Full Transcript for Source Material #427 - Bruce Wayne Fugitive - Part 3

00:01:55.480 It's a jail and a prison, and it's got men 36 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:57.480 and women in it. Yeah. I don't think he didn't 37 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:59.319 last long in prison. He got like a fight and 38 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:02.640 was like a mad here, right, gonna I'm gonna get 39 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:04.519 found out that I'm Batman's i gotta get out of here, 40 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:06.680 like him, breaking out of prison made sense to me, 41 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:09.919 but like I said, he yeah, if I remember correctly, 42 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:12.439 because I argued about this in the last podcast that 43 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:16.639 we did that they were holding him without bail at 44 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:21.319 Blackgate because Blackgate also holds pre trial prisoners, which isn't 45 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:24.120 a real thing, and people were like, soop, it's just 46 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:26.360 a comic book. But no, it's dumb and it doesn't 47 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:31.240 make sense. So he broke out of Blackgate. He was 48 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:37.759 technically still in jail because remember jail is non convicted people, 49 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:41.840 people back on appeal from prison, people sentenced to under 50 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:46.120 a year. So he escapes from jail and then leaves 51 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:50.960 her fucking hanging, like them charging her with aiding and 52 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.759 a betting because they've charged Like, I'm just thinking about 53 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:57.120 this in terms of how the law works. I don't 54 00:02:57.120 --> 00:02:59.759 think they could charge her because they don't have a 55 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:04.039 canction on him. They can't prove that he murdered this woman. 56 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:08.560 They have enough of a charging. I also argued they don't. 57 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:10.439 But I don't want to get into the weeds in 58 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.439 this and get out my little you know, I told 59 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.759 Erica before the show tonight, I saw TikTok about how 60 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.439 there's a movement now to get rid of college as 61 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:23.680 a prerequisite to take exams for professional professions. So like, 62 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.120 you wouldn't have to graduate law school to take the bar. 63 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.280 You could just sign up and pay the money and 64 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:33.960 study and take the bar now you're a lawyer. There's 65 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:37.759 there's like a mass movement now to basically do away 66 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:41.960 with college that it isn't necessary for a lot of things. 67 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.719 But that's a conversation for another day. So I said, 68 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:49.639 if I could just study and take the bar, I 69 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.879 absolutely would in the next twenty to thirty years that 70

00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:54.759 I may or may not be alive. I would love 71 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:57.039 to be a lawyer and possibly work my way to judge. 72 00:03:57.680 --> 00:03:59.439 I think, why are you looking at me like that? 73 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.919 I'm just thinking of what artificial intelligence is going to 74 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:05.000 do to that whole field. 75 00:04:05.439 --> 00:04:08.199 Yeah, well that's where that whole line of logic came from. 76 00:04:08.439 --> 00:04:11.719 That due to AI, college will become necessary and people 77 00:04:11.759 --> 00:04:15.120 will start to change things to where you can get 78 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.600 to the gateway for professions by just taking tests, right, 79 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:20.079 because you can learn the stuff on your own if 80 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.040 you really need to anyway. So yeah, I would absolutely 81 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:24.639 hit the bar and try to be a lawyer. I 82 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.959 actually think I could do it. My point is I'm 83 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:28.920 just thinking about, like he sent the legal process of 84 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:32.839 how this whole book operated, where they had charging documents 85 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:36.720 on him based on you're holding a dead body, you're clearly. 86 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:43.160 The yeah, because it was a little suss to begin with, right, 87 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:45.079 But that's why I think it's just like, do they 88 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.240 then have enough evidence to charge her with aiding in 89 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.079 a bedding when they don't really have a conviction for 90 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:52.399 murder just yet? Right? 91 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:55.560 They have a charge, Dude, We charge people all the time. 92 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.759 You can get charged for all kinds of stuff. Whether 93 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:02.600 or not it holds up in or even like holds 94 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:08.040 up against in a preliminary hearing is subject to question. 95 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:13.319 So like, there's a whole legal process that it like 96 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:17.160 there's a whole thing where where Daniels is like, there's 97 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:21.839 an there's a whole lost art to charging somebody and 98 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:25.959 making sure you have evidence that's gonna survive discovery that's 99 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.480 gonna survive a preliminary hearing that even makes it to 100 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.639 a jury trial. And we don't do it because we 101 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:33.800 don't really do a good job of collecting evidence. We 102 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:35.560 do a great job of beating the fuck out of 103 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:38.279 people and throwing them in jail in trumping up charges. 104 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:40.519 But I'll tell you I worked, Like I said, I've 105 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:43.439 worked in a

jail where guys came in and oh yeah, 106 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:45.680 they were charged with everything under the fucking the sun. 107 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:49.519 And then I would look at their charges because it's 108 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:53.920 public domain months later and like everything was like thrown out, 109 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:58.199 thrown out, thrown out, thrown out. D Yeah, Like you 110 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.639 come into jail Trump with a dozen charges, you'll leave 111 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:05.240 with maybe one if that I see. I've seen entire 112 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:08.920 hole cases fucking thrown out. Wow, because you don't have it, 113 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.399 because everything is evident if you don't have enough evidence 114 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.360 to support it, but just throws it out. 115 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:16.639 It's one thing that I was kind of like looking 116 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:21.000 forward to when we were going into this part of 117 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:25.160 the story, was we're going to get I was all excited. 118 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.879 I'm like, we're going to get the court proceedings, Like 119 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.439 I was expecting this like a law and order show. Okay, 120 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:34.000 they've arrested the guy. I'm waiting for the court case 121 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:36.959 to happen. And we do not get that at all. 122 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:41.240 We don't get an issue of legal scholars. No, And 123 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.800 I think they know that that's probably a weakness. Plus 124 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:45.639 they have all these other parts of the story they 125 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:46.079 have to tell you. 126 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:49.000 There's a lot of like, I don't know who's reading 127 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:50.759 Batman in two thousand and two. 128 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:51.600 But gotta be. 129 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.399 But I doubt it was people really interested in the 130 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:56.759 intricacies of legal the legal system. 131 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:58.959 Wow, but there's books that do that. 132 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.800 Though. As to my point, they may have been able 133 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:06.040 to charge her, but the story is she gets convicted 134 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:08.040 and goes away for life, because that would never happen. 135 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:10.560 First of all, I don't think they could get a 136 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:15.720 conviction in real life. I'm going around in away from 137 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.720 your actual question here. They need her to be functionally 138 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:22.160 for the story. They need her to be in prison 139 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:26.240 because they need her to for drama purposes. They need 140 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:30.399 her to feel like I was abandoned by Bruce after everything, 141 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:34.000 and then she reaffirms it. And then they wanted to 142 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:37.120 do this thing with check Me because they couldn't just 143 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:39.240 let the woman out of prison. She has to go 144 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:41.839 become a spy. I just want to talk about their 145 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.000 talk in the park because to me, that's like the 146 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.720 best part of this entire book. I'll be honest with Jesse. 147 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:50.639 Read through this entire trade. My favorite part is the 148 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:52.279 conversation they have in the park. 149 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:56.480 Yeah, I was actually just finding that issue because that 150 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:01.240 conversation that they have is very important because she points 151 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:07.040 out that Bruce kind of manipulated her into becoming part 152 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:12.800 of basically her Yeah, great, I'm his bodyguard. But then 153 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:17.879 he purposely allowed her to see the Batman costume so 154 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:21.879 she could join him, right, but as Batman. 155 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:24.120 When she it's like she threw it was like she 156 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:25.519 threw a wedding ring at him. It was like, I 157 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:28.839 didn't want to know your identity. I didn't want this life. 158 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:32.320 You just you manipulated me into it, and I assumed 159 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:35.720 you'd protect me, right, and then when it was convenient 160 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:37.320 for you, you threw me to the fucking walls. It was 161 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:40.919 not like you broke me out of prison. Yeah, I 162 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:43.000 completely saw her point of view. 163 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:46.879 Yeah, I'm looking through some of the panels here. She 164 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:49.279 like straight up punches him in the face. She is 165 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:53.039 mad about it, and she tells him I never wanted 166 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:54.519 your secrets, right. 167 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:57.399 I never. That's like she throws the ring back at him, 168 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:01.120 like I never wanted your secret. Look what it cost me. 169 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:04.080 Look what's happened to me because you gave me a 170 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.879 thing I didn't want in the first place. And it's 171 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:10.039 funny because the one good thing about these books se 172 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:12.600 clearly is not the legal stuff. But the one good 173 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:20.000 thing about the book is it really does interrogate what 174 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:23.600 it means to know Batman. Yeah, yeah, let's look at 175 00:09:23.679 --> 00:09:26.600 everybody that's part of the bad family. He shows up 176 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:31.000 to a circus, there's an accident, he adopts Dick, and 177

00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:34.919 then it's like, I'm gonna make you my sidekick, and 178 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:38.679 I'm gonna give you a boy's power fantasy, but I'll 179 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:43.840 protect you. And for the most part, nothing bad really 180 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:45.960 happens to Robin, short of every once in a while 181 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:49.279 you take a beating, But think about that, Like you 182 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:51.120 as a kid, You're like, you're like, oh my god, 183 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:54.639 this rich, powerful man's gonna make me his superhero sidekick. 184 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:56.639 Who says no to this? Right? 185 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:57.279 Right? 186 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:59.639 And then the whole split with Batman and Dick is 187 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.080 Dick is like, I don't always agree with what you're doing, 188 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:04.240 and You're like, if I don't agree with you, well 189 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.879 maybe I just go be my own person. I think 190 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:09.519 he becomes a cop at some point, kind of leaning 191 00:10:09.559 --> 00:10:11.960 into the I don't always want to be Yeah, I 192 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:13.240 don't always want to be night Wing. 193 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:17.200 Yeah he's a dick. He is a cop throughout this. 194 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:19.679 We're gonna have the blood Haven Police Department. Yeah, yeah, 195 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:20.759 he's And then. 196 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:23.279 The tragedy of Jason Todd, It's like, I'm gonna be 197 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:24.919 the same exact thing that this kid is trying to 198 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:27.519 steal tires off my batmobile and he gets a blown 199 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:28.240 up with a joker. 200 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.279 Yeah, beaten first. 201 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:34.720 And Barbara gets involved with batman, gets raped and shot 202 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:38.840 by the joker. Gordon gets shot. I don't think anything 203 00:10:38.840 --> 00:10:40.879 bad really happened to Tim Drake. But Tim Drake's already 204 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:44.279 like in the Dick camp of I'm not enthusiastic about 205 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:44.879 how he's. 206 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:47.879 Yeah, he is not as close you would think as 207 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:52.120 other Robins were. For sure, he very logical. 208 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.039 That's the point I'm saying. It's just like none of 209 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:58.399 these people like he gets some hits. I don't want 210 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:00.600 to sound like Jason and the Peter Pan argument, but 211 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.279 there is a bit of like grooming going on of 212 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.600 like you're getting these people at an impressionable age and 213 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:10.399 you're like, come with me to this fairy land where 214 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:12.799 where the rules don't matter, and we

go out at 215 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:16.080 night and it's and we're powerful and we can affect change, 216 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:19.159 And isn't this great? And like before, the kid like 217 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:25.240 has enough maturity to really make that decision. They're in 218 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:29.159 a they're they're in a pig hostage costume running across 219 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.919 rooftops at night. By the way, and have you seen 220 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:36.000 that costume. I'm gonna wear all like gray and blue 221 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:38.360 and black and everything and like blend into the shadows 222 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:40.279 and then I'm gonnadress you up like a fucking. 223 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:43.679 Target, right right, everyone's made. 224 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:50.840 That joke, but I so so Sasha Bordeaux Sasha Bordo's 225 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:55.159 line to Batman about I didn't ask for this. You 226 00:11:55.279 --> 00:11:57.720 kind of foisted it on me, and I adapted as 227 00:11:57.759 --> 00:11:59.759 best I could and did nothing but suffer for it. 228 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.679 You right, I mean powerful stuff. 229 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:06.039 And Batman did this, he did this on purpose. There, 230 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.080 I'll read this little bit of dialogues. And then I 231 00:12:08.120 --> 00:12:11.519 went through your luggage and found that compartment and your tools. Oh, 232 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:14.320 I thought I was so clever, like the world's greatest 233 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:17.399 detective would make a mistake like that, Like you didn't 234 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.360 want me to find them? Tell me I'm wrong, And 235 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:21.480 Bruce says. 236 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:24.360 Nothing, Well, think about Bruce, I can't be close to 237 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.639 anybody unless you're you're a costume superhero. Like. That's the 238 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.240 big takeaway from all of this is I'm so malformed 239 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:38.279 of a personality. I have such issues with intimacy and 240 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.279 relationship building that the only relationships I can have are 241 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.519 as vigilantes and fucked up. Thing to say about that character. 242 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:47.320 Right, And he even admits here that it was about 243 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.519 controlling her too. Yeah, he said, Yeah, I had to 244 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:51.840 control you, is what he says. 245 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:56.360 Yep. So, yeah, it's a clear PTSD symptom where you're 246 00:12:56.519 --> 00:12:59.080 it's it's hyper vigilance. It's I have to control the 247 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.600 environment and the peace people around me because I don't 248 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:02.879 want to be further injured. 249 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:07.480 Right, is so Sasha has come along from Sasha mccotpants 250 00:13:07.559 -->

00:13:09.200 whatever you called her last time. 251 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:14.440 I have not called her Sasha bedroom eyes. Once I 252 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:18.399 took this seriously, cut damn it? All right? 253 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:20.879 Good deal? All right? Well, then our next issue is 254 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.080 a real quick one, and I don't think we have 255 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:25.320 too much here to talk about. But I'll read the 256 00:13:25.320 --> 00:13:28.480 summary and Batman Gotham Night's number thirty two, twenty four 257 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:30.679 to seven is the name of the story. Bruce Wayne 258 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:34.440 resumes his public life after the fugitive ordeal, throwing himself 259 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:37.279 into a relentless hour by hour schedule that re establishes 260 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:41.840 his role as Gotham's civic backbone, reassuring the Wayne Enterprises board, 261 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:46.919 supporting employees with personal generosity, investing in community focused development, 262 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:50.840 visiting Lucius Fox's family, and funding law enforcement initiatives and 263 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.879 Blood Haven, while quietly demonstrating the ripple effect of Batman's 264 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:58.480 influence on everyday lives from reformed criminals the citizens who 265 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:02.480 feel safer simply because Batman's out there. As the day 266 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:06.159 turns the night, Bruce becomes Batman, whose presence alone disrupts crime, 267 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:10.919 saves lives, mentors allies like Jim Tim Drake, aids the GCPD, 268 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.240 and even maintains a ritualistic connection with two Face playing 269 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:18.519 some chess before continuing his patrol into the early morning hours. 270 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.240 By dawn, with Gotham momentarily at peace, Bruce Wayne returns 271 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:25.360 to the manor to rest, completing a full cycle that 272 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.879 underscores his dual identity as both cities public benefactor and 273 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:35.799 it's unseen guardian, operating tirelessly around the clock. So yeah, real, 274 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.200 simple issue, just kind of showing you Batman's back, Bruce 275 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.240 Wayne's back, Batman never left, Bruce Wayne back, so life 276 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.799 and Gotham's back to normal. My other note was Tim 277 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:49.639 Drake like fighting the Nazis, which was pretty funny, lays 278 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:51.840 them all out and then spray paints losers all over him. 279 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:52.679 It's good stuff. 280 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:55.679 But anyway, nothing much to say there. You got anything 281 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:56.519 that you wanted to say? 282 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:00.080 Well, like to me if I'm making the

movie. The 283 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.919 first movie is Nightfall, The second movie is No Man's Land, 284 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:06.120 The third movie is this It's it's Murderer and Murder 285 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.600 and Fugitive could be one movie, gotch I end the 286 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:12.120 movie with that scene in the park and then everything 287 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.480 else is a montage. The narration above. It is like 288 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:18.639 when Batman and Bruce Wayne learned they can't be one 289 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.919 without the other and that the world is best served 290 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.000 with both of them doing the best they can, and 291 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.559 that's it. That's the end of the movie. That would 292 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:25.000 be the end. 293 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:28.039 Well. In Batman six oh six and six oh seven, 294 00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:31.320 we get death Wish for two parts one and two. 295 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.600 Uh put skim skims Kims. 296 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:39.440 David Kane set to testify about Vesper Fairchild's murder Batman 297 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:44.559 anticipates an assassination attempt and tracks a missing hitman dead 298 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:48.759 Shot to infiltrate security and attacks during Kine's transfer, detonating 299 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:53.559 explosives and sending guards plummeting from a bridge. Batman manages 300 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:55.919 to save both Kane and a guard, but Kane initially 301 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:59.600 embraces death, forcing Batman to carry him to safety while 302 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:04.279 vade dead shots relentless pursuit through Gotham. Their escape leads 303 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.600 to a final confrontation after a chaotic firefight with gun 304 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:10.759 runners or Caine, spurred by memories of his daughter Cassandra, 305 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:15.320 chooses to fight back, shooting dead Shot and surviving the attempt. 306 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:15.440 On his life. 307 00:16:15.879 --> 00:16:18.200 Though now seen as a victim rather than a culprit, 308 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.000 Kane refuses to expose who hired him, allowing the larger 309 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.519 conspiracy against Bruce Wayne to remain intact. As Batman reflects 310 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:29.240 on Caine's choice to live and the consequences that follow, 311 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:32.559 we kind of catch up with David Kine here, and 312 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.320 he definitely has a death wish, like he doesn't care 313 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:39.480 to live. And finally Bruce confronts him and says, look, 314 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:42.399 I'm trying to save your life, and he's like, there's 315 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:46.679 no life here worth saving, and Bruce is like, you've 316 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:50.919 got a daughter. You could do better here. Bud David Kane, 317 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:58.039 who is Batgirl's father, their relationship not the greatest, and 318 00:16:58.080 --> 00:16:59.720 we want to see as we get into the last 319 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.840 issue that that's going to come to the final resolution 320 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:06.000 of this whole story and this trade Cain. It feels 321 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.480 there's nothing else to live for, and Batman's trying to 322 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.640 bring him from back from the brink dead Shots showing 323 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.839 up here. When dead Shot first shows up, I didn't 324 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:17.680 know that was him. I should have figured it out. 325 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:20.599 He had these like a little wrist guns. I saw 326 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:22.680 it when I saw him in costume. I was like, Okay, yeah, 327 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:24.880 that's definitely dead Shot. I was able to figure that out, 328 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.440 But yeah, this is dead Shot shows up and he's 329 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:31.599 there to kill Cain. But I think one of the 330 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:35.119 funniest things that happens in this book is where Batman 331 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:37.279 has Cain and they're going to that he decides, well, 332 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.839 we're going to go through the basement of the next 333 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.519 building and get into the sewers and get the hell 334 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.079 out of here. And he blows a hole and there's 335 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.240 like three gun runners sitting around a table with guns 336 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:50.720 all around him, and it was a complete accident, and 337 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:52.640 so he ends up in a fight with them, and 338 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:54.880 then of course dead Shot catches up, and then Cain 339 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:57.720 and dead Shot have their Cain could have sat there 340 00:17:57.720 --> 00:17:59.680 and took a bullet right to the head, but he decides, 341 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:03.160 like said, he's he's seeing he's seeing his daughter. He's 342 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:06.400 starting to realize she is something worth living for. And 343 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:09.000 he fights back and shoots dead Shot square in the chest, 344 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:10.559 right in the target. It's so funny because right at 345 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.079 the beginning of the issue he says, you wear a 346 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:16.079 freaking target on your chest. It's like you're an idiot. 347 00:18:16.319 --> 00:18:19.119 But then at the end he shoots dead Shot. Kane 348 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:21.039 shoots a dead shot right in the chest, right in 349 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:22.920 that target. But anyway, go ahead, man. 350 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:26.599 I think about the silliness of comic book characters, where 351 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:30.599 artists and can people conceptualize these characters like

this is 352 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.039 funny books for kids. We have to make them lively. 353 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.000 So of course we're gonna have a guy who looks 354 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.039 like a penguin. You have a guy who's a clown, 355 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.279 a guy who's the Briddler, and he has question marks 356 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:42.559 all over him, and people dreading this in any way seriously, Like, 357 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:45.640 let's have the guy called dead shot walk around with 358 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:50.200 a fucking along the nose, don't you think? Oh yeah? 359 00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:53.720 But other than that, I think once the mystery was resolved, 360 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:57.680 in once the emotional conflict was resolved, I lost interest 361 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:58.440 in this one. Yeah. 362 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:01.559 This is very dedicatives of the first trade we read, 363 00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:07.079 where there probably five or six issues. Really didn't need 364 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:08.440 added on as. 365 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:11.559 An editor because it relates to the story. And you said, 366 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:15.160 like a lot of this is epilogue. Here's the thing. 367 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.759 This is an ongoing comic. This isn't a book. This 368 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:24.160 is a graphic novel. This ends after Sasha Bordeaux walks 369 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:27.000 away from Bruce, right, and they do the montage of 370 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:30.880 him reclaiming his Bruce Wayne identity. The book just ends there. 371 00:19:30.920 --> 00:19:33.039 That's where the story ends. You don't need any of 372 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.799 this stuff, however, that's not what this is. This isn't 373 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:39.640 a graphic novel. It's trade paperback that collects an ongoing story. 374 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.480 So for me, if you're an editor like, well, this relates, 375 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:44.839 I'll put it in there, right, And if you're editing 376 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:48.799 these books that are monthly, you're like, absolutely, you gotta 377 00:19:48.839 --> 00:19:51.000 keep the story going, what are the crumbs? Can we 378 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:54.200 blow up into another twenty two page issue? Right? 379 00:19:54.680 --> 00:20:00.359 This definitely fits more than the last issues of the 380 00:20:00.400 --> 00:20:02.640 previous graph or trade. 381 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.839 So here's the thing. Calling the Bruce Wayne Murderer is 382 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:09.400 a great story. How about just Bruce Wayne Murderer Part 383 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:13.559 one in part two? Right, if you're not gonna put 384 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.279 the whole thing, like you could see in the graphics 385 00:20:16.319 --> 00:20:20.200 behind us, this was the fugitive storyline, so I think 386 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:21.680 that was also part of it where the line of 387 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:24.400 demarcation was that clearly at some point they changed the 388 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:28.599 graphic from murderer to fugitive. I think if I'm the editor, 389 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:31.400 I honestly would have just called the whole thing Bruce 390 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:34.839 Wayne murderer and split in its volume one and it's 391 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:38.160 volume two, and I'm okay with where they ended it 392 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:41.160 if you don't use the words murderer and fugitive. Because 393 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.559 at the end of the book they're like, we are 394 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:48.359 going to solve this mystery, like he has told them 395 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:53.519 to fuck off. The emotional conflict is Bruce Wayne and 396 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:57.160 Dick fighting in the back cave, and then the resolution 397 00:20:57.599 --> 00:21:01.839 is we won't leave Mary and Marian Pippen to die 398 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:03.240 at the hands of the arc. We're going to go 399 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:08.440 after them. It's that it's I hear, I understand that 400 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:12.079 Bruce that Batman doesn't want us involved, but fuck him. 401 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:14.799 The right thing to do is to clear Bruce Wayne's name. 402 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:19.519 So that's what we're gonna do. And that little bit 403 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:22.279 of like, oh god, he really didn't do it. We 404 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:24.359 found out that because if you remember, the last trade 405 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:26.759 ends with they figured out someone was breaking into the 406 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:31.559 bat Cave. Yeah, and so that's actually, in retrospect, that's 407 00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:33.720 actually a perfect place to end the story if you 408 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:36.720 don't break these up into murderer and fugitive. Right. The 409 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:40.240 problem wasn't like the emotional and narrative beat to the story. 410 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.200 The problem was the titles. 411 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:45.200 Pretty much well rolling right into the final issue here, 412 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:49.039 which is Batgirl number thirty three, Father's Day. Cassandra Caine 413 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:51.480 is summoned by Batman to assist briefly on a case 414 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:54.400 where she proves her precision and power by incapacitating a 415 00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:57.960 dangerous meta human, but is quickly dismissed until she independently 416 00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:01.799 intervenes and Batman pursuit of a suspect who mentions a 417 00:22:01.799 --> 00:22:05.720 mysterious figure named Alpha, and this Alpha is known only 418 00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:10.440 to her father, David Kane. Shaken, Cassie turns to Oracle, 419 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:13.359 who helps her infiltrate Blackgate Prison under the guise of 420 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:16.279 a reporter to

confront him face to face with the 421 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:19.160 man who raised her as a weapon. Cassie is overwhelmed 422 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.119 by memories of her childhood and lashes out, attacking him, 423 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:25.960 ultimately threatening to kill him if he takes another life. 424 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.319 Despite her anger, she pauses long enough to ask a 425 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:33.039 deeply personal question which came up earlier that day, what's 426 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.039 her birthday, which David answers, revealing a rare human connection 427 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.559 between the two. Cassandra returns to the bat Cave, expecting 428 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.640 reprimand buttons because she was always supposed to go in there. 429 00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:47.759 An Oracle is like, he'll talk to you, and she 430 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:49.559 was all she had to do is ask a question, 431 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:52.240 and she couldn't get through the question, and as she 432 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.000 about as try to ask it a second time, she 433 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:59.279 just decides to fly through the glass and attack him instead. 434 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:01.480 So yeah, she goes back to the batcave and she's 435 00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.759 waiting for Batman to be like, what the hell were 436 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.559 you doing? And she was pleasantly surprised when Batman says, no, 437 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:10.920 it's okay, I understand. Forget about it, and he offers 438 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:15.160 her a gift, and he reframes the moment as her birthday. 439 00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.599 It's the day that Cassie decided to become Batgirl, and 440 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:23.240 it's a day worth recognizing. And that is where we end. 441 00:23:24.400 --> 00:23:25.920 Bruce Wayne Fugitive. 442 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:28.920 I have a major problem with the trade paperbacks cover. 443 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:30.920 Okay, look at that. 444 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.720 Let's talk about this for a second. The implication is, like, 445 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:37.240 it's like the End of the Dark Night, where like 446 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:39.359 Batman's on the run from the cops because they think 447 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:41.960 that Batman murdered. I think it's Harvey Dent. 448 00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:44.839 I see where you're going here. 449 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:48.920 So you would think just based on like the cover 450 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:54.720 of Batman Murderer is Bruce Wayne in the shadows and 451 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:57.039 he's in pursuit and it's a really cool looking cover. 452 00:23:58.920 --> 00:24:00.720 Look at this bullshit here. 453 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.920 Yeah, makes you if somebody knows Bruce Wayne's Batman. 454 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:07.880 That's one implication. Have about the other one is that 455 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.559 the cops are after

Batman somehow. 456 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:14.240 Right, why would they be after Batman? 457 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.279 And here's the thing, They're never after Batman. They're barely 458 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:21.480 after Bruce by this point, that's true. Do you see 459 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.559 what I'm trying to tell you, Jesse, Like my problem 460 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:28.240 with this book, in this whole story is a lot 461 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:33.559 of what made it interesting was abandoned early on in 462 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.079 the story, and there was a lot of filler like 463 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:39.400 Pee King Duc Batman, and a lot of this and 464 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:44.039 the stuff with Kane like the last thing I'm gonna say, 465 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:48.599 and then let you close out the show. This both, 466 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:54.960 I think shows the problems of an ongoing comic going 467 00:24:55.119 --> 00:25:00.519 family of comics. Yeah, is you have to stretch things 468 00:25:00.599 --> 00:25:03.920 out and there and it ends up lacking narrative cohesion, 469 00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:09.160 and then when you gather them all up for one story, 470 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:14.240 it's there are things that should have been followed up on. 471 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:16.200 There are threads that are just kind of left dangling 472 00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:19.400 out there that aren't really dealt with. So if you 473 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:22.400 pitch me an idea of we're gonna do like a 474 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:27.119 year long story where Bruce Wayne is convicted as a 475 00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:30.000 frame for murdering Best for Fairchild, and it's like a 476 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.160 giant mystery as to who did it, and there's gonna 477 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:35.279 be a lot of like bred herrings and subterfuge, and 478 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:37.839 like the bat Family's not gonna know if he did it, 479 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:40.920 and Batman's not gonna tell him anything because he can't 480 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:43.240 because if he talks too much, he doesn't know who 481 00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:46.200 he can trust. Maybe somebody from the bat family framed him. 482 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.200 Who knows. So, like, that's the crux of this thing. 483 00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.559 That's a great story that should have been a graphic novel, 484 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:57.599 not this year long collection of a dozen different titles. 485 00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:01.599 Trying to keep this beach ball in the air. Yeah, 486 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:05.599 I think a second pass and keep it tightly wound 487 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:08.960 and very isolated from the actual ongoing comic books and 488 00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:11.680 just make it one cohesive story. I think there was 489 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:16.720 a lot here. I think it suffers from over exposure. Yeah, 490 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:18.759 but you can't get out of it because it's an 491 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.200 ongoing comic book series. 492 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:24.279 Right, dude. I think again, this is the early two thousands, 493 00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:28.079 were just coming out of the nineties here, My goodness. 494 00:26:28.279 --> 00:26:30.640 If there was one thing that I remember the nineties for, 495 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:33.400 and I think it was the one thing that broke 496 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:36.519 your was it you or your dad from collecting comics? 497 00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:40.519 And that was the Yes, Yeah, it was the multi 498 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:44.680 title crossover, where in order to read one story you had. 499 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:45.680 To have multiple covers. 500 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:51.680 By the way, yeah, he didn't like variant covers, but yeah, 501 00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:55.359 you had to purchase if you wanted to follow this story. 502 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:57.920 The low puzzle pieces at the top, like that, this 503 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.079 is Bruce Wayne, fugitive Bruce Wayne or whatever. 504 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:03.960 I think about, like Acts of Vengeance, Actavengines didn't even 505 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:07.240 have a central title, right, like Secret Wars or Secret 506 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:12.079 Wars two or Inferno or I can't even think of 507 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:13.920 what the other big crossovers were at the time. 508 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.039 Inferno was definitely over X Men, X Factor, Excaliburate. 509 00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:19.839 I didn't have a central title, no, but the. 510 00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.920 Other Secret Wars War two, Yeah, that definitely did Crisis 511 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.279 on Infinite Earth's I touched other things, but it definitely 512 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:28.359 had a core title Civil War Civil War yep. 513 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:32.279 So at the very least, if you didn't want to, theoretically, 514 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:36.799 you could have just read the individual core title of 515 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.920 whatever the major of the event title and gotten just 516 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:43.680 enough of a gist that you could get through the story. 517 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.440 If you wanted to be insane person and buy every 518 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.839 single comic. What a scam. If you could just buy 519 00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:52.599 every single comic that had in a little corner whatever 520 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.480 the stupid title was, you could, but you didn't have 521 00:27:55.559 --> 00:27:57.519 to and if you just wanted to, like I just 522 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:02.039 want to read Spider Man, Iron Man and Black Widow 523 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:04.880 and I'm not going to read anything else, you could 524 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.839 still do that. You didn't necessarily need to read every 525 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.480 single thing associated

with the event. And when they made 526 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.119 it to where you kind of had to, that's when 527 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:15.920 my father was like, I'm not falling for your fucking 528 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.680 scam anymore, right right, and just take your variant covers 529 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:19.599 and shove them up your. 530 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.440 Ass and believe it or not. You can see on 531 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.400 the covers here if you look at the top right, 532 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:28.119 each of the top right if it was part of 533 00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:31.599 Bruce Wayne fugitive and possibly murderer, I don't know, but 534 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:36.480 they have a puzzle piece. If you collected all the issues, 535 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.400 I don't think you could detach the puzzle piece. But 536 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:41.680 if you collected all the issues with all the puzzle 537 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:46.240 pieces together, that show you Luther are those puzzle pieces 538 00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.079 constructed together that are on the top of these issues. 539 00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:52.359 So that's the big gimmick of some sort that was 540 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:54.759 I think that's actually pretty cool because you finally get 541 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.960 the big person who's behind everything, but you still you 542 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:01.480 don't get much resolution to it anyway. You hear, Oh yeah, Luther, 543 00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.519 did it all right? Let's move on. But I asked 544 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.039 for myself as far as like, did I enjoy this? 545 00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.359 I did enjoy the bit of mystery behind it, aside 546 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:12.799 from its shortcomings and all the I think some of 547 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.920 the strongest stuff me personally, I feel like happened in 548 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.319 this volume than it did in the first volume. I 549 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.519 think the standout obviously in our first volume that we 550 00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:26.680 discussed is Batman versus Dick Grayson, and that was a 551 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:31.359 great moment where these two had come to blows over 552 00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:36.079 how Bruce was handling things. And then now I think 553 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.960 that the I shouldn't even say this because again this 554 00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:43.519 was eighteen issues, but man, did it wrap up pretty quickly? 555 00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:45.559 Did Bruce Wayne figure out his shit? 556 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:46.359 And two issues? 557 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:47.839 He figured it out pretty quickly. 558 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.640 Definitely tell like this is written for an audience that 559 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.720 likes the punchy stuff oh yeah, and is not really 560 00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:55.200 interested in emotional beats. 561 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.240

I think as time goes on again this is the 562 00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.440 early two thousands, As we move our way into like 563 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.920 the twenty tens and stuff, people start to realize Tom 564 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.880 King's want to come along and give us PTSD flash 565 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:09.559 at some point and We're going to have a big 566 00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:14.799 discussion about that. But the things are getting there so anyway, 567 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:15.880 But I enjoyed myself. 568 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:17.279 I'm not unhappy that we did this. 569 00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.200 Yeah, this is something that I would have never read 570 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.240 on my own, so I'm glad I have the opportunity 571 00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:22.160 to do so and discussion. 572 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:23.920 At no point did I throw the book. 573 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.799 That's good. That's always nameless. 574 00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:33.640 That's it's not worth the nameless. We're fine, all right, 575 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:34.359 Well there it is. 576 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:36.599 That's our discussion. Man, Let's go in and get into 577 00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.440 plugs here. What do you got going on over there? 578 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.119 Well, it's a source material live after all, So this 579 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:43.920 is These are going to be live plugs. We are 580 00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.880 recording this on March tway ninth tomorrow. Myself and Robert 581 00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:50.680 and Jason presumably are going to review ready or not 582 00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.000 to here? I commedisawt today? It was fine? Fine? 583 00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:56.440 Did mourn Hill show up? Is it all? 584 00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:08.680 I got that? Reference? Hey? Thursday, myself and Shay Tate 585 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.400 are gonna do a Kevin Klein live performance trio, The 586 00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.960 Pirates of Penzance Lovely, which is about the life of 587 00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:19.759 Cole Porter and a prairie home companion. Next week is Easter. 588 00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.240 You and I will be back a week from tonight. 589 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:25.920 We're gonna look at Happy season one and two. I 590 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.720 have finished season one. I gotta start season two. Season 591 00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:30.640 one more or less the book with a lot of 592 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:34.319 stuff added because it's television. Apparently season two was just 593 00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:36.680 the dim doing their own shit, them trying to like 594 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.200 keep this TV show on the air. Really, there is 595 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.359 no season three. Yeah, there is no season get it. 596 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:46.440 The fucking one mini series have been done with it. 597 00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.880 But whatever. Well, week from Monday, myself, Robert

Alexis, and 598 00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.400 then possibly Zach we'll be doing the Super Mario Brothers 599 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.960 Galaxy movie Universe called and then on Thursday the ninth, 600 00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:05.400 myself and Robert will be reviewing the movie Bullwarth because 601 00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:10.640 I want him to see Bulworth. That's interesting. Yeah, I 602 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.759 can't remember. He came in the wake of something else 603 00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:15.079 that we had done, and I might have even scheduled 604 00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:16.799 it with somebody else, and then it was like, nope, 605 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.039 I don't want to record with anybody else, So Robert's 606 00:32:19.039 --> 00:32:19.759 getting Bulwarth. 607 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.240 This is where Warren Baty becomes like a He's obviously 608 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.839 a politician, but he's also a rapper or something or 609 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.079 they try to do something with his image or my Yeah. 610 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.160 Yeah, it's like him and Halle Barry and I think 611 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:33.119 somebody else. And it's a weird movie. He directed it. 612 00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:37.000 Okay, it is definitely weird. I think I've watched part 613 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:37.200 of it. 614 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.960 It's kind of up there with Bamboozled, with one of 615 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:42.880 those movies I saw when it came out and loved 616 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.599 it and never watched it again. Okay, So I have 617 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.759 this great affection for this movie that I saw like 618 00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:50.759 once upon a time, and I want to rewatch it 619 00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:52.759 all these years later and share it with a friend 620 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:56.359 that I think will truly appreciate black cinema the way 621 00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:57.319 Robert Winfrey does. 622 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:01.799 He does and can't. You can't get him to stop 623 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:02.720 posting about it. 624 00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:04.960 Robert Winfree's two blocked too strong. 625 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:07.160 He's too legit to quit. 626 00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:08.319 That's correct. 627 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:12.279 Please introduce him as too legit to quit. 628 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.200 So, yeah, that's what we're doing in the next few weeks. 629 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.400 All right, it sounds like a good time. Well, hey, yeah, 630 00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.319 I should have took that time. Pull up my calendar. 631 00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.640 But listen, ladies and gentlemen, right here on the Source 632 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:30.559 Material Comics podcast feed, you can hear me and Mark 633 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.680 radlic talk. I think we did. We just talked Cobra 634 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:38.160 Commander as when we're recording this January. Yeah, we we 635 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:40.759 just talked that and that was the first book of. 636 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.680 The Here our next social material recordings. It's gonna be 637 00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.319 another Hefty one. It's May there. We're gonna talk Incredible 638 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.880 Hercules Volume one, Hefty. 639 00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:56.119 Hefty cent Sack Tomorrow is a syndicated source material for Daredevil, Daredevil, 640 00:33:56.160 --> 00:34:00.720 Man Without Fear, and the Unspoken Issues podcast. Last time 641 00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.240 we talked was last week where we talked about the 642 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:06.440 pole winner for ninety six number ones and that was 643 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:10.400 our February poll and that was Mister Miracle number one 644 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.400 from nineteen ninety six, February of ninety six. I me 645 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.440 and Evan recorded yesterday a little bit of the Snap 646 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:20.840 Material podcast where we talk Marvel Snap and we're going 647 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.639 to record again here at some point here in the future. 648 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.360 So with that being said, that's all I got. Mark 649 00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.239 rad let's take us out of here. Everybody, thanks for 650 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:30.599 joining us. That's Mark Radleich, I'm Jesse Starcher. Have a 651 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.039 good one. You'd well be safe, behave. 652 00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.199 Thanks for joining us. All of this would not be 653 00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:39.320 possible without W two m net dot com, so make 654 00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:42.519 sure to seek them out for more podcasts. If you 655 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.159 enjoyed what you heard today, please feel free to share, 656 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.320 and we look forward to entertaining you again. 657 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:47.599 Sim