Full Transcript for Tangled in 'The Comeback,' Sisterhood & Being a Confident Introvert

of like fucks with your head because then you just start to think like, oh my God, the whole world is obsessed with the comeback, but it's not. 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:15.120 It's just that your algorithm has shifted so that you're like flooded with it. 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:19.040 And then it fades and you go, Oh, it was just a little shell. 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:20.560 It was a little moment, you know. 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:28.160 And I always have this thing like where whenever I like shoot a series or something, and people will start to say to me, like, are you excited? 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:28.959 Are you excited? 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:30.399 And I'll be like, About what? 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:32.000 Like, well, this show's gonna air. 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:33.519 I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah. 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:35.920 Like that's not the exciting part. 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:37.439 That's not the exciting part. 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:38.959 I mean, for fans it is. 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:41.199 For me, it is about shows that I want to watch. 00:04:41.360 --> 00:04:44.800 But as an actress, I just like being on set, I just like doing it. 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:49.120 Well, well, that's a good algorithm to have compared to what what we could be seeing. 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:50.560 I I have that algorithm as well. 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:52.000 I love the comeback in my feed. 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:52.959 Right, right, right. 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:54.240 Yeah, it's now Broadway. 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:55.680 It's all Broadway now. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:56.480 I love that. 00:04:56.879 --> 00:05:03.439 Did you know that the final scene, that monologue, was gonna be in the different colors throughout the decades of TV? 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:05.519 I think that was in the script. 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:10.480 Well, uh no, it was in the script that it was started black and white and ended in color. 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:18.399 I don't recall if it was that specific, but you know, um, Ellie Smolkin, who was our DP, was so amazing. 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:23.199 He's such an amazing DP that I didn't even know he was the DP until like the fourth day. 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:24.319 If that makes sense. 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:25.199 You know what I mean? 00:05:25.360 --> 00:05:30.240 Because he was just, he's so he's he's just so he had a team. 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:34.240 Like it was, I don't know, it's hard to explain why that, why that's good. 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:37.680 But if you've if you've worked on sets and stuff, you'll know what I mean. 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:38.800 Best show of all time. 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:42.560 We're gonna get back to it a little later, but now let's double back all the way back. 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.240 Well, we're gonna go back to New Hampshire. 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.000 Your upbringing in New Hampshire. 00:05:46.160 --> 00:05:49.120 Uh, you have three sisters, you're still very close. 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:52.000 How would you encapsulate your upbringing and family life? 00:05:52.240 --> 00:05:53.360 Funny, musical? 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.600 I know you you sing as well, political. 00:05:56.000 --> 00:06:02.079 Political, funny, musical, crazy, dysfunction, all fucked up, close, warm, wonderful. 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:07.360 Like everything is really out in the open, and sometimes that's too much. 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:15.680 But yeah, I mean, we were a close family, but you know, we had we definitely like had our difficulties. 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:21.279 Um, I would say the older we get, the closer we get as sisters. 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:30.240 Like the relationship really evolves as you get older and you know, you realize like what's really important in life, and you just cling to each other. 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:31.600 Like we just cling to each other. 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:37.279 We're gonna be old ladies together, and it's um it's really great. 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:38.800 My sisters are my best friends. 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:40.160 Beautiful thing to have. 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.680 And two of you are in the entertainment business, obviously, you and Sarah. 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:44.160 Yeah. 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.800 Was your initial aspirations as a child? 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.519 Was it always entertainment or writing or music? 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:52.399 Um, I wanted to be a writer since I was like eight. 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:57.439 I wanted to be a novelist, and I still want to be a novelist, and I am working on a novel. 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:02.800 Um, I have been working on a novel, and I know like everybody says that, but you know, we'll see. 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:05.040 And but that was really my passion. 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:10.480 But insane as it is, like I was always really awkward and introverted and shy. 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:14.399 And performing was really the last thing anybody would think I would do. 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.639 But writing was so frightening to me. 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:21.519 I always wrote, I just didn't show it to people because it's it it's you. 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:28.879 And I didn't have what it took emotionally to withstand rejection when it came to writing. 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:29.920 I do now. 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:35.759 It took me a long time to cultivate that, to understand myself and how my brain works and things like that. 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:37.519 I had a lot to work on. 00:07:37.839 --> 00:07:43.839 So I I I started doing acting because I found it fascinating. 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:52.800 I really was fascinated by what acting was, you know, how that you can create a performance, like all the things that can go into it. 00:07:52.959 --> 00:08:02.879 Like, and and I would just, I could handle the rejection because I would just be like, oh, you know, probably too cute and too sexy, it's probably too young looking and too

sexy for the part. 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:04.240 You know. 00:08:06.399 --> 00:08:17.199 I could handle the rejection and I also could, you know, do something, watch it and go, okay, this is what I can do better, this is what I can do better, this is what I can do better, and be excited about that. 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.920 So I guess there was just a lot less ego in it for me. 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:24.160 You say you could handle the rejection, which, you know, is a big part of the entertainment industry. 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:26.160 A lot of people veer away from doing it because of that. 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:32.480 Being comfortable with rejection, does that parallel with being confident? 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:36.879 Because you are very shy and extroverted, but are you an introverted, confident person? 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.519 Yeah, I would say I'm an introverted, confident person. 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:40.480 Yeah, for sure. 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:41.919 Beautiful thing. 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:46.639 I, you know, I definitely recharge my batteries by being alone. 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:50.240 But I I I love connecting with people. 00:08:50.559 --> 00:09:00.559 What I like about it is I guess if if you are, I had never thought about it that way, like a confident introvert, but it allows you to step into a situation. 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:04.720 You know, this got easier the older I got to, where you're part of a production. 00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:09.200 It's really fun to be part of a team and you give it all over. 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:11.840 You're you're there to fulfill someone else's vision. 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:17.759 And you have to constantly tell yourself, uh, remind yourself, I don't need anything from anybody here. 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:18.799 I'm not on the make. 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:20.080 I mean, everyone's on the make. 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:20.879 I'm not on the make. 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:22.000 That's why my career sucks. 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:23.519 I don't know that's why I don't know anybody. 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:28.960 That's why I couldn't like name a single, you know, like casting director or agent. 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:30.799 Um, I suck at show business. 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:39.360 But I think that it's like a it helps me as an actor because yeah, I'm there to to do the best to just give myself over completely. 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:41.279 And uh I love that feeling. 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:42.240 I really love it. 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:47.120 Like I have ADHD that's like popular these days, but I really do have it. 00:09:47.360 --> 00:09:49.360 And um, just ask my husband. 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:54.480 And um, it's a relief for me because my focus is like laser. 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:58.480 I'm completely focused when the camera's rolling and I know what I'm supposed to do. 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:03.039 And it's absolutely thrilling to not know exactly what's gonna happen. 00:10:03.200

--> 00:10:16.559 You're just locked into the situation with other people, and there's a script and there's backstory and whatever's happened and what's gonna happen, and and just like creating something in the moment you didn't expect is the greatest thrill. 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:17.600 I love it so much. 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:18.799 So that's what I'm in it. 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:20.159 That's what I'm there for. 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.960 I'm there for that, the the focus and the thrill and just being part of a team. 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:30.960 So were your North stars growing up more writers as opposed to entertainers and and actors? 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:32.559 Oh yeah, yeah, right. 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.440 Did that also fall in line with uh musicians? 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:37.120 Because you also write songs, right? 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:37.679 Lyrics? 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:40.000 Yeah, I do, but I just write stupid songs. 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:40.720 I don't know. 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.720 Um, my my sister Sarah is a huge fan of my stupid songs. 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:55.600 So like I will go through phases where I just sort of like wake up in the morning and I just like off the top of my head write a song, record it, and send it to her, and she goes crazy for it. 00:10:55.840 --> 00:11:15.519 So like when we did the Sarah Silverman program, she all the songs that I had sent her, she worked into the show and even like based entire episodes on like the white dog poop lost boyslash friend, which was uh whatever, you don't know these songs, but like she would she would build episodes around these stupid songs. 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:23.759 Well, you know, there's a um there's a soundtrack, has all the songs. 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:25.600 I I'll add that to my my apple. 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:28.480 Also, like great songs that she wrote and they wrote. 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:29.360 But yeah, yeah. 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:35.919 It's just it I I'm not I would not say I'm a songwriter, but I can really whip out a a good, solid, stupid song. 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:39.840 No, I know your goal is to write uh a novel, so you're immersed in fiction. 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:40.879 Do you write personally? 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:44.320 Did you were you a journaler or do you journal now personal essays? 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:49.440 I don't really journal, but I definitely write no matter what I'm writing. 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:53.120 The first thing I wrote was about um a hockey player. 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:54.559 I was ahead of the curve. 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:55.039 You were? 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:58.879 I actually wrote a pilot about a hockey player, and then that was the first thing I wrote. 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:07.279 It was probably 10 or more years ago, and I was like, no, nobody's gonna make a show about a hockey player, about hockey players. 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:12.799 Uh I know, and when the whole thing started, Sarah was like, your script, your script. 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.840 And I was like, you know, they already did it. 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:16.799 Like, it's all right. 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.279 I it's that's not like, but oh, okay. 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:29.600 So well, my point was, sorry, I was gonna write try to write a pilot, and my sister's advice to me was think uh, it's hard for me not to imitate her, but it's like I'm not doing it a mean way. 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:34.960 Like, think of your best self, like or you shine the most, and then write that character. 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:40.159 And I wrote a story about a 27-year-old hockey player with PTSD, and he was me. 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:45.679 So, like, I think it's Alice Monroe that said, you know, we all just have one story. 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:47.600 We just find lots of ways to tell it. 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:49.120 And it's it's the truth. 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:57.840 So everything I write, whether it's like pretty closely autobiographical or not, it is, I definitely am inspired. 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:03.279 Like, I don't write like fantasy or I can't even read that that kind of stuff. 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:04.720 I like Slice of Life. 00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:05.200 Yes. 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:10.320 Well, most of these books behind me are memoirs, including The Brilliant Sarah Silverman's The Bedwetter. 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:15.759 So do you think you have a memoir in you, or would you make it fiction with some truth woven in? 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:17.360 No, absolutely not. 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:18.320 Not a memoir, no. 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:19.679 Do you have a musical in you? 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:20.240 I don't know. 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:21.679 My sister's doing that, you know. 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:22.320 I know. 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:23.519 It was here in DC. 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:25.519 I don't have his zombie seconds. 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:26.240 It's hard. 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:26.960 It's really difficult. 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:28.159 Do I have a musical in me? 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:28.879 No, I don't think so. 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:37.679 I think what I have in me, it's been brewing for a while, is a I want to do a show that is this is a real moneymaker. 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:38.720 Just kidding. 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:40.799 I don't have money making ideas. 00:13:40.960 --> 00:13:42.799 Um, I want to do a show. 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:46.960 One of the things I'm really interested in is early childhood education. 00:13:47.519 --> 00:14:01.840 And I want to do a show for ages zero to four that is with songs and that basically just sort of like teaches kids how to deal with cope with their emotions in a healthy way. 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:03.519 That would be beautiful. 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:08.960 And you know, lots of really stupid songs and stupid characters, like so that I think I have that in me. 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:12.159 It makes

me think of um Jack McBrayer who had a children's show on. 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:13.200 He was kind of very Mr. 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:14.480 Rogers-esque, yeah. 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:16.480 Oh, oh God, yeah. 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:18.159 I'm looking forward to that. 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:26.720 Well, well, with that, the changing TV landscape, which the comeback captured so well throughout the 21 years with reality and cable shows and AI. 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:28.879 How do you feel about where we are right now? 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:32.960 Are you moving forward with confidence or sort of just with the AI of it all? 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:34.559 And the TV landscape in general. 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:36.399 It's changed so much in the 21 years. 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:39.279 It started changing quite a while ago. 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:45.600 And the way I feel about all things is, you know, if you can't do anything about it, then just accept it and work with it. 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:47.919 Don't, you know, sit around and whine. 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:51.039 You know, it just is what it is, and you gotta adapt and pivot. 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:53.519 And because it changed a long time ago with streamers. 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:57.679 And look, I enjoy watching shows on streamers, so I can't complain. 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:00.159 But the hierarchy like shifted. 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:04.480 You know, it used to be like we had movie stars who did movies, and they're still doing movies. 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:07.279 They're doing indies and they're doing great stuff, but they stream. 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:18.720 But people that we didn't think were TV people are doing series on streamers, amazing actors and actresses that are like our top-tier, you know, A-list movie stars. 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:28.879 So that everybody who used to be like the TV star is now like the TV like supporting or the TV guest, you know, and the TV, the supporting is the TV guest star. 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:35.919 And then people like me are like, you know, five lines of like the wacky teacher on a Tim Allen show. 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:40.960 I don't belong there. 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:44.399 I did do a Tim Allen show and I thought it was really good. 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:46.000 Which one? 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:51.279 It was the last one before this one was uh last man's last man standing. 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.399 Yeah, and I got a call to go just go over there. 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.240 Like I guess they must have fired someone. 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:01.600 And that was so freeing because I yeah, guess there's not a lot of expectation on you, you know. 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:05.360 I had a few minutes, I had a fitting, I sat there, I looked at the script. 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:07.120 So I just felt really free. 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:12.799 And so I just did I went way outside like my comfort zone and I, yeah, I kind of like that. 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:22.559 Fun story when my was my husband and I were dating, we were staying in a hotel because we were like drove to Orange County for something. 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:27.440 So we stayed overnight and it was one of our sort of like first like overnights in a hotel together. 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:35.200 You know, it was morning, and we have like that, you know, like the hotel room service coffee, which is romantic. 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:45.279 And uh, you know, we like the TV was just on, and you know, we started kind of getting a little bit intimate, and that came on. 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:50.320 We being wacky on killer. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:52.799 Maybe he likes that. 00:16:53.600 --> 00:16:55.519 So you're an introvert, you're very shy. 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:59.440 Your Instagram also says that you are, I mean, jokingly, a shut-in. 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:05.119 What does that look like for someone who is in the entertainment industry and has to be in the public eye at some point? 00:17:05.440 --> 00:17:09.119 Well, you know, when I have to be like, I just lock into that and do it. 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:10.480 And and it can be fun. 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.200 It's always very, very stressful ahead of time. 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:24.559 Um, every time I open it, would open an email that was an invite to an event, my reaction would be like dropping to my knees and slumping over the coffee table. 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:25.680 Like, no. 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.359 And my husband would think someone died. 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:30.640 I get to figure out what to do. 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:32.079 You seem to be navigating it well. 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:34.240 I uh, you know, uh, it's it's gotten a lot better. 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:38.000 This taught me, this taught me that I like, you know, I have good style. 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:39.039 I can pull it together. 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:40.160 It can be fun. 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.799 And um, yeah, so I yeah, a lot better. 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:43.440 A lot better. 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:45.519 It's, you know, it's not my comfort zone. 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:47.599 I am kind of a shut-in in LA. 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:49.519 But what else is there to be in LA? 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:50.559 Where are we going? 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:51.519 Where are we going? 00:17:51.759 --> 00:17:55.680 That's why we, you know, like we we stay home, especially when you're older. 00:17:55.839 --> 00:17:56.640 Where are you going? 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:58.960 Are you gonna go over somebody's house and hang out? 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:00.640 That's terrifying for that person. 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:02.799 What if you don't like stay too long? 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:05.039 It just doesn't happen. 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:06.480 It doesn't happen. 00:18:07.279 --> 00:18:08.400 Lisa's the same way. 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:10.480 She's not going out to hang out. 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:12.079 She's

not coming over someone's house. 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.319 She's not gonna like meet at a coffee shop. 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:15.839 Like, we we FaceTime. 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:17.519 We all thank God for FaceTime. 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:22.000 Well, we are living in pretty heavy times, so it's probably nice to be shut in. 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:23.599 I isolate at times too. 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:25.519 Yeah, it it can be a problem. 00:18:25.680 --> 00:18:37.920 I actually have um lately um gotten really good at like making plans with my good friends, my core friends, the people that I really like being around, I will make a point of seeing like once a month and staying in contact with. 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:39.359 So I I am emerging. 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:40.559 I'm doing better. 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:43.599 Well, you mentioned your algorithm is a lot of Broadway. 00:18:43.680 --> 00:18:44.960 So happy stuff. 00:18:45.119 --> 00:18:47.680 Is that how you kind of recharge or escape? 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:56.559 Do you have your your sort of life set up so you you're not having to because I feel like we're all in this onslaught of bad news and especially in California, you're living in it. 00:18:56.640 --> 00:18:59.119 So are you able to sort of shut a lot of that out? 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:05.440 Yeah, I kind of like I I have developed a system where like I I shut off all of my news notifications. 00:19:05.680 --> 00:19:12.559 I have the news, I've shut off all of my notifications except for I get the LA Times for a dollar a year through SAG. 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:16.400 So I got it, the LA Times and I get headlines on my watch. 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:21.039 So if anything happens that's important, I find out about it. 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:28.880 And you know, with my family, obviously is very engaged and we do family Zoom every Sunday, and it's amazing. 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:39.119 Like it's like us four sisters, my sisters, three daughters, my aunt and my cousin Jenny, and we talk about anything and everything for forever every Sunday morning. 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:45.279 But I I can't be I the the 24-hour news cycle is like the death of society. 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.079 It's not healthy, it's not good, it's not real. 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.400 They are competing to have a story every single second of every day. 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.519 So there's no more editing, there's no more fact-checking. 00:19:55.759 --> 00:19:58.079 So you have to really boil it down for yourself. 00:19:58.160 --> 00:19:59.920 You have to do research about things. 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:08.480 You have to really be careful and curate and not just repost and not be like virtue signaling when you don't know what you're talking about. 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:10.880 That that's a big problem. 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:13.359 So I I stay, I don't I stay out of that. 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.640 I don't I used to talk politics on the old Twitter. 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:18.240 It wasn't healthy for me at all. 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:19.839 And it didn't help anybody. 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:21.039 I don't do it anymore. 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:29.759 Your sister Sarah is very politically outspoken, and I'm sure she uh has given you some pointers uh on uh not letting things get to you, like the scrutiny. 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:31.119 Uh yeah. 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:35.200 Uh well Or I guess that's probably also why you stop posting about it. 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:36.960 I'm not famous, first of all. 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:39.279 Nobody's looking for my voice about things. 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:41.839 You know, I grew up an activist, we grew up activists. 00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:43.519 Well, you're very well respected. 00:20:43.759 --> 00:20:44.799 You mean the family? 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:46.400 You mean me personally? 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:47.119 Yes. 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:47.680 Okay. 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:49.839 Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:51.039 I don't shit talk. 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:53.440 I don't say negative things about anybody. 00:20:53.680 --> 00:20:54.400 And I could. 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:57.279 I know a lot being in this business, you know a lot of things. 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.079 You really probably wish you didn't know about people. 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:02.640 I don't shit talk people as a rule. 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:03.759 I just don't do it. 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:05.279 I don't see any value. 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:08.000 This is like, you know, this is my one and only life. 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.480 And it's it's in the later stages. 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:15.039 So I really need to make decisions about how I'm going to live. 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:22.799 And I choose not to be doom scrolling and wringing my hands and, you know, getting ulcers over things I can't control. 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:24.240 I educate myself. 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.200 I I research things, I want to know about things. 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:31.200 Um, I want to be able to speak well about things when it comes up. 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:43.039 But the whole like social media, like, no, that's not what I I don't want to every time I open Instagram, I I feel like a rush of that like bad adrenaline, like that anxiety. 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:44.240 It just I understand. 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:45.519 You have to protect your peace. 00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:45.920 Yeah. 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:47.599 Yeah, you gotta protect your peace. 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:55.759 And and speaking of that, you mentioned getting older and we persevering and resilience and sort of trying to maintain an hopeful, happy mindset. 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:59.519 I want to talk about grief and loss, which you've lost both your parents. 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:05.200 And Sarah channeled her grief very powerfully in her special postmortem. 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:06.480 So beautiful.

00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:08.559 The older we get, we experience more loss. 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.599 We realize what we can handle because we sort of have to get through it. 00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:14.480 How do you stay grounded and present in the wake of loss? 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:19.759 And what have you learned over the past decade losing so many people and just growing older? 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:21.599 Oh well. 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:22.559 Yeah. 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:26.240 We've lost I mean, my mom died 11 years ago. 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.200 My stepdad died about five years before that. 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:37.200 And then in 2023, my very unexpectedly, my stepmother died, and then my dad died ten days later because he didn't want to live without her. 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:39.440 And you know, we honored that. 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:48.960 Um I mean we didn't kill him, but it just his body just gave him what he wanted and it was it was the right thing. 00:22:49.200 --> 00:23:01.119 But you get through it by realizing that there's four of us girls, four sisters, and we have gotten closer and closer and closer through every loss of parents. 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:28.480 And yeah, we cling to each other and we start to just let go of all the things, you know, like you you you have to let go of all your expectations of a person that are just not your business and not your deal, and let them be themselves and don't get involved in the things that you don't like or disagree with because it's not your business, and just love them for everything that you love about them, and there's so much. 00:23:28.799 --> 00:23:38.160 Just strip away like the trying to control people, let them do them, or they let you do you, and you just love the shit out of each other. 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:41.119 We love each other so hard, it's ridiculous. 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:42.799 Yeah, it's redefining. 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:45.680 I mean, I lost my favorite dog earlier this summer. 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:47.440 It's different, but it reshapes you. 00:23:47.839 --> 00:23:48.960 It's awful to lose a dog. 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:54.240 Yeah, I have three, and they just I feel like they're I've lost people in my life and they're just the closest thing. 00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:56.319 It's like a loss, a grief unlike any other. 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:04.880 But you know what the thing is about pets is that it is the most personal loss because nobody had the relationship with that pet that you had. 00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:11.359 Like people, you share a closeness and a knowledge of that person, but you're the only person that had that relationship. 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:15.839 And so it's it's some there's something that's very intensely lonely about it. 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:18.000 We'll lighten up a little bit now. 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.319 Um, I did want to get back to your singing because you do have a gorgeous voice. 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.519 I'm

curious who your favorite artists were, past and and present currently. 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:26.640 What are you listening to? 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:29.119 Oh, um, thank you for saying that. 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:34.559 I actually just started taking singing lessons just for myself, and I love it so much. 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:43.440 Growing up, you know, we had all the big musicals of the generation of the time we're always playing on vinyl in our house. 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:47.039 We had uh Hair and Pearly and Jesus Christ. 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:50.559 I knew every word to Jesus Christ Superstar when I was six. 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:52.319 I love that show. 00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:52.640 Yeah. 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:53.599 I love the movie. 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.720 I mean, the movie soundtrack is is what I listened to. 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:02.000 Godspell, a chorus line, Sunday in the park with George and company. 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.720 And, you know, those are the the album covers. 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.440 And then I was really into the Partridge family. 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.599 I was in love with Chris in the way that, in the sense that I kind of wanted to be him. 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:18.640 Like I was a boy crazy when I was young, but I it was more like I I thought they got to wear cooler clothes and do cooler things. 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.319 So I was like what they call a tomboy, with a I think is a weird term. 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:23.680 I don't know what it really means. 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.599 So I got a drum kit and I got a drum kit for Christmas. 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:30.079 We had Jewish Christmas. 00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:32.960 We just had a tree couple sometimes for fun. 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:34.960 I got a drum kit and I played the drums. 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:36.559 I played uh like through high school. 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:48.160 So Broadway, but we also we were always listening to like Roberto Flack and Johnny Mitchell, and you know, all that kind of music, that sort of singer-songwriter stuff, John Denver, Carol King. 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:54.559 So it was that stuff, the Mamas and the Papas, the Carpenters, the Peter, Paul, and Mary, all that stuff. 00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:56.480 And I still listen to that music. 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.400 Yeah, the older I get, I'm just returning to my favorite 90s singers. 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:06.160 I'm so bad now, like I don't know who who the singers are and the songs are because I don't have a commute. 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:09.920 You know, that's when I would listen to the radio and I would know the current song. 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:14.640 So I feel very old right now because I don't know who these young people are. 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.440 I've been listening to a lot of Broadway, honestly, lately. 00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:25.440 I'm just like really in a thing, but my younger adulthood, I mean the 90s hip-hop, 90s hip-hop

was a big deal. 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:39.440 De la Sole, who I actually got to work with on their album and the anonymous nobody, and the song that I did didn't make it onto the album, but there you there's little bits of me in there doing skits and bits and voices, but that was a thrill of a lifetime. 00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:42.079 Um coolest thing I ever did, I think. 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.680 And then it was like Joe Jackson, Joan Arm Trading. 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:46.400 I still listen. 00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:51.440 My playlist is basically all like Lilithair and Alanis Morissette and Tori Amos from the 90s. 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:53.680 It's like you get in our routines the older we get. 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:53.920 Yeah. 00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:54.400 Yeah. 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:55.599 Alanis for sure. 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:56.000 All right. 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:57.680 Well, we're gonna go back to the comeback now. 00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.039 21 years as Jane. 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:04.880 Dan Bukutinski said in an interview that you're nothing like Jane, but even in speaking with you right now, I do see some overlap. 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:06.319 Where do you see some overlap? 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:07.920 Uh yeah, there's overlap. 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:14.160 I mean, it's funny, like, I think like I have been cast generally as two archetypes. 00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:23.119 I'm either like the kind of dry, withdrawn, constantly judging you silently character, like Jane, like Laura and Dr. 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:28.880 Katz, with the, you know, kind of speaks in like the lower register, or I'm like Laura on the surface. 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:29.759 So I'm in programmer. 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:36.480 I'm just like this cheerful, happy, cheerful, like with the high little voice, like when they've done like sitcoms. 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:49.680 It's always like, oh, so it's like it seems like there's these two archetypes that I get cast as like the bubbly high voice, cute, stupid girl, or the one that's kind of hanging back and like, mm-hmm. 00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:57.200 Yeah, and I also see the overlap in that she also wasn't great at showbiz, kind of like to be in the background and not public facing. 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.079 She kept getting sucked into like, ugh, this. 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:01.759 You know, we had a thing. 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.079 Like Michael loved to play with that. 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:11.279 Like, if you watch it a lot, you'll start to see like he he would have me decide, is Jane interested in this? 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:11.839 You know? 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.039 And it was always kind of like a fun task. 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:22.960 Yeah, and you also said you don't usually come up with projects that are moneymakers, and that made me think of Jane's Oscar documentary. 00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:28.240 But you know, then in despite herself, she had some modicum of success, you know. 00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:30.799 So I guess that's similar as well. 00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:32.240 I am both those people. 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:38.799 I am like super supportive, warm, loving, and I am also spider-eyes. 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:43.119 How did you get the call, or how did you find out that there was going to be a third and final season? 00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:45.279 Um, it was February. 00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.279 I actually had gotten really sick and it was a whole thing. 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:50.799 It was kind of scary. 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:55.359 And it got figured out, but I had to go on high dosteroids and all this stuff. 00:28:55.440 --> 00:29:00.960 And so it was like right at right when this happened, and I got this sort of diagnosis. 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:08.319 I was actually literally like getting blood drawn to confirm when Michael texted me and said, Can we call you? 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:09.279 Can I call you? 00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:10.400 And I was like, Yeah. 00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.039 And this can only be one thing, you know? 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:18.960 And and so Michael and Lisa got on the phone with me and they're like, season three of the comeback is shooting this summer. 00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:19.440 Are you in? 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:25.119 And I was like, Yes, I'm in, you know, and I would just all like I was all like, yeah, let's do it. 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:25.680 Yeah. 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:31.119 And meanwhile, I was like, I might be dying. 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.519 Uh I didn't die and I'm healthy, I'm good. 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.240 But that is a thing, like, I don't know. 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:57.039 I always I feel like I want to say, it probably nobody cares, no one noticed, but I had to go on high-dose steroids for a period of time, and then it got figured out and I it it got like cured, but then I had to slowly get off of steroids, and my face, it was enough, and my face got puffy. 00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:00.799 And during the course of shooting, it was still kind of puffy. 00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:11.519 And so that was like that's all I can see when I look at it, is that my face is still puffy from steroids because it just makes me feel like that's not that doesn't look like me to me, but nobody else notices. 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:13.519 No, I don't think it registered for anyone. 00:30:13.680 --> 00:30:16.000 It was very, it was just a little bit left. 00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.799 I was like down to like nine milligrams. 00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:20.640 It takes forever to get off that shit. 00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:21.119 It does. 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:22.400 I have a dog on it right now. 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.839 Uh what is your favorite episode or storyline? 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.039 And what do you think the legacy of the comeback will be or is? 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:35.200 God, I don't I I I'm the worst at like if we played comeback trivia, you I wouldn't win.

00:30:35.599 --> 00:30:37.440 Well, you don't like to rewatch yourself, yeah. 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:38.799 I don't, yeah. 00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:39.759 I don't. 00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:44.640 But I mean, I really I think my favorite storyline is is this last season. 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.920 It has to be because each season was an evolution. 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.359 So it's like you have to kind of go with the the latest one. 00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:56.880 It's sort of like when you write something and you're like, I'm writing so much better now than I was 10 months ago. 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.640 So, you know, you you just keep improving on it. 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.599 So I think it is one of those things that it got better and better. 00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:10.480 So the latest storyline I think is really it really deals with something big in a really incredible way. 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:11.599 So impactful. 00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:16.480 And I was so happy to see that Lisa got nominated for writing, not just acting. 00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:18.640 Yeah, she was really excited about that. 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.000 It's like Lisa, this is like the difference between Lisa and Michael. 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.200 Lisa's like, oh, I got nominated for writing. 00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:26.160 That's so cool. 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.640 I've never gotten a nominee for writing before. 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:32.160 And and you know, and and and best actress for something I wrote. 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.039 Like, that's so cool. 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.200 You know, and she's like, oh, Gene Smart's gonna win. 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:36.000 I mean, and she should. 00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:36.799 She's incredible. 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.640 You know, that's what it's like talking to her about it. 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.759 And then Michael is just like, uh, you want to have lunch? 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.319 Yeah, I guess we can go like lick our wounds. 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.880 And I was like, what is wrong with you? 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:51.200 I mean, it's a brilliant show, and it's always been a small niche show. 00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:52.400 It's a small show. 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:53.359 That's what Lisa says. 00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:54.640 She's like, it's a little show. 00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.599 Like, it's incredible that we've done what we've done. 00:31:57.920 --> 00:31:58.559 Absolutely. 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:00.160 And Michael, great quality. 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.920 Be happy with this third season, especially coming off event just like that. 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:04.559 Be happy. 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.359 Um and what do you think the legacy will be? 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:27.039 I think the legacy of the comeback is I mean, the legacy already exists because between seasons with decades passing, you have young people, people in their early 20s that you work with and they're like, when I did last man standing, those girls who play the daughters were like, You're Jane. 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:28.480 And I was like, really? 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.400 You know, then they're like in their early 20s or late teens. 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:34.960 They and they they worship the comeback. 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.880 Young people have found it every time and continue to find it. 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.720 And I think that's what creates a legacy is that it's evergreen. 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:43.759 It's always gonna hold up. 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:50.160 And you touched on it earlier in in our conversation about the final day of filming and the special quiet moments with Lisa. 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:54.559 What in general does Lisa Coudreau mean to you after 21 years? 00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:56.720 She means a lot to me. 00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:06.720 I, you know, my job was to be there for her, to act with her at all times, even though almost all of the time I wasn't on camera. 00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:07.759 What am I gonna do? 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:08.880 Not give her everything? 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:10.880 Like, how boring of a day am I gonna have? 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:12.480 Like, I get to act with Lisa all day. 00:33:12.559 --> 00:33:14.000 Who cares if it's not on camera? 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:18.240 I mean, it would have been nice, but you know, it still was awesome. 00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.519 And so she looked to me for that. 00:33:21.680 --> 00:33:22.480 You know what I mean? 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.279 And I looked to her for everything. 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:34.319 It was it it's such a strong connection between the two of us that, you know, even though season one, I was so intimidated by her because she's so smart and cool. 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:40.559 And I I couldn't say two words to her, like when we were in a van going back to the studio from location. 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:42.400 I'd be like, this is every single time. 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.319 And I just go like, how's Julian? 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.200 Because, you know, that's all I could come up with. 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:57.119 To then season two, coming back 10 years later and being just a much more relaxed and confident person and able to engage and talking and laughing a lot. 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.079 And she leaned on me a lot that season and it felt great. 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:04.000 And then season three was just like, and we had to actually work together. 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:12.880 I wrote a pilot that I developed with her and stuff, but season three was just the connection between us as people got so strong. 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:19.440 We just Lisa would sometimes say, like, you know, something would happen and she goes, Oh yeah, because we're the same person. 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:33.679 We are kind of the same person in all these sort of weird um ways that almost the way like twins have a secret language, like when we talk,

it's yeah, there's something there's just this thing. 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:34.719 Very special. 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.840 Now, how are you navigating post-comeback life? 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:38.800 This next chapter. 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:43.119 I know you want to write a novel, you write music, you do voice work. 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:43.920 What's next? 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:45.360 Are you still figuring that out? 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.280 Listen, my dream has always been I wanted I thought I was gonna be a dramatic actress. 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.280 I studied acting for 10 years. 00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:58.480 You know, I didn't think I was gonna do comedy, but then like, duh, like that was just sort of my way in. 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:10.000 And then so obviously that path kind of follows people just uh but I I wanna I want to do drama and I my dream is to play a doctor on a medical drama. 00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.280 That's the dream. 00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:21.360 Um Michael said when we were at South by Southwest, we're having dinner, and he just was like, he's so intense because he was gushing so much to me this time. 00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.400 It felt good, but you're so good, you're so good. 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.719 Like, I see you, I see you. 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.239 Like a starring like a medical drama. 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.400 I'm like, Yeah, I I hope so. 00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:37.360 I felt like when he said it, he was like speaking to you know to God. 00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.800 I can see it, but I don't know nobody's listening. 00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:41.760 I don't know. 00:35:41.920 --> 00:35:48.239 I'm I'm like I said, Kyle, I suck at show business, but I'm I I I'm feeling like a strong pull to New York City. 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.440 I love New York City. 00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.039 I've been spending a lot more time there. 00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:52.320 I'm a different person in New York. 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:53.840 In New York, I'm I go out. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:36:07.440 I'm out, I am I'm with friends, I'm seeing shows, I'm walking, I'm just like drifting around and I I see myself living in both cities and just in LA enjoying the sort of hibernation and isolation. 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.320 And then New York, it's just a whole different thing for me. 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:16.159 It's and so I actually signed with a talent agency in New York City. 00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.400 Ooh, that's an exciting new chapter by coastal. 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:21.199 Yeah. 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.239 I so, you know, there's a lot happening in New York. 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.159 There's not so much happening here. 00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:30.239 And I I love the idea of working more in New York and spending time in New York. 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:34.320 So hopefully that's and they know they know what I want. 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:36.400 So they're working on it. 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:37.679 What about theater? 00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:38.880 Could you do eight shows a week? 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:39.599 You love Broadway. 00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:41.840 You know, I think I yeah, I could do eight shows a week. 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:42.320 I could. 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:43.840 I couldn't do musicals. 00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:45.280 I don't have that kind of voice. 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:45.760 Maybe. 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:47.119 You could you could sing and dance. 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:47.760 I can sing. 00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:50.159 Maybe after after more lessons. 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:51.679 I cannot dance. 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:52.880 I cannot dance. 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:53.679 I can dance. 00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.760 Like I dance, I bust out, like I go crazy, but it's not structural. 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:02.079 No, I can't either. 00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:02.880 All right. 00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:15.119 Well, as we close this out, the tangle, I ask every guest what they're currently tangled in that they're loving, immersing themselves in, binge watching, reading, activity, anything you love, and then anything that's annoying or frustrating that you need to get untangled from. 00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:15.760 Okay. 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:16.960 Um, reading. 00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:19.039 I've been reading a lot of Ann Tyler. 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:20.079 Wow. 00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:21.519 Such an incredible writer. 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:27.760 It's like so like zooms in on just the little things, and you just go, oh, that's like a painting. 00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:33.199 Like uh, I'm reading um right now, Audition by I can't remember her name. 00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:36.079 Um, but yeah, always reading a lot of stuff. 00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:37.280 Memoir audition? 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:38.400 It's not a memoir. 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:38.960 Okay. 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:39.280 No. 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:41.679 Barbara Walters has a book called No, no, no. 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:42.239 That's not it. 00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.400 It's uh um, yeah. 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:47.440 Oh, the correspondent masterclass in storytelling. 00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:48.239 Absolutely beautiful. 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:49.760 So you're more of a reader. 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:50.960 Are you binge watching anything? 00:37:51.280 --> 00:37:56.320 Yeah, I am a more reader, but here this is an I like I don't watch comedies per se that much. 00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:02.000 Sometimes some there's a you know select few and and a lot of British comedies that I've loved. 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:11.519 But we just drove six hours home from Arizona and I binged Shmigadoon and I was like, this is fucking brilliant. 00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:19.039 Like we tried watching it when it came, and like my husband was so sort of like, you know, against it. 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:23.039 And when you're watching with the wrong person, sometimes you just don't, it

doesn't come through. 00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.000 I'm very hyper aware of like other people's experience. 00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:29.679 I want people everyone in the room to be happy or I can't focus. 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:37.199 So just like with my earbuds and my phone and now finishing it on the treadmill, I I wish there was more. 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:42.079 It's brilliant, it's so funny, it's so smart, it's so well done. 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:43.360 Did you see the musical? 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:48.320 I didn't see it, no, but my childhood friend Jen Samart is starring in it now. 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:55.519 And um I was I was in a production of The Boyfriend with her when I was in college that my mother directed. 00:38:55.760 --> 00:39:07.519 It was like community/slash college theater, and somebody quit, and my mother tapped me to come and do a big song and dance musical with two rehearsals. 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.800 It's like literally a nightmare, like a literal nightmare. 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:13.519 And she was the lead and she was fantastic. 00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.079 But yeah, she she did shows with my mom. 00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.880 Well, Jen Smart, uh that voice on her. 00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:20.960 She's gonna go places and look at her now. 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:21.440 I know. 00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.039 I I wish there was more seasons too. 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:29.920 And I actually had uh um Julie Klausner on this show and she wrote for Schmigadoon and they wrote a whole third season, they just didn't shoot it. 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:39.440 I saw her name, and I'm gonna I'm gonna message her and tell her that I kind of we've connected on uh on Instagram or Instagram friends. 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.159 Yeah, I saw her name and I was like, ah Yeah, the resurgence, maybe it'll bring it back. 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:45.440 Can they please do it? 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.360 It's it's written genius. 00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:52.480 Yeah, it's g and it has Aaron Tabate, who is like, I'm kind of brilliant, brilliant. 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:53.280 Oh my gosh, yes. 00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:57.519 We have a thing going on. 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.519 No, I just I I do actually just really like his He's incredible. 00:40:01.760 --> 00:40:02.239 He's incredible. 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:03.440 And so are you, Laura. 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:04.639 This has been such a pleasure. 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:05.440 Really? 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.119 Yes, it has been. 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:08.719 It has been a pleasure, actually. 00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.559 It's been very easy to talk to you. 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.199 You're so easy to speak with, and yeah, I've been a fan for decades, and I just so appreciate you taking the time. 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.000 And it was nice to speak with you about stuff other than the comeback and get to know you a bit more and you can't do it. 00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:21.199 Oh good, you know. 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.760 I was like beforehand, I was like, what are we gonna talk about? 00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:25.920 Who's interested in like me? 00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:27.599 So many people. 00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:31.760 I mean, just look at your your co-stars on Last Man Standing. 00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:32.559 Everyone loves you. 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:33.599 Right, exactly. 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:34.239 Those girls. 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:40.000 Um, and can I just say, you are uh I don't want to be inappropriate, don't call HR, but you are so handsome. 00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:40.960 Oh my gosh. 00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:41.840 Laura, stop. 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:43.199 Beautifully appreciated. 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:44.880 I love a nice smile. 00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.119 I mean, I'm I'm I'm trying to take care of myself. 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:48.639 I started at 30, so that was good. 00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.199 I'm in my 40s now, so my mom taught me well. 00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:52.960 You started at 30, what? 00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:57.280 Well, like skincare and actually like trying to pay attention to like what I'm doing. 00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:58.800 I had no like lessons on that. 00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.679 I mean, you look fantastic too, my gosh. 00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:02.719 They're your whole family. 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:03.599 You don't age. 00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:04.800 Thank you. 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:05.840 Thank you, Lord.