Full Transcript for CFB Week 11 Picks: Will LSU, Lane Kiffin HANDLE Texas, Arch Manning + Can Missouri UPSET Georgia?

2: Last week, how many people? 00:03:09 Speaker 3: 152 people went 10 for 10 and walked away with more than. 00:03:14 Speaker 2: $ 3, 000 in bonus bets. 00:03:16 Speaker 3: Also, when you're still playing for free and having fun, if you outpick one of us, I only got five correct last week. 00:03:24 Speaker 2: Taylor got six. Mr. Josh Pate, he got seven. If you just beat me, FanDuel's going to give you. 00:03:30 Speaker 3: A profit boost token. There's so many ways to win and it's all for free. Just go to fanduel.com slash bussin to learn more and have some fun with the boys. 00:03:39 Speaker 2: Sounds like I had a great week. 00:03:41 Speaker 1: All right, this Ford Leaderboard segment is presented by Ford. A hard day's work starts with one thing, someone willing to do it. And where there's a will, there's a Ford F-Series truck. 00:03:50 Speaker 2: I had a phenomenal week. Ignore the Ford Leaderboard. I had a phenomenal week. Phenomenal week on the 10 games against the spread. 00:03:56 Speaker 1: The second Josh Pate goes and starts hooting and hollering on the internet against the haters, this has to happen. 00:04:02 Speaker 2: I should have taken these. 00:04:03 Speaker 4: You remember how I contemplated on air a week Six, do I just go one unit across the board? 00:04:09 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:04:09 Speaker 4: I'm very happy with myself, but no, that wouldn't have been entertaining. So I continued to bet as I normally would. And I'm down like 27 units over the past four weeks. But the goal is to win, right? 00:04:19 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:04:19 Speaker 2: That's what we all agreed upon in the preseason. And I am still up, just not very big. A couple of things. 00:04:23 Speaker 1: We're in the entertainment business. So thank you for making this more entertaining by faltering. 00:04:27 Speaker 2: Since week six. You're welcome. 00:04:29 Speaker 1: And two, shout out you for being a competitor. You could have easily taken a knee. and just handled business the rest of the season. We could have not gotten anywhere. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: We compete. 00:04:36 Speaker 1: The fact you got here is awesome. I can't wait to see it come up. And if you ignore my red, you don't even have to ignore it. We're all within striking distance of each other. All that is is a parlay away. 00:04:46 Speaker 2: Oh, no, you're right. 00:04:48 Speaker 3: Your margin is pretty, like you're six units down from zero. But you're 16 units down from. 00:04:57 Speaker 2: Moving up in the podium. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's really good math, Will. 00:05:02 Speaker 3: You said we're all in striking distance. 00:05:05 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I mean. So I'm two weeks away. 00:05:07 Speaker 2: You're one week away. 00:05:08 Speaker 1: I'm one week away. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: That's true. Yeah. I did go in 18. Yeah, what are we talking about? 00:05:13 Speaker 4: Look at that. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: You're one week away. 00:05:15 Speaker 1: I'm one week away. 00:05:16 Speaker 2: One week away. This is the week, too. Nasty. He's one game away. 00:05:20 Speaker 4: He's one game away. Any given game. He's taking the lead. He doesn't need to be parlay Willie. He just needs to be three-unit Willie. 00:05:29 Speaker 2: He's down the middle. And count on me to just keep doing what I've been doing. Just keep your consistency. Count on old Josh Pate. 00:05:35 Speaker 1: But it's like, when is Josh going to all of a sudden just turn it back up again? 00:05:38 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm running sprints at the chat dump right now. Yeah. 00:05:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:05:43 Speaker 1: He's like LSU. 00:05:44 Speaker 2: He's efficient. He can move the rock, but once it's time to score, he just can't. Do it. Just can't get that big win. 00:05:49 Speaker 1: And just going off of this past week where Will was the winner of the one week and he was only up one unit. So clearly was going to be the case. Just was going to be the case with the way we had week 10 of college football breaking down. It was going to be the greatest of all time. And Will and I were on the show Monday. We were saying we feel you didn't live up to the hype. Did you feel the same way? 00:06:09 Speaker 2: A little underwhelmed. Yeah. 00:06:11 Speaker 4: Relative to the expectation, which was the Saturday of the century of the year. 00:06:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was only about a seven and a half. 00:06:18 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:06:18 Speaker 4: On the one to Saturday of the century of the year scale, it was only about a seven and a half. But that's the thing about football. When you score in threes and sevens instead of ones, sometimes one or two plays can create a little lopsided game. I thought the way the Holy War started to go early in the day, where it wasn't back and. 00:06:36 Speaker 2: Forth at all. It was totally a game of runs. It was 14-0. It was 20-0. It was 14-0 to end. 00:06:39 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:06:42 Speaker 4: That was a good game because it was very dramatic. But then the rest of the day, Bama LSU, third, fourth quarter, late third, fourth quarter, that one starts to get a little margin. Georgia's wood chippers Ole Miss, so that's never a close game. You never feel like Kentucky is going to take the lead at any point on Tennessee. And I also think the weird thing about Notre Dame Miami is the final score is close, but it was 24-3 at one point, right? So there were big three score margins in some of those games that we all thought, you know, it was on like the marquee for the headline games. But I'll tell you what did deliver. And like, I'm not even joking when I say this. You know how you find yourself weirdly glued to some games on a big Saturday? 00:07:20 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:07:21 Speaker 4: For some reason, like games draw your attention. You think I'm going to say Michigan, Michigan State. I actually did watch every snap of that game. But I'm talking about A & M South Carolina. Because Lenoris went down. He went out. He goes and gets x-rayed. I'm getting sad

texts from people. They don't need to be named, but I'm getting sad texts. And then he comes back in because I thought he was done for the year. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: Like legit, he went and got x-rayed. 00:07:43 Speaker 4: And then Shane Beamer's got this somber look on his face, which if you read through the somber look is, we're done. We don't have QB1 anymore. 00:07:50 Speaker 2: Then he comes back. And he's like full Byron Leftwich mode on the way to the end zone. 00:07:54 Speaker 4: And then as soon as he crosses the goal line, he's like dragging a bloody stump of a foot across the goal line. 00:08:00 Speaker 1: And then he scores and then he needs help getting to the sideline. 00:08:04 Speaker 2: Entertainment. Pure cinema. It all comes back down to South Carolina. Pure college football, man. 00:08:09 Speaker 1: Lenore Sellers. I have no idea what his NFL career is going to be all that, but he will be a legend forever. 00:08:14 Speaker 2: He is a legend. At South Carolina. He is a legend in college football. 00:08:18 Speaker 3: Anybody else smelling Boston College plus 29 and a half versus Notre Dame? 00:08:22 Speaker 1: Coleman wouldn't stop talking about it on the stream last night. 00:08:24 Speaker 2: He can't do it. He can't do it. He can't do it. It's the Gamecock deep stitch. What is it? 00:08:32 Speaker 1: Something's going on with Will. 00:08:33 Speaker 4: I was watching the Monday show. I thought you guys did a great Monday show, except I had one bit of feedback. And that is, JP is back there. He hasn't interjected himself. He's waiting for his moment. And then South Carolina game comes up and you can tell he's sitting on about a 90 second to two minute, just hardcore substantive take as only he can deliver on Lenores and. 00:08:57 Speaker 2: The comeback and the touchdown and the escape with a win. And he starts. And then out of nowhere, it's. hey, Boston College, underdog of the week, right? 00:09:07 Speaker 1: Of Danny McCourty. 00:09:08 Speaker 2: And they never came back to him. And you just said it for me. 00:09:12 Speaker 1: I was wondering why you just brought up Boston College. Somebody asked JP something, so he starts going. 00:09:17 Speaker 2: But I'm like, hey, my dog? I'm like, Boston College, Boston College. 00:09:22 Speaker 1: And then it gets, we talk about it enough to where you get on it too. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: Like you start talking about that to where you. 00:09:28 Speaker 2: Started off listening to JP. I just hit the trail off. 00:09:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you trail off and get into the Notre Dame Boston College. You're going on here and I'm like, Boston College, anybody smelling that? And you're like, yeah, I mean them coming to town. 00:09:39 Speaker 1: Because I didn't really know what happened. 00:09:42 Speaker 3: Josh was like getting hijacked. He sent like a funny text. But then I finally saw JP coming. He like posted something the day before about Josh talking about Lenore Sellers and the Gamecocks. And that's what made me laugh that much harder about, you know, hijacking the whole situation. 00:09:57 Speaker 2: Cause JP, you could just, he had one more ready to go. 00:10:01 Speaker 1: Josh has said it perfectly though. 00:10:03 Speaker 2: Almost word for word. How I would have said it, but it hits better on the lock. Arkansas, Arkansas, Arkansas. Exactly. That's why I'm there to be like, go ahead. Say it. 00:10:10 Speaker 1: Like nothing to say. 00:10:11 Speaker 2: We got Arkansas. They're alive. Yeah. We saw the players. 00:10:14 Speaker 1: I was texting JP because when I saw Lenore go down in that hit, I thought the same as everybody else. 00:10:18 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, the season's over. He's done. I don't think his legs even attach to his body anymore. It wasn't. 00:10:23 Speaker 1: And to watch him come back on the field. We talked about it right before, too. I was like, he'll come back. He said something along those lines. 00:10:30 Speaker 2: I'm like. He has to. He has to. He has to. 00:10:32 Speaker 1: And you know what? 00:10:33 Speaker 2: He knew that. He did. He knew it. Let's take a look at. One I wanted to go back on because you were touching on it. Man, did you not think. 00:10:41 Speaker 3: BYU was just going to take control of that game after they went down 14-0. Yeah. 00:10:45 Speaker 2: And they came back and I'm like, oh, BYU, they woke up. They're ready to go. 00:10:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Utah just started shitting on their leg a little bit. Couldn't get the ball. They couldn't push the ball downfield. They stopped trying to run the ball. 00:10:54 Speaker 4: I started picturing we're like three more weeks down the road and the committee is ranking Brigham Young top four or something like that on Selection Sunday. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: They've won the Big 12. And the whole stat is, Since they went down 14 to nothing to Utah, Brigham Young has the little blank. Because it felt like they got slingshot past tense. And then it just melted away. Four turnovers. 00:11:17 Speaker 3: Man, when he threw that one at the goal line, it was wide open. Hell of a play by that Utah linebacker. 00:11:22 Speaker 1: You're talking about the one where he throws it and the safety comes out of nowhere. 00:11:25 Speaker 2: The backer's kind of sitting there and he just jumps and grabs it. Oh, okay, we're talking about a different one. It was like the last one for them to go up. The last pick that he threw. Yeah, dude. Because he threw what? 00:11:33 Speaker 1: What did you say, four? 00:11:34 Speaker 2: He threw like four interceptions. Yeah, it was nuts. 00:11:36 Speaker 1: It was like six for 16 in the second half. 00:11:38 Speaker 2: It could have been worse than four. Yeah, he was throwing some muffins out there. 00:11:42 Speaker 1: It was very much Michigan versus Minnesota feeling where the stat line didn't show how bad it really was. 00:11:46 Speaker 4: You've been pretty direct on your feelings about Michigan this

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Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. 00:12:42 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the episode. 00:12:44 Speaker 1: But like in my head, I'm like, okay, like clearly this is not the way this should be going. We are way too talented. to be this non-competitive on the offensive side of the ball. Defensively, we might be, we're a championship caliber defense. There's no doubt about it. And the more I thought about it, I was like, dude, this has nothing to do with the players. Like the players from a talent standpoint is there. It's the leadership. It's the culture of this coaching staff that just clearly doesn't understand. 00:13:08 Speaker 2: Doesn't want to understand. 00:13:10 Speaker 1: Doesn't want to understand. Doesn't understand Big Ten football, which is like kind of like the entry point, but also like, what it means to be in a school like Lake Michigan, where you have a trophy game, Paul Bunyan, like all the things. And then like, I don't think we have any more trophy games this year. And it's like, dude, you have the most important game at the end of the year to where it just seems like he's checked out. Hey, club, I did get a call from somebody at Michigan about the whole house thing. Someone did call me like, hey, if you ever have questions about that, we. 00:13:39 Speaker 2: Can tell you the truth. And I'm like, well, all right. What's the truth? 00:13:43 Speaker 1: Whittingham hasn't allegedly, Whittingham hasn't bought a house there yet because he hasn't found one that he likes. 00:13:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I've heard. So is that not true? 00:13:51 Speaker 1: No, the only thing that I heard was they haven't bought a house. Jason Beck hasn't bought a house. Apparently Jason Beck did buy a house, but I was kind of checked out. He has not bought a house, no. So my statement was correct. 00:14:00 Speaker 3: Whittingham was getting questioned on the buy-in of being there. Like you haven't even bought a house yet. So you haven't actually bought it. 00:14:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. That's why I'm saying, am I wrong? Is that feeling wrong? Is someone up there telling you, oh no, man, he's purchased, he's settled roots, he's. 00:14:13 Speaker 3: No, no, no. 00:14:14 Speaker 1: They're saying the reason why he hasn't bought a house is because he hasn't found one that he likes or his wife hasn't found one that he likes. Because the whole car, it was all about- Tough market. Tough market right now. The budget must be. 00:14:23 Speaker 2: A little low. Yeah, exactly. 00:14:26 Speaker 1: But dude, when you get like, I'm sure you've gotten texts about Michigan as you get texts about every single university. I've gotten texts from a bunch of people being like, it's like, I texted one individual, I was like, is it as bad as it seems? 00:14:37 Speaker 2: Worse. 00:14:38 Speaker 1: Worse. 00:14:38 Speaker 2: It's worse than it seems. 00:14:39 Speaker 1: It's worse than it seems over there. So to me, being as publicly frustrated with the football team, I'm not thinking about my happiness right now. I'm thinking about my children's happiness. I'm thinking about generations. If you're a fan of Michigan and you've dealt with all the hate and everything for as many years, some of it you should have gotten. The last coaching staff, all the things. It's like we need to get on a track where who's our coach for the next 20 years? Not, what do we do with this guy because the buyout's this much and we're paying the next... It's like, clearly this is just not good enough. Like, to anybody's standards, no one thought this is the worst case scenario. This is worse than the worst case scenario from anybody's expectations going into this year, how non-competitive this football team is. And it has nothing to do with the players. This is coaching. This is leadership. 00:15:26 Speaker 2: This is instilling culture. And it's just not there. 00:15:29 Speaker 4: Don't you feel like if they go to Oregon and win this week, it actually happens in spite of the staff? It just happens because of the players? Right. 00:15:36 Speaker 1: The problem with that is I find myself in the tug of war of like long-term, the better thing for Michigan long-term is to lose against Oregon, which sounds ridiculous as a fan. 00:15:46 Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like it's already kind of written a little bit. Okay. Do you play Oregon? Him leaving or him getting fired? Like, I don't know. 00:15:55 Speaker 3: Being in your spot, it's almost like, oh, you're going to kind of have a one night stand with this coaching staff this year. 00:16:00 Speaker 2: No doubt. You get to go find somebody else. 00:16:02 Speaker 3: You get to go find somebody else that you could potentially get for 20 years long. 00:16:06 Speaker 1: And if I had the conversation with him, because like to me, Whittingham is a good coach. I'm not going to take his sample size of the school that I went to and just define him as a coach because he did have a lot of success at Utah.

Like he probably understands the Holy War in totality. He understands the culture of Salt Lake City. All those things like, He's had so much success there that I don't want to take that away here. It just does not work here. When you're like, hey, it's probably not going to work out. It's like, yeah, you're probably right. Either he'll walk away or someone will tell him to walk away at the end of this year. But my fear is, what if it doesn't? To where I'm like, there needs to be a definitive. Because if you go and beat Oregon, you have three games left. You have Oregon, you have UCLA, and you have Ohio State. 00:16:47 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:16:48 Speaker 2: Juggernaut schedule. 00:16:48 Speaker 3: It's almost like the boy sitting there in the living room is like, is he going to tell her that she's kind of overstayed? But then like, oh shit, she's staying for another week or two. 00:16:58 Speaker 2: Right. And we got to get her up out of here. And we've been around those guys. 00:17:01 Speaker 1: We've probably been to those guys a couple of times where we have the girl over and all the guys are like, why is this girl over? 00:17:06 Speaker 2: Oh, they see it. 00:17:07 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:17:08 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But we don't see it. We don't. Yeah. 00:17:11 Speaker 3: Because when he got hired, everybody loved it. It's like you had so much fun at the beginning. Yeah. But now you've gotten to know him a little bit and it just ain't like, okay, we need this to kind of move on. 00:17:22 Speaker 2: Right. And we got to find somebody else. 00:17:23 Speaker 1: And he gets up on the podium the first time. 00:17:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. 00:17:27 Speaker 1: He gets up on the podium though and he goes, he goes, uh, you will become us, we will not become you. And it's like, oh my God, what a bar, especially with this guy with the culture. Now I look back, I'm like, seems kind of fucked up now that we became you. 00:17:42 Speaker 2: I don't like that at all, that we became you at all. 00:17:44 Speaker 1: Because the last coaching staff, clearly like the DMs, the texts, the not being focused. 00:17:52 Speaker 2: We were competitive, offensively. 00:17:54 Speaker 4: Hey, I'll tell you, I'll say this. Sharon Moore, million different flaws. I don't doubt the dude loved Michigan. I don't doubt the dude wanted to embrace Michigan. He embraced a lot of other stuff, but at least that part that I want. If I invite you over to my house and I say, hey, the one thing is we take our shoes off in this house. You get two options. Well, a normal human has two options. You either take your shoes off or you just say, oh, I'm actually going to head home. I appreciate the invite. I'm going to head home. You don't just continue to walk in there. And then when I say, hey, Taylor, man, I asked you to take your shoes off. You're like, oh, take your shoes off. There y'all go with this taking the shoes off stuff. 00:18:34 Speaker 1: Well, it's my house. 00:18:36 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's kind of how it works here. 00:18:37 Speaker 4: Also, added bonus, I paid you $ 8 million to come over to my house. So respectfully, take your shoes off or leave. That's kind of the way it works. Unfortunately, I have to pay you to leave too. 00:18:48 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 00:18:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:18:50 Speaker 2: Let's see this. It's a weird relationship. It's a weird relationship. 00:18:53 Speaker 1: And what a unique way to kind of spin it. But you're right, dude. Like this motherfucker just won't take his shoes off. He's got to go. 00:18:59 Speaker 2: He's got to go. 00:19:00 Speaker 1: Like you're going to come in here and you're going to track that. Do you know how many germs are on the bottom of your shoes right now? 00:19:06 Speaker 2: And I have a three month old at home. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: And not only is he not taking them off, he's not even talking about the importance of Of the shoes being taken off. No. 00:19:15 Speaker 2: Like the tradition of why we take the shoes off. 00:19:18 Speaker 4: He's laughing at you because you would even suggest he take the shoes off. 00:19:21 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:19:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:19:24 Speaker 2: There's a good Michigan. He's got to go, man. He's got to go. I've never called. He needs to leave. 00:19:29 Speaker 1: I don't like what I'm doing either, but I'm not thinking of like, listen, you're going to have a lot of turnovers. There's going to be a lot of transfers this year. A lot of good football players that I hope are at Michigan are going to leave. And I can't sit there and blame them. 00:19:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:19:41 Speaker 1: Because it's like you dealt with You said things were gonna get fixed this year after it was the way it was the year before and nothing changed. So if we go, hey, look at this brand new coach. Let's just insert her name, Bob Chesney. Bob Chesney comes in here. It's like, oh, this is going to make it better. Some of these players are probably like bullshit, even though he's had a lot of success. Like Whittingham had a lot of success. He was there for 20 years, culture guy, the whole thing. whoever the next coach is, it's very hard to look at some of these players and go, we promise this time it's fixed. 00:20:09 Speaker 2: Because they're going into their third year, fourth year. How can I expect them to stay? So this has nothing to do with the players to me. 00:20:15 Speaker 1: I like those guys. I have a relationship with a lot of those guys. But that coaching staff, the head coach and the offense, they got to go. 00:20:24 Speaker 2: Oil and water. 00:20:26 Speaker 4: We did a segment on the show last night. Someone asked me, How can you always be the dude who preaches have patience, but yet you're calling for Michigan to move on from this guy in year one? 00:20:34 Speaker 2: It's a good question. They're right. 00:20:36 Speaker 4: I've never done that before. I've never called for some coach to lose his job in year one.

And to further the point, like you said, I got all the respect in the world for Kyle Whittingham's career. I don't know him personally. I don't think I've ever had a conversation with him. So I only know from a distance what he's done. And what he's done is pretty incredible at Utah. So I want to walk that fine line of calling it like it is at Michigan without denigrating the guy's whole career. But the way I equated it is if you have this jug of milk in the fridge and you look and it says expiration, November 10th. Well, that was yesterday. Nothing's changing that. Every day we go forward, it just gets more and more spoiled. So unless we're going to make buttermilk, which meanwhile I used to do with expired milk, we have no more use for this. I can let it sit in my fridge. I can have two years more patience and I'm just going to have a stinky fridge. That's all I'm going to have. 00:21:22 Speaker 2: And I think this one is so clear. There's no shade of gray here to me. The only shade of gray. 00:21:27 Speaker 4: is going to be if they mess around and win one of these games, like you said, and then it leaves enough doubt, it leaves enough mud in the water. 00:21:34 Speaker 1: If you're playing a bunch of bad teams at the end of the year, it's like, oh, okay, whatever. You have three essentially juggernaut teams left at the hardest part of your schedule or all these last three games. You go and fuck around and win one of these games, it can trick even the most complex. If he wins two of them, it's like, oh, are we? 00:21:52 Speaker 2: If he wins three of them, apology to her on the show. 00:21:55 Speaker 1: Probably not. 00:21:57 Speaker 2: Probably not. This expired milk tastes pretty good. 00:22:02 Speaker 1: The old line coach, Harding, he's calling plays. He's never called plays before. He goes and just does it. 00:22:07 Speaker 2: It's like, oh shit, look at this. 00:22:09 Speaker 1: We don't have to. 00:22:11 Speaker 2: Talk about this. It's not going to happen. 00:22:14 Speaker 4: What if two volcanoes erupt simultaneously over a rainbow? It's never going to happen. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: No, no, no. But maybe. Do you want to talk about this? Yeah. 00:22:23 Speaker 1: You did your show last night as these rankings were coming out. What was the thing. 00:22:25 Speaker 2: That stuck out to you the most? Indiana dropped as I thought they would. Really? 00:22:29 Speaker 1: You thought they would drop? 00:22:30 Speaker 2: Yeah. So two things. 00:22:31 Speaker 4: I think they were correcting because they had Indiana too high last week. But also Indiana had the worst thing happen to them imaginable or series of things because even though they were off. all the teams on the resume lost. So there was this misnomer, which I understand it being a misnomer because this whole world makes no sense. Like if you're sitting at home and you're a casual fan, you say, how do you drop when you don't play a game? Well, it's your resume in its entirety that's being

judged. So a lot of teams on your resume played last week and all of their teams lost that's on their resume. And if you've got a tightly compacted four through 10, it doesn't take much for your resume change and for you to drop. Also, Like Tennessee won last week. There was nothing really chaotic that happened in front of Indiana. So I thought they were going to drop to eight. They dropped to nine. So they're like within one spot difference. Here's what's crazy. I think you could go down as far as 22 and still paint a path for some of those teams to get in. Because Missouri still got number eight. 00:23:30 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 00:23:30 Speaker 4: They play number one and they play number 11. So if you were to beat those two teams, theoretically, you could jump in. LSU can still jump in. I don't think Ole Miss can jump in. 00:23:40 Speaker 2: You think Houston could jump in? 00:23:41 Speaker 4: No, I think that's the crazy part. I think 22 could be alive. I think 14 could need a ton of help, only because they're capped. 00:23:49 Speaker 2: In terms of their resume. They're kind of hitting that ceiling. 00:23:51 Speaker 4: So like Ole Miss, I feel the same way. Ole Miss is in front of Missouri. Ole Miss got no shot to make the playoff. I don't think Ohio State does either. I think USC does. I think South Carolina does. I think Oregon does. I think Iowa probably does. 00:24:03 Speaker 2: Houston, no. Wake, I still believe, needs to win the ACC to make the playoff. I agree with that. 00:24:09 Speaker 4: I was working it out in my head last night. SMU, here's the problem. You don't know where SMU is. They play SMU this weekend, but you don't know if they're 26 or 46. They're not 46, but you don't know what kind of credit that's going to get them because the playoff does this screwed up thing of not showing you beyond 25. which is one of their hand-behind-the-back sort of tricks. And so I don't know what that's going to do to boost their resume. And also, you could say, well, if they win out, but they lose to Miami, and their only two losses are Miami regular season, Miami ACC championship, maybe that'll be good to sneak in, isn't that large? Because some teams in front of them are going to lose. 00:24:47 Speaker 2: That's true. 00:24:48 Speaker 4: But if you're going to play out the scenario where a couple of teams in front of them lose, you also have to play out the equal likelihood scenario that some teams behind them win and jump them. So I don't count on them being able to get in that large spot. They don't have brand recognition. They don't have the strongest schedule. And they will not be a conference champ. So I don't know that many people are going to be speaking up in that room for them. 00:25:08 Speaker 1: God, they are just so on fire right now. Like the BYU of last year. 00:25:12 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be very similar to that, I think. 00:25:14 Speaker 1: Of the teams between 12 and 22, who do you think the most likely to get in that's not in right now are? 00:25:21 Speaker 2: 12 to 22? 00:25:21 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Texas Tech, they're playing Oklahoma State. 00:25:24 Speaker 2: They're dogs. 00:25:26 Speaker 1: Against Oklahoma State. You just brought up Wake Forest. Houston, we feel like they're capped. And I agree with what you said. They're sitting at 14. The best, in my opinion, is 12, where they get bumped out by the G6. I look at Iowa, and I think of all the rivalry games this year and how everything's kind of falling apart, maybe the most important rivalry game the last week of the season is Iowa versus Nebraska. Always comes back. 00:25:53 Speaker 4: To take it a step further, one of the most important rivalry games that already happened was they lost to Minnesota. 00:25:59 Speaker 2: Or they'd already be in this thing. They lost Floyd. 00:26:02 Speaker 4: Kyle Whittingham, just FYI, Floyd of Rosedale is the trophy game between Iowa and Minnesota. 00:26:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, Whittingham knows how to lose against Minnesota too. It's called the brown jug. Does Iowa have any trophy games left? 00:26:14 Speaker 1: I don't know if. 00:26:14 Speaker 4: Iowa has any trophy games left. Yeah, I had him in the playoff last week. I put Iowa in my playoff projection. What he's referring to. 00:26:20 Speaker 2: By the way, is a thing that I got made fun of on Monday. 00:26:24 Speaker 1: When I was talking about, like, are there trophy games? And he's like, no, he said there's no trophy. Mitch said there's no trophy games. He was saying in the press conference, I'm not sure if we have trophy games. I don't even know. And it's like, bro. you can't be that laissez-faire even if you are. Because it was, I feel like a joke. Did it feel like a joke? 00:26:40 Speaker 2: It was a slap and a joke, yes. Yes. But it was mainly a slap. And it's like, we're not going to get back on Michigan. 00:26:45 Speaker 1: I get it. 00:26:46 Speaker 2: I was going to say, what happened? 00:26:48 Speaker 3: I know. 00:26:48 Speaker 1: Because it has clicked in my brain when Mitch was like, no, he said this. And I was like, oh, you thought that you were right. And then you made the comment. 00:26:56 Speaker 2: We're all laughing. It's like, dude, get out. It does feel like a. 00:27:01 Speaker 1: Get out, dude. 00:27:02 Speaker 2: For your question, would you say 12 through... 22? 12, 13, yeah. It feels like a Big Ten team. You think so? So, Iowa probably. 00:27:11 Speaker 3: I think it comes down to, yeah, if Oregon wins out, it also comes down to, like, if USC beats Indiana, like, USC's, they could be skating. 00:27:20 Speaker 2: They have UCLA still. They have the schedule. 00:27:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you just jumped over the one team that if they get They could have the best win on this entire thing. 00:27:30 Speaker 2: They play Georgia next week. The best opportunity. And if they beat Georgia. Check in. Check in, JP. They're in. Check in. JP. Arkansas. Arkansas. Arkansas. Don't talk about

Boston College. Arkansas. Got it. We'll see you next week, brother. 00:27:42 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm saying best opportunity to get in, in my brain, not that I'm hating on the Gamecocks, it's just like, I don't see them beating Georgia. If they beat Georgia, then yeah, the Gamecocks. 00:27:54 Speaker 2: They're clearly in. 00:27:55 Speaker 1: You think Iowa's your number one team to get in in this situation? 00:27:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so ugly, them getting in. Yeah, it is. You know what I mean? 00:28:04 Speaker 3: If Oregon continues to play the way that they have since firing their OCU, where they're averaging over 400 total yards and 37.5 points, if they continue that path, Oregon's going to be like the hottest team trying. 00:28:15 Speaker 1: To get in. 00:28:16 Speaker 2: Josh Bates. 00:28:16 Speaker 4: The other thing that we were asking last night when we were watching the rankings reveal. So BYU's at 10 right now. 00:28:22 Speaker 2: Which that, by the way, was kind of nuts. They only fell one slot. So I thought they'd fall more. So they're number 10. 00:28:27 Speaker 4: All right, if you're a Brigham Young fan, don't you start to think, I'm kind of okay if Texas Tech wins out. 00:28:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:28:35 Speaker 2: If they go to Dallas and let's say they. 00:28:37 Speaker 4: Lose to Utah, because maybe I still get in that large spot. This is the first time I've started to think Brigham Young could get in as an at-large. 00:28:45 Speaker 2: Really? Post-UCF loss. In the same way, it's like if Iowa was ranked number 10 right now. Yeah. They just went out. They're not going to be in the conference championship. 00:28:55 Speaker 1: They just went out to stay in the same spot. But could they be finding themselves in a position where Notre Dame was similarly last year? Yes. Where they're at 10 and then the week before conference championships, all of a sudden they're 11th. 00:29:07 Speaker 4: Dude, I don't think it's different, though, because Notre Dame had the whole head-to-head thing with Miami, and they fell behind Miami at the 11th hour. In this scenario, BYU knows they're not jumping Utah. Now, if Texas Tech beat Utah, it'd be a mess for them. But if you're BYU, you're kind of counting on, we're going to win out, so we're not going to fall. Utah and Texas Tech are going to win out. Utah disposes of Texas Tech in the title game, so no one's a threat to jump us. We're not going to lose a head-to-head spot over anyone. We're just going to hope Oregon or... South Carolina or USC, a bunch of these teams don't race up from behind and jump us. And we lock down like the 10 seed or the 11 seed or something like that. 00:29:48 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:29:49 Speaker 1: If this was, let's just say this was the final one right before conference championships, could BYU not be sitting there where the ACC, if it's not the people we think are going to win it and it's Wake Forest, Wake Forest goes in and BYU comes out. 00:30:02 Speaker 4: I think BYU would drop to 11. Kentucky would be the one that drops out in that scenario. You got to make room for your G6, which I know you love. So it would really be the top 11 there. And if they fall down, it's Kentucky that's on the top. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: Of the pot. 00:30:15 Speaker 1: You think a Big 12, because I could see a Big 12 team getting booted two spots as opposed to a SEC team. 00:30:21 Speaker 4: You're saying that if they were to have to rank this in the last week, they would rank it different than they ranked it here. 00:30:26 Speaker 2: I think so, yes. It's very possible. 00:30:28 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's like, and this is ongoing. 00:30:30 Speaker 2: You're saying this is the ranking going into conference championship weekend? This is the ranking going into conference championship weekend. 00:30:34 Speaker 1: Whoever, let's say Georgia wins the SEC, Utah wins the Big 12, UCLA wins the Big, like there's no, Crazy things that happen, except for Wake Forest beats Miami. I don't think Miami follows that many spots. And I think Wake Forest jumps in. And your question is, do you take out an SEC team or a Big 12 team? And I think the answer is you take out the Big 12 team. 00:30:55 Speaker 2: Possibly. You may be right. Also, you'd have to ask yourself. You're talking they'll leave Kentucky in there? 00:31:01 Speaker 4: No, he's saying, what he's saying, and I think there's a lot of merit to this, is these are the rankings right now. 00:31:07 Speaker 2: Correct. 00:31:07 Speaker 4: But the committee ranked them that way, knowing... those aren't the final rankings. He's saying if it were the actual final rankings, they may have ranked them different. 00:31:15 Speaker 2: Yes. Because they would put an SEC team in over a big 12 team. 00:31:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. The SEC, dude, this is why every week. 00:31:25 Speaker 3: Every slot is so important on everybody in that committee room interrogating each other about why you do this. Because the whole SEC bias, which we know is present, They're going to get themselves in trouble. 00:31:41 Speaker 2: If Texas wins out and Tennessee wins out. 00:31:44 Speaker 3: Because at what point when you're looking at the rankings is like, when are you going to put Alabama. 00:31:49 Speaker 2: And Tennessee in the same pod, in the same conversation? Because that is where the head-to-head matters. 00:31:54 Speaker 3: If Texas wins out and Tennessee wins out, like all you're going to be doing, you have Bama all the way up at three. Then once they enter the pod conversation, that's where it's like the head-to-head matters to where you're going to go Texas, you're going to go Tennessee, you're going to go Alabama. And then what you're going to push- UCLA, Notre Dame, somebody's going to get pushed to where it's like four out of the top five in the CFP is going to be SEC teams. That's where to me, it's like you're going to get yourself caught. And then the BYU only drop in one spot. We're kind of asking ourselves

questions. OK, if it's the last final ranking, are they going to get an SEC team in there? Like, it just, that's why every ranking matters every week. All the positioning, all the posturing, all the, hey, we got to be prepared for this. We got to be prepared for that. Alabama had an awesome win. So now they're up at three when they had no business being at five last week. True, but we have to live in the reality of them being at five. And because of that and their win against Alabama, they deserve to be at three based on the original rankings. But you still want to talk about how it unfolds every week. So that way when it does happen, it's like, listen, they got themselves in this bind in week one when they put those dudes at five. 00:33:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. And it feels like Alabama, Tennessee, and Texas, three different girls you're talking to, and they're all about to find out about each other. 00:33:10 Speaker 3: Because now you're over-correcting with UCLA, which is like, if UCLA was in that slot last week, Bama wouldn't be number three right now because UCLA would have moved up if they wanted to overcorrect on Indiana and be like, oh, they just got beat on the couch by 14 this weekend. 00:33:26 Speaker 2: Let's move them down to nine. Joshua. This will be unpopular. It's not popular to praise the SEC. 00:33:35 Speaker 1: Correct. 00:33:35 Speaker 4: Like it's not popular. It's not popular to defend ESPN or praise the SEC or defend the committee. You can't do those three things right now. It doesn't matter if there's logic behind. 00:33:44 Speaker 2: What you say. People just want to wave a pitchfork in your face. 00:33:47 Speaker 4: So there is a path here where LSU loses to Texas Saturday, which we're going to talk about in a little while. And LSU is going to Neyland next week as an unranked team. And what I was asking myself on my show last night is, is there enough meat left on Tennessee's bones schedule-wise to where they have the capability of drawing to within X number of spots of Alabama? If they do, they'll jump them. I'm wondering if they have enough springboard in the schedule. Now, if LSU beats Texas this week, LSU is going to go to Neyland next week as probably a top 15, at least a top 15 team. 00:34:28 Speaker 2: You think top 15? Yeah, they'll jump pretty high. LSU will jump because they'll finally have a quality win on their resume. They don't have one right now. They're not even in the top 25. 00:34:38 Speaker 1: LSU is 21 right now. Yeah, but you look at, I mean, Texas Tech's not going to go anywhere where they're at. Wake Forest is not going to go anywhere. 00:34:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. They'll be top 15. Yeah. No, I'm thinking they might not be. If LSU beats Texas. They're going to be top 15. 00:34:55 Speaker 1: Maybe the highest they can get to is 18. 00:34:58 Speaker 2: No, no way. 00:35:00 Speaker 1: Dude, I mean, just think about it. I know this doesn't make sense. Okay, Texas Tech wins versus Oklahoma State. Okay, that's a ranked matchup. They have to stay where they're at. You're thinking in terms of placement. And I'm telling you, when they just go back and assess that from scratch next week, whether you believe they do that or not, they will find a way, maybe even justifiably. I'm not even saying this would be wrong. I'm saying if LSU adds a win over number six on their resume that to this point has no ranked win on it, I don't think, they will springboard above a bunch of teams, even if those teams win. 00:35:35 Speaker 2: Just the way it's going to be. 00:35:36 Speaker 1: Above Texas Tech, above Wake Forest, Houston, and Iowa. 00:35:39 Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily saying that high. I'm saying mid-teens. Top 15. 00:35:44 Speaker 1: I'm assuming those four teams. 00:35:45 Speaker 2: They would go above Iowa. I think they would go above Iowa. I think so too. I think they would go possibly above Houston. Above Oregon? Oregon may be jumping along with them. If Oregon beats Michigan. Where are they going? Actually, they may jump over. Yeah, you know what? 00:35:58 Speaker 4: The more I think about it, that would be a three-loss SEC, three-loss Big Ten. We've already got a lot of comparative stuff out there. Like Houston is a two-loss Big 12 ahead of two-loss Big Ten USC at 18. So, yes, I think they would jump them. 00:36:13 Speaker 2: So you're telling me the committee goes from scratch. 00:36:14 Speaker 1: They pull all the ornaments off the tree. 00:36:18 Speaker 2: Taylor. 00:36:19 Speaker 3: They'll have them positioned. for some of these three loss scenarios that are still out there, they will have them positioned. Especially going into Tennessee-LSU, which could be a do-or-die game for both. 00:36:32 Speaker 1: Okay, so what we're saying is, LSU beats number six Texas. They will find themselves in the top 15. That's a statement that both of you sign off on. 00:36:40 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:36:40 Speaker 1: So in that scenario, they will be playing Tennessee for a playoff bid. 00:36:46 Speaker 4: Tennessee's life may not be on the line there. They would still be on the bubble if they lost. What I'm saying is, to go all the way back to the original point, if Tennessee is playing number 14 LSU instead of unranked LSU, and they beat LSU, that's when Tennessee springboards up enough, potentially, to get into that comparative pod conversation. 00:37:06 Speaker 1: That's where the committee shits down their leg. 00:37:08 Speaker 2: This is what we did not see coming. 00:37:10 Speaker 1: This is Notre Dame-Miami of last year. 00:37:13 Speaker 4: But the difference is Notre Dame-Miami potentially included a team dropping out of the playoff. This would just include a team dropping from whatever to whatever. But my point was going to be, look, Utah goes to Arizona this week. Utah's got losable games left. So does UCLA. Notre Dame's in a situation where they could get jumped because they don't have quality games left, but they're safe in

the playoff as long as they win. All I was saying with the SEC thing is people need to get comfortable with the idea that if Texas and Tennessee and Alabama and Georgia and then maybe someone else jumps up there, there is just a world where three or four of those top six or seven spots are SEC teams because that's just the way the thing shook out this year. The Big Ten's not vintage Big Ten this year. Their two representatives are UCLA and Indiana. That's a crazy headline. There are more Big 12 contenders right now. Two teams that they just moved extremely over the last two years. The ACC's dropped the ball fantastically. They have one legit contender here in Miami. 00:38:09 Speaker 2: That's it. 00:38:10 Speaker 4: Florida State sucks. Virginia Tech hasn't done anything. Clemson hasn't done anything. So people want to get mad at the committee because they've got all these SEC teams up there. The SEC is the best conference in the country this year. And other conferences have dropped the ball. At some point, you run out of contenders to mix in there. Not popular to say. 00:38:32 Speaker 3: You're not wrong, but it's almost like it's the predetermining of how some things are going to shake up. That's why I'm always like every slot matters because, again, not a lot of it makes sense. It's like when Bama beat LSU over the weekend, it's like that was a chaos scenario to where you could have like six, seven, three loss SEC teams. It's still there if LSU goes and beats Texas. Then it comes down to LSU. What if LSU then beats Tennessee? You're still going to have a lot of those teams sitting in that top 15 range. 00:39:01 Speaker 4: That's the one. If LSU beats Texas and then beats Tennessee. LSU, Tennessee, Texas, all three losses. That's the one. That's the path right there. But if you go off of. 00:39:14 Speaker 2: Do all those teams make it? 00:39:17 Speaker 1: I don't know. If LSU beats Texas and Tennessee... Is LSU, Texas, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama. 00:39:23 Speaker 4: All in? 00:39:24 Speaker 2: It depends on how these teams look. That's where it's like when I side with the SEC is the toughest conference. Like it'll depend on what the rest of the field does. 00:39:32 Speaker 3: Because if you would have had, it's like, dude, over the weekend, if Ole Miss, ranked number 10, would have beat Georgia, who was number two, Ole Miss would be sitting in the top four. 00:39:44 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:39:44 Speaker 3: Notre Dame just did it, 11 beating one, but they dropped Miami down to seven. They put Notre Dame up at five. Like, I get, like, once it's a, like, to me, the co-conference conversation is like a tiebreaker. It's like, okay, if you have a two-loss SEC team versus another two-loss any other conference team, I kind of like the, I do like the SEC team more because they are the better conference. Like, they have better teams in the SEC. 00:40:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, they have better resumes. 00:40:08 Speaker 3: But it's like the way the way it just doesn't shake out like it would for the SEC is you'd have Georgia, you have Utah. UCLA would have been bumped up if they haven't correctly ranked last week because now they move them all the way up to four over a win at Minnesota. Like if they would have already been sitting up there. they would have been three. Maybe you're not dropping Indiana down as much. 00:40:29 Speaker 2: Maybe they do. Who knows? 00:40:30 Speaker 3: But Notre Dame would take up that, that four slot. And then you could still comfortably put Miami. Who's only a one loss team who we've all said is the number one team in the country all year. You could put them at five or six to where you have Bama, Texas, Tennessee, all these teams who have been beat each other in that pod conversation to where it kind of shakes out more, you know, it's all subjective, but fairly. 00:40:52 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:40:52 Speaker 4: One other thing about Indiana is, The reason I'm not going to get mad at them dropping is they refuse to schedule tough out of conference. And everyone gets mad about it. Pretty much everyone agrees about that in May and June. But you get so focused in horse race blinder kind of mode in the season that people forget they control a lot of that because they did not schedule up, which is your prerogative. But you're not going to get any credit whatsoever. Whereas some of these other teams, even though they scheduled what ended up being bad P4 teams out of conference, They made the effort to schedule him instead of scheduling Howard, whoever that dude is. So that's why Indiana. It's one of the reasons Indiana's down. The other reason is because the crux of their conference schedule has not carried the weight that you would think a Big Ten conference schedule would carry its weight. 00:41:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:41:35 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though. 00:41:36 Speaker 3: It's like the line was at 7.5, and I'm like, why are we giving Indiana? You give me seven points, they're going to win by a score, but it probably ain't going to be more than 7.5. But now, after these rankings just dropped. 00:41:49 Speaker 1: Big Netty– Well, listen, we gotta talk about that game anyway. We might as well just go right to it. 00:41:53 Speaker 2: Oh, their game's Saturday? 00:41:54 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh. 00:41:56 Speaker 2: We interrupt this episode to bring you Neutral. Neutral tastes great. 00:41:59 Speaker 3: It tastes so much better than what else is out there. 00:42:01 Speaker 2: It's made with real vodka and real juice. 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and root on. 00:42:25 Speaker 2: Your favorite team. Neutral, keep it tasty. Getting the errands, game of the week. 00:42:29 Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought up Indiana. Indiana drops as many spots as they did. They're at home. They're playing USC. USC coming up a massive win against Ohio State. They're favored by seven and a half points. And the total net game is 50 and a half. Both teams coming off of buys. 00:42:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:42:44 Speaker 1: I think we all have kind of the same thought process here about Indiana. Giving them seven and a half points. Way too many based on what we've seen. But then you put in Big Netty coming off a buy. USC, how they look when they have to travel to the Midwest, Eastern time zone. And then the committee taking Indiana, who was comfortably sitting at four and dropping them five spots to nine. I don't really care who the quarterback's going to be. I don't care if it's going to be Hoover or the kid that came over to possibly just become a coach and want to sit there and learn having to be thrusted into a playing spot. This defense is going to suffocate USC, in my opinion. This is going to be similar to Wisconsin. Like Wisconsin, the way they made Jada Maava feel in that game, I don't think they have a player on their team that could start on this Indiana defense. And that's where I don't, I just don't see a world where USC can move the ball. 00:43:35 Speaker 2: It's at home. 00:43:37 Speaker 1: They're pissed off. And they're kind of seeing that, oh, we have no room for error anymore based on the way people are viewing the Big Ten. So I'm going to take Indiana minus seven and a half. 00:43:47 Speaker 2: I'm going to put four units on that. Four? Yeah. 00:43:49 Speaker 1: Well, I got to swing a base that we already talked about earlier. So don't worry about my numbers. And don't put it near my confidence. 00:43:55 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 00:43:56 Speaker 1: Yes, sir. 00:43:56 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. Yeah, I appreciate that. To me, everything you just explained- That 50 and a half right there. I'm going to go under. I'm going to go under. I'm going to go three units. I get like the whole swing from four to nine and they don't schedule anybody. And who is Indiana beat? I agree with what everybody's saying. There's just a part of me that knows Cignetti and the way he talks about margins in a football game to where it doesn't matter how it looks. This is the most comfortable team in a one-score game in the country. They'll find a way, no matter who it's against, they're always going to find a way. Like they were, what, two inches away from beating Ohio State. But it doesn't matter who it is. But they are so comfortable in the fourth quarter. They are so comfortable in situations that they have to have. I like Indiana. It's like, yeah, I watch them offensively. Do I think that they can win the national title? Part of me is like, ah, it doesn't look like it. It looks like there's several teams who are better than Indiana.

But then I look at any team who's up in the top tier, the SEC or Miami, Notre Dame. If they have to play Indiana, I'm like, man, I don't know how it happens. It's going to be a one-score game. And part of me just likes Signetti in those situations. So when it comes to this game, I'm going to go under. I'm going to go three units on under 50 and a half. 00:45:09 Speaker 2: Under 50 and a half, three units. Yes. Under 50 and a half, five units. I love it. I love it. I was only going to go four, but you talked me up to five. It feels like it's a game. It's like a pucker bowl. It's really like a pucker bowl. Both teams know. 00:45:26 Speaker 4: I didn't think Indiana would be saying this, but it feels like both teams know their playoff life may be on the line. USC knows the last time they traveled, they got completely shut down by Wisconsin. I think they know it's a razor-thin margin for error game. I think they're going to play it tight. I also think they understand I'm playing an Indiana team that is no threat to pull away from me. So I don't have to score on every drive. It's going to be a couple of explosive plays, hope we can get to 24, and then hope that they look the way they have. 00:45:52 Speaker 2: So far this year. 00:45:53 Speaker 4: And then on the Indiana side, I just trust the defense. They've known we've got to win games defensively all year. But I just think the overall nature, like the tight-shouldered nature of the way that game's going to feel, it's so final, like it's so urgent. And I don't expect a lot of chances to be taken. I feel like it's going to be a one-possession game. Model likes USC, by the way. I just don't trust them. I don't trust them on the road here. There's always the chance that one of these teams just crowbars offensively. And either of those scenarios would work for the under. So I love under 50 and a half. I thought it would be more like 46 or 47. 12, 15 and a half. 00:46:30 Speaker 2: Pop me a four units. Pop me to four units. All right, put me on the under. Put me on the under. You cannot be serious. You cannot be serious. Put me on the under, dude. Five units. What? What? 00:46:43 Speaker 3: What? 00:46:43 Speaker 2: Hang on. 00:46:44 Speaker 4: No, I love that. 00:46:45 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:46:46 Speaker 3: I do. 00:46:46 Speaker 2: What just happened? What is happening? 00:46:49 Speaker 1: Because I love Indiana in this situation. 00:46:51 Speaker 2: However. Take them. 00:46:53 Speaker 1: No, no. When you said the under started, I'm like, bro, he's so right. When's the last time? After the first four games for Indiana, have they ever been over 50 points? 00:47:08 Speaker 2: I know all this. I just made the argument. 00:47:09 Speaker 1: While you guys were saying, I'm like, oh, fuck, they're 100% right. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: He picked you back to your side, babe. Look at that house on the hill. Let's move in there. And he's like, I'm gonna move in there too. It's my house. 00:47:20 Speaker 1: No, dude, it's our house. 00:47:22 Speaker 2: You are Kyle Whittingham right now. It's a big house. 00:47:24 Speaker 1: You are Kyle Whittingham. Oh my lord. 00:47:27 Speaker 2: Take five, take five. I thought we had traditions. I thought we had traditions on this show. Traditions. 00:47:35 Speaker 1: I can't piggyback? There's been multiple piggybacks this year. 00:47:37 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 00:47:39 Speaker 1: A bunch of, but you've come, you're like, hey, you talked me into it. 00:47:41 Speaker 2: I'll do that. 00:47:42 Speaker 3: Going from a different pick four unit to I got to slap the table on. 00:47:47 Speaker 1: Can I go four units, Indiana minus seven and a half plus the under? 00:47:50 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Do five on it. Slap the table. Slap the table. 00:47:53 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll slap the table on that. 00:47:54 Speaker 2: Wait, what's the pick? 00:47:55 Speaker 1: My pick's I got a bigger fucking house now. I got a big ass house is what I just got. 00:48:02 Speaker 2: Stay clearly for the record. 00:48:02 Speaker 1: I'm going Indiana minus seven and a half. Yes. Plus the under five units. 00:48:08 Speaker 2: What is that? A mansion. He's building a parlay. Were we allowed to do that all year? We were allowed to parlay these all year? I thought we were just picking straight. Look how mad you are right now. 00:48:20 Speaker 3: I'm not mad. 00:48:21 Speaker 2: I'm not mad. I just didn't know we could do this all year. I thought you could. Uh-oh. SEC bias. I wish you the best of luck. 00:48:31 Speaker 1: You know what's one team we all kind of just don't talk about, but I think we're afraid to talk. 00:48:36 Speaker 2: About them because. 00:48:37 Speaker 1: they're just clearly above everybody else's Georgia. 00:48:40 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:48:40 Speaker 1: I think that's the, we're walking towards a very boring college football playoffs. 00:48:45 Speaker 2: Ooh. Team lost to Auburn, but you think they're just clearly above everyone. 00:48:49 Speaker 1: They lost to Auburn and look at all of us. 00:48:51 Speaker 2: But why is it just a fluke for Georgia when anybody else loses? 00:48:54 Speaker 1: It's like, we've got to look into the team. Because they've done it before. They've done it consistently. 00:48:59 Speaker 2: And everyone just kind of goes. JP, we race losses though with all these SEC teams. Look at that. Look at that. It's just the SEC. I know. Indiana lost a game against a bad Ohio State team. You know that. Yeah. You know that. Brigham Young didn't lose to UCF. You know that. It's just the SEC. We wipe it. 00:49:19 Speaker 4: Clean. 00:49:20 Speaker 2: They got to you. 00:49:21 Speaker 1: Who? 00:49:22 Speaker 4: Actually, I don't know because it's supposed to be deep state SEC and you're anti-SEC. 00:49:28 Speaker 2: But I'm also, they are the most competitive conference. Competitive, but are they the best? We'll find out with the national title, right? 00:49:34 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:49:36 Speaker 3: Like, how are we

counting who's going to be, like, yeah, a lot of good ball in the SEC. 00:49:43 Speaker 2: Not a lot of great ball, though. It just depends on how you look at it, man. I don't think there is great. 00:49:47 Speaker 3: Like, where are you going to have, I would love, where are you going to have Kentucky this week in your top? 00:49:54 Speaker 1: They were number three in your poll. 00:49:56 Speaker 2: For a commissioner's poll? You mean like rankings? Commissioner poll. You got to wait till Thursday. 00:50:00 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:50:00 Speaker 2: Wait till Thursday for that. Had them propped up. We're a top three team in the country. I think they belonged up there. They were overrated. Well, no, they were properly rated. I'll react to the loss. 00:50:10 Speaker 3: They're properly rated in like a, you know, six to eight, five to eight range or something. When you're saying this one loss Kentucky team, one loss any team, I'm going to put them in a spot over all the other one loss teams in three. Part of you is saying like, you're telling them, I think you are the best. 00:50:28 Speaker 1: One loss team in the country. 00:50:29 Speaker 4: You deserve to be ranked higher. I don't think you're the best. There are several teams I would pick. I picked Tennessee to roll Kentucky last week. I wouldn't have done that if I thought Kentucky was definitively better than Tennessee. So you could have them properly rated like, hey, they've had a good season. I do think they're going to get their ass beat this weekend. That's why I'll put them at like six. What I'm saying is I don't think I should be predictive with rankings. I don't think I should put teams based. I've always said this about the committee too. I think you should rank, you should define, first off, write on this piece of paper what matters so that it doesn't come down to the subjectivity of Well, here's who I think's better. We see the four leaderboard every week. Every one of us loses games every week, which means we're flawed. Like our thinking of what's going to happen is flawed. 00:51:11 Speaker 2: My thinking ain't flawed. So, okay. 00:51:16 Speaker 3: How was Kentucky the number three team in the country then? Without any predictive mentality. Like, who'd you beat in OT? 00:51:23 Speaker 2: They had beaten LSU already. Who's LSU right now? LSU right now is not who LSU was last week. 00:51:29 Speaker 3: Because you're thinking this is still a damn good LSU team. You're still, the bias, that's still a good, oh, South Carolina just won in cocktail. That's a damn good South Carolina team. You beat them in OT too. 00:51:40 Speaker 2: Still are. Still are good teams. 00:51:42 Speaker 4: What else am I supposed to go on other than what I already have seen Am I supposed to go on what I think is going to happen for rankings? 00:51:49 Speaker 3: You gave him a carrot and you tucked the Kentucky fans in at night. Like, hey, you guys are a top three team. 00:51:55 Speaker 2: In the country. What a crazy

bedtime snack. It's insane. It's those bunnies. Say you're happy. You gave me a vegetable. 00:52:07 Speaker 1: I think I just want to argue to argue right now. 00:52:09 Speaker 2: That's fair. I don't even know what I was saying. All I know is Kentucky on the top three anywhere should have never even been that way. I knew what was happening. I knew what was happening. 00:52:20 Speaker 1: If we're going to keep you unbiased, we should keep you unbiased. Will, who do you got between Missouri and Georgia right now? Georgia's favored by 15 and a half points. 00:52:29 Speaker 2: Total is 47 and a half. 00:52:32 Speaker 1: Unbiased Millie. 00:52:34 Speaker 2: Who do you got in this one, brother? Are you calling me biased toward Mizzou? 00:52:37 Speaker 1: Do you think I would, if I was to say Willis biased towards one of these teams, what team would you think I would be? 00:52:42 Speaker 3: I think I've had Georgia winning the SEC title all year. I think I've been talking about how a team that steps foot on the grass with Georgia. is running into a buzzsaw multiple times. I also think I have been high on Missouri because it's hard to quit Missouri because that team has the potential to do it. 00:52:59 Speaker 2: People are talking about Texas. Mizzou lost that game last week more than Texas won. I'm sitting there. 00:53:04 Speaker 3: I'm talking to somebody inside the building of Texas like, hey, Willie, just checking on your health after that Missouri-Texas game. 00:53:11 Speaker 2: I'm like, here's what you need to do. 00:53:14 Speaker 3: You need to make sure you take care of that referee for your guys' urgent recovery on that bullshit third and ten that you said. 00:53:20 Speaker 2: That was crazy. That you said, oh, that's a fumble. He must have picked it up. That's bullshit. 00:53:24 Speaker 1: Urgent recovery. 00:53:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, urgent recovery. And. 00:53:27 Speaker 3: The field goal kicker for Mizzou, Texas needs to send him a care package and make him a Texas jersey with his last name on it because he missed two chip-ins that he should have made. Like that game, Mizzou had it, man. They pissed it down their leg, and they're a team that can't play from behind. And going against Georgia, 15 and a half is a lot of points. 00:53:45 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 00:53:47 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to go under here because I think Georgia is going to shut. Like when they go, when Roberts has less than 100 yards, they're one and threes. When he has over a hundred yards, they're undefeated. They're like five or six and oh. Do I think Roberts is going to have over a hundred yards against this Georgia Bulldog defense? 00:54:03 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 00:54:04 Speaker 3: So I think George is going to win this game. I just don't know by how much. It's like, is Georgia up 21 points in the fourth quarter? And Simi just dials it up there at the end and they lose by 14. You know what I mean? 00:54:15 Speaker 2: It's a lot of points. 00:54:15 Speaker 3: I'm going to go under 47 and a half and I'm going to do it for two units because I'm not that confident on this game. 00:54:20 Speaker 2: Got you. What do you got? 00:54:21 Speaker 4: So Missouri, I don't see this game where they have consistent drives. So they got to do the thing where they bust a couple of explosive runs. I mean, it helps if it's through the air, but they, they, he just said they never win if they don't run the ball effectively. 00:54:35 Speaker 2: So they got to have some explosive runs. Georgia is, they've allowed one run of 30 plus yards all year. So some stuff that hasn't happened to Georgia all year. 00:54:44 Speaker 3: Unless you got Byron Brown, a quarterback, that's it. 00:54:49 Speaker 2: He can give you problems. 00:54:55 Speaker 4: I think that I am going to go Georgia. Minus 15.5 for one unit. It is a lot of points. I'm just asking this. How much would it wreck everyone's worldview if Missouri won this game outright? 00:55:07 Speaker 2: It would be beautiful. 00:55:07 Speaker 4: The one last thing that you think you know for sure, and that is it's Georgia. That's my North Star. I can count on them. And if they lose, that's a second loss, by the way, at home. If they were to lose this game, everything would be thrown in a blender. you would truly think to yourself, it's anyone's game. Wake Forest could win the national title at this point. I have no idea what's real and what's not. I don't think that's going to happen, so I'm taking Georgia minus 15.5. But I think even though this point spread is not the biggest point spread of the weekend, that being the result, Missouri outright, if that was the result, that would throw everything into a 2007-style blender. 00:55:43 Speaker 2: What's your computer say about this game? Right on the number, Georgia minus 15. That's what it thinks the number should be. Ooh, don't let Austin Simmons give me hope again. Yeah, Missouri's good enough. I just don't think they can run the ball. I don't think they're consistent enough. 00:55:57 Speaker 1: This is a run-first offense on Missouri. They run a great outside zone, but you brought up the 100 yards. If they're over, then they win. If they don't, they don't. You're not running the ball versus Georgia. The interior defense lineman, their linebacker is in their secondary. You can't throw the ball against Georgia. And the thing about their offenses is they're slow and methodical. They're late to get out of the huddle. They'll take forever in the time clock, but they're one of the most efficient offenses in the country. One of the best scoring offenses in the country, and they have the fewest amount of series. So they're going to have the ball. So they get the ability to put their foot on the gas and go score in an instant, or they can sit there for eight and a half minutes and just– With it, like just death by a thousand cuts over and over again. Don't start to do the ball 15 times this last game for 184 yards. Hard to do.

Taylor Taylor, he's 140 of those yards. Like they just ever since the bye week, they're just allow this other team to make mistakes and just never beat yourself. I like Georgia minus 15 and a half. They are the one constant. I think that we all agree on is like, okay, George is the number one team in the country. The Auburn loss is what it is. I'll go four units on that. 00:57:03 Speaker 2: Friday, going to be down there. 00:57:04 Speaker 1: We're going to have Boston to paint on campus. It's going to be a great time. It's good that we're all aligned on Georgia, too. The fan base will love that. 00:57:11 Speaker 2: That'll be good. Bam. You're going to yell, let's go, Irish, just for the... Is that coming down there? Yeah. Let's go, Irish! It is. Dude, and Frazier, too. 00:57:21 Speaker 1: He's running the ball well. 00:57:22 Speaker 2: There's a lot to love. 00:57:23 Speaker 1: Phillips is running the ball well. They're just road grading as an offensive line. 00:57:27 Speaker 2: But what is? 00:57:28 Speaker 1: I just don't see Missouri putting pressure on Georgia. 00:57:31 Speaker 2: I don't either. It should be a wounded animal spot for them. Their playoff life's on the line this weekend. 00:57:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to have it. 00:57:36 Speaker 2: It should be that. Well, it is that. It should be. It is that. Even then. 00:57:41 Speaker 4: The reason I'm saying that is this is the kind of spot where I would typically take a double-digit underdog with their life on the line and a really good quarterback. 00:57:47 Speaker 2: Yeah. I couldn't find my way to do it. This line you flinch at for a second. You're right. I feel like it right there. I really wasn't. 00:57:55 Speaker 4: Maybe I got too much trust in Georgia. But all the things that are consistent, that carry over week to week, they have right now. 00:58:02 Speaker 1: We said at the beginning of the year, Kirby Smart, Gunnar Stockton, dumbed a bit against them. 00:58:08 Speaker 2: And here they are. We're in November. We're in the middle of November. 00:58:10 Speaker 3: It would almost just be like me going one unit Mizzou Moneyline. It would almost just be like a value play. Because I'm putting two units on the under here, right? You're going four for Georgia to cover. 00:58:24 Speaker 2: You're going how many? Just where did I go? You want one unit? Like he's got a small, like he's got, he's got a small unit. He's got a small unit. 00:58:32 Speaker 1: He's got a small little wee unit on this game. 00:58:34 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like what's the, how big of a separation is it there? 00:58:38 Speaker 3: Because if the scenario happens, not that I think it is, I don't think it is, but if it does, you turn one into 5.7. 00:58:46 Speaker 2: I just did it. 00:58:49 Speaker 1: Do it. 00:58:50 Speaker 2: Do it. Do it then. 00:58:51 Speaker 1: Pussy? 00:58:52 Speaker 2: Do it. Doubt Kirby's smart. I'll doubt Kirby's smart. I did it last week, dude. It does not work out. Second

home loss. 00:59:00 Speaker 4: He already lost as a three-touchdown favorite. 00:59:02 Speaker 2: This is just over two. It's basically tied right now in the fourth quarter. Ahmad Hardy. That's your home state. Have some pride. Missouri pride. Give me one unit Mizzou Moneyline. Yeah. Give me one unit Mizzou Moneyline. Man, I love watching people die a hero. It's so awesome. 00:59:22 Speaker 1: I did the same thing last week with Ole Miss. It's just not worth it. 00:59:26 Speaker 2: It's one unit. Like, I'm not putting a four unit. Like, I'm not risking a bunch. 00:59:31 Speaker 1: But Ole Miss, Trinidad Chambliss, multiple quarterbacks give him absolutely fits. They body bagged his ass. 00:59:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, they did. Yeah. 00:59:39 Speaker 1: Listen, there's no point in me thinking Mizzou's winning this game. 00:59:42 Speaker 2: Right. 00:59:42 Speaker 3: One unit. 00:59:43 Speaker 2: This is a value play. Let me see what happens here. You know what I mean? 00:59:46 Speaker 3: Gotcha. It's like, oh, like even if Mizzou wins, I'm going to be like, lucky Willie. It ain't going to be, I saw something. 00:59:52 Speaker 2: No, it'll be. I highly doubt that. 00:59:55 Speaker 1: It'll be you saw something. What do you see in Texas Tech at Oklahoma State? Texas Tech's favorite by three and a half points to win this game is 72 and a half points. 01:00:04 Speaker 2: Hell yeah. Which game are we going over? 01:00:08 Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Oklahoma State. 01:00:10 Speaker 2: I feel like this is a challenge. I feel like the over is a challenge. I just thought you were saying the game in general is a challenge. 01:00:17 Speaker 1: Hey, my first thought when we sat down was, hey, the over, right? And then Cody talked me into 72 being way too much. 01:00:25 Speaker 2: But I love where your head's at. Yeah, I think this is truly a challenge that we have to go over here. You're going to do it anyway? Yeah. Hell yeah. 01:00:33 Speaker 4: Live total got up to 112 and a half live during their last game. 01:00:39 Speaker 2: West Virginia. Slap the table, Will. No, no, no, no, no. I got my table slapper. I got my table slipper. You've been reading rehearsed lines too much. All right. I'll sit on the unit pic right now. 01:01:07 Speaker 1: I don't know. 01:01:07 Speaker 2: All right. All right. 01:01:08 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is my new table slapper. Dude, you really are water, bro. You could just be molded anyway. 01:01:16 Speaker 2: Oh, my God. 01:01:17 Speaker 4: There's just sometimes you get to a phrase and you say, I'm not even wasting time on this phrase. 01:01:22 Speaker 1: Oh, dude. All right. I guess we'll go, Josh. 01:01:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you got here? I like Texas Tech plus three and a half. The reason why. 01:01:37 Speaker 1: is like clearly their defense is not what it was last year, but they still have so many pieces from that defense last year. And this game's going to come down to, given that the total is what it is, but the number is that

close. It's like, we know this is going to be a shootout. I just believe in the idea of Texas Tech stopping Oklahoma State twice. Like, yeah, getting him to punt the ball two times. And Castellanos, the way he's been able to revamp this run game was like 345 two weeks ago against Arizona and then over 250 twice. against West Virginia, their offense is clearly taking off of Castellanos. The defense needs to start taking it personal. We've been with the boys during the spring, and those linebackers, those mustaches, there's no way they're in those team meeting rooms not taking this shit personal. 01:02:23 Speaker 2: I think the total is definitely in play here. 01:02:25 Speaker 1: I just tend to believe that Texas Tech on the outside looking into the college football playoffs, they know they have an opportunity to get in the playoff. Oklahoma State, whether they want to believe it or not, they have no shot of making the playoffs. So I'll take Texas Tech plus three and a half. I'll go four units on that. 01:02:41 Speaker 2: Four units? 01:02:42 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:02:42 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to line up right across from you and I'll go four units, Oklahoma State minus three and a half. Nice. Pretty easy breakdown to me. I think you've got home field, better quarterback, and that's about it. That's about all I need because there's no dominant unit. If Texas Tech's bringing a dominant unit in here, that's when it gets a little more complicated. 01:03:00 Speaker 2: They don't have that. 01:03:01 Speaker 4: And so I've already watched Oklahoma State flex at home once this year. I've already watched Texas Tech get embarrassed on the road once this year. I'm not saying they're going to get embarrassed, but I like Oklahoma State minus three and a half, and I'll go four units on it. 01:03:14 Speaker 2: Joe McGuire. Is it the over? 01:03:18 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:03:18 Speaker 1: It's never not been. 01:03:22 Speaker 2: I kind of want to go Texas Tech outright. You have that freedom. Do Texas Tech outright plus the over. Yeah, do that. Five years. Do it. Do that, man. Do it. 01:03:36 Speaker 4: Do your patented favorite minus the points dog money line. Because you pulled that one out last year. It didn't work? 01:03:45 Speaker 2: It can't work mathematically. It doesn't matter. It was fun. 01:03:50 Speaker 1: Oh, shit. 01:03:50 Speaker 2: I can't remember what game it was. But it was fun. 01:03:55 Speaker 1: Was it Iowa? 01:03:57 Speaker 2: I like Iowa minus three. I like the dog money line. 01:04:01 Speaker 3: I would. 01:04:01 Speaker 2: I would stay with that. It was so great. 01:04:11 Speaker 1: You know it. 01:04:11 Speaker 2: It's the over. 01:04:12 Speaker 1: You think so? I don't know, but I want you to think it. Jesse, we like the over in this game? All right, I'll stay over. I'll just stay on the over. 01:04:21 Speaker 2: Three units. You're going to stay over. Three units. I think Texas ain't going to win, Josh. You do? Yeah. 01:04:28 Speaker 4:

You got that much confidence in Tommy Castellanos on the road Because they didn't have enough confidence in him to start him originally. 01:04:34 Speaker 2: But you've got confidence in him on the road. Let me get Texas Tech money line. Four units. A ton of confidence. This is where I get my margin this week. So I love it. Yeah, I'll go three units on the over. Stay over. You're just over. I'm saying just over. Your Tech money line. So this is the game. 01:04:55 Speaker 1: Give me Texas Tech plus three and a half, four units. 01:04:58 Speaker 2: What's going on here? I'm having my other show over here, dude. We're doing a different show. And you're right, though. That was a good pull by you. Texas Tech plus three and a half. Texas Tech and Oklahoma State are both seven and two to the over. Oh, shit. Don't overthink it. All right. 01:05:18 Speaker 1: What do we got here? 01:05:21 Speaker 2: Wake Forest at SMU. Sleeper game of the week. It's essentially a pick'em. 01:05:27 Speaker 3: Wake Forest or SMU is favored by one and a half points. The total on this game is 60 and a half points. Gentlemen, who was the first soft toss crack at this game? 01:05:39 Speaker 2: The over is 80 and a half? 60. Oh, is that? Is that 60? Yeah. 01:05:47 Speaker 1: I still, still. He doesn't know where he is right now, man. 01:05:52 Speaker 2: Some people lie about having good eyesight. Yeah. You're just brutally honest about not having good eyesight. Oh, yeah, dude. Like, you're the inverse. When I drive at night, it's terrifying. Yeah. God, I don't know, bro. Bro, it's Wake Forest. Yeah, Gio Lopez. Gio Lopez. Yes. You can trust him. 01:06:17 Speaker 1: We're not going to look at the fact that SMU is a completely different team at home as opposed to away. 01:06:21 Speaker 2: They are. 01:06:21 Speaker 1: By a massive margin. 01:06:22 Speaker 2: Kevin Jennings is a killer. We sat in the same. 01:06:25 Speaker 1: Area with Dicker. We listened to him talk for 10 minutes and we were ready to run through a brick wall for that man. 01:06:31 Speaker 2: I still am. You still am. 01:06:32 Speaker 1: Imagine being around him all year long since January 1st. Transferring in there and just hearing this guy wax poetically for years. 11 months, 10 months, whatever month we're in right now, I don't even know. This is way forward. This is Gio Lopez. This is statement game. This is, hey, how were they not in the playoffs after this win? I'll take that money line four units. I got to pee really bad. Can I go pee real quick? 01:06:55 Speaker 2: Go tinkle. All right. We interrupt this episode to bring you Jack Daniels. 01:06:59 Speaker 3: Whether I'm at a tailgate or on the couch watching Nebraska or Michigan on Saturday, Jack Daniels is a staple on my game day roster. Expand your playbook with the cinnamon kick of Jack Fire, the smooth taste of Jack Honey, the crisp and refreshing Jack Apple, and the only blackberry bursting with Jack. 01:07:15 Speaker 2: Personally. 01:07:18 Speaker 3:

I love the smooth taste of Jack, honey. No matter how you stack your unit, there's a Jack. 01:07:22 Speaker 1: For every football fan. 01:07:23 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the episode. 01:07:24 Speaker 3: I was talking with the boy and I'm just like, man, Wake Forest gives you no reason not to pick them. Between Dickert, between Gio Lopez, between how they've just been handling business. They give you no reason not to take them. 01:07:39 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. FanDuel knows all that and they're saying, take Wake. 01:07:45 Speaker 1: Go ahead and take them. 01:07:46 Speaker 3: Hey, hey. 01:07:50 Speaker 2: I know. I know. 01:07:52 Speaker 1: Because something about Kevin Jennings. 01:07:56 Speaker 2: Dude. He beat Miami at home around this time last year. He's a high-end tight cat, and he can move, bro. He can. Can I tell you something? 01:08:03 Speaker 1: And he's at home. 01:08:04 Speaker 2: I know. Can I tell you something about Wake Forest's defense? You know, they play that soft zone. 01:08:08 Speaker 1: Like, we know Kevin Jennings is going to have 35 completions in this game. Do you know who the best team in the ACC. 01:08:14 Speaker 2: Is in the defensive red zone? 01:08:15 Speaker 1: No, no. 01:08:16 Speaker 2: Wake Forest. Oh, no. 01:08:18 Speaker 1: That field starts to condense a little bit. They're not getting, like, workforce will not give up X plays. 01:08:21 Speaker 2: They do not do that. 01:08:23 Speaker 1: They bend. 01:08:24 Speaker 2: They don't break. 01:08:24 Speaker 1: You get to the 25-yard line. The field shrinks, and they are the best in all of the ACC. They're top five in the country in the red zone. So, yeah, like, his stat line is going to be incredible. His percentages are going to be awesome. This is going to be a dogfight. But, buddy, red zone. 01:08:42 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:08:43 Speaker 1: That's where it absolutely matters. Big dickered energy. Big dickered energy. Like, yeah, Jennings, we're not going to take away from him. Like, that's a hell of a ball player. And what they lost, was it Louisville early in the year? And ever since then, they've kind of like, and then the Syracuse game, obviously. 01:08:59 Speaker 2: No, we won't. there. 01:09:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. But like. 01:09:02 Speaker 2: Two units. 01:09:03 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:09:04 Speaker 2: SMU minus one. 01:09:05 Speaker 1: And a half. 01:09:06 Speaker 2: Wow. 01:09:07 Speaker 1: That was the opposite of everything I was just trying to say. I know. 01:09:11 Speaker 2: What happened? What did I say? Nothing. 01:09:14 Speaker 1: Fan deals just in your ear. Hey, take them. 01:09:18 Speaker 2: I'll give you a point and a half. 01:09:20 Speaker 4: And here's the crazy part. They're whispering all that to me. And I'm like, I will for four units. I'll take Wake Moneyline. I don't even need their point. 01:09:29 Speaker 2: And a half. I love how you think they just won the game by saying four units. No, he just got you. I knew it. 01:09:34 Speaker 1:

He just got you. 01:09:35 Speaker 2: He didn't get me. 01:09:36 Speaker 1: He played you like a fiddle, bro. He didn't get me. 01:09:38 Speaker 2: Yes, he did. 01:09:38 Speaker 1: He didn't get me. He goes, Wake, how do they know? And then he just talked you all into it. I say a whole thing about Wake Forest. 01:09:46 Speaker 2: You agree the whole time. 01:09:47 Speaker 1: I agree the whole time. 01:09:48 Speaker 2: And then his, they're giving me points. 01:09:50 Speaker 1: Oh my God, this is incredible. I'll take, yeah, this is SMU. And then he turns around and goes, got him. 01:09:56 Speaker 2: Four units, Wake Forest. This better work. He just played you, bro. 01:10:00 Speaker 1: Like when you guys relationship, I'm happy you don't see it because your relationship. 01:10:03 Speaker 2: Would never be the same if you did. He played himself, bro. SMU was winning this game. I'm on his team. 01:10:09 Speaker 1: He can't be himself. 01:10:10 Speaker 2: Can I say that's my biggest fear that I just played myself? No, dude. 01:10:14 Speaker 1: That's all of our biggest. 01:10:15 Speaker 2: Taylor, you got it. Hey, he's got you. 01:10:18 Speaker 1: No, he's made you piggyback a hand slap. 01:10:21 Speaker 2: He's made you make parlays. He's made you. 01:10:23 Speaker 1: He just said four units Wake Forest. 01:10:25 Speaker 2: And you go. He's kind of got you in a blender right now. 01:10:29 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I said my thing first about Wake Forest. Then he went. He agreed with me, so I shook his hand on that. And we both agreed that, did you or did you not get him? And Josh, he won't answer that because he got you. He doesn't want you to think he got. 01:10:42 Speaker 2: You, dude. Comments are going to let you know. Pate's got you right now. I think the game's going to let me know. 01:10:46 Speaker 1: The show, the people watching the locker room can go back a few weeks and watch Josh Pate go, you talked me into this, Taylor. 01:10:51 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to piggyback that. 01:10:53 Speaker 1: I think he used the word specifically piggyback. 01:10:55 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, look at our track records over the last few weeks. Who would you trust, yourself or me? I don't know what I'm talking about. You've been on a roll. 01:11:04 Speaker 2: Willie C. You got this. Hey, that is true. 01:11:06 Speaker 1: You're the hottest hand here right now. 01:11:08 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:11:10 Speaker 1: It all changed in a week. 01:11:12 Speaker 2: Wow. Says the quiet thing out loud. Wow. Could all change in one week. It's crazy. 01:11:17 Speaker 1: What changes this week between Texas and LSU, huh? LSU, four and a half points. Total in that game is 46 and a half. 01:11:25 Speaker 2: Lane, man. Got to win a big game. Where are you at, dude? 01:11:28 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 01:11:31 Speaker 2: I'm interested in this. What are you doing? I'm interested to see where you go here. What are you thinking, buddy? Four and a half means that FanDuel would favor LSU on a neutral field over Texas. They should. 01:11:44 Speaker 1: Okay. 01:11:45 Speaker 2: This is when Leavitt... Go ahead and finish your thought and then put a pin on that comment. 01:11:55 Speaker 1: It's LSU. 01:11:56 Speaker 2: It's LSU. When Leavitt is protected. Now, you got to block Colin Simmons. Mm-hmm. 01:12:03 Speaker 3: When he's protected, this is the most efficient offense in the country. Do they have a run game? They don't necessarily have a run game right now. When I watch Texas-Mizzou, I feel like Mizzou lost it more than Texas won it. 01:12:14 Speaker 2: When I watch LSU-Bama, I feel. 01:12:19 Speaker 3: Not the passion I feel about Texas-Mizzou, but part of me is like, LSU kind of lost that game more than Alabama won that game. Alabama took Awesome, explosive plays. And when they got into the red zone, it's like my hat's off to Ryan Grubb because there's nobody stopping the creativity that he has dialed up against defenses. But as far as like in between the 20s and moving the ball, like LSU had so many opportunities. And then what's his name? Is it Luke Metz? Yep. 01:12:46 Speaker 2: When he put his face under Sam Levin's body. Never the same. 01:12:50 Speaker 3: Levin didn't know what was going on after that. I'm talking chin music. And then the next play, it's fourth and three. My man's open. My man's open over there. But he can't see it because he's just dazed and confused from Luke Metz putting his. 01:13:04 Speaker 2: Face underneath Levin's chin. 01:13:08 Speaker 3: But I like LSU. They can stop the run. They can get after the quarterback. Arch Manning, like, it's the same type of shit, bro. And they're on the road in Death Valley. I like LSU. I like LSU minus four and a half. 01:13:22 Speaker 2: I like LSU for five years. Thank you. Thank you. They haven't won yet, but thank you. They will. 01:13:33 Speaker 1: So when you said that four and a half points, they'd be at a neutral site, they would still be favored. Alabama was dogs by five and a half points? 01:13:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, five and a half, six and a half, something like that. Got you. 01:13:46 Speaker 1: LSU versus unranked teams. Their defense gives up 10.2 points per game. The versus ranked teams this year is 32.7. That's a difference. 01:13:54 Speaker 2: That's a big difference. 01:13:56 Speaker 1: I agree that Texas' worst gets their ass beat by LSU, but Texas has been a better football team. They're not great in any category except for finishing drives. I think they're like 94% in the red zone. That's what Alabama did a great job of. That's what LSU struggles in. Between the 25s, they're absolutely incredible. The right tackle for LSU. 01:14:20 Speaker 2: Was not great. Then he gets hurt. 01:14:22 Speaker 1: And now you got Simmons. You talk about protection. That's a huge thing. I stare at Texas and I just think, yeah, Texas is going to win this game outright. But I've spent the whole year. 01:14:38 Speaker 2: With LSU. 01:14:40

Speaker 1: And now we're in the middle of November and I gotta stay with it. So I'll go LSU minus four and a half. I don't believe in this pick at all. But I'm going to go four units. 01:14:55 Speaker 2: Okay. 01:14:56 Speaker 1: Because my unit size doesn't matter on my confidence. I said that before the show started. 01:14:59 Speaker 2: So give me LSU. 01:15:01 Speaker 1: Josh? 01:15:02 Speaker 4: I've got to be really tactical here. Last week, do you feel like LSU got pretty consistent pressure on Keelan Russell? He was flushed a lot. Like, Keelan Russell did a ton of work last week. Because they got pressure on him. He had some free runners in his face. They just didn't get him down a whole lot. Texas is 124th in the country in sacks allowed. So you can get to Arch. They do not have a consistent offense. They have to hit some cat buster stuff on you. They didn't last week, ironically, versus Missouri and still won. But history, over the course of a season, says they have to do that. We finally get Death Valley at night. I get LSU one week off going eight times into the opponent's territory and only getting in the end zone once. You got to just sit on that all week. And now your back's against the wall. Your life's on the line. It's wounded animal mode. You know that you could throw a wrench in the opposing offense. Texas back to back road here. First time this year they've had that. I think LSU is going to win the game. But there is a lot of nervousness about laying four and a half to me. So I'm going to cowardly. Take LSU Moneyline for four units. 01:16:17 Speaker 1: Oh, no. 01:16:20 Speaker 2: That's kind of gay. Save it for Friday. Save it for Friday. 01:16:27 Speaker 1: You can't just take Texas plus four and a half? 01:16:29 Speaker 2: No. 01:16:30 Speaker 4: Because I think LSU is going to win. But it just has 23 to 20 written all over it to me. I'm going Moneyline. You know this is not me. You know I don't typically do this. 01:16:41 Speaker 2: I know you don't. I know you got Haynes behind the head right now. I can tell. It's not your most. 01:16:45 Speaker 1: You're uncomfortable with how you're hanging yourself, but you just know it's for the best. 01:16:47 Speaker 2: It's not your favorite moment. When you get in the car after this show, you're going to know I did the right thing. If they win by a field goal, I will take a shower immediately. I'll feel so nasty. Yeah. Yeah. You know? I'll celebrate in the shower. 01:17:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, you will. I got to see something. 01:17:02 Speaker 2: Go ahead. What do you got to see? 01:17:03 Speaker 4: Weather? 01:17:03 Speaker 2: You need to keep going. Checking weather? But I got to see something. Well, that's all the games. That's it. 01:17:08 Speaker 1: I'll keep going, though. Dog of the week. I'm going to think Georgia Tech plus 13.5 versus Clemson. 01:17:14 Speaker 2: Not high on Clemson. And Brent T. 01:17:17 Speaker 1: Him having an absolute meltdown for whatever reason. 01:17:19

Speaker 2: People hate on it. Kind of did it for me a little bit. So I'm going to go Georgia Tech. 01:17:22 Speaker 1: What are they? Two and seven? Aren't they terrible? 01:17:26 Speaker 2: They're bad. 01:17:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:17:27 Speaker 2: They inspire people. 01:17:27 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're bad. Yeah. See, I'll take them plus 13 and a half. Will's looking something up. I'll say his dog of the week. Wouldn't you know it. 01:17:36 Speaker 3: No, Boston College plus 29 and a half. 01:17:40 Speaker 2: Let down spot for Notre Dame. They're not going to lose, but Boston College is going to cover. Thank you. All right. 01:17:48 Speaker 4: I think Illinois is going to push UCLA this weekend. So I'll take Illinois plus 10 and a half against the University of California. 01:17:56 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that pick. 01:17:58 Speaker 1: It's also in my parlay this week. My parlay goes as such. Pitt, Moneyline, Illinois, plus 10.5. Miami, minus 13.5. Wake Forest, Moneyline. The total for that game is 1,010. Sorry, plus odds, plus 1,010. We'll still look at it up. 01:18:19 Speaker 2: No, I'm ready to rock. Illinois. Yeah, I got to make an audible. I got to call an audible. That is insane. I'm thinking about it right now. 01:18:30 Speaker 1: Based on everything that was said. 01:18:31 Speaker 2: I gotta call an audible. Crazy. 01:18:35 Speaker 1: Let me read Josh Pate's weekly parlay. Just the first like, Texas Tech money line. 01:18:40 Speaker 2: Look, a lot's changed in the last hour. So we're going to call an audible on that. What happened? Life happened. Life happened. I got in your head. I need to buy some time, so talk slow. 01:18:55 Speaker 3: Okay, here's what I'm going to do here for my part of life. I like Illinois plus ten and a half at UCLA. I like SMU Moneyline. I like Alabama, Moneyline. I like LSU, minus 4.5, hosting the Texas Longhorns. 01:19:22 Speaker 2: In that Missouri-Georgia total, we're going to bump it up a little bit, and we're going to go under 50.5. 01:19:27 Speaker 3: That is going to bring you plus 11.35. Courtesy of Willie C and the Fandome Sportsbook. 01:19:40 Speaker 2: That was good. 01:19:41 Speaker 4: I'm going to keep Baylor Moneyline. I'm going to keep Wake Forest Moneyline. I want to replace Texas Tech Moneyline with Oregon at the best number I can get, which I think was 11 and a half this morning, but I could be wrong because it's very unprofessional for me to just spring this on. 01:20:05 Speaker 2: People. Minus 10 and a half. I'll take Oregon minus 10 and a half. Oh, Jesus Christ. 01:20:11 Speaker 1: 1042. That's a good pull. 01:20:15 Speaker 2: Yeah. You got to go. It's not about me. It's about the future. It's about your kids. It's about my kids. Yeah. It's about my kids. 01:20:24 Speaker 1: All right. 01:20:24 Speaker 2: Plus 1280, which... Is that what it is? It's plus whatever it is. Hey. What was it? We're using our big computer. What was it? 01:20:32 Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha,

gotcha. 01:20:34 Speaker 2: Big computer, big computer. 1042. 1042. I'll take that. 01:20:36 Speaker 3: 1042. 01:20:36 Speaker 2: Apologies. It's a good hit. It's a good hit. 01:20:43 Speaker 4: What? 01:20:44 Speaker 1: Just, hey, all that talk about him getting your ass, it was always in the cards. 01:20:52 Speaker 2: What? 01:20:53 Speaker 1: It was on the SMU Wake Forest, and I was like, oh, he got you by saying the gift, and you're like, no. 01:20:59 Speaker 2: You already picked SMU. Willie New. I picked SMU. 01:21:01 Speaker 3: Yeah. 01:21:04 Speaker 2: What does that mean? It means you're a genius. 01:21:07 Speaker 1: I was having a conversation about like, hey, he got you. He fucking put you in a chokehold. And you're like, no. 01:21:14 Speaker 2: I walked in here with this story written down. 01:21:16 Speaker 1: You had this pick before we even walked in here. The way you were playing was like, you just made the decision like that. 01:21:22 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah. Of course, man. The reverse double bait. The reverse Dobie. I could have set it up. Hell yeah. And he did. Look, he played himself. What did I tell you in that too? Yeah, I know. Now here I am. Wait for us. Wiggling that foot. Trying to figure out. Yeah. 01:21:41 Speaker 1: Which is crazy because you did look at me and I go, I'm going to go the opposite. I'm going to go Oklahoma State. 01:21:46 Speaker 2: I changed my mind. Can't do that. Not in this show, man. No, no, no. You can't do that. Going money lines. To what we say. Money lines on four and a half point favorites. Crazy. That's weak. We feel good, fellas. Any questions from the rafters? How's that futures looking, Taylor? Huh? LSU future. How's that looking? 01:22:08 Speaker 1: We talked about it last week. 01:22:09 Speaker 2: Oh, shit. Who's coming in? 01:22:11 Speaker 3: What? 01:22:12 Speaker 1: That's your guy? 01:22:13 Speaker 2: I don't know. He was just waiting out there when I got here. 01:22:15 Speaker 3: All right. 01:22:17 Speaker 2: We got packages showing up out of nowhere. We got people showing up out of nowhere. What future did you take on LSU? The same Leavitt Heisman? I took him to Heisman and won the SEC. That's all. 01:22:25 Speaker 1: And I said, this week, Alabama, we get back. 01:22:27 Speaker 2: Hey, how's it looking? How's it looking, bud? Not good. 01:22:30 Speaker 1: Appreciate that. 01:22:32 Speaker 2: Whatever, dude. 01:22:32 Speaker 1: Alabama can't run the football. We'll see you guys next time. Big hugs, kind of kisses. 01:22:39 Speaker 5: Must be 21 plus and present in select States for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas star casino or 18 plus and present in DC first online real money wager only $ 5. First deposit required. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets which expire seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit fanduel.com slash RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. or visit ndgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24-7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPE-NY in New York.