Full Transcript for Ochelli Effect 1-=23-2026 Friday Night Open MIC with B Pete

to look at the live stream 38 00:02:02.010 --> 00:02:04.230 and see who's listening. But how's your week been? 39 00:02:06.049 --> 00:02:09.830 Well, it's been different. It's been beautiful during the day. 40 00:02:09.889 --> 00:02:11.250 So we get out in the yard and work in 41 00:02:11.270 --> 00:02:16.090 the 70s. No humidity, nice gentle breeze. But we have 42 00:02:16.169 --> 00:02:18.090 hit winter at night. We've been getting down in the 43 00:02:18.110 --> 00:02:21.520 30s for the past three nights. 44 00:02:21.939 --> 00:02:25.080 So it's not chilly early in the morning in North 45 00:02:25.099 --> 00:02:26.020 Carolina or what? 46 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:28.080 Yeah, it's fucking cold. 47 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:30.659 Okay. I was just wondering because you were saying just 48 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:33.379 at night. And I'm going, yeah, late at night, yeah, definitely. 49 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.340 But early in the morning, it's like, damn, it's cold 50 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:35.719 in the house. 51 00:02:36.949 --> 00:02:39.969 We hit 38 this morning, so we've already had to 52 00:02:40.009 --> 00:02:43.050 crank the heat. But other than that, just spent the day. 53 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:46.599 I've got anybody out there listening. I've got a question. 54 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:51.360 You can email Chuck. You can email me, bp1969 at yahoo.com. 55 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:55.139 I want to know if you can burn acorns in 56 00:02:55.159 --> 00:03:00.289 a pellet stove. Okay. I've got oak trees that produce 57 00:03:00.349 --> 00:03:03.069 the small acorns, and there's a bazillion of them out there. 58 00:03:03.090 --> 00:03:06.840 In fact— I've blown the yard into piles, and I 59 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:10.840 have to shovel these up because the mower will only 60 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:13.560 get so much of them in the bagger. They're so small. 61 00:03:13.639 --> 00:03:18.409 It's like raking pea gravel across your lawn. So I 62 00:03:18.430 --> 00:03:20.110 just get the blower out there, put them in piles, 63 00:03:20.150 --> 00:03:22.090 and have to use shovel to get them up. But 64 00:03:22.110 --> 00:03:24.650 I was wondering, with a pellet stove, the way they 65 00:03:24.669 --> 00:03:28.659 make the pellets in these small acorns— I don't know 66 00:03:28.740 --> 00:03:31.939 that they would pop because they've aged to the point 67 00:03:31.979 --> 00:03:34.360 that they've, you know, the caps are off, they've hit 68 00:03:34.379 --> 00:03:34.879 the ground. 69 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:35.719 Right. 70 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.800 They're good and firm. I don't think they would pop 71 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.280 like popcorn. But I was wondering if you could use 72 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:45.800 a vero fuel like that. If so, I got a 73 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:49.180 couple hundred pounds of fuel for somebody if they want them. 74 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.539 Well, you know what's odd about that is I was 75 00:03:51.580 --> 00:03:53.740 just thinking, and I know that there's something that comes 76 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:56.439 off a tree that's like an acorn that does pop. 77 00:03:57.210 --> 00:04:00.199 like popcorn in a stove. Um, and I can't remember 78 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.219 what it is now, but I remember somebody putting it 79 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:05.439 in the bottom of like one of those old fashioned, 80 00:04:05.460 --> 00:04:08.280 you know, seriously like potbelly stoves with a damn pipe 81 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:11.039 that goes out of the house. You know what I mean? Uh, 82 00:04:11.139 --> 00:04:12.599 and I know somebody put it in the bottom of 83 00:04:12.620 --> 00:04:15.189 that one time and like just shoveled, let's try this 84 00:04:15.229 --> 00:04:18.350 for fuel, you know, through that in the bottom where 85 00:04:18.389 --> 00:04:20.569 you're supposed to keep like the slow burning stuff. I 86 00:04:20.589 --> 00:04:22.209 don't know what they call that, but it's a kind 87 00:04:22.250 --> 00:04:24.680 of stove where you got, you know, sort of like 88 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:27.000 charcoal on the bottom, and then you can actually make 89 00:04:27.019 --> 00:04:32.689 a fire in the middle, which is odd. But they 90 00:04:32.730 --> 00:04:35.410 stuck stuff in the lower part, and it started popping 91 00:04:35.430 --> 00:04:39.769 like popcorn once. And obviously that was somebody who didn't 92 00:04:39.810 --> 00:04:41.670 know how to use it, but it was a weird 93 00:04:41.709 --> 00:04:45.319 house in Jersey where nobody had ever installed heat, but 94 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.560 there was just this potbelly stove like in the main 95 00:04:48.620 --> 00:04:49.769 room of the house kind of. 96 00:04:49.779 --> 00:04:53.459 Yeah, I'd love to have a small one for my garage. 97 00:04:53.970 --> 00:04:56.370 It'd be nice to have one out there, just knock 98 00:04:56.389 --> 00:04:58.470 the chill off when you're out there working in the wintertime. 99 00:04:59.110 --> 00:05:03.170 Yeah, well, sadly, there's lots of electrical options that you 100 00:05:03.189 --> 00:05:06.029 can stick in your garage with fake fire and everything else. 101 00:05:06.889 --> 00:05:09.879 I've got an oil heater that looks like one of 102 00:05:09.889 --> 00:05:10.860 those small radiators. 103 00:05:11.779 --> 00:05:12.879 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. 104 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.360 And it does pretty good. I mean, it's efficient. It's 105 00:05:16.379 --> 00:05:20.259 not like putting one of these electric element heaters in 106 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:24.560 there that just spins your power off. a meter off 107 00:05:24.579 --> 00:05:25.699 the house used to. 108 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.040 Be they had great little propane uh what was it 109 00:05:28.100 --> 00:05:30.790 coleman used to make great little propane things like they 110 00:05:30.810 --> 00:05:32.230 were tiny but they could heat up. 111 00:05:33.009 --> 00:05:36.769 Yeah you can buy the

heating head um it it 112 00:05:37.509 --> 00:05:41.310 screws on the top of a propane tank and uh 113 00:05:41.790 --> 00:05:44.120 got an electric igniter on it that you push the 114 00:05:44.139 --> 00:05:46.060 button you know you crack the gas push the button 115 00:05:46.100 --> 00:05:48.079 it lights and then it heats up this huge head 116 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:52.819 but i mean those things propane is getting expensive um 117 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:55.500 You know, I'm looking for something. I've got plenty of 118 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.790 oak trees around here. I've got plenty of fuel between 119 00:05:58.829 --> 00:06:02.009 dead limbs and acorns and everything else. And then taking 120 00:06:02.050 --> 00:06:06.470 care of the neighborhood crap during the summer, any firewood. 121 00:06:06.529 --> 00:06:08.259 You know, if someone loses a limb, I cut it up, 122 00:06:08.310 --> 00:06:10.069 bring it home, put it on the rack, let it dry. 123 00:06:10.410 --> 00:06:10.689 Right. 124 00:06:10.790 --> 00:06:13.660 So I've got fuel. I just need to find me 125 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:18.680 an efficient heat source. I'm thinking the propane tanks I've 126 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:24.029 got are for a cooker, like for doing– Like for 127 00:06:24.069 --> 00:06:27.939 frying a turkey or doing deer stew or fish stew 128 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:31.300 or chili. You know, I've got cookers like that. So 129 00:06:31.379 --> 00:06:33.279 I've got two propane tanks out there, but I'm going 130 00:06:33.300 --> 00:06:37.720 to put in a forge, a small furnace outside built 131 00:06:37.779 --> 00:06:42.290 with fire brick. And I can fuel that with propane. 132 00:06:42.550 --> 00:06:45.430 I just got to get my burners and get my 133 00:06:45.829 --> 00:06:48.639 bricks ready. and go ahead and get them laid out 134 00:06:48.660 --> 00:06:51.319 and get them mortared. I mean, other than that. 135 00:06:51.689 --> 00:06:54.439 I used to like bonfires outdoors, to be honest with you. 136 00:06:54.490 --> 00:06:57.569 Those were always fun. But I don't know if they're, like, 137 00:06:57.649 --> 00:06:58.949 legal everywhere anymore. 138 00:07:00.029 --> 00:07:01.730 We used to do that at the lake a lot 139 00:07:01.910 --> 00:07:02.569 on the weekends. 140 00:07:02.990 --> 00:07:06.110 Oh, yeah. No, lake is always a perfect place. But 141 00:07:06.129 --> 00:07:08.209 I actually lived in a house once. You know, it had, like, 142 00:07:08.269 --> 00:07:11.149 a fireplace, and clearly the fireplace had gotten, you know, 143 00:07:11.230 --> 00:07:14.230 cooked at some point to the point where, like, the 144 00:07:14.329 --> 00:07:17.720 bricks looked scorched for some reason. And, uh, I mean, 145 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.100 they weren't just dirty either. Cause I had somebody try 146 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:21.920 to clean it and tell me, nah, there's, there's something 147 00:07:21.939 --> 00:07:24.779 else going on here. Uh, we'd literally have to like

148 00:07:24.860 --> 00:07:26.920 scrape off the surface of the bricks to get rid 149 00:07:26.939 --> 00:07:30.970 of the blackness, you know? I said, okay, that's cool. But, um, 150 00:07:31.589 --> 00:07:36.750 they stuck a, uh, propane heater in there. Right. And, uh, and, 151 00:07:36.850 --> 00:07:40.449 and then it was adapted for natural gas somehow. And 152 00:07:40.470 --> 00:07:42.689 this thing was weird cause it had an igniter and 153 00:07:42.730 --> 00:07:46.850 it literally made these flames behind a cage, uh, Like 154 00:07:46.949 --> 00:07:50.410 in a metal box, which was kind of weird. But 155 00:07:50.470 --> 00:07:54.850 it had an igniter on it. And the igniter stopped working, 156 00:07:54.889 --> 00:07:57.610 so I started just lighting a stick and sticking it 157 00:07:57.689 --> 00:08:00.379 in the cage. And boom, it would light up. And 158 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.019 that thing would warm the whole house with very little fuel. 159 00:08:04.699 --> 00:08:06.339 It seemed like it would burn a lot of fuel, 160 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.050 you know, because making flames in a box... but it 161 00:08:09.069 --> 00:08:11.860 would warm the entire little house I had there that 162 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:12.300 I was renting. 163 00:08:12.310 --> 00:08:14.699 Yeah, that's the thing. You get the fire going in there, 164 00:08:14.740 --> 00:08:17.139 and it heats up that brick in the hearth and 165 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.180 radiates that heat into the room. I'm going to use 166 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:23.560 my fireplace when I moved in here. Whoever was here 167 00:08:23.620 --> 00:08:26.800 before has gas logs in the fireplace, and I'm taking 168 00:08:26.819 --> 00:08:29.000 the gas logs out and just converting it back to 169 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:32.580 a normal wood-burning fireplace. I'll be using that this winter 170 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:34.259 because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay due 171 00:08:34.299 --> 00:08:37.149 power like I did last year. God, they about broke me. 172 00:08:37.649 --> 00:08:40.909 Yeah, well, they murdered me all summer, so I got 173 00:08:40.950 --> 00:08:42.820 to imagine they're going to kill me even worse in 174 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:46.759 the winter. Because even when the electric wasn't up as 175 00:08:46.779 --> 00:08:50.460 high as it is now, it was killing me with 176 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.940 the little heaters. I was like, no, man, you know what? 177 00:08:52.980 --> 00:08:54.559 We're only going to heat two rooms in the house. 178 00:08:54.580 --> 00:08:55.559 Screw this. 179 00:08:55.899 --> 00:09:01.139 Yes. Those electric heaters, some of them were efficient, but 180 00:09:01.340 --> 00:09:05.419 even they– pull a lot of power so i mean 181 00:09:05.460 --> 00:09:07.799 if you can avoid using an electric space heater you're 182 00:09:07.830 --> 00:09:12.889 better off this place actually had remember the old and 183 00:09:12.929 --> 00:09:14.990 you may have seen them in a maintenance office or 184 00:09:15.190 --> 00:09:20.789 or lance you know a groundskeeper's room the old um 185 00:09:21.929 --> 00:09:26.059 oil wall units that had like the white tiles in 186 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:29.639 it Okay. And you would start this thing, cut your 187 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:32.669 fuel on. They used either gas or they used kerosene, 188 00:09:33.409 --> 00:09:36.029 and you would cut it on and light it, and 189 00:09:36.110 --> 00:09:39.909 the flame would heat up those white bricks, and they 190 00:09:39.929 --> 00:09:41.070 would turn kind of orange. 191 00:09:41.370 --> 00:09:41.669 Right. 192 00:09:42.350 --> 00:09:45.049 And radiate out. I've got two of those units in 193 00:09:45.090 --> 00:09:48.200 here that I'm getting ready to rip out. So when 194 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:52.600 this house was built, they had an original furnace system in, 195 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.480 and at some time, they converted over to those... propane 196 00:09:56.980 --> 00:09:59.549 wall units. There's one in the hallway on one end 197 00:09:59.570 --> 00:10:02.100 and and one in like a hallway on the other end. 198 00:10:03.059 --> 00:10:06.159 So I'm wondering if, you know, at some time power. 199 00:10:07.309 --> 00:10:09.450 Somehow the power bill got high, and the guy says, look, 200 00:10:09.490 --> 00:10:11.649 I'm trying to save money. It's an old wooden house 201 00:10:11.690 --> 00:10:15.860 that's been covered in vinyl with insulation. So the old 202 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:20.559 original heat system was an oil furnace that was sitting 203 00:10:21.139 --> 00:10:23.210 like in the middle of the house with a chimney, 204 00:10:23.429 --> 00:10:26.889 and the fuel tank was out back. Right. Well, that 205 00:10:26.929 --> 00:10:28.830 got changed. So I don't know if the price of 206 00:10:28.850 --> 00:10:31.210 oil got expensive and he switched over to propane because 207 00:10:31.230 --> 00:10:33.100 propane used to be the cheapest way to eat something. 208 00:10:33.460 --> 00:10:35.700 Yeah, propane used to be dirt, dirt cheap. I mean, 209 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:37.879 you know, the only trouble was I had to buy like, 210 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.200 I forget, half a tank or whatever at a time. 211 00:10:41.259 --> 00:10:43.809 There was a certain minimum that you had to like order. 212 00:10:44.690 --> 00:10:47.210 And and I would just get it for the year. 213 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:50.460 You know, without a problem. They told me, you know, yeah, 214 00:10:50.500 --> 00:10:52.220 I got to get at least six months worth or 215 00:10:52.259 --> 00:10:55.259 whatever based on blah, blah, blah. But but I would 216 00:10:55.299 --> 00:10:57.480 just order it and do it once and then conserve 217 00:10:57.559 --> 00:10:58.320 on it. You know what I mean? 218 00:10:58.720 --> 00:10:59.179 Yeah. 219 00:10:59.419 --> 00:11:01.950 My brother's got he's got two heat packs in his 220 00:11:01.990 --> 00:11:04.970 house and

they use the big propane tank out in 221 00:11:04.990 --> 00:11:09.429 the yard. And he negotiates his price for the whole winter, 222 00:11:09.990 --> 00:11:14.110 like in May, you know, of gas. the summer before 223 00:11:14.149 --> 00:11:19.059 the winter hits. So they negotiate a price. Otherwise, you know, 224 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.860 like two years ago, the price fluctuated so much that, 225 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.320 you know, you could afford it one month, but then 226 00:11:24.340 --> 00:11:26.340 the next month when they come fill it up, it's double, 227 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:30.860 you know, what you would normally pay. So he's on 228 00:11:30.899 --> 00:11:34.710 a deal with a company that services. They have a 229 00:11:34.730 --> 00:11:38.610 propane service. They also sell heat pumps. And with those 230 00:11:38.649 --> 00:11:41.549 two gas packs, it's pretty efficient for his house, its own. 231 00:11:43.289 --> 00:11:47.149 My parents' old house, they had taken two farmhouses, moved 232 00:11:47.169 --> 00:11:50.100 them onto the lot, put them on a foundation, and 233 00:11:50.139 --> 00:11:53.659 then connected them and then gutted the inside and rebuilt. 234 00:11:54.720 --> 00:11:58.019 So it's pretty good sized. I think it's four-bedroom, five-bedroom, 235 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:03.879 two baths, and he heats that with two gas packs. Right. 236 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:06.120 Well, the spot in Jersey I had, I mean, I 237 00:12:06.659 --> 00:12:09.639 got it in April, so it was perfect for getting 238 00:12:09.659 --> 00:12:12.970 the propane done, you know? Uh, because that was the 239 00:12:13.009 --> 00:12:15.929 right time of year to buy, uh, you know, and 240 00:12:15.990 --> 00:12:18.720 so that's the way that worked out. But the other 241 00:12:18.750 --> 00:12:21.000 thing was I was working so much at that time, 242 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:23.279 like I would work, you know, 12 hour shifts and 243 00:12:23.299 --> 00:12:24.960 then would take me two hours to get home all 244 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:27.440 the time. So, I mean, you know, I was out 245 00:12:27.460 --> 00:12:29.919 of the house 15 hours a day, so I was 246 00:12:30.019 --> 00:12:31.960 only really looking to heat it up when I went 247 00:12:32.019 --> 00:12:34.679 to sleep so I could, you know, sleep and warm 248 00:12:35.830 --> 00:12:38.730 and that was it. So, I mean, my propane use 249 00:12:38.769 --> 00:12:42.519 was way low. Um, and you know, after a little while, 250 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:46.299 actually I had to start dripping the, uh, the stupid, uh, um, 251 00:12:46.700 --> 00:12:51.580 faucets because I was worried about the pipes freezing, you know? Um, and, 252 00:12:51.700 --> 00:12:53.299 and that's how cold I kept it in there. Like 253 00:12:53.330 --> 00:12:55.669 you'd walk into my house and like, it was colder 254 00:12:55.710 --> 00:12:58.309 in my house than it was outside in the winter 255 00:12:58.330 --> 00:12:58.789 in Jersey. 256 00:12:58.970 --> 00:12:59.470 You know what I mean? 257 00:13:00.230 --> 00:13:04.049 So, um, which is funny because nowadays, you know, there's 258 00:13:04.049 --> 00:13:05.850 38 degrees you're talking about. I would have been laughing 259 00:13:05.889 --> 00:13:09.480 at that in Jersey. You know, I used to crack up, 260 00:13:09.580 --> 00:13:11.840 especially when people would come from down south up to 261 00:13:11.860 --> 00:13:15.440 Jersey and they would show up in the winter because, 262 00:13:15.600 --> 00:13:18.299 you know, that was the cheaper time to come to Jersey. 263 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:21.960 And they would do that and they would be freezing 264 00:13:21.980 --> 00:13:27.529 to death, man, coming from Florida or Alabama or even 265 00:13:27.570 --> 00:13:32.370 North Carolina. Because there's some truth to that weirdness that 266 00:13:32.389 --> 00:13:34.009 we used to hear when we were younger about, well, 267 00:13:34.029 --> 00:13:38.299 your blood's thinner. And there's some truth to that. People 268 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:42.200 from down south would freeze to death in Jersey. You know, 269 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:44.039 and I'm like sitting there going, what? It's only like 270 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:47.179 30 degrees, only 20 degrees. You know, it gets bad 271 00:13:47.299 --> 00:13:50.379 once we break zero. You know what I mean? And 272 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:51.379 they were like zero. 273 00:13:51.419 --> 00:13:55.299 A little tidbit of information that I found last week 274 00:13:55.330 --> 00:13:58.370 that fits in here. Do you have, what's your blood type? 275 00:13:59.490 --> 00:14:04.850 A positive, like most, yeah. Mine's O positive. O positive 276 00:14:04.929 --> 00:14:08.750 is the most common. People with O positive blood actually 277 00:14:08.830 --> 00:14:10.590 have thinner blood. 278 00:14:11.009 --> 00:14:11.570 Oh, no kidding. 279 00:14:12.389 --> 00:14:14.570 And all the rest of the types, yeah. Some study 280 00:14:14.590 --> 00:14:16.480 that they did, I think it was in Japan or somewhere, 281 00:14:17.139 --> 00:14:20.360 and then they expanded it to Europe. And they started 282 00:14:20.379 --> 00:14:22.159 checking blood types and come find out if you got 283 00:14:22.220 --> 00:14:24.679 O positive, your blood's just a little bit thinner than 284 00:14:26.019 --> 00:14:26.639 everybody else's. 285 00:14:27.309 --> 00:14:29.269 Well, there's a lot of fun, a lot of fun 286 00:14:29.370 --> 00:14:32.529 facts about the human body that, you know, people don't 287 00:14:32.669 --> 00:14:36.230 want to admit to because it's not politically correct. But 288 00:14:36.490 --> 00:14:39.490 I mean, the fact is that your literal racial makeup 289 00:14:40.090 --> 00:14:43.620 affects the way that you handle like things like anesthesia 290 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:46.200 and stuff like that. 291 00:14:46.779 --> 00:14:50.600 Oh, yeah. Well, now I want somebody to explain this 292 00:14:50.639

--> 00:14:54.580 to me. In the summertime, if I set my air 293 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:59.840 conditioning at 65 degrees, you freeze your nuts off in 294 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:04.389 this house, okay? It's cold. Right. But in the winter, 295 00:15:05.570 --> 00:15:07.830 if I have the heat on and I set the 296 00:15:08.370 --> 00:15:14.389 thermostat at 65 degrees, it feels great. It's just slightly cool, 297 00:15:15.580 --> 00:15:18.830 and it doesn't get hot and stuffy. So I'm wondering, 298 00:15:18.950 --> 00:15:21.269 what is the difference? And I thought, well, in the 299 00:15:21.309 --> 00:15:22.610 summertime you have humidity. 300 00:15:23.070 --> 00:15:23.309 Right. 301 00:15:23.409 --> 00:15:26.769 But the air conditioner takes the humidity out. I mean, 302 00:15:26.789 --> 00:15:28.929 there's a puddle outside of my heat pump. 303 00:15:29.289 --> 00:15:29.549 Right. 304 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:31.840 And the AC is running where it's pulling all that 305 00:15:31.860 --> 00:15:32.860 humidity out of the air. 306 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:33.620 Yeah. 307 00:15:34.419 --> 00:15:36.720 But in the wintertime, the heat strips are running, and 308 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:41.809 that naturally dries the air. So it's dry both times. 309 00:15:41.889 --> 00:15:45.429 So why is it cold in the summer at 65 310 00:15:45.429 --> 00:15:48.080 but comfortable in the winter at 65? 311 00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:52.539 Well, there's a huge difference between drying out the air 312 00:15:52.580 --> 00:15:58.860 and literally extracting the moisture. And no matter what, even 313 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:03.720 when you are indoors and you're controlling the environment indoors, 314 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.639 you're still affected by the environment outside of the house. 315 00:16:08.570 --> 00:16:10.809 You know what I'm saying? You're still immersed in that 316 00:16:11.610 --> 00:16:17.120 and your body changes seasonally. So, you know, your metabolism, 317 00:16:17.179 --> 00:16:22.480 everything changes seasonally. And so you're affected by the fact 318 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:24.879 that it's, you know, 100 degrees outside, even when you 319 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:28.509 have the air conditioner blasting. Right now, if it drops 320 00:16:28.590 --> 00:16:31.690 below 100 degrees, you're sitting there going, oh, gee, now 321 00:16:31.750 --> 00:16:34.159 it's getting a little cold. You know what I mean? 322 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:38.059 But if it's over 100 degrees, that same temperature with 323 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:40.860 the air and it extracting, literally pulling some of the 324 00:16:40.899 --> 00:16:44.200 moisture out of the air, conditioning the air, which is 325 00:16:44.259 --> 00:16:48.460 the key there. It's not just cooling. It does affect 326 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:52.779 you differently. So, yeah, that makes sense to me. Also, 327 00:16:53.179 --> 00:16:57.759 you know, breathing in dry air, literally dry air because 328 00:16:58.000 -->

00:17:03.559 it's being cooked out is different, too. Yeah. Like, I've 329 00:17:03.580 --> 00:17:05.839 known plenty of people that used to, like, open their 330 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:09.579 windows in the winter in Jersey and blast the heat 331 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:12.500 on their feet, right? They'd keep their feet warm and 332 00:17:12.539 --> 00:17:19.089 their head cool. And that's actually a balanced way to be. 333 00:17:19.150 --> 00:17:20.670 You can get real comfortable with that. 334 00:17:21.329 --> 00:17:27.319 Well, that's how we controlled the heat in Switzerland. And 335 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:29.960 it was this way in Germany, too. They used steam heat, 336 00:17:29.980 --> 00:17:33.049 so they've got radiators. Right. And this was a huge 337 00:17:33.150 --> 00:17:39.440 four-story barn, three-and-a-half-story barn that was turned into apartments. So 338 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:41.980 it was a central heating system, and the heat cost 339 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:44.019 was included in your rent. When you paid rent, it 340 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.200 paid for your light bill, your heating bill, your water, sewer, everything. 341 00:17:47.220 --> 00:17:48.099 It was all in your rent. 342 00:17:48.420 --> 00:17:49.940 Oh, I love places like that, yeah. 343 00:17:50.180 --> 00:17:54.009 Yeah, but your rent ran high. Every now and then, 344 00:17:54.029 --> 00:17:58.609 when it was really cold, the landlord might come around 345 00:17:58.630 --> 00:18:01.430 and ask for an extra $ 25 from each apartment to 346 00:18:01.450 --> 00:18:04.309 help cut the cost on his fuel. But that's how 347 00:18:04.349 --> 00:18:07.460 you regulated it. it being hot in your apartment. We 348 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:09.099 had these huge case windows. 349 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:11.259 This had to be the eighties. This had to be 350 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:12.079 the eighties, right? 351 00:18:12.859 --> 00:18:14.930 No, this was, this was two thousands. 352 00:18:15.230 --> 00:18:15.609 Oh really? 353 00:18:15.829 --> 00:18:16.369 Okay. 354 00:18:16.390 --> 00:18:16.569 Wow. 355 00:18:16.609 --> 00:18:20.029 Yeah. You would crank, you crank open the, you know, 356 00:18:20.049 --> 00:18:24.569 you would can't the upper windows, um, in the room. 357 00:18:25.049 --> 00:18:28.390 And that would let that heat out and still stay 358 00:18:28.430 --> 00:18:32.019 comfortable where you're walking around. Cause we had like 11 359 00:18:32.019 --> 00:18:36.299 foot ceilings on each floor. We were on the third floor. 360 00:18:36.859 --> 00:18:42.259 We had the third floor and a half, like, loft 361 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:46.190 area above that, which was the third and a half story. Yeah. 362 00:18:46.930 --> 00:18:48.940 We had one, and then the guy across the hall 363 00:18:48.980 --> 00:18:50.640 from us had the other side. It was built the 364 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:53.779 same way. This was a huge freaking timber frame barn 365 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:55.980 turned into apartments. Pretty cool. 366 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:56.980 Pretty cool, yeah. 367 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.039 But that's how you regulate it is you'd crack those, 368 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:02.170 you'd vent those big windows out at the top and 369 00:19:02.210 --> 00:19:04.890 let that heat out, and it stayed comfortable where you 370 00:19:04.930 --> 00:19:06.710 were walking around. It was really nice. 371 00:19:07.130 --> 00:19:09.509 As I'm sitting here talking to BP, I'm reminded that, 372 00:19:10.230 --> 00:19:16.000 you know, we do have open lines, 319-527-5016. Happen to 373 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:18.750 see that Jimmy James has called in, so we're going 374 00:19:18.769 --> 00:19:21.680 to get to him real quick. But, you know, really, 375 00:19:22.029 --> 00:19:23.490 I got to tell you, I don't have a lot 376 00:19:23.529 --> 00:19:26.190 of news items pressing in my brain or anything else 377 00:19:26.210 --> 00:19:29.869 because it's just been another one of those blah weeks, 378 00:19:30.009 --> 00:19:33.490 which is kind of odd because aren't the midterm, like, 379 00:19:33.569 --> 00:19:36.069 selections coming up? I mean, isn't that supposed to be 380 00:19:36.109 --> 00:19:36.869 the big deal? 381 00:19:37.589 --> 00:19:39.329 Are people talking about that? Yeah, midterms are coming up 382 00:19:39.369 --> 00:19:43.089 in a couple weeks. But tonight, the most important thing 383 00:19:43.730 --> 00:19:45.170 is the World Series. 384 00:19:46.809 --> 00:19:49.670 See, now, what is it, the Brewers and who? Brewers. 385 00:19:50.210 --> 00:19:53.880 And Tampa Bay. There will be a first-time winner out 386 00:19:53.900 --> 00:19:57.000 of this World Series, which is a nice change. Two 387 00:19:57.019 --> 00:19:58.049 teams have never won it. 388 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:01.660 Well, although Milwaukee has won before, but not with the Brewers. 389 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:02.940 They won with the Braves. 390 00:20:03.539 --> 00:20:05.920 Well, but it's the Brewers. 391 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.299 Yeah, no, I know. But I'm just saying, they won 392 00:20:08.339 --> 00:20:12.700 with the Braves, not the Brewers. So, and the Tampa 393 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:17.849 Bay Rays, which were the Devil Rays, you know, they're newcomers. 394 00:20:18.170 --> 00:20:21.490 So how many years have the Tampa Bay Rays existed? 395 00:20:21.490 --> 00:20:24.420 96, I think is when they started. 96, was it then? 396 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:27.259 Yeah. 397 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:30.200 Because I think it was like 93 they brought in, what, 398 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:31.720 the Rockies and the Marlins. 399 00:20:32.339 --> 00:20:34.250 Oh, let's see. Tampa Bay Rays. 400 00:20:34.710 --> 00:20:37.349 It was either 92 or 93 they brought in the 401 00:20:37.809 --> 00:20:39.930 Marlins and the Rockies, but I'm trying to think. 402 00:20:39.950 --> 00:20:42.869 Yeah, they were going through their expansion phase. Tampa Bay, 403

00:20:42.930 --> 00:20:44.779 I want to say it was 96. I think they 404 00:20:44.819 --> 00:20:47.440 had a graphic on the screen here before the start 405 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:50.460 of the game when they were talking about Two teams 406 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:51.579 that have never won it. 407 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:54.660 Got to be. And I know that in collectible cards 408 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:58.480 right now, it's Jacob Mizorowski is the big deal because 409 00:20:58.500 --> 00:21:02.380 he's a young pitcher and with the Brewers, I believe. 410 00:21:03.700 --> 00:21:07.859 But the Tampa Bay, the Rays are funny. 98. Okay. 411 00:21:07.859 --> 00:21:09.250 98. I was thinking 96. 412 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:09.480 Yeah. 413 00:21:09.500 --> 00:21:12.200 See, I wasn't sure, but I'm thinking to myself, that 414 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:13.940 was a little too close to when they brought in 415 00:21:13.980 --> 00:21:16.039 the Rockies and the Marlins because that was the first 416 00:21:16.099 --> 00:21:17.359 expansion in a long time. 417 00:21:18.130 --> 00:21:22.750 They were approved in 95, and then they began playing 418 00:21:23.049 --> 00:21:25.009 in 98. So they had three years to get their 419 00:21:26.230 --> 00:21:27.170 franchise together. 420 00:21:27.430 --> 00:21:29.690 Yeah, because they used to do an expansion draft. I 421 00:21:29.710 --> 00:21:31.430 don't know if they still do that kind of mess. 422 00:21:31.710 --> 00:21:36.410 And obviously, you know, with the Washington Nationals and all that, 423 00:21:36.430 --> 00:21:40.630 I mean, they were just the Expos who got moved. But, 424 00:21:41.369 --> 00:21:45.690 you know. It's interesting. I know the Mets were the, like, 425 00:21:45.769 --> 00:21:49.230 shortest team to go from expansion to World Series win 426 00:21:49.269 --> 00:21:53.130 in the 60s. I think maybe the Marlins beat that record. 427 00:21:55.029 --> 00:22:00.420 Got it done quicker at some point, but I'm not sure. Anyways, 428 00:22:00.660 --> 00:22:02.700 Jimmy James is on the line. Let's get to him, 429 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:06.720 see what's on his mind. Jimmy, you know, I got 430 00:22:06.740 --> 00:22:08.819 your blues song there and even included it in short 431 00:22:08.859 --> 00:22:16.059 attention span DJ theater. How are you doing, Jimmy? Oh, crap. 432 00:22:16.700 --> 00:22:18.539 All right. You can't hear him, can you? 433 00:22:18.779 --> 00:22:19.769 You can't hear him, can you? 434 00:22:21.420 --> 00:22:21.680 No. 435 00:22:22.269 --> 00:22:24.490 Very muted in the background. 436 00:22:25.849 --> 00:22:28.230 Yeah, what's funny is, Jimmy, I can hear me and 437 00:22:28.269 --> 00:22:31.069 BP echoing louder than I heard your voice. I heard 438 00:22:31.109 --> 00:22:31.970 your voice vaguely. 439 00:22:31.990 --> 00:22:36.690 I heard your voice vaguely. I'll be back. I'll be back. 440 00:22:36.710 --> 00:22:40.529 All right. I believe Jimmy said he'll be back, so 441 00:22:40.650 --> 00:22:44.160 I guess he's going to hang up and call back in. Um, anyways, 442 00:22:45.369 --> 00:22:46.930 I don't know what that is. Like Jimmy has to, 443 00:22:47.650 --> 00:22:49.970 has to do a test run that doesn't work first 444 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:51.640 and then he'll call back in and it'll work. 445 00:22:51.700 --> 00:22:56.650 Right. Anyway, I'm looking at I was looking at the Marlins. 446 00:22:56.869 --> 00:22:57.190 Go ahead. 447 00:22:57.569 --> 00:23:03.779 They came about in 93. Right. And won their series 448 00:23:03.859 --> 00:23:07.460 first series in 97. So that was for four years. Yeah. 449 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:09.839 See, they beat the Mets because the Mets came into 450 00:23:09.900 --> 00:23:14.259 existence in 62 and won the series first time in 69. 451 00:23:14.259 --> 00:23:16.400 So that was seven years. That was the short one. 452 00:23:16.589 --> 00:23:18.930 And then the Marlins, like I said, beat him. OK, 453 00:23:18.970 --> 00:23:22.329 I was right. I just couldn't remember the exact year 454 00:23:22.349 --> 00:23:24.809 because I think that was it. Dontrell Willis, I think, 455 00:23:24.849 --> 00:23:28.450 was the pitcher of record. That was the big deal. 456 00:23:28.490 --> 00:23:31.750 The young pitcher at that time. The expansion drafts are 457 00:23:31.769 --> 00:23:35.250 always interesting, though, because they pick up some veterans and 458 00:23:35.490 --> 00:23:37.769 they pick up a bunch of guys that nobody wants because, 459 00:23:37.789 --> 00:23:40.880 you know, they like the other teams get to protect 460 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:42.000 a certain amount of guys. 461 00:23:42.019 --> 00:23:47.230 Yeah. Yeah, the team that I was part owner of, 462 00:23:47.289 --> 00:23:52.019 when they started, baseball was here way back in the 30s. 463 00:23:53.049 --> 00:23:57.430 And then after the war, it went on. It finally 464 00:23:57.470 --> 00:24:02.309 died out. And that league fell apart. It was Wilson 465 00:24:02.390 --> 00:24:08.730 and Kinston and Jackson. Everybody had a team. So the first... 466 00:24:10.099 --> 00:24:13.309 The first team of this new era when I got 467 00:24:13.369 --> 00:24:16.720 into it was a co-op team. Well, I wasn't a 468 00:24:17.440 --> 00:24:20.710 part of it then. They had four players from Atlanta. 469 00:24:20.809 --> 00:24:25.630 They had four players from Philly. So it was a 470 00:24:25.690 --> 00:24:29.309 made-up roster. And after two years is when we signed 471 00:24:29.349 --> 00:24:35.200 with the Blue Jays as a team for them. 472 00:24:35.420 --> 00:24:38.039 Yes, and then there's these independent teams. Like the Macon 473 00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:40.259 Bacon has been independent a long time. 474 00:24:41.339 --> 00:24:45.769 Yeah, you see a lot of those. And what are 475 00:24:45.789 --> 00:24:51.750 they calling the league? It's basically college players join these teams. 476 00:24:51.789 --> 00:24:56.450 They just put a team down in Moorhead, I

think. 477 00:24:57.619 --> 00:24:59.099 The Savannah Bananas. 478 00:24:59.259 --> 00:25:00.660 Yeah, Savannah Bananas, right. 479 00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:01.779 Are one of those teams. 480 00:25:02.180 --> 00:25:06.099 They come through and play the make and bacon often. Jimmy, 481 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:07.539 you're back on. Let's see if we can hear you 482 00:25:07.579 --> 00:25:07.940 this time. 483 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:11.619 Check one, two, three. 484 00:25:11.819 --> 00:25:14.440 Hey, there he is. Okay, you heard him, right, BP? Yeah, 485 00:25:15.269 --> 00:25:18.170 I got him. Okay, we can hear you now, Jimmy. Sorry. 486 00:25:18.309 --> 00:25:20.130 Go ahead. What's on your mind, man? 487 00:25:23.569 --> 00:25:28.529 Well, what's your thoughts on this? It just so happens 488 00:25:28.569 --> 00:25:34.539 that where I live, there's two unresolved missing persons cases 489 00:25:34.619 --> 00:25:35.089 from the 60s. 490 00:25:36.529 --> 00:25:41.880 Really? Okay. I know nothing about them, I think. Although, 491 00:25:41.910 --> 00:25:43.079 who knows? Maybe I do. 492 00:25:43.099 --> 00:25:49.279 No, no, no. We got to speak a little bit 493 00:25:49.380 --> 00:25:50.519 in innuendo. 494 00:25:51.259 --> 00:25:51.420 Uh-oh. 495 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:53.259 Okay. Go ahead. 496 00:25:53.539 --> 00:25:59.509 Let's not get too specific here. But anyways, the point is, 497 00:26:00.190 --> 00:26:03.490 this is from the 60s, right? Okay. Same as in... 498 00:26:04.500 --> 00:26:08.089 These people that are supposed to be missing, to be clear, 499 00:26:08.109 --> 00:26:08.609 they're dead. 500 00:26:09.549 --> 00:26:09.829 Okay. 501 00:26:12.009 --> 00:26:12.869 They died the. 502 00:26:12.789 --> 00:26:18.569 Day that they supposedly disappeared. 50 years, you know, I've 503 00:26:18.769 --> 00:26:24.259 heard from three, four different people. The same name. There's 504 00:26:24.339 --> 00:26:29.400 only one suspect. I know he did it. And thanks 505 00:26:29.460 --> 00:26:33.720 to new developments from things I've heard, I even think 506 00:26:33.819 --> 00:26:36.119 I know where the crazy bastard buried them. 507 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:44.930 Really? So you're personally in on this? Well, I could be. 508 00:26:45.529 --> 00:26:49.569 I'm asking you, should I get involved in this? How 509 00:26:49.589 --> 00:26:51.680 does this benefit me? I mean. 510 00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:59.009 Well, here's the thing, Jimmy. It so happens I can 511 00:26:59.049 --> 00:27:05.359 provide you with advice. So you'd want to be careful 512 00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:10.450 that you're not implicated. Just speaking as a guy who 513 00:27:10.470 --> 00:27:17.799 has been investigated seven different homicides, you know, and the 514 00:27:17.859 --> 00:27:22.359 funny thing is six times they were absolutely foolishly wrong. But, 515 00:27:23.339 --> 00:27:26.200 you know, you get implicated if your name just gets 516 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:29.720 mentioned in the

wrong spot. Now, cold cases are interesting 517 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:35.029 because sometimes it really gets ignored. It just sits there, 518 00:27:35.230 --> 00:27:42.569 you know. And it's like a curiosity forever. But depending 519 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:46.130 on if there's surviving family or anybody advocating for it, 520 00:27:47.829 --> 00:27:50.789 you know, if you have any sort of knowledge, they 521 00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:53.410 will come after you like you're a suspect, even if 522 00:27:53.450 --> 00:27:59.980 you're not necessarily involved. And so I would be very 523 00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:06.029 cautious about. But if you want to do drop hits 524 00:28:06.049 --> 00:28:10.289 because you think this should be solved, quite frankly, I 525 00:28:10.329 --> 00:28:12.970 think some people deserve to drop off the face of 526 00:28:13.009 --> 00:28:18.619 the earth. But that's part of my own personal viewpoint sometimes. 527 00:28:19.420 --> 00:28:22.960 And some people should be thankful certain people dropped off 528 00:28:22.980 --> 00:28:26.839 the face of the earth sometimes. I got– wait a second. 529 00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:27.720 I have an idea. 530 00:28:27.740 --> 00:28:28.640 Go ahead. 531 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.630 Jimmy, do you have– Do you have links and documentation 532 00:28:33.750 --> 00:28:37.450 to the stories behind the two missing persons? 533 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:42.160 Yes. 534 00:28:43.579 --> 00:28:47.559 Oh, okay. You know, Chuck, he could send us that stuff. 535 00:28:48.059 --> 00:28:48.420 He could. 536 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.559 In links. We could do the research on it for 537 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:52.380 a couple weeks. 538 00:28:52.819 --> 00:28:53.140 That's true. 539 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:57.069 We could actually do a podcast on another night covering 540 00:28:57.089 --> 00:28:58.150 the disappearances. 541 00:28:59.390 --> 00:29:00.069 This is true. 542 00:29:01.569 --> 00:29:09.410 And see, I, the thing that I don't know, I 543 00:29:09.450 --> 00:29:11.789 can see the truth. I mean, I could tell you 544 00:29:11.809 --> 00:29:17.480 right now, based on what I've heard analysis, quite frankly, 545 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.160 just this Kennedy stuff, you know, you learn how to investigate. 546 00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.680 Well, that's true. Um, I, I gotta be frank with 547 00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:29.150 you though. I mean, it was a, uh, A unique 548 00:29:29.210 --> 00:29:33.660 challenge when I looked into my father's death, which was 549 00:29:33.740 --> 00:29:39.309 different than looking at the Kennedy assassination, obviously. But and, 550 00:29:39.329 --> 00:29:43.420 you know, discrimination. the misgivings of certain family members, I 551 00:29:43.500 --> 00:29:48.740 found that actually law enforcement got it right the first time. But, 552 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:51.940 you know, that was not the thing that everybody thought 553 00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:55.230 I was going to find. But it was very, very 554 00:29:55.289 --> 00:29:59.380 different doing a case like that. And quite frankly. Just 555 00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:04.240 because you heard something, you know, rumors and all that 556 00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:07.819 kind of stuff, you know, it's interesting because if you 557 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:12.559 just went on rumors and, you know, the speculation of 558 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:17.279 the time, like Lyndon Johnson is definitely the killer of 559 00:30:17.299 --> 00:30:17.670 John F. 560 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:18.019 Kennedy. 561 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:21.779 You know what I'm saying? Like truly in Texas and 562 00:30:21.819 --> 00:30:25.869 in other parts of the country, that was the ultimate 563 00:30:26.029 --> 00:30:29.069 word on the street. You know what I mean? um 564 00:30:29.450 --> 00:30:31.450 johnson got him out of the way he was in 565 00:30:31.490 --> 00:30:33.670 texas after all which. 566 00:30:33.509 --> 00:30:36.890 Brings up something um what do you have what is 567 00:30:36.950 --> 00:30:42.470 the best copy of the subruder film that you. 568 00:30:42.369 --> 00:30:48.609 Have well currently i would say that there's two choices 569 00:30:48.670 --> 00:30:51.619 there one is the cd-rom believe it or not from 570 00:30:51.670 --> 00:30:55.200 years ago from the visual investigation which by the way 571 00:30:55.259 --> 00:30:57.740 i do have a copy of that for sale at 572 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:01.069 the moment if somebody wants it, but it's the old, uh, 573 00:31:01.180 --> 00:31:06.380 it's the old CD-ROM, uh, that has the best firsthand 574 00:31:06.420 --> 00:31:10.799 quality in a digital format, uh, for sure that you 575 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:13.519 can access, but they're kind of hard to find nowadays, 576 00:31:13.720 --> 00:31:17.130 you know? Well, uh, but I do happen to have 577 00:31:17.230 --> 00:31:19.210 one currently and I'm willing to sell it if somebody 578 00:31:19.250 --> 00:31:23.309 needs it. But, um, that's the Macmillan copy of the film, 579 00:31:23.470 --> 00:31:25.809 which most people talk about. Now there's one mistake in 580 00:31:25.849 --> 00:31:28.900 there where they reversed one of the frames, uh, Uh, 581 00:31:29.059 --> 00:31:31.339 it doesn't make a whole lot of difference in any 582 00:31:31.380 --> 00:31:34.039 of the significant sequences, but they did work very well. 583 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.559 I forget which frame it is, but they did, they did, 584 00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.019 you know, misplaced one because they did individual scans of 585 00:31:41.059 --> 00:31:44.980 the frames and literally put them in there and restabilized 586 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.000 it even better than Grodin did. Um, you know, because 587 00:31:49.019 --> 00:31:51.589 they had the benefit of the computer adjusting for each 588 00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:55.009 piece and Sort of like what that guy Costello did 589 00:31:55.250 --> 00:31:58.849 years ago. Which, by the

way, frame by frame, his 590 00:31:59.309 --> 00:32:02.829 database is still up there. And frame by frame, his 591 00:32:02.930 --> 00:32:04.289 is really clean. Yeah, go ahead. 592 00:32:04.470 --> 00:32:07.170 I used it last weekend. And that's why I was asking. 593 00:32:07.250 --> 00:32:12.390 This guy that I talked to on X, he was 594 00:32:13.089 --> 00:32:16.730 trying to promote The Driver Did It. And I'm telling him, 595 00:32:16.980 --> 00:32:19.480 you know, you need a better copy of Zapruder. 596 00:32:19.700 --> 00:32:19.980 Yeah. 597 00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:26.319 He's got one of the old original copies that As they... Oh, crap. 598 00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:30.279 What's-his-name is getting on the trunk. And they're going down 599 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:36.660 towards the railroad overpass. Things black out in the front seat. 600 00:32:37.569 --> 00:32:41.109 And you see this one flash. And it's actually a 601 00:32:41.150 --> 00:32:46.230 reflection off of Kellerman's head. But in all that darkness, 602 00:32:46.329 --> 00:32:48.390 you see that one little flash. That's the barrel of 603 00:32:48.410 --> 00:32:51.250 the gun. Dude, you need a better copy. So I 604 00:32:51.329 --> 00:32:54.200 sent him a link... But I also sent him four 605 00:32:54.259 --> 00:32:57.079 frames from Costella's enhancements. 606 00:32:57.180 --> 00:32:58.980 Yeah, his are pretty clean, to be honest. 607 00:32:59.019 --> 00:33:00.920 And I thought, you know, if you can, I told him, 608 00:33:00.940 --> 00:33:03.119 I said, if you see a gun in here, I said, 609 00:33:03.140 --> 00:33:05.220 where does he take, for one, where does he take 610 00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:09.359 one hand off the steering wheel? The left hand stays 611 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.170 on the wheel. He didn't turn and shoot him. 612 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.769 Well, the other thing is, just being realistic, okay, sitting 613 00:33:16.829 --> 00:33:19.529 in the front seat of a car, driving a car, which, 614 00:33:20.009 --> 00:33:23.940 you know, he swings around like Annie Oakley. You know, 615 00:33:24.059 --> 00:33:26.759 and he fires it. I mean, you got to be 616 00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:27.619 real about this. 617 00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:29.779 Well, and then I made a point to him. I said, 618 00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:32.720 wait a minute. I said, if you look, I said, 619 00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:35.609 if he's sitting in the front driver's seat and he 620 00:33:35.619 --> 00:33:38.650 shoots someone in the very back passenger seat, he's going 621 00:33:38.670 --> 00:33:41.930 to be shooting in an angle based on the car 622 00:33:43.049 --> 00:33:46.589 looking at the car. He's going to be shooting from 623 00:33:46.710 --> 00:33:52.650 right to left. Yeah. Now, how did Kennedy suddenly go 624 00:33:52.730 --> 00:33:57.240 busting back to the right looking at the car? Of course, 625 00:33:57.259 --> 00:33:59.700 we all know Kennedy's head went back to his left 626 00:34:00.299 --> 00:34:02.859 after the fatal headshot. So how are you going to 627 00:34:02.940 --> 00:34:06.799 shoot somebody from the same direction that his head flies 628 00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:10.559 with the shot from the front seat? You couldn't hit 629 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:12.559 him on that side of the head unless he was 630 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:16.800 turned looking at your back. And then, like you say, 631 00:34:16.820 --> 00:34:18.760 you're going to pull off an Annie Oakley shot, not 632 00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:19.340 even looking. 633 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:25.119 Yeah, I mean, and there's no evidence that that guy 634 00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.380 ever had that kind of skill with a firearm, by 635 00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:27.619 the way. 636 00:34:28.380 --> 00:34:30.619 Well, you wouldn't think Kellerman would stop him? 637 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.849 Well, obviously, Kellerman would have to be in on it. 638 00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:36.730 And the other thing is, you know, they talk about 639 00:34:36.750 --> 00:34:39.869 the head movement. The reason is that was always explained 640 00:34:39.909 --> 00:34:42.530 away by the tap on the brakes, because you do 641 00:34:42.570 --> 00:34:45.909 see the brake lights come on. But if you're seeing 642 00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:47.900 the brake lights come on, you should have a better 643 00:34:47.940 --> 00:34:51.860 copy of the Zapruder film. Exactly. Which kills me because 644 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.800 if you look at clear pictures, there is no evidence 645 00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:55.340 of a gun. 646 00:34:56.320 --> 00:35:00.500 There's a problem with the brake lights, too, in that film. 647 00:35:00.900 --> 00:35:01.139 Right. 648 00:35:01.469 --> 00:35:05.550 Based on the position of the sun, you could very easily, 649 00:35:05.590 --> 00:35:08.150 the way the tailpiece was on the Lincoln and the 650 00:35:08.190 --> 00:35:12.309 way the lenses were, the sun hitting the lens is 651 00:35:12.329 --> 00:35:13.119 going to light it up. 652 00:35:13.960 --> 00:35:15.159 Well, especially. 653 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:18.929 Because everybody says, well, the limo came to a stop. 654 00:35:19.690 --> 00:35:22.349 It's been proven. The limo did not come to a stop. 655 00:35:22.449 --> 00:35:26.900 The cars behind them... when the limo slowed. 656 00:35:26.659 --> 00:35:29.440 Down, went to slow. 657 00:35:29.099 --> 00:35:32.539 Down, and they created the chain effect where everybody hits 658 00:35:32.579 --> 00:35:34.780 their brakes, and eventually the guy at the end comes 659 00:35:34.820 --> 00:35:37.159 to a stop until the other ones are moving again. 660 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.090 Or a guy before the end of the chain because 661 00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:43.510 eventually you're going to stop short. Somebody's not going to 662 00:35:43.570 --> 00:35:47.849 catch it rolling right and realize that they're slowing down 663 00:35:47.989 --> 00:35:50.710 and then therefore end up actually coming to a

full stop, 664 00:35:50.750 --> 00:35:53.690 but the limo does not stop. Yeah, I know. And 665 00:35:53.750 --> 00:35:56.570 people have claimed that there's a full stop. Even Costello 666 00:35:56.610 --> 00:35:58.530 claims it. I'm like, I don't know why, because your 667 00:35:58.570 --> 00:35:59.889 clear film doesn't show it. 668 00:36:00.469 --> 00:36:02.429 I know. You got the whole damn film right there. 669 00:36:02.940 --> 00:36:03.800 Where did it stop? 670 00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.679 Well, you know, there you go. What can I say? 671 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.280 That's like trying to explain David Lifton's crazy stuff all 672 00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.219 the time. I mean, I could never do it. You know, 673 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:17.219 I appreciate someone working with me. 674 00:36:18.739 --> 00:36:20.739 I'm going to direct this, guys. 675 00:36:20.900 --> 00:36:24.159 My example. See, what I've come up with is these 676 00:36:24.300 --> 00:36:28.449 two 60s cases. I kind of want to do this 677 00:36:28.530 --> 00:36:33.110 to prove, yeah, you can actually solve cases from the 60s. 678 00:36:33.889 --> 00:36:35.550 It isn't a million years ago. 679 00:36:36.010 --> 00:36:38.090 Well, no, there are cases that are solved all the 680 00:36:38.150 --> 00:36:40.309 time from decades ago, many. 681 00:36:40.409 --> 00:36:50.050 See, the funny thing about this case is, for certain reasons... Yeah, 682 00:36:50.710 --> 00:36:51.909 people didn't want. 683 00:36:51.670 --> 00:36:53.489 To solve it. 684 00:36:53.570 --> 00:36:55.769 Well, but there you go. 685 00:36:55.929 --> 00:36:58.650 The guy that's been dead, or. 686 00:36:58.230 --> 00:37:00.969 The guy that did, the dead for 20 years. 687 00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:02.500 Right. 688 00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.659 And there is people, actually. I don't know if the 689 00:37:06.699 --> 00:37:11.340 man's wife's still alive, but he has kids. And anyways, 690 00:37:11.420 --> 00:37:16.739 this is what I figured out. I mean, it's an 691 00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:23.610 interesting story. A disturbing story, but.... 692 00:37:25.820 --> 00:37:28.219 Solve it on a podcast, and then you can get 693 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.559 a little bit of legal protection for being a journalist. 694 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:34.599 Yeah, see, now that's the interesting thing, is if we actually, like, 695 00:37:34.699 --> 00:37:37.239 did it on here, then. 696 00:37:37.260 --> 00:37:40.860 I'm not doing anything here. I'm speaking in vagaries. I'm 697 00:37:40.889 --> 00:37:42.489 not giving you no names or nothing. 698 00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:43.429 No, I understand. 699 00:37:43.449 --> 00:37:45.530 Well, if you want to solve it and get it 700 00:37:45.650 --> 00:37:46.710 out there that it's solved. 701 00:37:47.289 --> 00:37:50.349 But what I'm saying is that if we did that, 702 00:37:50.550 --> 00:37:55.469 we would have an additional layer of like there's no 703 00:37:55.510 --> 00:37:58.989 way that we're involved in it. So if we studied 704 00:37:59.070 --> 00:38:02.489 it and put it out there, it would be just 705 00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:04.159 roll this around in your head. 706 00:38:04.380 --> 00:38:08.599 These dudes were killed in the 60s. There's no way 707 00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:09.480 we could have done it. 708 00:38:09.969 --> 00:38:14.409 Yeah, no, I understand. But what I'm saying is that 709 00:38:14.510 --> 00:38:18.650 there's no direct connection. There's no personal connection in any way, shape, 710 00:38:18.750 --> 00:38:19.210 or form. 711 00:38:19.469 --> 00:38:20.789 What year in the 60s? 712 00:38:21.409 --> 00:38:24.159 Well, there you go. I mean, you know, BP could 713 00:38:24.179 --> 00:38:25.719 have been a five-year-old serial killer. 714 00:38:25.739 --> 00:38:28.519 I might need an alibi. 715 00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:31.659 All right, well, I can't speak for BP. 716 00:38:31.739 --> 00:38:32.079 There you go. 717 00:38:32.610 --> 00:38:33.119 How else? 718 00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:35.679 But I was born in the 70s, so I'm off 719 00:38:35.699 --> 00:38:37.000 the hook, yeah. 720 00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:42.300 I want to hear my prosecutorial little sentence. I mean, 721 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:46.050 look at the, what's the deal with, oh, Helter Skelter. 722 00:38:46.750 --> 00:38:51.869 I guarantee my, I guarantee I'm way more correct on 723 00:38:51.929 --> 00:38:56.780 this than old Bugle OCD. was on manson he's full. 724 00:38:56.739 --> 00:38:59.679 Of crap yeah well but bugliosi was full of crap 725 00:38:59.780 --> 00:39:01.679 about a lot of things and he was he was 726 00:39:01.699 --> 00:39:04.110 a dirty dirty bastard when it came to handling a 727 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.309 lot of things behind the scenes nobody knew about it 728 00:39:07.269 --> 00:39:12.030 but uh o'neill o'neill dug it up which uh that's 729 00:39:12.050 --> 00:39:15.630 why i love his work file it's he he left 730 00:39:15.690 --> 00:39:18.460 a lot of stuff out of that book too Because, 731 00:39:18.739 --> 00:39:22.159 you know, probably the legal department didn't allow it. But 732 00:39:22.780 --> 00:39:24.699 there was a lot of stuff going on. I mean, 733 00:39:25.179 --> 00:39:27.489 he's throwing women down the steps that he knocked up 734 00:39:27.590 --> 00:39:29.409 on the side and all kinds of stuff. Yeah. 735 00:39:30.300 --> 00:39:30.800 Still alive? 736 00:39:30.969 --> 00:39:31.610 No, he's gone. 737 00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:36.789 No, no, he's long dead. He died of cancer 15, 738 00:39:36.789 --> 00:39:38.139 20 years ago. 739 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.739 Yeah, something like that. He did. 740 00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.280 So this is the scenario. 741 00:39:43.300 --> 00:39:44.420 So check it out. 742 00:39:46.340 --> 00:39:52.730 Picture 100 years ago. A crazy kid from around here 743 00:39:53.369 --> 00:39:58.809 got his kicks digging up dead people, apparently. This is 744 00:39:58.849 --> 00:40:04.809 by his own admission.

Only he threw in three imaginary friends. 745 00:40:05.570 --> 00:40:07.949 Oh, we were just crazy kids, you know. 746 00:40:08.030 --> 00:40:12.139 Digging up dead people in that ghost town. Oh, I 747 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.300 believe him, except I don't believe there was no friends. 748 00:40:18.269 --> 00:40:21.929 I certainly didn't go around digging up dead people with friends. 749 00:40:22.150 --> 00:40:24.489 He's full of crap. A hundred years ago? 750 00:40:24.550 --> 00:40:25.170 Yeah, right. 751 00:40:26.489 --> 00:40:31.670 Anyways. So he's clearly touched in the head. So then 752 00:40:31.710 --> 00:40:34.309 we get to World War II where he serves in 753 00:40:34.349 --> 00:40:38.829 the Pacific. I suspect he may have been a POW. 754 00:40:39.250 --> 00:40:42.280 I want to check that out. And he got even 755 00:40:42.340 --> 00:40:45.880 more all screwed up in the head, I suspect. He 756 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.420 comes back. And what do you know? He gets involved 757 00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:56.059 with a law enforcement agency. Move ahead. Then there's this 758 00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:01.650 incident with this fella who ran a business. Not a 759 00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:06.929 business he owned, but he was the basically general manager. 760 00:41:07.269 --> 00:41:07.610 Okay. 761 00:41:07.789 --> 00:41:15.590 He supposedly leaves for a deposit cash thing. $ 5, 000, which 762 00:41:15.650 --> 00:41:20.929 wasn't nothing in the 60s, but let's get real. And 763 00:41:21.030 --> 00:41:25.969 supposedly his car was later found at the airport with 764 00:41:26.010 --> 00:41:30.150 the keys. And the story was he took his $ 5, 000, 765 00:41:29.989 --> 00:41:37.840 went off to Jamaica, but sipped tropical drinks. How about no? 766 00:41:39.030 --> 00:41:41.409 Not with five grand, no. I mean, that's enough to 767 00:41:41.469 --> 00:41:45.010 rob somebody, but that's not enough to run away with. 768 00:41:46.780 --> 00:41:50.300 Well, the man was a general manager, was middle-aged, had 769 00:41:50.340 --> 00:41:53.760 a wife, had kids. No, no, no, no, no, no. 770 00:41:54.059 --> 00:41:56.380 Oh, he might have hated that. 771 00:41:56.420 --> 00:41:59.920 By the way, the safe was full of hundreds of 772 00:42:00.019 --> 00:42:03.559 thousands of dollars, and yet he only took five grand. 773 00:42:03.780 --> 00:42:06.820 Yeah, no, that sounds, if anything, somebody tried to rob him, 774 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.519 you know, that kind of thing. But he's not running 775 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:12.699 away with just five grand. No, that's stupid. 776 00:42:14.289 --> 00:42:18.329 And not being heard by, not making police contact in 777 00:42:18.329 --> 00:42:21.030 60 years. No, no way. 778 00:42:22.190 --> 00:42:25.760 Well, you know, people have vanished in weird ways, changed 779 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.719 their names. And it was easier at a certain point when, 780 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:33.239 you know, paperwork wasn't all digitized

and you didn't have 781 00:42:33.300 --> 00:42:36.969 real ID and stuff. But, oh, by the way, I 782 00:42:36.989 --> 00:42:41.190 got a message here saying that actually the Milwaukee Brewers 783 00:42:41.269 --> 00:42:44.329 were the Seattle Pilots. If you remember, there was a 784 00:42:44.349 --> 00:42:48.989 team called the Seattle Pilots. The Washington Senators, I remember, 785 00:42:49.030 --> 00:42:53.269 became the Texas Rangers, right? So, you know, there were 786 00:42:53.289 --> 00:42:55.710 teams that changed names. And like I said, you know, 787 00:42:55.730 --> 00:42:59.090 the current Washington Nationals, they were the Expos. So the 788 00:42:59.130 --> 00:43:01.590 Brewers are actually the Pilots. I don't think the Pilots 789 00:43:01.650 --> 00:43:04.239 ever won a World Series either. And God knows where 790 00:43:04.260 --> 00:43:08.630 the pilots came from. I could probably look back at it, 791 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:10.699 you know, but that was before they got the Mariners, 792 00:43:10.780 --> 00:43:16.230 I guess. Anyways, but, Jimmy, hang on, because I know 793 00:43:16.269 --> 00:43:17.969 there's going to be more to that, but we also 794 00:43:18.010 --> 00:43:23.280 have another caller. And I want to hear from Danny. So, 795 00:43:23.300 --> 00:43:24.300 how are you doing, Danny? 796 00:43:26.019 --> 00:43:27.079 I'm hanging in there. 797 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:32.570 Yeah, I remember the Seattle Pilots. And speaking of law enforcement, 798 00:43:32.730 --> 00:43:35.500 and I've heard you in the past say that the 799 00:43:35.579 --> 00:43:37.699 craziest stuff happens in Florida. 800 00:43:37.739 --> 00:43:39.480 There's crazy people. Is that correct, Chuck? 801 00:43:40.099 --> 00:43:42.480 I have said that. Yes. 802 00:43:42.699 --> 00:43:44.719 Yeah, okay. 803 00:43:44.739 --> 00:43:47.480 I saw an article speaking of law enforcement. There's some 804 00:43:47.539 --> 00:43:51.639 county sheriff that he went on a wellness check, and 805 00:43:51.659 --> 00:43:56.630 the man had died. And he stole his information, was 806 00:43:56.690 --> 00:43:58.699 living in his house for several years. 807 00:43:59.030 --> 00:44:00.260 Did you see that story? 808 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.579 No, I didn't see one recently. 809 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:07.739 Yeah, there was one recently on ABC News. 810 00:44:08.260 --> 00:44:11.460 And then they put him for like $ 25, 000 bond or 811 00:44:12.500 --> 00:44:14.699 what was the thing that all the media, the local 812 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:16.300 media was waiting for him to come out. 813 00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:17.000 Of the courthouse. 814 00:44:17.619 --> 00:44:19.880 And he just took off running. You just see the cameras. 815 00:44:19.900 --> 00:44:23.889 He's just chucking his car. He never stopped him. He 816 00:44:23.909 --> 00:44:24.389 said anything. 817 00:44:24.750 --> 00:44:25.719 Well, when you. 818 00:44:25.730 --> 00:44:26.849 Is that typical of Florida? 819 00:44:27.309 --> 00:44:30.920 Yeah, well, that's actually a little more sophisticated than what 820 00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:32.900 you get out of Florida, usually. You know? 821 00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:38.019 Yeah, this guy, he's made headlines around the world off 822 00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:38.519 this story. 823 00:44:38.699 --> 00:44:44.050 Yeah, because that is a real sophisticated thing in Florida. Usually, 824 00:44:44.150 --> 00:44:47.309 it's like, I decided to go after the alligator with 825 00:44:47.349 --> 00:44:48.050 a chainsaw. 826 00:44:49.010 --> 00:44:49.150 And. 827 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.880 Like, that's the beginning of the story in Florida. There's 828 00:44:53.940 --> 00:44:56.739 even the term Florida man, which I know they made 829 00:44:56.780 --> 00:44:59.820 a whole documentary series about it with all kinds of 830 00:44:59.860 --> 00:45:03.539 weird stuff that's gone in Florida. Like these two best 831 00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.860 friends that shot each other with pistols, you know, and stuff. 832 00:45:06.929 --> 00:45:09.269 And then they both get paroled and end up living 833 00:45:09.289 --> 00:45:13.809 together anyway. uh like weird stuff like that uh you 834 00:45:13.829 --> 00:45:18.110 know stuff with alligators and uh giant snakes getting stuck 835 00:45:18.170 --> 00:45:21.090 in like vending machines and sticking out their heads when 836 00:45:21.130 --> 00:45:23.340 somebody goes to buy like a little bag of doritos 837 00:45:23.969 --> 00:45:26.380 i mean things like this happen all the time in 838 00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:29.800 florida and whenever there's a flood by the way like 839 00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.179 alligators and crazy things float by along with meth labs 840 00:45:33.949 --> 00:45:38.079 in certain places it is just a mixture of open 841 00:45:38.179 --> 00:45:41.639 air insane asylum in Florida all the time I mean 842 00:45:41.659 --> 00:45:44.980 BP disagree with me if you like but like almost 843 00:45:45.019 --> 00:45:47.960 whenever you hear one of them crazy like hillbilly stories 844 00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.340 I don't think Kentucky I don't think the Carolinas I 845 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:55.869 don't even think Georgia sometimes Alabama and maybe Texas but 846 00:45:56.110 --> 00:45:58.949 I mean almost always we go oh that must be 847 00:45:58.989 --> 00:46:00.940 Florida Yeah, Florida. 848 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:03.280 There for a while, they were making big news on 849 00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:06.550 what was the bath salts and meth. 850 00:46:06.780 --> 00:46:10.110 Yeah, remember the stories? Okay, Danny, remember the stories about 851 00:46:10.150 --> 00:46:12.250 the guys who were like, oh, look, the zombies are 852 00:46:12.289 --> 00:46:15.710 here because there's people, like, literally eating each other after 853 00:46:15.809 --> 00:46:17.389 smoking bath salts and stuff? 854 00:46:17.409 --> 00:46:17.570 Yeah. 855 00:46:17.869 --> 00:46:21.690 Yeah, that was all,

like, Florida stories. I mean, pretty much. 856 00:46:21.710 --> 00:46:25.489 The story that Danny's talking about, this guy was slick. 857 00:46:26.170 --> 00:46:29.659 He went down. He was he was he was actually 858 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.800 a policeman, not a sheriff's deputy. He was with the 859 00:46:32.739 --> 00:46:36.559 Waterhill Police Department and they got called for a welfare check. 860 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.440 And he goes with some other cops out there and 861 00:46:40.480 --> 00:46:43.389 they find the guy dead. And what he did was 862 00:46:43.780 --> 00:46:48.269 he went down to the medical examiner's office and claimed 863 00:46:48.349 --> 00:46:52.289 to be this guy's friend. And so he would take 864 00:46:52.349 --> 00:46:57.309 care of the final services and all. Then what he 865 00:46:57.369 --> 00:46:59.670 did was he went and he kept paying the property 866 00:46:59.710 --> 00:47:03.050 taxes and bills in this dead guy's name so that 867 00:47:03.110 --> 00:47:06.469 he would get the city to issue a permit for 868 00:47:06.489 --> 00:47:10.269 him to renovate the place. And he goes in under 869 00:47:10.329 --> 00:47:15.610 the permit, under the dead guy's name, and spent $ 210, 000 870 00:47:14.730 --> 00:47:19.320 of his own money upgrading the place. His arrest affidavit 871 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:20.780 is 21 pages. 872 00:47:21.539 --> 00:47:24.579 I bet, because how many acts of fraud does that take? 873 00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:29.210 I mean, like I said— 21 pages. I mean, that's 874 00:47:29.250 --> 00:47:34.989 a lot. And that is quite a long running. Like, 875 00:47:35.670 --> 00:47:38.969 I've seen people live off of somebody's dead account. You 876 00:47:38.989 --> 00:47:43.449 know what I mean? Like, like, I've seen a roommate die. Right. 877 00:47:43.750 --> 00:47:47.869 And then nobody changes the electric bill or anything. And like, 878 00:47:47.929 --> 00:47:51.050 it's in that guy's name. And they just like pay 879 00:47:51.090 --> 00:47:54.019 it for the next six years. I've seen stuff like 880 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.559 that where like the guy's credit rating is better after 881 00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:00.320 he's dead, you know, and stuff like that. But I've 882 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.889 never seen somebody like take over a piece of property 883 00:48:02.929 --> 00:48:06.170 like that is kind of innovative, though. 884 00:48:06.750 --> 00:48:09.170 He told the medical examiner that the guy had no 885 00:48:09.210 --> 00:48:13.760 living family. which was untrue. This thing didn't come to light. 886 00:48:13.949 --> 00:48:17.050 Let's see, what year did he do? July 2022. 887 00:48:17.050 --> 00:48:17.710 Okay. 888 00:48:17.769 --> 00:48:22.329 So here we are in 2025. 889 00:48:22.329 --> 00:48:24.789 So three years he's doing this. 890 00:48:24.849 --> 00:48:30.079 Three years later, the family somehow finds out that the 891 00:48:30.139 --> 00:48:34.599 relative is dead, and they signed with a real estate 892 00:48:34.659 --> 00:48:39.440 company to buy the property from the Ayers. I'm wondering 893 00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:41.519 how it took them three years to find out the 894 00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:42.300 guy was dead. 895 00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:44.260 Well, see, now that's the thing. You tell them he's 896 00:48:44.300 --> 00:48:46.849 got family, but they couldn't have been close because nobody 897 00:48:46.889 --> 00:48:48.769 bothered to go to his house and go, let's clean 898 00:48:48.849 --> 00:48:49.409 out the house. 899 00:48:49.429 --> 00:48:52.570 I mean, you know, how was it that they found 900 00:48:52.670 --> 00:48:54.929 out the guy was dead because the taxes were still 901 00:48:54.969 --> 00:48:58.340 being paid in his name, utility bills and that. In fact, 902 00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:02.440 you know, a permit was pulled from the city and 903 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.099 the state to refurbish the place. Under the guy's name. 904 00:49:06.139 --> 00:49:08.559 So I'm wondering what tipped off the family that they 905 00:49:08.579 --> 00:49:10.780 don't say in the story how his family found out 906 00:49:10.820 --> 00:49:11.820 he was actually dead. 907 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:16.210 Right. And Danny dropped off. But but yeah, no, that 908 00:49:16.309 --> 00:49:19.050 is weird. It doesn't say how they figured it out. 909 00:49:19.070 --> 00:49:19.969 Oh. 910 00:49:20.420 --> 00:49:22.019 I mean, and you would have thought somebody would have 911 00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.500 stopped by the guy's house, right? Yeah. 912 00:49:24.539 --> 00:49:27.219 Cause the neighbor said that, you know, this guy told 913 00:49:27.260 --> 00:49:30.599 her that he was a friend and had been given 914 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.039 the property before the guy died. And so all of 915 00:49:35.139 --> 00:49:37.550 a sudden this real estate company shows up and says, Hey, 916 00:49:37.570 --> 00:49:39.630 we bought this property. We're here to take over the house. 917 00:49:40.610 --> 00:49:42.869 And he surrendered the keys, but he filed a civil 918 00:49:42.889 --> 00:49:46.849 litigation against a real estate company demanding compensation for the 919 00:49:46.929 --> 00:49:49.010 money he had invested in renovations. 920 00:49:49.429 --> 00:49:54.309 Well, but legally, that is if you take over an 921 00:49:54.349 --> 00:49:57.800 abandoned property that's abandoned for any reason. Right. And you 922 00:49:57.820 --> 00:50:00.539 put your money into it like there's there's specific rules 923 00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:03.860 for that to where that guy's not wrong for trying 924 00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:05.659 to collect his money. If somebody is going to take 925 00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:10.150 the house. Um, and, and people do squat like that 926 00:50:10.389 --> 00:50:14.250 on properties, right? And they upgrade the property and over 927 00:50:14.309 --> 00:50:16.349 time they put their money in. And the fact is 928 00:50:16.570 -->

00:50:18.769 that if they did that, a lot of times they 929 00:50:18.809 --> 00:50:22.420 do have a legal position to, uh, to try and 930 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.679 reclaim their costs. So that's weird, but you know what? 931 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:31.059 I bet you anything though, that the fact that this 932 00:50:31.139 --> 00:50:34.429 guy was a cop, let him skate on a bunch 933 00:50:34.469 --> 00:50:36.150 of stuff that you and I couldn't pull off. 934 00:50:37.099 --> 00:50:40.500 Well, not only that, it allowed him to go in 935 00:50:40.659 --> 00:50:44.739 and access through police records the guy's driver's license, date 936 00:50:44.780 --> 00:50:45.280 of birth. 937 00:50:45.389 --> 00:50:46.190 Yeah, everything. 938 00:50:46.710 --> 00:50:49.690 So he had all that he needed to go and 939 00:50:49.809 --> 00:50:51.550 continue getting the permit. 940 00:50:51.570 --> 00:50:54.110 Like to get the permits to fill out forms, to 941 00:50:54.230 --> 00:50:57.329 actually know how to pay the taxes, because you've got 942 00:50:57.349 --> 00:50:59.429 to fill out all that when you go pay your taxes, right? 943 00:50:59.989 --> 00:51:01.769 Yeah, so the home was worth $ 400, 000, but I'm now 944 00:51:01.789 --> 00:51:07.309 at the AP to see... If they say how the 945 00:51:07.349 --> 00:51:08.710 family found out he's dead. 946 00:51:08.929 --> 00:51:12.590 See, that would be hilarious because here's the bad thing, too, 947 00:51:12.809 --> 00:51:16.340 is I wonder if that guy ran away because you 948 00:51:16.380 --> 00:51:19.599 think this is his first rodeo with this. I mean, 949 00:51:20.340 --> 00:51:22.820 usually when you see somebody go this far and with 950 00:51:22.860 --> 00:51:27.659 this sophisticated a scam, you know, picking up a free 951 00:51:27.699 --> 00:51:31.519 piece of property like that. It's not his first dance. 952 00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:34.269 You know what I mean? So I don't know. But anyway, 953 00:51:34.289 --> 00:51:37.420 Danny's back. So I know he's heard us talk about 954 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.860 this a little bit. Maybe he dropped his cell. But Danny, yeah, 955 00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:42.440 what else do you want to say about this? Because 956 00:51:42.460 --> 00:51:46.900 BP's looking into it. I did notice the headline, but 957 00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.789 I wasn't aware that it was this deep. So thanks 958 00:51:49.829 --> 00:51:54.590 for this. Yeah. I mean, yeah. 959 00:51:54.889 --> 00:51:56.670 I got a big kick at how fast he was 960 00:51:56.730 --> 00:51:59.250 running from the media. I mean, he was like in 961 00:51:59.289 --> 00:52:06.630 a full sprint. I was just running. I don't have 962 00:52:06.670 --> 00:52:08.789 the nerve, but I remember the little town I grew 963 00:52:08.809 --> 00:52:14.409 up in where my daughter lives. People had gone away, 964 00:52:14.469 --> 00:52:18.239 and they had a little camper trailer, and they were... 965 00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.670 put their house

up for sale and they were moving 966 00:52:21.730 --> 00:52:24.329 into the bigger town cause they were getting older. 967 00:52:24.610 --> 00:52:24.889 Right. 968 00:52:25.050 --> 00:52:27.289 And some people just kind of squatted, they had a 969 00:52:27.289 --> 00:52:30.969 little trailer and some people like, uh, RV trailer and 970 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:34.059 they were squatting in it for a while until someone discovered, 971 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:36.440 I think it was the gardener discovered they were living 972 00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:36.880 in there. 973 00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:40.599 Right. So, but that's the thing. 974 00:52:40.619 --> 00:52:42.570 That was big news in the little town. Yeah. 975 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:46.210 If those people had like upgraded the property and everything, 976 00:52:47.409 --> 00:52:49.670 After a certain amount of time, they can take possession 977 00:52:49.769 --> 00:52:52.500 of it. But within a certain amount of time and 978 00:52:52.539 --> 00:52:55.360 this is there, there's different like, you know, legal precedents 979 00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:59.300 for this. But if somebody does claim it in the 980 00:52:59.340 --> 00:53:02.820 right amount of time, you know, legally through inheritance or whatever, 981 00:53:04.179 --> 00:53:06.340 then you've got to pay back the people that were 982 00:53:06.389 --> 00:53:12.150 squatting on the land that improved it. So, you know, like, yeah, 983 00:53:12.250 --> 00:53:15.099 like if they fix up the house, I'm not kidding. 984 00:53:15.539 --> 00:53:19.039 Yeah, there's adverse possession rules in most states where if 985 00:53:19.099 --> 00:53:23.340 you if you take or use property for like 20 986 00:53:23.340 --> 00:53:26.519 years and you have to do it notoriously, which legally 987 00:53:26.579 --> 00:53:29.579 means you do it in the open. The owner knows 988 00:53:29.659 --> 00:53:32.719 that you're using that property, but doesn't do anything about it. 989 00:53:32.929 --> 00:53:33.719 Right. 990 00:53:33.889 --> 00:53:37.309 That's how people that's how people get 10 foot here. 991 00:53:37.309 --> 00:53:41.150 20 feet there. Well, I had my garden there for 992 00:53:41.190 --> 00:53:43.550 years and years and years before your dad passed away, 993 00:53:43.590 --> 00:53:46.150 and he let me use it. And then they do 994 00:53:46.230 --> 00:53:48.750 it for 20 years. They go and file adverse possession. 995 00:53:48.989 --> 00:53:49.289 Right. 996 00:53:49.949 --> 00:53:52.579 And they take the property. So, yeah, there are ways 997 00:53:52.659 --> 00:53:56.340 to do it. Now, that's how it works there. Danny, 998 00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:02.139 have you heard how the family of the dead guy 999 00:54:04.300 --> 00:54:07.849 knew that he was dead? Because it was three years 1000 00:54:07.889 --> 00:54:10.130 between the time the guy died and when they finally 1001 00:54:10.190 --> 00:54:14.889 busted this guy. I never heard. 1002 00:54:14.909 --> 00:54:19.829

I guess they just probably weren't real close. 1003 00:54:20.309 --> 00:54:24.260 I never heard how the family found out and busted him. Yeah, 1004 00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:26.719 that's what Chuck says. They apparently weren't very close. And 1005 00:54:26.820 --> 00:54:28.900 I can't find it in any of these stories. 1006 00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:32.519 Yeah, because you would think somebody at some point would 1007 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:34.940 go over there to just clean the guy's stuff out. 1008 00:54:35.139 --> 00:54:38.070 You know what I mean? Uh, if somebody was close 1009 00:54:38.110 --> 00:54:41.110 to him, but nobody apparently was, or the cop had 1010 00:54:41.130 --> 00:54:44.650 a good story, you know, like for more than just 1011 00:54:44.849 --> 00:54:47.230 the medical examiner probably just took his word for it. 1012 00:54:47.250 --> 00:54:50.789 Cause he's a cop. But if somebody like, if I 1013 00:54:50.809 --> 00:54:52.659 went to go knock on my friend's door and there 1014 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.900 was some dude there, I didn't know, uh, you know, 1015 00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:59.500 and I'd be like, eh, something's odd here. You know 1016 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:01.300 what I mean? And if it was a family member, 1017 00:55:01.340 --> 00:55:03.260 I'd go, wait a minute. I know this is wrong. 1018 00:55:04.309 --> 00:55:07.289 You know what I mean? But yeah, but this is 1019 00:55:07.329 --> 00:55:09.150 an odd thing that it went on for three years. 1020 00:55:09.610 --> 00:55:11.429 The other thing that occurred to me, though, is that 1021 00:55:11.469 --> 00:55:15.820 this can't be his first time. I wonder if he's 1022 00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:18.840 running away, not because of this case, which is bad enough, 1023 00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.340 but if there's like not a whole pile of stuff 1024 00:55:22.380 --> 00:55:26.050 like this for this cop. Because as BP was also 1025 00:55:26.130 --> 00:55:27.929 pointing out, you know, the guy had to go get 1026 00:55:27.949 --> 00:55:30.889 information on the guy in order to, like, go pay 1027 00:55:30.929 --> 00:55:34.889 the taxes and maintain the property, which, by the way, 1028 00:55:34.949 --> 00:55:37.429 he can at the very least in most places. Now, 1029 00:55:37.809 --> 00:55:40.230 you got that adverse thing that BP was talking about. 1030 00:55:42.539 --> 00:55:44.900 But in New York. OK, you got the you got 1031 00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.860 the answer. But just really fast in New York, they 1032 00:55:47.900 --> 00:55:51.760 have squatters rights, right? Where if you squat in a 1033 00:55:51.780 --> 00:55:53.619 building for a certain amount of time and it ain't 1034 00:55:53.659 --> 00:55:56.949 no 20 years and you took care of the place, 1035 00:55:57.230 --> 00:56:01.730 even in the most like rudimentary way, you could end 1036 00:56:01.789 --> 00:56:04.480 up claiming ownership of that thing after a while if 1037 00:56:04.699 --> 00:56:08.590 the owner does nothing about it. And it takes a 1038 00:56:08.630 --> 00:56:11.170 couple of public notices and stuff like that. That's why 1039 00:56:11.210 --> 00:56:12.849 local newspapers are still useful. 1040 00:56:12.889 --> 00:56:13.269 By the way. 1041 00:56:13.909 --> 00:56:16.409 But if you put out a public notice in a 1042 00:56:16.469 --> 00:56:19.409 newspaper basically saying that you're taking possession of this thing 1043 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:22.800 and you say, you know, within I forget what it is, 1044 00:56:22.860 --> 00:56:26.159 but like they got like six months or something like 1045 00:56:26.179 --> 00:56:29.000 that after you put that out there. And you've been 1046 00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:32.360 there for, like, another, I think, a year. Like, after 1047 00:56:32.380 --> 00:56:34.139 a year and a half, you could take possession of 1048 00:56:34.699 --> 00:56:39.340 a multimillion-dollar building if nobody does anything about it. And 1049 00:56:39.579 --> 00:56:42.179 sometimes there are squatters that move into buildings like this 1050 00:56:42.340 --> 00:56:44.360 and take them over, and they've turned them into co-ops 1051 00:56:44.409 --> 00:56:48.369 and all kinds of things. Go ahead. Okay. 1052 00:56:48.389 --> 00:56:51.550 I've never heard of that. 1053 00:56:51.590 --> 00:56:53.409 I'm just saying I've seen it happen with my own 1054 00:56:53.550 --> 00:56:55.590 eyes in New York. It's just I don't know all 1055 00:56:55.710 --> 00:57:00.369 the particulars, but I've seen it happen. Where somebody has taken. 1056 00:57:00.090 --> 00:57:02.590 Over the stories here in the past few years of 1057 00:57:02.650 --> 00:57:05.650 squatters and the trouble that people are having getting them 1058 00:57:05.710 --> 00:57:07.530 out of their homes. Like, you know, people that have 1059 00:57:07.570 --> 00:57:10.969 a second home and they're renting it out and somebody 1060 00:57:11.070 --> 00:57:14.199 leaves and then squatters end up in it. Or people, 1061 00:57:14.550 --> 00:57:16.440 one lady I read a story, she went on an 1062 00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:19.699 extended vacation over to Europe for like three weeks and 1063 00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:23.119 came back and had squatters in her house and had 1064 00:57:23.139 --> 00:57:26.300 to go through a living hell to get them evicted. 1065 00:57:27.750 --> 00:57:29.550 They came up with a fake lease and said, hey, 1066 00:57:29.610 --> 00:57:31.849 we paid this guy $ 500 a month, and we're here 1067 00:57:31.869 --> 00:57:34.909 for six months. Here's our lease. It was all fake. 1068 00:57:35.329 --> 00:57:38.650 Well, that's another weird thing. But see, that's another weird 1069 00:57:38.670 --> 00:57:41.389 thing that started to happen in the early 2000s is 1070 00:57:41.409 --> 00:57:46.010 that people started to list places. They'd find an abandoned house, 1071 00:57:46.050 --> 00:57:47.860 sort of fix it up a bit, and then rent it. 1072 00:57:48.909 --> 00:57:51.070 And it's not even their

house. They just happen to 1073 00:57:51.110 --> 00:57:53.010 know that, you know, somebody died and it's going to 1074 00:57:53.050 --> 00:57:54.699 be like, you know, tied up in court for a 1075 00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.159 little while. So they collect a security deposit. They fill out, 1076 00:57:58.179 --> 00:57:59.940 you know, anybody can get a lease over at the 1077 00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:03.380 office depot or whatever. You can get a blank lease 1078 00:58:03.460 --> 00:58:05.239 off of the Internet printed out yourself now. 1079 00:58:05.429 --> 00:58:05.610 Right. 1080 00:58:06.110 --> 00:58:08.389 You show up. You're like, hey, yeah, I'm the landlord. And, 1081 00:58:08.670 --> 00:58:10.909 you know, pay me this amount of money and blah, blah, blah. 1082 00:58:10.929 --> 00:58:12.570 They give you a check or they give you cash. 1083 00:58:13.409 --> 00:58:17.630 And they would just do that. And then the landlord, 1084 00:58:17.670 --> 00:58:21.800 the quote landlord, would disappear. The real owner would show up, 1085 00:58:22.500 --> 00:58:24.300 you know, because they were away a while or they 1086 00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.579 were in the hospital or whatever. And yeah, and there 1087 00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.949 would be problems like this where people were conned into 1088 00:58:30.989 --> 00:58:34.010 taking over a place thinking they were renting it. So, 1089 00:58:34.110 --> 00:58:36.130 I mean, and that happened all the way up until 1090 00:58:36.170 --> 00:58:38.630 like I was skeptical when I first moved to North Carolina. 1091 00:58:38.670 --> 00:58:40.550 I thought for a second the place I moved into 1092 00:58:40.590 --> 00:58:43.260 might have been that. Like, this is how the guy 1093 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:44.699 ended up with it. It turned out he was one 1094 00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:46.820 of these other guys who picks them up on tax sales, 1095 00:58:47.489 --> 00:58:50.429 you know, picks up cheap houses, which there's lots of 1096 00:58:50.469 --> 00:58:54.710 opportunity for that in Macon, Georgia. There's a house right 1097 00:58:54.750 --> 00:58:57.989 next to me that has been, like, sort of abandoned 1098 00:58:58.070 --> 00:59:01.050 by the dead owners now for, like, three years or 1099 00:59:01.070 --> 00:59:01.389 four years. 1100 00:59:01.429 --> 00:59:05.050 Well, that's what happened in this case. A realty holdings 1101 00:59:05.150 --> 00:59:10.909 company somehow, it said, according to the affidavit, the case 1102 00:59:10.949 --> 00:59:14.050 came to light after Equinox Realty Holdings became involved with 1103 00:59:14.070 --> 00:59:17.960 the property. The affidavit states that the company located West's 1104 00:59:18.179 --> 00:59:21.940 surviving heirs and acquired their ownership interest in the home. 1105 00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:22.559 There you go. 1106 00:59:22.579 --> 00:59:26.079 A Broward County court subsequently recognized the heirs' interest and 1107 00:59:26.099 --> 00:59:31.429 the conveyance to Equinox. Investigators said Guros, the guy that 1108 00:59:31.449 --> 00:59:34.789 they busted, eventually surrendered the keys, but then he filed 1109 00:59:34.829 --> 00:59:38.480 a civil suit secret and equitable lien against the property 1110 00:59:38.539 --> 00:59:41.579 signing the money he spent on renovations yeah see but 1111 00:59:41.699 --> 00:59:47.739 apparently apparently this um real estate company knew the guy 1112 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:52.860 was dead there i mean one of the one of 1113 00:59:52.909 --> 00:59:55.590 the searches this guy did as a cop yeah the 1114 00:59:55.610 --> 00:59:59.329 results came back showing that he was deceased So apparently 1115 00:59:59.369 --> 01:00:03.789 this real estate company cruises the obituaries, checking to see 1116 01:00:03.829 --> 01:00:07.829 who dies and checking property listings. And then at a house, 1117 01:00:07.849 --> 01:00:10.590 you know, somebody dies, they contact the heirs. Hey, all 1118 01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:13.920 you guys live out of state. We'd like to go 1119 01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:15.800 ahead and buy the property and take it off your hands. 1120 01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:16.380 Yeah, right. 1121 01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:18.940 And the deal's done. So that's how this guy got busted. 1122 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:23.590 There's people in real estate companies all across the country. 1123 01:00:23.670 --> 01:00:30.260 That's their job. is to find you know basically properties 1124 01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:32.960 that are not being utilized by people because somebody died 1125 01:00:33.059 --> 01:00:35.579 and they were the occupant of the house and nobody 1126 01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:38.900 took it right over so they go through and just 1127 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.630 find whoever the legal heir is and say hey surprise 1128 01:00:41.650 --> 01:00:44.510 surprise you know you're the only heir to you know 1129 01:00:44.610 --> 01:00:48.130 your uncle your grandfather whatever you didn't know it but 1130 01:00:48.230 --> 01:00:50.489 how about we give you 20 grand and we buy 1131 01:00:50.530 --> 01:00:53.010 your interest in the house and they they walk away 1132 01:00:53.030 --> 01:00:56.110 with it for a song Um, but there, there are 1133 01:00:56.139 --> 01:00:58.840 guys that are literally dedicated to doing that job because 1134 01:00:58.860 --> 01:01:01.840 it's a huge gain for a real estate company to 1135 01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.980 take it and then, you know, put it on the market, 1136 01:01:05.099 --> 01:01:07.699 even at a, you know, even at under market value, 1137 01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:10.519 they make a ton of cash on it and paying 1138 01:01:10.539 --> 01:01:12.719 that guy pays off if he finds, you know, so 1139 01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.739 many houses over the course of a year or whatever. 1140 01:01:15.659 --> 01:01:18.059 So yeah, this is standard operation. 1141 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.690 Oh, quick shout out to Aaron. He's in the chat

room. Oh, hey. 1142 01:01:22.929 --> 01:01:26.429 Good to hear from you, Franz. I see you're still 1143 01:01:26.469 --> 01:01:29.409 working on your looking for truth in all the wrong 1144 01:01:29.449 --> 01:01:34.110 places stuff on Patreon, which is available, guys. Aaron Franz 1145 01:01:34.179 --> 01:01:35.909 is still on Patreon, even though he's not on the 1146 01:01:35.949 --> 01:01:42.280 network anymore. And do appreciate you, man. And really kind 1147 01:01:42.300 --> 01:01:44.980 of miss you on Fridays here. Look, we are at 1148 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.559 the one hour mark. Danny, is there anything you want 1149 01:01:47.579 --> 01:01:49.219 to add before we go to break real quick? 1150 01:01:51.070 --> 01:01:52.679 Just go to break. I'm going to have to check 1151 01:01:52.780 --> 01:01:55.920 out of here. I'll try to get back on. So, yeah, 1152 01:01:55.960 --> 01:01:58.860 I just wanted to share. I heard all you're talking 1153 01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:02.440 about the craziness of Florida and being a police officer, too. 1154 01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:06.019 I think you kind of segued what Jimmy James was 1155 01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:06.800 talking about. 1156 01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.739 You know, there used to be websites. Just before I go, 1157 01:02:09.780 --> 01:02:11.539 there used to be websites. Before I let you go, 1158 01:02:11.579 --> 01:02:14.260 I mean, there used to be websites that were dedicated 1159 01:02:14.420 --> 01:02:19.730 exclusively to, like, crazy Florida news. Oh, really? Yeah, I 1160 01:02:19.750 --> 01:02:21.630 was going to put a news feed on my site 1161 01:02:21.710 --> 01:02:23.449 from one of them, and they went out of business 1162 01:02:23.590 --> 01:02:26.980 on me. I was hoping to run it, and they 1163 01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:28.820 were going to actually pay me to put just a 1164 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:30.739 constant news feed on my sidebar. 1165 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:36.199 I think the majority of the naked news stories we 1166 01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:37.340 had came out of Florida. 1167 01:02:37.420 --> 01:02:39.880 Yeah, a whole lot of those naked news stories with 1168 01:02:39.900 --> 01:02:43.849 the meth and everything, a lot of them were Florida, yeah. Um, 1169 01:02:44.530 --> 01:02:48.849 and I think it's HBO might have an actual documentary series, 1170 01:02:48.889 --> 01:02:51.130 like a short run series, like one of those limited 1171 01:02:51.170 --> 01:02:53.090 series called Florida man. 1172 01:02:53.179 --> 01:02:53.929 I've seen it. 1173 01:02:54.739 --> 01:02:56.820 I've never watched it, but I've seen it advertised. 1174 01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.500 You might want to watch it because it gives you 1175 01:02:59.539 --> 01:03:02.019 an idea of some of the like head scratchers that 1176 01:03:02.059 --> 01:03:06.190 happened there because it's like, okay, yeah, there's normal craziness 1177 01:03:06.349 --> 01:03:11.289 everywhere else in America, but, but Florida's always

special. 1178 01:03:11.309 --> 01:03:11.489 Yeah. 1179 01:03:13.340 --> 01:03:18.760 It's like the Special Olympics versus the Olympics, okay? They 1180 01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:19.460 are special. 1181 01:03:22.920 --> 01:03:25.960 Quick update. Brewers are up 2-0, bottom of the third. 1182 01:03:26.139 --> 01:03:27.889 There you go. Who is pitching, by the way? Is 1183 01:03:27.929 --> 01:03:28.869 Mizorowski pitching? 1184 01:03:31.349 --> 01:03:34.670 I'm not sure. Tampa Bay is pitching right now. I 1185 01:03:34.670 --> 01:03:36.809 do not like their uniforms. 1186 01:03:37.860 --> 01:03:39.559 Well, you know, what are you going to do? They 1187 01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:42.519 are weird looking, but it's the Tampa Bay Rays and 1188 01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:45.860 they were an expansion team. And yeah, I think they 1189 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.000 would be a hell of an interesting one. But you're right. 1190 01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:49.849 It is the first time either one would win it. 1191 01:03:50.900 --> 01:03:53.139 I wonder what the Seattle Pilots were before they were 1192 01:03:53.179 --> 01:03:56.260 the Seattle Pilots or were they an expansion team? I 1193 01:03:56.280 --> 01:03:57.969 don't know. You know, I used to know this stuff. 1194 01:03:58.260 --> 01:03:58.449 Yeah. 1195 01:04:00.090 --> 01:04:02.550 Anyways, I'm going to go take a leak. I'm putting 1196 01:04:02.590 --> 01:04:05.239 Danny on hold. He might call back in. Jimmy James 1197 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:07.800 still on hold, but you could join us here live. 1198 01:04:07.820 --> 01:04:07.880 319-527-5016. 1199 01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:10.320 Join into the open mic on the Ocelli Effect here 1200 01:04:10.340 --> 01:04:19.769 Friday night at 23rd day of october 2026 allegedly according 1201 01:04:19.789 --> 01:04:22.559 to that thing we call a calendar and uh you 1202 01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:25.320 know that's the way it is otherwise you're hearing it 1203 01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:28.380 in replay form aaron franz in the chat room say 1204 01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:31.219 hello to him if you want to go over to ocelli.com 1205 01:04:31.260 --> 01:04:34.130 and say hi to him in the ocelli chat uh 1206 01:04:34.409 --> 01:04:37.289 and remember at all times we are listeners supported even 1207 01:04:37.309 --> 01:04:37.769 though there's only. 1208 01:04:37.710 --> 01:05:04.099 Three We'll be right back. 1209 01:05:28.929 --> 01:05:31.880 The of shelly.com radio network so. 1210 01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:41.739 Do you like history? 1211 01:05:42.019 --> 01:05:44.860 Real history that you were never taught in schools? 1212 01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:45.639 Why? 1213 01:05:45.900 --> 01:05:50.659 The Vietnam War. 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The second segment of the Friday Night Live 1299 01:12:06.630 --> 01:12:10.569 Open Mic is happening now. And we'll take this to 1300 01:12:10.609 --> 01:12:14.630 just past 10 o'clock tonight and see where we go. 1301 01:12:14.770 --> 01:12:16.600 So once again, I'm just going to say, you know what? 1302 01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.500 Listeners supported. That's what we are. And if you chip 1303 01:12:20.619 --> 01:12:23.800 in today, you'd be chipping into just the host's well-being. 1304 01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:27.979 I'll tell you that much. But we'll leave it at that. Um, 1305 01:12:28.220 --> 01:12:31.159 I do know that, uh, Jimmy did just before the 1306 01:12:31.220 --> 01:12:34.399 show drop a little something in and I appreciate it. 1307 01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:37.159 And believe me, every single bit helps. If you think 1308 01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:40.510 it's just a little too little or whatever, it ain't, uh, 1309 01:12:40.729 --> 01:12:43.390 it all counts. And, uh, it would make me feel 1310 01:12:43.409 --> 01:12:45.010 a lot better if it wasn't just the same three 1311 01:12:45.029 --> 01:12:47.689 guys doing it. That's all I'm saying. And Jimmy is 1312 01:12:47.750 --> 01:12:51.199 one of those three guys. Uh, also, you know, I, 1313 01:12:51.529 --> 01:12:53.279 I could tell you that, uh, you've already heard the 1314 01:12:53.340 --> 01:12:55.899 voices of all three of them on the, uh, show tonight. 1315 01:12:56.890 --> 01:13:00.640 that are the steady supporters. Hit, hit if you're hearing 1316 01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:03.640 my voice and you're not one of them. Anyway, you 1317 01:13:03.659 --> 01:13:09.239 could also call in 319-527-5016. That's the number to become 1318 01:13:09.300 --> 01:13:14.409 part of one of this or part of this. Excuse me. Oh, 1319 01:13:14.489 --> 01:13:18.930 let's see. Oh, well, the biggest thing on the Democrats. Wow. 1320 01:13:18.989 --> 01:13:21.710 What is this? The Democrats agenda was which toilet the 1321 01:13:21.750 --> 01:13:26.409 trannies can use. Wow. Oh, hey, Franz is still in 1322 01:13:26.430 --> 01:13:28.649 the chat room at Ocelli.com. If you guys want to 1323 01:13:28.689 --> 01:13:31.189 stop over there and somebody's trying to private message me, 1324 01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.319 you know, really quick before we get back to Jimmy, 1325 01:13:34.500 --> 01:13:37.739 I am getting approached by more and more of these 1326 01:13:38.380 --> 01:13:45.140 odd Internet whores on

Chatango. Have you had an uptick 1327 01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:46.960 in that lately? Like where it's like, hi, I'm a 1328 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.989 desperate woman and I'm looking for a real relationship. They 1329 01:13:50.010 --> 01:13:51.609 send you in a private message. You get those? 1330 01:13:52.659 --> 01:13:56.239 No, I don't. I've not gotten anything off chat tango. 1331 01:13:56.699 --> 01:13:58.659 And I mean, the only time I use it, too, 1332 01:13:58.699 --> 01:14:01.119 is when I, you know, Friday nights when we're in 1333 01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:04.039 the on chat. Right. But other than that, I've not 1334 01:14:04.060 --> 01:14:06.220 been getting it. But however, I have been getting a 1335 01:14:06.939 --> 01:14:09.289 lot of the oh, do you have time to talk 1336 01:14:09.550 --> 01:14:12.949 crap on Twitter? And I think I've got I'm up 1337 01:14:13.050 --> 01:14:19.710 to 11 Elon Musk's three Elon Musk's mom. some other Musk, 1338 01:14:20.369 --> 01:14:22.710 and four or five people that apparently work for Musk 1339 01:14:23.850 --> 01:14:26.100 that follow me. So I'm going to see if I 1340 01:14:26.109 --> 01:14:28.149 can set the record for fake Elon Musk. 1341 01:14:28.600 --> 01:14:30.600 They're going to try and get you to buy some 1342 01:14:30.779 --> 01:14:33.020 cryptocurrency if you talk to them a little. 1343 01:14:33.810 --> 01:14:37.689 Yeah, I get those too. It's fucking ridiculous. 1344 01:14:38.310 --> 01:14:41.159 Just, you know, but the internet whores crack me up 1345 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:43.560 the most. It's like, you know what? I'm a fun 1346 01:14:43.619 --> 01:14:47.439 girl and I'd love to, I'm 20. They're always like 24, 25, uh, 1347 01:14:48.020 --> 01:14:51.630 you know, just got out of university, uh, wherever they're from, 1348 01:14:51.710 --> 01:14:53.949 which means, you know, there's some foreign thing. Cause nobody 1349 01:14:53.970 --> 01:14:55.989 in America calls it university. 1350 01:14:56.010 --> 01:15:02.119 Uh, You know, I like these guys, these, you know, 16, 17, 1351 01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:07.119 18 year olds that set up an OnlyFans site and 1352 01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:11.800 use AI and filters to sit there and be chatting 1353 01:15:11.819 --> 01:15:14.880 to all these guys. You know, the image they see 1354 01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:18.590 is some hot chick. that's talking them up for their money, 1355 01:15:19.109 --> 01:15:22.850 and it's some 16-year-old pimply-faced guy that's behind the whole 1356 01:15:22.890 --> 01:15:23.409 damn thing. 1357 01:15:23.569 --> 01:15:26.729 Oh, do me a favor. Yeah, listen, you just reminded 1358 01:15:26.789 --> 01:15:28.890 me of a story I wanted to cover tonight, and 1359 01:15:29.029 --> 01:15:31.750 I didn't pull it up. Can you go look for 1360 01:15:32.430 --> 01:15:35.229 the woman who got scammed thinking that she was dating 1361 01:15:35.289 --> 01:15:40.050 Jon Bon Jovi, please? I want to talk about that 1362 01:15:40.109 --> 01:15:44.130 real quick before we get Jimmy back. Since this came up, yes. 1363 01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:48.239 This a foolish woman who was clearly a teenage girl 1364 01:15:48.310 --> 01:15:50.869 in the 80s when Jon Bon Jovi was, you know, 1365 01:15:50.890 --> 01:15:53.609 making a living off of excited teenage girls that thought 1366 01:15:53.630 --> 01:15:57.569 he was pretty, you know, and I hate him, you know, 1367 01:15:57.659 --> 01:16:02.680 even though he is technically allegedly Italian and he's from Jersey. Really, 1368 01:16:02.859 --> 01:16:05.619 if he died of stomach cancer tomorrow, I would not 1369 01:16:05.680 --> 01:16:07.979 be unhappy. I can't stand it. 1370 01:16:08.060 --> 01:16:10.439 This is a hell of a story if the business 1371 01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:12.180 insider is carrying it. 1372 01:16:12.220 --> 01:16:15.060 Well, I'm just– you see what I'm talking about here? 1373 01:16:15.100 --> 01:16:16.020 This is crazy. 1374 01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:19.340 This woman– I thought I was dating Jon Bon Jovi. 1375 01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:29.159 Ten months later, I realized I'd been scammed out of $ 10, 000. 1376 01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:31.239 Now, the level of stupid here is amazing. Like, Jon 1377 01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:34.850 Bon Jovi needs your $ 10, 000. I mean, you know, and 1378 01:16:34.899 --> 01:16:37.500 she goes into this whole thing about he said he 1379 01:16:37.520 --> 01:16:40.579 was getting a divorce and we haven't made it public yet. 1380 01:16:41.500 --> 01:16:44.640 And then he wanted me to pay for meet and greets. And, 1381 01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:47.119 you know, so we could spend time together and he 1382 01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:49.289 could do it, you know, on the down low. This 1383 01:16:50.069 --> 01:16:52.470 is bad. It is so bad. Apparently this chick. 1384 01:16:52.350 --> 01:16:56.789 Was on National Geographic did a special called Super Scam 1385 01:16:56.810 --> 01:16:58.159 Me and they featured her on it. 1386 01:16:58.310 --> 01:17:00.539 Yeah, well, there's going to be a series now of 1387 01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:06.250 Super Scam Me of like... Stuff like this. I mean, 1388 01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:08.680 and that's what cracks me up about. I mean, there 1389 01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:11.359 is there's a million stories in the naked city, so 1390 01:17:11.380 --> 01:17:11.739 to speak. 1391 01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:12.020 Right. 1392 01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:15.720 This is and there's people. But there's people getting scammed. 1393 01:17:15.859 --> 01:17:18.699 I'm sorry. Hold on. There's people getting scammed all the time. 1394 01:17:19.380 --> 01:17:22.500 Mostly dudes. OK. And by the way, they scam gay 1395 01:17:22.539 --> 01:17:25.939 dudes the same way the whole bit. And it's mostly dudes. 1396 01:17:26.149 --> 01:17:28.489 But it really cracks me up when it's a woman. 1397 01:17:29.670 --> 01:17:33.210 Because any woman that's desperate enough to hand over money 1398 01:17:33.310 --> 01:17:36.949 to

a dude, that is the strange. And she's not 1399 01:17:36.989 --> 01:17:40.119 like a horrible looking, you know, I mean, she's clearly mature. 1400 01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:41.640 If you take you see the picture of her. 1401 01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:45.539 She's 65. 1402 01:17:45.539 --> 01:17:48.579 Whatever. She's 65. But I mean, you know, for 65, 1403 01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:50.340 she's not that bad looking. You know what I'm saying? 1404 01:17:50.380 --> 01:17:57.399 It's not. Huh? What'd you say? Oh, BP, do you there? 1405 01:17:58.270 --> 01:18:00.609 Yeah, I'm here. I had to cough. 1406 01:18:00.869 --> 01:18:04.800 Yeah, she's 55. 55, 60, whatever. She's not that terrible looking. 1407 01:18:05.819 --> 01:18:08.260 You know what I mean? I've seen women in way 1408 01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.699 worse shape than her netting many a man without a problem. 1409 01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:12.500 I don't know. 1410 01:18:12.619 --> 01:18:13.689 And they don't need to pay for it. 1411 01:18:13.699 --> 01:18:14.800 It's on a glass of beer. 1412 01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:18.060 Okay, look, I'm not saying she's pretty. I'm just saying 1413 01:18:18.140 --> 01:18:21.470 she's not, you know, oh my God. You know, she 1414 01:18:21.510 --> 01:18:25.609 doesn't look like... She's not an idiot. But clearly stupid 1415 01:18:25.689 --> 01:18:26.090 as hell. 1416 01:18:26.390 --> 01:18:26.649 I mean. 1417 01:18:26.649 --> 01:18:30.010 10 grand she gave to john bon jovi. 1418 01:18:29.770 --> 01:18:32.329 Yeah and the funny thing is though the first message 1419 01:18:32.350 --> 01:18:35.909 she got was a direct message not from his official 1420 01:18:35.970 --> 01:18:40.949 account but from another account that had his picture on 1421 01:18:40.989 --> 01:18:43.609 it right just because of the picture she thought oh 1422 01:18:43.630 --> 01:18:44.590 this is john bon. 1423 01:18:44.430 --> 01:18:47.850 Jovi it's because you know this is what happened when 1424 01:18:47.890 --> 01:18:50.500 somebody gets scammed like this i don't feel that bad 1425 01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:53.699 because it's like you should have seen this but over 1426 01:18:53.739 --> 01:18:55.680 and over again there are people that get scammed by 1427 01:18:55.739 --> 01:18:58.890 just like a pretty face or oh they made a 1428 01:18:58.930 --> 01:19:01.989 connection they said the right things to me but this 1429 01:19:02.029 --> 01:19:04.170 just cracks me up that this woman who was a 1430 01:19:04.210 --> 01:19:07.090 john bon jovi fan you know 40 years ago or 1431 01:19:07.090 --> 01:19:11.460 50 years ago or whatever You know, clearly when she 1432 01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:14.140 was a teenage girl, because, again, that's his fan base 1433 01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:18.899 in the 80s for sure. And the 90s and undeserved 1434 01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:22.199 piece of crap that he is and burning people on 1435 01:19:22.229 --> 01:19:24.090 the way up and everything else. And, yes, I know 1436 01:19:24.109 --> 01:19:26.770 the stories from his cousins and everything else. Guy's a 1437 01:19:26.810 --> 01:19:29.310 piece of shit. But the point is, I can't stand him. 1438 01:19:31.210 --> 01:19:33.050 John Bon Jovi, though. Yeah, go ahead. 1439 01:19:33.250 --> 01:19:36.149 This was on Instagram. And I can now I can 1440 01:19:36.229 --> 01:19:40.680 attest on Instagram is where I've had. The majority of 1441 01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:46.590 unsolicited messages. Okay. And one really, really killed me. There 1442 01:19:46.630 --> 01:19:50.130 was a girl that worked at a store down the road. Right. 1443 01:19:50.369 --> 01:19:54.770 And for years, I bought lottery tickets from her three 1444 01:19:54.810 --> 01:19:55.449 times a week. 1445 01:19:55.689 --> 01:20:00.119 Oh, you were one of those guys that had to 1446 01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:02.220 go in and smile at the pretty girl at the store, right? 1447 01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:02.319 Yeah. 1448 01:20:03.020 --> 01:20:03.819 Oh, of course, man. 1449 01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:06.739 This girl's a bomb. But no, we also, she ran, 1450 01:20:07.180 --> 01:20:09.159 she worked at a video poker place that I would 1451 01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:13.390 go to. Oh, wow. And she was from the community 1452 01:20:13.430 --> 01:20:15.329 where my parents were. And this is when I was 1453 01:20:15.369 --> 01:20:16.829 taking care of my dad when he was sick. 1454 01:20:16.989 --> 01:20:20.449 And damn, that's BP's wheelhouse right there, folks. I mean, 1455 01:20:20.510 --> 01:20:22.909 the poker machine and a pretty girl. I mean, I 1456 01:20:22.930 --> 01:20:25.210 don't think we'll ever get him back. He goes there. Yeah, 1457 01:20:25.229 --> 01:20:25.609 go ahead. 1458 01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:29.119 Sorry. Well, now, come to find out, she ended up 1459 01:20:29.140 --> 01:20:31.039 marrying a guy in the Air Force. She's down in 1460 01:20:31.100 --> 01:20:35.420 Florida now, or Florida, Georgia, somewhere. South Georgia or Panhandle 1461 01:20:35.460 --> 01:20:39.119 of Florida. Anyway, she's a bikini model now. 1462 01:20:39.380 --> 01:20:41.399 Might be at Warner Robins over here. 1463 01:20:41.949 --> 01:20:43.449 I'm telling you now, this girl's hot. 1464 01:20:43.670 --> 01:20:43.869 Okay. 1465 01:20:43.949 --> 01:20:47.750 Anyway, I had left a message on one of her posts, 1466 01:20:47.909 --> 01:20:50.810 and she said she was, you know, heading home in 1467 01:20:50.850 --> 01:20:52.529 a few weeks for the holidays. And I said, well, 1468 01:20:52.550 --> 01:20:55.130 I'll see you down at the R Mart. which was 1469 01:20:55.189 --> 01:20:57.949 in Albertson, where she used to work. Well, then I 1470 01:20:57.989 --> 01:21:04.069 get this message. Oh, hey, this is so-and-so's personal private account, 1471 01:21:04.470 --> 01:21:07.529 and I just wanted to add you, and I'm going, really? 1472 01:21:08.380 --> 01:21:11.920 So you've got this private account, huh? Yeah, I said, okay, 1473 01:21:12.460 --> 01:21:15.560

tell me where I used to live. Well, what do 1474 01:21:15.579 --> 01:21:18.899 you mean? I said, tell me where I used to live. Well, 1475 01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:20.539 I don't know what you're talking about. I said, if 1476 01:21:20.619 --> 01:21:23.970 you know me, You know where I used to live. 1477 01:21:24.250 --> 01:21:24.609 Right. 1478 01:21:25.329 --> 01:21:29.510 And I've had probably 20 of those just from her account. 1479 01:21:29.590 --> 01:21:34.239 People trying to tag on and scam people. Well, it 1480 01:21:34.300 --> 01:21:36.439 just kills me. You know, this is the one instance 1481 01:21:36.460 --> 01:21:39.550 where I actually know the famous person. And now you're 1482 01:21:39.569 --> 01:21:41.609 going to try to tell me that you're the person 1483 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:43.260 in the private account, but you don't know a damn 1484 01:21:43.300 --> 01:21:45.229 thing about what's going on between the two of us. 1485 01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:49.760 Yeah, right. There's your problem. But the funny thing about 1486 01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:53.279 that is that in reality, though, most women have like, 1487 01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:55.810 you know, four or five freaking social media accounts under 1488 01:21:55.829 --> 01:22:00.890 different identities. And I discovered that over the past, like, say, 1489 01:22:00.890 --> 01:22:04.659 10 years. That it's like, yeah, I got my Facebook account, 1490 01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:07.810 but anytime they get blocked by somebody, they go, yeah, 1491 01:22:07.829 --> 01:22:09.489 but I go on my other account so I can 1492 01:22:09.510 --> 01:22:10.430 see what's going on still. 1493 01:22:10.449 --> 01:22:12.409 Yeah, see, and the thing was, in this message, I 1494 01:22:12.449 --> 01:22:15.350 had called her home. You know, I left the message, 1495 01:22:15.390 --> 01:22:17.829 I'll see you at Darmart, homie, and left it at that. 1496 01:22:17.890 --> 01:22:20.529 And when they texted me, it was, oh, hey, homie. 1497 01:22:20.869 --> 01:22:23.149 And I'm sitting there going, okay, homie, where the hell 1498 01:22:23.189 --> 01:22:26.770 was my home? You know, don't pull this shit on me. 1499 01:22:26.850 --> 01:22:30.149 There's too many of you out there. And every time 1500 01:22:30.210 --> 01:22:32.829 I get one of those, I copy the message and 1501 01:22:32.890 --> 01:22:34.789 send it back to the girl that I know. And 1502 01:22:34.829 --> 01:22:38.310 she says, well, tell them this or tell them that. 1503 01:22:38.649 --> 01:22:41.170 You know, give them this little tidbit just so that 1504 01:22:41.189 --> 01:22:43.729 they'll hang themselves and then report the day on the count. 1505 01:22:44.510 --> 01:22:46.310 There's got to be 25 of them like that out 1506 01:22:46.329 --> 01:22:47.090 there that I've had. 1507 01:22:47.409 --> 01:22:51.140 Yeah, and she's like some sort of mild celebrity, right? 1508 01:22:51.149 --> 01:22:53.300 Like she's got like a little bit of, right? 1509 01:22:54.220 --> 01:22:57.399 Oh, she's got a following, yeah. She gets paid for 1510 01:22:57.500 --> 01:23:00.880 photo shoots for, I want to say it's like four 1511 01:23:00.939 --> 01:23:05.949 or five bathing suit companies. and lingerie companies right so she's. 1512 01:23:05.750 --> 01:23:09.149 A public person and yeah and she's not like you 1513 01:23:09.170 --> 01:23:12.350 know she's not like mega famous but she's got but 1514 01:23:12.390 --> 01:23:14.949 that's the thing a little bit of fame and people 1515 01:23:14.970 --> 01:23:18.350 will copy you and and impersonate you and everything else 1516 01:23:18.789 --> 01:23:21.430 yeah she's got a hell of a following yeah but 1517 01:23:21.569 --> 01:23:24.390 but the bon jovi thing i mean how stupid do 1518 01:23:24.449 --> 01:23:29.270 you have to be Seriously, I mean, yeah, but that's 1519 01:23:29.310 --> 01:23:31.460 the thing is that she was like, oh, no, I 1520 01:23:31.539 --> 01:23:35.380 actually have a chance to get my rock star wet dream. And, 1521 01:23:35.819 --> 01:23:39.300 you know, it's like, how? Anyway, let's go back to 1522 01:23:39.340 --> 01:23:42.039 Jimmy James and get back to murder and mayhem because 1523 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:44.439 he might have more on the 60s murder case. And 1524 01:23:44.479 --> 01:23:45.779 I want to give him a chance to talk more. 1525 01:23:46.590 --> 01:23:47.449 I want to hear details. 1526 01:23:47.470 --> 01:23:49.390 But then again, maybe Jimmy wants to talk about Bon 1527 01:23:49.430 --> 01:23:51.989 Jovi and the lady getting scammed. I don't know. Up 1528 01:23:52.010 --> 01:23:52.670 to you, Jimmy. 1529 01:23:52.789 --> 01:23:55.729 It's all up to you. 1530 01:23:55.729 --> 01:24:00.500 $ 10, 000. $ 10, 000. $ 10, 000. I got to become a Bon Jovi scammer. 1531 01:24:01.420 --> 01:24:06.159 I'm sorry. $ 10, 000. I'll take it. Anyway, Jimmy, are you 1532 01:24:06.180 --> 01:24:07.600 going to pay me for meet and greets I don't 1533 01:24:07.619 --> 01:24:11.369 show up for? Anyway, Jimmy, go ahead, man. 1534 01:24:14.409 --> 01:24:17.739 Well, Well, I. 1535 01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:21.600 Just introduced the killer guy. I didn't get any of 1536 01:24:21.619 --> 01:24:23.020 the evidence or anything. 1537 01:24:23.359 --> 01:24:23.979 Yeah, go ahead. 1538 01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:28.180 Yada, yada, yada. And I figured out where the physical 1539 01:24:28.300 --> 01:24:32.659 evidence was, ironically, from a woo-woo podcast. 1540 01:24:33.090 --> 01:24:33.399 Really? 1541 01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:37.609 Which was covering the same man in the same cemetery, 1542 01:24:37.710 --> 01:24:41.909 but about the booger man. And they were talking about 1543 01:24:41.949 --> 01:24:44.350 how he used to drive around in the 80s with 1544 01:24:44.489 --> 01:24:49.880 a skull in his car. That's nice. Once I had 1545 01:24:49.939 --> 01:24:54.810 a dog and its name was Bingo. But anyways, I 1546 01:24:54.829 --> 01:25:05.229 don't like him much

anymore. Now, I'll tell that to 1547 01:25:05.329 --> 01:25:12.569 another day, but since I'm off that, so what about a.k.a. 1548 01:25:12.789 --> 01:25:16.500 Alien Elmar? I don't know. 1549 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:19.319 I haven't been keeping track. What's she up to now? 1550 01:25:20.380 --> 01:25:26.380 Is she just, you know, eliminate Israel? Is that it? 1551 01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:27.859 Or what are we on to here? 1552 01:25:31.039 --> 01:25:37.930 Well, she lied about her dad. Her dad lied about 1553 01:25:38.609 --> 01:25:44.189 being persecuted. He was some kind of stinking Somalian pirate. 1554 01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:49.039 She lied about her age, lied about her name, married 1555 01:25:49.079 --> 01:25:53.699 her brother, stole a bunch of money from we the people. 1556 01:25:54.260 --> 01:25:59.760 And the minute that everyone started noticing the leering center, 1557 01:25:59.880 --> 01:26:04.069 all of a sudden, her net worth went from $ 30 1558 01:26:03.529 --> 01:26:08.250 million to $ 30 grand on the books. No explanation. 1559 01:26:08.510 --> 01:26:09.270 She just did it. 1560 01:26:09.829 --> 01:26:14.140 So, you know, she's got like six children. criminal investigations 1561 01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:14.800 going on. 1562 01:26:14.699 --> 01:26:19.050 Right now well you know what if that's the case 1563 01:26:19.350 --> 01:26:20.890 it would be nice to see one of them go 1564 01:26:20.930 --> 01:26:24.590 down you know out of the 500 or so that 1565 01:26:24.609 --> 01:26:30.590 I'm sure are guilty in DC but yeah sure and 1566 01:26:30.829 --> 01:26:34.520 absolutely what did she do lie on her refugee did 1567 01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:37.960 her dad lie on his refugee status or was it 1568 01:26:38.020 --> 01:26:42.439 her lying on her refugee status or both Little from Columbia. 1569 01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:43.840 Oh, they all were. 1570 01:26:44.579 --> 01:26:45.399 Every one of them. 1571 01:26:45.699 --> 01:26:47.600 The dad, the daughter. 1572 01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:52.029 She had to be a minor in order to get 1573 01:26:52.050 --> 01:26:55.810 into the country. So she was 18. She claimed to 1574 01:26:55.869 --> 01:26:59.289 be 17. So every time she signed a piece of 1575 01:26:59.350 --> 01:27:05.949 paper for Congress, a driver's license, she's committing, you know, fraud, 1576 01:27:06.149 --> 01:27:08.609 a continual criminal conspiracy. 1577 01:27:08.829 --> 01:27:09.029 Mm-hmm. 1578 01:27:10.369 --> 01:27:15.489 Now, I know that in Middle Eastern countries, they count 1579 01:27:15.550 --> 01:27:19.909 birthdays differently. Is that possibly her defense? 1580 01:27:20.710 --> 01:27:20.970 No. 1581 01:27:21.270 --> 01:27:22.189 No, it's not that? 1582 01:27:22.350 --> 01:27:28.329 No. No, the thing was, her father, supposedly her father, 1583 01:27:28.350 --> 01:27:31.979 because now there's word coming out that she's not even 1584 01:27:32.029 --> 01:27:36.720 that guy's daughter. In Somalia, they had a dictator who 1585

01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:43.260 got overthrown in a coup. And supposedly Ilhan's father was 1586 01:27:43.300 --> 01:27:46.039 a colonel or something in this guy's army and was 1587 01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:50.760 responsible for some really shady stuff and a couple of genocides. 1588 01:27:51.500 --> 01:27:56.460 So when the coup happened, they fled. And I forget 1589 01:27:56.500 --> 01:28:01.229 where they went to first. I want to say Iran 1590 01:28:01.310 --> 01:28:04.310 or Iraq. Anyway, they went to another country and then 1591 01:28:04.350 --> 01:28:07.270 they came to the United States. He had to be 1592 01:28:07.310 --> 01:28:09.779 here five years to get naturalized. 1593 01:28:10.060 --> 01:28:10.359 Right. 1594 01:28:10.819 --> 01:28:15.119 So the five years comes up. Supposedly, he was naturalized, 1595 01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:21.600 and she was naturalized as being his dependent daughter. Okay. Yeah, 1596 01:28:21.659 --> 01:28:23.600 being underage. He had to be under the age of 1597 01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:30.880 18 to get the derivative family naturalization. 1598 01:28:31.159 --> 01:28:31.420 Right. 1599 01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:35.789 So apparently, her father died a few years ago. When 1600 01:28:35.930 --> 01:28:39.899 she was running for i think it was her first 1601 01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:43.399 when she ran on her first election the person running 1602 01:28:43.479 --> 01:28:47.229 against her did a search and they could not find 1603 01:28:47.270 --> 01:28:53.229 the naturalization records for her supposed father so that got 1604 01:28:53.369 --> 01:28:56.710 shuffled under you know in minnesota that got shuffled under 1605 01:28:56.750 --> 01:29:01.539 the the rug And so now it's come back. There's 1606 01:29:01.640 --> 01:29:04.199 been a lot of talk in the Somali community that, yeah, 1607 01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:06.359 she's been pulling the fraud and she's been getting money 1608 01:29:06.420 --> 01:29:12.560 from all of the COVID and unemployment and the health 1609 01:29:12.600 --> 01:29:15.060 care scams and everything that's been going on in Minnesota, 1610 01:29:15.100 --> 01:29:18.460 both her and Keith Ellison. But the story about the name, 1611 01:29:18.680 --> 01:29:24.539 apparently she married a guy that was a Muslim, had 1612 01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:29.270 two kids. They were not legally married. They were religiously married. 1613 01:29:29.289 --> 01:29:29.890 Okay. 1614 01:29:30.010 --> 01:29:37.979 And then she marries another guy legally in some church. 1615 01:29:38.229 --> 01:29:41.880 Wasn't even in a, in through the Muslim practice. It 1616 01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:45.020 was a Christian church that she got married in. They've 1617 01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:46.659 gone back and checked records. 1618 01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:47.859 Yeah. 1619 01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:53.279 Um, apparently her name was, The name she's using now 1620 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.630 is not the name she came in this country under. 1621 01:29:57.210 --> 01:29:59.970 And that name was the same last name as the 1622 01:30:00.029 --> 01:30:02.829 guy that she married. And that's where the story a 1623 01:30:02.869 --> 01:30:05.720 few years back where she married her brother. He was 1624 01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:09.270 in the U.K., She marries him trying to get a 1625 01:30:09.289 --> 01:30:12.020 green card, but then he ends up going back to 1626 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:15.060 the UK and never gets the green card. So they're 1627 01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:17.579 saying she married him just as a chance to get 1628 01:30:17.619 --> 01:30:21.640 him naturalized, but it didn't work. Then she ends up 1629 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:26.619 divorcing this guy, not legally. No, that was the first one. 1630 01:30:26.659 --> 01:30:29.920 She didn't divorce, not legally. She divorces this guy and 1631 01:30:29.960 --> 01:30:32.899 goes back with the first husband, the one that she 1632 01:30:32.939 --> 01:30:33.859 had the two kids with. 1633 01:30:33.979 --> 01:30:38.760 Okay, who she never filed paperwork on to be married to. 1634 01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:41.600 But was that in America or was that elsewhere? 1635 01:30:41.689 --> 01:30:42.649 Yeah, that was over here. 1636 01:30:42.810 --> 01:30:45.270 That was here. Okay. So she had the first. 1637 01:30:45.090 --> 01:30:49.750 Marriage that was supposedly religious. but never got divorced, married 1638 01:30:49.789 --> 01:30:54.010 the second guy, which was religious, divorced him, went back 1639 01:30:54.050 --> 01:30:59.680 with the first one, married him legally, I think, and 1640 01:30:59.739 --> 01:31:02.319 then ended up divorcing him and is now married to 1641 01:31:02.359 --> 01:31:04.439 a white guy that's been running her campaign. 1642 01:31:04.640 --> 01:31:08.479 Now, what's funny about this is that I am actually 1643 01:31:08.750 --> 01:31:17.300 literally technically a reverend. And have done the paperwork on this. So, 1644 01:31:17.659 --> 01:31:20.699 you know, there's slightly different laws depending on where you are. 1645 01:31:21.220 --> 01:31:23.560 You know, like you got to actually file the paperwork 1646 01:31:23.760 --> 01:31:26.640 in the hometown of the bride and all that kind 1647 01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:31.159 of stuff in certain places, et cetera, et cetera. But 1648 01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:35.140 here's the thing. Yes, you do both things. You do 1649 01:31:35.159 --> 01:31:41.899 the religious service and also you do the legal paperwork. Um, 1650 01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:46.060 and my signature is only on two marriages, but, um. 1651 01:31:46.850 --> 01:31:48.149 Well, her problem is this. 1652 01:31:48.210 --> 01:31:48.430 Yeah. 1653 01:31:48.770 --> 01:31:51.350 She has some old posts back on Facebook years ago. 1654 01:31:51.449 --> 01:31:55.090 Like one, she had a child that was born and 1655 01:31:55.149 --> 01:31:58.350 it was her daughter. I think it was her second kid. Right. 1656 01:31:58.789 --> 01:32:01.140

When she was married to the first guy, the second 1657 01:32:01.180 --> 01:32:04.989 guy she married that supposedly is her brother. is pictured 1658 01:32:05.229 --> 01:32:07.970 on Facebook on a post that he made where he's 1659 01:32:07.989 --> 01:32:10.810 talking about his niece was just born and he's holding 1660 01:32:11.189 --> 01:32:15.149 the child. Right. So these things from the past from 1661 01:32:15.369 --> 01:32:19.340 family members are what's starting to trip her up. Yeah, 1662 01:32:19.359 --> 01:32:20.880 for sure. Because we're going back and getting all this. Now, 1663 01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:23.460 they went and got an indictment. They got a warrant 1664 01:32:24.279 --> 01:32:28.119 signed by a Democrat judge in D.C., and that's damn 1665 01:32:28.140 --> 01:32:29.039 near impossible to. 1666 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:32.739 Do against a Democrat. Here's an interesting thing about that 1667 01:32:32.779 --> 01:32:38.180 child is that if she's not technically legally– okay, if 1668 01:32:38.260 --> 01:32:42.579 she's not legally married to the guy, then you can't 1669 01:32:42.680 --> 01:32:47.850 attribute that child to the father– Without having a legal 1670 01:32:47.909 --> 01:32:50.369 sworn affidavit attached to the birth certificate. 1671 01:32:51.449 --> 01:32:51.729 Right. 1672 01:32:52.630 --> 01:32:56.760 So there's a whole technicality about that as well, where 1673 01:32:56.899 --> 01:32:59.720 now what is the paternity of that child legally? 1674 01:33:01.340 --> 01:33:04.699 Well, they just took her DNA, so we will know 1675 01:33:04.779 --> 01:33:05.399 very quick. 1676 01:33:05.880 --> 01:33:09.699 Oh, they took DNA on the child. Okay. I wasn't aware. 1677 01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:10.510 Yeah. 1678 01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:15.970 The child that's a representative, they busted into her house, Chuck. 1679 01:33:16.289 --> 01:33:20.829 They slarmed her, and they slarmed her big mouth. 1680 01:33:20.869 --> 01:33:22.289 Well, okay. 1681 01:33:22.369 --> 01:33:23.250 They got her DNA. 1682 01:33:23.409 --> 01:33:26.029 So they're going to have results within a couple of weeks. 1683 01:33:26.189 --> 01:33:27.729 Usually takes a couple of weeks to process. 1684 01:33:28.829 --> 01:33:30.729 OK, well, but there's a new twist. 1685 01:33:30.909 --> 01:33:31.609 OK, new twist. 1686 01:33:33.270 --> 01:33:36.449 Now they're saying that someone has gone back and checked 1687 01:33:36.510 --> 01:33:40.899 and there's a good chance that she's not this colonel's 1688 01:33:41.270 --> 01:33:46.079 daughter from Somalia, but the actual dictator's daughter. 1689 01:33:47.359 --> 01:33:47.880 Wow. 1690 01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:51.279 Who this colonel said, I'll take her with me, get 1691 01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:53.100 her out of the country, don't worry about it, and 1692 01:33:53.140 --> 01:33:57.659 then we can hook up later. Wow. So, yeah, that 1693 01:33:57.720 --> 01:34:01.180 brings another thing into it. And what happened was, after 1694 01:34:01.260 --> 01:34:07.539 she was elected to Congress, her office got the Office 1695 01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:11.430 of Records to change her birth date by a year. 1696 01:34:12.810 --> 01:34:16.170 And by changing it, it made her 17 the year 1697 01:34:16.250 --> 01:34:21.539 her dad was naturalized. Right. So that's, you know, she's saying, yeah, 1698 01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:25.270 but they also got the records in D.C. changed, they 1699 01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:28.130 got the records in Minnesota changed, and they got Wikipedia 1700 01:34:28.170 --> 01:34:29.229 to change their entry. 1701 01:34:30.250 --> 01:34:35.350 Well, okay, but does that mean now, all right, if 1702 01:34:35.409 --> 01:34:39.789 she's not that guy's daughter, though, doesn't that, like, negate 1703 01:34:40.069 --> 01:34:42.869 all of this, if she's not actually that guy's daughter? 1704 01:34:43.449 --> 01:34:47.689 Yes, if she's not the colonel's daughter, then it's fraud. 1705 01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:53.319 If she is the colonel's daughter but came here under 1706 01:34:53.439 --> 01:34:58.989 a different name, that's also fraud. Somehow she got a 1707 01:34:59.029 --> 01:35:05.649 passport because during the search– With the warrant, they took 1708 01:35:05.689 --> 01:35:07.630 her passport. They took her phones. They took all of 1709 01:35:07.649 --> 01:35:12.779 her electronics. They also issued subpoenas for family members. This 1710 01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:16.520 all started when they got a hold of an old 1711 01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:20.010 phone that her sister had, and they started going through 1712 01:35:20.050 --> 01:35:26.989 the data. Text messages, phone calls. and tracking those connections down. 1713 01:35:27.289 --> 01:35:29.729 So I think they've issued like 20 subpoenas for family 1714 01:35:29.750 --> 01:35:32.130 members and other people that work for, pull them in 1715 01:35:32.149 --> 01:35:33.069 front of a grand jury. 1716 01:35:33.510 --> 01:35:38.220 Yeah, because they can pull apart everything. With metadata on 1717 01:35:38.260 --> 01:35:41.399 these things, they can pull everything apart, her movements, everything. 1718 01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:43.680 Oh, just a quick story. 1719 01:35:43.739 --> 01:35:49.779 That lady's done for. But also on the news, we 1720 01:35:49.819 --> 01:35:54.640 make a sum of hikes. Or not Selma, like Selma Blair. 1721 01:35:55.020 --> 01:35:57.020 I suppose Chuck hasn't heard about this. 1722 01:35:57.579 --> 01:35:58.640 Selma Blair? 1723 01:35:58.680 --> 01:36:01.479 She tried to open a door on an airplane and 1724 01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:03.310 bit people and whatnot. 1725 01:36:03.550 --> 01:36:08.409 Oh, that actress? Yeah, I don't know. That's just something 1726 01:36:09.210 --> 01:36:10.149 in the cranium there. 1727 01:36:10.649 --> 01:36:14.319 A little psychosis. I sort of read about that, but 1728 01:36:14.420 --> 01:36:17.079 I didn't understand what the hell was going on there. 1729

01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:19.920 I thought it was a made-up story. That's a real story? 1730 01:36:20.760 --> 01:36:22.659 Yeah, she tried to open a plane while it. 1731 01:36:23.819 --> 01:36:25.199 Was in air. 1732 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:25.479 Wow. 1733 01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:28.359 And she did it before. Ten years ago, she went 1734 01:36:28.420 --> 01:36:31.539 boxers on a plane. And she wrote a book talking 1735 01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:34.500 about how she likes to bite people. And she bit 1736 01:36:34.539 --> 01:36:38.439 a cop when they were taking her off this plane. Oh, 1737 01:36:38.520 --> 01:36:39.420 she's so terrific. 1738 01:36:40.560 --> 01:36:45.279 Biting people. I just... It's. 1739 01:36:45.060 --> 01:36:48.300 Weird how you hear these stories of these actresses and 1740 01:36:48.500 --> 01:36:52.380 actors from years ago. that never went on to do anything. 1741 01:36:52.420 --> 01:36:55.380 Look at the stuff with Anna, what was it, Anna Hesch, 1742 01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:58.350 before she died, you know, wrecking her car into a 1743 01:36:58.409 --> 01:37:01.930 house and then sitting up on the gurney when they've 1744 01:37:01.970 --> 01:37:04.109 got her covered up like she's dead, trying to put 1745 01:37:04.149 --> 01:37:04.930 her in the ambulance. 1746 01:37:05.270 --> 01:37:05.569 Right. 1747 01:37:05.789 --> 01:37:08.020 And then she ends up dying, what, four days later 1748 01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:10.500 when they cut the machine off. I mean, there's just 1749 01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:14.100 some weird stories to some of these people with a, Yeah, 1750 01:37:14.140 --> 01:37:15.180 history in Hollywood. 1751 01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:17.699 Yeah, well, you know what it reminds me of is 1752 01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:19.619 the very first one I ever heard of is, you 1753 01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:25.439 remember the Superman movie with Christopher Reeve, right? Uh, the 1754 01:37:25.529 --> 01:37:28.840 lady who played, uh, Lois Lane, I'm trying to remember 1755 01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:30.159 Margo Kidder. That's it. 1756 01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:30.619 Yeah. 1757 01:37:30.979 --> 01:37:31.779 Margo Kidder. 1758 01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:33.119 She went through all kinds of stuff. 1759 01:37:33.300 --> 01:37:36.479 Yeah. She went like totally nuts. She was running around 1760 01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:39.010 like she had her front teeth knocked out at some point. 1761 01:37:39.550 --> 01:37:41.909 So she was running around without her partial, like her 1762 01:37:41.930 --> 01:37:45.710 front teeth missing and babbling and like showing up at 1763 01:37:45.750 --> 01:37:48.729 people's houses and stripping off her clothes and screaming and 1764 01:37:48.770 --> 01:37:52.680 freaking out and stuff like just popping up in people's windows. 1765 01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:56.010 Like it's a horror movie. Um, and all kinds of 1766 01:37:56.050 --> 01:37:59.109 weird stuff. I don't know, man, I'm telling you, there 1767 01:37:59.170 --> 01:38:03.149

is something weird about Hollywood for sure. But Los Angeles 1768 01:38:03.210 --> 01:38:06.260 in general is like a strange, I don't know how 1769 01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:09.140 the nexus works. I mean, yes, I said on this 1770 01:38:09.159 --> 01:38:11.920 show already that Florida is an open air insane asylum, 1771 01:38:12.619 --> 01:38:16.539 but there is like a resonant evil in Hollywood. 1772 01:38:17.060 --> 01:38:19.750 Oh yeah. Look at the story of, um, Andy Dick, 1773 01:38:19.789 --> 01:38:22.010 you know, all the crap that he's been through. 1774 01:38:23.810 --> 01:38:28.789 But there's constantly stuff. Remember Martin Lawrence went around screaming 1775 01:38:28.829 --> 01:38:30.899 in the middle of the street about fight the power 1776 01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:33.500 with a gun in his hand and flipping out when 1777 01:38:33.539 --> 01:38:37.119 he was making millions of dollars. Like these guys lose 1778 01:38:37.159 --> 01:38:40.840 their minds and women, too. But they lose their freaking 1779 01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:46.500 minds because there is such weird. a psychology going on. 1780 01:38:47.079 --> 01:38:49.800 And I mean, yes, it's true about the casting couch 1781 01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:51.720 and all that. And it's like, I can't believe people 1782 01:38:51.739 --> 01:38:54.289 are even shocked about that now. Oh my God. I 1783 01:38:54.310 --> 01:38:57.670 can't believe that used to happen. Oh, you didn't realize 1784 01:38:57.710 --> 01:38:59.869 that sometimes, you know, women who wanted to roll in 1785 01:38:59.890 --> 01:39:02.800 Hollywood would maybe, you know, take a role in the mouth. 1786 01:39:03.590 --> 01:39:06.550 I mean, you know, just saying what a shocker, because 1787 01:39:06.569 --> 01:39:09.890 that doesn't happen, you know, for drugs and everything else 1788 01:39:10.090 --> 01:39:13.350 every day, everywhere in this country. So, you know, big 1789 01:39:13.390 --> 01:39:16.590 shocker there. But no, but there is a weird psychological 1790 01:39:16.649 --> 01:39:20.829 thing that just wrecks people, you know, wrecks. And I mean, 1791 01:39:20.890 --> 01:39:22.210 some people would say you got to be a little 1792 01:39:22.250 --> 01:39:25.909 crazy to be creative and pretending you're somebody else as 1793 01:39:25.949 --> 01:39:28.630 an actor and all that. And maybe it's, you know, 1794 01:39:29.010 --> 01:39:32.069 on board with just people that want to perform. I 1795 01:39:32.149 --> 01:39:34.579 get it. But I'm telling you, there is something special 1796 01:39:35.300 --> 01:39:40.739 about Los Angeles and Hollywood that just twists and shatters 1797 01:39:40.779 --> 01:39:43.260 some people's minds at certain points. They go nuts. 1798 01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:47.010 Well, you know, you look at the person that, you know, 1799 01:39:47.069 --> 01:39:49.550 look at how many people just up and decided they 1800 01:39:49.609 --> 01:39:52.050 wanted to be in the show business. So they throw 1801 01:39:52.109 --> 01:39:54.189 their suitcase in a car and they head to California. 1802 01:39:55.369 --> 01:39:57.470 Used to be. And they find out, you know, they 1803 01:39:57.489 --> 01:39:59.850 find out that, you know, getting in the industry is hard. 1804 01:39:59.890 --> 01:40:01.729 You've got to know somebody to get in. It's a 1805 01:40:01.850 --> 01:40:05.529 fluke if, you know, you're an unknown without connections. 1806 01:40:05.770 --> 01:40:11.060 Right. That's why there's 40,000 people working as waiters and like, 1807 01:40:11.100 --> 01:40:13.699 you know, what do you call it? The guys who 1808 01:40:13.720 --> 01:40:16.140 work the car, you know, the parking lots and valets. 1809 01:40:16.159 --> 01:40:19.840 The largest service industry in the world is Hollywood. Yeah. 1810 01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:23.600 Because what you do is you service the rich people 1811 01:40:23.770 --> 01:40:26.170 that are part of Hollywood and you try and, you know, 1812 01:40:26.229 --> 01:40:28.329 slip in the script or get in their head or 1813 01:40:28.369 --> 01:40:30.270 make a friend or whatever it is you can do, 1814 01:40:30.289 --> 01:40:33.670 because that's the way it works. Even the guy, you know, 1815 01:40:33.710 --> 01:40:37.470 it's strange, like the guy who, you know, created Star Trek. 1816 01:40:37.529 --> 01:40:37.729 Right. 1817 01:40:38.449 --> 01:40:41.180 He's out there as a cop. He was a traffic 1818 01:40:41.220 --> 01:40:45.289 cop in L.A., a motorcycle cop. That was his job, 1819 01:40:45.529 --> 01:40:48.090 and that's what he used to barge in on some 1820 01:40:48.130 --> 01:40:51.390 Hollywood people in a restaurant and drop a script on 1821 01:40:51.409 --> 01:40:54.069 them to get his first TV show, which wasn't Star Trek. 1822 01:40:54.750 --> 01:40:58.130 It was something called The Lieutenant, I think, and he 1823 01:40:58.170 --> 01:41:00.260 also got to write for a couple other TV shows, 1824 01:41:00.300 --> 01:41:04.039 but that's how he broke into the business. But that's 1825 01:41:04.060 --> 01:41:06.380 the thing, is that it's all about access to the 1826 01:41:06.420 --> 01:41:11.619 people who already have access. And that's weird enough, but 1827 01:41:11.659 --> 01:41:16.390 I'm telling you, there's something... On an ethereal level, a 1828 01:41:16.439 --> 01:41:24.130 spiritual level that is just caustic about Hollywood and Los 1829 01:41:24.210 --> 01:41:26.930 Angeles in general. I couldn't stand it. 1830 01:41:27.430 --> 01:41:29.609 L.A. just chews people up. I mean, look at their 1831 01:41:29.649 --> 01:41:30.529 homeless situation. 1832 01:41:30.630 --> 01:41:32.689 Well, I couldn't see it. But there's homeless everywhere. 1833 01:41:32.970 --> 01:41:34.369 I'm saying not like that. 1834 01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:36.380 Well, when I went there in the 90s, it's not 1835 01:41:36.399 --> 01:41:38.439 too bad to be homeless in L.A., though, to be 1836 01:41:38.460 --> 01:41:41.460 honest with you,

because nice weather. And there's a lot 1837 01:41:41.500 --> 01:41:43.560 of there's a lot of help there. You don't have 1838 01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:45.460 to suffer as much as you do in other places. 1839 01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:48.539 I got to tell you. And I only lived there 1840 01:41:48.579 --> 01:41:51.560 for like 90 days. That is as long as I 1841 01:41:51.600 --> 01:41:55.430 could stand being in Los Angeles. 90 days. I couldn't 1842 01:41:55.489 --> 01:41:58.949 handle it. It was just like it was too bizarre 1843 01:42:00.020 --> 01:42:03.000 to try and navigate what I thought would be a 1844 01:42:03.260 --> 01:42:05.729 wide open, you know, a way for me to get 1845 01:42:05.890 --> 01:42:09.069 deeper into music and get. You know, and get myself 1846 01:42:09.109 --> 01:42:12.199 more established as a business, you know, as a musician. 1847 01:42:12.220 --> 01:42:15.979 True, but look at the size of L.A. and all 1848 01:42:16.039 --> 01:42:18.840 of the other communities that butt up to L.A. and 1849 01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:22.029 service L.A. Right. And you've got so many people there, 1850 01:42:22.569 --> 01:42:26.829 and the pressure to succeed is exceedingly high in a 1851 01:42:26.869 --> 01:42:28.109 very expensive place. 1852 01:42:28.449 --> 01:42:28.880 Well, right. 1853 01:42:28.899 --> 01:42:31.899 You know, a lot of these people, they just... They 1854 01:42:31.979 --> 01:42:34.050 end up going crazy trying to make it. 1855 01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:36.100 Well, and there are people that are just crazy that 1856 01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:39.010 never make it. And believe me, I was dealing with that. 1857 01:42:39.210 --> 01:42:43.489 I was in an apartment that was basically like, I 1858 01:42:43.510 --> 01:42:45.670 don't know, it was like a wooden building under a pier. 1859 01:42:45.829 --> 01:42:48.970 I kid you not. And, you know, there was like 1860 01:42:49.069 --> 01:42:52.050 eight of us in there. And when I say like 1861 01:42:52.130 --> 01:42:53.850 eight of us, I couldn't keep track of how many 1862 01:42:53.899 --> 01:42:56.100 guys were crashing in this place. We were all kicking 1863 01:42:56.159 --> 01:42:59.319 in money because, you know, it was cheaper. to do that. 1864 01:42:59.439 --> 01:43:01.510 And we all kicked into the rent kitty and paid 1865 01:43:01.550 --> 01:43:04.470 it right. In order to just have a place there. 1866 01:43:05.390 --> 01:43:08.050 But I was dealing with, you know, out of eight 1867 01:43:08.069 --> 01:43:11.689 of us altogether, uh, at least five mental patients, 24 1868 01:43:11.689 --> 01:43:15.600 hours a day. I mean, mental patients that I I'm 1869 01:43:15.659 --> 01:43:19.939 against meds in general, but these, these motherfuckers need events. Uh, 1870 01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:22.000 most of them, I mean, and they were, it's not 1871 01:43:22.039 --> 01:43:24.350 even like they were bad. They were pretty good musicians, uh, 1872 01:43:25.229 --> 01:43:28.489 But they were freaking nuts. They would just do crazy 1873 01:43:28.550 --> 01:43:33.609 stuff and just to get attention. You know, and I 1874 01:43:33.630 --> 01:43:36.590 don't mind going out working the streets and flyers. You know, 1875 01:43:36.609 --> 01:43:39.689 you give away your demos. You try and, you know, 1876 01:43:39.710 --> 01:43:43.289 the old tricks that you heard about in the different documentaries. 1877 01:43:43.329 --> 01:43:45.609 You know, you get a couple of girls to really 1878 01:43:45.649 --> 01:43:47.770 like you. So they'll bring you groceries and all that. 1879 01:43:48.340 --> 01:43:51.829 All that stuff is true. In Los Angeles and not 1880 01:43:51.869 --> 01:43:54.140 necessarily every other city in the world and not even 1881 01:43:54.189 --> 01:43:57.199 in New York. New York City ain't like that. Los 1882 01:43:57.319 --> 01:44:01.319 Angeles is like not of this world, bro. I'm telling you, 1883 01:44:02.060 --> 01:44:04.729 I don't know how to describe what's wrong with it. 1884 01:44:05.579 --> 01:44:08.899 But there is a certain thing there where it doesn't 1885 01:44:08.939 --> 01:44:11.779 even belong on this planet, Los Angeles, in my mind. 1886 01:44:12.489 --> 01:44:14.289 Well, L.A., it's La La Land. 1887 01:44:15.029 --> 01:44:18.130 Well, La La Land, the City of Angels, you know, 1888 01:44:18.729 --> 01:44:22.699 it's like The Walking Dead. At certain points, too. You know, 1889 01:44:23.060 --> 01:44:25.949 it's really strange. What about California? 1890 01:44:26.210 --> 01:44:31.909 The new statistics say California, 52% of the people living 1891 01:44:31.949 --> 01:44:35.930 there weren't born in the United States. Gee, I wonder 1892 01:44:35.949 --> 01:44:39.069 if that's going to continue to have a negative effect. 1893 01:44:39.930 --> 01:44:43.489 I don't know if it's that, because, frankly, in L.A. 1894 01:44:43.529 --> 01:44:47.090 where I was, the Mexicans were not hanging out with 1895 01:44:47.170 --> 01:44:50.310 the musicians anymore. You know what I'm saying? It was 1896 01:44:50.569 --> 01:44:52.270 all kinds of American people. 1897 01:44:52.289 --> 01:44:55.850 This is new information. This all happened during Biden. 1898 01:44:56.520 --> 01:44:57.899 Oh, okay. Well, that may be. 1899 01:44:58.300 --> 01:45:02.119 Yeah, no. 15 million, 20 million. 1900 01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:07.359 Yeah, no, my experience is when Clinton was president. 1901 01:45:07.539 --> 01:45:12.390 They said 25% of violent crime was committed by illegal aliens. 1902 01:45:13.510 --> 01:45:14.569 The serious stuff. 1903 01:45:14.869 --> 01:45:15.739 So 25% of the murders.... 1904 01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:18.960 Shit would never happen. 1905 01:45:19.479 --> 01:45:24.390 Well, I don't know about that statistic there. Like I said, 1906 01:45:24.430 --> 01:45:26.890 I'm talking about my own personal experience, which, as you said, 1907 01:45:26.970 --> 01:45:31.250 was way before any of what's going on now. So 1908 01:45:31.329

--> 01:45:33.850 maybe it's a totally different situation now, and maybe it 1909 01:45:33.989 --> 01:45:37.430 is a lot of things. But I got to tell 1910 01:45:37.470 --> 01:45:40.760 you that most of the stuff that I've talked about 1911 01:45:40.850 --> 01:45:42.939 other people with that have been there at different times, 1912 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:46.539 like from the 70s to not too long ago, We 1913 01:45:46.619 --> 01:45:49.340 all describe the same crazy things. And most of the 1914 01:45:49.380 --> 01:45:53.220 guys that I ran into and even the women that 1915 01:45:53.260 --> 01:45:56.119 were there were from other parts of the country. They 1916 01:45:56.159 --> 01:46:00.720 were Americans, but they came from everywhere. Iowa and freaking, 1917 01:46:00.819 --> 01:46:03.579 you know, places where I've never gone, but I know 1918 01:46:03.619 --> 01:46:07.039 exist on a map like Montana and stuff like that. 1919 01:46:07.159 --> 01:46:11.180 Like they're in L.A. trying to do stuff. So people 1920 01:46:11.220 --> 01:46:13.930 come from all over the country and probably all over 1921 01:46:13.970 --> 01:46:18.310 the world. to Los Angeles to try and, you know, again, 1922 01:46:18.409 --> 01:46:21.470 get that hookup. Like you said, BP, it's the idea 1923 01:46:21.489 --> 01:46:24.229 of getting to know somebody to know somebody. And then 1924 01:46:24.270 --> 01:46:28.649 at the same time, the massive service industry, which would create, 1925 01:46:29.369 --> 01:46:32.229 I guess, you know what, an atmosphere where there's a 1926 01:46:32.270 --> 01:46:35.649 lot of illegals because service industry, guess what? Whether it's 1927 01:46:35.989 --> 01:46:39.850 packing chicken parts or it's doing gardening, there's a lot 1928 01:46:39.890 --> 01:46:44.760 of illegals in the system. And believe me, corporate America 1929 01:46:44.819 --> 01:46:48.279 pretends it's against it, but they benefit from it. Now, 1930 01:46:48.810 --> 01:46:50.989 I don't know about the violent crime statistics as of 1931 01:46:51.069 --> 01:46:54.729 late in Los Angeles. I haven't looked at it, honestly. 1932 01:46:55.890 --> 01:46:58.210 But I probably should. I was looking at San Francisco 1933 01:46:58.229 --> 01:47:00.329 and stuff. But go ahead. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. 1934 01:47:00.390 --> 01:47:00.520 And. 1935 01:47:05.460 --> 01:47:08.300 This is just kind of cool. I mean, I don't know. 1936 01:47:08.380 --> 01:47:14.340 You guys have probably heard of Don Ives and the 1937 01:47:14.380 --> 01:47:15.420 boys in the tracks. 1938 01:47:17.619 --> 01:47:20.390 Oh, yeah, yeah. From Arkansas? Mina? 1939 01:47:22.109 --> 01:47:29.170 Yeah, well, Mina got foisted on it, yeah. But definitely 1940 01:47:29.210 --> 01:47:30.390 two boys. 1941 01:47:29.930 --> 01:47:30.569 In the tracks. 1942 01:47:30.930 --> 01:47:35.939 Anyways, the mother died. And now there's this podcaster that 1943 01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:40.159 she gave all her crap to. He got all kinds 1944

01:47:40.220 --> 01:47:42.720 of other crap that no one else has seen. And 1945 01:47:42.779 --> 01:47:48.100 he's going to dive into it and start an investigation podcast. 1946 01:47:48.319 --> 01:47:51.479 He's going down there and all this stuff. So it's 1947 01:47:51.550 --> 01:47:52.409 been interesting. 1948 01:47:53.329 --> 01:47:56.270 Who is that guy? Do you know his name off 1949 01:47:56.289 --> 01:47:57.529 the top of your head? Yeah. 1950 01:47:59.020 --> 01:48:02.920 No but i believe the show's called crime. 1951 01:48:02.390 --> 01:48:07.010 Scene crime scene well that's a generic enough name can 1952 01:48:07.029 --> 01:48:09.149 you do me a favor email me the link because 1953 01:48:09.430 --> 01:48:11.489 i would like to hear what the guys got to 1954 01:48:11.529 --> 01:48:15.130 be honest with you that's one of those cases yeah good. 1955 01:48:15.789 --> 01:48:22.960 Crime scene sony music entertainment so pretty big you know 1956 01:48:23.220 --> 01:48:28.640 outfit yeah he's got back trying to find out this 1957 01:48:28.720 --> 01:48:32.600 guy's name john. 1958 01:48:31.739 --> 01:48:35.779 Birch Well, either put it in the chat at Ocelli.com 1959 01:48:35.819 --> 01:48:37.819 or email it to me, and I'll spread it around 1960 01:48:37.920 --> 01:48:40.890 because I would like to know personally. 1961 01:48:40.899 --> 01:48:43.250 Yeah, I'd like to listen to that. 1962 01:48:43.529 --> 01:48:45.869 Yeah, I mean, you'd want to hear it, right, BP? 1963 01:48:46.670 --> 01:48:51.970 Yeah, I read everything I could ever find on the 1964 01:48:52.010 --> 01:48:55.680 Mina situation and Clinton's connection to it. 1965 01:48:56.869 --> 01:48:58.989 Oh, yeah. No, in the 90s, I mean, I was 1966 01:48:59.029 --> 01:49:03.590 reading Bloodsport and all that stuff. Remember Bloodsport, the anonymous? 1967 01:49:03.750 --> 01:49:03.989 Yeah. 1968 01:49:04.689 --> 01:49:07.890 I mean, yeah. And I got into the deep conspiracy stuff. 1969 01:49:07.930 --> 01:49:11.149 Vince Foster, you know, that one. 1970 01:49:11.250 --> 01:49:13.890 I'm telling you that one. I'm surprised no one has 1971 01:49:13.989 --> 01:49:15.069 opened that one back up. 1972 01:49:17.270 --> 01:49:19.409 See, that's the weird thing. And, you know, that. 1973 01:49:19.289 --> 01:49:21.510 Was for Ruddy got his start with Newsmax. 1974 01:49:21.710 --> 01:49:24.109 Yeah, that's how he got his stuff rolling. And I 1975 01:49:24.489 --> 01:49:28.399 think if I'm not mistaken, isn't that how what is 1976 01:49:28.439 --> 01:49:31.140 that other Web site that like has never changed its 1977 01:49:31.199 --> 01:49:35.739 front page? Really? That's been out there. Drudge report. Yeah. 1978 01:49:36.659 --> 01:49:40.319 The Drudge report, I think, like really made its bones 1979 01:49:40.680 --> 01:49:42.079 on the Vince Foster thing, didn't it? 1980 01:49:43.689 --> 01:49:48.649 Yeah, that was before he flipped. He was quick to 1981 01:49:48.689 --> 01:49:51.470 have anything against the Clintons put up there. 1982 01:49:51.550 --> 01:49:54.050 Yeah, for a long time. 1983 01:49:54.649 --> 01:49:57.850 Didn't Drugs Report break the story of the blue dress 1984 01:49:57.909 --> 01:49:58.979 with Monica Lewinsky? 1985 01:50:00.140 --> 01:50:01.140 I could have swore they did. 1986 01:50:01.159 --> 01:50:04.420 It was one of them. 1987 01:50:05.199 --> 01:50:08.619 Although, weird side note about that, and a lot of 1988 01:50:08.659 --> 01:50:12.600 people forget this nowadays, but What was it? Jake Tapper was, like, 1989 01:50:12.939 --> 01:50:16.159 taking her out on dates. Monica Lewinsky. 1990 01:50:17.399 --> 01:50:17.840 Oh, man. 1991 01:50:17.859 --> 01:50:22.239 The CNN guy. And I always found that hilarious, especially 1992 01:50:22.279 --> 01:50:24.810 because we've now seen him be, like, the senior newscaster 1993 01:50:24.850 --> 01:50:27.750 at CNN, you know, for many years and stuff. It's 1994 01:50:27.810 --> 01:50:28.689 pretty funny to me. 1995 01:50:29.130 --> 01:50:31.670 I got in it with somebody on X just two 1996 01:50:31.710 --> 01:50:35.750 days ago over the Monica Lewinsky thing when they posted 1997 01:50:35.789 --> 01:50:40.170 some post that she made, and it was like, you know, Clinton... 1998 01:50:40.590 --> 01:50:42.850 Clinton is– oh, I know what it was. Clinton was 1999 01:50:42.869 --> 01:50:45.340 given a speech somewhere and invoked the Bible as a 2000 01:50:45.380 --> 01:50:49.100 reason to vote for Democrats, and they brought up Monica Lewinsky, 2001 01:50:49.260 --> 01:50:52.500 and then Monica Lewinsky couldn't find a job. Nobody would 2002 01:50:52.560 --> 01:50:56.560 hire her after that whole episode. And she was a 2003 01:50:57.119 --> 01:50:59.920 big Bill Clinton Democrat supporter, and I made the comment. 2004 01:50:59.979 --> 01:51:01.140 I said, well, then that makes you all a bunch 2005 01:51:01.159 --> 01:51:04.170 of hypocrites. She said, well, what do you mean? I said, 2006 01:51:04.689 --> 01:51:09.880 a flaming liberal wouldn't even hire her? After that, it was, 2007 01:51:10.100 --> 01:51:12.270 you know, she says, I said, it's all politics. 2008 01:51:12.630 --> 01:51:12.829 Yeah. 2009 01:51:13.029 --> 01:51:15.449 Well, no, it can't just be politics. I said, well, 2010 01:51:16.229 --> 01:51:18.670 then why didn't a liberal company hire her? 2011 01:51:18.909 --> 01:51:21.529 Well, it's weird, the whole flip. And I only muted 2012 01:51:21.569 --> 01:51:24.159 Jimmy because of the feedback. But and I'm going to 2013 01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:26.380 bring you back on, Jimmy, obviously, at least to get 2014 01:51:26.420 --> 01:51:29.810 the closing on on on the week. But before that, 2015 01:51:29.869 --> 01:51:34.750 maybe the thing is, what has baffled me about this 2016 01:51:34.810 --> 01:51:37.850 Monica Lewinsky thing is how people have with a straight 2017 01:51:37.949 --> 01:51:41.720 face turned around and now acted like, well, you know, 2018

01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:44.119 you shouldn't pick on her and stuff. And it was 2019 01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:48.319 the same people going after her. And vice versa, right? 2020 01:51:48.380 --> 01:51:50.739 The same people that were defending her, like, how dare 2021 01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:52.100 you pick on this poor girl. 2022 01:51:52.420 --> 01:51:55.819 Look at how bad James Carville and Hillary Clinton went 2023 01:51:55.899 --> 01:51:56.250 after her. 2024 01:51:56.359 --> 01:51:59.510 Well, yeah, but nowadays, if you ask Carville, you know 2025 01:51:59.529 --> 01:52:02.310 what I'm saying? He goes, well, that was an unfortunate situation. 2026 01:52:03.050 --> 01:52:05.909 Carville is the closest thing we have to proof that 2027 01:52:05.949 --> 01:52:08.090 there's alien life visiting us, by the way, if you 2028 01:52:08.130 --> 01:52:08.489 look at it. 2029 01:52:08.489 --> 01:52:08.930 Very much. 2030 01:52:09.390 --> 01:52:12.659 I mean, you've seen his face? It's like, I forget 2031 01:52:12.699 --> 01:52:15.000 which Alien movie it was where the guy's face is 2032 01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:17.699 made of clay. You know, which movie is that? Do 2033 01:52:17.720 --> 01:52:20.399 you remember? I know you know what I'm talking about, though. 2034 01:52:20.430 --> 01:52:23.090 No, I wasn't much into Alien movies. But he's like 2035 01:52:23.130 --> 01:52:26.109 a clay face. He looks more like Gollum in true 2036 01:52:26.149 --> 01:52:29.539 life than Judith Barry Baker. And she looks like Gollum. 2037 01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:34.899 She is getting a little, what was that, a shmead. 2038 01:52:38.100 --> 01:52:42.600 You know what's funny about that, too? Real quick. They 2039 01:52:42.649 --> 01:52:49.869 canceled Lancer, okay? And the obvious thing is happening, of course, 2040 01:52:50.210 --> 01:52:52.489 which is, oh, by the way, we have a convention 2041 01:52:52.529 --> 01:52:55.630 since you already booked. I knew this was going to happen. See, 2042 01:52:55.710 --> 01:52:59.319 this is the funny part about it. Is that, you know, 2043 01:52:59.739 --> 01:53:03.100 and and, of course, you know, what's her name is 2044 01:53:03.159 --> 01:53:04.800 in there going? I'm going to continue the legacy of 2045 01:53:04.859 --> 01:53:09.819 Deborah Conway and Larry Hancock. Larry Hancock has decidedly decided 2046 01:53:09.880 --> 01:53:13.239 not to be involved anymore. OK, but she's going to 2047 01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:16.510 continue his legacy anyway. Reminds me very much of Judy, 2048 01:53:17.369 --> 01:53:19.750 you know, who is going to continue John Judge's legacy 2049 01:53:19.770 --> 01:53:21.350 because she could attach herself to it. 2050 01:53:22.229 --> 01:53:22.310 OK. 2051 01:53:22.329 --> 01:53:22.510 OK. 2052 01:53:23.750 --> 01:53:26.810 But what they've done now as opportunists is exactly do 2053 01:53:26.869 --> 01:53:29.239 what I said they were going to do. Privately to 2054 01:53:29.279 --> 01:53:31.880 many people, I said, here's what's going to happen. The 2055 01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:35.079 Judy Baker Borg is going to take over the conferences 2056 01:53:35.140 --> 01:53:38.159 in Dallas. Well, it's now been set up to feed 2057 01:53:38.220 --> 01:53:42.510 the Lancer people to the Judy Baker Borg because it's like, hey, 2058 01:53:42.630 --> 01:53:46.289 you already booked your hotel. We're over at the DoubleTree 2059 01:53:46.329 --> 01:53:48.829 or TripleTree or whatever the hell it is. I don't 2060 01:53:48.890 --> 01:53:50.770 even want to get into specifics because I'm not going 2061 01:53:50.789 --> 01:53:53.470 to recommend it to anybody. But the thing is, we 2062 01:53:53.510 --> 01:53:56.390 got a great lineup. Hey, Lancer's canceled, and don't worry. 2063 01:53:57.010 --> 01:54:00.850 We're sure Gabby will be back. But in the meantime, 2064 01:54:01.069 --> 01:54:04.460 come and see us. Oh, yeah. 2065 01:54:04.479 --> 01:54:36.260 Yeah. in front of her conference. I've got to check in. 2066 01:54:36.279 --> 01:54:38.319 We're going to have to start a GoFundMe or something 2067 01:54:38.399 --> 01:54:39.100 or Kickstarter. 2068 01:54:39.819 --> 01:54:41.909 Well, that would be great, but, I mean, it's less 2069 01:54:41.930 --> 01:54:42.850 than a month away now. 2070 01:54:43.789 --> 01:54:45.470 Well, I'm going to make some calls. We'll see what 2071 01:54:45.510 --> 01:54:46.229 it costs per day. 2072 01:54:46.569 --> 01:54:50.050 Yeah, I mean, look, if you can possibly put an 2073 01:54:50.430 --> 01:54:54.029 Ocelli Effect logo alongside of that, I'd really be grateful. 2074 01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:55.539 Just add it to the image. 2075 01:54:55.579 --> 01:54:56.199 Oh, definitely. 2076 01:54:56.220 --> 01:55:02.189 Definitely. Because I sent her a book last year. Because, 2077 01:55:02.439 --> 01:55:05.100 you know, Gabby had the idiot who was, you know, 2078 01:55:05.239 --> 01:55:08.119 running her conference in air quotes. I'm holding him up 2079 01:55:08.159 --> 01:55:11.659 for those of you playing at home, you know, sent 2080 01:55:11.899 --> 01:55:14.819 him over to talk at Lancer. He was the first speaker. 2081 01:55:14.840 --> 01:55:17.720 I should have known I was going to get screwed 2082 01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:19.739 over when I was dealing with that. Anyway, I put 2083 01:55:19.779 --> 01:55:25.689 in a Ziploc bag one of Walt Brown's books about Judy. And, uh, 2084 01:55:26.170 --> 01:55:29.850 signed in big giant Sharpie on the book. I was like, 2085 01:55:30.350 --> 01:55:34.529 you are a liar and a fraud. And I think 2086 01:55:34.590 --> 01:55:36.989 I said, love Chuck O'Chelly in there. And I signed 2087 01:55:37.029 --> 01:55:39.210 it that way. And just, can you give this to 2088 01:55:39.250 --> 01:55:42.560 Judy for me? Um, you know, I gave it to 2089 01:55:42.569 --> 01:55:44.439 that dude. I don't know if it ever made it there. 2090 01:55:44.579 --> 01:55:47.220 I never heard about it, but I tried to give 2091

01:55:47.260 --> 01:55:50.539 her Walt Brown's book. I'm sure she's seen it elsewhere. 2092 01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:54.050 Do you think she could possibly resist looking at the 2093 01:55:54.090 --> 01:55:56.649 book that's calling her a fraud? I don't think so. 2094 01:55:56.750 --> 01:55:58.949 I don't know. It only took one post for her 2095 01:55:58.970 --> 01:56:00.210 to block me on Twitter. 2096 01:56:00.909 --> 01:56:03.869 Well, you know, I'm not actually technically blocked from her 2097 01:56:03.949 --> 01:56:07.909 on Facebook. My old account was. She keeps coming up 2098 01:56:08.050 --> 01:56:12.989 as a friend suggestion on my stupid Facebook page. I 2099 01:56:13.029 --> 01:56:16.039 keep cracking up and I keep almost daring myself. Maybe 2100 01:56:16.100 --> 01:56:18.159 I should just send her a friend request. See what 2101 01:56:18.460 --> 01:56:19.239 she blocked me. 2102 01:56:19.279 --> 01:56:23.420 She blocked me on Facebook a long time ago. 2103 01:56:23.439 --> 01:56:26.739 Oh, I know she did, but it's still, she blocked me. 2104 01:56:27.100 --> 01:56:30.739 I don't know, 10 years ago on there, but whatever. Um, 2105 01:56:31.619 --> 01:56:33.739 you know, I, and, and what also cracked me up 2106 01:56:33.819 --> 01:56:35.899 is I'm the one guy from, there's just this one 2107 01:56:35.960 --> 01:56:39.819 guy from New York that thinks I'm lying. That's me. 2108 01:56:40.140 --> 01:56:42.539 That's me. Because that was before Walt published his book 2109 01:56:42.579 --> 01:56:45.300 and everything. 2110 01:56:45.399 --> 01:56:48.659 Yeah. Her quickest response is, oh, that's just a troll. 2111 01:56:49.159 --> 01:56:52.689 And they just talk to each other to boost their visibility. 2112 01:56:52.729 --> 01:56:55.930 And I'm sitting here thinking, woman, if we could sit 2113 01:56:55.989 --> 01:57:01.189 down for an hour, you wouldn't last five minutes, right? 2114 01:57:03.020 --> 01:57:04.359 without being caught in a lie. 2115 01:57:04.840 --> 01:57:07.399 Listen, I got the 10-minute challenge for her. If she 2116 01:57:07.439 --> 01:57:11.149 can survive 10 minutes and actually answer my questions, I 2117 01:57:11.189 --> 01:57:13.319 will apologize for everything I've ever said to her. 2118 01:57:15.949 --> 01:57:17.770 You'll never hear those words out of my mouth. 2119 01:57:17.829 --> 01:57:18.770 But I know I won't fail. 2120 01:57:18.770 --> 01:57:19.770 10 minutes is all I got. 2121 01:57:19.770 --> 01:57:19.949 10 minutes? 2122 01:57:25.609 --> 01:57:29.229 I have information on Oswald that I can confirm with 2123 01:57:29.270 --> 01:57:32.750 a living witness that she absolutely has no knowledge of 2124 01:57:32.789 --> 01:57:33.880 that she should have knowledge of. 2125 01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:38.760 So, you know, after Dave reaches put his big list 2126 01:57:38.770 --> 01:57:44.460 together of all the contradictions, you know, you'd go to 2127 01:57:44.500 --> 01:57:49.840 the JFK assassination forum and

you'd go to education forum 2128 01:57:50.960 --> 01:57:53.460 and you would see these people talking and bringing her up. 2129 01:57:53.500 --> 01:57:58.109 And I'm sitting here thinking, That's probably the biggest indicator 2130 01:57:58.189 --> 01:58:03.380 of whether somebody will believe anything is the fact that 2131 01:58:03.399 --> 01:58:04.779 they believe Judith Barry Baker. 2132 01:58:05.619 --> 01:58:05.899 Yeah. 2133 01:58:05.970 --> 01:58:10.100 That's the biggest indicator to me. If they mention her or... well, 2134 01:58:10.140 --> 01:58:13.779 Judy brought up, that automatically turns me off on anything 2135 01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:16.140 that they've got to say on any subject. 2136 01:58:17.359 --> 01:58:20.350 And I felt bad when that happened with Rusty Shackelford 2137 01:58:20.529 --> 01:58:26.489 because he was fairly knowledgeable, I thought. And even weirder is, 2138 01:58:26.569 --> 01:58:29.159 you know, I brought up somebody asked me about Robert Groton. 2139 01:58:29.220 --> 01:58:32.220 I think somebody asked me about Robert Groton recently on 2140 01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:34.439 one of the very few places I'm willing to talk 2141 01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:37.699 to at this point. And I went, yeah, the problem 2142 01:58:37.739 --> 01:58:41.609 with Bob is that his supports anything that gets attention 2143 01:58:42.489 --> 01:58:44.909 and he doesn't care about it, whether it's valid or not. 2144 01:58:45.369 --> 01:58:47.510 Well, you said that on here. We discussed it. It 2145 01:58:47.529 --> 01:58:48.140 was last week. 2146 01:58:48.340 --> 01:58:50.319 Well, I said it on here, but I know I 2147 01:58:50.340 --> 01:58:52.159 said it before. Yeah, but I know I said it 2148 01:58:52.220 --> 01:58:56.479 on somebody else's podcast, too. But the point is, a. 2149 01:58:56.520 --> 01:58:58.260 Lot of the old ones are like that. They'll do 2150 01:58:58.319 --> 01:59:00.939 anything that'll get their name out there. Yeah. You know, 2151 01:59:00.960 --> 01:59:02.739 they're at the end. I mean, and there's so many 2152 01:59:02.800 --> 01:59:04.779 of them now that are passing away. There's not a 2153 01:59:04.819 --> 01:59:07.119 lot of the old. Right. 2154 01:59:07.239 --> 01:59:10.050 They have thinned out quite a bit. But the way 2155 01:59:10.289 --> 01:59:13.390 Bob Bob is not necessarily about getting his name out there. 2156 01:59:14.279 --> 01:59:16.180 I mean, he loves to do that. Don't don't get 2157 01:59:16.220 --> 01:59:20.239 me wrong, but he's willing to support anything that gets 2158 01:59:20.279 --> 01:59:25.689 attention for the case. Seriously, the only thing he won't 2159 01:59:25.770 --> 01:59:28.949 support that gets attention for the case is the Zapruder 2160 01:59:28.970 --> 01:59:32.890 film is faked. That's the only thing he will not support. 2161 01:59:32.989 --> 01:59:36.329 Other than that, if you don't attack, you know, basically 2162 01:59:36.369 --> 01:59:40.270 what he feels as though is his legacy. He supports it, sadly. 2163 01:59:40.390 --> 01:59:41.630 And I respect his work. 2164 01:59:41.670 --> 01:59:44.550 Costello's work. You know, we mentioned it earlier when he 2165 01:59:44.710 --> 01:59:47.670 is his Web site. The Web page is still out 2166 01:59:47.710 --> 01:59:50.670 there with all the frames from the Zapruder film. Yes. 2167 01:59:51.010 --> 01:59:53.529 You look at what. But look at the title of 2168 01:59:53.609 --> 01:59:57.619 that page. Where is it? Assassination Science, which is Fetzer. Right. 2169 01:59:58.159 --> 01:59:59.239 No, no. Sadly. 2170 01:59:59.520 --> 01:59:59.720 Yeah. 2171 01:59:59.760 --> 01:59:59.899 No. 2172 01:59:59.979 --> 02:00:00.539 Sadly. 2173 02:00:00.640 --> 02:00:00.859 Look. 2174 02:00:01.159 --> 02:00:05.039 And there was some good. I'm going to regret saying this, 2175 02:00:05.300 --> 02:00:07.760 but there was some good work in Assassination Science. 2176 02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:09.220 Yeah, there was. 2177 02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:13.970 And it's not Fetzer's work. He just, you know, collated 2178 02:00:14.010 --> 02:00:16.229 it and released it and signed off on it. 2179 02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:19.699 Well, that was his whole MO. Every book he's written 2180 02:00:19.760 --> 02:00:22.159 has been that. Oh, well, you know, he tried that 2181 02:00:22.199 --> 02:00:26.289 crap in Sandy Hook. Well, I've got seven Ph.D. professors 2182 02:00:26.329 --> 02:00:29.630 that have submitted information to this, so it's got to 2183 02:00:29.670 --> 02:00:30.170 be true. 2184 02:00:30.369 --> 02:00:30.569 Right. 2185 02:00:30.750 --> 02:00:33.770 It's like, dude, you know, you burned that bridge a 2186 02:00:33.829 --> 02:00:36.439 long time ago. Nobody takes your word for nothing. Right. 2187 02:00:36.659 --> 02:00:38.680 I mean, when he was supposed to be just a guy, 2188 02:00:38.699 --> 02:00:41.319 you know, putting the information together like it was an 2189 02:00:41.380 --> 02:00:44.060 academic journal. I'm just asking questions. 2190 02:00:44.119 --> 02:00:44.279 Right. 2191 02:00:44.899 --> 02:00:47.300 Which it's South Park. You ought to look at that. Hey, 2192 02:00:47.340 --> 02:00:52.670 I'm just asking questions. Anyways, the thing is that like 2193 02:00:53.569 --> 02:00:54.869 there was some validity to that. 2194 02:00:55.909 --> 02:00:56.350 There was. 2195 02:00:56.670 --> 02:00:57.130 I owned more. 2196 02:00:57.170 --> 02:00:58.449 Was it Mantic? Yeah. 2197 02:00:59.029 --> 02:00:59.390 Mantic. 2198 02:00:59.430 --> 02:01:00.510 Mantic did some good work. 2199 02:01:00.689 --> 02:01:02.380 Mantic has done some great work. 2200 02:01:02.529 --> 02:01:02.770 Right. 2201 02:01:02.939 --> 02:01:05.699 I mean, you know, and again, and I've told him personally, look, 2202 02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:07.880 I think you're wrong about a couple of things, but damn, 2203 02:01:08.020 --> 02:01:10.300 this is great. This piece is great. This is unique. 2204 02:01:11.060 -->

02:01:13.739 Mantic did a lot of good stuff. And Aguilar is 2205 02:01:13.819 --> 02:01:17.789 also another good guy. But these guys were originally printed 2206 02:01:18.050 --> 02:01:20.710 with Assassination Science. And then later on, he had people 2207 02:01:20.770 --> 02:01:23.050 in what was that murder in Dealey Plaza was named 2208 02:01:23.109 --> 02:01:27.149 another book. And both of them were, you know, these 2209 02:01:27.250 --> 02:01:32.350 compilations of other people's work. And they were good. So, 2210 02:01:32.449 --> 02:01:34.539 you know, I give credit to Jim where it belongs. 2211 02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:39.090 And he deserves credit for that stuff. But he went 2212 02:01:39.350 --> 02:01:42.489 way the hell off the rails. I mean, you know, 2213 02:01:42.909 --> 02:01:45.189 the night that I got him on Ground Zero and 2214 02:01:45.210 --> 02:01:49.569 he started screaming about the Jews was just the worst. 2215 02:01:49.829 --> 02:01:53.949 I mean, Holocaust denial and all that, just wide open 2216 02:01:54.170 --> 02:01:57.789 on national radio. And I'm like, Jesus Christ, why did 2217 02:01:57.829 --> 02:02:01.000 you do that? And I told the producer, you've got 2218 02:02:01.020 --> 02:02:05.619 to keep him on the topic. Because if he veers away, 2219 02:02:05.640 --> 02:02:08.319 you're going to have a problem, you know, because what 2220 02:02:08.359 --> 02:02:12.449 they wanted is somebody to explain why conspiracy theory is logical. 2221 02:02:13.390 --> 02:02:15.210 And the sad thing is, I said, look, I can 2222 02:02:15.250 --> 02:02:18.470 do that. I can sit there and explain it and 2223 02:02:18.510 --> 02:02:21.569 give you a philosophical basis for it. And what is 2224 02:02:21.670 --> 02:02:24.890 logical in human socialization? I can give you, you know, 2225 02:02:25.369 --> 02:02:29.600 a sociological point of view. I don't have a degree. Well, 2226 02:02:29.619 --> 02:02:35.390 who does have a degree? Well, Fetzer. I literally that 2227 02:02:35.430 --> 02:02:37.510 that's what happened. They were getting a lot of their 2228 02:02:37.529 --> 02:02:40.720 guests from me up to that point that they would 2229 02:02:40.760 --> 02:02:42.729 come to me. We need a guy who can talk 2230 02:02:42.760 --> 02:02:45.899 about this. All right. Well, I know this particular military 2231 02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:48.619 intelligence person. I know this former CIA guy. I know 2232 02:02:48.640 --> 02:02:51.880 this journalist, whatever. I mean, I got Satalia on there 2233 02:02:51.899 --> 02:02:53.600 and a bunch of other guys. You know what I mean? 2234 02:02:55.859 --> 02:03:00.579 There was a guy on 9-11. I forget. He did 2235 02:03:00.619 --> 02:03:02.640 the short film. This is an orange. 2236 02:03:03.300 --> 02:03:03.399 Hmm. 2237 02:03:04.470 --> 02:03:06.430 I cannot think of his damn name. Let me look 2238 02:03:06.609 --> 02:03:10.489 it up. Anyway, when I put Fetzer's, the definition of 2239 02:03:10.649 --> 02:03:16.170 Fetzering in the Urban Dictionary, I had three points for 2240 02:03:16.189 --> 02:03:21.140 the definition. And the second one was, I think, therefore 2241 02:03:21.260 --> 02:03:26.920 I am. I think you're wrong, therefore you are. And 2242 02:03:27.220 --> 02:03:30.520 this guy made the comment out of the blue. leaves 2243 02:03:30.579 --> 02:03:34.199 a comment, your second point is dead on when it 2244 02:03:34.239 --> 02:03:35.100 comes to Fetzer. 2245 02:03:35.239 --> 02:03:39.260 Yeah. Was it you that coined the phrase Fetzering the Rubicon? 2246 02:03:39.359 --> 02:03:39.850 Was that you? 2247 02:03:40.850 --> 02:03:44.510 No, no. Fetzering had been around. I think the guy 2248 02:03:44.529 --> 02:03:49.050 that came up with it, Greg, what the hell is 2249 02:03:49.109 --> 02:03:52.409 his name? He was one of Fetzer's buddies. that eventually 2250 02:03:52.449 --> 02:03:56.130 they parted ways on. He was a real estate guy. Greg, 2251 02:03:56.430 --> 02:03:58.510 he's the one that claims that he saw a different 2252 02:03:58.550 --> 02:04:03.050 version of the Zapruder film. He can't say where, and 2253 02:04:03.069 --> 02:04:05.550 he can't say how, but he saw it. 2254 02:04:05.829 --> 02:04:06.850 Right, right, right. 2255 02:04:06.869 --> 02:04:08.750 And I've always wanted to question him on that. I 2256 02:04:08.789 --> 02:04:10.029 can't think of his damn name. 2257 02:04:11.029 --> 02:04:13.329 I've been through that with the guy from Australia who 2258 02:04:13.430 --> 02:04:17.220 said that, but I'm not going to get into it, but... Anyways, 2259 02:04:18.539 --> 02:04:21.539 because I've seen a different version of the Zapruder film also, 2260 02:04:22.600 --> 02:04:25.300 but not with the stop in it and all this 2261 02:04:25.359 --> 02:04:29.800 other nonsense they keep talking about. I've just seen, you know, 2262 02:04:30.180 --> 02:04:34.800 the rest of the film, which apparently nobody else has seen. 2263 02:04:34.859 --> 02:04:37.859 And I don't know why, but there were scenes on there. 2264 02:04:38.119 --> 02:04:41.930 And I also, you know, I described stuff to, of course, 2265 02:04:41.970 --> 02:04:44.750 I described stuff to Gail Nix Jackson that she was 2266 02:04:44.810 --> 02:04:47.539 shocked at, too. Where I said, yeah, well, what was 2267 02:04:47.579 --> 02:04:49.659 going on with this? Because there was a cheerleader in 2268 02:04:49.680 --> 02:04:52.739 this outfit and blah, blah, blah. And she goes, holy crap, 2269 02:04:52.760 --> 02:04:54.600 that's the rest of it. And I said, yeah, right. 2270 02:04:54.689 --> 02:04:58.329 I've seen the whole thing. You know, because he had 2271 02:04:58.449 --> 02:05:03.430 other pieces of home movies on there. You know, Orville Nix. 2272 02:05:05.390 --> 02:05:07.409 He would just film little pieces of this and that. 2273 02:05:07.449 --> 02:05:10.250 And the president just happened to be one thing that 2274 02:05:10.289 --> 02:05:14.949 was on that

particular, you know, eight millimeter, what became 2275 02:05:14.970 --> 02:05:17.119 an eight millimeter strip. Yeah. 2276 02:05:17.500 --> 02:05:17.840 Anyways. 2277 02:05:18.899 --> 02:05:20.760 So let's get back to Jimmy because you know what? 2278 02:05:21.260 --> 02:05:24.119 We're at 11 minutes after. And I do want to 2279 02:05:24.159 --> 02:05:26.640 give Jimmy at the very least the ability to close 2280 02:05:26.680 --> 02:05:28.119 it out with, you know, his thought for the week 2281 02:05:29.239 --> 02:05:31.800 and also hear from you and anybody else who joins 2282 02:05:31.880 --> 02:05:33.739 in last minute. I will put you live on the 2283 02:05:33.819 --> 02:05:36.359 air and see what you got to say. So, you know, 2284 02:05:36.659 --> 02:05:39.100 here's one of those opportunities to ask me if I've 2285 02:05:39.180 --> 02:05:43.819 self-flated or whatever. Which, you know, I answered that, I thought, 2286 02:05:43.859 --> 02:05:47.270 pretty straight. But I got a critique about that. Like, oh, 2287 02:05:47.289 --> 02:05:50.810 you didn't really want to answer his question. My memory 2288 02:05:50.850 --> 02:05:53.890 tells me I answered it pretty directly and quickly and calmly. 2289 02:05:54.649 --> 02:05:57.689 When the guy asked me if I could. Told him 2290 02:05:57.750 --> 02:06:01.859 I wasn't capable. I did not have that ability. I 2291 02:06:01.899 --> 02:06:05.220 thought I answered that pretty honestly and quickly. But maybe 2292 02:06:05.260 --> 02:06:07.659 that's not satisfactory to you. And if you need to, 2293 02:06:07.840 --> 02:06:11.989 use your own imagination. Anyways. You know who I'm talking 2294 02:06:12.029 --> 02:06:13.960 to if you're listening, and you're probably hearing this in 2295 02:06:13.979 --> 02:06:19.300 podcast form anyway. But anybody wants to call in, 319-527-5016, 319-527-5016. 2296 02:06:19.319 --> 02:06:26.159 And if not, we'll hear from Jimmy James, and that'll 2297 02:06:26.180 --> 02:06:30.619 be the end of this. Well, after we hear from BP, too. Jimmy, 2298 02:06:32.060 --> 02:06:33.840 so we went over a couple other things, but if 2299 02:06:33.859 --> 02:06:35.539 you've got something else you want to throw in here 2300 02:06:35.560 --> 02:06:37.899 at the end or whatever, it's all you, man. The 2301 02:06:37.920 --> 02:06:38.479 floor is yours. 2302 02:06:41.260 --> 02:06:45.479 Yeah, a guy you're thinking of. He beats Greg Berman. 2303 02:06:47.170 --> 02:06:48.109 Burnham, yeah. 2304 02:06:48.989 --> 02:06:52.930 Yep. That's him. 2305 02:06:54.090 --> 02:07:00.260 As far as Jim Fetzer goes, man, he's got one 2306 02:07:00.409 --> 02:07:05.399 stupid interview I want. I looked, sure enough, checked all 2307 02:07:05.439 --> 02:07:06.819 the AI. I knew it. 2308 02:07:06.960 --> 02:07:07.359 A.J. 2309 02:07:07.420 --> 02:07:11.899 Dowson died about four or five years ago. And the 2310 02:07:12.020 --> 02:07:16.069 only single interview I ever seen of him talking about 2311 02:07:19.069 --> 02:07:24.750 Larry Lawrence Howard was on that crazy show of Fetcher's. 2312 02:07:25.609 --> 02:07:26.970 What, The Real Deal or whatever? 2313 02:07:26.989 --> 02:07:29.270 Yeah. 2314 02:07:33.289 --> 02:07:36.550 That archive exists somewhere, but I can't find it anymore. 2315 02:07:36.810 --> 02:07:41.279 It used to be... On, what do you call it? 2316 02:07:41.279 --> 02:07:44.960 You know, the blog site with the orange bee? 2317 02:07:46.659 --> 02:07:46.920 Right? 2318 02:07:47.140 --> 02:07:48.439 It used to be on there. 2319 02:07:49.960 --> 02:07:55.310 They have some episodes, but I couldn't find that one. 2320 02:07:55.430 --> 02:07:59.210 I don't know. Maybe the Wayback Machine or something. 2321 02:07:59.229 --> 02:07:59.850 Nothing. 2322 02:08:00.060 --> 02:08:03.579 Hey, that's always a possibility. People find stuff on me 2323 02:08:03.619 --> 02:08:07.260 in there I'm amazed at. So they send it to 2324 02:08:07.300 --> 02:08:08.539 me every once in a while. I'm like, wow, I 2325 02:08:08.579 --> 02:08:10.079 didn't know that was in the Wayback Machine. 2326 02:08:11.100 --> 02:08:12.140 Anthony Lawson. 2327 02:08:17.560 --> 02:08:18.350 So go ahead, Jimmy. 2328 02:08:18.770 --> 02:08:24.479 Well, there's Well, everyone, have a good week. Maybe I'll 2329 02:08:24.539 --> 02:08:26.920 tell you the story next week of the guy that 2330 02:08:26.960 --> 02:08:34.319 washed up on shore around 1900 who all he could 2331 02:08:34.359 --> 02:08:36.939 remember is that his name was John F. 2332 02:08:37.060 --> 02:08:40.680 Kennedy. In 1900? 2333 02:08:40.680 --> 02:08:40.779 In 1900? 2334 02:08:40.770 --> 02:08:40.829 1900. 2335 02:08:40.819 --> 02:08:41.039 Nice! 2336 02:08:41.100 --> 02:08:41.479 I'm going to. 2337 02:08:53.449 --> 02:08:57.010 It'd be interesting anyway to look at. I mean, just 2338 02:08:57.090 --> 02:08:58.010 when you think you've. 2339 02:08:57.890 --> 02:09:02.109 Heard it all. You know, Jimmy, you know what? Every 2340 02:09:02.140 --> 02:09:05.000 time I hear a certain podcast, like every once in 2341 02:09:05.020 --> 02:09:07.159 a while, somebody does a podcast on this one guy 2342 02:09:07.199 --> 02:09:09.539 who showed up one day in like Japan, I think 2343 02:09:09.600 --> 02:09:13.939 it was, or somewhere where he was like allegedly from 2344 02:09:14.000 --> 02:09:19.069 a country that didn't exist and then disappeared. That dude, 2345 02:09:19.149 --> 02:09:22.350 every time he comes up, I think of you. And 2346 02:09:22.409 --> 02:09:24.770 I don't know why that is. Not because you're that 2347 02:09:24.810 --> 02:09:27.100 guy or anything. But I always think of you because 2348 02:09:27.119 --> 02:09:29.039 it's like that would be one of the things that Jimmy, 2349 02:09:29.119 --> 02:09:32.260 I'm surprised, hasn't gotten into. But I thank you for 2350 02:09:32.319 --> 02:09:35.270 calling in, man. I appreciate you. And again, Jimmy is 2351 02:09:35.350 --> 02:09:38.430 one of those

three guys that I said before actually 2352 02:09:38.489 --> 02:09:42.520 supports the damn show. So, you know, remember, we are 2353 02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:44.699 listener supported and all that good stuff. And who knows? 2354 02:09:45.180 --> 02:09:48.739 Maybe one day I'll do a show on that one 2355 02:09:48.819 --> 02:09:51.739 particular body of water that keeps washing up, you know, 2356 02:09:52.600 --> 02:09:57.020 single shoes that still have feet in them. Not the 2357 02:09:57.060 --> 02:09:59.270 rest of the body, just a foot in a damn 2358 02:09:59.310 --> 02:10:03.710 shoe that keeps happening and the explanation behind it. Maybe 2359 02:10:03.729 --> 02:10:06.170 I'll do a podcast on that in the coming weeks. 2360 02:10:06.569 --> 02:10:11.739 We shall see. Uh, maybe not be beat. Uh, I'll 2361 02:10:11.760 --> 02:10:12.979 give you the final words. 2362 02:10:15.090 --> 02:10:17.329 Well, um, just to let everybody know before we go 2363 02:10:17.369 --> 02:10:19.350 off the air, the brewers are up two to one 2364 02:10:20.010 --> 02:10:20.789 top of the seven. 2365 02:10:21.569 --> 02:10:24.109 Oh, okay. You know what? I forgot to check if 2366 02:10:24.149 --> 02:10:26.689 Mizorowski is pitching too. Let me just check that. But 2367 02:10:26.750 --> 02:10:28.069 while you're saying whatever else you. 2368 02:10:28.029 --> 02:10:31.060 Want to, um, Oh, and I did do a check, uh, 2369 02:10:31.180 --> 02:10:38.060 my lottery ticket girl, uh, slight celebrities. He's got 2.1 2370 02:10:38.060 --> 02:10:39.779 million followers on Instagram. 2371 02:10:40.819 --> 02:10:46.439 Yeah, that's... I sent you a link. That's cool. That's 2372 02:10:46.460 --> 02:10:48.819 like a mild celebrity, though. That's not like, you know, 2373 02:10:49.279 --> 02:10:51.859 that's not like Tom Cruise, you know what I'm saying, 2374 02:10:51.899 --> 02:10:56.449 or something crazy. It's not like worldwide huge megastar. It's 2375 02:10:56.470 --> 02:10:58.069 just a celebrity, right? 2376 02:10:59.090 --> 02:10:59.329 Right. 2377 02:10:59.649 --> 02:11:02.670 Yeah, okay. Cool enough. You know. 2378 02:11:03.949 --> 02:11:06.869 Other than that, let's see. We got a bunch of 2379 02:11:06.890 --> 02:11:09.329 yard work coming up next week. We're going to have 2380 02:11:09.369 --> 02:11:12.939 beautiful weather, 70s every day with a slight breeze. I'm 2381 02:11:13.020 --> 02:11:15.939 enjoying it. I'm going to make the most of it 2382 02:11:17.340 --> 02:11:19.760 and see how much we can get done. Other than that, 2383 02:11:19.899 --> 02:11:23.380 everybody go to ocelli.com, hit the donate button. Every little 2384 02:11:23.399 --> 02:11:28.159 bit helps. Appreciate Danny and Jimmy calling in. Support your 2385 02:11:28.189 --> 02:11:33.350 local food bank. And, you know, we're starting to... turn 2386 02:11:33.390 --> 02:11:36.670 towards the holidays. So I hope people can make the 2387 02:11:36.710 --> 02:11:38.729 best of them coming up. We've got Halloween, then we've 2388 02:11:38.750 --> 02:11:41.930 got Thanksgiving, then we've got Christmas and Kwanzaa and all 2389 02:11:41.970 --> 02:11:44.529 the other things thrown in there. So it's going to 2390 02:11:44.550 --> 02:11:48.130 start getting hectic here in the next month. Just keep 2391 02:11:48.149 --> 02:11:50.470 your peace, find a way to deal with your stress 2392 02:11:51.109 --> 02:11:53.270 so you don't take half your family out on Thanksgiving. 2393 02:11:54.489 --> 02:11:57.850 Well, there you have it. Also, just a really quick note, 2394 02:11:57.979 --> 02:12:03.159 Jacob Mizorowski is indeed the starting pitcher for you know, 2395 02:12:04.619 --> 02:12:09.680 for the Brewers, excuse me, tonight. And if I were 2396 02:12:09.720 --> 02:12:12.180 you and you were out there getting collectible cards, his 2397 02:12:12.239 --> 02:12:15.399 rookie card is still available and going up in price 2398 02:12:15.539 --> 02:12:19.420 probably as I speak. And he was the starting pitcher, 2399 02:12:19.579 --> 02:12:21.279 and you said currently they're winning, right? 2400 02:12:22.520 --> 02:12:26.939 Yeah, they're up 2-1 right now. The guy pitching for– 2401 02:12:28.880 --> 02:12:32.979 The Brewers, tall, skinny black guy with dreads about halfway 2402 02:12:33.020 --> 02:12:35.060 to his shoulders. I don't know his name. They never 2403 02:12:35.079 --> 02:12:38.399 show the back of him. They show him doing his 2404 02:12:38.439 --> 02:12:41.840 windup from the front. Then they switch cameras. So I 2405 02:12:41.880 --> 02:12:43.140 haven't been able to see the name on the back. 2406 02:12:43.159 --> 02:12:48.829 I see. Seventh inning, yeah, he'll probably go another inning, 2407 02:12:48.909 --> 02:12:50.449 maybe an inning and a half, and then they'll bring 2408 02:12:50.470 --> 02:12:50.909 in a closer. 2409 02:12:51.189 --> 02:12:54.930 Yeah, but the starter was not going to the seventh 2410 02:12:54.970 --> 02:12:59.890 inning usually. And Mizorowski was the starter, apparently, according to 2411 02:13:00.529 --> 02:13:06.529 the Google AI tonight. But rookie pitcher only like a 2412 02:13:06.590 --> 02:13:09.729 year ago. And I think technically he might still be 2413 02:13:09.750 --> 02:13:13.109 in his rookie season, but his rookie card is like 2025. 2414 02:13:13.109 --> 02:13:17.609 So it's still available, many versions of it and all that. 2415 02:13:17.630 --> 02:13:19.189 And I would get a good one and hang on 2416 02:13:19.229 --> 02:13:24.199 to it because the kid is a fireballer, in fact. Uh, 2417 02:13:24.319 --> 02:13:27.979 he's already hit the gun at, uh, what is it? 2418 02:13:27.960 --> 02:13:35.850 105 or 110. Uh, which is really scary speed. Um, so, 2419 02:13:36.029 --> 02:13:38.270 you know, he's a fireballer and if he doesn't blow 2420 02:13:38.390 --> 02:13:40.710 out his arm and if they, you know, if they 2421 02:13:40.750 --> 02:13:43.149 can successfully put them back together, cause now the Tommy 2422 02:13:43.170 --> 02:13:47.789 John surgery is common. Uh, you know, the kid is 2423 02:13:47.829 --> 02:13:51.069 going to be good just saying. And so far he's 2424 02:13:51.229 --> 02:13:55.020 a young star. So, Jacob Mizorowski started the game, and 2425 02:13:55.060 --> 02:13:56.840 if they win, he might be the winning pitcher. I 2426 02:13:56.859 --> 02:13:58.960 don't know who the pitcher of record is at the moment, 2427 02:13:59.079 --> 02:14:00.699 but if nobody scores on the other side. 2428 02:14:00.720 --> 02:14:02.319 Well, I just did a check to see how many 2429 02:14:02.420 --> 02:14:04.119 innings he pitched, and it won't tell me. 2430 02:14:04.979 --> 02:14:07.779 Ah, okay. I don't know. 2431 02:14:07.800 --> 02:14:08.180 Bastards. 2432 02:14:08.520 --> 02:14:11.079 But that's what it says, and that's what I know 2433 02:14:11.140 --> 02:14:13.060 so far, and I'll try and find out the rest 2434 02:14:13.159 --> 02:14:14.020 after we're done. Wait a second. 2435 02:14:14.060 --> 02:14:16.050 Wait a second. Let me see who's pitching now. Yeah. 2436 02:14:17.020 --> 02:14:22.829 Guy with a beard. Let's see if they show us back. 2437 02:14:23.420 --> 02:14:24.260 Might have a veteran. 2438 02:14:24.460 --> 02:14:25.520 Ashby Hicks. 2439 02:14:26.460 --> 02:14:31.260 Yeah, okay. That, I think, is still another young guy, 2440 02:14:31.279 --> 02:14:35.699 but with the beard. But, yeah, there's a lot of 2441 02:14:35.720 --> 02:14:39.920 young players on the Brewers. So, there you go. But 2442 02:14:39.979 --> 02:14:42.840 Jacob Mizorowski would not be a bad rookie card to grab, 2443 02:14:42.899 --> 02:14:47.659 just telling you. I've got a few myself. Just saying. 2444 02:14:47.939 --> 02:14:50.460 And hopefully I'll be selling baseball cards soon. I'm just 2445 02:14:50.520 --> 02:14:53.449 waiting to get one thing together. I don't know why, 2446 02:14:53.489 --> 02:14:56.689 but they lost my stupid envelopes that I needed in 2447 02:14:56.729 --> 02:14:58.800 order to start shipping stuff out. And I'll need that 2448 02:14:58.819 --> 02:15:00.659 to be ready because I hope to sell like 100 2449 02:15:00.659 --> 02:15:04.989 cards at least on my first stream. But anyways, we'll 2450 02:15:05.010 --> 02:15:08.130 see how that goes. And we'll keep doing this every Friday. 2451 02:15:08.210 --> 02:15:10.210 And you can join us next time. Keep the number 2452 02:15:10.250 --> 02:15:16.010 around 319-527-5016, a final check of the board. And even 2453 02:15:16.069 --> 02:15:18.930 Jimmy's hung up. So you know what that means. We 2454 02:15:18.970 --> 02:15:22.529 got to go. And, in fact, I'll give you guys 2455 02:15:23.149 --> 02:15:25.069 the closeout signal on the phone lines. 2456 02:15:25.189 --> 02:15:25.689 Goodbye. 2457 02:15:26.130 --> 02:15:29.609 That's what it sounds like. And, hey, I am here. 2458 02:15:39.250 --> 02:15:39.550 We'll be 2459 02:15:42.060 --> 02:15:57.840 Right back.