Full Transcript for NYCC ‘24 INTERVIEW-A-THON: Sweeney Boo & Soo Lee

and Sue on the show. 00:02:13.176 --> 00:02:18.258 As we talk about in this conversation, they are best friends in real life, but also they are. 00:02:18.258 --> 00:02:30.364 And again, as we say in the conversation, two of the more two of the bigger rising stars in the, know, in the sort of the comic sphere, know, Sweeney's been on Harley Quinn for quite a while and Sue has been working in the comic sphere for a while. 00:02:30.364 --> 00:02:38.127 But it feels like recently they both have been just sort of doing this and you guys can't see me because this is a audio medium, but the rising, right? 00:02:38.127 --> 00:02:43.950 So, and it's just great that they're, you know, not only again, best friends, but they're both sort of going on the same trajectory upward. 00:02:43.950 --> 00:02:47.354 I love the dynamic, the dynamic between those two. 00:02:47.354 --> 00:02:50.194 is such, and you can hear it during the conversation. 00:02:50.194 --> 00:02:53.076 Like it is, it's like talking to us. 00:02:53.176 --> 00:02:54.078 Yeah. 00:02:54.078 --> 00:03:00.080 Two shorter, much more creative people, much more talented people than we are. 00:03:01.048 --> 00:03:07.706 We'll get in that conversation with Sweeney and Sue talking about Harley Quinn and Cheetar and over my dead body and Carmilla, the first vampire. 00:03:07.706 --> 00:03:16.098 But before we get there, Aaron, again, interview with on, this is the second day or gas gas fest of our interview with on our yearly. 00:03:18.509 --> 00:03:25.110 our yearly sort of celebratory week of interviews where we bring on creators every single day of New York Comic Con. 00:03:25.110 --> 00:03:27.530 If you're listening to this right now, go back one day. 00:03:27.530 --> 00:03:35.389 We just spoke with the creator, the writer and artist of Zawa and the Belly of the Beast, Michael Dianos, one of our, again, one of our favorite people in the comic realm. 00:03:35.389 --> 00:03:37.199 Such a sweet person. 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:38.370 Love him so much. 00:03:38.370 --> 00:03:40.550 Such a sweet person. 00:03:40.550 --> 00:03:42.169 Put us on the back of that Zawa book too. 00:03:42.169 --> 00:03:44.030 Thanks for the pull quote there, Michael. 00:03:44.030 --> 00:03:44.650 We appreciate it. 00:03:44.650 --> 00:03:45.539 And it was a great conversation. 00:03:45.539 --> 00:03:47.533 Hopefully everybody go and check that out. 00:03:47.533 --> 00:03:51.614 Again today Sweeney and Sue, but tomorrow we'll be talking to Jeff Lemire. 00:03:51.614 --> 00:04:02.014 So if you're a lot of great creators in the pipeline waiting for this interview, a thon or guest fest, Aaron, tell the people how they can support the show. 00:04:02.014 --> 00:04:07.623 Well, if you want to support the Oblivion Bar podcast, consider checking out our Patreon for your support. 00:04:07.623 --> 00:04:15.960 You can gain access to bonus episode each week called the grid grid grid grid grid a behind the scenes look at how we prepare each 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Joining us today are two of the most exciting double threat comic creators working today. 00:04:58.244 --> 00:05:13.507 One is the comic creator behind titles like Dynamite's Cruella De Vil mini-series with artist Mariana Puglia, the ongoing Harley Quinn series with writer Teenie Howard, Eat and Love Yourself, and the witchy OGN Over My Dead Body. 00:05:13.507 --> 00:05:28.065 The other is the comic creator of titles like, speaking of Disney's villains, Dynamite's Maleficent, Thundercats' Chitara with artist Dominico Carbone and the queer vampire murder mystery, Carmilla, the first vampire with writer Amy Chu. 00:05:28.086 --> 00:05:38.514 It is our pleasure to welcome the founding members of what we have called the Boo Sue crew, Sweeney Boo and Sue Lee onto the Oblivion Bar podcast. 00:05:38.514 --> 00:05:39.165 Woo. 00:05:39.165 --> 00:05:40.095 Yeah. 00:05:40.095 --> 00:05:41.896 Hi. 00:05:41.916 --> 00:05:43.117 Boo Sue crew. 00:05:43.117 --> 00:05:44.218 Welcome. 00:05:44.637 --> 00:05:45.968 Thanks for having us on. 00:05:45.968 --> 00:05:47.629 Did we create that? 00:05:47.629 --> 00:05:49.110 Or have you guys had that before? 00:05:49.110 --> 00:05:50.291 Have you heard that? 00:05:50.894 --> 00:05:58.000 No, but I feel like the gang that we hang out with Tyler and everyone like I feel like they came up with something once but I forgot what it was. 00:05:58.000 --> 00:05:59.641 I don't remember. 00:05:59.961 --> 00:06:02.244 Can we coin the boo-suker then? 00:06:02.853 --> 00:06:04.665 I'm already making shirts. 00:06:04.665 --> 00:06:06.826 Yeah, they're already on order. 00:06:07.168 --> 00:06:09.230 I want a cut of that. 00:06:09.230 --> 00:06:10.670 Okay, I bought a cricket. 00:06:10.670 --> 00:06:11.512 I bought a cricket. 00:06:11.512 --> 00:06:12.992 making them right now. 00:06:14.233 --> 00:06:16.745 Well, thank you both so much for being here on the Oblivion Bar podcast. 00:06:16.745 --> 00:06:19.422 Thank you for joining us for our 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day two. 00:06:19.422 --> 00:06:20.903 And Sweeney, I'm gonna start with you here. 00:06:20.903 --> 00:06:39.711 So you recently announced on your sub stack that your run on Harley Quinn will be officially ending with issue 43, or it has ended officially as of this recording on September 25th, which sort of seems hard to believe because you two have been on Harley Quinn with, you know, it's been over two years, but it seems far longer than that somehow. 00:06:39.711 --> 00:06:47.822 So my first question for you is take us back to when you first were approached by DC for this opportunity and what were sort of your immediate thoughts? 00:06:47.822 --> 00:06:57.442 The first is that I remember when I got the emails like I don't have time but I have to do it because like you can't say no to Harley Quinn. 00:06:57.442 --> 00:07:01.101 And then immediately it's like, can I swear? 00:07:01.322 --> 00:07:02.141 Yeah, please. 00:07:02.141 --> 00:07:03.201 Absolutely. 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:05.482 Please swear. 00:07:05.682 --> 00:07:08.562 I don't know how to talk without swearing. 00:07:08.562 --> 00:07:12.589 But immediately it was like, holy shit, how am I going to do that? 00:07:12.589 --> 00:07:19.723 because, and it still feels like a, I don't know, I guess I learned this week that a fever dream is not actually like a negative thing. 00:07:19.723 --> 00:07:22.815 I thought it was like kind of like a trippy, I don't know. 00:07:22.815 --> 00:07:33.882 But I feel like this whole bit of like working on Harley is like, I remember it, but I don't, because it's like, it was just like, not an out of body experience for two years, but kind of. 00:07:34.862 --> 00:07:37.223 But yeah, it was mind blowing. 00:07:37.223 --> 00:07:40.245 It's been mind blowing the whole way and. 00:07:40.363 --> 00:07:46.228 You know, we knew we were going to end the beginning of this year and it's not bittersweet. 00:07:46.228 --> 00:07:48.949 Like not everyone gets to say that they work on Harley. 00:07:48.949 --> 00:07:50.490 So just really excited. 00:07:50.490 --> 00:07:50.831 Yeah. 00:07:50.831 --> 00:07:52.591 I remember when it was initially announced. 00:07:52.591 --> 00:07:58.196 just, was, I was so happy for you just, you know, knowing you from the comic sketch art and doing the cons and being friends. 00:07:58.196 --> 00:08:00.427 Obviously I was like, holy crap. 00:08:00.427 --> 00:08:02.509 So when he's on Harley Quinn, this is incredible. 00:08:02.509 --> 00:08:08.983 And, you know, Aaron and were talking a little bit before the actual recording and I'll, I'll sort of let him talk about this if he wants to, but you definitely left your mark. 00:08:08.983 --> 00:08:09.581 Definitely. 00:08:09.581 --> 00:08:11.422 from a visual standpoint for the character. 00:08:11.422 --> 00:08:16.721 think it's your look of Harley Quinn will go down in the annals of like one of more iconic looks. 00:08:16.721 --> 00:08:17.141 So. 00:08:17.141 --> 00:08:19.262 Don't know about that, but I appreciate it. 00:08:19.262 --> 00:08:19.862 It's very kind. 00:08:19.862 --> 00:08:20.622 It's not up to you. 00:08:20.622 --> 00:08:21.221 It's up to us. 00:08:21.221 --> 00:08:24.632 And we say, the fans, as fans of Harley Quinn, that's yeah. 00:08:24.632 --> 00:08:26.721 Chris and I were having a good conversation about that. 00:08:26.721 --> 00:08:31.901 There's it's, you know, we're going to talk about it a little bit more in the conversation, but there's just certain looks. 00:08:31.901 --> 00:08:35.006 There's certain feels about certain characters that. 00:08:35.006 --> 00:08:38.278 set like milestones in their development over the years. 00:08:38.278 --> 00:08:54.255 And honestly, like your representations of Harley Quinn now have been fun, mysterious, welcoming, but they've just set like a whole new bar for Harley as a character that I think a lot of people are going to remember for a very long time. 00:08:54.255 --> 00:09:02.889 She's not just this, you know, Batman, the animated series, Harley Quinn anymore, which is what she's been known for for so long, but she has like such a look now. 00:09:02.889 --> 00:09:07.683 And also we're You know, she's way different than the Margot Robbie Harley Quinn. 00:09:07.683 --> 00:09:11.865 She is her own new version and we love it. 00:09:11.865 --> 00:09:13.046 No, totally. 00:09:13.046 --> 00:09:20.749 like, I mean, like this, it's really sweet, but I feel like everyone before us like paved the way for our book. 00:09:20.749 --> 00:09:25.811 When we were at DragonCon, Tinia and I got to do a panel with like Jimmy and Amanda. 00:09:25.811 --> 00:09:32.333 you know, I feel like Harley, even Margot Robbie Harley, like Harley wouldn't be what it is without them. 00:09:32.481 --> 00:09:37.785 So it's been so many creators just like moving the character forward. 00:09:37.785 --> 00:09:42.307 And I'm really excited to see what's gonna happen with the next team, honestly. 00:09:42.328 --> 00:09:43.850 I think it's very exciting. 00:09:43.850 --> 00:09:44.450 Absolutely. 00:09:44.450 --> 00:09:51.225 And there's compelling argument to be made that no character has really evolved quite like Harley Quinn has in these last couple of years. 00:09:51.225 --> 00:09:57.789 And she is in some ways barely the same character that she was when Paul Dini and Bruce Tim created her for the animated series. 00:09:57.789 --> 00:10:07.355 When building your version, Sweeney, of Harley, Were there any character defining like North stars that you and Teenie looked towards during your run together? 00:10:07.355 --> 00:10:27.260 I mean, I feel like both of us were really, we really wanted her to be, you know, raw in terms of her mental health and her struggles and the fact that she deals with it in some kind of like humorous way to not be too vulnerable. 00:10:27.441 --> 00:10:37.831 so playing with like a very colorful setting around her and even her outfit and everything juxtaposed with everything she was

struggling with. 00:10:37.831 --> 00:10:46.833 I think I'm not going to, I don't want to put words in Tini's mouth, but I hope this is exactly what she also wanted to achieve. 00:10:47.394 --> 00:10:50.274 I think we did pretty good. 00:10:50.274 --> 00:10:54.336 We have a term here on the Bleevee and BarrePod when things go well like that. 00:10:54.736 --> 00:10:56.037 We say nailed it. 00:10:56.037 --> 00:10:56.817 Nailed it. 00:10:56.817 --> 00:10:57.267 Nailed it. 00:10:57.267 --> 00:11:00.196 Nailed it. 00:11:00.498 --> 00:11:06.863 Well, Sue, sort of transitioning over to you, I'll again, Erin, I were just talking about this before the recording here. 00:11:06.863 --> 00:11:20.192 What I really enjoy about what both you and Sweeney have done with your careers thus far is that not only are you guys playing in that IP sandbox with, you know, the Thundercats and the Disney villains and the DC universe, but you're also taking big swings with your career and works as well. 00:11:20.192 --> 00:11:25.495 You Sweeney, like we mentioned there in the intro, you released Over My Dead Body back in 2022. 00:11:25.495 --> 00:11:29.090 you know, Sue, you released two volumes of Carmilla, the first vampire. 00:11:29.090 --> 00:11:32.731 which is your retelling of the classic vampire tale with Amy Chu. 00:11:32.772 --> 00:11:34.852 The second volume actually just came out earlier this year. 00:11:34.852 --> 00:11:51.289 So I want to sort of set all this up with a synopsis of Carmilla, if I can, at the height of the Lunar New Year, an idealistic social worker turned detective when she discovers young homeless LGBTQ women are being murdered and no one, especially the police, seems to care. 00:11:51.289 --> 00:11:58.716 A series of clues points to her, I'm sorry, to Carmilla's, a mysterious nightclub in the heart of her neighborhood Chinatown. 00:11:58.861 --> 00:12:09.621 There she falls for the next likely target, landing her at the center of a real life horror story and face to face with illusions about herself, her life, and her hidden past. 00:12:09.662 --> 00:12:15.201 Now this book centers around many things, identity, culture, gender, sexuality. 00:12:15.302 --> 00:12:20.601 Were any of those themes more important to you, when you guys were creating and crafting the story? 00:12:20.682 --> 00:12:25.331 I think for me it was all of it, right? 00:12:25.331 --> 00:12:35.687 Like it's very rare that I or many people get to work on a story that relates to their own culture. 00:12:35.687 --> 00:12:43.552 know, like most of the times we're like remaking stories that fit like a mainstream, like audience and everything. 00:12:43.552 --> 00:12:50.767 And I think this was like a good time to actually be like, okay, let's focus on Asian culture, you know? 00:12:50.767 --> 00:13:02.440 And so like New York to town was very important for me to try to nail visually because like I grew up, know, visiting Chinatown and like being around Asian neighborhoods and stuff like that. 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:10.546 And I wanted to make sure that like that was the forefront, that this is like a story with Asian characters. 00:13:10.546 --> 00:13:15.620 It's about like Asian culture, but you know, we're not monoliths. 00:13:15.620 --> 00:13:19.283 like, you know, we have, we're just like everyone else, right? 00:13:19.283 --> 00:13:24.807 It's just telling a story like any other story just with Asian people, you know? 00:13:24.807 --> 00:13:35.086 So I wanted to make sure that I got as vibrant, know, closer as vibrant like of what Chinatown looks like to me and what it represents to me. 00:13:35.086 --> 00:13:36.985 Also just part of normal life for me. 00:13:36.985 --> 00:13:37.346 Right. 00:13:37.346 --> 00:13:40.625 So I just wanted to make sure that I could translate that. 00:13:40.625 --> 00:13:44.605 You mentioned, I think in one of your interviews that there are two Chinatowns in New York. 00:13:44.605 --> 00:13:50.235 Erin, did you know that being in New York now, I know you probably know this, but I had no idea that there were two Chinatowns in New York. 00:13:50.235 --> 00:13:51.826 I actually didn't. 00:13:51.826 --> 00:13:53.145 Where's the other one at? 00:13:53.145 --> 00:13:54.605 I live here. 00:13:54.605 --> 00:13:55.947 Are you living in the other one? 00:13:55.947 --> 00:13:58.105 Yeah, yeah, I live in the other one. 00:13:58.105 --> 00:13:59.490 All right. 00:13:59.490 --> 00:14:01.312 And they're like one of the oldest. 00:14:01.312 --> 00:14:03.474 Funny, I like went to Chinatown yesterday, too. 00:14:03.474 --> 00:14:09.539 And we were talking about like how old Chinatown is and what it means in like American history. 00:14:09.539 --> 00:14:19.513 But in New York, you know, the one in Manhattan is one of the oldest and like maybe one or two of the most original ones. 00:14:19.513 --> 00:14:27.126 think San Francisco might be the number one original, the OG Chinatown, but New York is like one of the oldest, if not the second one. 00:14:27.126 --> 00:14:30.109 And then it's like Chinatown, Koreatown. 00:14:30.109 --> 00:14:33.171 And that's also fairly, fairly old. 00:14:33.910 --> 00:14:36.952 So it's like, like they're both historical. 00:14:37.293 --> 00:14:38.323 it's in relation. 00:14:38.323 --> 00:14:38.624 Queens. 00:14:38.624 --> 00:14:38.844 Okay. 00:14:38.844 --> 00:14:39.134 Queens. 00:14:39.134 --> 00:14:39.354 Okay. 00:14:39.354 --> 00:14:39.841 Gotcha. 00:14:39.841 --> 00:14:40.375 All right. 00:14:40.375 --> 00:14:40.855 Okay. 00:14:40.855 --> 00:14:41.075 Yeah. 00:14:41.075 --> 00:14:48.956 I was actually telling, I was talking to Chris about recently my wife and I, went to Chinatown in San Francisco. 00:14:49.197 --> 00:14:53.580 And she's taken me near the one, cause we just moved to Brooklyn about six months ago. 00:14:53.580 --> 00:14:55.292 So I'm still learning about the city. 00:14:55.292 --> 00:14:58.543 I'm sure I'll learn about, you know, both Chinatowns. 00:14:58.725 -->

00:15:14.096 But yeah, was, cause as I was reading through Carmilla, I'm just like this, the way that it reads and the way that it feels and it looks, it feels like places when I visited Chinatown in San Francisco, it feels familiar. 00:15:14.350 --> 00:15:24.669 And so I enjoyed, like that was one of the things that kind of drew me into the story was it was the scenery and the feeling of it was built so like quickly and so smoothly. 00:15:24.669 --> 00:15:27.929 It's just an incredible read, just even from the beginning. 00:15:27.929 --> 00:15:28.679 Thank you. 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:34.559 I mean, that's like the biggest compliment I can get is because like I know New York and it of sounds like back of my hand. 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:39.970 Like if I didn't know it and if it didn't translate well, I would be very embarrassed of myself. 00:15:39.970 --> 00:15:40.330 Yeah. 00:15:40.330 --> 00:15:43.416 Well, the interesting finding the gate. 00:15:43.426 --> 00:15:47.729 Like that's one of the first things that she does when she gets to San Francisco is find the gate. 00:15:47.870 --> 00:15:49.841 And that's the first thing that my wife and I did. 00:15:49.841 --> 00:15:52.123 So it almost felt like our stories were paralleling. 00:15:52.123 --> 00:15:54.533 it was just, again, yeah, it was crazy. 00:15:54.615 --> 00:15:57.596 That, mean, Sweeney and I went to one in San Francisco too. 00:15:57.596 --> 00:15:59.861 And that was like an amusement park. 00:15:59.861 --> 00:16:04.341 I was like, my God, this place is like we done up, you know? 00:16:04.341 --> 00:16:06.663 Like this is what OG Chinatown looks like. 00:16:06.663 --> 00:16:07.664 It's so big. 00:16:07.664 --> 00:16:08.424 It wasn't ending. 00:16:08.424 --> 00:16:09.447 It's like. 00:16:09.447 --> 00:16:14.892 street after street where I feel like in any city that you go to, it's going to be like maybe a street or two. 00:16:14.892 --> 00:16:19.845 It's, you know, but now the San Francisco, China time was incredible. 00:16:19.845 --> 00:16:26.250 To go back to what you said just a moment ago, I think it's so important as you know, especially in the comic book, you know, landscape in the medium. 00:16:26.250 --> 00:16:29.855 It's important, I think, for creators to go through the landscape. 00:16:29.855 --> 00:16:32.134 you're if you're telling a story about New York, right. 00:16:32.134 --> 00:16:36.557 And I think for a lot of time, for a lot of stories, New York is like its own character, you know. 00:16:36.557 --> 00:16:38.337 So I think it's so important. 00:16:38.337 --> 00:16:40.339 that you actually go to these places and experience them. 00:16:40.339 --> 00:16:42.710 That way you can sort of infuse that into your work. 00:16:42.710 --> 00:16:47.952 And as Erin was saying, it's so evident in Carmilla especially that you're from there, you know? 00:16:47.952 --> 00:16:51.865 And it's, there's like a very deliberate effort to show the landscape. 00:16:51.865 --> 00:16:55.408 Again, as almost like New York is like a character within the story. 00:16:55.408 --> 00:16:55.998 Yeah. 00:16:55.998 --> 00:16:56.697 absolutely. 00:16:56.697 --> 00:16:58.308 That's why the colors were important too. 00:16:58.308 --> 00:17:06.968 I wanted to make sure it was like very ambiance, like heavy, but also, you know, reminds you of like a vintage photo kind of, you know, like not. 00:17:06.968 --> 00:17:13.343 The colors are bright, but it's also very like schematic to what's happening or thematic. 00:17:13.343 --> 00:17:14.784 Did I say thematic? 00:17:15.163 --> 00:17:16.096 Schematic, thematic. 00:17:16.096 --> 00:17:18.926 think they're the same difference. 00:17:18.926 --> 00:17:20.749 Honestly, again, you deserve it. 00:17:20.749 --> 00:17:30.715 Nailed it because there's a scene in there where it feels like she is walking through a vintage photo of like the gates in Chinatown. 00:17:31.166 --> 00:17:31.636 thank you. 00:17:31.636 --> 00:17:32.895 Like again, like. 00:17:32.895 --> 00:17:33.366 Nailed it. 00:17:33.366 --> 00:17:39.811 And also I didn't know that I didn't know that Carmilla predated like a lot of the original vampire stuff. 00:17:39.811 --> 00:17:41.133 She's the O.G. 00:17:41.133 --> 00:17:42.034 Yeah. 00:17:42.034 --> 00:17:47.689 I was going to say there's the Carmilla and then like with like devil stuff, people people always go to like Satan and they was like Lilith. 00:17:47.689 --> 00:17:53.564 Anyway, there's like a ton of stuff that people don't realize that predates a lot of these bigger stories that we tend to enjoy. 00:17:53.564 --> 00:18:00.758 But moving on, as we mentioned earlier, you each headline to solo miniseries for two of the most iconic Disney villains. 00:18:00.758 --> 00:18:02.979 with Cruella De Vil and Maleficent. 00:18:02.979 --> 00:18:04.799 Sweeney, let's start with you. 00:18:04.799 --> 00:18:10.602 How did both members of the Boo-Sue crew end up on one of these books? 00:18:10.742 --> 00:18:20.027 And what notes, if any, did Dynamite, because we hear about this all the time, how the publisher generally gives out some strict parameters. 00:18:20.386 --> 00:18:27.170 What notes did Dynamite editorial staff have for you before you accepted taking on these two iconic characters? 00:18:27.374 --> 00:18:34.878 The way it happened, feel like Sue, you had been on it on your book for over a year before I came on to do Cruella. 00:18:35.700 --> 00:18:44.165 Kind of happened out of nowhere, but knowing that Sue was already like part of that series, like that collection, I was like, yeah, that's like, want to do it too. 00:18:44.165 --> 00:18:45.306 That's fun. 00:18:46.054 --> 00:18:51.109 I think they were pretty relaxed with like the stuff that they gave me. 00:18:51.109 --> 00:18:52.750 And like they asked me about Cruella. 00:18:52.750 --> 00:18:56.718 The only big note was like, she cannot smoke because you know. 00:18:56.718 --> 00:18:58.778 There's no smoking anymore. 00:18:59.518 -->

00:19:01.218 I know, I know. 00:19:01.218 --> 00:19:02.117 And like it's fine. 00:19:02.117 --> 00:19:02.587 It's cool. 00:19:02.587 --> 00:19:10.857 Like I don't care about when you're a kid and you see her like, you know, getting in through the door frame is just like cloud of green around her. 00:19:10.857 --> 00:19:14.178 It was so iconic, but it's just what it is. 00:19:14.178 --> 00:19:19.347 She literally puts out a cigarette on Roger like on it, like their sofa or something in the movie. 00:19:19.347 --> 00:19:21.478 So I'm just like that that did that. 00:19:21.478 --> 00:19:22.604 Like I kind of. 00:19:22.604 --> 00:19:25.355 Wait, like, you know, that made her an icon as far as a villain, but. 00:19:25.355 --> 00:19:27.317 And smoking is bad for you though. 00:19:27.317 --> 00:19:28.959 You can't make that see. 00:19:28.959 --> 00:19:32.590 Well, you what's crazy is that no matter how bad smoke, and I've never been a smoker. 00:19:32.590 --> 00:19:33.582 I think smoking is terrible. 00:19:33.582 --> 00:19:34.182 It's disgusting. 00:19:34.182 --> 00:19:35.093 I've smoked a lot. 00:19:35.093 --> 00:19:37.825 It's undeniably cool, right? 00:19:37.825 --> 00:19:39.306 Like smoking is kind of cool. 00:19:39.306 --> 00:19:40.326 is. 00:19:40.326 --> 00:19:41.327 It does. 00:19:41.327 --> 00:19:48.022 Listen, children are not listening to this, mean, me tell you, when I first started smoking, I was in college. 00:19:48.022 --> 00:19:49.653 I was like very young, right? 00:19:50.220 --> 00:19:59.175 I remember having dinner with a bunch of school friends and I went out after dinner and I lit up a cigarette and the first thing my friend said, so cool smoking. 00:19:59.217 --> 00:20:02.528 That's terrible, but it does look cool. 00:20:02.528 --> 00:20:04.451 Unfortunately, it's very true. 00:20:04.451 --> 00:20:05.481 It's very true. 00:20:05.481 --> 00:20:07.192 My first duty station was in Germany. 00:20:07.192 --> 00:20:11.886 And if you know like every German, like you're like they're born every European smoke. 00:20:11.886 --> 00:20:13.708 They're born with a cigarette in their mouth. 00:20:13.708 --> 00:20:16.461 You're like, we, we. 00:20:16.461 --> 00:20:18.961 You know, and so, but that's the funny thing. 00:20:18.961 --> 00:20:24.531 It's like, we went from like everybody like, you know, smoking to smoking being disgusting and now everybody vapes. 00:20:24.531 --> 00:20:26.501 But if you ever, have you ever watched anybody who's like vaping? 00:20:26.501 --> 00:20:28.201 They always look like they're trying to hide it. 00:20:28.201 --> 00:20:29.602 Like- No, they're smoking again. 00:20:29.602 --> 00:20:31.501 You know, they're embarrassed about it. 00:20:31.501 --> 00:20:33.342 It looks like a toy. 00:20:33.342 --> 00:20:35.221 It's like you're smuggling your vape. 00:20:35.221 --> 00:20:36.142 Like, admit it. 00:20:36.142 --> 00:20:38.125 Just bring it, you know, accept it. 00:20:38.125 --> 00:20:40.625 They like take a toke and then

they blow it other way. 00:20:40.625 --> 00:20:42.155 I prefer that. 00:20:42.155 --> 00:20:45.455 I feel like that's more because you're not trying to blow it in people's faces. 00:20:45.455 --> 00:20:47.986 I've had people do it in like indoor areas. 00:20:47.986 --> 00:20:52.486 I'm like, come on, I don't want to smell your cotton candy. 00:20:52.486 --> 00:20:54.586 Yeah, your cotton candy. 00:20:54.586 --> 00:20:54.836 What? 00:20:54.836 --> 00:20:57.326 Yeah, you're green apple, whatever the fuck it is. 00:20:57.326 --> 00:20:58.806 are so off track. 00:20:58.806 --> 00:20:59.526 Well, I'm going to. 00:20:59.526 --> 00:20:59.695 Yeah. 00:20:59.695 --> 00:21:01.185 Can I expose Aaron? 00:21:01.185 --> 00:21:05.943 I need to expose you really quick because the one and only time I've ever smoked a cigarette was with Aaron. 00:21:05.943 --> 00:21:07.776 when we were in the army together. 00:21:07.776 --> 00:21:13.640 We were so drunk one night doing karaoke and he was, he's a, I'm gonna expose you even worse here, Aaron. 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:15.392 He likes to smoke when he drinks sometimes. 00:21:15.392 --> 00:21:17.123 Not a big deal everybody, gosh. 00:21:17.123 --> 00:21:18.845 Don't get on his case about it, whatever. 00:21:18.845 --> 00:21:19.545 I will. 00:21:19.545 --> 00:21:22.007 But anyway, one day I was drunk and confident. 00:21:22.007 --> 00:21:24.108 I was like, me one of those, smoke one. 00:21:24.108 --> 00:21:25.529 You know, give me, I'll do it. 00:21:25.529 --> 00:21:26.691 And I threw up everywhere. 00:21:26.691 --> 00:21:28.833 Like it was an immediate, just throw up. 00:21:28.833 --> 00:21:29.653 It's bad. 00:21:29.653 --> 00:21:31.769 If he's never done it before, it's the worst thing ever. 00:21:31.769 --> 00:21:33.476 You get the spins. 00:21:33.733 --> 00:21:37.150 We were outside the bar and I'm like, Chris, you want a cigarette? 00:21:37.150 --> 00:21:38.329 You want a cigarette? 00:21:38.329 --> 00:21:44.109 No, you should never offer, unless they ask, you should never offer it. 00:21:44.109 --> 00:21:44.630 No. 00:21:44.630 --> 00:21:46.250 It's things to do. 00:21:46.690 --> 00:21:49.390 You want a chocolate and a cigarette? 00:21:50.910 --> 00:21:53.609 So back to the question though. 00:21:53.609 --> 00:21:57.869 Sue, how was it with you and Maleficent? 00:21:57.963 --> 00:22:06.060 I mean, I feel like for me, you know, there were a lot of like things you can't do, which is like obviously violence, sexual material, right? 00:22:06.060 --> 00:22:08.231 You can't, no blood actually. 00:22:08.231 --> 00:22:10.463 You can't see her getting like hurt physically. 00:22:10.463 --> 00:22:12.776 It was like a little more different than the movie. 00:22:12.776 --> 00:22:14.998 Cause you know, you see the dragon getting stabbed, right? 00:22:14.998 --> 00:22:16.628 But we couldn't do any of them. 00:22:16.769 --> 00:22:17.769 But none of them. 00:22:17.769 --> 00:22:22.273 And the biggest issue was that forget the exist. 00:22:22.273 --> 00:22:27.630 can't, it can't be like, you can't mention the movies or the animated movie at all. 00:22:27.630 --> 00:22:31.821 So like, there was not really I can do because all the backstory was in the movie. 00:22:31.821 --> 00:22:33.853 She doesn't have anything else other than that. 00:22:33.853 --> 00:22:35.334 But they were like, don't do that. 00:22:35.334 --> 00:22:40.416 They just like, just, you know, so I had to pretend like she always was a thing, you know? 00:22:41.217 --> 00:22:50.702 So I think for me, because of that, that like limit, I'll say, okay, well, I'm distort like an adventure story, right? 00:22:50.702 --> 00:22:57.301 Which is easier than I feel like Cruella, because you actually have an actual story based on a whole thing. 00:22:57.301 --> 00:22:58.663 me, she's just having adventures. 00:22:58.663 --> 00:23:01.124 So that was the easiest part. 00:23:01.664 --> 00:23:05.047 You know, it just like figuring out what that would be. 00:23:05.047 --> 00:23:13.490 But once I got to it, it was like, was, you know, fairly, I feel like mine's was a little bit easier than Gorilla was. 00:23:13.981 --> 00:23:17.511 I will say I'm still the opposite, but no, go ahead. 00:23:17.511 --> 00:23:17.667 Sweet. 00:23:17.667 --> 00:23:18.393 I had a question. 00:23:18.393 --> 00:23:18.825 Go ahead. 00:23:18.825 --> 00:23:19.285 I'm curious. 00:23:19.285 --> 00:23:21.175 Why do think it was different for you? 00:23:21.362 --> 00:23:24.577 I just, I like a box where I can. 00:23:24.577 --> 00:23:31.049 break the walls a little bit where I feel like if I'm given too much of a wide range of like, yeah, you can do whatever. 00:23:31.049 --> 00:23:33.601 I'm like, I don't know what's new to any option. 00:23:33.601 --> 00:23:35.780 That's how I do. 00:23:35.780 --> 00:23:36.592 So kudos to you. 00:23:36.592 --> 00:23:52.157 Well Sue, I really love what you did with Maleficent because it was almost like, it almost harkened back to like some EC comics where it was just like, who's going to challenge Maleficent this issue and see how she beats them in a very like nonchalant, lazy, you know, like she was just like, you know what? 00:23:52.157 --> 00:23:56.439 Was it like Rayland or Ryland, the boy who steals her staff? 00:23:56.439 --> 00:23:57.410 Raynaud, yeah. 00:23:57.410 --> 00:23:58.220 Raynaud, thank you. 00:23:58.220 --> 00:23:58.539 Yeah. 00:23:58.539 --> 00:24:00.691 And she's just like, bro, come on. 00:24:00.691 --> 00:24:01.500 I tried to help you out. 00:24:01.500 --> 00:24:02.451 I gave you the compass. 00:24:02.451 --> 00:24:03.381 Now you're going to be a fox. 00:24:03.381 --> 00:24:04.061 Sorry about you. 00:24:04.061 --> 00:24:05.321 Like, yeah. 00:24:05.321 --> 00:24:07.041 I mean, they just, should be evil. 00:24:07.041 --> 00:24:08.932 Like she shouldn't have any redeeming qualities. 00:24:08.932 --> 00:24:10.442 And I'm like, I could do that. 00:24:10.864 --> 00:24:11.804 I could do that. 00:24:11.804

--> 00:24:13.044 Yeah. 00:24:13.324 --> 00:24:17.665 Well, Sue, she, you said that they kind of said that the movies don't exist. 00:24:17.665 --> 00:24:19.243 they specifically mention? 00:24:19.243 --> 00:24:25.258 Like all of the movies or were they saying like just the animated or are we talking about also the ones with Angelina Jolie? 00:24:25.739 --> 00:24:31.903 They said print it like especially the Angelina Jolie one just an even don't even touch it. 00:24:31.903 --> 00:24:32.753 Don't even watch. 00:24:32.753 --> 00:24:36.445 I didn't even want it because I was like, I don't want to be influenced at all. 00:24:36.445 --> 00:24:40.388 I couldn't call her a fairy because she was a fairy in that one and I forgot. 00:24:40.388 --> 00:24:45.092 So I had to like rework and just kind of omit what she is. 00:24:45.712 --> 00:24:47.604 We don't actually know is still. 00:24:48.013 --> 00:24:50.355 She's not a wizard. 00:24:50.355 --> 00:24:53.798 She's just like an evil thing. 00:24:54.278 --> 00:24:57.621 Well, sweetie, is that why the Dalmatians don't show up in your story? 00:24:57.621 --> 00:25:01.064 Is it they want you to pretend like the movie doesn't exist? 00:25:01.064 --> 00:25:06.487 No, it does take place after the movie, but it's not the 101 Dalmatians, kind of. 00:25:06.488 --> 00:25:07.828 It's more of like her. 00:25:07.828 --> 00:25:10.810 They get mentioned because it's the afterwards of like... 00:25:10.810 --> 00:25:14.492 At the end of first movie, she's like stranded on the road. 00:25:15.317 --> 00:25:18.499 with Horace and Jasper and she's just screaming at them and that's it. 00:25:18.499 --> 00:25:20.430 And we don't know what happened. 00:25:20.430 --> 00:25:24.721 So I just got to like pick her from there basically. 00:25:25.520 --> 00:25:27.741 Well, let's talk more about iconic characters. 00:25:27.741 --> 00:25:33.604 Sue, over the summer, you started your run on Chitara with artist Domenico Carbone. 00:25:33.604 --> 00:25:41.195 It was announced at San Diego Comic-Con that you'll be headlining a minor threat spinoff series as well with a good friend of the show, Brian Michael Bendis. 00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:45.992 and you announced that you'll be writing and illustrating a Wizard of Oz mini series. 00:25:47.394 --> 00:25:52.939 Outside of the obvious, how are you going to possibly juggle all of this question? 00:25:52.939 --> 00:25:55.559 What can you tell us about these upcoming titles? 00:25:55.721 --> 00:25:57.361 Well, I have no choice. 00:25:57.809 --> 00:26:00.044 It's like do or die, you know? 00:26:00.044 --> 00:26:02.944 And if I have that, do it, you know? 00:26:03.105 --> 00:26:05.207 I have no choice. 00:26:05.268 --> 00:26:05.647 No. 00:26:05.647 --> 00:26:09.109 Are you excited to write all day and every day for the rest of the year? 00:26:10.210 --> 00:26:12.191 Well, lot of is done already. 00:26:12.191 --> 00:26:16.034 I'm actually done with Chitaara and Wizard of Oz. 00:26:16.153 --> 00:26:19.215

So the harder part is drawing it. 00:26:19.737 --> 00:26:22.358 I mean, you know, they're hard on different levels. 00:26:22.358 --> 00:26:26.330 Like Chitaara is hard because I had to draw for someone else, right? 00:26:26.330 --> 00:26:34.126 And I have one that once, I think it was actually for Maria for like a one-shot fairy tale for Vampirella. 00:26:34.126 --> 00:26:37.838 But that was like, you know, my two training wheels, right? 00:26:37.838 --> 00:26:39.289 And it was very giddy. 00:26:39.925 --> 00:26:44.905 And so Chitara was like, okay, I have to really, really like tighten up. 00:26:44.905 --> 00:26:49.226 I want to be a real writer and you know, I did my best on it. 00:26:49.226 --> 00:26:51.165 So that was hard. 00:26:51.226 --> 00:26:55.145 But then once I got to do it, I was like, I could totally do this. 00:26:55.145 --> 00:27:00.405 You know, for my, for anyone else, I feel like, you know, figure it out. 00:27:00.705 --> 00:27:05.390 Well, Chris and I also kind of consider ourselves to be like super serious. 00:27:05.390 --> 00:27:08.319 like journalists, know, journalists here with the Oblivion Bar. 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.750 We're at the really, you know, we're at the upper crust of serious journalism. 00:27:11.750 --> 00:27:14.140 So we have an important question that we need to ask. 00:27:14.140 --> 00:27:18.450 And that is like, who's a better kisser, Tigra or Snarf? 00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:20.529 Snarf is a baby. 00:27:23.410 --> 00:27:28.089 I actually don't know how old, I think Snarf might be older than all of them. 00:27:28.630 --> 00:27:30.549 In the cartoon he was. 00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:31.099 right. 00:27:31.099 --> 00:27:32.230 Yeah. 00:27:32.334 --> 00:27:35.933 I don't know, Starp is like a baby puppy to me, you know? 00:27:35.933 --> 00:27:39.894 In that case, baby puppies give great kisses, you know? 00:27:39.894 --> 00:27:41.094 And then, right? 00:27:41.094 --> 00:27:43.294 Like, but obviously- That's a dog owner right there. 00:27:43.294 --> 00:27:46.394 We just, we had to get you with the gacha journalism, you know? 00:27:46.394 --> 00:27:47.473 Yeah. 00:27:48.193 --> 00:27:55.554 Well, you know, as a card holding member of the Sweeney Boo fan club, I feel it's important that we should reassure the listener here. 00:27:55.554 --> 00:27:58.314 You will not just be creating these Blythe dolls forever. 00:27:58.314 --> 00:28:02.342 You know, you're going to eventually- get back to writing and drawing comics as well, right? 00:28:02.342 --> 00:28:09.541 So my question for you is, do you have anything that you can- If you think I'm intense, she has a, I don't have a hobby, she does. 00:28:09.541 --> 00:28:11.201 She has an actual life. 00:28:11.201 --> 00:28:16.701 And sometimes I just decide to my apartment for some freaking reason, because I think I the time, so yeah. 00:28:16.701 --> 00:28:18.842 Is that a new paint job behind you? 00:28:18.842 --> 00:28:22.211 No, no, but like for example, sometimes she

takes me, she's like, what are you up to? 00:28:22.211 --> 00:28:25.182 I'm like, I'm painting my stairs, and she's like, why? 00:28:25.182 --> 00:28:26.281 Yeah. 00:28:27.276 --> 00:28:31.468 Well, this is actual like this is actually like a like a true friendship right here. 00:28:31.468 --> 00:28:32.647 Yeah. 00:28:32.647 --> 00:28:33.469 I love it. 00:28:33.469 --> 00:28:35.068 The BOOSU crew. 00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:36.450 Yeah. 00:28:36.450 --> 00:28:37.529 It's not a facade, everybody. 00:28:37.529 --> 00:28:38.601 It's true friendship. 00:28:38.601 --> 00:28:38.901 Yeah. 00:28:38.901 --> 00:28:39.851 No, it's real. 00:28:39.851 --> 00:28:41.692 It's very real. 00:28:41.971 --> 00:28:45.855 Well, so outside of the Blythedolls, Sweeney, what else do you have going on? 00:28:45.855 --> 00:28:49.494 Is there anything you can share with us that's upcoming for you now that Harley Quinn has officially ended? 00:28:49.494 --> 00:28:53.036 You always have a bunch of covers that you've been promoting on your sub stack and on social media. 00:28:53.036 --> 00:28:54.576 But what else you got? 00:28:55.096 --> 00:28:57.298 Well, I'm working on the second volume. 00:28:57.518 --> 00:29:00.718 body which is going to come out in a year. 00:29:00.718 --> 00:29:01.857 amazing. 00:29:01.857 --> 00:29:03.038 Thank you. 00:29:03.218 --> 00:29:04.077 Incredible. 00:29:04.077 --> 00:29:08.778 I'm hating myself for having way more characters. 00:29:09.238 --> 00:29:10.917 It's a lot. 00:29:11.117 --> 00:29:23.198 But I'm working on that right now and Kenny Garcia and I have a graphic novel that we're going to start working on next year which is about vampires in high school. 00:29:23.917 --> 00:29:24.898 It's really fun. 00:29:24.898 --> 00:29:30.653 And I have something else that I'm working on that is still a secret, but that I'm also gonna write and draw. 00:29:30.653 --> 00:29:32.204 So yeah. 00:29:32.204 --> 00:29:40.290 You know, I know someone who's actually drawing a vampire story that can get you out to, like if you want to talk to them about your upcoming vampire story, if you need it. 00:29:40.902 --> 00:29:46.246 I thought, I was waiting for the name drop and I was, I was like, wait, wait. 00:29:46.246 --> 00:29:47.897 I was like, does this suit that you're talking about? 00:29:47.897 --> 00:29:49.449 But you seem so serious about it. 00:29:49.449 --> 00:29:50.960 I was waiting. 00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:53.342 I was like, okay, who are we? 00:29:53.874 --> 00:29:55.763 Sue's like, who, I wanna know too. 00:29:55.763 --> 00:30:00.746 The dry humor doesn't come across as well via virtual videocast, apparently. 00:30:00.746 --> 00:30:01.727 This guy. 00:30:01.727 --> 00:30:03.365 This guy right here. 00:30:03.365 --> 00:30:04.116 Nailed it. 00:30:04.116 --> 00:30:05.357 Another nailed it. 00:30:05.817 --> 00:30:08.459 Well, I'll tell you, I'm very excited for Over Your Dead Body. 00:30:08.459 --> 00:30:11.990 Number two, is that the official or do we have

a subtitle? 00:30:11.990 --> 00:30:12.413 not official. 00:30:12.413 --> 00:30:19.405 We're still working on it because I'm not sure if I wanna go, but it's TBD for now. 00:30:19.405 --> 00:30:21.645 Over two bodies. 00:30:21.665 --> 00:30:23.105 two dead bodies. 00:30:24.385 --> 00:30:24.885 All right. 00:30:24.885 --> 00:30:26.766 Well, you know, like I said, I'm always excited. 00:30:26.766 --> 00:30:35.465 anytime that I have two, I think I have two creators anytime at my local comic shop when there's a new cover out, they know, put it in Chris's pool. 00:30:35.465 --> 00:30:37.246 And that's Sweeney and that's Christian Ward. 00:30:37.246 --> 00:30:47.655 So anytime that you guys put covers out, I've got like a treasure trove of just Sweeney covers over here in my, I like one short box because I don't really collect a ton of single issues anymore. 00:30:47.655 --> 00:30:49.349 I'm a dirty trade waiter. 00:30:49.349 --> 00:30:53.442 now, but, you know, if I, if I get a cover, usually it's ward or water, boo. 00:30:53.442 --> 00:30:57.396 And now I get my lease, I can get my lease section all ready to go. 00:30:57.396 --> 00:30:58.617 It's okay. 00:30:58.617 --> 00:30:59.739 I'm not offended though. 00:30:59.739 --> 00:31:02.830 I have as nearly amount of covers as she does. 00:31:02.830 --> 00:31:04.170 So I'm, don't worry. 00:31:04.170 --> 00:31:06.013 Although I will still be offended if you don't buy them. 00:31:06.013 --> 00:31:07.023 That's true. 00:31:09.046 --> 00:31:10.788 I'm just a filthy window shopper. 00:31:10.788 --> 00:31:18.509 I see all this beautiful art that, know, you guys are creating these beautiful stories and I'll buy all the comics that I can, but like, you know, Chris is, Chris is the art. 00:31:18.509 --> 00:31:20.650 connoisseur and he's got like a whole collection. 00:31:20.650 --> 00:31:23.099 go to, I visit his house so I can see all the beautiful art. 00:31:23.099 --> 00:31:23.950 Hey, that's fair. 00:31:23.950 --> 00:31:24.559 Look at you. 00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:28.589 Both of your houses, like you guys are like having like crazy collections. 00:31:28.589 --> 00:31:30.250 What are you talking about? 00:31:30.829 --> 00:31:31.529 Yeah. 00:31:31.529 --> 00:31:36.730 Well, if I can share really quickly before we get into our last question, I had a great sort of experience with both you guys. 00:31:36.730 --> 00:31:40.019 So this is our first time meeting at San Diego Comic Con this last summer. 00:31:40.019 --> 00:31:41.329 We did a whatnot show. 00:31:41.329 --> 00:31:42.170 were actually- wait, wait. 00:31:42.170 --> 00:31:43.905 It was Chicago. 00:31:43.905 --> 00:31:45.016 C2E2. 00:31:45.277 --> 00:31:46.156 you're I'm so sorry. 00:31:46.156 --> 00:31:46.457 You're right. 00:31:46.457 --> 00:31:48.067 Yes, we did meet for the first time in Chicago. 00:31:48.067 --> 00:31:48.867 you? 00:31:48.969 --> 00:31:49.828 It was a brief. 00:31:49.828 --> 00:31:51.888 was a quick moment. 00:31:51.888 --> 00:31:52.867 was like a hi bye. 00:31:52.867 --> 00:31:54.192 It was like a hi nice to meet you. 00:31:54.192 --> 00:31:55.291 See you later. 00:31:55.385 --> 00:31:58.874 I wish I wish everybody listening could be a fly on this wall. 00:31:58.874 --> 00:32:00.454 God, making me feel bad, Sue. 00:32:00.454 --> 00:32:01.414 Jesus. 00:32:01.675 --> 00:32:04.386 Well, we got to actually talk during San Diego Comic Con. 00:32:04.386 --> 00:32:08.196 And then obviously, Sweeney, we had a whatnot show at San Diego as well. 00:32:08.196 --> 00:32:09.720 I think they were both really fun. 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.461 Sue, this was your very first whatnot show, correct? 00:32:12.461 --> 00:32:13.806 This last time at San Diego. 00:32:13.806 --> 00:32:15.165 Be honest, was it great? 00:32:15.165 --> 00:32:17.326 mean, one out of 10, what would you give it on a scale? 00:32:17.326 --> 00:32:19.566 10 being the best, one being terrible. 00:32:19.566 --> 00:32:21.996 No, actually, it was a lot of fun. 00:32:21.996 --> 00:32:23.286 It was actually a lot of fun. 00:32:23.286 --> 00:32:29.546 I could actually do it for, I mean, you know, we used to do live streams together, you know, with the crew and everything. 00:32:29.546 --> 00:32:38.046 So I think I've gotten used to being on camera, I guess, but it was a lot of fun and people were super, like the chat's always super nice. 00:32:38.046 --> 00:32:40.806 You were a great host, you know. 00:32:40.993 --> 00:32:43.454 And actually when you were the host, I was like, thank God. 00:32:43.454 --> 00:32:45.036 Okay, at least I know him. 00:32:46.155 --> 00:32:54.068 Well, the contrary to that is that Sweeney, you're, and again, I said this earlier, like, this is not me trying to like put myself in your life or anything, but I think we're friends, right? 00:32:54.068 --> 00:32:55.160 Yeah, of course. 00:32:55.160 --> 00:32:55.940 Yeah. 00:32:56.200 --> 00:33:01.192 And for some reason during your show at San Diego, I just was bumbling over my words. 00:33:01.192 --> 00:33:02.353 I was sweating. 00:33:02.353 --> 00:33:05.743 Chris does not get nervous. 00:33:05.743 --> 00:33:06.183 Yeah. 00:33:06.183 --> 00:33:06.954 I don't know what it was. 00:33:06.954 --> 00:33:09.246 I think I just hit my social limit that day. 00:33:09.246 --> 00:33:10.286 My battery had to... 00:33:10.286 --> 00:33:13.286 officially drained, but I could not say the right things. 00:33:13.286 --> 00:33:14.448 It was terrible. 00:33:14.448 --> 00:33:15.878 So I apologize for that. 00:33:15.878 --> 00:33:16.670 my God. 00:33:16.670 --> 00:33:17.410 You're fine. 00:33:17.410 --> 00:33:18.510 It didn't come through at all. 00:33:18.510 --> 00:33:22.732 And I'm pretty sure hours were like days three in the afternoon. 00:33:22.732 --> 00:33:24.933 had already been like, my God. 00:33:24.933 --> 00:33:30.007 You know, like starting an hour after the beginning of San Diego Comic-Con, if you tell me you're tired, I'm like, I understand. 00:33:30.007 -->

00:33:33.078 It's all good. 00:33:33.078 --> 00:33:37.520 We were doing like, Erin, think we, what I tell you, like we did like six to seven shows a day. 00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:42.665 Chris was sending me like, Again, we're so distracted here, but I love the conversation. 00:33:42.665 --> 00:33:51.355 No, Chris was like sending me his updates of like his daily schedule and it was like insane, like probably five shows, four to five shows a day, like just, and then prep time. 00:33:51.355 --> 00:33:52.306 to be on. 00:33:52.306 --> 00:33:54.546 Yeah, always gotta be on, always gotta be on. 00:33:54.546 --> 00:33:57.846 I mean, this really is a big deal, so you should be nervous. 00:33:57.846 --> 00:33:59.205 is show time. 00:33:59.205 --> 00:34:00.596 What are you talking about? 00:34:00.596 --> 00:34:04.435 The one time that Chris could not make a convention. 00:34:04.605 --> 00:34:10.510 I had to step in and do the whatnot shows because Chris was going through his first round of chemo. 00:34:10.630 --> 00:34:12.561 And so I went to the convention. 00:34:12.561 --> 00:34:16.155 was like, Chris, you son of a bitch, you're not here at this convention. 00:34:16.155 --> 00:34:17.436 I understand. 00:34:17.436 --> 00:34:20.416 But they were like, Aaron, you got to do the whatnot shows. 00:34:20.416 --> 00:34:21.288 And I'm like, fine. 00:34:21.288 --> 00:34:28.403 And that was the most intimidating weekend I've ever had with working with creators. 00:34:28.403 --> 00:34:31.746 But the greatest thing was that I had Chris. 00:34:31.797 --> 00:34:33.088 He was my man on the computer. 00:34:33.088 --> 00:34:35.730 was my man at the dismal Oracle. 00:34:35.730 --> 00:34:41.304 And he was like feeding me all the information that I needed for all the artists that I was doing the work on shows with. 00:34:41.304 --> 00:34:47.068 And so I sounded like, I sounded so good just because of this. 00:34:47.148 --> 00:34:49.208 He made me sound smart. 00:34:49.369 --> 00:34:53.532 Is it because every text was followed with like, don't fuck it up? 00:34:53.693 --> 00:34:54.543 much, pretty much. 00:34:54.543 --> 00:34:56.034 He's like, you dare ruin my name. 00:34:56.034 --> 00:34:57.034 He's like, don't embarrass me. 00:34:57.034 --> 00:34:58.255 He's like, do not embarrass me. 00:34:58.255 --> 00:35:01.547 Every, he was show was do not embarrass me. 00:35:02.117 --> 00:35:09.050 or like you ever watch Devils Wears Prada when Anne Hathaway's like characters like whisperings to her ear. 00:35:09.050 --> 00:35:09.438 Yeah. 00:35:09.438 --> 00:35:10.030 It's like that. 00:35:10.030 --> 00:35:10.780 Absolutely. 00:35:10.780 --> 00:35:12.820 Remember this is Sweeney. 00:35:13.052 --> 00:35:13.251 okay. 00:35:13.251 --> 00:35:13.882 Hello. 00:35:13.882 --> 00:35:17.742 No, I'm excited to meet you Sue. 00:35:17.742 --> 00:35:19.902 Sweeney is always a sure too. 00:35:20.184 --> 00:35:21.684 you're sure. 00:35:21.684 --> 00:35:22.134 Shocker. 00:35:22.134 --> 00:35:28.454 You're standing I know we look alike as well, but like we're both very sure we look alike, you know. 00:35:28.905 --> 00:35:32.186 I mean, you both wear your, job is just bitch hats and we can. 00:35:32.186 --> 00:35:32.945 That's just me. 00:35:32.945 --> 00:35:33.945 That's mine. 00:35:33.945 --> 00:35:35.025 Yeah. 00:35:35.206 --> 00:35:36.715 thought, I might have one too. 00:35:36.715 --> 00:35:38.556 I think there's one on the wall behind you. 00:35:38.556 --> 00:35:40.885 My one is I'm just a little guy. 00:35:40.885 --> 00:35:41.985 See? 00:35:42.065 --> 00:35:51.126 I feel like I have to call you out just a little bit here because it's, it's too funny to not bring up on the show, but I think it might've been New York Comic-Con last year. 00:35:51.126 --> 00:35:56.940 So we're almost a full year past this memory, but at one point I was walking around losing my mind and I look over. 00:35:56.940 --> 00:35:59.871 and it's you and I see you looking up at somebody and it's Teenie Howard. 00:35:59.871 --> 00:36:04.956 And to see you two talk to each other is like one of the craziest things. 00:36:04.956 --> 00:36:07.257 Teenie's probably six foot. 00:36:07.257 --> 00:36:08.018 Yeah, probably. 00:36:08.018 --> 00:36:09.498 my gosh. 00:36:09.498 --> 00:36:10.568 And yeah, I'm six foot. 00:36:10.568 --> 00:36:11.880 Teenie's not tiny. 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:13.621 Yeah, no, Teenie's not tiny. 00:36:13.702 --> 00:36:15.302 But Sweeney's Teenie. 00:36:17.184 --> 00:36:18.764 And she's worked with Deenie. 00:36:18.925 --> 00:36:20.396 Yes, exactly. 00:36:20.396 --> 00:36:30.873 It's, you know, every time I like, one time I was at a con and I was hanging out with someone who's like, he was seven feet tall, basically. 00:36:30.873 --> 00:36:35.773 And I was like, in my head, was like, I want to enjoy this conversation right now, but I know that everyone's looking at us. 00:36:35.773 --> 00:36:37.634 There's no way. 00:36:37.673 --> 00:36:39.594 No, it's not happening. 00:36:40.034 --> 00:36:48.885 My wife is watching this like current season of Dancing with the Stars and there's like this seven foot plus basketball star dancing with one of these like famous dancers. 00:36:48.885 --> 00:36:49.737 And that's the way it is. 00:36:49.737 --> 00:36:55.070 Like he literally picks her up and just like carries her around like one of your Blythe dolls on the dance floor. 00:36:55.070 --> 00:36:59.873 I'm just waiting for that one time they're spinning and she just flies off through the roof out of Disney studios. 00:37:00.894 --> 00:37:04.376 But let's get back on track if we may. 00:37:04.376 --> 00:37:06.478 This is amazing. 00:37:06.518 --> 00:37:13.514 Before we let you both go though, we always like to end the conversation by asking our guests what they've been enjoying recently. 00:37:13.514 --> 00:37:16.309 And this can really be any medium. 00:37:16.309 --> 00:37:18.300 movies, comics, video games. 00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:19.452 Like what are you guys

doing? 00:37:19.452 --> 00:37:20.103 What's your hobby? 00:37:20.103 --> 00:37:20.867 What's your go-to? 00:37:20.867 --> 00:37:22.916 What helps you escape the daily grind? 00:37:22.916 --> 00:37:23.996 What do you got? 00:37:23.996 --> 00:37:28.219 Well, we both really enjoyed the interview with the vampire TV show. 00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:31.001 That's like the number one thing that we like. 00:37:31.001 --> 00:37:33.963 We talk about it when we're watching it. 00:37:35.326 --> 00:37:44.112 I got a shirt that she picked out and I'm currently in the midst of making another interview with the vampire shirt, a custom-made shirt. 00:37:45.434 --> 00:37:47.375 so we share that passion. 00:37:47.835 --> 00:37:49.257 I, I have no hobbies. 00:37:49.257 --> 00:37:49.876 I have no life. 00:37:49.876 --> 00:37:52.778 She, she's the one with all the fun ones. 00:37:54.541 --> 00:38:04.086 We've been like, we, we definitely shared about, watching the TV with the vampire and, I got back into reading a little bit, or at least shaming myself into it. 00:38:04.086 --> 00:38:09.010 And I was starting, like, I was reading this one thing, like Alan Morris. 00:38:09.690 --> 00:38:12.431 I, I, I've kind of been doing the same thing as Sweeney. 00:38:12.431 --> 00:38:15.034 I've been like shaming myself back into. 00:38:15.054 --> 00:38:17.193 like reading actual books. 00:38:17.594 --> 00:38:26.353 I've been on this weird, I don't know what they call them, but like these spicy novels, like the- The harlequin novels? 00:38:26.353 --> 00:38:30.204 Like the court of thorns and rose or whatever they are. 00:38:30.204 --> 00:38:32.454 apparently it is steamy. 00:38:32.614 --> 00:38:34.344 yeah, yeah. 00:38:34.344 --> 00:38:40.594 Like it's kind of odd as a guy to be like reading from like the female's perspective of like these hot, steamy moments. 00:38:40.594 --> 00:38:44.284 But at the same time, I'm enjoying it, you know? 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:46.592 I'm on book three already, baby. 00:38:46.592 --> 00:38:47.980 It's good. 00:38:48.289 --> 00:38:52.052 would love to say that I'm surprised that Aaron's into smut, but I am so not surprised. 00:38:52.052 --> 00:38:52.853 No, no, no, no. 00:38:52.853 --> 00:38:54.324 Yeah, it's not surprising. 00:38:54.804 --> 00:38:56.726 I wear all of my kinks on my sleeve. 00:38:56.726 --> 00:38:57.646 So. 00:38:59.467 --> 00:39:02.239 Well, sweetie, it's nice to hear that you're reading a saga Swamp Thing. 00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:06.610 I feel like that's something that I go back to at least every two years. 00:39:06.632 --> 00:39:10.773 And I feel like I read or see something new that I really love. 00:39:10.989 --> 00:39:23.327 It's just it's one of those iconic storylines that I feel like every comic fan if I ever you know approach someone and they asked me for sort of a character defining storyline How can you go any further than saga of swamp thing? 00:39:23.327 --> 00:39:31.742 I think it's just I don't know if any creator going

forward maybe for the rest of time When they get on a swamp thing book, it's gonna be in some way compared to saga of swamp thing. 00:39:31.742 --> 00:39:37.855 It's that character defining, you know It's also I like it's always I had never read it before. 00:39:37.855 --> 00:40:11.202 There's a bunch of like those classics that you you hear about you've seen you've read pages here and there but like actually getting to spend time with the book and just like singing it was made like 40 years ago it's like it's pretty bonkers yeah absolutely well what a pleasure it has been to have both you here on the show together the subu crew all together you know i'll speak for aaron here and i'll see crew boo subu crew what did i say did i say subu switch it around yeah i tried to put subu before boo you know what we're just gonna make both and then aaron i will wear each of them That way people will know. 00:40:11.344 --> 00:40:12.434 I'll speak for Aaron here. 00:40:12.434 --> 00:40:14.596 I'll speak for the listener, everyone listening right now. 00:40:14.596 --> 00:40:19.978 When I say such huge fans of both of yours, not only as comic creators, but just as individuals. 00:40:19.978 --> 00:40:29.204 Like I said, throughout this conversation, it's always a pleasure to hang out with you both at these cons and to get to see you and to always hear about the new work that's coming down the pipeline for both of you. 00:40:29.204 --> 00:40:34.597 So as soon as we get these Busu crew, Nike crewnecks in production. 00:40:35.134 --> 00:40:35.804 Let's do it. 00:40:35.804 --> 00:40:38.277 We'll put a link in the show notes for everybody. 00:40:38.277 --> 00:40:39.487 You have to get one of each color. 00:40:39.487 --> 00:40:44.920 And before we head out of here, guys, is there anything you guys want to highlight or plug? 00:40:45.001 --> 00:40:46.842 How can the people follow you? 00:40:47.003 --> 00:40:47.793 Sweeney, we'll start with you. 00:40:47.793 --> 00:40:51.425 Yeah, I'm everywhere on social media. 00:40:51.425 --> 00:40:56.228 SweeneyBoo, Instagram, Twitter, and whatnot. 00:40:56.449 --> 00:40:59.094 Not whatnot, just whatnot in general. 00:40:59.094 --> 00:41:00.811 Just a little whatnot. 00:41:01.072 --> 00:41:02.614 Yeah. 00:41:02.614 --> 00:41:03.717 But yeah. 00:41:03.717 --> 00:41:34.521 going back to con it's going to be in new york i'm going to be at luca in italy at the end of october and thought bubble and swan are going to be in japan for tokyo comic con in december so lucky lucky man that sounds awesome sue how about you twitter is sue d lee and my name is sulee draws sulee draws.com i'm just trying to think if there's anything i'm allowed to promote That I'm not allowed to or am I allowed to say out loud? 00:41:34.521 --> 00:41:35.762 I guess not. 00:41:36.141 --> 00:41:44.818 Except for Winter of Oz and the Minor Threats little mini that I'm doing with Brian, which I'm currently working on. 00:41:44.818 --> 00:41:46.670 So I'm very, very excited for that. 00:41:46.670 --> 00:41:50.693 Like I'm a big Brian and it's just kind of like a dream come true. 00:41:50.693 --> 00:41:54.766 And then I'll be working on more Christopher Chaos, Adam Frankenstein stuff. 00:41:54.766 --> 00:42:06.144 It hasn't been like officially announced, but Literally, they said it and I was like, okay, well, I'm just gonna they said it's if I talk about it So I'll be doing more Adam Frankenstein stuff. 00:42:06.144 --> 00:42:07.266 So nonchalant. 00:42:07.266 --> 00:42:07.771 No, sir. 00:42:07.771 --> 00:42:12.931 Like, you know, whatever Yeah, maybe CBR we know you're listening. 00:42:12.931 --> 00:42:16.474 You just gotta you just got a drop right there All right. 00:42:16.474 --> 00:42:30.387 I'm super excited for the the Wizard of Oz series I've always been a fan of that like franchise and that fandom So I'm excited to see what you come up with on that one Well, it's kind of just a retelling of the movie, right? 00:42:30.387 --> 00:42:40.456 I'm actually using stuff that didn't get made into the movie that I had the script for and then can't do anything with the book and stuff like that. 00:42:40.456 --> 00:42:46.760 But I rewatched the movie and you should watch it if you haven't watched it or if you haven't watched it in a minute. 00:42:46.760 --> 00:43:21.753 It's actually really good and maybe I'm getting old and I'm I had a lot of like life things happen to me and it's just like I've you I've become like a mom now where like I just cry in a drop of a hat and it actually like the friendship scenes are so beautiful that like when they started to cry I started crying it's actually so lovely and like the metaphor of like everything that they're going through is just like unfiltered friendship and love and acceptance and it's just like This was made in 1940, like in the 1940s. 00:43:21.753 --> 00:43:22.253 You know what I mean? 00:43:22.253 --> 00:43:26.393 And it's just like, if you haven't watched it, you should, it's actually really good. 00:43:26.393 --> 00:43:28.193 The first color movie too. 00:43:28.193 --> 00:43:28.704 Yeah. 00:43:28.704 --> 00:43:29.333 Yes. 00:43:29.333 --> 00:43:32.653 I have the 4k and I recently rewatched it and it is incredible. 00:43:32.653 --> 00:43:41.324 If you, if you ever just want like a great at home viewing experience of that movie, it's so innocent, an innocent like viewing experience. 00:43:41.324 --> 00:43:49.313 I recently rewatched it as well because I went and saw I finally got to see Wicked in theater, or I'm not in theater, but in Broadway. 00:43:49.552 --> 00:43:55.096 I got to see The Wiz with Wayne Brady as the wizard and that was amazing. 00:43:55.096 --> 00:43:57.626 And then what was the other one? 00:43:57.626 --> 00:44:01.338 Have you ever, I'm sure you've seen it, Return to Oz? 00:44:01.338 --> 00:44:03.000 No, I have not. 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:03.971 Apparently it's insane. 00:44:03.971 --> 00:44:05.021 And scary? 00:44:06.670 --> 00:44:29.150

Highly recommend that that is one of the most terrifying movies that you will see as an adult or as a child that movie traumatized me There's the there's the the the troll king who is basically rocks There's the wheelers which are like the new version of the flying monkeys and they are at like you hear them coming because they Yeah, I mean they do that too. 00:44:29.150 --> 00:44:37.255 I was watching the when I was a kid I remember that that scene with the shoes and then like the socks coming up. 00:44:37.255 --> 00:44:41.496 I remember how scary that was for some reason. 00:44:41.496 --> 00:44:44.157 mean, watching it, I'm like, you know, that's cool. 00:44:44.157 --> 00:44:46.007 The effects are amazing for that time. 00:44:46.007 --> 00:44:50.978 But I was I remember just being so creeped out by that. 00:44:50.978 --> 00:44:52.079 It's just so good. 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.099 What a great movie, you have seen it, honestly. 00:44:55.253 --> 00:45:02.382 Man, if you were scared by that, I need to send you there's this like French movie of like Little Thumb. 00:45:02.568 --> 00:45:08.880 And it was made I think in like the 70s and it scared me so hard as a kid. 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.239 The ogre and everything. 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:11.617 It's creepy. 00:45:11.617 --> 00:45:13.188 You have to watch it. 00:45:13.188 --> 00:45:14.661 It's amazing. 00:45:14.661 --> 00:45:21.824 The Busu crew is going to be a movie fan like fan group and we're just going to watch scary movies that terrify us. 00:45:21.824 --> 00:45:22.855 Yeah. 00:45:22.855 --> 00:45:24.974 We didn't mention during the conversation before we get out of here. 00:45:24.974 --> 00:45:25.605 Spill your guts. 00:45:25.605 --> 00:45:27.606 I'm so sad that that's not around anymore. 00:45:27.606 --> 00:45:28.215 It makes sense. 00:45:28.215 --> 00:45:29.666 You guys are so busy right now. 00:45:29.666 --> 00:45:31.628 It's hard to do that. 00:45:31.628 --> 00:45:37.971 Again, as podcasts, we can tell you how much work we don't just hop on as silly and organic as it seems. 00:45:37.971 --> 00:45:40.072 It's not as organic as you think, everybody. 00:45:40.072 --> 00:45:43.773 You really have to prep and the editing and the promoting and all the things. 00:45:43.773 --> 00:45:46.916 So anytime the subu crew wants to get on here. 00:45:46.916 --> 00:45:47.735 Absolutely. 00:45:47.735 --> 00:45:48.177 Please. 00:45:48.177 --> 00:45:49.637 I would love love to. 00:45:49.637 --> 00:45:51.251 Come spill your guts. 00:45:51.251 --> 00:46:03.429 Yeah, I mean, I mean, it's, know, if whenever we're like we have time and the space for we'd absolutely would, you know, go back on to spill it's just like right now it's just like a hiatus for now, you know? 00:46:03.429 --> 00:46:04.148 Yeah. 00:46:04.148 --> 00:46:06.070 Well, we just left our hiatus. 00:46:06.070 --> 00:46:06.840 We were on a hiatus. 00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:07.831 you go. 00:46:07.831 --> 00:46:11.623 So our first hiatus ever, Aaron, I think we're better than ever. 00:46:11.623 --> 00:46:14.255 So you need that sometimes. 00:46:14.255 --> 00:46:15.105 absolutely. 00:46:15.105 --> 00:46:16.996 Brian Kavon said it said it the best. 00:46:16.996 --> 00:46:17.407 Yeah. 00:46:17.407 --> 00:46:17.817 Yeah. 00:46:17.817 --> 00:46:18.407 Step away. 00:46:18.407 --> 00:46:19.358 That's right. 00:46:19.358 --> 00:46:21.103 Well, Thank you both so much again. 00:46:21.103 --> 00:46:22.275 We appreciate it. 00:46:22.275 --> 00:46:23.666 We will talk to you the next time you're on. 00:46:23.666 --> 00:46:25.655 Thank you. 00:46:25.655 --> 00:46:27.137 Thank you so much. 00:46:27.516 --> 00:46:28.007 All righty. 00:46:28.007 --> 00:46:30.778 There's that conversation with Sweeney and Sue again. 00:46:30.778 --> 00:46:32.878 Thank you both so much for being on the show. 00:46:32.878 --> 00:46:34.369 Always a pleasure talking to them again. 00:46:34.369 --> 00:46:35.621 This is Sweeney's second time on the show. 00:46:35.621 --> 00:46:37.141 This was Sue's first time on the show. 00:46:37.141 --> 00:46:40.822 So we'll definitely have them back on at some point when they are available. 00:46:40.822 --> 00:46:42.592 Aaron, what were your thoughts on that conversation? 00:46:42.592 --> 00:46:45.204 Did you have a good time talking to the Boo Sue crew? 00:46:45.204 --> 00:46:45.635 God. 00:46:45.635 --> 00:46:46.155 I loved it. 00:46:46.155 --> 00:46:47.065 It was so much fun. 00:46:47.065 --> 00:46:49.349 felt I don't know. 00:46:49.349 --> 00:46:58.074 Like it was one of those conversations where it's so like natural and fun with these two like again, like you said at the beginning, rising star creators. 00:46:58.074 --> 00:47:02.356 And I don't know if it's a, what is that called when you like imposter syndrome? 00:47:02.356 --> 00:47:07.757 I don't know if it's like, do you ever like it's going so well, you're like, I gotta be fucking something's wrong. 00:47:07.757 --> 00:47:09.338 Something's wrong here. 00:47:09.338 --> 00:47:11.559 Like why is this going so well? 00:47:11.559 --> 00:47:18.445 know, like I got on every first day, every like all my entire life, but no, they're just, they're sweet. 00:47:18.445 --> 00:47:21.786 sweet people and they're and they're like easy to talk to. 00:47:21.786 --> 00:47:23.346 They love what they do. 00:47:23.346 --> 00:47:24.295 They love what they create. 00:47:24.295 --> 00:47:26.266 They're excited about what they're doing. 00:47:26.266 --> 00:47:27.405 And they're just I don't know. 00:47:27.405 --> 00:47:33.706 They're just passionate creators and and both Sue and like I said, that's my first time really talking with Sue ever. 00:47:33.706 --> 00:47:40.186 Sweeney, I've spoken to a couple of times and it's just they're just nice people and you love talking to nice people. 00:47:40.186 --> 00:47:40.496 Absolutely. 00:47:40.496 --> 00:47:40.686 Yeah. 00:47:40.686 --> 00:47:43.675 And we're very excited, too, for what they have coming down

the pipeline. 00:47:43.675 --> 00:47:46.137 lot of cool stuff that they're going to be working on here soon. 00:47:46.137 --> 00:47:48.679 And yeah, hopefully everybody enjoyed that conversation. 00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:50.699 Once again, this is interview with on Aaron. 00:47:50.699 --> 00:47:54.420 So we've got more episodes coming down, coming down the pipeline. 00:47:54.420 --> 00:47:56.590 We've got Jeff Lemire on the show tomorrow. 00:47:56.590 --> 00:47:59.791 So Jeff Lemire, do we say more? 00:47:59.791 --> 00:48:00.141 Right? 00:48:00.141 --> 00:48:01.411 Like that is Jeff Lemire, man. 00:48:01.411 --> 00:48:02.192 It's Jeff Lemire, man. 00:48:02.192 --> 00:48:02.523 Come on. 00:48:02.523 --> 00:48:04.422 Like you're going to listen and it's going to be awesome. 00:48:04.422 --> 00:48:09.545 Hopefully everyone enjoys that conversation, but that'll do it from us here on the oblivion bar podcast. 00:48:09.545 --> 00:48:11.664 Episode one 67 is in the books. 00:48:11.664 --> 00:48:13.797 Aaron, please take us out of here. 00:48:13.797 --> 00:48:15.150 All right. 00:48:15.150 --> 00:48:20.349 Subscribe to our podcast, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, Audible, iHeartRadio. 00:48:21.269 --> 00:48:24.369 Why don't you pre-record this? 00:48:27.769 --> 00:48:31.809 Wherever you listen to your favorite podcast, that's where we are. 00:48:31.929 --> 00:48:33.318 Okay, here we go. 00:48:33.976 --> 00:48:46.929 Thank you to our patrons, Alex, Alice, Aaron, Botter, Brad, Chris S, Chris Y, Christie, Danny, David, Elliott, George, Gianni, Greg, Haley, Ham6, Jake H, Jeremy, Kenny, Kyle, Lucy, Mac, Miles, Mike, Olivia, Robert, Travis, Zach, and Brad and Lisa. 00:48:46.929 --> 00:48:58.963 If you want to support the show without spending any money, a follow on your preferred podcasting platform and a five-star rating and or review on Apple podcasts and Spotify helps the show a ton. 00:48:58.963 --> 00:49:00.112 It does. 00:49:00.612 --> 00:49:01.764 Please do it. 00:49:01.764 --> 00:49:02.773 Please. 00:49:03.447 --> 00:49:08.811 Follow us on social media, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Blue Sky and threads at oblivion bar pod. 00:49:08.811 --> 00:49:13.985 Brand new official merch for the show is on our website, www oblivion bar podcast.com. 00:49:13.985 --> 00:49:14.496 Thank you. 00:49:14.496 --> 00:49:17.047 KXD studios for all of our oblivion bar art. 00:49:17.047 --> 00:49:19.539 He's at KXD graphics on Instagram. 00:49:19.539 --> 00:49:20.061 Thank you. 00:49:20.061 --> 00:49:23.052 Dream kit for all of our musical themes. 00:49:23.052 --> 00:49:23.434 Thank you. 00:49:23.434 --> 00:49:25.244 DJ sky vac for our grid theme. 00:49:25.244 --> 00:49:30.909 And last but not least, do not forget to tip your damn bartenders. 00:49:31.277 --> 00:49:32.557 20 % or more. 00:49:32.557 --> 00:49:33.818 Anybody in the surface. 00:49:33.898 --> 00:49:36.418 20 % or more. 00:49:36.418 --> 00:49:38.637 20 % is the bare minimum, folks. 00:49:38.637 --> 00:49:38.898 All right. 00:49:38.898 --> 00:49:40.057 Thank you so much. 00:49:40.057 --> 00:49:41.557 Hopefully you're praying for Aaron and I. 00:49:41.557 --> 00:49:42.668 currently at New York Comic Con. 00:49:42.668 --> 00:49:45.197 We need all the prayers that you can give us all the good energy. 00:49:45.197 --> 00:49:46.297 Give us a spirit bomb. 00:49:46.297 --> 00:49:46.648 Yeah. 00:49:46.648 --> 00:49:48.697 Give us a spirit bomb energy. 00:49:48.697 --> 00:49:51.478 Lend me your energy. 00:49:51.697 --> 00:49:52.797 Zenzubeen. 00:49:53.057 --> 00:49:53.568 All right, everybody. 00:49:53.568 --> 00:49:54.398 Thank you so much. 00:49:54.398 --> 00:49:58.478 We will see you for day three of New York Comic Con and Interview-a-thon and... 00:49:58.478 --> 00:49:59.498 gas mask. 00:49:59.498 --> 00:49:59.818 All right. 00:49:59.818 --> 00:50:00.693 See you, everybody.