Full Transcript for Trump’s Strategy, Midterm Fallout & The Road to 2028

00:04:58.110 think we have that clip. Ah, I apologize. We do 67 00:04:58.149 --> 00:05:00.439 not have the clip. But the president agreed with him. 68 00:05:00.449 --> 00:05:05.269 It's interesting to me also that Donald Trump Jr. reposted 69 00:05:05.629 --> 00:05:10.600 Vance's critique of the war. So, look, I think Marco 70 00:05:10.620 --> 00:05:16.899 Rubio gave, I think, extraordinary testimony about the dangers of 71 00:05:17.290 --> 00:05:23.759 of a nuclear Iran. And it's abundantly clear that Trump, 72 00:05:24.319 --> 00:05:27.040 I think he's forthright about this. He didn't pick the 73 00:05:27.300 --> 00:05:31.019 politically popular course. He did what he thought was right 74 00:05:31.060 --> 00:05:34.970 for the country. Republicans have paid a terrific cost for it. 75 00:05:35.230 --> 00:05:40.850 Of that, there is no doubt. Meanwhile, people post online 76 00:05:40.910 --> 00:05:43.379 that Marco Rubio is resigning to run for president. He 77 00:05:43.750 --> 00:05:47.870 denies it flatly to the independent. They run the headline anyway. 78 00:05:48.649 --> 00:05:54.500 His mastery, I think, of foreign policy has impressed many. 79 00:05:54.600 --> 00:05:58.259 I've supported him back from the time that he came 80 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:01.680 as the House Speaker and challenged Charlie Crist, the sitting 81 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.189 Republican governor, who would later become an independent, later become 82 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.569 a Democrat, and later run for governor, and later run 83 00:06:08.610 --> 00:06:11.730 for Congress. He's now running for, yes, believe it or not, 84 00:06:11.790 --> 00:06:15.639 the mayor of St. Petersburg. It's like that old joke, 85 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.199 a Republican, a Democrat, and an Independent walk into a 86 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:22.379 bar and the bartender says, hey, Charlie Crist, how are you? 87 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:28.339 In any event, Rubio has been very forthright. He says 88 00:06:28.379 --> 00:06:30.639 he's not running for president. He said on numerous occasions 89 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.439 that he would support J.D. Vance should Vance decide to 90 00:06:34.490 --> 00:06:38.750 be a candidate. There were reports, interestingly enough, that within 91 00:06:38.790 --> 00:06:41.170 hours of the polls closing and the results being seen, 92 00:06:41.209 --> 00:06:45.600 that a very close advisor, and friend to the vice president, J.D. Vance, 93 00:06:46.180 --> 00:06:50.500 called him and told him, you know, maybe 2028 is 94 00:06:50.540 --> 00:06:54.860 not your year. And of course, at his age and 95 00:06:56.899 --> 00:07:02.509 one term of the vice presidency on him, he's only 96 00:07:02.509 --> 00:07:06.069 40 years old. He could run in four years, eight years, 97 00:07:06.069 --> 00:07:08.029 10 years. He doesn't have to run. We all assume 98 00:07:08.050 --> 00:07:10.230 that he's running. I don't think he's made a decision 99 00:07:10.250 --> 00:07:13.360 to run. But here is the president agreeing with the 100 00:07:13.379 --> 00:07:29.689 analysis of J.D. Vance. I knew he was I know 101 00:07:29.730 --> 00:07:31.389 how he feels about it. I think it was I 102 00:07:31.410 --> 00:07:34.290 think it was fine. I thought it was good. We 103 00:07:34.329 --> 00:07:36.250 knew that. I know that. I knew that when I 104 00:07:36.290 --> 00:07:40.029 went in. and we stop them from having a nuclear weapon, 105 00:07:40.110 --> 00:07:42.810 and they will never have a nuclear weapon. The vice 106 00:07:42.850 --> 00:07:44.149 president wrote a very. 107 00:07:45.740 --> 00:07:50.519 So those who are trying to excommunicate Vance from the 108 00:07:50.740 --> 00:07:54.819 MAGA movement as he looks to see whether the pieces 109 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:59.939 of the coalition can be reassembled, I think have it 110 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:03.660 wrong in this particular case. The president has explained why 111 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.100 he did what he did, and Republicans either way, anyway, 112 00:08:06.139 --> 00:08:11.819 look at it. they are paying a horrific price. I 113 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:15.689 think the mishandling of the Epstein files is a minor 114 00:08:15.889 --> 00:08:18.449 added factor here, but it's the decision to attack Iran, 115 00:08:18.930 --> 00:08:23.730 which escalated fuel prices, are probably still the leading reason 116 00:08:23.810 --> 00:08:32.610 why Republicans lost. Whether or not the Trump administration coalition 117 00:08:32.629 --> 00:08:36.490 can be reassembled remains to be seen. Remember, At the 118 00:08:36.509 --> 00:08:39.549 beginning of this cycle, the concern was that Republicans or 119 00:08:39.610 --> 00:08:43.149 pro-Trump voters would not vote, and the polls showed a 120 00:08:43.190 --> 00:08:50.399 lack of enthusiasm, and that was problematic. Give Susie Wiles 121 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.519 and James Blair and their political operation credit, they did 122 00:08:54.059 --> 00:08:57.539 solve that problem. Actually, Republicans turned out to be quite good. 123 00:08:57.620 --> 00:08:59.960 It was patchy in just a few places, but by 124 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:04.080 and large, that and the president's hard campaigning got out 125 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.000 the vote. The problem was, as J.D. Vance has pointed 126 00:09:07.059 --> 00:09:10.019 out roughly half those people were voting against us, a 127 00:09:10.159 --> 00:09:13.690 protest vote. They were not voting for socialism or communism 128 00:09:13.769 --> 00:09:17.009 or necessarily even for Democrats, I don't believe. They were 129 00:09:17.049 --> 00:09:20.129 registering their displeasure because they were promised no new wars 130 00:09:20.190 --> 00:09:23.450 and they were promised lower gas prices and lower food 131 00:09:23.490 --> 00:09:28.309 prices and less inflation, and that wasn't happening. I do 132 00:09:28.509 --> 00:09:31.870 draw your attention to not only his

previous four years 133 00:09:31.950 --> 00:09:34.309 as president where he built a boom economy that he 134 00:09:34.350 --> 00:09:40.120 was forced to destroy, through the COVID pandemic measures. But 135 00:09:40.149 --> 00:09:43.820 in the first year of this administration, gas was below 136 00:09:43.820 --> 00:09:46.879 $ 3 a gallon. Food prices were coming down. They weren't 137 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:49.659 coming down to the level they had been at the 138 00:09:50.019 --> 00:09:52.000 last year of Trump's term, but they were on their 139 00:09:52.070 --> 00:09:55.929 way down. He was correctly fighting with the Federal Reserve Board, 140 00:09:55.950 --> 00:09:58.870 which based on the inflation rate and the interest rate, 141 00:09:59.350 --> 00:10:01.929 we should have had a deeper cut in interest rates. Instead, 142 00:10:01.950 --> 00:10:05.509 we got no cut at all because Jerome, too late, 143 00:10:05.669 --> 00:10:09.000 Powell played games with the rates. But we were on 144 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.799 our way to the golden age until the president felt 145 00:10:11.860 --> 00:10:15.080 the need to intercede in this war. For those who 146 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:17.860 say he's controlled by Israel, he cut Israel off this week. 147 00:10:18.179 --> 00:10:22.190 No longer will we be paying them $ 4 billion a year. 148 00:10:23.070 --> 00:10:26.870 So I think the facts here are abundantly clear. The 149 00:10:26.889 --> 00:10:29.590 knives are out for Pete Hegseth in a big way. 150 00:10:29.610 --> 00:10:32.269 We'll talk about that when we come back. And my God, 151 00:10:32.289 --> 00:10:39.090 they just discovered that Laura Loomer, I guess you would 152 00:10:39.110 --> 00:10:45.500 call her the investigative journalist and influencers, actually paid for 153 00:10:45.860 --> 00:10:48.919 some of the things that she tweets. that's not surprising. 154 00:10:48.980 --> 00:10:52.840 Anybody's been paying attention. It also is not necessarily illegal, 155 00:10:52.860 --> 00:10:55.570 but we'll talk about that on the other side as well. 156 00:10:56.470 --> 00:10:59.289 If you love politics, you're in the right place. Joining 157 00:10:59.330 --> 00:11:02.909 us today, General Michael Flynn will tell us about whether 158 00:11:02.950 --> 00:11:06.549 he thinks the country can be saved. Anthony Constantino, who 159 00:11:06.970 --> 00:11:10.350 won the seat of the retiring Elise Stefanik in an 160 00:11:10.490 --> 00:11:12.899 epic battle at the top of New York. And then 161 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.990 we'll talk about Ron DeSantis and his soft launch of 162 00:11:17.049 --> 00:11:20.509 his presidential campaign. It's all here in the Stone Zone 163 00:11:20.750 --> 00:11:23.629 on the Roger Stone Show. So don't go away. Stay 164 00:11:23.669 --> 00:11:27.139 with us online or don't touch that dial because we'll 165 00:11:27.179 --> 00:11:34.159 be right back. And we're back. The Washington Post pushes 166 00:11:34.299 --> 00:11:37.179 a breathless piece in which they have discovered that the 167 00:11:37.779 --> 00:11:44.450 influencer and self-described investigative journalist Laura Loomer is paid to 168 00:11:44.690 --> 00:11:49.070 push things on social media. I can't believe that anyone 169 00:11:49.110 --> 00:11:51.529 believes that this is a news story. I've suggested this 170 00:11:51.590 --> 00:11:55.580 for some time. There are influencers who have a large 171 00:11:55.700 --> 00:11:59.100 public following and live in doing this. She would only 172 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.100 have the requirement, obviously she has to pay taxes on 173 00:12:02.139 --> 00:12:04.620 whatever money she makes, but she would only be required 174 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:11.889 to disclose that these were, shall we say, sponsored posts, 175 00:12:11.929 --> 00:12:14.570 and that is if she was working for a foreign country. 176 00:12:14.629 --> 00:12:18.690 Under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, for example, she was 177 00:12:18.870 --> 00:12:22.610 paid by the government of Israel, which I have never alleged. 178 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:27.700 She would be required to file that disclosure, to file 179 00:12:27.740 --> 00:12:30.399 with the State Department, with the House, I believe it is, 180 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:33.879 and also attach it to everything she posts. The same 181 00:12:33.899 --> 00:12:37.679 would be equally true of Ukraine. The head-scratcher for me 182 00:12:37.779 --> 00:12:40.370 is your flip on your screen. Ukraine. In other words, 183 00:12:41.289 --> 00:12:45.110 why would she go from correctly identifying Zelensky as a 184 00:12:45.169 --> 00:12:48.740 Nazi who deals with other Nazis to ultimately becoming his 185 00:12:49.149 --> 00:12:53.860 new PR machine? But it's really, there's not much of 186 00:12:53.919 --> 00:12:57.539 a story here. Laura lost me when she unilaterally tried 187 00:12:57.580 --> 00:13:02.090 to destroy Tulsi Gabbard based on the false claim that 188 00:13:02.139 --> 00:13:06.049 Gabbard was going to resign from the administration abruptly in 189 00:13:06.110 --> 00:13:09.889 order to embarrass the president. She did end up resigning, 190 00:13:09.929 --> 00:13:14.090 but she resigned because her husband contracted an extraordinarily rare 191 00:13:14.289 --> 00:13:18.009 form of cancer. And she sat out the campaign largely 192 00:13:18.070 --> 00:13:21.679 because she was sitting at his bedside. So she lost 193 00:13:21.740 --> 00:13:24.899 me at that juncture. You know, way back in the 194 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:30.419 probably the 80s, I was in a coalition to reform 195 00:13:30.659 --> 00:13:36.500 New York's draconian Rockefeller drug laws. Running for re-election in 1970, 196 00:13:36.500 --> 00:13:39.039 Rockefeller needed to move to the right, and he'd put 197 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.419 in place some of the most unfair draconian drug laws 198 00:13:42.460 --> 00:13:46.289 that I think unfairly targeted those in

the minority community. 199 00:13:46.750 --> 00:13:50.169 I was on a coalition to change the Rockefeller drug laws. 200 00:13:50.210 --> 00:13:54.309 I got to see Hakeem Jeffries, when he was a settlement, 201 00:13:54.330 --> 00:13:58.610 speak and take his measure. I've actually always, I've certainly 202 00:13:58.629 --> 00:14:02.419 respected him then as an settlement, despite the fact that 203 00:14:02.460 --> 00:14:06.740 he is very definitely a with the left of his party. 204 00:14:06.779 --> 00:14:11.220 He's attacked me on numerous occasions. But he is and 205 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:15.539 has been, through his entire career, a strong supporter of Israel. 206 00:14:16.179 --> 00:14:23.899 He's also been a critic of Hamas. And it outrages 207 00:14:23.940 --> 00:14:27.250 me now that those on the extreme left don't want 208 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:30.389 to let him become the speaker. I think he has 209 00:14:30.769 --> 00:14:33.649 earned this right. He's a partisan. We are not friends. 210 00:14:33.710 --> 00:14:35.909 I'm not trying to say that we are. But I 211 00:14:35.950 --> 00:14:41.759 think that he is an old-fashioned Democrat being pushed by 212 00:14:41.840 --> 00:14:44.799 the left of his party. Mark Ruffalo, the movie star, 213 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:49.600 has a petition he's circulating that says that Hakeem Jeffries 214 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:54.330 should not be the next speaker. They want AOC or 215 00:14:54.350 --> 00:14:58.289 Rashida Tlaib or Ilhan Omar to deliver someone more radical 216 00:14:58.809 --> 00:15:03.009 or anti-Semitic or communistic in their views. Hakeem Jeffries, though 217 00:15:03.029 --> 00:15:06.830 he believes and pushes some very left-wing agendas, he isn't 218 00:15:06.909 --> 00:15:11.169 evidently radical enough for this group within the party. The 219 00:15:11.190 --> 00:15:13.120 other thing I can tell you is that Chuck Schumer, 220 00:15:13.129 --> 00:15:16.299 the poor fellow, is an endangered species. Having looked at 221 00:15:16.379 --> 00:15:20.259 polls in New York State for the last six months, 222 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:24.379 I've never seen a higher disapproval rating. If AOC were 223 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.610 to challenge Chuck Schumer in the primary, I think Chuck 224 00:15:27.990 --> 00:15:32.370 would be toast. Beyond that, John Thune has said his 225 00:15:32.409 --> 00:15:35.129 intent to remain as the Senate Republican leader. We're going 226 00:15:35.149 --> 00:15:38.289 to talk about why that's a terrible idea. Coming up 227 00:15:38.509 --> 00:15:42.820 with my good friend, General Michael Flynn. They sometimes call 228 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:46.360 us the Flynn Stones. We are good friends, but the 229 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:48.679 people calling us that are not trying to do us 230 00:15:48.779 --> 00:15:51.740 a favor. Thank you for joining us today in the 231 00:15:51.779 --> 00:15:54.850 Stone Zone. If you love politics, you're in the right place. 232 00:15:55.549 --> 00:15:58.730 Pete Hegseth under attack. We'll get to that before the 233 00:15:58.850 --> 00:16:07.129 end of the show as well. Welcome back into the 234 00:16:07.169 --> 00:16:14.870 Stone Zone. Lieutenant General Michael Finn, who is an expert 235 00:16:14.889 --> 00:16:20.289 in diplomacy, statecraft, foreign policy, strategy, formulation, defense, intelligence, and 236 00:16:20.389 --> 00:16:24.240 other areas of national and international security. He's also one 237 00:16:24.289 --> 00:16:28.740 of the greatest leaders, one of the greatest patriots, one 238 00:16:28.779 --> 00:16:34.899 of a true American hero, and a true champion of 239 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:40.019 this country. He's a fine Christian gentleman. They sometimes call 240 00:16:40.179 --> 00:16:45.320 us the Flintstones. There's this weird subset of right-wingers out 241 00:16:45.360 --> 00:16:49.220 there who somehow believe that General Flynn and I were 242 00:16:49.340 --> 00:16:53.950 undermining the president on January 6th. Actually, Although Michael Flynn 243 00:16:53.970 --> 00:16:56.450 and I were on trial in the same courthouse, we 244 00:16:56.490 --> 00:16:59.980 had exchanged texts and we had a telephone friendship. We 245 00:17:00.019 --> 00:17:04.099 were being persecuted by the same people in their fabricated, 246 00:17:04.299 --> 00:17:07.960 politically motivated charges. Didn't really meet him until January 6th. 247 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.049 Neither he nor I were ever in any war room 248 00:17:12.069 --> 00:17:15.730 in the Willard Hotel, not involved in the efforts to 249 00:17:15.950 --> 00:17:20.829 win a delay in the certification of the Electoral College. 250 00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:28.619 But after his epic struggle with a biased judge in Washington, D.C., 251 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:33.160 rather than just kind of quietly retire, get this government 252 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:37.440 to make a legal settlement, nobody has traversed the country 253 00:17:38.789 --> 00:17:42.289 more aggressively than my friend Michael Flynn exhorted Americans to 254 00:17:42.630 --> 00:17:48.210 get involved and face the challenges that the country is facing. 255 00:17:48.269 --> 00:17:50.750 So I want to welcome him here. And I am 256 00:17:50.910 --> 00:17:52.009 glad you have him with us. 257 00:17:53.990 --> 00:17:57.829 Roger, thank you very, very much for that warm introduction. 258 00:17:59.210 --> 00:18:02.599 And you and I did go through hell. The persecution 259 00:18:02.619 --> 00:18:05.920 that we were put through under the Mueller, the false 260 00:18:07.140 --> 00:18:10.619 Mueller investigation, which we all now know, I mean, it 261 00:18:10.660 --> 00:18:14.779 was just unbelievably corrupt. And yet we have to still 262 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:17.109 live with the consequences. You know, you and I both 263 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:22.559 know that and others that were persecuted by that really 264 00:18:22.579 --> 00:18:28.400 incredible

investigation that was conducted falsely on false pretenses. And 265 00:18:28.940 --> 00:18:31.980 I don't think people realize, many in the country don't 266 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:35.420 realize just how difficult of a time that was for 267 00:18:35.460 --> 00:18:39.210 you personally, for me personally, and our families. And I 268 00:18:39.269 --> 00:18:42.410 still think that we still live with those scars and 269 00:18:42.470 --> 00:18:44.829 always will, but that doesn't mean that we give up 270 00:18:44.869 --> 00:18:48.839 on our country. And that's really the point that I 271 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.059 think we need to continue to make. And you've been making. 272 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.470 So I appreciate being on your show with you today. 273 00:18:54.509 --> 00:18:56.630 The sad part, of course, is that I suspect it's 274 00:18:56.670 --> 00:18:59.369 all about to start all over again. Norm Eisen and 275 00:18:59.430 --> 00:19:03.549 Mark Elias and Andrew Weissman, others who were the architects 276 00:19:03.589 --> 00:19:05.930 of the Russian collusion hoax, which we now know based 277 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:09.460 on the documents declassified by Tulsi Gabbard was indeed that 278 00:19:09.819 --> 00:19:14.019 a hoax, a politically motivated hoax, have not been held responsible. 279 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:18.140 And they are gearing up for yet another round, another 280 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:23.079 tsunami of lawfare. They have some new front group, Democracy Forward, 281 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:27.480 and they're out hiring lawyers for yet another tsunami of 282 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:31.509 fraudulent warfare. And, of course, with Democrats now in control 283 00:19:31.529 --> 00:19:38.069 of both houses, active investigations, I agree with the appointment, frankly, 284 00:19:38.289 --> 00:19:47.339 of the new– White House Chief of Staff, I think 285 00:19:47.420 --> 00:19:52.339 that Stephen Miller is a wartime person. conciliary. And the 286 00:19:52.380 --> 00:19:54.619 tools that he has, I think, are limited. They are 287 00:19:54.660 --> 00:20:01.710 executive power, executive orders, the veto, the assertion of executive privilege. 288 00:20:01.750 --> 00:20:03.769 And all these things end up in court. When they 289 00:20:03.789 --> 00:20:05.430 end up in court in D.C., well, we know what 290 00:20:05.450 --> 00:20:06.369 the result is there. 291 00:20:07.730 --> 00:20:12.660 Right, right. You know, so let's talk about a couple 292 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:13.799 of things here, if you don't mind. 293 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:15.039 Certainly. 294 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:18.500 Looking forward, because I think that's what the American people, 295 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:22.349 probably your audience, because you're always really good about projecting 296 00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:24.930 what might be or what should be. And I think 297 00:20:24.970 --> 00:20:27.930 that's really where, you know, and I do believe that 298 00:20:27.970 --> 00:20:31.910 there is a sense of chaos in the country. And 299 00:20:31.970 --> 00:20:34.589 it's really coming from both sides of the aisle, so 300 00:20:34.609 --> 00:20:37.250 to speak. And what the American people really want to 301 00:20:37.289 --> 00:20:38.609 know is they want to know, are they going to 302 00:20:38.650 --> 00:20:40.930 be protected? Are they going to be safe? Are they 303 00:20:40.950 --> 00:20:43.099 going to be able to do the things that they 304 00:20:43.140 --> 00:20:46.559 want to do in an environment that is not frightening? 305 00:20:47.420 --> 00:20:50.119 When you think about the rise of the Democratic Socialist 306 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.240 Party of America, the communist movement in this country, the 307 00:20:53.289 --> 00:20:57.730 rise of Islamism across different sectors of our societies and 308 00:20:57.769 --> 00:21:01.690 certainly in key states around the country, when you start 309 00:21:01.710 --> 00:21:05.730 to project into the next generation, couple of years here, 310 00:21:06.470 --> 00:21:10.769 what options does President Donald J. Trump still have? And 311 00:21:11.630 --> 00:21:15.029 as the President of the United States, the Commander-in-Chief, and 312 00:21:15.049 --> 00:21:18.160 the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of our country, he still 313 00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:22.079 has extraordinary power and authorities. He is going to have 314 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:25.339 to wield them in an environment, though, that is going 315 00:21:25.380 --> 00:21:32.009 to be controlled legislatively by a very strong Democratic Senate 316 00:21:32.029 --> 00:21:38.799 and a very weakened GOP Congress, House and Senate, weakened 317 00:21:39.099 --> 00:21:43.759 by their inability to be able to support this president's 318 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:47.690 policies over the last couple of years and work towards 319 00:21:47.750 --> 00:21:54.269 things like affordability, economic conditions, really trying to struggle with 320 00:21:54.309 --> 00:21:57.730 this war in Iran. I think the president allowed himself 321 00:21:57.829 --> 00:22:02.329 to listen to too many of the neocons that dragged 322 00:22:02.450 --> 00:22:08.950 our country back into the Middle East. The divide between, like, 323 00:22:08.970 --> 00:22:13.230 40-year-olds and lower, and then the 40-year-olds and above, there's 324 00:22:13.269 --> 00:22:16.960 a huge, huge divide where Trump won that in not 325 00:22:17.019 --> 00:22:20.779 only young white men and women, but the Hispanic community, 326 00:22:20.799 --> 00:22:24.779 the Black community, in the younger age, in the 2024 election. 327 00:22:26.009 --> 00:22:29.069 This particular one, they either didn't show up or they 328 00:22:29.109 --> 00:22:33.190 went for other people. They went for the Democrat Party, 329 00:22:33.230 --> 00:22:35.809 so to speak, because at the end of the day, 330 00:22:36.109 --> 00:22:40.019 the American people want solutions. They want

solutions. And frankly, 331 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:44.480 young people do not want this war. They really don't 332 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:46.400 want this war. But the war was not the only 333 00:22:46.460 --> 00:22:51.849 condition or criteria that people changed their opinion about the 334 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:54.269 direction of our country. It was also the economy and 335 00:22:54.750 --> 00:22:58.890 And frankly, I'd also throw in accountability because one of 336 00:22:58.950 --> 00:23:04.200 the takeaways from many of the elections was corruption. People 337 00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:07.779 were very upset about the level of corruption in our government. 338 00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:12.140 And I think I tie corruption to accountability or the 339 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:16.630 lack thereof. So the president, he's going to need to 340 00:23:17.170 --> 00:23:21.990 do a couple of things. Number one, he must figure 341 00:23:22.029 --> 00:23:25.799 out a quick way to declare victory and come home, 342 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:29.000 so to speak, right, out of the war in Iran. 343 00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:33.680 He has to. He's got to develop a plan that 344 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.549 doesn't drag us further into the war. We don't– America 345 00:23:37.589 --> 00:23:40.069 does not have an energy problem. The rest of the 346 00:23:40.089 --> 00:23:43.109 world might have an energy problem. So when it comes 347 00:23:43.150 --> 00:23:46.019 to the Straits of Hormuz and the barrels of oil 348 00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:49.180 that come out of there, we don't. So it doesn't 349 00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:51.559 mean that we leave everybody out to dry. It just 350 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:54.920 means that we create a set of conditions where the 351 00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:56.740 rest of the world has to take care of themselves. 352 00:23:57.259 --> 00:24:00.680 And the United States isn't the arbiter of how many 353 00:24:00.700 --> 00:24:02.940 barrels of oil comes through the Straits of Hormuz. So 354 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:06.089 he's got to, and I say it simply, declare victory 355 00:24:06.109 --> 00:24:08.740 and come home. That doesn't mean that we come home 356 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:11.859 and hide and put our tail between our legs and 357 00:24:12.859 --> 00:24:15.140 sneak out of the Middle East. No. What we do 358 00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:17.309 is we have to come back with our military. We 359 00:24:17.369 --> 00:24:20.509 have to– I would just say in terms of military ease, 360 00:24:20.970 --> 00:24:23.390 we have to rest, we have to refit, and we 361 00:24:23.430 --> 00:24:27.309 have to reposture ourselves for other enemies, foreign and domestic, 362 00:24:27.329 --> 00:24:31.640 but particularly foreign. And that means the CCP because they 363 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.759 are the wolf closest to the sled, and they are 364 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:38.940 definitely– They're definitely watching everything going on in our country today, 365 00:24:38.980 --> 00:24:43.029 and they sense weakness in our military and our military's capabilities, 366 00:24:43.109 --> 00:24:46.809 our military's force structure, our military's ability to be able 367 00:24:46.849 --> 00:24:50.670 to resupply itself. And they will take action out in 368 00:24:51.250 --> 00:24:55.359 the Pacific, and they'll do it during this very transitory 369 00:24:55.410 --> 00:24:58.059 period of time. So that's number one. The president has 370 00:24:58.099 --> 00:25:02.039 to get our forces back out. We've got to get 371 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.859 out of the Middle East. And what I call this— 372 00:25:05.750 --> 00:25:08.769 For your audience, I call this unwinding the empire. Our 373 00:25:08.829 --> 00:25:11.890 empire right now, we are out in, let's just say, 374 00:25:11.890 --> 00:25:15.769 184 from the 196 countries. I mean, we're all over 375 00:25:15.809 --> 00:25:18.109 the map right now, all over the world with bases, 376 00:25:18.170 --> 00:25:23.359 with military capabilities. We have hundreds and hundreds of forward-positioned 377 00:25:23.430 --> 00:25:27.539 bases and tens of thousands, actually hundreds of thousands of 378 00:25:27.579 --> 00:25:33.450 military forces overseas positioned for different purposes, and we have 379 00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:37.460 to have a complete reexamination of that posture. And I 380 00:25:37.500 --> 00:25:40.099 think that that needs to be done immediately. And I 381 00:25:40.140 --> 00:25:46.210 think that that would be a bipartisan effort by the 382 00:25:46.289 --> 00:25:50.150 sane members of Congress, because there are some ones that 383 00:25:50.190 --> 00:25:52.869 are not, that are really on this, I say on 384 00:25:52.890 --> 00:25:57.259 this socialist movement's And others. So but I do think 385 00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:59.420 that that would be a bipartisan look because it does 386 00:25:59.980 --> 00:26:03.259 cause us to reexamine what America's force posture is overseas. 387 00:26:03.660 --> 00:26:06.700 That's number one. The second thing is the president is 388 00:26:06.740 --> 00:26:08.470 going to have to sit down with the new leadership, 389 00:26:08.950 --> 00:26:13.269 both sides in the legislative branch. And I don't think 390 00:26:13.289 --> 00:26:15.670 he ought to do it in Washington, D.C. You know, 391 00:26:15.710 --> 00:26:19.619 I've called for recently for him to, you know, kind 392 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:21.450 of take a deep breath. I think he needs to 393 00:26:21.490 --> 00:26:24.230 get out of D.C. Don't go to Mar-a-Lago. There's too 394 00:26:24.269 --> 00:26:26.890 many sycophants down there. What he needs to do is 395 00:26:26.910 --> 00:26:29.119 he needs to use a place like Camp David. He 396 00:26:29.140 --> 00:26:32.720 needs to have a very serious discussion with the leadership 397 00:26:32.980 --> 00:26:38.299 of both sides, because the left or the Democrats, they're 398 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:41.059 going to be in a very

powerful position. And there 399 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:45.660 are going to be senators, senators, particularly Republican senators, who 400 00:26:45.700 --> 00:26:49.089 are going to be in the next round of elections 401 00:26:49.130 --> 00:26:52.250 in 2028 that are going to hold very powerful positions. 402 00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:55.250 And these are Republican senators who are going to be 403 00:26:55.289 --> 00:26:57.470 very powerful. And they're also going to be people who 404 00:26:57.539 --> 00:27:01.940 are potentially swayed to vote against him. So I think 405 00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:04.619 what he needs to do is bring these people together quickly. 406 00:27:05.259 --> 00:27:09.799 And also in the conversation essentially would be to sit 407 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.650 there and say, OK, What do we really want here 408 00:27:12.730 --> 00:27:15.529 for America? Do we want our country to become a 409 00:27:15.569 --> 00:27:17.930 democratic socialist republic, or do we want to keep it 410 00:27:17.990 --> 00:27:21.549 as a constitutional republic? Because those are the two paths 411 00:27:21.569 --> 00:27:26.109 that we are heading towards. We are currently on still 412 00:27:26.190 --> 00:27:30.049 the constitutional republic path, but the democratic socialist path, or 413 00:27:30.069 --> 00:27:32.759 what I call a turning point, which is a military term, 414 00:27:33.230 --> 00:27:36.960 I call it a turning point for the direction that 415 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.859 our country could take. So this is very, very serious. 416 00:27:40.059 --> 00:27:45.119 I mean this Roger, I mean this very seriously for 417 00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:47.880 your audience. The president has to bring these kinds of 418 00:27:47.900 --> 00:27:51.380 people together. And then what he needs to do is 419 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.200 he also needs to bring together, I think, outside thinkers, 420 00:27:54.539 --> 00:27:59.809 critical thinkers who are not the folks that he is 421 00:28:00.269 --> 00:28:02.289 sitting around in the White House that have gotten us 422 00:28:02.329 --> 00:28:06.109 to this point, because obviously they did not advise him 423 00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:08.269 well enough to be able to do the things that 424 00:28:08.289 --> 00:28:10.440 we needed to do for this last election. Now, I 425 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.940 would say in terms of Stephen Miller, Stephen Miller is 426 00:28:13.980 --> 00:28:20.589 one of the toughest, brightest, sharpest policy type people in 427 00:28:20.630 --> 00:28:24.170 our government. You know, bar none, both sides or all sides. 428 00:28:24.789 --> 00:28:27.450 And so, you know, and I know that I know 429 00:28:27.470 --> 00:28:30.029 that Trump has an awful lot of time to him 430 00:28:30.089 --> 00:28:32.730 and does listen to him. And I think that Stephen's 431 00:28:33.369 --> 00:28:38.410 experience in Washington, D.C., matters. But there is a global 432 00:28:38.710 --> 00:28:42.900 set of experiences that Stephen does not have, despite traveling 433 00:28:42.940 --> 00:28:46.420 around and being as smart as he is and being 434 00:28:46.500 --> 00:28:49.880 as sharp on certain things that he is. There's also 435 00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.680 a set of experiences that other people have that I 436 00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:54.440 think that are not in the White House right now, 437 00:28:54.500 --> 00:28:57.650 nor even in the Cabinet, that the president needs to 438 00:28:58.089 --> 00:29:01.700 sit down with and say, OK. strategically, let's take a 439 00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:04.279 look at where America is at, what America needs to 440 00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:06.220 be doing. Because if we want to continue to be 441 00:29:06.259 --> 00:29:10.380 the dominant superpower, then we're going to have to make 442 00:29:10.420 --> 00:29:13.680 some very, very hard decisions right now. So that's sort 443 00:29:13.700 --> 00:29:16.789 of the second component of this. The third piece is 444 00:29:16.849 --> 00:29:19.509 really the economics. 445 00:29:19.650 --> 00:29:21.730 General Flynn, let me stop you there because we have 446 00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:24.250 to go to breaks, but you're laying an enormous amount 447 00:29:24.269 --> 00:29:27.650 of wisdom on us as you always do. Folks, you're 448 00:29:27.690 --> 00:29:30.720 listening to The Roger Stone Show with my guest, General 449 00:29:30.759 --> 00:29:50.039 Michael Flynn, and we'll be right back. And we're back 450 00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:52.859 with my friend General Michael Flynn. By the way, you 451 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.819 can go to generalflynn.com to buy his seven books, also 452 00:29:56.980 --> 00:30:00.660 see his incredible movie, plan about the ordeal that he 453 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:04.980 and his family went through. He is still on the rampart, 454 00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:08.660 still fighting for the Constitution and American freedom, and we're 455 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:10.720 glad to have him. General, I'm going to turn the 456 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:12.660 floor back over to you, but let me throw out 457 00:30:12.700 --> 00:30:16.769 this question, if I may. How do you feel about 458 00:30:16.809 --> 00:30:19.769 the integrity of the 2026 election? Do you think it 459 00:30:19.829 --> 00:30:24.210 was an honest election in all regards? And you can 460 00:30:24.230 --> 00:30:25.910 pick it up there, since you have been one of 461 00:30:25.930 --> 00:30:29.329 the most articulate critics of our voting, the integrity of 462 00:30:29.390 --> 00:30:30.319 our voting system. 463 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:34.799 Yeah. So, first of all, do we have fraud in 464 00:30:34.859 --> 00:30:35.440 our elections? 465 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:35.880 100%. 466 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.809 There's no doubt about that. It's been proven time and 467 00:30:38.849 --> 00:30:43.609 time again over many, many elections. So, This particular election, 468 00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:46.970 I know that

there is a big cry for all 469 00:30:47.029 --> 00:30:50.460 kinds of anomalies and all the different machinery. I'm not 470 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:52.019 going to sit here and tell you that there's not 471 00:30:52.299 --> 00:30:54.980 anything there. What I will tell you, though, is that 472 00:30:55.019 --> 00:30:59.420 the last two years, the GOP had the control of 473 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.579 the House, Senate, and the White House. And we couldn't 474 00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:08.220 even pass a voter ID card bill. So, you know, 475 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:14.519 the Save Act, right? So we can't sit here and 476 00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:19.029 cry and cry in our soup here, folks, about a 477 00:31:19.089 --> 00:31:23.490 fraudulent election when we had the legislative branch and the 478 00:31:23.549 --> 00:31:27.180 executive branch. We could not pass a voter ID. So 479 00:31:27.259 --> 00:31:27.559 come on. 480 00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:27.960 And. 481 00:31:28.609 --> 00:31:31.130 And we do know that there's foreign interference. The president 482 00:31:31.150 --> 00:31:34.390 said so. The intelligence community has said so. I mean, 483 00:31:34.789 --> 00:31:37.250 we know that there's foreign interference. Hell, even the Democrats 484 00:31:37.710 --> 00:31:42.930 have recognized it. So, yeah, I'm not going to jump 485 00:31:42.970 --> 00:31:45.630 on that bandwagon because we had an opportunity to change 486 00:31:45.670 --> 00:31:50.380 the system. And lastly, let me just focus on Texas 487 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.720 because there's a big outcry down in Texas. And I'm 488 00:31:53.779 --> 00:31:56.089 actually on my way to Texas right now. There's a 489 00:31:56.109 --> 00:31:57.869 big outcry in Texas that there was a lot of 490 00:31:57.910 --> 00:32:01.779 cheating going on. Well, guess what, folks? Abbott and Dan Patrick, 491 00:32:01.819 --> 00:32:05.180 if you're listening to the Roger Stone show here on 492 00:32:05.180 --> 00:32:10.119 77 ABC out of New York, you guys failed to 493 00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.819 do what you could do for the last 10 years. 494 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.819 You could have fixed the system in Texas five times over, 495 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.089 but you failed to do it. So I don't want 496 00:32:19.109 --> 00:32:21.210 to hear it, folks. I just don't want to hear it. 497 00:32:21.630 --> 00:32:24.470 We are not doing the things that the GOP said 498 00:32:24.490 --> 00:32:26.319 it was going to do. There was a lot of 499 00:32:26.339 --> 00:32:30.819 not only promises made that were not kept, and that's 500 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.180 a shot across the ballot at the White House, but 501 00:32:33.259 --> 00:32:37.460 also the inability for the GOP to support a guy 502 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.259 by the name of Donald J. Trump that had a 503 00:32:39.380 --> 00:32:44.579 full mandate coming in from the 2024 victory, his 2024 victory. 504 00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:47.609 We should have jumped on that bandwagon, and they should 505 00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.190 have passed not just allow executive orders, but passed a 506 00:32:51.210 --> 00:32:54.059 whole bunch of laws. And they failed to do that. 507 00:32:54.180 --> 00:32:56.980 The American people are sick of it. And I'm sorry 508 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:58.839 if there's background noise because I'm sitting at an airport 509 00:32:58.900 --> 00:32:59.599 right now. 510 00:32:59.619 --> 00:33:01.950 We understand. We appreciate you joining us from the airport. 511 00:33:02.690 --> 00:33:05.130 These people are really incredible. John Thune just signaled his 512 00:33:05.190 --> 00:33:08.470 intent to remain as a Senate Republican leader. So having 513 00:33:08.549 --> 00:33:11.440 failed to pass the SAVE Act, which is really pretty simple, 514 00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:14.259 it's just a requirement that one be a U.S. citizen 515 00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.289 to vote in a federal election. and that one have 516 00:33:16.329 --> 00:33:19.450 a picture ID in order to prove it. Perfectly reasonable. 517 00:33:19.930 --> 00:33:23.730 The polls show overwhelming public support for it, but Thune 518 00:33:23.789 --> 00:33:27.650 gets delayed by the so-called filibuster. Even though I believe 519 00:33:27.670 --> 00:33:30.690 there are 51 votes with the vice president, he refuses 520 00:33:30.750 --> 00:33:32.970 to move the ball forward. Now he's running for re-election. 521 00:33:33.579 --> 00:33:37.140 I really hope that Ron Johnson from Wisconsin or Rick Scott, 522 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.839 Rick Scott has turned out to be a fighter who 523 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.619 has been willing to take on the Republican establishment in 524 00:33:43.660 --> 00:33:47.359 the past and either one of them would be much 525 00:33:47.460 --> 00:33:51.309 preferable to another term of John Thune. John Thune is 526 00:33:51.849 --> 00:33:56.890 a Karl Rove creation who's done nothing to forward the 527 00:33:56.930 --> 00:34:00.849 president's agenda. We've got about two minutes left. I'm going 528 00:34:00.910 --> 00:34:02.190 to leave it to you, General. 529 00:34:02.890 --> 00:34:05.549 Okay, thank you, Roger. Let's talk about that briefly because 530 00:34:06.349 --> 00:34:08.829 Ron Johnson and Rick Scott, you know what they don't 531 00:34:08.949 --> 00:34:11.190 want to be? Neither of them have the ambition to 532 00:34:11.230 --> 00:34:14.690 be president of the United States. That matters to me because... 533 00:34:14.940 --> 00:34:17.110 And I know both of them. I've had the opportunity 534 00:34:17.130 --> 00:34:19.010 to speak to them, not recently, but I've spoken to 535 00:34:19.030 --> 00:34:23.070 them over the past year, let's say. And these guys 536 00:34:23.110 --> 00:34:24.889 don't have the ambition to go run for president of 537 00:34:24.909 --> 00:34:26.789 the United States. They want to just do the right thing. 538 00:34:27.210 --> 00:34:28.949 And so I think either one of them

would be fine. 539 00:34:29.030 --> 00:34:33.420 I would defer to Rick because I think that Rick 540 00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:37.139 has the– has the primateur, the stamp of where he 541 00:34:37.179 --> 00:34:40.320 comes from, and also having been a governor as well. 542 00:34:40.409 --> 00:34:44.469 So he's got just a different type of background. So 543 00:34:44.869 --> 00:34:47.610 we'll see what happens. Thune needs to go. Mike Johnson 544 00:34:47.630 --> 00:34:49.449 needs to go out of the House, and I think 545 00:34:49.469 --> 00:34:52.250 we're going to see some new leadership there. Let me 546 00:34:52.269 --> 00:34:54.730 just take 30 seconds and talk about the third point 547 00:34:55.739 --> 00:34:58.420 that I was making prior. I talked about get out 548 00:34:58.460 --> 00:35:00.980 of Iran. I talked about your sort of a strategic 549 00:35:01.739 --> 00:35:03.820 session up at Camp David. The third one is economics. 550 00:35:04.300 --> 00:35:06.619 President Trump needs, and maybe it comes out of a 551 00:35:06.659 --> 00:35:09.059 session that he has, but he needs to figure out 552 00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.199 a way to drive our economy to a point where 553 00:35:12.619 --> 00:35:16.570 our fuel prices are down, housing prices are down. People 554 00:35:16.650 --> 00:35:20.469 feel like they, especially young people, feel like they can 555 00:35:20.510 --> 00:35:22.989 have a family, they can raise kids, and they can 556 00:35:23.050 --> 00:35:25.909 own a home. He has got to make some big 557 00:35:25.949 --> 00:35:28.210 decisions about that right away. And I think that's the 558 00:35:28.250 --> 00:35:31.449 third area for the president to jump all over. 559 00:35:33.010 --> 00:35:34.269 We have to leave it there. I want to thank 560 00:35:34.309 --> 00:35:37.250 my friend, General Michael Flynn, and we'll be right back. 561 00:35:41.929 --> 00:35:46.090 There were very few bright spots on Tuesday night. One, 562 00:35:46.110 --> 00:35:50.010 of course, was the successful election of Byron Donalds as 563 00:35:50.090 --> 00:35:53.340 the next governor of Florida. Also the election of Mike 564 00:35:53.389 --> 00:35:59.300 Mazie in Oklahoma, both good men. But the other surprising 565 00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:03.489 bright spot to some was the election of Anthony Constantino 566 00:36:04.510 --> 00:36:10.409 to the seat of the retiring Elise Stefanik. Anthony Constantino, 567 00:36:10.449 --> 00:36:13.940 of course, is the versatile CEO of Sticker Mule. You 568 00:36:13.980 --> 00:36:15.900 remember him. He's the guy who put the vote for 569 00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:18.539 Trump sign on the top of his factory building in 570 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:22.219 upstate New York, and the local Democrats wanted to put 571 00:36:22.260 --> 00:36:24.239 him in jail. And then when they couldn't put him 572 00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:25.699 in jail, they wanted to fine him $ 1, 000 a day, 573 00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:31.570 but he refused to take it down. He When Elise 574 00:36:31.710 --> 00:36:34.789 Stefanik announced that she would not run again, he decided 575 00:36:35.230 --> 00:36:38.489 to run for Congress. But he also decided at that 576 00:36:38.550 --> 00:36:42.429 juncture that he would self-finance his own campaign. In other words, 577 00:36:43.030 --> 00:36:46.570 in order not to be beholden to lobbyists or lawyers 578 00:36:46.670 --> 00:36:50.639 or big pharma or big agriculture or the defense contractors 579 00:36:50.739 --> 00:36:54.579 or the political insiders, that he would finance his own 580 00:36:54.659 --> 00:37:00.179 campaign with a great slogan, Anthony Constantino says, Nobody's man 581 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:04.059 but yours. But I must say, I was surprised at 582 00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:09.289 the extraordinary level that the political establishment, the Democrats, in 583 00:37:09.369 --> 00:37:12.170 league with the local media in his district, went to 584 00:37:12.630 --> 00:37:15.809 to try to destroy his candidacy. I saw tactics and 585 00:37:15.829 --> 00:37:17.969 things that I have never seen before. We're going to 586 00:37:17.989 --> 00:37:20.789 talk a little bit about this and the role that 587 00:37:20.829 --> 00:37:24.300 the media played. But first of all, Anthony Constantino, congratulations. 588 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:27.599 The state and the AP have now declared you elected. 589 00:37:29.090 --> 00:37:30.639 Thank you. You know, in a few things. One, I 590 00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:32.619 kept a big promise. I said I would sell farm 591 00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:34.019 at the start of all this. I thought it would 592 00:37:34.059 --> 00:37:37.840 cost a few million and end up costing 17 million. 593 00:37:37.900 --> 00:37:40.139 But I like to keep my promises. So I hope 594 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:42.619 people learn that about me through this experience. And the 595 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:45.170 other thing, a lot of credit goes to you, Roger, 596 00:37:45.329 --> 00:37:48.130 because you knew me for about five minutes and you 597 00:37:48.170 --> 00:37:49.550 thought it'd be a good idea that I do this. 598 00:37:49.570 --> 00:37:51.530 So you have a good eye for talent. You picked 599 00:37:51.550 --> 00:37:53.889 that out. And, you know, I appreciate that. 600 00:37:54.630 --> 00:37:58.690 Well, it's important to note that Democrat organizations and Kathy Hochul, 601 00:37:58.710 --> 00:38:02.539 the Democrat State Committee, and other affiliated groups may have 602 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:08.280 thrown as much as $ 14 million into this rural Republican district. 603 00:38:09.420 --> 00:38:13.219 You won the primary. Interestingly enough, your opponent was endorsed 604 00:38:13.260 --> 00:38:16.630 by 12 of 15 Republican county chairmen, by the New 605 00:38:16.650 --> 00:38:21.730 York Republican State Committee, by the leadership of the minority 606 00:38:22.070 --> 00:38:26.099 in Albany. You won the primary by 20 points and 607 00:38:26.139

--> 00:38:29.519 you set a record for the largest number of votes 608 00:38:29.900 --> 00:38:35.179 by a congressional candidate in a contested primary in either 609 00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:42.530 Republican or Democrat. But the shadiest thing that I have 610 00:38:42.590 --> 00:38:45.809 ever seen in American politics, this is really quite extraordinary. 611 00:38:46.530 --> 00:38:49.630 The Siena Institute, which it reputes to be a legitimate 612 00:38:49.670 --> 00:38:54.429 polling organization, actually runs a poll in which they list 613 00:38:54.530 --> 00:38:59.130 Anthony Constantino as the Republican candidate, Blake Jendebean as a 614 00:38:59.150 --> 00:39:02.949 Democrat candidate, but then they put in the name of 615 00:39:02.969 --> 00:39:06.650 a man named Christian Schmidt, whose name is not on 616 00:39:06.690 --> 00:39:10.139 the ballot. Christian Schmidt is a write-in candidate. In fact, 617 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.559 Christian Schmidt had tried to get on the ballot, was 618 00:39:13.619 --> 00:39:18.900 unable to get 3,500 signatures to apply for the independent ballot, 619 00:39:19.860 --> 00:39:23.070 and therefore he was a write-in candidate. No place... Have 620 00:39:23.090 --> 00:39:25.719 I ever seen a polling organization include the name of 621 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:28.590 somebody who wasn't on the ballot? By the way, they 622 00:39:28.730 --> 00:39:32.840 predicted that he would get uh somewhere between five and 623 00:39:32.989 --> 00:39:37.780 eight percent in the end 654 votes across the entire 624 00:39:37.940 --> 00:39:42.619 district uh schmidt uh didn't get even one percent of 625 00:39:42.659 --> 00:39:45.699 the vote and then interestingly enough there was another candidate 626 00:39:45.739 --> 00:39:50.449 brian rouleau who was a a left green Democrat. He 627 00:39:50.489 --> 00:39:53.570 was also a write-in candidate. But for some strange reason, 628 00:39:54.510 --> 00:39:57.769 the Siena Institute did not publish that. So the headline 629 00:39:57.809 --> 00:40:01.900 picked up by USA Today, picked up by Politico, is 630 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:07.760 a shocking new poll shows Blake Jendebeen, Democrat, leading Anthony Constantino. 631 00:40:07.780 --> 00:40:10.139 He was never leading you. They had to rig the 632 00:40:10.179 --> 00:40:15.349 question in a most unprofessional and dishonest way. to give 633 00:40:15.389 --> 00:40:18.550 that impression. And of course, those larger news organizations pick 634 00:40:18.590 --> 00:40:22.260 it up without examining the internals of the poll. In 635 00:40:22.260 --> 00:40:25.940 50 years in American politics, I've never seen anything as 636 00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:27.340 crooked or dishonest. 637 00:40:28.969 --> 00:40:30.369 Well, we have lawyers looking into it. We have a 638 00:40:30.369 --> 00:40:33.449 great legal team. And, you know, I think it's criminal 639 00:40:33.489 --> 00:40:34.869 because a lot of money was made off of this 640 00:40:34.909 --> 00:40:36.989 fake poll. They had a guy that said he could 641 00:40:37.030 --> 00:40:39.619 get 5% of the vote. He got it. Almost no 642 00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.639 votes at all. So they obviously lied to people and 643 00:40:42.659 --> 00:40:45.230 they lied to extract money from the citizens. And so 644 00:40:45.250 --> 00:40:47.869 I think it's a criminal situation. It might be a 645 00:40:47.869 --> 00:40:51.570 civil situation as well. But obviously we have them dead 646 00:40:51.590 --> 00:40:54.050 to rights lying to the American people. How do you 647 00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:56.320 say a guy can get 5% of the vote? And 648 00:40:56.340 --> 00:40:58.179 then he gets almost no votes at all. But we 649 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.039 knew that was the case the whole time. And shamefully, 650 00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:04.699 every single media outlet, the New York Times, all of them, 651 00:41:05.369 --> 00:41:07.110 They all ran with this poll, and they never pointed 652 00:41:07.139 --> 00:41:08.960 out to their readers that it's very strange that they 653 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.920 claim this third-party write-in candidate is going to be a 654 00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:14.619 5% of all, which everybody knew was false. Not a 655 00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:18.340 single media organization did the right thing and clarified that, 656 00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:20.619 which is why I call them evil news. President Trump 657 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.369 calls them fake news. I call them evil. The evil 658 00:41:23.409 --> 00:41:27.829 news also failed to disclose that my opponent, Blake Jendebean, 659 00:41:28.210 --> 00:41:31.869 has been accused of spending $ 10, 000 to bail out a 660 00:41:31.889 --> 00:41:36.579 child predator. He admitted to bailing out an illegal immigrant 661 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.820 with his own money for $ 10, 000. I've since been told 662 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.440 that person was a child predator. The evil news never 663 00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:44.780 once even asked him the question. They just covered it up. 664 00:41:45.510 --> 00:41:47.929 And between this and the fake poll, the media has 665 00:41:47.949 --> 00:41:49.849 a lot of explaining to do, and they might have 666 00:41:49.889 --> 00:41:54.550 criminal liability because there's collusion between this fake pollster and 667 00:41:54.570 --> 00:41:57.570 the media to extract money from the American people. That 668 00:41:57.590 --> 00:41:59.480 goes back to the media. This fake poll was used 669 00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:01.719 to extract money from Americans, and that money got passed 670 00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:02.440 back to the media. 671 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.579 I think the purpose of the fake poll was to 672 00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:10.090 flag for the left-wing PACs and the independent organizations on 673 00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:14.679 top of Kathy Hochul, who admitted that she poured millions 674 00:42:14.739 --> 00:42:17.860 into this race uh it's

interesting blake jenner being actually 675 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.860 briefly put up a tv spot in which he said 676 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.320 that he would work with trump and he would stand 677 00:42:23.380 --> 00:42:26.019 up to kathy hokal until kathy hokal saw it blew 678 00:42:26.059 --> 00:42:28.619 her stack demanded that he take it down he took 679 00:42:28.659 --> 00:42:31.980 it down as like the good puppet that he he 680 00:42:32.059 --> 00:42:35.929 was uh but the disinformation in this race for example 681 00:42:35.949 --> 00:42:41.210 uh that your company sticker mule sells kill the police 682 00:42:41.389 --> 00:42:44.710 stickers let's be very clear Anyone can order whatever sticker 683 00:42:44.730 --> 00:42:48.929 they want, and ultimately, the management finds those stickers that 684 00:42:48.989 --> 00:42:52.710 are repugnant or in bad taste or advocate violence, and 685 00:42:52.750 --> 00:42:55.789 they take them down. Whoever ordered that probably did so 686 00:42:56.190 --> 00:42:58.449 as a dirty trick and was very quickly removed, but 687 00:42:58.849 --> 00:43:01.070 they use that over and over again. There's no one 688 00:43:01.090 --> 00:43:04.769 who has greater respect for law enforcement than Anthony Constantino. 689 00:43:06.309 --> 00:43:11.380 We have superintelligence now preemptively blocking the sale of offensive stickers. 690 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.400 We always had guidelines blocking the sale of offensive stickers, 691 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.820 and the media ran with this to promote violence. They're 692 00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.539 sick people. But the more important thing is who cares 693 00:43:20.619 --> 00:43:23.420 about the past? Let's talk about today and the present. 694 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.889 And I think we single-handedly changed the tone of the country. 695 00:43:27.989 --> 00:43:30.780 Imagine if I didn't win. the tone of the country 696 00:43:30.860 --> 00:43:33.400 right now. It would have been, oh, the Democrats just 697 00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:38.619 crushed everybody. But instead, the strongest MAGA voice in America, 698 00:43:38.860 --> 00:43:40.719 other than the president, that fights for the president, that 699 00:43:40.739 --> 00:43:43.280 stood by the president, that never left his side, that 700 00:43:43.780 --> 00:43:46.420 advocated for him until the very last day, won. And 701 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.820 so the whole country's talking about Anthony Constantino, and they're 702 00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:51.860 not talking about the Democrats, which I think is driving 703 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.860 the Democrats totally crazy. It's driving the media totally crazy. But, 704 00:43:56.019 --> 00:43:57.400 you know, we did a great thing for the country. 705 00:43:57.420 --> 00:44:00.570 We changed the tone of this midterm. if we didn't 706 00:44:00.590 --> 00:44:02.199 have me on the ballot and I didn't win, it 707 00:44:02.219 --> 00:44:04.980 would be a much different conversation in America. But instead, 708 00:44:05.460 --> 00:44:07.599 look at what we're seeing, even on late night television 709 00:44:07.619 --> 00:44:10.340 with the comedians. They're all talking. They're kind of talking 710 00:44:10.380 --> 00:44:13.860 positively about me. The only thing, the only thing about me, 711 00:44:13.860 --> 00:44:15.050 they're not talking about the Democrats. 712 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.530 The only thing worse than being talked about is, of course, 713 00:44:17.829 --> 00:44:20.769 not being talked about. I'm very interested in, you have 714 00:44:20.809 --> 00:44:22.929 given all of your employees a $ 1, 000 bonus. You make 715 00:44:22.949 --> 00:44:29.400 the case online that that huge corporations, large companies, particularly 716 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.750 oil and tech companies, have made billions of dollars of 717 00:44:32.849 --> 00:44:38.110 profit during the Trump administration, and that every major company 718 00:44:38.429 --> 00:44:40.530 should follow what you have done, which is to give 719 00:44:40.570 --> 00:44:43.619 a $ 1, 000 bonus to each of your employees to get 720 00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:47.000 us through this difficult period before President Trump can end 721 00:44:47.059 --> 00:44:49.980 the war and bring the cost of food and gasoline 722 00:44:50.039 --> 00:44:52.989 and the cost of living down. Tell us a little bit. 723 00:44:53.329 --> 00:44:54.650 We have about two and a half minutes. Tell us 724 00:44:54.690 --> 00:44:55.489 about this idea. 725 00:44:56.110 --> 00:44:58.050 My job is to get results for my constituents, for 726 00:44:58.070 --> 00:44:59.949 the American people. And the way you do that is 727 00:44:59.969 --> 00:45:01.949 to move quickly and do big things. And so I 728 00:45:01.989 --> 00:45:04.329 immediately issued a $ 1, 000 bonus to all my employees while 729 00:45:04.389 --> 00:45:07.550 asking other people to do the same, other businesses. If 730 00:45:07.570 --> 00:45:09.809 they can swing it, I want them to do the same. 731 00:45:09.829 --> 00:45:12.449 This is an immediate benefit for all the citizens to 732 00:45:12.489 --> 00:45:15.809 get through this tough time. It doesn't cost the taxpayers anything. 733 00:45:15.869 --> 00:45:17.530 In fact, I think the companies that issued this bonus 734 00:45:17.550 --> 00:45:21.320 will benefit. They'll benefit because... people will be happy they 735 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.360 did it and they'll probably give them more business so 736 00:45:23.699 --> 00:45:25.440 i'm asking everybody to do this i think it'll be 737 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:27.219 a great thing the media just made a ton of 738 00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.980 money off of this election and once again they proved 739 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:33.519 very evil i did an interview with uh nbc news 740 00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:35.699 13 i said this and they cut it out of 741 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.710 their interview they don't want

people to get bonuses and 742 00:45:38.869 --> 00:45:41.530 uh I got to say, I think NBC News 13 743 00:45:41.530 --> 00:45:44.590 specifically now owes each one of their employees a $ 5, 000 744 00:45:44.489 --> 00:45:48.469 bonus for shamefully editing my interview to clip the part 745 00:45:48.489 --> 00:45:51.090 where I say I want all companies that can swing 746 00:45:51.110 --> 00:45:53.829 it to get bonuses. They cut it out. And next 747 00:45:53.849 --> 00:45:55.929 time I do an interview with them and every interview henceforth, 748 00:45:55.949 --> 00:45:58.250 I'm going to remind them that they owe their employees 749 00:45:58.329 --> 00:46:00.269 a $ 5, 000 bonus to start the interview. If they don't 750 00:46:00.309 --> 00:46:02.630 cover it, then there's going to be no interview. All right. 751 00:46:02.650 --> 00:46:05.170 We're talking to Anthony Constantino. He is, of course, the 752 00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:08.010 man who built Sticker Mule, one of the world's fastest 753 00:46:08.050 --> 00:46:14.659 growing online printing company serving over 5 million customers, creating 1,000 jobs, 754 00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:19.679 operating in 100 countries, manufacturing facilities in New York, South Carolina, 755 00:46:19.909 --> 00:46:23.849 and Italy. A proud member of the Italian American Civil 756 00:46:24.269 --> 00:46:29.210 Rights League, Anthony Constantino has won an upset victory, and 757 00:46:29.250 --> 00:46:32.329 doing so in the shadow of the Albany Times Union, 758 00:46:32.389 --> 00:46:38.670 perhaps the most dishonest, partisan, left-wing, hack newspaper in the country, 759 00:46:39.210 --> 00:46:43.980 and a uniformly hostile media that moves in lockstep with 760 00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.400 the Democrats. When Anthony Constantino proved beyond a shadow of 761 00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:51.139 doubt that Blake Genderbean, a man who claimed to be 762 00:46:51.179 --> 00:46:53.539 a steward of the land and a farmer, had been 763 00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:59.039 dumping garbage, trash, and perhaps carcasses in a waterway on 764 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:05.539 his father's farm, producing aerial shots from drones, Kathy Hochul's 765 00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:10.960 Department of Environmental Protection, essentially the DEC, essentially gave him 766 00:47:11.019 --> 00:47:13.909 a pass and they tried to hush the whole thing up. 767 00:47:13.969 --> 00:47:17.829 But Anthony Constantino posted the receipts and he was right again. 768 00:47:17.909 --> 00:47:21.050 His opponent turned out to be a polluter. It's very 769 00:47:21.110 --> 00:47:23.889 hard to get the local media to recognize it. We'll 770 00:47:23.909 --> 00:47:26.130 be right back with Anthony Constantino right here on The 771 00:47:26.170 --> 00:47:28.690 Roger Stone Show. On the other side, don't go away. 772 00:47:28.710 --> 00:47:34.199 We'll be right back. Welcome back into the Stone Zone. 773 00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:39.179 We're talking to one of the evening's winners, Anthony Constantino, 774 00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:44.639 the independent businessman, Trump supporter. You remember him. He's the 775 00:47:44.699 --> 00:47:47.530 guy who put the vote for Trump sign on the 776 00:47:47.570 --> 00:47:52.210 top of his factory, winning a victory in the 21st district, 777 00:47:52.309 --> 00:47:59.739 despite the The governor, Kathy Hochul, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, 778 00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:03.079 who visited the district, probably lost like gender being votes, actually, 779 00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:07.440 comes out a winner, having run a hard hitting campaign. 780 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.340 And one of the few bright spots of the evening, 781 00:48:13.300 --> 00:48:17.610 you may recall that Vice President J.D. Vance, flew into 782 00:48:17.630 --> 00:48:21.789 a rally in Rome, New York, the day before the election. 783 00:48:21.809 --> 00:48:26.130 A huge crowd, 1,500 people. The Albany Times Union said 500, 784 00:48:26.110 --> 00:48:31.880 of course. Extraordinary rally to support Anthony Constantino, who wins 785 00:48:32.010 --> 00:48:35.880 a close race. Anthony, as you prepare to take office, 786 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.820 what would you say that your legislative priorities are? 787 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:43.239 Before I even get there, I want to get the $ 1, 000 788 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:46.210 bonus out to as many Americans as possible. I think 789 00:48:46.250 --> 00:48:47.929 that's the biggest thing. We want to put more money 790 00:48:47.949 --> 00:48:49.650 into the pockets of the people. So I hope everyone 791 00:48:49.670 --> 00:48:52.449 does take that request seriously. Any business that's interested in 792 00:48:52.510 --> 00:48:54.980 doing it, please get in touch. You know, once I 793 00:48:55.019 --> 00:48:56.780 get there, I want to fight for Fort Drum. I 794 00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.579 want to fight to bring... I want to fight for 795 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.900 Fort Drum. I said during the... The campaign, my number 796 00:49:01.940 --> 00:49:04.239 one priority would be operation overhaul. We can overhaul all 797 00:49:04.260 --> 00:49:07.820 the government systems that affect the citizens, everything from the 798 00:49:07.889 --> 00:49:10.610 DMV to how you register to vote to how you 799 00:49:10.630 --> 00:49:14.050 check your polling location. You know, it's hard for people 800 00:49:14.090 --> 00:49:16.429 to find their polling location. We could improve that system 801 00:49:16.469 --> 00:49:19.590 in about two days if we put some resources behind it. 802 00:49:19.630 --> 00:49:21.989 So we should improve all these systems. That'll make life 803 00:49:22.030 --> 00:49:24.769 better for everybody. Fort Drum is in the district. I 804 00:49:24.789 --> 00:49:25.949 want to fight for them. I want to look at 805 00:49:26.329 --> 00:49:29.030 legislation to help our farmers. I want to look at 806 00:49:29.460 --> 00:49:31.199 how we get a fair farm bill through, how

we 807 00:49:31.219 --> 00:49:34.300 get funding for our farmers, how we stop wasting money 808 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.139 on the Chinese solar lobby. My opponent was backed by 809 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:40.409 the Chinese solar lobby. We don't want any more solar 810 00:49:40.429 --> 00:49:41.349 panels on farmland. 811 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:46.409 No, I think those are all very, very worthy goals. 812 00:49:46.429 --> 00:49:48.550 I've also seen you comment about the fact that the 813 00:49:48.730 --> 00:49:52.489 Internet service and the cell phone service in this rural 814 00:49:52.530 --> 00:49:55.070 part of New York is really inadequate and that it's 815 00:49:55.110 --> 00:49:58.659 not just a detriment to business. It's also causes real 816 00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:01.139 public dangers. What do you have in mind for that? 817 00:50:02.150 --> 00:50:04.489 Well, I'd like to talk to a very smart American 818 00:50:04.510 --> 00:50:08.269 named Elon Musk and see if his company, Starlink, can 819 00:50:08.289 --> 00:50:10.980 help us get better internet and cell service. I'd also 820 00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:14.079 like to say to Elon, it would be awesome if 821 00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:16.960 he joined me in the $ 1, 000 bonus idea, $ 1, 000 Christmas 822 00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:18.960 bonus idea. I think he'll like the idea if he 823 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.289 hears it. Hopefully, he might even hear this program. I 824 00:50:22.309 --> 00:50:24.949 know he's a fan of yours. And I've heard he's 825 00:50:24.969 --> 00:50:27.349 a fan of yours. I hope he is. And hopefully 826 00:50:27.369 --> 00:50:29.070 he becomes a fan of mine as well and sees 827 00:50:29.150 --> 00:50:30.630 that I'm here to help the country. I know he's 828 00:50:30.650 --> 00:50:33.670 a great patriot. I'd love to work with his business 829 00:50:33.710 --> 00:50:35.760 to bring internet and cell service to the district. And 830 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:37.300 I also think it would be really cool if he 831 00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:39.500 joined in on the $ 1, 000 bonus idea. 832 00:50:39.900 --> 00:50:41.300 Well, I don't know if he's a fan of mine, 833 00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:43.639 but I'm certainly a fan of his. I think Elon 834 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.159 Musk has done more for free speech and the First 835 00:50:46.179 --> 00:50:52.019 Amendment than anyone since the founding fathers. His website X, 836 00:50:52.099 --> 00:50:54.949 while he's not perfect, is very, very good. I'm there 837 00:50:55.010 --> 00:50:58.679 as Roger J. Stone Jr., Roger J. Stone Jr. If 838 00:50:58.699 --> 00:51:00.880 you see Roger Stone on Facebook and he's trying to 839 00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:03.880 sell you crypto, that's not me. I'm banned for life 840 00:51:04.019 --> 00:51:07.599 on Facebook as I am at Instagram. It's been our 841 00:51:07.619 --> 00:51:12.219 pleasure to be with Anthony Constantino, again, a fighter, a boxer, 842 00:51:12.949 --> 00:51:16.050 a winner, a guy who went the extra mile, went 843 00:51:16.110 --> 00:51:21.110 toe-to-toe with the Democrat media machine in New York State, 844 00:51:21.190 --> 00:51:24.070 one of the bluest states in the country, and emerged 845 00:51:24.380 --> 00:51:27.500 as a winner. Anthony, you have one minute to close 846 00:51:27.539 --> 00:51:27.920 this out. 847 00:51:28.699 --> 00:51:31.739 Yeah, I would just like to say this. One other 848 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:32.920 thing I'd like to get done, I'd like to get 849 00:51:32.940 --> 00:51:35.039 you back on Facebook. If Mark Zuckerberg is not willing 850 00:51:35.059 --> 00:51:36.980 to put you back on Facebook, then I am willing 851 00:51:37.059 --> 00:51:39.820 to get in the ring with Mark and embarrass him 852 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.050 in front of the nation. During this election, I had 853 00:51:42.070 --> 00:51:44.789 the pleasure of training with Henry Cejudo, who, while at 854 00:51:44.809 --> 00:51:47.590 the same time Mark Zuckerberg was training with Marab. Marab lost, 855 00:51:47.650 --> 00:51:50.130 Henry won. That says probably what happened to Mark if 856 00:51:50.170 --> 00:51:52.230 he got in the ring with me. So Mark, Put 857 00:51:52.289 --> 00:51:54.739 Roger back on Facebook. Put all the patriotic Americans you've 858 00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.780 banned on Facebook. Actually, let's go a step further. Mark Zuckerberg, 859 00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.219 the older country, an apology for your abhorrent behavior during 860 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:03.500 the pandemic where you were egregiously censoring American citizens. If 861 00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:05.239 you don't do it, Mark, you're going to have an 862 00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:06.750 enemy in me. All right. 863 00:52:07.329 --> 00:52:13.869 The always pugnacious Anthony Constantino, congressman-elect from New York's 21st District. 864 00:52:13.889 --> 00:52:15.929 Don't go away, folks. When we come back, we're going 865 00:52:15.949 --> 00:52:19.900 to talk about the 2028 race because, well, they're off. 866 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:30.320 And they're off, as is a tradition. The 2028 presidential 867 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.820 contest began in earnest as soon as the polls closed 868 00:52:35.019 --> 00:52:40.280 last Tuesday. Joining me now to talk about the presidential maneuverings, 869 00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:48.610 Troy Smith, the editor-in-chief of Slingshot.com, joins us. Welcome, Troy. 870 00:52:49.809 --> 00:52:51.710 Roger, thank you so much for having me. It's always 871 00:52:51.789 --> 00:52:52.110 an honor. 872 00:52:53.050 --> 00:52:56.550 So it wasn't within a matter of minutes before Ron 873 00:52:57.090 --> 00:53:03.139 DeSantis launched his presidential campaign, evidently hoping it will forget 874 00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.519 everything we learned about him the last time he ran 875 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:10.619 for president. Now, I am, as people know, I'm a 876 00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:14.349 grave critic of Governor

DeSantis, and it's really quite simple. 877 00:53:14.889 --> 00:53:18.550 I remember the facts. In 2018, he was an unknown 878 00:53:18.630 --> 00:53:21.780 congressman running in single digits in the polls, and his 879 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.780 campaign coffers were empty. He was headed for certain defeat 880 00:53:25.300 --> 00:53:28.710 at the hands of the Agriculture Commissioner, who had also 881 00:53:28.750 --> 00:53:32.190 served in Congress, Adam Putnam. Putnam had the endorsement of 882 00:53:32.230 --> 00:53:40.449 the Florida Republican establishment, every county chairman, every state legislator 883 00:53:40.489 --> 00:53:43.909 in both the House and the Senate, the House Speaker, 884 00:53:43.929 --> 00:53:47.150 the President of the Senate. He had the support of 885 00:53:47.269 --> 00:53:50.409 every member of the Republican congressional delegation, with the exception 886 00:53:50.429 --> 00:53:55.239 of one. Matt Gaetz. Matt Gaetz persuaded President Donald Trump 887 00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:00.139 to endorse Ron DeSantis. Now, the president didn't really know 888 00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:05.130 that back in 2016, when Trump was nominated, DeSantis had 889 00:54:05.210 --> 00:54:08.929 actually refused to endorse him in the general election. He 890 00:54:08.969 --> 00:54:11.670 bought in the idea that Trump would be a downdraft. 891 00:54:11.690 --> 00:54:14.329 There's a video of him saying, just because Trump and 892 00:54:14.349 --> 00:54:16.190 I are both on the Republican ticket does not mean 893 00:54:16.250 --> 00:54:20.230 I support Donald Trump for president. But Ron saw his 894 00:54:20.269 --> 00:54:23.090 main chance with the Russian collusion hoax. He emerged as 895 00:54:23.190 --> 00:54:26.510 a strong defender of the president. That's the only Ron 896 00:54:26.530 --> 00:54:31.269 DeSantis that Trump knew. His endorsement of DeSantis caused his 897 00:54:31.309 --> 00:54:35.469 candidacy to take off like a rocket ship. Adam Putnam 898 00:54:35.510 --> 00:54:39.570 himself said it was like an atomic bomb. He vaulted ahead, 899 00:54:39.750 --> 00:54:44.010 easily won the primary. But then, since he had planned 900 00:54:44.090 --> 00:54:46.949 to run for the U.S. Senate and his expertise, such 901 00:54:46.989 --> 00:54:49.829 as he had, it was an foreign policy and defense issues, 902 00:54:50.429 --> 00:54:53.949 and he was weak on state issues. He found himself 903 00:54:53.969 --> 00:54:57.969 in a very competitive race with Andrew Gillum, the charismatic 904 00:54:58.570 --> 00:55:01.449 mayor of Tallahassee, who won an upset victory in the 905 00:55:01.469 --> 00:55:07.059 Democrat primary, later had some scandals of his own. So 906 00:55:07.340 --> 00:55:10.480 I thought, given that history, the fact that Donald Trump 907 00:55:10.500 --> 00:55:13.280 had to return to Florida three times in the last 908 00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.659 two weeks of 2018 to literally drag shall we say, 909 00:55:16.739 --> 00:55:19.579 charisma challenge Ron DeSantis over the finish line, where he 910 00:55:19.619 --> 00:55:24.719 won by 25,000 votes out of 8.9 million cast. Trump 911 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:28.070 also lent Susie Wiles, his chief political operative, who was 912 00:55:28.550 --> 00:55:32.190 airdropped in to pull together a campaign since Ron DeSantis 913 00:55:32.210 --> 00:55:35.920 didn't really have one. His nomination was a media phenomena. 914 00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:40.619 But he expects us, so he lacks that fundamental quality, 915 00:55:40.920 --> 00:55:44.179 which is loyalty. I mean, I believe that his running 916 00:55:44.199 --> 00:55:48.909 was a personal act of betrayal given the important outsized 917 00:55:48.989 --> 00:55:52.159 role that Donald Trump had breathing life into the political 918 00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.260 future of Ron DeSantis. 919 00:55:55.820 --> 00:55:59.719 Oh, absolutely, Roger. And there's a lot to the treachery 920 00:55:59.780 --> 00:56:03.280 of Ron DeSantis, and we're going to talk about that today. 921 00:56:03.300 --> 00:56:06.480 I think something that people should realize is that Ron 922 00:56:06.500 --> 00:56:10.219 DeSantis is still under investigation for the last time he 923 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:14.900 ran for president because DeSantis, as a governor, when he 924 00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:20.869 was fundraising for his 2022 gubernatorial campaign, Roger, He had 925 00:56:20.909 --> 00:56:25.269 a state-level political committee that had raised some $ 82. 5 million, 926 00:56:25.570 --> 00:56:28.170 and when he decided that he was going to run 927 00:56:28.210 --> 00:56:32.780 for president, Ron DeSantis rewrote the laws in order to 928 00:56:32.900 --> 00:56:37.059 transfer that money to a federal campaign, his federal campaign 929 00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:42.480 for president, a PAC supporting his campaign. presidential campaign in 2024. 930 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:47.599 That is still under investigation by the FEC as we speak. 931 00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:50.920 Right now, Roger, it's something that people haven't really talked about, 932 00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:54.530 and it's something that needs to be hammered home. This 933 00:56:54.610 --> 00:56:58.309 is $ 82. 5 million that was taken from the people of 934 00:56:58.349 --> 00:57:00.869 Florida under the guise that they were giving it to 935 00:57:00.929 --> 00:57:04.550 Ron DeSantis to support his efforts to lead their state. 936 00:57:04.949 --> 00:57:07.989 And his campaign was all about how Ron DeSantis leads 937 00:57:08.030 --> 00:57:11.860 the state. He is a wizard who led us through COVID. 938 00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:13.699 So give him your money and he will run for 939 00:57:13.739 --> 00:57:15.860 governor and he will save your state. Well, it turns 940 00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.519 out Ron DeSantis didn't care about Florida because he abandoned 941 00:57:19.579 --> 00:57:22.690 Florida to run for president in 2024. And he took 942

00:57:22.750 --> 00:57:25.590 the money that Florida donors gave him with him when 943 00:57:25.630 --> 00:57:28.369 he decided to do that. And that's still under investigation. 944 00:57:28.809 --> 00:57:32.329 Additionally, interestingly, he also changed the law. So Florida law 945 00:57:32.369 --> 00:57:34.449 said that if you were in a state office, any 946 00:57:34.510 --> 00:57:38.300 state office, governor, agriculture commissioner, or in the state legislature, 947 00:57:38.380 --> 00:57:40.960 and you wanted to run for federal office, say Congress, 948 00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:43.800 you had to resign your state office. Ron DeSantis changed 949 00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.639 the law so that just the governor was allowed to 950 00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:52.019 run for federal office without giving up the governorship, which, 951 00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.469 of course, was the fulcrum for his fundraising efforts. The 952 00:57:55.510 --> 00:57:59.650 reason Floridians have an amazingly high utility rates, amazingly high 953 00:57:59.690 --> 00:58:04.050 insurance rates, amazingly high property costs is, of course, from 954 00:58:04.329 --> 00:58:08.389 the money that Ron DeSantis extracted from those special interests. 955 00:58:08.429 --> 00:58:11.409 But more importantly, he's still not out of the woods 956 00:58:11.489 --> 00:58:16.070 on an extraordinary scandal where he and his wife, Casey DeSantis, 957 00:58:16.090 --> 00:58:19.489 who I think was supposed to be his successor, essentially 958 00:58:19.630 --> 00:58:24.070 took $ 10 million from Medicare, federal program in the state, 959 00:58:24.550 --> 00:58:27.760 and transferred it to a soft money, a dark money 960 00:58:27.780 --> 00:58:32.400 political fund they have through the Hope Foundation to fight 961 00:58:32.460 --> 00:58:37.280 a constitutional amendment that would have legalized marijuana. So they 962 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:41.409 took $ 10 million that was earmarked for the poor, the elderly, 963 00:58:41.489 --> 00:58:45.409 and the handicapped, and they basically transferred it to their 964 00:58:45.449 --> 00:58:48.809 political accounts for political uses. Now, when they got caught, 965 00:58:48.849 --> 00:58:52.239 they returned that money, but It's notable that the current, 966 00:58:52.619 --> 00:58:55.809 the new attorney general, who was then Ron DeSantis' chief 967 00:58:55.869 --> 00:58:58.670 of staff, was involved in the movement of the money. 968 00:58:59.210 --> 00:59:02.610 The U.S. Senator Ashley Moody was the attorney general. At 969 00:59:02.630 --> 00:59:05.320 the time, she ruled that this was a legal transfer. 970 00:59:06.300 --> 00:59:09.619 DeSantis' supporters argued that the money was part of a fine. 971 00:59:10.059 --> 00:59:13.179 from a company that had overcharged Medicare, to which I say, 972 00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:15.820 so what? It was still Medicare money. It should have 973 00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.210 been used to support the program,

not taken as a 974 00:59:19.269 --> 00:59:25.030 bonus by Ron and Casey DeSantis. Now, a state grand jury, 975 00:59:25.150 --> 00:59:29.409 very interestingly, investigated this, But rather than issue an indictment, 976 00:59:29.469 --> 00:59:33.530 they issued a what they call a presentment, a statement 977 00:59:33.610 --> 00:59:37.340 of facts. And in that statement of facts, that leaked 978 00:59:37.940 --> 00:59:43.239 very clearly says the money was misappropriated. When the Democrat 979 00:59:43.260 --> 00:59:46.059 Party of Florida tried to make a TV commercial laying 980 00:59:46.099 --> 00:59:48.980 out the facts, as I just essentially stated them, the 981 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:52.659 Republican Party of Florida actually went to court to try 982 00:59:52.739 --> 00:59:57.730 to block them from telling this story. It's really quite extraordinary. 983 00:59:58.409 --> 01:00:02.099 It destroyed their plan for Casey DeSantis to follow Ron. 984 01:00:02.420 --> 01:00:06.159 The idea was for her to follow the governor, very 985 01:00:06.219 --> 01:00:12.760 much like George Wallace's wife had followed him into the governorship. 986 01:00:13.809 --> 01:00:16.789 And then they would have had the fulcrum to continue 987 01:00:16.849 --> 01:00:23.179 to extract campaign funds for a 2028 presidential campaign. People also, 988 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:26.639 I think, don't recognize the Iowa contest is one that 989 01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:30.550 really requires eye-to-eye contact with the voters. The Iowa caucus 990 01:00:30.590 --> 01:00:35.289 voter wants you to sit at their kitchen table or 991 01:00:35.329 --> 01:00:38.630 sit at their living room. Ron DeSantis did not prove 992 01:00:38.670 --> 01:00:41.739 to have the personality skills for that. I mean, he 993 01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:44.860 is known for wearing earbuds when he's not really listening 994 01:00:44.900 --> 01:00:47.960 to anything, so he can avoid talking to people. He's 995 01:00:48.380 --> 01:00:51.679 not comfortable with his own skin. very, I think, very, 996 01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:55.340 very uncomfortable to be a very poor candidate. But I 997 01:00:55.380 --> 01:00:59.219 think most people opposed him because of his treachery and 998 01:00:59.260 --> 01:01:01.920 his betrayal of President Donald Trump. Now he has this 999 01:01:01.980 --> 01:01:06.280 Hope Committee scandal, numerous other scandals. The other thing I 1000 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:08.760 have a problem with is this used to be, Florida 1001 01:01:08.780 --> 01:01:11.489 used to be what they call the sunshine state. I mean, 1002 01:01:11.530 --> 01:01:14.809 we had a sunshine law that allowed any taxpayer to 1003 01:01:14.869 --> 01:01:19.190 learn about public meetings and where their money was going. 1004 01:01:20.230 --> 01:01:24.110 and he's done away with most of that. So I 1005 01:01:24.150 --> 01:01:27.340 think this is, if you live in Florida and you 1006 01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:32.980 experience the insurance rates or the utility rates here, you 1007 01:01:33.019 --> 01:01:36.190 have a more direct example of what his life is 1008 01:01:36.250 --> 01:01:37.710 like under Ron DeSantis. 1009 01:01:38.980 --> 01:01:40.059 Well, absolutely, Roger. 1010 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:43.500 And let's not leave out one of the most unbelievable 1011 01:01:43.539 --> 01:01:46.989 things that Ron DeSantis did as Florida governor. He appointed 1012 01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:52.730 a BLM-supporting Democrat as sheriff in the second-largest county in Florida. 1013 01:01:53.250 --> 01:01:56.630 Gregory Toney is a registered Democrat who shares ties to 1014 01:01:56.690 --> 01:02:00.949 radical Islam groups connected to the 9-11 attacks. and even 1015 01:02:00.989 --> 01:02:05.559 protested with Black Lives Matter openly as the sheriff kneeling 1016 01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:10.219 on camera. He hosted a 9-11 memorial in 2022 that 1017 01:02:10.260 --> 01:02:15.340 included radical members of the Islamic community tied to dirty 1018 01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:21.480 bomber Joseph Padilla and Mohammed, one of the individuals that 1019 01:02:21.519 --> 01:02:24.300 was responsible for the 9-11 terror attacks, one of the 1020 01:02:24.389 --> 01:02:28.190 actual terrorists. This is an individual that Ron DeSantis put 1021 01:02:28.469 --> 01:02:32.809 in charge as sheriff of the second largest county in Florida. 1022 01:02:33.070 --> 01:02:35.329 And it's something that we have to recognize as he's saying, 1023 01:02:35.489 --> 01:02:37.840 let me be president, let me be president, and he 1024 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:40.619 points to Florida. Let's look at who he appointed in Florida, 1025 01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:43.139 whether it's Gregory Toney or some of the other bombshell 1026 01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:45.139 reports that we're going to be releasing here in the 1027 01:02:45.179 --> 01:02:49.719 next couple weeks to show that Ron DeSantis has appointed criminals. 1028 01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:50.119 At every level. 1029 01:02:50.699 --> 01:02:53.849 Gregory Toney, Roger, this is just something we can discuss 1030 01:02:53.869 --> 01:02:54.449 here right now. 1031 01:02:56.369 --> 01:02:59.909 The case you cite is an interesting one. Three separate 1032 01:02:59.949 --> 01:03:03.889 state investigations, the Florida State Senate, the Florida Department of 1033 01:03:03.929 --> 01:03:07.590 Law Enforcement, and the Public Ethics Commission have all conducted 1034 01:03:07.630 --> 01:03:12.250 independent investigations and have recommended the termination of Sheriff Tony 1035 01:03:12.309 --> 01:03:15.110 based solely on the fact that he failed to disclose 1036 01:03:15.489 --> 01:03:18.320 when he was appointed on his forms that he'd been 1037 01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:21.199 charged with multiple serious criminal offenses in the past, including 1038 01:03:21.539 --> 01:03:25.079 weapons and drugs charges and Although he had been acquitted, 1039 01:03:26.019 --> 01:03:29.320 and

there's some question raised by independent journalists as to 1040 01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:34.989 whether that was a legitimate acquittal or not, he never 1041 01:03:35.030 --> 01:03:37.449 disclosed any of those matters. Last week, there was a 1042 01:03:37.489 --> 01:03:42.570 new report that he had taken $ 65, 000 from a technical 1043 01:03:42.650 --> 01:03:46.809 company and then testified in favor of giving this company 1044 01:03:47.570 --> 01:03:54.230 a multimillion-dollar contract without ever disclosing anything. his taking of 1045 01:03:54.269 --> 01:03:57.809 that money. This is just a small sample of the 1046 01:03:58.150 --> 01:04:01.690 epic corruption going on in the largest sheriff's office in 1047 01:04:01.730 --> 01:04:04.889 the state. He's at war with the county commission. There 1048 01:04:04.969 --> 01:04:08.849 seems to be money missing in his budget. Even Governor DeSantis, 1049 01:04:08.889 --> 01:04:13.179 his ally, has ordered an audit of the Broward County 1050 01:04:13.340 --> 01:04:17.440 Sheriff's Office. This is another exploding bomb for the candidacy 1051 01:04:17.619 --> 01:04:20.320 of Ron DeSantis. When we come back, Ted Cruz is 1052 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:25.000 also making the moves. I This is almost hard to believe. He, 1053 01:04:25.019 --> 01:04:29.920 of course, was a cheerleader for the war. And I 1054 01:04:29.980 --> 01:04:32.800 don't know where he thinks his niche is. He is 1055 01:04:32.900 --> 01:04:37.570 a Bush Republican. He was basically hired to be George W. 1056 01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:41.110 Bush's brain. He did most of the writing for Governor 1057 01:04:41.139 --> 01:04:44.510 Bush when he was a presidential candidate and when he 1058 01:04:44.570 --> 01:04:48.110 was governor. Then he served as a deputy attorney general 1059 01:04:48.989 --> 01:04:53.079 in that race. He melted down Last time he ran 1060 01:04:53.099 --> 01:04:56.000 for president, people won't remember that Ted Cruz joined in 1061 01:04:56.099 --> 01:04:59.900 a coalition with Jeb Bush and Governor John Kasich of 1062 01:04:59.980 --> 01:05:03.550 Ohio in a stop Trump move at the Republican National 1063 01:05:03.570 --> 01:05:08.489 Convention in 2016. And then he basically melted down when 1064 01:05:08.590 --> 01:05:14.349 I proved that his father, Rafael Cruz, a pastor, had 1065 01:05:14.409 --> 01:05:18.289 in fact been among Lee Harvey Oswald's associates in New 1066 01:05:18.349 --> 01:05:22.639 Orleans in 1963. it's most likely that the elder Cruz 1067 01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:27.010 was working for the Central Intelligence Agency as an anti-communist Cuban. 1068 01:05:27.570 --> 01:05:30.469 It doesn't mean he was involved in Kennedy's assassination, although 1069 01:05:31.010 --> 01:05:32.869 there is a picture of him that you can see 1070 01:05:32.909 --> 01:05:37.719 in the Warren Commission report. And Judith Barry Baker, who's 1071 01:05:38.010 --> 01:05:41.900 most definitely Lee Harvey Oswald's girlfriend,

mistress, knew him intimately, 1072 01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:47.960 has eyewitnessed Angel Cruz as he was known in that crew. 1073 01:05:47.980 --> 01:05:50.949 And the National Enquirer went Public with that story, Ted 1074 01:05:50.969 --> 01:05:53.619 Cruz went out of his mind attacking me. I always 1075 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.699 thought he looked like Grandpa Munster, but he sounded like Mr. 1076 01:05:56.860 --> 01:06:00.019 Haney from Green Acres. You're listening to The Stone Zone. 1077 01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:02.980 I'm here with Troy Smith. We're talking about the 2028 1078 01:06:02.980 --> 01:06:08.630 presidential field. I still believe that if he chooses to run, J.D. 1079 01:06:08.670 --> 01:06:11.369 Vance is clearly the front runner. Seems to be some 1080 01:06:11.409 --> 01:06:14.010 talk about trying to draft General Flynn to run. I 1081 01:06:14.030 --> 01:06:17.989 thought that was an interesting idea. Ron DeSantis clearly gearing up. 1082 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:24.230 for the gate. There may be others, but in our party, 1083 01:06:24.289 --> 01:06:26.690 we were great believers in the order of things. That 1084 01:06:26.730 --> 01:06:28.730 gives a huge leg up to a sitting vice president. 1085 01:06:28.989 --> 01:06:33.010 Don't go away. We'll be right back. Welcome back into 1086 01:06:33.050 --> 01:06:35.289 the Stone Zone. I'm here with Troy Smith, and we're 1087 01:06:35.309 --> 01:06:41.360 talking about the nascent presidential candidacy of Ron DeSantis. I 1088 01:06:41.460 --> 01:06:45.000 believe that DeSantis may seem like an America First conservative 1089 01:06:45.019 --> 01:06:48.280 from the outside, but in fact, he's a neoconservative who 1090 01:06:48.849 --> 01:06:52.030 cynically exploits the MAGA branding to cloak his cronyism and 1091 01:06:52.050 --> 01:06:55.570 his corruption. I would point out that Rupert Murdoch's publishing 1092 01:06:55.670 --> 01:06:59.329 company paid him almost $ 3 million to write a book 1093 01:06:59.349 --> 01:07:03.869 that didn't sell 100,000 copies. That was essentially a bribe 1094 01:07:03.889 --> 01:07:06.269 to get him to run for president. Remember their front page, 1095 01:07:06.670 --> 01:07:09.320 and he said he was a defuture. But if you 1096 01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:11.519 live in Florida, you know that since he took office, 1097 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:15.360 homeowners insurance premiums have tripped, averaging about $ 6, 000 a year, 1098 01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:19.170 the highest in the nation. His reforms handed insurers $ 2 1099 01:07:18.909 --> 01:07:23.409 billion in taxpayer-funded bailouts while letting them dodge lawsuits, meaning 1100 01:07:23.690 --> 01:07:26.530 if you're unhappy, if your home is destroyed in a hurricane, 1101 01:07:26.809 --> 01:07:28.809 you're unhappy with the insurance company who offers you, you 1102 01:07:28.849 --> 01:07:32.610 have no right to sue them, which to me is outrageous. 1103 01:07:33.409 --> 01:07:37.719 It's not surprising that DeSantis soaked up $ 3. 9 million in 1104 01:07:37.820 --> 01:07:43.019 campaign contributions from the insurance industry to his PAC, the 1105 01:07:43.099 --> 01:07:48.460 Friends of Ron DeSantis. huge, huge money. But what's really 1106 01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:50.280 amazing is the way he jumps out and tries to 1107 01:07:50.340 --> 01:07:53.519 take credit for this Republican victory in Florida. It is 1108 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:59.179 true that Florida has gained 1.3 million new Republicans since 1109 01:07:59.579 --> 01:08:03.230 the last time Donald Trump ran for president. But the 1110 01:08:03.269 --> 01:08:06.269 truth is, Ron DeSantis, just as he refused to campaign 1111 01:08:06.289 --> 01:08:10.630 for Donald Trump in 2024, never appearing at any of 1112 01:08:10.670 --> 01:08:14.079 the rallies in Florida, not at Doral, no place in Florida, 1113 01:08:14.099 --> 01:08:17.020 not appearing at a rally with Trump anywhere outside of Florida. 1114 01:08:17.779 --> 01:08:20.770 Trump graciously allows him to speak to the National Convention 1115 01:08:20.779 --> 01:08:23.310 where he has one pro-form alliance saying we have to 1116 01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:25.930 replace Joe Biden with Donald Trump. But beyond that, he 1117 01:08:26.609 --> 01:08:29.949 won't campaign for him, won't campaign for Byron Donalds either. 1118 01:08:29.989 --> 01:08:33.770 When President Trump flies into Fort Myers to do a 1119 01:08:33.829 --> 01:08:38.390 rally for winner Byron Donalds, Governor DeSantis meets Trump at 1120 01:08:38.430 --> 01:08:41.149 the airport, soaks up the media glow of being with 1121 01:08:41.170 --> 01:08:43.970 the president, but then he refuses to attend The rivalry 1122 01:08:44.029 --> 01:08:47.479 with Byron Donalds refuses to make a video for Donalds, 1123 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:51.279 refuses to record a TV commercial for Donalds, refuses until 1124 01:08:51.300 --> 01:08:53.979 the very final days to be seen with Donalds, is 1125 01:08:54.010 --> 01:08:56.689 seen briefly with him. In the end, he does a 1126 01:08:57.149 --> 01:09:01.760 video that he blasts out widely early. people to vote Republican, 1127 01:09:01.819 --> 01:09:06.800 in which he endorses Byron Donalds, along with the other candidates, 1128 01:09:06.859 --> 01:09:12.829 Wilton Simpson for agriculture commissioner, and Blaise Angolia for the CFO, 1129 01:09:13.170 --> 01:09:18.289 along with his protege, James Uthmeyer, the man who illegally 1130 01:09:18.409 --> 01:09:23.869 moved that money in the hope foundation scandal. So very 1131 01:09:23.909 --> 01:09:26.930 selfish on Ron DeSantis' place, trying to take credit for 1132 01:09:27.310 --> 01:09:31.699 the hard-fought victory of Byron Donalds. Donalds raged a very 1133 01:09:31.739 --> 01:09:35.899 aggressive campaign. Perhaps if the Democrats had nominated John Morgan 1134 01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:40.060 instead of the former congressman that they nominated, they might 1135 01:09:40.149

--> 01:09:44.069 have won. But again, a win is a win is 1136 01:09:44.149 --> 01:09:46.789 a win. Byron Donalds, endorsed by Donald Trump, is going 1137 01:09:46.810 --> 01:09:51.020 to be a great governor. But he's got an enemy 1138 01:09:51.180 --> 01:09:55.609 in Ron DeSantis. DeSantis has been bitter since the Hope 1139 01:09:55.689 --> 01:10:00.409 Foundation scandal blew up the prospects for his wife to 1140 01:10:00.590 --> 01:10:03.449 run for governor, which I really think was the plan. 1141 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:06.199 Absolutely, Roger. 1142 01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:09.380 And I think it's important to point out whether it's 1143 01:10:09.420 --> 01:10:12.689 Ted Cruz or Ron DeSantis or any number of these 1144 01:10:12.729 --> 01:10:16.569 people that are vying to replace the president, none of 1145 01:10:16.670 --> 01:10:20.649 them have the qualities that President Trump has to call 1146 01:10:20.770 --> 01:10:23.140 out the things that matter to voters. 1147 01:10:23.260 --> 01:10:26.100 These people are very... You know, you've worked in politics 1148 01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:27.119 for a long time, Roger, and. 1149 01:10:27.060 --> 01:10:28.140 I'd love you to speak on that. 1150 01:10:28.380 --> 01:10:31.460 You know, President Trump has this authenticity that comes across 1151 01:10:31.500 --> 01:10:33.699 to voters and it's been proven to come across to 1152 01:10:33.739 --> 01:10:37.779 voters in ways that Republican presidents and candidates just in general, 1153 01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:40.930 I don't think, have. And we didn't see it before him. 1154 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.229 We're not seeing it after him. I just want your 1155 01:10:44.350 --> 01:10:47.829 perspective on seeing these candidates and comparing the way that 1156 01:10:48.310 --> 01:10:51.850 They reach the American people versus the way Trump reaches them. 1157 01:10:52.149 --> 01:10:54.949 Trump has this edge, and it's hard to say if 1158 01:10:55.130 --> 01:10:57.170 any of these guys will be able to replicate that. 1159 01:10:57.569 --> 01:10:59.520 Who do you think serves the best chance of kind 1160 01:10:59.539 --> 01:11:00.640 of doing that in 2028? 1161 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:03.279 It's funny that you raise this. Nixon himself warned that 1162 01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:06.260 candidates pay too much attention to the mechanics of campaigning, 1163 01:11:06.819 --> 01:11:09.119 too little to the message itself. A campaign with no 1164 01:11:09.180 --> 01:11:12.100 real message, he wrote, is like the onion in Ibsen's 1165 01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.899 peer back the layer. There's nothing at the center. Nixon 1166 01:11:15.939 --> 01:11:18.680 also cautioned against trying to run on two opposing strategies 1167 01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:21.159 at once. So it's really about the larger picture. It's 1168 01:11:21.180 --> 01:11:24.310 not just charisma. It's not just ability to raise money. 1169 01:11:24.390 --> 01:11:28.250 It's not just eloquence. It's just not being articulate or fast-footed. 1170 01:11:28.529 --> 01:11:31.989 It's about having an agenda, about having a greater purpose. 1171 01:11:32.109 --> 01:11:35.850 And Trump clearly has that. I'm not sure that is 1172 01:11:35.930 --> 01:11:39.449 the requisite. And that's what a campaign is about. That's 1173 01:11:39.470 --> 01:11:42.069 where each candidate has to tell us what their greater 1174 01:11:42.260 --> 01:11:45.020 purpose is. But Ron DeSantis is not who he says 1175 01:11:45.060 --> 01:11:47.229 he is, and we will continue to point that out. 1176 01:11:47.489 --> 01:11:48.670 Many thanks, and God bless you.