Full Transcript for 'Mummaxxing', Molly Mae's Daughter's Headlock Drama & Paddling Pool Nachos

security guards. Excuse me, sir. Oh, sorry, madam. I was like, excuse me? The best bit was you're walking around with a bluey backpack on. Because I was with you when he said that and I analysed your outfit, but I don't quite understand how he got confused. Well, actually, I was wearing men's pants because I was wearing the Adidas tracksuit pants, which Kate has informed me are actually men's pants. So, Mr. Security Guard, that's okay. You've misgendered me. It's fine. It really makes you feel good about yourself, though, when an incident like that happens and it's, you know, fills your confidence up. Thank you so much for that. The cherry on top of the cake of this trip was when we were like, oh, let's just bring all the lads dinner. We'll feed them all together. We'll go get a coffee or a soft drink. We actually ended up at Betty's Burgers. Stupidly, we didn't order as soon as we sat down and ended up waiting like 45 minutes for hot chips. I thought that's what you guys were doing. I had rushed off to the parents' room with all three boys' meals to heat them up in the microwave. I thought it was obvious that you guys were meant to order food. I came back, no drinks, nothing. We sat around for 40 minutes waiting for a hot chip's They obviously run off their feet. I love Betty's burgers. It was our fault. There was no shade at all. It was our stupidity for not ordering. I have never inhaled chips quicker in my whole life. We had to get up because all three kids by this stage were beside themselves screaming. And the only way to stop them screaming was to have some movement in their prams. And we ended up putting them in a circle facing each other whilst we had our backs turned to them scarfing the chips. And we had to say that they were very, very spicy because your toddler, Kate, he wanted to get a hold of some of them. Oh, I was like, we need to stand behind Jack and make sure he doesn't see what we're eating because he's going to want them. Actually, that reminds me, Kate, I saw this TikTok the other day and it made me think of you. Because whilst Sophia and I do have toddlers, I feel like we're at different toddler stages. Like you're in the trenches. Oh, I'm in the tantrum stage. So a woman put on the video of her eating an Oreo and she wrote, sometimes when my toddler is being extra mean, I eat a cookie in front of him and tell him he can't have any to show him who's boss. Now this really divided the comment section. Some argued that it was very childish to do this while others said it was fantastic. My favorite comment read, That's so immature. I love it. I'll be doing this tomorrow, which got 47.9 thousand likes. I just don't get why you would do that. Wouldn't that make them have a tantrum even more? Like, isn't that just like rage baiting your toddler? I think he was having one anyway. So she thought, what the hell? UK influencer Molly May is back in the headlines after revealing her three-year-old daughter Bambi put someone in a headlock during a visit to Pizza Express. Let's take a listen to what she said. 00:05:16 Speaker 3: All I'm going to say is that I thought Bambi was out of her aggressive era. 00:05:19 Speaker 2: I was very wrong. 00:05:22 Speaker 1: And headlocks were put in place, not by me, by her. 00:05:29 Speaker 3: It should have been by me. 00:05:31 Speaker 1: Honestly, it was bad. Now, Molly gave this update on her YouTube, but as people do, someone's clipped it up and put it on TikTok and it's been viewed 3.6 million times. The top comment on the video was, Furia name, Fury by Nature, which got 85,000 likes. Another popular comment was, imagine being put in a headlock by Bambi Fury at Pizza Express, which got 80,000 likes. Now, other people questioned how she knew how to put a kid in a headlock. It's pretty obvious. Surely she's seen Tommy and also her uncle Tyson in the boxing ring. Well, for people who are not aware, her dad is Tommy Fury, the brother of Tyson Fury. They are a very well-known boxing family. In fact, Tyson was the heavyweight champion of the world. I just love how much TikTok loves Bambi Fury. And I don't just mean women, like grown men have such respect for her. Well, TikToker Ben Oak, who has over 50,000 followers, said that Bambi is the answer to nature versus nurture. Let's take a listen to what he said. 00:06:30 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm back on this Bambi, Molly Mae thing. I genuinely think Bambi might be the answer to a very long, long debate. Nature versus nurture. Because here's the thing, I don't think Molly Mae is in the house putting on Roman Reigns and like jumping from the top of the stairs. Like, trying to RKO, like, Fury. I think this is genuine a case of Bambi's got them genes. Like, you know how, like, men can have, like, an extra Y chromosome that makes them more prone to, like, violence and aggression? I think Bambi's got that. Makes her more like, you know, she just got that. She got that je ne sais quoi for anger and violence. But I love it. Here's the thing. I love it. I'm not mad at it. I'm not saying that sitting here thinking, oh my God, she's the worst thing to ever happen. I'm saying that sitting here thinking that when I procreate, I find myself a fury so that my first youth can go around batting off people's noses and putting children in headlocks. Some people have children that can recite the nine times table. Some people have children that can speak Punjabi forwards and backwards. I don't want a kid that can put up a kid in headlocks. 00:07:34 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's cunt. Yeah, this of course comes off the back of Molly opening up late last year about a biting pandemic that happened at Bambi's daycare. So Molly revealed at the time that Bambi had bitten a number of children as well as came home with bites herself. Apparently that's pretty common in childcare. Harry likes to bite, so I can see how common this would be. It is the worst feeling ever when your child bites another child. I mean, Harry's only

bitten your children, but I can't... Oh no, actually he has He also likes pulling hair. Maybe he's got a bit of fighter in him. I actually really feel for Molly Mae because this is a very normal thing that children do. As you said, I've spoken to daycare mums and they're like, oh, my God, yeah, everyone bites each other there. Hopefully not the educators. It's just gone viral because Molly keeps posting these hilarious clips of Bambi. Like there was one where she was listing off other children that she wanted to bite. Let's actually throw to it. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: I'm going to bite someone. 00:08:34 Speaker 2: Oh, no, no. I'm going to bite your way. No, we don't use our mouth to bite, do we? 00:08:41 Speaker 3: What do we use our mouth for? 00:08:42 Speaker 1: For food. 00:08:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, for food, for eating. 00:08:47 Speaker 1: We bite our food. 00:08:49 Speaker 2: Don't bite anyone. We bite Emily. 00:08:54 Speaker 1: No. We bite this way. No. 00:08:58 Speaker 3: No. No, I don't know why I'm laughing at that. We bite croissants. 00:09:05 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:09:06 Speaker 3: We bite pasta. 00:09:08 Speaker 2: No. 00:09:09 Speaker 3: We bite pizza. 00:09:10 Speaker 1: This video, again, sparked so many different parodies and I feel like people have created this persona online of what Bambi must really be like even though she clearly is just a normal three-year-old. I love that Molly's like, we bite croissants and we bite donuts. Also the fact that everyone thought she said, want to bite Dory, but it was actually her friend's story. But then there were all these memes of like Dory from Finding Nemo and even I think it was Heinz, the baked bean brand, they sent different baked beans with the kids' names on it and one said Dory and they said they could eat the baked beans instead of biting each other. I wonder how Bambi will feel about this when she's, because, I mean, it's all fun and games now, but I feel like this would be deeply embarrassing for this to be your digital footprint. I think she will have such a cult following by the time she hits like 18. She might be. be worried about it. I think the vision of her toilet training is probably worse than this. I was going to say Bambi might be like Venezuela. eerie where she just has like a massive TikTok. Yeah, she'll take it in her stride. All jokes aside, I really did enjoy this vlog Molly shared because it's the second time that she's given us an update since her son Midas was born two months ago. And you could tell she's really in the thick of it. She said that she was trying to keep her head above water. And she also mentioned Midas has reflux and she spoke about how she'd forgotten her what a state of fight or flight you're in when you have a newborn. And it really just took me back to that time. My favorite part was that she keeps walking around the house with this massive iPad, which she's got her baby monitor on. And she was saying that a lot of people say with your second child, you've got to forget about the routine that goes out the window. And she's like, I will not forget about the routine. I need my children to sleep. And I couldn't relate to that more because I have been an absolute stickler for the routine. She also mentioned that she had recently I think they traveled three hours to go on a bit of a family holiday with her side. It was to stay at her mom's house. Yeah. And she said that she's in this dark room trying to get Midas to sleep while everyone else is outside having a barbecue. And she was like, is it worth it? Oh, that was so relatable. I've been there so many times and you're like, it seems so fun out where everyone else is and you just can't be out there. Well, she also said how originally she had thought once she had Midas that looking after the newborn was easier than looking after a toddler. But now I think reality sunk in of just like how intense the newborn routine is that she's like, give me toddlers. Well, it's probably because he's woken up to the world. I also think a part of that is she said that she thought that they were going to spend all this lovely family time, the four of them together, but she's realized that having two kids is all about dividing and conquering. So it sounds like Tommy's been off with Bambi and they're probably going out to the park and getting out into the sunshine and she's at home trying to do this sleep routine. No wonder Bambi's trying to box on with everyone. She's been spending so much time with her dad. Another thing I found really relatable was the fact that Molly May said that at a six week checkup, she got her obstetrician to fit a coil and She was like, the last thing we need is another pregnancy. And then she also referenced that she thinks they're done at two children. Well, she's hinted that before. And according to The Sun, and take that with a grain of salt, but that comment has really set off Tommy Fury's family. So apparently a source close to the family was quoted as saying, there are also very different views about family and what the future should look like. And Molly's comments about not wanting any more children have gone down really badly. It becomes a real talking point within the family. I'm assuming this is from Tommy's dad, John, because he was rumoured to be telling the press the baby's name as well. I've been seeing snippets of this new podcast that Tommy and John are doing together and the tone that the father speaks about Molly, it's so clear that he doesn't like her. And this recent quote from an anonymous source comes off the back of The Sun reporting a couple of months ago that things were tense between Molly and Tommy's family. For those who don't know, Tommy's family are Irish travellers. So having a big family is really important culturally for them. His brother, Tyson Fury, and his wife, Paris, have seven children. So obviously they're like looking at Tommy and Molly and like, why do you only have two children? In contrast,

Molly's sister Zoe Ray was talking the other day on a YouTube about how she doesn't think she actually wants to have any children and a lot of people were saying oh this is because she's been hanging out with Bambi like she has seen the full effect of just how difficult it is to have a toddler but you know you've got to do what's right for you and just because Paris Fury has seven children it doesn't mean that's necessarily the right fit for Molly. Oh What an absolute nightmare having seven children. Yeah, I think that Molly's just being self-aware and going, well, two is my limit. I mean, I actually think that one was potentially her limit and she has had the second child for Tommy. Yeah, I feel like two was a push for her. Well, also the family are complaining that they don't see the kids enough. Talking about Tommy's family, he and his dad are also in hot water over some other comments they made about Kim Kardashian's parenting. on their podcast. So during an episode, they were quite judgmental about Kim for having a team of 10 staff to help her raise the four children that she shares with Kanye West. Let's actually throw to it. 00:14:17 Speaker 2: Ten nannies and mannies raising Kim Kardashian's kids. 00:14:21 Speaker 1: If you can't look after these kids yourself, don't have them. 00:14:24 Speaker 2: I mean, ten nannies. 00:14:25 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. 00:14:26 Speaker 1: In my family, there was a lot of us, and my mother looked after us all by herself. 00:14:31 Speaker 2: If you've got money, you can afford a nanny. 00:14:32 Speaker 1: Yeah, back in the day, you couldn't afford to do that. 00:14:34 Speaker 2: It's not a cheap thing, is it? 00:14:35 Speaker 3: No. 00:14:36 Speaker 2: Do you know who Kim Kardashian is? Yeah. I'm just going to see how many kids she has to warrant ten nannies. Sorry, mannies as well. 00:14:44 Speaker 1: Mannies and nannies, Christ. 00:14:45 Speaker 2: She's only got four kids. But they're not all working at the same time. They're kind of on like a rotation in shifts. I guess we don't know the full story though. Listen, do you know what it is? I'm all for having some help on board and help you out. It's like me and Molly, we have help, but we're with Bambi every day, all day. 00:15:02 Speaker 1: Well, I see that myself, don't I? 00:15:04 Speaker 2: It's only if I've got to go on a call or Molly's on a call or whatever like that, or we've got to shoot her out. The baby's looked after all the time. Yeah. But I don't understand people who just dump the kids with nannies and nannies all day and don't see it. 00:15:16 Speaker 1: Well, this is it, you know, and at the end of the day. 00:15:18 Speaker 2: I don't understand that. 00:15:19 Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Tommy would even comment on that, especially after the headlines that came out when the public discovered that he and Molly have a nanny for Bambi. It was pretty hypocritical and it also comes across as quite sexist. I mean, hey, Tommy, you left to go

do your boxing. You were at training camp when your first daughter Bambi was born. So it was okay for you to leave her alone. with your wife. Your sister-in-law had to step in and help out. But when Kim has got work on, I mean, Kim Kardashian is one of the most famous women in the world. She has so much work on. She's also studying law. Well, she's also a single mom now too. 00:15:51 Speaker 3: Exactly. 00:15:52 Speaker 1: So she's not allowed to have a nanny, but you are allowed to have a nanny when it suits you. It's a strange thing to die on when you actually have a nanny as well. And also no shade at Molly Mae, but somewhat of a secret nanny because, you know, they didn't want to admit that they had one. Well, they touched on that on her reality show. Yeah. Very, very strange. Listeners were quick to hit out at Tommy and they said that he didn't understand the mental load of being the primary caregiver. Some said the only difference between him and Kim was he was getting help from Molly's family for free. Another good point. One wrote, a man with a full-time nanny judging a woman with a full-time nanny. A new social media trend is encouraging mums to run their households like corporations. Mums are being encouraged to create mission statements for their homes and as well as hold weekly meetings with their partner to delegate household tasks. But many believe this intense desire to optimize every waking moment may be leading to burnout. I feel tired just thinking about it. Amy, can you tell us more about this trend? Yeah, so it's been labeled as mum maxing and it's being pushed by mummy influencers who are offering up Tips and tricks to show other mums how to be more organised. And it already annoys me from the get-go because it's not called parent maxing. It's mum maxing. It's on the mum to do it. Yeah, so in these videos you see mums stocking up the fridge, of course, with homemade meals. They also have these beautiful pristine homes and they undertake postpartum workouts while spending as much time with their kids as humanly possible. 00:17:20 Speaker 3: That's right. 00:17:20 Speaker 1: You've got to get it all done whilst giving your kids 100% attention because that is– Completely possible. Now, I do think that a lot of the mums posting this content have good intentions because they are trying to show other mums how to be more organised. But a lot of critics are saying this is putting pressure on mums to be perfect and it's leading to unrealistic standards. What do you think? Because you've been telling me that these videos have been showing up in your For You page and it's actually motivated you. It's not so much mum maxing videos. It's more I'm on the side of clean talk at the moment and decluttering. So I'm getting a lot of tips on how to keep a home clean, which sadly seems to align with being a stay at home mom and looking after your kid, because unfortunately a lot of that seems to fall on you if you are the primary caregiver at home. So I have found doing things like a load of laundry every day and making sure all the dishes in the kitchen is clean whilst my son is eating breakfast. I found little things like that really helped my day, but I don't know if I would call it mum maxing. 00:18:24 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:18:25 Speaker 1: I just think the mum maxing content makes you feel like shit though. Cause like, for instance, there was this one video of a pregnant woman who has a toddler and she was telling her followers how she wakes up at 4am every day. So she'll go on a run. She'll do two loads of washing. Then she'll make breakfast for herself, her husband and the kid. and clean the house. And this is all while her husband and toddler are sleeping. Oh, it's that old thing. It's like, get up before your kids do it. It's like, why the fuck would I do that? If that was me, by the time it was five o'clock, I would fucking hate everyone. I'd hate the world. I would not be a pleasant person to be around. See, I would much rather relax at night when my son goes to sleep. I'd like to unwind, have my dinner, watch TV, rather than going to bed as soon as my kid goes to bed and then waking up to do exercise. I know. It's how he is. Have you seen those TikToks where it's like, the stay at home mom, or sometimes they don't even have kids and they get up early to make breakfast for their husband. And it's like, they pack them in all these little bags and it's some gourmet cuisine. I'm like, what? Yeah. I hate that content. Like, can't the husband make his own fucking sandwich? I mean, a lot of people are pushing this really unrealistic standard on women. I enjoy the content where moms actually show off what the houses look like after a day of being home with their kids. When it's like, welcome to my house. Yeah. They're walking around. 00:19:45 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:19:45 Speaker 1: And everything's just completely trashed. I mean, as it should be. I mean, that's the other concern a lot of people say, well, if you're too busy maximizing and optimizing every moment of your day, are you truly being in the moment with your child? Or are you just worried about what the aesthetics of your home look like? This is the issue with social media. We never used to know what people's houses looked like. There wasn't all this pressure on our moms back in the 90s because you know, you'd only really see someone's house if you visited it and they probably had done a tidy up before you came. I really also don't like the term mum maxing because for a lot of us mums, we're in survival mode. We're not about optimising the mum experience. We're just about getting through the day. So if you look at this content and you think, oh, I'm failing, you're not. Literally, this is all content for TikTok and it's to get followers and And it's to drive engagement because I'm sure a lot of the comments are like, this is very unrealistic. The only thing that makes me feel slightly better is knowing that some of these

people with these pristine homes are actually waking up at these ridiculous times in order to maintain them. Because otherwise I'm thinking, fuck, how do these people get so much done in a day? I just assume they have cleaners. Because the thing is, as I said, I have been making an effort to keep on top of making sure the kitchen's clean and And loads of laundry are done because it does make me feel better. But then I'm like, God, I have not had time to scrub our floor or do vacuuming. Like those are jobs where I think someone's definitely got a cleaner to do that. But the reality is that as parents, we actually need to be conscious that we give ourselves time to relax. So we can't be constantly optimizing every moment. I read an article on mum maxing and it said that 60% of parents don't routinely do anything to relax and recharge. And this is leading to parental burnout. It's so true. The other night, it was Saturday night and I was like, okay, I'm home alone because my husband was working late. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to sit down and watch some YouTube and relax. But then I had this list of all these mental tasks and it was silly organizational things. But I'm like, I just feel like I need to get them done now rather than relaxing. And then the other night I was like, nah, I'm going to relax. I'm going to lie down. I'm going to watch the block properly. Fell asleep within two seconds. Yeah. Isn't that the worst? It is, but your body obviously needed it. Let's get into Iconic or Unhinged, and I have found a story on the Daily Mail that I want to get your opinion on. So a mum has gone viral for serving her 12 kids nachos in a paddling pool. We're going to get cancelled for saying nachos like that. 00:22:16 Speaker 3: Nachos. 00:22:16 Speaker 1: Just say nachos, Amy. No, it's nachos. So this woman was slammed for being unhygienic and wasteful. Let me get this straight. Okay, so did she actually serve the corn chips and sauces? Like she used the paddling pool as a plate or her 12 kids were in the paddling pool while they ate nachos? No, no, yeah. So you know one of those like half shell, you know those like you get them from Bunnings, the plastic paddling pools? Oh, she put nachos in there. She's used it as a huge bowl. Like a buffet. Yeah, she's poured so many corn chips in there. The sauces, she was like pouring them out of like huge vats of it. And is this a regular thing that she does or is this just for social media? I think it was just for social media. But she showed this is how you can feed 12 children. There were no knives and forks. Everyone was just getting in there with their hands. Who eats nachos with knives and forks normally? Like if you're a child, I don't think you have to use a knife and fork. Yeah, but it was just something that seemed quite– as people said, unhygienic about the whole thing. She clearly bought the paddling pool new. A lot of people who were defending her were saying, well, what's the difference between this and a very large bowl? Oh, it's just a stunt for TikTok really. But is it iconic or unhinged then? I think it's iconic. I think what a great idea. Those kids will remember that forever. They'll be like, mum, do you remember when you got the paddling pool out and we all had nachos? Yeah, I've seen that where parents will put, I think it's like a big thing of baking paper or something down the table and And they'll just pour pasta all over the table with sauce and the kids are meant to just, you know, get in there and eat with their hands. Have you seen that on TikTok? I find that worse. I find that more offensive than nachos in the paddling pool. There was something about this blue paddling pool which just looked a bit gross though. Look, I haven't seen the vision so maybe it was not as aesthetically pleasing as people hoped but I'm just more interested in how she feeds 12 kids normally. Like what a feat that is. That must be so expensive. Imagine how many ooshies she gets. Guys, we're having lasagna in the paddling pool tonight. Do you know what would be cool in a paddling pool? Oh, actually, I don't think it would work because you'd have to fit it in the fridge, but like jelly or something. Oh, yeah. With lots of Freddo frogs in it. Or just one big hags Freddo frog. God, you'd need a lot of money for that. Well, on that note, that is where we're going to leave things today. I think you can probably tell that we're hungry. And also Sophie's voice has dropped out of this episode. It's becoming a bit of a theme, but her son woke up and being mums, we just had to get on with it. So she was there for the Molly Mae topic. We were mum maxing our time by just getting on with things. Yes, before our children woke up. 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