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We're staying in the same division this time and going
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with the Portland Trailblazers. There is the question of, okay, well,
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what does the Ja Morant fit look like? Right now,
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it's like you said with the Timberwolves and the Meadow.
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It feels like a love fest off the court in general.
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My actual question, though, is what does Denny Avdia look
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like on the version of this team? Because he was
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so high volume last year. Mike Inori has said, that
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his role isn't going to change that much, but you
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can't move John Moran. You can move Damian Lillard off
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the ball. And we saw some like Damian Lillard to
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John Moran back to Damian load.
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Okay.
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Maybe you can do some of that stuff. How do
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you keep Denny at an all-star level on the offensive
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end while also incorporating all these other moving parts? I
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think we've seen hints of it so far, and I'm
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a little feeling a little bit better about it where it's,
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can you get him the ball? coming around a screen
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and the advantage is already being created rather than needing
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him to start every possession and just get downhill and
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create his own advantages. I just, there might be a
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limit to how much you could do that. I'm, this
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might be more of an overarching question for their offense,
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but when you look at what Denny Avdia did last year,
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when he was basically top 15 in.
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Touches per game, I believe he was up there.
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One of the league leaders, just how many drives per game,
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Did he have last season? He ended up ranking what
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in that category? He was top. He wasn't top 10
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in drives per game. That's got to be wrong.
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Oh, he's first. Yeah. All right. 27.8 drives per.
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I was looking too low. 27.8 drives per game. That's insane.
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That number just has to come down by virtue of
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look at all these other options around him.
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What I do think will.
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is that Scoot has gotten more used to playing
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off the ball. uh, Damian Lord, we know he's never
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played off the ball a ton, but he just has
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a skillset where it's, Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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So it's, I guess the question is what is the
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Denny Avdia John Moran dynamic is the push and pull
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trying to stagger them or what do they look like together?
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I'm a little bit higher on the blazers still figuring
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out a way to keep Denny off retained any obvious
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prominence within the offense. But this is not a team where,
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you know, if you're worried about, we're talking about new
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fits and formations, are you more worried about Minnesota? figuring
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it out or about portland figuring it all out i
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just feel like lamello is more likely to augment the
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strengths of the team around him more so than the
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job would be in portland we'll have to see it
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play out though but i am i'm a little bit
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more optimistic about denny avdia being able to be a
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key cog in the offense just if you can put
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him in those situations that i referenced earlier.
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I'm generally skeptical of this team this year, despite the
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fact that they made it to the playoffs. I am
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not an optimist for the Blazers this year. It's not
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just the John Moran acquisition and the glut of guards
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and what the hell they're going to do there and
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the fit. It's also ownership because it feels as though
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when Tom Dunn came in and just started firing people
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all around, I just don't, I refuse to believe that
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that instills confidence in the members in an organization to
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this extent. I suspect that a lot of people within
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the organization are watching their backs all the time because
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they kind of know, all right, we can be out
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in our asses at any given point. That to me
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is something that can completely implode a team from within
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because you You can say it's all about the players.
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It's just not. And NBA organizations are huge now. And
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it's by design. And everyone knows each other. And if
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you're walking on eggshells, if things are bad inside the organization,
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if there are bad vibes going, then it doesn't matter
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how good your players are. That will just spread like wildfire.
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I am very skeptical of the players being a good
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team this year for us. Primarily non-basketball reasons. Like, don't
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get me wrong. I have my questions here. I really do.
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I don't like the John Moran fit. I still wonder
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what the hell the plan is for all their guards.
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Shaden Sharp, I like him as a theoretical shooting guard,
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but in practice, I'm still struggling with his so-so shooting
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capabilities and feel for the game.
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Well, he's out for like six months or whatever. So
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you're not even going to get an answer on that.
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Right. But like, even when he's healthy, I'm just not
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like someone, I don't consider him all that reliable. Yeah.
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I honestly, if let's assume the vibes within the organization
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are great. I think to me, the biggest boost to
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change my outlook would be a huge year three of
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Donovan Klingon, because I think that just moves the needle
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a whole bunch. And given that he's also begun shooting
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a three ball, that should also allow Denning to have
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a little bit more room and space. But to answer
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your original point or question in regards to the stagnation
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or not stagnation, stackering after you and Morant. Yes, I
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would do that very, very much. I would not prioritize
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minutes between the two whatsoever.
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And there is like a case to be made that,
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you know, Denning not having to drive the ball 30
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times a game might be a good thing for just
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like he had the back problems last year. But I'm
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just so curious to see how it all comes together.
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Are we done with– let me make sure. No, we
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have one more team left in the Northwest. It's your team,
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the Utah Jazz.
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The Jazz. So this is very specific. And you're going
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to just sigh because you know where I'm going with this.
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Are they good enough on the glass? Because, again, this
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is a team that went out and said, look, part
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of our long-term– front line is Lauren Markkinen and Jaron
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Jackson Jr. Both are poor rebounders. Markkinen was slightly better
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than Jaron Jackson Jr., granted, but none of them are
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plus rebounders. You are looking at a situation where there's
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no longer a Walker Kesselbrook. Granted, he didn't play a
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whole lot last year. It was five games he managed
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before he got injured. Yusuf Nurkic, they kept around, but
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he's injured for a little bit as well. I just
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want to know what they're going to do if they
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consistently find themselves out rebounded on the defensive class offensive
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class because like if you if you can offensive rebound
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on a team consistently you stand a pretty good chance
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of beating them because you're optimizing possessions i need the
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jazz to become a better rebounding team i need to
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figure out where is that additional rebounding going to come
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from because jaron jackson jr is not someone i trust
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in the class market in He can go get a board,
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but you can't really ask him to do it and
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be sure he does it. So, like, he's fine-ish. I
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just need to know what the hell their plan is
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in that department.
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Jackson Hayes, Mo Bamba, and ask Ace Bailey to do it,
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I think, at this point.
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Well, I mean, how many minutes– well, Ace is going
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to play, but how many minutes are those guys going
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to get? And is it going to be enough?
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That's kind of like– Jackson Hayes is going to have
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to play a whole bunch at this point now.
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Yeah, I mean, he would have to, but do you
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trust him? Like, really? No, this team on the glass
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is going to.
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I'm at the point where, especially with Nurkic injured, you
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might as well just... Maybe you don't want to put
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this on his shoulders, the wear and tear, but why
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isn't Jaron Jackson Jr. just playing more minutes at the
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five than ever? Really ratchet up the offense at that point.
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And then your defensive versatility will be through the roof.
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So this is.
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Now a team where a good question would be, When
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do they go out and try and trade for a
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big man? Not make this all in swing, but when
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are they going to put first round equity on the
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table to upgrade from Nurkic, Hayes, Filipowski, that trio? I
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have no idea how good they're going to be. You
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could talk me into any range of outcomes for the Jazz.
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They're another team.
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I think we're all intrigued by these teams this time
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of year.
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At the same time, they're Justin.
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When they still had Walker Kessler on the roster, I
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was getting ready to say some pretty inflammatory things about them.
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And then you move him and I under, I understand
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why they did. I can't even criticize them for accepting
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that trade, but it fundamentally changed the, the outlook of
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their team and even the makeup a little bit. Cause
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the appeal was we get to play super huge. And
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then we still have like these like multiple defensive anchors.
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And now it's, you could still play super huge, but
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you have one defensive anchor and that's in Jared Jackson jr.
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So, they would be a team.
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That I would put on the radar as if there's
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like a big man, again, not, not going for first
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round picks or a big, but if someone ambles their
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way on a chopping block, is it a, is he
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helping rebounding enough? Would they take a flyer? He's kind
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of a rebounding machine. That'd be a nice fit here.
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But yeah, I'm wondering when they're going to upgrade center rotation.
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And who
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Are you just making a draft-oriented package, or are you
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dangling the Josh Green deal plus a young guy? Like,
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what are you looking at? Yes, all of the above.
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I mean, you have, what are they? They're 20, they
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don't want to go into tax.
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We'll say they're about $ 19. 9 million below the tax. They
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just have all sorts of flexibility that they could use.
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Once they're trade eligible, like Josh Akogi, Jackson Hayes, those
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salaries slide into wherever even the nurkic salary at 11
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and a half million bucks yeah josh green's a good
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one uh at 14.7 so i'm not i'm probably not
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going all in unless it because if this team is
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gangbusters without a big you're probably not good you're probably
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not going all in but i would make i would
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be semi-aggressive i don't i'm trying to think of who's
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the biggest name that would catch my like if i'm
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the jazz for what they would cost i don't think
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Jared Allen might be the guy. I just don't see
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his pathway to becoming available in Cleveland mid season.
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Yeah. Not after the Peyton Watson acquisition as well in Cleveland.
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Like they have to go with that lineup and see what,
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what actually figures out there. Uh, who could that be? I,
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I don't have one.
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There's like, yeah, that's a Wendell Carter jr. Maybe, but
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that's not like, I don't know if that's a Eves
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Meecy would be like a lower end solution, but again,
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he's not going to be the best.
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Let's pair up Wendell Carter jr. And Lauren marketing it again,
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because that worked out so well.
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The first, uh, Isaiah Stewart or Zach Eadie. Like, what
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is Memphis doing?
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I was actually thinking of Zach Eady right before, but
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I was like, they tried that at Memphis with Jaron
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and him. Like, it was fine.
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To be fair, Zach Eady was just never healthy. He wasn't,
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and he's like an extraordinarily good rebounder. This is just,
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you get to a point, though, where it's, you don't
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want to be too reliant on him, but Steven Adams
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would be a good addition to this team.
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Yeah. How many minutes can he even handle at this stage?
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Well, if you're going to play pepper in some Jaron
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Jackson Jr. at the five, I think it could work out.
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Daniel Gafford would be fine, but that's not a move
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that moves the needle for me.
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I agree with that. No, it wouldn't.
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I already mentioned Musa Diabate. That'd be a name I'm
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looking at. Back and forth on Yaka Okungwu. I think
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for the cost that it would take to get him
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out of Atlanta, do you think, because he's not the
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biggest big, It's like 610 or whatever.
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He's gotten better as a rebounder. He's a great shooter. Yeah,
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he's become a really good shooter. If he's available, I
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would do it. Yeah, also because the financial commitment from
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Okonkwo isn't substantial. He's earning, what, in the $ 16- $ 17
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million range a year? It's really pedestrian compared to what
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it should be.
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I think he's probably... There's not much time left on
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that deal, though. Yeah, he has this season and then
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one more.
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you have a starting big at under 10% of the
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salary cap in the next two seasons.
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That's a, that is just so, yeah, I mean, this
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isn't about Atlanta at all, but like their cap situation,
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I fricking love it.
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There are another, well, we're not on the Eastern conference.
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We are done with, we are done with the Northwest.
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So if we're going Pacific division, we're onto the sons,
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which I believe.
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They were your team. Yes, this is a big one.
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What even is a realistic expectation for, season. I have
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looked at this team in so many different positions and
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just can't figure them out, Dan. I don't know
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what they're trying to do. They still have Jalen Green
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on the roster. They traded for Miles Bridges, a guy
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who was very much an empty stats guy in Charlotte.
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Booker is still there just kind of ho-humming his way
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to another year of being slightly overrated, if you ask me.
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Are they going to finally give some time to come
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on Maluach? I think so. But are they going to
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stick with it throughout the course of a long season?
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Do they trust Koopi to do anything spacing-wise? What about
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Ryan Dunn's development? Are we going to return to that
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at some point? What are they doing here? What can
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we realistically expect from this team? I find it so
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difficult to get a read on what they are and
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what they're trying to achieve. Yeah.
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What makes you think, so do you view Devin Booker
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as overrated or just overpaid?
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What makes Devin Booker overrated? So, well, I mean, I
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think the way that we look at it is, and
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I will, I will say slightly, it's not like, I
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think he's, you know, all overrated. So like in a
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perverse extent, But I think, for example, I think we've
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glorified his shooting capabilities. I think he's a much worse
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shooter than what we actually are as an NBA society
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willing to admit. And I just honestly, I wonder whether
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he's the ceiling raiser that we all kind of pecked
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him as a few years ago. He made the trip
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to the finals and he was instrumental. He was wonderfully
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good that year. Ever since, you know, he's been good.
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But is he really a franchise caliber player or is
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he more of like a secondary? And I think we
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packed him as a guy who can lead a team.
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I don't think that is necessarily true. And that's not
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to say he's a great player or that he shouldn't
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be an all-star or occasionally an all-NBA type of player.
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But I just don't think he's the guy you
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something around as the main piece.
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I think the contract could be problematic i don't necessarily
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know what the sons's other options were but i think
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really the issue with him is that they've over saddled
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him with he needs to be their best passer and
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best score which that's there are how many guys who
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can who fit that bill in the league realistically is
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it you.
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It's shay.
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Luca yoke in there he has your best score but
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like so i can't fault him for that this feels
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like flawed roster construction. And he just seems happy to
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be there and get paid, which is fine. But I
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actually think he's become a little too underrated for my taste.
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Cause his passing actually is really underrated.
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Yeah. Okay, cool. I look, I mean, look, you and
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I don't necessarily disagree all that often. So I like this.
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It's nice. All right, cool. My question for them would
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be how many you're right.
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I don't understand the direction because giving up a 2033
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unprotected first round pick in the miles bridges trade is
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insinuates that this team is trying to win now, but
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you don't do that unless win now means content. Now
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to me, you don't give up that type of an asset.
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They're not, you want to talk yourself into them. Try
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harding their way to top six in the West.
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Fine. Cool. I don't know if that's going.
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To fly this year just because of how they'll be
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more teams trying. And the sons were among the teams
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that feasted on really bad opponents last year.
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I think they were, we double check this. They were
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24 and seven.
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Against teams below. 500, and then they were against teams
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that had a. 500 record or better,. 21 and.
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30.
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So the easier wins might not be there as much.
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I do, and also, will teams be as caught off
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guard by,
whoa, their wings are crashing the offensive glass,
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and look at how hard they play on the defensive end.
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My question to you is, how many games does Common
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Model Watch start? If it was me, it'd be 82.
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It's very clearly... He starts one preseason game, grabs like
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a trillion boards. I'm just, this isn't, I won't call myself,
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I was a common model watch guy from the beginning,
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but now that I am a common model watch guy, it's,
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it needs to be like, he is the, even more
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so than Booker. If you're trying to get excited about
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this team's future, he is the guy. And so the
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Mark Williams injury, I think opens the door for it.
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They'll probably start. Oh, so they did in two preseason
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games as we're recording this, but I don't know if
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I set, this is kind of spoiling something Grant and
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I are about to talk about. If I set like
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the over under or honor before Christmas, common model watches
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star is the starting center for the Phoenix suns. Are
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you taking before or after Christmas.
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Before? So will I, I don't know if that's going
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to end up being what happens, but yeah, no, I will.
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And I was, I was a model watch guy coming
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into the draft last year as well. So like, I,
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I've just kind of been waiting for them to, to
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give him a shot. But like, we also know, that
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Phoenix is notoriously not anti draft specifically, but like they
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are just not that interested in young players. And we
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finally seen a shift recently, which is great, but they
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also have to follow up and make the investment of
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actually putting them on the floor. I, that's important when
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you're trying.
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I think if there was ever a worry that they
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wouldn't there, it, put him on the floor, he's one,
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made himself undeniable, and two, the Mark Williams injury just
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kind of ensures, okay, what else? There's Oso, and then
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what else are you doing at that point? Are you
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going with Wap Reef? I love Wap Reef, but you're
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not playing him over Common Model Watch?
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No, I wouldn't say. Yeah, agreed. Is he even going
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to make the roster?
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Well, that's the other question, too. That might be an
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answer by the time this releases. Let's... We're still in
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the Pacific. We're on to the Warriors, which I believe
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was my team. I was struggling coming up with a
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question for them. The easy one is how many games
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does Steph, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond and Christoph Porzingis play
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in together?
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Honestly, that's a real question.
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Jimmy Butler's not coming back until after the calendar turns
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to 2027. We don't know what's going on with Christoph
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Porzingis as you and I talk about this right now.
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I don't even know what to set the over-under at
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for them. If I put it at 19 and a half,
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games of those four playing together. Are you taking the
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over or the under?
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I want to be optimistic, so I'm going to say
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the over, but I'm not going to feel great about it.
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I don't want to wish injuries or bad health on anyone,
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so I want to be optimistic on that one, but
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I understand the question, which is just in and of
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itself horrible.
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The actual question I settled on, though, how good is
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Yaxo Lendeborg going to be right It seems like he's
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going to play a bunch. The Warriors, they're not running
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as much offense through Draymond Green, which I think then
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is going to open up more opportunities for touches to
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basically everyone until Jimmy Butler comes back. Is there a
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chance that Yaxel, we look back, fast forward like 25
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games of the season, and we look back and say,
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Yaxel Lindenberg is like the Warriors' second most important offensive player.
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Yeah, I think that is within the realm of possibility.
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I mean, we knew coming out, That he was very seasoned.
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He's also one of the older rookies. And what is
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he listed at? He's got to be bigger.
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The way he gets to the basket with his dribbles,
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he just has to be bigger.
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Wait, what is he listed at? Isn't he like 6'8, 6'9?
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This guy looks like he's 6'11, to me, when he's
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dribbling the basketball. He's listed at 6'9, on NBA.com. Yeah,
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I call BS.
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I'm going minimum 6'10 1⁄2. He just looks so huge. Look, NBA.com
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also has the pre-draft measurements.
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Look, he's 6'9. He just looks a lot bigger than 6'9.
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And so there's the questions with the shooting for him,
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but his ability to put the ball on the floor,
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work his way to the teeth of the defense, that
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might be someone who gets the foul line a ton,
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can put some pressure on the basket, two things that
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actually is really only one thing they lost with Jimmy Butler.
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He's not getting to the rim nearly as often as
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he used to. Just maybe someone can get up and
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down the floor in transition and is spraying the ball around.
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There is some defensive malleability there. I don't know if
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I view him as like the A1 defender who could
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guard a ton on the ball. But this Warriors season,
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I feel like lacks purpose. And Jax and Lindenberg is
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kind of just, if you want to get excited about,
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sort of what I said about Common Model Watch, if
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you want to kind of peek into the Warriors' future
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and try to get excited about it, him just being
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awesome would be the way to do it. And I
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think he's going to have the opportunity at least. Maybe, again,
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my question is how good is he? But I don't
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think we're going to look back and say, oh, the
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Warriors didn't give him enough minutes. It seems like this
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dude is set up to play a bunch, and so
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we'll have some really valuable data collection on him from
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the onset.
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And I have the height here. Without shoes, 6'8.75. Yeah,
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that's bullshit. He's at least 7'1.
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At least 7'1. He just looks bigger than 6'8, 6'9,
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to me.
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Again, this is without shoes, so with shoes, you're looking
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at a guy who's probably 6'10 1⁄2, which isn't far off. Alright,
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there we go. Ball watcher over here. By the way, Mara,
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I for some reason thought that he was 7'3, with shoes.
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He was 7'3, without. That's just so massive. He.
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The way he was moving in summer league versus the
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way he's moved in preseason with the Thunder has been
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night and day to me. But yeah, not the Thunder section.
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Yaxo Lindenberg, I think he's going to make an all-rookie team.
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That's how high I am on him. And I think
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he's going to have the opportunity and usage to get there.
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And so I don't know.
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What that means for the Warriors in terms of the standings,
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but I think we're going to know how good or
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how not good Yaxel Enderborg is by the end of
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this season.
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Yeah. Same.
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Our final team in the Pacific is the Kings, which
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is holy.
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It's also me. So I, I want to ask this
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question and I'm genuinely curious.
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Does this team have a second long-term prospect on the roster?
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Because there's Darius Acuff, and a lot of people are
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kind of out on him already.
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They don't love the shot selection.
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When I was doing our Kings look-ahead and doing some
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extra film work on him, I was a little bit
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more impressed with his willingness to get into guys when
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he's going downhill. He is, for want of having any
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other option, the Kings' primary cornerstone at this point.
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But do they.
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I'm not asking for them to have another star in waiting,
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but of everyone else on the roster, can you point
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to someone and say, this... Who's most likely to be
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on the Kings
in two years? The answer's got to
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be Keegan Murray, right? And are they going to carve
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out the runway necessary to explore the depths of his offense,
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which has been all over the place since he's come
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into the league?
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See, I thought you were asking about prospects. Well, he's,
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I meant more of like a long-term player.
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If you thought Sabonis needed to be here for like
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the next three years, you could pick him. The answer
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almost needs to be Keegan Murray, if you're talking prospect,
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it's what? It's Nick Clifford or Maxime Reynaud or Dylan Cardwell?
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It's Maxime Reynaud after Agoff, yes.
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Oh, my hot take is Dylan Cardwell is better than
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Maxime Reynaud.
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I don't know if he falls into your prospect.
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Emmanuel Sharp is there, and he's kind of like a
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defensive menace.
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So I'm just curious.
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Keegan Murray, though, to me, feels more like someone who
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will eventually be moved. I wouldn't say this season, but
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I don't know if he's... If you ask me, is
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he on.
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The Kings in.
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for the start of the 2028 and 2029 season, I think,
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I don't know if the answer is yes, but are
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you confident? Who are you confident and also saying is
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still going to be on the Kings at that point then?
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Aside from Darius Acuff. Are we even sure that Acuff
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is being, like, look.
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The Kings trade him for like Trey Young or somebody.
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They decided to go that route.
503
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I mean, look, they traded Halliburton fairly soon into his career.
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So I'm just curious as to who the, Who the
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second most important long-term player is in Sacramento? The easy
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answer is Keegan Murray. I think the Kings, based on
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what they paid him, need that to be the right answer.
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Yes.
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I don't know if it's necessarily the answer, though.
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I mean, you should, because there isn't really any other alternative, right?
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Who should that be?
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I think some people might say, I mean, he avoided
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disaster with that knee injury, would say Maxime Reynaud.
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But I don't know. What is the final form of
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Maxime Reynaud?
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What is the NBA comp or the caliber of NBA
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player he turns into?
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Is he what Alex Lennon should have been? God. Wasn't
519
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Alex Lennon supposed to be good defensively? Yeah. Alex Lennon
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was supposed to be a beast.
521
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Maxime Reynaud, that's not going to be his final form.
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I can't imagine him ever getting to.
523
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So is he just going to be Alex Lennon? I
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mean this with all due... all due respect, is his
525
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final form Mamu? Like, that's who you want? That would
526
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not be a bad thing. That's a bad thing. But
527
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as Mamu, as your second most important player. No, no, no. Yeah.
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That's a problem.
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Yeah.
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But like, I think, but that's, that's kind of outside
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of his control, you know, if the organization. Oh, I'm
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not getting. Yeah. Right.
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And like Maxime, you know, I don't know if he'll
534
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ever have like the pure driving that Mamu does, but
535
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he's got the feathery floater. I expect him to just
536
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the three, like have three point range. I just, the
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answer needs to be Keegan Murray. And so the follow-up
538
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question would be what, How do they use him on
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offense this year? Because this also applies to Darius Acuff.
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You have Sabonis, Levine, and Monk on this team. They're
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just a bunch of veterans. And that was the other
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question that I had penciled in was, how does Doug
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Christie handle playing veterans versus youthful development? And I think
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that Sabonis can be an additive for guys like, I
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really do, Darius Acuff, even Keegan Murray.
546
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I don't know about Zach Levine in theory, the way
547
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he plays.
548
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Sure. I don't
think Malik monk hurts development, but I
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don't know that he helps it. So it's, if they're trying,
550
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if they're closing a game and trying to win, my
551
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preference would be anyone who matters beyond this season needs
552
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to be on the floor. It's like, that's a cuff.
553
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That's that's Ray. No, that's throw manual sharp into that
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knee Clifford. So that's, that's a bunch of questions on
555
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the Kings that I think, orbit around the same dilemma,
556
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which is who is important moving forward? And we know
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Darius Acuff is. Aside from him, who do they view as?
558
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Building blocks is such a loaded term because it implies stardom,
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but it can also just mean this guy is someone
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we are planning to keep around who is going to
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help us drive our vision of the future. So I'm
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going to settle on Keegan Murray, but is that who
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you would settle on?
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I think it's who we will need to settle on.
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Because when you're looking at this roster, you're not... Okay,
566
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who's number three then? Maybe that's the better question. I
567
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want to make a Ben Simmons joke so badly. That's
568
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the other thing.
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If Ben Simmons is starting, and then so she's like,
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what does that say about how they're going to juggle
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veterans versus development?
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So if I had to pick a third.
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I think I probably still would wind up on Nick Clifford,
574
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but you could talk me into Dylan Cardwell.
575
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I'm just Dylan Cardwell. He was good for them last year.
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He was.
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What would be the worst spacing lineups the Kings could?
578
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So it'd be precious. Ben Simmons, Dylan Cardwell. Who else?
579
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I guess. Right.
580
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Well, that's like, are we playing some bonus with precious
581
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and Dylan Cardwell?
582
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That wouldn't realistically. All right. Fair enough. All right. You're right. No,
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it would have. So manual sharp. Probably throw in there. Yeah.
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And then I guess like no one else.
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It can't be Keegan Murray. He's like the closest thing
586
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this team or DeAndre Hunter. It's not going to be
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one of those guys. It would be the worst shooting
588
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lineup that we could see the Kings fielding.
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Alex. Yeah. So I'm going to go. Okay. Shooter. But like, yeah. Yeah.
590
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We'll go. We'll go. We have to go Simmons. Mm hmm. Cardwell. Yeah. Sharp. Sharp. Precious. Yeah.
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And.
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Oh, Alfred Payton's on the payroll. Still. He's not going
593
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to make the roster. Oh, here. Here it is. This
594
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is the one. Daquan Plowden. That's how we wrap it up.
595
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There we go. I could see. Honestly.
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That lineup might not be bad defensively, though. It'd be
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a pretty good defensive lineup, I think.
598
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It wouldn't squeeze out a lot of points, though. Ben Simmons,
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I don't know, man. The righty hook. The righty hook.
600
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Getting in the basket. Has he figured out he's right-handed yet? Look,
601
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Kings fans can't be mad.
602
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I'm wearing the Hardwood Knox branded Kings shirt, so I
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wish nothing but the best for Kings fans.
604
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Right off the top, yeah. So your third pick would
605
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be after Keegan Murray. Is it? I honestly think Nick
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Clifford because of like he's a wing and he's got
607
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a little bit of everything. But it's it's not it's
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not something I feel overwhelmingly secure about.