Full Transcript for 🤠 Do Folk Heroes Still Exist? The History & Importance of Folk Heroes + Top 5 American Folk Heroes | Ep. 443

we're into here. Roger Clemmons obviously the rocket. 81 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:26.479 I mean, look, yes, Clemens had to go via Toronto, 82 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:29.159 so it's not like he jumped ships straight there. But 83 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:31.360 uh still still well. 84 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:33.199 I think what it is is everybody plays for the 85 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:37.199 Red Sox, such a storied institution in baseball and baseball history, 86 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:41.520 that you play, but you want you all baseball players 87 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.919 want to achieve greatness, and you're never going to make 88 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:46.319 it at that level. You got to step up to 89 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:48.280 the next level or really make it great. 90 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:50.719 You haven't even won one in a while. You know, 91 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:54.159 they're barely making playoffs. I don't want to hear that. Now. 92 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.639 Want to say that about the Dodgers. The Dodgers are 93 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:59.000 pretty storied. If we're going from the seventies on, I'll 94 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:00.000 give you the Dodgers. 95 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.319 First of all. The Yankees won plenty since the seventies 96 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:06.280 and they're taking a break. They're like, you know what, 97 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:08.840 we got the most good. We're gonna take a little 98 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.240 time off. We're gonna let other teams know what it's like. 99 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.680 So they get a little big in their britches, and 100 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:15.120 I'd like to say they're going to come back, but 101 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:18.360 with this private equity, I don't know, destroys my soul. 102 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:22.519 I'm pretty annoyed by it. I've really always liked when 103 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:25.879 it was the families against family. It was inevitable. Of 104 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:27.759 course it was going to happen, and it's going to 105 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:30.439 continue happening, and it's just going to be steady down 106 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.639 the line of outside influences coming into the things we 107 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:34.560 love and destroying them. 108 00:04:34.639 --> 00:04:36.360 Well, that's why we need to give up on them 109 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:39.319 and quit them all and let them burn and destroy. 110 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:40.160 And start our own. 111 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:44.519 Yeah, exactly, I guarantee you if we restarted today, but 112 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.160 none of the money, right, We're just like we're gonna 113 00:04:47.199 --> 00:04:49.680 start like we did back in the day, just adult teams. 114 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:53.079 See how it goes. Sponsors will pay for it, whatever 115 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.480 it is, like us our businesses, things like that. I 116 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:59.120 don't even think the guys that are on the teams 117 00:04:59.160 --> 00:04:59.959 now would make it. 118 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:05.439 Wow, that's a that's a bold statement. I don't know. 119 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:08.920 I'd like to believe that obviously coming over to our squad, 120 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.360 you know, maybe we could call the XLB because any 121 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.160 team that's any league that's ever used X has always 122 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.439 worked out great, So we should get white SOX or 123 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:23.759 the USLB, the L Yeah, XLB, I just got it. 124 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:28.000 Some of them perfect. 125 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:31.560 I forgot. I can't curse on this show either, or 126 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:33.519 I have to spin the punishment wheel. And I already 127 00:05:33.519 --> 00:05:35.279 watched my punishment movie for the week. 128 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.680 Well, it looks like you've got hope floats coming your way. 129 00:05:38.839 --> 00:05:41.120 That's not on the list yet. Well, it can be 130 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:45.240 added at a reserve amount. I gotta be real good. 131 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:46.519 I gotta be real good tonight. 132 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.360 And you on your list? What is on the wheel? 133 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:50.600 Curiously if you do. 134 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:53.279 Swear all right, first off, let me put the new 135 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.000 list on there because I had to take some stum 136 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.560 some stuff off, and then I will read it to you. 137 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:01.800 All right, what you're deal with, because as long as 138 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:04.279 it's not Angel Studios movies, you should be okay. 139 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:07.040 No, I won't even watch those. Those aren't even like 140 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:11.399 luxuriously stupid for me. We've watched a lot of Christian 141 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:15.360 films perpetually. On the list is always going to be 142 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:17.439 the sound of music. That was my son's edition. He's like, 143 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:19.639 you're never going to stop cursing unless sound of music 144 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:21.319 is just on the list all the time. 145 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:24.079 I mean that's fair. Yeah, because for the threat of 146 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:26.079 you having to watch a movie that you despise, it's 147 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:27.920 like me having to watch the Stupids, like I would 148 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:29.439 just I'd quit again. 149 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.000 That's what I want to stop cursing. So I'm like that. 150 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:38.000 So we have on the list. We have so the 151 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:39.560 sound of music is always on the list. Then we 152 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:42.480 have the P and P punishment movies which we threw 153 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.639 on there, which were Striking Distance,

Monkey Bone, The Ice Pirates, 154 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:49.800 Coup and a Half, Trapped in Paradise. Oh, actually, Trapped 155 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:52.199 in Paradise can come off because Starty already got that one. 156 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:55.240 Okay, Well, first of all, Trapped in Paradise is. 157 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:57.920 It's a good movie. He hates Nicholas Cage. That's the 158 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:59.639 only thing I do like that one, all right? 159 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.120 Yeah? And then what was the other one, the last 160 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:04.319 one you read there, Cop and a half. Yeah, Cop 161 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.240 and a half Man Reynolds. 162 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.240 Yeah, don't don't praise that one. Trust me, you got 163 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:11.600 to rewatch it before you praise that. 164 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:13.959 I don't want to freak it even Well that was 165 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.560 like I watched, uh, what came on the TV the 166 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:19.680 other day was the freakin' Chuck Norris a cop movie 167 00:07:19.720 --> 00:07:22.480 where he's got a dog, Cop Dog, Cop Dog. 168 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:26.040 That's it. Yeah, the third of the of the cop 169 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.720 and dog movies. If there's a list, we're not. 170 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:33.639 Counting that, No, because it's definitely K nine, Turner and Hooge. 171 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:36.120 And then I mean, what maybe Cuffs I would put 172 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:36.519 in there. 173 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:39.199 I think most people would argue that no, Cuffs didn't 174 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:39.560 have a dog. 175 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:40.319 Are you sure? 176 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.959 Oh? I love Cuffs. That was Christian. Christian Slater plays 177 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:47.399 the little brother, all right. I don't even know if 178 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.560 this is true, but like I guess in San Francisco 179 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:54.399 they had police stations that you that, you know, like 180 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.439 the town paid for, which I don't think is true. 181 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:57.959 I don't think it's true at all. But like the 182 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.600 sections paid for the police stations, and so his brother 183 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.879 owns one of them, and then his brother gets killed 184 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:07.959 in like some conspiracy. So George Cuffs has to step 185 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:11.000 in for his brother, and like because he inherits the 186 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.879 whole thing and nobody trusts him or anything. I'm going 187 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:17.639 to watch Cuffs tonight. I'm in. I love Cuffs. I 188 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:22.639 don't care, dude, there's so many bad Christian movies steven 189 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:27.160 sigall movies and seventies and eighties TV movies on this list. 190 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:32.600 Oh

no, so much on this list. That's just bad. 191 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.759 I can't wait to get to Gramps Goes to College. 192 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:42.440 It's a nice Christian film for you. Yeah, So hopefully 193 00:08:42.480 --> 00:08:45.320 I do not curse tonight because I don't want another movie. 194 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:50.879 I just watched Mark for Death. It uh miho. It's terrible. 195 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:57.399 It's just a really bad movie. But there's a good note. 196 00:08:57.679 --> 00:08:59.399 As long as I don't curse, I don't get a movie, 197 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:02.639 but I'm going to get a book because we're supporting libraries. 198 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.080 That's our big push right now. We want to help 199 00:09:06.600 --> 00:09:10.799 gain donations for two different organizations that help libraries nationally. 200 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:16.000 Every Library, which is an organization that as a national 201 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:19.480 political action and advocacy organization that helps public and school 202 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:23.000 libraries win funding campaigns and fight book bands, which is 203 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:26.639 always important. And then of course, the American Library Association 204 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.600 or the ALA, accepts donations to fund professional development for libraries, 205 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.799 community outreach, and national literacy programs, which is desperately needed. 206 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.799 And I'm going to put the links in the comments 207 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.639 and so you guys can comment along, or you can 208 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.000 check out the links there wherever you're watching. But yeah, honestly, 209 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:48.519 I'm really excited about this push. We got a lot 210 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:51.399 in store for you in the upcoming weeks and stuff, and. 211 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:53.679 It's really exciting and important. It's something that we really 212 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:56.240 care a lot about, is literacy. It's so important to 213 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.759 be able to read, to write, and to be able 214 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.759 to find the joy that it's such a beautiful, wonderful 215 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.399 medium and it's vital to our world that we continue 216 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.000 to increase our literacy and find that joy in reading again. 217 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.639 So please help any way you can and always push 218 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:12.879 against banned books. 219 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.559 And if you guys donate, please let us know, you know, 220 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:18.720 send it to us dm US and we will give 221 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.720 you a shout out on a show for helping out 222 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:23.279 and doing the best you can. We will have them 223 00:10:23.279 --> 00:10:25.759 down on the descriptions below so you can go check 224 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:30.559 them out there. But we're talking about some storied characters 225 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:35.919 this evening, Yes, folk heroes. Yeah, we'll get into our 226 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.240 top five in just a minute. But like I want to, well, 227 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:39.799 let me read what I got, because I did get 228 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:42.919 a definition for it. For anybody who is unaware of 229 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.919 or uninitiated in the folk hero world, A folk hero 230 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:51.240 is a real, fictional, or mythical person who is greatly admired, loved, 231 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:54.639 and respected by ordinary people. Their fame lives on through 232 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:59.919 local stories, folk songs, and cultural traditions rather than official 233 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:01.000 history books. 234 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:02.200 Okay, I like that. 235 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:05.639 What did a folk here like? Let's let's start here. 236 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.240 Who is your favorite folk hero of all time? Doesn't 237 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:11.840 have to be American? Okay, I'll go first, just to 238 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:13.639 I think, because I think you know it. 239 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.399 Are actually I let's guess each other's folk heroes. Okay, 240 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:17.960 let's start by doing that. I want to I want 241 00:11:17.960 --> 00:11:19.919 to say, because I think yours is Davy Crockett. 242 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:25.320 Not bad, not my favorite, but uh good choice. Yours, 243 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:26.600 I would say. 244 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:31.240 Ooh, ooh, you're you're you're in the realm. But no, 245 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.240 that is not my favorite, but that is a good try. 246 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.840 My favorite is actually not an American folk hero. 247 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:39.360 Okay, Robin Hood ooh nice. 248 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:41.840 I always love the story of Robin Hood and every 249 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.039 iteration of it. Yep, so who you got for me? 250 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:47.840 For me? Wild Billlhitcop has always been my favorite. Okay, 251 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:50.559 I always love the Wild West, and yeah, Jesse James 252 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.279 is in there. There are some other kind of folk 253 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:54.919 heres of the time. You know, Calambity Jane was a 254 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:57.960 great one. But uh but yeah, wild Bill Man, I 255 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.000 thought that was so many fun stories told about him, 256 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:04.679 and whenever he's on screen, he's always he's usually kind 257 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.919 of a subtle, subdued guy, and I always enjoy that. 258 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:10.320 So I'm I'm a big fan of good old wild 259 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:11.240 Bill even though. 260 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:18.000 Yeah, exactly right, my favorite

American folk hero is my 261 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:19.960 number one. So it may surprise you. 262 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:21.399 Okay, I'm interested. 263 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:23.440 I'm gonna save it though, to save it when we 264 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.399 go Okay, okay, okay, but I do. I've really I've 265 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:29.360 always loved reading about different folk heroes throughout time, and 266 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:32.440 like what that meant. I wasn't I wasn't too big 267 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:35.600 on the and the movies of there were just something 268 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:38.840 I really like to read Johnny Appleseed, you know, things 269 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:42.519 like that, And I don't until I got older, I 270 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:45.679 didn't really look into the full truth behind all these 271 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.919 folk heroes of what happened. Some of them are a 272 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:50.080 little like wild. 273 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:54.480 Yeah, there's some there's some wild truths behind them, and uh, 274 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:57.720 it gets to be That's why, once again, I've always 275 00:12:57.799 --> 00:13:00.080 enjoyed when they're on screen. If they're kind of a 276 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.320 subdued or played down or maybe more of a real 277 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:06.200 person than what the stories have been conflagrated to become. 278 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:08.440 Although they are wonderful, I do still love them. 279 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:13.080 Was there a folk hero who maybe hasn't received either 280 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.720 a movie or good adaptation in a movie that you 281 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:17.879 would be interested in seeing? 282 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.679 Oh, that's interesting, that's an interesting question. I don't know 283 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:22.559 I would like to see. I feel there's been a 284 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:24.759 lot of John Henry's. Yeah, you know, we get a 285 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:28.279 lot of John Henry. You know. Someone who really would 286 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:32.519 be bad actually would be Molly Pitcher. Okay, Molly Pitcher 287 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:34.639 would be neat, the woman who you know, helped during 288 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:38.200 the revolution, during the you know, loading the cannons, manning 289 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:39.960 the guns like that, would be neat. To get a 290 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.679 Molly Pitcher, you know, movie. 291 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.360 Like that, I wouldn't mind see. They did a really 292 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:48.879 good sup did I lose you? Did you lose me? Yeah? 293 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:52.600 I did? There he is. Yeah, so they kick about Crane. 294 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:54.519 Got a good one with the Tim Burton movie. 295 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:57.559 Oh yeah, yeah, The Sleepy Hollow was fantastic. That covers 296 00:13:57.600 --> 00:13:58.440 it about Crane. 297 00:13:59.159 --> 00:14:01.440 Trying to think of who else I wouldn't mind seeing. 298 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:03.840 I mean Picco's Bill. 299 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:06.799 Maybe because piccos Bill really you only saw him in 300 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:09.919 that one Tall Tales movie. Yeah, and I never really 301 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:12.080 saw anything much else without reading about. 302 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:14.000 Him, so it wasn't much about him really, and it's 303 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:16.720 kind of unfortunate, or you know, give us a Davy Crockett, 304 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:19.039 give us a real Davy Crockett movie. We haven't had 305 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.759 much Davy Crockett since the seventies and the Alamo those 306 00:14:21.759 --> 00:14:23.879 are the only times we really see Davy Crockett. 307 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:26.039 And I would like those fifties Disney ones. 308 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.120 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Were those the fifties? 309 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:31.279 Yeah? Those Ah, it was Davy Crockett. And they did 310 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:34.679 The Alamo with him, yep in that too, and they 311 00:14:34.720 --> 00:14:38.720 did the uh what do you call it? What was it? 312 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.960 The River Pirates one? Oh? Okay, yeah, I did so. 313 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:43.960 Like when you said Davy Crockett from like, when are 314 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:45.320 you paying attention to my childhood? 315 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:49.879 Well, because we both grew up with that V. Crockett 316 00:14:49.960 --> 00:14:53.080 king in the Wild Frontier, Like that's that rings in 317 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:54.840 my head, It resonates in my soul. 318 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.519 Oh dude, And like here's the funny thing. I know 319 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:00.639 he fought a bear. I know he was a senator. Yeah, 320 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.759 and I know he died at the Alamo, yep. And 321 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:08.200 that's it. David Crockett goes. Everything I know about Davy 322 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:13.840 Crockett comes from somewhat reading, but mostly those Disney movies 323 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:15.399 and a John Wayne movie. 324 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:17.960 I mean, that's that's pretty much. Yeah, what I've got, 325 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:22.600 that's but it was it was fun because he always 326 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.720 was doing those weird things where he was like fighting, 327 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:29.519 you know, the the cougars or like just being out 328 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:32.879 in the wilderness. And it was neat because he was 329 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:36.159 the American wilderness conqueror and versus you know, Picos Bill, 330 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:38.320 who was the American West conqueror. So that's when you 331 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:41.200 get further into like that New Mexico, Oklahoma terra to 332 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:44.600 where Kansas, Nebraska. That's where

Pickos Bill was really big. 333 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.600 So it's just neat to see how all of the 334 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:50.279 they changed with where we were culturally at the time. 335 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:51.159 It's always neat. 336 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:55.639 He fought in the Creek War under Andrew Jackson, so 337 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:58.679 I pulled up some of the different heroes, pulled up 338 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.200 something just like some of their Sure, Yeah, it was 339 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:03.720 a US congressman for Tennessee died in Battle of the 340 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.600 Alamo inspired numerous books which we only don't know, we 341 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.039 only know the movies. Yeah. Unfortunately, now when it comes 342 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:13.799 to Pecos Bill, I'm trying to figure out, like, okay, 343 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.200 you know, stop Pakos Bill. Piccos Bill was said to 344 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.720 have been raised by coyotes after falling out of his 345 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:24.360 family's wagon. Yep, he contained the wild horse name widow Maker, 346 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.960 which no one else could ride. Yes, Bill is credited 347 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:30.720 by creating the Rio grand by last swing a tornado 348 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:35.679 and dragon across Texas. Absolutely, he once rode a mountain 349 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:39.039 lion and used a rattlesnake as a lasso. Darn Tutin 350 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:42.559 and Peko's Bill stories were popularized in the early twentieth 351 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:44.679 century by writers Edward O'Reilly. 352 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.120 Yes, in the nineteen twenties is when his uh, when 353 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:50.279 as the American West was kind of dying out. It's 354 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:53.279 always interesting to me that these these legends and everything 355 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:55.440 came so so much further afterwards. 356 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:58.919 Yeah, you know what, Yeah, there really was, Like so 357 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:00.159 Paul Bunyan. 358 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:02.120 All Bunyan Baby one of the best, right there. 359 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.240 Daniel Boone do you know Daniel Boone? 360 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:05.839 Absolutely, Daniel Boone. 361 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:07.759 Who's Daniel Boone reminded me of Daniel Boone again. 362 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:10.359 Daniel Boone was the coonskin hat wearing guy who was 363 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:12.240 another wilderness Davy Crockett guy. 364 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:13.359 That was Davy Crockett. 365 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:17.799 Don't mind me, they're the same guy. Wait they are, No, 366 00:17:17.920 --> 00:17:21.720 Daniel Boone was an American pioneer before Crockett. I think 367 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.799 he's well before Crockett. Yeah, he was out seventeen thirty 368 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:28.599 four to eighteen twenty, so he lived a

ripe old age, 369 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:31.359 probably a grumpy bastard, but he was one of the frontiersmen, 370 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:34.680 so it made him a big folks hero. Some of 371 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:35.599 his things he did. 372 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:38.599 Where was he at the Alamo dead for sixteen years? 373 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.839 He's already dead. Yeah, probably would have been there. Honestly, 374 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:47.480 helped blaze the trail through Cumberland Gap and has a 375 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:49.920 notch in the Appalachian Mountains near the juncture of Virginia, 376 00:17:49.920 --> 00:17:50.960 Tennessee and Kentucky. 377 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:54.200 Listen, come down, all right, So that was his thing, Okay. Now, 378 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:57.680 Paul Bunyan was as often depicted as a giant yep 379 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:02.599 standing sixty three access handles tall. Yes, his blue Oox 380 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.920 Babe is said to be just as enormous, capable of 381 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:11.240 plowing entire forests in a single day. Absolutely, So he's 382 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.400 my ant sister. Uh. The stories of Paul Bunyan originated 383 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:19.440 from the oral traditions of North American laggers. Some tales 384 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.319 claim Paul created the Grand Canyon by dragging his axe 385 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.039 behind him as possible. 386 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:27.200 I also like to think that Paul is possible. Yeah, 387 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:29.319 I could see it. I think Paul Bunyan is more 388 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:31.960 of one of the guys who Uh, that's the story 389 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.319 you tell when you're either a trying to inspire your 390 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:36.799 guys to do better work and do more work, or 391 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.599 B the guys are so tired they're like, maybe Paul 392 00:18:39.640 --> 00:18:41.480 Bunyan will show up and just knock this out for 393 00:18:41.599 --> 00:18:42.880 us so we can just go home. 394 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:47.039 Dude, you gotta be like, okay, so we had to 395 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:48.160 Kaiju in America. 396 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.319 Yeah, No, we did well too, because he ruled his 397 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:54.119 his ox. Man, you can't forget about Babe. 398 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:57.759 Babe, the Big Blue Ox. We had some wild, funky 399 00:18:57.799 --> 00:18:59.279 stuff that people just believed. 400 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.000 Well, yeah, people are dumb. 401 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:04.359 And Grandier was here. I want to say, hey, the Grandizer. 402 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.359 He was talking about a Daniel Boone TV show and 403 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.559 he said, yes he saw the comments. Yeah, we saw him. 404 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:09.599 I brought him up. 405 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.279 Fest Parker played Daniel but no did he Fest Parker 406 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:16.039 played Davy Crockett. Maybe he also played Daniel Boone. 407 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:17.200 That is very possible. 408 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:18.599 Well, that's going to piss me off. 409 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:22.839 What was the other one? Was it not Grizzly Adams, 410 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:25.079 but the man on a bear? The guy who rode the. 411 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:28.480 Bear JB and the Bear? Was that the guy? I think? 412 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:31.519 So? Yeah, where he's riding his bear or no guy 413 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:33.839 on a buffalo, That's what I'm thinking of, the guy 414 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:34.839 who wrote his buffalo. 415 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:37.599 The seventies was just a wild time. It was weird. 416 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:40.400 There was a lot of animals and unfortunately, I would 417 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.279 like to think they were well treated, they were not. 418 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.160 I want to know if he's right, if he actually 419 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.119 played He did play Davy Crockett. He played Davy Crockett 420 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:51.000 and alias Chessey James. That fest Parker did wow, and 421 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.480 he really he really went all in on on Davy 422 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:55.240 Crockett in the Magical World at Disney. 423 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:56.319 I know what he loved. 424 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:00.519 I don't see anything for Daniel Boone though, so I'm 425 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.720 not quite sure what that means. But he was also 426 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.440 in them, that's right. Was the Grizzly Adams. 427 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:10.440 Grizzly Adams is another one, yeah. 428 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:13.279 Another one? Yes? Okay, So all right, we're talking a 429 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:16.799 lot about these heroes, these folk heroes of America. So 430 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.920 why don't we get started on our top five. 431 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:24.960 Let's take it all right, So we're at the top 432 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:29.799 five countdown for American folk heroes. 433 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:35.160 Perfect. I love it. No notes, just keep it up. 434 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:38.279 Uh yeah, So let's say we go through our top 435 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:44.240 five of American folk heroes. Who do you? Uh, you 436 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:45.400 want to go first? Or men? 437 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:50.519 I'll fire off. Yeah. One of the one of the 438 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:54.079 greatest songs to ever come out of any millennia is 439 00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:58.440 based strictly on my namesake. Mister Casey Jones, who was 440 00:20:58.559 --> 00:21:02.279 claim to fame is allowing his train into another parked 441 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:06.759 train in Mississippi. So way to go, all right? 442 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:09.799 I like it. My number five is Paul Revere. I 443 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:13.319 love that story. It's

such a cool story. And oh, 444 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:16.119 I like granted, actually asked, is Paul Revere a folk 445 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:17.720 hero too? I believe he is? 446 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.119 Like that, yeah, oh absolutely, there's a ballad of the 447 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:21.720 legend of them, because I mean, that's the thing is, 448 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:23.519 the legend is so much bigger than what he actually did. 449 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:27.720 He Rode seventeen mile. You know. The other guy Isiah Rode, 450 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.160 what one hundred and something or two hundred miles to 451 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:32.920 go talk to the guys in Philly to actually warn everybody. 452 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:35.920 So and there were like, there were like eight other 453 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:38.440 dispatch writers who all rode way more than Paul Revere. 454 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:41.279 But the midnight right of Paul Revere just sounds pready prettier. 455 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:43.839 Listen, maybe everybody else should have got the rest is 456 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:44.359 up the minute? 457 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:46.680 Ah, there it is, do. 458 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:49.880 It after all? Right? Who's your number four? 459 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:54.119 My number four is Paul Revere. I love my stories 460 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:57.680 of the Revolution, and I've been diving deep into the revolution. 461 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:01.200 So those those folk heroes, which I would claim George 462 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.279 Washington might kind of dance that line, you know, because 463 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:06.920 he is a historical figure who became much bigger than 464 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:09.920 he was. Even though he was huge. Man was huge. 465 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.599 He was a giant is six or four at a 466 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:14.480 time when guys were on average five seven. He was 467 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:14.960 a giant. 468 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:16.359 My kind of guy. 469 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:18.519 He's Paul Bunden. What do you got for number three? 470 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:21.240 My brother? Well, my number four is Davy Crockett. 471 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.279 Oh, yes, number four of David Crockett. 472 00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:25.839 I love it. I love Davy. I loved watching those 473 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:28.440 movies growing up. Of course, it's just a cool such 474 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:31.160 a cool American hero, I guess. 475 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:32.720 Yeah, American legend who's amazing. 476 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:34.119 Who's your number three? 477 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:37.839 My number three is Molly Pitcher, the revolutionary war woman 478 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:42.000 who you know, managed to handle over twenty guns all 479 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:44.960 by herself and drive back the British at Monmouth. Deserves 480 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:47.000 the metal owner, Oh yeah, absolutely. 481 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:51.039 My number three is John Brown, who is kind of 482 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:55.039 having a resurgence of folk hero. Yes, he is, rightfully so, 483 00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:58.839 and I think his legend is bigger. I'm not saying 484 00:22:58.839 --> 00:23:01.920 what the man, not trying to put down or belittle 485 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.039 anything the man did, but like I feel like his 486 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:06.640 it's just grown exponentially. 487 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:10.079 Absolutely it has. I mean that's that's I think. I 488 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:14.480 even in our league, that's you know, who would John Brown? Shoot, 489 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:17.319 that's my that's my question. That's what I asked, you know, 490 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:20.359 because he's my number two, So I'm right to you. Yeah, 491 00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.599 I love John Brown, man. I love that story. I 492 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:27.319 love the sort of enigma that was grown around him. Unfortunately, 493 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:29.960 you know, his it was taken out by Lee, but 494 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:34.119 the stories that grew behind the scenes and have become louder, 495 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:36.960 and there's a reason for that. So I'm excited. And 496 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:39.599 I love John Brown or he's a crazy old preacher 497 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:41.720 and I'm trying to all get my hair like him. 498 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:43.880 Hopefully when I'm a hit fifty, I can finally just 499 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.400 let everything go. Just do it, just let it go, 500 00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:51.000 just be full on Beard from season two, episode two 501 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:51.920 of ted Lasso. 502 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:57.680 That's fair. My number two is actually Ichabod Crane because 503 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:00.519 I love the legend of Sleepy Hollow the guy and 504 00:24:00.640 --> 00:24:03.079 me to have that legend, well. 505 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:06.200 Of course, I mean it's great. And who wrote that one? 506 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:08.160 Was it? Irving? Washington? 507 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:09.279 Washington, Irving? 508 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:09.799 That's correct? 509 00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:13.799 Was sorry, one of my favorite authors from one of 510 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:14.720 my favorite places. 511 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:19.640 I kind of remember. It was a little backwards, and 512 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:20.200 I like it. 513 00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:22.640 That's up by us, yes exactly. 514 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:22.960 Yep. 515 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.119 He was a New York guy, so he's up in 516 00:24:25.160 --> 00:24:27.799 our area. I love it all right. And then my 517 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:30.880 number one, Oh wait, do we want to do honorable 518 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:31.400 mentions too? 519 00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:32.799 If you have an honor if you have any, I 520 00:24:32.799

--> 00:24:33.519 don't have any for. 521 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.119 Me, honestly. Just Paul Bunyan, John Henry pick Us, Bill 522 00:24:37.480 --> 00:24:39.599 and those three were some of my favorites growing up. 523 00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:42.240 And there were tons of stories read to you know, 524 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.000 those stories are embedded in my heart, so I feel 525 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:47.759 remiss and not honor them a little bit. But my 526 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:49.480 number one is the one I came up with earlier, 527 00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.240 Wild Hiccock. He was the epitome of the wild West. 528 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:52.440 To me. 529 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:55.519 It was kind of the showy showmanship and that over 530 00:24:55.559 --> 00:24:58.440 the topness that I obviously love for whatever reason. 531 00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:01.960 So I love that's a good one. My number one 532 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.759 is my favorite is number two of my folk heroes, 533 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:09.559 but my favorite American folk hero of all time, John Henry. Yeah, 534 00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.559 and like I'm inspiring like you, Oh my god, I'm 535 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:17.000 gonna wint. 536 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:16.400 To beat this machine. 537 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:20.519 That's how I feel about a channel I enter John Henry. 538 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:22.039 But let's remember he died. 539 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:23.759 Yeah, that's fair. 540 00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:26.480 He beat the machine at the cost of his life. 541 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:31.319 So actually he beat them in the real lore or 542 00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:35.440 however you want to put the story, the real faxer 543 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:38.920 he beat the machine, and then his wife kept going 544 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:39.440 for him. 545 00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:41.039 Oh that's right, yep. 546 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.759 And like so like he he was beating the machine, 547 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:45.759 she beat it. Yep. 548 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:51.000 So that's John Henry man. He will he will beat it. Americans, 549 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:54.920 you know we have that, yeah, strength of will, strength 550 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.160 and strength against the industrial mechanization. 551 00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:01.000 Man, two things that can save you from Rashul and 552 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.400 life in America. Strength of will. 553 00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:10.240 Strike the will is the worst. Come on, you. 554 00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:18.359 Gotta love strength of will, all right here, gotta love it. 555 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:22.160 Uh yeah, that's our top fives everybody, So thanks for 556 00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:24.759 checking those out. And I guess I might as well 557 00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:26.319 just do this damn punishment. 558 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:27.279 Yes, it's time. 559 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:29.400 I'm not going to curse anymore. I'm

trying not to, 560 00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:32.680 but I'm not getting any more. After that. I already 561 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:34.200 had to punish a movie, and it makes me so 562 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.160 sick that I'm going to do this again. I can't 563 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:37.880 believe I got to do this again, Casey. 564 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.039 I mean I can't. It's just to remind you, just 565 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:42.599 to remind you. It's a reminder. 566 00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:43.799 It's so mad. 567 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:45.400 Do the thing. Don't do the thing. 568 00:26:45.680 --> 00:26:49.400 As is even really a curse. I don't want to 569 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:50.720 spend this wheel, Casey, I. 570 00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:52.839 Don't want to do it. You gotta do it. You 571 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:54.359 gotta press the button there it is. 572 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.000 If I get the sound of music, I'm my throw 573 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.680 no no, no, no, oh boy? The nude bomb? 574 00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.119 Oh what is that? 575 00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.319 That's a great question, Casey. 576 00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:10.799 Now I have to look it up and find out 577 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:11.119 what is. 578 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:12.839 I'm gonna look this one up too. 579 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:14.880 I hope this doesn't destroy my computer all of a 580 00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:16.519 sudden it freaks out and it's like, oh God. 581 00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:20.480 The Nude Bomb is a nineteen eighty comedy action movie 582 00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:21.880 starring Don Adams. 583 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:25.359 Don Adams Wow. 584 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:29.039 While enjoying retirement, Oh no, here we go. While enjoying retirement, 585 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:32.759 secret agent Maxwell Smart soon finds the world needs his 586 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:37.400 services again. With a chaos terrorist plot underway. The chief 587 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.119 of the Pits Agency re enlists Smart to keep Chaos 588 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:44.839 from detonating bombs that leave their helpless victims in the buff. 589 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.400 Well, that's that's not gonna suck. That's freaking gets I mean, 590 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:50.319 that's wonderful. I love Get Smart. 591 00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.880 I do like Get Smart for sure. Yeah, okay, all right, 592 00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.359 all right, maybe not so bad. A mark for death 593 00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:57.480 was enough punishment. 594 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.559 Now this is you got off light something to look 595 00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:02.599 Is it gonna be good? No? Is it gonna be 596 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.680 something you're gonna enjoy and look back and be like, man, 597 00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:06.880 I'm really glad I watched that. Also. No, no, but 598 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:09.599 it's not gonna hurt like the stupids. 599 00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.079 And I have to rent it. Which is even worse. 600 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:17.160 It's rotten tomato because I don't think it's a good movie. 601 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.200 I don't think so either. I mean it's called the 602 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:21.440 Nude Bomb and it's based on like they couldn't even 603 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.519 call it Get Smart the Nude Bomb, Like, come on, 604 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.359 I do like I like the TV show Get. 605 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.240 Smart though, so well, yeah, that was a good one. 606 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.319 So and I like, hey, listen, I like the Inspector Gadget. 607 00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:34.000 That was him too. 608 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.160 Yeah, those were all fun. I mean that's what he was. 609 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:38.440 He was Inspector Gadget. He was a bad Double O seven. 610 00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.920 It was wonderful. He was the American knockoff bad Double 611 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.599 O seven. I mean he's got a shoe phone for 612 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:44.559 crying out loud, that's true. 613 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.279 A very cool shoe phone, by the way, or the wings. 614 00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:50.599 Or the what phone booth? That was like jettisoned him down. 615 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:53.920 It was fast as I'll get out. 616 00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:57.160 Granda says, I remember seeing The Nude Bomb back when 617 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:01.599 movies were trying to push the envelope with nudity. 618 00:29:01.680 --> 00:29:02.079 Perfect. 619 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:05.880 Yeah, I'm there. Give me all the nudity in the 620 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:06.440 New COLMP. 621 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.200 I mean, hey, man, if you're just going to wind 622 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.000 up with boobs, the whole time boobs and gadgets. 623 00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.839 That sounds great with a movie from nineteen eighty perfect 624 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.319 to get smart movie from my team. 625 00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.920 And you can also think about how horribly those poor 626 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:21.119 girls were treated on set. 627 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.519 Oh my god, that's true. 628 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.319 Yeah, that was awful. Wonder how they got those roles. 629 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:33.079 Well, speaking of folk hero Maxville Smart, I actually did 630 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.160 want to kind of start a conversation with you about that, 631 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.279 and it sent you that video that was kind of 632 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.880 talking about how folk heroes has sort of gone away 633 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.839 since ips and franchises have all kicked in and like 634 00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:48.279 we can't even look at the Spider Man's and stuff 635 00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.039 like that as like our folk heroes now because it's 636 00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.440 all just a conglomerate that owns everything. So how do 637 00:29:54.519

--> 00:29:56.640 you feel about that? Do you think that folk hero 638 00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:59.960 still exists? And then what's if so starting out there 639 00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:01.559 in what capacity? Well? 640 00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:03.880 I do I think? So I kind of went deep 641 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.559 with what modern folk heroes are. So basically I'm taking 642 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.920 anything from kind of you know, post nineteen forties forward 643 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.640 around that time. You know, we still have certain folk 644 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.119 heroes who have resonated through time, like Jackie Robinson. Evil 645 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.920 Knievel is one that I think is still around in 646 00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:24.759 our hearts, in our minds. We know of them. It's 647 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.799 something we can pass down and be like, you watch 648 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.480 this ridiculous thing. For me, being a history guy, I 649 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.359 still have like guys like Chuck Yeager who broke the 650 00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:34.640 sound barrier. You know what an amazing feat that. That 651 00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.319 is a special moment. So do we have these folk 652 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:39.720 heroes at this time? It depends on what we consider 653 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.279 them to stand for. What do we think they are, 654 00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.359 Who do we think they are. It's hard to take 655 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:48.119 anything that's super mainstream and call that a folk hero 656 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.359 because the connection to us is missing. You know. It's 657 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.119 something that also requires time. There aren't folk heroes who 658 00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.279 show up like I mean, Pegos Bill is a prime 659 00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.960 example of that. So pigos Bill was a c was 660 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:05.799 a character that's supposed to epitome what the eighteen sixties 661 00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:10.279 and seventies and eighties, Yet he's created in the nineteen twenties, 662 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.440 So there's got to be distance. Jackie Robinson breaking the 663 00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.799 color barrier wasn't considered at the time to be this wonderful, good, 664 00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:21.880 momentous thing. It was very divisive, so it wasn't until 665 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.400 the fullness of time when we have more black athletes 666 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:27.319 in when we have a lot more, when it's the commonplace, 667 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:29.599 then we look back and we create the folk hero. 668 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.799 Once we've established what the commonplace victory history is, the 669 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.880 folk hero just continues to tell the tale that we 670 00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.400 want to have told, you know. So I think it's 671 00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.799 it is more difficult in this time. But it's difficult 672 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:43.880 also to say who's going to be it, because when 673 00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:45.720 we live in this time, it's tough to say, well, 674 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.519 who are our kids going to remember and hold on 675 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.400 and carry, you know, what's going to be the folk 676 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.359 heroes for them that are brought forward because our folk 677 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:55.519 heroes could be Rosa Parks, that's one, you know, I 678 00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.640 think that's a big one. I think Audie Murphy, that's 679 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:00.559 a folk hero. You know, the legend of Allodi Murphy. 680 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.880 That's basically the true story of Captain America. 681 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:07.799 Right exactly. But those things have resonated and been passed 682 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:11.920 down in a way that glorifies them in what they 683 00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:13.960 did more than the person. And I think that's important 684 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.839 to remember too when we're glorifying wild both hiccock, it's 685 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:18.720 not the guy who probably went horn and drinking and 686 00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:20.440 did all that we're talking about this guy who helped 687 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.039 Team the West and you know, wipe out Buffalo and 688 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:24.799 do all the things that they cared about back then. 689 00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.559 That was something that you would want to tell about. 690 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:30.400 Paul Bunyan was big because the lumber industry was massive 691 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.839 at that time and the trees, you got to remember, 692 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:36.839 the trees that they're seeing is so massive that they're like, 693 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.519 you know, the idea of this massive ox and a 694 00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:43.480 massive dude must fit because these trees are almost thousands 695 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.640 of years old. They're huge. So and that's just what 696 00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:49.799 everything we have now is pretty much replanting. It's stuff 697 00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.680 that's hundreds of years old from the original lumbering that 698 00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:55.880 already happened. So it's very based on what we have nowadays. 699 00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:58.759 I think it wouldn't be too outlandish to say there 700 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.240 are still some folk heroes from the current times. I 701 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:04.799 would get Steve Irwin would kind of be up there. 702 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.519 I think he matches that point because we continue to 703 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.279 tell tales of him and we're able to show our 704 00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.839 kids him. Mister Rogers is one of those who I 705 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.079 think is a folk hero, not just for what he

706 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.119 brought to television, but the fight for public broadcasting you know, 707 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:21.359 that in itself is its own sort of folk hero legend, 708 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.240 especially right now with cable companies being what they are, 709 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.000 you know, fiber companies being what they are, our Internet 710 00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.880 everything that that kind of gives us the things we want. Well, 711 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.920 here's someone standing up for the little guy. Here's someone 712 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.240 standing up for the every person who doesn't buy into 713 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.240 the corporate thing. So I do understand that with these 714 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:41.920 corporate amalgamations and these huge conglomerates, it's difficult to say 715 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.079 who comes out of that because everybody's getting a pretty 716 00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.839 decent paycheck and we're not where it's folk hero's affect 717 00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.440 people who who kind of give other peoples. 718 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.440 A chance, who fight for the little guy, who who 719 00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:58.039 represent an underrepresented group, That is more of the folk hero. 720 00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.519 And that's why it's it's kind of going to be 721 00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.680 a matter of who comes out of this as being 722 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:05.160 a folk hero. I think, especially right now, we're at 723 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.119 a point where we could have some strong political folk heroes. 724 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:09.920 I think that could be a thing. You know, we 725 00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.400 could get someone who gets up to that William Jennings 726 00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:15.519 Bryan level of being known throughout time. Now. Of course 727 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:18.039 he was the blustery lion and was a terrible person. 728 00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.079 He was, you know, he was the anti Scopes monkey 729 00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.119 trial guy. He was on the other side. So there's 730 00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:26.840 interesting to see. 731 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:27.280 Yeah. 732 00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:27.960 Uh. 733 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.639 And and to grandize this point, yeah, I think he 734 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.199 was a piece of garbage in real life. But Treck 735 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:35.320 Norris is fake. That's not who he was. That's something 736 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.800 he portrayed and wanted to be. But like you're Jesse Owens, yeah, 737 00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:41.639 I mean he's a folk hero. I mean he defeated 738 00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:44.199 he did something that nobody else could do at the time. 739 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.760 And I like your take on this, and I gotta 740 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.639 say I agree, like we have yet to see today's 741 00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:55.280 folk heroes because today's folk heroes are at work, whereas 742 00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.960 adventures sort of became the lore with some of these 743 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.639 older ones, with his being as well documented as it 744 00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:04.880 is now. Yeah, I guess our folk heroes would have 745 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.800 to be heroes that are born in pushing back on 746 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:11.039 the status quo or or or just against these different 747 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:12.960 type of conglomerate instead of trying to make their own 748 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.719 like Chuck Norris to me is a brand. 749 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:16.760 I agree. 750 00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.480 Yeah, you know, that's not a folk hero by any stretcher. 751 00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.639 And and a lot of celebrities build themselves as brand is. 752 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:28.960 Almost Schwarzenegger, you Knowel Spielberg. You know, I could you 753 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.800 could argue that Spielberg is maybe at one point could 754 00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:35.039 have been seen as a folk hero because of what 755 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.440 he brought to the screen and the way he changed things. 756 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.400 But then he he created his own DreamWorks, that it's 757 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.039 its own system, that it's doing the same thing. So 758 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:45.559 at the end of the day, like I I don't 759 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.559 know that you can look at filmmakers and especially the 760 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:51.760 wildly popular ones Scorsese. 761 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:55.079 Maybe I'd agree with maybe Lucas okay, because what he 762 00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.599 did in the feats that he created with Star Wars 763 00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:02.239 and the themes. Yeah, it's been so bastardized, like it's 764 00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:03.639 hard thing THHX. 765 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.199 There was a wonderful thing that he revolutionized and brought 766 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.440 Lucas arts, you know, brought these wonderful things to the screen. 767 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.639 But over time, eventually, like we've been able to see 768 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.320 our heroes fall in a different way, you know, as 769 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.039 opposed to the legends where you didn't know much about them, 770 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.639 you know, like Davy Crockett, we didn't know much about 771 00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:22.920 Davy Crockett. He could have been a womanizing horror man 772 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.840 who just you know, got drunk all the time. But 773 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:27.480 people tell stories and the stories are what perpetuate. 774 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:28.039 Well. 775 00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:32.360 Now with our movies being our stories, our campfires where 776 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:35.760 we're telling tales, we're kind of getting those

heroes fed 777 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.559 to us. And it's not the same as creating the stories. 778 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.440 You know, there's something that there's something about that we 779 00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:46.719 create more monsters than we do I think heroes nowadays. 780 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.239 Oh one thousand percent. Yeah, And I think there's become 781 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:52.800 this fascination with almost like sympathizing with the monsters more so. 782 00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.760 And that now not against good storytelling. Let me you know, 783 00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.199 the fact that Darth Vader was such an enriching, enriched 784 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.360 villain is because he was conflicted and he did have 785 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.679 his issues, and I think that's fine, but we also 786 00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:10.519 have to be willing to accept the limitations with that, yeah, 787 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:14.039 and building off the lore and stuff like that. There, 788 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:15.880 it's going to be harder and harder to do. But 789 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:18.360 I do agree with you. People who I know, like 790 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.599 you said earlier, were kind of joking about offline, not joking, 791 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:26.800 but like you know, half ascidly joking about it is 792 00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:31.360 that everyone has flaws, you know, and mostly me joking 793 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.320 about not having any but I'll be your next super 794 00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:36.280 your next folk hero. 795 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.239 You're you're in line, buddy, You're right. Manhattan is next. 796 00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:42.719 The ballot of mc Manhattan. 797 00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.000 Is coming when I die, trying to create things that 798 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.360 AI can't create because I'm so great. No, yeah, right. 799 00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:52.880 Oh, we spent seventy two hours in front of that screen. 800 00:37:55.480 --> 00:38:03.840 Streaming all the way. His name was McK henry. Listen, 801 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:05.719 you gotta love it, would you, ja. 802 00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.679 Man, it's Jane Cobb, you know, like Jane Cobb did 803 00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.039 not do something genuine out of the goodness of his heart. 804 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.039 His ship was crashing and he kicked money out of 805 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:16.840 it so that way he could get away. But the 806 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:18.679 money happened to land in a place where it was 807 00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:21.280 able to help the down trodden and the poor. So 808 00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:22.719 they just take that and run with it. 809 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:26.960 Yeah, that's a great Firefly episode too, really was. But 810 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:29.480 and that is such a beautiful way too, Like watching 811 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.800 that episode will teach you how folklore has become, you know, 812 00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:36.360 alive like that, like Jesse James, especially Vicious Killer. Oh yeah, 813 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:40.440 you know, tore things up all around. But even like 814 00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:42.960 you know, with Oppenheimer kind of getting it, you know, 815 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.400 a bit of a Glaze a couple of years ago 816 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.920 because of his movie and him be would you call 817 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.599 him maybe not a folk hero, but somebody who did 818 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.360 fight against the very thing he created. That's sort of 819 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.440 a storied life right there. 820 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:57.199 That's interesting because I can see that I don't know. 821 00:38:57.719 --> 00:38:59.960 I mean, because he's and and I wouldn't say it 822 00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.199 if he what didn't so ardently through his life fight 823 00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.679 to stop the thing that he created? Right It sounds 824 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:10.199 like it's such an interesting story or not lore because 825 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.679 it's true, but it's such an interesting story to be 826 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:13.280 built up on. 827 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.840 It becomes Laura and I think that'll be fascinating to 828 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:18.559 see how it plays out, you know, Yeah, what is 829 00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.760 the lasting It really depends on what the lasting impact 830 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:23.000 is because once again. 831 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.000 We're all gonna forget. Somebody's going to pick up a 832 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:30.679 book about Oppenheimer and be like, wait, what's here? They 833 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:31.559 all go off on once. 834 00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:35.320 Yeah. No, I think Oppenheimer is an interesting tale because 835 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.559 his was out of a level of regret, you know, 836 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.480 about understanding what he created and went, oh no, this 837 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:43.760 can be wielded by whom. Yeah, that's terrifying. So I 838 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:46.599 wonder about Oppenheimer. I wonder where he says, he's not 839 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.880 the Einstein who's become sort of the legend of physics, 840 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.199 the master of physics. You know, he's kind of become 841 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.199 a folk hero in his own sense. Yeah, I think 842 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:57.440 that's one. The Hawking Stephen Hawking, that's more of a 843 00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.920 folk hero because most people don't even understand what he's saying, 844 00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:01.840 you know, like you try to read it and it's like, 845 00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.000 I don't what is this? Why am I here? 846 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:10.599 Very confused? Catch you through? What do you think about 847 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.719

like Malcolm X Martin, Luther King Junior? Like are they 848 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.719 folk heros comparatively to maybe like Bobby Seal who ran 849 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.679 the Black Panthers, And we're learning more about the truth 850 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:21.119 of what the Black Panthers really were. 851 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.519 We're learning more about the truth of the Black Panthers 852 00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:25.239 and what they were trying to be and what they 853 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.880 started as and what they were before they were villainized 854 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.559 and taken over and then changed and bastardized through many 855 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.000 different elements which happens. I mean, tea party did the 856 00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.119 same thing. A lot of these these things start as 857 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:41.000 a good, good point and then turn into something else. 858 00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:43.880 You know, Sons of Liberty started pretty great, and we 859 00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.199 still have Sam Adams that we all love love him. 860 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.559 But yeah, I don't know, man, I that's all. I 861 00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:52.719 lost my train of thought. I'm sorry. I got to 862 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.719 pull it back in. I've got too many things right 863 00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:55.719 now before. 864 00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.280 I'm not even bringing up that guy's name around as 865 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:04.039 we're sorry. Now, no hero whatsoever they're But to your point, like, 866 00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.159 is there will there ever be like these urban legend 867 00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:08.559 type of folk heroes that come back? 868 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.199 Okay, okay, So first of all, and now I remember 869 00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:12.840 the point I was on, and when it comes to 870 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:15.199 the Civil rights movement, those are absolutely folk heroes. There 871 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.840 are people standing up for a smaller group that you 872 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:19.639 know doesn't have a voice, and they're giving a voice 873 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:23.719 to that. So, Malcolm x MLKA one thousand percent are 874 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.639 folk heroes. They are beyond the legend of what they were, 875 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:29.679 of the men they were. And I think that's what 876 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:31.840 it is. You grow beyond the man, and once you 877 00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.000 do that, you're you're in the league of folk heroes. 878 00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:39.199 So i'd say them Rosa Parks absolutely all folk heroes. 879 00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:41.320 And we can really look at the civil rights era 880 00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.159 and there's a whole lot of them. Bobby Seal is 881 00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:44.920 a folk hero. He's going to become one. He's going 882 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.079 to grow into that. You know,

a lot of these 883 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.199 a lot of these characters are a lot of these 884 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.599 people who came and I do want to bring up 885 00:41:51.599 --> 00:41:53.599 a point to Grandier and what he brought up because 886 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:57.880 we had, you know, the generals, General Patton, General MacArthur. 887 00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:00.559 You know, these were the men that we hear about Ike, 888 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.320 you know, Eisenhower. They've all become folk heroes in their 889 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:06.719 own right as well, because when we talk about war, 890 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.440 we still have Lee and Jackson in Long Street that 891 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.960 we talk about as folk heroes. You know, people are 892 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.960 still villainizing Ulysses s Grant who won the freakin' war. 893 00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.079 You know, he is a folk hero, General Sherman. That means, yeah, 894 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:19.559 you may not like what he did, but he won 895 00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.800 the war, he helped win for the North. So there 896 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:24.639 is always going to be the legend. There's always going 897 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:26.320 to be people who put stuff on paper that's going 898 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:30.679 to be bigger. But I think that those characters have 899 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:33.159 become who they are and where they are because of 900 00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:37.079 the way they what they are. Impact in history was 901 00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.119 and we continue to see that as long as they 902 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:42.440 have an impact in history, yeah, that's huge. We weren't there, 903 00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.039 you know, we don't know, and the people who were 904 00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:48.360 there and who know are gone, So now it's it's 905 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:53.360 pretty much just letters and reports and other third third 906 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:54.039 eye accounts. 907 00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:57.559 Well, to jump on something that Grandezer has said that 908 00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:00.719 about the Kirk Kid, I think the Kirk Kid they 909 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.440 are trying to, like, this small sect, this small group 910 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.840 that really looked up to him, are trying very hard 911 00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:11.880 to push him as this folk hero in America. And 912 00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.599 I from what just based on most of the things, 913 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:18.199 like with Casey saying, I don't one hundred percent agree 914 00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:22.519 on all of those names as folk heros as much 915 00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:26.440 as maybe prominent members some of them prominent members of history, 916 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.159 some of those generals specifically like Pat, and I would 917 00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:34.119 say has maybe reached the folk hero more so because 918 00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.119 his name has been put out there by more than 919 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:37.280 just absolutely. 920 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.079 And it's funny because we don't even hear about Omar Bradley, 921 00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:42.320 the guy who really helped win the war, who really 922 00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.360 was on top of with the troops, who was in charge, 923 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:45.920 who was doing a lot of the stuff. You don't 924 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:48.079 hear about the subordinates as much. 925 00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:49.920 Well, yeah, and I mean the more and more we 926 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.559 go on too, like that, that's really where the folk 927 00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.119 hero sort of lie. You know, it's the outliers who 928 00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:57.719 so I never really see the people who are the 929 00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.039 most prominent in it coming out as the folk he 930 00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.039 I think that's oftentimes people who want to push something, 931 00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.920 somebody like Charlie Kirk or something like that, who want 932 00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.119 to push this to make that level, because you never 933 00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:12.079 go away when you're a folk hero, right. 934 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.440 Once you achieve that, your your voice, your your name 935 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.559 is synonymous with something, some kind of movement, you know, 936 00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:20.920 whether it be you know, standing up for states rights 937 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.159 with the Confederacy. You know, you want to lean on that, 938 00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:25.519 or you want to lean on the good that we did. 939 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.840 I just want to finish at one point. Yeah, sorry, yeah, 940 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:32.719 is when you have people like that, Yes, they are bigger, 941 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:34.920 they made something, they're bigger. So this is where I 942 00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.000 sort of disagree with what you're saying. Hitler will never 943 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.000 be a folk hero. And now I'm not comparing that 944 00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:41.400 kid to Hitler or anything, but like the people in 945 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.480 this administration are really pushing it. They're not going to 946 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:47.159 become folk heroes. They desperately want to be remembered as this, 947 00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:49.559 as these heroes who came in and changed things around. 948 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.400 But because they're they're almost shooting themselves in the foot 949 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:56.280 by being just about hatred. Folk heroes are for the people, 950 00:44:56.519 --> 00:44:59.119 literally for the people and doing what's best for the 951 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.960 people and trying to inspire that. Now I'm not saying 952 00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:05.719 that everyone actually

lived up to that, but the here, 953 00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.599 the folk side of it is what we see and 954 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.440 that is what is the inspiring part. So I think 955 00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:13.079 it really comes down to And it's funny I was 956 00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:17.039 watching and manage that liberty balance this week. Who is 957 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.679 the big theme when the legend becomes fact print the legend? 958 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.480 How do you feel in situations like that as we 959 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:27.800 learn more and more about like folk heros, you know, 960 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.719 you know, and then those start to become more like 961 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:34.039 the true facts start to come out, do you think 962 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:35.440 that should take the status away? 963 00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.679 Well, I mean it kind of depends on here. I 964 00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:42.559 always stand on the bad people can do great things 965 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.880 and good people can do horrible things. So it really 966 00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.800 depends on which side of the argument you're on. 967 00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:50.000 Jeffrey Epstein. 968 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.360 Folk hero, No, absolutely not. He's a nightmare human. Yeah, no, 969 00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:58.480 it's awful. He's terrible. Start even a question, I don't 970 00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.360 think you know, he's no, that's awful. 971 00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:07.280 I know it was a joke. Take a breath, think 972 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:09.559 about it. Know where the source is coming from? 973 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.920 Yeah, no, I don't know, of course, because it if 974 00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:17.519 you learn something terrible about someone, then that changes who 975 00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:17.880 they are. 976 00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:19.960 So you think, because like again, like there are some 977 00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.000 like you read the real Johnny Appleseed and he was 978 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:26.199 kind of a kook, very much evangelist of this time 979 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.039 and things like that, But do you think that takes 980 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:29.760 away from the lore, like the law. 981 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:32.440 You can still have a story, you can still have 982 00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:34.400 the lore of them. You know, it's a kid's story. 983 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:36.840 That's essentially what folk heroes are is what can you 984 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.280 distill down into you know, twenty pages in big font, 985 00:46:41.079 --> 00:46:43.800 large font. You know, that's that's what you're looking at. 986 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:47.039 Johnny Tremaine, the Silversmith kid, you know, kind of the 987 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:50.320 lure a legend created Ichobad Craton wasn't even a real guy. 988 00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.760 You know, it's it's sort of the story of, well, 989 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.239 what's who's gonna come out next, Who's going to be 990 00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.440 the next big folk legend, because who's going to come 991 00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:02.440 out of all of this as that legendary status? You know, 992 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.719 Reagan had that sort of legendary status because he battled Russia. 993 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:10.440 Now that's distilling down what was actually happening between the 994 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:13.400 US and the USSR and everyone involved in all the 995 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:16.000 different you know units in the groups and the CIA 996 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:19.239 versus KGB. It takes all of that out and just goes, well, 997 00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.559 it's one man versus one nation. And that's kind of 998 00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.280 what we saw with like Rocky. Rocky was a freaking 999 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.679 current hero. I would say Rocky is on that level. 1000 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.639 You know, Rocky is someone I could consider a folk 1001 00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:31.519 hero of our time. 1002 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:35.599 You know, Yeah, somebody inspires that, especially in those first 1003 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:40.280 few for sure. Yeah. Number four, I see what you're 1004 00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.599 saying there with that. I like that again though, like 1005 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.719 coming back and like relooking at certain things and how 1006 00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.400 history changed. I could see it more so ruining things now. Yeah, 1007 00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.559 like taking down heroes now because it just feels like 1008 00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.559 it's very like I don't want to say canceled or 1009 00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.239 anything like that, but it's it just feels very like 1010 00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:02.400 we we undercut a lot of our heroes that we're 1011 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:06.840 building up, even if they are faced so. 1012 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:09.199 But I mean maybe there's a truth to it. Maybe 1013 00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:11.800 we're tired of heroes. Maybe we don't want heroes. Maybe 1014 00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:13.679 there's a part of us that are finding to be 1015 00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.119 a hero within ourselves. Maybe there's that we need to 1016 00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:18.920 look deep within ourselves and rally and use all of 1017 00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:22.599 these these great characters through history and take the best 1018 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.679 of them, because that's what we want to see in 1019 00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:26.280 our heroes. We want to see the best of that. 1020 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:29.360 We are so quick to cut down what could be 1021 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.079 an incredible moment. Look, I don't know who Sully Sullenberger 1022 00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:33.880 is as a dude, but I know he did an 1023 00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.800 incredible thing and

save some people. That's a pretty neat thing. 1024 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.280 So his tail and legend will grow, you know, people 1025 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.039 will talk about, you know, him landing in the frickin 1026 00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:45.400 Hudson forever. So that's going to be a huge thing. 1027 00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:48.800 Wait was the East River? No? I think it was 1028 00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:55.480 a Hudson Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's it's that's 1029 00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:57.280 what I think we're going to see more of. I 1030 00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.760 don't think we're seeing. And it's all in the moment, man, 1031 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:01.719 It's all the moment. Who's the hero of the moment? 1032 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.039 You know? So that really kind of comes down to it. 1033 00:49:04.079 --> 00:49:07.079 So when you think about what's happening now, who's going 1034 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.480 to be the thing or the person that steps up 1035 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:12.119 in this moment. It's all filling a void, and I 1036 00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:14.360 think any one of us could do it. Anyone's capable 1037 00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:16.760 of the good of doing that. It just takes a 1038 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:19.400 big step. Neil Armstrong is a freaking hero in his 1039 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.239 own way. You know, people barely remember the other guys 1040 00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.920 on there. They think about Neil or buzz Aldrin. 1041 00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.440 You know, I remember buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins. 1042 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:29.280 You remember. 1043 00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:35.559 You leave that man alone. Somebody had to fly the 1044 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:39.000 ship because they didn't get on the planet. 1045 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.599 Because the plantoid. Same thing. You're almost there, you just 1046 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:44.800 missed the oid. I know you were there. 1047 00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:47.800 Listen. I was a little tired. I got out of breath. 1048 00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:49.239 I need to take a little bit of a break. 1049 00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.440 I'm no folk here, do my best. 1050 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:55.320 But that's that's what's crazy point, you know. 1051 00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.960 I love that point. I just I think about heroes 1052 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:00.800 today and like, yeah, it's a lot of them. Were 1053 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:02.719 the ones that just like you know, the man at 1054 00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.000 Tenement a Square, you know, yeah, yeah, it's just somebody 1055 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.239 like we don't know that man, but like he did 1056 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.880 something that was so much bigger than himself. 1057 00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:15.360 Resonates in time. That picture is that knowing what it meant, 1058 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.400 knowing what was happening and what happened mere seconds after, 1059 00:50:18.800

--> 00:50:22.559 you know, it's just seared in our brains to stand 1060 00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:26.039 up against that tyranny. It's just human nature too, So 1061 00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.519 that's that's becomes well, what's the next tyranny? Okay, well 1062 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.119 then who's going to fight it? And sometimes trying to 1063 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:35.000 weed out what is the tyranny at the time, it's 1064 00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:36.639 not as easy as it used to be there was, 1065 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.679 And it also depends what side you're on. Once again, 1066 00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:41.280 you really think people in Germany were like, no, Hitler's 1067 00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.639 obviously a bad guy. No, they weren't at all. They 1068 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.360 thought they were inspired to do the right thing. 1069 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:47.599 Yeah, sorry, No, no. 1070 00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:53.079 We're not. They're terribly wrong on that side of it. 1071 00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.400 So it's sort of that ald like it's always which 1072 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:56.840 side of history are you going to fall on? And 1073 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.039 that's why it's so fascinating to watch and sit back 1074 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:02.679 and just see what's happening, because it's also it's very difficult, 1075 00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:04.440 and this is one of the things I struggled with 1076 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:06.480 as we were going through it, Like I've been trying 1077 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.400 to play with this back and forth is so many 1078 00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.960 of them. The literary heroes are just changing, very evolving. 1079 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.039 We have Harry Potter, so we still have huge literary 1080 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:18.800 heroes and icons that will be out there. However, as 1081 00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:21.559 a folk hero, it's so much different now because you 1082 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.199 can look back on people like Woody Guthrie who helped 1083 00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:27.440 change music and bring stories to life, you know, through music, 1084 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:29.719 and brought this new music industry that we have and 1085 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.000 was kind of the godfather of all of that. So 1086 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.039 what are we supposed to Who's coming next? You know? 1087 00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:37.960 We do we look Miles Davis was a good one. 1088 00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:41.079 The musically, we have literature, we have music. Are you 1089 00:51:41.119 --> 00:51:44.000 gonna say Bruce, you say Bruce Springsteen? You know Bruce 1090 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:49.960 Springstein's on your lips? No, because no, he will be 1091 00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:52.719 I promise you this, Bruce Springsteen will be one of 1092 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.880 those who transcends. 1093 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:56.679 Always, That's what I'm saying. 1094 00:51:56.840 --> 00:52:00.000 He's always fought, he's always been outspoken, he's always pushed. 1095 00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:03.239 He's still going, you know, he's always put on good shows, 1096 00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:05.320 cares about his fans, which means he cares about people. 1097 00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.760 People want to feel that connection and have that And 1098 00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:09.920 once he's gone, people are going to have the Bruce 1099 00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.679 stories for a good twenty thirty years and then it 1100 00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:15.199 will move into some sort of magical legend. So I 1101 00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:16.000 think all of that. 1102 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:20.400 Is possible, some great music behind it, I definitely agree. Now, okay, 1103 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.280 all right, so what did the scenes Nams have to 1104 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:26.920 do to become full carous? 1105 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:28.760 That's a good one. That's a good one. I think 1106 00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:31.480 we have to find a cause. I think maybe fighting 1107 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:34.199 for libraries. Fighting for libraries is a good literacy. Man. 1108 00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:36.440 I'm all about some literacy, you know. I think I 1109 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:40.079 firmly believe that banned books should be your summer reading list. 1110 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.639 I know, if people are banning books, read those books, 1111 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.760 what are they afraid of? Who's afraid of these thoughts? 1112 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.280 And then and also we're so far beyond that, because, 1113 00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.159 if you think about it, we've grown with all of 1114 00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.280 those stories. So those stories are sprinkled in and exist 1115 00:52:55.480 --> 00:52:58.320 in so many different realms of novels that are out 1116 00:52:58.320 --> 00:52:59.960 there now. 1117 00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.760 I think school for twelve years and my summer reading 1118 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:08.559 lists were the banned books. Yeah, so it's it's blonkers 1119 00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:10.039 to me. I look at the band list now and 1120 00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:14.679 I'm just like you Linco and Poops, you idiots who 1121 00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:18.800 are doing this like, oh, they're bad, they're bed shut up. 1122 00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:22.039 Yeah. I mean when I went to high school in Connecticut, Gohosi, 1123 00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.239 we were able. That was I mean, we read Ketcher 1124 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.239 in the Rye. I know what the cage bird sings 1125 00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:30.639 to kill a mockingbird. I'm pretty sure those thank you. 1126 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:35.199 There's a ton of them that I read that were 1127 00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.880 you know, people didn't want you to read them. They 1128 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:39.480 didn't want you to know. They wanted to keep that 1129 00:53:39.519

--> 00:53:42.039 stuff hidden. Nowadays, now I don't understand how they've all 1130 00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:44.440 been banned, Like, these are good books. These are solid 1131 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:47.480 books that are written by people who took the time 1132 00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:49.559 and had something they believed in. Ken Casey, you know, 1133 00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:51.559 he believed in what he was putting down there. One 1134 00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:54.079 Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. That was a beautiful tale 1135 00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.599 and a wonderful, terrible reality, you know, drawing the curtain 1136 00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:00.840 back and seeing what is really going on. It's I 1137 00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:03.280 don't understand why we're against that in any way, shape 1138 00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:06.920 or form, and continuing to be trans that exactly. Whenever 1139 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.360 someone's trying to control you, like that's generally a form 1140 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.360 of tyranny, which for me just automatically makes me push back. 1141 00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:13.760 I'm just like, no, we don't. 1142 00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:15.880 I don't want to know, which is a big thing 1143 00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:17.199 for me, and I know it's a big thing for 1144 00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:19.320 you as well, for anybody out there who's watching and 1145 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:23.159 listening to this. Like, the best way to be ahead 1146 00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:26.199 of any of this is to read. Yep, go to 1147 00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:29.559 your library, get your books, find out what each means 1148 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:34.159 and what these things think about. Get your Three Musketeers, 1149 00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.679 get your complete works of Shakespeare, get any book that 1150 00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:40.519 you want and learn from it, because everyone in these 1151 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:43.440 books holds it not just a mystical, magical world that 1152 00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:48.000 you can read and be transformed into and just enjoy completely, 1153 00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:50.119 but you're going to learn about themes that you've never 1154 00:54:50.199 --> 00:54:52.079 felt before in your life. You're going to feel in 1155 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:53.920 your core, you can feel in your heart, You're going 1156 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:56.880 to feel amazing when you know them, and you're gonna 1157 00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.599 know you're gonna feel unstoppable. You read and you're going 1158 00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:03.880 to feel unstoppable. I love movies. I watch lots of movies, 1159 00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:07.039 but reading and if you have a tough time reading, 1160 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:11.119 no shame. Pick up a magazine, start there, pick up 1161 00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.880 comic books, start there, build it up, and then say, hey, 1162 00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:16.559 you know, here's a book I've always wanted

to try, 1163 00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:18.880 and try it. If it's an easy book, go for it. 1164 00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:23.000 Who cares? It's something. But there are so many books. 1165 00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:25.920 So many great stories, so many wonderful tales, all at 1166 00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.239 your fingertips, and you're so close to them you're able 1167 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:31.119 to just get them an escape and go to these 1168 00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:33.880 places and allow your own imagination and your own mind 1169 00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:37.000 to be moved by it, and then to create your 1170 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:39.239 own world. Who doesn't want to create your own world? 1171 00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:40.960 I love creating my own world. It's a great time. 1172 00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:43.519 And if you see anybody who comes up to you, 1173 00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.000 it's like, don't read those books. They're bad for you. 1174 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:50.159 Shut up, Just tell them shut your mouth. We no 1175 00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:52.920 longer need you in society because if you want to 1176 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.360 ban books, or you want to ban amazing stories that 1177 00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.400 really teach us and thread the needle of life, then 1178 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.960 you are nothing more than a mess and a disgusting 1179 00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:04.079 human being. And I don't want anything to do with you. 1180 00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:06.679 And there's so many options for these to be able 1181 00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:10.199 to just you can even audiobook it. Man, Look, I'm 1182 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:12.519 still for it. Like I That's how I have to 1183 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:15.199 consume the mind because I don't always have the time 1184 00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:16.719 to sit and read the way I would like to. 1185 00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:19.719 It's unfortunate, but I will always get my stories, and 1186 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.079 it's important to get your stories. If you're going to. 1187 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:23.679 Do that, the only thing I want to add to 1188 00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:26.320 it is close your eyes, lay down and listen to 1189 00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:27.760 it and dream it. 1190 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.880 Yeah, be there, be present. You know. That is the 1191 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:33.199 joy of being able to grab a book and read 1192 00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.880 it and medle the pages, like and it's nice because 1193 00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.639 you're kicking back, you're relaxing. It's something where you're letting 1194 00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.559 your mind go for a little bit. And honestly, look, 1195 00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:43.400 we love screens screens of reality with our life and 1196 00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:46.440 our society and our world. But I deal with somebody 1197 00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:49.760 screens between this and work and everything else that I do. 1198 00:56:49.800

--> 00:56:52.480 It's always screen screen screens. So it's nice to sit 1199 00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:53.599 down and just have the paper. 1200 00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:57.400 It's good, comfortable. Even to your point with the audio books, 1201 00:56:57.440 --> 00:56:59.480 like I said, like sit back, listen to them and 1202 00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:02.840 just live it. Picture it all in your head, the characters, everything. 1203 00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:05.880 Or if you want to get better at reading kind 1204 00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:08.719 of like karaoke it, pick up the book, listen to 1205 00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:11.519 it and read along with it, and it will help you, 1206 00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.639 you know, gain that power of reading. And I promise 1207 00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:17.599 you if you can read, and you can spend time 1208 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:19.639 with these books and not just read. This isn't just 1209 00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.519 like about like oh you can't read. It's media literacy 1210 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.800 as well. If you can do that, if you can 1211 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.239 figure it out, you are going to be so enriched 1212 00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:29.320 in your life and it's going to be so much better. 1213 00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:32.440 It's true. I mean, you want that positivity. Put something 1214 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:34.920 into your life that's going to give you something greater 1215 00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.360 out of it. You know, that's going to open your mind, 1216 00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:40.119 change your perspective, you know, listen to someone else's words. 1217 00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.519 That's why I love reading history books and I love 1218 00:57:42.599 --> 00:57:45.199 reading the classics, like I bring it up a lot, 1219 00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.119 Like you know, I do not love Jane Austen. I 1220 00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:49.679 am not a huge fan because I am not a 1221 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:53.440 woman in you know, Victorian era England. That doesn't resonate 1222 00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.280 with me. However, it doesn't mean that the themes don't work. 1223 00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.159 It doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy it reading it 1224 00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.039 once and went okay, well it's a good story. I 1225 00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.039 can say it's a good story. That just I'm not 1226 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.239 a fan kind of like Twilight. I'm not a sixteen 1227 00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:07.639 year old girl when it's told from that perspective. I 1228 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.159 don't connect to it as much, that's all, But not 1229 00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:12.320 to say don't read it. Find out you might connect 1230 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:15.079 with some different author, you might find some style of 1231 00:58:15.079 --> 00:58:17.159 writing that you were unaware of. You like to read, 1232 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:19.760 you like to have that narration told to you. Find 1233 00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.119 your style. It's out there, and then once you find it, 1234 00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.159 you're locked in and you can just read so many things. 1235 00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:27.559 Oh my god. And for every one of those books 1236 00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:29.760 like and again I'm not saying don't read the Twilights, 1237 00:58:29.760 --> 00:58:31.920 don't read the Hunger Games all that stuff, because they 1238 00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.719 do have some good messages and such and some interesting 1239 00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.199 stories that are built up in them. But also read 1240 00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.320 the classics. Just go back and read some of these 1241 00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:44.719 amazing classics that can really like. And they have all 1242 00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:48.159 different types, all different versions. They have bridged versions, they 1243 00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:51.880 have adaptations that are more suited for kids, but still 1244 00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.320 are books that you can read. Go check those out 1245 00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:57.039 if you want them. They illustrated books and things like that. 1246 00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:59.360 Like I just urge everyone to get out and just 1247 00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:01.920 start reading something. And if you're reading it, tell us, 1248 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:04.960 tell us what you're reading. We're happy to tell you 1249 00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:09.519 right say it right here, Hey, Grandisher's reading Big Butts 1250 00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:12.519 cannot lie and it's a he can't deny it and 1251 00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.400 I love it. No, I'm sure he's not reading that. 1252 00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:18.039 But you know, whatever you're reading, try something different. I 1253 00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:20.159 know we're having this big push at the libraries right now, 1254 00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.760 but it's because they should never go away. Like we 1255 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:26.400 see so many institutions going away that really shouldn't be. 1256 00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:29.199 But that's definitely one of them that should never go away. 1257 00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:32.079 Yeah, the public library is one of my favorite places 1258 00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:33.559 to go when I was growing up as a kid. 1259 00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.360 It was awesome. Is right down the street. I had 1260 00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:38.280 two of them, pretty decent access. I had my library 1261 00:59:38.280 --> 00:59:39.079 card to both of them. 1262 00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:39.639 You know. 1263 00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:41.960 I was able to get comic books and just read those. 1264 00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.639 Sometimes I was just wiling them away the day because 1265 00:59:44.639 --> 00:59:46.840 there were other books that I couldn't afford, but I 1266 00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:48.760 could go to the library and read them. So that's 1267 00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:50.679 what I did

a lot, you know. Or I had 1268 00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:53.079 these child versions, like so I had the kids version 1269 00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:55.280 of Three Musketeers. I had the kid's version of Count 1270 00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.920 A Monte Cristo. So I went out and I actually 1271 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.480 read them the full versions of the library. Now, I 1272 01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:04.199 didn't realize the difference between the kids version of Count 1273 01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:07.320 of Monte Cristo and the actual full version by duma 1274 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:09.679 It's pretty brutal. 1275 01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:11.519 Too. 1276 01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:14.960 It was wild difference, like it was not ready for 1277 01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:18.000 all that. Yeah, it was pretty intense, but really cool 1278 01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:21.199 and made me understand why my parents didn't maybe get 1279 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:22.760 those books for me in the first place. As a 1280 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:25.679 thirteen year old, maybe shouldn't have been reading all that. 1281 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:28.280 A lot of Dumas's books made me question a lot 1282 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:30.159 about the Catholic Church at that time. 1283 01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:33.559 Yeah, I mean between that and also well, I mean, 1284 01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:35.840 you can never trust your friends. That's what the Revenge 1285 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.519 Tale told me, and it taught me I escape prison 1286 01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:40.920 if I'm ever you know, on an island in a castle. 1287 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:44.559 For somebody who Yeah, like, Counts is one of my 1288 01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.719 absolute favorites. It's such a great book. If anybody ever 1289 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.199 gets a chance to read it, you absolutely should. But 1290 01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:52.440 you know, I love Dumas, like, I mean, three Months 1291 01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.360 is one of my favorites too, So he just put 1292 01:00:55.360 --> 01:01:00.920 out some really good stuff. There's so many h just 1293 01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:04.920 throw go to library point someplace and then walk towards 1294 01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:07.000 it and you're gonna find something to read, that's for sure. 1295 01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:08.880 And then go rent a movie because they have movies 1296 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:09.360 there too, and. 1297 01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:11.440 You can watch We have movies there too, that's honestly. 1298 01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:13.760 You can get still audiobooks there. You can get all 1299 01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:16.360 kinds of thing, books on tape, books on CDs. I 1300 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:18.800 still call them books on tape. I'm gonna go go 1301 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:19.400 to the end. 1302 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:24.360 That's hard to argue. Oh my god. 1303 01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:26.320 That's where I would get my John Grishams because I 1304 01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:29.000 could not read a Grisham. I could not read John 1305 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:30.840 Grisham to save my life. I read The Firm. That 1306 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:33.039 was it. I read that and then I was like, Okay, well, 1307 01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:34.800 I really want to read The rain Maker because it 1308 01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:36.679 was such a great movie, but I don't want to 1309 01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:39.280 invest the time the way that was. And I was 1310 01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:40.519 in my car a lot, so I was like, well, 1311 01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:41.719 let me just try this. So I went to the 1312 01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:44.239 library rented it. Boom. It was amazing. 1313 01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:46.079 I suck with Tom Clancy for the most part. 1314 01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:49.440 Oh, Clancy was fantastic. I love Clancy and Dale Brown. Yeah, 1315 01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.000 those two guys. They knew their military stuff and they 1316 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:53.519 wolve quite a tale. 1317 01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:56.840 So good. But guys, as you know, we're going to 1318 01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.880 be playing a charity event coming up to act help teachers, 1319 01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.400 which I think is another thing that is very important. 1320 01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:05.000 We're going to talk about that more in the future, 1321 01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:08.639 but right now begins our big push with helping the libraries. 1322 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:10.719 And we have two organizations we hope you guys will 1323 01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:14.760 donate towards, and that is Every Library. And what Every 1324 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:18.079 Library does is a national political action and advocacy organization 1325 01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:22.639 that helps publics and public and school libraries when funding 1326 01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:26.000 campaigns and fight book bands. We are definitely on board 1327 01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:26.559 with that one. 1328 01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:30.960 Oh yeah, yeah. Not a fan of what they did 1329 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:33.400 to the library in Alexandria. I tell you, when they 1330 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.679 did that, it turned me. I've never been one for 1331 01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:39.159 burning books all three thousand years ago. Yeah, man, hey, 1332 01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:42.800 still hits, still hits. Those silly romans took us back. 1333 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:46.239 Who knows how far they took us back. It's so infuriating. 1334 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:48.880 It's true every time you burn books, you really do 1335 01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:51.920 drag people back into the past in a weird way. 1336 01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:54.559 And then, of course, the other one is American Library 1337 01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:58.760 Association the la ALA. They accept donations to fund professional 1338 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:04.199 development for library, community outreach, and national literacy programs, which

1339 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.920 again extremely important. I'm going to put the links up 1340 01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.960 in the comments again. Hopefully you guys will donate. We're 1341 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.039 gonna be doing a push on this and the episodes 1342 01:03:13.079 --> 01:03:15.760 as we go forth. So just try and help out 1343 01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:17.159 the best you can if you can. I know it's 1344 01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:20.119 tough times, but if any every little bit helps. 1345 01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.800 Every every little bit helps, and especially what we're what 1346 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:24.960 the ask is, you know, it's it's something that gives 1347 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:27.199 us back and has continue to give us back. Teachers 1348 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.480 as well. I mean, teachers have guided my life and 1349 01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:32.280 you know, set me on the path that I'm on, 1350 01:03:32.360 --> 01:03:34.920 and for good or bad or otherwise. You know, I'm 1351 01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.519 so grateful that the lessons they taught have pushed me 1352 01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.840 to positive light and positive direction. So having a place 1353 01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:43.480 to go and having the people and the positions to 1354 01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:45.800 help guide are two of the most important things. So 1355 01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:49.719 libraries and teachers, y'all, those are cornerstones of our society 1356 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.920 and our foundation. Of what has made America one of 1357 01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:55.239 the leaders for as long as they have been is 1358 01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:58.480 because of those people and because of those places. So 1359 01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:00.800 those are institutions we can not let falter. 1360 01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.400 Okay, as you're kind of wrapping up here, I want 1361 01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:09.760 to talk about I want you to tell me two things. Okay, Well, 1362 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:10.239 tell them. 1363 01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:12.840 Well, it was my toe and I was in college, 1364 01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:13.960 so that very fair. 1365 01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:18.079 I remember that I was there. I watched you have 1366 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:24.920 I tell everyone a folk hero they should read, go 1367 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:27.920 and check out at the library and maybe any book, 1368 01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.280 any book that you you want to recommend. 1369 01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:34.039 Okay, gosh, a folk hero that they could read about 1370 01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:34.840 at the library. 1371 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:36.840 I imagine they have to have folk here, books on 1372 01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:37.880 folk heroes everywhere. 1373 01:04:37.960 --> 01:04:38.440 I'm sure. 1374 01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:41.639 Yeah, I mean, just gets your favorite do you think 1375 01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:42.239 they should read? 1376 01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.400

Well, okay that if you haven't read Honestly, if you 1377 01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:47.880 haven't read it about Crane, you've got to read it. 1378 01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:49.960 You've got to read the Legend of sleep Yallow. I 1379 01:04:49.960 --> 01:04:52.320 would one hundred percent push for that. Yeah, that's that's 1380 01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:55.000 a big one. And that's because I think those stories 1381 01:04:55.039 --> 01:04:57.960 are so great and so fantastic and of our era, 1382 01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:00.480 you know, the eighteen fifties. You know, watch Nerving when 1383 01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:03.480 he wrote that. So I think that's one they absolutely 1384 01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:06.400 should read. But as far as a book to just 1385 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:08.960 go get a classic. If I'm going classic, man, I'm 1386 01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:10.880 going Dickens say, if you have not read a Tale 1387 01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.320 of Two Cities, go to the library and get a 1388 01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:15.360 Tale of Two Cities, right, now it is. 1389 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:17.440 That's probably my favorite Dickens. 1390 01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:20.119 Oh, it's my absolute favorite Dickens. Yes, I love a 1391 01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:23.079 Christmas story. It's wonderful. It's a great tale or a 1392 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:27.400 Christmas Carol. But yeah, I got Oliver Twist is wonderful. 1393 01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:30.039 But you know, not everyone loves Oliver Twist. The artful 1394 01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:34.639 Dodger's fine, David Copperfield's kind of boring, very slice of life. 1395 01:05:34.679 --> 01:05:36.840 I didn't care for it. But Tale of Two Cities, 1396 01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:39.679 I think he was his masterpiece. That was his opa stay. 1397 01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:41.880 So definitely go check that out. Mick, what do you 1398 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:42.639 have for your two? 1399 01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:48.320 Well? Folk hero wise and that's a great pull. But 1400 01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.719 to give you another one, honestly, I always liked reading 1401 01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:54.559 about White RB. Yeah, yeah, he is. I mean there's 1402 01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:57.840 a lot of crazy stories about him and put some 1403 01:05:57.880 --> 01:05:59.960 good history there if you especially check out his life 1404 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.400 and stuff like that too. And a book that you 1405 01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:08.199 guys should read. I mean, it's one of my favorites, 1406 01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:10.840 this simple book. But it's one worth checking out. But 1407 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:12.519 we're going to try and do this every week. You know, 1408 01:06:13.440 --> 01:06:15.719 books that we can talk, you know, we can recommend, 1409 01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:17.880 And for now I think I'm going to go with 1410 01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:21.840 the time Machine by HG. Wells. Yes, it's probably my 1411 01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:26.360 favorite HG.

Well's story. And you know, you know how 1412 01:06:26.400 --> 01:06:29.159 I am with time machine movies, so like it that 1413 01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:32.199 kicked It, that move, not that movie, that book because 1414 01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:35.000 I actually never saw the original time Machine movie. Okay, 1415 01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:37.880 because I never and I actually I've only seen The 1416 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:40.440 Time Machine with Guy Pierce once because I never wanted 1417 01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:41.719 it to Sully the book for me. 1418 01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:45.360 Yeah, and honestly it doesn't. It uses all the pieces 1419 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:48.079 that HG. Wells put in there. I will give it that, 1420 01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:50.719 but it's not a great movie. Time Machine movie. Time 1421 01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:53.599 movies are always weird, and they always struggle, and I 1422 01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:56.119 don't know why there's not been one that really really 1423 01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.360 pulled it off. They've always kind of fallen apart a 1424 01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:00.880 little bit. Wait, and it's unfortunate. Yeah, I don't know 1425 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:02.119 of any movies that I think you. 1426 01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:04.920 Really need to you need to check yourself for your riggyrigody, 1427 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:06.079 wreck yourself. Okay. 1428 01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:11.320 Back to the Future one, two, and three were fantastic movies, 1429 01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.119 but there haven't been many that have really tried to 1430 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.280 do it classically. Let me say that, you know, there's 1431 01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:20.519 there's nothing that's tried to go back and touch the HG. 1432 01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.840 Wells Time Machine era style. There were TV shows that 1433 01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:26.000 we grew up at a boatload that did it. Yeah, 1434 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.000 but the movies I think those are those are always 1435 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:29.880 a little hit or miss. 1436 01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:34.400 I'll take them though. Time Cop was great. Shut up, oh, 1437 01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:35.079 shut up time. 1438 01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:37.880 I love time. I love time. 1439 01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:42.519 I love time machine movies. But you're not wrong, like 1440 01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:45.199 I can't. I'm not like Back to the Future side, 1441 01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.679 You're not wrong. They do have their problems, for sure. 1442 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:50.079 Yeah, and it's well And I don't even mean that 1443 01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:52.000 they have problems like they're bad. I mean they just 1444 01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:54.960 never took off, like box office wise, it's really only 1445 01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:57.800 been Back to the Future that ever really held any 1446 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:01.320 credence with the time, with any time travel movies. I mean, 1447 01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:03.679 Looper didn't do super well, even though it was a 1448 01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:04.840 fantastic movie. 1449 01:08:05.199 --> 01:08:06.880 Yeah, I Likeoper, it was different. 1450 01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:09.920 Time Machine didn't do great. Clock Stoppers didn't do great. 1451 01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:13.239 What was it? What was the what's the John. 1452 01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:14.599 Frakes movie that was Clockstoppers? 1453 01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:18.159 Yeah, clock Stoppers, yep, yep. And then was it Time Jumpers? 1454 01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:22.880 Jumpers Jumpers? Okay, yeah, you're right. None of them really 1455 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:25.239 ever took off. Like but again, like I don't. I 1456 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:28.079 think when it comes to time travel like that book, 1457 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:31.239 like that HG. Wells book, it has to capture your 1458 01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:33.359 imagination as the best bet. 1459 01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:36.479 Absolutely, yeah. And it has to make sense. That's the 1460 01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:38.359 other part is it has to have some sort of 1461 01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.600 some sort of something that resonates within us. They she Wells. 1462 01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:44.399 It's a matter of there's the adventure. It's the sense 1463 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:47.399 of adventure as he's going through, and he's because he's victorious. 1464 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:51.039 He did it, he succeeded in his in what he's doing. 1465 01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:53.520 And then he just kind of well, you have to 1466 01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:54.199 read to find out. 1467 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.479 Yes, please do. And we're going to actually start doing 1468 01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:59.880 something like that on the show, where we are going 1469 01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:02.640 to be taking out some of our favorite books and 1470 01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:04.920 reading the first chapter to you and we will have 1471 01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.680 it as a video on the on the on the channel, 1472 01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.000 So you gotta subscribe over there. But I think that's 1473 01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:12.319 important if we can, if we can kick off what 1474 01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:15.279 excites us and and and maybe read those first chapters 1475 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.159 with you guys, maybe you'll jump on and want to 1476 01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:20.359 do it. And Uh, to Grandizer's point here, he has 1477 01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:22.399 to renew his library card too. We hope all you 1478 01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:24.560 guys will go check them out. Yep. 1479 01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:27.520 Absolutely, we're gonna have ours rock and rolling ready to roll. 1480 01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:31.079 Should we start with these books like the ones that 1481 01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:32.840 we recommend. Do you think we should go ahead and 1482 01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:34.840 just do that as our first reads? Read the chapter

1483 01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.119 the time Machine and I'll do one of Tail two Cities. 1484 01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:41.319 Yeah, I like that. Let's let's coordinate with it off 1485 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:43.880 the air and then we'll uh perfect because I have that. 1486 01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:45.600 I think I have Tells two Cities. I think I 1487 01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:48.199 had the complete work of Dickens nice, and I like 1488 01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:49.960 I got to a point in my like where I've 1489 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.720 combined and like had to consolidate my book collection for 1490 01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:57.880 so long, like certain ones like Shakespeare, Doyle's work, the 1491 01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:01.039 Sherlock Holmes make Up the Plea Trail Holmes and stuff 1492 01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:02.880 like that. It's just it became easier to do. 1493 01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:06.199 Oh one hundred percent agree, Like the compendiums are life 1494 01:10:06.399 --> 01:10:08.119 just for the sake of shelf space. 1495 01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:13.720 Very fair. But guys, yeah, well, I think kind of 1496 01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:15.880 winding down now case, is there anything you want to 1497 01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:19.439 take away on this from what we learned tonight? 1498 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.880 Yeah, I think I think the American folk hero is 1499 01:10:22.920 --> 01:10:25.680 not dead. I think overall, I think the American folk 1500 01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:27.920 hero is still alive and well, I think we have 1501 01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:31.079 plenty of them that have breached through the modern era, 1502 01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:33.560 as we discussed earlier, whether it be civil rights or 1503 01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:38.399 any wars or anything where the just we're you know, 1504 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:41.479 breaking through the unjust, and I think that's still happening. 1505 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:44.119 I think it'll be very interesting to keep our eyes 1506 01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:46.279 out to see who will rise up and be the 1507 01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:50.199 next great legends in the American tale. So I appreciate 1508 01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:52.880 you all. Thank you as always. This has been a hoot, 1509 01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:56.000 my friend, great time. What do you have to do 1510 01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:59.920 say for your wrap up for this conversation on American folks? 1511 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.159 I do the more technical i'll put on this, but 1512 01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:05.800 I will say this, like I think I think the 1513 01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:07.560 Mick and the Madman could be in the running for 1514 01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:10.079 folk heroes one day. Just depends on what we do. 1515 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:13.520 I mean, we've even seen Spider Man saved in Minneapolis 1516 01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:16.960 this week by punching out a Nazi, so you gotta 1517 01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:17.359 love it. 1518 01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:20.079 Hey, maybe Sarah McLaughlin a Canadian folk hero. 1519 01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:24.600 So just follow us at the scenes. 1520 01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:26.760 But I do love everybody. Thank you guys for showing 1521 01:11:26.760 --> 01:11:28.720 and hope we were fun and entertaining. 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But 1550 01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.039 until then, like the man says, you got to take 1551 01:12:36.039 --> 01:12:38.840 care of yourself. That's what's important. And until then, be 1552 01:12:39.000 --> 01:13:00.119 kinriewind and we'll talk to you soon. Take care, m. 1553 01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:16.880 Hi, just wrapping up your podcast. 1554 01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:19.039 Don't let the door hit you with a good lord, 1555 01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:19.720 split you my