers go like rigid and start twitching, and he's like obviously very uncomfortable. 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:08.080 And Janeway notices and asks if he's he's okay. 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:09.840 And he's like, I'm not sure. 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.039 I'm experiencing dizziness and disorientation. 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.320 So he heads to Sick Bay. 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:26.559 He well, and when he's walking to Sick Bay, that's when he has the first vision that is repeated like an unnecessary amount of times throughout the episode. 00:15:26.879 -->

00:15:37.279 Just of this him as a boy holding this girl's hand off a cliff, and she slips out of his hand and falls to her death. 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:43.840 Um and she looks human and she's calling his name, like pre please save me. 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:53.840 Yeah, it looks like a scene from Little House on the Prairie where, you know, like she's wearing a little brown canvas dress basically. 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:59.120 And you know, a little house on the prairie where they're all dangling off of cliffs. 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:01.360 Have you not seen that show? 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:06.000 I've seen three episodes, and I'm actually wouldn't be surprised if that does happen. 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.399 Man, some crazy stuff happens in that show. 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:17.360 I watched last time I watched it, I was a kid, but people get crushed by wagons and horses and fall off cliffs. 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:26.559 Is that the show where the father figure was a doctor, or have I just watched a completely other similar show? 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.559 Uh, the town doctor was a friend. 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.600 The father figure was worked at a lumber mill. 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:34.799 Yeah, okay. 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:42.159 Well, I can't remember any of that, so I cannot confirm, nor did I got it. 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:49.919 So the doctor puts a neurocortical monitor on his brain to monitor him. 00:16:50.080 --> 00:17:00.879 He says it could be, he actually says it could be a repressed memory, which I thought was interesting that that was one of the first things he thought it might be. 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.639 And he lists a couple of things. 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.720 He says it could be a hallucination, telepathic communication. 00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:09.279 But yes, repressed memory is in there. 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:20.480 And he says basically, if you were human, Tuvok, I would say that you've had a panic attack, which Tuvok pushes back against because he is indeed not a human. 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:30.799 Well, besides the things that the doctor lists that might be wrong, Janeway also is like, it could also be the nebula, because this happened as soon as we came into contact with the nebula. 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:32.799 So we'll look at that also. 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:33.920 Yep. 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:40.400 And almost immediately, Tuval hit with this repressed memory once again. 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:50.079 So they decide to do a mind meld with Captain Janeway, as typically this would be done with a close family member. 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:57.680 And since she's the closest person to him, not physically, just close close friends. 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:58.720 Um emotionally. 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.400 I mean, when they're having this conversation, she is the closest to him, literally. 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:04.880 But yeah, they have to do that. 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.119 This is where the doctor, yeah, yeah. 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:15.200 They trust each other, but this is where the doctor starts talking about the what this is in Vulcan medicine. 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.880 And I could something like Telekins Schism. 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:20.640 Schism. 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:21.839 There we go. 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:22.960 That spelled weird. 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:25.279 Sorry, can you say that one more time? 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:27.440 Telekins schism. 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.359 I'm fairly certain on that. 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:42.640 But this is what's medically recommended is that they do a mind meld with someone in the family, and the two of them together try to bring the repressed memory into the conscious mind. 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:49.200 Because if they don't do this and the person keeps fighting the conscious memory, it causes literal brain damage. 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:50.000 Yeah. 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:53.039 Physical damage to his brain. 00:18:53.359 --> 00:19:04.960 So they do this mind meld and are transported onto the bridge of the USS Excelsior 80 years in the past. 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:09.599 And which has nothing to do with this flashback we've been seeing with this little girl. 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:10.799 Nothing to do at all. 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:14.319 And I was like, what is I was very jarring. 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:18.160 I was like, this is so cool to see the set. 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:28.640 It's so I loved how different the sets are for the movies and then the the newer shows. 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:34.880 TNG and Voyager also have they both have their own feels. 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:40.480 If anything, Voyager feels like a hybrid between TNG in the movie sets. 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:41.119 Sure. 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:49.359 Because it it has more of a it it has the the railings and the step-ups. 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:51.359 And T and G didn't have that. 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:53.039 So I thought that was cool. 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.279 Well, it's really like the first person we see basically is Sulu. 00:19:57.519 --> 00:19:59.680 Yeah, she says Damn's report. 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.799 Just really cool to just see him all of a sudden when I was not expecting him. 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.839 Well, and it was such a striking angle. 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:12.000 It almost looks like I I took a screenshot and almost looks like a portrait. 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:13.200 That is true. 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:20.000 Yeah, now that you mention it, all of the scenes with Sulu in them were very they were shot very different, like you were saying. 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.640 This is that shot of him. 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.079 Wow. 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:28.000 Isn't that crazy? 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.240 Like he's a it's like he's a statue. 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:31.119 Yeah. 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:37.039 It's like down below looking up at his chin, and it's like backlit

with smoke. 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:40.079 Um it's just really cool. 00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:40.880 Yeah. 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:47.440 So that was like, oh my god, what we haven't seen Sulu in anything since the movies. 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.599 He wasn't in TNG, I don't think. 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:56.079 And so they're basically they've been attacked by Klingons or something, right? 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.480 And Tuvok is a young science officer. 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.039 Is he a a lieutenant? 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:04.720 He's what or an ensign. 00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:05.519 He's an ensign. 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:07.680 I think he's below ensign. 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:12.720 I don't know what that is, but no, he no, he's not below ensign. 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:13.599 I don't think he is. 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:20.079 I just feel like they had a conversation with some other lady who was an ensign, and I don't know. 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:21.279 Uh yes. 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:24.319 So sorry, I'm finding her name. 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.400 That was Nurse Chapel from the original series. 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:31.599 Um I did not recognize her. 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:32.880 I feel bad. 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:34.559 I thought she was. 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:36.720 This might just sound bad. 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:43.039 Her acting was pretty bad, so I assumed there was another reason for her to be in the episode. 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:47.440 I definitely assumed that she was a cameo, but I couldn't place her. 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:50.000 Her acting was incredibly stiff. 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:52.720 So I was like, hmm, this is odd. 00:21:53.119 --> 00:22:06.960 I they're like putting a lot of emphasis on this actress that isn't good at acting, and she's Like she's also older and I was just like, I'm really curious what the what the cameo is. 00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:10.000 And and it was cool. 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:11.680 She let's see. 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:25.839 Yeah, we have a scene with the two of them because Chuvak is making tea to bring to Sulu and she's like basically accuses him of sucking up to Sulu, and he's just like, that was never my intention. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:26.880 I would never. 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.000 And she's like, sure. 00:22:31.359 --> 00:22:32.480 Whatever you say. 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:37.839 But then Jane Wei is like, you never brought me tea to VA. 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:39.680 I thought that was pretty funny. 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:44.799 She was keeping it lighthearted even though they're in the middle of some crazy shit. 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:46.240 Oh, was I wrong? 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:51.680 Oh I thought it because they talked about it in um Delta Flyers? 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:53.200 Delta Flyers. 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:56.240 But I don't know if it was. 00:22:56.400 --> 00:22:57.599 Now I'm confused. 00:22:57.839 --> 00:22:59.759 Maybe she was another character. 00:23:00.079 -->

00:23:00.720 I don't know. 00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:04.000 Well, she doesn't do a whole lot in this episode. 00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:05.680 No, she's kind of like there. 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:07.279 Just there. 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:08.079 Yeah. 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.640 They tried to get the actress that played Ahura in it, though. 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:17.680 Well, that would have been very interesting. 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:26.079 Yeah, so they're on the bridge and basically no one can see no one can see Janeway. 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:28.000 So Only too far. 00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:42.079 Well, I thought it was strange that there was no urgency or weight to Tuvok is going to die, basically, but it doesn't feel that way. 00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:46.640 Like and Yeah, they're just viewing his memory. 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:55.119 And what I thought was I I got a little confused because Tuvok would interact like he was the memory. 00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:56.720 He would interact with someone. 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:56.960 Yeah. 00:23:57.200 --> 00:23:58.319 Like he was the memory. 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:02.240 Who's gonna remember what they were doing on a day 80 years ago? 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:11.440 Um it was very interesting how they how they had Tuvok come in and out of the scene that is his memory. 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:12.000 Yeah. 00:24:12.240 --> 00:24:17.039 He'd be like, Lieutenant, whatever, get away from your console. 00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:20.240 There's a plasma buildup, and they have this conversation. 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:29.839 They're serving together, but then he'll turn to Janeway and have a completely normal conversation with Janeway about, yeah, and this was happening at this point. 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.920 So I I was like, it was a little how how do you do that? 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:34.960 How does that work? 00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:45.599 Well, yeah, I thought it was cool because I I didn't understand what the direction was there, but I was like, somebody had to somebody had to give direction on how they did this. 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.519 And I'm just, it's cool that they made a decision and did it. 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:54.799 I don't know what they were going for, but they I I did recognize that they had to make that choice. 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:55.920 And it worked. 00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:57.119 It worked for me. 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:01.440 I didn't, I wasn't I just tried not to think about it too far. 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:07.119 Apparently it was some of the bridge, the other bridge created Yeah. 00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:14.400 Well, and I don't know, they I feel like they could have gone a couple different ways and they chose to do both at once, right? 00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:25.599 Yes, they did, but I don't know how else you get Janeway in there because Janeway's role was that she is supposed to be his Pallora, I think he calls it, like his guide. 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:31.839 So she's supposed

to keep in focus, get them to this memory, and and bring it back. 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.440 And so maybe he's living his memory. 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:43.119 Like he is the memory, but then when she interacts with him, he's pulled out of it a little bit. 00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:44.720 Yeah, yeah. 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:46.720 It did feel like that. 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.359 And so she's like, Why are we here? 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:53.039 This is not the memory that we were trying to get to. 00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:56.000 What does this have to do with the memory? 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:04.559 And the only thing that he can come up with is two days earlier we we came across a gaseous anomaly, just like we did on Voyager. 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:10.640 But that that ties these two things together, but it doesn't tie the falling girl in. 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:11.519 Yeah. 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:17.519 I'm they never just spoiler, they never explain the fallen girl. 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:26.480 They just say that the virus was using the memory of the fallen girl as a way to root itself in memory engrams, basically. 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:27.440 Yeah. 00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:34.240 They they said that it had to use a memory that was traumatic enough that most people would try to repress it. 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.200 And this is just what that was. 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:40.079 We don't know where it came from or if it's real. 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:41.119 No idea. 00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:43.599 Okay, so I was mistaken. 00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:48.559 It's not, it's not Nurse Chapel as a character. 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.839 Her character name, she did play a character in TNG and the movies. 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.079 Her character name was Yeoman Janice Rand. 00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:03.039 And she's very, very, very pretty, very striking. 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:07.359 And she's a very good-looking older woman. 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:24.880 But uh in 1966, that's that's her first role in Star Trek, and then she was um the motion picture, Star Trek III, Search for Spock, Star Trek 4, Voyage Home, and Star Trek 6, The Undiscovered Country. 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:28.079 I feel like I should have recognized her that. 00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:30.799 It's been a while since I watched those movies. 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:36.880 I feel like after seeing this set, though, I really want to watch the movies again. 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:48.000 And they also brought in some other cast extra extras slash recurring extras from the movies. 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.640 The guy that gets his face burned off. 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.119 He's a recurring character from the movies. 00:27:55.359 --> 00:28:00.160 The guy with the Russian accent, Boris, is recurring. 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:06.640 And I was thinking the same thing because the Klingon, like it seemed like they had history. 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.160 Some history. 00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:08.799

Yeah. 00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.519 But I don't see anything about that actor. 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.039 So maybe the character is the same, but the actor is different. 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:16.960 Uh yeah, that could be. 00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:22.000 I don't I don't see anything about the Klingon um what I'm reading right now. 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.400 So interesting. 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:29.119 Yeah, I assume the same thing, just because he he and Sulu seemed to know each other. 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.920 So I was like, oh, this must be another callback. 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:42.799 But what a fun thing to be brought in six or seven years after the last Star Trek original cast movie, and we'll get a walk that set and everything. 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.240 There's some really cool behind the scenes photos for this one. 00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:47.519 We'll have to post. 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:48.799 Yeah. 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:50.160 Let's see. 00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:53.759 There's I want to find out about the set. 00:28:54.400 --> 00:29:06.480 Janeway mentions at one point that she didn't know that this was a uh that this was a post that Tuvok had held because it wasn't in his service record, which I thought was interesting. 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:13.200 Oh, this is my this is my beyond beyond first Star Trek post. 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:20.480 This is the the post before I left for 50 years and then came back, which is just crazy. 00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:21.599 What a crazy thing. 00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:22.400 Nuts. 00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:28.240 Man, he needs to live like yeah, multiple careers, multiple lives. 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:29.440 Yeah. 00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:33.279 His parents wanted him to go into Starfleet. 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:34.240 So he did. 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:40.319 And he was very headstrong, Vulcan, really did not enjoy being around humans. 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:47.119 And there's that's clear in some of the flashback interactions he has with one of the crew members. 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.400 And yeah, just think he doesn't understand them. 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.279 Yeah, but he's annoyed by them. 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:59.920 He's also annoyed by them in present day, but in a a less empathetic way. 00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:06.720 And so he left for 50 years to do colonar and purge himself of emotions. 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:11.920 And then he decided to join Starfleet again. 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:30.160 Yeah, and in that time he married and had his kids, and that's what I guess made him decide to go back to Starfleet was starting to raise children and realize how his parents had felt about him as a child and wanting the best for him, and that he should basically reconsider Starfleet. 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.720 So, okay, I did find another fun deep dive. 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.519 So I did find the Klingon. 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:42.720 The actor's name is Michael and Sarah. 00:30:43.440

--> 00:30:52.960 And he previously played King in both the original series third season episode, Day of the Dove. 00:30:53.839 --> 00:31:00.799 And this was back when the Klingons had hair and just really crazy eyebrows and lots of blackface. 00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:02.880 So that's a crazy image to see. 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:08.880 And then he also reprises his role in uh the second season of Deep Space Nine. 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:09.839 Yeah. 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.079 So that's interesting. 00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:13.279 Mm-hmm. 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:15.039 Okay, the set. 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:28.640 So the they wanted the same bridge configuration as Star Trek 6, but the the production designers literally rebuilt the bridge. 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:30.160 Wow. 00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:31.680 Which is crazy. 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:40.720 He said the script was cool, but usually you have three months to build the bridge and half a million dollars. 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:41.680 Yeah. 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:49.359 Um, but they didn't have any of that, and it's also already been seen by millions of people in movies. 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:54.400 So what they did, it took them 12 weeks. 00:31:54.720 --> 00:32:01.920 They used the entire art department construction and production departments for 12 weeks. 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:04.319 Oh my gosh, all hands on deck. 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:11.839 Um, they did a 300 and a 60 degree set. 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:18.160 So it's not the whole set that's like pieces, it's like half a set. 00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:26.720 Um a few walls were blue screened to get the whole look, which I didn't notice, so good job. 00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:27.359 No. 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:37.200 And I also feel like a lot of the time we don't have a full 360-degree view of the bridge. 00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:39.039 So I wouldn't have noticed. 00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.480 So I think they focus detail on certain parts of it. 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:52.640 I I also I'm impressed because I assumed that they had a set to work with already because the detail was all the detail was awesome. 00:32:52.880 --> 00:33:04.559 All the like 80s style tube television screens that they used as consoles were all like it all looked up to spec to me. 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:05.759 Oh, yeah. 00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:07.599 No, it it looked really good. 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:10.079 I'm I'm also surprised by that. 00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:23.920 They uh we get the story of what happened during this time in Two Vox Life, which is like a third story that's happening in this episode, which is a lot. 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.519 Uh, but they all kind of flow together though, pretty well. 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:28.160 Yeah, I thought. 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:29.440 Yes, yes. 00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:34.799 The Klingon Moon Fraxis exploded. 00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:47.279 And two days later, there were two Starfleet officers that were accused of murdering a Klingon Chancellor, and we know these two Starfleet officers, that is Kirk and McCoy. 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:55.759 And Sulu was helping on rescuing them because they were taken to the Klingon homeworld to stand trial. 00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:58.160 And so Sulu was like, no, we're gonna go. 00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:59.200 We're gonna go get them. 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.680 And Tuvok disagreed. 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.920 He was like, This is not our mission, this breaks laws. 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:10.639 We could be starting something with the Klingons, and I feel I have to bring it up. 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.480 But of course, he's like, he's nobody on this ship. 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:28.559 But Sulu does tell him he's absolutely right, and also that he's absolutely wrong, and he just doesn't have the experience to understand why Sulu needs to try and rescue these guys. 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:33.440 He's young the rescue and oh my god, it was experienced. 00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.320 It was so cool to be. 00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:46.079 I I wish I found myself just wishing that we weren't because the flashback part with a girl I thought was just so bizarre. 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.400 Like, and I'm like, I wish we could just live this. 00:34:50.559 --> 00:35:00.559 It felt like there was 30 minutes of extra, extra Star Trek the um oh god, what's the movie called? 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:01.760 Something country. 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:04.000 Oh Star Trek the Undiscovered Country. 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:09.920 So I I felt like it was basically 30 minutes of bonus material for Star Trek The Undiscovered Country. 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:12.559 Yeah, actually that, yeah. 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:18.719 And I'm like, why can't we just live in this and see Sulu just do crazy shit for yeah? 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:24.880 I I like that it ties to Voc into that, but the the rest of it I just didn't care about. 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.679 Yeah, why do we have to keep talking about this girl who fell off a cliff that's like remember? 00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.280 Yeah, it was seated in this like really cool world. 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:36.480 And the set was so cool. 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:41.360 And having uh this connection to the old cast was really cool. 00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:49.679 I don't know, it was it was so fun, and then the plot tying it together was so bizarre. 00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:57.840 Yeah, the excuse they had to come up with in order to show this was just like, hey, we didn't need this. 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:03.519 We would have been on board if Tuvok's just like, oh, I remember, and then this was the whole episode. 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:04.480 That would be fine. 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.199 Seriously, I feel like that that's totally acceptable to fans. 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:10.400 Just yeah. 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:25.840 Tuvok falls asleep, lives 40 minutes of his past life during Star Trek The Undiscovered Country, wakes up at the

end to Jane Way coming in, being like, Why did you oversleep your shift or something dumb? 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.239 And then it's like goes to credits. 00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:33.360 I I would have been, I would have like, I'm not gonna lie, I know this sounds so dumb. 00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:37.199 I would have given that episode five stars. 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:38.719 I'm like, that's perfect. 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.000 It it would have been better than this episode, absolutely. 00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.920 At least they would have been realistic about what they were trying to do here. 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:47.280 It yeah. 00:36:47.599 --> 00:37:06.159 But the the so they're trying to figure out what this memory has to do with the little girl, why it's coming up, and apparently part of Sulu's rescue mission was that they were gonna go through this nebula to try and get to the Klingon Homeworld and it would hide them. 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:11.599 So that's one connection, but that still doesn't totally do it. 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:23.519 But once they see the nebula in the flashback, then flashbackception, Tuvok sees the little girl again, and this time Janeway sees it too. 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:31.679 And they This is where you're like, oh, okay, Janeway is there to notice things, yeah, to help. 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:32.960 That's why she's there. 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:39.840 Cause this whole time I'm like, I'm still, I still don't understand why Janeway needed to be here. 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.199 We're okay, we're in a flashback, and that's more interesting than everything else. 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:50.320 And then we're having this girl thing happen, but why is she there? 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.719 She can't even see any of it. 00:37:53.039 --> 00:38:02.320 But then she's able to see it, but she only sees it because he's dying and they're stuck in a mind meld together now. 00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:03.679 They can't break free of it. 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.360 So now she's able to see his right. 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.679 He's able to see his flashback. 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:14.800 And then also everyone else can see her now. 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.920 Yeah, some malfunctions in his brain. 00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:21.280 The doctor's freaking out, saying he's getting brain damage. 00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.800 He can't get the two of them out of the this mind meld. 00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:29.119 And suddenly Sulu's like, who the hell is this woman on my bridge? 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:42.239 So then we have to have this little side quest where they knock out this other woman and take her clothing so that Jane Wake can blend in to Tuvok's memory. 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.840 And I was just like, this is so unnecessary, guys. 00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:57.280 So we have this really fun dialogue with the Klingon, which was definitely a deep cut, as we know, to the original series. 00:38:57.440 --> 00:39:04.320 So there's

the guy looked totally different in the original series, and I'm not gonna remember a character name from the original series anyway. 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:06.880 So I was like, okay, interesting. 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.039 I'm gonna have to look into this one. 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.480 And I liked the banter though. 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.239 He's just so good to see you. 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:21.039 And he's like, We we would love to escort you out of this sector for your production. 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:22.639 He's like, no, not necessary. 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.400 He's like, I insist. 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.559 He's like, that would actually be, you know what, great. 00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:30.800 Thank you for doing that. 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.159 So nice to see you. 00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:37.360 It was very like Captain Picard talking to a Klingon. 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:44.239 There was a mutual level of respect there, I felt like, where they're both like, hey, we know what's going on here. 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:54.159 And we're just we're we're posturing for position, and we're just okay, we're on we're on equal ground in this particular situation. 00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:55.440 Uh-huh. 00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:04.400 But this is when we know we find out that the nebula that they were in in Two Vox Flashback also contains ceruleum. 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:11.039 Because Catholic comes up with a gaseous in in it's a gaseous cloud. 00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:13.920 It's a fart, it's a giant fart. 00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:15.760 It's highly explosive. 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.800 So just like you can light a fart on fire, you can light the nebula on fire. 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:31.119 So as they are getting away from this Klingon ship, as they clear the nebula, he has Tuvok shoot something back into it to light the thing up. 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:35.119 Sulu does check and make sure, is this gonna destroy their ship or anything? 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:36.880 And they're like, no, it'll disable it. 00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:38.320 So he's like, do it. 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:44.559 Uh so it just disables the Klingon ship, and they're able to continue on their way. 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:55.760 I will say it was really fun, not just seeing the Celsier, but the old Klingon ships from the movies. 00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:03.760 Because they're so different, they're totally different than the Klingon ships in TNG that we're used to. 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:05.519 So that was fun. 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:06.559 Yeah, that was fun. 00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:16.639 And we got to see that that fire in the cloud, which didn't really look like fire, but the the the cloud of gas just lights up in different ways and it shocks the ship. 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:17.360 It's fun. 00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.159 Terry, I think it's uh hold on. 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.119 It's a on here, I got it somewhere in my notes way up at the top. 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:29.599 It's a class 11 Azure Nebula. 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:30.960 Correct. 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:38.320 Which is not, it turns out, all that similar to this class 17 nebula that they've seen. 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:44.000 Although it looks to the naked eye similar, and they both have this ceruleum in them. 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.079 So how different are they then? 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:48.400 Wait, why are they different then? 00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:57.920 They're I didn't write down what Harry said, man, but something one is a Cas 11, one was a Class 17, and he's just an ensign, though. 00:41:58.639 --> 00:41:59.199 Harry? 00:41:59.280 --> 00:41:59.840 What is it? 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.960 He was assigned, he was assigned by Jane Way to run stas and look at this. 00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:06.639 Just kidding, girl. 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:08.880 He's so smart. 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:11.360 So smart. 00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:16.880 So again, Jane Way's like trying to figure out okay, what does this have to do with anything? 00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:35.039 And all of these flashbacks lead back to, I believe it's two vox bunk mate that he's talking to, where later on the bridge he tells him to get away from the console, and the console explodes, and it actually ends up killing this guy. 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.599 And then we loop through it again. 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:40.880 Yeah, he and Gene Wait, Jane Wade keep seeing this guy. 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:43.199 And Janeway's like, what's happening here? 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.679 What's the connection between this and the little girl? 00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.679 And obviously that's a very hard connection to make. 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.119 They are not sure. 00:42:53.440 --> 00:43:01.599 But then he, when he's laying on the ground, he like turns over, he's like, Two fuck. 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:02.000 Uh-huh. 00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:02.719 Very true. 00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:04.320 I was like, okay. 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.400 So it's not really about the little girl, it's like a death scene. 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:14.960 And this virus, turns out, was had had just stumbled upon this memory and happened. 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:20.719 This was where the virus rooted itself into his brain. 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:31.199 And as they're replaying this, the doctor is seeing a third memory pattern come in, which isn't Two Vox, and it isn't Jane Way's. 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:33.280 And he's like, Well, that's weird. 00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:42.960 Well, the virus goes over to Janeway, and she has the same flashback with the girl. 00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:52.079 Um and we see a very eight year old chubby redhead that is Jane Way, apparently. 00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.039 That was a funny Jane Way child. 00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:56.079 Yeah. 00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.119 I would not have expected that. 00:43:59.440 --> 00:43:59.599 So 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:04.000 Yeah, so now Janeway is the one

holding onto the child as as she falls. 00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:17.840 And while this is happening, the doctor is like figuring out some way to irradiate their brains to try and get this third memory engram, and he's like, maybe, maybe it's something masquerading as a memory of engram. 00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:27.440 The same way that some viruses mimic, I don't remember, fucking blood cells or something so they don't get attacked by the host body. 00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:29.199 It was wild. 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:30.639 Crazy. 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:31.760 It was crazy. 00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:36.880 And I it just increases to the end. 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:45.440 Yeah, I I there's a few things that happen on the bridge of the Excelsior. 00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:50.400 There's a few things that are discussed, I guess, but basically that's it. 00:44:50.639 --> 00:45:03.760 They they get rid of the virus, and Janeway asks Tubak as they're leaving Sick Bay if the Excelsior managed to rescue Kirk and McCoy, and I'm like, how would you not know this? 00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.760 This is like Starfleet history 101. 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:09.760 Because they weren't supposed to. 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.199 Somebody could have just overlooked that. 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:19.280 Oh, do you think it's because she was asking if the logs were changed again? 00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:20.960 Yeah, something like that. 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:30.960 He says, yeah, that the ship was forced to abandon the mission, but Kurt and McCoy made their escape. 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.079 Obviously, just they're just trying to tie it into the movie. 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:34.880 Right. 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:41.360 And I thought it was interesting that the the idea was that this virus was inhabiting his bunkmate. 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:45.360 And it jumped to Tuvok when his bunkmate died. 00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.199 And Tuvok has not seen a manifestation of this. 00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.280 For how many years? 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:52.960 Uh 80. 00:45:53.599 --> 00:46:02.800 So he's had this virus for 80 years, and now because he saw a nebula, it starts like doing damage to his brain. 00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:11.280 Well, and I think the indication was that this virus has haunted humans for since the stone age. 00:46:11.679 --> 00:46:11.920 Yeah. 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:22.559 But but they've finally now in the Delta Quadrant found the virus and found a cure, which I did think that was interesting. 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:40.079 But it just I and I know the way we're talking about it, it doesn't feel like it ended fast, but it went from like build, build, build, build action on the Excelsior to like and cool configured, found the virus, they're walking out of six bay. 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:48.480 Well the action on Excelsior didn't even it never stopped or or deaccelerated. 00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.920 It was just we got to the height of this fight. 00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:53.360 And then we gone. 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.039 And then we were just out. 00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.199 And yeah, it that was very abrupt. 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:16.960 Um I did one final thing I picked up on at the end is that the doctor used terminology that was first introduced in TNG, and for all I know, it's never talked about again. 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:27.920 He talks about memory engrams, obviously, but he says, um sorry, I'm trying to find the exact they're peptides, but I forget what neural? 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:28.320 Yeah. 00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.400 Neural peptides. 00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:48.719 So remember, it's like one of my favorite episodes of TNG where these little amoeba-looking things, but they're invisible, are feeding off of the crew of the Enterprise, and they're all not able to sleep. 00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.119 They're I do not remember that. 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:58.480 Is it the one where they're not able to sleep, or is it the one where Data is basically How did you remember this? 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:08.239 So basically, there's an episode where there's a scene in the episode where Dada is seeing visions of the crew. 00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:11.039 He's dreaming and he doesn't know why. 00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:21.440 And he has a dream where Riker is Diana is drinking out of Riker's brain with a straw. 00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:31.519 There's a straw sticking out of Riker's head, and she's drinking it, and and Beverly is cutting, or or I'm I'm so curious how wrong I am. 00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:38.239 I I think Wharf is cutting Deanna is a cake, and he's cutting her cake body. 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:44.719 It's like it's funny, it's her head, and she's obviously under a table, and then it's a cake shape of her uniform. 00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:49.840 And and basically he says it's a peptide cake. 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:54.320 And what was happening is it's a peptide cake? 00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:55.679 Yeah, okay, you ready? 00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:56.320 I'll find it. 00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:02.639 So instead of me poorly trying to remember for our listeners. 00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:08.719 Okay, so uh this episode of TG is called Phantasms. 00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:11.440 It is uh season seven, episode six. 00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:19.760 The crew helps Data investigate when his dream program suddenly begins generating nightmares, which make him act strangely. 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:25.679 Meanwhile, Captain Picard attempts to avoid attending a boring Starfleet banquet. 00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:27.519 I fucking miss that show. 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:34.159 Same writer, though, is written by Braun and Braga as the episode we're in. 00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.360 Actually, this episode of TNG was directed by Patrick Stewart. 00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:38.400 How interesting. 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:46.880 Um, in the scene, Data begins to dream. 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:53.039 He opens his eyes, he is in 10 forward, and

Wharf is nearby at a table, enjoying a piece of cake. 00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:55.519 Data asks what kind of cake it is. 00:49:55.760 --> 00:50:00.239 He says, a cellular peptide cake with mint frosting. 00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:02.000 Would you like a bite? 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.519 Data declines, and his attention turns to Dr. 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.599 Crusher and Riker at the bar. 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:14.480 Riker has a drinking straw coming out of his head, and Crusher is drinking something out of it. 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:17.199 There's a telephone ringing in the background. 00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:18.880 Aren't you going to answer that? 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:20.079 Riker demands. 00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:36.880 There are workmen are also so so basically they're trying to communicate to data, and it's something about the organisms are eating the peptides, and everyone needs it. 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.360 So and I'll find the picture of it. 00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:42.480 It's like literally hilarious. 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:44.000 Just I love this. 00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:48.559 Oh my god. 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.440 They're not even trying to make it look real. 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:09.280 That was funny. 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.400 How do I stop sharing? 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:15.440 Okay. 00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:21.360 Well, that is season three, episode two. 00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:23.840 That was flashback. 00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:25.199 That was a flashback. 00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:34.400 We're having flashbacks about TNG episodes and original cast movies instead of really focusing on this episode. 00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:45.039 Tuvok is finally rid of a disease that he didn't notice he had for 80 years. 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:47.599 And cut credits. 00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:48.800 Exactly. 00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:49.440 My god. 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:50.639 Oh, I hear Renji. 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:52.960 I don't know why he's crying. 00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:54.239 Where is he? 00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.079 He's downstairs. 00:51:57.199 --> 00:51:58.159 So cute. 00:51:58.639 --> 00:51:59.679 Oh, Columbia crazy. 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:00.639 So annoying. 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.880 He just cries after he eats now. 00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:03.840 What? 00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:04.800 Why? 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:06.480 I don't know. 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:11.840 Oh shit, I just deleted all of my notes for this episode, so I'm glad we're done. 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:14.559 What's that time? 00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:16.000 My what? 00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:18.320 Oh, this looks fantastic. 00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:22.559 Okay, here's the photo that came up for it. 00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:24.320 You ready for this? 00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:25.679 Probably not. 00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:29.440 It looks like a sequel to The Predator or something. 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:31.199 Oh. 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:31.920 Oh. 00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:34.559 Whoa. 00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.039 That's Tom and Harry? 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.559 Tom and Harry. 00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:42.800 Harry looks like. 00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.800 Looks like he's in a Jackie Chan movie. 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:47.679 Yes. 00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:51.039 Like playing Jackie Chan. 00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:59.599 He's got like a bean-ripped bean neck, and he has like a he's holding a bomb or something, and he's covered in the room. 00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:00.719 He's very rugged. 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.320 Yeah, I was like, what is is that a bomb in his hands? 00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.400 They're both super sweaty. 00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.639 Paris got a haircut, it looks like. 00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:10.159 Finally got a haircut. 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.320 And Okay. 00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:16.079 They're in a cave probably. 00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:18.559 It looks like maybe a cave episode. 00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:24.079 You know they had like an entire one stage was for like cave episodes. 00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:24.960 Of course. 00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:26.559 That's why there's so many. 00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:31.840 So season three, episode three, The Shoot. 00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:42.719 Harry Kim and Tom Paris are found guilty and detained in a prison where a neural implant gradually drives the inmates mad. 00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:44.719 Ugh, this sounds familiar. 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:59.519 I feel like there's at least five Stargate SG1 episodes where this happens, but also Tom has already been accused of something and then had a memory engram planted in him that basically tried to drive him crazy. 00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:07.039 Well, what happened is they were like, well, we just did an episode where we're thinking about memory engrams. 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:11.920 So obviously it's on their mind when they write the next episode. 00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:13.440 Because that's how it works, right? 00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.639 They write the episodes in perfect order to how they're released. 00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:17.599 Of course. 00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:18.480 Yeah. 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:20.800 Write, shoot, air. 00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:22.480 In order. 00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:24.400 Especially this. 00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.239 Oh, this looks fun. 00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:27.199 Alright. 00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:29.360 That's I'm so tired, guys. 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:35.119 I just spent four days, four days and four nights moving, and I'm super tired. 00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:36.239 You're done. 00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:37.199 I'm done. 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:37.840 I moved. 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.400 And you're like, my god, where did you move, Audrey? 00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:41.760 Five minutes down the street. 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:42.960 So it's fun. 00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.760 That doesn't still make it easy. 00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:48.480 Still live in Golden, Colorado. 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:52.400 Which is a

great place. 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:53.599 It's so great. 00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.760 That's currently everything is on fire in the West. 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:10.000 It is June 30th, 2026, and I'm curious how bad fire season is in two months when this episode actually premieres. 00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:18.159 I was gonna say a lot, a lot more places are gonna be on fire every every year until the whole world combusts. 00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:19.039 Soon. 00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:27.119 Well, I figure after all the trees burn down and we just settle into this erodification of the west, we'll just be used to it. 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.159 We'll just be used to living in a scrubby desert. 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:31.760 I don't think so. 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:36.480 I spent 28 years in a scrubby desert and I never got used to it. 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.000 So, well, yeah, but your desert is not scrubby. 00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:43.440 It's like sparse cactusy. 00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.599 Is one better than the other? 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.559 It still doesn't get 120 degrees here. 00:55:48.639 --> 00:55:49.440 That's something. 00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:50.480 But it could. 00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.119 No, it's not gonna get hotter. 00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:00.880 It's just gonna get just it's just gonna be less moisture. 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.440 Audrey, it's definitely going to get hotter. 00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:05.760 I hate to bring it too cute. 00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:10.719 It's no, it's it's not gonna get hotter. 00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:12.320 It's gonna stay. 00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.000 When it gets hot, it's gonna stay hot for longer. 00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:17.119 And it's gonna rain. 00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:20.239 It doesn't mean it's gonna get hotter. 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:25.840 We're still we're still further away from the equator than Arizona. 00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:39.519 But if all the trees die and there's no shade, it would it would definitely be hot under the more hot under the trees where the trees are no longer giving shade where it needs to be. 00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:44.320 Alright, well, it's still gonna be a good place to live. 00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:45.760 Yeah, I'm not moving. 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.920 But I'm not very I'm not moving further away. 00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:54.559 But also not moving into the mountains until after. 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.360 Can you imagine living in Evergreen? 00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:04.639 And just waiting for the next fire to destroy your entire town. 00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.360 We have friends that live in Evergreen. 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:08.320 I do too. 00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:08.960 Huh. 00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:10.239 Kitty Ridge. 00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:11.280 And I'm just like, yeah. 00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:13.280 Ooh, that's not great. 00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:13.920 No. 00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:16.000 That's scary. 00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:17.199 Alright. 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:19.119 Um on that note. 00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:20.960 I so need to go to bed. 00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:22.960 Thanks, guys, for tuning in. 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:29.280 As always, we love, we love this podcast, and we love that you listen to it. 00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:35.360 We'll see you next time for season three, episode three, The Shoot on the Voicast. 00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:36.159 Bye.