Full Transcript for Sean O'Connell Show with James Peterson - 10-16-26 - Full POD

00:03:41.659 --> 00:03:45.560 There's even just because the Dodgers are a notable West 82 00:03:45.659 --> 00:03:49.139 coast team and we're in the Western United States. There's 83 00:03:49.180 --> 00:03:53.530 a lot of people here who grew up in Utah 84 00:03:54.229 --> 00:03:58.030 and their family. We're all Dodgers fans just because that's 85 00:03:58.090 --> 00:04:01.289 the closest note, most notable baseball team. So I know 86 00:04:01.330 --> 00:04:03.680 we got a fair amount of Dodgers fans here for 87 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:07.860 various reasons, but you know what, in all of your faces, okay. 88 00:04:09.009 --> 00:04:11.590 You can't buy championships. Well, I guess you could buy 89 00:04:11.629 --> 00:04:14.509 two in a row. You cannot buy three in a row. 90 00:04:14.610 --> 00:04:14.949 All right. 91 00:04:14.990 --> 00:04:19.069 The Brewers knock off the hated Dodgers in a sweep. 92 00:04:19.149 --> 00:04:23.000 No less in come from behind fashion and like three 93 00:04:23.009 --> 00:04:25.779 of the four games, if I'm not mistaken, Tyson, at 94 00:04:25.819 --> 00:04:29.639 least the last two games. So, or two of the 95 00:04:29.660 --> 00:04:31.579 last three games at the very least. So shout out 96 00:04:31.699 --> 00:04:38.550 to the Brewers. Great story. And you know, Those poor 97 00:04:38.589 --> 00:04:47.430 Dodgers fans who've just had to wade through so many 98 00:04:47.509 --> 00:04:51.670 unfortunate seasons, they will not win a three-peat this year. 99 00:04:51.709 --> 00:04:55.290 So condolences to all of you, but not really. You 100 00:04:55.329 --> 00:04:58.589 just got back. You just won back-to-back World Series. You're 101 00:04:58.610 --> 00:04:59.189 going to be fine. 102 00:04:59.449 --> 00:05:01.189 Maybe next year. Assuming that there isn't next year. 103 00:05:01.209 --> 00:05:01.610 You know what? 104 00:05:01.670 --> 00:05:06.370 There's always next year, right? Game four, ALCS tonight in Cleveland. 105 00:05:06.410 --> 00:05:12.449 Guardians and Rays. Guardians lead Tampa 2-1. That's, again, in 106 00:05:12.509 --> 00:05:15.629 Cleveland coverage starting at 530 here on your home of 107 00:05:15.649 --> 00:05:19.490 the MLB playoffs, ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. That's right 108 00:05:19.529 --> 00:05:22.910 after just a slightly shorter drive with Spence Check. It's 109 00:05:22.930 --> 00:05:26.009 going until 530 instead of 6. 110 00:05:26.009 --> 00:05:26.620 So we got. 111 00:05:27.980 --> 00:05:31.639 Baseball playoffs on the station tonight, the only series left. 112 00:05:32.480 --> 00:05:34.500 We'll talk a little bit more about that maybe in 113 00:05:34.540 --> 00:05:38.439 the Daily Dump, maybe later in the show. Utah, Colorado, 114 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:42.389 tomorrow it's an 8-15 kickoff. This one's not going to 115 00:05:42.410 --> 00:05:46.029 be moved up. We are not going to have hurricane 116 00:05:46.089 --> 00:05:52.480 or tropical storm remnants in Denver area, in the Boulder area. uh,

tomorrow. 117 00:05:52.879 --> 00:05:56.939 So this one should stay 15 Tyson, uh, 10 hours 118 00:05:56.980 --> 00:05:59.620 of game day coverage beginning at four 15 with Porter 119 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:02.420 Larson and the pregame show, just like each and every week. 120 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.240 You can watch that show by the way, on YouTube 121 00:06:05.779 --> 00:06:10.720 as well at ESPN 700 sports, Utah, we've gotten pretty good, uh, 122 00:06:10.860 --> 00:06:14.220 engagement on those pregame shows on YouTube. So if you 123 00:06:14.259 --> 00:06:17.240 haven't checked those out yet, uh, check out Porter Larson 124 00:06:17.459 --> 00:06:20.220 and the pregame show, uh, tomorrow, starting at four 15, uh, 125 00:06:21.490 --> 00:06:24.350 And again, 8.15 kickoff here on your home of the 126 00:06:24.490 --> 00:06:27.779 Utes and your home for football. We got a great 127 00:06:27.819 --> 00:06:33.240 guest list for you. And I fall into that sports 128 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:35.579 talk radio host guy. I always say it's going to 129 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:37.199 be a great show today. And we got a great 130 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:41.620 guest list. People listening are like, well, it better be, right? 131 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.850 Like that's the plan, right? So, of course, once again, 132 00:06:45.939 --> 00:06:50.569 a great guest list for you. Dan Sorensen. Ute Zone founder, 133 00:06:50.589 --> 00:06:52.970 Ute Zone publisher. We were not able to do a 134 00:06:53.089 --> 00:06:55.709 Ute Zone Wednesday this week because Devin Dampier ended up 135 00:06:55.730 --> 00:06:58.449 being live on Wednesday in the regular time slot there. 136 00:06:58.500 --> 00:07:00.800 So we're going to do a Ute Zone Friday on 137 00:07:00.819 --> 00:07:05.120 this football Friday with Dan Sorensen at noon. Lee Sterling, 138 00:07:05.180 --> 00:07:10.500 Paramount Sports, talking sports betting for entertainment purposes only, of course. 139 00:07:13.709 --> 00:07:17.180 at 1245 in his regular spot. Usually we get to 140 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:19.100 him at 1250, to be honest with you, but it's 141 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:22.560 somewhere near the bottom of the noon hour. We'll have 142 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:29.560 Lee Sterling give you some great betting lines for the 143 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.230 college and pro football season. Again, for entertainment purposes only, 144 00:07:33.250 --> 00:07:36.250 of course. And then Daily Dump at 1230, of course. 145 00:07:37.069 --> 00:07:38.050 Coordinator's Corner. 146 00:07:38.310 --> 00:07:42.899 We talked with Mac G, Kevin McGivin, the offensive coordinator 147 00:07:42.939 --> 00:07:47.040 this week, OC did anyway. So that was obviously recorded 148 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:49.399 earlier in the week. You'll get to hear that at 149 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.180 one o'clock as we are want to do coordinators corner 150 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:56.939 brought to you by mountain home services, by the way, 151 00:07:57.060 --> 00:08:00.860 and then airing of grievances. If you just cannot wait, 152 00:08:01.459 --> 00:08:04.939 if you got something bugging you right now, go ahead 153 00:08:04.980 --> 00:08:07.279 and send us a text. Don't start dialing the phone 154 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:07.839 line yet. 155 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:09.480 We'll wait till one 30. 156 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:11.730 If you want to be live on the air, Um, 157 00:08:12.129 --> 00:08:15.250 but go ahead and send us a text 8 7 158 00:08:15.250 --> 00:08:16.430 7 3 5 3 0 700. If you just need 159 00:08:16.449 --> 00:08:19.389 to get it off your chest in text form right now, 160 00:08:19.750 --> 00:08:22.189 we'll wait till one 30 to read them off, but 161 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:25.259 go ahead and get those grievances in to our text 162 00:08:25.339 --> 00:08:28.959 line right now. 8 7 7 3 5 3 0 700. 163 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.759 Tyson's got a couple, at least a couple of grievances 164 00:08:31.819 --> 00:08:32.399 on one. 165 00:08:32.419 --> 00:08:34.620 My internet's not working right now, so I can't get 166 00:08:34.639 --> 00:08:34.980 to my. 167 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.450 Email a little early Tyson. 168 00:08:37.730 --> 00:08:38.110 All right. 169 00:08:38.970 --> 00:08:44.289 But yes, that is frustrating. Um, and then I know 170 00:08:44.309 --> 00:08:46.110 you got that one and a couple others. I got 171 00:08:46.129 --> 00:08:48.950 a couple to, to get off my chest around one 30. 172 00:08:48.950 --> 00:08:52.899 And I know you guys always do. And, uh, yeah, again, 173 00:08:52.940 --> 00:08:55.559 wait till one 30. Actually, if you want to call 174 00:08:55.659 --> 00:08:58.899 us and talk to me directly on the air about 175 00:08:58.940 --> 00:09:01.080 your grievance, get that off your chest, wait till one 176 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.620 30 there, but you can text it in right now. 177 00:09:03.659 --> 00:09:06.350 We'll, we'll get them in the queue as it were. 178 00:09:06.370 --> 00:09:09.889 Uh, want to start off today though, Tyson with, uh, 179 00:09:10.850 --> 00:09:16.429 probably the topic of the day in college football, which 180 00:09:16.629 --> 00:09:19.549 is not the BYU Notre Dame game tomorrow, which is 181 00:09:20.029 --> 00:09:23.720 obviously a huge thing. Two top 10 teams game day 182 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.639 in Provo, Steve Young, celebrity picker. We'll, we'll get to 183 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:29.940 that a little later, but the topic of the day 184 00:09:30.019 --> 00:09:32.779 nationally is what broke at the end of the show. Well, 185 00:09:32.830 --> 00:09:36.289 middle of the show yesterday, Tyson, Pete Thamel reported and 186 00:09:36.330 --> 00:09:41.320 Heather Dinich reported that the 2014 playoff is just All 187 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:46.820 but guaranteed to get started next season. Pending final approvals. 188 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.610 I have not seen an update beyond that. So it 189 00:09:49.620 -->

00:09:54.970 has not been made official yet. But it's official enough 190 00:09:55.149 --> 00:09:57.610 that you got insiders like Pete Thamel and Heather Dinich 191 00:09:57.649 --> 00:10:00.549 who break these kinds of stories. break this kind of 192 00:10:00.610 --> 00:10:03.809 news saying that it's going to happen starting next season. 193 00:10:03.889 --> 00:10:08.190 So 2014 playoff field, it's 12 team for one more 194 00:10:08.230 --> 00:10:14.399 year this season. Unfortunately, when it comes to BYU, Utah 195 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:19.049 and Texas tech and other big 12 teams, it's not 196 00:10:19.070 --> 00:10:21.070 a 2014 playoff this year because that if it were 197 00:10:21.090 --> 00:10:23.570 a 2014 playoff this year, there'd be three, maybe four 198 00:10:23.590 --> 00:10:26.289 teams in the field from the big 12, maybe even 199 00:10:26.340 --> 00:10:30.460 all five that are ranked right now in the field, 200 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:36.360 including Utah and BYU. But this year it's going to 201 00:10:36.399 --> 00:10:40.110 be half that size. Once again, 12 team, good chance 202 00:10:40.450 --> 00:10:42.950 right now. It looks like that two of those teams 203 00:10:42.990 --> 00:10:46.480 gets in, especially if BYU is, pulls off the upset 204 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.000 at home against Notre Dame tomorrow. 205 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:49.139 But I digress. 206 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:53.639 Well, first thing I wanted to look at, Tyson, is 207 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:58.549 how many times the CFP has been around since 2014. 208 00:10:58.549 --> 00:11:01.029 It was a four-team field, of course, for the first 209 00:11:01.110 --> 00:11:03.710 about 10 years, and then the last few years it's 210 00:11:03.750 --> 00:11:09.309 been a 12-team field. Assuming that all, what's this, the 13th, 12th, 211 00:11:09.340 --> 00:11:16.070 13th season of the CFP? Assuming that Baker's dozen years 212 00:11:16.470 --> 00:11:20.289 were always a 2014 field, how many times would Utah 213 00:11:20.330 --> 00:11:23.110 and BYU have made the playoff? 214 00:11:23.809 --> 00:11:25.769 I would think quite a few times. 215 00:11:27.009 --> 00:11:27.549 For Utah? 216 00:11:27.789 --> 00:11:28.570 Probably eight times. 217 00:11:28.590 --> 00:11:31.669 Okay, you nailed it with Utah eight times. Do you 218 00:11:31.710 --> 00:11:32.649 have a guess for BYU? 219 00:11:33.210 --> 00:11:33.950 Probably six. 220 00:11:34.330 --> 00:11:35.309 Six? You're close there. 221 00:11:35.350 --> 00:11:35.710 It's four. 222 00:11:36.590 --> 00:11:38.730 So eight for Utah, four for BYU. 223 00:11:38.830 --> 00:11:41.830 And the reason why it's half as many times for 224 00:11:41.850 --> 00:11:45.789 BYU is because that independence era, BYU just did not 225 00:11:45.929 --> 00:11:49.929 have enough great seasons in that independence era. And they 226 00:11:49.950 --> 00:11:52.860 didn't have as much, they wouldn't have had as much 227 00:11:52.929 --> 00:11:55.600 access to the playoff because they're not in a conference, right, 228 00:11:55.639 --> 00:11:57.679 in that time. So that kind of, that hampered them 229 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:02.240 in the first, what, almost 10 years, nine, 10 years 230 00:12:02.820 --> 00:12:03.539 of the playoff. 231 00:12:04.379 --> 00:12:06.360 On both teams, they could be very consistent over the 232 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:09.620 next decade, assuming it's a 2014 playoff and assuming both 233 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.559 programs continue to be as consistent as they have been. 234 00:12:13.580 --> 00:12:15.960 I think what concerns me, though, as you talk about 235 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.320 BYU's huge game tomorrow against Notre Dame, if it's a 236 00:12:19.299 --> 00:12:23.350 2014 playoff, is that game as big? Is that game 237 00:12:23.409 --> 00:12:26.450 as big knowing that, all right, if BYU loses, they're 238 00:12:26.470 --> 00:12:29.110 probably still in the playoff. If Notre Dame loses, they're 239 00:12:29.129 --> 00:12:31.870 probably still in the playoff. BYU-Utah in a few weeks, 240 00:12:31.929 --> 00:12:34.080 part of what makes that such a huge game is 241 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:36.580 the thought that there's a playoff spot on the line. Well, 242 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:38.600 if both teams are undefeated going into that game, one 243 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:42.639 loss isn't going to hurt them that much. Does that 244 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.460 game feel as big if it's just, well, both teams 245 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:46.740 are going to be in the playoff anyway? 246 00:12:47.039 --> 00:12:48.440 Absolutely, and we'll get into that. 247 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:51.740 That's certainly a concern that I share, and I think 248 00:12:51.779 --> 00:12:53.639 a lot of people, a lot of college football fans 249 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:58.710 and media share that concern. But going back to how 250 00:12:58.730 --> 00:13:00.210 many times I would have made it, Utah would have 251 00:13:00.230 --> 00:13:03.399 made it eight times BYU would have made it for 252 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:08.529 Utah's eight times in a 2014 field if that was 253 00:13:08.610 --> 00:13:12.710 what the field had been the entire existence of the 254 00:13:12.750 --> 00:13:15.549 college football playoff going back to the 2014 season would 255 00:13:15.570 --> 00:13:19.970 have been 2014 through 2016. All three of those years 256 00:13:20.009 --> 00:13:23.919 they would have been in the 2014 field. 2018 and 257 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:27.620 19 when they lost in the Pac-12 championship game first 258 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:30.379 against Washington and then against Oregon they would have been 259 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:34.049 in the field. 21 and 22 when they were Pac-12 260 00:13:34.090 --> 00:13:36.929 champions obviously would have been in the field as an 261 00:13:37.029 --> 00:13:40.029 automatic bid, but also even if they weren't an automatic bid, 262 00:13:40.049 --> 00:13:41.639 they

would have been high enough in the rankings to 263 00:13:41.659 --> 00:13:46.000 make a 2014 field back then. And last year, they finished, what, 264 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:49.279 15th in the country? They easily would have been in 265 00:13:49.299 --> 00:13:53.799 a 2014 field last year. So that's the eight times. 266 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:57.070 For BYU, it's all since 2020. So you got that 267 00:13:57.139 --> 00:14:01.570 COVID season that catapulted Zach Wilson into number two overall pick. 268 00:14:02.309 --> 00:14:04.269 For the Jets, he was incredible that season. 269 00:14:04.370 --> 00:14:07.679 BYU has one loss at the end of the year 270 00:14:07.740 --> 00:14:10.220 against Coastal Carolina. They still would have made the playoff 271 00:14:10.259 --> 00:14:13.980 if it were a 24-team field. The very next year 272 00:14:14.019 --> 00:14:18.179 in 21, when there was at least a 10-win season, 273 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.639 maybe an 11-win season, when they beat Utah for the 274 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.629 first time in forever. Cam Rising, of course, doesn't play 275 00:14:26.649 --> 00:14:29.629 in that game. Utes fans like to think, and I personally, 276 00:14:30.759 --> 00:14:32.879 tend to lean this way too. That was a close 277 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:36.019 enough game. If you have the quarterback that everyone feels 278 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:39.320 was the right quarterback instead of Charlie Brewer playing, maybe 279 00:14:39.340 --> 00:14:41.379 that game goes differently, but he didn't play. 280 00:14:41.620 --> 00:14:41.919 Okay. 281 00:14:41.940 --> 00:14:44.200 So, so that's a win for BYU in the record 282 00:14:44.220 --> 00:14:47.799 books and always will be anyway, that great, those back-to-back 283 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:49.659 great seasons for BYU, they would have been in a 284 00:14:49.659 --> 00:14:53.679 24 team playoff field. Um, and then the last two 285 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:56.840 years for BYU 24 and 25, they would have easily 286 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:00.809 been in a 24 team playoff field. And this year, 287 00:15:01.409 --> 00:15:05.669 if it were 24 teams, they're both undefeated, Utah and BYU. 288 00:15:05.690 --> 00:15:10.009 So they're trending towards– and BYU's top 10, Utah's right 289 00:15:10.029 --> 00:15:14.299 outside the top 10 right now. So they're both trending 290 00:15:14.379 --> 00:15:19.000 towards being included in a 24-team field if that was 291 00:15:19.379 --> 00:15:23.220 the playoff format for this year. So you're looking at 292 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:26.250 a ninth year for Utah, a fifth year for BYU, 293 00:15:26.769 --> 00:15:28.789 a third year in a row for BYU if that 294 00:15:28.809 --> 00:15:32.590 was– if that was the format this year. So that 295 00:15:32.629 --> 00:15:38.830 gives you an idea of the upside, reason for feeling 296 00:15:38.929 --> 00:15:43.700 good about a 24-team field for us local fans and media, 297 00:15:45.539 --> 00:15:48.639 people that cover

the team and people that root for 298 00:15:48.659 --> 00:15:53.940 these teams. More years than not, Utah and BYU. 299 00:15:54.820 --> 00:15:55.399 we'll make a. 300 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:59.379 2014 playoff field as long as the house is in order, right? 301 00:15:59.419 --> 00:16:02.970 As long as you would think Kalani Satake is leading BYU, 302 00:16:03.009 --> 00:16:06.389 as long as Morgan Scali is leading Utah, they're going 303 00:16:06.409 --> 00:16:09.789 to make the playoffs. So that's a reason to feel 304 00:16:09.809 --> 00:16:12.409 good about it. Spence, at the end of the last show, Tyson, 305 00:16:12.490 --> 00:16:17.279 called it the middle class benefiting from this. Middle class meaning, like, 306 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:20.639 numbers 13 through 25 in the top 25 every year, 307 00:16:20.659 --> 00:16:21.080 who those teams. 308 00:16:24.549 --> 00:16:27.929 Always are missing out on certainly a four-team playoff, the 309 00:16:27.970 --> 00:16:34.629 original four-team playoff, and this current 12-team field. But 24-team field, 310 00:16:35.620 --> 00:16:37.620 all but one of those teams are in, right? So that, 311 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:40.860 if you call that the middle class, absolutely benefits those teams. 312 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:44.980 You get access. But you bring up, you brought up, Tyson, 313 00:16:45.019 --> 00:16:48.480 a really important point, which is, and Spence brought this 314 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.659 up too, I've heard others bring it up on national shows. 315 00:16:52.379 --> 00:16:54.679 I tend to agree with this too. Does it dilute 316 00:16:55.320 --> 00:17:00.120 the regular season too much? Will we still feel the 317 00:17:00.220 --> 00:17:06.180 same high stakes in the Holy war game in Ohio state? 318 00:17:06.420 --> 00:17:07.269 I'm Ohio state fan. 319 00:17:07.289 --> 00:17:10.490 Of course, not just the game against Michigan, but they 320 00:17:10.509 --> 00:17:13.509 played number one and number four, Texas this year, number 321 00:17:13.549 --> 00:17:16.390 four at the time, Texas, Ohio state was preseason. Number 322 00:17:16.430 --> 00:17:20.920 one at the time, they lose that game to Texas and, Already, 323 00:17:21.579 --> 00:17:24.009 Ohio State still feels like they're in no danger of 324 00:17:24.049 --> 00:17:30.430 missing the playoff because of that. But it's like, you 325 00:17:30.470 --> 00:17:33.089 don't even have to play your best game. You don't 326 00:17:33.109 --> 00:17:34.849 have to have sweat that you play your best game. 327 00:17:34.869 --> 00:17:38.170 With a 2014 playoff, you lose that game. So these 328 00:17:38.630 --> 00:17:41.200 huge games on the schedule, whether they be rivalry games 329 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:47.279 or great ranked-on-ranked non-conference games, do they have any meaning 330 00:17:47.539 --> 00:17:47.859 in a 2014 field? 331 00:17:51.130 --> 00:17:54.890 Oh, they probably do if you're ranked 20, if you're 22, 23, 24, 332 00:17:54.890 -->

00:17:57.509 but those probably aren't huge games because you're kind of 333 00:17:57.529 --> 00:17:59.569 in the middle of the pack. Nobody's thinking of, okay, 334 00:17:59.589 --> 00:18:02.339 number 20 versus number 24 being a huge game. All 335 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:04.440 of a sudden that may be a bigger game because 336 00:18:04.500 --> 00:18:07.920 of playoff implications, but you'd like to see top 10 games, 337 00:18:08.259 --> 00:18:11.420 you know, have a similar type of meaning. You maybe 338 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:14.660 hope that one benefit could be if there's 24 playoff 339 00:18:14.700 --> 00:18:16.920 teams that maybe more teams will have the incentive of 340 00:18:16.980 --> 00:18:20.789 playing tougher non-conference games as opposed to Indiana playing, uh, 341 00:18:21.109 --> 00:18:24.569 Kearns high school, Taylorsville high school, and mixing in with the, 342 00:18:24.630 --> 00:18:28.170 some Sunbelt school. That's our non-conference schedule. You know, maybe 343 00:18:28.210 --> 00:18:30.650 it may be, you know, some other teams would be like, well, 344 00:18:31.410 --> 00:18:33.690 one loss isn't going to hurt us that much. So 345 00:18:33.710 --> 00:18:35.500 maybe we can go out and go play a tough 346 00:18:35.539 --> 00:18:36.460 non-conference game. 347 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:38.519 The fans want to see, I mean, think about this again, 348 00:18:38.539 --> 00:18:44.359 Ohio state, they had a big noon kickoff game the 349 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.680 same day that the actual big noon kickoff show was 350 00:18:47.740 --> 00:18:51.970 in London. for Arizona State-Kansas, a Big 12 game. The 351 00:18:52.109 --> 00:18:56.549 actual 10 a.m. game was in Columbus. They were playing 352 00:18:56.630 --> 00:19:00.390 Kent State this year. Gus Johnson fell asleep on the air, 353 00:19:00.450 --> 00:19:01.490 pretty much. 354 00:19:01.529 --> 00:19:04.170 He was incredibly bored by the time Ohio State made 355 00:19:04.190 --> 00:19:04.529 it 42-0. 356 00:19:05.380 --> 00:19:05.890 Exactly. 357 00:19:06.230 --> 00:19:10.339 And that's Gus Johnson, who's always excited, right? So that's 358 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:16.829 what we have now when... Teams are kind of afraid 359 00:19:17.490 --> 00:19:22.789 to lose games in September because it's only a 12-team field, right? 360 00:19:22.829 --> 00:19:28.539 You can't really afford more than two losses and feel 361 00:19:28.579 --> 00:19:33.279 like you can make the playoff as an at-large. Certainly 362 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:37.339 can't really afford to lose more than one game and 363 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.789 make the field as an automatic bid. in a power 364 00:19:39.809 --> 00:19:43.140 for conference is a conference champion, right? You get the 365 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:49.069 occasional three, three loss team that gets in, but in 366 00:19:49.109 --> 00:19:51.119 the 14 playoffs, it's like, as soon as you lost 367 00:19:51.140 --> 00:19:53.660 your second game, you were basically eliminated in this 12 368 00:19:53.660 --> 00:19:56.019 team playoff. As soon as you lose your third game, 369 00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:59.799 you're basically eliminated in a 2014 playoff. You may not 370 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:02.359 be completely out of it till you lose your fourth game. 371 00:20:03.539 --> 00:20:05.400 So in the sec or big 10. 372 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:05.640 Yeah. 373 00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:08.000 So that, I mean, is there going to be the 374 00:20:08.099 --> 00:20:12.200 same kind of stakes, same kind of meaning to every 375 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:16.079 game on the schedule? I think naturally it will not, 376 00:20:16.380 --> 00:20:19.089 that will not exist. You bring up a benefit though, 377 00:20:19.180 --> 00:20:23.789 a potential benefit though, Tyson, because you can afford to 378 00:20:23.890 --> 00:20:26.990 lose multiple games and still be in the playoff picture. 379 00:20:28.390 --> 00:20:31.369 The hope is, and I've heard this, Ted Robinson was 380 00:20:31.430 --> 00:20:32.170 on with Spence check. 381 00:20:32.210 --> 00:20:32.789 It's yesterday. 382 00:20:32.859 --> 00:20:36.519 The, uh, the, former Pac-12 network legend, and he's done 383 00:20:36.619 --> 00:20:40.069 so many other things, pro and college sports. He was 384 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.230 on the show yesterday because he's a Notre Dame alum, 385 00:20:42.789 --> 00:20:46.109 and they were talking a lot about this Notre Dame-BYU game. 386 00:20:47.250 --> 00:20:51.220 And Ted brought up, did you watch the games in 387 00:20:51.259 --> 00:20:54.519 September from the Power 4 teams? I brought up a 388 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.400 glaring one. for me as an Ohio state fan, when 389 00:20:57.420 --> 00:20:59.680 they played Kent state on big noon, on a big 390 00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:01.660 noon kickoff game, like no, no, thank you. 391 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:03.339 Even me. I'm like, I don't need to watch that. 392 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:04.000 Sorry. 393 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.960 Um, I would have preferred that you just put the 394 00:21:08.730 --> 00:21:14.029 Kansas a ASU at 10 AM mountain time, big noon kickoff, 395 00:21:14.869 --> 00:21:17.670 even though that game doesn't have a lot of juice 396 00:21:17.730 --> 00:21:19.890 to it. Other than the fact that it's at Wembley stadium, 397 00:21:20.059 --> 00:21:22.690 like at least it's two power four teams going at it. 398 00:21:22.819 --> 00:21:23.039 Right. 399 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:28.289 Um, you had Texas and Ohio state play, but every 400 00:21:28.309 --> 00:21:31.009 year there's like two or three of those big time, 401 00:21:31.069 --> 00:21:36.460 top five, top 10 matchups in, uh, in September, maybe 402 00:21:37.039 --> 00:21:40.539 you get a full month of that with a 2014 playoff. 403 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:43.420 Cause you're not, you're way less afraid to lose a game. 404 00:21:43.900 --> 00:21:46.640 Maybe instead of an FCS opponent, as your tune in 405

00:21:46.660 --> 00:21:48.519 game to start tune up game to start the year 406 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:52.319 and a G six opponent group of six opponent, the, 407 00:21:52.640 --> 00:21:56.009 the next week, and then you play maybe a, a 408 00:21:56.130 --> 00:21:59.990 power four team in the non-conference or a higher, even 409 00:22:00.029 --> 00:22:03.710 higher level group of 16, whatever. Maybe you have only 410 00:22:03.750 --> 00:22:06.690 an FCS opponent and then you play a couple of 411 00:22:06.730 --> 00:22:10.150 power four teams in the non-conference because it might be 412 00:22:10.210 --> 00:22:14.170 ranked alongside you because you're not afraid of losing that 413 00:22:14.210 --> 00:22:17.279 game anymore. You're not feeling like if we lose, we 414 00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:20.259 might be out of the playoff picture soon. That could 415 00:22:20.299 --> 00:22:22.380 be a potential benefit. I think that that might be 416 00:22:22.420 --> 00:22:25.319 a little bit wishful thinking though, Tyson, just because teams 417 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:31.269 can seemingly can do that, can start to feel safer about, 418 00:22:31.769 --> 00:22:34.730 potentially losing one of those games, doesn't mean they want 419 00:22:34.930 --> 00:22:36.369 to schedule. 420 00:22:36.490 --> 00:22:38.519 Tough opponents in September. 421 00:22:38.900 --> 00:22:42.180 I still think we're going to have soft schedules to 422 00:22:42.220 --> 00:22:44.700 start this season, but hopefully less of that. 423 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.500 It's like what Steve Sarkeesian mentioned, yet he doesn't want 424 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:50.890 to play Ohio State, lose by a field goal or 425 00:22:50.970 --> 00:22:54.609 something like that, and then drop five spots in the rankings, 426 00:22:54.650 --> 00:22:58.470 and then eventually maybe miss a playoff spot because they 427 00:22:58.529 --> 00:23:02.900 scheduled a tough non-conference team. played them close, and somebody's 428 00:23:02.920 --> 00:23:05.339 got to win and somebody's got to lose. And so 429 00:23:05.740 --> 00:23:09.400 hopefully with that, just give them some more incentive. I mean, 430 00:23:09.660 --> 00:23:12.599 you look at a matchup this week where in a 431 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:16.619 2014 playoff format, Mississippi State and LSU becomes a huge game. 432 00:23:16.700 --> 00:23:20.410 Mississippi State's 16th in the country, LSU's 24th. So maybe 433 00:23:20.430 --> 00:23:23.569 instead of the top 10 matchups being huge, maybe matchups 434 00:23:23.609 --> 00:23:26.210 like that become huge in the 2014 playoff. 435 00:23:26.230 --> 00:23:27.190 The middle class matchups. 436 00:23:28.829 --> 00:23:30.490 You know, might be on the outside looking in and 437 00:23:30.549 --> 00:23:31.250 that scenario. 438 00:23:31.430 --> 00:23:31.710 Yeah. 439 00:23:32.029 --> 00:23:33.789 And that's another benefit. 440 00:23:34.630 --> 00:23:37.130 More access means later in the year, you're going to 441 00:23:37.170 --> 00:23:41.339 have more games that feel like they have higher stakes. 442 00:23:42.700 --> 00:23:46.460 Also though, we see something in the NBA and the 443 00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:50.559 NFL in particular, all the time when the number one seed, 444 00:23:52.089 --> 00:23:54.529 when someone clinches a number one seed, when someone clinches 445 00:23:54.609 --> 00:23:57.089 a number two seed, what do they do? 446 00:23:57.150 --> 00:23:57.549 Tyson? 447 00:23:58.049 --> 00:24:01.940 They, they rest their starters for the last couple for 448 00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:04.039 the last game or two in the NBA. It's like 449 00:24:04.059 --> 00:24:07.109 the last week in, in NFL, it's, it's one or 450 00:24:07.140 --> 00:24:09.630 two games. I remember I'm old enough to remember as 451 00:24:09.670 --> 00:24:12.549 a Colts fan, 2009, the last time they went to 452 00:24:12.569 --> 00:24:16.369 the super bowl, they were, I think they got to 453 00:24:16.369 --> 00:24:18.869 14 and oh, and they were, they were the ultimate. 454 00:24:18.609 --> 00:24:20.390 Front runners blowout city. 455 00:24:20.470 --> 00:24:23.900 Every game they play their starters, Peyton Manning and company 456 00:24:23.940 --> 00:24:25.799 for a half against the jets at the end of 457 00:24:25.819 --> 00:24:29.160 the season. And it's like a, They might've been up 458 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:32.380 one score. They might've been down one score. Didn't play 459 00:24:32.420 --> 00:24:35.289 their starters second half. And it's like, okay, well there 460 00:24:35.329 --> 00:24:39.069 goes the undefeated. There goes potential undefeated season because they're like, well, 461 00:24:39.089 --> 00:24:41.269 we don't, we care about a super bowl, not an 462 00:24:41.309 --> 00:24:43.710 undefeated regular season. They end up going to the super bowl, 463 00:24:43.750 --> 00:24:45.509 but losing anyway, I digress. 464 00:24:45.670 --> 00:24:47.420 That's Jim Sorge's time to shine. 465 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:50.400 That was that you're right. That was Jim Sorge's time. 466 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:55.680 Good memory by you. Um, but yeah, so that happens. We're, 467 00:24:56.019 --> 00:25:01.329 we're used to that. We've, reluctantly been okay with that 468 00:25:01.410 --> 00:25:03.869 in the NBA and NFL. Are we going to be 469 00:25:03.950 --> 00:25:07.750 okay with that in November in college football? Like think 470 00:25:07.789 --> 00:25:12.039 about rivalry week, Tyson. What if Ohio state, Michigan, what 471 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.599 if Ohio state is locked in the number one overall 472 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:19.000 seed in a 2014 playoff the week before the game, 473 00:25:19.220 --> 00:25:22.299 as they call it over there, Ohio state, Michigan. And 474 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.930 they're like, all right, we're locked in. We got to 475 00:25:26.109 --> 00:25:31.259 keep our guys healthy. starters you're sitting in a rivalry 476 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:35.029 game and the,

maybe the biggest rivalry game in the country, right? 477 00:25:35.329 --> 00:25:39.049 What if the big 12 finally, Brett, your marketing company 478 00:25:39.130 --> 00:25:41.589 finally come to their senses and put the holy war 479 00:25:41.950 --> 00:25:46.049 on rivalry week and Utah locks in a top four seed, 480 00:25:46.109 --> 00:25:48.990 or let's just say, cause we're this all hypothetical. Anyway, 481 00:25:49.009 --> 00:25:53.930 they lock in the number one overall seed and they're like, 482 00:25:53.950 --> 00:25:57.089 you know what? We can't risk injury. This game against 483 00:25:57.130 --> 00:25:59.250 BYU has now become a meaningless game. 484 00:26:00.130 --> 00:26:03.390 We're going to play. Bird Ficklin's going to start, if 485 00:26:03.450 --> 00:26:05.789 it were this season. Bird Ficklin's going to start. You 486 00:26:05.809 --> 00:26:05.990 know what? 487 00:26:06.029 --> 00:26:09.750 Brandon Rose is going to start the game. Third string quarterback, 488 00:26:10.730 --> 00:26:14.170 Brayden Pagan, you don't need to play. Way Sean Parker, 489 00:26:14.190 --> 00:26:18.130 go ahead and sit this one out. Like, that'd be 490 00:26:18.210 --> 00:26:21.690 terrible for college football. And that's something that we might 491 00:26:21.930 --> 00:26:24.390 see in November. 492 00:26:24.450 --> 00:26:26.190 We could see some load management. 493 00:26:26.789 --> 00:26:29.710 While there will, will also be like a matchup, like 494 00:26:29.750 --> 00:26:33.309 you're talking about this week, Mississippi state LSU, bottom half 495 00:26:33.349 --> 00:26:37.190 of the top 25. There, there will be games at 496 00:26:37.230 --> 00:26:39.309 the end of the season like that, that all of 497 00:26:39.349 --> 00:26:41.599 a sudden, okay, this is one I need to tune into. 498 00:26:41.630 --> 00:26:42.819 This got a lot of high stakes. 499 00:26:42.859 --> 00:26:45.079 The teams are going to be up for this game 500 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:48.579 because the loser maybe misses out on the playoff winner 501 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:49.720 secures a spot. 502 00:26:50.099 --> 00:26:50.339 Sure. 503 00:26:50.740 --> 00:26:54.599 But then the biggest games you got second and third stringers, 504 00:26:54.660 --> 00:26:57.819 maybe like, double-edged sword there this week. 505 00:26:57.859 --> 00:27:00.740 You got Ohio state in Indiana, 2014 playoff. We know 506 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:03.440 they're probably both in, whereas, you know, the loser, if 507 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.140 the loser gets blown out in this game, you're going 508 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.059 to have to play with, especially with Ohio state already 509 00:27:08.099 --> 00:27:10.789 having a loss in Indiana, not looking quite like the 510 00:27:10.829 --> 00:27:13.170 way they did last year. I mean, if somebody gets 511 00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:14.990 blown out in that game where they're going to have 512 00:27:15.029 --> 00:27:16.269 to play while the rest of the way to get 513 00:27:16.309 --> 00:27:17.029 a playoff spot. 514 00:27:17.150 --> 00:27:20.069 So, so the potential for load management is something that 515 00:27:20.089 --> 00:27:26.009 would be really bad for college football. Um, But the 516 00:27:26.029 --> 00:27:30.269 good things are the quote-unquote middle class, which BYU and 517 00:27:30.369 --> 00:27:34.990 Utah are in most years, then not. They get more 518 00:27:35.029 --> 00:27:37.779 access to the playoff. They're going to play games and 519 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:42.460 meaningful games in December. Play for a potential national championship 520 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:46.259 in December. Well, so far, haven't had that chance, right? 521 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:51.410 Potentially better games in September. 522 00:27:51.859 --> 00:27:53.779 More ranked on ranked matchups in September. 523 00:27:53.819 --> 00:27:56.220 Cause you don't have as less, less fear of what's 524 00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:59.019 going to happen if you lose those games and more 525 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.660 potentially more meaningful games in November. But then that, that 526 00:28:02.700 --> 00:28:05.720 comes with the drawbacks of 24 too many. 527 00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:07.089 Is that too many teams? 528 00:28:07.410 --> 00:28:07.630 Right. 529 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:12.549 Are we taking, are we saying. 530 00:28:12.309 --> 00:28:15.670 You just decent teams get in now, decent teams can 531 00:28:15.710 --> 00:28:19.450 play for a chance at a national championship now, like not, 532 00:28:19.950 --> 00:28:20.930 good and great teams. 533 00:28:20.970 --> 00:28:23.500 Now you just have to be decent. Like that's not 534 00:28:23.539 --> 00:28:24.019 a great thing. 535 00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.079 I don't certainly downgrades the accomplishment of reaching the playoffs, 536 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.410 you know, with 12 teams, you know, you reach the playoffs. 537 00:28:29.769 --> 00:28:32.349 That's a great accomplishment. That's something that, you know, is 538 00:28:32.390 --> 00:28:35.730 worth celebrating where if it's you for team 22 in 539 00:28:35.750 --> 00:28:38.019 the playoffs, like, all right, we're in, but so is 540 00:28:38.329 --> 00:28:39.470 So are 23 other teams. 541 00:28:39.490 --> 00:28:41.619 How great of an accomplishment is it really? Did you 542 00:28:41.660 --> 00:28:44.400 really earn it, right? It's a great point by you. 543 00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:46.819 And then we talk about, could there be load management 544 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:48.519 at the end of the season? We've never seen that 545 00:28:48.539 --> 00:28:54.009 in college football before. That'd be terrible. And so many 546 00:28:54.029 --> 00:28:57.170 more other unintended consequences, I guess. But here's the thing 547 00:28:57.190 --> 00:29:01.789 that will happen. The power brokers in college football, all 548 00:29:01.829 --> 00:29:07.759 the conferences, Power 4 conferences, all the schools, everyone's going 549

00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:10.480 to get it. everyone's going to get more money. So 550 00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.420 it's going to get, that's all that matters to them. 551 00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:19.819 It's getting pushed through. And honestly, I'm open to just 552 00:29:19.859 --> 00:29:21.940 seeing how it plays out as much as I would 553 00:29:22.019 --> 00:29:25.119 prefer it to be at tops, a 16 team field, 554 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.220 or just keep it at 12 forever. Don't dilute things 555 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.660 too much. Keep it a rare thing, a great accomplishment 556 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.390 to make the playoff and, and the, And the absolute 557 00:29:36.470 --> 00:29:39.019 best teams have a chance in national championship not just 558 00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:43.160 these decent and solid teams that's that's how I would 559 00:29:43.220 --> 00:29:45.859 prefer it to be I'm open to seeing if this 560 00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:49.849 actually ends up being better than expected and you know 561 00:29:49.890 --> 00:29:54.890 what and you know what if Utah and BYU get 562 00:29:54.930 --> 00:29:59.390 in more often I mean that's exciting for us That's 563 00:29:59.450 --> 00:30:02.630 good for people like me who cover the sport. That's 564 00:30:02.670 --> 00:30:06.490 good for the fans of those programs. Certainly the Utes 565 00:30:06.509 --> 00:30:09.450 fans here on the home of the Utes. That's a 566 00:30:09.470 --> 00:30:12.220 good thing. So maybe that's just where we should land 567 00:30:12.539 --> 00:30:12.819 on this. 568 00:30:13.180 --> 00:30:13.759 And we'll see. 569 00:30:14.019 --> 00:30:17.019 We still got a whole year before we know how 570 00:30:17.059 --> 00:30:23.829 this is going to play out. BYU, Notre Dame tomorrow. 5.30 571 00:30:23.829 --> 00:30:26.650 on ABC. Game day is there in the morning starting 572 00:30:26.690 --> 00:30:28.450 at 7 a.m. You're going to have to get there 573 00:30:28.529 --> 00:30:30.450 really early if you want to be one of the 574 00:30:30.470 --> 00:30:34.920 people holding up a sign tomorrow. We've got an injury 575 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:36.420 update we've got to give you brought to you by 576 00:30:36.460 --> 00:30:42.019 the Advocates Injury Attorneys for the Utah game. Nothing necessarily 577 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.230 new on the BYU side of things, but we'll tell 578 00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:49.490 you what we've found out. this week about potential BYU 579 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.420 injuries as well. No official injury report for them because 580 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:54.880 it's not a Big 12 game. We'll do all that 581 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:58.180 and more coming up next in about three minutes on 582 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:00.950 the Sean O'Connell Show. James Peterson filling in for OC 583 00:31:01.009 --> 00:31:02.490 on Utah's number one sports talk. 584 00:31:02.769 --> 00:31:04.710 Your home of the Utes and your home for football. 585 00:31:04.730 --> 00:31:05.200 ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 586 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.359 You tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch 587 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:17.140 Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 at 92.1 FM. 588 00:31:25.609 --> 00:31:30.410 Sean O'Connell Show, Hour One, rolling along here. 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You don't even 599 00:32:08.869 --> 00:32:12.529 have to be going, man, is there someone I can 600 00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:14.109 sue for this? No, you don't even have to be 601 00:32:14.150 --> 00:32:16.670 thinking that way. Just do you have a case? Do 602 00:32:16.710 --> 00:32:21.710 you have a need for a financial need to get 603 00:32:21.910 --> 00:32:26.119 some of this pain or injury taken care of somehow? 604 00:32:26.450 --> 00:32:27.950 And you still have the means for it right now. 605 00:32:28.230 --> 00:32:29.960 And you're wondering, hey, do I have a legal case 606 00:32:30.019 --> 00:32:32.339 on this? Call the Advocates, 801-355-5550 or visit UtahAdvocates.com. 607 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:32.859 They.... 608 00:32:38.970 --> 00:32:41.650 Don't get anything from you. They don't collect a fee 609 00:32:41.690 --> 00:32:46.130 from you unless they win. So calling them and asking 610 00:32:46.170 --> 00:32:48.640 if you have a case, that's free. That's a free consultation. 611 00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:52.599 Getting the, they tell you you got a case. They 612 00:32:52.619 --> 00:32:56.039 start working on that for you. They, they file something 613 00:32:56.099 --> 00:32:58.259 for you in the courts. They get that going for you. 614 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.500 They talk to the insurance companies that may or may 615 00:33:01.539 --> 00:33:04.890 not be withholding some money from you that you need 616 00:33:04.930 --> 00:33:07.990 to take care of your, the, uh, Accident that you're 617 00:33:08.049 --> 00:33:10.349 in whether it's your car that needs repairs or you 618 00:33:10.549 --> 00:33:13.569 again You're just hurt somehow not in a car accident 619 00:33:13.589 --> 00:33:16.049 and you need you need help with your medical bills 620 00:33:16.089 --> 00:33:20.170 or whatever They don't

charge you for any of that 621 00:33:20.210 --> 00:33:24.630 unless you win the case So there's no reason not 622 00:33:24.690 --> 00:33:26.329 to give them a call just to see if you 623 00:33:26.369 --> 00:33:30.250 do have a case get that free consultation and let 624 00:33:30.390 --> 00:33:35.299 them Advocate for you. That's the Utah advocates injury attorneys 625 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.809 and You didn't deserve to be an accident, but you 626 00:33:37.890 --> 00:33:43.109 do deserve an advocate. Update to the official Big 12 627 00:33:43.109 --> 00:33:45.910 football availability report, injury report. 628 00:33:47.789 --> 00:33:50.210 No, nothing new for Utah. J.C. 629 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.059 Hart, cornerback, is still out. Preston Pitts, the linebacker, is 630 00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:59.000 still listed as doubtful. Colorado, it looks about the same 631 00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.819 to me. Still, just like I said yesterday, still only 632 00:34:03.059 --> 00:34:07.400 one notable player on the injury report. And that's Lamont 633 00:34:07.539 --> 00:34:11.500 Lester Jr. He's still listed as questionable. He is their 634 00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:14.360 sack leader, and he's second on the team in tackles 635 00:34:14.380 --> 00:34:18.440 for loss. Everyone else on the injury report, not really 636 00:34:18.500 --> 00:34:21.489 key players for Colorado. A lot of people listed as out. 637 00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:25.230 Lester listed as questionable. 638 00:34:25.690 --> 00:34:26.369 He's a big deal. 639 00:34:26.690 --> 00:34:30.010 If he can't play, that's even more reason for optimism 640 00:34:30.070 --> 00:34:31.989 for the Utes. And then the good news for the 641 00:34:32.090 --> 00:34:34.099 Utes is, obviously, you don't want to see anybody injured. 642 00:34:34.510 --> 00:34:35.110 But J.C. 643 00:34:35.150 --> 00:34:37.710 Hart, Preston Pitts, those are guys who have not played 644 00:34:37.750 --> 00:34:43.429 very much for Utah. So you certainly can get by 645 00:34:43.469 --> 00:34:47.679 without those guys in a game against Colorado, especially tomorrow 646 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:53.539 night in Boulder. Something else to note here, Carson Kalfusi, 647 00:34:53.579 --> 00:34:57.409 who's been playing through some kind of injury. He's been 648 00:34:57.469 --> 00:34:59.489 listed as questionable the last few weeks, most of the 649 00:34:59.530 --> 00:35:02.369 weeks this season. He's not on the injury report at all. 650 00:35:02.409 --> 00:35:04.170 He wasn't on it yesterday. He's not on it today. 651 00:35:04.989 --> 00:35:08.349 And Ike Garcia, the offensive lineman who hasn't played a 652 00:35:08.369 --> 00:35:11.579 game yet this year, if I'm not mistaken. He's been 653 00:35:11.619 --> 00:35:14.280 on the injury report every week this season, whether he's 654 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:18.280 out or questionable. He is not on this injury report. 655 00:35:18.300 --> 00:35:21.519 So we might see Ike Garcia out there in Boulder

tomorrow, 656 00:35:21.539 --> 00:35:26.050 which is a big deal. Bolster this offensive line depth. And, 657 00:35:26.329 --> 00:35:29.110 you know, great to hear for Ike because his career, 658 00:35:29.929 --> 00:35:32.030 he's a guy who's thought to have a lot of 659 00:35:32.070 --> 00:35:34.550 talent but hasn't really been able to show it. Because 660 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.619 his whole career thus far, this season included, he's just 661 00:35:37.659 --> 00:35:40.380 been out with injuries. So hopefully we get to see 662 00:35:40.420 --> 00:35:44.739 him on the field tomorrow night against Colorado. BYU, no 663 00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:47.559 official Big 12 injury report because Notre Dame is not 664 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:50.039 a Big 12 team. So this is not a conference game. 665 00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.440 So we don't have anything official. But we heard Aaron 666 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.800 Roderick say earlier in the week, Sione Moa is medically 667 00:35:57.929 --> 00:36:01.769 cleared to play. He also said that he can't guarantee that. 668 00:36:01.690 --> 00:36:02.250 He will play. 669 00:36:03.309 --> 00:36:05.969 One of those game-time decisions type things. And with L.J. 670 00:36:06.010 --> 00:36:08.409 Martin out, that's certainly going to be a big one 671 00:36:08.570 --> 00:36:10.659 if they can get him out. Even if he's a 672 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:13.199 decoy out there. You want him to be out there 673 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:17.039 just for the threat of a solid running back back there. 674 00:36:17.820 --> 00:36:21.599 It really would be huge if he can play. Especially given, 675 00:36:21.619 --> 00:36:24.739 like you said, that L.J. Martin is still out. He's 676 00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.400 not expected to be back until, if you're a BYU fan, 677 00:36:28.420 --> 00:36:30.639 you're hoping the Holy War game. 678 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.800 But it could be longer than that. 679 00:36:33.429 --> 00:36:35.630 Yeah, they're definitely shooting to get him back for that 680 00:36:35.750 --> 00:36:40.250 Utah game because regardless of what happens tomorrow against Notre Dame, 681 00:36:40.269 --> 00:36:42.639 BYU is going to be playing for a Big 12 championship, 682 00:36:42.659 --> 00:36:46.880 and they're at least hoping that they can be either 683 00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.420 undefeated or have one loss going into that Utah game. 684 00:36:50.219 --> 00:36:53.010 There is one big story for Notre Dame involving an injury, 685 00:36:53.030 --> 00:36:57.610 and that's All-American cornerback Leonard Moore. As Marcus Freeman yesterday 686 00:36:57.690 --> 00:37:01.699 said that– more is expected to play after missing some 687 00:37:01.739 --> 00:37:03.860 time and he is an all American cornerback. So it'd 688 00:37:03.900 --> 00:37:06.000 be certainly huge for Notre Dame if he can play. 689 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.280 Yeah, that's a big deal. I did not see that. 690 00:37:08.409 --> 00:37:11.190 So thank you Tyson

for bringing that to our attention. 691 00:37:12.230 --> 00:37:14.530 Speaking of Marcus Freeman, he's on our TVs right now 692 00:37:14.610 --> 00:37:19.250 on ESPN on the Pat McAfee show. Probably talking about 693 00:37:19.289 --> 00:37:23.239 that in particular, but it looks like breaking down tomorrow's 694 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.559 game as well. So that's a big, that's two key 695 00:37:27.579 --> 00:37:32.769 guys that, For each team that could end up playing tomorrow, 696 00:37:32.809 --> 00:37:36.110 it sounds like Leonard Moore will play for Notre Dame. 697 00:37:36.349 --> 00:37:38.230 Sione Moa, we don't know if he's going to play, 698 00:37:38.250 --> 00:37:40.590 but we know that he is medically cleared to play. 699 00:37:40.610 --> 00:37:43.030 He may not be ready to play, I guess is 700 00:37:43.070 --> 00:37:46.190 how I would characterize that. If you're a BYU fan, 701 00:37:46.349 --> 00:37:50.239 you're praying, you're hoping that Sione Moa can be out 702 00:37:50.260 --> 00:37:52.920 there because we've seen what he can do when he's healthy. 703 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:55.739 Tyson, I talk to O.C. all the time, too. 704 00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.719 I almost called you O.C., we've seen what he can 705 00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.340 do when he's healthy, not just as a running back, 706 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.059 but as a kick returner, punt returner would be huge 707 00:38:05.030 --> 00:38:08.489 because he's a, he's a contributor in multiple fronts for 708 00:38:08.530 --> 00:38:11.710 this team. And we'll see if he, we'll see if 709 00:38:11.750 --> 00:38:14.929 he ends up being available. Stay tuned to game day tomorrow. 710 00:38:14.949 --> 00:38:19.820 It of course in Provo and all day leading up 711 00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.300 to that game to see if we, we see Moa 712 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.150 out there. But speaking of, this BYU Notre Dame game. 713 00:38:27.429 --> 00:38:29.690 I said this to you off air Tyson. I just, 714 00:38:29.929 --> 00:38:34.579 I have nothing more to say about Utah, Colorado. Go 715 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:35.539 win Utah. 716 00:38:35.739 --> 00:38:38.099 Like just take care of business. It's almost like playing 717 00:38:38.139 --> 00:38:41.239 one of those non-conference games against a, you know, a low, 718 00:38:41.539 --> 00:38:43.260 a group of five team. Like you're playing a team 719 00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.639 from the Mac or the Sunbelt. Just take care of business, 720 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:47.519 get off to an early lead. That's one of the 721 00:38:47.579 --> 00:38:50.159 things I've really liked about Utah is, is whether it's 722 00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.050 a Ray, Ray Sean Parker touchdown, the first play from 723 00:38:53.110 --> 00:38:56.480 scrimmage against Iowa state, or just a, a nice 10-play 724 00:38:56.539 --> 00:38:58.880 drive to get a touchdown that first drive of the game, 725 00:38:58.900 --> 00:39:00.960 that's going to be big for Utah, especially against a 726 00:39:00.980 --> 00:39:03.900 Colorado team where the strength of their club is their defense. 727 00:39:04.219 --> 00:39:06.920 Get out, get a couple scores early, put the pressure 728 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.340 on Isaac Wilson and force him to make mistakes. And 729 00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.449 as Utah knows well, Isaac Wilson's going to give you 730 00:39:12.489 --> 00:39:14.159 a few. So you've got to take advantage of that, 731 00:39:14.550 --> 00:39:17.030 get a big lead at halftime, and then get the 732 00:39:17.050 --> 00:39:18.789 backup some experience in the second half. 733 00:39:18.969 --> 00:39:21.989 Yeah, just go take care of business. We talked about, 734 00:39:22.050 --> 00:39:25.110 and if you still want to share... The things that 735 00:39:25.190 --> 00:39:30.670 you need to see about... um, things that you need 736 00:39:30.710 --> 00:39:32.789 to see from Utah in this game, that's how I 737 00:39:32.809 --> 00:39:36.820 framed it yesterday. Look at this as a, as not 738 00:39:36.889 --> 00:39:45.280 a get right game. Cause you're undefeated. There's game perfect 739 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.559 some things kind of game you want to you want 740 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:51.000 feel free to text those in 877-353-0700 if you got 741 00:39:51.019 --> 00:39:53.219 some of those on the mind i don't have anything 742 00:39:53.260 --> 00:39:56.340 more to share about this oc has been always been 743 00:39:56.380 --> 00:39:59.090 really good at like what what could we what more 744 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:03.030 could we say about about utah football even in games 745 00:40:03.070 --> 00:40:05.309 like this i i just don't have more to say 746 00:40:05.369 --> 00:40:08.050 so let's move on to the top 10 matchup that's 747 00:40:08.070 --> 00:40:10.610 happening in our state for the next few minutes here 748 00:40:11.030 --> 00:40:14.190 tyson i know you're a byu fan So you're excited 749 00:40:14.230 --> 00:40:14.690 about this. 750 00:40:14.710 --> 00:40:16.190 That's because I'm old. 751 00:40:16.269 --> 00:40:18.750 I grew up in the early 1990s, and Ty Detmer 752 00:40:18.829 --> 00:40:19.489 influenced me. 753 00:40:20.050 --> 00:40:23.210 End of the Lavelle era there, for sure. Glory days. 754 00:40:23.989 --> 00:40:28.510 Number two, Notre Dame. Visiting number eight, BYU. We talked 755 00:40:28.550 --> 00:40:31.610 about the health for both teams. I wanted to throw 756 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:37.159 just some stats at you to try to answer this question. 757 00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:41.579 What chance... does BYU have without their best player, without 758 00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:45.300 LJ Martin? Isaiah Glasker is another guy expected to play. 759 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.280 He missed last week. That's going to be a big deal. 760 00:40:47.900 --> 00:40:52.949 But they still don't have LJ Martin. Scoring offense. Here's 761 00:40:54.250 --> 00:40:58.170 how these two teams rank in scoring offense. Notre Dame 762

00:40:58.230 --> 00:41:00.190 is number four in the country right now, according to 763 00:41:00.210 --> 00:41:01.130 college football stats. 764 00:41:02.250 --> 00:41:03.260 BYU is 46th. 765 00:41:03.429 --> 00:41:08.630 So Notre Dame's averaging 44 points per game. BYU about 766 00:41:08.630 --> 00:41:12.369 35 points per game. Scoring defense, Notre Dame also fourth 767 00:41:12.389 --> 00:41:16.429 in the country, 11 points a game. BYU eighth in 768 00:41:16.449 --> 00:41:20.840 the country, 13 points a game. So much closer in 769 00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:24.460 that regard of these two teams. Rush offense, BYU number 17, 770 00:41:24.460 --> 00:41:27.000 over 220 yards per game. Notre Dame number 37, just 771 00:41:27.059 --> 00:41:34.280 under 200 yards per game. Passing offense, Notre Dame, 37th 772 00:41:35.059 --> 00:41:39.639 in the country, over 260 yards per game. BYU, 89th 773 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.500 in the country, about 210 yards a game. Rush defense. 774 00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.880 Notre Dame, 3rd in the country, just under 60 yards 775 00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:50.360 a game. BYU, 10th at about 80 yards per game. 776 00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:56.019 So much closer there. Again, defense, they are close here. Pasty, 777 00:41:56.059 --> 00:41:58.500 Notre Dame, 12th, over 150 yards a game. 778 00:41:58.519 --> 00:41:58.719 BYU, 24th. 779 00:42:02.050 --> 00:42:07.769 About 175 yards a game. Total offense, Notre Dame 27th, 450, 780 00:42:07.769 --> 00:42:12.460 about almost 460 yards a game. BYU, just over 430 781 00:42:12.460 --> 00:42:16.400 yards a game at 44th in the country. Total defense, 782 00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.139 Notre Dame is number one in total defense, 214 yards 783 00:42:20.179 --> 00:42:24.070 a game. BYU is seventh, 254 yards a game. So 784 00:42:24.130 --> 00:42:27.289 if you only look at the defensive stats, the main 785 00:42:27.329 --> 00:42:32.190 defensive stats, Tyson, you... a BYU fan, other BYU fans, 786 00:42:32.210 --> 00:42:34.769 you got to feel like BYU is going to be 787 00:42:34.809 --> 00:42:36.210 able to go toe to toe with the Irish. 788 00:42:36.659 --> 00:42:39.360 It's when you look at the offense, Notre Dame's not. 789 00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:43.400 Necessarily outstanding other than scoring offense. When you break it 790 00:42:43.460 --> 00:42:46.820 down to how they get their yards, they're not in 791 00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:51.780 the top 10 in anything, but they're significantly higher in 792 00:42:51.820 --> 00:42:54.280 most of these than, than BYU is in the country. 793 00:42:54.340 --> 00:42:59.170 So that's probably where you get that 10 point line 794 00:42:59.510 --> 00:43:02.349 in favor of Notre Dame. How does that make you feel? 795 00:43:02.409 --> 00:43:02.789 Tyson? 796 00:43:02.809 --> 00:43:05.699 Do you, do you hearing all that, knowing that your 797 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:09.119 best player, LJ Martin is out. Do you feel like 798 00:43:09.179 --> 00:43:11.440 this is a

game that know that BYU can still 799 00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.300 win or at least keep it really close? 800 00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.280 I almost have a feeling the defense is going to 801 00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.679 keep them in the game. You know, you talk about 802 00:43:18.699 --> 00:43:21.000 this being a moment of truth game for BYU, but 803 00:43:21.500 --> 00:43:24.010 it's also a big game for Notre Dame considering who 804 00:43:24.050 --> 00:43:26.369 they've played. You know, Wisconsin gave them a pretty good 805 00:43:26.409 --> 00:43:28.809 test for a half. North Carolina gave them a really 806 00:43:28.849 --> 00:43:30.909 good test for about two and a half quarters. Obviously, 807 00:43:30.949 --> 00:43:33.170 Bill Belichick had a good game plan for them, and 808 00:43:33.190 --> 00:43:35.170 I think there was some weather involved in that game. 809 00:43:35.530 --> 00:43:38.170 The big thing, though, for Notre Dame is their balanced offense. 810 00:43:38.889 --> 00:43:39.250 C.J. 811 00:43:39.289 --> 00:43:41.750 Carr, obviously he can throw the ball about as well 812 00:43:41.789 --> 00:43:45.010 as anybody in the country. They've got a three-headed monster 813 00:43:45.050 --> 00:43:47.199 in the backfield, does Notre Dame. They use three different 814 00:43:47.219 --> 00:43:50.440 running backs about equally. They don't have that one superstar 815 00:43:50.460 --> 00:43:53.059 like they had last year, obviously the first-round pick of 816 00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:54.119 the Arizona Cardinals. 817 00:43:54.670 --> 00:43:56.949 I know Jeremiah Love this year, but C.J. Carr has 818 00:43:56.989 --> 00:43:58.309 looked to be a Heisman candidate. 819 00:43:58.550 --> 00:44:00.610 For BYU, they need to find a way to get 820 00:44:00.650 --> 00:44:03.489 Notre Dame to be one-dimensional. They've got to find a 821 00:44:03.510 --> 00:44:05.349 way to stop the run and force Notre Dame to 822 00:44:05.369 --> 00:44:07.530 beat them with a pass. But even then, BYU is 823 00:44:07.570 --> 00:44:09.829 going to have to stop a really good receiver in 824 00:44:09.849 --> 00:44:14.130 Jordan Faison, who seems to be Notre Dame's top receiving 825 00:44:14.170 --> 00:44:17.130 target and certainly a future pro. So this is certainly 826 00:44:17.150 --> 00:44:18.670 going to be tough for BYU. They're going to have 827 00:44:18.690 --> 00:44:21.820 to find a way to steal a possession somewhere. Kalani 828 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:24.039 Satake likes to be aggressive on fourth down, and he 829 00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:27.880 really has had no success in fourth down situations, but 830 00:44:27.900 --> 00:44:30.659 at some point, whether it's a surprise onside kick, BYU's 831 00:44:30.699 --> 00:44:31.940 going to have to find a way to steal a 832 00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.530 possession and try to win the game that way and 833 00:44:35.730 --> 00:44:38.369 see if they can keep it a 17-10 type of game, 834 00:44:38.389 --> 00:44:41.530 because if it's a lower scoring game, Bear Bachmeier has 835 00:44:41.610 --> 00:44:44.190 proven that he can just take the team down the field, 836 00:44:44.429 --> 00:44:47.150 and he had a pretty good passing game this past 837 00:44:47.190 --> 00:44:50.590 week against Iowa State, so BYU can hang in there, 838 00:44:50.670 --> 00:44:52.969 but LJ Martin is the difference maker. And if you're 839 00:44:52.989 --> 00:44:56.050 a Utah fan, that would definitely be the equivalent of 840 00:44:56.170 --> 00:44:57.590 Utah losing way Sean Parker. 841 00:44:57.690 --> 00:44:58.130 Absolutely. 842 00:44:58.309 --> 00:45:00.909 That would certainly hurt Utah. And it certainly has hurt BYU. 843 00:45:01.170 --> 00:45:02.849 It absolutely, it absolutely would. 844 00:45:04.070 --> 00:45:08.610 I it's these kinds of reasons, obviously a school like 845 00:45:08.650 --> 00:45:11.380 Notre Dame, that's, that's number two in the country. That's 846 00:45:11.389 --> 00:45:15.380 been in the top five all season was preseason top five. 847 00:45:16.219 --> 00:45:21.510 They obviously have, a much more top end talent than 848 00:45:21.550 --> 00:45:24.809 BYU as well, but that's talent doesn't win games, right? 849 00:45:24.889 --> 00:45:27.230 That it helps you win games, but talent alone does 850 00:45:27.250 --> 00:45:29.289 not win games. I mean, Utah fans know this about 851 00:45:29.570 --> 00:45:32.570 playing with USC in the same conference as USC and 852 00:45:32.590 --> 00:45:36.989 beating them most years in the PAC 12, right? But 853 00:45:37.050 --> 00:45:41.039 the talent, there's a gap there just because Notre Dame's 854 00:45:41.099 --> 00:45:46.400 Notre Dame, Marcus Freeman's tenure so far, especially has they've 855 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:50.659 gotten them in the national championship conversation every year. Once again, 856 00:45:52.550 --> 00:45:55.510 there's also the injury to LJ Martin, but also you, 857 00:45:56.449 --> 00:45:59.130 even with a healthy LJ Martin, there's only one of 858 00:45:59.170 --> 00:46:02.309 these games that these stats I just read off factor 859 00:46:02.349 --> 00:46:04.989 into that. They did not have LJ Martin when you're 860 00:46:05.010 --> 00:46:09.659 talking about BYU and yet Notre Dame has the advantage 861 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:12.579 in all of them, except for rushing yards per game, 862 00:46:12.860 --> 00:46:14.900 which A little bit of a surprise with Notre Dame 863 00:46:14.940 --> 00:46:17.980 because they just had the best running back in the nation, right? 864 00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.480 But they also just lost the best running back in 865 00:46:20.500 --> 00:46:25.699 the nation last year. Takes a minute to replace a 866 00:46:25.739 --> 00:46:28.500 guy like Jeremiah Love, for sure. But you kind of 867 00:46:28.539 --> 00:46:33.059 expected as big a deal, as much as the running 868 00:46:33.099 --> 00:46:35.340 game is factored into their offense the last few years 869 00:46:35.409 --> 00:46:38.949

under Marcus Freeman, you expected it to be higher. You 870 00:46:39.250 --> 00:46:41.150 expected it to be higher than 37th in the country 871 00:46:41.210 --> 00:46:46.380 so far in that one. but they're better than BYU 872 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:50.820 in every other category there. That's why the line is 873 00:46:50.860 --> 00:46:53.320 where it is probably, in addition to the fact that 874 00:46:53.380 --> 00:46:56.639 Notre Dame just gets the benefit of the doubt, that 875 00:46:56.840 --> 00:46:58.239 they're one of those programs that get the benefit of 876 00:46:58.260 --> 00:47:02.150 the doubt against just about anybody that BYU just doesn't 877 00:47:02.510 --> 00:47:07.030 at this point. I don't think, I would venture to say, 878 00:47:08.809 --> 00:47:12.869 feel pretty good about BYU playing about Notre Dame not covering, 879 00:47:12.909 --> 00:47:17.190 about BYU making this a one-score game, but I don't 880 00:47:17.250 --> 00:47:19.510 feel that great about the Cougars coming out on top. 881 00:47:19.949 --> 00:47:24.539 If LJ were playing, I'd feel much better. BYU's at home. 882 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.079 They're also a top-ten team. Their defense is just as 883 00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:31.619 stout as Notre Dame's is, and like you said, Tyson 884 00:47:31.659 --> 00:47:34.659 is going to keep them in the game. I think 885 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:36.940 you nailed it, though. They're going to need the defense 886 00:47:37.099 --> 00:47:38.380 probably to do more than keep. 887 00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:38.780 Them in the game. 888 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.429 They're going to need them to come up with some 889 00:47:40.469 --> 00:47:43.260 turnovers and kind of turn the game probably to make 890 00:47:43.300 --> 00:47:46.239 this happen. We'll see if they can do that. I, 891 00:47:46.570 --> 00:47:49.630 right now I'm feeling like Notre Dame comes out on 892 00:47:49.690 --> 00:47:52.989 top on this. I'm, I'm hoping BYU does though, because 893 00:47:53.969 --> 00:47:57.789 pull for the local teams, right? But also this, that'd 894 00:47:57.909 --> 00:48:02.530 help Utah in the, in the holy war matchup. How, 895 00:48:02.869 --> 00:48:05.929 if BYU is undefeated, they're probably a top five team. 896 00:48:06.190 --> 00:48:09.530 Utah goes and beats a top five team and stays undefeated. If, 897 00:48:09.809 --> 00:48:12.309 if they're able to beat, Houston next week, get it 898 00:48:12.349 --> 00:48:14.880 done against Colorado tomorrow night. 899 00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.800 Beat Cincinnati, obviously, the week after that. After Houston. 900 00:48:20.579 --> 00:48:21.539 Helps Utah's resume. 901 00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:22.099 It helps it. 902 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.239 I mean, you're all of a sudden Utah's a national 903 00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.159 championship contender if you beat a top five BYU team. 904 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:32.309 If BYU's between 10 and 15 with a loss, maybe 905 00:48:32.349 --> 00:48:34.989 a lopsided loss to Notre Dame, which I don't think 906 00:48:35.030 --> 00:48:35.329 is going. 907 00:48:35.250 --> 00:48:35.969 To happen, but could. 908 00:48:35.989 --> 00:48:38.389 According to the, you look at the betting line, it 909 00:48:38.449 --> 00:48:43.210 could end up being a lopsided loss. That's not quite 910 00:48:43.250 --> 00:48:45.449 as good of a win for Utah if they beat 911 00:48:45.469 --> 00:48:47.670 them in the Holy War at Rice Eccles Stadium. 912 00:48:48.070 --> 00:48:51.789 And with Big 12 non-conference matchups when you're facing big teams, 913 00:48:52.030 --> 00:48:54.610 it's almost like the Big 12's image and reputation is 914 00:48:54.690 --> 00:48:56.949 on the line in part in these games. For BYU, 915 00:48:56.989 --> 00:48:59.440 I think that you look at those two losses where 916 00:48:59.460 --> 00:49:01.980 they just got overwhelmed by Texas Tech. That's probably the 917 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:04.360 worst case scenario for BYU is that they just get 918 00:49:04.460 --> 00:49:08.320 overwhelmed by speed and power and athleticism from Notre Dame, 919 00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.809 but You know, BYU probably is going to hang in there. 920 00:49:10.829 --> 00:49:13.340 Three key factors, though, for BYU. They're going to have 921 00:49:13.380 --> 00:49:16.320 to find a way to do well on third down, 922 00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.969 both offensively and defensively. If they're going to take those calculations. 923 00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:21.699 risks on fourth down, they're going to have to be 924 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.099 successful with that, and they're going to have to find 925 00:49:24.139 --> 00:49:25.920 a way to slow down Notre Dame's running game. If 926 00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:28.300 Notre Dame can run the ball, BYU's probably got no 927 00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:30.119 chance to win. Absolutely. 928 00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:33.989 So there you go. That's 5.30 again tomorrow on ABC. 929 00:49:34.269 --> 00:49:39.800 Game day live from BYU's campus in Provo. starting at 930 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:45.929 7 a.m. Check that out tomorrow. Broadcast on ESPN, of course, 931 00:49:45.969 --> 00:49:49.690 for game day. And we'll have a Sunday night football 932 00:49:49.750 --> 00:49:53.789 preview coming up next. We've got Packers-Cowboys. This was thought 933 00:49:53.869 --> 00:49:57.190 to be a Micah Parsons revenge game at first, or 934 00:49:57.250 --> 00:49:59.269 that was the hope to be it, that it will be. 935 00:49:59.369 --> 00:50:02.389 Micah Parsons is not going to play, though, but still. 936 00:50:03.250 --> 00:50:06.409 Two of the most storied franchises in the NFL going 937 00:50:06.489 --> 00:50:09.030 at it on Sunday night. We'll give you a Sunday 938 00:50:09.050 --> 00:50:12.340 night football preview. And then at noon, we chat with 939 00:50:12.380 --> 00:50:16.039 Dan Sorensen of Ute Zone on a Ute Zone Friday, 940 00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.699 not a Ute Zone Wednesday. You're on a football

Friday 941 00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.920 on Sean O'Connell Show. James Peterson filling in. Utah's number 942 00:50:21.940 --> 00:50:23.739 one sports talk. Your home of the Utes. Your home 943 00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:30.289 for football. ESPN 700. This is the Sean O'Connell Show. 944 00:50:30.449 --> 00:50:33.409 Your home of the best inside of your Utes. Let's 945 00:50:33.449 --> 00:50:36.889 get back to OC from the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of 946 00:50:37.219 --> 00:50:43.900 ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. All right. 947 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:49.820 Sunday night football preview NFL before we... Welcome in Dan 948 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.719 Sorensen of Ute Zone for a Ute Zone Friday. We 949 00:50:52.739 --> 00:50:54.800 weren't able to do Ute Zone Wednesday this week because 950 00:50:54.840 --> 00:50:59.440 Devin Danpeer had to do edition with Devin live at 951 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.000 1130 on Wednesday, which is usually when we do when 952 00:51:03.039 --> 00:51:06.219 we catch up with Sammy Mora or Dan Sorensen. So 953 00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:08.429 we're going to do a Ute Zone Friday in a 954 00:51:08.489 --> 00:51:11.809 few minutes here. But first, a Sunday night football preview. 955 00:51:11.849 --> 00:51:14.369 This is brought to you by Southern Steer Butcher and 956 00:51:14.469 --> 00:51:21.139 Murdoch Ford Santa Quinn. Southern Steer Butcher. Do a tailgate 957 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:22.980 for your watch party at home this week since the 958 00:51:23.860 --> 00:51:28.010 Utes games in Boulder. Head out to Southern Steer Butcher 959 00:51:28.050 --> 00:51:30.969 in Saratoga Springs. 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It's your neighborhood 965 00:51:54.429 --> 00:52:00.769 butcher shop, old-fashioned neighborhood butcher shop, but with a modern feel, 966 00:52:00.789 --> 00:52:04.369 a modern twist to it, out at Southern Steer Butcher 967 00:52:04.550 --> 00:52:06.300 in Saratoga Springs. 968 00:52:06.429 --> 00:52:07.820 Sunday night football preview. 969 00:52:07.900 --> 00:52:14.539 It's Cowboys at the Packers, a classic NFL rivalry matchup, 970 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.869 two-storied programs, of course, programs, franchises. Talking college football for 971 00:52:19.889 --> 00:52:22.730 the whole first hour. Got to get the right terminology here. 972 00:52:24.230 --> 00:52:28.849 Two-storied franchises, Lambeau Field. It's at 620 on NBC on 973 00:52:28.929 --> 00:52:33.989 Sunday night. Packers are 3-2. Cowboys are 2-3. The Cowboys, 974 00:52:34.949 --> 00:52:39.130 if you recall, they're coming off one of the most head-scratching, 975 00:52:39.510 --> 00:52:43.309 unbelievable losses of the NFL season so far, Tyson, as 976 00:52:43.349 --> 00:52:47.570 they lost to the previously winless Tampa Bay Buccaneers. last 977 00:52:47.789 --> 00:52:53.000 Thursday night, 24 to 16. So they need to get 978 00:52:53.099 --> 00:52:57.199 right against the Packers on Sunday night football. This is 979 00:52:57.260 --> 00:53:00.139 not going to be a Micah Parsons revenge game. The 980 00:53:00.179 --> 00:53:05.210 new Packer, you remember, out, it was an ACL tear 981 00:53:05.250 --> 00:53:06.329 at the end of last season. 982 00:53:06.349 --> 00:53:07.369 I believe so. 983 00:53:07.570 --> 00:53:10.030 Or middle of last season. He's still out with that. 984 00:53:10.130 --> 00:53:13.289 He did say, earlier this week that if it was 985 00:53:13.329 --> 00:53:15.949 the super bowl, he'd be playing. So that means that 986 00:53:15.989 --> 00:53:18.190 he's got to be close to being able to return. 987 00:53:18.409 --> 00:53:20.469 But the fact that this is a regular season game, 988 00:53:20.510 --> 00:53:22.110 he's not going to, he and the team are not 989 00:53:22.130 --> 00:53:25.449 going to push, push it out and get him risk 990 00:53:25.610 --> 00:53:30.130 further injury, re-aggravation, anything like that by coming, coming to 991 00:53:30.170 --> 00:53:33.730 play maybe too soon. So maybe next week, maybe the 992 00:53:33.769 --> 00:53:36.739 week after we see Micah Parsons return, but not against 993 00:53:36.780 --> 00:53:37.449 his former team. 994 00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:39.010 Dallas Cowboys. 995 00:53:39.030 --> 00:53:41.139 So that's a bummer. That would have been a great 996 00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:43.480 thing to watch here. Packers are three and two. Like 997 00:53:43.539 --> 00:53:46.219 I said, they've been, I mean, what a three and 998 00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.539 two record would suggest Tyson. They've been kind of hit 999 00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:51.900 and miss this year. Jordan love has underachieved for the 1000 00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:58.079 most part, but they're over 500 because they absolutely smashed 1001 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.639 their biggest rival, the Chicago bears in a revenge game 1002 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.119 for them. They went Owen three against the bears last season, 1003 00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:07.440 including in that playoff game in the wildcard round where 1004 00:54:07.460 --> 00:54:11.159 the bears came back to beat them. Um, they took 1005 00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:16.619 it to them. He had 367 yards, two touchdowns, no picks. 1006 00:54:16.699 --> 00:54:19.639 He went 25 for 31. So that was quite the 1007 00:54:19.739 --> 00:54:23.710 get right game for Jordan love. They win 31 to seven. 1008 00:54:23.750 --> 00:54:26.449 So the Packers riding in on a high Cowboys riding in. 1009 00:54:26.429 --> 00:54:26.949 On a low. 1010 00:54:27.150 --> 00:54:28.090 How do you feel about this

one? 1011 00:54:28.110 --> 00:54:28.369 Tyson? 1012 00:54:28.500 --> 00:54:30.739 Well, the Packers looked outstanding against the Bears, and it 1013 00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:32.780 was certainly surprising because you thought the Bears were going 1014 00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:36.639 to win one for Mike Dick, who passed away last week. 1015 00:54:36.659 --> 00:54:38.679 With the Packers, it almost seems like they get off 1016 00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.019 to these slow starts for a few games of the season. 1017 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.260 For whatever reason, Jordan Love always seems to be a 1018 00:54:43.300 --> 00:54:46.090 quarterback that's better in the second half of seasons than 1019 00:54:46.130 --> 00:54:49.070 he is in September. It's like a typical Green Bay quarterback. 1020 00:54:49.090 --> 00:54:52.090 When the temperature drops, Jordan Love's production just all of 1021 00:54:52.130 --> 00:54:54.889 a sudden elevates, and that was certainly something the Packers 1022 00:54:54.929 --> 00:54:56.809 needed as they had gotten off to a really slow 1023 00:54:56.829 --> 00:54:59.880 start the first four games. And as for the Cowboys, 1024 00:55:01.380 --> 00:55:02.840 I thought their defense was going to be good. I 1025 00:55:02.860 --> 00:55:04.780 think everybody thought that this was going to be a 1026 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:08.980 much improved Cowboys defense. It hasn't quite materialized as of yet, 1027 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.500 and I think they're just going to have to hope 1028 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.429 to make some progress. It almost seems like with a 1029 00:55:15.469 --> 00:55:19.070 few more losses, Brian Schottenheimer, the Cowboys head coach, will 1030 00:55:19.090 --> 00:55:20.730 be on the hot seat. So this is certainly going 1031 00:55:20.750 --> 00:55:21.670 to be an interesting game. 1032 00:55:21.829 --> 00:55:26.389 Players only meeting, I believe, they had this between their losses. 1033 00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.610 against Tampa and this game, too, sometime in there. 1034 00:55:30.619 --> 00:55:32.889 It's never a good thing. But when you lose the 1035 00:55:32.929 --> 00:55:35.670 Tampa Bay, especially with as bad as Tampa Bay has been, 1036 00:55:35.710 --> 00:55:37.170 you have to find a way to do something. 1037 00:55:37.210 --> 00:55:40.550 So that usually isn't a good thing when you have 1038 00:55:40.570 --> 00:55:42.849 a players only meeting, especially this early in the season. 1039 00:55:43.210 --> 00:55:47.059 So things not looking good for the Cowboys, things feeling 1040 00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:50.639 much better for the Packers after smashing their rival, the 1041 00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:55.519 Bears on Sunday. Jordan Love again, almost perfect. 25 of 31. 1042 00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:58.340 You throw it over 30 times and you complete it 1043 00:55:58.340 --> 00:55:58.599 25 times. 1044 00:55:58.639 --> 00:55:59.380 That's incredible. 1045 00:55:59.699 --> 00:56:02.059 Those receivers are making

some amazing catches. That was a 1046 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.000 game that we got locally, and so I watched a 1047 00:56:04.019 --> 00:56:07.119 lot of that game. Between Christian Watson and some of 1048 00:56:07.139 --> 00:56:09.539 the other receivers, they're making some outstanding catches. 1049 00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:13.030 Yeah, so maybe the Packers keep a good thing going here, 1050 00:56:13.260 --> 00:56:15.550 keep the good vibes going here at home against the 1051 00:56:15.650 --> 00:56:17.909 Cowboys in a bit of a rivalry game just because 1052 00:56:17.949 --> 00:56:20.920 they're two of the most storied franchises. going back a 1053 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:24.860 long time in the league. So that's your Sunday night 1054 00:56:24.900 --> 00:56:30.050 football preview. Again, 620 kickoff Sunday on NBC. And it's 1055 00:56:30.070 --> 00:56:33.829 brought to you by Southern Steer Butcher and Murdoch Ford 1056 00:56:34.030 --> 00:56:37.610 Santa Quinn. Murdoch Ford Santa Quinn, by the way, you're 1057 00:56:37.630 --> 00:56:40.250 driving on I-15. Look to your right as you get 1058 00:56:40.289 --> 00:56:43.739 by the old red barn there. You see a big 1059 00:56:43.820 --> 00:56:47.559 Ford dealership. That's the Murdoch Ford Santa Quinn. It's an 1060 00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:48.539 absolutely huge. 1061 00:56:50.150 --> 00:56:54.429 Building a lot of selection there. Head over there for 1062 00:56:54.909 --> 00:56:56.269 a new vehicle. If you're in the market for a 1063 00:56:56.289 --> 00:56:59.349 new vehicle at Murdoch Ford Santa Quinn. 1064 00:56:59.469 --> 00:57:01.010 I might have to get out there after the show. 1065 00:57:01.090 --> 00:57:03.429 One bit of NFL news. Looks like Lamar Jackson's been 1066 00:57:03.469 --> 00:57:05.349 ruled out once again for this week. So the former 1067 00:57:05.429 --> 00:57:06.769 Ute Tyler Huntley will get a start. 1068 00:57:06.809 --> 00:57:09.050 Tyler Huntley going to start again. Thank you for bringing 1069 00:57:09.070 --> 00:57:10.929 that to our attention. Maybe we can talk more about 1070 00:57:10.969 --> 00:57:13.239 that in the Daily Dump. But next we have Dan 1071 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:18.429 Sorensen from Ute Zone. to talk more about this Utah-Colorado 1072 00:57:18.469 --> 00:57:22.320 game coming up tomorrow night for a Ute Zone Friday 1073 00:57:22.380 --> 00:57:25.059 with Dan Sorensen. That's next in about three minutes here 1074 00:57:25.099 --> 00:57:27.380 on the Sean O'Connell Show. James Peterson filling in for 1075 00:57:27.460 --> 00:57:29.940 OC on Utah's number one sports talk in your home 1076 00:57:29.980 --> 00:57:31.400 of the Utes, ESPN 700, 92.1 FM. 1077 00:57:31.420 --> 00:57:32.900 You're listening to the. 1078 00:57:38.099 --> 00:57:43.519 Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch Hyundai Studio of ESPN 1079 00:57:43.519 --> 00:57:44.340 700 and 92.1 FM. 1080 00:57:56.260 --> 00:58:00.760 Starting hour two of the Sean O'Connell show in perfect 1081 00:58:00.820

--> 00:58:03.280 Sean O'Connell show fashion, OC style. 1082 00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:06.380 We're over ten minutes late, but that's okay. 1083 00:58:06.619 --> 00:58:07.119 That's okay. 1084 00:58:08.139 --> 00:58:12.190 We're going to reset here with Dan Sorensen from Ute Zone. 1085 00:58:12.630 --> 00:58:16.530 No Ute Zone Wednesday this week. Devin Dampier, addition with Devin, 1086 00:58:16.610 --> 00:58:20.340 bumped our guy Dan Sorensen to a Ute Zone Friday 1087 00:58:20.420 --> 00:58:22.699 on this football Friday. Dan, I hope you don't take 1088 00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:23.340 that personally. 1089 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:24.679 Welcome to the show. 1090 00:58:25.900 --> 00:58:29.880 Thank you. And, and, and, and how could I, I mean, no, no, 1091 00:58:30.219 --> 00:58:33.539 we don't have 50,000 people in a stadium, you know, 1092 00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:37.400 lining up to watch me pontificate about the youth. So 1093 00:58:37.980 --> 00:58:40.099 I suppose I can feed my time to Devin. 1094 00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:44.119 I think we did that to Sammy earlier this year too. We, 1095 00:58:44.389 --> 00:58:46.789 but it was for Morgan Scali. So you guys, the 1096 00:58:46.889 --> 00:58:48.730 only reason we bump you guys is for the head 1097 00:58:48.769 --> 00:58:49.989 coach or the starting quarterback. 1098 00:58:50.030 --> 00:58:50.429 How about that? 1099 00:58:51.340 --> 00:58:55.199 You know, I'll take that all day long. 1100 00:58:55.619 --> 00:59:00.329 Utes Insider, Utes Own segments, part of those Utes Insider 1101 00:59:00.369 --> 00:59:03.030 segments brought to you by Mountain Home Services. Get a 1102 00:59:03.050 --> 00:59:04.630 new furnace installed for $ 29. 99 or as low as $ 29 1103 00:59:04.590 --> 00:59:11.380 a month with approved credit financing. terms and conditions apply, 1104 00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:16.280 and it's a limited time offer. That's Mountain Home Services. Dan, 1105 00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:19.579 I already said earlier in the show, I already admitted, 1106 00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:23.099 I just have nothing more to say about this game, 1107 00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:26.389 Utah and Colorado. But we'll come up with some things 1108 00:59:26.429 --> 00:59:29.250 to say here, or I'll ask you the question so 1109 00:59:29.289 --> 00:59:30.170 you say the things. 1110 00:59:30.230 --> 00:59:30.769 How about that? 1111 00:59:31.889 --> 00:59:35.139 It just feels like it's that much of a lopsided 1112 00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:38.900 matchup where it's like, just take care of business, Utah. 1113 00:59:38.940 --> 00:59:39.539 How do you see this? 1114 00:59:40.780 --> 00:59:41.119 I mean, yeah. 1115 00:59:41.659 --> 00:59:45.760 And on paper, absolutely. It's a lopsided matchup and, and, 1116 00:59:45.860 --> 00:59:48.570 and it's, it's really funny. This is, this is one 1117 00:59:48.590 --> 00:59:52.050 of those weird games, right? It's, it's double digit point spread. 1118 00:59:52.710 --> 00:59:56.670 There are some weird undercurrents in the sense of some 1119 00:59:56.710 --> 01:00:00.690 of the things that, that, that are the, the, the game, 1120 01:00:00.909 --> 01:00:03.309 the game behind the game type of stories, right? So 1121 01:00:03.650 --> 01:00:06.530 everybody of course is talking about Isaac Wilson and, and, 1122 01:00:06.909 --> 01:00:11.159 you know, facing off against his old team and, And look, 1123 01:00:12.780 --> 01:00:17.250 Isaac's an interesting guy in the sense that Scali talked 1124 01:00:17.289 --> 01:00:20.610 about the fact that he's got arm talent. We saw 1125 01:00:20.889 --> 01:00:24.590 last week he put up, what, 290 yards on Texas Tech. Now, 1126 01:00:24.630 --> 01:00:27.409 he did throw three interceptions, and they were pretty bad. 1127 01:00:27.469 --> 01:00:30.010 Two of those were an ended double or triple coverage, 1128 01:00:30.070 --> 01:00:33.960 and one of them was... the guy was standing flat 1129 01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.340 footed in the end zone when he caught it. Like, 1130 01:00:36.579 --> 01:00:39.159 I just don't understand how that wouldn't even happen. I 1131 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.369 don't think I've ever seen a zero yard return pick 1132 01:00:43.409 --> 01:00:46.269 six before, at least not that I can remember. And 1133 01:00:46.429 --> 01:00:51.000 so the three interceptions were bad, but he did also 1134 01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.880 make some really good throws, some throws on the run. 1135 01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:57.639 He showed some escape ability. And so he's got it 1136 01:00:57.699 --> 01:01:01.179 in him. So is the question is, can, can Isaac Wilson, 1137 01:01:01.699 --> 01:01:05.099 can he motivate himself and get up enough to play 1138 01:01:05.139 --> 01:01:07.920 the kind of game where, where he can keep his 1139 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.820 team in it? Now, if he's the Isaac Wilson that 1140 01:01:10.860 --> 01:01:13.420 played for the Utes for two years, the answer to 1141 01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:15.340 that is is an emphatic. 1142 01:01:15.449 --> 01:01:15.769 No. 1143 01:01:16.670 --> 01:01:20.150 But once again, it's, he's, he's not on the Utes. 1144 01:01:20.210 --> 01:01:22.780 It's a new roster. It's a new situation. He's going 1145 01:01:22.820 --> 01:01:25.800 to be motivated. And so really when you look at 1146 01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:29.849 this game overall with things like that, it's if the 1147 01:01:29.909 --> 01:01:32.090 youth take care of business and do what they're supposed 1148 01:01:32.110 --> 01:01:34.530 to do, they should win handily. But there, there are 1149 01:01:34.570 --> 01:01:38.349 those X factors, Isaac being one of them, this Colorado defense. 1150 01:01:38.710 --> 01:01:41.300 And I, and I've watched the last couple of Colorado games. 1151 01:01:41.659 --> 01:01:45.179 They're better than the point output that they've given up. 1152 01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:48.840 They are very tough at times. They can get after 1153 01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:54.219

the passer. They can make life tough on an opposing quarterback. And, 1154 01:01:54.449 --> 01:01:58.900 and so they're, this is a, this is a better 1155 01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:03.239 Colorado team than their record dictates. It's a better Colorado 1156 01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.340 team than even the on paper. When you look at the, the, 1157 01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:11.650 the compare the eyeball test to the, to the what's 1158 01:02:11.730 --> 01:02:16.789 on paper than that dictates. And so Utah still needs 1159 01:02:16.849 --> 01:02:18.929 to be ready for this game. If they walk into 1160 01:02:18.969 --> 01:02:22.030 that stadium and they expect to just walk away with 1161 01:02:22.090 --> 01:02:25.489 a victory because it's Colorado and because Isaac didn't look 1162 01:02:25.510 --> 01:02:29.489 very good as a youth, That is a recipe for danger. 1163 01:02:29.670 --> 01:02:33.030 But if this team does what they should do, if 1164 01:02:33.090 --> 01:02:35.860 they live the culture that they've been talking about all 1165 01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:38.599 year long, if they go in and they do their 1166 01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:43.480 job and handle their responsibility, that 15 or 14 or 1167 01:02:43.539 --> 01:02:48.300 whatever the point spread is these days, that's not going 1168 01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:50.139 to be an issue. They're going to beat it once again. 1169 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:51.440 Yeah. 1170 01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:54.800 And obviously that's the hope and that's the expectation for 1171 01:02:54.820 --> 01:02:59.949 this Utah team talking with Devin Dampier this week, OC 1172 01:02:59.989 --> 01:03:04.539 talking with him. It sounds like that's the attitude. And 1173 01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:06.900 one of the reasons why Utah has had the early 1174 01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.900 success that they've had is that's the attitude that Devin 1175 01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:13.400 brings into every one of these games. Respect for the opponent. 1176 01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.920 Doesn't matter who it is. Doesn't matter if you expect 1177 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:21.030 to beat them by three, four scores, two, three, four scores. 1178 01:03:21.510 --> 01:03:24.070 You still respect them as if you, feel like you 1179 01:03:24.110 --> 01:03:25.989 don't have a chance to win this game. It's that 1180 01:03:26.050 --> 01:03:29.829 kind of professionalism that Devin in particular has felt like 1181 01:03:29.869 --> 01:03:34.579 he's brought into every game. And that should give you 1182 01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:36.079 a lot of hope that this is not going to 1183 01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:38.820 be one of those trap games with Houston coming up 1184 01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.489 next week, who's probably going to be ranked at Rice 1185 01:03:41.530 --> 01:03:42.130 Eccles Stadium. 1186 01:03:43.409 --> 01:03:46.030 Well, and that's just it. And look, I'm not surprised 1187 01:03:46.070 --> 01:03:48.920 in the least bit that that's the kind of attitude 1188 01:03:48.980 --> 01:03:52.539 that Devin would take. He comes from, he was highly 1189 01:03:52.659 --> 01:03:56.699 under-recruited based on his college performance as a high schooler. 1190 01:03:56.739 --> 01:04:00.449 He played for a, you know, a mid tier Mexico, 1191 01:04:00.550 --> 01:04:03.630 New Mexico team that, you know, didn't they, that New 1192 01:04:03.670 --> 01:04:06.550 Mexico team didn't go undefeated. They got beat by a 1193 01:04:06.570 --> 01:04:10.010 bunch of squads. But, and, and he, so he's seen 1194 01:04:10.369 --> 01:04:12.469 the fact that even on a team that may not 1195 01:04:12.510 --> 01:04:15.599 have a winning record there, you know, himself included, there 1196 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:18.880 are guys that can play, you know, it's, it's, it's 1197 01:04:18.980 --> 01:04:23.119 hard to get to an FBS football program. You've got 1198 01:04:23.139 --> 01:04:24.860 to have a lot of talent, even if you're the 1199 01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.460 worst guy on the worst team, You've got to have 1200 01:04:27.500 --> 01:04:31.650 a lot of talent. And so that commands and deserves respect. 1201 01:04:31.730 --> 01:04:35.050 And so I love that Devin is very much taking 1202 01:04:35.090 --> 01:04:38.469 that mindset. He, of all people, should know and will know. 1203 01:04:38.489 --> 01:04:42.219 And it's just that. Like, you can't have any letdowns. 1204 01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:46.420 And we've seen it over the years how many– over, 1205 01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.139 you know, Kyle Whittingham, who was the winningest coach in 1206 01:04:49.179 --> 01:04:51.860 the history of the program. How many times a season 1207 01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:55.570 would he have that? What the heck game where the 1208 01:04:55.610 --> 01:04:58.230 team would just come out flat against somebody that they 1209 01:04:58.250 --> 01:05:02.969 should absolutely just pound into the ground. And they would 1210 01:05:03.030 --> 01:05:05.769 either win a narrow one if they were lucky or 1211 01:05:05.809 --> 01:05:09.090 they would lose and have that just weird loss. And 1212 01:05:09.130 --> 01:05:12.090 it happened pretty frequently. And so it's one of the, 1213 01:05:12.250 --> 01:05:16.679 the tests of Morgan Scali as a coach is, can 1214 01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.699 he avoid those? Can he make sure that his guys 1215 01:05:20.179 --> 01:05:23.820 are up mentally and ready for the task, regardless of 1216 01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.199 who the opponent is, don't play to the level of 1217 01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:29.050 your opponent and go out and take care of business 1218 01:05:29.070 --> 01:05:32.050 when you're supposed to, like you said, next week, there's 1219 01:05:32.070 --> 01:05:34.969 a lot of, there's a lot at stake. in that 1220 01:05:35.110 --> 01:05:37.750 Utah Houston game, but Utah has got to beat Colorado 1221 01:05:37.769 --> 01:05:40.610 before they can have anything at stake in that game. 1222 01:05:40.670 --> 01:05:44.969 And so

it's, it's the attitude and it's, it's what 1223 01:05:45.030 --> 01:05:47.889 needs to happen. And it's that respect factor. There are 1224 01:05:47.909 --> 01:05:49.210 a bunch of, you know, there are a couple of 1225 01:05:49.309 --> 01:05:52.250 ex-youths on that Colorado roster. There are a bunch of 1226 01:05:52.269 --> 01:05:55.030 guys that Utah recruited and, and guys that they would 1227 01:05:55.070 --> 01:05:58.880 have taken happily. The Williams receiver was committed to the 1228 01:05:58.900 --> 01:06:01.340 youth at one point, and he's probably the best player 1229 01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:04.500 on their team. And the font and that kid was 1230 01:06:04.579 --> 01:06:08.320 a kid that Utah wanted the safety. And so, so yeah, there, there, 1231 01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:10.909 there are guys on the roster that they would want 1232 01:06:10.989 --> 01:06:13.409 and there are guys on the roster that deserve respect. And, 1233 01:06:13.789 --> 01:06:15.590 and so, but if they, if they go out and they, 1234 01:06:15.989 --> 01:06:18.349 they own that 10 square yards around them or the 1235 01:06:18.349 --> 01:06:21.250 10 square feet around them or the, whatever it is, 1236 01:06:21.309 --> 01:06:24.880 the phrase that they use in the program, they're going 1237 01:06:24.900 --> 01:06:27.480 to be just fine and they should win this game handily. 1238 01:06:28.369 --> 01:06:32.130 So assuming that they do, assuming they win by multiple 1239 01:06:32.190 --> 01:06:34.300 scores like we expect them to, maybe in three or 1240 01:06:34.340 --> 01:06:39.940 four scores, what else, Dan Sorensen, I asked this question yesterday, 1241 01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:44.019 what else do you feel that Utah needs to do 1242 01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:47.480 besides winning the game, taking care of business, and winning 1243 01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.780 big like we expect them to? What are you looking 1244 01:06:50.820 --> 01:06:54.050 for specifically to say, not necessarily get right, because they're undefeated, 1245 01:06:54.070 --> 01:06:56.769 there's nothing to get right in that regard, but maybe perfect? 1246 01:06:57.659 --> 01:07:00.440 in a game against Colorado that you expect to win 1247 01:07:00.460 --> 01:07:00.800 big in? 1248 01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.159 Yeah, look, if you look at some of the things 1249 01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.239 that maybe they struggled with last week, I'd love to 1250 01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:10.409 see some improvement on that. Can you get home to 1251 01:07:10.429 --> 01:07:16.250 the quarterback? They had no sacks against Marshall for Kansas. 1252 01:07:16.889 --> 01:07:21.170 And look, Marshall, a really elusive guy. Isaac Wilson has 1253 01:07:21.250 --> 01:07:23.610 his moments where he can be elusive. He's not quite 1254 01:07:23.670 --> 01:07:27.630 as fluid an athlete as as Marshall was, but being 1255 01:07:27.710 --> 01:07:30.780 able to get home and, and, and get the sack. And, 1256 01:07:30.900 --> 01:07:33.320 and there's a lot of talk about the defensive ends 1257 01:07:33.460 --> 01:07:35.599 and whether they've gotten the sack or not. And, and, 1258 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:38.989 and look, that's, that's something that should be improved. I'd 1259 01:07:39.070 --> 01:07:40.630 love to see one of those edge guys be able 1260 01:07:40.670 --> 01:07:43.550 to get, get home. Finally, you can't have a, a 1261 01:07:43.610 --> 01:07:47.349 season where your edge rushers aren't, aren't getting home and 1262 01:07:47.510 --> 01:07:50.679 getting those sacks, but getting the sack, completing the play 1263 01:07:50.699 --> 01:07:54.539 in the backfield is one thing being better at the 50, 1264 01:07:54.539 --> 01:07:58.360 50 balls. Once again, Marshall, he was so good at 1265 01:07:59.139 --> 01:08:01.840 escaping the Utah pass rush, and then he'd put it 1266 01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:04.619 up there and see, yes, there were times where he 1267 01:08:04.659 --> 01:08:08.389 dropped dimes, where only his receiver could get it. And frankly, 1268 01:08:08.409 --> 01:08:10.769 we size of Wilson do that last week against Texas 1269 01:08:10.789 --> 01:08:14.690 tech too. So he's capable But a lot of the 1270 01:08:14.710 --> 01:08:18.329 50-50 balls that Utah lost out on last week, can 1271 01:08:18.729 --> 01:08:22.430 the defensive back come down with it? Can they knock 1272 01:08:22.489 --> 01:08:25.600 it down? Can they make that big play when they 1273 01:08:25.649 --> 01:08:29.260 need to? Now, last week they did. Can they make 1274 01:08:29.300 --> 01:08:32.699 it earlier in the drive so that the opponent's not 1275 01:08:32.739 --> 01:08:36.239 driving all the way down the field until you get 1276 01:08:36.779 --> 01:08:40.060 the fourth down stop in the red zone or you 1277 01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:43.479 get the– the, the turnover in the, in the, in 1278 01:08:43.510 --> 01:08:45.890 the red zone, that kind of thing. So those are 1279 01:08:45.909 --> 01:08:47.770 the things that I'd like to see, especially on the 1280 01:08:47.810 --> 01:08:50.569 defensive side of the ball on the offensive side of 1281 01:08:50.590 --> 01:08:53.750 the ball would love to see this team continue to, 1282 01:08:54.130 --> 01:08:57.590 to show, to, to be efficient in the way that 1283 01:08:57.630 --> 01:08:59.930 they're moving the ball. I love the balanced attack. I 1284 01:09:00.060 --> 01:09:03.520 love what way Sean's bringing to the table. If you, 1285 01:09:03.699 --> 01:09:07.010 Utah does need to establish the run, Colorado is going 1286 01:09:07.029 --> 01:09:09.010 to sell out to stop the run. If the youth 1287 01:09:09.050 --> 01:09:11.670 are still able to run on this defense, if they're 1288 01:09:11.710 --> 01:09:14.220 able to loosen them up over the top and and 1289 01:09:14.270 --> 01:09:17.500 make those plays when they're there, those kinds of things 1290 01:09:17.539 --> 01:09:20.720 are important. And then the third thing I would say is, 1291 01:09:21.279

--> 01:09:24.199 is there have been in the last three games times 1292 01:09:24.220 --> 01:09:27.119 where there's been mental walls, where it's been a driver 1293 01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:30.300 to or a full quarter, but would love to see 1294 01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:34.399 the team stay sharp until the game is well in hand. 1295 01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:36.199 You know, it's one thing if they're up 30 in 1296 01:09:36.220 --> 01:09:39.760 the fourth quarter and, and things get a little bit sloppy, but, 1297 01:09:40.220 --> 01:09:45.649 but No mental lapses in terms of the penalties that 1298 01:09:45.689 --> 01:09:50.539 kill drives, the penalties that extend drives, the being out 1299 01:09:50.579 --> 01:09:55.760 of position, the not lining up. If Colorado goes tempo, 1300 01:09:56.140 --> 01:09:59.600 the not getting set in time so that you're half 1301 01:09:59.619 --> 01:10:02.640 a step out. And that kind of a thing is 1302 01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:07.279 a big deal. It's the difference between those 50-50 balls 1303 01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.930 that Kansas was completing. If you're half a step off... 1304 01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:12.779 you know, if, if you're not half a step off, you're, 1305 01:10:12.819 --> 01:10:15.789 you're going to stop that completion. And so those are, 1306 01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:19.229 there are a lot of little things that this team 1307 01:10:19.270 --> 01:10:21.550 can work on. And it's, and that's a great thing 1308 01:10:21.590 --> 01:10:25.149 in my opinion, that look, they're, they're undefeated. They're five 1309 01:10:25.189 --> 01:10:28.630 and Oh, they've beaten every team by double digits. So 1310 01:10:28.670 --> 01:10:33.130 they've dominated every opponent they've had. And There's still things 1311 01:10:33.229 --> 01:10:35.250 that need to be worked on. There's still things that 1312 01:10:35.289 --> 01:10:37.310 need to be improved upon. And as long as they 1313 01:10:37.329 --> 01:10:40.229 can stay sharp and continue to do those things and 1314 01:10:40.270 --> 01:10:42.470 get better at those things, especially the ones I just 1315 01:10:42.550 --> 01:10:45.760 rattled off, that's what you want to see out of 1316 01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:48.699 this team. And so how sharp can you get when 1317 01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.579 you get ready for that gauntlet? Because Houston at home, 1318 01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:55.819 Cincinnati on the road, BYU at home, that is a 1319 01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.420 tough stretch that this team is going to need to 1320 01:10:59.460 --> 01:11:00.039 be ready for. 1321 01:11:00.060 --> 01:11:01.659 And Arizona after that. 1322 01:11:02.420 --> 01:11:05.720 It doesn't let up after the Holy War, for sure. 1323 01:11:06.619 --> 01:11:09.579 You mentioned at the end there just not having those 1324 01:11:09.659 --> 01:11:14.020 offensive lulls, not having those mental mistakes, those stretches where 1325 01:11:14.060 --> 01:11:15.909 they go three and out a bunch of times or 1326 01:11:15.970 --> 01:11:18.630 have a turnover and some three and outs. It feels 1327 01:11:18.649 --> 01:11:20.510 like they've had at least one of those every game 1328 01:11:20.529 --> 01:11:23.210 that's almost been a quarter long or maybe just over 1329 01:11:23.250 --> 01:11:26.489 a quarter. It felt like it was the second quarter 1330 01:11:27.029 --> 01:11:29.420 last week against Kansas. The other games of this season, 1331 01:11:29.460 --> 01:11:32.100 it felt like it was mostly the third quarter's And 1332 01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:35.090 that's the thing that I'm watching closely. And then I 1333 01:11:35.630 --> 01:11:39.489 also love what you said about just finishing plays on defense, 1334 01:11:39.550 --> 01:11:43.369 whether it's finishing pass rush and getting home and taking 1335 01:11:43.390 --> 01:11:45.949 down the quarterback, getting some sacks from the defensive ends 1336 01:11:45.989 --> 01:11:50.369 or whoever. In my opinion, obviously we expect defensive ends 1337 01:11:50.430 --> 01:11:52.510 to be dominant in sack numbers, but as long as 1338 01:11:52.529 --> 01:11:54.689 you're getting to the quarterback, it doesn't really matter if 1339 01:11:54.729 --> 01:11:56.170 it's a defensive end or someone else. 1340 01:11:56.210 --> 01:11:58.430 Just get there and finish the job. 1341 01:11:59.409 --> 01:11:59.850 But also. 1342 01:12:00.979 --> 01:12:03.810 I love that you mentioned, like, finishing plays in the 1343 01:12:03.859 --> 01:12:10.430 secondary too, turning some of these PBUs into interceptions or 1344 01:12:11.010 --> 01:12:15.810 these passes that are just barely completed, turn those into PBUs. 1345 01:12:16.470 --> 01:12:20.890 It feels like we're nitpicking, but it feels like the 1346 01:12:20.930 --> 01:12:27.229 defense has kind of just been just below the standard of, like, 1347 01:12:27.260 --> 01:12:30.779 we're going to make huge plays and set our offense up. in, 1348 01:12:31.020 --> 01:12:34.199 in great positions, or we're going to score ourselves on defense. 1349 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:37.500 It feels like they're just behind that standard to start 1350 01:12:37.539 --> 01:12:40.079 this season. This feels like a great game to maybe 1351 01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:41.460 get back up to that standard. 1352 01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:42.800 Yeah. 1353 01:12:42.819 --> 01:12:45.159 And that's exactly what you want to see. And well, 1354 01:12:45.180 --> 01:12:47.880 and it's funny because, and we are nitpicking, this is 1355 01:12:47.939 --> 01:12:51.359 the number one defense scoring defense in the big 12. And, and, 1356 01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:54.159 and when you look at the things that actually matter yet, yes, 1357 01:12:54.220 --> 01:12:58.090 they gave up 333 passing yards to the quarterback last week. And, and, 1358 01:12:58.619 --> 01:13:01.270 And at the same time, they held the, the, the, 1359 01:13:01.409 --> 01:13:04.670 the top rate, the top rushing team in the big 12, 1360 01:13:04.670 -->

01:13:06.970 the 60 yards looked at the top rushing defense in 1361 01:13:07.010 --> 01:13:10.399 the conference. They they're at, they're giving up 10 points 1362 01:13:10.460 --> 01:13:13.460 a game. They're once again, a lead in third down 1363 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:16.520 conversion defense. And those are the things that matter points 1364 01:13:16.579 --> 01:13:19.779 per game, the third down conversion defense, the red zone 1365 01:13:19.819 --> 01:13:23.510 scoring defense. Like those are the stats that really, really matter. And, 1366 01:13:23.590 --> 01:13:26.270 and the teams that are the highest at that tend 1367 01:13:26.289 --> 01:13:28.310 to be the teams with the best records. And so 1368 01:13:28.909 --> 01:13:32.300 they're getting to some great results and they're doing it 1369 01:13:32.500 --> 01:13:38.409 while still needing reasons to, to improve to your point. 1370 01:13:38.470 --> 01:13:42.109 And so, yeah, it's, As long as we can continue 1371 01:13:42.130 --> 01:13:44.630 to see that continuous improvement, as long as we can 1372 01:13:44.670 --> 01:13:49.010 continue to see these guys buying in and showing up and, 1373 01:13:49.170 --> 01:13:51.550 and going out and making plays, this is going to 1374 01:13:51.590 --> 01:13:54.930 be a really dang good football team all year long. And, and, 1375 01:13:55.329 --> 01:13:58.909 and once again, it's, it starts with Colorado again, like 1376 01:13:58.989 --> 01:14:01.539 everything that they've done to this point kind of doesn't 1377 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:07.060 count each week is its own little, little, separate entity. 1378 01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:09.560 And so they need to go out and they need 1379 01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.960 to prove themselves once again. And as long as they 1380 01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.840 have that attitude, as long as they continue doing that, 1381 01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:18.829 this is a team that's going to go places this season. Yeah. 1382 01:14:19.149 --> 01:14:23.510 And undefeated so far, we expect to remain them to 1383 01:14:23.590 --> 01:14:26.670 remain undefeated and have a dominant win tomorrow night in Boulder. 1384 01:14:26.810 --> 01:14:28.890 Before I let you go, Dan, we're talking with Dan 1385 01:14:28.909 --> 01:14:32.800 Sorenson from mute zone. Our Utes Insider segment is brought 1386 01:14:32.819 --> 01:14:35.359 to you by Mountain Home Services here on the Sean 1387 01:14:35.380 --> 01:14:38.199 O'Connell Show. James Peterson filling in. Before I let you go, 1388 01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:41.869 got a top ten matchup in the state tomorrow. BYU 1389 01:14:41.930 --> 01:14:48.350 welcoming Notre Dame to Lavelle Edwards Stadium. How do you 1390 01:14:48.369 --> 01:14:51.949 see this one playing out? BYU seems to be getting healthier, 1391 01:14:51.989 --> 01:14:55.420 but still no LJ Martin. I don't know that Notre 1392 01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:58.420 Dame should be a double-digit favorite, but I also, looking 1393 01:14:58.460 -->

01:15:02.760 at the stats... Weighing the fact that BYU's best player 1394 01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:07.159 is not playing, I can see why these sportsbooks are 1395 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:13.260 making Notre Dame a 10.5-point favorite. But BYU's at home. 1396 01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.720 We know how tough they are at home. We know 1397 01:15:16.779 --> 01:15:18.779 how good that defense is. They can keep them in 1398 01:15:18.819 --> 01:15:22.439 games and make plays for them to make this a 1399 01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:24.479 much closer game if not pull off this upset. Do 1400 01:15:24.500 --> 01:15:27.159 you think BYU has a legitimate chance to pull off 1401 01:15:27.180 --> 01:15:27.579 the upset? 1402 01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:32.680 I mean, of course they do. Look, we've learned time 1403 01:15:32.739 --> 01:15:37.060 and time again that every time some Ute fan decides 1404 01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:41.720 to declare the demise of BYU, they're like cockroaches in 1405 01:15:41.739 --> 01:15:47.159 the nuclear war. You cannot count against them. They find 1406 01:15:47.180 --> 01:15:51.979 a way to survive. They find a way to survive. to, 1407 01:15:52.689 --> 01:15:55.130 to make something happen. So of course they can come 1408 01:15:55.210 --> 01:15:57.789 out and, and, and, and win this game and, and, 1409 01:15:58.250 --> 01:16:00.890 and make Notre Dame look silly. And, and, and if 1410 01:16:00.909 --> 01:16:02.720 they do, you know, that's a, it's great for the 1411 01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.640 big 12 conference. I, it's not great for Utah fans 1412 01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:09.119 or their egos, especially the ones that, that want BYU 1413 01:16:09.140 --> 01:16:12.720 to lose. And so I, and I totally understand that anybody. 1414 01:16:12.380 --> 01:16:15.130 In that camp, that's the best thing about rivalries, right? 1415 01:16:16.060 --> 01:16:19.840 That it absolutely is. So, but, but yeah, this is 1416 01:16:19.859 --> 01:16:23.210 a look, I don't count out Connie's talkie ever. I 1417 01:16:23.250 --> 01:16:26.869 don't count out a discount. What he can do. Do 1418 01:16:26.909 --> 01:16:28.529 I expect Notre Dame to win this game? 1419 01:16:28.529 --> 01:16:28.569 100%. 1420 01:16:28.569 --> 01:16:28.640 Yes. 1421 01:16:28.890 --> 01:16:34.050 And I, and even cover on this one, but And 1422 01:16:34.069 --> 01:16:37.260 to your point, like L.J. Martin's not in. Let's see 1423 01:16:37.300 --> 01:16:40.220 what happens. Let's see if they continue, if BYU continues 1424 01:16:40.260 --> 01:16:44.449 to stay healthy. Let's see whether the depth of Notre 1425 01:16:44.470 --> 01:16:50.029 Dame makes a difference. But yeah, I... An upset wouldn't 1426 01:16:50.109 --> 01:16:53.090 shock me. I don't expect it, but it wouldn't shock me. 1427 01:16:54.890 --> 01:16:58.270 I've learned a long time ago, you just don't count 1428 01:16:58.350 --> 01:17:00.449 out BYU. If you think they're going to go away, 1429 01:17:00.470 --> 01:17:03.689 they're never going to go away. It's a fact of life. 1430 01:17:03.930 --> 01:17:08.670 I'm 50 years old. They've never gone away. I don't 1431 01:17:08.729 --> 01:17:11.770 expect it to happen now, but I do expect Notre 1432 01:17:11.789 --> 01:17:13.170 Dame to come out on top. 1433 01:17:13.229 --> 01:17:14.909 Even in that nine-game win streak. 1434 01:17:15.689 --> 01:17:18.729 recent win streak in the rivalry matchup that Utah had 1435 01:17:18.760 --> 01:17:23.640 in BYU's independence era, Utah's Pac-12 era. I mean, even 1436 01:17:23.680 --> 01:17:26.800 then when you, when it was on paper, Utah's dominating 1437 01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:29.199 this team, those are one point games. Those are one 1438 01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:31.810 score games that Utah was winning most of those years. 1439 01:17:32.869 --> 01:17:37.550 You know, few exceptions there. And so even when you 1440 01:17:37.569 --> 01:17:41.520 look at it from that regard, Utah, The cockroach survival 1441 01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:44.960 analogy you brought up is perfect for that because you're like, okay, 1442 01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:49.659 every year almost every Utes fan in that win streak 1443 01:17:50.270 --> 01:17:53.199 was like, oh, we got this. We're going to dominate BYU. 1444 01:17:53.229 --> 01:17:57.689 And then BYU brings the doubt, right? They get to 1445 01:17:58.250 --> 01:18:00.409 last play of the game. They have a chance to 1446 01:18:00.449 --> 01:18:03.189 win the game. So, yeah, you cannot count out this team, 1447 01:18:03.250 --> 01:18:05.109 especially under Kawane Satake for sure. 1448 01:18:05.850 --> 01:18:09.569 No, he's got them bought in. They're playing good football. 1449 01:18:09.609 --> 01:18:11.590 They're going to be a good football team the whole year. 1450 01:18:11.689 --> 01:18:16.569 And we'll see what happens with what they do with 1451 01:18:16.609 --> 01:18:18.550 the Irish. But like I said, I still expect the 1452 01:18:18.630 --> 01:18:22.420 Irish to win. And if they don't, if BYU comes 1453 01:18:22.479 --> 01:18:26.119 out with the upset, then fingers crossed that they're both 1454 01:18:26.180 --> 01:18:28.640 undefeated by the time that BYU comes into Salt Lake 1455 01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:31.159 City because it's going to be the hottest game in 1456 01:18:31.439 --> 01:18:32.819 all of college football that week. 1457 01:18:33.060 --> 01:18:37.579 And it's... There's... No other way to think about it, Dan, 1458 01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:43.149 a win for BYU helps Utah, assuming Utah can stay 1459 01:18:43.189 --> 01:18:46.470 undefeated and beat BYU in that rivalry game, in that 1460 01:18:46.529 --> 01:18:47.229 Holy War game. 1461 01:18:47.250 --> 01:18:49.270 It just helps Utah's resume. 1462 01:18:49.850 --> 01:18:54.039 Makes them from a playoff contender to a potential national 1463 01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:56.109 title contender, the way that they're looked at. 1464 01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:59.060 It would be a top five BYU team if

that's 1465 01:18:59.100 --> 01:18:59.439 the case. 1466 01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.140 So if you're a Utah fan, you don't have to 1467 01:19:02.180 --> 01:19:04.119 root for BYU. But just know in the back of 1468 01:19:04.140 --> 01:19:06.979 your mind, if BYU wins, it's a good thing for Utah. 1469 01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:08.439 So it's not the worst thing in the world if 1470 01:19:09.060 --> 01:19:12.930 they pull off this upset. Dan, thank you so much 1471 01:19:13.189 --> 01:19:16.390 for taking the time, man, for coming on, bringing the insight. 1472 01:19:16.869 --> 01:19:20.010 We'll talk with you and Sammy again next week. 1473 01:19:20.989 --> 01:19:23.130 Thanks for having me on. Have a great weekend, and 1474 01:19:23.390 --> 01:19:25.029 have a good game this weekend. Yeah. 1475 01:19:25.310 --> 01:19:30.220 That's Dan Sorensen, Ute Zone publisher on a Ute Zone Friday. Typically, 1476 01:19:30.260 --> 01:19:33.539 we do Ute Zone Wednesdays. Devin Dampier ended up having 1477 01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.060 to be live on a Wednesday this week. So bumped 1478 01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:39.869 our guy, Dan Sorensen. Happy that he had the time 1479 01:19:39.909 --> 01:19:44.189 to come on just now on a Friday. Daily Dump 1480 01:19:44.390 --> 01:19:48.649 is next. We've got an ALCS game tonight. We'll react 1481 01:19:48.710 --> 01:19:51.449 a little bit more to the Brewers getting the World Series, 1482 01:19:51.489 --> 01:19:56.220 sweeping the Dodgers. There's a lawsuit, an NCAA lawsuit against 1483 01:19:56.300 --> 01:19:59.800 a governor out there. You've been hearing that in Tyson's update. 1484 01:20:00.420 --> 01:20:04.420 PFL fights tonight. And much more to get to in 1485 01:20:04.439 --> 01:20:06.579 the Daily Dump. Brought to you by Valley Plumbing, Heating, 1486 01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:09.220 and Cooling. That's next on the Sean O'Connell Show. James 1487 01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:11.699 Peterson filling in on a Friday on Utah's number one 1488 01:20:11.739 --> 01:20:13.289 sports talk and your home of the Utes. 1489 01:20:13.609 --> 01:20:21.579 ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. Feeling out of the loop? 1490 01:20:21.979 --> 01:20:24.699 Let's catch up on today's biggest headlines in the Daily 1491 01:20:24.779 --> 01:20:27.649 News Dump, where we flush out the biggest stories of 1492 01:20:27.689 --> 01:20:30.970 the day on the Sean O'Connell Show and Utah's number 1493 01:20:31.109 --> 01:20:35.869 one sports talk, ESPN 792.1 FM. Brought to you by 1494 01:20:36.069 --> 01:20:38.949 Valley Plumbing, Heating, and Cooling. Just look for the truck 1495 01:20:39.029 --> 01:20:39.689 with the duck. 1496 01:20:40.069 --> 01:20:45.619 All right, Daily Dump brought to you by Valley Plumbing, Heating, 1497 01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:48.180 and Cooling. Look for the truck with the duck if 1498 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:52.479 you have any Plumbing needs, they even do excavation, any 1499 01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:57.600 kind of where they got to dig into the ground

1500 01:20:57.680 --> 01:21:00.800 outside to fix your pipes that go outside the house 1501 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:04.210 a little bit. They can do advanced jobs like that 1502 01:21:04.270 --> 01:21:07.310 as well. And also HVAC, heating and cooling, part of 1503 01:21:07.350 --> 01:21:10.390 the name now as well, the truck with the duck. 1504 01:21:11.050 --> 01:21:12.149 Appreciate their support. 1505 01:21:13.090 --> 01:21:17.829 Game four of the ALCS tonight in Cleveland. The Guardians 1506 01:21:17.869 --> 01:21:22.670 hosting the Rays. Guardians lead the series two games to one. 1507 01:21:22.689 --> 01:21:25.689 We got coverage starting at 530 on your home of 1508 01:21:25.710 --> 01:21:30.600 the MLB playoffs. That's right here on ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 1509 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:34.220 The Brewers already in the World Series. We talked about 1510 01:21:34.260 --> 01:21:36.699 this at the top of the show. Tyson and I did. 1511 01:21:37.279 --> 01:21:41.359 They sweep the Dodgers. This is their first National League pennant. 1512 01:21:41.729 --> 01:21:44.210 Because the last time they were in the World Series 1513 01:21:44.250 --> 01:21:47.710 was 1982. They were an American League team, the Milwaukee Brewers. 1514 01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:49.659 Was that Robin Yount? 1515 01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:54.239 That was Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Cecil Cooper, Ben Ogilvie, 1516 01:21:54.300 --> 01:21:55.619 Gorman Thomas and company. 1517 01:21:55.859 --> 01:21:58.560 Got it. I woke up going, Robin Yount, that was 1518 01:21:58.619 --> 01:21:59.619 a Brewers guy, right? 1519 01:21:59.920 --> 01:22:02.869 Long time Brewer, over 3,000 hits. Oddly enough, he made 1520 01:22:02.909 --> 01:22:05.289 the Hall of Fame, but he was only a three-time All-Star. 1521 01:22:05.470 --> 01:22:05.729 Really? 1522 01:22:05.750 --> 01:22:07.289 So he must have been a much better second half 1523 01:22:07.329 --> 01:22:08.170 of the season player. 1524 01:22:08.270 --> 01:22:08.510 Yeah. 1525 01:22:09.010 --> 01:22:11.350 Easily made the Hall of Fame at over 3,000 hits, 1526 01:22:11.449 --> 01:22:13.069 but was only a three-time All-Star. 1527 01:22:13.229 --> 01:22:14.850 I did not know that about Robin. 1528 01:22:15.829 --> 01:22:21.029 Back then, especially, and it's really been up until the last, what, 10, 1529 01:22:21.029 --> 01:22:24.880 15 years. And the 3,000 hit mark is still one 1530 01:22:24.939 --> 01:22:27.960 in the 500 homers mark, which we may not see 1531 01:22:28.020 --> 01:22:30.199 for a long time. 300 wins, the pitcher we may 1532 01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:33.720 not see ever again. Those were the counting stats that 1533 01:22:33.739 --> 01:22:35.960 said if you get to that mark, you're a Hall 1534 01:22:35.979 --> 01:22:36.939 of Famer automatically. 1535 01:22:37.380 --> 01:22:37.680 And so. 1536 01:22:38.409 --> 01:22:41.170 Only a three-time All-Star, but he got to 3,000 hits. 1537 01:22:41.229 --> 01:22:43.449 That might have been what it was. And he was 1538 01:22:43.510 --> 01:22:44.770 a two-time MVP. 1539 01:22:45.050 --> 01:22:47.390 One of the times he was an MVP was a 1540 01:22:47.449 --> 01:22:49.689 center fielder, and the other time he was a shortstop. 1541 01:22:50.029 --> 01:22:50.430 Got it. 1542 01:22:50.449 --> 01:22:56.069 So a versatile guy, two-time MVP. Another two-time MVP still 1543 01:22:56.449 --> 01:22:58.300 looking to get in the Hall of Fame. Let's get Dale. 1544 01:22:58.100 --> 01:22:58.720 Murphy in the Hall. 1545 01:22:59.789 --> 01:23:02.760 Absolutely. His peak five or six years were as good 1546 01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:03.439 as anybody's. 1547 01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:04.479 Absolutely. 1548 01:23:04.939 --> 01:23:08.119 But anyway, Brewers, they sweep the Dodgers. They're in the 1549 01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.279 World Series. They're waiting on the winner of the Guardians 1550 01:23:11.659 --> 01:23:15.310 and the Rays. We talked about this a little bit yesterday, 1551 01:23:15.319 --> 01:23:21.050 and I brought it up to OC too, Tyson. Obviously, 1552 01:23:21.489 --> 01:23:24.810 Brewers' best record in the majors all year long. They 1553 01:23:24.829 --> 01:23:27.560 finished a couple games ahead of the Dodgers in that regard. 1554 01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:32.300 They're going to have home field advantage in the World Series. 1555 01:23:32.859 --> 01:23:35.340 They should be favored to win this series, not just 1556 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:37.159 because they're the first team in, but because they've been 1557 01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:40.680 the best team in baseball. They don't have the star power, 1558 01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:43.899 but none of these teams left have huge star power. 1559 01:23:43.939 --> 01:23:46.779 Jose Ramirez is probably the biggest star left in these 1560 01:23:46.819 --> 01:23:51.140 playoffs playing for Cleveland. Maybe not the best player left, 1561 01:23:51.180 --> 01:23:54.760 but he's the biggest name recognition, if not the best player. 1562 01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:57.890 So it's not going to be star power that wins 1563 01:23:57.899 --> 01:24:02.579 this World Series. It's going to be things like making contact, 1564 01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:07.359 getting on base, not striking out, not popping out, moving 1565 01:24:07.420 --> 01:24:11.750 runners along, hitting the timely home run, the timely hits, 1566 01:24:11.909 --> 01:24:16.210 getting the timely RBIs, having great starting pitching, and probably 1567 01:24:16.250 --> 01:24:20.229 more realistically with the way that today's game is, particularly 1568 01:24:20.250 --> 01:24:24.069 in the playoffs, having good shut a shutdown bullpen. That's 1569 01:24:24.109 --> 01:24:26.489 the Brewers MO, but it's also the Rays and the 1570 01:24:26.550 --> 01:24:29.819 guardians MO. So it's almost going to be like two 1571 01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:32.239 teams looking in the mirror, whoever ends up winning out 1572 01:24:32.260 --> 01:24:34.279 of the American league. And I think

that will make 1573 01:24:34.319 --> 01:24:35.340 for a great world series. 1574 01:24:35.420 --> 01:24:36.680 And if we were to come up with a list 1575 01:24:36.739 --> 01:24:40.000 of the top 30 managers and all of baseball, top 1576 01:24:40.020 --> 01:24:42.699 three might be the three teams still remaining. Pat Murphy's 1577 01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:45.819 been unbelievable with the Brewers in his third season. Steven 1578 01:24:45.859 --> 01:24:49.050 Vogt has just made Cleveland a winner almost from day 1579 01:24:49.210 --> 01:24:51.510 one when he joined them two or three years ago. 1580 01:24:52.130 --> 01:24:54.560 And Kevin Cash, who I think is the best manager 1581 01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.399 in all of baseball in Tampa. So the top three 1582 01:24:57.439 --> 01:24:59.939 managers are still going on. So you've got managers that 1583 01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:01.760 really know what they're doing, and they get the most 1584 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:02.500 out of their teams. 1585 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:05.460 Yeah, and Dave Roberts is probably in the top four, 1586 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:10.930 if you make it four. And that was the LCS 1587 01:25:10.970 --> 01:25:14.590 teams we had this year. So that's a really good 1588 01:25:14.649 --> 01:25:16.550 part of what's going on here and a really good 1589 01:25:16.590 --> 01:25:19.250 part of the storyline of whoever makes it out of 1590 01:25:19.270 --> 01:25:21.510 the American League and into the World Series. 1591 01:25:22.699 --> 01:25:27.159 So there you go. Game four, Guardians Rays tonight, ALCS. 1592 01:25:27.520 --> 01:25:30.680 Winner of that series gets, we know now, the Milwaukee 1593 01:25:30.699 --> 01:25:34.430 Brewers in the World Series. There's going to be at 1594 01:25:34.449 --> 01:25:38.090 least tonight's game and one more game in that series. 1595 01:25:38.109 --> 01:25:42.130 And we won't have game five because that's going to 1596 01:25:42.170 --> 01:25:48.149 be going on during Utah's game tomorrow night against Colorado. 1597 01:25:48.750 --> 01:25:50.010 So we'll have Utah football. 1598 01:25:50.050 --> 01:25:52.449 But if it gets to game six and game seven, 1599 01:25:52.970 --> 01:25:56.890 you'll hear that on Monday and Tuesday night, respectively, here 1600 01:25:56.989 --> 01:26:01.109 on your home of Major League Baseball and the MLB playoffs, 1601 01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:05.539 ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. This story you put in 1602 01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:11.760 your update, Tyson, a fascinating story in Ohio. The NCAA 1603 01:26:12.899 --> 01:26:17.630 is suing. The governor of Ohio, Mike DeWine, because he 1604 01:26:17.710 --> 01:26:23.050 recently signed an executive order allowing players from the 2022 1605 01:26:23.050 --> 01:26:25.670 freshman class this year would have been their fifth year 1606 01:26:26.250 --> 01:26:29.550 if they would have been granted a fifth year of eligibility. 1607 01:26:30.130 --> 01:26:33.489 He signed an executive order that says, okay, these guys 1608 01:26:33.529 --> 01:26:37.329 get a fifth year. I'm the governor and so it 1609 01:26:37.350 --> 01:26:39.590 shall be written, so it shall be done. But of course, 1610 01:26:39.970 --> 01:26:42.449 since it's an Ohio executive order and it's not a 1611 01:26:43.029 --> 01:26:47.470 federal executive order by by president Trump, it's only applying 1612 01:26:47.550 --> 01:26:51.750 to the state colleges and universities in Ohio. So you're 1613 01:26:51.770 --> 01:26:54.890 talking about Ohio state, the Ohio Bobcats and whatever other 1614 01:26:55.010 --> 01:26:59.710 public universities they have in, in Ohio. He's saying, okay, 1615 01:27:00.229 --> 01:27:03.640 you guys are eligible to play in this, in, uh, 1616 01:27:04.449 --> 01:27:08.399 in for those schools. If you're from the 2022 freshman class, 1617 01:27:08.439 --> 01:27:10.460 you will get a fifth year eligibility because I'm the 1618 01:27:10.500 --> 01:27:11.960 governor and I get to say that you will. 1619 01:27:12.800 --> 01:27:13.989 Now, this is happening. 1620 01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:17.199 All that's fine, except for this is happening when the 1621 01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:24.359 Ohio Court of Appeals already denied a preliminary injunction, undid 1622 01:27:24.380 --> 01:27:27.760 a preliminary injunction for these this class of players. 1623 01:27:29.260 --> 01:27:30.600 Like weeks ago. 1624 01:27:31.079 --> 01:27:31.300 Right. 1625 01:27:31.420 --> 01:27:33.220 So the governor is saying, you know what? I don't 1626 01:27:33.279 --> 01:27:36.260 care what the court says. we're going to, I'm going 1627 01:27:36.270 --> 01:27:39.100 to circumvent this and just make it law myself with 1628 01:27:39.140 --> 01:27:43.659 an executive order. So the NCAA Charlie Baker is like, sorry, 1629 01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:47.159 you don't, we don't believe you get to do that. 1630 01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:49.649 And so that's where this lawsuit's coming in. 1631 01:27:50.140 --> 01:27:50.340 Yeah. 1632 01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:53.500 Ohio, Ohio gets five years. Everybody else gets four. That 1633 01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:54.079 seems fair. 1634 01:27:54.460 --> 01:27:54.560 Yeah. 1635 01:27:54.579 --> 01:27:56.220 We're just going to create rules. That just shows you 1636 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:58.399 how little power the NCAA has these days. 1637 01:27:58.439 --> 01:27:58.939 Yeah. 1638 01:27:58.979 --> 01:28:01.029 You know, any state can just come up with any rule. 1639 01:28:01.050 --> 01:28:02.989 It feels like, you know, Texas techs trying to come 1640 01:28:03.029 --> 01:28:04.939 up with a bunch of rules and, You know, the 1641 01:28:05.300 --> 01:28:08.479 SEC teams, I mean, LSU's trying to get G League 1642 01:28:08.560 --> 01:28:11.359 players eligible for the basketball season and get guys who 1643 01:28:11.380 --> 01:28:14.220 are in NFL training camps eligible. It's almost like the 1644 01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:16.449 Wild West and then some with the NCAA. 1645

01:28:16.930 --> 01:28:17.569 It really is. 1646 01:28:17.829 --> 01:28:22.989 I hope that the Ohio courts or the federal judges, 1647 01:28:23.909 --> 01:28:28.180 wherever this case is going to be heard, I hope 1648 01:28:28.189 --> 01:28:30.600 that they side with the NCAA in this case because 1649 01:28:30.619 --> 01:28:35.439 they're it re this is a whole new thing the 1650 01:28:35.739 --> 01:28:42.539 courts have said we're not siding with these players We've 1651 01:28:42.619 --> 01:28:46.520 seen courts side with these players before. In my opinion, 1652 01:28:46.579 --> 01:28:50.779 too often recently. We have not seen courts decide that 1653 01:28:50.800 --> 01:28:52.779 we're going to rule against them and then a governor say, 1654 01:28:52.850 --> 01:28:54.970 I'm going to take things into my own hands. 1655 01:28:54.970 --> 01:28:56.409 After the courts have already ruled. 1656 01:28:56.789 --> 01:28:59.010 This is a whole new thing So I hope that 1657 01:28:59.050 --> 01:29:01.529 the NCAA is able to prevail in this. But to 1658 01:29:01.550 --> 01:29:06.670 your point, Tyson, there's no real reason to believe that 1659 01:29:06.710 --> 01:29:10.289 that's realistic. The NCAA is taking so many losses lately. 1660 01:29:10.789 --> 01:29:14.149 They got a win in this one from the courts. 1661 01:29:14.590 --> 01:29:16.710 Now they have to go back to the courts to 1662 01:29:16.909 --> 01:29:20.439 undo this executive order. We'll see what happens. The lawsuit 1663 01:29:20.500 --> 01:29:24.380 just filed today. Real quick, just for our guy OC 1664 01:29:24.420 --> 01:29:27.420 who's in Chicago calling PFL fights, want to make sure 1665 01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:30.739 you know about what he's doing. You get a chance 1666 01:29:30.760 --> 01:29:33.319 to see him and watch him call some MMA fights 1667 01:29:33.399 --> 01:29:38.359 for the PFL four o'clock today is when the preliminary 1668 01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:43.079 card starts. I believe that parts on ESPN plus. And 1669 01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:45.960 then I think around, I saw around nine o'clock Eastern 1670 01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.960 is when the main card will be or nine o'clock 1671 01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:52.020 mountain time, excuse me, 11 Eastern is when the main 1672 01:29:52.090 --> 01:29:54.789 card is going to take place on ESPN too. 1673 01:29:54.989 --> 01:29:57.909 So no OC here on the radio, but you will have. 1674 01:29:57.850 --> 01:30:00.859 A chance to, Catch him on ESPN Plus and ESPN2 1675 01:30:00.899 --> 01:30:04.460 calling PFL fights from Chicago. So be sure to tune 1676 01:30:04.500 --> 01:30:13.770 into that. This one's really interesting. There's a really interesting 1677 01:30:13.810 --> 01:30:15.630 story in the NBA. We'll get to that later. We've 1678 01:30:15.649 --> 01:30:17.789 got to get to Lee Sterling. But real quick, Tyson, 1679 01:30:17.810 --> 01:30:21.569 I want to get your insight on a huge hockey story. 1680 01:30:22.130 --> 01:30:25.449 Brady Kachuk, brother of Matthew Kachuk, star in his own right, 1681 01:30:25.510 --> 01:30:29.069 Brady is. Now they're teammates in Florida, of course. He 1682 01:30:29.229 --> 01:30:32.050 became just the third player in NHL history to have 1683 01:30:32.189 --> 01:30:36.890 back-to-back natural hat tricks. Six goals in two games, Tyson. 1684 01:30:37.630 --> 01:30:41.750 He joins Hall of Famer Pavel Burr and current Flyers 1685 01:30:41.850 --> 01:30:47.220 forward Noel Achari, if I'm saying that right. He also 1686 01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:50.479 bested his Hall of Fame father, Keith, who at the 1687 01:30:50.520 --> 01:30:53.979 most had five goals in a two-game span, and the 1688 01:30:54.020 --> 01:30:59.170 most Matthew, his teammate and brother, who's a future Hall 1689 01:30:59.189 --> 01:31:01.569 of Famer in his own right, the most he's had 1690 01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:04.239 in a two-game span is four. So he's now the 1691 01:31:04.300 --> 01:31:10.140 leader in the Kachuk household, right? But tell me about 1692 01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:13.840 the difference between a hat trick and a natural hat trick, 1693 01:31:13.979 --> 01:31:16.029 and just put this in perspective, just how big a 1694 01:31:16.050 --> 01:31:19.289 deal it is, back-to-back hat tricks and natural hat tricks 1695 01:31:19.350 --> 01:31:20.390 at that for Brady Kachuk. 1696 01:31:20.590 --> 01:31:23.569 Well, a natural hat trick occurs when a player scores 1697 01:31:23.590 --> 01:31:26.069 three consecutive goals in a game without any other player 1698 01:31:26.109 --> 01:31:28.920 from either team scoring. So you basically score three goals 1699 01:31:29.020 --> 01:31:31.880 in a row as opposed to scoring like the first goal, 1700 01:31:32.020 --> 01:31:34.619 third goal, and fifth goal for your team. Whereas that'd 1701 01:31:34.659 --> 01:31:36.920 just be a hat trick, whereas in his case, he 1702 01:31:36.939 --> 01:31:39.020 just gets three in a row for the natural hat trick. 1703 01:31:39.039 --> 01:31:40.199 And so it's a little bit difficult. 1704 01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:42.859 Even harder to do speaks to why there's only two 1705 01:31:42.880 --> 01:31:44.479 other guys that have done it in two games. 1706 01:31:44.539 --> 01:31:46.720 Yeah, Pavel Bure was about as fast as anybody with 1707 01:31:46.739 --> 01:31:48.939 the Vancouver Canucks. I mean, he was about as fast 1708 01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:51.760 as I think any NHL player I've ever seen. It's 1709 01:31:51.779 --> 01:31:54.890 interesting to see Brady Kachuk and Matthew Kachuk reunite because 1710 01:31:54.899 --> 01:31:58.500 they're different style players. Brady Kachuk is just like his father, 1711 01:31:58.539 --> 01:32:01.119 Keith Kachuk, as they're both power forwards. I mean, Keith 1712 01:32:01.140 --> 01:32:04.010 Kachuk was like 6'5, 230 pounds. He was like a 1713 01:32:04.050 --> 01:32:06.510 Mack truck out there. But he had great hands and 1714 01:32:06.630 --> 01:32:09.210 can score with

the best of them. And Brady Kachuk 1715 01:32:09.630 --> 01:32:12.079 is a lot more like Keith Kachuk, whereas Matthew Kachuk 1716 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:14.060 is a little bit smaller and kind of plays a 1717 01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:15.460 different style of hockey. 1718 01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:18.680 Physicality is the name of the game for all three 1719 01:32:18.699 --> 01:32:22.470 of them, though, right? Certainly with Brady and Matthew. I 1720 01:32:22.710 --> 01:32:25.770 was not an NHL fan at the time when their father, Keith, 1721 01:32:25.789 --> 01:32:27.670 was playing, but I've got to imagine he was laying 1722 01:32:27.689 --> 01:32:29.829 in the wood like Matthew and Brady do. 1723 01:32:29.989 --> 01:32:31.729 He did that, and yet he was scoring like 40 1724 01:32:31.729 --> 01:32:33.880 or 50 goals a season. So he was like one 1725 01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:36.920 of those ultimate power forward type of guys. Get in 1726 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:38.720 front of the net, and you had a really tough 1727 01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:39.329 time moving him. 1728 01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:41.979 That's why he's a hockey Hall of Famer, right? There 1729 01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:42.279 you go. 1730 01:32:42.340 --> 01:32:45.239 So we got Lee Sterling coming up next from Paramount Sports. 1731 01:32:45.319 --> 01:32:48.739 We'll discuss some of the lines for some of the 1732 01:32:48.779 --> 01:32:51.779 biggest games in college and pro football with Lee in 1733 01:32:51.819 --> 01:32:54.039 about three minutes here on the Sean O'Connell Show. James 1734 01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:56.880 Peterson filling in. This is Utah's number one sports talk 1735 01:32:56.939 --> 01:32:58.899 in your home of the Utes, your home for football. 1736 01:32:59.100 --> 01:33:15.680 ESPN 700, 92.1 FM. Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell show. 1737 01:33:15.739 --> 01:33:20.199 We are winding down our number two with one of 1738 01:33:20.229 --> 01:33:23.130 our favorites on a Friday, on a football Friday, Lee 1739 01:33:23.170 --> 01:33:27.869 Sterling from Paramount Sports. looking for a bounce back week, 1740 01:33:28.409 --> 01:33:32.529 still six or seven weeks. And our college football 50 1741 01:33:32.529 --> 01:33:35.170 unit game of the year goes live on Saturday. That's 1742 01:33:35.270 --> 01:33:37.529 for paramount sports. Lee, welcome in. 1743 01:33:38.430 --> 01:33:41.369 Oh, thanks so much for having me a big weekend, 1744 01:33:41.529 --> 01:33:44.550 big weekend where you guys are for college football. 1745 01:33:45.189 --> 01:33:47.609 Yeah, absolutely. We got a top 10 team. 1746 01:33:47.649 --> 01:33:51.489 We'll get into the BYU Notre Dame game, Utah got 1747 01:33:51.510 --> 01:33:53.850 a very winnable game against Colorado, but you got to 1748 01:33:53.899 --> 01:33:56.829 make sure you don't have a, trap game looking ahead 1749 01:33:56.869 --> 01:34:03.130 to Houston next weekend for sure. Let's start with a 1750 01:34:03.470 --> 01:34:09.550 huge one nationally. You got last year's Big Ten championship 1751 01:34:09.590 --> 01:34:15.430 game rematch, Ohio State, Indiana, Ohio State, my Buckeyes looking 1752 01:34:15.489 --> 01:34:19.229 for revenge against the Hoosiers last year. 1753 01:34:19.550 --> 01:34:20.350 How do you see this one? 1754 01:34:21.210 --> 01:34:24.550 Well, revenge is one thing, but I still think Ohio 1755 01:34:24.590 --> 01:34:27.109 State has two weaknesses here, and no one talks really 1756 01:34:27.130 --> 01:34:31.109 about either. Their pass rush, only nine sacks in six games. 1757 01:34:31.170 --> 01:34:33.630 I mean, they've led going into the fourth quarter, even 1758 01:34:33.649 --> 01:34:36.289 in the game against Texas, and they only had one 1759 01:34:36.329 --> 01:34:40.220 sack against Ball State, one against Kent State, and a 1760 01:34:40.420 --> 01:34:45.279 big fat donut against Maryland. So they're going to have 1761 01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:47.279 to do better in this game. Got to put some 1762 01:34:47.340 --> 01:34:52.380 pressure here on the Indiana passing game, and Well, Jeremiah Smith, 1763 01:34:52.899 --> 01:34:54.680 there's no one even close to him. I mean, he's 1764 01:34:54.859 --> 01:34:57.359 by far the best player in college football, but they 1765 01:34:57.390 --> 01:35:00.609 have not been able to find a number two receiver. 1766 01:35:00.670 --> 01:35:03.909 No one's resurfaced here. And all these five stars are 1767 01:35:03.949 --> 01:35:06.949 playing like two and three stars here. And I give 1768 01:35:06.989 --> 01:35:08.810 Indian a lot of credit. They were going into the 1769 01:35:08.850 --> 01:35:12.029 wind of 30, 35 mile an hour wind. for two 1770 01:35:12.050 --> 01:35:14.829 of the four quarters last week, and they held on. 1771 01:35:14.869 --> 01:35:17.199 They were tough, and then when they needed the right 1772 01:35:17.239 --> 01:35:21.220 play call, Kurt Cignetti, two fourth-down calls that were masterful. 1773 01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:24.699 I think the wrong team's favorite. I like Indiana, 24-23. 1774 01:35:24.800 --> 01:35:28.159 I don't like to hear that as a Buckeyes fan, Lee. 1775 01:35:28.180 --> 01:35:28.500 Sorry. 1776 01:35:28.899 --> 01:35:33.279 Ohio State favored by three-and-a-half points. But, yeah, I. 1777 01:35:33.710 --> 01:35:36.069 I don't disagree with what you're saying, though, the defense, 1778 01:35:36.210 --> 01:35:39.789 which has carried them over the last three, four years. 1779 01:35:40.170 --> 01:35:43.050 And when they've been great teams, the defense has been 1780 01:35:43.130 --> 01:35:45.250 one of the best defenses, if not the best defense 1781 01:35:45.289 --> 01:35:48.590 in the league. It doesn't feel like it's quite that 1782 01:35:48.670 --> 01:35:51.250 strong this year. And I'm just not a huge fan 1783 01:35:51.270 --> 01:35:54.949 of Julian saying he doesn't. He leaves a lot to 1784 01:35:54.989 --> 01:35:57.210 be desired in my opinion there. So I could see 1785

01:35:57.510 --> 01:35:59.569 Indiana coming out on top. I don't want it to 1786 01:35:59.609 --> 01:36:01.569 happen though, but we'll see what happens. Should be a 1787 01:36:01.569 --> 01:36:03.810 good one on big noon set up big noon kickoff 1788 01:36:03.810 --> 01:36:08.500 10 AM here locally on Fox air force is favored 1789 01:36:08.539 --> 01:36:10.579 by a point against UNLV. 1790 01:36:11.800 --> 01:36:14.739 So I think air force, you know, there's certain teams 1791 01:36:14.859 --> 01:36:18.520 out there like Vanderbilt and Vanderbilt playing close game after 1792 01:36:18.640 --> 01:36:21.880 close game. And then finally Ole Miss blew their doors 1793 01:36:21.979 --> 01:36:25.649 off last week. I think Air Force is a team, 1794 01:36:25.989 --> 01:36:28.800 they just don't have much talent at all. Now they're 1795 01:36:29.399 --> 01:36:33.340 playing the second game without their starting quarterback. Everyone usually 1796 01:36:33.380 --> 01:36:36.340 plays against the team the first game. They weren't playing 1797 01:36:36.380 --> 01:36:39.020 much competition last week. Now they go up against a 1798 01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:41.979 UNLV team that's all of a sudden red hot. And 1799 01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:46.560 Air Force has real trouble with teams that have mobile 1800 01:36:46.619 --> 01:36:50.859 dual threat quarterbacks. And that's Jackson Arnold here. Blowout City, 1801 01:36:51.340 --> 01:36:55.109 UNLV getting a point. Are you kidding me? They're going 1802 01:36:55.130 --> 01:36:56.119 to win this game here at 38-20. 1803 01:36:56.670 --> 01:36:56.970 Wow. 1804 01:36:57.310 --> 01:37:01.569 Yeah, that's a big going against the spread there for 1805 01:37:01.810 --> 01:37:07.140 picking UNLV there. So I know OC usually likes to end, 1806 01:37:07.279 --> 01:37:09.020 since we're home of the Utes, end with the Utah game. 1807 01:37:09.060 --> 01:37:12.180 But because the other team in the state here is 1808 01:37:12.220 --> 01:37:14.239 a top-10 matchup, that's the one I want to end 1809 01:37:14.260 --> 01:37:16.100 with as far as the college games go. So let's 1810 01:37:16.140 --> 01:37:21.060 talk about Utah here first. favored by 15.5 points at Colorado. 1811 01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:26.500 I've been talking about this game as kind of like 1812 01:37:26.659 --> 01:37:32.850 it's such a huge talent gap. Colorado feels vastly inferior 1813 01:37:32.930 --> 01:37:36.010 to Utah. It feels like not a get-right game because 1814 01:37:36.090 --> 01:37:37.710 Utah's undefeated. What do you got to get right? It's 1815 01:37:37.750 --> 01:37:40.949 more like a perfect things kind of game. So how 1816 01:37:40.989 --> 01:37:43.649 do you see this one playing out? It feels like 1817 01:37:43.810 --> 01:37:45.720 Utah should win big just like they're favored to. 1818 01:37:46.470 --> 01:37:49.850 Right. At some point this season, Utah is going to 1819 01:37:49.909 --> 01:37:53.329 have to play something resembling a good defense. As the 1820 01:37:53.369 --> 01:37:56.710 number one scoring and number one yardage offense, they literally 1821 01:37:57.930 --> 01:38:03.180 cannot have done much better. Colorado's defense is very slightly 1822 01:38:03.220 --> 01:38:05.920 in the top half of the rankings. Not good, but 1823 01:38:05.979 --> 01:38:10.770 not bad. The Utes, three big games on deck. I 1824 01:38:10.829 --> 01:38:12.859 think this might be a spot here where they take 1825 01:38:12.899 --> 01:38:15.340 their foot off the gas here and maybe give up 1826 01:38:15.380 --> 01:38:17.460 a couple big plays here. I think they're going to 1827 01:38:17.600 --> 01:38:22.689 win 32-20, but I think the line here, 15.5, just 1828 01:38:22.729 --> 01:38:24.029 a little bit too much. 1829 01:38:24.590 --> 01:38:27.350 So that'd be the first game all year that they 1830 01:38:27.529 --> 01:38:29.949 will not cover if that turns out to be the case. 1831 01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:32.600 But you still see them winning by a couple of 1832 01:38:32.619 --> 01:38:35.880 scores probably, just not quite. 1833 01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:35.760 16, 15, 16 points. 1834 01:38:35.840 --> 01:38:39.050 Yeah, 10 to 14 points. What happens is when you 1835 01:38:39.069 --> 01:38:42.529 start getting ranked higher, They just say add a couple 1836 01:38:42.590 --> 01:38:45.500 points to what you've got to give. It's like a 1837 01:38:45.539 --> 01:38:46.199 tariff tax. 1838 01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:47.899 Got it. That makes a lot of sense. 1839 01:38:48.039 --> 01:38:49.739 Let's look at the game of the week in the 1840 01:38:49.800 --> 01:38:52.180 NFL before we get to the Notre Dame-BYU game. 1841 01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:55.199 Bills, Raiders, Bills favored by four and a half. 1842 01:38:55.220 --> 01:38:55.300 Yep. 1843 01:38:56.100 --> 01:38:59.430 Yeah, I like the Raiders here. I think the Raiders 1844 01:38:59.449 --> 01:39:03.829 were in a really tough spot last week. After fighting 1845 01:39:03.869 --> 01:39:07.770 the Chiefs tooth and nail that fourth quarter, there's 30-something 1846 01:39:07.869 --> 01:39:11.029 points scored in the last fourth quarter. They had to 1847 01:39:11.069 --> 01:39:13.329 go east and play in a 1 o'clock Eastern game 1848 01:39:13.369 --> 01:39:16.689 against the red-hot New England team. So they were up 1849 01:39:16.770 --> 01:39:19.630 against it. Buffalo wanted the game last week. And in 1850 01:39:19.670 --> 01:39:24.199 that win, which was paramount to them, If the Rams 1851 01:39:24.260 --> 01:39:26.479 make any of those two field goals in the second 1852 01:39:26.539 --> 01:39:30.119 half for an overtime, the bills lose that game. Their 1853 01:39:30.140 --> 01:39:33.399 defense is just too weak here. I think Gentry is 1854 01:39:33.420 --> 01:39:35.319 going to have a big game, Austin Gentry for the 1855 01:39:35.699 --> 01:39:37.869 Raiders here. And I think her cousins might be able 1856 01:39:37.890 --> 01:39:40.949 to dial up some big plays on this really

bad 1857 01:39:41.029 --> 01:39:45.369 Buffalo secondary room team favored. I got the Raiders pulling 1858 01:39:45.390 --> 01:39:48.270 the upset here, 28, 25. And that's your game of 1859 01:39:48.300 --> 01:39:48.600 the week. 1860 01:39:48.640 --> 01:39:51.560 So that that's your special promo on that, right? Every week. 1861 01:39:51.579 --> 01:39:51.739 Yeah. 1862 01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:55.159 Yeah, and we'll give them a free game. We're going 1863 01:39:55.180 --> 01:39:57.819 to go with the Cowboys and Packers. Anyone wants to 1864 01:39:57.859 --> 01:40:00.310 get that game? Yeah. All they need to do is 1865 01:40:00.350 --> 01:40:06.050 call 800-400-9741. Give them the Packers and Cowboys. You talk 1866 01:40:06.069 --> 01:40:09.689 about a must-win for both teams. Packers lose this game. 1867 01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:14.659 They could be three games back of Minnesota. Little, little hint. 1868 01:40:14.779 --> 01:40:17.520 I have a feeling that the Chargers, if they lose, 1869 01:40:17.979 --> 01:40:20.760 Justin Herbert could be on the trading block in a 1870 01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:25.810 perfect scenario. Minnesota Vikings and the Cowboys. There's not going 1871 01:40:25.829 --> 01:40:29.210 to be a wild card team coming from the NFC East. 1872 01:40:30.090 --> 01:40:32.569 They got to win the division. So big game. All 1873 01:40:32.609 --> 01:40:36.310 they need to do is call 800-400-9741 to get that 1874 01:40:36.350 --> 01:40:36.979 game for free. 1875 01:40:37.899 --> 01:40:38.140 All right. 1876 01:40:38.180 --> 01:40:40.939 Now let's look at this top 10 matchup. here down 1877 01:40:40.979 --> 01:40:45.329 in Provo, Lee, number eight, BYU hosting number two, Notre Dame, 1878 01:40:45.369 --> 01:40:47.449 Notre Dame favored by 10 and a half points. 1879 01:40:48.050 --> 01:40:51.199 Does that feel too high to you or about right? 1880 01:40:52.239 --> 01:40:54.199 At first I thought it was too high and I 1881 01:40:54.220 --> 01:40:57.420 started studying the game and I'm like, wow, no games 1882 01:40:57.460 --> 01:41:00.920 won 16 straight games. Every game's been by double digits. 1883 01:41:01.500 --> 01:41:03.750 So you think, oh, they're going to have a close game. 1884 01:41:03.810 --> 01:41:07.369 But they had one real weakness coming into the season. 1885 01:41:07.409 --> 01:41:09.909 It took them like four games to figure it out. 1886 01:41:10.250 --> 01:41:12.170 They went through a couple different running backs. They lost 1887 01:41:12.289 --> 01:41:14.649 two running backs drafted in the first round. I can't 1888 01:41:14.670 --> 01:41:17.939 remember a team that's had that happen before. They went 1889 01:41:17.960 --> 01:41:20.340 through a couple guys, and the third guy, they finally 1890 01:41:20.380 --> 01:41:23.399 hit pay dirt here with John Eswalton. He had 120 1891 01:41:23.399 --> 01:41:28.659 rushing yards against North Carolina, 181 against Stanford. They're going 1892 01:41:28.680 --> 01:41:30.960 to be

a tough out here. They're not going to 1893 01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:33.939 give up many big plays. Bear Bachmeier is great, but 1894 01:41:33.979 --> 01:41:37.279 without the top running back and the receivers, not getting 1895 01:41:37.340 --> 01:41:40.310 a whole lot of separation, hitting on big plays. This 1896 01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:43.789 is a really good defense. BYU might have the hardest-hitting defense, 1897 01:41:44.229 --> 01:41:47.250 but Notre Dame, certainly a top-five defense. It's going to 1898 01:41:47.270 --> 01:41:49.289 be fun, but I think Notre Dame is the right 1899 01:41:49.350 --> 01:41:52.250 side here. I think they pull away late here. Winning cover, 28-13. 1900 01:41:52.430 --> 01:41:55.989 Winning cover, all right. 1901 01:41:56.010 --> 01:41:59.250 I know a lot of our listeners, Utes fans, don't 1902 01:41:59.270 --> 01:42:03.729 mind hearing that, Lee. But not the greatest thing for 1903 01:42:03.750 --> 01:42:06.050 the Big 12, and kind of secondarily maybe not the 1904 01:42:06.090 --> 01:42:10.300 greatest thing for Utah if BYU's not able to pull 1905 01:42:10.359 --> 01:42:11.039 out this game. 1906 01:42:11.119 --> 01:42:14.579 But again, it's rivalries. Utes fans don't care about that. 1907 01:42:15.180 --> 01:42:18.149 No, not at all. Not at all. And the only 1908 01:42:18.159 --> 01:42:20.149 thing that would be better is if it was next year, 1909 01:42:20.850 --> 01:42:22.850 then every team, as long as they're nine and three, 1910 01:42:22.930 --> 01:42:25.829 everyone gets in. So that's a stretch, a story for 1911 01:42:25.890 --> 01:42:26.430 another day. 1912 01:42:26.989 --> 01:42:27.489 Absolutely. 1913 01:42:27.550 --> 01:42:31.810 What, what do you think about this 14, 2014 playoff? 1914 01:42:31.850 --> 01:42:33.630 I should say that that's looks like it's going to 1915 01:42:33.649 --> 01:42:34.869 go into effect next year. 1916 01:42:35.729 --> 01:42:41.029 I think it's horrendous. It's really diminishes the regular season. And, 1917 01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:47.560 you know, having teams 13 to 24 play opening weekend 1918 01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:50.159 of the playoffs, not good. So anyone wants to check 1919 01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:53.739 us out, just one place, ParamountSports.com. 1920 01:42:53.800 --> 01:43:00.739 ParamountSports.com, 800-400-9741. Lee, best handicapper in the business. He'll help 1921 01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:04.119 you get some extra money there. Lee, thank you so 1922 01:43:04.140 --> 01:43:04.779 much for your time. 1923 01:43:04.840 --> 01:43:05.420 Have a good weekend. 1924 01:43:06.060 --> 01:43:06.899 Okay, sounds good. 1925 01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:10.989 That's Lee Sterling, Paramount Sports. All right, coming up next, 1926 01:43:11.310 --> 01:43:15.779 we've got Coordinator's Corner. Kevin McGiven, the offensive coordinator, a.k.a. 1927 01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:16.640 Mac G. 1928 01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:17.680 O.C. 1929 01:43:17.739 --> 01:43:19.039 Talked with him earlier in the week. 1930 01:43:19.520 --> 01:43:21.479 We'll bring that to you for the first time, bring 1931 01:43:21.500 --> 01:43:23.359 that to the air for the first time next in 1932 01:43:23.399 --> 01:43:25.579 about three minutes here on the Sean O'Connell Show. James 1933 01:43:25.619 --> 01:43:28.180 Peterson filling in on Utah's number one sports talk and 1934 01:43:28.220 --> 01:43:29.819 your home of the U. It's ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 1935 01:43:32.869 --> 01:43:36.029 Let's dive into this week's matchup in the coordinator's corner 1936 01:43:36.170 --> 01:43:40.170 of the Sean O'Connell Show. OC chats with the coordinators 1937 01:43:40.270 --> 01:43:43.569 every week of the Utah football season. On your home 1938 01:43:43.649 --> 01:43:49.239 of the Utes and your home for football, ESPN 792.1 FM. 1939 01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:52.619 All right, it is that time of the week again 1940 01:43:52.659 --> 01:43:55.359 here on the Sean O'Connell Show coordinator's corner. We go 1941 01:43:55.399 --> 01:43:58.840 back and forth between offense and defense. This week we're 1942 01:43:58.880 --> 01:44:01.699 lucky enough to catch up once again with With offensive 1943 01:44:01.739 --> 01:44:05.430 coordinator for your Utah football team, Kevin McGiven, more affectionately 1944 01:44:05.479 --> 01:44:07.470 referred to as Mac G. 1945 01:44:08.170 --> 01:44:09.229 Coach, welcome back. 1946 01:44:09.149 --> 01:44:09.489 To the show. 1947 01:44:09.510 --> 01:44:09.890 How are you? 1948 01:44:11.069 --> 01:44:11.850 Good. Doing good. 1949 01:44:11.869 --> 01:44:13.609 I appreciate it. 1950 01:44:13.710 --> 01:44:15.670 Your Utes are 5-0. 1951 01:44:15.770 --> 01:44:21.069 You are a top-ranked offense in multiple categories, and you're 1952 01:44:21.149 --> 01:44:22.210 on the road this week. 1953 01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:24.760 At the university of Colorado. 1954 01:44:24.779 --> 01:44:27.100 Uh, we'll take a look back at Kansas, take a 1955 01:44:27.119 --> 01:44:30.430 look ahead to Colorado, but overall, when you're going back 1956 01:44:30.489 --> 01:44:33.069 and you're studying tape and, you know, we haven't spoken 1957 01:44:33.130 --> 01:44:36.750 to you since the bi-week, uh, you know, grade out 1958 01:44:36.869 --> 01:44:40.250 your overall offense and your overall feeling on how this 1959 01:44:40.289 --> 01:44:42.109 has come together relatively quickly. 1960 01:44:43.550 --> 01:44:43.909 Yeah. 1961 01:44:43.930 --> 01:44:46.729 Um, you know, I was talking to the, to the 1962 01:44:46.810 --> 01:44:50.789 office on Monday as, as we were reviewing the game and, um, 1963 01:44:51.659 --> 01:44:54.350 There's obviously been a lot of positives, a lot of 1964 01:44:54.949 --> 01:44:57.909 really good things that we can lean into, but a 1965 01:44:58.770 --> 01:45:00.869 lot of things I think we can get a lot 1966 01:45:00.909 --> 01:45:08.039 better at, a lot cleaner executionally. I still think this 1967 01:45:08.079 --> 01:45:12.659 team has a bunch of

potential that we haven't reached yet, 1968 01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:16.079 and show some examples of that, the guys of things, 1969 01:45:16.300 --> 01:45:18.270 things that we left out there, but, but a lot 1970 01:45:18.310 --> 01:45:20.590 of really good positives that have shown up over the 1971 01:45:20.649 --> 01:45:25.149 first five weeks with, you know, situational areas with third 1972 01:45:25.170 --> 01:45:27.770 down efficiency with, you know, how we've been in the 1973 01:45:27.829 --> 01:45:32.529 red zone, getting into some backup situations, you know, and, 1974 01:45:32.750 --> 01:45:34.430 and some of those, you know, came on the hills 1975 01:45:34.510 --> 01:45:37.939 of defensive stops that were awesome, but so punching it 1976 01:45:37.979 --> 01:45:40.359 out of backup situations. And then I feel like we've 1977 01:45:40.600 --> 01:45:43.779 been pretty effective with our, with our balance and distribution. 1978 01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:47.479 When you talk about the things that you're able to 1979 01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:50.399 highlight and say, Hey guys, this there's meat left on 1980 01:45:50.420 --> 01:45:52.119 the bone. We can get better at this. Can you 1981 01:45:52.140 --> 01:45:53.880 give me an example or two of what those things 1982 01:45:53.960 --> 01:45:54.479 are in your mind? 1983 01:45:55.859 --> 01:45:56.060 Yeah. 1984 01:45:56.300 --> 01:45:58.699 You know, those are always things we go through with, 1985 01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:02.279 with dev every week, you know, maybe it's a situation 1986 01:46:02.319 --> 01:46:05.090 where he kind of touches the runs, but some, some 1987 01:46:05.100 --> 01:46:07.739 things in the past name where we've, we've left some 1988 01:46:07.770 --> 01:46:11.390 things out there with, with open guys or, or everything 1989 01:46:11.430 --> 01:46:15.250 is getting a little bit, you know, disconnected in terms 1990 01:46:15.310 --> 01:46:17.649 of where a guy needs to be, or if he's, 1991 01:46:17.930 --> 01:46:19.680 if he's got a concept where he's reading on the 1992 01:46:19.729 --> 01:46:23.060 run and, and, you know, doesn't make a right decision, 1993 01:46:23.079 --> 01:46:25.979 you know, there's just, just kind of little things, little 1994 01:46:26.020 --> 01:46:28.140 nuances like that all over the place that we can, 1995 01:46:28.159 --> 01:46:30.760 that I think we can really clean up and get 1996 01:46:30.800 --> 01:46:34.449 better as, as we move forward. You know, I've been 1997 01:46:34.470 --> 01:46:37.880 effective with the, with the run game. Um, you know, 1998 01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:42.220 the times when we can sustain better, communicate better, um, 1999 01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:45.119 you know, we're, you know, targeting maybe a little bit 2000 01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:47.550 off and, um, we can fix some of those things 2001 01:46:47.609 --> 01:46:49.590 as well to even, to even clean that up and 2002 01:46:49.609 --> 01:46:50.829 make that, make that better. 2003 01:46:51.850 --> 01:46:54.470 A moment ago, you alluded to your, your team showing 2004 01:46:54.510 --> 01:46:57.229 the ability to get themselves out of the backed up situations. 2005 01:46:57.270 --> 01:47:00.590 We saw that against Kansas after a great defensive stop, 2006 01:47:00.609 --> 01:47:03.100 right on the goal line. Uh, you know, what third 2007 01:47:03.140 --> 01:47:05.880 play of the series, uh, and way Sean takes it 2008 01:47:05.880 --> 01:47:10.119 90 yards and, and shifts the momentum in the game. 2009 01:47:11.020 --> 01:47:13.399 What makes you so good at getting out of those 2010 01:47:13.460 --> 01:47:16.970 backed up situations? And maybe more importantly, how much does 2011 01:47:16.979 --> 01:47:19.949 that affect your play calling when you're in that condensed 2012 01:47:21.010 --> 01:47:22.229 in your own end zone effectively? 2013 01:47:23.609 --> 01:47:28.750 Yeah, you really kind of shrink down to a menu of, 2014 01:47:29.210 --> 01:47:33.140 you know, maybe, seven or eight calls in, in, in 2015 01:47:33.180 --> 01:47:36.899 that situation, you know, because especially with a lot of 2016 01:47:36.920 --> 01:47:38.819 the things we do offensively, that may be a little 2017 01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:42.560 more intricate in terms of ball handling and, you know, 2018 01:47:43.079 --> 01:47:45.710 meshing with our option game or, or, or whatever it 2019 01:47:45.750 --> 01:47:49.039 may be. There's, a lot of things going on there. So, 2020 01:47:49.359 --> 01:47:50.560 you know, it can make you a little bit more 2021 01:47:50.579 --> 01:47:53.500 vanilla when you, when you get down there a little 2022 01:47:53.520 --> 01:47:56.460 bit more direct in the run game in terms of 2023 01:47:56.520 --> 01:47:59.229 just making sure you're trying to be downhill and, and 2024 01:47:59.369 --> 01:48:02.590 getting bodies accounted for, not, not cutting guys loose in 2025 01:48:02.609 --> 01:48:06.409 the backfield, but you know, but those plans are generated 2026 01:48:06.430 --> 01:48:09.310 throughout the week, just based on how we see teams playing. 2027 01:48:09.350 --> 01:48:11.789 If they're playing a little more aggressively or conservatively, then 2028 01:48:11.829 --> 01:48:15.229 that'll kind of dictate the menus as well with, with 2029 01:48:15.250 --> 01:48:16.789 some things you can do. But I think that the 2030 01:48:16.829 --> 01:48:19.430 kids have done a good job, you know, in practicing 2031 01:48:19.470 --> 01:48:24.800 those situations, understanding, um, situation football and being, being smart and, um, 2032 01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:28.220 and capitalize, you know, in terms of punching us out there. 2033 01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:30.000 So we've got to give the credit to them and 2034 01:48:30.020 --> 01:48:30.819 their execution. 2035 01:48:32.199 --> 01:48:34.739 Uh, that play where way Sean took it all the 2036 01:48:34.760 --> 01:48:37.479 way to the house was obviously a massive momentum swing 2037

01:48:37.579 --> 01:48:39.539 in the game when it had gotten a little bit tight. And, 2038 01:48:40.199 --> 01:48:42.939 There were several of those in this contest against a 2039 01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:46.770 Kansas team that I thought was, you know, they performed 2040 01:48:46.850 --> 01:48:50.270 pretty well against you guys in a way that maybe 2041 01:48:50.329 --> 01:48:54.050 surprised me, especially with Isaiah Marshall on their offensive side 2042 01:48:54.090 --> 01:48:57.470 of things. When you're looking at momentum swings in a game, 2043 01:48:59.010 --> 01:49:02.329 obviously you're so enwrapped in game plan and calling the 2044 01:49:02.369 --> 01:49:05.189 next right play. Do you have to factor in who's 2045 01:49:05.210 --> 01:49:07.939 got the momentum? Do you have to consider any of 2046 01:49:07.979 --> 01:49:09.539 that when you're calling the play down? 2047 01:49:11.039 --> 01:49:15.720 Yeah, and I think that's something that I need to 2048 01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:19.619 get a better beat on even, just kind of playing 2049 01:49:19.659 --> 01:49:24.220 the hot hand, if you will. Because I think both 2050 01:49:24.380 --> 01:49:26.939 of the last two games in Iowa State, it kind 2051 01:49:26.979 --> 01:49:30.850 of came in the third quarter, and this last game 2052 01:49:30.890 --> 01:49:35.810 came in the second quarter where there were some momentum 2053 01:49:35.869 --> 01:49:39.899 shifts in those games after a good early started Kansas 2054 01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:43.810 and good first half against, against Iowa state. And again, there, 2055 01:49:44.069 --> 01:49:48.569 you know, I think there were things there, you know, and, but, 2056 01:49:48.770 --> 01:49:51.439 but I think it's just us maintaining our focus and 2057 01:49:51.479 --> 01:49:55.210 really understanding because it's because we are pretty explosive on offense, 2058 01:49:55.229 --> 01:49:57.609 we're able to generate explosive plays that we can swing 2059 01:49:57.640 --> 01:50:00.739 momentum really quickly. If we're just dialed in and focused 2060 01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:04.020 and we don't let things compound, you know, and even, 2061 01:50:04.600 --> 01:50:07.180 even some of those in terms of momentum is, is just, 2062 01:50:07.300 --> 01:50:10.060 you know, it's, it's a killer to momentum when you 2063 01:50:10.100 --> 01:50:12.250 go out there and you're three and out, or it's 2064 01:50:12.310 --> 01:50:14.430 a one plate and then, and a turnover or something 2065 01:50:14.470 --> 01:50:18.300 like that. But, but just even, you know, I'm not 2066 01:50:18.359 --> 01:50:20.439 ignorant to the fact that you're not, you know, not 2067 01:50:20.470 --> 01:50:22.750 going to score on every single possession, but you can 2068 01:50:22.789 --> 01:50:27.010 still momentum back just by, by being methodical as well. And, 2069 01:50:27.029 --> 01:50:29.529 and just maintaining a drive, even if it doesn't result 2070 01:50:29.590 --> 01:50:32.970 in a score,

you know, where it keeps the defense 2071 01:50:33.029 --> 01:50:35.850 off the field a little bit. And, and, and usually, 2072 01:50:35.880 --> 01:50:37.699 you know, when we're able to get a couple of 2073 01:50:37.720 --> 01:50:40.180 first downs in a drive, and even if it starts 2074 01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:42.579 out methodically like that, because we have been pretty explosive, 2075 01:50:42.600 --> 01:50:43.960 those usually generate scores. 2076 01:50:45.789 --> 01:50:47.949 Kevin McGiven is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell 2077 01:50:47.970 --> 01:50:52.090 Show Coordinator's Corner on a Friday. You mentioned turnovers. The 2078 01:50:52.729 --> 01:50:54.569 team's been really good at taking care of the ball 2079 01:50:54.649 --> 01:50:59.260 against Kansas. There were a couple of turnovers. An interception 2080 01:50:59.270 --> 01:51:01.619 that was ultimately ruled a fumble that I thought was 2081 01:51:01.659 --> 01:51:03.239 a fumble in the first place, but they called an 2082 01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:07.260 interception on the broadcast, and then an actual regular interception. 2083 01:51:07.800 --> 01:51:09.760 What happened on those two plays when you go back. 2084 01:51:09.640 --> 01:51:10.079 And look at them? 2085 01:51:11.319 --> 01:51:15.369 Yeah, so one came on a One came on third down, 2086 01:51:15.390 --> 01:51:21.680 you know, and Kelvin was kind of in protection. You know, 2087 01:51:21.699 --> 01:51:24.600 the guy that he was on, he ended up kind 2088 01:51:24.640 --> 01:51:26.920 of on Devin's right side trying to kind of wash 2089 01:51:26.939 --> 01:51:31.010 that by. And Devin was just trying to make a 2090 01:51:31.050 --> 01:51:35.869 move sliding to his left and then about to step 2091 01:51:35.930 --> 01:51:38.310 up into the pocket. And, you know, the guy was 2092 01:51:38.329 --> 01:51:40.979 just able to barely get a hand on him. on 2093 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:43.220 his Jersey, you know, so I think, you know, Kelvin 2094 01:51:43.239 --> 01:51:44.729 was trying to wash him by and then it kind 2095 01:51:44.739 --> 01:51:46.949 of hooked, hooked down. He, but he was getting ready 2096 01:51:46.989 --> 01:51:48.890 to step up and throw the BP on a, on 2097 01:51:48.930 --> 01:51:51.609 a shallow that would have had a chance for a 2098 01:51:51.649 --> 01:51:55.409 conversion right there. But, um, you know, obviously didn't, didn't 2099 01:51:55.430 --> 01:51:58.250 go our way there. Um, and then, and then the 2100 01:51:58.289 --> 01:52:00.289 other one, you know, we've kind of gotten to it, um, 2101 01:52:00.529 --> 01:52:04.039 a two minute situation at the end of the half and, 2102 01:52:04.060 --> 01:52:06.840 you know, probably, probably a little bit aggressive with the 2103 01:52:06.859 --> 01:52:09.210 play call, but there was, there was some things we 2104 01:52:09.270 --> 01:52:12.390 saw with in our two minute study with their, with 2105 01:52:12.409 --> 01:52:17.479 their boundary coverage and a way we wanted to, a 2106 01:52:17.859 --> 01:52:21.079 way we wanted to attack that. And so I, you know, 2107 01:52:21.100 --> 01:52:23.840 I immediately went to a pretty aggressive call. It was, 2108 01:52:23.899 --> 01:52:25.880 it was a double post into the, into the boundary. 2109 01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:27.479 We had a kind of a smash concept to the 2110 01:52:27.520 --> 01:52:30.210 field and you know, Deb got a little bit locked 2111 01:52:30.270 --> 01:52:32.970 into kind of holding the quarter safety to the field. 2112 01:52:33.069 --> 01:52:35.329 And then, And then maybe a little bit late to 2113 01:52:35.369 --> 01:52:38.689 get back to BP where it was a little bit underthrown. 2114 01:52:39.229 --> 01:52:42.539 And then trying to make an adjustment to the ball. 2115 01:52:42.600 --> 01:52:45.859 And the defender came back and made a really nice 2116 01:52:45.899 --> 01:52:48.850 play on it. But I think the concept was appropriate. 2117 01:52:48.859 --> 01:52:52.170 What we would call a premier look for that play 2118 01:52:52.210 --> 01:52:54.409 based on what we were seeing. But again, just didn't 2119 01:52:54.470 --> 01:52:56.210 execute and capitalize in that situation. 2120 01:52:57.649 --> 01:52:59.989 I get confused when I see the underthrown deep balls 2121 01:53:00.029 --> 01:53:02.779 from Dev because then in the same game we'll see 2122 01:53:03.239 --> 01:53:06.039 a bunch go the way that they're supposed to go. And, 2123 01:53:06.279 --> 01:53:09.159 you know, I'm not enough of a quarterback guru to 2124 01:53:09.199 --> 01:53:10.720 be able to explain it one way or another. 2125 01:53:10.739 --> 01:53:12.939 I don't think it's an arm strength issue. 2126 01:53:12.970 --> 01:53:15.210 I don't know if it's a footwork issue, if it's 2127 01:53:15.270 --> 01:53:17.470 maybe a late read and trying to rush the throw 2128 01:53:17.989 --> 01:53:20.569 or whatever. But it seems like there's maybe one or 2129 01:53:20.609 --> 01:53:23.250 two each game where he floats it a little bit 2130 01:53:23.270 --> 01:53:25.100 or he underthrows it a little bit. And then most 2131 01:53:25.140 --> 01:53:26.800 of the time it goes where it's supposed to go. 2132 01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:30.600 How do you approach that? How are you guys coaching that? 2133 01:53:30.619 --> 01:53:35.000 Yeah, I think a couple things. You know, Dev's a 2134 01:53:35.060 --> 01:53:39.159 really innate football player. And, you know, so I think 2135 01:53:39.180 --> 01:53:42.060 there's times when he tries to play balls based off 2136 01:53:42.100 --> 01:53:45.680 leverage that he sees. You know, even in that situation, 2137 01:53:45.739 --> 01:53:48.050 he saw the corner, you know, kind of on the 2138 01:53:48.090 --> 01:53:53.710 high side of BP and probably could have used a 2139 01:53:53.729 --> 01:53:55.149 little bit more of a field to kind of throw 2140 01:53:55.170 --> 01:53:58.420 him across. the field a little bit. Um, you know, 2141 01:53:58.460 -->

01:53:59.899 but I, I think he was kind of trying to 2142 01:53:59.939 --> 01:54:03.359 bring BP back inside away from the corner and just 2143 01:54:03.399 --> 01:54:05.140 left a little bit short. And then, and then I 2144 01:54:05.159 --> 01:54:07.619 think also, you know, sometimes you get off platform a 2145 01:54:08.439 --> 01:54:11.710 little bit and maybe your feet aren't underneath you. And, and, 2146 01:54:12.130 --> 01:54:14.130 you know, so you kind of lose that power source 2147 01:54:14.149 --> 01:54:16.270 a little bit, but Dev's got the, the arm talent 2148 01:54:16.289 --> 01:54:18.029 to make all those throws when he's got his feet 2149 01:54:18.069 --> 01:54:20.550 underneath him and, and he's just letting it ride. 2150 01:54:22.789 --> 01:54:24.029 Was there a concerted effort? 2151 01:54:24.069 --> 01:54:27.810 Was there a desire in your offensive coordinator heart that you, 2152 01:54:27.989 --> 01:54:30.020 you wanted to see semi tell longer, get into the 2153 01:54:30.060 --> 01:54:30.850 end zone finally. 2154 01:54:30.939 --> 01:54:31.659 And of course we did. 2155 01:54:33.100 --> 01:54:33.500 Yeah. 2156 01:54:33.560 --> 01:54:39.760 Yeah, absolutely. You know, the, the, and there wasn't, you know, 2157 01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:42.960 that was, I think a fourth and two situation, probably 2158 01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:46.939 a pretty pivotal moment in the game. And, you know, 2159 01:54:46.960 --> 01:54:51.029 so it, there wasn't any hesitation on my part when I, 2160 01:54:51.260 --> 01:54:53.220 when I made the initial call and then I kind 2161 01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:55.699 of put my talk up and I was like, well, crap, 2162 01:54:55.720 --> 01:55:00.319 what did I just do? Um, but no, but, but 2163 01:55:00.399 --> 01:55:04.560 something again that, um, you know, we've, we've been practicing 2164 01:55:04.600 --> 01:55:07.069 that for a while and it's like, you know, if 2165 01:55:07.109 --> 01:55:09.310 we have, if we have an opportunity and, you know, 2166 01:55:09.329 --> 01:55:14.229 the correct hash and the correct style of defense and, um, 2167 01:55:14.649 --> 01:55:17.510 you know, we're, we're able to manipulate that the right way, then, um, 2168 01:55:18.350 --> 01:55:21.430 then we were looking for opportunities that we could call that. 2169 01:55:21.510 --> 01:55:26.029 So I wouldn't say it was knee-jerk. There was preparation 2170 01:55:26.050 --> 01:55:28.850 that went into it. I felt like we were going 2171 01:55:28.869 --> 01:55:32.130 to get a good look for it. But it was 2172 01:55:32.189 --> 01:55:34.510 really cool to see that and get him involved in 2173 01:55:34.550 --> 01:55:34.890 that way. 2174 01:55:35.689 --> 01:55:38.050 Does Dev have the option to give on that play, 2175 01:55:38.109 --> 01:55:39.689 or is that just a play-action look? 2176 01:55:41.430 --> 01:55:45.729 He does have the option to give, and absolutely. you know, 2177 01:55:45.819 --> 01:55:47.710 it looked like the way it sorted out the way 2178 01:55:47.729 --> 01:55:49.770 Sean could have buried that in there for a touchdown 2179 01:55:50.949 --> 01:55:54.529 as well. But yeah, but it's kind of, you know, 2180 01:55:54.550 --> 01:55:57.029 when we sent, when we sent Ricky in motion from 2181 01:55:57.069 --> 01:56:00.210 that side, so we kind of created that stack look 2182 01:56:00.270 --> 01:56:03.189 and basically Dev's looking to see how the defensive adjust 2183 01:56:03.270 --> 01:56:06.390 on it. So that if he, if you see someone 2184 01:56:06.449 --> 01:56:11.310 travel or, or there's a, you know, enough of a 2185 01:56:11.380 --> 01:56:15.579 reaction to, Um, where, where BP is going to be 2186 01:56:15.640 --> 01:56:18.680 able to go pin a man player on the, on the, 2187 01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:21.439 you know, it would be the man player on semi 2188 01:56:21.479 --> 01:56:23.859 in that situation, able to pin him. Cause that's really 2189 01:56:23.880 --> 01:56:28.390 a designed more screen to throw behind the line of scrimmage. So, 2190 01:56:28.550 --> 01:56:30.949 but yeah, I guess I'll be appropriate. Look, I'm not, but, and, 2191 01:56:31.810 --> 01:56:34.170 and decided to throw that. All right. Uh, you just 2192 01:56:34.210 --> 01:56:36.270 mentioned Ricky and did a good job, did a good 2193 01:56:36.289 --> 01:56:39.010 job sneaking in those guys inside even, even further with 2194 01:56:39.050 --> 01:56:39.470 the action. 2195 01:56:39.800 --> 01:56:40.680 Yeah, no, it was great. 2196 01:56:40.739 --> 01:56:43.020 And actually, I don't know if you heard the radio call. 2197 01:56:43.300 --> 01:56:45.800 Bill Riley, voice of the Utes, called it as a 2198 01:56:45.819 --> 01:56:48.720 way Sean Parker touchdown. He got faked and thought way 2199 01:56:48.739 --> 01:56:52.060 Sean had gotten the ball and but ended up being semi. 2200 01:56:52.159 --> 01:56:54.140 Either way, it's a touchdown, which is, of course, the 2201 01:56:54.180 --> 01:56:56.439 result that you're looking for in, like you said, a 2202 01:56:56.460 --> 01:57:00.100 very pivotal moment of the game. You mentioned Ricky also 2203 01:57:00.159 --> 01:57:04.729 Ricky Johnson, five catches, 104 yards and a touchdown. Great 2204 01:57:04.770 --> 01:57:06.770 to see him have a little bit of a breakout game. 2205 01:57:07.520 --> 01:57:09.960 And at the beginning of this conversation, you mentioned that 2206 01:57:09.979 --> 01:57:14.300 there's maybe still some untapped potential of this offense. And 2207 01:57:14.340 --> 01:57:17.039 I wonder how much of that lies in, you know, 2208 01:57:17.079 --> 01:57:20.060 just guys that haven't had as many touches or have 2209 01:57:20.390 --> 01:57:23.130 had the opportunity for those breakout games. When you're saying 2210 01:57:23.189 --> 01:57:25.430 something like, Oh, there's still more here. We got gas 2211 01:57:25.470 --> 01:57:28.489 left in the tank. How much of that is there's 2212 01:57:28.729 --> 01:57:31.689 three more Ricky

Johnson's potentially who could have this type 2213 01:57:31.729 --> 01:57:32.510 of a breakout game? 2214 01:57:33.710 --> 01:57:38.119 Yeah, I think it's, you know, just, just, Kind of 2215 01:57:38.149 --> 01:57:41.409 the way I break it down, I guess, going into 2216 01:57:41.449 --> 01:57:44.989 a game, I think there's always your top guys that 2217 01:57:45.010 --> 01:57:47.930 you want to make sure are getting opportunities. Obviously, Weishan 2218 01:57:48.869 --> 01:57:55.479 has been a huge contributor offensively and manufactures a lot 2219 01:57:55.520 --> 01:57:59.399 of our total offense every game. It's getting Devin involved 2220 01:57:59.439 --> 01:58:02.039 certain ways. It's getting Bird involved certain ways. It's getting 2221 01:58:02.100 --> 01:58:06.439 Daniel Bray involved. certain ways, making sure BP gets his targets. 2222 01:58:06.479 --> 01:58:10.180 But the rest of those guys, you kind of just 2223 01:58:10.239 --> 01:58:13.699 leave it up to the quarterback to distribute accordingly based 2224 01:58:14.520 --> 01:58:17.340 on what he sees. And so you never know. who 2225 01:58:17.380 --> 01:58:20.739 could have a breakout game, you know, just when there's 2226 01:58:20.760 --> 01:58:23.300 a lot of different options within calls, you know, it, 2227 01:58:23.300 --> 01:58:27.140 you know, I think Arkansas game where Noah Benny had 2228 01:58:27.180 --> 01:58:29.640 it kind of like coming out in, in that game. 2229 01:58:29.659 --> 01:58:33.350 And it was, it's not necessarily that you're, you're calling 2230 01:58:33.390 --> 01:58:35.989 things any differently. It's just who the ball is finding 2231 01:58:36.789 --> 01:58:40.430 in those situations based on, based on the looks and 2232 01:58:40.510 --> 01:58:43.390 the decisions that making. And so any guy at any 2233 01:58:43.430 --> 01:58:45.810 time could have a breakout game like that. And, and, 2234 01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:49.800 So I think that's the cool part of it is 2235 01:58:50.119 --> 01:58:51.689 there's a lot of guys out there that we trust. 2236 01:58:51.729 --> 01:58:58.109 You trust the distribution of the quarterback and whoever the 2237 01:58:58.149 --> 01:59:01.310 ball finds, you trust that they're going to make plays 2238 01:59:01.390 --> 01:59:02.909 and make good on their opportunities. 2239 01:59:03.770 --> 01:59:05.810 Kevin McGiven for another minute or two here on the 2240 01:59:05.850 --> 01:59:09.250 Sean O'Connell Show, Coordinator's Corner. We're talking Utah offense as 2241 01:59:09.289 --> 01:59:12.409 they get ready for a road trip to Boulder, Colorado. 2242 01:59:13.829 --> 01:59:17.529 I saw something this morning that you guys have trailed 2243 01:59:17.609 --> 01:59:20.109 for something like four and a half minutes so far 2244 01:59:20.180 --> 01:59:25.159 this season. And you're five for five in all five games, 2245 01:59:25.319 --> 01:59:27.920 scoring a touchdown on the first possession. 2246 01:59:28.520 --> 01:59:30.180 Who gets the credit for that besides you? 2247 01:59:30.380 --> 01:59:33.399 I mean, of course you do, but this is an 2248 01:59:33.439 --> 01:59:36.920 incredibly efficient offense, especially the first time it touches the 2249 01:59:36.939 --> 01:59:37.439 ball in a game. 2250 01:59:39.340 --> 01:59:39.949 Yeah, that's a. 2251 01:59:41.829 --> 01:59:45.380 Obviously, any time you put yourself in that situation, whether 2252 01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:49.000 you have the ball first or whether you get it, 2253 01:59:49.239 --> 01:59:51.119 our defense has done a good job when we haven't 2254 01:59:51.159 --> 01:59:56.399 gotten first of usually making stops. It's been nice that 2255 01:59:56.439 --> 01:59:58.439 we've been able to play with a lead, even in 2256 01:59:58.899 --> 02:00:02.079 games that have gotten close. We spend time on those openers. 2257 02:00:06.970 --> 02:00:09.029 you know, throughout the week, you know, it's, and it's 2258 02:00:09.109 --> 02:00:11.319 usually kind of picking from a, from a list of 2259 02:00:11.880 --> 02:00:13.840 things that we had worked on up until the point 2260 02:00:13.859 --> 02:00:16.720 where we get to like a Thursday or Friday. Um, 2261 02:00:17.000 --> 02:00:21.000 so then you got Thursday practice, um, you know, Friday 2262 02:00:21.039 --> 02:00:24.680 walkthrough Saturday walkthroughs where that's your, pretty much your main 2263 02:00:24.739 --> 02:00:28.060 focal point are those things that you're going to. 2264 02:00:28.279 --> 02:00:28.859 Open up with. 2265 02:00:28.930 --> 02:00:30.609 And so that, um, you have the ability to get 2266 02:00:30.630 --> 02:00:33.210 a fast start. So those are usually things in the 2267 02:00:33.270 --> 02:00:36.770 plan that, um, you know, that, get a little bit 2268 02:00:36.789 --> 02:00:39.329 more attention than, than some of the rest of the, 2269 02:00:39.350 --> 02:00:40.750 some of the rest of the things. And so you're 2270 02:00:40.770 --> 02:00:42.930 really working through the details. And so the kids have 2271 02:00:42.970 --> 02:00:45.590 done a great job owning that. And then, and then 2272 02:00:45.670 --> 02:00:48.409 even with a lot of those thoughts, we do something 2273 02:00:48.470 --> 02:00:52.810 as a staff where I have the staff members pick their, 2274 02:00:52.949 --> 02:00:56.779 their top 10 plays. And, you know, so it's kind 2275 02:00:56.800 --> 02:00:58.640 of fun as we, as we get to the back 2276 02:00:58.680 --> 02:01:01.000 end of the week, seeing what, seeing what the staff 2277 02:01:01.079 --> 02:01:05.260 likes and if that's, similar to the thoughts that I 2278 02:01:05.300 --> 02:01:07.420 have going in as well, and so incorporate all their 2279 02:01:08.340 --> 02:01:10.859 thoughts into those openers as well. It usually ends up 2280 02:01:10.880 --> 02:01:14.060 being kind of similar things that everybody is like, yeah, 2281 02:01:14.800 --> 02:01:19.300 let's get this going earlier. This can be later because 2282

02:01:19.359 --> 02:01:22.340 it complements this or whatever it is, but we kind 2283 02:01:22.380 --> 02:01:24.180 of build those out together, and then the kids do 2284 02:01:24.220 --> 02:01:25.060 a great job owning it. 2285 02:01:26.039 --> 02:01:28.619 It's obviously been great, and the results have been fantastic 2286 02:01:28.979 --> 02:01:32.750 as Utah sits 5-0 headed to Boulder, but do you 2287 02:01:32.789 --> 02:01:36.100 have to like mentally practice or at least script things or, 2288 02:01:36.180 --> 02:01:39.260 or get yourself ready for a scenario in which you 2289 02:01:39.319 --> 02:01:41.840 might have to play from behind this year? Will that 2290 02:01:41.920 --> 02:01:43.920 alter your play calling? If you have to play from 2291 02:01:43.960 --> 02:01:45.579 behind a couple of scores, heaven forbid. 2292 02:01:46.819 --> 02:01:50.609 Yeah. You know, I think just, you know, situation by situation, 2293 02:01:50.630 --> 02:01:53.829 I think, you know, we've, we've shown that, you know, 2294 02:01:53.850 --> 02:01:56.250 that we can, you know, and, and, and even in 2295 02:01:56.270 --> 02:01:59.090 this last game, maybe a little bit more extended drives than, 2296 02:01:59.109 --> 02:02:01.260 than some we've had. A lot of drives have been, 2297 02:02:01.720 --> 02:02:04.239 been pretty fast scoring but you know I think the 2298 02:02:04.279 --> 02:02:07.739 ability that um that we can be pretty explosive that 2299 02:02:07.810 --> 02:02:11.750 we can be methodical and put drives together um you 2300 02:02:11.789 --> 02:02:14.689 know I don't think it have to have to see 2301 02:02:14.710 --> 02:02:16.829 when we get in that situation and what exactly the 2302 02:02:16.890 --> 02:02:19.510 situation is you know in terms of where in the 2303 02:02:19.550 --> 02:02:23.250 game and things like that that could maybe dictate play 2304 02:02:23.289 --> 02:02:25.970 calling or you know how aggressive or you know whatever 2305 02:02:26.010 --> 02:02:29.609 the sequencing of the calls may be but um but 2306 02:02:29.649 --> 02:02:33.220 yeah I don't you know, hopefully not a situation that 2307 02:02:33.260 --> 02:02:35.979 we would be, you know, and, and I think Coach 2308 02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:38.739 Scali does a really good job, you know, even in 2309 02:02:38.800 --> 02:02:41.039 situations where we've had a lead, but we didn't have 2310 02:02:41.090 --> 02:02:46.130 momentum and, you know, we're facing a little bit of adversity, 2311 02:02:46.170 --> 02:02:49.149 but just how we're responding in those situations. And so 2312 02:02:49.710 --> 02:02:51.449 it's something that we're talking about with the guys all 2313 02:02:51.470 --> 02:02:53.130 the time that, yeah, we're going to be in the 2314 02:02:53.189 --> 02:02:56.189 situation sooner or later and you just got to strap 2315 02:02:56.229 --> 02:02:57.189 it up and play the next play. 2316 02:02:59.800 --> 02:03:02.420 What do you expect from the Colorado Buffaloes defense

coach? 2317 02:03:08.069 --> 02:03:14.050 Really, overall, probably as athletic or more than anybody we've 2318 02:03:14.090 --> 02:03:17.989 seen this year. They play a lot of man coverage, 2319 02:03:18.029 --> 02:03:20.949 so they trust their back-end guys to be able to 2320 02:03:20.989 --> 02:03:23.350 do that. They trust their guys on that front to 2321 02:03:23.369 --> 02:03:26.090 be able to get home bringing four or maybe adding 2322 02:03:26.149 --> 02:03:29.300 in a fifth. And, you know, and so they've got 2323 02:03:29.340 --> 02:03:32.720 an athletic group that, you know, moves, moves around a 2324 02:03:32.760 --> 02:03:34.880 lot and, you know, a little bit light up front, 2325 02:03:34.939 --> 02:03:38.520 but very switchy and very disruptive. I think they lead 2326 02:03:38.539 --> 02:03:42.609 the big 12 and TFLs, you know, and so they, 2327 02:03:42.750 --> 02:03:45.350 they've been, they've been really disrupted that way. And they, 2328 02:03:45.489 --> 02:03:48.390 they've got guys that can, they can match you on the, 2329 02:03:48.529 --> 02:03:51.109 on the backend. And so I would expect them to, 2330 02:03:51.880 --> 02:03:55.319 you know, have confidence in what they've been doing and, 2331 02:03:55.350 --> 02:03:57.050 and come out and try to do that. 2332 02:03:58.569 --> 02:04:02.609 Is your like voicemail inbox or your text messages or emails, 2333 02:04:02.649 --> 02:04:05.409 whatever it is, are you getting extra traffic now? Because 2334 02:04:05.609 --> 02:04:09.529 I'm starting to see after week four, week five, more 2335 02:04:09.750 --> 02:04:15.149 national pundits, more of these college football sort of sickos are, 2336 02:04:15.750 --> 02:04:19.960 are doing tape study on, your mastermind stuff on the 2337 02:04:20.180 --> 02:04:23.479 weird formations and the weird personnel packages. It took a 2338 02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:26.340 couple of weeks, but people are really noticing the unique 2339 02:04:26.359 --> 02:04:29.159 nature of this offense, and they're talking about it on 2340 02:04:29.199 --> 02:04:33.529 national shows, on TV, on podcasts everywhere. Has that increased 2341 02:04:33.649 --> 02:04:36.630 Kevin McGibbon's traffic in the messages at all? 2342 02:04:38.750 --> 02:04:42.930 Well, so I... I guess, truthfully, I wouldn't know too 2343 02:04:43.409 --> 02:04:48.989 much because I've gotten off of social media and all 2344 02:04:49.609 --> 02:04:54.260 that stuff. I always felt like that was a distraction. 2345 02:04:54.270 --> 02:04:59.180 I think the biggest focus for me is that there 2346 02:04:59.239 --> 02:05:03.060 are so many people involved in this thing from. 2347 02:05:05.020 --> 02:05:08.460 Coach Scali giving us autonomy and giving us creative freedom 2348 02:05:08.500 --> 02:05:11.329 and the things that the guys on the offensive staff 2349 02:05:11.350 --> 02:05:17.310 are coming up with every week. And the players owning 2350 02:05:17.430 --> 02:05:20.270 it and buying into it and even having thoughts and 2351 02:05:20.329 --> 02:05:23.840 ideas of their own where this is a team effort 2352 02:05:23.880 --> 02:05:27.000 and it's got to remain that way. So this is 2353 02:05:27.039 --> 02:05:31.340 not about me by any stretch. And so just... stay 2354 02:05:31.350 --> 02:05:32.119 away from the noise. 2355 02:05:32.520 --> 02:05:34.159 Well, I acknowledge that. 2356 02:05:34.579 --> 02:05:36.199 We don't dispute that, that it is very much a 2357 02:05:36.239 --> 02:05:38.720 team effort, but it is a little bit, it does 2358 02:05:38.760 --> 02:05:40.300 have a little bit to do with you, Coach, because 2359 02:05:40.319 --> 02:05:43.159 you're calling some great plays and this offense is humming. 2360 02:05:43.260 --> 02:05:44.300 I appreciate that. 2361 02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:46.779 We hope it stays that way and always appreciate you 2362 02:05:46.810 --> 02:05:48.550 giving us some time. I know I've taken up too 2363 02:05:48.590 --> 02:05:51.550 much of it here today. Good luck in Boulder. We'll 2364 02:05:51.569 --> 02:05:53.390 chat again in a couple of weeks. Thanks for your time. 2365 02:05:53.409 --> 02:05:56.029 Okay, sounds good. I appreciate it. 2366 02:05:56.829 --> 02:06:00.590 Kevin McGiven, that's Mac G. On a Friday here for 2367 02:06:00.630 --> 02:06:07.739 Coordinator's Corner. Brought to you by Mountain Home Services. The 2368 02:06:07.760 --> 02:06:11.220 airing of grievances is next. It's ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 2369 02:06:12.180 --> 02:06:15.920 You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoch 2370 02:06:15.960 --> 02:06:18.520 Chevrolet studio of ESPN 700 and 92.1 FM. 2371 02:06:21.770 --> 02:06:26.010 The tradition of Festivus begins with the airing of grievances. 2372 02:06:26.770 --> 02:06:28.729 I got a lot of problems with you people. 2373 02:06:28.850 --> 02:06:30.779 Now you're going to hear about it. 2374 02:06:33.430 --> 02:06:34.149 That's right. 2375 02:06:34.170 --> 02:06:36.609 It's time to unburden yourself. 2376 02:06:38.140 --> 02:06:38.800 Spence check. 2377 02:06:38.840 --> 02:06:41.939 It's called this segment. The best segment of the week. 2378 02:06:42.460 --> 02:06:46.100 I have to agree. It's a great, it's a great segment. 2379 02:06:46.140 --> 02:06:51.319 Time to unburden yourself. Let's air some grievances. It's fun to, uh, 2380 02:06:52.140 --> 02:06:54.300 be the one in the air chair doing this segment 2381 02:06:54.399 --> 02:06:57.020 usually of course it's OC here on the Sean O'Connell 2382 02:06:57.039 --> 02:07:00.399 show I'm James Peterson filling in for OC today he's 2383 02:07:00.439 --> 02:07:03.659 in Chicago calling PFL fights those get started about two 2384 02:07:03.680 --> 02:07:06.319 and a half hours from now on ESPN plus and 2385 02:07:06.340 --> 02:07:09.819 I think later tonight he'll have the main card on 2386 02:07:09.840 --> 02:07:12.359 ESPN too so be sure to tune into that you'll 2387 02:07:12.399 --> 02:07:15.000 get to hear from OC today

if you tune in 2388 02:07:15.520 --> 02:07:18.680 to those PFL fights from Chicago but let's air some 2389 02:07:18.720 --> 02:07:23.449 grievances We got a few on the text line. Get 2390 02:07:23.479 --> 02:07:28.420 them in, 877-353-0700. Tyson will be manning the phone line 2391 02:07:28.460 --> 02:07:33.520 as well. If you want to say your grievance out loud, 2392 02:07:33.600 --> 02:07:37.039 get on the show. The phone line, same phone number 2393 02:07:37.060 --> 02:07:43.300 as the text line, 877-353-0700. I'm going to start with mine, 2394 02:07:43.579 --> 02:07:45.539 and then we'll go to Tyson, and we'll read some 2395 02:07:45.560 --> 02:07:48.720 of yours. Maybe get a phone call or two if 2396 02:07:48.760 --> 02:07:53.989 you want. you are able to. All right, Tyson, a 2397 02:07:54.489 --> 02:07:59.829 couple of weeks ago, I'm playing pickup basketball with a group. 2398 02:07:59.920 --> 02:08:04.800 I've been able to find and hang out with once 2399 02:08:04.859 --> 02:08:07.470 a week here, and one of the guys there that 2400 02:08:07.479 --> 02:08:09.739 I don't know very well yet, I'm kind of new 2401 02:08:09.770 --> 02:08:13.350 to this group, he's not there every week, but he 2402 02:08:13.369 --> 02:08:18.310 was there a few weeks ago, and he He's younger 2403 02:08:18.329 --> 02:08:21.880 than me. He's probably Gen Z, somewhere in there, 20-something. 2404 02:08:23.899 --> 02:08:28.300 And as you have probably seen, a lot of the 2405 02:08:28.319 --> 02:08:31.920 20-somethings and younger like to have at least one AirPod 2406 02:08:32.140 --> 02:08:35.479 in the air at all times, even when they're playing basketball. 2407 02:08:35.880 --> 02:08:39.550 Bugs me when I see that playing basketball with someone, 2408 02:08:41.949 --> 02:08:45.789 just because you can't be like 10 minutes from your... 2409 02:08:46.989 --> 02:08:50.399 unconnected to your phone, disconnected from your phone for 10 minutes, really. 2410 02:08:50.640 --> 02:08:52.180 It's a lot if you're under the age of 30. 2411 02:08:52.180 --> 02:08:54.000 You have to have an AirPod in and you have 2412 02:08:54.020 --> 02:08:55.199 to be connected at all times. 2413 02:08:55.319 --> 02:08:57.310 You've got to have your own music playing in your ear, 2414 02:08:57.359 --> 02:08:59.939 even if we've got music playing over the speakers or whatever. 2415 02:09:01.479 --> 02:09:01.899 Strange. 2416 02:09:02.979 --> 02:09:06.899 My wife's a school counselor. She's dealing with middle schoolers. 2417 02:09:06.939 --> 02:09:09.899 She's telling me a lot of the times they're not 2418 02:09:09.979 --> 02:09:12.890 listening to anything. They just have to have an AirPod 2419 02:09:12.909 --> 02:09:16.409 in their ear. So that bugs me enough. This story, though... 2420 02:09:16.699 --> 02:09:20.350 But what made this even worse was he's playing, and 2421 02:09:20.430 --> 02:09:22.970 I'm not guarding him. I didn't hear any of this. 2422 02:09:23.029 --> 02:09:26.890 I just

heard the person who was guarding him. I 2423 02:09:26.930 --> 02:09:28.970 was next to him as they're having a conversation after 2424 02:09:28.989 --> 02:09:33.350 the game. The person who was guarding him goes, were 2425 02:09:33.369 --> 02:09:34.149 you on the phone? 2426 02:09:35.409 --> 02:09:36.210 And the guy goes, yeah. 2427 02:09:36.750 --> 02:09:40.510 So the guy's playing basketball. He's a really good ball handler, too. 2428 02:09:40.569 --> 02:09:42.729 He's handling the ball most of the time, scoring a lot. 2429 02:09:43.939 --> 02:09:46.579 While talking to someone else on the phone with his 2430 02:09:46.619 --> 02:09:48.600 air pod, which first of all, got to give you 2431 02:09:48.640 --> 02:09:49.159 props for that. 2432 02:09:49.199 --> 02:09:49.760 You're a good player. 2433 02:09:49.779 --> 02:09:52.079 If you can, if you can do multitask like that. 2434 02:09:52.520 --> 02:09:57.500 But secondly, and here's the grievance talking on the phone 2435 02:09:57.520 --> 02:09:59.619 while you're in the middle of a pickup basketball game, 2436 02:09:59.659 --> 02:10:03.399 like just answer it. Let call them later. Call them 2437 02:10:03.510 --> 02:10:06.279 after you miss the free throw. and not able to 2438 02:10:06.300 --> 02:10:07.119 play the next game. 2439 02:10:07.300 --> 02:10:07.619 Okay. 2440 02:10:07.960 --> 02:10:11.970 Like just disconnect while you're playing, while you're getting a 2441 02:10:12.189 --> 02:10:14.170 sweat in, while you're playing some basketball, you do not 2442 02:10:14.289 --> 02:10:16.310 need your air pod. And first of all, and you 2443 02:10:16.369 --> 02:10:18.829 certainly don't need to be taking phone calls while you're 2444 02:10:18.850 --> 02:10:19.430 playing basketball. 2445 02:10:19.649 --> 02:10:22.090 Who could you possibly be talking to? That'd be important 2446 02:10:22.130 --> 02:10:24.930 enough to be like, okay, well I'm on a fast 2447 02:10:24.989 --> 02:10:28.510 break here, but I've, this conversation is just as important. 2448 02:10:28.869 --> 02:10:30.489 You just pull up, hit a three, and then you 2449 02:10:30.520 --> 02:10:32.960 continue your conversation with whoever's on the phone and whoever's 2450 02:10:33.020 --> 02:10:36.270 on the other side of that conversation is You know, 2451 02:10:36.390 --> 02:10:39.500 they're probably thinking to themselves, wait, you're playing basketball and 2452 02:10:39.520 --> 02:10:41.699 talking to me at the same time? Just hang up. 2453 02:10:41.939 --> 02:10:43.550 I'll call you back when the game's over. 2454 02:10:43.710 --> 02:10:46.449 I bet it was a buddy who is in this 2455 02:10:46.510 --> 02:10:48.189 same world and doesn't care. 2456 02:10:48.909 --> 02:10:50.130 That's just, it's a whole, just. 2457 02:10:50.069 --> 02:10:51.949 What they do. Probably wasn't the first time he was 2458 02:10:52.069 --> 02:10:54.750 carrying on a conversation and playing basketball at the same time. 2459 02:10:54.869 --> 02:10:57.149 It sounds like some Gary Payton stuff where Gary Payton 2460 02:10:57.350 --> 02:11:00.109 will be trash talking everybody on the court, trash talk 2461 02:11:00.130 --> 02:11:02.479 and the person in the fifth row calling plays and 2462 02:11:02.489 --> 02:11:04.569 playing basketball at the same time. That's basically what this 2463 02:11:04.640 --> 02:11:05.159 guy was doing. 2464 02:11:05.180 --> 02:11:09.880 If Gary Payton grew up now and was 20 something now, 2465 02:11:10.699 --> 02:11:13.140 and he were allowed to an NBA games, he'd be 2466 02:11:13.199 --> 02:11:15.800 trash talking to someone on the phone on an air pod. 2467 02:11:16.470 --> 02:11:19.449 while schooling people on the court like he did back 2468 02:11:19.489 --> 02:11:24.029 in the day. That's the kind of level we had here. Yeah, 2469 02:11:24.229 --> 02:11:24.829 it was weird. 2470 02:11:25.069 --> 02:11:26.250 First time I've ever seen that. 2471 02:11:26.310 --> 02:11:30.239 I've seen the guys wearing the AirPod while they're playing 2472 02:11:30.460 --> 02:11:33.479 basketball before, and I assume they're listening to music or something. 2473 02:11:34.039 --> 02:11:37.319 I've learned later that they may not be listening to anything. 2474 02:11:37.359 --> 02:11:39.520 They just can't stand to not have their AirPod in 2475 02:11:39.560 --> 02:11:44.569 their ear. I have never seen or heard of someone 2476 02:11:44.609 --> 02:11:48.569 who's on the phone With their AirPod while they're playing 2477 02:11:48.609 --> 02:11:49.229 ball before. 2478 02:11:49.449 --> 02:11:52.960 Until then, a few weeks ago. So just disconnect. 2479 02:11:53.279 --> 02:11:57.899 We were playing two games of 11 or 15, sometimes 2480 02:11:57.899 --> 02:12:02.560 21 by ones and twos. That's like 10, max 15 minutes. 2481 02:12:03.720 --> 02:12:06.779 You're going to be okay if you're not connected to 2482 02:12:06.819 --> 02:12:07.399 your phone there. 2483 02:12:07.460 --> 02:12:08.850 But, I mean. 2484 02:12:10.050 --> 02:12:12.430 It's a whole different generation. It's the way of the 2485 02:12:12.470 --> 02:12:14.869 world now. So I guess I need to get over it. 2486 02:12:14.909 --> 02:12:16.189 But grievance, okay? 2487 02:12:16.529 --> 02:12:16.949 Grievance. 2488 02:12:17.050 --> 02:12:20.109 We need to get away from that. Tyson, you got 2489 02:12:20.130 --> 02:12:22.109 a couple of grievances. What's the first one you want 2490 02:12:22.130 --> 02:12:22.260 to add? 2491 02:12:22.270 --> 02:12:25.189 You know, this morning on the way here, I decided 2492 02:12:25.210 --> 02:12:27.140 I want to get a double croissant, which was sausage. 2493 02:12:27.159 --> 02:12:30.060 So I stopped at a Burger King. I ordered in 2494 02:12:30.100 --> 02:12:31.939 the person. I couldn't understand them all that well, but 2495 02:12:31.960 --> 02:12:35.439 I did understand second window. So I went over. And 2496 02:12:35.479 --> 02:12:36.899 there was a car in front of me, so I 2497 02:12:36.930 -->

02:12:39.590 was parked at the first window for a good two minutes. 2498 02:12:39.609 --> 02:12:41.109 There was nobody hanging out at the first window, and 2499 02:12:41.130 --> 02:12:43.949 the person said second window anyway. Well, a person in 2500 02:12:43.979 --> 02:12:46.420 front of me pulls out. I pull into the second window, 2501 02:12:46.859 --> 02:12:50.960 and somebody like 20 feet away from the window goes, 2502 02:12:51.539 --> 02:12:53.060 go back to the first window. Go back to the 2503 02:12:53.100 --> 02:12:57.970 first window. There's a cashier. I could see the cashier. 2504 02:12:57.989 --> 02:13:00.710 I could see that you can easily pay at the 2505 02:13:00.750 --> 02:13:03.649 second window, especially since at this same location, I have 2506 02:13:03.689 --> 02:13:06.609 paid at the second window the previous five times I've 2507 02:13:06.649 --> 02:13:08.810 been there. She wants me to back up in a 2508 02:13:08.840 --> 02:13:12.939 very tough parking lot to the first window, and I'm like, 2509 02:13:13.520 --> 02:13:15.869 why don't we just pay it here? I don't understand it. 2510 02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:18.739 So she walks towards the first window and I pull ahead. 2511 02:13:18.859 --> 02:13:20.539 I am not, I am not going to put up 2512 02:13:20.579 --> 02:13:23.420 with that. And so I just, uh, I bolted on him. 2513 02:13:23.600 --> 02:13:26.140 I did not get my breakfast. You just said, I'll 2514 02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:27.560 get breakfast somewhere else then. 2515 02:13:27.680 --> 02:13:27.819 Huh? 2516 02:13:27.979 --> 02:13:30.520 I don't understand the previous five times. And you know, 2517 02:13:30.560 --> 02:13:32.930 when you say second window, I, I, I give them, 2518 02:13:33.050 --> 02:13:36.609 you know, I usually, if they say second window, I 2519 02:13:36.630 --> 02:13:38.430 was at the first window for a good two minutes. 2520 02:13:38.470 --> 02:13:40.649 They weren't there. And so I pulled up to the 2521 02:13:40.689 --> 02:13:43.909 second window specifically because they said second window. And all 2522 02:13:43.930 --> 02:13:45.260 of a sudden they want me to go back to 2523 02:13:45.270 --> 02:13:46.069 the first window. 2524 02:13:46.100 --> 02:13:46.840 Nope. 2525 02:13:47.729 --> 02:13:50.420 I'm never going back to that location ever again. I'm devastated. 2526 02:13:50.739 --> 02:13:52.819 Yeah, that's terrible. That's terrible. 2527 02:13:52.939 --> 02:13:57.159 You cannot expect someone to back up in a drive-thru line. Thankfully, 2528 02:13:57.199 --> 02:13:58.340 there was no one behind you. 2529 02:13:58.380 --> 02:14:00.239 So I guess you... I guess you. 2530 02:14:00.100 --> 02:14:02.300 Technically could have, but I don't blame you for just 2531 02:14:02.340 --> 02:14:04.079 throwing your hands up and be like, I'll just, I'll 2532 02:14:04.119 --> 02:14:05.119 get breakfast somewhere else. 2533 02:14:05.600 --> 02:14:07.199 Now, if you go to a hundred drive-thrus, I mean, 2534 02:14:07.239 --> 02:14:09.199 how many do you actually pay at the first window? 2535 02:14:09.270 --> 02:14:11.550 Every McDonald's, it seems like you pay at the first window, 2536 02:14:11.569 --> 02:14:13.869 but that's universal. And you got somebody sitting there waiting 2537 02:14:13.909 --> 02:14:15.210 to take your cash. 2538 02:14:15.149 --> 02:14:17.350 In and out is always busy enough. 2539 02:14:17.430 --> 02:14:19.989 They got the, they got both windows there, but, but 2540 02:14:20.069 --> 02:14:22.750 nowadays it's like, those might be the only two. 2541 02:14:23.210 --> 02:14:24.989 If you want me to pay at the first window, 2542 02:14:25.020 --> 02:14:27.479 have somebody sitting there. And I was parked there for 2543 02:14:27.500 --> 02:14:29.199 a good two minutes as the person in front of 2544 02:14:29.220 --> 02:14:31.680 me was waiting for their order. You know, if you 2545 02:14:31.699 --> 02:14:33.319 wanted me to pay at the first window, have somebody 2546 02:14:33.359 --> 02:14:33.819 sitting there. 2547 02:14:33.840 --> 02:14:34.640 Take your payment. 2548 02:14:34.659 --> 02:14:36.460 I'll gladly give them some money and then give me 2549 02:14:36.520 --> 02:14:37.079 some change. 2550 02:14:37.560 --> 02:14:39.119 Yeah, that's annoying. Grievance. 2551 02:14:40.140 --> 02:14:44.430 Against you burger King and Tyson Whiting, you just lost 2552 02:14:44.489 --> 02:14:47.449 his business forever. So at least at that location, I 2553 02:14:47.470 --> 02:14:49.850 might go to a different location, a different burger King, 2554 02:14:49.890 --> 02:14:50.609 that location. 2555 02:14:50.649 --> 02:14:51.109 I'm sorry. 2556 02:14:51.289 --> 02:14:51.710 I'm sorry. 2557 02:14:51.770 --> 02:14:54.720 You will not be getting any of Tyson Whiting's life 2558 02:14:54.729 --> 02:14:59.000 savings anymore. Got some grievances coming in on the text line. 2559 02:15:00.239 --> 02:15:04.520 Let's see. Derek, our guy, Derek H who is a 2560 02:15:04.560 --> 02:15:08.359 daily texter for us. We love you, Derek grievance. All caps. 2561 02:15:08.560 --> 02:15:13.399 It's too early for Christmas music. Bunch of exclamation points. 2562 02:15:13.840 --> 02:15:16.399 I should not be hearing that stuff at Walmart or Target. 2563 02:15:16.500 --> 02:15:20.159 It's still October. You guys can wait a few weeks. 2564 02:15:20.779 --> 02:15:21.029 Yeah. 2565 02:15:21.989 --> 02:15:22.409 Listen. 2566 02:15:23.909 --> 02:15:26.569 When it comes to department stores or anything like that, 2567 02:15:26.850 --> 02:15:27.510 I agree with you. 2568 02:15:27.789 --> 02:15:28.569 Let's wait a little bit. 2569 02:15:29.399 --> 02:15:31.539 It's Halloween. This is Halloween music. 2570 02:15:31.600 --> 02:15:34.319 As far as like, there's people that complain about people 2571 02:15:34.420 --> 02:15:38.380 who listen to it on Spotify in the car too 2572 02:15:38.460 --> 02:15:42.550 early in their house too early. You guys that love 2573 02:15:42.590 -->

02:15:44.789 Christmas that much. And I'm happy to be married to 2574 02:15:44.829 --> 02:15:47.510 someone who loves Christmas that much that they'll, they'll turn 2575 02:15:47.529 --> 02:15:50.750 it on. My wife's not listening to it now. She 2576 02:15:50.789 --> 02:15:53.569 loves Halloween and Halloween music too much to do that, 2577 02:15:53.689 --> 02:15:57.630 but she's, you know, first of first of November, she's, 2578 02:15:58.539 --> 02:15:59.760 It's it's Christmas time. 2579 02:16:00.640 --> 02:16:02.399 Like we got to cool it. 2580 02:16:02.680 --> 02:16:04.899 On complaining about people who want to live their lives 2581 02:16:04.920 --> 02:16:07.550 that way, but publicly at department stores, you can wait 2582 02:16:07.850 --> 02:16:10.430 to play the Christmas music. I'm with you there on 2583 02:16:10.770 --> 02:16:13.369 I'm with you there, Derek on that. Uh, let's, let's 2584 02:16:13.409 --> 02:16:16.989 play some monster mash. Let's play some, uh, some Halloween tunes, 2585 02:16:17.029 --> 02:16:20.220 play some thriller. If you want to get festive until 2586 02:16:20.500 --> 02:16:23.079 at least until November 1st, I know a lot of 2587 02:16:23.100 --> 02:16:26.020 people are like, don't do it till after Thanksgiving, like whatever. 2588 02:16:26.039 --> 02:16:29.550 Um, Don't need to be hearing that in the department source. 2589 02:16:29.569 --> 02:16:31.829 Good grievance there by Derek. Especially when the temperature is 2590 02:16:32.049 --> 02:16:33.309 like 70 degrees today. 2591 02:16:33.329 --> 02:16:38.770 Yeah, that's true. It's nowhere near winter weather. Let's see. 2592 02:16:38.790 --> 02:16:46.389 Whoa, this is a long one here. From 1466. Thanks 2593 02:16:46.510 --> 02:16:49.579 to a different texter's comment last week, I've learned that 2594 02:16:49.610 --> 02:16:52.319 sometimes I might be the problem. So today I'm asking 2595 02:16:52.360 --> 02:16:55.100 for a ruling. I drive the carpool lane from Spanish 2596 02:16:55.120 --> 02:16:58.299 Fork to North Salt Lake doing... nine over the speed 2597 02:16:58.340 --> 02:17:01.069 limit because apparently 10 over is when the motorcycle cops 2598 02:17:01.079 --> 02:17:04.250 start getting interested but inevitably somebody gets on my right 2599 02:17:04.290 --> 02:17:07.090 bumper and stays there for miles it's like we're playing 2600 02:17:07.170 --> 02:17:10.229 chicken and they're convinced i'm going to blink first here's 2601 02:17:10.250 --> 02:17:13.250 my thinking i'm already breaking the law by going nine 2602 02:17:13.350 --> 02:17:15.530 over do i really need to break it by 15 2603 02:17:15.530 --> 02:17:18.190 just to make somebody behind me happy so am i 2604 02:17:18.229 --> 02:17:20.489 the problem should i move over or am i allowed 2605 02:17:20.530 --> 02:17:24.229 to enjoy my speeding at my own carefully calculated speed 2606 02:17:24.309 --> 02:17:29.020 so let's see You're in the carpool lane is what 2607 02:17:29.040 --> 02:17:32.879 you're saying. Going nine over. See, no, you are carpool 2608 02:17:32.920 --> 02:17:36.409 lane is not the fast lane. You can go like 2609 02:17:36.579 --> 02:17:38.670 you should be going the speed limit and you should 2610 02:17:38.709 --> 02:17:41.690 probably be going a little bit over the speed limit. 2611 02:17:41.729 --> 02:17:43.870 Like you are when you're on the, when you're on 2612 02:17:43.889 --> 02:17:47.690 the freeway, but you carpool lane is not the fast lane. 2613 02:17:47.790 --> 02:17:50.920 You do not have any obligation to, to even go 2614 02:17:51.090 --> 02:17:53.379 over the speed limit in the carpool lane. You can 2615 02:17:53.420 --> 02:17:55.120 go as fast as you want in the carpool lane. 2616 02:17:55.180 --> 02:17:57.459 If you're in the left lane, get out of there. 2617 02:17:58.239 --> 02:18:00.620 That's a passing lane. That's for people who want to 2618 02:18:00.659 --> 02:18:03.360 go 20, 30 miles over and camp in there going 2619 02:18:03.399 --> 02:18:03.959 that fast. 2620 02:18:04.040 --> 02:18:04.280 Okay. 2621 02:18:04.870 --> 02:18:07.389 If that's not you, which it probably shouldn't be anybody, 2622 02:18:07.909 --> 02:18:09.969 to be honest with you, then you need to get 2623 02:18:10.030 --> 02:18:10.989 out of the fast lane. 2624 02:18:11.030 --> 02:18:13.530 That's the left lane. Carpool lane is not the fast lane. 2625 02:18:15.329 --> 02:18:16.209 They got to get out. 2626 02:18:16.370 --> 02:18:17.889 They got to move and get out in front of 2627 02:18:17.930 --> 02:18:20.190 you if they don't like the speed you're going. 2628 02:18:20.290 --> 02:18:21.250 That's my take on that. 2629 02:18:21.270 --> 02:18:23.069 There's a lot of people that think the carpool lane 2630 02:18:23.209 --> 02:18:27.010 is the fast lane. They almost think that, all right, 2631 02:18:27.030 --> 02:18:28.950 I'm in the carpool lane. That means I should just 2632 02:18:28.989 --> 02:18:30.690 be able to fly down the freeway at 15 over. 2633 02:18:31.739 --> 02:18:33.840 And they get very upset when somebody's going nine over. 2634 02:18:33.879 --> 02:18:36.389 The carpool lane is the far left lane, but you 2635 02:18:36.420 --> 02:18:39.649 know that it's got the double lines there? It's a 2636 02:18:39.770 --> 02:18:42.829 different lane than the other four or five, depending on 2637 02:18:42.850 --> 02:18:46.549 where you are. You get to go about as fast 2638 02:18:46.590 --> 02:18:48.309 as you want in the carpool lane. So, no, you 2639 02:18:48.389 --> 02:18:52.399 are not the problem, Texter 1466. It's the people behind you. 2640 02:18:53.459 --> 02:18:56.079 It's the people playing chicken with you. You're the problem. 2641 02:18:56.200 --> 02:18:59.200 Stop it. If you want to go faster, you've got 2642 02:18:59.229 --> 02:19:01.329 to get out of the carpool lane and pass the 2643 02:19:01.350 --> 02:19:03.049 slower person in front of you in the carpool lane. 2644 02:19:03.069 --> 02:19:05.370 If

you want to go faster in the carpool lane, 2645 02:19:05.389 --> 02:19:07.110 that's what you've got to do. That's the rules of 2646 02:19:07.129 --> 02:19:14.270 the carpool lane. Jace Babka, friend of the show, grievance 2647 02:19:14.309 --> 02:19:16.829 for sports outlets or people who cover teams just throwing 2648 02:19:16.870 --> 02:19:20.209 out the most insane obscure stats of all time. Most 2649 02:19:20.270 --> 02:19:22.670 rushing yards on the second Saturday of October when it's 2650 02:19:22.709 --> 02:19:24.790 raining and flags are at half mass after being. 2651 02:19:24.629 --> 02:19:25.510 Two years sober. 2652 02:19:26.649 --> 02:19:31.250 Absolutely. Biggest game when it's raining on a Tuesday. 2653 02:19:32.719 --> 02:19:38.000 First home run when it's sunny on a Saturday morning. Yeah, 2654 02:19:38.020 --> 02:19:42.139 these are these are ridiculous, obscure stats. That's a valid 2655 02:19:42.159 --> 02:19:45.139 grievance by you, Jason. It's a we say hello to 2656 02:19:45.159 --> 02:19:48.040 you and the family. Uh, Spencer, I'm Gen Z and I'm, 2657 02:19:48.299 --> 02:19:50.459 and I'm with you on AirPods. I see so many 2658 02:19:50.520 --> 02:19:53.239 people making calls with biking slash running. And I'm just 2659 02:19:53.299 --> 02:19:55.659 wondering how the recipient of the call isn't pissed listening 2660 02:19:55.700 --> 02:19:58.520 to the heavy breathing and loud talking combo. 2661 02:19:58.799 --> 02:19:59.219 LOL. 2662 02:19:59.340 --> 02:20:03.979 Yeah. Let's just, just disconnect and exercise people. It should 2663 02:20:04.020 --> 02:20:06.639 not be that hard. Thank you, Spencer. And it's great 2664 02:20:06.680 --> 02:20:08.360 to hear that and refreshing to hear that from a 2665 02:20:08.399 --> 02:20:11.379 Gen Z. Maybe it's the generation younger than Gen Z. 2666 02:20:11.440 --> 02:20:14.989 Maybe it's not you guys that are doing this, uh, Spencer. Um, 2667 02:20:16.500 --> 02:20:20.399 So I appreciate you. It should not be that big 2668 02:20:20.440 --> 02:20:22.110 a deal to disconnect for a few minutes at a 2669 02:20:22.149 --> 02:20:25.649 time when you're exercising, for crying out loud. A couple 2670 02:20:25.690 --> 02:20:28.870 more here, and then we will get to crosstalk with 2671 02:20:28.889 --> 02:20:30.809 Spence Checketts and hand it over to the drive for 2672 02:20:30.829 --> 02:20:35.590 the day. Grievance with Bo Nix. This is from 1943. 2673 02:20:35.579 --> 02:20:38.239 I don't usually stress watch my Broncos the way I 2674 02:20:38.260 --> 02:20:40.770 do with Utah, mainly because I don't care as much 2675 02:20:41.069 --> 02:20:45.809 about NFL, but last night he looked absolutely awful. Also 2676 02:20:45.870 --> 02:20:49.250 glad Peyton has taken over offensive play calling, and I 2677 02:20:49.290 --> 02:20:51.489 hope Bo can get it right before the playoffs because 2678 02:20:51.549 --> 02:20:56.100 as good as the defense is, they still need to score. 2679 02:20:56.120 -->

02:21:00.000 I came in with a bit of a take here 2680 02:21:00.040 --> 02:21:04.299 that I'm not quite sure about, I'm not 100% confident in, 2681 02:21:04.319 --> 02:21:06.520 but this is how I'm feeling anyway. I'm starting to 2682 02:21:06.600 --> 02:21:11.180 think that Bo Nix is the new Jimmy Garoppolo. Remember 2683 02:21:11.239 --> 02:21:15.690 how much hope that everyone had for Jimmy G as 2684 02:21:15.750 --> 02:21:19.290 Tom Brady's backup? He's the future for the Patriots, and 2685 02:21:19.329 --> 02:21:20.409 then he gets traded. 2686 02:21:20.149 --> 02:21:21.110 To San Francisco. 2687 02:21:21.629 --> 02:21:26.209 They go undefeated at the end of his first season 2688 02:21:26.270 --> 02:21:29.629 after he's traded to the Niners. They finish that year undefeated, 2689 02:21:29.670 --> 02:21:31.590 and there's all this hope about Jimmy G is going 2690 02:21:31.610 --> 02:21:33.989 to be a superstar, and then he's just Jimmy G. 2691 02:21:34.610 --> 02:21:38.389 I think Bo Nix, not that people have thought that 2692 02:21:38.409 --> 02:21:40.049 Bo Nix was going to be a superstar, but I 2693 02:21:40.110 --> 02:21:43.239 feel like we've had higher hopes, especially with them getting 2694 02:21:43.280 --> 02:21:46.459 to the AFC championship game last year, the playoffs the 2695 02:21:46.500 --> 02:21:50.440 last two years since he got drafted. I feel like 2696 02:21:50.479 --> 02:21:53.799 there was an elevated expectation for Bo Nix, and yet 2697 02:21:53.879 --> 02:21:57.719 he's playing more like Jimmy G. He's playing a lot 2698 02:21:57.760 --> 02:22:00.819 more like Jimmy G than someone that we expect that 2699 02:22:00.840 --> 02:22:03.299 we've expected Bo Nix to play like. 2700 02:22:03.379 --> 02:22:04.500 So I don't know. 2701 02:22:05.290 --> 02:22:07.510 Maybe that's too early to say something like that. But 2702 02:22:07.950 --> 02:22:10.030 Broncos fans, you might be dealing with the Jimmy G 2703 02:22:10.069 --> 02:22:10.829 of the NFL now. 2704 02:22:12.190 --> 02:22:12.700 Last one. 2705 02:22:12.709 --> 02:22:14.969 And then we're going to have to break Adam on 2706 02:22:15.010 --> 02:22:17.370 the text line grievance. I know this is nothing new, 2707 02:22:17.430 --> 02:22:20.200 but why is it totally acceptable for doctors to be 2708 02:22:20.200 --> 02:22:23.319 30 plus minutes late for routine scheduled appointments? 2709 02:22:23.979 --> 02:22:24.899 I'm tired of waiting. 2710 02:22:25.399 --> 02:22:29.139 An hour to fit my 10-minute appointment. Figure it out, 2711 02:22:29.379 --> 02:22:37.139 Intermountain Health. Yeah, Seinfeld called it two waiting rooms in 2712 02:22:37.159 --> 02:22:39.700 the doctor's office, right? You have the big waiting room 2713 02:22:39.719 --> 02:22:42.540 with other people in it. You're waiting to be called back, 2714 02:22:42.780 --> 02:22:44.540 and then they call you back, and you sit in 2715 02:22:44.559 --> 02:22:47.860 the smaller waiting room, which is the examination room for another, 2716 02:22:47.879 --> 02:22:51.059 it feels like the same amount of time. Yeah, I 2717 02:22:51.079 --> 02:22:53.520 don't know why that's the norm, but I'm with you. 2718 02:22:54.500 --> 02:22:57.700 I'm with you, Adam. If we could just be a 2719 02:22:57.719 --> 02:23:01.780 little more prompt. If we could just get these routine appointments. 2720 02:23:01.379 --> 02:23:02.760 In a lot quicker. I don't know. 2721 02:23:02.799 --> 02:23:07.180 Maybe they're patient loads every day. Maybe there's a plausible 2722 02:23:07.219 --> 02:23:10.420 reason why. But it does feel like it could be 2723 02:23:10.440 --> 02:23:11.040 a lot quicker. 2724 02:23:11.780 --> 02:23:12.079 All right. 2725 02:23:12.219 --> 02:23:16.649 Appreciate those grievances. I feel a lot more unburdened. Tyson, 2726 02:23:16.680 --> 02:23:17.670 I hope you do, too. 2727 02:23:17.680 --> 02:23:23.610 I'm just never going back to that location again. Maybe 2728 02:23:23.639 --> 02:23:25.680 I should have backed up and just went to window one. 2729 02:23:27.280 --> 02:23:29.159 I don't blame you for not doing it. That's a 2730 02:23:29.180 --> 02:23:30.139 ridiculous thing to do. 2731 02:23:31.239 --> 02:23:34.379 And I hope all of you listening, especially those that 2732 02:23:34.420 --> 02:23:39.340 texted in, feel unburdened heading into a big sports weekend. 2733 02:23:40.500 --> 02:23:42.780 Real quick before we break, just want to remind you, 2734 02:23:42.920 --> 02:23:45.180 speaking of big sports weekend, some of the top games 2735 02:23:45.219 --> 02:23:47.540 happening this weekend. Tonight on the station, we have the 2736 02:23:47.659 --> 02:23:50.909 game four of the ALCS game. Guardians hosting the Rays, 2737 02:23:51.010 --> 02:23:54.629 Cleveland up 2-1. That starts at 5.30 with pregame coverage. 2738 02:23:54.629 --> 02:23:58.430 6 o'clock around there is first pitch here on your 2739 02:23:58.450 --> 02:23:59.590 home of the MLB playoffs. 2740 02:24:00.129 --> 02:24:00.309 No. 2741 02:24:00.309 --> 02:24:03.790 11 Utah at Colorado, 8.15 kick. We've got 10 hours 2742 02:24:03.829 --> 02:24:05.950 of game day coverage for you as we do every 2743 02:24:06.569 --> 02:24:09.950 Utes game day. Begins at 4.15 with Porter Larson in 2744 02:24:09.969 --> 02:24:14.489 the pregame show. We also have tomorrow No. 7 Texas 2745 02:24:14.530 --> 02:24:18.270 hosting Florida at 10 a.m. right after Utah Golf Radio. 2746 02:24:18.809 --> 02:24:22.569 here on your home for football. The Mammoth are hosting 2747 02:24:22.590 --> 02:24:25.590 the Oilers tomorrow night, 8 o'clock on Utah 16 and 2748 02:24:25.610 --> 02:24:28.829 Mammoth Plus. They just beat Connor McDavid and company 4-2 2749 02:24:28.899 --> 02:24:32.180 last night in Edmonton. You got the big noon kickoff game, 2750 02:24:32.239 --> 02:24:34.920 number four Ohio State at number five Indiana. 2751 02:24:35.020 --> 02:24:36.100 That's at 10 a.m. 2752 02:24:36.500 --> 02:24:37.100 On Fox. 2753

02:24:37.579 --> 02:24:41.399 Sunday night football, Cowboys at Packers just after 6, about 2754 02:24:41.420 --> 02:24:45.079 6-20 kickoff on NBC. A lot on the line for 2755 02:24:45.120 --> 02:24:47.889 both teams, so could be the difference between staying in 2756 02:24:47.909 --> 02:24:50.620 the playoff picture, even though this, even this early in 2757 02:24:50.639 --> 02:24:52.860 the season and falling out of the playoff picture. And 2758 02:24:52.879 --> 02:24:56.659 then Tyler Huntley getting his second straight start for the Ravens. 2759 02:24:56.700 --> 02:25:00.379 They're taking on Spencer Fano and the Browns in Cleveland 2760 02:25:00.780 --> 02:25:03.870 to Utes going, uh, head to head, although they won't 2761 02:25:03.909 --> 02:25:05.850 be on the field at the same time. That's at 2762 02:25:05.850 --> 02:25:09.809 11 AM on Fox, hopefully on it's the local game 2763 02:25:09.969 --> 02:25:13.549 here on Fox 13. Um, And then it's October, guys, 2764 02:25:13.569 --> 02:25:15.350 so it's time to take in one of Utah's most 2765 02:25:15.579 --> 02:25:18.559 iconic haunted houses, Nightmare on 13th on the corner of 2766 02:25:18.719 --> 02:25:21.440 3rd West and 13th South, and take advantage of this 2767 02:25:21.500 --> 02:25:26.079 special offer only available to ESPN 700 listeners. Use promo 2768 02:25:26.120 --> 02:25:30.450 code ESPN700 to save $ 6 on tickets. That's $ 6 on 2769 02:25:30.610 --> 02:25:35.110 each ticket. That's a huge deal. And tune into The 2770 02:25:35.170 --> 02:25:38.129 Drive with Spence Checketts. This is your last day to 2771 02:25:38.170 --> 02:25:40.909 win tickets, a four-pack of tickets to Nightmare on 13th. 2772 02:25:40.930 --> 02:25:41.260 Good luck. 2773 02:25:41.909 --> 02:25:46.270 Any day in October. All right. Cross talk. 2774 02:25:46.290 --> 02:25:48.329 And then we'll hand it over to Spence check. It's 2775 02:25:49.079 --> 02:25:51.659 next in about three minutes on the Sean O'Connell show, 2776 02:25:51.719 --> 02:25:54.440 James Peterson, filling in on Utah's number one sports talk 2777 02:25:54.500 --> 02:25:57.559 and your home of the UTS ESPN, 700 and 92, 2778 02:25:57.559 --> 02:25:58.100 one FM. 2779 02:25:58.920 --> 02:26:03.600 You're listening to the Sean O'Connell show from the Murdoch 2780 02:26:03.659 --> 02:26:06.190 Hyundai studio of ESPN, 700 and 92, one FM. 2781 02:26:11.309 --> 02:26:16.040 All right, winding down a Friday, Football Friday, Sean O'Connell show, 2782 02:26:16.100 --> 02:26:18.860 James Peterson sitting in for O.C. 2783 02:26:18.959 --> 02:26:19.940 Yet again, O.C. 2784 02:26:19.959 --> 02:26:23.959 Will be back Monday, though, back from his PFL assignment 2785 02:26:24.040 --> 02:26:24.700 in Chicago. 2786 02:26:24.760 --> 02:26:26.540 By the way, you can watch O.C. 2787 02:26:26.600 --> 02:26:29.659 Call those fights starting at 4 o'clock two hours from 2788 02:26:29.700 --> 02:26:33.250 now on ESPN +. I think it moves to when 2789 02:26:33.260 --> 02:26:37.309 the main card happens around 9, it moves to ESPN2, so. 2790 02:26:37.149 --> 02:26:37.750 Be sure to check. 2791 02:26:38.270 --> 02:26:41.850 OC out and the PFL out on the ESPN networks 2792 02:26:41.969 --> 02:26:43.629 tonight from Chicago. 2793 02:26:43.649 --> 02:26:46.420 He'll be back on Monday. I got Spence check. 2794 02:26:46.430 --> 02:26:48.920 It's in studio for cross talk before we hand it 2795 02:26:48.950 --> 02:26:50.120 over to the drive. 2796 02:26:50.159 --> 02:26:50.840 Spence, how are you? 2797 02:26:50.860 --> 02:26:54.840 I'm good, man. Glad that it's Friday. Glad that it's sunny. 2798 02:26:55.260 --> 02:26:57.579 Ready to play some mediocre golf this weekend and hopefully 2799 02:26:57.620 --> 02:26:58.739 watch a lot of really good football. 2800 02:26:59.059 --> 02:27:00.579 Where are you? Where's your tea time? 2801 02:27:01.379 --> 02:27:01.819 Bonneville. 2802 02:27:01.920 --> 02:27:02.559 Always Bonneville. 2803 02:27:02.579 --> 02:27:03.079 Always Bonnie. 2804 02:27:03.440 --> 02:27:03.860 Yeah. 2805 02:27:04.079 --> 02:27:05.780 If I hit the lights right, I can get there 2806 02:27:05.819 --> 02:27:06.760 in seven minutes. 2807 02:27:07.040 --> 02:27:07.239 Okay. 2808 02:27:07.489 --> 02:27:09.379 So, I mean, I like to go up to Mountain Dell, 2809 02:27:10.780 --> 02:27:15.540 you know, just mostly the local city courses, some beautiful 2810 02:27:15.579 --> 02:27:18.379 courses up north, Bountiful Ridge, Valley View. I need to 2811 02:27:18.420 --> 02:27:21.020 get down to Hobble Creek down south before the snow flies. 2812 02:27:21.809 --> 02:27:24.190 I'm trying to take advantage of every sunny day we 2813 02:27:24.229 --> 02:27:27.049 have because most people that are experts in weather, which 2814 02:27:27.110 --> 02:27:31.170 I'm not, believe that we're actually getting snow. So the 2815 02:27:31.209 --> 02:27:34.120 golf course is actually, I think I played, I think 2816 02:27:34.159 --> 02:27:35.739 I played around last year and every month. 2817 02:27:36.399 --> 02:27:36.760 Okay. 2818 02:27:36.940 --> 02:27:39.719 December, January played like five times in February. 2819 02:27:39.940 --> 02:27:41.739 Well, I mean, it was a lot more mild last 2820 02:27:41.780 --> 02:27:45.139 year too. So a lot better chance of doing that 2821 02:27:45.319 --> 02:27:48.180 last year. Maybe we have a real winter this year 2822 02:27:48.219 --> 02:27:50.680 and won't have as many chances, but that's, that's great. 2823 02:27:51.479 --> 02:27:55.079 So BYU, Notre Dame, I said earlier, I just have 2824 02:27:55.139 --> 02:27:57.959 nothing more to say about Colorado, Utah. 2825 02:27:58.200 --> 02:27:59.280 Just go win Utah. 2826 02:28:00.030 --> 02:28:04.040 Obviously, what we talked about yesterday, can you perfect some 2827 02:28:04.059 --> 02:28:07.020 of these things that have not been ideal? And we 2828 02:28:07.059 --> 02:28:10.600 talked about those things yesterday in crosstalk, too. I don't 2829

02:28:10.620 --> 02:28:12.379 think we need to talk much more about that. Just 2830 02:28:12.399 --> 02:28:17.069 go win and don't get got before a big Houston game. 2831 02:28:17.889 --> 02:28:22.930 So BYU-Notre Dame, top 10 matchup, could end up being 2832 02:28:23.690 --> 02:28:27.930 the biggest win in BYU history in Provo if they're 2833 02:28:27.950 --> 02:28:30.680 able to pull off this upset. But it's a 10.5 2834 02:28:30.680 --> 02:28:33.260 And if you. 2835 02:28:33.139 --> 02:28:35.180 Look at the stats, if you look at the fact 2836 02:28:35.200 --> 02:28:35.659 that L.J. 2837 02:28:35.719 --> 02:28:39.399 Martin is out, it's not hard to see why Vegas 2838 02:28:40.139 --> 02:28:43.420 likes Notre Dame that much. I still think BYU probably 2839 02:28:43.479 --> 02:28:47.020 makes it a one-score game, but I don't have much 2840 02:28:47.120 --> 02:28:50.780 problem with the line because BYU is compromised health-wise, even 2841 02:28:50.799 --> 02:28:54.350 though they're getting healthier, and Notre Dame just appears to 2842 02:28:54.389 --> 02:28:57.329 be that good. How much of a chance do you 2843 02:28:57.430 --> 02:28:58.870 give BYU without L.J. 2844 02:28:58.909 --> 02:28:59.049 Martin? 2845 02:28:59.659 --> 02:29:00.440 To win or to cover? 2846 02:29:00.459 --> 02:29:01.100 To win this game. 2847 02:29:02.379 --> 02:29:03.180 Not a great one. 2848 02:29:03.479 --> 02:29:06.010 I wouldn't be stunned. That's a really tough place to 2849 02:29:06.049 --> 02:29:07.469 play at night for teams. 2850 02:29:07.850 --> 02:29:10.610 And it's still a great BYU defense that's going to 2851 02:29:10.649 --> 02:29:11.409 keep them in the game. 2852 02:29:11.489 --> 02:29:13.930 Yeah, and they've done such a good job with that 2853 02:29:13.969 --> 02:29:17.770 game day experience. The stadium is crazy when it's a 2854 02:29:17.809 --> 02:29:20.559 night game, much like here at Rice-Eccles Stadium. I think 2855 02:29:20.590 --> 02:29:23.639 BYU is 15 and one in their last 16 games 2856 02:29:23.680 --> 02:29:25.360 that have kicked off after five. 2857 02:29:25.780 --> 02:29:26.100 Oh, wow. 2858 02:29:26.159 --> 02:29:29.479 They just play there. They're like demons at night. And 2859 02:29:29.600 --> 02:29:33.620 Utah is too. It's just, it's a weird deal. Notre 2860 02:29:33.639 --> 02:29:36.979 Dame on paper is as talented as any team in 2861 02:29:37.020 --> 02:29:40.319 college football. And over the past couple of days, I've 2862 02:29:40.360 --> 02:29:44.600 listened to countless college football shows. I've, I've heard one 2863 02:29:44.739 --> 02:29:47.600 person pick BYU to win. Oh, and he has a 2864 02:29:47.719 --> 02:29:50.040 big 12 centric podcast. So it felt a little like, 2865 02:29:50.469 --> 02:29:53.350 But I've heard several people pick BYU to cover. 2866 02:29:53.969 --> 02:29:55.090 And that's kind of where I'm at. 2867 02:29:55.209 --> 02:30:00.629 I could see like a 21-17, 24-21 Notre Dame win. 2868 02:30:00.950 --> 02:30:03.569 The problem is the way Notre Dame is built. I mean, 2869 02:30:03.590 --> 02:30:05.930 everybody talks about CJ Carr. Marcus Freeman is the type 2870 02:30:05.969 --> 02:30:09.879 of coach that if he's up, if BYU gets off 2871 02:30:09.920 --> 02:30:12.860 to a tough start and Notre Dame's up like 14-0, 2872 02:30:13.860 --> 02:30:15.600 Marcus Freeman will sit on the ball and kill the 2873 02:30:15.639 --> 02:30:18.319 clock and just choke you until you die. He's not 2874 02:30:18.360 --> 02:30:21.079 a style point guy. He just wants to win, and 2875 02:30:21.120 --> 02:30:23.049 he'll do it in any way, shape, or form. And 2876 02:30:23.069 --> 02:30:29.670 to your point about BYU's defense, you always have to 2877 02:30:29.709 --> 02:30:31.850 talk about whether or not Notre Dame's schedule gives us 2878 02:30:31.930 --> 02:30:33.870 a fair view of who they are, because BYU's been 2879 02:30:33.930 --> 02:30:35.530 tested in a way Notre Dame hasn't. 2880 02:30:35.750 --> 02:30:36.229 That's true. 2881 02:30:36.870 --> 02:30:39.790 Arizona's a good team. Noah Fede is a good quarterback. 2882 02:30:39.850 --> 02:30:42.229 Arizona's one of the top three offenses in the Big 12, 2883 02:30:42.229 --> 02:30:45.069 and BYU shut them out in the second half. And 2884 02:30:45.110 --> 02:30:47.370 I don't think Iowa State is a pushover. I don't 2885 02:30:47.389 --> 02:30:52.129 think they're great. So, The numbers right now are tough 2886 02:30:52.149 --> 02:30:54.829 to lean into, but both BYU and Notre Dame have 2887 02:30:54.870 --> 02:30:57.510 a top 10 defense in more or less every metric 2888 02:30:57.549 --> 02:31:00.450 that matters. Now, in most metrics that matter, Notre Dame 2889 02:31:00.489 --> 02:31:03.790 is either 1, 2, or 3, and BYU is like 6, 7, 2890 02:31:03.790 --> 02:31:07.569 or 8. Overall defense, BYU is 7, Notre Dame is 1. 2891 02:31:07.569 --> 02:31:09.350 Notre Dame, over the past three weeks, has started to 2892 02:31:09.370 --> 02:31:12.649 run the ball more with a Jonas Walton kid to 2893 02:31:12.690 --> 02:31:16.329 take some pressure off of CJ Carr. The problem is, 2894 02:31:16.709 --> 02:31:19.030 for BYU the way I see it, is Bears are 2895 02:31:19.049 --> 02:31:21.629 going to have to throw it And there are four 2896 02:31:21.790 --> 02:31:26.149 NFL dudes in that defensive backfield. And, you know, outside 2897 02:31:26.190 --> 02:31:29.190 of the Glasgow kid, the legend Glasgow kid, there hasn't 2898 02:31:29.209 --> 02:31:31.250 been a ton of, I know the Kyler Casper kid 2899 02:31:31.270 --> 02:31:33.469 has had some moments and they've got some decent tight ends, 2900 02:31:35.069 --> 02:31:37.850 but in order for them to allow the run game 2901 02:31:37.879 --> 02:31:39.399 to open up a little bit, they're going to have 2902 02:31:39.430 --> 02:31:40.879 to throw it. And I don't think they can against 2903 02:31:40.920 --> 02:31:43.159 the secondary. So I wouldn't be stunned if it was 2904

02:31:43.200 --> 02:31:46.079 a low scoring game and BYU covers. I have a 2905 02:31:46.120 --> 02:31:47.540 hard time seeing them win the game though. 2906 02:31:47.799 --> 02:31:48.040 Yeah. 2907 02:31:48.239 --> 02:31:50.760 If Sione Moa, can play. 2908 02:31:50.879 --> 02:31:51.979 Is he available? 2909 02:31:52.200 --> 02:31:55.920 He's been, it seems like he's been medically cleared, but 2910 02:31:56.219 --> 02:31:58.420 they may, they haven't said he's going to play or 2911 02:31:58.459 --> 02:32:00.829 not yet. So maybe he's not ready to play, but 2912 02:32:00.889 --> 02:32:03.709 he can physically play. It might be the situation. If 2913 02:32:03.750 --> 02:32:07.090 he plays, that'll be huge for BYU because he's not 2914 02:32:07.190 --> 02:32:10.170 LJ Martin, but he's your second string running back, not 2915 02:32:10.190 --> 02:32:10.889 your third or fourth. 2916 02:32:11.110 --> 02:32:11.309 Right. 2917 02:32:12.069 --> 02:32:14.090 I still don't think that's going to be enough for 2918 02:32:14.139 --> 02:32:19.209 BYU to pull off this upset at home. Um, But yeah, 2919 02:32:19.530 --> 02:32:21.770 I would love it if BYU goes out and proves 2920 02:32:21.829 --> 02:32:25.569 us wrong. It just feels like they're dealing with a 2921 02:32:26.090 --> 02:32:28.930 team that's just at even a higher level than they 2922 02:32:29.049 --> 02:32:33.520 are in Notre Dame. But we'll see. 5.30 kickoff on 2923 02:32:33.579 --> 02:32:37.579 ABC tomorrow. Game day starting at 7 a.m. in Provo. 2924 02:32:37.659 --> 02:32:44.540 That'll be exciting. Any grievances, Spence, on this Friday? Grievance 2925 02:32:44.600 --> 02:32:48.329 with my shoulder and neck. I have a neck kink 2926 02:32:48.629 --> 02:32:49.430 that for two weeks. 2927 02:32:49.510 --> 02:32:50.670 I've heard you talking about that. 2928 02:32:50.690 --> 02:32:52.209 Dude, it won't go away. I've tried everything. 2929 02:32:52.350 --> 02:32:53.629 And Porter's not been very helpful. 2930 02:32:53.670 --> 02:32:56.129 Porter's not helpful with anything ever, no matter what. 2931 02:32:56.329 --> 02:32:56.909 Just stretch. 2932 02:32:57.129 --> 02:33:00.540 But I've stretched. I did the yoga thing, hot compress, 2933 02:33:00.559 --> 02:33:03.819 cold compress last night. Got a little massage this morning. 2934 02:33:03.840 --> 02:33:05.000 Did nothing. Nothing. 2935 02:33:05.100 --> 02:33:07.420 I don't know what's going on, man. So that's my 2936 02:33:07.459 --> 02:33:10.620 biggest grievance right now. I'm in constant physical pain. And 2937 02:33:10.680 --> 02:33:13.209 as my mama likes to say, it's hard to be 2938 02:33:13.250 --> 02:33:14.729 yourself when you don't feel like yourself. 2939 02:33:14.909 --> 02:33:15.069 Yeah. 2940 02:33:15.670 --> 02:33:17.670 I've got my words. I've got my little massage ball 2941 02:33:17.690 --> 02:33:20.309 in the bag. So for our viewers on YouTube today, 2942 02:33:20.329 --> 02:33:22.090 you're going to be seeing me on the ground stretching 2943 02:33:22.110 --> 02:33:24.370 during breaks. If you want to tune in, I did 2944 02:33:24.409 --> 02:33:26.629 get my Halloween costume done this morning. 2945 02:33:26.930 --> 02:33:27.940 Was it Ted Lasso? 2946 02:33:28.000 --> 02:33:29.700 It is. I'm going to just get it. 2947 02:33:30.219 --> 02:33:32.600 It's low hanging fruit because I have to go. I 2948 02:33:32.600 --> 02:33:35.440 have a Halloween party tomorrow and it's with my RSL people. 2949 02:33:35.600 --> 02:33:37.440 So I might just do a soccer thing, you know, 2950 02:33:37.579 --> 02:33:40.809 so got that done, taken care of and Yeah, man, 2951 02:33:40.840 --> 02:33:41.600 excited for the weekend. 2952 02:33:41.620 --> 02:33:43.069 It's going to be beautiful weather and a lot of 2953 02:33:43.090 --> 02:33:43.510 good football. 2954 02:33:43.690 --> 02:33:47.090 Yeah, the other great game, other great top ten game 2955 02:33:47.110 --> 02:33:50.309 with my Buckeyes in Indiana should be great on big 2956 02:33:50.350 --> 02:33:53.110 noon kickoff. We got baseball on the station tonight, so 2957 02:33:53.209 --> 02:33:56.629 what a great time. We say it every October, maybe 2958 02:33:56.649 --> 02:33:58.049 the best month in sports. 2959 02:33:58.129 --> 02:34:00.930 No doubt. It should be a lot of fun this weekend. Thanks, Spence. 2960 02:34:00.989 --> 02:34:01.889 Good to see you, James. 2961 02:34:02.250 --> 02:34:04.790 We will hand it over to Spence next. This has 2962 02:34:04.809 --> 02:34:08.090 been the Sean O'Connell Show. OC is back Monday. It's 2963 02:34:08.129 --> 02:34:11.209 been a lot of fun filling in for OC, and 2964 02:34:11.870 --> 02:34:15.639 we hope he has safe travels from Chicago after tonight's fights. 2965 02:34:16.020 --> 02:34:18.520 This has been the Sean O'Connell Show with me, James Peterson. 2966 02:34:19.379 --> 02:34:21.500 The Drive with Spence Chekits is next here on Utah's 2967 02:34:21.520 --> 02:34:22.799 number one sports talk, ESPN 700, 92.1 FM.