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This is the Rachel Show where I interview key people
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about lawfair, election fraud, media bias, and other hot topics.
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And today we are going to dive into the case
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of horrible lawfair against a honest, ethical, conservative attorney in Arizona,
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Vlad Gadget, who had an unblemish history. He's a military veteran,
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he practiced criminal lawfer I believe twenty years. But he
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tangled with the wrong person, Rhino Maricopa County Attorney Rachel Mitchell.
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She has asked for sanctions representing the Board of Supervisors
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twice against Carrie Lake over Carrie Lake's election fraud lawsuits.
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And what happened was Vlad was representing a young black
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man who was falsely accused of child molestation and when
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the woman accusing him became an adult, she recanted and
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said he had made it all up. But Mitchell would
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not stop the prosecution, and so Vlad has struck out.
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He's done everything he could to get his client exonerated,
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but Mitchell would not back down. And so many of
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you guys have probably seen some of the feuding going
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on on X over this, but you might not know
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how bad the law fair has become. Lad's license has
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now been suspended for I believe a year, and Mitchell
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wants to see him disbarred. So let's get into this. Vlad.
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Explain some of the details about your representation of this
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young man, Jamal Pennington, and any other details I left
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out in what happened to him.
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And thank you, Rachel. Thank you for having me so
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when I said, be able to share my experience and
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maybe as a word of born to other folks so
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that they know just how bad it is in Arizona.
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The story is, it's just like you said. Basically, I
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was the lawyer for twenty years. I was a public defender.
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No history in twenty years. In twenty years of practice,
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I never even had ad diversion, right, I never had
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any sort of bar complaints of any sort whatsoever. And
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then I'm a court appointed lawyer, which means the court
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pays me to represent somebody at an early rate. So
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when I got the Jamal Pennington case, it's not like
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he gave me thirty thousand dollars or some you know,
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boatload of money to get him off or anything like that.
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He was just a guy I was trying to defend.
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I've done a lot of cases like his over the years,
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and at first I didn't believe him. I did not
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believe anything to have to say that he had to say,
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or his family had to say, or even my investigator
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had to say about him. He was innocent that, you know,
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just a typical story. And like you had said in
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your introduction, Yes, I am a conservative, I'm a former marine,
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I'm an immigrant, I'm served in Serbs tend to be
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very conservative, very republican.
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You were the one who pointed out to me that,
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weren't they the only European country that went for Trump?
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In all of Europe, Serbia is the only country that
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had a positive rating for Donald Trump. And this was
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in the middle of lawfare, when like twenty twenty two,
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when it was looking like he was going to go
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to prison. Serbes loved Donald Trump and we still love
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still love Donald Trump. And that's me, you know, that's
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the kind of guy in so. I don't hate cops.
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Of course, I don't hate cops. You know, something happens,
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I'm going to call the police, right like a normal
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person does. I even applied after my assault. I even
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applied to the County Attorney's office to work over there.
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And I would have worked over there if I had
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gotten the job, but I didn't give the job for
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whatever reason. Anyway, going back to Jamal Pennington's case, he's
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accused of sex trafficking, meaning that he was a pin
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and I have plenty of time to look into the case,
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and it turns out he was actually telling the truth.
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I mean, not like the particular details of what happened
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day by day, but the long story is that he
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was low hanging through. He was picked up at a
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place called the Payalists in on twenty fourth Street, vent Burant,
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and that had been targeted by the FBI and Phoeix
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Police as part of sending McCain's little task force to
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stop human trafficking. Don't have any problem with it, right,
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great stop human trafficking, but it was a political operation
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and that task force, it's called HEAT, the Human Exploitation
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and Trafficking Unit, was actually featured on Frontline. So if
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anybody was watching this google spec trafficking in America, they're
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going to see the episode they were lyingized. You know,
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they're made into heroes. And the lady running in, a
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lady named Christy the Kuffle was the lady who was
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investigated at Penniton. Anyway, while I was doing so, there
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was a lot of political pressure connected to the FBI
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to make all these prosecutions seem stick right, and Jamal
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was literally at the wrong place at the wrong time.
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He got picked up he was, and they tried to
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force him to plead guilty and he wouldn't do it. So,
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you know, we'll get to the case. I listened to
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the interviews. A lot of evidence is missing. Then I
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noticed that the victims the accusers are actually talking to
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one other, because I know that because they say that
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on the video, on the recording and witnesses. As you
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know as a prosecutor too. If you have victims, they're
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not supposed to be able to coordinate their story behind
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the scenes, right, You're supposed to talk to them individually,
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so you know, you can kind of figure out if
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they're telling the truth or not, right, Especially what's not
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supposed to happen is if they are talking to each other,
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you're not supposed to hide it. The police officers aren't
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supposed to talk to the victims off the record to
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get the story straight and then go on the record.
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And I knew that was happening because they said it
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the worst. The worst example though, was there was a
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a white lady, who was being adult who is being trafficked,
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and the police spec the couple. Detective the couple specifically
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asked this lady, do you know these two young lady,
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young females miners who Jamal was accused of trafficking. He's like,
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you know, I know exactly where they are. They goes
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to Jamal their traffickers. I have no idea who that is.
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They show her a picture of Jamal and she can't
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recognize him. She goes, no, I know who's trafficking. She
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named somebody else and they go, how do you know
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he's trafficking her? Because he's my opinion, those are exact words,
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and that's on the recording. And I try to interview
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her for going to say four years. You know how,
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you know how the defense attorney's got to request the
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interview if you want to interview a state's witness, because
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she was noticed as a state witness, we have to
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request interviews for the state the four years. They tell me, uh,
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you know, we'll set it up, we'll set it up,
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blah blah blah. Eventually, then eventually the new prosecutor comes
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on the scene and says, yeah, we can't find her.
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So tough sounds like malpractice to me.
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It sounds cynical. It sounds cynical because you have a
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woman who's just as a prosecutor, as a citizen. Why
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would you want wouldn't you like loose sleep at night
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if you were putting the wrong man in prison? Not
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only because you're putting the wrong man in prison, but
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also because the right guy is out to do it again.
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So it's a double many, right. But guess what. My
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investigator finds her and we go talk to her, and
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she tells us, well, I don't know why they're telling
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you we can't find They can't find me because I
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just I talked to the couple all the time on Facebook.
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You know what, she's actually giving me money on Facebook.
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She's helping me with school, and you know what else
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she's helping me. Remember, and then this is the kicker.
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She goes, Yeah, the probation officer, prolofs or somebody was
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here just last week because my boyfriend's getting out of prison.
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He's going to move in, so they had to check
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it out. So they knew exactly where she was. They
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knew exactly where she was. And you know, she confirmed
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what because I had a recording, so I played it
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for her and she did, you know, I didn't know
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who he was. It was the other guy, and she
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named little stacks and big stacks and things like that,
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but she had no idea what Jamal was. So and
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then eventually I file emotion and I get Facebook records,
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so I have this in writing. I actually have this
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in writing, Facebook records proving that the case agent the
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couple was talking to the defense witness in secret giving
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her money.
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You showed these, I've seen them.
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The GoFundMe is right there, you know, for her charity
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or something like that. Why is a case agent giving
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money to a defensive witness who says the defendant is
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not guilty. Why is she telling the witness that I'm
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shady that the prosecute that my investigators shaded with. I mean,
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you know what she said. She was campering with a witness.
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It's all Darren and all there in writing. So you know,
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I file emotion to dismiss the charge. I mean, there's
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a bunch and bunch of reasons, but I just thought
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the hampering and writing the defense you know, I mean writing.
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I thought that was the most agregious. So I filed
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a bunch of motions and the judge shoots me down.
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Me no, get out of here, man, what the hell
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is wrong with you? And it was Breski. Everybody I know,
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everybody loves Bresky. Everybody loves them.
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I'm not familiar with them, so I don't know.
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Just everybody loves member all. He's so good looking, he's
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so nice, he's so charming, he is well. I won't
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use the words, I'll just say I'll just summarize it
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by saying he's cynical and he's self serving. He knows
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I spilled everything out there. I put all the evidence
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in his pages and reads and reams of evidence that
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And my point was not that Jamal was innocent or
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not guilty or guilty or anything. The dude just deserves
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your right to prove it. Right. Just give him his
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day in court. Just give him a chance to say
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I didn't do this because an X, Y and Z
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prove it.
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That's all about you, and you were never allowed to
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get this evidence into court, right.
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They just said no, no, he literally So what Baretsky
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said literally he said was well, the evidence that you
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have doesn't in and of itself who he's is not
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in and of itself exculpatory. Right. So what he was
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saying is for me to introduce evidence. It's to the
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third party of defense, basically that Jamal didn't do it.
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It was somebody else who did it. I have to
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prove that it's just positive. So before we even get
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the trial, before we even do an evidentiary, which.
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they say you have to prove the fraud before you
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even get to go through the discovery and the evidence
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and the trial. Right, he's basically making you prove that
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he's innocent before all the proceedings take place.
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And of itself exculpatory. That's not only wrong, it's not
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only un American. It's it violates natural rights. Isn't the
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most natural right. We have to prove we didn't do
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something that the government accuses of and we have like
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actual evidence of somebody else doing it. And he said, no,
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I can't not only the thing, no, he said, I
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can't even try to use it. And then so I
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thought it was called a special action, and I'm like,
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where's he getting that from, because the rule is it
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just if you want to introduce evidence of a third
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party defense, then I
think, you know, I didn't rob
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that store. The guy across the street robbed the store.
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You just have to have some evidence of it, right.
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You can't just make things up like it was aliens
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or it was you know, John bow and Prescott hes
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some evidence, that's okay, It's not a crazy, wrapped out theory, right,
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common sense, common sense. He threw all that out the window.
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And so it was critical of my proud emotion or
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what's called a special actions basically an appeal before trial,
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saying where is it getting that from? Is it getting
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it from the Spanish inquisition? Like? Where is it getting
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that standard? That's literally all I said. And because I
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said that, they basically parting because of that one line,
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they disparted me. And it was a setup. Baretsky was
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setting me up on purpose. The other day was the judge,
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judge Chuck Whitehead. Roy Whitehead. I'll just say this because
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the public needs to know, is he was the first lawyer,
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the first judge on the case, and we had a
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hearing where I was asking traditional discovery and he just
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was shooting me down shooting me down, and I could
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tell I had no idea about any of the facts
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of the case. He didn't know anything about the case.
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And after the hearing, my investigator was at the hearing
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with me, right and he comes up to me after
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the hearing and I got, what the hell has happened? Man?
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He didn't like he just listened to the prosecutor. And
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name was Lacy Fisher at the time. Because I know
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that guy. I saw hi yesterday at Bourbon Street. He
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told me he sees like, not just him, but other
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lawyers I know see him there all the time.
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And that's a strip club.
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That's a strip club his former office. Ma. And I
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don't say this to embarrassed age. Well, I am saying
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Nihilbert because I hate him or anything like that. It's
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just I'm the title to defend myself. And so it
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is Jamal And I wouldn't have brought it up if
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it wasn't for this, because he joined the bar from
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with Bretsky and joined them.
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And let me just point out too, Blad. So you've
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been saying publicly that this job judge goes to strip clubs,
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but has this judge ever sued you for defamation?
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Or libel.
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Not only that the state bar doesn't dispute it. They're like,
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what they're coming after me now, they're not they're not
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denying it because they know it's true.
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And you and your point is he's doing he's going
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to strip clubs during the day.
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Rights going, This is even worse. He's going to strip
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clubs during the day. And then my investigator tells me, yeah,
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and went over there. He's leaving a business card at
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a strip club, so it'll be one thing even during
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the day, right, And I was just gonna just say
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real quickly, I knew one of his officemates who's to
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share an office with him, and well, she told me
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God and was truck doesn't read anything, right, So he's
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completely ill prepared first cases. And he's actually the one
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who does who uh suppressed the DNA evidence of a
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blood test. You remember, I think your name was Alyssa Feldman.
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They got the DNA test from a from they got
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the DNA from blood they got from a duy years before,
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and he said you can't use it in the court
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of appeals, reversed them. Given a lot of murderer, that
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is what I'm saying. But he's telling everybody at the
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Script Loos, he's a judge, He's telling them. So why
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is he doing that? Why is he living in the strip?
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Why is he living in the business cars there? Because
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if a judge goes to buy a I mean, you
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know the rules. If a judge goes to buy a
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car or a house or whatever, he doesn't get to say,
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by the way, I'm a judge, I'm out you know
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some favors. No, you don't get to do that. And
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I'm not
saying that he is doing that. I'm just
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wondering why wouldn't he just be going in like a
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trench cult in a flopping hat, covering himself up.
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So let's delve into what happened with.
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You know, Rachel Mitchell's fiance, you know, in these anonymous
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Twitter accounts, and how that all unraveled, and it could.
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Just add one more point to you, just real quickly.
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So the original bar complaint in twenty twenty two, I
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did not get a hearing, no hearing on the merits.
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I was not defaulted, and I was no consent. I
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am the only lawyer in one hundred years of the
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areas of the state bar to be sanctioned without a
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hearing on the merits without consent or without default, and
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then they didn't publish the decision. They kept that secret, which.
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Is so strange, but I believe that's because it was
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so full of holes what they did to you.
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They don't want the public to know.
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And then Jamal represented himself and of the ten charges,
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on the ten charges, nine of them been dismissed, nine
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of them met the dismissed. Well, there's only one left anyway,
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So now you know, I get this bar basically the
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doctor of this bar, and uh, only lad that's ever
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happened to one hundred years. I told Marett the Sella
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that in Senator Current's office, and she did, couldn't name
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anybody else, right, And my investigator, by the way, my
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investigator was in Kurrent's office where he told both Joel
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England and Brett and Kerrent what he saw about Whitehead,
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and they already knew it. So the bar knows about it, right,
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the bar knows about it. And so that's current. Anyway,
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I go on Twitter because what the hell, what else
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am I going to do? But what else am I
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going to do?
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You're reaching out to the court of public opinion, is
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what you're doing because you can't get a fair trial
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in the real court.
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Right.
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I didn't get a trial, just like Jamal's going to
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get his day in court. I didn't get my game court,
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and nobody cares. Literally, nobody cares. Everybody treats me as
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a para. I try to talk to the rison A
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Republic about it. I try to talk to Dave what's
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his name is, it's Gambing or whatever, because you know,
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he comes off as as social justice, you know, truth
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or whatever you want to call it, and he's full
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of it. He's just an It's like, Okay, I'm gonna
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go on X and I'm just going to tell stupid
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Thatche's on X. And I start talking about Jamal's case,
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and then that's when the NUBACP comes involved through his
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Jamal's wife Julia, and they tell me that the NUBACP
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has concerns about the case and that they're talking to
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Mitchell about it, and that the case is going to
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go to what's called integrity integrity review, which is like
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an internal process to review the case. So what do
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I do. I get a text message from the pastor
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I put it on next Great news, right, great news right,
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maybe the system does work. I get a text message
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from the pastor saying, hey, take that off. You got
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to stop talking about this or she's gonna get He
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didn't say a player or like I'm telling you, he
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was rude about it, demanding that I stopped talking about
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the case. Otherwise Mitchell is going to stop integratory review
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of Jamal's case. She never was going to do it
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in the first place. That was just a lie, That's
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what she was telling Miller. Then double ACP. And then
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later on I get a text. Uh, Julia, his wife,
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gets a text message from Miller that Mitchell had sent
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to Miller while this is going on where she's telling him.
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So Rachel Mitchell is telling Andrea Miller then doub acp
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that my criticism of the State Bar because she cut
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and paste at one of my tweets criticizing the bar
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was jeopardizing Jamal's case. So me criticizing the state Bar
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nothing to do with Jamal's case, just something to All
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I said was that they're a thing cronies right about
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something or the other. But I knew it was my
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tweet and I could see it, And I don't know
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if you have a picture of it, right, did you
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see it?
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I'm sure I have, since I followed your case really closely.
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Next war, I was wondering, like, why is she Why
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is Mitchell the Kenny attorney telling na a CP and
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my criticism of the state bar on Twitter is jeopardizing
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Jamal's case? Like what is the What does that have
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to do with the other one don't have to do
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with together? Right? Well? What why? What would stop her
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from saying, Well, if Gadget doesn't vote for me, I'm
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not reviewing Jamal's case. If he doesn't get money to
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my campaign, I'm not reviewing Jamal's case. What's the difference.
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There's some I'm sure there's some ethical rules that were
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violated there, but the bar you know, leaves Rachel Mitchell alone.
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You know, it's like the whole uniparty system and it's.
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Just not you don't have to take my worker actually
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have the tweet? I ever actually have the picture of it? Anyway,
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I'm like, what are you talking about? Bro? This is
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the you know, it's a free country. Stupid me, It's
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so stupid. It's a free country, bro, I get to
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say what I want.
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Not if you're an attorney those ethical rules are vague
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and broad, and we've seen them use to target conservative
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attorneys over and over again. They say, you can't criticize judges,
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you can't criticize elected officials.
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YadA, YadA, YadA.
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Just it's a catch all if they if they want
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to get you, they will get you.
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And you know what, and I'm gonna tay us too.
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Three serbian attorneys in Phoenix, right, me, Mark Burnovich and
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some other guy in drugon. I know for my church,
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the bar takes us out in the same like two
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month period. Isn't that weird? Like right? It was right
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like right during the after the elections or something like that.
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You guys aren't well connected. I mean, you're easy targets.
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You're like, you know, these immigrants, they don't know anything.
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They're easy targets, Like I got, That's what I'm sure
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is going on.
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That's exactly what it is. But anyway, I keep going
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on Twitter and then then randomly some guy just starts
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trolling me. I'm just saying stupid things on Twitter. I mean,
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you see my tweets. I say the stupidest, most obnoxious
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things just because what what else am I going to
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do all day?
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You have a arcastic sense of humor.
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Yes, it's just like I'll get it. I mean, if
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you're going to steal everything from me, you know, you know,
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I could be moralizing and lecturing and self rights and
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all that stuff, or I could try to this. This
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whole situation is so absurd. Like have you ever read
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a Fahrenheit for fifty one?
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You know the book Ray Radbery has been my favorite
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author since I was a child.
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That's Kurt Vonnegut, right.
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No, that's Ray Bradbury, which is.
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The one where he's a bomber in a bomber career
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and he shot down and he goes back in time
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because of Dresden. You know, is that Fan for fifty one?
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It's one of those books. There's a book that can't
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Kurt Vonnegut wrote where somebody experiences Dresden any any time
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travels right, because it's so traumatic. It's absurd, Like Monty Python,
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it's absurd. And that's what I'm going through right now.
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The idea that a public defender, a public defending a
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guy trying to get a guy his right the trial
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would be disbarred and humiliated and publicly defamed by the
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government without any sort of pushback or kicked back by anybody.
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I found that really weird because.
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You were on the wrong side of what the uniparty wants.
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A young black man must be a pimp, so we
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got to crack down on these young black men pimps.
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And you know you got in the crosshairs in the
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crossfire of this.
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So let's keep.
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Going because you know we're down to the show's running out.
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Just explain how you believe Mitchell's fiance was trolling you
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on x and you provided what to me looks like
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evidence where he said he admitted in court that he was.
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Defending her and doing this.
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Yeah, so anyway, I'm on Twitter and then some random
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guys starts trolling me out. I don't know who it is,
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but start taking screenshots, starts changing his name every once
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in a while. I start taking screenshots, and then I
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found out long and I assumed there was like an employee.
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I thought I was somebody who was trying to kiss
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a or herr favor with Mitchell, you know, just by
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coming after me really nasty, really nasty stuff like making
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fun of me for being assaulted, making fun of me
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for being suspended by the bar with insider information, right,
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and then going after Jamal and going after like Stephen Lemons,
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going after various reporters of Pull, Greg Well, Lunchster, and
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I think you don't want to figure it out. It's
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it's Rachel Mitchell's fiance, a guy named Paul Stout. And
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when you said that, I remember, I remember exactly when
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you told me. I'm like, oh, okay, and then there
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said name, and like, what the hell are you talking about?
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Like what? What? What? Why? Why? Why would somebody do
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something like that? I literally Rachel like two followers and
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they were both torn Box.
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Well, I hope you didn't follow them back.
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I didn't even know what corn Box were. I'm like,
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what's the boss? Seriously, That's how I was, like, what's
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the bot? What does that mean? I didn't know anything
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about it. I'm just like, you know, like that, and
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some guys trolling me and blah blah blah. That's when
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you write the story. And then that's when somebody else
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who's being killed in cats comes after me. Right, And
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then there was a Z J. Paul, and there was
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he admitted to a z J. Paul, and he admitted
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to one Patriot right, So admitted to making fun of
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Gina Gadby here for a director for the shirt she
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was wearing, like kind of a sexist, nasty comic that
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he made one that.
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She was wearing a two tight shirt.
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And the reality is Gina Goba here wears the most
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standard classical lawyer outfits, like I've never seen her wear
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anything even remotely close to risk gay.
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Let me just say my theory is. My theory is
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since it was on Mother's Day, it wasn't him, it
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was her. I think it was Mitchell who sent that
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tweet because she was just jealous, right jealous.
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Well, and for those who don't know, Gina ran against
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Mitchell for County attorney.
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So that's why I don't because I don't think a
477
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guy would say something like that. I don't. A guy
478
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wouldn't even notice it, or even if he didn't notice it,
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would even care to make it. You wouldn't not consider
480
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an insult, is what I'm trying to say any guy.
481
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I know that. Anyway, Then he starts coming after me
482
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as killed and cats, where he starts accusing me of bestiality,
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He startscusing me of plagiarism. He starts making fun of
484
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me for being assaulted. And when we're talking about hundreds
485
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and hundreds of tweets, he outs a certain politician and
486
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being gay, tries to gate I won't name the name,
487
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but gay shames them a lot of just like frorendously
488
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evil stuff. And then I start asking questions. And I
489
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:04.960
started asking questions like who is this guy? Like why
490
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:09.240
is he so nasty? And Stephen Lemons on July, I
491
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think it's sure someday August eighteenth, twenty three, asked Mitchell.
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Because I had talked to Lemons a couple of times.
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You asked her at a press conference, are you engaged
494
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or getting married to Paul Stout? If you see me
495
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:26.880
the question, she freaks out over. She doesn't want to
496
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.480
answer it. I guess what happens after that, Rachel, Well,
497
00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:31.640
you know what happens right after five days after that?
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It didn't she threaten him.
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00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.400
And for those who don't know, Stephen Lemons is a
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reporter for the Phoenix New Times who's done some fair
501
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reporting on Blad's case.
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She sends the FBI to my house. She sends the
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FBI to my house. She sends the FBI and three
504
00:26:49.079 --> 00:26:51.160
deputies to my house. And this is all on video.
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Who get lost because they don't know how to get
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to my house, so they have to ask my neighbor
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Canada how to get to my house. Why do you
508
00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:57.799
think they got lost?
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Why do you think they weren't using GPS or they
510
00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.119
didn't call dispatch how to get to my house. They
511
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.960
were actually outside my front door, and it's on the video.
512
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.640
You can see them practicing to shoot me because Mitchell
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00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:11.920
told them I was a full sovereign whatever that is.
514
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.599
I don't even own a gun, right, But they came
515
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:18.359
into my living room. I'm law abiding him a former
516
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.680
US Marine honorably discharged. They came into my living room
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to tell me I'm not allowed to criticize Rachel Mitchell
518
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:26.160
or if I do, I'm going to prisone. And this
519
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.119
was an FBI agent who was saying that right.
520
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:32.000
And that violates the state's anti SLOP law.
521
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:36.559
That law was passed to stop using the courts to
522
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squelch free speech.
523
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:41.079
Well, I mean, what am I going to do? What
524
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am I going to do about it? Like? What can
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00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.400
I do about it? They still he doesn't care and
526
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:47.039
it was Vladimir. Do you think any you think they
527
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.599
sl you's going to come up to defend me. Of
528
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.720
course not. They don't care. They're like they're all because
529
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:55.640
they're all it's not just uniparty, it's all these organizations
530
00:27:55.680 --> 00:28:00.920
are connected to the same thing. So and then I think,
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what's his name? They're not He wasn't the sheriff then,
532
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.359
but later on Share Jerry Sheridan said that his deputies.
533
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So even though it was three deputies gunning, uh happily Haressa,
534
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:15.720
Haressa and Miller, Miller is the one who's getting ready
535
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to shoot me in my own house, in my own house,
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right in my own living room. That his deputies had
537
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nothing to do with it.
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00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:27.680
That was so weird, like she had hired like some
539
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.279
deputies off duty or something that.
540
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.839
Yeah, so it's pretty obvious what happened is she hired
541
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three deputies and the FBI agent to scare me into silence.
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Nobody's gonna find out, nobody's gonna know about it. It's
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all gonna be super super secret. That's why they didn't
544
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use this battery GPS. That's why I was all off
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the record, and they're just gonna scare me, right, and
546
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:55.400
then nobody's gonna find out. That's why I Sheridan said, uh,
547
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there's no record of it. There's literally no record of it.
548
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:01.920
So what they were there there is to serve me
549
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:05.119
with an injunction, and so we have a trial an injunction,
550
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.000
and I put the video on YouTube and on TikTok,
551
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:14.119
by the way, and I don't it's strict liability. Albert,
552
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.279
who was the commissioner, said, literally said to me, I'm
553
00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:22.480
not allowed to say to prove the First Amendment is irrelevant.
554
00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:26.519
So literally what the miracle bochanic court is saying that is,
555
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if you criticize a politician like I was criticizing Richard Mitchell,
556
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:34.680
and her husband or her family member doesn't like what
557
00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:39.640
I'm saying about that politician, that family member can get
558
00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:43.519
an injunction to stop me from criticizing the politician. And
559
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:49.759
Albert said, that's hopathetic, that's perfectly normal. That's literally what
560
00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:52.680
he said, right, That's literally what he said. And then
561
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I try to appeal the decision, so he wouldn't let
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me prove the retaliation. The me just the and I
563
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.519
don't
care about paulsa I couldn't care less about him.
564
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:05.720
You didn't care about Rachel Mitchell, not in the least bit.
565
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.480
The only thing I wanted to know is why is
566
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Mitchell hiding him? Like why will why won't she admit
567
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.039
who he is? Because what's the downside to I don't
568
00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:17.680
see what the downside is, right.
569
00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:21.920
Well, there's probably there's probably some ethical rules involved, if
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you know, he comes out and admits that he's behind
571
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these anonymous accounts. I mean, I mean, you thought it
572
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:31.759
through all the ethical rules because once in a while
573
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:34.440
the bar actually turns on a rhino. It doesn't happen
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very often, but and you know, and it could cause
575
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damage to her next election.
576
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.240
Well, I was thinking there's that. I want to get
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into details. But there's a there's a shoe robbery or
578
00:30:46.079 --> 00:30:48.240
shoe store robbery atten Mantim in two thousand and one
579
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:50.640
where he was working at I think it's two thousand
580
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and one. And then there's a lady in two thousand
581
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.119
and seven, female neighbor who accused him of assaulting her
582
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and her female mother and say that he's a psycho.
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So I don't know, I don't know what it is.
584
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.799
Maybe there's nothing, Maybe there is. I know at the trial,
585
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.000
at the hearing, he testified he worked for DCS and
586
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.400
he said that, you know, uh, Department Child services and
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00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:13.480
that I had emailed DCS and had caused problems for him.
588
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:15.960
So later on I had emailed DCS for a copy
589
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.319
of his employee filed to see if he'd ever been disciplined,
590
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:19.960
and they told me we never heard of the guy.
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00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:24.079
So I don't know what there is and if he
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00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.200
wasn't connected to Mitchell, I don't know what Mitchell was
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00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.839
hiding about him. Maybe she isn't hiding anything, maybe she is.
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00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:31.799
That's all I'm doing. I'm literally just going on X
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and asking those questions. And because of that, May's wanted
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to prosecute me for a felony and I would have
597
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.160
been there. I would literally have been the only person
598
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:48.359
in the world ever prosecuted for harassing the spouse of
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00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.400
a politician other than one country. You know what country
600
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.799
that was where you can prosecute a person for critics
601
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.920
acism spouts as a politician. The country that is really
602
00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:05.640
country Nigeria, Nigeria, uh oh oh. And I was trying
603
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.759
to appeal Albrick's decision because it was obviously rigged. It
604
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:12.319
was totally bricked. Even even said it was Ricky first Amendment,
605
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:14.720
we never heard of it. Pretty much what Albrits said
606
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.799
at the trial first amendment.
607
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.559
And you're you're referring to your bar trial.
608
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.599
I'm talking about the commissioner who did the injunction hearing, Richard.
609
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:25.680
Okay, okay, okay.
610
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:28.839
I was going to appeal to his decision. But guess
611
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:31.480
what he refused to do. He refused to sign his decision,
612
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.799
so I couldn't repeal it. They refused to sign it
613
00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:38.799
for five months, for five months until Lemon Stephen Lemons
614
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:41.160
wrote about it and said, by the way, Albert's refusing
615
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:42.720
to sign this order, and then so he signed for
616
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.920
the next day anyway, So then the Maize wants to
617
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.759
prosecute me, you know, because I'm just literally the words are,
618
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:55.880
I'm disparaging Rachel Mitchell x right.
619
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.279
So it was so just because we are like.
620
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.720
Six minutes left, just tell us where we're at with
621
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.839
the status of them coming after you criminally, and where
622
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.359
we're at with the status of the bar which seems
623
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.000
to want to suspend you for more than a year
624
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:11.559
at this point.
625
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.880
No, no, the bar is going to dispire me, Rachel Mitchell.
626
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.799
And this is back when I was served with the
627
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:20.920
injunction demanded and you've seen it told the bar I
628
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.000
wanted him disbarred. He's been criticizing me for months on
629
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:27.599
X so guess what they're doing. You aspire me. The
630
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:29.680
judge just rule this week. I do not have a
631
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:33.240
right to subpoena any witnesses in my own defense. I
632
00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.559
do not have the right to subpoena any evidence like
633
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.440
written documents in my
own defense. I do not have
634
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.400
the right to depose any witnesses in my.
635
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.599
Defense because it's a care record, right.
636
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.440
But this, I'm not allowed to argue the First Amendment.
637
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:52.720
I'm not allowed to person. I would be the only
638
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:55.160
and I am going to be this barred. That's that's
639
00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:00.839
that's finalized. It's right, it's even, it's completely done. I
640
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.200
will be the only lawyer ever in America to be
641
00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:08.679
sanctioned for criticizing an electric politician. And that's Rachel Mitchell.
642
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.400
And that's that's certain stone. But in Tucson there's a
643
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:18.000
felony prosecution by Attorney General Mays for just a felony prosecution,
644
00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:20.360
two and a half years in prison. The only reason,
645
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.480
the only reason I'm not in prison right now is
646
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.119
because of you, because of Londons. If it wasn't for you,
647
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:29.559
or Lenmons, I would be I would be Epstein to
648
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.639
prison one hundred percent. Why because I criticized the politician
649
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.280
on X. Why because I was a public defender trying
650
00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:39.000
to defend an innocent man. But oh yeah, and then
651
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.320
just quickly too, Mitchell's managed to get my ex accounts
652
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.119
suspended a couple of times. The last time was just
653
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.639
last month. If you remember, I was suspended for two
654
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:51.920
weeks for impersonation. And what I found out was that
655
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.719
somebody was taking my marine cop picture that I was
656
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.519
using as a profile, created three false accounts, all named
657
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:04.119
Paul by the way, one of them Paul Stucks, and
658
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:10.159
creating fake accounts to get me suspended for impersonation and
659
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:10.840
so and so.
660
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:13.440
Like Mitchell and ur Ferance, I could have been behind that.
661
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.840
But you'll never say, no one's doing anything about it.
662
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:22.239
No one seems to care like if they are doing that,
663
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.239
that is super unethical behavior.
664
00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:28.679
It is super unethical, It is cytical. Like imagine it
665
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.199
this way, Just look at this way. The entire government
666
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.320
is against me, The entire state government, kind of government,
667
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:40.039
federal government, FBI is against me. Even using the court
668
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:43.840
system is against me using legal means. That's not enough,
669
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.280
they have to cheat on top of that. They have
670
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.480
to cheat on top of that. So where am I
671
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.559
right now? I'm going to be this barred officially. I
672
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:55.320
mean I've been back to demanding I do a settlement conference, right,
673
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.559
but why would I do a settlement conference? Like why
674
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.199
would I make this easy for them? Well?
675
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:05.079
Well, well, and if you have the same case that
676
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:09.159
happened with former Maricopa County Attorney Andrew Thomas, when they
677
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:11.840
had a settlement conference with him, you know what they
678
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:16.719
said offered him as a settlement desparment Yep, they offered
679
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.679
him nothing like he showed up and they were just like, well,
680
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.440
we're not gonna offer you anything less, We're going to
681
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:24.000
dispar you.
682
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:28.320
But and me, though, like I'm just barred anyway, Like
683
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.679
like if I have if I'm you know, on death row,
684
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:34.679
oh you know, you can get approbation for this, you know,
685
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.159
robbing the store. Like that's essentially where I'm at. They're
686
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.360
demanding I do because I know what they're doing. I mean,
687
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:44.360
they're trying to force me to give up. They're trying
688
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.599
to force me to get me frustrated. So I just
689
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:48.480
say screw it, I'm done. I walk out of there,
690
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:51.480
so then that they have a default right. That's what
691
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.519
they want. It's pretty clear when they tell me I
692
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:56.639
can't subpoena any witnesses in my own depends she said that.
693
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.480
She said she literally wrote, don't know if he's She
694
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.519
literally wrote, I didn't know why he thinks he gets
695
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:07.599
the subpoena documents. That's only for the state bar. She
696
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.000
literally wrote that inner ruling yesterday. So I don't get
697
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.480
to use any documents in my defense. I don't get
698
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:15.880
to use any witnesses in my defense. I don't get
699
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.199
to do any pre trial investigation. And I know what's
700
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.480
going to happen. They're going to get an accidated for
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00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.360
Mitchell saying blah blah blah blah blah and Stout and
702
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:27.079
whoever else. They're gonna do emotion for some rejudgment and
703
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.480
I'm gonna fight it, and they're gonna say no, you're done,
704
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.039
and something about it.
705
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.079
And that's why it's important that we get your side
706
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.719
of the story out in the court of public opinion
707
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.280
so people understand just how crooked the legal system and
708
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:43.719
the state bar have become.
709
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And so we got we're down to the last minute,
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so just.
711
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:48.639
Say this real quick. Let me just say this real quick.
712
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It's so bad that in last February, Mitchell got dog
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speces as a Valentine's Day in the mail. I'm one
714
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hundred percent convince her husband who did it, she told
715
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the Phoenix Police. Heals me. She's trying to get me
716
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prosecuted for it. That's how bad it is. She told
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px plic me.
718
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Well, let's wrap it up, what blad, Just tell everybody
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what your account is on X so they can follow you.
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Toxic with a cave live p o X I K
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the lad.
722
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All right, thanks for having on. I'm glad we can
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help you get the story out.
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Thank you,