Full Transcript for Ochelli Effect 11-6-2026 Friday Night Open Mic with B Pete

00:03:58.250 Right. 75 00:03:59.129 --> 00:04:02.189 You know, items that will burn and they're compressed really tight. 76 00:04:02.289 --> 00:04:05.189 So it's like a solid fuel where an acorn has 77 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.219 got a lot of hollow spots in it. And, you know, 78 00:04:07.539 --> 00:04:10.479 and it's just a matter of the pulp of an 79 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:13.000 acorn burns different than the outside of the acorn. So 80 00:04:13.020 --> 00:04:15.680 are you really generating enough heat for what you're trying 81 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.379 to do? Well, I'm still looking into it. Well, guarantee 82 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:21.420 that we got the old we got the old standby 83 00:04:21.620 --> 00:04:23.500 oil heater going, you know, when we need to out 84 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:23.980 in the shop. 85 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:26.360 Well, there you have it. And yet it has gotten 86 00:04:26.459 --> 00:04:29.689 cold at night, which is a weird contrast. And, you know, 87 00:04:29.730 --> 00:04:31.750 for people looking from the outside, they don't think it's 88 00:04:31.769 --> 00:04:34.970 that cold because it's really not. But the thing is, 89 00:04:35.029 --> 00:04:37.870 in comparison to the hundred degrees we're used to and 90 00:04:37.889 --> 00:04:40.430 the humidity we're used to, the second that that humidity 91 00:04:40.470 --> 00:04:43.459 goes away and we start getting cold at night. you know, 92 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:45.699 a little bit of frost might show up, it's kind 93 00:04:45.740 --> 00:04:47.660 of more extreme on us because we're so used to 94 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:48.240 it being hot. 95 00:04:49.259 --> 00:04:52.370 Well, it's like in the summer, if I set my, 96 00:04:53.290 --> 00:04:57.589 if I set the AC on 65 and it's pulling 97 00:04:57.610 --> 00:04:59.170 all the moisture out of the air in the house, 98 00:04:59.449 --> 00:05:00.810 it really, it feels cold. 99 00:05:01.189 --> 00:05:01.410 Right. 100 00:05:01.550 --> 00:05:04.389 But yet, two weeks ago when we started getting into 101 00:05:04.410 --> 00:05:06.129 cool weather, I mean, we were getting down to the 102 00:05:06.189 --> 00:05:08.170 high 30s at night a couple nights. Right. You know, 103 00:05:08.189 --> 00:05:10.389 you cut the heat on for the first time. If 104 00:05:10.430 --> 00:05:16.879 you set the heat at 65, It's tolerable. So 65 105 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:19.990 degrees depends on whether it's the AC sucking the moisture 106 00:05:20.089 --> 00:05:24.569 out of the air or the heat, which they say 107 00:05:25.149 --> 00:05:26.610 in a heat pump it's going to pull moisture. If 108 00:05:26.629 --> 00:05:27.970 it's a heat pump, it'll pull moisture out of the 109 00:05:28.029 --> 00:05:30.850 air either way. But it doesn't seem as bad. I 110 00:05:30.889 --> 00:05:34.769 can tolerate 65 with the heat setting. and it feels 111 00:05:34.870 --> 00:05:37.269 just a little bit to the cool side. 112 00:05:37.300 --> 00:05:39.600 I mean, it's pleasant. You're not hot and stuffy. 113 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:40.139 Right. 114 00:05:40.540 --> 00:05:43.459 But 65 with the air conditioner, you're freezing your balls off. 115 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:49.060 Yeah, it gets real cold because, again, no humidity. If 116 00:05:49.139 --> 00:05:51.230 it's efficiently working and pulling it out of the air 117 00:05:51.259 --> 00:05:54.949 like it's supposed to. And that's the thing, is that 118 00:05:54.949 --> 00:05:57.670 65 will seem cold. I used to deal with 10-degree 119 00:05:57.709 --> 00:05:59.870 temperatures and not feel bad about it, but that's because 120 00:05:59.910 --> 00:06:05.670 I was conditioned to the northeast. And that's a whole 121 00:06:05.750 --> 00:06:10.730 other ballgame. You know, humidity is a factor once again 122 00:06:10.769 --> 00:06:13.069 when it's real cold, but it ain't the same factor 123 00:06:13.110 --> 00:06:15.300 as when it's hot. You know what I mean? 124 00:06:15.620 --> 00:06:17.339 I always ask people, you know, would you rather be 125 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:20.600 hot than cold? And it's like, well, in the summertime 126 00:06:20.620 --> 00:06:25.040 around here in the south, you can't always cool off. 127 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:27.519 But in the wintertime, I can put enough clothes on, 128 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:28.079 I'll be warm. 129 00:06:29.069 --> 00:06:31.670 Yeah, see, that's the thing, is that you can always 130 00:06:31.750 --> 00:06:35.490 warm up, but sometimes it's impossible to cool off, you know. 131 00:06:35.810 --> 00:06:38.370 And that's the weird thing. And, of course, then people 132 00:06:38.410 --> 00:06:41.389 in Arizona go, yeah, but it's okay here when it's 100. Yeah, 133 00:06:41.509 --> 00:06:46.100 I know, because there's, like, no humidity, you know. And 134 00:06:46.220 --> 00:06:48.699 it's that old. It used to sound silly to me 135 00:06:48.740 --> 00:06:51.319 as a kid. Well, that's a dry heat. I would 136 00:06:51.339 --> 00:06:54.459 be like, man, heat is heat, you know. But I'm 137 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:58.819 standing in New Jersey thinking heat is heat. You know 138 00:06:58.860 --> 00:07:00.860 what I mean? Like, it don't matter. A hundred degrees 139 00:07:00.920 --> 00:07:01.759 sounds horrible. 140 00:07:01.779 --> 00:07:04.329 Well, even in Jersey, you know, even in Jersey, a 141 00:07:04.370 --> 00:07:06.509 good part of it, you get that humidity coming off 142 00:07:06.550 --> 00:07:07.029 the coast. 143 00:07:07.750 --> 00:07:07.970 Right. 144 00:07:08.129 --> 00:07:11.350 And I mean, you know, people complain, oh, well, you know, 145 00:07:11.730 --> 00:07:13.980 up north, the heat is different. Well, not no. 146 00:07:14.540 --> 00:07:16.540 A lot of places is the same as down here. 147 00:07:16.620 --> 00:07:18.339 Human as hell and odd. Oh, yeah. 148 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:20.339 No, we get having a wet blanket thrown on you. 149 00:07:20.379 --> 00:07:23.079 You got it. Muggy days. It's

like you're swimming when 150 00:07:23.100 --> 00:07:26.329 you take a walk outside. Right. And that's coming off 151 00:07:26.389 --> 00:07:28.209 of the ocean. See, that's the other thing is that 152 00:07:28.290 --> 00:07:31.870 living by the ocean, it did cut down on the 153 00:07:31.930 --> 00:07:34.649 snow and stuff like that. Snow and ice didn't form 154 00:07:34.709 --> 00:07:38.180 as easily. You know, which is because everything is doused 155 00:07:38.220 --> 00:07:41.980 in freaking salt water. So, you know, as odd as 156 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:44.379 it sounds, it's got a different, you know, freezing point. 157 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:46.259 So you don't get the same ice that you do 158 00:07:46.300 --> 00:07:48.279 a little further inland. You don't get the same amount 159 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:52.860 of snow that you do further inland. You get greater precipitation. 160 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:55.680 But what sticks is different. You know what I mean? 161 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.600 Most of that ends up in slushy conditions along the 162 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.240 shore when everybody else is freezing into sheets of ice. 163 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.230 Yeah, I mean, that's when we get our worst snows 164 00:08:04.269 --> 00:08:07.350 down here is when you get a nor'easter that forms 165 00:08:07.430 --> 00:08:09.550 off the coast and you get that blast of cold 166 00:08:09.610 --> 00:08:13.399 air and precipitation coming from Texas through Louisiana and then 167 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.079 right up the coast. And, you know, we'll get a 168 00:08:16.100 --> 00:08:18.550 foot of snow in a matter of hours. 169 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:21.839 When it's coming off the, off the sea like that. 170 00:08:21.860 --> 00:08:24.000 I mean, you know, it's just funny, you know, how 171 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:26.879 little changes in just a few miles make a big difference. 172 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:27.259 Yeah. 173 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:29.839 But it doesn't stay around on the Jersey shore because 174 00:08:29.980 --> 00:08:33.720 everything is pretreated with salt. That's not the deal. Everything 175 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.659 is salted, which causes, you know, your metal to rust 176 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:38.399 and everything up there a whole lot faster. 177 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:42.039 Yeah. You know, it's funny. When I was over in Switzerland, um, 178 00:08:42.460 --> 00:08:46.320 one winter, um, It snowed every day for about 20 days, 179 00:08:47.139 --> 00:08:51.860 but it was that real light, dry snow, and the 180 00:08:52.039 --> 00:08:55.330 air was dry enough that it would evaporate overnight. So 181 00:08:55.379 --> 00:08:58.769 you'd get three inches, four inches of snow, and half 182 00:08:58.830 --> 00:09:00.649 of it would evaporate. Then the very next day, you'd 183 00:09:00.690 --> 00:09:02.809 get another two, three inches of snow, and then half 184 00:09:02.830 --> 00:09:05.929 of that would evaporate. So we kept

about... I don't know, 185 00:09:06.309 --> 00:09:08.690 six to eight inches of snow on the ground for 186 00:09:08.730 --> 00:09:11.990 a whole month period, and it snowed every day. In fact, 187 00:09:12.490 --> 00:09:16.779 the country of Switzerland almost ran out of salt, which 188 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:18.379 has never happened before. 189 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.879 Right, right. See, in New Jersey, the same kind of 190 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:25.820 thing would prevail where if it was extreme cold, then 191 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:29.129 it would stack up. You'd have, yeah, a week where 192 00:09:29.169 --> 00:09:32.009 there's a couple inches of snow each day, but by 193 00:09:32.049 --> 00:09:33.750 the end of the week, you've got snow banks that 194 00:09:33.789 --> 00:09:36.629 are six feet high. Because people have piled it up 195 00:09:36.850 --> 00:09:39.240 and you got stuff that's three foot high that freezes 196 00:09:39.340 --> 00:09:41.860 on the overnight and then stacks more snow on top 197 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.500 of it and free, you know, melts a little and 198 00:09:43.539 --> 00:09:48.379 freezes again and continues to accumulate, you know, in places 199 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:52.679 where people haven't shoveled out, haven't scraped it out, haven't plowed. And, 200 00:09:52.950 --> 00:09:54.710 you know, like I said, you end up with six, eight, 201 00:09:54.710 --> 00:09:58.620 10 foot high snowdrifts that are sometimes like frozen walls, 202 00:09:59.220 --> 00:10:00.559 you know, for a little while. 203 00:10:00.580 --> 00:10:02.799 I'm doing a quick search right now. I haven't even looked. 204 00:10:02.940 --> 00:10:04.679 Usually I used to always get a copy of the 205 00:10:04.730 --> 00:10:08.429 farmer's almanac every year and stop that years ago. But 206 00:10:08.690 --> 00:10:11.470 I'm going to see if they're predicting a winter, the matches, 207 00:10:11.490 --> 00:10:13.190 the acorn harvest. 208 00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:14.289 Right. 209 00:10:15.190 --> 00:10:17.049 I wonder if they still print that thing, because, I mean, 210 00:10:17.090 --> 00:10:19.909 most people probably go online and go get it, you know, 211 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:21.049 as they need it. 212 00:10:21.179 --> 00:10:24.070 But I believe they do still print it. 213 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:26.600 That would be one of those things that they still 214 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:30.120 faithfully reproduce. But guarantee you it don't sell as many 215 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:32.899 copies as it used to. But maybe it just still exists, 216 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:39.100 you know. But Farmer's Almanacs are helpful always. uh they 217 00:10:39.169 --> 00:10:40.940 you know they're always very very helpful i mean they're 218 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:43.840 not always a hundred percent accurate but they don't miss 219 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:44.759 by too much. 220 00:10:44.659 --> 00:10:47.019 Usually yeah it's very seldom is their. 221 00:10:46.899 --> 00:10:49.899 Way off yeah even when you know there are market 222 00:10:49.940 --> 00:10:53.259 changes and you hear you know your your electronic conveyances 223 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.779 telling you that the weatherman couldn't predict this or couldn't 224 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:58.100 predict that tell you the truth if you look at 225 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.519 the farmer farmer's almanac they might be off by a 226 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:04.710 day or two or this or that but Quite honestly, 227 00:11:04.789 --> 00:11:07.129 what they say the conditions will end up being is 228 00:11:07.190 --> 00:11:08.370 what you end up enduring. 229 00:11:08.389 --> 00:11:12.570 Let's see what they say here. The old farmer's almanac, 230 00:11:12.610 --> 00:11:16.169 winter 2026 to 2027 for North Carolina. 231 00:11:17.230 --> 00:11:18.590 And, of course, it splits the state. 232 00:11:18.809 --> 00:11:22.769 In the west of the state, below normal temps, above 233 00:11:22.830 --> 00:11:26.629 normal snowfall, mid-January as well as early and late February. 234 00:11:27.029 --> 00:11:31.500 And they're saying first snowfall is expected earlier, late November. 235 00:11:32.139 --> 00:11:37.379 For the southeast region, which is us. Above normal temps, 236 00:11:38.659 --> 00:11:42.429 near normal snowfall, above normal precipitation in the north and 237 00:11:42.470 --> 00:11:48.250 below normal in the south. Snowiest periods, early January, late February. 238 00:11:48.809 --> 00:11:52.409 That's standard for us. Most likely December or January for 239 00:11:52.429 --> 00:11:56.559 our first snowfall. We usually get one snowfall. We may 240 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.779 get some snow smatterings here and there. But for snowfall, 241 00:12:00.820 --> 00:12:03.340 we usually get one. It's usually, you know, three inches 242 00:12:03.419 --> 00:12:04.779 or something. It's gone by the next day. 243 00:12:05.100 --> 00:12:05.340 Right. 244 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.250 Not much to it. So according to this, above normal temps, 245 00:12:10.149 --> 00:12:13.889 my trees are producing acorns that would reflect the opposite temperature. 246 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:15.440 Right now. 247 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:18.860 But, yeah, I mean, they're dumping, man. I can go 248 00:12:18.899 --> 00:12:21.799 out there and get you a one-by-one. I can get 249 00:12:21.820 --> 00:12:25.379 you a cubic foot of acorns in about two shovel scoops. 250 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:28.269 Oh, well, that means you got them, like, piled up. 251 00:12:28.309 --> 00:12:30.230 You got a couple inches deep of acorns in a 252 00:12:30.250 --> 00:12:31.269 lot of spots then, don't you? 253 00:12:32.029 --> 00:12:32.929 Mm-hmm. 254 00:12:33.210 --> 00:12:33.429 Yep. 255 00:12:33.710 --> 00:12:34.029 Okay. 256 00:12:34.149 --> 00:12:35.990 And trying to get them up is like trying to, 257 00:12:36.389 --> 00:12:37.529 you know, rake up marbles. 258 00:12:37.990 --> 00:12:40.230 Yeah, right,

because they're all rolling out of the shovel 259 00:12:40.269 --> 00:12:42.549 or whatever. I mean, you need one of those gripping 260 00:12:42.610 --> 00:12:45.529 shovels that has, like, the scissor thing on them. 261 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.159 No, I'm going to try a new method. 262 00:12:48.179 --> 00:12:49.679 I'm going to get out there with my garden sprayer 263 00:12:49.700 --> 00:12:52.039 and just put a fine mist of gasoline on everything 264 00:12:52.100 --> 00:12:53.820 and strike a match and just burn them off. 265 00:12:55.740 --> 00:12:58.080 Okay. Well, I guess you'll find out quickly if they 266 00:12:58.100 --> 00:12:58.899 continue to burn. 267 00:13:00.070 --> 00:13:01.570 Yeah, I mean, all I got to do is stand 268 00:13:01.610 --> 00:13:03.110 at the end of the yard with a water hose 269 00:13:03.169 --> 00:13:04.889 and cut them off before they hit the fence and 270 00:13:04.909 --> 00:13:07.710 the neighbor gets pissed off. But, yeah, I'm trying to 271 00:13:07.950 --> 00:13:10.860 figure out some new, you know, effort-saving methods. 272 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:15.919 I wonder what that produces, though, when you burn acorns. 273 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:19.120 I don't know. 274 00:13:19.179 --> 00:13:22.500 Probably like burning, I don't know, like burning a pine cone. 275 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.940 Well, yeah, but burning pine cones, you get a fairly 276 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:30.389 distinctive smell. when some of the pine cones have, like, 277 00:13:30.409 --> 00:13:33.350 you know, a bit of juice left in them, like 278 00:13:33.370 --> 00:13:35.980 they're not entirely dry? You know what I'm saying? 279 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:36.240 I don't know. 280 00:13:36.259 --> 00:13:39.879 Maybe it smells like oak, like freshly hewn oak wood. 281 00:13:40.139 --> 00:13:42.899 Could be. Who knows? I'm going to try. 282 00:13:42.700 --> 00:13:45.529 It and see. Because what I've got to do is 283 00:13:45.570 --> 00:13:48.700 make me a small burner. Um, I thought about using 284 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:51.100 my charcoal, you know, those charcoal starters, the ones that 285 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.250 are like a can with a handle on them and 286 00:13:53.259 --> 00:13:54.950 you get your charcoal on, get it going in there 287 00:13:55.029 --> 00:13:56.610 and then you dump it in your grill. I thought 288 00:13:56.629 --> 00:14:00.730 about taking one of those, putting acorns in it and 289 00:14:00.809 --> 00:14:05.830 putting a small piece of, um, uh, fireplace starter, one 290 00:14:05.850 --> 00:14:08.100 of those little blocks, just cut a chunk off it, 291 00:14:08.620 --> 00:14:10.980 light it, drop it in there and see how they burn. 292 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:12.700 And then I could figure out if it'll work in 293 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:16.960 a bar, you know, That's. 294 00:14:15.659 --> 00:14:18.139 Why I kind of used to like those Duraflame logs, 295 00:14:18.179 --> 00:14:22.039 you know, because you get that and you light it 296 00:14:22.179 --> 00:14:24.789 up and yeah, it burns right away, but it also 297 00:14:24.850 --> 00:14:27.470 burns for a while, which gives you time to put 298 00:14:27.509 --> 00:14:29.629 plenty of stuff around it to get it rolling, you know? 299 00:14:30.929 --> 00:14:34.100 Yeah. I just go out and find an old, old 300 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:37.809 pine stump somewhere out in the woods and and dig 301 00:14:37.870 --> 00:14:39.450 it up to where you can get to the lower 302 00:14:39.590 --> 00:14:41.590 end of it, cut you a good chunk of that off. 303 00:14:41.649 --> 00:14:44.970 And it's just fatwood. It's just pure pine resin. You know, 304 00:14:45.029 --> 00:14:48.490 I mean, it will burn. It'll burn like sterno. 305 00:14:49.350 --> 00:14:54.610 Right, especially if it's dried out just right. But, yeah, 306 00:14:54.889 --> 00:14:59.320 I mean. Anyways, so all that going on, the Farmer's 307 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:02.899 Almanac informs us. But do remember that Florida and Georgia, 308 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:06.149 a little bit of Alabama for sure, is in a 309 00:15:06.289 --> 00:15:10.789 slightly different temperate zone from you. And that doesn't prevail 310 00:15:10.850 --> 00:15:15.889 when you go along the line of latitude. You know 311 00:15:15.909 --> 00:15:19.529 what I mean? The temperate zone sort of reaches up 312 00:15:19.710 --> 00:15:22.629 and encompasses Florida into the same area that ends up 313 00:15:22.649 --> 00:15:26.970 taking the Caribbean and stuff. So you have tropical versus 314 00:15:27.029 --> 00:15:31.610 subtropical right there on the borders. You know, for conditions. 315 00:15:32.269 --> 00:15:35.159 So the fact that there's a slightly different heat condition 316 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:38.559 to the like the fully the most southern and most 317 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:44.019 eastern part of the U.S. map, it's a little different 318 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:45.789 right there at the bottom. You know what I mean? 319 00:15:45.850 --> 00:15:48.809 Right there. We're like I say, Florida, Georgia, most of Georgia. 320 00:15:48.830 --> 00:15:50.330 I don't even think all of Georgia is in it, 321 00:15:51.129 --> 00:15:53.929 but most of Georgia is in it. Uh, like I said, 322 00:15:53.990 --> 00:15:56.110 part of Alabama, I can't remember how much of it, 323 00:15:56.610 --> 00:15:59.090 but not even the whole state of Alabama is sort 324 00:15:59.110 --> 00:16:02.149 of encompassed in this, uh, temperate zone, if you will, 325 00:16:02.669 --> 00:16:08.809 which does change what you should plant and everything timing wise. Um, but, uh, that, that, 326 00:16:08.850 --> 00:16:10.230 that was a hard lesson. I had to learn a 327 00:16:10.250 --> 00:16:13.210 few times, uh, with, you know, like, why are my 328 00:16:13.250 --> 00:16:16.200 plants not thriving already? What did I do this too early, 329 00:16:16.250 --> 00:16:19.419 too late, whatever. And indeed I did because I wasn't 330 00:16:19.440

--> 00:16:20.159 accounting for that. 331 00:16:21.250 --> 00:16:23.629 Yeah, and another thing, too, I hope we do have 332 00:16:23.649 --> 00:16:25.350 higher than normal precipitation. 333 00:16:25.950 --> 00:16:28.529 I just don't want ice. You know, I don't mind snow. 334 00:16:28.590 --> 00:16:29.580 It's the ice that kills us. 335 00:16:29.610 --> 00:16:33.279 But we're still, we're like 10.2 inches down from rain 336 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:33.899 for the year. 337 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:35.559 We've been in a. 338 00:16:35.620 --> 00:16:39.720 Moderate to extreme drought the whole year. So it's a 339 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:41.279 little tough on the farmers around here. 340 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:46.340 Right. I mean, we are experiencing drought-like conditions. And like 341 00:16:46.379 --> 00:16:48.840 you said, that's been that way for probably a year 342 00:16:48.860 --> 00:16:49.620 and a half, right? 343 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:54.899 We came out of it late last year. We were 344 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:58.570 starting to get some good rain in the fall. Unfortunately, 345 00:16:58.590 --> 00:17:00.570 we started getting a lot of rain right before harvest time, 346 00:17:00.590 --> 00:17:02.190 so getting in and out of the field caused a 347 00:17:02.190 --> 00:17:02.850 lot of problems. 348 00:17:02.950 --> 00:17:03.710 But this year. 349 00:17:04.569 --> 00:17:07.130 It's been consistently down from the start of the year, 350 00:17:07.190 --> 00:17:12.240 and farmers have really caught hell in this area this year. 351 00:17:12.259 --> 00:17:14.619 Yeah, because it was a very– Corn didn't. 352 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:16.839 Do near as good. Tobacco didn't do near as good. 353 00:17:16.980 --> 00:17:20.599 Cotton– I mean, everything is bone dry. When you're almost 354 00:17:20.640 --> 00:17:23.420 a foot down of rain over the year, it takes 355 00:17:23.460 --> 00:17:24.839 a heavy toll. Yeah. 356 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:29.960 And corn is down anyway, as far as production levels, because, 357 00:17:30.099 --> 00:17:32.680 you know, you know that because it's like 69 cents 358 00:17:32.819 --> 00:17:37.430 a year or 70 cents, 75 cents a year instead of, 359 00:17:37.509 --> 00:17:41.490 you know, three, five for a dollar. Which means, you know, 360 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:43.049 quantities are lower. 361 00:17:43.069 --> 00:17:46.059 Well, you can thank your gas-a-haul subsidies for that. 362 00:17:46.470 --> 00:17:47.019 Well, of course. 363 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:50.799 That's something I've never understood. They took the one commodity 364 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:56.160 that probably feeds more people worldwide and started coming up 365 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.569 with these boutique gasoline mixes that are actually bad for 366 00:17:59.609 --> 00:18:03.309 your engine and forced them on people. Now, some of 367 00:18:03.349 --> 00:18:06.539 that got rolled back with This past year with Trump 368 00:18:06.579 --> 00:18:10.420 and all,

I know they rolled back efficiency standards on 369 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:11.549 vehicles and things like that. 370 00:18:11.630 --> 00:18:14.049 But when you take the number one commodity. 371 00:18:15.109 --> 00:18:17.109 And you start throwing it all towards gasohol. 372 00:18:17.130 --> 00:18:19.269 Of course, prices are going to go up. That hurts everybody. 373 00:18:19.609 --> 00:18:19.849 Right. 374 00:18:20.289 --> 00:18:22.839 I just I've never understood that method that the government 375 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:25.200 wants to get in and play with with agriculture to 376 00:18:25.220 --> 00:18:27.180 the point that they ruin it for every damn buddy 377 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:28.779 else worldwide. 378 00:18:28.980 --> 00:18:31.619 Yeah, because they forced it into the gas supply. And 379 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:33.720 like I told you, I was still in that industry. 380 00:18:33.859 --> 00:18:37.769 And Obama was in office when that happened. But they 381 00:18:37.809 --> 00:18:41.509 forced it, you know, a high percentage into the gas supply. 382 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:46.440 Yeah, they're trying to run, you know, right here, what, 383 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:53.380 beginning of this administration, they were pushing for, what is it, E15? 384 00:18:53.380 --> 00:18:55.680 15% alcohol in your gas? 385 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:56.160 Right. 386 00:18:56.339 --> 00:18:58.039 It just makes no damn sense. 387 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.480 No, it doesn't. I mean, because it's not even necessary, 388 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.630 first of all. No. But, I mean, I understood kind 389 00:19:06.670 --> 00:19:08.910 of why they did it at the time. The justification 390 00:19:08.950 --> 00:19:12.170 seemed right. But to continue it like they have. Plus, 391 00:19:12.329 --> 00:19:16.769 it is just straight up destructive. There was people, you know, 392 00:19:16.829 --> 00:19:18.779 not using the marine mix, trying to go to the 393 00:19:18.819 --> 00:19:21.240 gas stations, you know, because the marine mix was costing 394 00:19:21.259 --> 00:19:25.160 them more. You know, so they were filling up their boats. Literally, 395 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:27.019 they were bringing them on trailers and filling up their 396 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:30.390 boats at gas stations, right? And that was kind of 397 00:19:30.450 --> 00:19:32.430 a good idea to save money, but not in the 398 00:19:32.470 --> 00:19:35.109 long run, because their damn tanks would end up with 399 00:19:35.130 --> 00:19:40.640 holes in them. And I'm talking, this was like 2006, 2007. Uh, and, 400 00:19:40.799 --> 00:19:43.089 and it was like, you know, I'm looking at him going, yeah. OK, 401 00:19:43.109 --> 00:19:46.559 you think you're saving money because, you know, you're putting 402 00:19:46.619 --> 00:19:49.000 in one hundred fifty dollars worth here instead of putting in, 403 00:19:49.019 --> 00:19:52.319 you know, two hundred fifty dollars worth at the dock 404 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:55.539 or whatever. But in the long run, you're going to 405 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:58.579 wind up having to replace that tank. You know, different 406 00:19:58.660 --> 00:20:00.660 seals are going to rot on you now because of 407 00:20:00.700 --> 00:20:04.009 the alcohol in the in the gasoline. It's just the 408 00:20:04.069 --> 00:20:04.460 way it is. 409 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:06.519 Yeah, I've just never understood it. 410 00:20:06.539 --> 00:20:08.519 All the studies show that, you know, gas haul over 411 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.420 time just destroys a gasoline engine. 412 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:14.079 I just don't understand. 413 00:20:14.099 --> 00:20:16.559 Not only that, you look at what you spend in 414 00:20:16.660 --> 00:20:24.490 gas to produce gas haul. I don't understand. 415 00:20:24.509 --> 00:20:28.049 Oh, well, you know, the cost. Screw the cost. 416 00:20:28.309 --> 00:20:30.390 It's so bad now that a lot of guys that 417 00:20:30.450 --> 00:20:36.119 have older cars, muscle cars that ran on regular gasoline before, uh, 418 00:20:37.430 --> 00:20:40.339 even before unleaded. The thing now is to go find 419 00:20:40.380 --> 00:20:42.000 a hundred and octane gas. 420 00:20:42.299 --> 00:20:42.539 Yep. 421 00:20:42.819 --> 00:20:47.059 There's probably five places around here within a 20 minute 422 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:51.380 drive that sell it. Um, it's, it's no gas a haul. 423 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:55.000 It's just straight gasoline, a hundred octane. That's what they're 424 00:20:55.019 --> 00:20:57.089 having to run their older cars off of to keep them, 425 00:20:57.369 --> 00:20:58.109 you know, operate. 426 00:20:58.509 --> 00:21:00.529 Right. And don't they still have to put that lead 427 00:21:00.589 --> 00:21:01.690 substitute in there too? 428 00:21:02.609 --> 00:21:05.450 Yeah, they still have to have the lead, but it 429 00:21:05.490 --> 00:21:07.109 doesn't have the crap. 430 00:21:07.210 --> 00:21:08.250 And that's another thing. 431 00:21:08.309 --> 00:21:10.390 All you guys out there doing yard work and stuff 432 00:21:10.410 --> 00:21:13.150 like that, you want to keep your appliances running, your 433 00:21:13.190 --> 00:21:16.799 machines running, weed eaters and things like that, buy a 434 00:21:16.859 --> 00:21:21.900 higher grade of gas. Regular 89 or 87, whatever it is, 435 00:21:22.460 --> 00:21:26.740 gasoline is crap on your engines, either by mid-grade or 436 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.119 high test. You get less of the crap in your gas, 437 00:21:29.299 --> 00:21:29.920 less gas a haul. 438 00:21:31.670 --> 00:21:35.500 Yeah, 87 point whatever is the standard for what they 439 00:21:35.539 --> 00:21:40.240 call regular gas around there. There are variations. And quite honestly, 440 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:42.359 there's a couple of companies that always give you a 441 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:47.220 higher octane than what they advertise, which is generally things 442 00:21:47.240 -->

00:21:50.789 that are linked to Exxon and Shell. Those are your two, 443 00:21:50.900 --> 00:21:55.230 you know, because those two chemical companies formulate their gasoline 444 00:21:55.470 --> 00:21:58.339 a little differently, right? And that's the other thing is 445 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:02.119 it's not just the ethanol and the quality of the gasoline, 446 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:06.200 but also the chemical additives, which is why the fuel 447 00:22:06.269 --> 00:22:09.789 companies are not objecting because most of them are also ready. 448 00:22:09.970 --> 00:22:16.750 You know, chemical companies, they manufacture the chemicals, too. So 449 00:22:16.910 --> 00:22:19.589 double benefit. They get to, you know, source the gas 450 00:22:19.990 --> 00:22:23.450 from the oil, but they also get to customize their 451 00:22:23.470 --> 00:22:27.650 gasoline if they like. And there are federal standards, by 452 00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:29.470 the way, that they force upon you. I mean, it's 453 00:22:29.509 --> 00:22:32.509 not like I can go, OK, I'm going to start 454 00:22:32.589 --> 00:22:34.970 Chuck's Gas Company and we're just going to formulate it 455 00:22:35.009 --> 00:22:38.410 without the ethanol or anything. They force upon you a 456 00:22:38.450 --> 00:22:44.220 certain percentage that legally it has to be. And, you know, 457 00:22:44.259 --> 00:22:46.460 you don't want to violate that because you violate that. 458 00:22:46.500 --> 00:22:50.410 That's an extreme fine. um and uh and they can 459 00:22:50.430 --> 00:22:52.289 put you right on out of business no matter what 460 00:22:52.329 --> 00:22:54.329 size company you are unless you're you know one of 461 00:22:54.369 --> 00:22:58.230 these multi uh you know leveled conglomerates that's you know 462 00:22:58.349 --> 00:23:01.470 international and beyond belief in size and scale and scope 463 00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:06.299 but nonetheless the real beneficiaries here are the companies that 464 00:23:06.559 --> 00:23:10.480 also have primary interests in chemicals uh and they make 465 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:12.859 all kinds of stuff not just related to gasoline they 466 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:16.220 make pesticides and everything else uh they're still nowhere near 467 00:23:16.259 --> 00:23:19.869 as big as monsanto but For their concerns are getting 468 00:23:19.910 --> 00:23:23.710 double paid between the chemicals that are required, you know, 469 00:23:23.769 --> 00:23:27.589 which they also sell to everything else. Even if, you know, 470 00:23:27.630 --> 00:23:30.910 say for a little while there, I think what 7-Eleven 471 00:23:30.950 --> 00:23:34.890 kind of had their own gasoline for a minute. But 472 00:23:34.970 --> 00:23:38.349 they couldn't keep up with all the requirements without going 473 00:23:38.390 --> 00:23:43.019 and buying these proprietary mixtures of chemicals from places like 474 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:46.640 Exxon or whatever. And it became just more sensible business 475 00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:49.230 wise to just buy it from them. As opposed to 476 00:23:49.269 --> 00:23:51.750 buying their own chemicals and assembling it. 477 00:23:51.829 --> 00:23:54.210 And things have changed so much since then, too. You know, 478 00:23:54.250 --> 00:24:00.630 back during, let's see, I was probably third grade of school, 479 00:24:00.670 --> 00:24:03.650 maybe second, third grade of school. Anyway, my dad at that, 480 00:24:03.690 --> 00:24:05.269 we were living in Colorado. And at that time, my 481 00:24:05.289 --> 00:24:08.730 dad owned a golf gas station. And we were right 482 00:24:08.750 --> 00:24:11.369 up the road from Fort Carson there in Colorado Springs. 483 00:24:11.450 --> 00:24:13.750 So he did a lot of work with guys at 484 00:24:13.849 --> 00:24:16.579 night and on weekends, setting their carburetors and things like 485 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:19.400 that for them to go to the drag strip. That 486 00:24:19.420 --> 00:24:23.390 was pretty popular back then. And it was funny. One 487 00:24:23.430 --> 00:24:25.910 day I was there. My job was to mow the grass. 488 00:24:25.930 --> 00:24:27.450 I had to mow all the grass, do all the 489 00:24:27.490 --> 00:24:30.509 trimming around the station. So I'm there one day when. 490 00:24:30.430 --> 00:24:31.250 He gets a delivery. 491 00:24:31.349 --> 00:24:36.660 And back then, they would bring you just straight gasoline, 492 00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:40.079 regular gasoline, put it in the tanks. The only difference 493 00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:44.799 was when he's filling the tank for the mid-grade, he 494 00:24:44.859 --> 00:24:47.599 bought octane boost and poured. 495 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:48.049 It in the tank. 496 00:24:48.619 --> 00:24:50.460 And when he got to the high test, he put 497 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:53.140 in a different octane boost. So basically, it was the 498 00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:55.650 same gas off all three grades. It was just a 499 00:24:55.670 --> 00:24:58.809 matter of an octane enhancement that was, you know, a 500 00:24:58.950 --> 00:25:02.349 small jar of something that he would add when he 501 00:25:02.369 --> 00:25:04.930 did his delivery. So it's not like that now, you know, 502 00:25:04.990 --> 00:25:09.309 with California and their boutique blends that they're required. I mean, 503 00:25:09.329 --> 00:25:11.589 this stuff is having to come out of the refineries 504 00:25:12.369 --> 00:25:13.190 in that condition. 505 00:25:13.869 --> 00:25:16.509 You know, that's one reason gas was so cheap years. 506 00:25:16.309 --> 00:25:18.869 And years ago. There wasn't a lot of difference between 507 00:25:18.930 --> 00:25:21.990 grades except for the amount of octane or the amount 508 00:25:22.029 --> 00:25:23.750 of lead that was in there to cut down on 509 00:25:23.789 --> 00:25:27.410 the valve knocking, you know, the ping. So remember those 510 00:25:27.470 --> 00:25:29.289 old commercials with golf, the ping? 511 00:25:30.269 -->

00:25:30.549 Yeah. 512 00:25:30.589 --> 00:25:32.009 Talk about your engine pinging. 513 00:25:32.630 --> 00:25:36.039 You know, they just mess around with the lead content, 514 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:38.000 a little more octane, and that went away all of 515 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:41.940 a sudden because it was, you know, burning hotter. But 516 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:46.650 it's changed now. The industry, the chemicals industry, look at Bayer. 517 00:25:47.910 --> 00:25:52.650 For how many decades did people associate Bayer with aspirin? 518 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:59.500 Bayer is one of the largest agricultural chemical companies out there. 519 00:26:01.380 --> 00:26:03.789 I'm doing a test in my backyard right now where 520 00:26:03.829 --> 00:26:07.190 I've got their number one product on brush ever. being 521 00:26:07.230 --> 00:26:10.839 sprayed in one section, and my neighbor, who's got another 522 00:26:10.910 --> 00:26:15.579 brand of stuff, may buy another. Oh, man, Monsanto, it's 523 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:19.119 another big ag chemical company, and I'm spraying part of 524 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.059 his somewhere, and we're trying to figure out which works 525 00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:25.720 best on what. Because we have this habit of briars 526 00:26:25.779 --> 00:26:27.920 and stuff growing up and consuming a fence in a 527 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:28.700 matter of a month. 528 00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:33.250 Right, but Monsanto consumed a lot of the other chemical companies, 529 00:26:33.289 --> 00:26:36.759 didn't necessarily change their brand names. but consumed them and 530 00:26:36.819 --> 00:26:40.259 actually own them. Then they were, they were bought out 531 00:26:40.299 --> 00:26:43.640 by bear and no bear. People don't realize it's way 532 00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.299 beyond the, you know, plain aspirin for sure. I mean, 533 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.309 these are the people who developed heroin, by the way, 534 00:26:49.450 --> 00:26:53.130 in order to get people off of morphine. It was 535 00:26:53.410 --> 00:26:57.150 like a substitute for morphine addiction was heroin. 536 00:26:57.210 --> 00:27:02.519 Wasn't it a, wasn't it a Sandoz lab that they 537 00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:03.680 invented LSD and. 538 00:27:05.289 --> 00:27:09.539 Well, the invention of LSD is kind of controversial because 539 00:27:09.579 --> 00:27:13.559 there are different claims to it. And there were different 540 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.109 combinations of it that were created. But the good government stuff, yeah, 541 00:27:17.630 --> 00:27:19.329 that's where it came from, is a lab like that. 542 00:27:20.150 --> 00:27:22.690 But believe it or not, there were independent people that 543 00:27:22.769 --> 00:27:25.039 had developed LSD around the same time. 544 00:27:26.019 --> 00:27:29.059 Oh, yeah. I'm just thinking that the guy that got 545 00:27:29.099 --> 00:27:30.440 famous for it, I think he was working in the 546 00:27:30.500 --> 00:27:31.720 Sandoz lab. Yes. 547 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:33.170 Yes. That's that guy. 548 00:27:33.390 --> 00:27:33.569 Yeah. 549 00:27:33.630 --> 00:27:35.950 I mean, people don't understand, you know, what these chemical 550 00:27:36.029 --> 00:27:39.549 companies make. I mean, they make everything from herbicides to 551 00:27:39.589 --> 00:27:46.279 pesticides to medicines to chemicals. Liquid grease, you know, chemicals 552 00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.740 that you inject into a system to make either the 553 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.480 fuel or the substance that you want to move through 554 00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.700 the system move through faster and less friction. 555 00:27:54.980 --> 00:27:57.549 You know, chemicals are in everything right now. 556 00:27:58.269 --> 00:28:01.369 And if we outlawed chemical companies, you'd be surprised how 557 00:28:01.390 --> 00:28:04.130 many products suddenly people would be screaming, well, why can't 558 00:28:04.150 --> 00:28:04.769 we have it? 559 00:28:05.230 --> 00:28:07.630 Yeah, well, there's that. But, I mean, it doesn't mean 560 00:28:07.670 --> 00:28:11.569 they should be absolutely, you know, acting without oversight, which 561 00:28:11.650 --> 00:28:12.799 most of the times they do. 562 00:28:12.890 --> 00:28:15.019 Well, no, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying people 563 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:20.099 don't understand how far chemical companies, you know, influence their existence. 564 00:28:20.380 --> 00:28:23.599 Oh, I know. Listen, you couldn't, you know, all your 565 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.519 microwave packaging, that crap is all developed by, you know, 566 00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:29.400 the same people if you trace it back. It goes 567 00:28:29.460 --> 00:28:32.680 back to Bayer Aspirin also. You know, all the, you know, 568 00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:36.609 the packaging that's microwave ready. That crap is a chemical 569 00:28:36.650 --> 00:28:39.930 developed by the same people that are now owned by 570 00:28:39.970 --> 00:28:43.869 Bayer Aspirin. Bayer Aspirin makes everything from baby aspirin, again, 571 00:28:44.349 --> 00:28:51.599 to pesticides, to various opiate substitutes. They're responsible for different formulations, again, 572 00:28:51.660 --> 00:28:55.720 of other opiate substitutes like bupernex and stuff like that, 573 00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.440 which later on replaced methadone because then they found out, oh, 574 00:28:59.460 --> 00:29:03.089 you can get addicted to methadone, too. You know, it's 575 00:29:03.130 --> 00:29:05.930 just on and on and on. And of course, the 576 00:29:06.009 --> 00:29:08.440 research for methadone was funded by the Rockefellers. 577 00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:14.279 So, you know, just quickly, someone says in the room 578 00:29:14.380 --> 00:29:16.299 says that your roundtable is not playing. 579 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.160 It's coming and going with this short attention. 580 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:22.339 Yeah, it did, because it was

down and I was 581 00:29:22.380 --> 00:29:24.779 trying to fix that. It should be live right now 582 00:29:24.819 --> 00:29:27.849 as I'm speaking. But it did go down on the 583 00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:32.160 live encoder for some reason. And I had to restart it. So, Faze, 584 00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:34.829 let us know that you're now hearing the live show again. 585 00:29:34.829 --> 00:29:38.880 We're talking about uh bear aspirin and chemical companies and 586 00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:43.000 uh we're live here on the 6th of november according 587 00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:44.900 to what i see now it's working okay but a 588 00:29:44.940 --> 00:29:47.720 little bit there when we were talking about gasoline and 589 00:29:47.740 --> 00:29:51.359 everything it went down yes and and it got stuck 590 00:29:51.420 --> 00:29:53.500 took me a minute to get it back up So 591 00:29:53.539 --> 00:29:55.559 we should be live again, FaZe. Let us know in 592 00:29:55.579 --> 00:29:58.059 the chat room. I'm not looking at it, but thank 593 00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:59.759 you for checking in on that. Which, by the way, 594 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:04.970 if you are listening live, it is, well, what, 837, 595 00:30:04.970 --> 00:30:07.970 almost 838 on my clock in the Eastern time zone. 596 00:30:09.069 --> 00:30:11.190 So that means if you're out, you know, way out 597 00:30:11.230 --> 00:30:15.490 west in America, it's what, three hours apart? It's over 598 00:30:15.509 --> 00:30:18.609 there about 530, right? Anyway, here, yep, 838 just now. 599 00:30:23.430 --> 00:30:26.700 As I speak. But anyway. Yeah. Phase. You should probably 600 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.480 hear that about a minute late. And that's about the 601 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.599 delay we have now. From what I can see. And 602 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.940 we do appear to be broadcasting live. Sorry about that. 603 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:40.660 Anybody wants to test that. You can call in of course. 319-527-5016. 604 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.400 But continuing on with our discussion. No. But it is. 605 00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:46.200 Like. 606 00:30:46.460 --> 00:30:50.839 Bear is a giant monster company now though. And yeah. 607 00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:52.859 For years and years. People just thought they were aspirin. 608 00:30:54.609 --> 00:30:57.930 You know, making that plain, uncoated crap aspirin that, you know, 609 00:30:57.950 --> 00:31:00.250 you get. And of course, you can buy the bear 610 00:31:00.289 --> 00:31:02.910 brand and get it in the black and yellow bottle. 611 00:31:03.009 --> 00:31:03.250 Right. 612 00:31:04.210 --> 00:31:08.259 Or you could get various companies that, you know, basically 613 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.380 license it from them. The same combination. And some of them, oh, 614 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.740 my God, put a coating on it. So you don't 615 00:31:16.099 --> 00:31:20.200 feel like you're swallowing chalk. But they go way, way 616 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:23.039

beyond that. They make food additives. They make, you know, 617 00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.839 the industrial applications for what we're talking about regarding gasoline. 618 00:31:27.859 --> 00:31:31.940 They're involved in that stuff, too. But Exxon and Shell Corp., 619 00:31:32.589 --> 00:31:36.250 those two companies, whatever umbrella they're under now, you know, 620 00:31:36.789 --> 00:31:40.890 Exxon is ExxonMobil still. They're still trading under that name. 621 00:31:41.069 --> 00:31:45.119 And Shell, I think, is still Shell Royal. It's still 622 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:46.700 under Shell Royal. Yeah, go ahead. 623 00:31:46.779 --> 00:31:50.809 Yeah, look at Dow. Dow Chemical. 624 00:31:50.890 --> 00:31:53.509 There you go. And their whole thing is all sorts 625 00:31:53.529 --> 00:31:56.069 of chemicals again. And like I said, it goes from 626 00:31:56.170 --> 00:32:02.029 food to transportation to the industrial and commercial uses you 627 00:32:02.049 --> 00:32:06.029 were talking about. Lubricants, you name it, they make it. 628 00:32:07.210 --> 00:32:10.410 So everything from Vaseline to aspirin back to what makes 629 00:32:10.430 --> 00:32:13.930 your car run back to the things you eat. And 630 00:32:13.990 --> 00:32:18.140 Dow makes lots of stuff that becomes clothing. Um, you know, 631 00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.940 just saying, yeah, it is all around you. The chemical 632 00:32:21.980 --> 00:32:27.200 companies are really just the, the quiet partners in seemingly 633 00:32:27.420 --> 00:32:31.990 everybody's business one way or another, you know? So, I mean, 634 00:32:32.009 --> 00:32:33.690 that's the way, wouldn't you say that's a fair way 635 00:32:33.710 --> 00:32:35.509 to look at it? The chemical companies are pretty much 636 00:32:35.549 --> 00:32:37.089 a partner in everybody's business. 637 00:32:38.009 --> 00:32:38.329 Oh yeah. 638 00:32:38.390 --> 00:32:42.289 They're part of everything. I mean, everything they've got afoot. 639 00:32:43.569 --> 00:32:47.240 I'm not giving a moral judgment on it, but it 640 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.059 does get out of control when they don't care what 641 00:32:49.099 --> 00:32:52.339 happens as a result of stuff they knew shouldn't have 642 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.019 been loosed. They do that all the time. 643 00:32:54.859 --> 00:32:58.160 I did not know that Dow Chemical bought Union Carbide. 644 00:33:00.950 --> 00:33:03.990 See, that's the thing. In the age of consolidation that 645 00:33:04.029 --> 00:33:08.490 we're in, it's almost hard to keep track of. If 646 00:33:08.549 --> 00:33:11.390 you want to know who makes your food, even, And 647 00:33:11.549 --> 00:33:14.130 you look at, OK, it's it's actually created by this 648 00:33:14.190 --> 00:33:17.819 company or whatever, like Quaker or whatever. You got to 649 00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.259 look at who owns Quaker. And at the end of 650 00:33:22.299 --> 00:33:24.839 the day, what is it? The you know, the big 651 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.200 the big we own a share of everything. Companies own 652 00:33:28.220 --> 00:33:30.559 a piece of everything. That's the other thing. You know, 653 00:33:30.579 --> 00:33:35.039 you're BlackRock and stuff like that. So, you know, ownership 654 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.779 has been so atomized at this point and turned into 655 00:33:37.819 --> 00:33:42.299 these great conglomerations that are these composites of various other 656 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:46.940 larger organizations. It's difficult to unravel. Like, that's my argument 657 00:33:46.980 --> 00:33:50.509 with the media companies is at this point, we're faced 658 00:33:50.569 --> 00:33:55.849 with really four large entities that own everything that is 659 00:33:55.910 --> 00:34:00.289 produced in media pretty much. one way or another. It 660 00:34:00.329 --> 00:34:02.650 may be under this banner or that banner, but I mean, 661 00:34:02.730 --> 00:34:05.599 gone are the days of thinking of the Columbia broadcast 662 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.380 system as a separate entity. Gone are the days of 663 00:34:09.420 --> 00:34:11.900 thinking about a cell phone company is different than a 664 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.840 broadcast media. They're all combined. You know, you got a 665 00:34:16.889 --> 00:34:20.710 cell phone company that owns HBO, which in turn owns 666 00:34:20.750 --> 00:34:23.469 a movie studio, which in turn owns your streaming service, 667 00:34:23.550 --> 00:34:26.070 which et cetera. Like I said, there's about four companies 668 00:34:26.130 --> 00:34:28.849 left now, guys. We used to talk about six and 669 00:34:28.889 --> 00:34:33.420 then maybe five. There's four now with all these buyouts and, 670 00:34:33.739 --> 00:34:38.039 you know, consolidations and, you know, combinations that have been 671 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:39.440 made out of these different companies. 672 00:34:40.619 --> 00:34:44.809 I did not know this, but Dow invented polystyrene back 673 00:34:44.889 --> 00:34:47.309 in 1937. That's when they started producing it. 674 00:34:47.469 --> 00:34:49.369 Did not know that. Yeah, the stuff that they said 675 00:34:49.409 --> 00:34:51.630 we could never get rid of. That's actually what everybody 676 00:34:51.670 --> 00:34:56.639 always calls it styrofoam. But styrofoam is one of the things. 677 00:34:57.389 --> 00:35:01.389 The polystyrene, that actual plastic with the gas injected in it, yeah, 678 00:35:01.429 --> 00:35:04.610 that's their invention from the 30s. But when they started 679 00:35:04.650 --> 00:35:10.090 to mass produce it in disposable ways, like constantly disposing 680 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.980 of it as opposed to slightly longer term use for 681 00:35:13.019 --> 00:35:16.380 filters and things like that, that's when it became a 682 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:18.780 mess because people found out it doesn't break down, not 683 00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:23.190 even in landfills. You know, but but they knew that 684

00:35:23.250 --> 00:35:26.510 when they made this stuff, it was meant for durability initially. 685 00:35:26.570 --> 00:35:28.869 And people took it because it was so cheap and 686 00:35:28.989 --> 00:35:32.130 utilized it for disposable goods. Not the smartest thing. 687 00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:36.599 They were also the back during the Second World War. 688 00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:42.099 They were the big synthetic rubber producers, which, again, was 689 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:48.840 made from butadiene and styrene. Right. So their first product 690 00:35:48.889 --> 00:35:52.909 that they come out with in 37 is now vital 691 00:35:52.949 --> 00:35:56.690 to the war effort in 42 when they were able 692 00:35:56.710 --> 00:35:58.590 to start producing synthetic rubber. 693 00:35:58.989 --> 00:36:03.030 Well, because you want to talk about supply chain disruption. 694 00:36:03.170 --> 00:36:05.849 I mean, the places where rubber trees were, it was 695 00:36:05.909 --> 00:36:11.010 impossible to get natural rubber. So, yeah, they started substituting 696 00:36:11.070 --> 00:36:13.349 it and even had difficulties because of the war efforts. 697 00:36:14.170 --> 00:36:16.449 There was a point at which you bought a car. 698 00:36:17.670 --> 00:36:19.909 In the United States and you got a wooden bumper 699 00:36:21.590 --> 00:36:23.760 and they would, you know, promise that as soon as 700 00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:26.440 the chrome and stuff was available that you could get, 701 00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:31.099 you know, the replacement. But temporarily you get a wooden bumper. 702 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.530 This is a true, true fact because of the shortage 703 00:36:34.690 --> 00:36:35.309 on chrome. 704 00:36:36.380 --> 00:36:36.619 Right. 705 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:38.739 I mean, this is just, you know, the stuff that's 706 00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.610 gone on. And the beneficiaries, again, over and over again, 707 00:36:41.809 --> 00:36:45.909 are usually these large companies who position themselves for it. 708 00:36:46.010 --> 00:36:49.769 And in some cases will turn around and lobby, you know, 709 00:36:49.849 --> 00:36:52.150 in favor of war efforts and whatnot so they can 710 00:36:52.190 --> 00:36:57.179 sell plastic. And all your petrochemical companies have benefited from this, 711 00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:01.360 you know, since, geez, I don't know, since World War One, 712 00:37:01.420 --> 00:37:06.010 I think. All of the petrochemical companies have benefited from 713 00:37:06.050 --> 00:37:12.519 this because they're integral parts of the military-industrial complex's constant 714 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:18.940 production lines, not just for weaponry or for aircraft or 715 00:37:18.980 --> 00:37:22.670 anything like that, but I mean simple things like shoes, boots, 716 00:37:22.869 --> 00:37:25.389 and stuff like that. You know what I mean? There 717 00:37:25.469 --> 00:37:28.849 are components to that, shoelaces, you name it, that are 718 00:37:28.889 --> 00:37:33.159 constantly in need of production because of troops. And stuff 719 00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:35.840 like that. And they benefit every time you rip open 720 00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:38.250 an MRE. Yeah. 721 00:37:38.349 --> 00:37:38.809 It's funny. 722 00:37:39.150 --> 00:37:40.750 Some of the things, reading through this, some of the 723 00:37:40.789 --> 00:37:41.809 things they've come up with. 724 00:37:41.929 --> 00:37:48.469 In 43, they formed Dow Corning. They went in business 725 00:37:48.530 --> 00:37:53.320 with Corning Glassworks. Right. And that's where they started exploring 726 00:37:53.380 --> 00:37:54.739 silicone for military use. 727 00:37:55.260 --> 00:37:57.429 Their first product... was Dow. 728 00:37:57.269 --> 00:38:02.070 Corning 4 compound, an ignition sealing compound that allowed airplanes 729 00:38:02.110 --> 00:38:03.630 to fly at higher altitudes. 730 00:38:04.230 --> 00:38:04.369 Right. 731 00:38:04.389 --> 00:38:09.449 That's pretty cool. They invented Saran, which was later sold 732 00:38:10.190 --> 00:38:11.050 as Saran Wrap. 733 00:38:11.530 --> 00:38:16.099 Right. Yep, the clear plastic wrap. And like you said, 734 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:18.960 stuff like the seals that need to go on stuff 735 00:38:18.980 --> 00:38:22.880 like aircraft. You know, there it is. Your constant benefit 736 00:38:22.940 --> 00:38:25.639 from the common thing. You know, like the stories you 737 00:38:25.699 --> 00:38:29.639 used to hear about somebody's grandfather invented a kind of 738 00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:32.860 wrapper that went around food that kept it fresher longer. Well, 739 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:34.860 that guy, you know, was set for life. And so 740 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.699 were his great grandchildren, you know, because of the constant, 741 00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:41.869 you know, it's like you sell. Look, people try to 742 00:38:41.909 --> 00:38:43.750 sell things for a dollar and I get it and 743 00:38:43.769 --> 00:38:45.949 they want a profit margin, et cetera. But if you 744 00:38:45.969 --> 00:38:49.469 can figure out a way to sell something almost, you know, 745 00:38:49.550 --> 00:38:54.030 in perpetuity without interruption, like a plastic bag. You know, 746 00:38:54.110 --> 00:38:55.230 if you can figure out a way to make a 747 00:38:55.250 --> 00:38:57.489 plastic bag essential and you're the only one that knows 748 00:38:57.530 --> 00:39:00.230 how to make a plastic bag, you can get just 749 00:39:00.289 --> 00:39:03.760 a licensing, you know, a constant fee from that, you know, 750 00:39:03.820 --> 00:39:07.420 billions of times as all these plastic bags are produced. 751 00:39:07.460 --> 00:39:09.340 And people need to remember that in the business models, 752 00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.800 because that's why the waste is created. You know what 753 00:39:13.820 --> 00:39:16.610 I'm saying? Because it becomes the shortcut. Like I said, 754 00:39:16.659 --> 00:39:20.190 the

polystyrene was not intended to become, you know, the 755 00:39:20.230 --> 00:39:23.980 hamburger shells for McDonald's. But because it was so cheap 756 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.530 and accessible, you know, why not sell something for five 757 00:39:27.590 --> 00:39:28.869 cents billions of times? 758 00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:33.909 You know, a little North Carolina history in this, um, 759 00:39:34.650 --> 00:39:39.219 back in 1942, uh, the Ethel Dow Chemical Plant at 760 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:43.119 Curry Beach in North Carolina, was the only plant on 761 00:39:43.139 --> 00:39:46.139 the East Coast producing bromine from seawater, and it was 762 00:39:46.300 --> 00:39:48.429 actually attacked by a German U-boat in 1942. 763 00:39:48.429 --> 00:39:50.280 I did not know that. 764 00:39:51.650 --> 00:39:52.010 Well, right. 765 00:39:52.050 --> 00:39:56.349 When I talk about the mob involvement with keeping the 766 00:39:56.409 --> 00:39:59.690 ports safe in New York, that was a real concern 767 00:39:59.849 --> 00:40:02.250 up and down the East Coast, is that a lot 768 00:40:02.269 --> 00:40:05.070 of these companies that were positioned so they could ship 769 00:40:05.130 --> 00:40:10.010 things out on ships— near an ocean, well, some of 770 00:40:10.030 --> 00:40:15.050 them were essential for creating various, again, seemingly benign or 771 00:40:15.449 --> 00:40:19.110 not even noticeable products for the war efforts. And the 772 00:40:19.150 --> 00:40:21.369 Germans were smart enough to know that if they disrupted 773 00:40:21.690 --> 00:40:26.670 those things, they could disrupt our new war production. Uh, 774 00:40:27.010 --> 00:40:29.989 and therefore slow down our military progress by us not 775 00:40:30.030 --> 00:40:33.389 having enough ready, like boots, not having enough seals for 776 00:40:33.429 --> 00:40:37.349 those airplanes, not having enough plastic bags would literally slow 777 00:40:37.389 --> 00:40:40.650 down the movement of a military. Uh, when they were, 778 00:40:40.699 --> 00:40:43.980 you know, massively based on, you know, people, uh, in 779 00:40:44.019 --> 00:40:46.199 the days of drones and everything else. I mean, there's 780 00:40:46.260 --> 00:40:48.619 new types of disruptions. You probably wouldn't have, you know, 781 00:40:48.659 --> 00:40:50.559 somebody tried, but they were trying to attack up and 782 00:40:50.579 --> 00:40:54.420 down on the East coast constantly. Um, uh, And there 783 00:40:54.739 --> 00:40:57.130 you go. That's why you don't see stories of a 784 00:40:57.150 --> 00:41:02.570 big problem in New York Harbor. Because they went to, 785 00:41:02.869 --> 00:41:06.780 you know, Sal Lacarnia, which is Lucky Luciano. They went 786 00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:10.119 to him and said, hey, your people are already plugged in. 787 00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:14.940 They used an existing intelligence apparatus, which was the so-called mafia, 788 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.389 to secure the port. Because it was a

key choke point. 789 00:41:19.469 --> 00:41:22.389 If they had like somehow bombed or destroyed or torpedoed 790 00:41:22.429 --> 00:41:24.710 a bunch of boats like in New York Harbor, if 791 00:41:24.750 --> 00:41:28.570 they had done that right there, the war would not 792 00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:34.530 have gone the same way, literally. So, you know, there's 793 00:41:34.550 --> 00:41:36.230 something to be said for that. And they tried to 794 00:41:36.269 --> 00:41:38.230 control it up and down the East Coast. But again, 795 00:41:39.190 --> 00:41:42.750 they didn't have something that was already in place where 796 00:41:42.889 --> 00:41:45.050 they already knew everything that was coming in, even when 797 00:41:45.070 --> 00:41:48.190 they weren't supposed to, because of the criminal element. And 798 00:41:48.289 --> 00:41:51.340 literally the U.S. government requested the help of those people 799 00:41:51.409 --> 00:41:53.599 up there in order to make sure. 800 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:57.079 Yeah. Sorry. A word from word from chat. Faye says 801 00:41:57.139 --> 00:41:58.400 that everything is all good. 802 00:41:58.659 --> 00:41:59.519 Yeah. OK, good. 803 00:41:59.699 --> 00:41:59.940 Good. 804 00:41:59.960 --> 00:42:02.800 Because we do have a call now. And I just 805 00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:05.480 just saw him come on. But I want to get 806 00:42:05.539 --> 00:42:07.360 straight to him unless you want to continue on with 807 00:42:07.380 --> 00:42:09.039 this just a little bit. Go ahead. And, you know, 808 00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:10.559 before I go to the caller. 809 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:15.050 Oh, no. I mean, that's just our. trivia field section 810 00:42:15.110 --> 00:42:17.409 of the night let's go to the caller and see 811 00:42:17.449 --> 00:42:18.510 what they want to talk. 812 00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:21.110 About and see where this show goes because that's the 813 00:42:21.150 --> 00:42:25.449 way it rolls so if you call in at 319-527-5016 814 00:42:26.309 --> 00:42:28.590 you get to dictate how the show goes by introducing 815 00:42:28.630 --> 00:42:33.409 whatever's on your mind so uh danny in california you're 816 00:42:33.469 --> 00:42:36.320 live Oh, wow. 817 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.500 Happy to pass. Thank you for taking my call. 818 00:42:38.699 --> 00:42:39.340 How are you doing? 819 00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:42.159 Oh, so-so. I'm trying to get through the rest of 820 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:46.380 the day. It's been, you know, interesting as always. 821 00:42:47.340 --> 00:42:48.199 I don't hear him at all. 822 00:42:48.789 --> 00:42:50.590 Oh, you don't hear Danny? No. 823 00:42:50.610 --> 00:42:51.489 You don't hear me? 824 00:42:51.929 --> 00:42:53.510 Ah, crap. Hold on a second, Danny. 825 00:42:53.530 --> 00:42:55.409 I've got no worries. 826 00:42:55.929 --> 00:42:59.030 No, no, no. You're okay, Danny. Don't you worry. Let 827 00:42:59.070 --> 00:43:01.300 me just figure out why BP can't hear you, because 828 00:43:01.340 --> 00:43:04.000 they changed the stupid pipeline again. 829 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:06.599 It's something on the board. 830 00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.639 Okay, how about this? Go ahead, Danny, say something. 831 00:43:10.659 --> 00:43:12.239 Yeah. How you doing, BP? 832 00:43:13.699 --> 00:43:14.980 You didn't hear him that time either? 833 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:16.530 Nope, not. 834 00:43:17.510 --> 00:43:20.730 Okay, hold on. Let's see. We'll go back to that microphone. 835 00:43:21.429 --> 00:43:23.130 Ain't technology great. 836 00:43:23.349 --> 00:43:25.550 And now we'll go to the different pipeline on the 837 00:43:25.610 --> 00:43:27.750 speaker and see if that works. Go ahead, Danny. 838 00:43:29.780 --> 00:43:31.780 Yeah. 839 00:43:32.500 --> 00:43:34.400 How's the weather in North Carolina, BP? 840 00:43:36.210 --> 00:43:39.369 It is phenomenal. We just had a front move through, 841 00:43:39.389 --> 00:43:40.690 so it's going to cool off and be in the 842 00:43:40.750 --> 00:43:44.949 60s tomorrow, which means I don't sweat as much being 843 00:43:44.969 --> 00:43:47.300 a yard monkey. There you go. 844 00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.130 Congratulations. I'm glad you're here. You're more comfortable. 845 00:43:53.550 --> 00:43:56.329 Yeah, finally, it did get more comfortable. But as we 846 00:43:56.389 --> 00:43:58.110 noted at the beginning of the show, which you may 847 00:43:58.130 --> 00:44:00.210 or may not have heard, because apparently our live stream 848 00:44:00.250 --> 00:44:03.750 went down for a few minutes. Yeah, but it is 849 00:44:03.789 --> 00:44:06.090 getting cold in the mornings now for those of us 850 00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:07.699 in the south that were so used to the heat. 851 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.539 So pretty soon we'll be cutting on heat now, which 852 00:44:12.659 --> 00:44:13.219 is the other morning. 853 00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:16.260 It was a 38 the other morning for you. 854 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:20.940 Yeah. 38. I mean, I don't care what you say. 855 00:44:20.980 --> 00:44:21.519 That's chilly. 856 00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:26.070 Yeah. It got down to like 29 here, like below 857 00:44:26.150 --> 00:44:29.070 freezing on the Fahrenheit. Uh, you know, again, I'm in 858 00:44:29.090 --> 00:44:32.909 a slightly different temperate zone, but you know, that, that, uh, 859 00:44:33.110 --> 00:44:37.230 other nine degrees or whatever made a difference in making, uh, 860 00:44:37.429 --> 00:44:40.699 it was pretty damn chilly to me. Uh, but again, 861 00:44:40.760 --> 00:44:42.159 if it was back in the days when I lived 862 00:44:42.179 --> 00:44:44.599 in Jersey, I'd be like, ah, this is good breathing air. 863 00:44:45.260 --> 00:44:49.489 You know, I'd be thrilled, but, uh, Macon, Georgia. Now 864 00:44:49.530 --> 00:44:52.889 I feel cold. Sort of like that old adage where 865 00:44:52.909 --> 00:44:57.780 they said your blood's thinner. You know, is it really thinner? Exactly. 866 00:44:57.840 -->

00:45:00.699 Is the viscosity a change in your blood? I'm not 867 00:45:01.059 --> 00:45:03.550 precisely certain. If you had. 868 00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:07.769 Been listening last week, paying attention, we covered it. 869 00:45:08.070 --> 00:45:10.409 If you're O positive, your blood is thinner. 870 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:13.579 There you go. We talked about this last week. Correct. 871 00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.219 And BP was talking about O positive blood versus my 872 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.480 very common A positive blood, which, you know, has its 873 00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.559 own relative. And that's the thing, your blood type. And 874 00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:27.650 believe it or not, although people will say this is racist, 875 00:45:27.710 --> 00:45:32.260 but your ethnicity is also changes the way your body reacts, uh, 876 00:45:32.389 --> 00:45:38.489 based on the, you know, overwhelming characteristics of your ancestry will, uh, 877 00:45:38.579 --> 00:45:41.099 have an effect on how you interact with your environment, 878 00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:44.340 no matter where you are. So, you know, there's two 879 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:48.780 things there plus the, uh, type of blood and everything. Uh, 880 00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.579 so anyway, yeah, we did cover this last week, but anyway, Danny, 881 00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.639 there you go. There's your question. What's on your mind 882 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:54.019 this week? 883 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:54.420 Yeah. 884 00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:59.610 Well, um, I'll give you a little weather report here. 885 00:46:00.050 --> 00:46:05.570 It is running about 44 degrees below and 72 the high. 886 00:46:06.349 --> 00:46:09.789 So it's a little chilly for us in the morning, 887 00:46:09.829 --> 00:46:12.630 but the days or the afternoons are great. I came 888 00:46:12.670 --> 00:46:15.630 from the Napa Valley, and the fall colors are turning, 889 00:46:15.690 --> 00:46:18.610 and beautiful part of wine country, but I didn't drink 890 00:46:18.670 --> 00:46:25.010 any wine. It was beautiful. What is on my mind is... Well, 891 00:46:25.030 --> 00:46:27.550 I got a strange story. I read that in Florida 892 00:46:27.650 --> 00:46:30.670 that Meghan Markle's father was arrested. 893 00:46:32.230 --> 00:46:32.550 Really? 894 00:46:33.469 --> 00:46:33.769 Yeah. 895 00:46:33.929 --> 00:46:34.170 Yeah. 896 00:46:34.849 --> 00:46:37.059 I didn't see that one. BP, did you catch that one? 897 00:46:37.099 --> 00:46:38.900 Meghan Markle's father was arrested? 898 00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:40.900 Yeah, it's been the headline for the past couple of days. 899 00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:43.719 She's got caught with a bunch of skateboarding stuff. 900 00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:52.639 Ooh. Well, that's never good. You know. Wow. Wow. Uh, no, 901 00:46:52.659 --> 00:46:54.539 I didn't read that story. So go on, Danny, tell 902 00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:55.320 me more about it. 903 00:46:55.380 --> 00:46:59.079 I mean,

is this, uh, I guess I've just, every 904 00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:03.159 time I see, I know that you're what you have, uh, have, 905 00:47:03.500 --> 00:47:06.519 have enlightened me on or educated me is about the 906 00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.380 strange stories and going on in Florida. 907 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:14.929 Oh yeah. Well, Florida is an interesting thing. It's an 908 00:47:15.030 --> 00:47:19.809 interesting state. You know, I mean, nobody can argue with 909 00:47:19.849 --> 00:47:22.530 me on that, that there are things that happen in 910 00:47:22.570 --> 00:47:27.429 Florida that only happen in Florida. I mean, seriously, there are. 911 00:47:28.469 --> 00:47:29.829 Would you disagree with that, BP? 912 00:47:31.409 --> 00:47:32.360 Oh, no, not at all. 913 00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.599 I mean, there's there's four states in the U.S. that 914 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:37.260 you could pull out. I mean, and they'd be their 915 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:42.639 own country. And that's New York, California, Texas and Florida. Yeah. 916 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:47.219 Yeah, I can't really argue much. They could easily be 917 00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:51.269 their own countries because they are that different from the 918 00:47:51.349 --> 00:47:54.670 rest of the 50, you know. I mean, Alaska is too, 919 00:47:54.750 --> 00:47:58.309 but nobody thinks of Alaska, right? And so is Hawaii, 920 00:47:58.530 --> 00:48:01.150 another place that could, should be its own country too. 921 00:48:01.449 --> 00:48:04.909 Yeah, Alaska is more like our Siberia, I guess. 922 00:48:05.590 --> 00:48:07.679 Well, yeah, but I mean, you wouldn't say that it's 923 00:48:07.739 --> 00:48:10.579 distinctively different from the majority of the country the way 924 00:48:10.619 --> 00:48:11.230 Alaska is? 925 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.840 Well, yeah, only because of where they're located and what 926 00:48:14.860 --> 00:48:17.059 people have to live through under those conditions. 927 00:48:17.139 --> 00:48:21.250 I mean, basically, you've got two seasons, ice and mosquito. 928 00:48:22.070 --> 00:48:28.110 Yep. And that creates a certain interesting mentality. Also, you know, 929 00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:31.130 I think they still pay every resident, you know, a 930 00:48:31.190 --> 00:48:33.530 fuel dividend, right, just to live there, don't they? 931 00:48:34.070 --> 00:48:36.429 Yeah, I think, yes. I think that dividend is still 932 00:48:36.469 --> 00:48:40.380 going on. Well, but that's like the... Cherokee Nation in 933 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.300 the western part of our state. I mean, they all 934 00:48:42.340 --> 00:48:43.829 get a cut from the casino. 935 00:48:46.869 --> 00:48:50.590 Well, yeah, but that is literally a different country by definition, right? 936 00:48:50.769 --> 00:48:53.860 Because that's separate from the United States, technically speaking. 937 00:48:54.820 --> 00:48:56.800 Well, yes, until they want something. 938 00:48:57.929 --> 00:49:01.530 It's like i'm not saying that the technicality. 939 00:49:01.050 --> 00:49:02.989 You gotta yeah that's what gets me they want a 940 00:49:03.030 --> 00:49:05.119 lot of government funding but they've got a you know 941 00:49:05.139 --> 00:49:08.380 a monopoly on casinos in this state it's like yo 942 00:49:08.420 --> 00:49:09.960 you can't have it both. 943 00:49:09.739 --> 00:49:14.510 Ways well but they can't because they have jurisdiction over 944 00:49:14.510 --> 00:49:18.570 that land but you know again but I don't know 945 00:49:18.610 --> 00:49:21.170 what's forced upon them and what isn't at this point. 946 00:49:21.210 --> 00:49:24.710 Like how independently do the Indian nations act? And I 947 00:49:24.750 --> 00:49:27.489 know it's not, you know, correct to say Indian nations, but, 948 00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:32.039 you know, the Native American nations, how do they, you know, 949 00:49:32.900 --> 00:49:37.019 act when it comes to, you know, certain things? I 950 00:49:37.059 --> 00:49:41.550 don't know. Uh, but, uh, technically speaking, they are not 951 00:49:42.130 --> 00:49:46.670 a formal part of America necessarily. Uh, and they do 952 00:49:46.710 --> 00:49:50.610 have jurisdiction over their own land. Uh, but you know 953 00:49:50.730 --> 00:49:53.389 how they choose to apply it or allow others to 954 00:49:53.449 --> 00:50:00.420 come in or not, et cetera. That's always like a constant, uh, uh, controversy. Right. So, 955 00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:04.320 you know, uh, it's complex. How about that? It's not 956 00:50:04.380 --> 00:50:06.920 necessarily something that's a hundred percent cut and dry all 957 00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:11.980 the time. But taxation and representation and all that, those 958 00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:16.699 things are, again, always complex as well. So, you know, 959 00:50:17.059 --> 00:50:21.610 under certain circumstances, there's no taxation, no oversight from the 960 00:50:21.670 --> 00:50:24.550 federal government over their land and this and that. But 961 00:50:24.630 --> 00:50:28.449 on the other hand, like you said, they still benefit some. 962 00:50:28.670 --> 00:50:30.860 And some would argue that it does need to be 963 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:34.420 a little a bit of a mixture because they are landlocked. 964 00:50:35.449 --> 00:50:38.429 They're not capable of expansion and they are restricted to 965 00:50:39.349 --> 00:50:42.349 certain things. So based on those restrictions, you know, could 966 00:50:42.389 --> 00:50:47.510 they develop their own social safety nets, et cetera, independently? Well, 967 00:50:47.590 --> 00:50:51.820 outside of the casinos being revenues and, you know, there 968 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:55.639 were tribal like outposts that were stores that sold to 969 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:58.280 guess what? Mostly people from outside of the tribe. 970 00:50:58.300 --> 00:50:58.400 Right. 971 00:50:59.340 --> 00:51:03.559 That we're doing business with Americans. You know, there's

a 972 00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:07.460 certain level of crossover there where, you know, again, it's 973 00:51:07.500 --> 00:51:11.239 just it's a it's a very complex. Again, I use 974 00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:15.000 that word complex situation always seems like to me. But 975 00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.119 then again, you know, I'm one of these guys who 976 00:51:18.139 --> 00:51:21.440 looks at the world strangely. So maybe I'm crazy. Um, 977 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.039 but I don't begrudge them any of that stuff. As 978 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:25.780 far as, you know, building the casino, that was one 979 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.199 of the most intelligent things possibly to do with, with 980 00:51:28.219 --> 00:51:30.940 their land. Uh, cause a whole lot of the tribal 981 00:51:30.980 --> 00:51:35.900 lands that sat there doing nothing for a very long time, uh, 982 00:51:36.139 --> 00:51:39.070 you know, and, uh, poverty was pretty extreme in a 983 00:51:39.110 --> 00:51:42.349 lot of places previous to this. And, uh, true. There's 984 00:51:42.409 --> 00:51:45.630 even people that, you know, come from outside and claim 985 00:51:45.670 --> 00:51:48.349 a certain amount of ancestry and get themselves a cut. 986 00:51:49.269 --> 00:51:51.849 as just a member of the tribe uh later on 987 00:51:51.929 --> 00:51:55.170 as an ancestor if you will of the original people 988 00:51:55.190 --> 00:52:00.320 that were granted the reservation um so you know again 989 00:52:00.659 --> 00:52:04.579 complex area not all cut and dry in one direction 990 00:52:04.619 --> 00:52:07.400 or another the way i see it but i'm crazy 991 00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.320 but anyways um Jesus, Danny, I went way off on 992 00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.679 a weird rant. We talked about tribal jurisdiction. Excuse me, 993 00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:18.429 but what else did you have that you wanted to 994 00:52:18.449 --> 00:52:18.929 throw in there? 995 00:52:18.949 --> 00:52:19.150 Go ahead. 996 00:52:19.210 --> 00:52:24.349 Well, since you went off the reservation in so many ways, 997 00:52:24.469 --> 00:52:27.130 or the tribal or on the reservation. 998 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.320 I went on the reservation as opposed to off the reservation. 999 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:32.000 I agree. Yes. 1000 00:52:32.059 --> 00:52:35.579 You know, a couple things about that. Like now here 1001 00:52:35.619 --> 00:52:42.670 in California with the gaming industry, You remember on HBO, 1002 00:52:42.690 --> 00:52:48.829 we talked about the octopus conspiracy on Netflix, not HBO, 1003 00:52:49.369 --> 00:52:55.550 and the Danny Casolaro murder. And the reservation was the 1004 00:52:55.590 --> 00:53:00.199 Casablanca Indian Reservation. It was basically a really small port. 1005 00:53:00.780 --> 00:53:05.320 But not only were they involved with weapons trafficking, with 1006 00:53:05.380 --> 00:53:10.690 the Contras... They were also the first one that started 1007 00:53:10.730 --> 00:53:13.449 a card room. I saw a documentary, and they started 1008 00:53:13.510 --> 00:53:18.070 a card room with gaming and cigarettes and liquor. But 1009 00:53:18.110 --> 00:53:21.710 what they did is they took those profits. They were smart. 1010 00:53:21.750 --> 00:53:26.530 They immediately lawyered up and lobbied up. And they put 1011 00:53:26.570 --> 00:53:28.860 their profits in there because they knew that there was 1012 00:53:28.889 --> 00:53:34.099 going to be the proposition process. They were very intelligent 1013 00:53:34.300 --> 00:53:37.079 about how they attacked us. That little card room there 1014 00:53:37.099 --> 00:53:43.300 in the Casablanca, Indian Reservation. I was there a few 1015 00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:45.179 years ago with some friends. They took me out there. 1016 00:53:45.219 --> 00:53:49.219 They've got a huge casino and an amazing buffet restaurant there. 1017 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.440 I mean, it's a Las Vegas-style type of casino out 1018 00:53:52.460 --> 00:53:55.079 there in the middle of the desert. And it's near 1019 00:53:55.139 --> 00:53:59.260 Palm Springs, between Palm Springs and Los Angeles. So I've 1020 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:03.829 always wondered, you know, You know, from the Iran-Contra to the, 1021 00:54:04.230 --> 00:54:07.469 you know, the lobbying, you know, what other money is 1022 00:54:07.530 --> 00:54:10.090 being laundered to those casinos? 1023 00:54:10.909 --> 00:54:14.289 Well, there's a lot of interesting dynamics there. And you 1024 00:54:14.329 --> 00:54:17.500 could begin with ready for this and nobody, you know, 1025 00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:19.739 you'd have to go back to my discussion on the 1026 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:25.860 octopus conspiracy on this show probably 10 years ago, you know, 1027 00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:30.019 where I was discussing it. And I pointed out then that, 1028 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.980 you know, due to forensic reconstruction based on the financial documents, 1029 00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:39.119 there is pretty good evidence to my mind, although nobody 1030 00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:43.760 ever brings this forward, that some of the reservations were 1031 00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:48.760 also involved in the MKUltra programs. OK, where they offered 1032 00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:53.199 up subjects for cash pretty much among the tribes, their 1033 00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:58.239 own people. They offered them up to be utilized in experiments. 1034 00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:03.579 And in some cases where you see a parallel timeline, 1035 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:07.119 the development of all of a sudden from selling trinkets 1036 00:55:07.179 --> 00:55:12.030 and cigarettes, which they could do tax-free on the reservations 1037 00:55:12.110 --> 00:55:14.130 for many, many years. I'm not sure what the arrangement 1038 00:55:14.190 --> 00:55:17.150 is now. But they were free of the federal taxes, 1039 00:55:17.230 --> 00:55:21.090 which greatly reduced the cigarette price and attracted

lots of 1040 00:55:21.150 --> 00:55:25.289 outside traffic and tourists and things. But they went from 1041 00:55:25.329 --> 00:55:28.119 doing that to all of a sudden having large amounts 1042 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:33.050 of money injected. And that happened, guess what, during exactly 1043 00:55:33.110 --> 00:55:38.500 the time when there is circumstantial evidence, at least, that 1044 00:55:38.579 --> 00:55:41.480 some of that money might have come from, guess what? Yeah, 1045 00:55:41.539 --> 00:55:47.070 the artichoke and MK Ultra. And some of that money 1046 00:55:47.110 --> 00:55:50.489 was wide investment so they could test things on, you know, 1047 00:55:50.550 --> 00:55:53.409 a population that really doesn't have the power to lodge 1048 00:55:53.429 --> 00:55:56.210 a good complaint. Because who are they going to go to? 1049 00:55:56.250 --> 00:55:58.050 They're going to go to their tribal elders who sold 1050 00:55:58.090 --> 00:56:03.099 them out to begin with. And that is evident to me. 1051 00:56:03.980 --> 00:56:06.429 But there are other people that think that it's, you know, 1052 00:56:06.469 --> 00:56:09.369 just circumstantial and who knows where those payments really went, 1053 00:56:09.489 --> 00:56:12.650 et cetera. Because, again, it's a whole lot of forensic 1054 00:56:12.710 --> 00:56:16.010 accounting that had to be done to reconstruct stuff so 1055 00:56:16.030 --> 00:56:18.869 that you could see payments being made to McGill and 1056 00:56:19.150 --> 00:56:23.460 the Canadian universities and the various, you know, organizations and 1057 00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:28.610 institutions there. that went everywhere from New York brothels, uh, 1058 00:56:28.780 --> 00:56:34.960 to Canadian, uh, academia to academia in our Northern, let's say, uh, 1059 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:38.820 sector of the country all the way to California and 1060 00:56:38.900 --> 00:56:41.840 even links to, uh, you know, a VD clinic in 1061 00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:45.550 San Francisco. Um, you know, and you can see the 1062 00:56:45.590 --> 00:56:48.110 trail and you can see guys like, you know, Jolly 1063 00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:52.929 West showing up everywhere. Uh, but you can't necessarily get 1064 00:56:52.969 --> 00:56:56.429 to the particulars because again, uh, The only part of 1065 00:56:56.469 --> 00:57:00.869 the paperwork that wasn't fully destroyed during MK search was 1066 00:57:01.889 --> 00:57:05.800 was the financial documents. They forgot those. So they had 1067 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:08.400 to reconstruct the payments. And can you imagine if there 1068 00:57:08.420 --> 00:57:12.380 were transactions made that didn't require payments, which I'm sure 1069 00:57:12.420 --> 00:57:16.559 there were, you know, how about we deliver a, you know, 1070 00:57:16.780 --> 00:57:20.260 a truckload of resources and, you know, the guys that 1071 00:57:20.300 --> 00:57:22.619 are loading the truck or whatever, maybe we just take them. 1072 00:57:23.570

--> 00:57:25.929 And maybe they're never heard from again. And they were paid, 1073 00:57:25.969 --> 00:57:29.489 you know, five bucks to unload a truck. There's going 1074 00:57:29.510 --> 00:57:34.309 to be no documentation for that transaction, let's say. And 1075 00:57:34.369 --> 00:57:36.889 those guys might have been tortured, tested and disposed of 1076 00:57:37.429 --> 00:57:41.199 for all we know. And I believe that happened many times. 1077 00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:42.860 And there were people that claimed that they saw it 1078 00:57:42.900 --> 00:57:47.579 happen again in the mental hospitals and in the university hospitals, 1079 00:57:47.659 --> 00:57:50.280 et cetera, where, you know, they talked about the psychic 1080 00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:55.199 driving experiments and stuff like that. Again, these are accounts 1081 00:57:55.420 --> 00:57:58.980 from people that are admittedly psychologically and emotionally damaged and 1082 00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:03.280 clearly traumatized. So I would say that, you know, reliability 1083 00:58:03.400 --> 00:58:06.449 is also shaky there when it comes to memory that 1084 00:58:06.489 --> 00:58:11.849 was clearly manipulated under the circumstances. And also it began 1085 00:58:11.869 --> 00:58:14.940 to fuel the fantasies of certain people who did. have 1086 00:58:15.019 --> 00:58:18.070 you know experiences in psych wards and stuff that were 1087 00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.909 barbaric and were extremely cruel and everything else but didn't 1088 00:58:21.949 --> 00:58:25.269 necessarily have anything to do with mk ultra you know 1089 00:58:25.389 --> 00:58:28.989 electroshock was utilized by mk ultra but you weren't necessarily 1090 00:58:29.030 --> 00:58:32.210 given shock therapy always at the behest of the u.s 1091 00:58:32.250 --> 00:58:37.130 government okay uh even though that is barbaric and absolutely 1092 00:58:37.190 --> 00:58:40.460 backwards ass much like a lobotomy uh you know to 1093 00:58:40.500 --> 00:58:43.639 try and cure retardation which you know sorry for the 1094 00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:47.440 politically incorrect term but that was done uh and there 1095 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:51.239 are various butcherings and barbaric practices that have been uh 1096 00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.320 you know inflicted upon people in the name of science 1097 00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:58.789 and in the name of uh oh what would they 1098 00:58:58.849 --> 00:59:05.539 call that mental hygiene over the true history of A, psychiatry, B, 1099 00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:09.550 the Western world, and C, the ignorance of uh man 1100 00:59:09.610 --> 00:59:13.199 in general not just here but in europe regarding the 1101 00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:16.480 ways that they could test torture and attempt to make 1102 00:59:16.539 --> 00:59:20.099 people more adaptable one way or another and more compliant 1103 00:59:21.300 --> 00:59:23.300 um you know you don't believe me take a look 1104 00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:27.059 at what happened to the one kennedy kid right You know, 1105 00:59:27.159 --> 00:59:29.460 the rich people had access to many of these things 1106 00:59:29.500 --> 00:59:31.820 a little more than the poor. But believe me, the 1107 00:59:31.860 --> 00:59:34.639 groundwork was laid out on people that had nobody to 1108 00:59:34.699 --> 00:59:37.389 go to to complain to. And even if they did, 1109 00:59:37.670 --> 00:59:42.050 the clear excuse is, well, you know, this person's mentally ill. 1110 00:59:42.150 --> 00:59:47.030 So their point of view is. And therefore, why bother 1111 00:59:47.050 --> 00:59:50.530 following through on the complaint? Which is why the whole, 1112 00:59:50.590 --> 00:59:54.840 you know, habeas corpus process was introduced into this thing 1113 00:59:55.400 --> 00:59:58.900 after the Geneva Convention. You know, where you do have 1114 00:59:58.940 --> 01:00:00.880 a right to refuse this stuff, even if you are 1115 01:00:00.940 --> 01:00:05.389 mentally ill, so long as you're clear about the potential 1116 01:00:05.449 --> 01:00:09.730 consequences or anything else, etc. There is a limitation on 1117 01:00:09.750 --> 01:00:11.829 what they can do to you. But then again, if 1118 01:00:11.889 --> 01:00:14.400 nobody ever finds out, you know, cop didn't see it, 1119 01:00:14.429 --> 01:00:18.539 I didn't do it. sort of mentality prevailed there so 1120 01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:21.360 I've got lots of complaints but yeah this stuff even 1121 01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:25.570 the tribes can link to MKUltra if one carefully examines 1122 01:00:25.610 --> 01:00:31.610 the circumstantial and the forensic recreations from the accounting just 1123 01:00:31.650 --> 01:00:35.809 based on payments made but again only really one dimension 1124 01:00:35.829 --> 01:00:40.400 of the story is revealed in that way but that's 1125 01:00:40.420 --> 01:00:42.440 why that's such a deep deep deep rabbit hole if 1126 01:00:42.460 --> 01:00:43.539 you're serious. 1127 01:00:44.860 --> 01:00:48.639 Anyway, Danny, I was going to throw this in here. 1128 01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:52.809 I just found this out on Twitter, scrolling it. 1129 01:00:54.150 --> 01:00:58.630 A few episodes ago, we discussed GGB as being the 1130 01:00:58.670 --> 01:01:05.119 dumbest criminal ever with his admissions about the Tupac Shakur shooting. 1131 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.820 Well, his lawyer was just found dead at his home. 1132 01:01:10.460 --> 01:01:14.539 Whoa, wait a minute. Did you just say KPD's lawyer 1133 01:01:14.579 --> 01:01:15.119 was found dead? 1134 01:01:15.909 --> 01:01:20.090 Yeah, Michael Sanford, the prominent Las Vegas attorney who represented 1135 01:01:20.130 --> 01:01:23.780 many high-profile clients over his career, has died. Sources confirm 1136 01:01:23.780 --> 01:01:28.699 213 investigates on Friday. This is from KTNF News in 1137 01:01:28.739 --> 01:01:32.860 Las Vegas, Channel 13. Sam, 55, was found dead in 1138 01:01:32.900 --> 01:01:35.210 his home

as of Friday afternoon. His cause of death 1139 01:01:35.250 --> 01:01:39.730 has not been released. Most recently, Sam gained natural attention 1140 01:01:39.829 --> 01:01:41.909 as a lawyer for Dwayne Kiffey D. Davis, who was 1141 01:01:41.949 --> 01:01:45.289 found guilty in August 2017. of orchestrating the 1996 murder 1142 01:01:45.309 --> 01:01:49.050 of rap legend Tupac Shakur. Oh, yeah. And he took 1143 01:01:49.070 --> 01:01:49.969 the case pro bono. 1144 01:01:50.809 --> 01:01:53.659 Yeah, but here's the problem. He's in on a lot 1145 01:01:53.699 --> 01:01:57.179 of stuff, and I guarantee you this much about that case, 1146 01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:01.400 for sure. We are not getting the complete story and 1147 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:05.019 the guilty parties in reality. I think TBD might have 1148 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:08.800 been a driver, might have been involved, but I'm telling 1149 01:02:08.820 --> 01:02:12.679 you now, the guilty parties have not been taking the 1150 01:02:12.699 --> 01:02:15.199 task on that case. Danny, I muted you just because 1151 01:02:15.219 --> 01:02:18.059 of the noise, but here you are back. If you 1152 01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:20.300 want to comment on the KPD thing, that is pretty 1153 01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:23.730 wild that his lawyer is dead at 55 in his home. 1154 01:02:23.789 --> 01:02:25.909 But go ahead, Danny. 1155 01:02:27.150 --> 01:02:30.710 I'm not, I've not followed that case. I mean, I 1156 01:02:30.750 --> 01:02:34.010 know about the murders, but I've never really followed the trials. 1157 01:02:34.130 --> 01:02:36.980 I know that something came up recently, but that is 1158 01:02:37.019 --> 01:02:41.150 kind of odd that the attorney showed up dead. But 1159 01:02:41.170 --> 01:02:43.429 I got a question, something you mentioned when you were 1160 01:02:43.469 --> 01:02:47.400 kind of going on your expressing about the MKUltra. Did 1161 01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:50.420 you say New York brothels? Did I hear you correctly? 1162 01:02:50.659 --> 01:02:51.039 Correct. 1163 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:53.159 Really? 1164 01:02:53.239 --> 01:03:01.530 Because, interesting, I forgot about this, but my son and daughter-in-law, 1165 01:03:01.570 --> 01:03:04.590 they lived in San Francisco in the North Beach area 1166 01:03:04.929 --> 01:03:08.929 a few years back. And then my son goes, have 1167 01:03:08.949 --> 01:03:11.690 you ever heard? He called me up because, you know, 1168 01:03:11.710 --> 01:03:16.010 it's kind of into the stuff he goes. You ever 1169 01:03:16.070 --> 01:03:18.739 heard of Operation Midnight Climax? 1170 01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:19.440 Yes. 1171 01:03:19.619 --> 01:03:20.820 Exactly. 1172 01:03:20.840 --> 01:03:21.480 Okay. 1173 01:03:21.780 --> 01:03:22.099 Yes. 1174 01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.000 Here's the thing. I don't know if I told you 1175 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:29.980 this on the show before, but the address, he literally 1176 01:03:30.099 --> 01:03:32.719 was a block and a half from the address where 1177 01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:34.389 that had taken place. 1178 01:03:35.650 --> 01:03:39.300 Right. Now, that's where, quite frankly, the hookers would dose 1179 01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:40.539 the Johns. 1180 01:03:41.619 --> 01:03:41.900 With. 1181 01:03:42.420 --> 01:03:47.329 Yeah. With acid and other things, including what later on becomes, 1182 01:03:47.369 --> 01:03:51.170 you know, the truth serum mix and everything else that 1183 01:03:51.190 --> 01:03:55.510 the CIA would wind up using. and that operation, I 1184 01:03:55.550 --> 01:03:58.789 believe midnight climax started under the OSS before even the 1185 01:03:58.829 --> 01:04:03.389 creation of the CIA. Um, yes, you know, and it 1186 01:04:03.429 --> 01:04:07.309 was then adapted and folded into the MK ultra experiments, 1187 01:04:08.130 --> 01:04:11.659 but they did that with, you know, literal, um, constant, 1188 01:04:11.980 --> 01:04:15.360 you know, New York brothels that were standing businesses, but 1189 01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:18.860 also just sort of took over hotels, uh, and did 1190 01:04:18.900 --> 01:04:22.059 the same thing because you automatically had adjoining rooms, uh, 1191 01:04:22.860 --> 01:04:30.239 where observations could be set up without being noticed, right? 1192 01:04:32.829 --> 01:04:36.530 Surreptitious invasions of that privacy, and they actually filmed and 1193 01:04:36.570 --> 01:04:41.210 recorded a lot of that stuff. Now, none of that 1194 01:04:41.650 --> 01:04:44.989 footage or sound or any of that stuff has ever surfaced, 1195 01:04:45.110 --> 01:04:52.119 but I'm quite convinced based on various corroborating testimonies that 1196 01:04:52.139 --> 01:04:55.150 were completely independent of each other at the time that 1197 01:04:55.190 --> 01:04:59.250 those recordings and films existed. Now, where they are or 1198 01:04:59.289 --> 01:05:01.679 if they still exist to this day, I would imagine 1199 01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.179 they do, but they're probably somewhere in a CIA vault. 1200 01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:09.119 Okay, speaking about film, being filmed. 1201 01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:09.579 Yes. 1202 01:05:10.059 --> 01:05:13.000 And if you've heard of this, and I actually saw 1203 01:05:13.019 --> 01:05:16.079 the video, and I believe it was on a 60 1204 01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:21.460 Minutes episode. I'm going back years. 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Pick up your copy of In Denial 1232 01:07:55.760 --> 01:07:58.829 at Amazon.com in digital or physical form. 1233 01:07:58.849 --> 01:08:00.869 You the first double nigga I ever met in my life. 1234 01:08:00.989 --> 01:08:03.030 Revelation through conversation. 1235 01:08:17.369 --> 01:08:26.760 I stole money from my grandma I got straight D's 1236 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:33.659 I had a chance to go to college but I 1237 01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:38.180 smoked a Dewey If I knew. 1238 01:08:43.460 --> 01:08:50.630 Be doing well you believe that. 1239 01:08:50.310 --> 01:08:56.850 Shit well then you're dumb as H-E-double-L. 1240 01:08:57.670 --> 01:09:03.220 Well, more and more people put it down But we. 1241 01:09:02.979 --> 01:09:08.079 Got that reefer madness and it's getting around Well, what 1242 01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:12.840 are those lies coming out my TV? Cause no one 1243 01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:16.920 ever died from smoking weed Yeah. 1244 01:09:20.489 --> 01:09:21.989 You're kidding me. 1245 01:09:25.010 --> 01:09:26.010 You're kidding me. 1246 01:09:26.680 --> 01:09:28.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1247 01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:30.500 You're kidding me. 1248 01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:40.000 Well, when they found out that it wouldn't hurt you. 1249 01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:52.529 They had to find another way to trick ya And 1250 01:09:52.590 --> 01:09:55.409 the best thing they could come up. 1251 01:09:55.149 --> 01:10:04.180 With is It's. 1252 01:10:01.779 --> 01:10:07.539 A gateway drug and leads to other substances. 1253 01:10:10.229 --> 01:10:14.979 You're kidding me. You're kidding me. 1254 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:15.880 You're kidding me. 1255 01:10:24.149 --> 01:10:29.270 Well, more and more people put it down But we 1256 01:10:29.340 --> 01:10:34.500 got that Reaper madness and it's getting around Well, what 1257 01:10:34.659 --> 01:10:37.859 are these lies coming out my TV? 1258 01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:39.359 Cause no one. 1259 01:10:39.539 --> 01:10:43.430 Ever died from smoking weed. 1260 01:10:42.770 --> 01:10:52.640 Yeah The Ocelli Effect is sponsored by WallStreetWindow.com and listeners 1261 01:10:53.100 --> 01:10:53.500 like you. 1262 01:10:53.619 --> 01:10:58.239 And now, the most underrated voice in all media. 1263 01:10:58.880 --> 01:11:00.359 Chuck Ocelli. 1264 01:11:00.619 --> 01:11:03.520 All right, second and final segment of the Friday Night 1265 01:11:03.659 --> 01:11:07.180 Open Mic starts now. And sorry, you did hear the 1266 01:11:07.220 --> 01:11:10.199 computer getting stuck in a loop for a couple seconds 1267 01:11:10.270 --> 01:11:13.069 during the break there. But I had to correct it 1268 01:11:13.130 --> 01:11:15.430 in real time, and I keep these things running, so... 1269 01:11:16.010 --> 01:11:18.909 It is what it is. You also heard from Cirrus Minor, 1270 01:11:18.930 --> 01:11:21.649 the song You're Kidding Me. And, you know, that got 1271 01:11:21.689 --> 01:11:23.569 people thinking that I was some kind of big pothead 1272 01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:27.180 for a couple of years. And I'm not. I, you know, 1273 01:11:27.699 --> 01:11:32.199 I have smoked weed. Yeah, I do on occasion utilize 1274 01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:35.479 it to help with PTSD. But quite honestly, since I 1275 01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:40.060 did the mega doses of psilocybin, I don't even pick 1276 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:43.220 up my monthly little piece of weed anymore. I don't 1277 01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:44.659 need it. What's that? 1278 01:11:45.579 --> 01:11:46.439 Do you inhale? 1279 01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:51.479 Of course I did. What's the point? Otherwise, I always 1280 01:11:51.539 --> 01:11:55.520 found that so stupid that anybody even seriously entertained that 1281 01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:58.380 like that was anything more than a joke when Clinton 1282 01:11:58.399 --> 01:11:59.119 said it. Yeah. 1283 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:01.680 I mean, it was like, you know, the funny thing was, 1284 01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:06.380 is that people who are absolutely clueless as how to 1285 01:12:06.420 --> 01:12:10.430 partake of such a substance. Actually bought it. Well, he 1286 01:12:10.470 --> 01:12:11.189 didn't inhale. 1287 01:12:11.850 --> 01:12:12.069 Yeah. 1288 01:12:12.149 --> 01:12:12.430

Okay. 1289 01:12:12.449 --> 01:12:12.689 Yeah. 1290 01:12:12.729 --> 01:12:12.909 Right. 1291 01:12:13.729 --> 01:12:14.710 Quit wasting my dope. 1292 01:12:14.930 --> 01:12:17.289 Here's the other thing. First of all, yeah, you're wasting 1293 01:12:17.329 --> 01:12:21.069 dope because it ain't, you know, it ain't incense. But secondly, 1294 01:12:21.750 --> 01:12:23.949 you know, if you're in a small room, which usually 1295 01:12:23.989 --> 01:12:25.609 you were when you were smoking weed, that used to 1296 01:12:25.649 --> 01:12:27.069 be the kind of thing you did in the basement 1297 01:12:27.100 --> 01:12:31.239 and such, you know, you're going to get some of 1298 01:12:31.300 --> 01:12:34.319 it anyway, whether you inhale it straight from the spliff 1299 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:40.369 or not, man. I mean, you know, you could pound 1300 01:12:40.409 --> 01:12:42.109 that J or you're going to inhale it in the 1301 01:12:42.149 --> 01:12:42.890 room anyway. 1302 01:12:42.949 --> 01:12:45.569 Hey, which brings up a question. You know, on Bill 1303 01:12:45.609 --> 01:12:48.729 Maher's show, they sit back and he'll occasionally smoke a 1304 01:12:48.770 --> 01:12:52.149 blunt or on Joe Rogan. How do these guys get 1305 01:12:52.189 --> 01:12:55.869 around the secondhand smoke laws and do that? 1306 01:12:56.409 --> 01:13:00.670 Well, when he does his, what is it? I forget 1307 01:13:01.170 --> 01:13:03.970 his podcast, Bill Maher. He's doing it in his house. 1308 01:13:05.130 --> 01:13:07.489 It was still there. He's got other employees there. 1309 01:13:08.569 --> 01:13:11.560 Yeah, but that's the thing. It's in his house and 1310 01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:12.880 you can easily have. 1311 01:13:13.220 --> 01:13:15.779 But being in his house, he's still because he has 1312 01:13:15.819 --> 01:13:18.600 a business and because that business is taking place in 1313 01:13:18.659 --> 01:13:21.500 his house, he has, you know, there are regulations. I'm 1314 01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:25.020 just curious as how these guys get away with smoking. 1315 01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:28.829 on their programs with other technicians and stuff working there 1316 01:13:29.250 --> 01:13:31.310 and they don't have to follow that's the reason you 1317 01:13:31.329 --> 01:13:32.890 can't smoke a cigarette in. 1318 01:13:32.850 --> 01:13:35.130 A bar because they're employees. 1319 01:13:34.649 --> 01:13:38.090 Secondhand smoke and other employees yeah yeah i'm just wondering 1320 01:13:38.109 --> 01:13:39.909 how the fuck they get around it well. 1321 01:13:39.829 --> 01:13:43.560 Critical there's exceptions there because if you have a family 1322 01:13:43.619 --> 01:13:46.560 business you as a family you can agree remember that 1323 01:13:46.579 --> 01:13:48.760 was one of the exceptions that if it was a 1324 01:13:48.819 --> 01:13:51.439 family-run business everybody was part of the family and everybody 1325 01:13:51.479 --> 01:13:54.470 agreed it was fine or at least the you

know Hey, look, 1326 01:13:54.890 --> 01:13:56.930 I just I'll fire anybody that doesn't want to be 1327 01:13:56.970 --> 01:13:58.489 here for it. 1328 01:13:58.710 --> 01:13:58.949 Right. 1329 01:14:00.310 --> 01:14:02.760 And that's that. Now, when he does his club was 1330 01:14:02.779 --> 01:14:06.659 a club random, I think he calls it. I don't know. Yeah, 1331 01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:09.060 I don't know if he actually needs the employees there 1332 01:14:09.100 --> 01:14:14.909 when he's actually smoking. You know, plus there was exemptions 1333 01:14:14.970 --> 01:14:19.050 to performances, by the way, in some states like New York. 1334 01:14:19.550 --> 01:14:21.649 You know, you couldn't smoke in a theater or a 1335 01:14:21.680 --> 01:14:24.979 comedy club. But if you were on stage, technically you could. 1336 01:14:26.090 --> 01:14:30.630 Yeah, I don't know. It just kills me the lengths 1337 01:14:30.729 --> 01:14:34.750 that government will go, but yet the lengths that government 1338 01:14:34.829 --> 01:14:35.569 will allow. 1339 01:14:35.869 --> 01:14:38.319 But remember Dave Chappelle when he was going around to 1340 01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:40.340 New York clubs and he was literally just smoking a 1341 01:14:40.380 --> 01:14:43.319 cigarette on stage and people turned around and were like, oh, 1342 01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:46.359 how dare you? You're exposing the whole crowd to your 1343 01:14:46.420 --> 01:14:47.939 cigarette smoke. Oh, yeah. 1344 01:14:48.220 --> 01:14:50.760 We even had an exemption on that to put on 1345 01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:53.590 a performance in a high school one time. It was 1346 01:14:53.649 --> 01:14:55.510 one of those you can't smoke on campus things, and 1347 01:14:55.569 --> 01:14:58.729 it's like, well, but you can in the performance. It's weird. 1348 01:14:59.409 --> 01:15:01.560 Well, that's correct, and that's the thing is that in 1349 01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:04.760 New York especially, I know, that even in a place 1350 01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:07.399 that didn't allow smoking, if you were on a stage 1351 01:15:07.539 --> 01:15:11.180 performing and you smoked, it became part of the performance. Therefore, 1352 01:15:12.060 --> 01:15:16.140 it's not part of just regular interaction and activity, right? 1353 01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:20.340 Even in bars, there are musicians who will smoke on stage. 1354 01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:23.140 People bitch, right? But the truth is they have an 1355 01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:25.659 exemption in a lot of places. Not every place, but 1356 01:15:25.699 --> 01:15:28.659 in a lot of places they do. And also the 1357 01:15:28.699 --> 01:15:32.159 private club exemption, as you well know, was one of 1358 01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:34.380 the things that went on for a long time where, okay, well, 1359 01:15:34.399 --> 01:15:36.920 we'll sell you a temporary membership, you know, for a dollar. 1360 01:15:37.979 --> 01:15:42.420 Oh, yeah. Every nice pool that I used to go 1361 01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:45.399 to became a private club when I started the no 1362 01:15:45.420 --> 01:15:46.000 smoking crowd. 1363 01:15:46.380 --> 01:15:48.500 Sorry, you can't play here unless you're part of the 1364 01:15:48.539 --> 01:15:50.619 private club. Now, if you want to be part of 1365 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.310 the private club... And then they had to issue actual 1366 01:15:55.369 --> 01:15:57.770 membership cards, remember, because they were just taking it and saying, well, 1367 01:15:57.800 --> 01:15:59.340 these people are all signed up. Oh, yes. 1368 01:15:59.460 --> 01:16:01.760 Laminating machines went through the roof. 1369 01:16:01.859 --> 01:16:02.569 You got it. 1370 01:16:02.579 --> 01:16:03.579 As soon as that happened. 1371 01:16:03.899 --> 01:16:05.439 You got it. I think we talked about this two 1372 01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:07.300 or three weeks ago on the show, actually, didn't we? 1373 01:16:08.100 --> 01:16:11.630 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Every bar in the state had to 1374 01:16:11.670 --> 01:16:14.189 go private, which was, you know, and the only reason 1375 01:16:14.229 --> 01:16:19.239 they had to do that was because the legislatures exempted 1376 01:16:19.279 --> 01:16:20.670 their country clubs. 1377 01:16:20.890 --> 01:16:21.149 Right. 1378 01:16:21.329 --> 01:16:24.909 And that's created the loophole that then became something else, 1379 01:16:25.029 --> 01:16:29.689 which I always find ironic and funny. But I liked 1380 01:16:29.750 --> 01:16:31.890 it better when you had smoke-filled bars, to be honest 1381 01:16:31.909 --> 01:16:34.539 with you. Even when I was a kid, I felt 1382 01:16:34.560 --> 01:16:37.260 more comfortable in the smoke-filled bars before I started smoking, 1383 01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:39.460 which was only a few years there because I started 1384 01:16:39.500 --> 01:16:43.399 when I was 12 and haven't really stopped since. Anyways, 1385 01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:45.800 Jimmy James has been waiting on the line, and also 1386 01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:47.899 he tried to speak before and couldn't, but I got 1387 01:16:47.939 --> 01:16:51.770 a feeling we're going to hear him this time. Let's see. Jimmy, 1388 01:16:51.869 --> 01:16:52.210 you there? 1389 01:16:55.510 --> 01:16:56.899 Yeah, I can hear him right now. 1390 01:16:57.300 --> 01:16:59.479 Oh, I can. Okay, BP, you can hear him, yeah? 1391 01:16:59.500 --> 01:16:59.579 Yeah. 1392 01:17:01.569 --> 01:17:04.449 Yeah sorry Jimmy you are this like vague voice on 1393 01:17:04.529 --> 01:17:08.670 like you know an EVP recording almost like I'm listening 1394 01:17:08.710 --> 01:17:12.789 for the ghost voices on my board which is cranked 1395 01:17:12.890 --> 01:17:16.729 up and nobody else can hear you but me when 1396 01:17:16.750 --> 01:17:19.449 you were talking before I swear to God BP probably 1397 01:17:19.489 --> 01:17:21.520 heard nothing from you before when you were trying to 1398 01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:25.460 talk but please go ahead now

that was. 1399 01:17:25.180 --> 01:17:29.079 My bad I was using telepathy I assumed everyone else 1400 01:17:29.140 --> 01:17:31.340 could hear Chuck Oh, I'm sorry. 1401 01:17:31.420 --> 01:17:32.250 I forget about that, too. 1402 01:17:32.260 --> 01:17:34.319 It was just so low in the background that it 1403 01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:36.619 was impossible to— you could hear him talking, but you couldn't 1404 01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:37.359 hear what he was saying. 1405 01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:39.880 Oh, okay. I actually understood him, but I knew he 1406 01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:42.479 was real super low. So I'm glad you called back in, 1407 01:17:42.500 --> 01:17:44.539 and we can hear you now. So go ahead, Jimmy. 1408 01:17:44.579 --> 01:17:45.380 The floor is yours. 1409 01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:51.729 Yeah, well, that whole Olsen thing was pretty tragic. 1410 01:17:52.510 --> 01:17:52.869 Yes, sir. 1411 01:17:54.619 --> 01:17:58.279 Someone needs to knock those, lock those crazy bitches up. 1412 01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:00.640 How many more people are they going to let go 1413 01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:04.239 around Dosen? What was that young actor's name? It's a 1414 01:18:04.300 --> 01:18:05.579 shame they killed that guy. 1415 01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:11.300 I hate to say this, but which one? You know? 1416 01:18:12.859 --> 01:18:13.560 That's true. 1417 01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:16.380 I guess the bodies are piling up. But the kid 1418 01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:20.779 from the Patriot movie, eh, it's too bad they whacked him. 1419 01:18:23.010 --> 01:18:23.470 Yeah, I.... 1420 01:18:25.189 --> 01:18:25.409 Who? 1421 01:18:27.630 --> 01:18:31.149 No, no, no. He's still on. No, wait. 1422 01:18:31.170 --> 01:18:33.020 Who was the guy that played the Joker? 1423 01:18:33.029 --> 01:18:36.960 Heath Ledger. Heath Ledger. You mean Heath Ledger? 1424 01:18:37.159 --> 01:18:39.859 Yeah, didn't he play the son in The Patriot? 1425 01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:43.229 He sure did. Is that who you're talking about there, Jimmy? 1426 01:18:44.829 --> 01:18:49.970 Yeah, Heath Ledger, who was dating Bill. 1427 01:18:50.539 --> 01:18:51.039 Twins. 1428 01:18:52.859 --> 01:18:59.739 You're talking about the Olsen dosings. I caught a little bit. 1429 01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:02.989 I figured it out. I know who you're talking about. 1430 01:19:03.430 --> 01:19:03.989 Yeah, yeah. 1431 01:19:04.010 --> 01:19:07.409 Some real psychos, man. Some real psycho. 1432 01:19:06.930 --> 01:19:07.449 Chicks, huh? 1433 01:19:08.170 --> 01:19:10.890 Oh, they did a lot of stuff pretty wild. And 1434 01:19:10.930 --> 01:19:13.649 I mean, there's still unknown people that, like I said, 1435 01:19:13.710 --> 01:19:16.609 were dosed, you know, in that like Operation Midnight, like 1436 01:19:16.630 --> 01:19:20.390 Danny was talking about. That's just one of those things where, again, 1437 01:19:20.949 --> 01:19:24.550 they had, you know, prostitutes or, you know, people posing 1438 01:19:24.590 --> 01:19:25.510 as prostitutes. 1439 01:19:25.529 --> 01:19:29.510 That's child's play. I'm talking about Operation the Olsen Twins. 1440 01:19:30.710 --> 01:19:30.810 OK. 1441 01:19:30.829 --> 01:19:35.649 Don't you know, Kate and Mary Shanaynay, them, the damage 1442 01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:39.880 they did. Way more than MKUltra. Way more dead people. 1443 01:19:42.539 --> 01:19:43.319 Tell me about it, Jimmy. 1444 01:19:43.640 --> 01:19:43.859 Good. 1445 01:19:46.380 --> 01:19:46.600 What? 1446 01:19:47.460 --> 01:19:48.340 Common knowledge. 1447 01:19:48.460 --> 01:19:49.340 I thought you knew. 1448 01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:53.729 Other people are listening, Jimmy. I don't want to sit 1449 01:19:53.779 --> 01:19:55.479 here and just say yeah to you. I want you 1450 01:19:55.510 --> 01:19:58.729 to lay out the story for anybody else listening. Please. 1451 01:20:00.590 --> 01:20:03.630 Oh, I think anyone that's watched GMZ in the last 1452 01:20:03.729 --> 01:20:07.539 quarter century knows what's up. You got to do some 1453 01:20:07.579 --> 01:20:10.960 catching up. That's all, Chuck. Chuck, now I got something 1454 01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:14.539 very important to tell you that you need to always remember. 1455 01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:15.100 Yes, sir. 1456 01:20:15.359 --> 01:20:18.300 There's something that you could do, that I could do, 1457 01:20:19.369 --> 01:20:22.390 that BP cannot do, and Danny cannot do. 1458 01:20:22.770 --> 01:20:23.430 Oh, okay. 1459 01:20:24.729 --> 01:20:25.670 Guess what that is. 1460 01:20:27.430 --> 01:20:29.050 I don't even want to guess. Go ahead. Tell me. 1461 01:20:32.510 --> 01:20:38.640 Well, New Jersey, you were part Formerly of New France, Michigan, 1462 01:20:38.739 --> 01:20:41.739 I was part of New France. We can run for 1463 01:20:41.800 --> 01:20:46.479 president of France. Did you know that? Any territory that 1464 01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.789 used to be part of the French Empire, we technically 1465 01:20:49.930 --> 01:20:51.770 could run for president of France. 1466 01:20:52.390 --> 01:20:53.689 No, I was not aware of that. 1467 01:20:55.630 --> 01:20:56.949 See, it's important. 1468 01:20:57.550 --> 01:20:58.670 Yeah. 1469 01:20:59.289 --> 01:21:02.729 I don't know. BP wasn't from Tennessee. I don't think 1470 01:21:02.770 --> 01:21:05.020 that was ever part of France, but I don't know. 1471 01:21:05.739 --> 01:21:07.359 Well, I don't know, because that was part of that 1472 01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:11.789 purchase that was, right? So that's part of that purchase. 1473 01:21:11.810 --> 01:21:14.350 Didn't they buy that from France, that land, like the 1474 01:21:14.369 --> 01:21:15.369 Louisiana purchase? 1475 01:21:15.390 --> 01:21:18.100 Yeah, that was from France, but I was born up 1476 01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:21.380 in the Northwest. Oh, okay. I was born in Canada, so. 1477 01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:26.560 Oh, okay. Yeah, no, he wasn't born in Tennessee then. But, 1478 01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:29.920

you know, the Louisiana Purchase, I mean, that was what 1479 01:21:29.939 --> 01:21:32.510 we bought from France anyway. So that territory, that whole 1480 01:21:32.569 --> 01:21:35.909 section of territory was formerly owned by the French Crown, right? 1481 01:21:40.090 --> 01:21:46.939 No, we just kind of helped ourselves to what would 1482 01:21:46.979 --> 01:21:53.899 become Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, etc. 1483 01:21:55.060 --> 01:21:55.380 Okay. 1484 01:21:55.600 --> 01:22:00.079 The French territories were a little bit more. 1485 01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:02.659 West-ish. 1486 01:22:03.460 --> 01:22:03.779 Okay. 1487 01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.850 And north, and in our case, far north. 1488 01:22:09.020 --> 01:22:13.090 Well, see, New Jersey, you know, it's funny because at 1489 01:22:13.189 --> 01:22:15.329 one point I was well up on this part of 1490 01:22:15.350 --> 01:22:18.850 the history, and it's just, I'm not recalling it. But, 1491 01:22:19.069 --> 01:22:21.890 I mean, I know at one point it was Dutch, 1492 01:22:22.109 --> 01:22:24.649 and at one point it was English. But I wasn't 1493 01:22:24.710 --> 01:22:28.220 aware that it was actually fully, you know, claimed by 1494 01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:28.899 the French, too. 1495 01:22:29.979 --> 01:22:31.380 Yeah. 1496 01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:35.260 So check it out. Well, back used to be the 1497 01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:37.340 capital of New France. 1498 01:22:37.779 --> 01:22:38.279 New France. 1499 01:22:38.300 --> 01:22:41.590 That's not too far from you, really, or where you 1500 01:22:41.609 --> 01:22:42.630 were in New Jersey. 1501 01:22:43.010 --> 01:22:43.229 Right. 1502 01:22:43.489 --> 01:22:46.720 Okay. That makes sense. Yeah, Montreal and all that, that's 1503 01:22:46.779 --> 01:22:49.779 not too far, because that's the actual literal, you know, 1504 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:55.579 underground pipeline for people trafficking back then. Not necessarily, you know, 1505 01:22:55.659 --> 01:22:59.569 they apply that to prostitution only today, but people used 1506 01:22:59.609 --> 01:23:03.890 to be trafficked for various reasons, and sometimes voluntarily, and 1507 01:23:03.909 --> 01:23:08.430 they would come through that corridor from Montreal to New York, essentially, 1508 01:23:08.449 --> 01:23:11.750 with a stopover in New Jersey. So, yeah, I can 1509 01:23:11.770 --> 01:23:13.350 see how that could be part of a new France 1510 01:23:13.409 --> 01:23:15.489 at one point, but I wasn't– I don't know. I'm 1511 01:23:15.550 --> 01:23:18.930 not recalling that part of New Jersey's history. I should 1512 01:23:18.970 --> 01:23:19.869 know it. Yeah, go ahead. 1513 01:23:21.310 --> 01:23:24.539 Quick note. The Louisiana Purchase, all the lands were west 1514 01:23:24.619 --> 01:23:25.300 of the Mississippi. 1515 01:23:25.960 --> 01:23:27.060 Oh, right, right. 1516 01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:35.449 But in regards to New France, colonized by France, North America, 1534, 1517 01:23:35.449 --> 01:23:41.020 ending– with the cession of New France to Great Britain 1518 01:23:41.060 --> 01:23:41.840 and Spain in 1763. 1519 01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:45.289 Now, see, I did not know Spain owned Port of Canada. 1520 01:23:45.670 --> 01:23:48.050 Yes. Shit you learn. 1521 01:23:48.689 --> 01:23:52.250 Yeah, okay. See, now that sounds familiar, but I just 1522 01:23:52.289 --> 01:23:55.470 don't remember the French controlling it. But, okay. Anyway, so 1523 01:23:55.510 --> 01:23:58.439 we could run for president of France if we were ever, 1524 01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:02.420 if any territory we were born in was ever part 1525 01:24:02.619 --> 01:24:05.239 of the French Empire, so to speak. Is that right, Jimmy? 1526 01:24:07.340 --> 01:24:08.640 Yeah, ain't that a kick? 1527 01:24:09.380 --> 01:24:11.739 That is a kick. I did not know that at all. 1528 01:24:12.220 --> 01:24:15.409 I would have thought, you know, Canadians, you know, because 1529 01:24:15.449 --> 01:24:17.609 of their use of French and all that, I mean, 1530 01:24:17.630 --> 01:24:21.390 that still prevails today. You know, French-Canadian is a little 1531 01:24:21.430 --> 01:24:24.630 different than proper French. But nonetheless, I mean, there are 1532 01:24:24.649 --> 01:24:26.989 places where you have to have signs in both languages, 1533 01:24:27.210 --> 01:24:29.829 English and French, and they speak French commonly. 1534 01:24:30.989 --> 01:24:33.600 That is the one, that it would be one rule. 1535 01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:35.619 We would have to speak French fluently. 1536 01:24:36.649 --> 01:24:39.409 Oh, so it basically... Now, wait a minute. Wait a minute. 1537 01:24:40.029 --> 01:24:43.529 I've done a search assist. It says, no, you cannot 1538 01:24:43.569 --> 01:24:46.149 run for president of France just by living in an 1539 01:24:46.289 --> 01:24:47.750 area once ruled by France. 1540 01:24:48.069 --> 01:24:48.189 Oh. 1541 01:24:48.380 --> 01:24:50.460 Candidates must hold French citizenship. 1542 01:24:50.500 --> 01:24:53.899 Well, then you're contradicting Bill Clinton. 1543 01:24:54.500 --> 01:24:56.079 Not by living. 1544 01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:57.220 There, being born there. 1545 01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:01.140 You have to have French citizenship. 1546 01:25:02.300 --> 01:25:05.550 He's looking at the qualifications for running for president of France. 1547 01:25:05.649 --> 01:25:06.060 But go ahead. 1548 01:25:08.649 --> 01:25:13.880 Well, I'll defer to Slick Willie's interview on C-SPAN I've 1549 01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:17.640 seen from about 20 years ago. Something tells me if 1550 01:25:17.699 --> 01:25:20.039 he looked into it and he said it, he knows 1551 01:25:20.060 --> 01:25:24.159 what the hell he's talking about. He probably didn't consider it. 1552 01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:25.979 The guy that didn't inhale? 1553 01:25:26.479 --> 01:25:27.739 Come on, Jimmy, you did better. 1554 01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.739 I mean, and Bill Clinton, by the

way, in my estimation, 1555 01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:32.760 I don't think I've ever said this publicly, but in 1556 01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.140 my estimation, you know how I've often said that I 1557 01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:39.470 think Trump is suffering from the long-term effects of... of 1558 01:25:39.909 --> 01:25:45.600 venereal disease? I'm pretty certain Bill Clinton is too. You know, 1559 01:25:45.619 --> 01:25:48.390 he's clearly another guy suffering from the longer term effects 1560 01:25:48.430 --> 01:25:52.880 of untreated syphilis. And I, you know, at a certain point, 1561 01:25:52.920 --> 01:25:57.149 he becomes completely unreliable in anything he says, not just 1562 01:25:57.159 --> 01:25:59.510 because he's lying as a politician, which he always did. 1563 01:26:00.170 --> 01:26:03.609 But but because I think in his own mind, things 1564 01:26:03.670 --> 01:26:06.489 are getting scrambled because, yeah, it starts like, you know, 1565 01:26:06.529 --> 01:26:09.989 causing brain damage after a while. Even if the syphilis 1566 01:26:10.050 --> 01:26:12.329 is gone from your system, it continues to do damage 1567 01:26:12.369 --> 01:26:12.829 to your brain. 1568 01:26:13.930 --> 01:26:18.989 Not only that, there's an endorsement requirement. It says you 1569 01:26:19.010 --> 01:26:24.850 must gather the signatures or endorsements of 500 elected representatives, 1570 01:26:24.890 --> 01:26:29.149 such as mayors, from at least 30 different departments or 1571 01:26:29.340 --> 01:26:32.899 overseas territories with no more than a tenth of them 1572 01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.399 coming from the same single department or territory. 1573 01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:39.020 Repeat at the end of the day the only question, 1574 01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:47.399 is it or is it not? technically possible. I say 1575 01:26:47.420 --> 01:26:48.180 it is. 1576 01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:50.340 Only if you have citizenship. 1577 01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:54.319 See, we would. 1578 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:55.439 Have to do all kinds of stuff to. 1579 01:26:55.460 --> 01:26:58.300 You could be from anywhere. You could be from anywhere 1580 01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:01.619 in the world. As long as you have French citizenship, 1581 01:27:02.149 --> 01:27:07.369 you're 18, you've fulfilled the requirements of the National Service Code, 1582 01:27:07.449 --> 01:27:12.390 whatever that is, and you have the endorsements, and... You 1583 01:27:12.430 --> 01:27:16.380 cannot be under legal guardianship, deprived of your civic voting rights, 1584 01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:19.619 or barred due to specific legal or tax offenses. 1585 01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:23.739 What about the skunks? 1586 01:27:25.699 --> 01:27:31.329 Skunks? Pepe Le Pew? 1587 01:27:33.350 --> 01:27:33.750 I don't know. 1588 01:27:33.810 --> 01:27:36.090 Tell me. Tell me about the skunks. 1589 01:27:36.109 --> 01:27:38.439 Tell me. Well, I don't know. 1590 01:27:38.449 --> 01:27:40.300 I'm asking. 1591 01:27:40.340 --> 01:27:41.119 Can they run? 1592 01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.640 If he's got French citizenship and can get the endorsements, yes. 1593 01:27:47.100 --> 01:27:50.539 Well, if Pepe Le Pew can run, Jimmy James Le 1594 01:27:50.579 --> 01:27:51.279 Pew can run. 1595 01:27:51.859 --> 01:27:55.659 Maybe. And you wouldn't even be accused of, you know, 1596 01:27:55.899 --> 01:27:58.779 sexual assault or anything. So, you know, Pepe Le Pew. 1597 01:28:00.729 --> 01:28:04.010 I always loved Dave Chappelle's view on that. You know, 1598 01:28:04.069 --> 01:28:06.029 as a kid, Pepe Le Pew is cool like that. 1599 01:28:06.770 --> 01:28:08.850 And then he's watching it with his kids going, oh, 1600 01:28:08.989 --> 01:28:13.510 this doesn't look good. I always cracked up Pepe Le Pew. 1601 01:28:13.529 --> 01:28:16.289 What kind of rapist is this? Because he is all 1602 01:28:16.350 --> 01:28:18.250 about getting all over that cat because she has a 1603 01:28:18.270 --> 01:28:23.609 white stripe. And she is definitely saying no and no 1604 01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:26.779 don't mean no to Pepe Le Pew, you know. So 1605 01:28:27.340 --> 01:28:29.619 I don't know. I don't know if he'd be a 1606 01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:30.579 good candidate either. 1607 01:28:31.829 --> 01:28:34.520 Well, back in Pepe Le Pew's day, I mean, to 1608 01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:37.229 give him the benefit, back in his day, it was 1609 01:28:37.319 --> 01:28:39.970 called wooing. Now it's called shoving. 1610 01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:49.399 Right. Yeah. Fair enough. Your thoughts, Jimmy? 1611 01:28:52.920 --> 01:28:56.979 Well, it's a shame that the national treasury like Pepe 1612 01:28:57.020 --> 01:29:01.939 doesn't have a chance to What's wrong, France, anyway? You 1613 01:29:01.979 --> 01:29:04.819 do realize that they're, like, burning to the ground. Did 1614 01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:08.750 you see that in the news? Oh, yeah. 1615 01:29:08.770 --> 01:29:10.750 Yeah, the rioting schoolchildren. 1616 01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:14.600 Rioting school children. 1617 01:29:14.939 --> 01:29:17.399 Yeah, that's the whole basis of the riots. 1618 01:29:17.420 --> 01:29:21.880 The students are tired of going to crappy schools, so 1619 01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:23.399 they start a protest. 1620 01:29:23.729 --> 01:29:26.550 How come all the school children. 1621 01:29:25.930 --> 01:29:29.890 Look like 30-year-old Arab men? 1622 01:29:30.489 --> 01:29:36.010 That's strange. It really is. I don't know what to 1623 01:29:36.050 --> 01:29:37.760 make of that, to be honest with you. 1624 01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:41.239 We've got a new law in the UK now. 1625 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.460 On, on porn, certain types of porn. 1626 01:29:46.380 --> 01:29:48.949 And you had until today to get it off your computer. 1627 01:29:49.229 --> 01:29:51.850 Oh, right. I, you know what? I heard about this 1628 01:29:52.250 --> 01:29:54.550 and now what is it like? You're not allowed to 1629 01:29:54.609 --> 01:29:58.250 have

incest porn of any kind or the suggestion of incest. 1630 01:29:58.310 --> 01:30:02.979 So like all those, uh, uh, porno videos out there 1631 01:30:03.020 --> 01:30:05.739 where it's like, you know, step mom gets it on with, uh, 1632 01:30:05.899 --> 01:30:11.220 the son and all that. All that stuff is gone, right? Oh, yeah. 1633 01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:16.680 And it's kind of weird that they outlawed porn that 1634 01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:25.140 depicts anything where anybody can think that they're related, but 1635 01:30:25.340 --> 01:30:28.130 you can still marry your cousin and have kids. 1636 01:30:29.029 --> 01:30:31.329 Right. But if you were getting paid to have sex 1637 01:30:31.350 --> 01:30:36.539 with your cousin on film, people can't watch it. No, no, no, no. Oh, 1638 01:30:36.579 --> 01:30:37.060 I'm sorry. 1639 01:30:37.159 --> 01:30:39.960 See, there's an exemption for that. If you were actually 1640 01:30:40.100 --> 01:30:44.199 in the depiction, this is one of the weirdest laws. 1641 01:30:44.460 --> 01:30:46.979 Let me go over this real quick for you. 1642 01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:48.159 I love this. 1643 01:30:48.640 --> 01:30:53.149 This is from November 6th, 2026. It will be a 1644 01:30:53.189 --> 01:30:57.229 criminal offense in England and Wales to possess or publish 1645 01:30:57.729 --> 01:31:05.770 pornographic images that explicitly and realistically depict Strangulation or suffocation? Right. 1646 01:31:05.810 --> 01:31:08.550 Strangulation. The choking porn thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 1647 01:31:08.829 --> 01:31:13.689 All right. Number two, penetrative sexual activity between people who 1648 01:31:13.829 --> 01:31:18.609 a reasonable person would think are related or pretending to 1649 01:31:18.670 --> 01:31:23.180 be related in a certain way. This includes depictions of 1650 01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:27.979 close familial relatives, such as father and daughter or brother 1651 01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:32.909 and sister, and certain step and foster relationships where one 1652 01:31:32.989 --> 01:31:37.189 person is or pretending to be under 18. Number three, 1653 01:31:38.029 --> 01:31:42.689 sexual activity between at least two people where a reasonable 1654 01:31:42.750 --> 01:31:45.600 person would think at least one person is or is 1655 01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:51.310 pretending to be under 16. Okay. The offenses only capture 1656 01:31:52.170 --> 01:31:55.630 pornography that shows people which appear to a reasonable person 1657 01:31:55.689 --> 01:32:00.420 to be real. The maximum penalty for possession is two 1658 01:32:00.460 --> 01:32:06.850 years for the strangulation and suffocation. or for acts between 1659 01:32:06.930 --> 01:32:13.229 certain relatives. Three years for depicting anything a person who 1660 01:32:13.250 --> 01:32:16.760 is or thought to be under 16. Maximum penalty for 1661 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:21.159 publication for all offenses is five years. This is where 1662 01:32:21.260 --> 01:32:26.409 it gets funny. There are defenses available for those offenses. 1663 01:32:26.869 --> 01:32:29.630 For example, a person may have a defense to the 1664 01:32:29.670 --> 01:32:33.609 possession and publication of offenses if they had not seen 1665 01:32:33.649 --> 01:32:37.260 the image before and did not know or have cause 1666 01:32:37.340 --> 01:32:41.100 to suspect that it was an image covered by the offenses. 1667 01:32:42.010 --> 01:32:45.710 There is also a defense where the person who possesses 1668 01:32:46.250 --> 01:32:50.670 or publishes the image directly participated in the act shown 1669 01:32:50.890 --> 01:32:54.579 in the image, and other criteria are met. For the 1670 01:32:54.619 --> 01:32:58.520 possession offenses, there is also a defense where a person 1671 01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:02.779 was sent the image without asking for it, either themselves 1672 01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:05.130 or through a third party, and did not keep it 1673 01:33:05.310 --> 01:33:10.010 for an unreasonable length of time. An unreasonable length of time. 1674 01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:14.260 So if you were in it and filled it, you 1675 01:33:14.300 --> 01:33:16.050 can produce it and own it. 1676 01:33:16.619 --> 01:33:20.640 Right. But if you distribute it to somebody else, if 1677 01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:23.319 they get rid of it within a, quote, reasonable amount 1678 01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:27.359 of time, no offense is committed either, right? So what 1679 01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:29.340 is a reasonable amount of time exactly? 1680 01:33:30.220 --> 01:33:32.520 Well, you're going to have to argue that out in court. 1681 01:33:32.539 --> 01:33:36.560 Now, here's the thing. The term possess is not defined 1682 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:37.640 in the legislation. 1683 01:33:37.819 --> 01:33:38.260 Oh, God. 1684 01:33:38.300 --> 01:33:41.439 It will be given its ordinary meaning. Whether a person 1685 01:33:41.479 --> 01:33:43.579 possesses an image will be a question of fact for 1686 01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:44.539 the court in each case. 1687 01:33:45.039 --> 01:33:47.920 However, we consider that possessing an image will. 1688 01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:50.890 Generally mean having custody or control in it. This can 1689 01:33:50.930 --> 01:33:53.770 include where an image is stored on a device, retained 1690 01:33:53.810 --> 01:33:56.050 in a personal account or cloud, saved in files, or 1691 01:33:56.090 --> 01:34:02.010 otherwise kept. Now, here's the problem. It tells you what 1692 01:34:02.069 --> 01:34:06.090 you need to do before the 6th of November. Possession 1693 01:34:06.170 --> 01:34:09.279 is a continuing act. If you already possess an image 1694 01:34:09.340 --> 01:34:12.159 covered by these offenses, you will need to permanently delete 1695 01:34:12.180 --> 01:34:15.159 it or otherwise get rid of it before the 6th 1696 01:34:15.180 --> 01:34:20.520 of November to avoid committing an offense. It says publication 1697 01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:23.229 can also

be a continuing act. Now, if I go 1698 01:34:23.310 --> 01:34:28.010 on my computer and I delete a photo, it goes 1699 01:34:28.069 --> 01:34:31.989 to the trash file. If I empty the trash file, 1700 01:34:33.369 --> 01:34:37.430 it's still on my computer. So are they going to 1701 01:34:37.489 --> 01:34:44.189 be able to prosecute somebody that deleted it, but then 1702 01:34:44.229 --> 01:34:47.039 they find it going through all the bits when they 1703 01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:50.659 scan the computer? Oh, here it is. It's retained here 1704 01:34:50.680 --> 01:34:55.479 because they tell you nothing is ever deleted from your computer. 1705 01:34:55.500 --> 01:34:56.180 You trash it. 1706 01:34:56.260 --> 01:34:58.939 Now, couldn't you argue that you lost control of it 1707 01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:01.340 and access to it when you did that? Because you 1708 01:35:01.380 --> 01:35:05.310 don't have easy access to it anymore. And you no 1709 01:35:05.350 --> 01:35:08.989 longer have control of where the residual file is stored. 1710 01:35:09.989 --> 01:35:10.930 Right or wrong? 1711 01:35:11.170 --> 01:35:13.590 You would think, yes, you would think that would be arguable. 1712 01:35:13.710 --> 01:35:15.970 That would be a fact arguable in court. 1713 01:35:16.270 --> 01:35:19.630 Like if I got a spam, OK, of a porno, 1714 01:35:19.670 --> 01:35:22.890 which happens all the time, I get, you know, spam 1715 01:35:22.930 --> 01:35:26.149 porno stuff and I dump it to my guard, you know, 1716 01:35:26.189 --> 01:35:30.239 my trash. OK, then it was never even on my computer, 1717 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:32.399 but it's still in my cloud account sitting in the 1718 01:35:32.439 --> 01:35:36.210 trash bin. And then I empty my trash bin. Now, 1719 01:35:36.250 --> 01:35:38.729 a lot of that stuff is still retrievable by people, 1720 01:35:38.850 --> 01:35:42.050 but not by me because it's gone as far as 1721 01:35:42.109 --> 01:35:48.470 I'm concerned. Right. So that can't possibly constitute control and custody. 1722 01:35:48.850 --> 01:35:50.210 Right or wrong. 1723 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:55.119 Well, no. Yeah, you know, it's an argument that can 1724 01:35:55.140 --> 01:35:56.699 be made in court, and a lot of people are 1725 01:35:56.720 --> 01:35:57.960 going to have to defend it, you know. 1726 01:35:58.159 --> 01:35:58.779 Wow. 1727 01:35:59.500 --> 01:36:02.579 In their defense, the funny thing is, though, something as 1728 01:36:02.619 --> 01:36:06.800 simple as a face-sitting video is now illegal. 1729 01:36:08.119 --> 01:36:08.420 Wow. 1730 01:36:09.649 --> 01:36:12.550 Unless you're the guy, you know, whose face is getting 1731 01:36:12.569 --> 01:36:14.069 sat on and you filmed it. 1732 01:36:14.569 --> 01:36:17.189 Right. So, you know, there are many videos out there 1733 01:36:17.229 --> 01:36:19.390 where they dress two women to look pretty much like 1734 01:36:19.430 --> 01:36:23.300 they're related, like they're sisters. And they describe it

as, 1735 01:36:23.340 --> 01:36:27.079 you know, two sisters attack stepdad. You now have various 1736 01:36:27.140 --> 01:36:30.359 violations of this law contained in that video. But if 1737 01:36:30.380 --> 01:36:35.279 you're a participant in that video, you're allowed to own it. Yeah. Now, 1738 01:36:35.359 --> 01:36:36.720 if you publish it, yeah. 1739 01:36:36.739 --> 01:36:39.220 You know, they talk about this familial setting. 1740 01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:40.560 Well, first cousins. 1741 01:36:42.229 --> 01:36:45.060 I mean, there's not a lot of distance between first cousins. 1742 01:36:45.310 --> 01:36:51.409 You know, your moms or your dads are brothers or siblings. Right. 1743 01:36:51.930 --> 01:36:52.289 Yeah. 1744 01:36:52.489 --> 01:36:55.609 So you're just the next direct offspring. But that is 1745 01:36:55.670 --> 01:36:58.710 legal in the UK to marry your cousin and have 1746 01:36:58.750 --> 01:36:59.229 sex with her. 1747 01:36:59.630 --> 01:37:03.770 Well, so that doesn't constitute a familial relationship. 1748 01:37:04.689 --> 01:37:05.369 Apparently not. 1749 01:37:06.529 --> 01:37:08.470 Because if it's legal to marry them, it's legal to 1750 01:37:08.510 --> 01:37:12.489 have sex with them. It's required, actually, right, to consummate 1751 01:37:12.510 --> 01:37:12.949 the marriage. 1752 01:37:13.890 --> 01:37:14.090 Yeah. 1753 01:37:14.470 --> 01:37:17.600 So you have— Get ready, folks. 1754 01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:20.420 This stuff is coming to the United States. 1755 01:37:21.079 --> 01:37:25.460 Oh, God. I don't even want to think about the, 1756 01:37:25.760 --> 01:37:28.340 you know, Pornhub categories that exist out there that are 1757 01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:31.140 going to all of a sudden have 404 errors if 1758 01:37:31.180 --> 01:37:33.920 this comes to the U.S., Well, we already. 1759 01:37:33.760 --> 01:37:36.060 Got that in my state because they went with the 1760 01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:39.899 you have to prove your age. And Pornhub said, we're 1761 01:37:39.939 --> 01:37:42.600 not doing it. We're not verifying ages. So we just 1762 01:37:42.619 --> 01:37:46.810 cut off access to these states that have changed their law. Right. 1763 01:37:48.050 --> 01:37:51.569 Which is weird because that means that they're literally showing 1764 01:37:51.609 --> 01:37:55.510 you their hand. They can make stuff not exist in 1765 01:37:55.710 --> 01:37:59.680 a particular geographic area. On the Internet at all, not 1766 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:02.310 not just show you the access and deny you access, 1767 01:38:02.359 --> 01:38:04.449 because for a while there they were doing this thing 1768 01:38:04.489 --> 01:38:06.189 where if you went there, it would say due to 1769 01:38:06.229 --> 01:38:08.029 the state you live in, you can't go and see 1770 01:38:08.069 --> 01:38:10.430 this stuff. But it would be right there on the 1771 01:38:10.470 --> 01:38:11.989 other side of the restricted window. 1772 01:38:12.050 --> 01:38:12.270 Right. 1773 01:38:12.970 --> 01:38:15.640 So the latest argument up now is a lot of 1774 01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:24.779 these websites are telling the. device companies, Apple, Samsung, Google. 1775 01:38:24.779 --> 01:38:29.600 That you should be able to control the age verification 1776 01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:33.380 on the device and if it's you know if it's 1777 01:38:34.140 --> 01:38:36.899 determined there that the person is legal then they should 1778 01:38:36.939 --> 01:38:39.930 have access to our website so they're trying to put 1779 01:38:39.949 --> 01:38:41.890 it on the manufacturers. 1780 01:38:41.109 --> 01:38:43.569 Instead of on the individual website having to check. 1781 01:38:43.390 --> 01:38:46.489 Ids well which will expand a lot of server yeah 1782 01:38:46.689 --> 01:38:49.689 which will expand the need for facial recognition as opposed 1783 01:38:49.729 --> 01:38:53.130 to other things because there's no telling listen i own 1784 01:38:53.149 --> 01:38:55.550 a device fine i'm 54 years old i can view 1785 01:38:55.569 --> 01:38:58.090 what i want but you know my 12 year old 1786 01:38:58.130 --> 01:39:01.329 son can have my device and all he needs is 1787 01:39:01.369 --> 01:39:03.569 a passcode and he can get out everything, well, that 1788 01:39:03.649 --> 01:39:07.869 makes it kind of pointless, doesn't it? So, you know, 1789 01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:10.439 so they're going to turn around and probably increase the 1790 01:39:10.520 --> 01:39:12.800 use of facial recognition to say that we're using it 1791 01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:14.000 for age verification. 1792 01:39:15.100 --> 01:39:17.239 A lot of places, though, they go by, do you 1793 01:39:17.260 --> 01:39:20.539 want to sign in with Google or with some other, 1794 01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:24.819 like Yahoo? And if you let them just link to 1795 01:39:24.859 --> 01:39:29.699 your profile on Yahoo... They'll let you in. You're not 1796 01:39:29.739 --> 01:39:33.039 verifying an age. You're just verifying an email account. Anybody 1797 01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:34.579 of any age could have the account. 1798 01:39:35.060 --> 01:39:37.340 Yeah, but your email account has a whole bunch of 1799 01:39:37.479 --> 01:39:41.819 ID markers. They know automatically from my Google that I'm 1800 01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:44.600 over 18, that I'm eligible to smoke and drink and 1801 01:39:44.649 --> 01:39:46.850 everything else. I can have alcohol delivered to me if 1802 01:39:46.909 --> 01:39:51.569 I sign in with my Google account. But if I 1803 01:39:51.689 --> 01:39:54.810 don't have that, if my son has a Google account too, 1804 01:39:55.069 --> 01:39:56.489 he can't get an alcohol delivery. 1805 01:39:57.890 --> 01:40:03.500 I don't understand why these websites, if you can sign in, 1806 01:40:04.100 --> 01:40:08.220 you can go to certain websites that are age-restricted and 1807 01:40:08.319 --> 01:40:12.920 sign in with your email. Why doesn't Pornhub just implement

that, 1808 01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:15.939 and they've let the device take care of the age? 1809 01:40:16.960 --> 01:40:20.739 Because it's probably a matter of liability. Who is actually 1810 01:40:20.840 --> 01:40:26.109 liable when the system fails, right? Right. You know, does 1811 01:40:26.149 --> 01:40:27.510 Google want to take on all that? 1812 01:40:27.789 --> 01:40:29.409 You always got to have somebody to sue. 1813 01:40:29.710 --> 01:40:31.689 Yeah, somebody has to be in a position where they 1814 01:40:31.710 --> 01:40:36.420 can get sued when it fails. I mean, that's my 1815 01:40:36.460 --> 01:40:39.199 only logical answer to that, but I don't know for sure. Jimmy, 1816 01:40:39.220 --> 01:40:40.380 you got any thoughts on any of this? 1817 01:40:44.920 --> 01:40:48.220 I'm a bit lost, but That's what you're talking about. 1818 01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:53.100 Well, you know what? That's not an unreasonable reaction, Jimmy. 1819 01:40:53.649 --> 01:40:58.090 Either way, because it is a bit confusing. I want some. 1820 01:40:57.850 --> 01:40:58.789 Voice clip of that. 1821 01:40:59.270 --> 01:41:00.789 Yeah. 1822 01:41:00.810 --> 01:41:03.109 Some voice clip of Jimmy saying, I'm kind of lost. 1823 01:41:03.369 --> 01:41:05.130 Yeah, you know what? That would be great to have 1824 01:41:05.170 --> 01:41:09.460 to play just randomly. I could use that on any show. 1825 01:41:11.289 --> 01:41:13.029 I don't know if you guys caught the Larry Hancock 1826 01:41:13.050 --> 01:41:14.840 show from yesterday, but that's kind of what I was 1827 01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:17.800 saying at a certain point where I'm a little confused here, Larry, 1828 01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:23.310 because it gets it's not his fault. He's explaining it clearly. 1829 01:41:23.409 --> 01:41:26.689 But again, he's trying to, you know, describe chaos to 1830 01:41:26.729 --> 01:41:29.890 you when it comes to the system for, you know. 1831 01:41:32.119 --> 01:41:36.699 What do they call that? You know, clarity, transparency. He's 1832 01:41:36.739 --> 01:41:39.060 trying to describe that system. And it is a bunch 1833 01:41:39.079 --> 01:41:43.579 of chaos with dead ends in it that shouldn't be there. But, 1834 01:41:43.819 --> 01:41:48.010 you know, thus is good enough for government work. You know, 1835 01:41:48.029 --> 01:41:51.170 and again, I don't necessarily blame the Trump administration. They 1836 01:41:51.270 --> 01:41:53.810 actually made efforts, but then their efforts go to a 1837 01:41:53.829 --> 01:41:56.729 dead end. So, you know, whose fault is that? I 1838 01:41:56.750 --> 01:41:57.229 don't even know. 1839 01:41:57.250 --> 01:41:57.590 Yeah. 1840 01:41:58.229 --> 01:42:01.010 To be honest with you, because Congress keeps trying to 1841 01:42:01.050 --> 01:42:04.760 enact stuff that, again, doesn't quite have the power it 1842 01:42:04.840 --> 01:42:09.380 should to preserve and collect all the data necessary to 1843 01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:11.340 create open source transparency. 1844 01:42:12.020 --> 01:42:14.779 So, well, you know, the government's going to do that 1845 01:42:14.819 --> 01:42:19.210 by default because they're not going to ironclad something because then. 1846 01:42:18.989 --> 01:42:19.989 That's what I'm saying. 1847 01:42:20.010 --> 01:42:21.590 Because then they're right. 1848 01:42:21.649 --> 01:42:24.430 Then they're locked in. And well, now you're required to 1849 01:42:24.489 --> 01:42:26.670 do this. There'll be all kinds of demands on them. 1850 01:42:27.250 --> 01:42:29.399 And that'll create, guess what, a need for a whole 1851 01:42:29.439 --> 01:42:33.640 new facility just to handle those demands. So government resists 1852 01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:38.350 that always just as a. uh just as an organism 1853 01:42:38.979 --> 01:42:41.859 uh government resists that and that's got nothing to do 1854 01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:43.640 with the politics yeah go ahead. 1855 01:42:43.539 --> 01:42:45.760 Yeah look at the simple argument in every state over 1856 01:42:45.819 --> 01:42:48.119 having to have an id to vote well there you 1857 01:42:48.180 --> 01:42:51.470 go convoluted and conflicted that gets it's a simple thing 1858 01:42:51.850 --> 01:42:54.909 you want to vote have an id oh well people 1859 01:42:54.949 --> 01:42:57.989 can't get ids well no that's bullshit because people have 1860 01:42:58.090 --> 01:43:02.930 ids all over the place And then when a state 1861 01:43:02.970 --> 01:43:06.489 enacts it, you have one group immediately files a claim 1862 01:43:06.550 --> 01:43:09.829 in court. It's happened in this state over voter ID 1863 01:43:09.850 --> 01:43:10.989 for years and years and years. 1864 01:43:11.430 --> 01:43:14.689 It's crazy. I have to recuse myself from that discussion 1865 01:43:14.750 --> 01:43:16.689 because I am one of these people that is currently 1866 01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:23.739 incapable of getting an ID because I'm in a catch-22 1867 01:43:23.859 --> 01:43:27.100 regarding my ID. The state of Georgia will not give 1868 01:43:27.140 --> 01:43:30.500 it to me without a birth certificate. The state of 1869 01:43:30.539 --> 01:43:33.399 New Jersey will not send me my birth certificate without 1870 01:43:33.439 --> 01:43:36.930 me being able to prove my Georgia address and ID. 1871 01:43:37.890 --> 01:43:40.949 So I can't get the Georgia ID because I can't 1872 01:43:41.010 --> 01:43:43.609 get the birth certificate because I can't get the Georgia. 1873 01:43:43.890 --> 01:43:48.069 That's where I'm stuck. And I can't get, you know, 1874 01:43:48.130 --> 01:43:50.210 the people in New Jersey, which is one lady in 1875 01:43:50.250 --> 01:43:53.470 a registrar's office, by the way, to just listen. Can 1876 01:43:53.489 --> 01:43:55.689 you just believe I am who I say the frig 1877 01:43:55.750 --> 01:44:01.739 I am? Uh, no, they won't. Uh, you know, even 1878 01:44:01.760 --> 01:44:03.180 though I can give them plenty of the record, like, 1879

01:44:03.220 --> 01:44:06.260 what do you do when you have no proof of something? 1880 01:44:06.699 --> 01:44:10.819 I literally don't have an acceptable ID or even one 1881 01:44:10.890 --> 01:44:16.609 that's old that somebody will accept. So what do I do? 1882 01:44:16.630 --> 01:44:19.010 I don't have the starter paperwork. I can't get my 1883 01:44:19.050 --> 01:44:21.149 birth certificate. She said it might be different if I 1884 01:44:21.189 --> 01:44:23.890 walked into her office, but I got to get to 1885 01:44:23.949 --> 01:44:27.899 New Jersey. uh which you know not something i can 1886 01:44:27.960 --> 01:44:29.800 do on my own i'm trying to even give her 1887 01:44:29.819 --> 01:44:32.880 an exemption for reasonable access based on the americans with 1888 01:44:32.920 --> 01:44:37.579 disabilities act and she won't budge so therefore i can't 1889 01:44:37.640 --> 01:44:40.319 get the id because i can't get the birth certificate 1890 01:44:40.340 --> 01:44:43.789 because i can't get the id now i don't know 1891 01:44:43.829 --> 01:44:45.989 if a lot of people are stuck in that circumstance 1892 01:44:46.170 --> 01:44:49.260 most people think i'm crazy But I'm telling you, that's 1893 01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:50.479 where I'm at. 1894 01:44:50.689 --> 01:44:52.890 You would seriously be better off to claim you were 1895 01:44:52.909 --> 01:44:53.850 an illegal immigrant. 1896 01:44:54.189 --> 01:44:56.510 Well, that's been my argument about a bunch of stuff 1897 01:44:56.550 --> 01:44:58.590 where people say, oh, well, you know, illegals, they just 1898 01:44:58.630 --> 01:45:00.609 show up, no paperwork. And I'm like, well, maybe I 1899 01:45:00.649 --> 01:45:03.369 should just become one of them because they'll. 1900 01:45:03.149 --> 01:45:07.069 Give me an I.D. You know, give me an ID, 1901 01:45:07.409 --> 01:45:09.470 part of your rent, an Obama phone. 1902 01:45:09.909 --> 01:45:13.340 Whatever. Maybe I should just do that and say, look, 1903 01:45:13.399 --> 01:45:16.960 I got no ID because guess what? I don't belong here. 1904 01:45:17.140 --> 01:45:17.840 Give me my stuff. 1905 01:45:17.859 --> 01:45:19.539 That would be a good that would be a good 1906 01:45:19.579 --> 01:45:22.060 experiment for you to try. And we document it here 1907 01:45:22.100 --> 01:45:22.600 on the show. 1908 01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:23.340 Yeah. 1909 01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:26.420 Knowing my luck, my ass will get deported to Guatemala. OK, 1910 01:45:26.699 --> 01:45:28.899 I'm just thinking. Right. 1911 01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:34.949 And they believe Chuck and no one does say. Don't 1912 01:45:34.989 --> 01:45:36.649 you play slick with us? 1913 01:45:37.489 --> 01:45:39.829 We know where you're from, Sicily. 1914 01:45:41.470 --> 01:45:44.710 Look, and they show a wanted poster, and there's a 1915 01:45:44.729 --> 01:45:47.770 guy in Sicily that somehow looks exactly like you. 1916 01:45:48.090 --> 01:45:48.680 What's that? 1917 01:45:48.939 --> 01:45:51.640 Yeah, that's possible, but here's the problem. My right of 1918 01:45:51.680 --> 01:45:54.920 return to Sicily, I looked into that, and I can't 1919 01:45:54.979 --> 01:45:58.659 do it. So they would put me in prison in 1920 01:45:58.739 --> 01:46:02.560 Sicily automatically if they deported me to Sicily. I don't 1921 01:46:02.600 --> 01:46:02.939 want to go there. 1922 01:46:02.960 --> 01:46:05.340 Tell them you're from France and then you can run 1923 01:46:05.380 --> 01:46:06.000 for president. 1924 01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:10.619 Oh, shit. I could be a conehead. I'm from France. Nice. 1925 01:46:11.770 --> 01:46:14.970 I got to declare myself a frog to make it 1926 01:46:14.989 --> 01:46:17.649 to get ID. And maybe I won't go to prison 1927 01:46:17.750 --> 01:46:21.109 or be deported to Guatemala or, God help me, Tunisia. 1928 01:46:22.909 --> 01:46:23.430 What the hell? 1929 01:46:23.489 --> 01:46:27.210 The same thing here in regards to the coneheads being 1930 01:46:27.229 --> 01:46:27.789 from France. 1931 01:46:27.829 --> 01:46:30.220 Around here, the expression is he's from tick bite. 1932 01:46:31.159 --> 01:46:34.350 Nice. Anyway, you know what? We're getting toward the end 1933 01:46:34.369 --> 01:46:36.829 of the show. I want to bring Danny back on. Jimmy, 1934 01:46:36.850 --> 01:46:38.189 I'm going to put you on hold for a sec. 1935 01:46:38.869 --> 01:46:42.060 But I'm going to give you the final word from 1936 01:46:42.069 --> 01:46:44.859 the callers for sure. But let's see. Yeah, it's about 1937 01:46:44.920 --> 01:46:47.920 five after. So we've done the full two hours, even 1938 01:46:47.979 --> 01:46:50.140 if the stream was down for about 10 minutes, I guess. 1939 01:46:51.699 --> 01:46:53.699 But we have been live the whole time. And me 1940 01:46:53.720 --> 01:46:55.920 and BP have been talking even when there weren't callers. 1941 01:46:56.359 --> 01:46:58.819 So I'm going to go back to Danny. And then 1942 01:46:58.859 --> 01:47:00.800 go to Jimmy, get the final words for the week. 1943 01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:03.779 And of course, let my co-host have the final, final word, 1944 01:47:03.819 --> 01:47:07.590 if you will. But I'm glad that you guys joined me. 1945 01:47:07.729 --> 01:47:09.890 And whether you're listening to the podcast or not, please 1946 01:47:09.930 --> 01:47:13.890 remember that we are listener supported. Depending on the reactions 1947 01:47:13.949 --> 01:47:17.470 I get from the Rated Y Patreon, I may turn 1948 01:47:17.510 --> 01:47:21.840 that into the Ocelli.com Patreon, which means I'm going to 1949 01:47:21.859 --> 01:47:26.500 release the entire archive through Patreon if people support it. Uh, 1950 01:47:26.699 --> 01:47:29.699 but that is one of the possible plans. Maybe you 1951 01:47:29.739 --> 01:47:32.510 guys will tell me don't bother. Uh, and if that's 1952 01:47:32.569 --> 01:47:34.210 the case, we'll just keep doing what we're doing and 1953 01:47:34.229 --> 01:47:37.430

we'll expand in a different way. But I'm working on it. 1954 01:47:37.590 --> 01:47:40.189 And I hope that we can continue to do this 1955 01:47:40.270 --> 01:47:42.350 work that we have done, continue to do the Friday 1956 01:47:42.390 --> 01:47:45.649 night shows and the other ones that I have been adding. 1957 01:47:46.130 --> 01:47:49.020 Glad to have had Larry Hancock back. And the Thursday 1958 01:47:49.069 --> 01:47:54.340 jam is a bit politically incorrect. But you know what? 1959 01:47:54.420 --> 01:47:56.119 I'm willing to work with a guy who says stuff 1960 01:47:56.140 --> 01:47:59.819 that I wouldn't say. And that's the interesting thing about this. 1961 01:47:59.979 --> 01:48:02.659 I'm more than happy to do that. And if other 1962 01:48:02.699 --> 01:48:07.159 co-hosts want to join, contact me. Let's work something out. 1963 01:48:07.199 --> 01:48:09.180 If you got something unique to say, because I don't 1964 01:48:09.199 --> 01:48:10.539 want to hear the same old crap that we can 1965 01:48:10.579 --> 01:48:14.069 get everywhere else. But if you got some uniqueness, it 1966 01:48:14.109 --> 01:48:17.010 doesn't have to be outrageous. It could be anything as 1967 01:48:17.050 --> 01:48:19.970 long as it's coherent and we can have a discussion. 1968 01:48:20.100 --> 01:48:24.560 because it is the revelation through conversation here that's the 1969 01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:28.239 key but uh as we continue i'll go to danny 1970 01:48:28.380 --> 01:48:30.359 and see what he's got to say on uh in 1971 01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:33.819 parting for this week so danny there you are. 1972 01:48:35.149 --> 01:48:41.069 Yeah yeah um All I got to say is as 1973 01:48:41.189 --> 01:48:43.510 a final parting word, this is not the end of 1974 01:48:43.550 --> 01:48:46.850 the journey onward. And for all of you out there 1975 01:48:46.890 --> 01:48:51.880 listening to this podcast, let's see if we can get 1,000 1976 01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:57.260 people to donate $ 4 to Chuck's Patreon. 1977 01:48:57.260 --> 01:48:57.819 1,000 listeners. 1978 01:48:57.899 --> 01:49:00.239 It's not that much, $ 4. It's not even the price 1979 01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:01.659 of a coffee in some places. 1980 01:49:03.500 --> 01:49:04.199 Help Chuck out. 1981 01:49:04.300 --> 01:49:06.880 Help this thing go where it's supposed to go. 1982 01:49:09.729 --> 01:49:12.050 Well, I appreciate it, Danny. And Danny is one of 1983 01:49:12.069 --> 01:49:14.880 those people who actually puts his money in his mouth 1984 01:49:14.939 --> 01:49:17.840 in the same spot. So, you know, and so does 1985 01:49:17.880 --> 01:49:20.899 Jimmy and so does BP. But, you know, more than 1986 01:49:20.939 --> 01:49:24.979 three guys got to jump in. Recently, I did hear 1987 01:49:25.060 --> 01:49:29.859 from Ed out west, and I'm extremely grateful, Ed. Thank you, 1988 01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:32.310 especially because I had to absorb a $ 150 bill that 1989 01:49:32.319 --> 01:49:33.609 became a $ 600 bill just to stay on the Internet. 1990 01:49:33.630 --> 01:49:42.439 Thank you. Uh, thank you so much spectrum, you pieces 1991 01:49:42.500 --> 01:49:46.460 of shit. Uh, you know, and, uh, fuck you Cox. 1992 01:49:46.619 --> 01:49:50.229 Cause they're there. That's kind of funny, right? Uh, I 1993 01:49:50.270 --> 01:49:52.029 was saying to somebody who said, Oh, well you can 1994 01:49:52.090 --> 01:49:55.010 use that Cox communication thing all over town. And I said, Nope, 1995 01:49:55.229 --> 01:49:59.810 I can't take my Cox all over town. But, you know, 1996 01:50:00.310 --> 01:50:03.899 there you go. These are the jokes, folks. Keep up. Anyway, 1997 01:50:04.380 --> 01:50:08.460 Jimmy James, your final word for the week. And you're unmuted. 1998 01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:08.880 There we go. 1999 01:50:15.739 --> 01:50:17.970 Well, everyone have a good weekend. 2000 01:50:20.930 --> 01:50:23.310 God bless. Peace. 2001 01:50:24.989 --> 01:50:27.470 There you go. I love Jimmy because he often ends 2002 01:50:27.510 --> 01:50:30.039 with peace. Even if he's hostile during the show, he'll 2003 01:50:30.159 --> 01:50:32.960 often end with peace. I love that because even after 2004 01:50:32.979 --> 01:50:35.439 the argument, we got to remember we're still in this together. 2005 01:50:36.680 --> 01:50:39.779 So I appreciate you, Jimmy. Really, I do. I thought 2006 01:50:39.819 --> 01:50:42.600 you might find it more amusing that I was incapable 2007 01:50:42.619 --> 01:50:46.510 of taking my full spectrum cocks all over town and 2008 01:50:46.590 --> 01:50:50.649 sharing them. But, you know. Maybe it's just me, and 2009 01:50:50.829 --> 01:50:53.989 I see the humor and things like that. But, you know, 2010 01:50:54.010 --> 01:50:57.989 the full-spectrum cocks at this point kind of make my 2011 01:50:58.090 --> 01:51:02.430 ass sore. You know, BP, anything you want to close with? 2012 01:51:04.270 --> 01:51:07.649 Well, I appreciate Danny and Jimmy for calling in. 2013 01:51:08.600 --> 01:51:10.039 You know, we've got another one in the can, and 2014 01:51:10.060 --> 01:51:11.300 we'll do it again next week. 2015 01:51:11.680 --> 01:51:12.840 Until then, go to. 2016 01:51:12.819 --> 01:51:16.319 Achelli.com with the donate button. Every little bit helps. 2017 01:51:18.100 --> 01:51:20.500 Every little bit hurts. Every little bit hurts. I love that. 2018 01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:22.699 Every little bit hurts. 2019 01:51:23.220 --> 01:51:25.930 Every little bit hurts a little less. Every little bit 2020 01:51:25.970 --> 01:51:27.819 hurts a little less, BP. How about that? 2021 01:51:28.550 --> 01:51:32.010 There you go. And always look after your food banks. 2022 01:51:32.069 --> 01:51:34.050 People out there are struggling. Do what you can to 2023 01:51:34.069 --> 01:51:34.569 help them out. 2024 01:51:35.189 --> 01:51:38.029 Oh, yeah. Look, and the food bank in Macon, Georgia, 2025 01:51:38.090 --> 01:51:40.630 which I couldn't make it to, but I

talked to 2026 01:51:40.670 --> 01:51:42.869 a couple of people and they showed me what they got. 2027 01:51:44.619 --> 01:51:47.420 You know, the food bank in Macon, Georgia, they got 2028 01:51:47.539 --> 01:51:53.699 two cans of vegetables that were expired, a bag of rice. OK, 2029 01:51:54.090 --> 01:51:57.210 and a couple of little bags of Cheetos. That was 2030 01:51:57.270 --> 01:52:01.189 for a family of three. So the food bank here sucks. 2031 01:52:01.470 --> 01:52:03.229 I'm hearing from other people, the food banks in a 2032 01:52:03.270 --> 01:52:06.050 lot of other places suck. If you're in a major 2033 01:52:06.109 --> 01:52:09.850 city or a highly populated area, I don't know what 2034 01:52:09.869 --> 01:52:13.489 it looks like at this point. Many people are not 2035 01:52:13.529 --> 01:52:15.329 reporting to me that they're going to the food banks, 2036 01:52:15.369 --> 01:52:19.640 but I know a lot of people are. So, you know, look, 2037 01:52:19.880 --> 01:52:22.420 no shame in the game. If you got to eat, 2038 01:52:22.460 --> 01:52:24.279 you got to eat. And believe me, I'd still go 2039 01:52:24.319 --> 01:52:26.000 to get that damn bag of rice if I could 2040 01:52:26.039 --> 01:52:28.920 get there, because it would be more than what I have. 2041 01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:33.619 But this is the circumstance we find ourselves in. And absolutely, 2042 01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:36.819 I always support VP mentioning that you should take care 2043 01:52:36.840 --> 01:52:40.060 of your local food banks for sure. If you send 2044 01:52:40.119 --> 01:52:42.560 any contribution into me, it does help toward the well-being 2045 01:52:42.590 --> 01:52:44.829 of myself and a couple other people and some little dogs. 2046 01:52:45.770 --> 01:52:48.569 And even a big dog that Mrs. O has saved 2047 01:52:48.750 --> 01:52:53.229 once again. But, you know, I'm not going to get 2048 01:52:53.289 --> 01:52:56.939 into complaints here. Anyway, it will go directly to supporting 2049 01:52:56.960 --> 01:53:00.119 the lives of a few creatures, including the one you're 2050 01:53:00.140 --> 01:53:03.189 hearing speaking right now. So anyway, that's that. And I'm 2051 01:53:03.229 --> 01:53:05.250 glad that you were along with me for this short 2052 01:53:05.289 --> 01:53:07.350 journey of a little more than two hours on a 2053 01:53:07.369 --> 01:53:09.069 Friday night. 2054 01:53:16.449 --> 01:53:20.729 Ocelli.com The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great 2055 01:53:20.789 --> 01:53:24.069 national transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency 2056 01:53:24.149 --> 01:53:27.229 in the context of the times and reveals never before 2057 01:53:27.310 --> 01:53:29.720 published information about the Cuban Missile Crisis. 2058 01:53:30.119 --> 01:53:33.659 President Kennedy would not have been assassinated if he had been. 2059 01:53:33.699 --> 01:53:45.039 The Ocelli.com Radio Network Thank you. 2060 01:54:21.050 --> 01:54:22.689 Thank you. 2061 01:55:05.050 --> 01:55:08.250 The War State by Michael Swanson explains the great national 2062 01:55:08.289 --> 01:55:11.300 transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in 2063 01:55:11.340 --> 01:55:14.720 the context of the times and reveals never before published 2064 01:55:14.760 --> 01:55:18.500 information about the Cuban Missile Crisis. President Kennedy would not 2065 01:55:18.539 --> 01:55:20.920 have been assassinated if he had been president 200 years ago. 2066 01:55:22.140 --> 01:55:25.000 His assassination took place in the context of the Cold 2067 01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:28.020 War and the rise of the national security state. Before 2068 01:55:28.100 --> 01:55:31.159 World War II, the United States was a continental republic. 2069 01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:34.560 In the decade that followed, it became an imperial superpower. 2070 01:55:34.890 --> 01:55:38.390 Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade Cuba, 2071 01:55:38.550 --> 01:55:41.130 but knew that there were short-range missiles on the island 2072 01:55:41.250 --> 01:55:44.310 armed with nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because 2073 01:55:44.329 --> 01:55:47.109 they were on mobile launchers. Their invasion could have led 2074 01:55:47.149 --> 01:55:50.069 to a third world war, and they wanted to go 2075 01:55:50.109 --> 01:55:54.000 to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson reveals 2076 01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:56.880 why and will show you what President Kennedy was up against. 2077 01:55:57.140 --> 01:55:59.439 For more information, thewarstate.com.