Full Transcript for Hour 2 - Let Travis Hunter Play Both Ways + USA Today NFL columnist Jarrett Bell

he's too tired as a dB or whatever and he's getting burnt out there or he's dropping passes as a wide receiver, then as a coach, I could say, okay, I'm done, but I think this is a mistake not to let this kid explore everything. That's laid out for him. He's a special pertion because we just haven't seen it. 00:06:12 Speaker 6: They've been telling him we can't do it every step of the way to Rob, all right, you can't do it in college like that. 00:06:17 Speaker 4: You can do a player too, Okay, you can't. 00:06:19 Speaker 6: The dude plays like almost eighty ninety percent of the snaps on both sides of the ball. It's crazy. He's just a freak of nature like that. He's built for it, and he and he wants to try. But here I'm gonna go I'm gonna scale it back even a little bit more than what you were just saying. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: Rob. 00:06:32 Speaker 6: You know, want to know why the NFL sometimes get called the not fund league the no fun league, because, let's say, Rob, even if it makes sense what they say, Hey, that's too much in the NFL. It's too hard, it's too specialized. The guys are better than college players. Okay, I will concede that point to you. He couldn't do both at the combine and underwearing tank tops. He couldn't go dB receiver at the combine. 00:07:00 Speaker 4: That's the stupidest thing for me. 00:07:02 Speaker 6: Everybody's there, Rob g just said, one hundred media folks there he's the Rainy Heisman Trophy winner. We can't just enjoy this for two or three days in Indianapolis. Ain't nothing else happening. Okay, I mean not take a shot at Indianapolis. 00:07:13 Speaker 4: I like, now they got the Saint Elbows has great shrimp cock. Yet shout to them, shot at them. Have you been there? 00:07:18 Speaker 3: No? 00:07:19 Speaker 4: I haven't it a great restaurant. I'm telling them, I've been. 00:07:21 Speaker 6: To the Inniapolis's pretty actually, got a bunch of Washington's out there, a lot of family that I didn't even know I had when I went out there. 00:07:26 Speaker 4: But that's not my point. 00:07:27 Speaker 1: My point is, I know Robb G's never been close to Indianapolis. That's just so far from la. 00:07:31 Speaker 6: If I told him as a bunch of black folk, he'd be there. You know, Robb G is Honorey Black. Actually didn't evend it. He's just black at this point. Now, my point is, it's the combine. You can't just go to the combine and let him play dban receiver like the NFL is a overthinking this. It's just the combine, it's just the show. It's just a spectacle. Let him do it there. Now, when we get to the league. I believe to your point, there's a big campaign you have, like if he signed with Nike, you can already see the whole Remember Bo just does when Bo Jackson had all those commercials. Bow knows, Bo knows this, Bow knows that, Dion Sanders and the like. There's a whole campaign you can build around this kid. What's he gonna do? What is he canna be? You run with the mystery of it. I believe eventually it

plays itself out where he becomes just a you know, a receiver, where he becomes just a dB. Eventually you get to that place where all right levels out. We know what he's gonna be. We'll throw him a trick, play here, gadget play here. We'll let him return a kick, punt or something, a punt or a kick return here or there. But the idea that you just cancel it right now is ridiculous. If I'm a team that is about to get Travis Hunter, We're gonna keep the mystery alive. I want people buying tickets. I want it to unexpected, to surprise. You never know what he's gonna be, what he can do, and you build up the momentum for how unique and special vitality is I'm not gonna shut it down before it even starts. So to me, I'm just shocked that they that they won't see the opportunity for this in the marketing end of it, for the. 00:08:56 Speaker 4: Fun of the league of it. 00:08:57 Speaker 6: And going back to our simple point, not even in T shirts and draws, can the man be a dB and a receiver. That's just come on. With the NFL, that's just ridiculous. There's no reason why he should have did both at the combine. 00:09:09 Speaker 1: Right, That's as simple as a guess the easiest right, right. But I just think, what what's so wrong? Like they could have they the Angels could have told show, hey, what are you doing? 00:09:23 Speaker 4: Just come over here. All we need to do is play every day and we need your bat or whatever. 00:09:29 Speaker 1: No, they were like, Okay, nobody's done it since the twenties, since Babe Ruth. 00:09:34 Speaker 4: Let's sell let's try it. 00:09:36 Speaker 1: And because it's right and and the worst thing that can happen is he doesn't play well on one of the two sides. You decide, okay, as a dB or as a he's not a wide receiver, he's a dB or whatever it is. And then you go and say we're going to go to that. No, no egg on his face, no issues, nothing, It's just like, Okay, we tried it. We think it's too much for him to be able to do both, and we're getting fifty percent of each rather than one hundred percent on one. 00:10:06 Speaker 6: I think to just be saying no's right now is crazy when we saw Deon Sanders do it from kick returns and punt returns and obviously a couple of plays here or there, you know, in a slot or something like. To just say no already is what's crazy to me. I'm gonna just play, see what we got, let it go, let us see what the fans want to see from him, and have a little fun with it. 00:10:24 Speaker 4: That's just me. 00:10:25 Speaker 6: And eventually, like I said, it'll level itself out. He'll find his ground and find what he's best at between the two positions, and you move on from there. But to just deny it right now, before we even he's even on a team, it's crazy. So if I'm a team, I'm drafting him and I'm saying, man, the sky's the limit. We can see what you can do, well, see how far we can take this, and eventually we'll find a home for you in a position. 00:10:44 Speaker 4: But let's just see, let's have some fun with it. 00:10:46 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think it's a mistake by the NFL. And you're right, you said it earlier, the no fun league. 00:10:52 Speaker 6: Sometimes they out think him. Remember I told you that one. Remember what were we talking about saying you overthink it? What was that again? 00:10:58 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:10:58 Speaker 6: Was the coach who went on the mic was like, hey, don't stow in the court. Sometimes you just overthink things. To me, the combine who freaking cares, let him go be a dB and a wide receiver. 00:11:07 Speaker 4: He can do it. He can do it. I think he can. 00:11:08 Speaker 6: He just went trophies for both of them in college. He's you know, NFL, shoot, let's not let's throw him. You know, fifteen players of offensive game. 00:11:17 Speaker 4: You know what? There was? There was another rob G I don't know if you had you didn't. 00:11:20 Speaker 1: Have this cut of a Hunter being an interviewed. You said how many people one hundred reporters and stuff for around him? And then some people said, uh so, uh, you know, you could be a wide receiver or you could be a dB, and Hunter said this. 00:11:36 Speaker 4: What do you say? 00:11:38 Speaker 2: There? You go? Yeah? 00:11:44 Speaker 6: One movie was that from again, that's scared. You think it was a little and the window in there. 00:11:51 Speaker 4: I think so. And what did he mean by that? 00:11:54 Speaker 6: Well, I think he was talking about the yellow brick road, right, No, but no, no, I don't remember. 00:11:58 Speaker 1: The scene, you know that, right, But but he's going, some people go this way, some people go that way, then again some people go both. 00:12:07 Speaker 4: With me, that was the loss and they was freaky. 00:12:08 Speaker 6: Back in the thirties forties, they was freaky, and we talk about it nowadays it's just more out there. 00:12:13 Speaker 4: They was freaking out. I'm gonna say this. On those movies, though, I'm gonna tell you this. 00:12:18 Speaker 1: Women used to get beat up and slapped around and movies in the forties. 00:12:22 Speaker 4: Do you ever watch those movies? Oh my gosh, all they do is slap women. I can't even like, I can't even watch it. Crazy to watch it, a little too much excitement in your voice. 00:12:31 Speaker 2: I needed you to be. 00:12:33 Speaker 4: Back in the day, they used to slap right up. I mean, honestly, me and Monsie were kind of wait for you to get to your point. 00:12:37 Speaker 6: Where they were like, I thought he was going. I thought he's gonna anyway. And I'm glad things have changed I'm glad to hurry up, get to that ro You had that nervous for a minute. 00:12:48 Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying around back then, I watch have you seen it? Have you seen it? Excited? But they used to be like you ever seen these movies? No, I don't think I'm missing much either. 00:13:00 Speaker 6: No, No, they would be. It's always like, yeah, like that, you're going to be home, woman,

I'm home when I'm home, like it. 00:13:07 Speaker 4: Was regular, Rob g Am, I lying or they are not lying? You so right, you can't turn left? Rock there you go. You got to check three right away. One of the people. Look at the scarecrow cracking a little in the windows back in the day. 00:13:21 Speaker 1: The point is, what is the point that he should be able to play both ways? 00:13:25 Speaker 4: Offense and defense. That's the biggest point in this home. Well, this is what I do. I'm supposed to make it. 00:13:34 Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, pancakes, all kinds of stuff. 00:13:38 Speaker 4: I'm done. 00:13:39 Speaker 6: But one of them is actually the pancakes. Actually, Rob Jesus, here you go. 00:13:44 Speaker 4: Allrightb. 00:13:46 Speaker 1: Next year when we go, we're not having breakfast with him? Rob g is that something we are not getting together? Before? 00:13:51 Speaker 6: You act like you didn't do this at dinner too, eating the man bread hot hot fresh bread. 00:13:57 Speaker 4: You ate hot fresh buns of his? Did you? Did you? 00:14:01 Speaker 7: Did you? 00:14:02 Speaker 4: Did you? Now? The bread turned it to buns. Mantie can't remember. It was a big difference between the buns and slice bread. I didn't remember. Okay, it was a month ago. Some people go both ways. Just brought us back full circuit. We're ready to go for a tease, and you had to make it weird. You do. 00:14:25 Speaker 6: I'm just saying I remember you made it weird. You asked for He was like, O, can you bring out his buns first? 00:14:30 Speaker 4: And I was like, what's that bread? His bread? 00:14:32 Speaker 2: Fun? 00:14:32 Speaker 4: I never forgot. 00:14:33 Speaker 1: I remembered, all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. 00:14:40 Speaker 4: She is so beautiful. It's ridiculous, Taylor Rooks. She is. She is ridiculous, very nice. All right? 00:14:47 Speaker 1: Should NFL teams allow Travis Hunter to be a full time two way player at the next level. 00:14:53 Speaker 4: We'll continue that conversation next with you. It is the odd couple. 00:14:57 Speaker 1: Rob Parker Kelvin Washington right here on a TV th song Thursday. 00:15:00 Speaker 4: You think you slicked to you said that right, because you're talking about the buns right here on Fox Sports Radio. 00:15:05 Speaker 1: No, I had nothing to do with the buns stick and stay. 00:15:13 Speaker 4: I wasn't eating red f funes and go both ways. You know what it is WOD. 00:15:19 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live. 00:15:31 Speaker 4: Hey Mary, Oh, it's kind of up. They sold us for the Golden Girls, right you hit up? That's right? 00:15:42 Speaker 6: Quick trivia for you? Do you know who that was singing? She's about to sing again right here? Who is this? 00:15:50 Speaker 4: Mary J?

Blise this one? I'm glad? Who's that? 00:15:57 Speaker 6: She was the star on the show. Uh you and I t wan Queen Latif? Is that Queen latv yees star of the show, also sang and wrapped the intro song. 00:16:08 Speaker 4: All right, nice yea makes sense? 00:16:09 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:16:09 Speaker 4: All right? 00:16:09 Speaker 6: Here having it is the couple Robert Kevin on the TV theme song Thursday coming to you live from the tire rag dot com studios. Tire rack dot Com is gonna help you get there an unmatched selection fast free shipping. Free road has a protection at over ten thousand recommended installers tire rack dot com the way tire buying should be talking about Travis Hunter. Look, when you can win an award on both sides of the ball by special, you're not normal. 00:16:35 Speaker 4: And he says he's is different. 00:16:37 Speaker 6: He is NFL saying we gotta be one thing at the you gotta be a dB only at the combine. Everyone's saying you can play one position in the league. Robin I both agreed. Let him give it a shot? 00:16:46 Speaker 4: Why not? And what say you a seven to seven niney nine O one Fox? 00:16:49 Speaker 1: So we got Scott in Pennsyl Tucky. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. 00:16:53 Speaker 2: What's up Scott Hey, best team in the radio. 00:16:56 Speaker 8: Thanks for taking my call. 00:16:58 Speaker 4: Appreciate you with a doubt. 00:17:00 Speaker 9: Let this, let this young man show off. Is God given town, right, my gosh, who knows? 00:17:07 Speaker 2: And making it short. 00:17:09 Speaker 9: In the long run, there could be a bunch of older guys there, coaches scratching their head saying, wow, we have something special here. 00:17:18 Speaker 6: Yeah, I just due. He's gonna level out. He's not gonna pay ninety percent of snaps on both sides for ten. 00:17:24 Speaker 1: Years, right right? Let me see, Yeah, uh, Dre in Michigan. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drake? 00:17:32 Speaker 7: What's up? My good people? 00:17:33 Speaker 2: Y all all right? 00:17:34 Speaker 6: Yo? 00:17:34 Speaker 2: What up? 00:17:35 Speaker 4: Drake? Yes, good to hear from you. 00:17:36 Speaker 7: I'm good, Thank you, Kevin Ay, Kevin Yo. Hey, when we said ride out. 00:17:41 Speaker 4: To l A. 00:17:41 Speaker 7: He wasn't sapping another man better or touching the bus. 00:17:48 Speaker 1: You said he got l A fire, Drey Drey, I just had brand I ain't had nobody's buds. 00:17:55 Speaker 4: I want you to know that, you. 00:17:57 Speaker 7: Know you want to do. 00:18:00 Speaker 1: That's the last time I'm gonna order bread, ask for anybody's bread. 00:18:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, please do and then the next morning at it. 00:18:08 Speaker 4: Okay, go ahead, twelve hour span. 00:18:11 Speaker 7: But no, I think as far as like the combat, yeah, that's stupid. Letting me go ahead and and go do what you know why they receive ran dB. As far as the season, it's like I was telling Rod, if you got kids, sometimes the risk is not worth proving yourself right. We know, can't nobody play both sides. 00:18:28 Speaker 4: But they did it. 00:18:29 Speaker 1: They did it before, though, dra They used to do it in the NFL. 00:18:33 Speaker 7: I'm okay, right, but back then I think the money wasn't like it is now. Now it's about investments. That's why they changed most of these rules because they're trying to protect their investment. So you're not gonna pay this man millions of dollars and then he only gonna play four or five games because he hurt the rest, you know. And then not just that, but if you her number one wide receiver in your number one dB, he gets hurt, You hurt on both sides of the ball. 00:18:53 Speaker 4: But Drake, my biggest point is it's a few plays. 00:18:56 Speaker 6: Like I'm not saying you're scheming in eighty but I'm not gonna shut the eye idea down right now. Plus from a marketing to I'm selling tickets, man, I'm not shutting anything down now. 00:19:05 Speaker 7: They did Dion, I would model it like how they did Dion. You starle defense. But we got a couple offensive plays for you to get busy with. 00:19:12 Speaker 4: YEP. 00:19:13 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with trying it. That's what I'm saying. Let the kid try it. Thanks for the call, Drey, appreciate it. Andrew and Bakersfield, California. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Andrew? 00:19:24 Speaker 2: What's up? 00:19:25 Speaker 9: Guys? Uh? I got Walter Payton as my number one greatest athlete of all times, and I got Bo Jackson his number two. He was a running back and he also played baseball. 00:19:38 Speaker 4: He was the center fielder for Kansas City. 00:19:40 Speaker 9: Yeah, he was an amazing hitter. And I think Travis Sunner should let this man go and uh uh he'll be uh. I lost my train of thought. 00:19:52 Speaker 4: Ok, all right, but we got your point. 00:19:53 Speaker 6: Let him try it, you got And yeah again, I just don't think it's sustainable. 00:19:58 Speaker 4: We know that. I just think the idea of poo pool and it's shutting it down. Now, that's right. Who came up with that poop poo? I don't know. You said you're the poo pool king. 00:20:06 Speaker 1: I'm the pool I'm the poo pool king. Absolutely there, you have it, all right, Jared Bell. 00:20:11 Speaker 4: You never went to a Chinese restaurant and had a pool pool platter? 00:20:15 Speaker 1: That? 00:20:15 Speaker 4: I haven't had the pool rob g you ever have a pool pool platter? No, that wasn't the menu when I was there. 00:20:20 Speaker 1: Mary, have you had a pool pool platter? They used to sell no bread at a Chinese restaurant? Come on, Mary, what are you talking about? 00:20:29 Speaker 4: All right? 00:20:29 Speaker 1: We got if they put bread on the table at a Chinese restaurant, get up and walk out. 00:20:33 Speaker 6: Yeah that ain't that ain't that's somebody else in the back round. Let me see you've never seen that. Let me see the buns. Those

are fire. 00:20:43 Speaker 4: At a Chinese restaurant. They have buns like. 00:20:48 Speaker 6: Delicacy, like the borderline melting your mouth. Don't think like traditional. But can you put a hamburger on it? 00:20:55 Speaker 2: No? 00:20:55 Speaker 4: Okay, what is wrong with you? 00:20:58 Speaker 2: Mary? 00:20:58 Speaker 6: I'm a sophisticated and some point what I don't want to be sophisticated. 00:21:02 Speaker 4: I want to be me. 00:21:03 Speaker 6: I just want to be me. You are well, nothing but that Jared Bell, who knows you well. Hall of Fame, Hall of famer. 00:21:09 Speaker 4: That's right. 00:21:09 Speaker 6: We're gonna talk to him USA today, NFL columnists. We'll get to him, talks some football with him in just a minute. But right now, it's what's trading Manzieline? 00:21:15 Speaker 1: You know MONSI Rob, you can be a sophisticated version of yourself. 00:21:19 Speaker 4: You think so, you don't want to be you want to be getting to be ghetto. I have an Ivy League education. How could I be got a ghetto? 00:21:27 Speaker 6: Because you order taketos from seven to eleven regularly. 00:21:30 Speaker 4: Yes, I'm trying. 00:21:33 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm thinking about going to get my PhD at USC That's what I'm live just because first time? 00:21:39 Speaker 4: What do you need it for? 00:21:41 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 00:21:52 Speaker 6: And It's The oct Couple Robin Kelvin on a TV theme song Thursday, Join now by the Hall of Famer. That's right, Jared bell USA today in a fell columnist Jared Bell on X give him a follow if you don't already, brother, Jared? 00:22:05 Speaker 4: What's up man? How are you? 00:22:07 Speaker 2: Oh? Hanging in there? 00:22:08 Speaker 1: Rob? 00:22:08 Speaker 2: How you doing? Bro? 00:22:09 Speaker 4: I'm doing good? 00:22:10 Speaker 2: How are you? 00:22:11 Speaker 4: I wanted to say that in twenty twenty two he won the. 00:22:15 Speaker 1: Bill a non memorial Award and is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 00:22:19 Speaker 4: We always got to give you your flower. Sure, absolutely, what's happening? 00:22:25 Speaker 8: Thank you, sir. I appreciate that I'm sitting here at the NABJ Combine gathering that our mad Clarence Hill and d Labbatter put together. So okay, you hear some of the noise in the background. 00:22:39 Speaker 1: All right, I want to know how many black writers are covering the NFL at this dinner? 00:22:43 Speaker 4: How many? How many are out there? I'm curious? 00:22:46 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 00:22:47 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's probably about forty people. 00:22:50 Speaker 4: That's a big wow. That's a lot, y'all. Y'all waited the nab jail. 00:22:53 Speaker 1: I know, right, that's like that's a sports test on your way, right, very nice? All right, Well, you wrote a a great piece the other day about, uh, the terrible hiring record of the NFL. 00:23:07 Speaker 4: What was me? 00:23:08 Speaker 1: What a shocker as far as the offensive coordinator ever since Eric b enemy right got the ziggy basically so Jared. The stat that's in there that's incredible is oh for twenty nine, Yeah, that there have been twenty nine openings and no black offensive coordinator coaches have been hired to be offensive coordinator. What do you what do you make of this? And what's happened to the NFL? 00:23:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 00:23:34 Speaker 8: I don't think that that's ever happened in back to back years over the past say, twenty twenty five thirty years, there was always, you know, a black coordinator in the league. Somewhere doing you know, getting opportunities. And you know, we've talked about the issue with you know, black head coaches being hired and the you know, abysmal numbers when it comes to that, and you just posed that rob against the you know, the hirings of head coaches in general, and more than half of these coaches are offensive coordinators. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: That get opportunities. 00:24:13 Speaker 8: Now, we just saw Aaron Glenn get hired as a Jets coach as a defensive coordinator, right, so you you definitely have another path to become a head coach besides being an offensive coordinator. But when you look at the numbers and you look at the fact that most more coaches than than others get the opportunity as offensive coordinators, the lack of coordinators being hired on the offensive side is really problematic when you think about the long term possibilities of head coaches being hired. And so it's two cycles in a row, twenty nine out of twenty nine. As I mentioned in the article where you know, white. 00:24:57 Speaker 2: Guys have been hired as offensive coordinators. 00:25:00 Speaker 1: Here's one thing I want to say, and I'd stop me if I'm wrong, because if I'm wrong with the numbers, but I'm almost positive in all the years Mike Tomlin has been there, I think he's only hired one black coach to be either offensive or defensive coordinator. 00:25:15 Speaker 4: Is that not true? 00:25:18 Speaker 8: I'd have to double check the number. I mean, his defensive coordinator right now is CHERRYL. 00:25:24 Speaker 2: Austin. I'd have to go back. 00:25:28 Speaker 4: It's an unbelievable It's an unbelievable thing. 00:25:31 Speaker 1: I want you to check that out on the next story because you know that is mind boggling because he's been a coach for a long time, you know what I mean, and he's had a lot of openings. 00:25:40 Speaker 4: But yeah, this is bad. 00:25:41 Speaker 1: Eric b enemy with Kansas City, and let's just be honest. And I know there's a lot of other things some players are missing, but their offense is not the same and hasn't been for the last few years. 00:25:54 Speaker 4: Would you agree with that? 00:25:55 Speaker 8: Yeah, that definitely would would agree with that. And you know when b n me

went to Washington, you know, he left Kansas City. He could have stayed in Kansas City as offensive coordinator, but he tried to, you know, kind of push himself to another level because he was so frustrated that he didn't get a head coach and shot like say a Matt Nagy, who was offensive coordinator as well under Andy Reid, got a shot. And now he's back in that role with the chiefs after the enemy left, and so be enemy goes to Washington, which was a tough situation because Ron Rivera was on thin ice as the head coach, right, but the enemy felt like, hey, let me go and at least see what I can do. They didn't have a quarterback, you know. And the interesting thing was that when he got to Washington, people were saying that he was too hard right, went to Rivera and they started grumbling about the fact that the enemy was, you know, expecting too much of them. And I thought that was really revealing in a positive way for Eric Benemy, even though he only lasted one year job and Bavaria got fired and everybody got cleaned out and he ended up going to the college level. He's back in the NFL now, but not as a coordinator. 00:27:10 Speaker 2: And you know, those. 00:27:13 Speaker 8: Opportunities are so far few between, and you've got to have a lot of things that go right, including having a quarterback and having talent, and you know, for the enemy, it you know, it goes deeper than that, because here was a guy who was passed over so many times as a head coach, and you just always wondered why, and you can still wonder why when you see so many other people get opportunities. So hopefully he'll you know, get a chance to you know, re establish himself and get another shot. But the point of the story was the fact that there are just not a lot of you know, black coaches in the pipeline on the offensive side, in those key offensive positions, in terms of coordinator, in the quarterback room, back coaches, even offensive line coaches. So I think that's where the Fritz Polor the lines for sure, is looking and has talked about it. And you know, these things are interesting too while because you see people get these opportunities as coordinators and their resumes are pretty slight when you talk about where they came from to get that opportunity. And so that's another thing. But you know, if you're looking for a job, rob to see if you can can hook up with Sear McVay. 00:28:36 Speaker 1: All I need to do is have a cup of coffee in a sweet role and they'll hire me because he's off. 00:28:42 Speaker 8: Because a lot of these guys just seem to, you know, And that's no knock on Sean McVay at all, because I think the world of Sear McVay as a coach, but yeah, a lot of his guys have just kind of really been able to fast track to other opportunities. And you look at Kevin O'Connell with the Minnesota Vikings, and I don't think anybody would say that that he was a bad hire for the Vikings, and he came from the Sean McVay tree. So again, I'm not trying to cast a spurson on McVeigh, but I'm just saying that certain people get opportunities that others don't. And so when it comes to you know, black coordinators getting that opportunity and that grooming and that nurturing, that has to still happen on a much broader level. 00:29:26 Speaker 6: Jared Bell, I Guess Hall of Fame writer, USA Today NFL columnist Jared Bell on Twitter. Real quick, we don't have much more time, but I would want to ask you about this. I mean, we're talking about this in an era in which so many of the star quarterbacks in the league are black, and you would in the league that is, you know, around seventy percent black, you would think just simply based off almost like an American census, right, just naturally, or what we have a representation of in the league, you would think there would be more based off as I mentioned, more quarterbacks are black, that they would be like, hey. 00:29:58 Speaker 4: This just makes sense. 00:30:00 Speaker 6: How you feel like you got the di stuff that's happening in the country, happening even in the NFL too. 00:30:05 Speaker 4: What do you think of players? 00:30:07 Speaker 6: How have you had a chance to talk to the players how they feel about this, maybe, like I said, specifically quarterbacks at all. 00:30:13 Speaker 8: Yeah, not specifically since I wrote that story, but it's definitely a thing that has been discussed over, you know, many years, and what I found is that players generally don't get but so involved when it comes to this issue. And that's a bit frustrating because if anybody can have a voice that might have an influence, it would be you know, the quarterback or the coach or one of the key players on a team. And they have just not been as inclined as I think they could be in knowing their power and really kind of pushing for guys. Now, you know, we talked about Eric Banemy a few minutes ago, and I know when he was in the mix for head coaching jobs over multiple years, his players really spoke up for him black and white, Okay, but that still didn't get them a job. But in terms of what's happening on some of these other levels with the coordinators and the quarterbacks, no, I have not seen a big movement on that front. So a great question. I wish I had more depth to that answer, but it is one that has been kind of, you know, in the. 00:31:28 Speaker 2: Mix for quite some time. 00:31:30 Speaker 8: And I just I think with players so often and not necessarily quarterbacks, but players in general. You know, there's such a cycle in the NFL where guys come and go and they leave this team to go to that team and this team. But yeah, I think more concentrated effort to really speak up on behalf of of some of the up and rising coaches would be, you know, would be a good thing. But even without that, I'm still sitting here thinking about different guys, like saying, David Shaw, who's back in the NFL. 00:32:00 Speaker 4: I saw that. Yeah, Yeah, And I'll say this the one that stands out to me.

00:32:05 Speaker 1: I mentioned it earlier in the show when Ray Rhase was the coach of the Green Bay Packers in nineteen ninety nine. And do you remember this, Jared, he had a black offensive end defensive coordinator in Green Bay. Sherman Lewis was the offensive coordinator and Emma Thomas was the defensive coordinator. That was the first time I think it ever happened. It was opening Grand Clothes. That was one year or two. I mean, the only they said. 00:32:29 Speaker 6: Here you go, get on, all right, Jared, thank you so much, Jared Bell. Make sure you go check out his article again USA Today. Appreciate you. Calm, I appreciate you. The Hall of Famer. 00:32:39 Speaker 2: Jared, Thanks, I appreciate you. 00:32:41 Speaker 6: Okay, no product, all right on the way. Uh you got something you need to get off your chest? 00:32:47 Speaker 4: Huh yeah. 00:32:49 Speaker 1: I gotta see if this is too bougie. All right, I'm not that boogie. I'm a regular guy. What did you Mary said? I was gettle you give me ghetto woogie, ghetto fabulous. 00:33:01 Speaker 6: Yeah, get We'll get into that. It is a little shop talk Action Odd Couple. Fox Sports Radio. 00:33:07 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 00:33:19 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. 00:33:20 Speaker 6: The Odd Couple on a TV theme song Thursday, Little Moesha action right here, Brandy and in person. 00:33:31 Speaker 4: I never met never met her for a second. 00:33:34 Speaker 1: I met Brandy at ESPN Nice. She came Monday. What was the what was the she was coming through when we were at first tay or something. But I got to meet her. I have a picture somewhere with her. 00:33:44 Speaker 4: You know, you got your friends with her daughter. So yeah, I'm not anymore. 00:33:49 Speaker 6: But oh yeah, I live a ro by night might be shop talking. 00:33:56 Speaker 4: A whole different a whole different person. Hold on, clarify that that might all right? Another go here we go. Let's right, we are coming to. 00:34:02 Speaker 6: You line from the tire rack dot Com studios. Tire rack dot com is gonna help you get there, And I'm Matt selection fast ree shipping, free ro has protection and over ten thousand recommended in stallars. Tire rack dot Com is the way tied bydes should be. Right now, it's start for shop talk. 00:34:16 Speaker 5: That's right, an abbreviated version of shop talk and saying when we talk about something happening outside of the world of sports. This week, We could have went to the news, could have went to movies, but there was one story that stood out above the rest Rob Parker, as you know, has a lot of quirks about him. This might be the quirkiest thing. 00:34:30 Speaker 4: Okay, let's hear this. Rob. 00:34:32 Speaker 5: Tell us what you did to a pair of sweatpants and let us discuss. 00:34:35 Speaker 1: So I bought a pair of sweatpants and I'm gonna say high end because they cost seventy five dollars. 00:34:41 Speaker 6: I'm just gonna be oh, put all on the tape, so don't get you one minute. It has to be six dollars ninety eight seventy. 00:34:48 Speaker 1: I will admit that I have this thing about trying to find the perfect sweatpants. Like that is a like if I'm to your pair of sweatpants, I'm buying them if I think like that's that's fit. Yes, I'm looking for the So the problem with them? And they're really nice and soft. I love them, you know what I mean, And I thinkness and everything's perfect. But the legs were like bell bottoms. Those are not you can't wear those with sneakers or kicks or whatever. 00:35:14 Speaker 4: It's just that's that's like, what's crazy is that's the new look. 00:35:17 Speaker 1: But that's not for me. I'm not wearing bell bottomed sweatpants. 00:35:21 Speaker 4: That's the look. 00:35:22 Speaker 1: So I took them to the tailor and I had them tailored. I had them what do they call it, tapered? And now my favorite sweatpants. I actually just got rid of a couple of sweatpants. Now these are the ones I had. I think I told you I got uh during my breath during my birthday. So these are these are now my favorite? All right, so you give me thumbs down? Why, Mary Max, I'm not. I feel offended because I'm wearing the little bell bottoms. 00:35:54 Speaker 4: No, but that's for women wear bell bottoms. But I haven't watched. Hey guys walk into the time. You ain't seeing us straight there. I'm not wearing. There is no straight leg. But is that a big deal to get? So here's sweatpants tapered? 00:36:09 Speaker 6: No, here's what it is. Not that it's the biggest of deals. Although sweatpants is kind of crazy talk. The thing that makes it interesting is again, you're the guy who will go nine different places looking for the deal, yet you will spend seventy five dollars on sweatpants taylored them with another thirty bucks twenty five. I knew it thirty bucks, I said, So you spent over one hundred dollars. It's called one hundred bucks on some sweat I don't get you sometimes. 00:36:33 Speaker 4: Also the new sweatpants because I don't know mine. They have I can like scrunch them up like they have the where I can scrunch them up. No, but I know what he's I know the I know what he's saying. All right, Rob, G have you ever had a pair of sweatpants? Tip, that's crazy? Once in my life? That's done. Do you think it's crazy? That's crazy? 00:36:49 Speaker 7: Now? 00:36:49 Speaker 5: I was telling Rob before the show. I know one tailoring story I thought was wild, and this one topped it. Until I was in high school where I had our football pictures that you know, the off season, and I was a fresh men the senior the varsity strength the conditioning coach had on the tightest coaches polo I'd ever seen, like all his muscles are coming out, looks like he was painted on. And our head coach, the freshman coach asked the varsity a coach like, hey, why didn't you just get him an excel like, what. 00:37:14 Speaker 4: Are you doing? 00:37:15 Speaker 5: I did, We got everybody excels and he had it tailored, so make it tighter on. 00:37:19 Speaker 4: His No, no, no, that's that's crazy. 00:37:24 Speaker 6: Didn't rob that's crazy at least, just like I just needed a little taper from my bottom. 00:37:30 Speaker 4: But you know I love sweat pen. 00:37:31 Speaker 6: Yeah, like that's the only reason why it's crazy is because it's sweats. 00:37:38 Speaker 4: If there were even jeans, I will give you sweats. 00:37:40 Speaker 6: Is kind of like come as is like whatever you are is what you are looser because there's a multitude sweat. Sometimes you got the back of your ones, you got the joggers, you got the like I got some joggers on right now. 00:37:50 Speaker 4: You see. I mean what you say? You like this? You like the little taper at the bottom like that, Yeah, not scrunched all the way. 00:37:56 Speaker 6: But I'm like, yeah, the bell bottom kind of lamar at the super. 00:38:00 Speaker 4: Bowl, all tight things are in I know, not for me. 00:38:03 Speaker 6: Yeah, I respect you liking what you like, but I want to feel comfortable. They're like, I've never tailored cotton in my life. They have never tailored cotton like sweats in their life. They're like, I guess I'm doing it right now. 00:38:15 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:38:15 Speaker 6: I've never done this before. That's how you know he got money. 00:38:19 Speaker 4: No, No, I don't. I'm bro