Full Transcript for Sheila Gillette | Humanity Is Choosing Between Two Futures

thought, well, if I If I can do this, we all can. We all can be connected. But what I felt in my body was this amazing power. And what happened for maybe maybe five days, every time they would come in, I would feel in my whole body, you know, when you hit your elbow, that feeling you get when you hit your speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Your elbow. I felt that from here up. And I said, if this continues, I can't do this. It was so uncomfortable. But it was all in trying to match my vibration frequency of of my energy with theirs so that they could come in more comfortably. And it took about five days. But I really I did say, you know, this is too uncomfortable. And periodically there's been adjustments, but I like it to the fine tuning of your radio and your car if you're trying to get it on the station right. Right. And then you get the match and you're good to go. speaker-0: But you had to go through a physiological thing to attune yourself to it. Yeah, that sounds intense. Yeah. so, so one question, ⁓ I have a question. When you were channeling Theo, has Theo ever contradicted or challenged some of your own personal beliefs? You know, with such a strong, powerful voice, has it ever like caused you to feel like, wait a minute, that doesn't align with something that I've believed or held on to or did they just speak so clearly that it just made the adjustment for you? speaker-1: They just spoke so clearly and distinctly and ⁓ compassionately, even though it was loud. It's calmed down over the years. There's been a better voice Yeah, a better match energetically for me. ⁓ and it's because I've released resistance too. You know, in the beginning I didn't know what was gonna happen, so of course there was resistance. But now I've been doing it so long and I trust so much that it's just I invite them and it's just it looks easy, but it's just like if you stick your finger in an electrical socket. That's the kind of energy that it runs. Yeah. Wow. speaker-0: So it also makes me wonder, like, have you ever just been out enjoying your day, maybe even in a conversation with somebody else, and Theo kind of shows up unannounced. Has that ever happened? Like intervened in just a casual mundane moment that you're having? speaker-1: Yes, and it hasn't happened often. They'll they'll speak to me, I'll hear them first. ⁓ but I was skiing and I took a lunch break. I was skiing in snowmass at Aspen. And I was waiting for some friends to show up, but they hadn't gotten there yet. So I sat down, I was eating lunch, and they These young people came up, they ski bums, they were in aspen f you know, and they were skiing and they were having a good time. And this one young man stood out and I was compelled to stand up and go talk to him. And I said to him, I said, I don't know why ha I must tell you this, but you need to move out of where you're living immediately. And he goes, What are you talking about? I have three women roommates, and I we're great and we're having a

great time. And I said, you know, no, you gotta go. It's dangerous. And I said, This is what I do for a living. And I kind of tried to explain to him. And I said, This was a message I was compelled to give you. I gave him my business card. And of course, all the The people he were with, they were laughing and ⁓ that's silly and no, no, no, you know. Three about four weeks later, I get a call from him. And he said, I think I need to talk to you again. What happened is two days after I told him that one of the girls' boyfriends almost ⁓ beat him up and he almost died. And so he said, You were absolutely right. You know, it all looked great until that happened. And I didn't know that's what was gonna happen. It was just a direct message to him. And I didn't doubt it. But I thought about it later, as you can imagine, of going, What? Some woman comes over to you and tells you these things, but that's I have to tell you, the only time that that has happened. ⁓ so it doesn't happen all the time, but I might get a message from them. But I w they taught me that I to have my own life, right? That I should schedule appointments to talk to people, and I would invite them in at that appropriate time, and otherwise it was my time, my life. speaker-0: Okay. speaker-1: To lose. speaker-0: Okay. All right. That's respectful. Well, I mean, I would love to ⁓ bring in Theo if we can do that now. I'm sure there's a little routine process speaker-1: Yeah, it doesn't take very long. Like I said, I'm very comfortable with the process and with them. We've been working together a long time, so I trust And ⁓ I just close my eyes and take a couple deep breaths and invite them in. speaker-0: Okay. I I'm excited. speaker-1: Okay. All right. Here we go. It is the beginning, is it not? speaker-0: Hello Theo. speaker-1: We are appreciative of the opportunity to serve, you may ask. speaker-0: Absolutely. Thank you for this opportunity. ⁓ I'm truly grateful. And I wanna I wanna ask the first question really on behalf of humanity, and that is what is the most important question I could have you answer that would serve most people in the way that they're feeling in this particular time in history, which seems volatile, maybe just from a perspective, but What is the most important question I could ask you for the most widest application for humanity? speaker-1: So what we would like humanity to know is this time is an important time of shift and change. It's the fifth dimension. All the patterns of the past that have been passed along will not work. It's a new time, a new consciousness that is evolving in and through all of you presently. And this chaos that is happening now, theater that is occurring. Is all part of the necessity of change of patterns and foundational ways of being that no longer serve humanity. And the recognition that you're better together than you are apart, and you're a global community. It matters not the color of the skin, the place where you're born, the place where you live, or the language you speak, you are all one. And in the shift of consciousness, the recognition of that that is coming to fruition. Political changes throughout the world are now. You are aware of the global economic structure that is in place and will only get more refined. And the communication that you have now through your technology, you can be anywhere in the world in an instant. But the education that will occur because of this expands the intellect even greater still. So it is a time of evolution of consciousness that's never been experienced before. And the third and fourth dimensions, the third your physical reality, the fourth is being a spiritual awakening, and the fifth is a full expression. of who you are unencumbered from those generational patterns of the past. speaker-0: In order to step deeper into that question and and make it applicable for some people, are there things that we are presently doing as a species, even if it's just small cohorts, but ⁓ I wanna make this a ⁓ accessible to the audience who's listening. Are there things that we're doing that are blocking us from moving into this evolution? speaker-1: There are, and it's beliefs about yourself, beliefs, unloving beliefs about yourself that are simply untrue. We brought forth a soul integrational process that allows the individual to recognize where beliefs were created or adopted about themselves that have limitations that limit you. From living this fuller expressed life by the magnificent soul that you are. So, yes, there are blockage or resistance inside from those beliefs. Events won't change. Your history is what you've experienced, but your perception of those experiences will change to see the gifts and blessings that have grown you. You're listening to The Pulse, a Gaia-powered podcast for independent minds. For more transformative interviews, original series, and inspiring films, join the conscious community at Gaia.com. Start your journey. speaker-0: Maybe this is a f ⁓ question about the next phase, the phase that's coming. Will everybody step through it? Or were so will some simply not evolve? speaker-1: Some will step through it because it's always a choice. Being incarnated, being in a body is a choice. It's not demanded of you. And there's billions of choices. Earth is only one. But the soul choosing to be incarnate now, those who have chosen and have an awareness of this movement, that's why they chose it, will step through that invisible. barrier that is spoken of beliefs. Others may not, and they would simply choose to leave their incarnation as that is a choice as well. speaker-0: I had in Australia, I think it was 2011, I was doing a talk. And afterwards people were asking me questions. And one of the questions I answered, ⁓ the woman asked me, What do you think happens next for humanity? And I didn't feel qualified or unqualified. I just spat out these words. I said, I believe humanity is splitting in two. And when they asked

me further, I didn't really know how to qualify or go any deeper into that. I it somewhat seems like if only some are going to go through this evolutionary process that there's a bifurcation happening, a a splitting. But what is that splitting? Is it just within human consciousness? Is this could this literally turn into two different types of humans? speaker-1: No, it's all about the shift of consciousness. And those having limited access to human experience up until now. For there are old souls, mature souls, adolescent souls, and young souls that are embodied. And what we mean by that, it's not. A judgment of them, it's about how many human life experiences one has lived to have compassion and empathy. As you can imagine, a younger soul will not have had many human lifetimes. And just like in a younger body or human, they have an arrogance and a bit of narcissism. about the world revolves around me, where an older soul has learned by human experience and expression and emotions to have empathy and compassion. An adolescent soul would be as much just like an adolescent that has gained some of that awareness, but life has not had enough time to temper one's experience in the emotional body or the emotional level. where mature and older souls have gained. So you just see these different levels, if you would, of understanding. Not as a judgment of lesser than or better than, just different in the sense of one's human learning. speaker-0: So frequency alignment is something that I've heard you speak about. And I'm curious, how does frequency alignment influence the path that you take, the timeline, if you will? speaker-1: That's what we're speaking about in the shift of consciousness. Know that your soul is a vibrational frequency that is individual to you and only you, unique to you, that is eternal. So that is a constant. The frequencies and vibrations of the physical experience of the human body can be shifted and changed. And is in a constant trying to align with that soul vibrational frequency. And many masters you've read about n and gurus and and teachers have evolved into that match, if you would, of the soul to the physical. And that's what's evolving for all of you now. However, what that means is just. The ability to be and see and do more with confidence. And what we mean by that, that confidence of knowing you're more than your physical body, there ultimately is not death. We call it birth to birth. You birth into the physicality from your multidimensional soul. And when you leave the body you bathe back into that multidimensional essence that you are. speaker-0: Are there any specific practices ⁓ or states of being that facilitate the alignment with these higher harmonic bandwidths? speaker-1: Yes. And what you're recognizing so much information is being given now of how to care better for the body, for health and well-being, and those modalities such as good health habits do assist, but it's also meditation. Alignment, a desire, a decision, of course, to know and be more. Because nothing happens without a decision by you to expand, to experience, a desire for that to occur. And that's what you've come here to do. speaker-0: How does collective coherence in groups influence the emergence of new timelines? And can small groups ⁓ of coherent individuals shift the larger field or trajectory? speaker-1: Yes, and it's all shifted with love. And there's been many words given such as this, but it's a vibration that emanates from the soul that can fill a room. So when one or more gathers with that intention of filling a room or an environment or an experience with love, transformation happens. It's been proven that when groups meditate. Together. It can change minds, it can change environment vibration. So, yes, that story of when one or more gathered in my name as the teacher that is spoken of as Jesus, one of many names, that these are truths that have been in human experience. But now are to be fully lived, not by one, but by the many. speaker-0: Yeah. And so I'm feeling because there is a a ⁓ split made by choice, those choosing to remain in like lower harmonic states during this bifurcation, what are the risks to that? And how how do you see that playing out? Is that going to cause more issues in our world and more things to worry about? Or I I guess I'll just stick with the original question. Those who do not choose to shift their frequency and stay in lower harmonic states, what is that going to do? How is that going to remain in the world where others are evolving so much? speaker-1: So again, as we stated, each soul chooses an incarnation. And what happens within that incarnation? Life is happening for you and through you, not to you. So many may feel victimized by the experience and fearful as we're bearing witness to now. Yes. But as we stated, the energy would be too intense to remain. And everyone chooses their way out, however it might be, through war as you're witnessing now, through what might be called an accident or illness, whatever way that soul can leave the now or the body if they choose not to. be present in this transformative time. speaker-0: Would you consider this bifurcation to be something that happens all at once? ⁓ is it a cycle? Does it play out over a period? speaker-1: It's been happening as the fifth dimension was fully in place about the planet, and each and every one of you are are influenced by that, and that came fully into place in 2012. But the world had been over a hundred to two hundred years being prepared and energized and moving in that direction. But as you have been witness to in the most recent one hundred years is this evolution of consciousness and the interest in it, because individuals are having their own personal experience of expansion, as we spoke of psychic and intuitive abilities blossoming in each and every one of you. And as one has their own experience of opening, there's an understanding and a desire for more. And then

as that occurs, there's a gathering of like-minded individuals to experience together. And that's what you're witnessing now: this influx of awakening, what we have. observed it's been every ten years there's been an influx of a greater awakening and beings are younger now before it was past midlife or what would be called of midlife but now the younger beings are also awakening to their own experiences and knowledge that they are more than their physical body and When one has their own personal expanded experience, they don't go back to the old way of being, they want more of the new. speaker-0: You mentioned twenty twelve. ⁓ this is a very short question and you said it became firmly in place around twenty twelve. Yeah. I would imagine this is correlated ⁓ with the ⁓ the the Mayan calendar, all the talk about twenty twelve. I would imagine that that's what all that was about, but could you just give me a little bit more information on exactly what particularly set in place in twenty twelve? speaker-1: Twenty twelve, yes, the Mayan calendar had something to do with as as a demarcation, you might say, but we've been speaking for five decades of the fifth dimension that was happening. And so what you can mark is these transformations that are happening in the world in human experience. And when the first mark began is In the Baltic states, this awakening and the demand of the people of change. And that is when the Berlin Wall came down. There was a demand for unity once again. And this is an ongoing process. You speak of the divisiveness. There's a great desire for human beings to be connected, your herd animals. And you know you're better in the herd and more protected than you are separately. And you're you're collaborative animals beings as well, not competitive. Yes, you compete in sports and and other things, but you desire to work together. You will notice as this evolves, the arts and sciences bring you together. It's not politics. And so what will occur is those collaborations even get better. And the transformation, the input that will be had and the innovations, you know what you've had up until now, they'll just be exponential. And that's because you all are open to this greater creativity. speaker-0: I'm curious, how do unresolved emotional patterns affect one's ability to resonate with these higher states? Say somebody has trauma that they haven't really cleared, ⁓ how does that affect their ability to resonate with these higher states? speaker-1: It affects them greatly because it creates a resistance to understanding and receiving an openness because it's the door shut. Firstly, one must believe it's possible for any occurrence to happen, any change of perception or consciousness happens with the ability to receive. Differently information. Yes? And be open to the possibility of change. However, those you speak of who've had trauma, trauma is just the curriculum of their life that has grown them. When you broaden the aperture of one's perceptivity to see the bigger picture, one then can glean. How important those events have been to grow them into the person they are now. And with that perception, there's a broader awareness of those gifts and awarenesses that they have that they would not have had. And how to forgive others and the self as well. That occurs. that opens the door even wider to a better understanding. speaker-0: Wow. So I just I just I just want to echo that back to make sure I heard it correctly because the trauma itself, I feel like what I'm hearing and I also agree, oftentimes the way people perceive their childhood trauma or trauma that came at any point, they perceive it as being a punishment, but they they don't often look for the deeper meaning inside of it. So I'm I'm curious. I f I see a lot of people who are stuck in this loop of being the victim of those experiences. Do you know of of something that can be shared with some of these people? And perhaps you've already said it, you know, but I'm I'm curious if people who really feel stuck in that story that this happened to them, not for them, is there anything they can do to engage with that to start loosening that story and begin expanding out to see that there is deeper meaning and usually very beautiful gifts underlying those traumas? speaker-1: When they tire of the story, when it becomes intolerable to be in that story any longer. Understand there are no victims, they're just volunteers of life experience. So when one decides they don't want to be the victim anymore of the story, and some will and some won't, some are attached to starring in their own film. Yes. And they're getting more out of the story than they would if they change, or that's their belief. However, the majority of people want to grow. And that story, the victimized story, becomes so intolerable they desire change. They want to feel better. And as we stated, we brought forth a soul integrated. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: process as a how to change those beliefs and move forward with love. speaker-0: How do children and ⁓ future generations fit into this bifurcation? speaker-1: Just because the bodies are small doesn't mean the souls are. There's a confusion in that you see. You see an infant and you think, ⁓ they can't know. They know more than you think they do. But it is that disconnect. to who they are that drives the desire to remember who they are in their human experience. speaker-0: Really appreciate that. I have ⁓ four children, one still in diapers. ⁓ so this is very ⁓ is very affirming for me. I want to ⁓ respect your time and ask my last question. What is the ultimate purpose of this split from a cosmic perspective, not from our human perspective, ⁓ but something much broader. What's the ultimate purpose of this split? speaker-1: The ultimate purpose is becoming aware of how magnificent each and every one of you are, and choosing this human experience for the benefit of the emotional learning and the expansion

that is to happen on this earthly plane. As we stated earlier, there's billions of choices that you could make, but you've made the experience of human a choice. And that is the greater learning of emotions and the sharing of unconditional. speaker-0: For somebody who is going through that evolution, I just wanna I wanna say thank you for helping me see that there's also a a deep beauty, a meaning and a purpose for those who do not wish to change or to evolve. ⁓ I think that's it's really important for myself and for people at home to hear this, that although others may be different if I'm hearing you correct, although They may make different choices and those choices may rub us the wrong way sometimes, that that is also a part of the important meaning of this split. Am I hearing that correct? speaker-1: For this time of growth. But understand this. This is a time of great change, never having been before on this planet, in the human experience. And so what is being birthed here is a new world to be lived in by you. And with a greater understanding still, that is a is the evolution. speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: The evolution of consciousness we speak about. So the myopic views of the past are opening with this bar broader aperture to a greater perception of how to be human on this planet and not acting out the patterns of the past they no longer were. speaker-0: That is really beautiful. Thank you. Thank you so much for your time, Theo. This has really been remarkable and We are a speaker-1: appreciative of the opportunity to serve. We are complete for this moment. speaker-0: Yes, we are complete. speaker-1: Slavon to you. Good day. speaker-0: I see it. speaker-1: Type in. speaker-0: Thank you so much for that. as very unique. I found myself through that period. I oftentimes with guests I like to jump in and, you know, keep it an active back and forth, but I felt a calling to to not jump in and to hear every single word as it is. and so yeah, that that was really deep and profound and it kinda hit me as a parent. as well. I guess just one pickup question on that, and this would be obviously for you, is getting these messages from them, do you have any maybe short story or example of how perhaps you've been channeling for a group, but something that came through you changed your trajectory? Like you immediately started putting it into action or changed behavior pattern. Was there Anything like that that came directly after channeling? speaker-1: Every day. Yeah, every day. I've been a student of Theo since they first came through and I apply what they teach us all. I've applied the soul integration process in my life. I do it I I do it that use those tools every single day. Theo's broaden the messages they're giving us now. ⁓ I hear something new every day that I do this work. that gives me a broader understanding and it gives me confidence about us as humans. ⁓ yeah, to the evolution that's happening in our awareness and how it it's kind of like we're living in this ⁓ well Theo calls it we're living in the theater or this this chaos. But it's like the prigogene theory of the of the ⁓ cell or the the atom, it has to before it can break to a different version of itself, there's all this chaos that goes on before it can have that breakthrough. And I think that's what we're living in now. speaker-0: Yeah. I I wonder last really short question, like a lot of people are glued to their screens. A lot of people are taking in the stories that are coming through social media, not knowing, not fully understanding the source or maybe even deeper intentions behind that. Do you watch news anymore? Do you do you tune into current affairs? speaker-1: Yeah, I do. Because speaker-0: You park that because so many people have trouble. speaker-1: I know. I I have a need to know. When I first opened up to this, ⁓ I got information, a lot of information about Watergate before it happened. And it was two years before it all blew up and came to fruition. And so this time we're living in, I'm curious about because it's so familiar. speaker-0: Wow. speaker-1: And ⁓ what was interesting for me is sixteen years after that happened, I met John Ehrlichman, who was very much a part, he worked for Nixon. He was one he went to jail. ⁓ and I I was able to share with him all the information I'd been given. And he corroborated. everything that I had been told. And so that, you know, as I've lived this life of having all kinds of information come and to have these confirmations. And now the things that Theo has talked about will be happening and are happening. ⁓ I have a huge amount of confidence that we're all that the world's going to be okay. We're all gonna be okay, but we'll be profoundly changed in ways that we don't even know yet, in good ways, you know, in because I believe ultimately ever people wanna be good. They wanna do the right thing. We all want the ones the things that we all want. Like we wanna love and be loved and have a good family and have a sustainable life and have a life well lived. Whatever that is for each and every one of us. And you know, I when we got the internet and you could see what's happening in the world in an instant, and you'd we'd see earthquakes and we'd see these horrific things happening around the globe. And what I noticed about people and myself too, is my first instinct is how can I help? I think most of us feel Feel that way. How can I help? We do we don't think about where it is in the world. We just see people in a difficult situation. And we can have the compassion and empathy, and that's it. Most of us, not everybody does, but I think the majority does. And that's just going to become more so. You know, people send money and they Go places to assist from wherever they're living. And I think that's an innate desire out of love to to help. So I I have a lot of confidence in us, I I believe. And Theo's talked about this time will pass. And look how rapidly these changes are

happening. speaker-0: It's true. Thank you. Thank you for that. Yeah. Yeah. I I just want to say thank you for that. ⁓ mainly because I do believe it's I wouldn't call it a scourge because I don't want to put a negative connotation on it, but people are gloomed glued to the stories. I find myself as well, but I've had to really, really work on how to how to park that well. So I just want to thank you for that wisdom there and keeping that in mind. speaker-1: And it's true. So I We have to, you know, Theo says, and it's true, ⁓ we all have a truth barometer in us. When we when when we speak truth to somebody, or if we've been spoken to with truth, our body has a physical reaction to it. Mine does. Some call it the shivers. You get a shiver up your back, or the hair stands on your arms. I mean we all have a visceral feeling when we know that's true. Yeah. I think we have to pay attention to that. Because we know truth, but we forget about critical thinking or even asking, is that true? And I think a lot of the conspiratorial stuff, ⁓ if we just stop and ask, is that really true? We'd have that feeling inside. We have that in us to know. And I just hope more people will remember that. speaker-0: I agree. And thank you. That brings it full circle back to when you said earlier that you believe all of us we do have messages coming through us if it were only if if we only recognized the signs that we were being spoken to in those moments. ⁓ so that's really, really beautiful advice. I also want to, as we're wrapping this up, I want to make sure that we talk about your latest project. And that's ⁓ the art of relationship. Discover the magic of unconditional love. I would love to hear more about that. speaker-1: It's an audiobook and we have video that was taken in our art of relationship ⁓ retreats where people are working one on one with Theo in the transformational ⁓ soul integration process and people get to see that individual. It's in the book, but they get to see it on video as well. And then a year later, having them tell their story of how their life has changed and what it meant to them. And so powerful. It's all about relationships, but firstly the relationship to ourselves, which is the soul integration. But then primary relationship, finding the love of your life, children, parents, work, everywhere we're Touching relationship, betrayal, all those things that we experience in our lives and how to look through different lenses about our challenges. So it's it's a it's been a big project and it's a beautiful project. And so we have it available in ⁓ on our website if people go to ask theo.com. Forward slash. And I know you don't say forward slash anymore. I don't know all the tech, but forward slash love. speaker-0: I hope everybody does go out and enrich their relationships with this work. Real quick before we go, I like to do this little rapid fire round and so very short answers and it's just to get to know you a little bit more. Okay. Tell us something about yourself that the guy audience probably would not know. speaker-1: I was a ski instructor. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah, in Colorado, I taught children how to ski. speaker-0: That sounds amazing. speaker-1: It was very fun. speaker-0: So maybe this would be a similar answer, I don't know, but what was your favorite ⁓ what is your favorite hobby or practice? speaker-1: ⁓ gosh. used to be skiing. ⁓ I I enjoy people a lot. So whenever I can be with people I enjoy that, whether it's going out to dinner or walking my dog, talking to the neighbors. I I really enjoy doing those things. speaker-0: Amazing, amazing. If you hadn't been chosen to channel for Theo, what do you think you would be doing in your life? speaker-1: I'd be an interior decorator. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. What is it about that that you like so much? speaker-1: I d sacred space is really important to me. And ⁓ you know, I feel our homes are a sanctuary, so I I really love creating a room. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. Well, that's amazing. I appreciate all your time. I appreciate you bringing in Theo for this conversation. And ⁓ I really think that at this crossroads in humanity, ⁓ what however we can describe what's happening, I think the wisdom that you were bringing through today as Sheila and through Theo is just a really good benefit for people to maybe go back and re-listen to this podcast because there's a lot of really rich beautiful things in there. So thank you so much for your time. speaker-1: ⁓ it's been my pleasure and enjoyed meeting you. Thank you. You've been listening to The Pulse, a Gaia-powered podcast for independent minds. For more transformative interviews, original series, and inspiring films, join the conscious community at Gaia.com. Start your journey.