Full Transcript for Episode 281: Interview with Todd from Minnesota

00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.080 you know, after four years, I was kind of, well, 73 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:07.800 I didn't. It's that tough time where you get to 74 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:09.319 the end and you're like, oh, should I you know, 75 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:10.919 I've already got four years done? Should I just stay 76 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.759 in for twenty? And then once you get to that point, 77 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.840 I'm like, if I re enlist once, I'm you might 78 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:17.720 as well stay for twenty at that point because that 79 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:20.120 was my thinking because I'm like, every year is gonna 80 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:22.839 be a little harder to get But it was that 81 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:27.839 I didn't want to raise a family in that environment. 82 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.079 I guess if that's you know, kind of makes sense. 83 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:33.800 So but yeah, while I was there, I got to 84 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:35.160 see the world. I got to go to the first 85 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:39.639 golf war got to you know, was something I never 86 00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:43.199 really I don't know. I had friends that really wanted 87 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:44.959 to go over there and they weren't able to go. 88 00:04:45.079 --> 00:04:47.600 And I hear's me. I'm like, I show up in 89 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:49.519 camp as June and they're like, oh you're you know, 90 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:51.839 I'm coming from Okinawa and they're like, oh, yeah, you 91 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:54.319 know you're heading over And I was like, well, all right, 92 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:56.600 I guess there's no reason I can't go, so I'm going. 93 00:04:57.480 --> 00:04:59.360 And uh yeah, that turned out to me. You know, 94 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.240 we got there right as the war started, and then offish, 95 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:05.439 you know, the war where they were kind of bombing 96 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.439 everybody and went through a few I mean, I didn't 97 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:10.959 really see. I was pretty far into back and kind 98 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:13.000 of first in, first out. It was over pretty quick 99 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.399 back then, and I guess through all that, I remember 100 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:22.199 coming home and I don't getting what they had the 101 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:25.439 praise for everybody and that kind of happened. And but 102 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.360 you know, it's a different time back then. I guess 103 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:31.040 then because now I wouldn't want any of my kids 104 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.439 to go out of the military. At this point, it's 105 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.839 the vaccine pushing thing, and you know, you're you're fighting 106 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:40.759 for the ideals that are different, and I don't know, 107 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.079 I guess I thought i'd kind of during that time. 108 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.519 I never thought it'd be like, you know, you know, 109 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.319 you're proud to serve, you kind of do your thing. 110 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:51.240 And but now I'm like, I don't know if I 111 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:56.120 like who I'm fighting for at this point. It's our 112 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:58.360 government is just kind of a it's a it's a 113 00:05:58.399 --> 00:05:59.199 sore spot, you know. 114 00:05:59.639 --> 00:06:02.600 Yeah, it's tough. And I've actually had that conversation and 115 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:04.959 with a men's group a couple of weeks ago. Seven 116 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:06.839 of the eight guys were veterans, and I said to them, 117 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:09.399 I was like, when a young person comes up to 118 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:12.639 you and asks them, do you think I should join? 119 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:18.160 And I don't think you should flat out blanket say no, because, 120 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:20.800 for instance, I told you I was in West Virginia 121 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.600 and we were kind of in one of those places 122 00:06:23.639 --> 00:06:26.120 where you know a lot of people live kind of 123 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.399 a tough life. You know, who am I to tell 124 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:31.040 them no? But I always tell them there's some things 125 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:33.800 that you're never going to. Number One, you will never 126 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:38.399 be the same person once you sit in that chair, 127 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:41.199 they spin you around, you have no hair, and they 128 00:06:41.360 --> 00:06:44.639 break you down and they recreate somebody different. Number Two, 129 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:48.199 the vaccine issue, which you what you just brought up. 130 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:50.199 That's something that will never come out of your body. 131 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:53.480 Number three, which is something that I kind of and 132 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.319 I lived it for a long time, raising a family 133 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.279 in that atmosphere where I'm there, I'm gone, I'm there, 134 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:05.040 I'm going. I remember my daughter was born December twenty one, 135 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:07.920 two thousand and nine, and I left for my last 136 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:10.959 tour of duty February twenty ten, so she was about 137 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.920 two months old. I came back, she's fourteen months and 138 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:15.959 she wanted nothing to do to me. There's so many 139 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.399 things to unpack with everything in the military life. It's 140 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.199 not all bad. Children get to see the world. They 141 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:26.439 saw Hawaii, Colorado, Texas good school systems, bad school systems, 142 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.120 and I think they're more adventurous. But there's also the 143 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.639

negative connotations that come along with that, right. 144 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:35.680 Yeah, Yeah, And I remember seeing a lot of like, 145 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:38.680 you know, back then, I was single, and it's you know, 146 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:41.600 I've always said, like, I would definitely do it again, 147 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.199 if you know, given the chance to relive it and 148 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:46.560 do I learned a lot. I went a lot of 149 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:49.879 places where i'd never I'd never be going there now 150 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:55.040 on my own money, you know, but going on deployments 151 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:56.879 was always kind of fun because you're like, Oh, we're 152 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.360 going to Norway. We're going here for coal weather training, 153 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:01.720 and we're doing all these things. And then you get 154 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:03.399 you're on the bus and you're all excited to go 155 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.360 and you look out the window and there's families and 156 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.639 they're all crying and they're hugging, and I'm like, oh, yeah, 157 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.519 I guess it's gonna be like three months before they 158 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.240 see their dad again, which is and that was one 159 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.040 of the reasons, Like I said, I just didn't want 160 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.519 to raise a family or have it. You know, it's 161 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:21.360 so you just cannot control where you go it. You know, 162 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:24.879 you are their property. And you know you've mentioned before 163 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:27.519 all the times about the vaccines where you line up 164 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:29.800 and they just, you know, your pincushion and they give 165 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:32.480 you all the shots. I know, I had the anthrax shot. 166 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:35.200 Don't know what's in it. Never had a choice of 167 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.000 whether I wanted it or not, just got it and 168 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:41.360 that was it, you know. So yeah, I don't know. 169 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:42.840 I mean, it'd be so tough to be at that, 170 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:44.799 Like I think you've talked about that before. You've been 171 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:47.519 at that like eighteen years in, nineteen years in and 172 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:51.000 then this COVID vaccine comes out and you're against it, 173 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:54.519 and you do you give it all up At that point, 174 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.519 I guess I'm just thankful I didn't have to make 175 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:57.080 that decision. 176 00:08:57.200 --> 00:09:00.000 You know, I am too, And that's why I'm never 177 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:04.240 one to say, oh, you took it. You know, imagine 178 00:09:04.360 --> 00:09:06.799 nineteen years of the ground I put myself in that position, 179 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:10.360 all the tours and separation and all that being from 180 00:09:10.399 --> 00:09:12.559 you know, health insurance and everything. It's the it's the 181 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:16.559 system that we have allowed them to construct that even 182 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:19.399 allows them to put us in that situation, right, shame 183 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.639 on us. You're allowing them to build that system. 184 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:24.159 Yeah, and then you get that point. If you get out, 185 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.360 you're giving up that pension, you know, if check for 186 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.639 the rest of your life. Yeah, it's like, you know, 187 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:29.559 that's who you're working for. 188 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:31.320 So yeah, praise the Lord. I didn't have to make 189 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:33.399 that decision, but I do feel for those people who 190 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.759 were put in that position and then they kick them 191 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:37.799 out and they're like, oh, you can come back. Yeah, 192 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:39.759 there's a war with Iran going on, but sure you 193 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:45.080 can come back, right, Well sure, unbelievable. So you got 194 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:46.639 out in what ninety two, ninety three. 195 00:09:47.240 --> 00:09:50.279 Two, yep, ninety two. And then so from there I 196 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.879 went into I used the gibil I used. I went 197 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:58.320 into a technical college, got a two year electrical degree, 198 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.919 jump through a few jobs going through school, jump through 199 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:06.240 a couple maintenance jobs, and then I went at ninety nine, 200 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:11.679 I got into a fire alarm fire suppression company. And 201 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.360 I've been doing that ever since. Been twenty almost twenty 202 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:16.720 seven years now or twenty but yeah, just about twenty 203 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:22.840 seven years now. So yeah, and then got married, got divorced, 204 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:26.360 and now I'm currently married to my I mean, I'm 205 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:30.320 I'm blessed. I'm married to my best friend. Her name's Anne, 206 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:33.440 and she's she was a flat earther when we met, 207 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:38.360 which I don't remember a whole lot about that journey 208 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:43.000 jumping into I mean, I guess, I guess we'll start 209 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.840 with I'm kind of always been a conspiracy minded guy. 210 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.879 And I know, growing up, me and my brothers like 211 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.679 did not believe one minute about the moon landing. It 212 00:10:53.799 --> 00:10:56.200 was kind of a joke, and it was like, you know, 213 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:59.639 and even now it's like, you know, my cell phone 214

00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:03.840 receptions and is horrible in my kitchen, and yet they 215 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:05.320 can send a guy to the moon and talk to 216 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.960 him like he's like, you know, in the next room, 217 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:12.480 and I'm like, no, it doesn't No. So that was 218 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:14.799 a big thing. So I've always been against that, but 219 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:18.200 you know, of course nine to eleven happens and everyone 220 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.759 jumps on that, and now you find out where maybe 221 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:24.159 that was a false flag, mate, you know, and it's 222 00:11:24.919 --> 00:11:26.559 i know, like you said, makes a lot of people 223 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:28.919 angry about it because you know, people signed up and 224 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:30.519 went to the military for that, people tried to you know, 225 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:33.000 they're going to war for that again. And it's another 226 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:37.600 sore spot with our government, I guess. But yeah, So 227 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:41.240 my I met my wife on through Facebook dating, which 228 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:43.960 was kind of a you know, it was one of 229 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:45.879 those things where you kind of throw everything on the board. 230 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:48.919 I was like, let's just see and I put out there. 231 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:51.039 You know, at the time, I was a big Trump supporter, 232 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:54.960 which you know, early on listening to you when you 233 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:59.039 would talk about like the whole right wing, left wing, 234 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:02.240 same same bird, and I was always like, well maybe 235 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.240 maybe not. I'm you know, but I know they set 236 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:09.919 us up with Trump, and I know they really they 237 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:13.159 put the country in such a despair and like he 238 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.120 was the only hope and and I remember being in 239 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.200 the mindset of I just wanted hope, Like I just 240 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:23.840 like it was so many years of like everything's bad 241 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:25.919 and you know, the government's out to kill you, and 242 00:12:26.679 --> 00:12:29.039 the taxes in the riots, I mean that the riots 243 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:32.799 were a big part here, that Minneapolis, you know, that 244 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:37.559 George Floyd thing that started everything, and I remember just 245 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:40.200 thinking like, this guy's gonna come in and fix it, 246 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:42.360 you know, and I got to have hope that some 247 00:12:42.679 --> 00:12:45.120 it's going to turn around. And of course he gets 248 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:48.200 in and then I followed him right up until the 249 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.600 point where he was like, you know, he he ran 250 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.480 on the whole Epstein list and I'm gonna get that out. 251 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.480 And as soon as he said, like, oh what Epstein list, 252 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:00.320 We're still talking about that, yep, It's like it's like 253 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.759 a just a weight just sunk. And I was like, 254 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:08.000 he's just like all of them, Like, so I threw 255 00:13:08.039 --> 00:13:10.240 away everything that had Trump on it my house. 256 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:10.440 You know. 257 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.679 We went to that rallies, and I mean we went 258 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:16.279 to a rally in Saint Cloud and kind of lived 259 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.759 that whole thing. But once that happened, it's like I 260 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:20.399 dropped it all and I was like, well, I guess 261 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:21.919 George's right. You know, it's like I'm. 262 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:25.519 Yeah, the coincidence job, all right. 263 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:28.440 Yeah right, you know. So now it's like I'll probably 264 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:29.679 never vote again, you know. 265 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.639 Yeah, I agree, I'll vote for local elections. I always 266 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:36.039 say vote for people who you can touch and people 267 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.320 you know that you can stand up to. But that 268 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.840 that was so even in twenty sixteen, in retrospect, you 269 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:47.320 had eight years of Obama and you know, trivializing the police, 270 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:50.960 and I was still invested in politics. And you know, 271 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.799 I'm somebody who met Hillary Clinton in person and could 272 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.960 just feel how vile she was. And you know the 273 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.720 Bush family that they're all friends. There's so many pictures 274 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.759 of them together, and even the Clintons were at Trump's 275 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:08.799 daughter's wedding. It's just all a big sham. But it's theater, right. 276 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:11.480 The country's on the ropes, and here comes this guy 277 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:16.600 down in Escalator with his beautiful wife and make America 278 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.320 great again. And the scriptwriters for the for the acts 279 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.200 on the world stage you got to tip your cap 280 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:26.480 for because they really know how to grab your heartstrings 281 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:29.080 and make you feel and react a certain way. 282 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:35.159 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that was too is like, go ahead, Oh, 283 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.879 I'm just saying he came from a spot where he's like, oh, 284 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.399 he's not a lifelong politician. He's different, and it's like, no, he's. 285 00:14:41.279 -->

00:14:46.320 Not the same people right, the same circles, if you will, 286 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:51.440 first shout out to your wife Ann. Secondly, as a 287 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:55.600 desert storm veteran, when when that story about Naira al 288 00:14:55.679 --> 00:15:00.759 Sabah came out, did that hit the did you react 289 00:15:00.799 --> 00:15:02.559 to it or is that something you didn't even know 290 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:03.519 till later in life? 291 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:06.919 I I, way later, I didn't know anything about a 292 00:15:06.960 --> 00:15:09.039 lot of that stuff. We were when we got there, 293 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:12.120 we were like in a camp that was like way 294 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.960 outside of everything we were. But when I checked into 295 00:15:17.080 --> 00:15:19.720 I came from Okinawa and I checked into Cherry Point, OK. 296 00:15:19.840 --> 00:15:22.600 And when I did, my whole unit was already over there, 297 00:15:23.559 --> 00:15:26.279 and they were like, so what they did is they 298 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:31.000 tagged me onto a combat replacement company. So I went 299 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:32.960 to Camp La June and I was with a bunch 300 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:36.480 of just a random bunch of random moss and we 301 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.360 all went over there, and you know, kind of sad, 302 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:41.840 but it's I get it as part of war or whatever. 303 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:46.960 You know. It's so when we were there, it's if 304 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:50.360 someone with your job ended up getting killed, they would 305 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.080 just go to this company and pull those moss out 306 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:54.399 of it and then you would go to the join 307 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.080 out of the company. So that was my that was 308 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:58.759 where I was. So we would did a lot of 309 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:02.240 working parties. There, a lot of like going around cleaning 310 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.679 up the desert. Yeah no, and then listening to scuttle 311 00:16:05.759 --> 00:16:08.080 arms and you know for the scud missiles, which was 312 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:09.960 kind of like a tornado warning. 313 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:13.600 You know, alert. We used to get the big voice 314 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:16.600 and the sirens and all of that. 315 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:19.320 Yeah. I remember sitting around and like, you know, you 316 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:21.679 playing chess with a couple of guys, and we would 317 00:16:21.679 --> 00:16:24.399 like the scud missiles went off and then did sirens 318 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.240 would go off, and we're like are we really getting bombed? 319 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:29.759 Like that's weird. It's just kind of a weird concept. 320 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:31.600 And then it was like oh okay, and we just 321 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:33.600 keep playing chess, you know, because it's

like, well, if 322 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:35.600 it's hits here, like there's nothing you can do about it. 323 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:38.200 That's right. We spent a lot of in mop foign 324 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:39.919 our chemical gear when yeah. 325 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:42.240 Yeah, sitting in the desert drinking water because you're like 326 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:43.039 you're just sweating. 327 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.919 Oh it was awful man, Yeah, great memories. And then 328 00:16:47.279 --> 00:16:49.799 you had mentioned the moon landings for you, was there 329 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:51.919 a certain point that you may have already mentioned it 330 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.000 that you did you ever believe the moon landing? And 331 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.919 then part B of the question would be does it 332 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:00.720 surprise you now that you're on this side you realize 333 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.840 the balls a lie? Does it surprise you that people 334 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.680 can very easily dispute the fact that we never went 335 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:10.039 to the moon but they can't see the whole picture? 336 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:13.000 Yes? Yeah, you know, it's funny because like when you 337 00:17:13.039 --> 00:17:16.000 see it, I don't all the fraud videos of the 338 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:20.480 the graphics, and you know, they show that the satellites 339 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:22.079 out there and there's al suden you see a mouse 340 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.240 run across it, you know, and you're like, oh, it's 341 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.359 weird that the mouse is in space, and you know, 342 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:29.599 and all the stuff they pulled out of the lander, 343 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.000 it's like, where'd that car come from? That didn't just 344 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.279 fit in there? Like that's okay? And then that you know, 345 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:37.720 obviously once it takes off, the camera follows it up 346 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.680 and you're like, did they leave a guy behind? Where's 347 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:42.920 all this come from? So all of that just seems 348 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.960 so fake, and it was like and knowing I guess now, 349 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:50.440 even that last Artemis launch, I had one of my 350 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:54.519 buddies from the Marine Corps. Actually I completely dig space 351 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:56.839 that I don't follow it so I don't care. But 352 00:17:56.920 --> 00:18:00.799 I got this message and he's like, are you the launch? 353 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:05.119 And I'm like, what, you still believe this? So then 354 00:18:05.119 --> 00:18:07.759 of course I'm like I'm messaging him saying like it's 355 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.680 all fake. Man, it's it. First of all, today's April 356 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:15.119 Fool's Day, like take a clue. And he's like he's 357 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:17.359 debating me on these text messages, and I was like, 358 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:21.200 you can't believe that we're actually doing this right, and 359 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:25.039 but you know, it's it's weird when you wake up 360 00:18:25.079 --> 00:18:26.880 and you see like all these lives and you know, 361 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.920 like when you when you see the world for what 362 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:34.319 it is and the local sun and the sun rays 363 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.160 coming down at angles and when you look up and 364 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.119 you're like, oh, that thing's ninety three million miles away. Huh, 365 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:42.640 that's weird that the sun rays Like I can literally 366 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:45.960 draw lines going up and I can see the sun 367 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:51.119 is light right there, like I it's and it's like, well, 368 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:53.680 how did I believe this before? Like it and then 369 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:55.559 it's you know, well you talk to it, like a 370 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:58.440 lot of people. You talk to him, and what's the matter. 371 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:00.480 I still got to go to work, you know, and 372 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.640 I think we're all there, and you know, nobody's like 373 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:06.559 wants to be a flat earther at this. You know, 374 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:08.799 you don't like, go, oh good, everyone I talked to 375 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:10.640 is gonna make fun of me. Awesome, I'm gonna sign 376 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:13.799 up for this. But on the other side of it, 377 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:18.240 I mean, now everyone at work, I mean, I guess 378 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:21.720 the guy who woke me up, he was a client. 379 00:19:21.920 --> 00:19:24.759 Actually he was one of our guys who he worked 380 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:27.880 at a hospital out of state, and that when we'd 381 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:31.599 go down there, he was talking to one of our 382 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:34.839 other technicians and he was saying, like, oh, what if 383 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:37.960 I told you the biggest lie in history? Like everyone 384 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:41.160 believes it. Everyone that he comes back and this guy's 385 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:43.720 telling me about it, and I was going, well, what's 386 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:47.000 the biggest lie? And he's like, the world is a 387 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:51.440 flat and I went, really, that's what he believes. And 388 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.400 so the next time I go down there. We're really 389 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:55.400 good friends. So I'm chatting with him and he starts 390 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:57.400 telling me the lie, and you know, what if I 391 00:19:57.440 --> 00:19:59.359 told you there was a lie so big, and I'm like, 392 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.519 what is it? And he's like, the world's flat, and 393 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:06.039

I said, well, do I a proof of that? And 394 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:09.799 he started like sending me videos and I'm like okay. 395 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:12.680 And at the time, I wasn't even like upset. I 396 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:14.559 just kind of thought, well, all right, if this is 397 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:16.400 what he believes, there must be a reason for it. 398 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.480 I watched his videos a little bit, didn't really understand. 399 00:20:19.519 --> 00:20:22.759 It was like, you know, the the Earth spinning around 400 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:25.279 the Sun and everything's rocketing through space and this it's 401 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:30.400 all kind of spinning, And I went, Okay, I guess 402 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.519 that's what it's supposed to do, right, And at the time, 403 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.119 I was kind of like, well, it doesn't really matter 404 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:38.799 to me because if I die and go to heaven 405 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:42.160 and I'm walking around and I look at this table 406 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.039 and the world's flat, I'm gonna be like, oh, who knew? 407 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.200 You know? Okay, I guess that's I guess I was fooled. 408 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:50.799 And then the more like because of this guy, the 409 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:53.839 more I looked into it, I was like and then 410 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.480 of course I found your podcast back then and went 411 00:20:56.680 --> 00:20:58.839 listened to all the episodes, and I was like, oh, man, 412 00:21:00.480 --> 00:21:03.240 it's definitely flat. Like it there's no way. And of 413 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:05.480 course now I'm in the same arguments with my brother, 414 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:08.200 and you know, my family thinks it's kind of funny, 415 00:21:08.240 --> 00:21:10.160 and it's you know, I got the flat I got 416 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:12.039 the flat Earth map on my wall, you know. And 417 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:14.240 it's like I had a globe at the time in 418 00:21:14.279 --> 00:21:16.359 the house and I threw it away and my mom 419 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:18.880 kind of said something about do you throw away your 420 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:21.920 globe because the world's flat? And I go, you're onto something. 421 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:23.720 I go, yeah, I did. I said, I can't have 422 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:26.880 that stuff in the house. So but then I told, 423 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:28.839 you know, it's like anyone else. I tell him, like, well, 424 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.000 look at flight Look at all the flight plans. Look 425 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:34.720 at all the emergency landings. Why do they shoot five 426 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:36.640 hundred miles this way when they got to land the 427 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:40.559 plane when there's an emergency or is it like this, 428 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:42.960 you know, and you draw straight line and it's like, 429 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:47.799 there's our closest spot. So that was that's a lot 430 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:49.519 of the big wake ups, I guess. 431 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:53.079 I mean, yeah, I think the emergency landings was was 432 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:56.200 one of the more brilliant things that he realized he 433 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:58.279 was able to take those flights and put them against 434 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:02.519 a globe versus a a you know, geocentric earth, and 435 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:04.720 say if that was the case, why did they land 436 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:07.799 here or not here? That that's such a powerful bullet. 437 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:11.839 And let me ask you this. With family and friends 438 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.759 who maybe are in christ to go to church, you know, 439 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:19.039 you the Bible, even if you ask any ai say, 440 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.839 you know strictly by going with the Bible? Is the 441 00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:24.880 Bible a geocentric or heliocentric book? It'll tell you straight 442 00:22:24.960 --> 00:22:28.680 up it's not even close. It's a it's a geocentric book. 443 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.640 Have you ever had the optation to present it in 444 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:34.079 that way? 445 00:22:35.720 --> 00:22:38.359 Well, we had a Bible study with me, my brother 446 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.079 who's new to faith and a friend of ours, and 447 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:44.400 it turns out like me and my wife were both 448 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.000 flat earthers and this other guy and his wife are 449 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:50.640 flat earthers. But my brother is like, he's just adamant, 450 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:52.759 like he's got a lot of science behind him. He's like, 451 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:55.000 you know, when does does all the physics and all 452 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.480 this stuff, and he's like it's proven. You know, there's 453 00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:00.799 me of course, he's bringing up all the laws and stuff, 454 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.480 and I'm like it's not though, And so I think 455 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:05.359 it's just a matter of time and he'll come aboard. 456 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:07.960 It's just, you know, it's like anything else until you 457 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.680 see it, you know, I think we were all there, 458 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:13.480 so I give it a lot of grace where I'm like, 459 00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.559 if if someone would have told me about it ten 460 00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:19.519 years ago, I probably would have laughed. And just like 461 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:21.119 even when I heard about this guy, I kind of 462 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.039 laughed at him. And it wasn't until I started looking 463 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:25.680 into it and we all do the thing about trying 464 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:29.480 to disprove it, and it's suddenly we're all like, I 465 00:23:29.519 -->

00:23:31.920 guess it is flat. I mean, and I guess Unlike 466 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:34.079 I mean, I get cause you said you had those 467 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.440 weeks of on you know, we couldn't sleep. But for me, 468 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:39.720 I guess when it when it hit, I just kind 469 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:41.839 of went, well, I guess we've been lyed to it. 470 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.799 And and again it's the whole if the government lies 471 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:50.759 about everything else, this is just one more thing that like, Okay, 472 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:52.640 I guess I just accepted, like, well, if they're lying 473 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.400 about everything else, why would they tell the truth about this. 474 00:23:55.720 --> 00:24:03.000 And it goes back to nine to eleven with the footage, 475 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:04.839 you know, like when they talked about the plane hitting 476 00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:07.319 the Pentagon and they you know, you see the hole 477 00:24:07.319 --> 00:24:09.319 and it's a circle, and I'm like, as a missile, 478 00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:11.960 like they somebody hit it, but it was a missile, 479 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:14.680 it's not there's no plane parts anywhere like we can 480 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:17.839 And I was like, they can disprove this so easy. 481 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:19.880 All they got to do is show a camera. Just 482 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.759 they got eight hundred cameras around the Pentagon. One of 483 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:24.839 those cameras probably captured this. All they got to do 484 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.119 is show the footage, and they never do. They never, 485 00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:30.480 like there's never any footage, just like flat Earth. Like 486 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.400 all they got to do is put take one of 487 00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.519 their cell phones that they got, aim it out the 488 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:37.000 window as they're taking off, and have that whole footage 489 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:39.640 of the world, and then put it out there and 490 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:41.759 stream it twenty four hours a day so you can 491 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:44.640 see the world's spin, you can see the weather patterns, 492 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.000 and they don't. And I'm like, you would think that 493 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.480 instead of doing all these like hair sticking up videos 494 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:54.920 where you know, they always have the one token woman 495 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:59.039 with their hair straight up in the air, and you know, 496 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:00.880 it's funny thing with that as you see him, like 497 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.319 on launch day, her hair's all braided back and it's 498 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:05.880 all tight en at Ponytail. She goes up in the 499 00:25:05.880 --> 00:25:08.960 air and immediately her hair is sticking straight up, and 500 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:10.960

then when she comes back it's back and braids. You know, 501 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.759 It's like, well, okay, so only in space do we 502 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.440 have to do this straight up hair. It's a gimmick 503 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:21.200 and it's you know, it's a whole. But all those 504 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.720 guys in there doing flips and circles and throwing little 505 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.359 things to each other, it's all CGI. But all they 506 00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:27.680 had to do is take a camera and put it 507 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.720 out the window, and they don't. They can't, you know. 508 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.839 Yep, just like the conversation I had on Sunday the 509 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.519 gentleman who worked at SpaceX, He's like the same thing. 510 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.519 The rocket goes up and then it switches to CGI. 511 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:42.960 All they would have to do is to keep a one. 512 00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.359 And even now, I would say I would be, honestly, 513 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:49.960 I'd be a little leery just because of the the 514 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:53.640 AI and everything that they have. But still, the fact 515 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:58.079 that in twenty twenty six that they still use really 516 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:02.000 bad CGI is a part of the disclosure they have 517 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:05.640 to disclose to those who have the eyes to see 518 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:09.359 that they're pulling the wool over people's eyes. And only 519 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.680 you know, before twenty twenty, there was probably less than 520 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:15.319 five percent of the people who are truly awake. But 521 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:17.960 because of COVID, I think we're probably one out of 522 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:21.359 every ten people are fully awake, and there's another ten 523 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.240 or twenty percent who are on the cusp, but they 524 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:27.279 I don't know if it's I just wish I knew 525 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:30.680 what was that psychological barrier that is keeping people from 526 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.160 taking the next step. In the back of their mind, 527 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.720 they know that they're being lied to on levels just 528 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:40.680 no one could comprehend, but they're unwilling to take that step. 529 00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:42.240 And I'm going to be interviewing, by the way, in 530 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.480 the next couple of weeks, a guy who said to me, 531 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:49.799 you know, I'm one of the few people who maybe 532 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:51.920 I do wish I could cough back up that red 533 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:54.559 pill because it has caused him so much stress. And 534 00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:56.559 I get that, and I'm looking forward to hear it 535 00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.000 because I'm sure he's not the only

one who thinks that. 536 00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.599 But man, what is that one psychological barrier that's keeping 537 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.319 people from seeking the truth? Because I want the truth, 538 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:07.160 no matter how brutal it is. 539 00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.039 Yeah, and that's one of the once you know, I 540 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:11.799 guess once you do take that red pill and you 541 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.480 wake up, you can't go back to sleep, and it's 542 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:20.039 it's you know, it's the days of thinking. My wife 543 00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:21.839 and I were just talking about this the other day 544 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.319 about like that, the days where you believe the government 545 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:28.160 was like had your back and they were for you, 546 00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.839 and they were like, oh no, like I believe everything 547 00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.000 I'm told and it's all for you know, we're the 548 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.440 good guys in every war, and you know, we're always 549 00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:40.480 doing the hero thing. And then you realize, like, our 550 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:43.079 government does more things to us than they do to 551 00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:48.359 any other country, and we are the They're dropping chemicals 552 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:50.559 on us, they're hitting us with ticks, they're hitting us 553 00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:54.599 from the air. The food everything we eat is like poisoned. 554 00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:57.759 And you just realize, like if they cared about and 555 00:27:57.799 --> 00:27:59.920 that wasn't if they cared about us, they wouldn't do this. 556 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:04.279 And you brought up the COVID thing about even during COVID, 557 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.359 I know a lot of this stuff was uh, you know, 558 00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:08.559 they shut all the gyms down, they shut all the 559 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.400 churches down. But you could go to the bar, and 560 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.880 you could go to all the big chain stores and 561 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.759 you could you know, the bars were a big thing. 562 00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:19.640 Like you could get you could go get liquor whenever 563 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.279 you wanted to, but you couldn't go to church. You 564 00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.519 couldn't go you couldn't have your family events, and you 565 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.599 couldn't work out. You couldn't have you know, And back then, 566 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.440 I remember thinking like, if they really cared about our health, 567 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.160 wouldn't gym memberships be free? Wouldn't wouldn't they just like 568 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.359 encourage that, or you know, give you a break on 569 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.039 your taxes. You know, hey, we want everyone healthy. We 570 00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.559 want to encourage if you go to the gym five 571 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.359 days a week, we're gonna, you know, cut your taxes 572 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.400 in half because we want a healthy, you know, healthy country. 573 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:53.920 No way, they never, they don't care. 574 00:28:54.240 --> 00:29:00.480 They it's really crazy because and again I'm not I 575 00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:02.480 just see some things and it just makes me think. 576 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:03.920 So there was a gentleman in front of me at 577 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:05.759 the dollar store. We got a new dollar store in 578 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:07.799 the neighborhood. It's it's just so big. We don't have 579 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.279 to drive into town every time we need something. But 580 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:13.559 you know, I see that, and again it's his business. 581 00:29:13.720 --> 00:29:16.119 But it just when you see somebody take an EBT 582 00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:19.720 card and ring up four cases of monster. That's like 583 00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:24.240 not really once again what it was built for. And 584 00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:27.160 all these systems that always start under the guise of 585 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:31.359 good and resourceful always end up being abused. 586 00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:34.839 Like that, right right, Yeah, that was I think that 587 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:36.559 was when I woke up to to a lot of 588 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.039 that stuff. I remember being in Target, which is you know, 589 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.440 I guess for I'm pretty sure they're just maybe northern 590 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:45.039 I don't know, I guess they're all over there all. 591 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:47.240 I think they're headquartered in your neck of the woods. 592 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.839 Right, yeah, they're up here. So so I remember being 593 00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.319 in Target doing my grocery shopping, and you know, as 594 00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.039 you walk around, you kind of you're smiling, and you 595 00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:58.480 kind of give people the nod, and it's a lot 596 00:29:58.480 --> 00:30:02.240 of like saying hello without saying that, without talking to somebody. 597 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.920 And I remember walking by a lady and I kind 598 00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:07.839 of did the head nod, like Hi, how you doing, 599 00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.759 And I'm smiling, and she gave me a look through 600 00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:13.400 her you know, all I can see is her eyes 601 00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.119 with the you know that she's got the full mask on, 602 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:18.160 and she gives me a look like I am the 603 00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:20.960 enemy or something like she was just hateful. And I 604 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.000 was like, wow, that's bitter, and I remember like thinking, like, 605 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.119 I wonder if it's a because I'm not wearing a mask, 606

00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.079 because I never I would always walk into Target with 607 00:30:29.119 --> 00:30:32.400 a mask in my back pocket. So whenever I walked in, 608 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:34.599 they'd be like, oh, sir, you need a mask on, 609 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:36.240 and I'd pull it out of my back pocket and 610 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.039 show them and I'm like, I got one, and then 611 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:40.000 I'd put it right back in my back pocket. So 612 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.279 I never wore it when I went in, and never 613 00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.400 really wore masks in general, but when I walked in 614 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:50.319 that place, I would walk around and I started thinking like, well, 615 00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:52.799 surely there's other people in here, and I'm looking around 616 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:57.279 and I was the only one not wearing a mask, 617 00:30:57.640 --> 00:30:59.279 and I thought like And that was kind of a 618 00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:01.200 wake up moment for me, because I remember thinking like, 619 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.880 am I crazy? Like am I the like what is 620 00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:09.359 wrong with me? Where I'm so defiant, where I will 621 00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:13.920 not do this? How come everyone else is like what's 622 00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:16.519 wrong with me? And I guess it was kind of 623 00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.440 like a maybe I'm mental, Maybe there's a you know, 624 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.319 maybe I got to check myself in somewhere. And after 625 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.039 that I just started waking up to everything else. And 626 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.200 of course then you find like minded people. But I 627 00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:31.200 remember losing three quarters of my friends on Facebook, Like 628 00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.160 I mean, I've had like four hundred some people. I remember, 629 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:35.319 I'm down to like a hundred. 630 00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:35.519 You know. 631 00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.359 It's like wait a minute, like all these people just 632 00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.720 arguing about things, and I'm like, you really believe this 633 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:44.319 little face diaper you're wearing is going to save you 634 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:47.240 from the greatest plague on the planet, Like, come on now, 635 00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:47.720 wake up. 636 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.400 Yeah. You know, I think we all have those doubts 637 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.799 every now and then, and that is just the prints 638 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.240 of the power of the air, putting that little bit 639 00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.119 of doubt in your mind. And you know, Satan just 640 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.680 wants that. He loves. He thrives when people start doubting 641 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.319 themselves and struggling with their beliefs. You know, he thrives 642 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:11.039

on that. And I've gone through times just in the 643 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.880 last couple of months. You know, I'll see something and 644 00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.000 I'll say, boy, is it really And then you know, 645 00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.799 you go into a room, you close the door, and 646 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:24.400 you pray, and you know you get that behind you. 647 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.680 But you know, he doesn't have the power to stab 648 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.119 you in the back. He doesn't have the power to 649 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.160 put a beer in your hand. But boy can he 650 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.039 He can deceive you and and try to defeat you 651 00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:36.000 via your morale. 652 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:40.039 Right. Yeah, the dividing of people, you know, if you 653 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.640 see it, because just because I'm not wearing a mask 654 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.400 or because I didn't get a vaccine, suddenly like nobody 655 00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.200 like you can't come over to my house and you 656 00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:52.119 can't like what okay, So now we're divided because this 657 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.079 like okay, Well, but again it was a good thing too, 658 00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:59.240 because you find out really who who's on your side? 659 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.680 I mean, who's like, who's who your friends are, and 660 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:04.799 who's like, who are the people I can trust? I guess. 661 00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:07.799 I mean, if things go really bad, I know I 662 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.839 have a tight circle of people that these are the 663 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.559 these are my people, you know. And I had one 664 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.200 at a home depot. I had a lady and her mom. 665 00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:20.079 The mom was about my age and that you know 666 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.119 obviously her daughter was probably in their early twenties. And 667 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.079 they walked by me and they were not wearing a mask, 668 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.680 and I remember looking at them both and just smiling like, look, 669 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.079 there they go, and we we know, we kind of 670 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.799 walked across each other's paths and they went up one 671 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.519 row and I went up a different row and then 672 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.000 I'm like, I got to go talk to them. So 673 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.519 I remember circling back and trying to find them, and 674 00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:42.839 then I was like, as soon as I walked up, 675 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.559 I'm like, hey, I gotta say, man, it it is 676 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.759 really great to see someone else not wearing a mask. 677 00:33:48.079 --> 00:33:50.559 And the daughter looked at me, and she looked at 678 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.160 her mom and she's smiling and she goes, you

know, 679 00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:55.960 as soon as we passed you, I looked at my 680 00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.960 mom and I said, there's one of us, you know, 681 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.960 And it's like you be one of us. Like there 682 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.960 is a defiance in you know, in a small portion, 683 00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:06.880 and it, you know, hopefully, just like you said, more 684 00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:07.799 people wake up to that. 685 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.039 Yeah, brother, And something you said really hit home is 686 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.559 about you. You really find out who your friends were, 687 00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:20.000 because dude, I had guys who want one guy. I 688 00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:22.679 spent three full tours in Iraq with we rode in 689 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.440 the same m RAP downtown bag Dad and Ezra and 690 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:31.119 everywhere else off MSR Tampa, man, and you know, when 691 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.719 we got to COVID and everything else, and I started 692 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.400 seeing the light, he didn't want to see it. He 693 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:39.719 didn't want anything to do with me anymore. And you know. 694 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:41.960 My wife said, that's really when you find out who 695 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.719 your friends are, because if they won't, if a person 696 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.639 doesn't stick by you just because of your convictions, they 697 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.280 were never your friend to begin with. 698 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.480 Right, Yeah, And that goes back to my buddy. I'll 699 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.400 give him a shout out ron and he's in Sioux Falls. 700 00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.440 But I remember like as soon as he said like 701 00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.280 the flatter thing, and I remember thinking, well, I guess 702 00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:02.800 I'm not on board at this, but I'm you know, 703 00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:05.280 I know he's a smart guy. I know he's a 704 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.119 good guy. Like I know he's a good guy, so 705 00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.079 I know he's not just he's not doing this just 706 00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.920 because he, you know, has a crazy idea in his 707 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:17.559 head like there's something here. So yeah, he's he's one 708 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:19.320 of my people. But I'm not going to give him 709 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.079 a hard time because he's things differently about something than 710 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:22.400 I do. 711 00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:22.679 You know. 712 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:27.000 Yeah, it's and even within the church, there's people who 713 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.679 perceive revelation different pre trib post tribe and everything else. 714 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:32.679 And I even person, that's something I've got to do. 715 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.039 I have to have more grace because sometimes I get 716 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.440 so wrapped up in my convictions I end up being 717 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:38.519 that guy as well. 718 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:40.760 Yeah, I got a good friend. We went out to 719 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.400 dinner with me and my wife and him, and he's, uh, 720 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.440 we had the pre trib post trip, you know, because 721 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.519 he's really concerned about where where are you at on this? 722 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:51.280 And I was like, for me, I'm like, it doesn't 723 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.800 matter really. I'm like, I'm not a big I'm not 724 00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:55.760 in any camp. And I go God can do whatever 725 00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:58.679 he wants. At this point, I'm like and I And 726 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:00.440 then you know, he's thinking, it's like, you know, kind 727 00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.159 of a well are you sure you're not like pre trip? 728 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.880 And I'm like, well, if all the disciples suffered horrible deaths, 729 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.159 do you think you're gonna get out of here scott 730 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.440 free just because you believe? And I'm like, I don't. 731 00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.079 I guess I'm not going to put any care if 732 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:15.519 I got to write it out to the end and 733 00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.719 suffer and you know, hopefully I'll have the conviction or 734 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.079 I can stand my ground and be you know and 735 00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.840 not waiver. But if they had to go through it, 736 00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:26.840 I don't see any reason why we wouldn't have to. 737 00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.519 Yeah, And I was sorry, go ahead. I did thought 738 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:30.880 go ahead? 739 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:32.760 Oh no, that was kind of the end of the point. 740 00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:35.639 I had a list. I wish I could find it 741 00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:37.599 because I went through. That's something I've been working on 742 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:41.159 in class and by myself individually, kind of all the 743 00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.239 quotes where Jesus talks about you know, listen, if you 744 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.280 follow me, if they persecuted me, they're sure going to 745 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:50.920 persecute you. And I had a great chart with all 746 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:55.679 the basically the events in the order of how I 747 00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.039 perceived him in the Bible. But I've always been a 748 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:00.519 listen if you're you know, my old first hard and 749 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.079 used to say, you know, as long as you're prepared, 750 00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:05.960 it doesn't matter what happens. I forget what the phrase was, 751 00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.679 but it was basically, if you're prepared, whatever happens, if 752 00:37:09.719 -->

00:37:14.039 you're in Christ, listen, this journey's temporary. So if we 753 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.119 are here for the great tribulation, and if we are here, 754 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.400 when you either take the mark or you're out of 755 00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.480 the system, you have to be prepared. And there's a 756 00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.039 lot of people who have said their entire life that 757 00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:28.320 would never take the mark. They've never todd they've never 758 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.760 really suffered anything, they've never had discomfort in their life. 759 00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.760 And you look around to people who have grown up 760 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.199 in air conditioning and lived a good life and now 761 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:43.760 they're facing the rest of their life in squalor being 762 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:47.480 cast out of society. I think the percentage of people 763 00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.280 is going to be so small, brother, And I don't 764 00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.599 mean to sound like, you know, mister downer, no, but 765 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.880 I got a good point there. Yeah, Honestly, there's a. 766 00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.840 Lot of stuff because even with like the COVID thing, 767 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.440 where it's like I knew I wasn't going to take it, 768 00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.760 and I remember my kids bringing that point to the 769 00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.280 table and saying like, well, what if you get COVID 770 00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.360 And I'm like, well, then I get COVID. Then I 771 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:10.119 you know, like, well what if you got to go 772 00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:11.880 to the hospital And I'm like that's not gonna happen 773 00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.239 because I'll either I'm either going to get COVID, which 774 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:18.199 I did, but I'm like I'm going to be sick 775 00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:20.079 at home and I'm going to die in my better 776 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.840 I'm gonna get better. It's I'm like, this is God's plan. 777 00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:27.039 This isn't my play. If I win either way. Is 778 00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.159 what you don't understand, Like, if the Lord takes me 779 00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.480 through COVID, then I guess I'm going to meet him, 780 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.079 and that's where I'm going to be. But if he doesn't, 781 00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:37.440 then I get to stay here, like it's a win win. 782 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:41.039 So that was my kind of thinking. Of course, they're like, 783 00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:42.400 you know, when I got COVID, They're like, you go 784 00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.079 in hospital, You go in hospital. I'm like, no, no, 785 00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.280 I'm not. I can breathe fine, it's like it's a 786 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:50.039 bad cold for me. I mean, it wasn't like I 787 00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.320 don't

know, I can think. Everyone was different, and I 788 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.239 think everyone, you know, they got to they go through 789 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.159 a different journey with it. Like I said, I know 790 00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.159 even with my job. They were well, you know, oh, 791 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.119 we're gonna need you to take the job, and uh, 792 00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.199 you're gonna you know, we work in hospitals, so you 793 00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.199 got to take it. And I was like, no, that 794 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.039 that's not an option. This isn't like, this isn't China. 795 00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:11.559 You don't just get to tell me to do something. 796 00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.199 I'm doing it like there's other jobs out there. And 797 00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.559 then it was like, well, we'll give you a raise. No, 798 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:20.159 well you don't want to raise, and I'm like, not 799 00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.159 for a I'm not putting something in my body that 800 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:25.039 can't come out, Like you don't understand, Like I don't, 801 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.639 so that was a big kind of a big stand 802 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.760 for me on that where but again, it you know, 803 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.719 it was at that time, it was just me. I 804 00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:34.840 didn't have a family. You know. It's like, but again 805 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.679 there's you know, for me, I always looked at it like, 806 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:39.320 there's always a job. You know, I'm willing to work 807 00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:41.320 pretty much any job. So it's like whatever, if I 808 00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:43.199 gotta will work somewhere else, I'll work somewhere else. 809 00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:48.800 Yeah, And kudos to you because a lot of people, 810 00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:50.519 again we were just talking about the guys in the 811 00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:52.159 military at eighteen nineteen years. 812 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.440 And well, thankfully I never had to make that decision. 813 00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:57.239 I mean, it's like, that's a tough one there. 814 00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:58.639 Yeah, it truly is. 815 00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:00.639 And I don't know what you do if you got 816 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:02.519 little kids at home and you know, you're the sole 817 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:06.119 provider that I guess I'm glad I didn't have I 818 00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:07.320 wasn't in that camp. You know. 819 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.119 Yeah. It's just I tell people you really need to 820 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.519 be in the Bible. Because there were people who were saying, oh, 821 00:40:13.559 --> 00:40:15.480 this is the mark of the Beast. I was like, 822 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.599 and there's still people the day who say it is. 823 00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.559 I'm like, if if you got the mark of the 824 00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:25.880 beast and you're out swiping your credit card somewhere. There's 825 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.719 a problem with that and nothing, there's no right hand forum, 826 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:32.000 and they start to make these analogical excuses. It wasn't 827 00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:34.480 but it was. I will say this. It was conditioning 828 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.400 and they wanted to see. It was a test. So 829 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.719 when they do bring it, they know they're smart. They'll 830 00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:40.880 do it. 831 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:42.920 A percentage of people that are going to do it, 832 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.679 of course, yeah, I think even now, I know you've 833 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:48.559 mentioned that before, where if they rolled it out again, 834 00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.639 I think we'd be looking at almost the same numbers. 835 00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.559 There might be a little bit more defiance, but there's 836 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.239 still a lot of people that are just like they're 837 00:40:57.280 --> 00:41:01.000 so dependent on the government and general you know, where 838 00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:01.960 they're just going to do it. 839 00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:04.199 Yeah, because I mean, look, they're not going to come 840 00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:07.840 out and said Trump's not going to say, ladies and gentlemen, this, yeah, 841 00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:13.960 the beast, right, there's going to be a great pain 842 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.880 amongst the world, whether it's a war or they propagate, 843 00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:20.559 and it'll be a lot of fakery whatever it is, 844 00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.840 and the answer will be they'll make things really tough 845 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:27.840 for a while. Todd. This is just my hypothesis. And 846 00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.760 then they're going to extend that branch out. You're going 847 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:32.920 to get a universal be and that's you know that 848 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.559 Trump accounts that they just announced the other day. I 849 00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.559 think that's the beginning that the seed planning for universal 850 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.800 basic incomes. First just for children, they're going to it's 851 00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.199 been doing so great, we're going to expand it, and 852 00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:48.360 then everybody's going to have this federal account and then 853 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.000 it's going to turn into your universal basic income. I 854 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:51.840 truly believe that. 855 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.840 Yeah, yeah, it's all coming. It's you know, it's going 856 00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.400 to get worse for it gets better, you know, and 857 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.519 again it probably won't get better till we get on 858 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.199 the other side of all this. You know. It's like 859 00:42:02.239 -->

00:42:05.159 when I mean, the only one that's going to fix 860 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:07.119 things at this point is Jesus coming back. 861 00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:07.639 That's it. 862 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:08.840 It's like, well, you know. 863 00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:10.559 And until then, we have to endure and we have 864 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.400 to hold the line, and we have to follow his rule, 865 00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:17.719 not the United States of America's right. And again I'm thankful, 866 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:19.960 I'm so thankful we grew up in this country. But 867 00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.199 there's also has to be a layer of honesty. We 868 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:25.360 have to acknowledge that if we put ourselves in other 869 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:27.920 people's shoe, whether it's the people of Iraq or Iran 870 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.599 or all these other countries who have listened. They've never 871 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.960 threatened us before, but people somehow justify the The Iran is 872 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:39.800 two weeks away from nuclear missile. I think it's been 873 00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.079 And again, I am a firm believer. We have the 874 00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:48.599 right to defend ourselves, but we just find ways to justify. 875 00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:51.159 And I've been in church is where I've heard pastors say, 876 00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:55.320 we need to wipe out the Palestinians. You know, let's 877 00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:57.639 pray for the Americans who are dropping the bombs, and 878 00:42:57.719 --> 00:42:59.840 let's pray that it only hits the good guys. Like, 879 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:03.199 that's not how it works, bro, That's not what Paul taught. 880 00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:07.239 It's just very frustrating to see kind of the entire 881 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.559 Like I always tell people, God created everything. God created 882 00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.840 the earth, Man created borders, and that's not to say 883 00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:18.119 we should have communities and things of that nature, but 884 00:43:18.199 --> 00:43:21.039 at the same time that there's no way, shape or 885 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.960 form that you can justify as a Christian. A lot 886 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.679 of the things this country has done from a military standpoint, right, yeah, yeah. 887 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:32.760 And to the new listener who's tuning in for the 888 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.159 first time, I've never voted for a Democrat. I'm not 889 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:39.440 some quote unquote flaming liberal. I'm just somebody who got 890 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:42.280 older and wiser. And that's not a pat on the back. 891 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.280 It's just the older you get, you just are able 892 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:47.719 to see things from a different perspective, right, Tod. 893 00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.079 Yeah, you mentioned it. They're all w it's all WWE wrestling. 894 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.000 It's all like the good guys this week are the 895 00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.360 bad guys next week? And they're all having drinks together 896 00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:56.159 at the end of the day. 897 00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:57.760 They really are there. Really What do you think of 898 00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.800 the Trump shooting from a year ago? Over the ear. 899 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:05.159 Once I saw some of the footage, like it was, 900 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:08.480 you know's he's doing that. Uh, he's got the perfect 901 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.920 pose under the flag with his fist up, and I'm like, 902 00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:12.920 you know, they're moving. You see him moving that the 903 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:15.519 paparazzi right in front of him, so you can get 904 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.039 in there, moving the flag ag in just to get 905 00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.519 the right angle. And it's like, oh yeah, because I 906 00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.840 remember at the time, I again, I was a Trump' sporter. 907 00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.159 Then I remember having that shirt, you know, and having 908 00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.639 them you know, and fall into that thing hook line 909 00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:30.960 and sinker, and it was like, oh, they got me again, 910 00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.159 they got me, you know. But if you now it's like, 911 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.519 of course, of course, you know, you got three assassination 912 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:40.280 attempts on him, and uh, he's just dodging bullets like 913 00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:41.639 the matrix. You know, he's uh. 914 00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.519 He said that again today, you know. Oh he said, 915 00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:48.360 I'm number one on the hit list of Iran. 916 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:53.760 Oh I'm sure. Yeah, you think, well you go and 917 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:55.280 start a war with him, and I'm sure you know, 918 00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:58.280 And again that whole thing that I think a lot 919 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.400 of people have just checked out of that because I 920 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.480 don't see, you know, every day I see something new 921 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:06.519 about oh, I RAN's bombing Lebanon or no, that they're 922 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:10.320 bombing Leven just they're dropping bombs on Israel and no, no, 923 00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:12.559 at Israel's bombing them and we're winning this war and 924 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:14.559 they're winning this war. And it's like it's it's so 925 00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.679 back and forth and then you're like it's all like 926 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:21.599 just fake. It's like, I don't so at this. I 927 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:23.599 don't know. That's one of those things where I'm just 928 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:25.239 like I've checked out of it. I'm like, I don't 929 00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:28.360 doesn't affect my day to day

life, and I'm kind 930 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:28.920 of done with that. 931 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.360 Yeah, I used to be that guy, wake up and 932 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:33.760 you know it was a cup of coffee and Fox News. 933 00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there was a time for that 934 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.440 for I think everybody, you know, we're all like kind 935 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:42.239 of believe in everything we see on the TV. And 936 00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.599 you know, it's and now it's like the TV doesn't 937 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:45.280 come on anymore. 938 00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:47.800 Yeah, And I'm like, you know, if nobody had TV 939 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:51.159 or radio or or any of that nonsense, people would 940 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:55.039 be it would be a completely different world. Yeah, yeah, 941 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:57.800 you wouldn't see the division that we have today. 942 00:45:57.960 --> 00:45:59.920 And it's yeah, if it wasn't like NOLF it was 943 00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.000 for our phones, you'd probably have a lot more. Like 944 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:04.559 the mental health thing would be not as bad as 945 00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.000 it is because everyone gets so stressed out over you know, 946 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.239 this tweet or that tweet or whatever, you know, email, 947 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:13.119 you know, whatever they're trying to push through Facebook reels 948 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:16.760 and all the other stuff that's out there. Yeah, and 949 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.119 now it's all AI generated too. You see stuff, And 950 00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:21.639 I got people sending things about like, oh, look at 951 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:24.440 this poor guy, you know, you got robbed on the subway, 952 00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:26.920 And I'm like, oh, that's obviously fake. You can see 953 00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:29.400 he's got like eight fingers on one hand, and or 954 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.599 he's you know, he's jumping eight feet in the air 955 00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:34.079 to give to this other guy. And I was like, 956 00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:36.360 it's all fake, Like I don't how do you not 957 00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:36.719 see this? 958 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:41.280 Yeah, all the world's a stage. Can I ask you 959 00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:46.159 for your your silver bullets? If you're having a conversation 960 00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.039 with somebody, which are the ones that you think are 961 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:52.079 the most uh, you know, take the biggest hit to 962 00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:52.559 the globe? 963 00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:55.840 Well, my I guess my biggest one is the uh 964 00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:00.280 having a pressurized atmosphere next to a complete back cume 965 00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:04.960 of endless space. And it's how when there's no barrier. 966 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.599 I mean I work with pressurized gases all the time, 967 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:10.760 and you don't get a pressurized gas without having some 968 00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.000 kind of container. So that was a big one. And 969 00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.000 I you know, you can have spaceships, you know, little 970 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:20.519 satellites or everything goes out of it. All these launches 971 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.519 they can somehow go through this thing, but it's not 972 00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:27.280 sucking our atmosphere into the vacuum. I got explain that 973 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.079 to me, you know, if you can, But I don't 974 00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:32.400 think that's possible. The other ones with the I think 975 00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:34.840 we talked about the flight pass and the emergency landings, 976 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.960 rail weapons, and radar. The line of sight for a 977 00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:44.199 rail gun is to hit an accurate They can accurately 978 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:48.119 hit targets one hundred miles away. So I don't know 979 00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:52.199 how you like a rail gun shoots straight line, and 980 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.559 I don't know how you can shoot one hundred miles 981 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.159 in a straight line and not go into space with 982 00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:01.480 on our curved earth. So and then I guess the 983 00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.000 other one was that playeris never moves. The North Star 984 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:10.239 is always stationary, no matter how many times are you know, 985 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:14.599 supposed globe flies around the Sun and we're we're doing 986 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:17.159 the little trip around the universe and through the galaxy, 987 00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:20.320 that that one star just somehow is always in the 988 00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:21.000 same location. 989 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:25.119 My sister listened to this podcast for my birthday. She 990 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.639 got me a compass instead of North It says, God. 991 00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:32.920 Nice. I guess going on that too. I mean, those 992 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:34.719 are my points I don't I don't have six. I 993 00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.119 got four there. So, but there was something I don't 994 00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:39.880 know if I've heard it on your podcast or not, 995 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.519 but it was about I don't know if it has 996 00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.639 anyone talked about, like the speeds when which we're supposedly 997 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:52.000 traveling as far as like compared to a bullet. So 998 00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.880 I guess I did a search one and I searched 999 00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:58.679 on Google and I did how fast does a bullet 1000 00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:03.639 travel in miles per hour? And it says, when bullets 1001 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.960 fly through the air, they do so at amazing speeds. 1002 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:10.960

The fastest bullets can travel more than twenty two thousand, 1003 00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:15.920 six hundred feet per second. That's equivalent to over one thousand, 1004 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:19.400 eight hundred miles per hour. And then it says, to 1005 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:23.440 put that in perspective, it's amazing to realize that bullets 1006 00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:27.519 travel over twice the speed of sound. So a bullet's 1007 00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.800 going eighteen hundred miles an hour when you shoot it 1008 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.760 out of a gun. So then it talks about Then 1009 00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:36.079 I went further on. I was like, well, how fast 1010 00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:40.360 does the Earth rotate around its access? And then well, 1011 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:42.760 that's a thousand miles per hour that you know at 1012 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:45.679 the equator, that's where you get your it's twenty four 1013 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:47.679 thousand miles and it's a day to go around, so right, 1014 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.760 twenty four thousand. But it's the Earth revolves in its 1015 00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:55.599 orbit around the Sun in three hundred and sixty five 1016 00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:59.440 days and six hours and nine minutes. With the reference 1017 00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:02.880 to the star at a speed of about sixty seven 1018 00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:08.159 thousand miles per hour. Correct, that is thirty seven point 1019 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.280 two times faster than a bullet. So you're expecting, like 1020 00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:13.800 you see you shoot a gun and you see how 1021 00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.840 fast that bullet goes, which you don't see, but you're 1022 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:19.960 supposed to believe that we are traveling on a globe 1023 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:25.559 going thirty seven times faster than a bullet flying around 1024 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:29.119 the sun, and we don't feel it thin, there's no thing. 1025 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.559 And then it was the other one about how fast 1026 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:36.280 is the sun orbiting the Milky Way? And that was 1027 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:41.280 five hundred and fourteen thousand miles per hour, which is 1028 00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:46.199 two hundred and eighty five times the speed of a bullet. Wow, 1029 00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:50.239 So that's how fast we're supposedly traveling. Like you know, 1030 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:53.480 and you're driving a car and you go on sixty 1031 00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:56.079 five miles down the highway, feel and you slow down, 1032 00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.920 you slow down to fifty you feel that, Yeah, like 1033 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:01.800 you'll feel fifteen miles an hour, And that's just a 1034 00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.599 fifteen miles an hour. We're talking thousands of miles per 1035 00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.480 hour that we're traveling and you don't feel a thing. 1036 00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.480 And you can put a glass of water and there's 1037 00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:15.440 no shimmer. There's nothing like that's so that was always 1038 00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.559 kind of a fun thing that I follow when I 1039 00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:19.840 was like, oh, that's ad that is interesting. 1040 00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:25.119 Even a nine mili bullet that travels around eight hundred 1041 00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.000 miles per hour, that's two hundred miles an hour less 1042 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:32.039 than we're supposedly traveling, right, right, that's insane. 1043 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:35.800 That's even even us rotating in a certain you know, 1044 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:39.679 on our access it was zero point five five times 1045 00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:41.400 the speed of a bullet, So it's half the speed 1046 00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:45.159 of a bullet that we're supposedly traveling around that even 1047 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:47.119 just I mean this local if you were like, and 1048 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.920 supposedly you're you're moving faster at the equator than you 1049 00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.199 are at that north pole, which doesn't really. 1050 00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.559 Right, there's no rotation up there. Basically it's like zero 1051 00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:57.119 point one miles per hour. 1052 00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.599 Yeah, and then you're telling me like, if you were 1053 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.920 a standing ten feet off the north pole, are you 1054 00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.320 are you just spinning a little tiny circle and you're 1055 00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:07.280 not gonna like feel that. 1056 00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:10.920 So if there's different miles per hour through obviously the 1057 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:13.119 equator is the one thousand and thirty seven, and the 1058 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.239 closer you get to the poles, the less that ball 1059 00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:18.559 is spinning, wouldn't I be able to jump higher. 1060 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.000 Right or the other side, like if you if I 1061 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.440 was traveling toward the north pole, wouldn't I feel the 1062 00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:29.320 shift of going slower? I mean, I'm going you know, 1063 00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:31.400 one thousand miles per hour at the equator if I 1064 00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:35.239 start driving north, which you know doesn't really work on 1065 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:36.840 a globe if you got a compass, because if you 1066 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.480 put it compasses around the ball right right, they all 1067 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:41.639 don't point north. You know, it's like it only works 1068 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:42.280 on a flat earth. 1069 00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:44.960 Also that Yeah, they try to tell us what you're 1070 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.199 moving at that speed, so you just don't know, you 1071 00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:49.559 don't notice

you're giving one thousand and forty miles an 1072 00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:52.559 hour he put when ling shot brother and send you flying. 1073 00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:53.480 Tell me you don't feel it? 1074 00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:56.159 Yeah, yeah, And you're supposedly you know, some of these 1075 00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.159 orbits are elliptical where you're not like in a perfect circle, 1076 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:02.199 so you're only there's not a slow down, a gradual 1077 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:03.920 slow down, a kind of speed up, and a slow 1078 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.039 you know, like as you're spinning back and forth. 1079 00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.360 But you know what the big eye opener for me 1080 00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:11.880 was it was going back and looking just over the 1081 00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:15.880 last three hundred years how many times those numbers have changed. 1082 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:18.880 And I'm talking all of the numbers, man, I just 1083 00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:23.400 had my notes out that the Earth rotation at the equator, 1084 00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:26.239 the Earth orbiting the Sun, the Sun orbiting the center 1085 00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:30.519 of the Milky Way, and the Milky Way moving through space, 1086 00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:34.639 all of those numbers have changed several times over the 1087 00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:37.280 last two three hundred years. But you know it's never 1088 00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:38.840 changed the word of God, never once. 1089 00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:42.440 Yep, right right, And how convenient that they're all so 1090 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.719 close to the six hundred and sixty six Oh yeah number, 1091 00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:49.079 you know it's the I guess. Another one was that 1092 00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:51.840 when you look up NASA and you find the uh 1093 00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:58.599 that National Aeronautics and Space Administration. When you look when 1094 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.199 you put that into numerology, G and you A is 1095 00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.440 twenty six and Z is one. All that spelling equals 1096 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.719 six hundred and sixty six. Yeah, it's like, yep, yeah, 1097 00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:12.119 that that was something I sent to uh that the 1098 00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:16.480 buddy who called me about the landing. So I'm putting 1099 00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:18.719 back I could send you that. 1100 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:19.199 Uh. 1101 00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:22.880 I have an image of it where it's you know, 1102 00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:24.920 it chose NASA and it says, you know, NAS obviously 1103 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:29.280 means to deceive and Hebrew, and it's uh. There's a 1104 00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.639 whole breakdown of like each word and how much how many? 1105 00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:38.320 So it's uh again, A is twenty six and Z 1106 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.280 is one, and if you spell that out and put 1107 00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:44.159 numeral values for each letter, it's six sixty six. 1108 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.719 Well that is thirty three. So there's your thirty three. 1109 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:58.079 Yeah. Well, I don't know if they count. It's National 1110 00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:02.079 Aeronautics and Space Administer, so they they don't do the 1111 00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:03.360 there's no down there. 1112 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.800 Oh okay, gotcha, gotcha. That's you know that even the 1113 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:10.800 biggest symbol is the imagery with the serpent's tongue around it. Yeah, 1114 00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:14.159 it's just so in your face and such a and 1115 00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:16.400 people are like, what does it matter? Is like, do 1116 00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:19.360 you not care that seventy million dollars? And who knows what. 1117 00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:22.000 They're realizing how much money that they're getting. 1118 00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.880 Every single day. Let me ask you this. I want 1119 00:55:24.920 --> 00:55:27.639 to This is a two part question. Number one, did 1120 00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:31.360 you think that Armstrong Aldron and those guys buzz Aldron 1121 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:33.960 did they know going in that this was going to 1122 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:38.800 be faked or was it a last minute change for that? 1123 00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:42.039 I think I think it was the last minute thing. 1124 00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.440 I think, like you said, you've mentioned before where you 1125 00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:46.639 know they they're training, they really think they're going to 1126 00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.639 do it, And I have to I don't know why 1127 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.159 you'd go through all the training and take that like seriously, 1128 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:53.960 and you know he put the lemon on that on 1129 00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.800 that thing saying like we're not We're way behind here. 1130 00:55:56.840 --> 00:55:59.159 This isn't working. I don't know why you would do 1131 00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:02.000 all that if you didn't believe at some point you 1132 00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:04.400 were going into space. But yeah, I think, like you 1133 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:06.280 said on launch day, I think they bring them all 1134 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.119 in a room and tell them like, you're gonna play 1135 00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:11.320 ball or you're gonna die, and not only you're going 1136 00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:13.679 to die, but your family's probably gonna die, and everyone's 1137 00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.119 going to die in a horrible accident. So play ball, 1138 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.039 because you see that. That whole interview is just so telling. 1139 00:56:20.119 --> 00:56:22.760 When they're they're all sitting at the table, they've all 1140 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.320 went to the moon, the greatest accomplishment in you know, 1141 00:56:25.440 -->

00:56:28.960 mankind's history, and they all look like someone killed their dog. 1142 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:31.320 You know, it's like they're all just beat down and 1143 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:34.039 they're like, well, I don't remember how I don't remember 1144 00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:36.599 seeing stars, do you? And you know they're it's just 1145 00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:40.519 they're they're so somber at that point, and you'd think, like, 1146 00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:45.840 this is something that I mean, people went to Super 1147 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.320 Bowl and they are astatic people, you know, they are 1148 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.960 jumping around like it's the best day on the planet. 1149 00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.039 And these guys went to the moon and back supposedly, 1150 00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.360 and they are sad and like not real happy about 1151 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.719 their day, you know. So I do think it was 1152 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.159 that I think they're forcing to do it, and I 1153 00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:06.079 think at that point maybe they realized a little bit 1154 00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.280 of like, this is gonna stick with my this is 1155 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.920 my legacy if you will. You know, it's like, I'm 1156 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:14.480 gonna have to lie about this for the rest of 1157 00:57:14.559 --> 00:57:17.400 my life. And I think that weighs on people, and 1158 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:18.199 there's you know. 1159 00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:21.960 I'd like to say, I'd like to give them a 1160 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:25.440 pass because once again they're putting a situation that we 1161 00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:28.320 could never imagine on one side having to care and. 1162 00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:32.519 I'm sure we'd all lie about it after my family. 1163 00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:35.760 Yeah, But at the same time, my goodness, having to 1164 00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:40.679 wear that burden literally the greatest lie, one of the 1165 00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:45.079 top five at least in human history. And that's how 1166 00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:45.960 and how tough. 1167 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.440 You know, every convention you go to and everyone's like 1168 00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:51.559 you're a hero, you know, and there and you know 1169 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.320 you're not like you know that, like you sat in 1170 00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:57.559 a room. It's you know, it's the same like if 1171 00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:01.159 if someone was congratulating you on a super you'd be like, 1172 00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:04.000 I never played man, I never I was never there. 1173 00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.000 And how tough would that be? 1174 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:06.280 You know? 1175 00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.840 Meanwhile people are idolizing you, and you're in every school 1176 00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:12.119 book and you're the first man. You got all the 1177 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:14.559 famous words about the first step on the moon and 1178 00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:15.840 just sad. 1179 00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:20.360 Yeah, well, I imagine even during the when they came 1180 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.639 back and they had to you know, hang out for 1181 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:26.039 what was it five days or ten days or seven 1182 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:30.159 days quarantine before they could come out, they were probably 1183 00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.239 showing even do you remember Thomas barn No, So, Thomas 1184 00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:38.000 Barron was the guy you'd mentioned Gus Grissom who hung 1185 00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.360 the lemon on the Apollo one. Yes, and then they 1186 00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:43.360 had the flash fire that killed Grissom, White and Chaffy. 1187 00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:48.719 So this guy, Thomas Baron, he was a control and 1188 00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:52.880 safety inspector for North American Aviation and he was a 1189 00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:56.719 one of the OG whistleblowers. He wrote this one and 1190 00:58:56.800 --> 00:59:00.519 seventy five two hundred page report calling out everything that 1191 00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:06.280 went wrong, and he testified on April twenty first, nineteen 1192 00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.239 sixty seven, and then six days later, his car just 1193 00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.920 happens to stall out on the train tracks and it 1194 00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:16.039 was himself, his wife, and his stepdaughter all killed instantly. 1195 00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:20.199 So ye, Cia, excuse me, but yeah, man, that's right, 1196 00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.920 that's what happens. And they probably said, you remember that 1197 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:25.840 Thomas white guy, you say a word. That's your whole 1198 00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:28.880 family they took out, not just him, that's the entire family. 1199 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:31.519 They will kill a child and not lose a wink 1200 00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:34.000 of sleep. These are the people we're dealing with, right. 1201 00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:34.719 They're monsters. 1202 00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:41.519 Yeah, absolutely psychopathic monsters and man, unbelievable Paul worshiping Lucifarians, 1203 00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:43.119 as you put it in your email, I believe right. 1204 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:46.920 Yeah, and that's not far from the truth. 1205 00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:49.400 No, no, no, that's that's precisely what they are. 1206 00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:49.559 Bro. 1207 00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:54.199 Can we go back a little bit and visit, man, 1208 00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:56.800 it's already hour in. Can we visit what it was 1209 00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:59.800 like being in Minnesota from your perspective in the summer of. 1210 00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:03.320 Tw e twenty oh, the Summer of Love. Yeah, we 1211 01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:08.679 get that was that was a weird time. I remember 1212 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:16.000 watching that

event, you know, shoving with his knee and 1213 01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:20.239 then you know that whole thing unfolding, and it was like, 1214 01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:26.360 you know, parts of the cities are they're burning and 1215 01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:29.800 everyone's like, no one's going downtown and there's riots everywhere. 1216 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:34.639 And I remember that was like the h if, I know, 1217 01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:36.920 it's good for gun sales because if you didn't, you know, 1218 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:39.239 if you didn't have anything to protect your home, you 1219 01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:43.280 were all buying guns. So that was a tough time. 1220 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:47.079 But it's even then, it was like I remember having 1221 01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:49.159 things from work saying like, you know, if you're going 1222 01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:51.920 somewhere and you don't feel safe, then you just call 1223 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:53.559 us and let us know and you don't have to 1224 01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:55.599 go down, you know. But it was mostly just the 1225 01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:59.119 inner city area, but you could see that, like there 1226 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:01.800 was certain like streets that would go down there where 1227 01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:07.039 you could see the burning things on fire. It it's 1228 01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:09.840 just kind of a weird, like this is okay in 1229 01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:12.400 our society that we're in. And I guess a lot 1230 01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.039 of me that was waiting for martial law, but you know, 1231 01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:21.039 that never happened. So it was I guess an interesting 1232 01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:22.920 time where it was like kind of an embarrassment to 1233 01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:26.920 be in Minnesota at that point, it was, Oh good, 1234 01:01:27.039 --> 01:01:29.280 it's us, because of course I got other friends, you know, 1235 01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:32.599 and they're messaging me about like, oh, what's going on 1236 01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:35.719 in your neck of the woods there, and it's like, yeah, yeah, 1237 01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:39.519 it's us, Like it's us again. Yeah, just like everything else, 1238 01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:42.320 just like the Somali daycarees and all the other things 1239 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.679 that happen up here. It's always like Minnesota, and it's 1240 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:51.400 that that I don't know if it's just like our 1241 01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:53.960 governor or if it's just like if we just are 1242 01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:57.039 the ground zero for a lot of this stuff. 1243 01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:00.239 Yeah, that's a great point. And at some point point, 1244 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.360 you know, people blame the Somali people, but at some 1245 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.400 point shouldn't we say the government did a pretty poor 1246 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:05.719 job vetting these people. 1247 01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:08.800 Yeah. Yeah, well, and it's like they didn't. They wouldn't 1248 01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:11.760 have this, you know, there wouldn't be a daycare scandal 1249 01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:15.920 if our government was doing their job. You know, it's like, okay, 1250 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:18.320 so we're just gonna bring these people. It's it's to 1251 01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:22.400 get everyone else riled up. And you know, it's another 1252 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.960 group to hate, and it's another group to like point 1253 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:27.000 a finger at and be like they're the bad guys, 1254 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:30.480 they're the bad so it's it's the I guess if 1255 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:34.840 you the elites or the the people in control of 1256 01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:39.760 the situation, basically pitting the lower people together, like you said, 1257 01:02:39.800 --> 01:02:42.440 you got I probably have way more in common than 1258 01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:45.519 with any of the Somalis that live in Minnesota than 1259 01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:48.000 I do with anyone in the government. You know, anyone 1260 01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:51.199 that's uh printing money just to fill their own pockets. 1261 01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:54.719 You know, that's that's on them, and they're but they're 1262 01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:56.039 gonna divide us anyway they can. 1263 01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:59.000 Yeah. Yeah, just even the whole Trump account, all all 1264 01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:04.239 the powers that the Robin Hoods etf traders and the 1265 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:07.159 Black Rocks, all of the it's the same people who 1266 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:09.119 are going to profit from these things and make it 1267 01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:14.079 sound like you know, you're you're child's gonna man. And 1268 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.880 I said yesterday, I said, imagine being talked into given 1269 01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:18.840 the government your money? 1270 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:19.960 Are you kidding? 1271 01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:24.000 Man? Are you absolutely kidding me? I would rather give 1272 01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.280 it to I mean, we'll leave it at that. But 1273 01:03:26.719 --> 01:03:30.880 my goodness, let me ask you this. We're stepping away 1274 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:33.960 a little bit. But I always found it interesting that 1275 01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:36.079 all these people on the world stage have like a 1276 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:40.079 military connection, and Derek Chauvin was no different. He was 1277 01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:42.519 in the military for quite some time. He was in Germany. 1278 01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:44.119 So was. 1279 01:03:46.039 --> 01:03:53.400 Why am I Oklahoma City? That guy? Yeah McVeigh, Yeah, 1280 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:55.679 he was a military And this guy was on the 1281 01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:00.400 PSD of Schwartzkoff. He was on the security detail with 1282 01:04:00.519 -->

01:04:03.039 Schwartz Golf. So I think a lot of and this 1283 01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.159 even ties back to the astronauts. I think in order 1284 01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.519 to be one of these assets, you have to be 1285 01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.559 and brother, I don't know if it's something that they 1286 01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:14.880 set up the tech like remember the astab tests and 1287 01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:17.239 all that stuff we took. Maybe if you answer it 1288 01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:20.760 a certain way, it shows them that you can be 1289 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:24.119 manipulated or I'm not sure how, but I think even 1290 01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:29.599 a lot of these current day astronauts are mkid ultrad 1291 01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:32.920 into believe in what was that Schwarzenegger movie when he 1292 01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.239 goes on vacation, he really doesn't. He just sits in 1293 01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:37.920 a chair and they run this program in his brain. 1294 01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:43.400 Oh you remember that. That wasn't the No, that's not 1295 01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:45.360 the Thick and Running Man, But it was the other 1296 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.079 one where he's isn't the Mars one where he's give 1297 01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:49.360 them that one? 1298 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:49.960 I think so. 1299 01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.079 But I really think that the technology they have today 1300 01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.599 is twenty years old. And the stuff that they, like 1301 01:04:57.679 --> 01:04:59.960 you said, the Elite, the Hidden Hand, the Matrix are 1302 01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:04.559 they have stuff that is just far beyond imagine in 1303 01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:12.119 say nineteen ninety five, somebody holding an iPad in your 1304 01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.880 face with Wi Fi nothing connected to it and you're 1305 01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:17.800 watching a movie on netflix'd your mind. 1306 01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:19.719 Would be like you'd be like, oh, I'm in Star Trek, 1307 01:05:19.800 --> 01:05:20.760 so yeah. 1308 01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.400 Yeah, so yeah. The stuff that they have, I honestly 1309 01:05:24.519 --> 01:05:29.000 believe that there's a case to these people have been 1310 01:05:29.079 --> 01:05:33.199 brainwashed manipulated, because even in Congress last week, that guy 1311 01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:35.639 came out and said, well, yeah, we're we might still 1312 01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:38.280 be doing mk ultra. And it's probably the people who 1313 01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:42.119 believe and swear that they've been to space but they've 1314 01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:44.920 never even they haven't gone anywhere. 1315 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:47.400 They believe in it. And it's the same what they 1316 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:51.400 trickle out stuff. You know, it's the voice to Skull 1317 01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:53.559 thing or whatever where they can beam you with something 1318 01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:56.119 and oh yeah travels the waves and you know, you 1319 01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:57.679 think and it's like, oh so you can make you 1320 01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:00.679 hear voices and they can make you do so going 1321 01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:05.119 back to like that, I guess my uh my target 1322 01:06:05.239 --> 01:06:06.800 incident where I was like I thought I was a 1323 01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:09.679 crazy one. Now if I'm in Target and I'm walking 1324 01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:11.360 around also, now I hear a voice in my head. 1325 01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:13.559 Now I'm really gonna think I'm the crazy one, and 1326 01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:16.119 I'm gonna think it's gonna isolate me even more and more. 1327 01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:18.480 And all it takes is someone who's you know, they 1328 01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:21.840 can just push certain people to a point where now 1329 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:23.880 maybe that guy's gonna listen to any voice he says, 1330 01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:26.079 and you know he's gonna start doing the things because 1331 01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:31.199 maybe whatever he might believe God's talking to him or whatever. 1332 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.039 But they can pretty much play. They find their people 1333 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:37.039 and they test him out, and then once they test 1334 01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:38.559 him out a few times, they're like, well, we got 1335 01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:40.159 this guy, let's just do what he wants. You know. 1336 01:06:40.480 --> 01:06:42.760 Yeah, I always wonder if you know, once they are 1337 01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:44.519 they done with them, did they just wash their hands? 1338 01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:48.440 And it doesn't matter whether it's Chauvin McVeigh or Gislaine Maxwell, 1339 01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:52.400 Like I don't honestly don't believe she's in jail at all. 1340 01:06:52.840 --> 01:06:54.719 I think No, No, I don't think a lot. And 1341 01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:56.360 I don't even know about like, you know, you hear 1342 01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:59.000 about Derek Shavin and whatever, and it's like, well, he 1343 01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:00.559 could be in jail. He could, you know, It's like 1344 01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.320 no one ever, like I mean, your local person will 1345 01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:06.360 not like I'm not going to go down to the 1346 01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:08.039 jail house and see if he's in there. Like I 1347 01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:11.400 got better things to do. Yeah, So, like no one 1348 01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:14.800 really checks on all these little supposed things that are 1349 01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:19.519 going around and you know, all these the Somalid cares 1350 01:07:19.559 --> 01:07:22.440 and all the things like I'm busy enough as it is, 1351 01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:24.320 and I got like, that's not on my radar. I 1352 01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:25.400 don't care about that stuff. 1353 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:26.400 So agreed. 1354

01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:29.920 Yeah, so we just leave whatever the phone throws at us, 1355 01:07:29.960 --> 01:07:32.199 and it's like, oh that's going on. Oh so half 1356 01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.559 the stuff like oh, we got a huge storm down 1357 01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:39.360 in North Carolina, And I'm like do we Like I'm 1358 01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:41.559 not there. I don't know anybody that's down there right now, 1359 01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:44.800 So like are they just telling me this just to like, 1360 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:48.400 you know, ramp me up or whatever. I don't know. 1361 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:50.519 Do you get the camp trails up in your neck 1362 01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:51.280 of the woods like we do? 1363 01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:53.480 Yes, Yeah, we get a lot of them. We get 1364 01:07:53.719 --> 01:07:55.599 you know, there might be a day where usually it's 1365 01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:57.760 the days when they're they're not in the air where 1366 01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.880 we start like on, hey, look it's blue sky, Like 1367 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:04.159 that's amazing. And then you know, six hours later, it's like, oh, wait, 1368 01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.039 not anymore. You know, now we got trails going through 1369 01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:10.440 and there's criss crossing all over the place, and yeah, 1370 01:08:10.599 --> 01:08:12.239 so yeah, we get them quite a bit, and then 1371 01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:14.159 of course we'll get the storms going through. And it's 1372 01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:15.400 so that's what they're doing. 1373 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:19.279 Yeah, we noticed they spray heavier right before the fronts 1374 01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:22.920 come in. It's like like they did Operation Popeye in Vietnam. 1375 01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:26.680 Yeah. Yeah, and it's I don't know if a lot 1376 01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:28.479 of it. I'm like, are they just doing this to 1377 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:31.000 like ramp people up? And it's that whole feeding on 1378 01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:33.960 your emotions thing and taking your lose or whatever the 1379 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:38.359 new thing that's coming around now, Like they're feeding on 1380 01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:41.119 your emotions, like, oh, it's oh it's Friday's coming up, 1381 01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:43.079 I'm going to go have these weekend plans. And then 1382 01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:46.039 it's like, well, let's you know, let's carpet bomb them 1383 01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:49.640 with these uh chem trails and now it's raining all weekend. 1384 01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:53.680 Oh it's cloudy, and you know, so now everyone's upset 1385 01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:55.479 because now their weekend's wrecked, you know, and it's I 1386 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.640 think it might have been a lot of playing around 1387 01:08:57.680 --> 01:08:58.760 with people's emotions. 1388 01:08:59.279 --> 01:09:03.199 It's funny to see people get manipulated, like even with 1389 01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:05.960 with sports. One of the USA players got a red 1390 01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:09.159 card and people lost their mind then jump and I 1391 01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:11.399 guess some I don't know. The story is some lawyers 1392 01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:13.920 from the government filed something. They took away the red 1393 01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:17.800 card and and just watching people go back and forth 1394 01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:20.920 about the most trivial of things that have nothing to 1395 01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:23.199 do with life, it's just funny to watch. And that's 1396 01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:26.279 just another example of millions how they're able to manipulate us. 1397 01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:28.439 Yeah, and I guess on that side, I've never been 1398 01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:31.039 a sports like that's one thing I guess I've kind 1399 01:09:31.039 --> 01:09:33.399 of dodged. I've never cared about sports. My dad has 1400 01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:38.399 always been into like, you know, every Sunday would be pregame, 1401 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:42.039 post game, like all the stuff in between, Yeah, all 1402 01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:44.000 the sports, like you know, hey, we're going off for dinner. 1403 01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:46.600 You oh there's a basketball tournament. I can't go, you know, 1404 01:09:46.760 --> 01:09:50.399 And it's like it as a kid growing up with that, 1405 01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:54.279 I just remember thinking like this is you're gonna waste 1406 01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:55.800 your all day doing this, and then it was like, 1407 01:09:56.039 --> 01:09:58.279 you know, of course they lose and you're upset and 1408 01:09:58.359 --> 01:10:00.640 now it's rex your Monday too. Is it carries on 1409 01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:03.279 because you go to work and all your packer buddies 1410 01:10:03.359 --> 01:10:05.680 are like, ha, we kicked your ass, and you know 1411 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:08.680 now it's like, oh okay, well now now if not, 1412 01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:10.399 I'm angry because well, you know, they did a bad 1413 01:10:10.479 --> 01:10:13.399 play and you can't control any of it. And I 1414 01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:15.760 just thought, like, I'm not doing that, Like that's that's 1415 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.359 not me. Like so I never really got into the 1416 01:10:18.399 --> 01:10:21.079 sports thing. I never really cared about it, and I 1417 01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:23.199 guess for me that was a fortunate thing. But it's 1418 01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:26.279 the same, like you said, now, I get well, we 1419 01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:28.359 were just using Life three sixty, you know, for the 1420 01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:30.920 family to find out where everyone's at. And I looked 1421 01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:32.800 at it last week and there was all these little 1422 01:10:32.840 --> 01:10:35.760 stadiums everywhere, and I was like, is there's something going on? 1423 01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:38.199 Like

what is this? Like what are these? And I 1424 01:10:38.239 --> 01:10:40.680 think it was like the soccer thing or whatever that 1425 01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:44.159 was going wrong. Yeah, yeah, so I'm like, am I 1426 01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:46.359 supposed to know about this? Like, but I don't know 1427 01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:48.399 why there's so many of these little stadiums and they're 1428 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:52.399 showing them everywhere because I don't care about it. But yeah, 1429 01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:54.159 that was that was a kind of a funny thing. 1430 01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:56.920 Is kind of probably how clueless I am about that stuff. 1431 01:10:57.560 --> 01:10:57.960 That's good. 1432 01:10:58.000 --> 01:10:58.439 I was. 1433 01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:00.680 I was like your father. I mean, the Eagles would 1434 01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.079 lose on a Sunday, don't talk to me till Tuesday. 1435 01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:08.119 You know, everybody be calling the local radio station, fire 1436 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:11.720 the coach and yeh boy. And you know I don't. 1437 01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:14.000 I'm not the person who regrets anything, but yeah, I 1438 01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:18.520 probably should have reprioritized and I do now. I'll watch it, 1439 01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:20.800 you know, every now and then if I'll watch the 1440 01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.720 end of a Phillies game, if it's on or something. 1441 01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:26.159 But my goodness, it doesn't matter if they lose twenty 1442 01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:29.479 six to nothing. I'm on to taking care of the dogs, 1443 01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:35.600 the yard, the plants, and it's just the Again. Twenty 1444 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.279 twenty was awful, you know, my dad passed to twenty nineteen, 1445 01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:42.399 we sold everything, moved up here, and then we got 1446 01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:45.079 here February of twenty twenty. We lived through all of 1447 01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:48.079 that nonsense and we finally got this property of July 1448 01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:52.479 of twenty one. But that time frame from the end 1449 01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:55.640 of twenty nineteen till you know, July of twenty one, 1450 01:11:55.800 --> 01:12:01.039 I learned so much and I reprior tour, every prioritize 1451 01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:03.239 my life. And I'm not perfect on any way straight 1452 01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:08.119 or form stretch of form, but I understand, you know, 1453 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:10.520 the things that we should be spending our time on. 1454 01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.399 And of course there's always a time for recreation. Some 1455 01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:17.000 people it's fishing, some people it's watching a ballgame. You know, 1456 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:17.439 we all have. 1457 01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:20.319 You got to check out, absolutely, you know you have 1458 01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:22.079 a long day, you can check out with something and 1459 01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:24.439 kind of get your mind off. I don't know the 1460 01:12:24.640 --> 01:12:26.159 stress of life, I guess, but. 1461 01:12:26.399 --> 01:12:29.560 It can't control you, right right. It Like it turns 1462 01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:31.359 me up when we're in church on Sunday's brother and 1463 01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:33.520 people looking at their watch like, hey, you know, kickoffs 1464 01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:36.640 in like forty five minutes past her. That really upsets me. 1465 01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:38.560 And I was in the church one time, you know, 1466 01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:41.760 the prayer request the ravens are. It was a sweet 1467 01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:47.399 old lady like I'm just like, oh my goodness for a. 1468 01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:49.119 Game that's probably rigged anyway. 1469 01:12:48.920 --> 01:12:51.159 Oh absolutely, yeah, Oh for sure. 1470 01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:54.920 Man. Yeah that's another funny thing too, Like you know, 1471 01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:57.439 you go, you have church on Sunday, and then you 1472 01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:02.000 know there might be a little less people showing up 1473 01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:03.920 because the game's on or whatever. But then you go 1474 01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:06.319 to the grocery store and everyone's like racing in to 1475 01:13:06.399 --> 01:13:10.880 get all their stuff, and they got their colors on right, 1476 01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:13.159 They're buying all their dips and chips and all this stuff. 1477 01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:14.640 They got it because they got a big game going. 1478 01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:18.159 And I was like, it's just like it's just bread 1479 01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:19.520 and circus, you know, it's all over. 1480 01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:23.399 Yeah, one hundred man, this has been the fastest seventy 1481 01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:25.640 five minutes. Did you have anything else in your notes 1482 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:26.760 that we haven't touched on yet? 1483 01:13:28.039 --> 01:13:30.239 I got, well, I want I wanted to mention the 1484 01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:32.880 guy you had, a guy from Australia and he talked 1485 01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:34.880 about he had a quote that I was like, I 1486 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:38.319 just loved it. It's if the Earth was a globe, 1487 01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.359 there would be no flat earthers, and I just I 1488 01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:45.000 mean that really that really hit me when he said it, 1489 01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:48.239 because I was like, it's the probably the truest statement 1490 01:13:48.279 --> 01:13:50.920 out there. And I was like, so, you know, when 1491 01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:53.560 I tried to explain flatter to like the coworkers that 1492 01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:56.000 I'll listen, you know, I'm like kind of bringing it 1493 01:13:56.119 --> 01:13:57.720 up and they're like, well, how does that work? And 1494 01:13:57.760 --> 01:13:59.319 how does it? And so

I'm like, you know, trying 1495 01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:01.760 to show my little plate diagram and being like, this 1496 01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:03.720 is an article around here, and this is you know, 1497 01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:06.319 we're this is how the sun moves, and you know, 1498 01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:08.720 they just kind of look at me and go, but 1499 01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:10.840 then why is this? And then I'll answer, you know, 1500 01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:13.119 to the best of my ability, I'll try to like 1501 01:14:13.399 --> 01:14:15.359 clue them in, and then I you know, I always 1502 01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:18.159 catch myself and I'll be like, look, I know it 1503 01:14:18.279 --> 01:14:21.960 sounds mental, and I know, like like I know what 1504 01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:23.800 I sound like when I tell you this stuff, like 1505 01:14:23.880 --> 01:14:26.640 I know where I was and I know when like, 1506 01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:29.520 so I don't really expect you to jump all on 1507 01:14:29.680 --> 01:14:31.640 board about this, and I'm like, but look it up. 1508 01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:33.680 I go, look, just check out some of these facts. 1509 01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:36.359 And so it's like that bread crumbs thing you always 1510 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:39.199 talk about where I'm like, you just have to go 1511 01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:43.800 into it knowing you're not ninety nine percent of the time, 1512 01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:45.720 you are not going to convince someone the Earth is 1513 01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.399 flat in an argument, you know, or even a discussion, 1514 01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:51.720 cause it's gonna take some time, just like it took 1515 01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:53.960 time for pretty much all of us. Like nobody hears 1516 01:14:54.359 --> 01:14:56.359 the Earth is flat, and You're like, I'm jumping on 1517 01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:59.199 board with that because that sounds right. You know, we've 1518 01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:02.800 all been programm from little kids. You know, we got 1519 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:04.680 a globe in every picture, we got a globe on 1520 01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:08.119 every TV show, and this is just what we believe. 1521 01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:11.159 There's so many space movies where you're like, of course, 1522 01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:14.279 there's us universes out there that we don't know about, 1523 01:15:14.359 --> 01:15:20.119 and you're like, okay, because we've all been indoctrinated into that. 1524 01:15:20.319 --> 01:15:23.079 So it's when you explain it to people and you 1525 01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:24.680 tell them about it, you just have to like go, 1526 01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:28.199 I'm gonna tell you something and I'm gonna don't even 1527 01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:30.720 think about it, just look into it when you got time, 1528 01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.479 and and just have to accept that you're gonna be 1529 01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:35.399 crazy for a while. You're gonna you're gonna be the 1530 01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:37.880 one that they're gonna laugh about. They're gonna behind your back, 1531 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:39.800 they're gonna be like, you know what this guy thinks about, 1532 01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:42.279 Like he thinks the world's flat, and you're gonna be 1533 01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:43.720 the joke for a while, you know. 1534 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:50.520 And that really goes to show how psychologically advanced they are. 1535 01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:55.520 That we the people who think that water has to 1536 01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:59.159 have a container, that you know, the ground is leveled. 1537 01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:02.560 I'm obviously mountains hills and all of that. The Bible 1538 01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.960 is a flat earth by you know book, it's very 1539 01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:11.159 you know, stern, and it is it cannot be moved. 1540 01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:14.399 And the sun and the moon rotate around us, the 1541 01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:17.600 lesser light for the evening and the greater light for 1542 01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:21.239 the day. And you know, you always have those preachers, 1543 01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:23.680 you know, telling you to be like Brian's until you know, 1544 01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:25.000 well accept that. 1545 01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:27.159 You know, yeah, I just heard you talking about that. 1546 01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:29.119 And that's that's it right on, because it's like as 1547 01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:31.159 soon as you go in there and you're like, oh, 1548 01:16:31.239 --> 01:16:34.119 I believe the Bible one and you're like do you? 1549 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:37.640 Because what about this? And then they're like, well that's metaphoric, 1550 01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:40.479 that's uh. You know, they're just talking about how stable 1551 01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:42.800 the world is. And I'm like, are they or are 1552 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:44.159 they talking about four pillars that? 1553 01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:49.600 Yeah? And then again it's just the psychological technology or advancement, 1554 01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:53.279 whatever word you want to use that we're we're the morons, right, 1555 01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:56.000 but the people who were we believe on a ball 1556 01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:59.560 that somehow can hold water. Yeah, And it's all the 1557 01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:03.239 spinning and hurdling, you know, we're the crazy people. 1558 01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.560 It's just there's an endless, complete vacuum. Out there where 1559 01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:10.680 you're like endless, like it just goes on forever, Like okay, 1560 01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:13.760 you would. I don't know what takes more faith than 1561 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.039 to believe that we're under a dome or to believe 1562 01:17:16.119 --> 01:17:22.319 that the universe is ever expanding and void and it's 1563 01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:25.039 just a vacuum. And I'm like, okay, so and we

1564 01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.960 may you know we obviously we we came from frogs then, 1565 01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:31.760 and you know, tadpoles that evolved into humans and the 1566 01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:33.840 whole evolution thing. I mean, you got to jump on 1567 01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:35.279 board with all that if you're going to be in 1568 01:17:35.359 --> 01:17:36.640 the space world. 1569 01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:39.680 You know, yeah, if you want to break your calculator, 1570 01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:43.279 even if you're a young earther, take the Milky Way 1571 01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:45.680 moving through space one point three million miles per hour 1572 01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:48.840 time sixty five hundred years, and see how much distance 1573 01:17:48.920 --> 01:17:49.560 we have traveled. 1574 01:17:50.279 --> 01:17:53.399 Yeah. Yeah, we're just starting through this. Yeah, we started 1575 01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:56.319 out as protozoa and somehow all these little cells decided 1576 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:58.000 they were going to make an eyeball on a brain 1577 01:17:58.039 --> 01:17:59.680 and we're going to put them all together and make 1578 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:04.880 about and yeah, it's yeah, that evolution thing is another 1579 01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:09.439 toll topic. Yeah, well, I know it's certain off I'd 1580 01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:13.439 mentioned that we did the whole homesteading thing early on. 1581 01:18:13.680 --> 01:18:14.960 I just wanted to give a shout out to a 1582 01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.000 couple of guys. We bet this was the Doug in 1583 01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:21.840 Stacy's Homesteaders conference down in Missouri. So me and my 1584 01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:24.359 wife and my brother who's not a flat earther yet 1585 01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:27.119 but he I'm guessing he will be his wife. We 1586 01:18:27.239 --> 01:18:30.680 all went down there, and I want to shout out 1587 01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:35.720 to Todd and Illinois and Toby and Michigan. Those two guys. 1588 01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:40.960 They saw my flatterirth shirt and I guess again, it's 1589 01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:43.520 like I sometimes I don't mind looking like the crazy guys, 1590 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:45.479 so I'll wear the FLATTERIR shirt out in public and 1591 01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:49.720 h see who see who bites and the people I usually. 1592 01:18:49.960 --> 01:18:53.199 We had really great conversation with Toby and Todd and 1593 01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.439 it was pretty awesome Dad, And then you just realize, 1594 01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:59.239 like you're not alone. There's a lot of us out 1595 01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:01.439 there and we're uh, you know, and a lot of 1596 01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:03.199 people are waking up, and I just thought a lot 1597 01:19:03.239 --> 01:19:06.600 of people don't have really any It's sad because you've 1598 01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:08.520 mentioned it before and a lot of your guests mentioned 1599 01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:12.359 it about people being alone and not having someone to 1600 01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:15.800 talk about and I just think that's so it's just 1601 01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:18.600 it's sad kind of it's really sad that we got 1602 01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:23.039 you know, that you would be a flat earther and 1603 01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:26.479 like the only outlet is like well like your podcast 1604 01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:32.079 for instance, or maybe online groups. But even then it's 1605 01:19:32.119 --> 01:19:34.319 like you got to be in a like you're kind 1606 01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:35.920 of in a vacuum at that point because you're just 1607 01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:39.239 like by yourself and for me to have my wife 1608 01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:42.880 and it's just a blessing that we can we're all 1609 01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:45.319 on the same page. And as soon as like someone 1610 01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:48.560 in the family mentioned something about oh there was one 1611 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:53.159 recently where they were talking about something happening politically or something, 1612 01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:55.680 and we were just like, you know, that's fake, right, 1613 01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:58.600 And everyone just kind of looks at us like you 1614 01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.159 two are mental, like something wrong with you too, And 1615 01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:03.359 it was like and we just have to look at 1616 01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:06.279 each other and go, they're not here yet, they're not where, 1617 01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:09.000 you know. But again that you know, you talked about 1618 01:20:09.039 --> 01:20:11.279 too with the red pill, and sometimes you get to 1619 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:14.920 a point where you gotta check out a little bit 1620 01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:19.039 and have your pastime or something, because if you're in 1621 01:20:19.159 --> 01:20:22.520 it all the time and you're just everything is you know, 1622 01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:25.079 doom and gloom in the world's out to get you, 1623 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:28.840 and it's like, yeah, okay, we got it. Sometimes, like 1624 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:31.199 you said, you could put that red pill back in 1625 01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:32.079 a box for a while. 1626 01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:36.600 But yeah, yeah, So it's really great that. 1627 01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:40.159 I mean, I'm so appreciative that you you've been continuing. 1628 01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:43.159 I'm so glad you came back after you're you know, 1629 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:47.159 calling the quits. I was like, oh, that's, uh, someone 1630 01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:50.199 better pick up this mantle or something, because it's so 1631 01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:53.720 hard to like not have a podcast every week or 1632 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:55.720 you know, or two or whatever. I mean, the Fact 1633 01:20:55.800 --> 01:20:59.760 Hunter is really great too, but to have people you 1634 01:20:59.880

--> 01:21:01.840 just know you're not alone, and you know, more and 1635 01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:03.039 more people are waking. 1636 01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:04.159 Up, and that's what everybody says. 1637 01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:07.079 Yeah, it's just awesome. It's I mean, it's God bless 1638 01:21:07.079 --> 01:21:09.920 you for that. It's like you're really bringing people together 1639 01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:13.720 and giving those people hope. And I you know, and honestly, 1640 01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:17.880 like you said early on about getting together and having meetups, 1641 01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:21.920 I think we just need to do that more. And 1642 01:21:22.079 --> 01:21:24.159 we got to find people that are local, that are 1643 01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:26.239 on the same page so we can all of them 1644 01:21:26.279 --> 01:21:26.720 to each other. 1645 01:21:27.479 --> 01:21:29.119 It's a whole new level when you can sit down 1646 01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:30.920 with people and break bread and have this conversation. 1647 01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:35.520 Yeah, group you start bringing things up, like just like 1648 01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:37.439 when I did with Todd and Tolby, where I was like, 1649 01:21:38.319 --> 01:21:41.039 we're chatting about things and it's like, well, where are 1650 01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:42.640 you at on this? Where are you at on this? 1651 01:21:42.840 --> 01:21:45.199 And that was something when I first met my wife 1652 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.159 on Facebook and we started talking on over the phone, 1653 01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:53.880 she was she mentioned something right away, she was like, well, 1654 01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:57.720 I'm kind of a conspiracy theorist, and right away I 1655 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:02.199 was like, yeah, tell me more. And sure enough we 1656 01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:05.960 were like, well, how far are you along this conspiracy path? 1657 01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:09.520 Like and you know, are you like to the reptilians? 1658 01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:13.319 Are you'd like to like? So it's almost like, you know, 1659 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:17.439 it's the JFK Like you've talked about the water cooler stuff, 1660 01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:22.159 you know that the moon landing and the JFK assassination, 1661 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:25.199 which are you know, kind of entry level things and 1662 01:22:25.239 --> 01:22:28.319 then you're like what about this? And what about that? 1663 01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:31.640 What you know? So that's always kind of fun to 1664 01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.000 like when I meet people and they're like, oh, yeah, 1665 01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.159 I'm a conspiracy and you're like, oh yeah, how far? 1666 01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:39.199 Like how far are you? Like you almost try to 1667 01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:40.680 out crazy each other I guess. 1668 01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:42.920 Yeah, it's like you got the water cooler stuff, the 1669 01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:45.119 JFK and then you have the like the nine to 1670 01:22:45.119 --> 01:22:49.199 eleven and you know, but then you know, the top 1671 01:22:49.239 --> 01:22:52.520 of the chain is, without a doubt, is flat Earth. 1672 01:22:53.319 --> 01:22:54.399 Yes, I agree with that. 1673 01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:57.960 Because once you realize that, everything just it's like going 1674 01:22:58.000 --> 01:22:59.079 from black and white to color. 1675 01:23:00.199 --> 01:23:03.800 Right, And you've mentioned for the greatest movie probably around 1676 01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:06.199 is you know they live where it's like you put 1677 01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:09.279 in those glasses and you just it's like everything snaps 1678 01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:12.840 into focus and you go, oh, that's why they lie 1679 01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:17.039 about everything, Like that's because they're trying to keep us 1680 01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:19.680 away from God. Because if everyone knew that there is 1681 01:23:19.720 --> 01:23:22.960 a dome above us and God is right literally above us, 1682 01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:26.960 you would have a different especially if you weren't a believer. 1683 01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:30.279 If you weren't, you would be like, well, someone had 1684 01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:33.199 to make this all Like I'm not flying through an 1685 01:23:33.399 --> 01:23:36.680 endless vacuum of space in a you know, a tiny marble, 1686 01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:40.760 so it would wake you up for sure. 1687 01:23:41.079 --> 01:23:47.319 Absolutely great stuff. Yeah, well we are just about it 1688 01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:49.800 out of time. It's on the break of eight o'clock. Man, 1689 01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:53.319 it's been a great conversation and I can't thank you enough. 1690 01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:56.600 For your time. And again we're kind of scoping out 1691 01:23:56.680 --> 01:23:58.600 something for October. It might be a little too early. 1692 01:23:58.640 --> 01:23:59.680 I don't know if we have to push it to 1693 01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:02.760 this ring. But man, we've had so many good conversations 1694 01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:07.319 with folks in both Milwaukee and in Minnesota, and I've 1695 01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:12.119 got a permaculture podcast I'm going on the end of 1696 01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.520 the month, and he's got a pretty big audience. You 1697 01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:17.159 know who I'd love to get a hold of brother 1698 01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:20.880 is Doug and Stacy, because Doug is there. He's awakened 1699 01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:23.479 just about everything. But I've never heard him mention the 1700 01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:24.319 shape of the Earth. 1701 01:24:25.239 --> 01:24:30.079 Yeah, it's interesting because the at the Homesteaders conference they 1702 01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:36.239 had doctor I cannot I didn't have his name down, 1703 01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:42.359 mccollin or something, doctor mccallachy, I'm thinking was that the 1704 01:24:42.399 -->

01:24:46.079 game David I think he was their guest speaker last 1705 01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:51.520 last April or whatever, and he came out and he 1706 01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:56.479 started talking about the angles of the you know, the 1707 01:24:56.600 --> 01:24:58.640 tilt of the Earth and how it was like, you know, 1708 01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.159 it's sixty six point six and he goes, that's a 1709 01:25:01.239 --> 01:25:04.960 weird number, and he just hinted at flat Earth where 1710 01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:09.000 he's it's like you and I kept like somewhere in 1711 01:25:09.039 --> 01:25:11.319 my flat earth shirt and he's talking about flat Earth. 1712 01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:14.720 And I kept looking at my brother like ha, like 1713 01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:17.199 get a load of this guy. And he was like, 1714 01:25:17.359 --> 01:25:19.359 my brother just got to getting angry about it, and 1715 01:25:19.479 --> 01:25:22.600 it was but I think he was on board too. 1716 01:25:22.840 --> 01:25:25.479 And I never got to confront him and talk to 1717 01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:28.039 him about flat Earth, but he really sounded like he 1718 01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:30.640 had all the right words to say about it. Good. 1719 01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:35.880 Well man, as always, thanks for your time, and I 1720 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:36.960 give you the final word. 1721 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:39.760 Well, I just want to say thanks again George for 1722 01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:43.520 like bringing me on and having this conversation. It's been 1723 01:25:44.119 --> 01:25:48.199 just a pleasure and God bless you and your family. 1724 01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:51.199 And I hope you continue doing this podcast for another 1725 01:25:51.279 --> 01:25:53.520 twenty years because I think you're waking a lot of 1726 01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:55.039 people up and you're doing a lot of good. 1727 01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.399 I appreciate that, brother very much. And for the shout out. 1728 01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:01.800 Shout out to Dennis really sent some great emails lately. 1729 01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:05.520 Shout out to Toby and Todd, and please say hello 1730 01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:08.600 to your wife and for us. And we appreciate you 1731 01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:10.560 brother for coming on and sharing your story. It's been 1732 01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:11.720 a great, great podcast. 1733 01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:14.560 Brother, Thank you, and God bless you. 1734 01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:16.760 God bless you. And to the audience thank you for 1735 01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:19.119 your continued support. If you'd like to join us like 1736 01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:21.800 Todd did today, please send us an email f e 1737 01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:25.720 files Guest at gmail dot com that will That link 1738 01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:28.880 will be in the show notes for Todd. I'm George, 1739 01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:31.479 God bless you. Keep your head on a swivel, in 1740 01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:33.880 Christ in your heart. And until we meet again, my friends, 1741 01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:35.000 we will see. 1742 01:26:34.880 --> 01:26:57.720 You win the chadow, sue the sky, and chu the 1743 01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:03.399 night to you secus my name, just to your promise. 1744 01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:09.479 Birds like fame, every bird and every fear fades. 1745 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:14.479 Away when you on me through the winds around your eyes. 1746 01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.000 Hope is lifting of my eyes. 1747 01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:22.279 Who I used to be. 1748 01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:27.520 Your alazing Grace's. 1749 01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:39.720 Rest mean higher than star. Last time Ma Shane has 1750 01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:50.399 lost its crane because you came, lift des ale to fear, 1751 01:27:51.520 --> 01:28:01.079 we all be. You will proclaim Jesus Christ for please 1752 01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:15.079 every valley, every climb you have walked with me. Time 1753 01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:16.079 when my. 1754 01:28:16.279 --> 01:28:21.399 Strength has reached it said you have always been my friend. 1755 01:28:22.119 --> 01:28:26.640 Now the tichness has to flee, for your truth has 1756 01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:27.680 set me free. 1757 01:28:28.479 --> 01:28:33.439 Every step and every breath towards me to eat son 1758 01:28:33.760 --> 01:29:27.000 or try say your reason, say you shine hell every nation, 1759 01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:33.800 every song will take ut yet sails and summer fills 1760 01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:34.479 the sky. 1761 01:29:36.039 --> 01:29:42.880 Jesus choice, so every great over prochas ple Chess Tree, 1762 01:29:46.279 --> 01:29:56.119 I Spear's. 1763 01:30:18.079 --> 01:30:20.399 You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. 1764 01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:25.399 Just the facts, ma'am m