Full Transcript for Bugonia: Lanthimos, Emma Stone and Jesse Plemons, the weirdest 3some in Hollywood.

00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:04.439 the revelation maybe. I don't know. 00:04:01.159 --> 00:04:05.759 By the way, spoiler alert. She is an 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.240 alien. 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:09.599 Oh yeah, really said thank you the 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:11.120 podcast is there. Is that That's it. All 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:12.439 right. 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:15.120 Um 00:04:12.439 --> 00:04:16.879 Did you guys remember the opening? So in 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.399 the opening 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.399 we see her 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:22.879 waking up in the morning. 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.560 She does her jujitsu, whatever her MMA 00:04:22.879 --> 00:04:26.959 thing. She's rich and powerful. 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.959 >> They they are not working with the bees 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.599 at the opening? Yeah, 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:33.039 okay. You see bees at the beginning, but 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:35.640 then you see a parallel between the two 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:37.920 of them like the two the two guys and 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:39.360 her. And they are poor and their life 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:41.480 really sucks. 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:43.319 But she's awesome and she's rich and she 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:44.600 gets into her really expensive car and 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:46.480 then she goes to the building and 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:47.680 everybody is like oh my god. Everybody 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:48.960 loves her. 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.840 Quick question, does anybody know what 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.839 Begonia means? 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:57.360 Something linked with the bees, no? 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:59.120 So do you guys remember in French this 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:01.199 concept called the spontaneous 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:02.800 generation? 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:04.879 In the Middle Ages they thought if you 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:08.040 throw some dirty clothes or something in 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:10.839 the corner of a a wall mice are going to 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:12.520 appear out of thin air. 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:15.479 So that's what they they thought if if 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:17.240 an ox like a cow dies 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:19.439 suddenly there's going to be bees that 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.800 generated by the universe. 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.680 Because they didn't think oh yeah, it's 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.920 just going to attract bees that are 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.319 around. They're just going to come out 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:27.480 of the meat, okay. 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:28.759 So that's that's what Begonia means. I 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.560 don't know how it's really related to 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.519 the movie, but it's important to know 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:33.000 it. 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:35.839 It's a good trivia. 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:37.879 Yeah, it's very nice. Um 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:40.199 Emma Stone, guys. Emma Stone, she's 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:40.800 amazing. She's fantastic. 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:42.599 So boring. 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.199 >> She's good in everything. She was good 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:46.280 in the previous Yorgos Lanthimos. I 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:48.800 think she made two. 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:50.159 She did The Poor Thing which was 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:50.920 amazing. 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.200 Uh 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:55.720 and in this one she's really really 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:58.719 tortured by Yorgos Lanthimos. She's they 00:05:55.720 --> 00:06:01.040 shave her head. She's covered in What 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:03.240 what is it that they cover her with? 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:06.200 Some kind of cream or something. Yeah, 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:07.840 with antihistaminic, no? Something like 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:10.879 that. I forgot what it is, but that's so 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:13.839 she can't communicate with the 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:15.600 spaceship or whatever. So the two guys 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:16.799 the two guys that you were saying they 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.520 they are expecting there's going to be a 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:21.759 solar eclipse. 00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:24.879 And when the solar eclipse happen, the 00:06:21.759 --> 00:06:26.719 spaceship with the king of the Andromeda 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:29.120 galaxy is going to come 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:31.720 and destroy the planet or whatever. I 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.920 forgot exactly what what it was. 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:34.520 But um 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.040 we're supposed to not believe him like 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:38.079 yeah, sure, bro. We we don't believe 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:39.319 you. They're crazy. They're like 00:06:38.079 --> 00:06:40.639 people living in the woods. They're 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:42.560 hillbillies. 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:43.879 Um 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.480 They 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:47.560 So he's got a problem because his mom 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:49.520 died. 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:52.280 His mom died because she was she died 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:54.519 because of the corporation or or 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:55.439 Or she's not dead actually. Yeah, hold 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:58.000 on. 00:06:55.439 --> 00:07:00.480 And I Did you see who the his mom is? 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:02.839 Alicia Silverstone. She's amazing. 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:03.759 I didn't recognize this Yeah, me 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:05.599 neither. 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.839 Look at us. Look at us, Hugo. Look at 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:08.680 us. It's been it's been a while, you 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:12.239 know? 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:13.920 Um yeah, so um 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:15.960 he 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:19.280 we are supposed to believe that he hates 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:20.599 her and he's traumatized because 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:22.639 what happened with his mom. He's got 00:07:20.600 -->

00:07:25.920 this flashback where 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:27.919 um his mom is taken into the air for 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:29.439 some alien [ __ ] or whatever, but it 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:33.879 that's not what it is. 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:35.719 Um So he they decide to kidnap uh 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:36.800 Emma Stone. 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:38.560 And the way they kidnap her is 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.120 ridiculous. 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.600 It was again like a Coen brothers 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:43.519 movies. The two guys that are like 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:45.200 sucks. And you know the the mask that 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:48.599 they have. 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:51.039 Yeah. You know who who you recognize the 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:54.400 actress. 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:57.040 The one from France. Very famous. She 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:58.399 was married with Brad Pitt. Cannot 00:07:57.040 --> 00:07:59.520 remember her name. 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.959 Anyway, 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:03.639 the 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:05.799 Lanthimos he he is a fan of her. He's a 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:08.759 big big fan of Friends series and he 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:11.480 asked the the authorization to her to to 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:12.319 use her face for the mask. Hold on. Oh 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:14.439 yeah? 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:16.399 Yeah. So they 00:08:14.439 --> 00:08:17.879 somehow kidnap her. She fights them off. 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:19.399 She's really good at fighting because we 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:21.600 see in the morning that she does some 00:08:19.399 --> 00:08:22.799 MMA things. She's got a personal trainer 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:25.400 and everything. 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:27.680 Um and then the movie starts where she's 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:31.319 in the basement in their house. 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:33.560 And he accuses her of being an alien. 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:35.599 And that's when everything starts. 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.759 We are still believing that she's that 00:08:35.599 --> 00:08:39.000 she's not an alien and he's crazy and 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:40.439 all that stuff. 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:43.639 But that's when they're like 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:46.600 Go ahead. The the thing is 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:47.639 we still believe we know we know cinema 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.040 and we 00:08:47.639 --> 00:08:52.799 believe also that he's a it's an option 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.799 for the ending of the movie. For me in 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:58.639 I thought that 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:59.439 they get this option open to finish it. 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.840 I 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.560 start when I 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:05.280 when just 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:07.319 when the actor said it I said okay, it's 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:08.559 an option for the ending. I 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:10.360 I start 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:13.279 I thought about it. 00:09:10.360 --> 00:09:15.399 Oh Hugo, I have a question for you guys. 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:19.519 Because at one moment I saw that it was 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:21.840 possible as well. And I believed it. 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:24.639 At which moment did you start to believe 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:26.720 that she could be an alien? 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:28.879 The problem is and the movie is good for 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.800 that. 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:32.879 In a moment you think 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:35.000 it's an option. After you you think 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:37.559 okay, forget about it and you rethink 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.120 again to say ah it can be possible 00:09:37.559 --> 00:09:40.799 to to 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:43.759 to just say no after. 00:09:40.799 --> 00:09:45.919 That that that things was well done. 00:09:43.759 --> 00:09:48.519 It's constantly between uh 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:50.719 Yeah, giving you clues and taking off 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:54.319 the clues and uh yeah. But for my for 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:56.960 myself, when she she is electrocuted and 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:59.040 you see that he puts more than 220 V or 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:00.800 something like that and nobody any human 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:03.599 being should did should be dead with 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:05.719 that. So, I might first clue saying that 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:10.000 to myself, yeah, if she can resist this 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:11.639 intensity, she's probably an alien, so. 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.000 But, like you said, you know, every 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:14.720 every uh 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:16.600 every the rest of the movie, it keeps 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:18.920 telling you things that make you believe 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:21.279 that she could as well not be an alien, 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.279 so. 00:10:21.480 --> 00:10:25.920 What's the name of that guy? 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:27.920 The actor? Jesse Plemons. 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:30.439 >> Jesse Plemons. You You You talk about 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:32.120 him as done but guys, this actor is 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:34.120 amazing. 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:36.480 Every time I see him, 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:38.879 he's good. Even if the movie is bad, if 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:42.120 the movie is [ __ ] he's a fantastic 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:44.399 actor. I remember this movie Civil War. 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:46.759 He just played 5 minutes inside. 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:48.000 That's the only good things of this 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.200 movie. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:51.840 He was in Breaking Bad, no? 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.320 Yes, he was the the little Nazi guy. 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:56.360 Fantastic. Fantastic. 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:58.160 >> Yeah. Jesse Plemons guy. And the 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:01.360 the games between them, the 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:04.319 conversation, the acting between them is 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.720 working very very

well. 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:09.120 The interaction 00:11:05.720 --> 00:11:10.639 really fantastic between them. 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:13.560 Dominates him 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:14.960 psychologically. She makes him kill his 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:17.399 mom. 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:18.560 With Oh, yeah. He He didn't He didn't 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.679 think 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:22.599 that he's going to kill his mom. Nobody 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:24.199 believed her, like 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:26.399 But, that that's that's something which 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:28.480 is very surprising because during all 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:31.159 the movie, she's trying to convince him 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:31.800 that she's not an alien and it doesn't 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:33.360 uh 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:36.319 uh he doesn't believe her. 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.919 And he continued to to, you know, to try 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:40.480 to make sure that she will not 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:42.679 manipulate him. And the moment she tells 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:44.920 him she tells him to, you know, to put 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:47.439 this special product in uh 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:49.559 in uh in the mother at the hospital, he 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:52.200 believes her right away and he does the 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:52.199 thing, you know. 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:57.360 That's true. So, there's also the fact 00:11:55.200 --> 00:11:59.839 that he's a beekeeper 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.839 and he thinks uh the company that she's 00:11:59.839 --> 00:12:02.880 running 00:12:00.839 --> 00:12:05.240 is killing the bees. 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:06.679 I don't think if they explain why, but 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.720 that's because the alien want to kill 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:13.359 the bees for some reason. 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:15.200 Can we talk also about his cousin, Don? 00:12:13.360 --> 00:12:17.519 He's So, his cousin Don apparently is a 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:20.560 real uh 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:22.519 person who is uh maybe autistic or 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:24.199 challenged in some way. He's really 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.399 good, too. He's awesome. 00:12:24.200 --> 00:12:28.000 You sure about that? 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:29.959 No, I'm not sure anymore. I'm not I'm 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.879 not sure about anything. Because from 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:35.160 from what from what I saw, it seems to 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:37.320 be uh uh a real actor, not specially 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:38.719 disabled or something. I mean 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.280 we have to 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.639 How does she make him kill himself? She 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:44.439 doesn't make him kill himself, right? He 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:46.120 just kills himself the way 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:47.520 I think 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:49.399 I think he just kills himself. She did 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:51.879 She doesn't make him do it. 00:12:49.399 --> 00:12:55.919 Yeah, because she she she convinces him 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:58.159 to to come with her to the mothership 00:12:55.919 --> 00:13:00.159 and uh because he want to go in space, 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.399 you know? And uh she says, "Okay, I will 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.600 uh 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.439 get me free and I will uh I will bring 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:07.839 you with me in space." And once they 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.720 agree, maybe I don't know, 10 seconds 00:13:07.839 --> 00:13:11.360 after, he decide to kill himself, you 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:15.560 It's a spoiler for me. 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:17.399 It's a process. But, first he he just uh 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:19.279 when he 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:21.120 when 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:24.000 stopped balls, you know, when he he put 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:26.120 the syringe to to 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:27.879 to cancel his uh his testicles, you 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:30.200 know? 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:32.879 First things. After he torture her with 00:13:30.200 --> 00:13:34.920 electricity. After the cop is coming, so 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:36.159 it's a long process for for him, you 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:39.319 know. 00:13:36.159 --> 00:13:42.759 So, he kill himself he 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:45.640 imagining me in his position. 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:45.639 I prefer not. 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:51.279 It's the story of two cousins, right? 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.759 A bit like us, Kelce. A bit like us. One 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:54.759 of them is right 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:56.319 about everything and the other one is 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.439 kind of [ __ ] 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:00.560 Uh that's what I'm saying. It's a It's a 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:02.120 a little bit relatable. You only 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:04.119 discover that at the end, you know, that 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:05.720 he was right, so. 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:07.000 Right. That's true. 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:08.440 Um 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:11.078 So, 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:12.680 who's the bad guy in this movie? 00:14:11.078 --> 00:14:14.559 Is there a bad guy? 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:15.319 Oh, yeah, of course. 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:16.239 Uh 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:19.000 it's [clears throat] Emma Stone. When 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.680 you finish the movie, Emma Stone are the 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.559 the bad girls. 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:24.719 It doesn't seem like she wanted to do 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.759 it. It seems like the like her dad, the 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:28.759 king, told her to do it. 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.879 Yeah, we have too much immigration. Go 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.600 back to your [ __ ] planet and leave us 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:34.399 alone, all right? 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:36.720 One thing I liked is that scene at the 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:38.399 end when everybody dies. Make hers great 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:39.399

again, all right? 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:42.759 When 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:44.078 when everybody dies, you see a dog 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.439 alive. 00:14:44.078 --> 00:14:46.000 Which means 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:47.480 uh 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:49.559 the animals 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:51.440 are not dead. I'm okay with it. 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:53.799 They They left all the animals uh live. 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:56.320 >> Yeah, it it was for American uh public, 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:57.559 yeah, this sequence, I think. 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.280 Yeah, yeah, we couldn't take it if the 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:00.838 dogs are dead, dude. Americans, we don't 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:04.078 we don't mess around. 00:15:00.839 --> 00:15:06.000 Um okay, so Jesse Plemons was the good 00:15:04.078 --> 00:15:07.519 guy the whole time. He knew everything, 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:09.480 but he did some crazy stuff, though, 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:11.519 right? When she finds the 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:12.879 the room with all the weird serial 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:15.480 killer 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:17.480 corpses and stuff like that. 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:19.440 Uh 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:20.600 He says she says to him, "It's too late 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.480 now." Because she asked him, "How many 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:24.959 have you killed?" And I think he says 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:26.200 two. Is that correct? 00:15:24.958 --> 00:15:27.838 And one again, yeah, it's two. One 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:29.000 again, this sequence is fantastic 00:15:27.839 --> 00:15:32.200 because 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:33.399 you think she's she's playing the role 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:36.520 to to 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:38.439 to get out of this. "How many Andromedan 00:15:36.519 --> 00:15:40.078 you you kill?" "I've killed two." But, 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:42.320 she was serious. 00:15:40.078 --> 00:15:45.039 So, the mix 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:46.680 is at this time at this moment 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:49.078 one again, I say, "Okay, she's not an 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.078 alien." 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.720 Yeah, that's true. 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:55.919 >> To answer your question, you know, 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:57.759 in my opinion, if I didn't ask any 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:59.679 question. 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:01.639 I don't care. It's It's a podcast, you 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.559 know, we need to 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:05.360 to make it clear. 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.479 If you put yourself in a perspective 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:09.480 from different character, there is no 00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:11.680 good and bad because 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:14.000 uh Jesse Plemons is good to do he is 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:16.039 good in in his own opinion and in his 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:17.159 own perspective. He He does the right 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:19.559 choices. 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:20.919 And Emma Stone as an alien at the end, 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.838 you understand that she's doing the good 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:25.919 decision as well, but so it's difficult 00:16:22.839 --> 00:16:28.360 to say if there is a good guy or bad guy 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:31.039 in my opinion, yeah. 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:32.959 So, She She's the the the bad guys. Come 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:35.679 on, guys. She's come from another 00:16:32.958 --> 00:16:36.799 galaxy. What the [ __ ] is she's doing 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:38.799 here? 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.799 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she she has the 00:16:38.799 --> 00:16:42.559 she knows how humans uh 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:45.279 human human uh 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:47.399 uh people are doing on the on the planet 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:49.799 since the beginning of the time 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:52.199 and she basically decide that uh you 00:16:49.799 --> 00:16:55.078 know, humans can't uh 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.280 can't manage themselves, so. Mhm. It's 00:16:55.078 --> 00:16:58.120 like we've been 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:00.240 European been to to America, South 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:02.560 America, yeah, they are stupid. We're 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:03.440 going to teach them the way to to live, 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.879 so 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:07.051 no point of it. 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.839 Are you talking about Iran? 00:17:07.050 --> 00:17:09.559 >> [laughter] 00:17:07.838 --> 00:17:11.759 >> What? Not yet. 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:14.159 Why do you talk about Iran, though? 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:15.879 What's about it? 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:18.439 Uh because it's uh it's a new It's a 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:19.959 parking lot uh called Iran and there's 00:17:18.439 --> 00:17:21.360 going to be McDonald's and and 00:17:19.959 --> 00:17:24.320 everything is going to be great. 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:28.198 >> Costco and everything. Trump building 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:30.559 everywhere. Hotels. Um okay. So, did 00:17:28.199 --> 00:17:32.240 Michelle, which is Emma Stone, did she 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.599 win 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:36.160 or 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:39.399 did she lose? Because did she Was she 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:42.240 going to destroy mankind anyway? 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.240 I don't think we know. 00:17:42.679 --> 00:17:45.080 Right? 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:50.880 I mean uh from her perspective 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.279 uh when when when when she kill 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:53.440 everyone, 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:56.480 uh she 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:58.120 didn't look that that happy to do it. 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:00.200 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Yeah, 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:02.159 exactly. 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:04.759 But, did she decide all by herself or 00:18:02.160 --> 00:18:06.560 no? She She consulted 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:08.559 the the 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.839 the all the people uh 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:12.639 above her, but I don't know 00:18:10.839 -->

00:18:14.000 did she had the the last decision or 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:16.640 something or 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:18.440 could she do it without the consensus of 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:20.560 the other ones? 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:23.640 I think she was ordered to do it. 00:18:20.559 --> 00:18:27.440 Something we didn't talk about it 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:30.840 when she when they cut her hair. 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:33.600 Jesse Plemons says they communicate with 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:35.799 the the mothership with the hair 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:36.786 and it was true. 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:37.240 No, 00:18:36.787 --> 00:18:38.919 >> [laughter] 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:40.319 >> everything he said was was true. He even 00:18:38.919 --> 00:18:41.280 knew about the the shape of the 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:44.639 spaceship and everything. 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.319 >> Yeah, how how how did he discover that? 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:46.600 Yeah, exactly. 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:49.678 >> By the way, the movie 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:50.839 the the movie is so so uh so made well 00:18:49.679 --> 00:18:52.679 that you 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:55.000 you don't take the time to ask yourself 00:18:52.679 --> 00:18:56.440 how did she how did he find all these 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:58.960 the answer, you know? At the end, I I 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.000 love the the closest that they have, you 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.519 know? 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.599 Uh that's what I wanted to talk about. 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:06.158 Yeah, I love it. Like the clothes are 00:19:03.599 --> 00:19:08.279 really like uh a Michel Gondry Michel 00:19:06.159 --> 00:19:10.800 Gondry type thing, you know? 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:13.240 Like a weird uh What What are those 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:15.039 things? How they walk? They walk 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.759 and you hear the weird music. It looks 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.359 like the Teletubbies. 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:21.359 Yeah. 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.359 That's what he looks like. 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:25.720 And there she comes out of the water and 00:19:24.679 --> 00:19:27.840 stuff. 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:29.079 Uh yeah, so weird sequence. It's like 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:30.319 not supposed to be serious. Is it 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:32.678 supposed to be serious? I don't know. 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:35.359 Maybe maybe it's a dream or The movie is 00:19:32.679 --> 00:19:37.880 kind of comedy. You laugh sometimes. 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:40.519 Dark comedy. Yeah, dark comedy. It's 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:42.679 cynical. It's uh you have some uh 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:44.200 a little bits of David Lynch vibes 00:19:42.679 --> 00:19:46.280 sometimes. 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:48.240 And yeah, it's very a mix of different 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:50.158 things, yeah. It's It's um 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.359 I've seen few things about the the 00:19:50.159 --> 00:19:55.120 Korean movie Save the Green Planet and 00:19:52.359 --> 00:19:57.399 it's quite it's the same scenery and the 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:58.559 story is that the the director Jang 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.759 Joon-hwan, 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:02.519 I don't know. Sorry about Korean friend. 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.903 Whoa, whoa, whoa. After last week, 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:04.599 you're going to do that? 00:20:03.903 --> 00:20:06.640 >> [laughter] 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:09.439 >> If we had Korean friends. 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:11.480 Yeah, well, they are not like European. 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:13.680 They won't be upset about it. 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:15.720 Um but he was supposed to do the 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:18.080 American movie and because he was sick, 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:19.680 they proposed the the scenery to 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:21.720 Lanthimos. 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:24.000 It was in order. The movie is in order. 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:25.680 It's not a project of Lanthimos or 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:27.319 whatever. So 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:29.440 And um 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:32.960 I'm quite interested about the the work 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:35.240 he'd done because when you watch what is 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:36.920 as possible to see on YouTube and 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:39.039 it look interesting. 00:20:36.920 --> 00:20:42.440 It look 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:45.559 like all like quite different in the 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:47.200 in the the shooting. And 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.839 it's a shame that we we couldn't find it 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:51.200 because it look very very interesting 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:53.240 and I think it will be it will be better 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:54.840 than the American version. I'm sure of 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:56.839 it. 00:20:54.839 --> 00:20:59.839 I watched the the trailer of it and it 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:01.679 looks crazier in term of 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:02.480 you know, the characters and the the 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:04.600 sceneries. 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:05.240 >> One moment they are doing karate and all 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:07.559 this stuff. 00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:09.200 >> Yeah, a little bit like you know, you a 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:10.919 little bit like you are watching a 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:13.360 Japanese show, you know, where they are 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:15.880 all crazy doing some crazy stuff. Looks 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:15.879 like that. 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:19.839 Do you guys remember that scene where 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:20.959 she tells him, "Your mom is about to 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.919 die. 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:24.200 You have to go take the fluid that's in 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.519 my trunk 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:27.960 Mhm. in the trunk of my car and you have 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:30.440 to go to the hospital as fast as you 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:32.880 can." And the movie is shot most of the 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:34.720 time with those wide angles.

00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:36.520 Really wide angle, like almost like it's 00:21:34.720 --> 00:21:38.720 a GoPro or something. 00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:41.519 And you see him on his bike 00:21:38.720 --> 00:21:43.240 crying and going as fast as he can. 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:45.000 Such an intense scene. I love that 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:47.960 scene. Yeah. And have you have you 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.319 noticed that how how he's skinny? 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:50.200 Yeah. 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:51.559 >> Yeah. He's extremely skinny. Yeah, I 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:54.000 don't know if he 00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:54.240 did that for the for the movie or for 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.720 another 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:59.799 >> he did. Because He's extremely skinny, 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:03.120 yeah. In audio If you compare with Civil 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:05.559 War, Civil War is quite fat. 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:06.919 So me, honestly, I I think it's going to 00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:09.559 be 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:11.840 one of the best actor in in the next 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:14.519 year because he's already amazing. He's 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:16.039 already awesome. He he is amazing. 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:20.599 Honestly uh 00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:23.000 Killers of the Flower Moon. Um 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:25.039 Barry Seal with uh Tom Cruise. Also, I 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:27.759 don't know if you remember this movie. 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:30.399 Um well, of course, the he did also 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.960 Jungle Cruise. Can talk about it. The 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.200 master 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:36.960 >> What movie with Tom Cruise? 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:39.080 Uh Barry Seal. He's um 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:40.480 He's driving airplane. He's taking drugs 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:41.399 in South America. It's a very good 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.839 movie. 00:22:41.400 --> 00:22:47.720 American something, yeah. Barry Seal. In 00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:49.919 French, it's called American Traffic. 00:22:47.720 --> 00:22:52.360 American what? 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:53.800 The the one with Tom Cruise as a drug 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:54.678 dealer or something like that. That's 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:57.480 the one. 00:22:54.679 --> 00:23:00.000 Yeah. Drug dealer in '70s. 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:01.279 It's Blow but with Tom Cruise and it's a 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:03.599 different story. 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:05.319 Anyway, DC Pleaman's he plays with Tom 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:08.159 Cruise again in the next year in two 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:08.159 movie Digger. 00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:15.880 Very interesting. Very very interesting. 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:17.720 And I think it's going to be maybe a 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:20.800 a way for Tom Cruise to get his Oscar. I 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.799 wish. I wish for him. 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:25.000 I think Emma Stone needs something, too, 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:27.160 cuz she really really 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:29.440 commits 100%. 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:30.920 But she already has got an Oscar, no? 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.440 For what movie? For Was it for Poor 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.480 Things? 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.640 Ah, yeah. 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:36.720 Exactly. 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.679 And you guys haven't seen Poor Things? 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.799 Yeah, she got an Oscar. 00:23:38.679 --> 00:23:42.120 No? 00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:44.399 No, no, I didn't see it. 00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:44.399 Oh. 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:47.320 Yeah, she got an Academy Award 00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.240 performance for best actress for Poor 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:49.519 Things. 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:50.920 All right, never mind. She's already 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:52.000 gone. She doesn't need another one. It's 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.679 fine. Let's give it to somebody Yeah, 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:56.200 she she she will have another one, I'm 00:23:53.679 --> 00:23:57.800 sure. Before the end of the calendar. 00:23:56.200 --> 00:24:00.720 She was on a she will have another one. 00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:04.079 And just to to to say my opinion about 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:06.039 it, both actor, I mean, they are amazing 00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:08.279 you know, individually and together. I 00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:10.960 mean, it's incredible because they have 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:13.200 so much range, you know, in the face, in 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:15.079 the way they talk, in the way they act. 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:17.039 And it's uh 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:20.039 they can communicate the tension of the 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:22.599 scene and they make you believe and 100% 00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:25.279 on what they are acting. So it's yeah, 00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:27.279 very good. Completely. It's I I started 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.200 I started to enjoy the movie because of 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:31.879 DC Pleaman's. I started to wanted to be 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:33.679 involved the movie because of him and 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:36.280 yeah, he made me 00:24:33.679 --> 00:24:38.160 if if if it was not for DC Pleaman's or 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:40.799 Emma Stone, probably the movie would 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:42.640 wouldn't have been that good. So 00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:44.399 Agree. I agree. 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:46.600 And another thing about Emma Stone is 00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:48.320 most Hollywood actresses 00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.919 they look good and you know, they have 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.119 the nice makeup on and they do their 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:54.440 scenes and they look nice. 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:57.119 She's disgusting in the whole movie. 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:59.640 Absolutely horrendous. No hair. She's 00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:02.079 covered in stuff. She's weirdly naked 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:04.520 and on the floor and stuff. She did it. 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:05.960 She She

doesn't care. She doesn't 00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:06.879 Yes, yes. 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.279 You know? 00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:09.080 She's fantastic. 00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:11.839 She's 00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:11.839 >> would you guys 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:16.799 What were you going to say? 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:19.399 >> I said 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:20.678 she's so fantastic that 00:25:19.400 --> 00:25:22.519 what we're going to talk What we're 00:25:20.679 --> 00:25:26.960 going to say about her? 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:29.200 Every time I see her she's perfect. So 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:31.440 it's kind of boring to talk about Emma 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:33.840 Stone. We can't say anything except 00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:35.360 she's amazing. 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:38.119 You know she is. She's the new Meryl 00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:39.319 Streep. I was I was thinking exactly 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:40.959 that, yeah. 00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:43.919 Sebastian was a big fan of Meryl Streep. 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:43.920 Can tell us, Sebastian? 00:25:44.507 --> 00:25:49.240 >> [laughter] 00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.039 >> Especially in Madison I don't remember 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.279 the 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.599 Madison Road something. 00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:54.599 >> of Madison. 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:56.199 Isn't it The Devil Wears Prada? Like the 00:25:54.599 --> 00:25:56.240 latest thing she did and she's all 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:58.319 sassy. 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.920 >> I'm I'm watching I'm watching for the 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:02.678 sequel like you cannot imagine, yeah. 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.560 Kramer versus Kramer again. I'm waiting 00:26:02.679 --> 00:26:06.720 for you, too. 00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:07.639 Kramer versus Kramer, she is she is just 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:08.640 she 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:10.120 blow 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.440 blow my mind. 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:14.439 The Deer Hunter counts. 00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:16.320 Amazing also. But the problem with The 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:18.480 Deer Hunter, you have 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:20.439 you have Christopher Walken and Robert 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:23.200 De Niro. They they are eating the 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:24.400 screen. 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:27.759 All right. 00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:31.200 Um let's talk about the cinematography. 00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:34.000 It's a little bit So it reminds me 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:36.880 in Poor Things, there's a lot of 00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:39.440 um a lot of very wide angle, very very 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:40.760 almost fish eye, almost like a 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:44.000 uh 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:46.079 '90s skateboard VHS videos where it's 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:48.200 all in fish eye, you know? It looks 00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:49.799 almost like that. I think he Yorgos 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:52.039 Lanthimos is really starting to change 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:54.519 his style. Because it's been two movies 00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.799 now with really wide angles. 00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:58.240 And I like it. He's really good at it. 00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.519 The tone the the colors are very very 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:02.599 warm. It's a very warm movie, very 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:03.879 orange. It looks beautiful when he's on 00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:06.240 his bike At the beginning, they go on 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.800 their bikes on the road. 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:12.160 It looks really beautiful. It looks like 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:14.678 a '80s '80s movie with all these nice uh 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:16.600 uh landscapes and stuff. That you talk 00:27:14.679 --> 00:27:19.519 about it because it's the on on the 00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:23.199 three movie or doing with this pellicule 00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:25.759 in the 21st century. You have 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:28.400 a battle after another. 35 mm I'm 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:31.160 talking about it. The Brutalist and this 00:27:28.400 --> 00:27:32.920 one. It's a very typical uh 00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.840 pellicule. 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.440 You're talking about the film? 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:39.399 The pellicule. 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:41.720 The film. Exactly the film the 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:43.320 film the screen on nature. But not not 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.960 the lens. 00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.559 Not the lens. The the pellicule I think 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:49.079 we say in English the 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:51.480 I think it's film. 00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:54.399 Yeah. But okay. Pellicule. 00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:56.880 Pellicule. 00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:59.519 Okay. Let's go with pellicule. 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:02.320 Um yeah. I think it's wonderful. I've 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:04.879 been So to prepare for the the video of 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:08.439 the podcast, I've been taking 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:10.080 screenshots and photos of the movie. 00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.600 And every photos I take, they're 00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.759 beautiful. 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:16.359 Every time I I pause on the movie, it 00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:19.000 looks fantastic. Incredible. 00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:20.439 Every frame looks like a photography. 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.119 It's it's great. 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.000 Um I don't know who the cinematographer 00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.479 is cuz I didn't do a lot of work for 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.960 this movie cuz there's not a lot really 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:28.000 to say about the movie. It's a dark 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.559 comedy. 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:32.319 Um 00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:34.399 But yeah, fantastic. I hope he keeps he 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.639 keeps using all these new techniques 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:36.880 he's using. 00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.000 Cuz if you look at The Lobster, for 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.200 example 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:39.919 or 00:28:39.200 -->

00:28:41.720 um 00:28:39.919 --> 00:28:44.040 The Killing of a Sacred Deer. Did you 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:46.240 hear about this one? 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:48.158 It's also with Colin Farrell. Yeah, 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:49.319 yeah. I heard about it but I didn't 00:28:48.159 --> 00:28:51.800 watch it. 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.799 It's an insane absolutely insane movie. 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.079 Like you 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:57.519 completely crazy. There's magic and 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:58.918 everything in it. Uh but it's it's very 00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.039 conventional the way it's filmed. It's 00:28:58.919 --> 00:29:01.840 all 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.799 uh middle shot and then another long 00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:05.480 shot and middle shot, long shot. 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:07.480 Uh I just hope he keeps going like this. 00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:09.640 It's a little it's it's a a little bit 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:12.360 of fresh air, you know, to have somebody 00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.800 who's competent like that. Also, in The 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:16.199 Wickery 00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:20.000 you can feel uh 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:22.279 that he's got some really like an expert 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:25.200 to to turn the camera the camera around 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:27.279 the table. An example, one moment 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:29.360 he just climb on the table 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:31.079 to 00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:34.599 to get a fight and and you have all this 00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:36.399 camera is moving. He's really really 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.599 competent uh 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.040 uh 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:42.439 I'm not 00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:45.759 a movie maker as you all know now. Um I 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:48.920 really But The Wickery The Wickery 00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:53.559 is a kind of cinema. 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:56.160 Very rare. We don't have that much movie 00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:57.559 like that. And it's a genre that I 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.480 really love. 00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:01.319 And 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:03.400 All the sequence that you have in the in 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.720 the house or in the basement. 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.960 You have the camera move 00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:09.400 just 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.720 really well placed really 00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:13.640 Everything is 00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:16.200 is perfectly perfectly done. 00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.840 For a for a week long, you really really 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:20.480 need good actors. 00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:22.439 Imagine Ryan Reynolds and The Rock for 2 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.079 hours in a room. 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:25.600 My goodness. 00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.799 That would be the worst experience 00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.480 possible. 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.359 Do we have anything else to say about 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.960 this movie guys? 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.039 Many many things to say about it. I'm 00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:34.759 listening. 00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.440 Okay, first the music. 00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:40.640 It's fantastic. Music is is wonderful. 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.640 It is wonderful. 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:44.799 And the guy you only work with 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.840 Lanthimos. 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.279 That's the only thing. But we didn't 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.439 talk about the the main subject of the 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.839 movie. 00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.320 The satire. 00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:55.559 What what is criticizing? 00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:57.639 Is [clears throat] criticizing the 00:30:55.559 --> 00:31:00.679 the complete theory? 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:04.400 Is it criticizing the 00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.400 the capitalism? Mhm. 00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:07.920 So when you start the movie 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:13.200 I was waiting 00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:16.039 a deep criticize of the capitalism. 00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:17.360 It was done in a sense. But it 00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:18.399 it didn't dig 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.879 it just 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:23.800 just crept the surface. 00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:26.560 So me I was waiting 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.559 more more criticize of the capitalism 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:29.480 because 00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:31.519 I'm sure the Korean movie is about it. 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:31.519 Uh 00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:35.960 She 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:38.200 is a CEO of a company. 00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.200 You know what I mean? 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.279 Um 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:45.120 She's the CEO of a company and he's a 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:47.440 poor person suffering from the 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:49.239 consequence of that company doing 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.600 operating its business in the United 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.960 States or in the world or whatever. So 00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:54.240 yeah, that's but I don't think there's a 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.720 big 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:57.440 overt 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.640 criticism of 00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.679 capitalism in the movie apart from that. 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.840 You know what I mean? 00:32:00.679 --> 00:32:06.440 Exactly. If she wasn't an alien, yes, it 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:08.799 would be but Hey, also also she is a CEO 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.759 of not not not a 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:14.480 a big big company of course but 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.319 especially a pharmaceutical company. 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.400 And 00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.240 And in the actuality in the news, 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.679 remember a few years ago the the guy 00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:23.319 somehow was shot in the back. All 00:32:21.679 --> 00:32:25.880 American they were supporting the 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.839 shooter. So I was waiting something 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.960 deeper of

the 00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.359 of 00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:33.720 of the subject. 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:35.279 So I was a a bit 00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:37.360 disappointed that 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:39.920 it didn't just uh 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:43.319 it wasn't the subject finally, you know. 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:44.840 But I was waiting and I was 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.119 it was not. 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.319 Yeah, I think you can see it if you want 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:50.319 to see it 00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:52.079 in the movie that it it is a satire 00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:53.519 about capitalism and the destruction of 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:54.759 the of the environment and all that 00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:56.759 stuff but 00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.319 um 00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:00.799 I don't think the movie is designed for 00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.759 that. I think it's mostly a weird movie 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.759 with 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:07.000 two strong characters in a weird story 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:08.440 that's a little bit relatable to. But it 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.960 is not a movie that's designed to 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.920 criticize capitalism. You know what I 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:14.559 mean? 00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:17.440 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. The way the way 00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:20.000 the way he puts things is that 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.080 the main thing is like you said Julian 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.000 the story and after he gives you 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:26.399 information and he gives you the choice 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:29.319 to think about it and to make whatever 00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.320 you want with it. 00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.320 But Julian, come on. 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.599 Because you 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.559 you've seen the movie. 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.279 Is it 00:33:38.559 --> 00:33:43.159 you rewatched the movie to for for the 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.960 podcast but you watch it 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:48.000 years 2 years ago. I don't know totally. 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.000 No, like 6 months ago. The movie is not 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.000 even a year old. 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.480 >> Yeah. 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.880 But 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:56.679 you didn't thought about that that it's 00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:59.040 going to it will be a criticize a satire 00:33:56.679 --> 00:34:00.480 of the of the capitalism. I didn't think 00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.599 it was 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.599 um 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:07.119 really in your face like that. I see 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:08.720 that it's a subject that's relatable. 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:11.159 You know, okay yeah, she's the CEO of 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.039 course. Capitalism sucks and it destroys 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.960 the planet and all that stuff. 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:16.279 But it's mostly is she an alien or is 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:18.119 she not an alien? You know, that was 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.480 mostly the movie for me. 00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:24.319 Yeah, but 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:27.918 in a sense she is the CEO of a huge 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:30.760 capitalism company and she is 00:34:27.918 --> 00:34:31.799 she killed everyone. 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.320 Yeah, but they could have made her 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.600 always also like a politician. 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:37.080 She could have been like the prime 00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.079 minister or somebody, you know, it would 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:41.960 have been the same problem. 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.279 She's just somebody powerful. 00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.240 You know what I mean? Is Sebastian gone? 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:47.919 Sebastian, are you here? It's better 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.678 like that. It's better. 00:34:47.918 --> 00:34:51.440 All right, finally the podcast. That's 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:55.480 the Patreon you guys if you want to hear 00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:56.918 us without Sebastian, you need to pay uh 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:58.159 All right, we're going to have fun now. 00:34:56.918 --> 00:35:00.608 We're going to really talk about the 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:02.628 movies now. I'll take off my my mask. 00:35:00.608 --> 00:35:02.628 >> [laughter] 00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:10.200 >> Uh yeah. So if you had to 00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:12.559 keep this movie or destroy it. If you 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.759 had a list if you have only a thousand 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.759 movies 00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:18.160 would you include it in it? 00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.840 Hello Sebastian. What's up, mate? 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:23.039 Yeah. Sorry, I was on the mothership so 00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:24.600 I'm back now. 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.800 All right guys, for the watchers on 00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:29.358 Patreon, 00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:31.120 if you want more of just Hugo and I 00:35:29.358 --> 00:35:33.719 just subscribe. 00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:36.039 Or maybe you can subscribe to help me to 00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.679 buy a better 00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:40.563 better The free version includes 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:42.583 Sebastian at all in all podcast. 00:35:40.563 --> 00:35:42.583 >> [laughter] 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:48.800 >> Uh yeah. So we were saying would you 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:51.039 keep it or delete it? Would you would 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:53.120 you keep that movie if you had a a hard 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:55.559 drive with only a thousand slots for 00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.559 movies? 00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.560 I think I will keep it. It's it's good 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:02.719 movie. 00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:04.358 Even for for for the actors. 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.759 They they they all 00:36:04.358 --> 00:36:09.599 they 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:10.920 the acting are working so well together. 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.279 Um 00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.760 Even when they look at 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.640 at each other when they when they talk 00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:20.080 when they non dance 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:23.079 It's really working. 00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:25.000 Great great great work. 00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:27.079 What about you, Sebastian? 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.679 I think I would keep it because it's a 00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:31.119 it's a fun movie to watch. 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:33.559 Because there is so many things. There 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:37.880 is the acting. There is the 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:40.880 caricatural way of depicting the the 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.119 capitalism. The I mean, there is a lot 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:44.680 of things, you know, you can take 00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:47.199 whatever you want inside. And at the end 00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:48.559 of the it's a fun movie to watch. 00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.159 There was so 00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:52.320 I would keep it. 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:55.279 And there's not that much American week 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:57.880 long. Hollywood don't don't make much 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.320 lot of week long. 00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:01.400 No, they don't. But there are movies 00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:03.720 where it's only one guy. Like remember 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:05.559 Buried with Ryan Reynolds? 00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:08.439 Oh yeah. I Am Legend with Will Smith. 00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:09.480 >> 1 hour with Ryan Reynolds. In a box, 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.159 yeah. 00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:13.079 Yeah. 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:15.279 He's on the phone like what the [ __ ] 00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:17.440 Uh yeah, I guess I would keep it too if 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:20.120 I had a thousand movies. Yes, it would 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:22.960 be probably in there. Toward the end 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:24.710 toward the 900 something but yeah, it 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.039 would be it would be in there. 00:37:24.710 --> 00:37:26.440 >> [snorts] 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:27.679 >> All right. Well, 00:37:26.440 --> 00:37:30.480 uh thank you guys for listening. Don't 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.279 forget to subscribe and like or leave us 00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.480 a comment or anything that could 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:37.560 encourage us to keep going. Uh even 00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:37.800 though you can insult us. I will enjoy 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.519 it. 00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:41.086 >> Sebastian for sure 00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.840 on the Patreon. 00:37:41.085 --> 00:37:43.439 >> [laughter] 00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.320 >> There is a section 00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.119 related for that. 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.800 >> Yeah, yeah. 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:52.119 Uh all right. Thank you guys. See you on 00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.120 the next one. Thank you very much, guys.