Full Transcript for College Football Week 11 Reactions: Texas Wins A Thriller, Wake Forest Makes a Statement & Indiana Keeps Winning

No. 00:06:20 Speaker 4: Um, Good skill position play from both of these teams. But yeah, it was the finishing of the drives. Sam Levitt seems to drop back and have like a Chris Paul attitude where he's like, okay, I've taken the snap. 00:06:36 Speaker 1: Now you go here. You go here. 00:06:38 Speaker 4: No, keep going. Keep going. Uh-oh, I'm about to be sacked. Better throw it up into double coverage in the end zone. It was horrible quarterback play. Great defensive back play in this game, to be clear. And Texas, in the way that we've discussed, as winning is a skill, was able to pull it out late. They made the plays late. A sensational pass. Granted, not a forward pass from Arch Manning, which at one point he was 3 of 13 with three interceptions when throwing the ball five yards forward. But a beautiful swing pass to the far side of the field to Rayleek Brown, who gets into the corner of the end zone for the game-winning touchdown. to win this game for Texas in the most Texas possible way this season. But man, the journey was filled with detours and flat tires and oh, the bridge is out. We gotta take the long way around. That's what this game was. Good for Texas for surviving because once again, winning is a skill that Texas has managed to unearth once again. 00:07:42 Speaker 1: I can't help but look at this more from a bigger picture. Because these are two teams that we, that most of the college football public, had a lot of expectations riding on coming into this season. And though it has been rocky in certain moments for Texas, and for sure there are rough edges to that offense, defense remains very stout. But on offense, I think each game is a new journey unto itself. There is a resilience to this team that we are seeing Sark said it in the post game. They've got wins over five top 20 teams, whatever the number is. It's been a good season for Texas to fight through it in the manner that they have this resilience. Just a week after beating Mizzou 34 to 20, right? That was a game that wasn't doubt up until later. They pulled away late game. 00:08:37 Speaker 7: Yep. 00:08:37 Speaker 8: Right. 00:08:38 Speaker 1: It is a flawed team, but they keep finding ways to win four consecutive victories. Now they're eight and two. Obviously, very much in the playoff conversation, in the SEC conversation, they would need some help in order to get in. But Texas, for sure, is part of the important discussions that they had hoped to be part of. And on the LSU side, look, I mean, we can make the jokes about Sam Levitt and Lane Kiffin and whatever else. This season has become something of a disappointment in my view. And I don't see how you can look at it any other way. They're six and four. They're three and four in SEC play. By virtue of this loss, they are out of the playoffs. That whole thing went dunzo. They've got enough talent to compete with the likes of the Texases and the Alabamas of the SEC. 00:09:27 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter. 00:09:29 Speaker 1: But

almost only gets you so far. So, look, Lane's going to make them interesting offensively. I would say interesting in general offensively. It's going to take a little bit of time until he can, I guess, get to that elite level, that S tier that LSU was hoping to get to by naming him head coach. But the other thing here, and this probably goes without saying, and I think we've been grappling with it all season long, is Texas the hardest team in the country to evaluate at this point? 00:09:59 Speaker 8: No. 00:09:59 Speaker 1: No. You don't think? 00:10:01 Speaker 4: Arguably the easiest team to evaluate. They've played... a huge number of big games against what we perceive to be high quality teams. And when they win, you understand how they win, which is holding on somehow, some way when it looks like, oh, they might give this away or, oh, they might not come fully back and make this work. They don't win in boring ways. The game control that they have is lacking. If that is a metric that the college football playoff can address and pseudo make up, The Texas ability to control a game from start to finish in the way that we've seen Georgia do these past couple weeks against quality teams. But it was Ole Miss last week and Mizzou this week. That's game control. That's not where Texas lives, to paraphrase Tom Platz. Game control is scary. 00:10:57 Speaker 7: And. 00:10:59 Speaker 4: I think that's what we know about Texas, that they do not string together a half of quality offensive drives. They do not string together stops. They string together madness and chaos and figure out in some sort of alchemy way at the end of a game to make it work sometimes, but no, this is what they are. We're 10 games into the season. This is what Lane Kiffin is, by the way, 10 games into the season, however many years into his SEC tenure, right? When it comes to these big games, the conversation is, does not start with Lane Kiffin in a big game. 00:11:38 Speaker 9: Uh-oh. 00:11:39 Speaker 4: It's not Wayne Kiffin. The conversation starts with an L. Lane Kiffin. Here's where we are. Ten games in. Look, it's the first year of his LSU tenure. We can agree that that's a fair lens through which to view where LSU is right now and that their roster and potentially their results will only get better from here. But what he's done in big games, it's just kind of par for the course, right? Golf term. 00:12:04 Speaker 1: I think that's accurate. I mean, look, both teams are, as I've said a couple times now, nothing if not interesting. I just look at Texas from the standpoint of, you know, they can be better. Most of the time they aren't. But then you see a fourth quarter game winning drive out of Arch Manning, out of the play. I thought the play calling at the end there at the very end for Sark was brilliant. 00:12:31 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:12:31 Speaker 1: Whether it was like the quarterback zone play. that got them down a little bit closer, or that motion play out to Rayleek Brown where they found a matchup that they liked. I thought they did a good job in that moment. So, you know, you don't got to be perfect if you win those moments. We've talked about that with Indiana. We can talk about that with Indiana next or shortly here. But you'll take it if you're a Texas fan. Two losses, very much in the hunt. 00:12:57 Speaker 4: They kept doing the split screen in this game, obviously because of Lane and Sark's experience together and friendship and, you know, time coaching together at SC and the weird and looping paths that these two coaches have taken throughout their career. They look like they age 17 to 23 years in this game. When you see like the side by side of like, this is the day the president was inaugurated. This was his last day in office. That's what they at the end of this game. Neither were happy. 00:13:29 Speaker 2: Right. 00:13:30 Speaker 4: With big plays that their team was making on offense or defense. They were relieved that they were still alive. 00:13:35 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:13:36 Speaker 4: Walking on this green earth by the end of this game. 00:13:39 Speaker 1: Right. 00:13:39 Speaker 4: That Sark hugged Lane Kiffin at the end. And I'm sure said some very nice things to him. 00:13:43 Speaker 1: He looked like he was going to cry as he walked. 00:13:45 Speaker 4: There was nothing. There was nothing celebratory about Sark's inner being in that moment or outer being in that moment. They looked much older at the end of this game. 00:13:57 Speaker 1: Indeed they did. Again, your final score, 22-21. This one's going to have something of a lasting impact as it relates to the SEC, certainly as it relates to the college football playoff. Where do you want to go next, Dan? We got a couple other options here. 00:14:11 Speaker 4: Let's go Indiana-USC. 00:14:13 Speaker 1: Indiana won this game by a 27-13 score. It was a pretty good game for a good chunk of this one. 00:14:22 Speaker 4: I think that's right, just in terms of the drama and the back and forth and how tight it appeared to be for a healthy percentage of it. 00:14:29 Speaker 6: Yeah. 00:14:30 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you an unfair question about this game. 00:14:33 Speaker 2: Great. 00:14:33 Speaker 1: And my hunch is that it will annoy both Indiana and USC fans, which is how I know I'm doing it correctly. 00:14:40 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:14:41 Speaker 1: Do you view this one more as Indiana going out there and winning it or USC going out there when the pressure was on and losing it? 00:14:52 Speaker 4: Oh, it's Indiana winning, right? Indiana can't control. They can control certain things, right? Grant Wilson can control how close to USC palms he throws a football. There were a lot of potential mistakes for Indiana that were left on the field by USC at times in this game. So much of the sport, especially in these big games, is making fewer mistakes, getting away with more mistakes, being able to make up for mistakes, and And in those big moments, in

those high leverage moments, in the red zone, on fourth and short, on third and short, coming through more often than your opponents. That's what we talk about. When winning is a skill, it is those moments where you're like, we have a plan. Our quarterback is ready. Our offense is ready. Our defense is prepared. We have a plan for those moments. Indiana, once again, is the team that moves on with the win. And USC is, once again, the team that leaves their head coach saying, we're so close. Guys, we're just so close. 00:15:49 Speaker 1: Did he do it again? 00:15:50 Speaker 4: Of course he did it again. 00:15:51 Speaker 1: Okay, I was going to ask if Lincoln did the thing that we were only just a few plays away. 00:15:55 Speaker 4: They can use a soundboard after USC losses at this point. He's going to say we're so close, we're just a few plays away. I know we just have to stick with it. The things that we're planning are about to happen. We're right there. That's every time. And this is USC on the road. I don't believe they've won a ranked road game outside of L.A., You can fact check me on this because UCLA is not included in this stat since like 2016. Yeah. And so for whatever reason, they get close under Lincoln Riley. They make some plays. But once again, it's the defense letting them down. Tonight it was the pass defense. You know, Charlie Becker just torching dudes on the outside in big moments. This is where we are. Indiana has that. That gene, the clutch gene, whatever the DNA is, they seem more prepared, even when they're not playing well, even when they're starting a backup quarterback. So to me, this was Indiana. But also, dot, dot, dot, which is an ellipses? Is that what that is? USC dropped like five game-changing interceptions, many of which were in the end zone. I don't... I don't know if that's preparation. I don't know if that's nerves. I don't know if that's lack of practice with the jugs machine. I don't know if... Whatever it is. Like, they were just not ready. They could not believe Grant Wilson would throw a ball like that or an Indiana receiver would screw up in the way that they did running a route. USC had those moments. They had the game. They had these crucial drives on their racket, tennis term. And they let it slip. Literally and figuratively. 00:17:36 Speaker 2: It was. 00:17:38 Speaker 1: a series of unfortunate events for USC. 00:17:41 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:17:42 Speaker 1: Whether it was dropped interceptions, whether it was costly penalties, whether it was having the ball at the Indiana six yard line with the chance to tie it and then not seeing a defender, JD, my Ava throwing an interception that eventually ends up going back the other way for Indiana points. 00:18:04 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:18:04 Speaker 1: Um, That was the difference in this game. And, you know, you need a little bit of luck from time to time in order to win. I think Indiana had some of that here just by virtue of those USC mistakes. But we have seen

this time and again from this team. Whether it's a receiver making a play, whether it's Josh Hoover making a play, in this case, Grant Wilson making plays. Grant Wilson, by the way, I don't know if you heard what Cignetti had to say after the game. It wasn't even that Josh Hoover wasn't healthy. They just made the decision to go to the backup quarterback. And he had a great game. He finished with over 300 passing yards, had a big 42-yard touchdown pass to Charlie Becker that effectively sealed the game. That's the kind of late-game execution that you want if you're any kind of playoff team, really, if you're any team in general. But certainly Indiana in this moment, which is now accustomed to playing these really tight games... Whether it's Hoover or Grant Wilson, it's nice to know you've got some depth at the quarterback position. I'm curious to see what they do now moving forward, if Wilson's going to be the guy if they go back to Hoover at some point. 00:19:13 Speaker 4: I mean, if they chose Wilson and didn't need to start Wilson because of Hoover's health, Indiana moving forward with, I don't believe they have, it's Washington on the road and then the Oak and Bucket game, right? 00:19:28 Speaker 9: Yeah. So. 00:19:29 Speaker 4: There's not obvious and clear danger, a clear and present danger to Indiana football in these next couple weeks. And then they presumably at this point, given where the, you know, I'm counting chickens before they hatch. Is that what it is? Presumably UCLA in a Big Ten championship game with USC's inability to beat Indiana. That seems to be where we're heading with how strong UCLA also looked on Friday night. Hand up. Got that one wrong. 00:19:57 Speaker 1: Well, yeah. And so the other thing that I'll add here and then we can move on. Yeah. This game was tied 13 all midway through the third quarter. And Indiana was the team that responded with the two touchdowns. And to my point, the fourth quarter shutout. Again, it's the defense. We can talk about Grant Wilson, the receivers making plays. By the way, we both liked that matchup out wide. It did manifest in the end here in this game. We saw it having a big impact. But the defense, I think, on the Indiana side deserves probably even more attention than the offense because going into the final quarter, You never know what's going to happen. USC never scored again. To hold this USC offense, which is still a pretty good offense, to 13 points, to force mistakes, to get the necessary stops, to force even USC to settle for field goal attempts earlier in the game. Stopping USC from turning the yardage into the points is ultimately the biggest reason why they won this game. So they didn't need a perfect afternoon of offense. They just needed to keep doing what they've been doing on defense to give their offense a chance. The offense came through in the clutch and delivered a nice 14-point win. But, man, another one that felt like it was going to come down to the wire, and then

Indiana finds a way to zoom out and take control of this thing in the very end. 00:21:24 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:21:24 Speaker 4: No, they're in position to win the conference, and... Look, with the way the sport is in terms of the number of flaws at or near the top, even with the teams who seem securely in the playoff race, I don't know what Indiana's ceiling is. You look at their receivers, you're like, man, Marsh and Becker, as good a duo that we have in this sport. And the running backs, when they're healthy, add a good amount of pop. They're not operating... in conjunction with each other, the quarterback position and these receivers, the offense is not as clean, is not as lockstep as it was last year. And that's okay. Last year was an all-time terrific team from Indiana. But that's the one thing you're like, man, they could just do whatever they wanted whenever they wanted last year in terms of getting out of precarious situations or just like, this is where your defense is. We need six yards. We have a plan for nine. 00:22:21 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:22:22 Speaker 4: They're not there, right? That's why they're not separating from teams. They're not as consistent. They're not as ruthlessly efficient. And they're more beat up, obviously, on both sides of the ball. But, damn, if they don't just keep winning, right? 00:22:34 Speaker 1: They just keep finding ways to win. Let's talk about a game that wasn't so much of a nail-biter, Dan Rudess. 00:22:40 Speaker 4: Who just got murdered! 00:22:43 Speaker 1: Holy hell! 00:22:44 Speaker 5: 49-7. 00:22:47 Speaker 1: Wake Forest destroyed SMU in a game that kicked off at noon Eastern time. This one was 42 to nothing before you could blink. 42 to nothing at halftime. This was never close. This was a complete mismatch. This was about the loudest playoff statement of the day from any team that is in the conversation. Wake Forest, Dan, make whatever you want of SMU. But this was the game. If there was going to be a hiccup, it appeared as if this would be the game when that might happen for Wake Forest. The point spread was relatively low. I don't even know what it closed at, but I know it started with Wake as a very slight favorite. I think it shifted to SMU being a point, point and a half, the favorite at kickoff. So everybody was kind of on the fence about this one. The running game demolished SMU. They went for 286 points. Gio Lopez had himself another game accounted for 235 yards and three touchdowns. He now has 27 touchdowns to just one interception on the year. I mean, we could talk about how devastating this probably was on the SMU side, but that would be burying the lead that Wake Forest with pressure rising now as we get closer and closer to decision day. Wake Forest is Spent the week re-upping with its coach and offensive coordinator, perhaps giving the team something of a morale boost as such, and then going out there and winning this one by 42 on the road. I just like... I don't know how good they are relative to some of these other teams we have discussed. 00:24:32 Speaker 2: Right. But. 00:24:33 Speaker 1: All we're getting from them is the fact that they may silently be a murder machine. And if you're a Wake fan, you'll take it. You'll absolutely take it and move on to next week and find your way into the ACC title game, maybe even the playoff. 00:24:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can understandably say, like, I don't know what their ceiling is, but they haven't given you an opening to ask questions. 00:24:56 Speaker 1: About what they are. They haven't. They really haven't. 00:24:59 Speaker 4: They haven't given you reason to question their excellence just in terms of their performance in a vacuum. You take the teams that they don't have control over playing. The ACC says, go play these teams. They say, cool, show us where to go, when to be there, which color uniform to wear. Let's do our thing. They went to Dallas. They played against SMU. And they didn't, they weren't up. 28-0 in the first quarter, right? They didn't score on their first four drives. There weren't, you know, it wasn't 100% success rate for their plays, but they were so overwhelmingly successful in that they didn't shoot themselves in the foot. They didn't make catastrophic mistakes. They didn't make mistakes and not come through and give SMU terrific field position the way that SMU gave Wake terrific field possession at times. They stacked success. They didn't overthink it. They said, again, they had third and five. Let's get 11. 00:25:55 Speaker 2: Right. 00:25:55 Speaker 4: That like they didn't try for everything all of the time. And when they had the moments to do so, they feasted. And in these games where SMU has this team that's on the verge of a college football playoff ranking, like top 12 ranking, top 11 ranking, SMU is hosting them. They know that they're playing an excellent team or what appears to be an excellent team at the very least. And Kevin Jennings is still running backwards constantly. 00:26:21 Speaker 1: He's playing Tecmo Super Bowl. That's the Tecmo Super Bowl move. You just run backwards until somebody gets open. Look, we previewed this. We literally previewed this when we were talking about this game, how Kevin Jennings can't make those mistakes. He can't do the thing where he's out there trying to make a play and takes a sack instead of throwing it away, where he does a panic scramble instead of finding the open man. 00:26:45 Speaker 4: It's a gift. 00:26:46 Speaker 5: It is. 00:26:46 Speaker 4: He's handing wake forest gift. 00:26:49 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:26:49 Speaker 1: And when you've got a team like wake, that has been so efficient on both sides of the football. 00:26:54 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:26:54 Speaker 1: That comes back to bite you. 00:26:56 Speaker 7: Right. 00:26:57 Speaker 1: You mentioned some of the field position situations in this game, right. Just in passing. But I believe there were three scoring drives, three touchdown

drives to be specific that began at or inside the SMU 26 yard line. So SMU did itself. No favors here. Um, Wake Forest, I already mentioned, ran like crazy, but also converted 10 of 15 on third downs. 00:27:24 Speaker 4: And they had a bunch of, not a bunch, but it was something like 12 of 18 overall third and fourth down. Like they just stayed on the field. They occupied territory. My question is this. Is there any kind of comparison? These are not the same teams. Oh, I'm ready for this. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:27:43 Speaker 1: Is there any kind of comparison to this year's Wake Forest and the 2024 version of Indiana? In this regard. In this regard. 00:27:52 Speaker 7: Okay. 00:27:53 Speaker 1: In this very specific regard. All year in 2024, everyone was waiting for the clock to hit midnight on Indiana and for them to turn back into a pumpkin. It was year one of Kurt Cignetti. It was a cast of characters that That was Indiana in name only. They all had come from other places for the most part. 00:28:16 Speaker 4: Yep. 00:28:17 Speaker 1: And they just kept winning. They found their way into the playoff. Yes, they lost to Notre Dame, but that was a very, very good football team. 00:28:23 Speaker 4: Definitely. 00:28:24 Speaker 1: It is not apples to apples, okay? This is year two of Jake Dickert. 00:28:29 Speaker 7: Right. 00:28:29 Speaker 1: It's a new quarterback. It's not exactly the same, but I'm thinking— They each. 00:28:33 Speaker 4: Lost to a big, big power program during the regular season, Miami this year for Wake Forest and Ohio State for Indiana in 2024. 00:28:40 Speaker 1: I just bring it up because I get that sense— hearing from people, even if I'm being honest, how I felt about Wake Forest, maybe up until this very moment, where I have been waiting for the S to hit the fan. And it hasn't. 00:28:58 Speaker 4: It hasn't. 00:28:58 Speaker 1: And so to a degree, there's a little bit of disbelief that I think has gone on with regard to Wake Forest because it's not a program we're accustomed to being in this conversation. But as today was testament, like, they very much belong in the conversation. This is not a fluke at this point. This is a very, very real story that people should probably stop talking down to because this was a hell of a showing. 00:29:23 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the big difference is, I know you're not saying that's a one-to-one analog here. I think the big difference is the size of the conference that Indiana entered into and was able to run through, even though they weren't playing a murderer's role of a schedule. I think the outsized personality of Kurt Cignetti and the attention he got when he got that job is something. But I think the thing that I see as similar is they're so good on both sides of the ball and they seem to be so well coached on both sides of the ball that usually when a new coach comes in and has a bunch of success early on, it's like, oh, he brought this offense or he brought all these players on defense and they're suddenly like, you know, 114 spots better in terms of, you know, points allowed or whatever. Like it's usually led by one thing, right? A star quarterback comes in and is transformational for a program. Wake is just good in every facet. Now, last year, they were led by their defense. Last year, that's what Wake's identity was. But this year, they're just taking care of business no matter who's out there. 00:30:25 Speaker 1: It's been damn impressive, man. It really has. I'm curious to see how they are ranked by the college football playoff committee because we did have a loss in front of them. Maybe there will be more by the time the evening is through. We were going to have to have a wait conversation when we put our ballot together for sure on Monday, because there is that Sunday game now because of the FAA ground stop and all the chaos that went down on Friday. There is one game remaining, so we don't have to turn our ballot in until Monday morning. We'll talk about our official ballot on our next episode on Monday. We will talk a little bit more about the top 25 and what it all looks like. But as for our ballot, we'll get to that. In due course, the other game here that I wanted to bring up, I mentioned that there was a loss in front of Lake Forest. One of those was the Kentucky Wildcats. 00:31:21 Speaker 7: Right. 00:31:22 Speaker 1: Kentucky lost to Florida by a 21 to 14 score. Aaron Philo had a two yard touchdown that capped a 14 play 67 yard drive in the fourth quarter. That's the one that put Florida ahead for good. He ran for 102 yards. I think it was our friend Nick Roosh out at Kentucky Sports Radio. 00:31:46 Speaker 4: Roush. 00:31:46 Speaker 9: Roush. 00:31:47 Speaker 1: Excuse me, Nick. Brought up the point that it looked like they were using Aaron Filo the way that they used Haynes King. Remember, same coordinator, Buster Faulkner. Aaron Filo backed up Haynes King. The way that they used him was very similar in this matchup, and it worked to great effect. 21-14 was your final. Florida gets a big win. 00:32:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, the teams were both reasonably successful on offense. They were both reasonably successful on third down. You know, the big difference in this game was obviously that fumble at the top of the second half and its short field for Florida. I didn't watch a ton of this game. Very excited to watch more of this game. But every time I looked up, it was Florida moving the ball, especially on the ground. And at the end of the game, they were able to make slightly more plays and close this game out on the road. And it was, you know, you knew this was going to be an emotional spot for John Summerall, given his experience in Lexington and a great win for Florida. Excited to watch more of this game. And look, Kentucky didn't play its best game and was in this game, which says a lot to me as well, especially in year one, where there have been obvious flaws and obvious, incredible flaws.

surges forward for this Kentucky program in terms of finishing games, in terms of offensive development and getting stops on defense, even though it hasn't been an incredible defense all season long. But good for Florida, obviously, to turn around a ship that had been quickly taking on water and dealing with a ton of injuries, especially going back and forth between Aaron Filo and Tramell Jones. Really cool result if you're a Florida fan, obviously, on the road. But this one seemed fun and a tight back and forth. 00:33:32 Speaker 1: It was. I mean, Kentucky's offense sort of disappeared after their opening drive. I believe they led this game off with an 86-yard touchdown ride. From that point forward, only 156 yards. 00:33:46 Speaker 4: Yeah, they couldn't run. 00:33:49 Speaker 1: They just couldn't get anything going after that. Brad White beating his former team is an interesting little subplot as well. Florida's defensive coordinator who came over from Kentucky. 00:34:01 Speaker 4: There's Kentucky DNA on the Florida sideline. There is, and Florida remains just a very confusing six-win team. 00:34:11 Speaker 1: They just are. This is their third victory over a top 15 opponent. Clearly, they've got enough talent to beat ranked teams, but they also have enough inconsistency, Dan, where they find themselves fighting for bowl eligibility, which is weird. It's just a very weird place to be at when you're trying to evaluate this team. So, They're both dangerous and at the same time frustrating, which if you are taking a look at it, really any first year coach in the SEC, I don't suspect that that's too unforeseen, especially at Florida, given where it came from. But I hope from the Florida standpoint, it's something that people feel they can build on and that John Summerall has this team being big game hunters, if not more. 00:34:59 Speaker 2: Right. 00:34:59 Speaker 4: Well, they're aiming to become big game, right? They're not just trying to be spoiler maker types. Yeah, I think part of it was Kentucky overachieving relative to how long Will Stein has been there and Florida underachieving given some of the heights that they've reached this season and beating Ole Miss and beating Texas and now beating Kentucky, obviously, on the road. So they met somewhere in the middle. It came down to a few plays. It came down to, as you mentioned, Kentucky's offense stalling out. But I think the future is incredibly bright for both of these programs. 00:35:35 Speaker 1: All right, Dan. We had a bunch of reverbs that came into the reverb line. 00:35:41 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:35:41 Speaker 1: 855-VERBAL-3. Shay tells me it's one of the better segments that we've had all year. So I'm excited to hear. I actually have not listened to it yet. Please, if you are listening now, if you are watching us live, let us know who you're a fan of and how you are feeling after week 11. We will get to that here in a little bit. Also, it bears repeating, please rate, review, and subscribe if you have yet to do so. Here are your week 11 reverbs. Have a listen. 00:36:10 Speaker 8: You know, I thought I knew how much work Dan put into naming every Saturday, but orchestrating the downfall of Jensen Wong solely to promote Semiconductor Saturday, colon, trust the processor, was just above and beyond. 00:36:26 Speaker 7: Come on. 00:36:29 Speaker 1: Dan, Ty, it's Jack in Fortville. Hey, this is Jeff from Atlanta. 00:36:32 Speaker 7: Hey, Solid Verbal, this is Don from Laurel. 00:36:35 Speaker 5: It's quarter of three on a Wednesday afternoon, and life is pretty good. 00:36:41 Speaker 7: Not to be a Debbie Downer, but is today borderline boring? 00:36:46 Speaker 1: Guess who Mike Bobo just murdered? 00:36:50 Speaker 4: Go Dawgs. 00:36:51 Speaker 6: This is Officer Wing from the Winston-Salem-Forsyth County Sheriff's Department. I have come across a field, a gigantic field that must be 100 yards wide, and it is full of dead ponies. I think they've been murdered. 00:37:03 Speaker 9: Look, most teams are just trying to trust the processors on this Semiconductor Saturday. 00:37:07 Speaker 4: Of course. 00:37:08 Speaker 9: But for Wake Forest, it looks something like a Steamroller Saturday, a Sledgehammer Saturday, or maybe even a Stop Stop He's Already Dead Saturday. 00:37:17 Speaker 7: I know Clemson's having a down year, but if you think that you can just waltz into Death Valley and combat. 00:37:24 Speaker 1: Hey, hold on. Six points. 00:37:29 Speaker 8: Never mind, scratch that. Dabo Sweeney's first game as Clemson head coach was a loss to Georgia Tech at home. 00:37:35 Speaker 1: His 250th game was a loss to Georgia Tech at home. 00:37:39 Speaker 5: Pure poetry. 00:37:40 Speaker 7: Dabo really is the Saban of Gundy's. 00:37:43 Speaker 5: This is the worst season in a decade for Pitt football. At least West Virginia lost to Kansas, but I'm going to have a nice. 00:37:50 Speaker 2: Nice few glasses of whiskey tonight. 00:37:52 Speaker 7: Jerry Magalenez calls every ACC game so that when you Google him, you find out about his dog repping instead of the fact he's in the. 00:37:59 Speaker 5: Go Canes. 00:38:00 Speaker 3: It's too bad the FAA lifted its nationwide ground stop because I wouldn't mind leaving the Houston defense in Boulder. Probably the first time Austin Armstrong has heard the words ground stop. 00:38:11 Speaker 5: Good Lord. So if being on bye week leads to a five place drop in the college football playoff rankings, does that mean a two touchdown win at home is what, two or three place drop? I think at this rate, we can probably stay in the playoff field. Go Hoosiers. 00:38:26 Speaker 7: Hi, yes, this message is for Tyler. I think you should probably be starting that Minnesota support Zoom a little bit earlier this year. 00:38:33 Speaker 2: We are, baby. 00:38:34 Speaker 5: I don't know what a Jesse Legree is, but I might want to look into what a Rayshon Jones is because he's a problem kid. 00:38:41 Speaker 1: Dude

alert. 00:38:42 Speaker 7: Look, I see a lot of people online are irate. at Ole Miss and the SEC for pushing this game back to Sunday. Personally, I thought it was just really classy of Ole Miss to honor the OU offense under Ben Arbuckle by refusing to travel by either ground or air yesterday. 00:38:58 Speaker 6: Every week, one of my best friends and I find ourselves watching Syracuse football. 00:39:05 Speaker 5: Neither of us like Syracuse. 00:39:07 Speaker 1: We've never been to Syracuse. 00:39:09 Speaker 7: But every week we watch Syracuse football. 00:39:12 Speaker 6: And my question to actual, honestly, guys, Syracuse football fans is why? 00:39:17 Speaker 4: How? Where? 00:39:20 Speaker 3: Who? 00:39:21 Speaker 2: Why? Where? 00:39:22 Speaker 1: Thank you. 00:39:22 Speaker 4: I mean, look, Syracuse came back. Big fourth quarter comeback to get that win. That's not nothing. 00:39:28 Speaker 1: Now, just one win away from. bowl eligibility. 00:39:30 Speaker 2: They got to beat. 00:39:31 Speaker 1: BC next week. 00:39:32 Speaker 4: Oh, they beat NC State today? 00:39:34 Speaker 1: Beat NC State, yeah. 00:39:34 Speaker 2: That's okay. 00:39:35 Speaker 4: Down and out program. Hiring Phil Rivers. Syracuse got that win. I don't think you're ready for Steve Angeli. Here it is. 00:39:43 Speaker 1: Let's do some rapid fire takes, Dan. Let's go around. Let's do our whip around here. 00:39:48 Speaker 5: Okay. 00:39:48 Speaker 8: Okay. 00:39:49 Speaker 1: Around college football, what else stood out to you? The Kansas Jayhawks. Okay. 00:39:54 Speaker 4: Taking it to West Virginia. 00:39:56 Speaker 1: West Virginia, nice win. 00:39:57 Speaker 4: But didn't beat West Virginia 63-60. Defense held them down. Did a great job corralling with Cam Cook and Michael Hawkins. 00:40:04 Speaker 8: Yeah. 00:40:05 Speaker 4: Watched a chunk of that game. What else stood out to me? I mean, we heard the reverb about Mike Bobo murdering yet another team. Georgia absolutely smashed Mizzou from the onset. With an early Austin Simmons pick and setting up a short field. And it was just over and over again. Good for Georgia. And when we talk about why is Indiana not winning a game by two touchdowns over four quarters? Why do they have to play Minnesota and Michigan to overtime? It's because we see Georgia and we're like, well, some teams can do this against decent teams. And Georgia is just a wrecking ball right now. Let's talk about UCLA, Dan. 00:40:45 Speaker 9: Yeah. 00:40:48 Speaker 4: Friday night. 00:40:49 Speaker 1: UCLA made it to 10-0 by knocking off Illinois 22-14. They survived something of a quarterback scare. They forced Illinois into a costly set of mistakes. I thought this was a really impressive win. 00:41:07 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a game late. And obviously a lot of that had to do with Ty Dieffenbach not playing the third quarter, right? It was Madden, Ian Maliava, the little brother of Nikko. coming in the third string and it was soggy and rainy and much to my dismay, stadium was pretty full. I mean, relative to where UCLA attendance can be sometimes, but they did a good job filling the stadium against a decent Illinois team. But yeah, some pop from the UCLA offense and then things slow down as the weather kind of turned a little bit. But this was An eight-point game pretty late? 00:41:41 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look. 00:41:42 Speaker 4: With opportunities. Obviously, the final score was an eight-point win for UCLA, but there were opportunities for Illinois late. 00:41:48 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. A lot of people are going to look at the box score and they're going to say this was an ugly win. 00:41:54 Speaker 2: Right. 00:41:55 Speaker 1: And it was kind of ugly. It was rainy. This was a game that very easily could have gone off the rails. And Illinois is not a bad team. Illinois has gotten better throughout the course of the year. That's part of why I think we both like them. Now, I didn't go as far as you. You had Illinois winning outright. I just had them plus 10.5. I don't think it was an unreasonable take, but this is that type of game. We knew it going in where weird things could happen. Weird things did happen in terms of the weather, in terms of another quarterback on the UCLA side going down. Their ability to hold this thing together To get this win over, again, I think still a pretty good Illinois team. Maybe not top 25, but definitely the kind of team that can beat you if you're off. I came away impressed. I came away impressed. I also enjoyed the interview with Bob Chesney Sr., which I sent you. Terrific. The most aggressive central Pennsylvania character you will ever meet. Tomatoes. 00:42:58 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:42:59 Speaker 4: He was great. 00:42:59 Speaker 1: Bob Chesney Sr. So they win this one in heavy rain, 22-14. And I don't. 00:43:05 Speaker 7: Know. 00:43:05 Speaker 1: They showed me something. So I'm going to call that out. 00:43:09 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, the big deal for UCLA, it was defense. It was holding on, not making catastrophically negative plays. The early, it was Aiden Mizell, I think, had the early long touchdown for UCLA. And he goes for like 175 yards or something. Ty Dievenbach was very good. He's been very efficient, all things considered, with the weather in this one. And, you know, Illinois dealing with the defensive setbacks this year. Once again, not a catastrophic defensive performance from Illinois Friday night. But just their injuries to running backs that they've suffered this season. UCLA did a great job corralling Colin Dixon, who's been their true number one receiver and one of the Big Ten's better receivers. So, again, winning a skill for UCLA. Hang on for this one and get to 10-0. Good for the Bruins. 00:43:51 Speaker 1: Another one that stood out to me, Colorado 42, Houston 32. 00:43:57 Speaker 4: I watched this one today. 00:43:58 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:44:00 Speaker 4: Didn't watch it live. 00:44:01 Speaker 1: Houston's tackling sort

of non-existent. Colorado scored four touchdowns of 30 or more yards. They ran for nearly 250 yards. They erased a 20 to seven deficit with 28 unanswered points. This is one of those examples of how a really good season on the Houston side is really on anyone's side, can unravel like that. 00:44:30 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:44:31 Speaker 1: That's part of the beauty of college football. I'm certain if you're a Houston fan, you're not feeling the beauty of it right now, but that is what this is all about, and this tends to happen when we get into the month of November. Houston let it slip away, man. They let it slip away. It was a confounding loss, basically knocks them out of the Big 12 race. Any hopes they had of a dark horse playoff run Also is Dunzo. It speaks to what you have been saying all year. Teams on a short week on the road. 00:45:04 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:45:05 Speaker 1: Colorado was also on a short week, but they weren't on the road. So the short week road thing is, I know an item that's been on your radar all year and it got Houston. 00:45:14 Speaker 4: Do you know how many times against power for opponents that Colorado has scored 28 or more points? They scored 42 in this one. You know how many times this season? They've scored 28 points against powerful opponents, zero times until Friday night. 00:45:31 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:45:31 Speaker 4: Meaning Houston's 32 should have been plenty to win this game. 00:45:36 Speaker 7: Right. 00:45:37 Speaker 4: Colorado decided, oh, what if we just got it to our terrifically talented skill players faster and more confidently? They had a go-go offense Friday night. Richard Young running like he did. Isaac Wilson looked decisive. They waited until mid-November, but it was cool to see Colorado put it together. Yes, it's short week road, but I am positive if they played this game today instead of Friday night, it likely would have been a pretty similar result with how well Colorado was prepared to execute and was able to execute in this one. So great for Colorado. Wish as somebody who wants more competitive games that this happened in late September or something that they were able to get this going but you know a cool result to see unless you're a Houston. 00:46:24 Speaker 1: Fan unless you're a Houston fan I mentioned it earlier but congratulations to Jeremiah Smith broke the Big Ten career receiving yards record on a 22 yard catch and finished with 117 yards Ohio State for their part knocked off Northwestern in a football game that was kind of a game for a while but then eventually they it. 00:46:44 Speaker 4: Was a game going into the fourth quarter yep yeah there was they both muffed punts which led to sort of catastrophic results that's right but um this was a Nico Marquial game for Northwestern so not an Aiden Childs game but also a Luke Fahey game so both teams playing with backup quarterbacks but uh the throws seem to be coming more confidently for uh for Luke Fahey in this one some ugly drops for

Ohio state in this one. And they keep playing these tight ends who don't really do much. Um, and I know much to the chagrin of Ohio state fans everywhere, but a good win nevertheless for Ohio state as they sort of survive in advance and hope to catapult into more college football playoff relevance. 00:47:24 Speaker 1: What else to you? What else stood out? 00:47:26 Speaker 4: Uh, Oregon smashed Michigan. 00:47:29 Speaker 1: Talk to me about Oregon. 00:47:30 Speaker 4: That stood out. Uh, Dylan Raiola was very clean in this one. The offense did slow down for a stretch, uh, But going into this game, and Dylan Raiola and Dan Lanning talked about it after the fact, they're like, Michigan's got a terrific defense. But everybody is kind of just playing scared of it and not really testing them downfield. And Oregon obviously has skill players that a lot of teams kind of don't in guys like Evan Stewart and DeCorean Moore and Jamari Johnson, D.R. 00:47:57 Speaker 1: Hill. 00:47:58 Speaker 4: And they were very aggressive from the onset. They were testing these corners downfield and succeeding. The defense was... harassing and haranguing both Bryce Underwood who throws truly the most beautiful interceptable ball most beautifully interceptable ball in America like it is the way it comes off of his fingers and tries to make its way directly to the fingers of the defense it's a work of art like when you see the NFL films like they do the rack focus on the spinning football yeah like you could just you you see the interception before it actually gets released and so I don't know where Michigan goes from here offensively. They're a disaster. Michigan scored on a broken play, and that was kind of it. They had a long drive down the field, like a 10-minute drive that ended in zero points against this Oregon team. And Oregon was able to get the ball to playmakers. Dylan Raiola was just very clean. He made a lot of great decisions. He took some sacks, but no fumbles, no interceptions. Oregon is sort of very quietly... Moving into position to be in consideration for one of those at-large picks with a win over Michigan State and Washington. Not guaranteed, especially short week road coming up for Oregon and East Lansing. But nevertheless, Michigan is... i think about to reboot if i had to guess i i don't know they they they didn't get the bump from firing their offensive coordinator like not from firing their. 00:49:28 Speaker 1: Own here's the problem okay yeah And people out there, I don't care who you root for, everyone's been in this situation before. Whether you're rooting on a good team, rooting on a bad team, or a team that is just annoyingly treading water. Everyone has been in that situation where you're watching a game, your team is not getting blown out. You don't look at the scoreboard and say, this is an insurmountable lead. As was the case in this Oregon-Michigan game. It was like 21-7 for a while, which is not insurmountable normally. 00:50:00 Speaker 4: It was 21 to seven late, like with like six or seven, eight minutes left in this one. 00:50:06 Speaker 1: That is not an insurmountable deficit. 00:50:08 Speaker 2: Right. 00:50:09 Speaker 1: But the feeling that you get deep into your marrow, that your team has no shot whatsoever of scoring points, of mounting any kind of drive, building momentum, building all the things required in order to get past that deficit. 00:50:27 Speaker 4: Right. 00:50:27 Speaker 1: That's where Michigan's at right now. That's where they were at in this game. And it feels like that's where their offense is at. The defense can only do so much. And when you've got an offense that does, you know, favors, you're, you're sort of playing with one hand behind your back. So I agree. It does not seem as if vibes are good. I did have this as my lock of the week because vibes have been reportedly very, very bad on the Michigan side, where it goes from here remains to be seen, but, um, doesn't seem like it's going to a good place. And for sure, the Kyle Whittingham experience has been somewhat lacking. 00:51:03 Speaker 4: They will beat Ohio state. Let's be clear. That's if we've learned anything from this sport, right? They will manage to pull out that game in a couple of weeks. No, I, I don't think they'll do that, but, uh, again, eight minutes left in this one, something like that. I might have my timing off a little bit to possession game. They were huddling and running dives, uh, They were looking at the pass game downfield as, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. We mustn't do that. 00:51:30 Speaker 2: And it... Man. 00:51:33 Speaker 4: I would be very sad if I were a Michigan fan right now. 00:51:36 Speaker 1: Clemson lost to Georgia Tech. 00:51:39 Speaker 2: Oh, man. 00:51:39 Speaker 4: I'd be sad if I were a Clemson fan, too. So, Tate Reynolds hurt almost immediately in this game. 00:51:46 Speaker 1: Tate Reynolds got hurt. 00:51:47 Speaker 4: Chris Vizina playing through pain in his own injury in this one. 00:51:52 Speaker 3: Um. 00:51:54 Speaker 1: I don't know where Clemson's at either. I don't know. I mean, what do you do with Dabo? You know, I'm not, I'm not necessarily judging Dabo because he had a quarterback injury and then they couldn't mount any kind of offense, but yeah, we talked in the not so distant past about losing to Georgia tech and how that might be one of the worst losses for another team. I forget who it was. Might be one of the worst losses of the year because how low Georgia Tech has sunk. 00:52:29 Speaker 4: It was Duke where it was just, oh, that was weird. 00:52:31 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:52:32 Speaker 1: Now Clemson finds itself in this situation. If you think of how we have moved the goalposts in the wrong direction on the Clemson side, it's got to be disconcerting if you're a fan of the Tigers. This is a program that we are used to talking about as like a national title, if not a conference contender. Now we're talking about them losing to Georgia

Tech. Now we're talking about a program that just does not seem to have any kind of direction. It feels somewhat rudderless. For sure, there is still talent on the roster, but you can't lose games like this. This is a bad Georgia Tech team right now that, for its own part, is in a bit of turmoil. So, you know, I don't know. It's one thing to have the freshman quarterback lose. And to be able to pin everything on that, but to be able to show the boosters and the fan base that there is real progress. I don't know if we've really seen that from this team. No, of course not. And at a minimum, Dan, bringing back Chad Morris to sort of get the gang back together, rebuild things like it's 2012 all over again. That hasn't worked either. So they're running out of excuses down there. And I'm not sure Dabo is going to be long for Clemson either. I just can't see how long this can continue. 00:53:55 Speaker 4: In their last few ACC games, Clemson has scored 18 against Syracuse, 36, that's good, against Florida State, 16 against Virginia Tech, and then today against Georgia Tech, six points and did not get in the end zone, obviously. 00:54:13 Speaker 1: The other thing that I jotted down was Miami. 00:54:15 Speaker 2: Oh, man. 00:54:16 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:54:19 Speaker 4: That was an entertaining game. It was a game late as well. 00:54:22 Speaker 1: It was. 00:54:23 Speaker 4: And it was also like a bad beat Vegas type game, right? With Duke scoring late. As was Northwestern. Northwestern scored at the gun to cover, I believe. 00:54:33 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:54:34 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 00:54:35 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:54:35 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Miami, another game without Malachi Toney. They needed to find another way to win. It was Mallory, their running back. who gave them a little bit of pop. Nate Shepard, for his part, he's always going to get his on the Duke side. 00:54:58 Speaker 4: He's unbelievable. I love watching him. 00:55:01 Speaker 1: Broke Duke's single season rushing record, but just not enough to beat a team like Miami. This was a nice win for Miami. As we had joked on our preview, there were a lot of fantasy things at play in this game with competing storylines and whatnot, but, um, a game that maybe could have snuck up on Miami. And for a moment, I thought it might, but eventually they pull away. 00:55:28 Speaker 4: I thought there was a lot of very good to take away. If you're a Miami fan, obviously the, the composition of this offense and the gravity of this offense, I do have the sound gravity is a little bit different without Malachi Tony in that Darian Mensah is not going downfield as as often and in the same way that he is when he has Malachi Tony. So it was a lot of shorter stuff in the passing game, a lot of, a lot in the screen game. You mentioned JV and Mallory. He has a huge run in this. I think it was a screen game or like a sort of a dump off situation. Miami's defense is not in the healthiest place. I would say at the moment where like, We were used to watching last year's team, and obviously there are players gone, players coming in. There's not much of a pass rush to this Miami team at the moment. There were a good chunk of missed tackles from this Miami team. Look, this is all credit to Duke as well. I wouldn't go as far as saying there's trouble on Dukie Island for Miami. 00:56:26 Speaker 2: Trouble on Dukie Island. 00:56:29 Speaker 4: Thank you. 00:56:30 Speaker 1: Is that a new sound? Did you pull that one for this? 00:56:33 Speaker 2: Trouble on Dookie Island. 00:56:35 Speaker 4: But it looked like there might have been. You don't know what that's from. There is at least a listener who knows where that's from. 00:56:41 Speaker 2: Okay. Trouble on Dookie Island. 00:56:44 Speaker 1: Solidverbal at gmail.com. Hit us up. 00:56:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 00:56:47 Speaker 4: Anyway, that was me shoehorning in that sound. But I came away impressed with Duke and especially Nate Shepard. And good on Miami for figuring out ways to win in this game and making the plays that they made. I don't take away a ton of negative from Miami. That's just not the team they are. The defense is not going to be what leads them in the big games coming up in their season. So I'm much more positive about Miami coming out of this one. 00:57:14 Speaker 1: Let me give you two quick ones here. Actually, I have a couple quick ones that I just need to get off my chest. Tennessee went to College Station and knocked off Texas A & M. Remember, that was a game with a weird point spread. And for a while, it was close. It was only Nine to seven after three quarters. But this is a Texas A & M offense that hasn't done anything all year. Marcel Reed just really looks bad. He's gotten worse. It's got to be shared blame. If you're Mike Elko, yes, you're not getting great play out of your quarterback. The play calling is also, well, leaving a lot to be desired. 00:57:52 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:57:53 Speaker 1: They're going to need to do some sort of hard reset at the end of this year to get this offense back on track because this was not a great showing at all. It continues a season of not great showings when it comes to their offensive football. Tennessee could have lost this game for what it was worth. I didn't watch a ton. They could have lost this game. I watched pretty much all of it. They could have lost this game, but their defense came to play. Texas A & M' s offense couldn't do anything. This is another game where it felt like the score was obviously close enough for one team to jump up and maybe make a comeback, but you got the vibe that it wasn't going to happen with A & M. 00:58:31 Speaker 4: Did you see Mike Elko's comments after the game? He went to the place you probably shouldn't go to, which I guess he already went after Billy Lucci and Tex Ags. Today he went not full Gundy, But he said it would be unfair to go after Marcel Reed. I know the offense is broken. It's on me. It's my fault. And he said,

come at me. He's like, ooh. 00:58:57 Speaker 1: Come at me, bro. 00:58:58 Speaker 4: I like it. 00:58:59 Speaker 2: I'm a man. 00:58:59 Speaker 4: I'm 40. So it was accountability for Mike Elko. And I suspect the changes to this offense in the offseason will be dramatic. and pronounced, and they will be paying a premium for whoever's playing quarterback for Texas A & M in 2027. But yeah, you get the sense that they are kind of washing their hands of this season already. 00:59:25 Speaker 1: South Carolina lost in the SEC. They were on the road at Arkansas. They had to start their backup quarterback, Cutter Woods. Cutter Woods, 271 yards passing, three interceptions, not good enough. 00:59:39 Speaker 4: Good for Arkansas, man. 00:59:40 Speaker 1: Even to beat Arkansas. Yeah, good for them, man. It's been a rough go here. 00:59:43 Speaker 4: Good for the Hogs. Who does Arkansas finish with? Arkansas finishes with Texas and LSU. Okay, a lot of interceptions coming their way. What can you do with them? Get your hands ready, DBs. 00:59:55 Speaker 1: Just real quick here, I got to mention Penn State. 42-14 over Minnesota. 00:59:58 Speaker 4: Go for it. 01:00:01 Speaker 1: Penn State finding its way now. 01:00:05 Speaker 4: What do they win? They win a bell? 01:00:06 Speaker 1: Yes. 01:00:08 Speaker 4: It's the victory bell? 01:00:09 Speaker 1: Correct. 01:00:10 Speaker 4: Okay, just making sure. 01:00:12 Speaker 1: It was a nice combination here between Rocco Becht and Carson Hansen, who had just a solid combined effort, I would say. And I say solid in air quotes because it wasn't exactly the type of performance that's going to jump off the page at you. Rocco backed nine of 15 passing for 84 yards, but three touchdowns. 01:00:36 Speaker 4: Details, details. They scored 40 plus points, Ty. 01:00:38 Speaker 1: Three touchdowns. 01:00:40 Speaker 4: Yep. 01:00:40 Speaker 1: And Carson Hanson had a really nice game. 12 carries, 126 yards, and a touchdown in his own right. Penn State rushed for 229. I was very frustrated watching the Minnesota offense for a good chunk of this football game. 01:00:55 Speaker 4: Sorry, I wasn't watching you. Did you put offense in air quotes? I was looking at the play-by-play. Okay. 01:01:03 Speaker 1: Not for Minnesota. I did for Rocco Becht. 01:01:05 Speaker 4: Okay. 01:01:07 Speaker 1: At one point, I want to say midway through the third quarter, Drake Lindsey had 28 yards passing. 28 yards. 01:01:17 Speaker 4: It's just frustrating. Two and a half per rushing attempt. 01:01:20 Speaker 1: They should be better than this. They should be better than this. And Penn State blew the doors off them. 01:01:27 Speaker 4: And now Penn State wins the You call it the victory bell, but in this instance, how about we call it the Chris Ottman bell? 01:01:35 Speaker 5: Sure. 01:01:36 Speaker 4: Pretty good, right? Not great. 01:01:38 Speaker 2: Not bad. 01:01:38 Speaker 1: Penn State seems like they're on track for an 8-4 season. If all goes well, they have built up some momentum now. For what it's worth, we did get a brief moment of Alex Manske, who came in and actually threw a touchdown pass. I've been waiting to see Alex Manske. Everyone in Penn State universe has been waiting to see Alex Manske. Rocco Beck took a bit of a knock there, got knocked out for a little bit. Alex Manson came in, went two for two. 01:02:03 Speaker 4: Threw it off of his back foot a little bit, right? Little Dylan Raiola, little Dirk Nowitzki action. 01:02:07 Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a fadeaway jumper, but got it to where it needed to go. Two touchdowns for Ben Brommer, which was nice to see. All right. 01:02:14 Speaker 4: And look, we'll see how Malik Washington reacts to being Penn State's quarterback. 01:02:18 Speaker 2: Right? 01:02:18 Speaker 4: We'll see how that goes. Maryland getting that W. 01:02:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, man. 01:02:24 Speaker 4: Fire their coach. Malik Washington didn't start in this game. Take down Wisconsin late. Good for the Terps. 01:02:31 Speaker 1: The only other game I want to call out here, BYU knocks off Baylor. We were both pretty high on Baylor. I think Baylor was your lock of the week. 01:02:39 Speaker 4: The Grim Reap Bears. Yeah. 01:02:42 Speaker 1: 28-7 was your final. This one never really felt close. It was pretty much a non-issue a good chunk of the way here. Baylor didn't score until the fourth quarter. 01:02:52 Speaker 4: I'll tell you when it felt close. I'll tell you when it felt close. Bear Bachmeier threw what looked to be a pick six when BYU was up 21 to seven up the sideline. 01:03:02 Speaker 1: That's right. 01:03:03 Speaker 4: And it was dropped. So in that moment, when the ball hit that Baylor defensive backs hands, and it seemed like it was going to be a catastrophic and backbreaking interception, that's when it seemed like it would be competitive. Beyond that, you'd have to go back to the first quarter. 01:03:19 Speaker 1: Bear Bachmeier, four total touchdowns. Not a banner day throwing the football, but 15 for 54 yards on the ground. The team's leading rusher. 01:03:33 Speaker 4: Boise State won in a shootout, which should be paired with New Mexico losing to UNLV in this moment. So Pac-12 looking even more blue and orange at the moment. and Maddox Madsen did get the start. They beat Oregon State, and it was a Malik Murphy-Oregon State. He had a really nice game for the Beavs, connecting with Jesse Legree a bunch, but they take him down 46-41. New Mexico goes down, I believe, 21-17 to UNLV. Haven't watched any of that game yet. Nebraska beat Rutgers and did so confidently and thoroughly, and we should never gloss over an uneventful Nebraska win in the Big Ten because... Doesn't happen a lot. TCU took down Kansas State. Haven't watched any of that. 01:04:16 Speaker 1: And they were filming Landman there. Did you see that? 01:04:18 Speaker 4: They were filming Landman. 01:04:20 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about this. Apparently it's in

season three and one of the characters is a TCU cheerleader. 01:04:25 Speaker 4: I think it's Jon Hamm, Billy Bob Thornton. 01:04:28 Speaker 1: No idea. 01:04:29 Speaker 4: I believe. 01:04:30 Speaker 1: Landman could walk in here. I would have no idea. 01:04:33 Speaker 4: I don't know which one of them is the Landman. But that is Auburn shelled Mississippi State to no surprise. Texas State survived Fresno State in a Pac-12 matchup. That feels still very funny to say. ASU arrived in Orlando about 17 minutes before their game against UCF. And still. 01:04:51 Speaker 7: And won. 01:04:51 Speaker 4: It was a car day Mac. Yeah. Had another nice day. The freshman running back only saw the highlights of this one. But good for ASU as they are very quietly maybe going to get to seven and five, eight and four. 01:05:03 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:05:04 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:05:05 Speaker 4: Doing well there. Washington was able to hold on late. I didn't see a ton in this game at Michigan State in East Lansing. Jed Fish is getting haggard. Like the winter has come for Jed Fish. And I kind of dig it. I kind of dig that he's going for a specific look. Otherwise, I had mentioned this on the preview show, Air Force and their turnaround season. 01:05:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, man. 01:05:32 Speaker 4: Demolished a huge second quarter demolished san jose state setting up a huge i think final week still uh against uh new mexico okay for some mountain west good vibes nice um we we talked down about smu today i'm gonna clear my throat yes smu had a very bad a no good saturday but sometimes you have to appreciate trends tye And setting the trend of smashing James Franklin and Virginia Tech, if you're a team far away from Blacksburg, which SMU and Stanford and I guess Cal beat Virginia Tech this year as well. So James Franklin surely will blame it on the small regional airport, even though this game was in Blacksburg. Stanford absolutely smashed. And we talked about this on, I think, the Monday show. Stanford only loses to excellent teams or maybe teams with excellent offenses. So they were never going to lose this game to Virginia Tech. And they didn't. They smashed them. 01:06:34 Speaker 1: They didn't. 01:06:34 Speaker 2: All right. 01:06:35 Speaker 1: So here's how this looks. Okay. For those who are watching the live stream, you've got a graphic on the screen. For those who are listening on audio, I'll do my best to talk through this. At time of recording, we have a few games that are going on. It looks like Texas Tech is going to win going away. over Oklahoma State, though that game was close for a minute. It's currently 52-20 with about six minutes left in the game. 01:07:04 Speaker 4: They were up 21-0 in the first quarter. 01:07:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then Oklahoma State mounted something of a comeback, but from the looks of it right now, Texas Tech's going to win this one going away. They're currently up 32. 01:07:16 Speaker 4: Sneaking close to the top 10, yeah. 01:07:18

Speaker 1: That's going to knock Oklahoma State out of this top 25. 01:07:20 Speaker 6: Yep. 01:07:22 Speaker 1: Utah and Arizona are locked in a little bit of a tighter fight right now with about five minutes left in the third quarter. Arizona ball deep in its own territory. 24-21 is your score, just as Noah Fafita connects for a long, long pass. to get down into the red zone. So we'll keep tabs on that one. That could obviously affect this top 25 a little bit more. And then, as many know by now, Ole Miss doesn't play until Sunday in the afternoon due to the fact that there were some travel delays given circumstances. 01:07:56 Speaker 4: So what did you think about that, by the way? A lot of heat on that situation from the Oklahoma AD. Ole Miss released a statement talking about its attempts to get out of Oxford. And the Oklahoma AD, I think calling Greg Sankey, or maybe not directly Greg Sankey, but called him a carnival barker. And Paul Feinbaum, obviously, you're not going to believe this, but seemed to be a bit of a mouthpiece for the SEC in this situation. 01:08:23 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm writing this down. 01:08:25 Speaker 4: Everybody who just slunked or slank into their fainting couch at the news that Paul Feinbaum was a mouthpiece for the SEC. What did you think of that situation? 01:08:40 Speaker 1: I don't know if I know enough to think about the situation, to be honest with you. 01:08:44 Speaker 4: OK, here's what I can tell you. 01:08:45 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:08:46 Speaker 4: Ole Miss said that obviously they were unable to get off the ground and that the charter that they were using via JetBlue could not use that flight crew because of the duty rules. 01:08:58 Speaker 1: Right. 01:08:58 Speaker 4: You can only work for so long before. you need to be off and sleeping and not flying. And they were not able to get out that night. And they decided that it was untenable to take an overnight bus eight hours or something like that, which of course drew the jokes on social media that like just hire a driver who went to Georgia and he'll get you there in five and a half. 01:09:16 Speaker 7: Sure. 01:09:17 Speaker 4: Um, But they said there was no way that they could get there in time. And the SEC postponed it. And Oklahoma's AD went absolutely nuclear and, you know, said that everybody else was able to get to their destination and thought it was BS. And honestly, from his perspective, I totally get it. 01:09:38 Speaker 2: Sure. 01:09:39 Speaker 4: Like, you're running a major, major event and people are changing their lives to get to this event, and Ole Miss wasn't able to get on a bus to make an admittedly very long journey, all things considered, on the fly. But he was very critical of Ole Miss's attempts in the SEC backing Ole Miss, and he's in charge of the university's athletic department, and that's who he reports to. And I totally get Oklahoma fans and the Oklahoma AD being you know, out of their minds angry at this. 01:10:10 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I mean, part of the reason why we see this in the Big Ten, teams don't want Friday games because of the logistical nightmare that it creates. I know that's the case at Ohio State. That's been the case at Michigan, at Penn State. There are places that actively don't want it because of what it means from just an event planning perspective. So you can imagine to do something like this in the 11th hour, I understand where Oklahoma is coming from. What I don't know and what I have seen speculated about just in reading the interwebs is was it BS or was it not BS with regard to Ole Miss having a way to get there sooner? I don't know what to believe on that front, which is why I'm sort of reserving judgment. But I understand the frustration, and it's certainly not optimal when you plan for a game on Saturday when everything is based around that game being on Saturday. But these were sort of extenuating circumstances. 01:11:09 Speaker 4: I have no reason to believe Ole Miss was not forthcoming about its attempts to do everything it could to get out via airplane late Friday night. 01:11:17 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:11:18 Speaker 4: I think they're on the level with that. But, yeah, if I were an Oklahoma fan, I'd be pissed for sure. 01:11:24 Speaker 1: So here's what this looks like, okay? I've got the graphic backup on the screen. We had six top 25 teams lose. This is the top 25 in terms of the college football playoff top 25. Those being No. 11, Kentucky, No. 14, Houston, No. 17 and 18, South Carolina and USC, No. 21, LSU, No. 22, Missouri. It looks like our seventh team is going to be number 25, Oklahoma State. And then whoever loses between Utah and Arizona, again, that game is pretty tight as we creep towards the fourth quarter. That'll be the eighth team. We'll see what happens with Ole Miss and Oklahoma. Maybe some bad blood in that matchup on Sunday afternoon. Who knows? But if Ole Miss were to lose, that would be the ninth team in the top 25. Based on the results that we saw go down in Week 11, How are you inclined to move some of these teams? Not necessarily the ones that lost, but I think of teams like Texas Tech, who is in the process now of a 30-plus point win over a ranked opponent. I think of what we saw out of Wake Forest, which I thought was damn impressive. 01:12:43 Speaker 4: Both 8-1, yep. 01:12:45 Speaker 1: Both 8-1. 01:12:45 Speaker 4: Or I guess 9-1. 01:12:47 Speaker 2: 9-1. 01:12:47 Speaker 4: Texas Tech's about to be 9-1, yeah. 01:12:49 Speaker 1: About to be 9-1. I also think of a team like in Indiana. who beat a ranked opponent in USC. And I also think of a team like a Texas, those four in particular. Texas with yet another big win, over-ranked opponent, this time going on the road knocking off LSU. 01:13:11 Speaker 2: Yes. 01:13:12 Speaker 4: Big in terms of the magnitude of the atmosphere and the hype, not necessarily big in terms of their performance separating from LSU. 01:13:22 Speaker 1: Correct. Correct. So if

we just look at those teams, Dan, we can talk tomorrow about who we're dropping out of this top 25. My hunch is a bunch of those teams at the bottom. Maybe Houston, South Carolina, USC, LSU, Missouri. Those are five teams that are probably all getting bounced. But just with regard to those four teams, Texas, Indiana, Texas tech, wake forest. Has your opinion changed at all around those four? 01:13:54 Speaker 7: Yeah. 01:13:54 Speaker 4: I mean, what wake forest did to SMU today, a, a borderline top 25 or top 35. However, like SMU is a quality opponent to, to go to SMU and absolutely lay the lumber. I would consider, I mean, obviously they're going to jump Kentucky, uh, I'd give thought to them jumping BYU with BYU having the type of loss that they have against UCF and Wake only losing to Miami's number seven in these rankings. So wherever you want to consider, they're a top 10 program right now. And that loss was not an embarrassing loss by any stretch. Texas Tech's win over a borderline top 25 win. by 30 plus points. They're also in that same boat to me. 01:14:41 Speaker 8: Yeah. 01:14:41 Speaker 4: That game's in Stillwater, yes? 01:14:42 Speaker 1: Yep. 01:14:43 Speaker 4: That's enormous for Texas Tech, who had defensive questions after their game against West Virginia, had offensive questions with some of their performances earlier on in the season, especially against Cincinnati on the road. I don't really have any reason if Utah wins and beats a top 25 team, even if it's a snug win. It's a snug win on the road with weird travel stuff, which, by the way, Get ready for that being part of the Hunter-Juracek conversation on Tuesday night. Well, obviously, you know, with everything that happened with Oklahoma and Ole Miss, that's where I think I'm at with those teams. Which other teams did you want to, well, Texas, you were like, how do we deal with Texas after beating LSU? 01:15:29 Speaker 1: I just look at Texas because I see what the committee did with Alabama, having them all the way up at three. 01:15:35 Speaker 5: Mm-hmm. 01:15:36 Speaker 1: And I just wonder if now Texas beating another ranked team, if that's going to give them something of a catapult above anyone in front of them. They're at six, so there's only a few options. But could they catapult Notre Dame? Could they catapult UCLA? Could they even catapult Alabama as a result of this win? I think it's all possible. Not necessarily because it was any kind of groundbreaking performance, but a win's a win. 01:16:07 Speaker 7: Right. 01:16:07 Speaker 4: And they all played unranked teams other than, I mean, the, the Alabama UCLA and Notre Dame, the three teams in front of all played unranked teams. Yeah. 01:16:15 Speaker 1: So it seems to me that the committee has definitely valued quality wins and Texas has a bunch of them right now. 01:16:22 Speaker 7: Right. 01:16:22 Speaker 1: Which is why I bring them up. 01:16:24 Speaker 4: And two unranked losses. 01:16:26 Speaker 1: Correct. 01:16:26 Speaker 4: To Oklahoma and Florida. 01:16:28 Speaker 7: Correct. 01:16:29 Speaker 1: Um, yeah. 01:16:31 Speaker 4: Uh, I don't know the upward mobility for Texas in this moment. Like, if UCLA's undefeated, you didn't have to be enamored with Alabama's performance against Vanderbilt, but they still beat them, what, 21-6? 01:16:43 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:16:44 Speaker 4: With an injured Keelan Russell. Notre Dame throttled Boston College. If you want to flip-flop Notre Dame and Texas, you'd have to sort of make a case. I'm open to listening, but Notre Dame just beat the number one team in the country six days ago, seven days ago. So you have to give them some sort of top five credit for having the record that they have. They lost to a top 10 team and they beat a top 10 team. That's been the drama of their schedule. If you want to criticize the rest of their schedule, I'm open to it. 01:17:13 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with Utah. Utah now is down as Arizona has scored. So that could shift this top 10 here somewhat. But the one move that I think I'm inclined to make, and we could talk about the rest tomorrow. I won't drone on too much about this. I feel pretty confident that Indiana is better than Tennessee at this point. 01:17:37 Speaker 4: So Tennessee playing a competitive game against A & M today, yes? 01:17:41 Speaker 5: Mm-hmm. 01:17:42 Speaker 1: And this isn't to say that Tennessee did anything wrong. 01:17:45 Speaker 2: No. 01:17:46 Speaker 1: But I just feel like Indiana. 01:17:49 Speaker 4: But once you're in the top 10, you don't score a touchdown until the fourth quarter, I guess? 01:17:54 Speaker 2: Right. 01:17:56 Speaker 4: You are expected to have some of the trappings of a top 10 team, especially if you're playing against a team who was... like one in five or whatever, in the conference coming into this game. And Tennessee's coming off of a really impressive win. The South Carolina loss was, you know, handed off, handed away to South Carolina, but that was on the road. It's not an embarrassing loss. Losing to Texas in the manner they lost to was not the most embarrassing thing, given it wasn't their starting quarterback, their now starting quarterback. But yeah, I think I have more trust with Tennessee Indiana being well coached and finishing games. I'm not positive with that. Indiana played Minnesota to a draw. They played Michigan to a draw. 01:18:41 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little bit of recency bias, Dan. but that's just. 01:18:44 Speaker 4: I think it is. I'm not ready to look down on Tennessee yet. 01:18:50 Speaker 1: I'm not looking down on them. I think they're a good team. But I feel like if it's up to me, I'm going to rank Indiana in front of them. We could talk that through. Again, we do have an AP Top 25 ballot. For anybody who's new here, because of the game on Sunday... They have extended the deadline. Normally, we have to turn in the ballot early on Sunday morning. Now it's going to be early on Monday

morning. So we will discuss what our final answer is on our Monday episode, which you can, of course, get access to by following or subscribing, rating or reviewing. 01:19:22 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:19:22 Speaker 1: All that stuff helps. 01:19:23 Speaker 4: Thanks for nothing, Oklahoma State, by the way, for Oregon's resume. Thanks for nothing. Now, really nice performance from Texas Tech thus far tonight, from what I've seen. 01:19:34 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a Gator fan. I'm feeling bemused. 01:19:38 Speaker 3: Okay. 01:19:38 Speaker 1: This team is so confusing. I'm an Indiana fan. I'm feeling like our defense can keep us in any game. 01:19:45 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:19:46 Speaker 1: I am a Texas fan right now. I'm feeling relieved for Texas pulling out a miracle. Mercy, mercy me. I am a Virginia Tech Hokie, and I don't know what this thing is, but all it says is give up. 01:19:59 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:19:59 Speaker 4: I think it's an ostrich with its head in the sand. 01:20:02 Speaker 1: Oh, that's what it is. 01:20:03 Speaker 5: Okay. 01:20:03 Speaker 4: Is that what it looks like? 01:20:04 Speaker 1: Give up. 01:20:04 Speaker 5: Yeah. 01:20:06 Speaker 1: I'm a Penn State fan. Right now, I'm feeling satisfied. Hell yeah. 01:20:10 Speaker 4: I'm a Texas fan, and right now, I'm feeling tired, boss. Shout out Michael Clark Duncan and I think the Green Mile. Is that what that's called? 01:20:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 01:20:17 Speaker 1: I'm an LSU fan. I'm feeling like this year is my villain origin story. Yeah. Texas A & M fan right now. I'm feeling like football hates me. 01:20:29 Speaker 4: I get that. 01:20:29 Speaker 1: Iowa State fan. Here we go. We are so back. Flora for Heisman, man. He's good. 01:20:36 Speaker 4: I sent this to you earlier. If Iowa State is playing a team who is not really good or does not have a good defense in some way, He might have a very human day. If there is any flaw to your defense, Aiden Flores is going to run for 418 yards. Unbelievable first step and burst. Terrific running back. 01:20:57 Speaker 1: And last but certainly not least, our friend Jen says, I'm a Michigan fan right now. I'm feeling nothing. Pure, dark, numb, nothing. 01:21:07 Speaker 2: I get that. 01:21:08 Speaker 4: I get that. I was there earlier this year. 01:21:10 Speaker 1: I get it. 01:21:13 Speaker 4: I sold my property on that. 01:21:15 Speaker 1: Recovery is possible, Jen. Just look at Dan Rubenstein. 01:21:18 Speaker 4: That's true. 01:21:19 Speaker 1: Now he's looking younger and even more full of life than before. 01:21:23 Speaker 4: Dylan Riola and I are looking to maybe go winter break, Cabo, do something. I don't know. We'll figure out wherever the wind takes us. So it can get better quickly. Who knows? 01:21:36 Speaker 1: It can get better quickly. Solidverbal at gmail.com, of course, is where you can email in if you have any further thoughts on the week. As I've said a couple times over here, if you are ever so inclined, please go on out and

check us out at verbalers.com. That's where you can sign up to play our games, vote in our polls, get on our Discord, support what Dan and I do as an independent little college football pirate ship here. Do we want to get to do some doodle arts here, Dan? Let's do some doodle arts. 01:22:03 Speaker 4: Let's do some doodle arts. 01:22:07 Speaker 1: Who do we got, my friend? Who gets dude alerts for week 11? 01:22:09 Speaker 4: How about Thursday? I think it was Thursday night. Marcus Stokes, Memphis. 01:22:13 Speaker 1: Your boy, future Oregon quarterback, Marcus Stokes. 01:22:16 Speaker 4: I don't know anymore, Ty. I don't know. But he and the Tigers took it to USF. On the road, Maddox Madsen threw for a ton as Boise in a big game took down Oregon State. Darian Heismensa. That's their sort of fun wordplay. You know, I'm disappointed with Darian Mensah. 01:22:36 Speaker 2: Really? 01:22:36 Speaker 1: I was hoping that we would get a lot more Mensa society out there. 01:22:41 Speaker 2: I know. 01:22:41 Speaker 4: I hear you. 01:22:42 Speaker 1: No one's using that. Why? 01:22:44 Speaker 4: Everybody used up the Mensa jokes with Tom Herman. 01:22:46 Speaker 7: I know. 01:22:46 Speaker 2: Well, that's true. 01:22:47 Speaker 4: Many moons. How about Amarian Peterson, UTSA? He goes for 180 yards, four touchdowns, average 16 yards per attempt. Absolutely ridiculous day. Huge amount of running in the Cincinnati-Iowa State game between Coltab and Aiden Flora. Go for like 400 between the two of them. So good for them. Rayshawn Jones. We mentioned Maddox Madsen in that Boise game, but his big target was, I want to say, first-year player. Rayshawn Jones goes for 230 yards through the air. Wayne Harris for Kent State goes for 143 and two. What was your nickname in high school? 01:23:25 Speaker 1: My nickname? 01:23:26 Speaker 4: Were you Tuggy? What did I call you? 01:23:28 Speaker 1: Well, you called me that. That wasn't an actual nickname. No. 01:23:31 Speaker 4: Calvin Russell, the super freshman for Syracuse who was hurt in the spring. He goes for 137 in a winning effort for the Orange. And how about Dylan Raiola? Once again. 01:23:41 Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. 01:23:44 Speaker 4: From the depths of the Big Ten, now emerging as the quarterback. 01:23:48 Speaker 1: Did you mention Gio? 01:23:50 Speaker 4: I didn't mention Gio. 01:23:51 Speaker 1: Gio's got to get something. 01:23:52 Speaker 5: His. 01:23:53 Speaker 4: He obviously wasn't asked to throw a ton in the second half, but his moonshot of a deep pass to, I believe it was Carlos Hernandez, for that touchdown. Incredible dime from Mr. Gio Lopez. 01:24:07 Speaker 1: Those are your dudes for week 11. I'm sure we missed some. 01:24:11 Speaker 4: Yes. 01:24:12 Speaker 1: Please let us know. Give us a holler. Please rate, review, and subscribe if you have yet to do so. It is a pleasure to be here with the Verbalerhood. Deep into the night, week 11 still going on. It will conclude at some point here in the next hour or so. We will be back on Monday to talk through anything we missed here on today's episode, Dan. A lot more to follow. We are just now rounding the bend into the final two weeks of the college football regular season. It is crazy to believe that we are already here. I have been saying that every week since the start of the season. There's no reason to stop now, so we'll just keep it going. I want you to queue up my guy, Camario Taylor, Dan Rubenstein. I want to send a big old thank you out to the footballer hood for watching live for making us part of your evening. Hopefully gave you a nice little cap here on a wonderful week of college football. We'll do it again on Monday for that guy over there, Dan, for myself over here, Ty, thank you to one and all for your ongoing support as always play the sound. Y'all be safe. Be smooth and have a great night. 01:25:19 Speaker 2: There it is.