Full Transcript for Source Material #426 - Bruce Wayne Fugitive - Part 2

he 68 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:18.920 is released. Yeah, he's just released. You're just freed. The 69 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:23.079 problem is he's escaped from prison, which is a felony 70 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:25.560 in and of itself. So it's like they may don't 71 00:04:25.639 --> 00:04:28.480 have a murder charge on him anymore, but they absolutely 72 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:31.560 have to breaking out of prison charge right out of jail, 73 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.240 whatever it was. And they don't address that at all, 74 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:38.759 and they don't deal with the fact that they absolutely 75 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:43.560 would have overturned Sasha Bordeau's conviction in light of new 76 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:48.720 evidence that somebody else confessed and that none of the 77 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:50.759 charges at that point are relevant. You didn't aid in 78 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:54.000 a better murderer, right, which, by the way, you don't 79 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:55.160 get life. You don't get life. 80 00:04:55.199 --> 00:04:58.839 Four. Yeah, there was some real Like I thought that 81 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:00.160 was pretty extreme. 82 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:02.759 That the world that world these people inhabited is like 83 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:05.519 for the purposes of making these stories. It's so upside 84 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.279 down and stupid. It sometimes takes me out of the book, 85 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:09.399 Like there are parts of this that I like, and 86 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:10.639 then there are parts of them just like, this is 87 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:13.079 so dumb. But they wanted to make her an agent, 88 00:05:13.120 --> 00:05:16.680 a fucking shield or whatever. It was so checkmate, so 89 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:19.040 they have to leave her in prison and go through 90 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:21.079 all that. I'll get to that when you get to it. 91 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:25.480 But it's dumb. So here here's the problem. If I 92 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:27.720 had known this was connected to No Man's Land, I 93 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:29.560 probably would have. I don't think we need to go 94 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.519 all the way back to Nightfall because Azrael doesn't play 95 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:34.319 that bigger role in this. But I do think that 96 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:38.920 we should have read No Man's Land first. To Lex Luthor, 97 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:40.480 to Bruce Wayne would have been nice. 98 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.560 Yeah, it's it's touched on a little bit, like how 99 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:47.920 Luther apparently was upset because Wayne made either Wayne made 100 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:49.639 some comments or something about Luthor. 101 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:53.959 I can't remember blocked Luthor from like rebuilding Gotham And Okay, 102 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:57.240 so this whole plan is hashed because Luthor was rebuffed 103 00:05:57.279 --> 00:06:01.120

and his ego was bruised. I would have liked to 104 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:05.199 have seen Lex Luthor in the book. Then, well, if 105 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:08.279 you're going to implicate Lex Luthor and being the mastermind 106 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:12.839 behind this whole murder refugitive storyline, he should have been 107 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.920 in the book. This should have been a confrontation. It's 108 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:18.720 like pointed at from a thousand miles away. I never 109 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:22.519 really dealt with. Yeah, now I want to read the 110 00:06:22.600 --> 00:06:27.879 books that deal with Batman confronting Lex Luthor. Yeah, and 111 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:31.680 we're Superman and all this. I swear there's a book. 112 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:35.680 Did we read a book where Batman like mess with 113 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.319 Lex Luthor, like his robots or something. Maybe I'm thinking 114 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.639 something different, like maybe it was WayneTech had developed some 115 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:46.399 type of like security robots and Luther and sabotaged them 116 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:50.040 or something like that. Anyway, Yes, yeah, this is something 117 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:51.879 that happened. I'm pretty sure happens after this. 118 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:57.800 But we did the Luther book, the one was it Luther? 119 00:06:58.879 --> 00:06:59.480 Maybe it was? 120 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:03.639 You might be right, but anyway, Yeah, you're right, I 121 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:07.800 want to see Bruce Wayne slash Batman deal out some comeup. 122 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.000 AND's yeah, I would like to see. Well that's the thing, like, 123 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.120 to me, a better story or and I don't even 124 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:14.639 know if there's one out there that, like from a 125 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:17.000 different book that's just not included in this story where 126 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:21.480 like Bruce Wayne runs against Lex Luthor for president or 127 00:07:21.600 --> 00:07:23.639 like runs for senator or something, and he's just like 128 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.639 out or he's like, oh gosh, what is the billionaire 129 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.600 that funds all the stupid free Palace life protests or whatnot? 130 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:32.480 But Bruce Wayne, is that like like funding like this 131 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.680 massive anti Lex Luthor protest movement stuff like billboards and 132 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:38.800 shit like that to me would have been more interesting. 133 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:42.199 But I'm a hundred So if people listening to this 134 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:44.360 podcast like, no, we just want to see Batman punched up, 135 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:45.040 what's wrong with you? 136 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:48.079 And the thing is this probably again goes back to 137 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:53.759 what you were calling out earlier. They can string things 138 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.040 out in this form of comic books. And that's why 139 00:07:57.160 --> 00:07:59.959 when I was like, how come he is not completely 140 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:04.720 consumed with trying to get even or do something with 141 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:05.480 Lex Luthor? 142 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:08.439 But he doesn't really mention that's like Lex Luthor as 143 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:11.480 president thing. I'm sure it was dealt with a lot 144 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:14.680 in the Superman books, but like that should have been 145 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:18.279 a bigger deal. And again, neither one of us knows. 146 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:21.680 People reading comic books contemporaneously might be able to point 147 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:23.199 to something where it's like no, no, no, it's dealt 148 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:26.120 more with this book and that book. Who knows. But 149 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:27.720 I can only speak to the story that we read, 150 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:31.439 and I was missing. If you again, if he's the 151 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.919 mastermind behind Bruce Wayne being framed for murder, he has 152 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.360 to be part of the story and he's not, and 153 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:39.159 that bothered me. 154 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:44.159 Right, But they also had a mystery that they're trying 155 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.399 to make it a successful mystery. And if you would 156 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:51.279 have seen Lex Luthor in book four, then you probably 157 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:53.159 would have been like, okay, I might you know, have 158 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:54.080 to introduce. 159 00:08:53.879 --> 00:08:57.120 Him until now. Once David Kine admitted he was working 160 00:08:57.159 --> 00:08:58.559 for President Luthor. 161 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.080 Okay, so you're fine with that, You're fine. What's keeping 162 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:01.879 him out of Yeah? 163 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:04.559 And I don't need to see him until now, Okay, gotcha, 164 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.799 everything that happened up to this point, I'm fine with 165 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:10.159 him not you know, I don't need to see you 166 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:14.320 know what is it the that was Vince McMahon. Stupid 167 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:18.879 thing with Steve Austin, you know, the higher power, Like 168 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.399 I didn't need to see the higher power until now, 169 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:23.960 but if the higher power, it's like it was me, 170 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:28.080 bat Man, it was me all along. It's like, oh god, 171 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.039 it's like Cluther. There should have been a confrontation between 172 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.200 Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor and we have let's see 173 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.000 I maybe do like a thing like in The Wire 174 00:09:37.039 --> 00:09:39.440 where he's just

sitting outside the fucking White House, which's 175 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.759 like you'll see you just in five minutes. An hour 176 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:43.879 goes by. This is like it's just five more minutes, 177 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:47.120 like three hours. He's just fucking sitting there, like, damn it, 178 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.559 he's the president. What do you want from us? Yeah? Yeah, 179 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:52.120 you know what season of The Wire. 180 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:55.360 That was, Oh yeah, we have seven more issues in 181 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:58.759 this third part. And just like you said, there isn't 182 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.720 much drive to go and get Lex Luthor. It's more like, okay, 183 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.480 well I've got to bring the most immediate. 184 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:08.759 They feel more with the Sasha Pordo stuff. 185 00:10:08.879 --> 00:10:12.399 And Cassandra Caine and David Kane and gotta get him 186 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:12.919 taken care of that. 187 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:15.320 That fucking annoyed me too. It was just like, oh, 188 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:17.679 you got me. There's a joke amongst some of my 189 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:20.200 older friends where they would go, oh you got me 190 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:23.799 cus On. That's kind of what he does. He's like, oh, 191 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.279 I've been found out and beat up. Well, I have 192 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:28.960 no more will to fight you, so I will just confess. 193 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:34.919 The fucking of week tea is this? Yep? Yep? Like that? 194 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:40.919 The resolution I think isolation. I'm fine with the way 195 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.600 the characters handle it. I think sucks. I feel well. 196 00:10:44.679 --> 00:10:47.000 I feel like Cassie had a bit of a hand 197 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:50.120 in it, like his his daughter who is definitely his 198 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:54.960 estrange daughter. She's Batgirl. He's David Kane, the assassin talks 199 00:10:55.039 --> 00:10:57.600 him into it, and it's like, you need to make 200 00:10:57.679 --> 00:10:59.759 this right, you need to make this right, and he's 201 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:02.200 like okay, and then he goes and confesses. So there's 202 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:05.200 a little bit of resistance but not much, and he 203 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:08.480 finally caves. He's like, okay, fine, Because there is a 204 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:12.000 big part of this story about David Kine, who just 205 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.679 gets kind of introduced here at the end, trying to 206 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:18.679 make right by his daughter who he has neglected trained 207 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:20.840 her as an assassin, and I think we're going to 208 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:24.159 find out later that he had killed her mom maybe, yeah, 209 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.600 but anyway, it's we'll see, we'll see how things go. Yeah, 210 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.120 my notes here, So I got asbats is crazy at 211 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:35.000 John Paul going to go and he's told by Saint 212 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.600 Dumas to go confront Lily, who is the head of 213 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:40.200 some order and it might be the Order of Saint 214 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:42.639 Dumas or whatever. But he goes in there and she 215 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:47.240 like resists, and he's like, oh you resist, huh, And 216 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.399 he like starts tearing her apartment apart, like peeling the 217 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:55.759 wallpaper off, destroying statues, tipping furniture, and then he's like 218 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.759 standing in this destroyed room and he goes, make me dinner. 219 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:04.919 That's the greatest thing. And she's like what, And she 220 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:06.720 goes and makes some dinner. Of course he's gonna poison 221 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:09.279 his ass, but either way, I love the fact that 222 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:13.759 he just like straight up was just absolutely bonkers. We 223 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.639 have the introduction of Amherst here, who is kind of 224 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.759 a sort of a bit player. He's definitely involved in 225 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:22.600 the whole soccer Bordeaux thing. But yeah, he's the one 226 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:25.519 where we assume he's tied Luthor in some way. Yeah, 227 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.879 he's the guy that was put in, like he got 228 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:31.600 payment to Kane to do the deed pretty much and 229 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:34.000 then he was But I love the issue that he 230 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:37.440 is in, like he doesn't believe Batman's real, Like he's 231 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:40.120 like he's a myth. He's like some other agent that's 232 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.360 on his tail or something. He can't come to grips 233 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:46.399 with the fact that Batman makes fucking sense if this guy, 234 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:50.759 I assume by two thousand and two, Amanda Waller was 235 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:53.799 a thing and Suicide Squad was the thing, and they 236 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.679 absolutely do who fucking Batman is because half the people 237 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.720 in Blackgate or the Raft or whatever the. 238 00:12:59.759 --> 00:13:02.600 Fuck in prison they were shoving people like Harley Quinn 239 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:05.840 into That made the suicide Squad came from fucking Batman. 240 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.279 The other note I had here was Sasha's doubt, like 241 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:12.000 she's still on the fence thinking that Bruce Wayne slash 242 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:15.720 Batman had turned his back on her because he's out 243 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:19.600 of prison. She's heard this on the TV and Amherst 244 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:21.720 go on to her and saying, here, just sign this confession, 245 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:24.600 and she really struggles with that and the issue that 246 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:27.360 she's in, and then finally she makes the right decision 247 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:30.159 and she signs go to hell on every single piece 248 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:34.679 of paper, which is great. And yeah, this actually the 249 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:36.679 end of this issue, or she could be the end 250 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:39.960 of these parts which end on Batman number six O five. 251 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:41.559 That's the end of the fugitive storyline. 252 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:44.960 Yeah, like there is no Bruce Wayne fugitive after this 253 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:48.240 Part eighteen, I think is it. That's it, We're done. 254 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:52.080 I'm ready to get into part three. 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