Full Transcript for Hour 3 - Jaylen Brown Doesn't Want the Smoke + Hall of Fame DB Rod Woodson

It was very reminiscent to the initial Shaq-Kobe introduction, if you're old enough to remember that one. And unfortunately for Sixers fans, Jalen Brown to this point has not lived up to his end of the bargain. Two of four shooting, eight points, leads the game with three turnovers in a game they are trailing by 12. 00:02:58 Speaker 2: Listen, you know how I feel about it. I like drama. I like a little rivalry, a little beef in my sports. 00:03:05 Speaker 1: I don't mind. 00:03:06 Speaker 2: That's what makes this compelling. That's why a lot of people are going to be watching this game. But dang it, Jalen Brown! You remember when they said they asked him directly, is there beef? 00:03:14 Speaker 1: He said, oh, no, it ain't no beef. You know what I'm saying? It might be a little lamb chops and some gravy. Well, dang it. 00:03:19 Speaker 2: Share the chops and pass the gravy. And what I mean by that is stop with the innuendos, the passive aggressive. Jason Tatum comes out and says his piece, Rob. Hey, I didn't know what was going on. I thought this. Then they called me and they told me and I was like, what? And I didn't hear it. And my agent and I couldn't believe it. But we had some good time. That's a good brother. He's a great player. And we had a great run together. Whether it was right or wrong, you didn't put cap under there, the emoji, the cap emoji under the video and say all this and, oh, it ain't no beef. 00:03:49 Speaker 1: But it's lamb chops. 00:03:50 Speaker 2: For months now, Rob, he keeps insinuating something's going on, half saying it, half not. If it's something there, share, tell us. And then to see the dap up, Jason Tatum, for those, again, Rob G mentioned it in C, walks up, hey, man, like a grown man, hey, what's up, bro? He's spinning the ball, Jalen Brown, like, oh, I don't even see you. I don't even see you coming. Jason Tatum, he doesn't dap him, so he kind of pats his chest. 00:04:13 Speaker 1: What's up, man? 00:04:15 Speaker 2: And then you see Jason Tatum walk by, like, hey, does the shoulders shrug up? Like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I don't mind if there's drama, but I just want him to stand on it. I want him to say, yo, my man knew exactly what it was. I thought he was going to stand up for me. 00:04:28 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 00:04:29 Speaker 2: Whatever it is, whatever Jalen's thing is, say it. And I'm tired of the months and months of, No, that's not really what it was, y'all. Hey, Twitch fam. 00:04:37 Speaker 1: Hey, chat. 00:04:38 Speaker 2: Y'all don't even know, but I'm going to half say it. Yo, chat, they kind of play, but I ain't going to say it. But I'm going to kind of say it, but I'm not really going to say it. But you know, I'm going to say it. Tell us what happened or move on. Because Jason Tatum has said his piece. Whether it's true or not, he at least said it. 00:04:53 Speaker 1: He got it out. 00:04:54 Speaker 2: He was quiet all summer, going about his business. You're the one that keep talking about it and not saying anything. 00:04:59 Speaker 1: Rob, it's been months. Do you know what happened? Have you heard? Do you know? Yeah, I know what happened. You don't have to tell me anything. I know what happened. Do you know? But him saying this. No, no, no. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to say anything. It's not innuendo. But it's B, but it's Lamb Chop, but it's this. 00:05:15 Speaker 5: Cap. 00:05:15 Speaker 1: Cap emojis under stuff. This is, he's taking it out on Jason Tatum because he realized, and for the first time probably, he was told that you're not a tier one star. And I think that is what has hurt him. Seriously. Like you were the finals MVP, but you didn't make the Olympic team, right? No, that's facts. Okay. You just had a season nobody expected last year, right? MVP, Tatum. Tatum, right? 00:05:50 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. 00:05:50 Speaker 4: Wow, they were the number two seed. Look at what they did, right? And still, and Tatum got hurt again. 00:05:57 Speaker 1: And when push came to shove, you knew that they couldn't keep two $ 60 million a year players. And despite all of that, do you know what they did? They took the injured $ 60 million player and not the guy. 00:06:15 Speaker 4: Who said last season was his favorite or best or whatever he wanted to say. Not the season that they won a championship, and he was the finals MVP. 00:06:25 Speaker 1: So that rubbed people the wrong way. 00:06:28 Speaker 4: He also is one of those guys, and this is not about, oh, you know, if you're black, you can't be. 00:06:35 Speaker 1: Smart or whatever. It's a difference. 00:06:37 Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. 00:06:38 Speaker 1: Because it's like the Doug Gottlieb thing, being the smartest guy in the room, you know everything and nobody else knows. Like, there's that. That has nothing to do with whether you're black. You know what I mean? You know plenty. We all know people like that. 00:06:51 Speaker 4: And it's not cool to want to be around people like that or work with people like that. 00:06:55 Speaker 1: Nobody knows everything. 00:06:57 Speaker 4: And I think those are the things that he got pushed to the side and his feelings are really hurt and he's taking it out on Jason Tatum. Because he can't take it out on the Celtics. He can't take it out on other people. So the only person he can take this out on is Jason Tatum. Rip the Celtics for doing this. 00:07:17 Speaker 1: Where's that? That's fair. Because he doesn't do that. He doesn't say, like, that organization, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:07:25 Speaker 2: But that's my point. He doesn't even rip Tatum. He doesn't rip the Celtics. And he just capped this. I'm going to tell y'all, this is what it is. 00:07:31 Speaker 1: That ain't true. That ain't what they're saying. 00:07:33 Speaker 2: Because we saw what he did tonight. Otherwise, you wouldn't do that. No, I'm not disagreeing, but I'm saying... Then tell us, say, I thought that was my man. We both said it's ride or

die. We're going to stand up for each other. I'm just making it up, you know? And you say that, this is what, I thought we had each other's back. Come to find out you didn't. Don't say, he's got a good PR team, and da-da-da-da-da. I'm sick of the passive-aggressive innuendo thing. 00:07:55 Speaker 1: Say something. 00:07:56 Speaker 2: Also, everything you just laid out to me, you and I have been doing this show now for two-plus years. 00:08:01 Speaker 1: I've said this is how he's felt. Me and you kind of going back and forth about that. 00:08:05 Speaker 2: I've always said he felt like they're treating me like the lesser than a stepbrother in this case, even though I've kind of outperformed this guy the last couple of years. 00:08:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think that he really. 00:08:19 Speaker 1: In that they picked Jason over him? 00:08:21 Speaker 2: I'm going to agree with you. I think it affirmed. I think he already was like, man, they treat me like this. They're doing me like this. It doesn't make sense. And the minute it happened, it's like if you had it. 00:08:28 Speaker 1: Because you've got to remember. I feel like she's treating me like this. I feel like she's treating me like that. 00:08:31 Speaker 4: He's coming off that year of holding the team together where most people thought they were going to punt on the season, right? Remember, they traded the veteran guys and brought in young guys. Figured we'll develop some young guys this year. Let's move off of some of the older guys who were part of this who helped us win a championship. So right away, there's that. They get to the number two seat in the East, right, where people are like, Tatum joins them and is healthy. 00:08:55 Speaker 1: They got a shot to come out of the East. Like, a lot of people like where the Celtics were. And then push comes to shove. We can't keep both people. Who are you picking? 00:09:08 Speaker 4: The guy who just helped you get there or the guy who came back who was hurt and hurt again, right? 00:09:14 Speaker 1: Yeah. And you picked that guy. 00:09:16 Speaker 2: And that's why I think it's anybody's been in a relationship where you feel like, man, I'm giving my all to this person. I'm doing everything they asking me. We're doing great. And it's something in the back of your head. Like, I just feel like they're still not going to choose me or something's off. That's what I think. I think he was doing everything I asked over and beyond. And then it affirmed what he already was knowing. Like something ain't right. They don't, they just, they're not treating me the way I am. I should be the big dog here. I'm the one who's finals. I'm the one who did this. 00:09:41 Speaker 1: Why? You mentioned it. 00:09:42 Speaker 2: Now, why am I not on the Olympics? And I used to say to you, I feel like he felt like, man, I should be the one or dang it. I want my own team where I can show y'all. 00:09:49 Speaker 1: And I think. And then he goes to Philadelphia and it ain't his own team. Right. And now it's Maxie, it's LeBron, it's Embiid, it's so on and so on and so forth. Even in that situation. So, but. 00:10:00 Speaker 2: I just don't like the idea, Rob, that he just won't either be mum about it completely, just, hey, move on. Like you said, remember we were talking about it. 00:10:09 Speaker 1: Just be quiet. Hey, I'm mad, but I'm moving on. Let's go. 00:10:12 Speaker 2: It's a new season, new team. I'm happy in Philly. We look like we could be a contender and move on. 00:10:17 Speaker 4: But this kind of reminds me of of even Troy Aikman, who's mad, seriously. He's not mad at ESPN, who didn't even open up negotiations with him. 00:10:28 Speaker 1: Mad at Joe Buck. 00:10:28 Speaker 4: He's mad at Joe Buck. Dude, Jason Tatum didn't pick himself to stay on the Celtics. You mad at him? 00:10:36 Speaker 1: No. 00:10:37 Speaker 4: Where's the other team that got two $ 60 million players? 00:10:41 Speaker 1: He's not being honest. 00:10:42 Speaker 4: He's jealous and mad that they picked Tatum. And the person that he's going to lash out is, is the guy who had no decision on whether or not he got to stay because of the money. 00:10:54 Speaker 1: Would you agree with me? Yeah, I agree. They couldn't keep two $ 60 million players. They were both four. They'd be there. 00:10:59 Speaker 2: Right. And not to mention, he knows, too, I think it's punching down. 00:11:04 Speaker 1: Tatum's not that kind of guy. 00:11:06 Speaker 5: Right. 00:11:06 Speaker 1: He's going to take the more classy road even at night. They're always going to rough up the light-skinned guy. I'm just saying. You know I'm right. 00:11:14 Speaker 6: But doesn't it get you guys even— I know because we can't watch the game in studio if we're kind of following it on our phones, right? Yeah. 00:11:20 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown— knew. 00:11:21 Speaker 6: What he was doing by not dapping up Jason Tatum. Like, he knew that he's like, oh, I'm with the smoke. 00:11:26 Speaker 1: You knew everything was going to be okay. 00:11:27 Speaker 6: And then the game started, and he's eight points, a game worse, plus, minus, minus 15, and a game worse, three turnovers. 00:11:35 Speaker 1: So did you really want the smoke or what? Well, I'll say this. 00:11:39 Speaker 2: I think there's overcompensating of, like, they're going to expect me to be erratic and, you know, so I'm going to just play the game. I think he's doing that. 00:11:47 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying? They're going to expect me to chuck up everything. 00:11:49 Speaker 6: On the opposite end, Tatum and Paul George combined 30 points on 12 of 23 shooting, eight rebounds. 00:11:55 Speaker 1: They're both huge plus minus. 00:11:57 Speaker 5: Yeah. Like. 00:11:59 Speaker 6: Stand for something. You ain't going to say what you said. You ain't going to say what the problem is. Then at least ball out. I'm going to let my game do the talking. I'm not doing that either. 00:12:06 Speaker 1: No, that's fair.

00:12:07 Speaker 6: Hey, this is the world we live in. He's making me root for the Celtics, man, and I'm a Laker fan. 00:12:11 Speaker 1: This is ridiculous. Go on Twitch and say something. Yo, chat. 00:12:15 Speaker 2: Yo, chat, they lying to y'all. Rob, chat, they lying. I'm going to tell you what it is. But he ain't say nothing. Yo, that's cap. Yo, I'm going to put cap up under Jason Tatum's page. That's a lie, Rob. Then what is it? But I ain't going to say nothing. Hey, Jalen, we heard you recently. You heard what Jason Tatum said and everything. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, you know, I wouldn't say it's beef. He's a good dude. He got good PRs. Lamb chops and great. Like, dog, either move on or tell us what happened. Just get it out one good time. He ain't going to do that. I thought that was my man. I thought we was going to ride. He didn't stand up for me. He didn't speak up for me. I ain't like that. It's all good. But I just wanted to tell you where I was. But I would respect that. 00:12:53 Speaker 6: Okay, cool. 00:12:53 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what happened. You ready? Here it comes. I'm going to tell you right now. Here it is. I'm going to tell you. 00:12:59 Speaker 2: That's what he's been doing for six months. Six months of cap. Chat, here's the real story. What is it? I'm going to tell you on the next one. I'm a thinker. We're going to talk about it. 00:13:07 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it. I'm telling you. We're going to talk about it. I'm going to break it down for you. 00:13:14 Speaker 2: All right? 00:13:15 Speaker 5: Come on. 00:13:18 Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. Six months. Rob G. Rob Parker. Do you know any more of what Jalen Brown thought about what happened? 00:13:25 Speaker 2: After all this time, we done started the season. 00:13:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do know. I know he got his feelings hurt. But I'm saying what happened. It was confirmed. 00:13:31 Speaker 2: I know that, but I'm saying say... I was hurt because they promised me X. Or I was hurt because me and him sat down at a coffee shop and he told me, dog, if you. 00:13:38 Speaker 1: Leave, I leave. 00:13:39 Speaker 4: I think that he thought that, you know what I mean? Like, he got his feelings hurt. And he's blaming the only guy. 00:13:45 Speaker 1: Who ain't going to do nothing about it. Who ain't going to say nothing. Exactly. Who ain't going to take the high road. He could have gone crazy on the Celtics. Brad Stevens. Or I put everything on the line. That's how y'all treat me. Where's that? All right, 877-99 on Fox. 00:14:00 Speaker 4: Do you have a problem with Jalen Brown being so passive-aggressive with Jason Tatum? 00:14:04 Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: It is The Odd Couple, and we'll continue that conversation next right here on Fox Sports Radio. 00:14:14 Speaker 2: Every sports season is built on preparation, studying the trends, and making the necessary adjustments to reach the

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way, the Cups, that's right, they've turned red at Starbucks, which means the holidays have officially arrived. So sit down and celebrate with a friend in a caramel brulee latte, a peppermint mocha, a sugar cookie latte, or the new ice tiramisu velvet latte because the holidays are better together at Starbucks. Our man, Rod Woodson, coming up in a few minutes as well. Plus, we got last call. So still a lot left in this show. The holidays are right around the corner. I mean, I can't wait. I got my wife's birthday and Two days. My daughter's in, I don't know, 10 days. 00:17:25 Speaker 1: Does your wife expect anything or do you? 00:17:28 Speaker 2: No. Yes, but no, if that makes sense. I mean, they all give me something, but she's not like, you better get me this. Not like that. Just like, oh, if you get something cool, great. Yeah, we're not big on that. But I do got to go get something. Hopefully she ain't listening right now. All right. 00:17:40 Speaker 4: How about Chili Tim in Atlanta? We're talking about the feud, especially from Jalen Smith. 00:17:49 Speaker 1: Brown. Yeah, he didn't. No dap, Chili. No dap, Chili. What about that? 00:17:52 Speaker 8: Hey, what's up, fellas? How y'all doing tonight? 00:17:56 Speaker 1: Doing good. Chili, you got any $ 745 pants or not? No, I went by $ 745. Are you kidding? 00:18:01 Speaker 8: Oh, shoot. You're joking, right? I got like five. 00:18:08 Speaker 1: Kids, man. Oh, you got five. I didn't know you had that many, Chili. Chili was putting in the Lord's work. Hey, Chili, you know they have movies, right? I'm just saying. Chili is found in the Lord. 00:18:19 Speaker 8: They're all adults, and they're taking care of the youngest one. She'll be 25 next month. 00:18:24 Speaker 1: Oh, that's beautiful. Chili, you sound a day over 40. I know. You must be 78. 00:18:28 Speaker 8: I'm actually 58, fellas. I'm 58. 00:18:31 Speaker 1: No, you don't sound 58. He ain't play around. 58, and you have five kids? Chili, you sound about 34. 00:18:37 Speaker 5: Wow. 00:18:38 Speaker 8: No, I'm 58, man. But first of all, let me say, I like Jalen Brown. You know, he's from this area. He's from the Atlanta area. 00:18:45 Speaker 2: Yep. 00:18:46 Speaker 8: He does a lot of great things for the community. 00:18:48 Speaker 1: Agreed. 00:18:49 Speaker 8: Very thoughtful guy. But here's the thing, right? He's sort of like Kyrie Irving, right? Like, he reminds me, like, a lot of Kyrie Irving. They're very philosophical guys, and, you know, they kind of can be mercurial at times. You know, my dad used to tell me, it does no good for you to be deep if you're the only person that understands you, right? 00:19:09 Speaker 5: Like, what's the point? 00:19:10 Speaker 8: Nobody understands you but you. 00:19:12 Speaker 5: Right. 00:19:12 Speaker 8: And he kind of strikes me that way, like, You know, and he's in his feelings, and he won't say what he has to say. But I think it was because of his personality. Because, you know, he's been

with the Celtics a lot longer than Tatum. And he was successful, actually, with the Celtics before Tatum got there. Because, you know, there were a couple times that they were close to taking out LeBron when he was playing for Cleveland. But it's just his attitude. Like, he just, you can't get close to him. He's hard to kind of gauge. Even the people here say that about him. They say, you know, you just can't figure him out, you know? Good dude, but he's... just. 00:19:50 Speaker 1: Chili, can I give you another example? You said Kyrie. I'll add one. 00:19:54 Speaker 2: Rob, you know this. You started covering the league his last few years. Kareem, Where, like, people feel like I couldn't. 00:20:01 Speaker 5: Get to him. 00:20:01 Speaker 2: I don't really know him. Don't really, you know, what is his thoughts? And Kareem, same way, right? We know all the stuff. He stood up injustices, civil rights, all that good stuff. But, you know, a lot of people feel like I never really get him, understand him. A lot of people felt like he was aloof and all that good stuff, man. Chili, appreciate it. 00:20:17 Speaker 8: All right, guys. 00:20:19 Speaker 1: No doubt. Appreciate it. And Michigan State goes down to Duke, and they get it done. 00:20:25 Speaker 5: 79-73. 00:20:26 Speaker 2: And I was just reading an article saying how Shire, they said you can dunk on him all you want, but he's going to win this year. 00:20:32 Speaker 1: Something like that was the article in The Athletic, Rob G. That ain't what happened. Yeah, okay. We got Hall of Fame. 00:20:38 Speaker 5: Look at that. 00:20:38 Speaker 1: First win since, what is it, 2021 against the top two teams. I never saw a top two. 00:20:45 Speaker 2: You know I'm from Ann Arbor and I'm gold blue, but you made me win Michigan State just to see how mad you would be if it's in the national championship. That would be great to watch. We've been waiting for that for 30 years. 25-something years. Steve's getting ready to get you updated and we'll have Rob Woodson on the other side. 00:21:00 Speaker 1: Hey, Steve. 00:21:01 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington. Weekdays at 7 p.m. Eastern, 4 p.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 00:21:12 Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve. Have a great night. It's The Odd Couple. 00:21:14 Speaker 2: Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington on a Trash Talker Tuesday, which was a spirited one because all they basically did was say, can't believe you spent $ 750 on a pair of pants. 00:21:22 Speaker 1: $ 745. 00:21:23 Speaker 2: Let's ask somebody who's a Hall of Famer. Who's made some nice money in his life and career. 00:21:28 Speaker 1: He's made big money. Yeah, here we go. Rob Woodson joining us now. Rob, earlier today, how are you? You there, Rod? 00:21:38 Speaker 5: I'm good. All right. 00:21:39 Speaker 1: Rod, they're giving me a hard time. No, go ahead. 00:21:41 Speaker 2: Well, listen, Rod, so we started the show

earlier, and Rod looks fly. He's got the fly uncle look, just chill, nice little, think of it like a sweatsuit, even though the pants aren't sweats. 00:21:50 Speaker 1: They're like joggers. And then he tells us this. 00:21:53 Speaker 2: He had us guess how much he spent on these pants, the most expensive pants he's ever purchased. No deal, no sale, just straight-up retail. Because, Rod, they were in my closet for three years. The tags were still on them. I was like, I got to wear these. What was the most expensive pair of pants you paid for? 00:22:07 Speaker 5: Oh, shoot. 00:22:08 Speaker 1: Not tailor-made, like off the rack, you know. 00:22:10 Speaker 5: What I mean? Well, off the rack, not a whole bunch. Maybe $ 75, $ 85. 00:22:17 Speaker 1: Now times that by 10. Rod, $ 750. Rod, we got the tag on it. Rod, that's what I paid three years ago. I know. 00:22:26 Speaker 5: I mean, listen, listen. Now, I don't even know if my whole suit cost that much. 00:22:31 Speaker 2: I know. 00:22:31 Speaker 1: Right? 00:22:32 Speaker 2: Hey, I wear suits every day doing the news, Rod, and I don't know if I spent that much on a suit. 00:22:37 Speaker 4: But, Rod, here's the flip side. My cell phone bill, what is it, Kelvin? 00:22:42 Speaker 1: $ 15. A month, my cell phone bill, okay? 00:22:45 Speaker 5: So you're frugal in other places. 00:22:46 Speaker 1: Right. See, Rod, and that's the thing. 00:22:49 Speaker 5: You want to look good, though, but you want to have your... some type of little ghetto phone. 00:22:55 Speaker 1: Yes. Hey, in Texas, it works. You know what I mean? I get service. I'm fine. 00:23:01 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got you. 00:23:03 Speaker 2: Rob, big news today. Kirk Cousins, now the quarterback, went back to the Vikings. You know defense, one of the better defenders of all time, and you played on some amazing teams, specifically that Ravens team. 00:23:14 Speaker 1: Ridiculous. 00:23:14 Speaker 2: But how good is this defense? What you saw last night, the final score doesn't do any justice how good they were against the Bills. And then now Kirk Cousins' return. What do you make of it? 00:23:24 Speaker 5: I mean, they scored 23 points, and they held the ball for over 40 minutes. 00:23:29 Speaker 1: Was it 45? It was 43 to be exact, yep. 00:23:31 Speaker 5: Yeah, 43 minutes. I mean, so, I mean, the offense for the Minnesota Vikings was– Horrendous. 00:23:39 Speaker 4: I can't believe how bad Carson Wentz, Wentzel Vano, Wentz in a lifetime. Remember, we were calling him that when he almost won the MVP. And, Rod, he looked like he can't play football. He should have been cut this morning. 00:23:52 Speaker 5: I mean, it looked like– I mean, it just– I don't know if that's a mental thing, but, I mean, he was– all his passes seem like they just had like a lob pass. It looked like a woman's softball pitch. Like what in the world was he throwing the ball and who was he throwing the ball to? And it's just unfortunate. But listen, the higher-ups, the personnel department has said, listen, all we need is a quarterback. We need somebody that can throw the football to a couple players here and there. take the pressure off that defense, get some first downs. And if they get first downs, the defense is going to stay fresh. They're going to keep people from staying at scoring consistently. And I think that's what they did. I mean, I think I thought it was a great move. 00:24:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. 00:24:37 Speaker 4: Jefferson wears like a three-roll diamond-studded necklace. 00:24:42 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. 00:24:43 Speaker 1: You see it. I mean, you can't miss it, Rod. 00:24:44 Speaker 5: Dancing. 00:24:46 Speaker 1: Diamonds are dancing. Am I right? 00:24:47 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 00:24:48 Speaker 1: Rod, I'm shocked he goes out there to play football with that on. Because I think if I was a player, a defensive player, I'd pop that chain. I'm just saying. Give me that chain. 00:24:57 Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, I mean, you know, the old school ways, like you ain't going to look, you ain't going to just like think you can just wear some of these vests out here and then they ain't going to get taken. Like we, we, because hey, listen, remember, it's all fair, right? Grabbing a necklace is a part of his uniform. 00:25:12 Speaker 6: Right. 00:25:13 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I can't get over it. 00:25:16 Speaker 5: You know, I never grabbed anybody here that was hanging out of their helmet or anything, but you could, right? So it's a part of the uniform. You know, I'm just, I'm not a fan of it. That's what these new dudes like. They like to wear their chains and all that stuff. But I'm an old-school guy. I like the old-school way. But if these new-school guys think they can play at their best with jewelry hanging all over themselves, then, you know, go– I mean, go do it. 00:25:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying. All right, what about the Jaguars? They're pushing all their chips to the middle of the table. You like what they're doing, and why not? They feel like they've turned the corner. 00:25:55 Speaker 5: They feel like this is the year. I mean, they're all in, right? All their chips is on the pass line. So they feel that they can win the Super Bowl this year. Do I think they can win the Super Bowl this year? I think it's really close. I've seen them last week playing against the Ravens. I don't think the Ravens are playing their best football. But looking at them consistently, can they throw the football down the field? I think they did some good things throwing the football down the field. They're decently running the football, even though they didn't run the football great against the Ravens. The defense can get pressure on the quarterback. Can they win the Super Bowl going all in like they have, getting the multiple players that they did? I'm not sure. I don't know if that made them better because I think they needed a playmaking receiver, and that's something they still don't have

like that elite receiver, and I still don't think they have that. 00:26:57 Speaker 4: I want to talk about all in, and everybody wanted to hand the Rams a Super Bowl before the season started. And now Puka, I know it's not official yet if he's going to go on IR yet or whatever. 00:27:09 Speaker 1: But, man, it ain't what it was. They were crashing down, didn't they? 00:27:14 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were supposedly the greatest team ever assembled, and a lot of stuff just hasn't happened for that team. 00:27:19 Speaker 1: And their margin of error now is so small. 00:27:22 Speaker 4: They can't lose more than a game or two, and the season probably is over for them. 00:27:26 Speaker 1: How shocked are you where they are? 00:27:29 Speaker 5: Unfortunate that, you know, Puka got hit in the knee. 00:27:32 Speaker 1: Should he have been out there for that play? 00:27:35 Speaker 4: It was the last play, and you're winning. 00:27:40 Speaker 5: Listen, do you keep throwing the ball? And I'm not going to blame coaches. Players like to play. Sometimes you've got to protect the players from themselves. Having Devontae already out and now losing him, You get Miles Garrett's back, but now you lose the other guy on the other side. I mean, it's just, yeah. And you said it, their margin error is minimal. They can't lose that many more games or they're going to be looking at a wild card and that's going to be, you know, it's going to be hard to get into in the NFC. 00:28:18 Speaker 4: Because of the NFC North, all those teams, the Packers are 6-3 in last place. Rod, there will be no room for the Rams because of the NFC North and all those good teams already. 00:28:30 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if they keep training in that pathway, I mean, you've still got another... you've got a lot more football left. So if somebody just falls off a cliff, right, they just start losing. 00:28:43 Speaker 1: The Seahawks are the only hope, man. But the Seahawks and the 49ers are in their way, too, is what I'm saying. You know what I mean? The 49ers are pretty much good. Yeah. Yeah. 00:28:51 Speaker 2: Hey, Rob, what's it on with the iCouple on a trash-talking Tuesday? I want to go to a team here in L.A., and I don't want to go to the Rams. What the heck is up with the Chargers? If I told you on paper that there would be a team, specifically a quarterback, that would be 0-11, his last 11 games, including last season, and 37 drives without a touchdown, you would say that guy was on the bench, right? Or they traded or something. How is it that he's still starting? How is it that McDaniels is still calling calls? How is it Jim Harbaugh's still the coach? Make it make sense, Rod. 00:29:23 Speaker 5: All right. I can't make it make sense. I'm like, I'm scratching my head too. I mean, I feel like, you know, if you could scratch your brain, this is one of them will scratch my brain on because I just don't get it. It's like, it's like they were McDaniels was running the same offense. He ran in

Miami, but he doesn't have the same. players. You have to adjust your offensive system to the players you have on hand. And trying to play in small windows in space like they did with Tyreek and Waddle and all those guys is... You can't do that. They don't have those guys. And then, you know... And I've got much respect for all players in the National Football League, but Herbert is as talented as he is. We have to say something. 00:30:09 Speaker 1: Right, 100%. 00:30:11 Speaker 5: We have to say something about his play. And no matter what they're calling, what kind of plays they're calling, he's still pulling the trigger. And he just hasn't played to the level that I know he has in him. But that's been an inconsistency he's had throughout his career so far as being in the National Football League. 00:30:30 Speaker 4: And if you think about it, Rod, it was always blamed that all these other, the coordinators, everybody else got the blame. 00:30:36 Speaker 1: And now what are you doing here? 00:30:38 Speaker 4: And the idea that you could go 37 straight drives without a touchdown is mind-boggling. 00:30:45 Speaker 1: With all the points being put up in the NFL now. 00:30:48 Speaker 5: Because elite quarterbacks make you better. Even when everything unfolds that's not positive, they still make you better. And he just hasn't done that consistently for his team. 00:31:05 Speaker 2: I mean, even Miami's able to eke out some wins, and the Saints have done some things. Like, you know, there's something. The Jets were in some games, and this has just been terrible for them. They can't score, they can't win. It's been awful as well. 00:31:18 Speaker 1: You got one, Rob? Yeah, I do. 00:31:21 Speaker 4: Rod, how many years you been around the National Football League between playing, coaching, broadcasting, right? 00:31:29 Speaker 5: Since 1987. Right. 00:31:31 Speaker 1: Like me. 00:31:31 Speaker 4: That's when I started covering the NFL. Because, you know, I covered Lawrence Taylor. I was in New York in 1987 when he was playing, right? So I've been around the game for a long time. Did you see what happened to James Cook. 00:31:44 Speaker 1: Last night, Rod? 00:31:46 Speaker 3: What? 00:31:47 Speaker 5: What happened to him? 00:31:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't see it, did you? He didn't see it. He didn't see it. 00:31:50 Speaker 5: Uh-uh, I didn't see it. 00:31:51 Speaker 1: Don't ruin Rod's night. 00:31:52 Speaker 5: No, I'm not Rod. 00:31:52 Speaker 1: Don't ruin Rod's night. 00:31:53 Speaker 4: I never saw this, and that's why I asked Rod, because he's been around a long time. You're wearing, you know, your football pants. You got whites on, your whites or whatever. And he gets tackled. Like, as he's being tackled, Rod, you got to watch the video. And there's a little brown stain on. 00:32:11 Speaker 1: On his shorts. See, no, don't say stinkers. It makes it sound like it was already there. 00:32:14 Speaker 5: No, no. 00:32:14 Speaker 1: You see it happen in real time. I never saw that happen. 00:32:19 Speaker 5: No, come on. Come on. Come on. I watched the game, but I guess I didn't see that. 00:32:25 Speaker 1: Well, be happy. I didn't see it either, Rod. He made me watch it. 00:32:27 Speaker 5: Was that at the end of the game? 00:32:28 Speaker 1: Rob G., when was that exactly? When did that happen? Third quarter? Third quarter. But you'll see. All you got to do, Ron, just Google. All you got to do is put in James Cook. James Cook. 00:32:40 Speaker 5: I'm going to NFL.com right now and watch you replay. 00:32:43 Speaker 1: No, they might not do it because they might not want it out there. You got to Google. 00:32:46 Speaker 4: Just Google James Cook pants. 00:32:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he already denied and said that wasn't it. And I wanted to be on Team James and not Team Rob, but I can't lie. after looking at it all i'm saying is i've never seen that like like god you know what i mean it wasn't like it was a hit from rod too like you know i'm. 00:33:06 Speaker 5: Getting ready i'm gonna go do it right. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: Now rod all right man appreciate you as always hey rod. 00:33:14 Speaker 4: Rod's gonna be like oh man why he ain't coming on next week but man y'all made me see that rob g don't ever call me back appreciate. 00:33:22 Speaker 1: You rod. 00:33:24 Speaker 2: No doubt, man. Good to chop it up. Yeah, I thought you were exaggerating a little bit. I'm all right.