Full Transcript for She Built a Dance Business…Then Revival Broke Out | w/ Michelle Brogan

and then you're sharing the gospel One that's like unheard of they might I'm not a dancer, but if you find me in a wedding 03:54.593 --> 03:55.334 [SPEAKER_05]: There's what you'll do. 03:55.394 --> 03:55.855 [SPEAKER_00]: I tear it up. 03:56.196 --> 04:00.663 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the one basically at my friends' weddings that are maybe mostly white loves them. 04:01.224 --> 04:02.306 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the one teaching the wobble. 04:02.667 --> 04:04.931 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the one like, I have, I'll learn to show you pictures out there. 04:04.951 --> 04:06.774 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm the one like, it's nothing. 04:07.034 --> 04:08.156 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the extent of my dancing. 04:08.216 --> 04:15.128 [SPEAKER_00]: And then when I was a kid, in my dad's church, we used to do like dances like Kirk Franklin and Mary and all those different stuff. 04:15.148 --> 04:17.051 [SPEAKER_00]: But, yep, yes, legends. 04:17.392 --> 04:20.297 [SPEAKER_00]: We have all these dancers come. 04:20.277 --> 04:27.389 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, they're competing, they're doing all these different things, and you're sharing the guy, I have to hear like how that all began. 04:27.730 --> 04:28.050 [SPEAKER_05]: Right. 04:28.210 --> 04:30.234 [SPEAKER_05]: It is something that is very unique. 04:30.254 --> 04:31.757 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not anything that I had growing up. 04:31.777 --> 04:34.882 [SPEAKER_05]: So as a dancer, I started dance when I was four years old and I was four. 04:35.102 --> 04:35.643 [SPEAKER_05]: I was four. 04:35.944 --> 04:36.444 [SPEAKER_05]: Not good. 04:36.464 --> 04:39.049 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was only child and my parents were like, what's her passions? 04:39.069 --> 04:40.311 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm only child too. 04:40.291 --> 04:41.634 [SPEAKER_05]: Come on. 04:41.654 --> 04:41.714 [SPEAKER_05]: Go. 04:42.235 --> 04:44.399 [SPEAKER_05]: So I was, you know, like I want to do dance. 04:44.419 --> 04:45.101 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to do karate. 04:45.121 --> 04:45.582 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to cook. 04:45.622 --> 04:46.303 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to do the flu. 04:46.323 --> 04:48.848 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to do a boat and they put me in everything. 04:48.869 --> 04:49.951 [SPEAKER_05]: Let me synchronize swimming. 04:49.971 --> 04:52.656 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought I was going to be in the Olympics until I hit that. 04:53.197 --> 04:55.181 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait, this is the thing I really love to do. 04:55.222 --> 04:55.322 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 04:55.382 --> 04:55.482 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 04:55.462 --> 04:57.505 [SPEAKER_05]: So with dance, it was something that was like a hobby. 04:57.545 --> 04:59.587 [SPEAKER_05]: My parents went to church, but it was like a separate thing. 04:59.647 --> 05:01.550 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like, here's your hobby and here's your church. 05:01.630 --> 05:03.332 [SPEAKER_05]: Now, there was never any integration of that. 05:03.372 --> 05:06.336 [SPEAKER_05]: And so as I got older, I started going into the professional world. 05:06.376 --> 05:07.918 [SPEAKER_05]: I known the new Star Searches out. 05:07.938 --> 05:09.980 [SPEAKER_05]: And I went to New York for Star Search. 05:10.000 --> 05:11.963 [SPEAKER_05]: And just became a professional dancer. 05:12.464 --> 05:15.968 [SPEAKER_05]: And what happened was I went to a really dark period of time 05:15.948 --> 05:18.773 [SPEAKER_05]: went through a major meltdown mentally. 05:19.134 --> 05:26.748 [SPEAKER_05]: And when I came out of that season, I felt like the Lord was like refreshing everything about what I wanted to do and he wanted to teach me what true worship was. 05:27.309 --> 05:28.751 [SPEAKER_05]: So I had the dance here. 05:28.771 --> 05:29.473 [SPEAKER_05]: I loved Jesus. 05:29.513 --> 05:30.655 [SPEAKER_05]: I was rededicated my life. 05:30.675 --> 05:33.320 [SPEAKER_05]: I wanted to make an impact and he was like, you can't do two separate things. 05:33.360 --> 05:35.644 [SPEAKER_05]: If you can't do it together with me, it's an idol. 05:35.624 --> 05:42.585 [SPEAKER_05]: So with that, it was like, oh, if you have a gift, if you can't integrate it and make that a part of worship, it's an idol. 05:42.645 --> 05:45.132 [SPEAKER_05]: So I knew I wanted my dance to not be an idol in my life. 05:45.152 --> 05:47.018 [SPEAKER_05]: So we integrated together. 05:47.251 --> 05:50.336 [SPEAKER_05]: And really, I think he just took me back to what I did. 05:50.356 --> 05:51.517 [SPEAKER_05]: I went to these dance conventions. 05:51.558 --> 05:54.742 [SPEAKER_05]: I went to these places in spaces where they booked out entire ballrooms. 05:55.183 --> 05:57.186 [SPEAKER_05]: And for three days, we danced our heart out. 05:57.226 --> 05:58.929 [SPEAKER_05]: I met new friends and credible teachers. 05:58.969 --> 06:00.631 [SPEAKER_05]: I were like, really popular in the industry. 06:00.651 --> 06:03.656 [SPEAKER_05]: And I would leave like this great time, but empty. 06:03.796 --> 06:05.118 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like, OK, that was really fun. 06:05.138 --> 06:06.300 [SPEAKER_05]: But nothing changed within me. 06:06.961 --> 06:09.224 [SPEAKER_05]: And so I really threw a series of events. 06:09.384 --> 06:13.731 [SPEAKER_05]: I had to let go of my job, Lord, ask me to fulfill all my contracts and commitments, because don't. 06:13.711 --> 06:14.633 [SPEAKER_05]: not do that. 06:14.773 --> 06:14.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 06:14.974 --> 06:16.597 [SPEAKER_05]: When God calls you, you say yes. 06:16.617 --> 06:23.792 [SPEAKER_05]: You fulfill your contracts and you commitments and then I sat in his presence for about six months doing nothing, newly married and I just wanted to make an impact. 06:23.852 --> 06:24.293 [SPEAKER_05]: That was it. 06:24.353 --> 06:25.375 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't want to make a brand. 06:25.416 --> 06:26.217 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't even know about that. 06:26.257 --> 06:28.963 [SPEAKER_05]: We didn't have any of YouTube or anything back that. 06:28.983 --> 06:29.965 [SPEAKER_05]: That's how old I am. 06:29.945 -->

06:34.089 [SPEAKER_05]: So we sat there, it me and Jesus, and he started going, I'm going to use you. 06:34.149 --> 06:37.312 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to take everything that you've done, and we're going to make it for my glory. 06:37.372 --> 06:45.581 [SPEAKER_05]: So I remember it's too long of a story to tell on here, but being in a service where I just was at the end of like, God, I really want you to use me on something. 06:45.601 --> 06:47.002 [SPEAKER_05]: And so I remember there was a pre-chip there. 06:47.022 --> 06:49.124 [SPEAKER_05]: He was like, there's people in here that want to make an impact. 06:49.144 --> 06:52.227 [SPEAKER_05]: He asked us to put stuff in a Tupperware bowl that has been holding us back. 06:52.267 --> 06:53.328 [SPEAKER_05]: We put our stuff in a Tupperware. 06:53.348 --> 06:54.990 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought that was so strange. 06:54.970 --> 06:57.895 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, God, I know you're prophetic in this moment. 06:58.255 --> 07:03.884 [SPEAKER_05]: And if there was about 3,500 people in that room, and he pulled out my top work, because I remember I was like, God, if this is you, this is crazy. 07:04.285 --> 07:07.510 [SPEAKER_05]: But I know that I've been praying for you to use me, and he pulled out this top work. 07:07.570 --> 07:11.657 [SPEAKER_05]: And in that moment, God really started putting this vision on my heart. 07:12.098 --> 07:16.104 [SPEAKER_05]: Gave up my diamond earrings, I had on my ears, because we had no money at the time, because I'd let everything go. 07:16.144 --> 07:19.710 [SPEAKER_05]: Put them in an offering envelope, send them off, because God said, take those off, give those to me. 07:19.970 --> 07:22.294 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought that was a crazy thing I ever heard. 07:22.274 --> 07:27.741 [SPEAKER_05]: And that morning, at 4 o'clock in the morning, I still have the notebook where God began to speak to me a vision called dance revolution. 07:27.781 --> 07:29.664 [SPEAKER_05]: Nothing I'd heard of, nothing I had seen. 07:29.784 --> 07:31.987 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't have anybody to go to and be like, hey, there's this convention. 07:32.007 --> 07:33.369 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to dedicate it to Jesus. 07:33.569 --> 07:34.670 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to have altar calls. 07:34.690 --> 07:35.732 [SPEAKER_05]: We're going to see people get saved. 07:35.752 --> 07:37.594 [SPEAKER_05]: He was delivered at a dance convention. 07:38.115 --> 07:41.139 [SPEAKER_05]: And the people that I did tell about it was like, that's not possible. 07:41.219 --> 07:45.565 [SPEAKER_05]: Like there's no notion of what I'm doing that because it's not possible plus who do you know that's a Christian dancer. 07:45.585 --> 07:47.387 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, great question. 07:47.367 --> 07:52.434 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's when computers were as big as this table and I typed in Christian Dance.com. 07:52.914 --> 07:55.938 [SPEAKER_05]: And this one guy pulled up on this really janky website. 07:56.759 --> 07:57.861 [SPEAKER_05]: And I thought I've got to call him. 07:58.261 --> 08:01.205 [SPEAKER_05]: And I went to my husband that next day and I told him because he knew I'd been waiting on the Lord. 08:01.606 --> 08:03.548 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm asking God to do something major. 08:03.668 --> 08:04.890 [SPEAKER_05]: And he gave me a vision. 08:04.950 --> 08:05.971 [SPEAKER_05]: And my husband's so amazing. 08:06.312 --> 08:07.794 [SPEAKER_05]: He was a golfer at the time at the PGA. 08:07.834 --> 08:09.416 [SPEAKER_05]: And he looked at me and he said do it. 08:09.816 --> 08:11.839 [SPEAKER_05]: Whatever he puts on your heart, you've been praying to do it. 08:11.819 --> 08:16.284 [SPEAKER_05]: So I got this vision for this two and a half day convention that you bring in teacher. 08:16.345 --> 08:22.292 [SPEAKER_05]: You rent out over 60,000 square feet of ballroom space for two and a half days and you dance. 08:22.312 --> 08:24.595 [SPEAKER_05]: But when you're dancing, that there had to be something different. 08:24.615 --> 08:26.597 [SPEAKER_05]: Because there's over 300 conventions out there right now. 08:26.737 --> 08:29.841 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean with every popular movie star person you know. 08:29.861 --> 08:34.587 [SPEAKER_05]: And but he said everything you're going to do is going to revolve around me. 08:34.567 --> 08:35.628 [SPEAKER_05]: So I was like, what does that look like? 08:35.648 --> 08:37.551 [SPEAKER_05]: So pray before classes, pray after classes. 08:37.571 --> 08:45.522 [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to prophesy if you feel led prophesy in classes, you're going to dedicate everything you do to me, you're going to bring people in that have had time with me and testimony with me. 08:45.843 --> 08:46.904 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like professionals. 08:46.964 --> 08:49.087 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, I don't know professional dance. 08:49.107 --> 08:50.209 [SPEAKER_05]: So he said, say yes. 08:50.789 --> 08:52.011 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm going to take care of the rest. 08:52.171 --> 08:53.393 [SPEAKER_05]: Just start saying yes. 08:53.834 --> 08:53.914 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow. 08:53.934 --> 08:57.739 [SPEAKER_05]: So this vision came to life of these two and a half day events where 08:57.719 --> 09:20.841 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, at first I saw thousands and thousands of kids in my mind and teenagers and young adults and and for God that there was a process, you know, to do what we did because our first locations had to be canceled because of 911, but at the time you're in these rooms dancing, but we stop on Sunday morning, see so you're going to have church on Sunday mornings and I was like church in a hotel like that's when God had even revealed to me church was about a building was about the people. 09:20.821 --> 09:22.123 [SPEAKER_05]: What's a church service going to look like? 09:22.143 --> 09:23.004 [SPEAKER_05]: Who's going to be the preacher? 09:23.264 --> 09:23.825 [SPEAKER_05]: What are we going to do? 09:23.845 --> 09:24.947 [SPEAKER_05]:

We're going to bring a worship band. 09:25.007 --> 09:30.094 [SPEAKER_05]: And so it took a little bit of time about three years for me to finally go, oh, oh, you want, you want me to preach. 09:30.354 --> 09:33.739 [SPEAKER_05]: You want the people here that actually play instruments to be this. 09:33.799 --> 09:41.109 [SPEAKER_05]: And so we started this convention where I don't know if I've ever seen what I've seen it's this image and we serve in the local church. 09:41.149 --> 09:42.150 [SPEAKER_05]: We love the local church. 09:42.170 --> 09:44.213 [SPEAKER_05]: We believe in the covering of the local church. 09:44.193 --> 10:04.459 [SPEAKER_05]: but to go out and do ministry outside the walls of the church and something that I didn't know was possible while you're teaching dance and we have incredible teachers that have been with Britney Spears in Vegas and they've done movies and they've done the Oscars but they have walked away because they wanted to just carry their cross and follow Jesus with the profession that they have to be able to talk to these young adults. 10:04.899 --> 10:13.390 [SPEAKER_05]: So on Sunday mornings we started doing church and start putting on these productions and I would get up and do like a 20 minute message and I was like, 10:13.370 --> 10:14.171 [SPEAKER_05]: whatever it is. 10:14.431 --> 10:18.455 [SPEAKER_05]: And I remember my first one I did was my third year of DR, and the whole room came forward. 10:19.055 --> 10:26.082 [SPEAKER_05]: And I thought to myself, and those were our smaller crowd days, but I was like, everybody came forward, Lord, like, this is what you want this to be. 10:26.102 --> 10:33.609 [SPEAKER_05]: You want this to be a thing where people are going to get safe, set free delivered and not just on the Sunday morning, because it was happening in class, we started bringing baptisms. 10:34.070 --> 10:35.231 [SPEAKER_05]: I think it's been four years ago. 10:35.271 --> 10:35.792 [SPEAKER_05]: I looked at my husband. 10:35.812 --> 10:37.633 [SPEAKER_05]: I said, I think we're going to baptize people on the road. 10:38.034 --> 10:38.935 [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, what are we going to bring? 10:38.955 --> 10:41.537 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, I found a jacuzzi on Amazon. 10:41.517 --> 11:00.167 [SPEAKER_05]: And we had to sign our life away for it and these hotels where they're like if this pops you will owe us a hundred thousand dollars and my husband and I signed the paper because we're like if people are going to get saved and baptize we're going to sign away so we started baptismals not too long ago and I was like our people going to do this in in a dance convention. 11:00.147 --> 11:16.129 [SPEAKER_05]: you know, and I started watching with their full clothes on with their dance shoes, their hats running to the water and getting in where we're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we have clothes for you know, they're they're getting in the water after a dance class because they're feeling the presence of God, they're feeling seeing their learning how to take that gift. 11:16.189 --> 11:16.930 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not an idol. 11:16.990 --> 11:17.911 [SPEAKER_05]: It's coupled with God. 11:17.951 --> 11:18.893 [SPEAKER_05]: We're doing it together. 11:19.013 --> 11:20.094 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a form of worship. 11:20.695 --> 11:29.327 [SPEAKER_05]: I've seen people healed in the most radical ways ever, but it's not like we're calling it a healing service or it's like 11:29.307 --> 11:36.341 [SPEAKER_05]: The vehicle of the performing arts, putting him at the center of it all, and he shows up and we're just walking away. 11:36.441 --> 11:38.605 [SPEAKER_05]: Like I don't stop crying when I leave those weekends. 11:38.625 --> 11:49.527 [SPEAKER_05]: Some like, yeah, did a dad and a grandpa just got in the baptism altogether because they were there to watch their kid dance in their full clothes with their arms just tatted up and like got in the baptism on. 11:49.743 --> 11:50.725 [SPEAKER_05]: at a dance convention. 11:51.065 --> 11:53.970 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's what's happening in our world at dance rev. 11:53.990 --> 11:55.553 [SPEAKER_05]: And so many things have flowed from that. 11:55.593 --> 11:57.596 [SPEAKER_05]: We have a competition in an internship and other things. 11:57.657 --> 12:07.313 [SPEAKER_05]: But I get excited when I know that that's what's happening on the road with people that he's just using the gift of dance to make his name famous. 12:07.850 --> 12:12.875 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we finish today's episode with Michelle, we are here at Trinity Church. 12:12.895 --> 12:16.638 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have the now-or-never encounter that she is doing May 9th. 12:16.998 --> 12:18.019 [SPEAKER_00]: Faith Thoughts was a part of it. 12:18.099 --> 12:18.980 [SPEAKER_00]: You got to tell us more about it. 12:19.340 --> 12:20.782 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, my goodness, you need to get in the room. 12:20.802 --> 12:23.024 [SPEAKER_05]: It's our fourth annual now-or-never encounter. 12:23.044 --> 12:24.105 [SPEAKER_05]: It's totally free. 12:24.125 --> 12:25.726 [SPEAKER_05]: We're looking for you to be in the room. 12:25.746 --> 12:26.747 [SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be immersive. 12:27.107 --> 12:29.930 [SPEAKER_05]: You unique visual, something you've been waiting for. 12:30.310 --> 12:32.452 [SPEAKER_05]: So go to noworneverencounter.com. 12:32.472 --> 12:33.493 [SPEAKER_05]: Reserve that ticket. 12:33.613 --> 12:35.595 [SPEAKER_05]: And I can't wait to meet you on May 9th. 12:35.575 --> 12:36.376 [SPEAKER_05]: And who's all coming? 12:36.396 --> 12:39.040 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there's so many worship leaders, speakers. 12:39.120 --> 12:41.003 [SPEAKER_05]: There's so many, and all Jesus is going to be in the same place. 12:41.023 --> 12:41.884 [SPEAKER_00]: Jesus is going to be in the same place. 12:41.904 --> 12:42.505 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the first step for now. 12:42.525 --> 12:45.369 [SPEAKER_05]: But John, while

it's going to be here, allow Philips, you're going to be here. 12:45.449 --> 12:46.190 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to be here. 12:46.290 --> 12:51.257 [SPEAKER_05]: John, from Church of 1132, my favorite, the minions, the minions are going to be in the room. 12:51.758 --> 12:53.400 [SPEAKER_05]: But most of all, Holy Spirit's going to be here. 12:53.420 --> 12:54.722 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to move in a mighty way. 12:55.003 --> 12:55.303 [SPEAKER_00]: Amen. 12:55.644 --> 12:56.625 [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure to get your tickets. 12:56.645 --> 12:57.666 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll put the link below. 12:57.686 --> 12:58.888 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be there. 12:58.928 --> 13:01.011 [SPEAKER_00]: My boy, Tahedley, will be there with the meetup. 13:01.392 --> 13:03.034 [SPEAKER_00]: We will see you May 9th. 13:03.014 --> 13:27.165 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, okay, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right 13:27.922 --> 13:33.172 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, that was that new phrase of like, that wasn't on my bingo card for the year. 13:33.793 --> 13:34.996 [SPEAKER_00]: That was my bingo card. 13:35.016 --> 13:35.837 [SPEAKER_00]: That was my bingo card. 13:35.857 --> 13:40.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and you know, it says he used to spirit without limit. 13:40.747 --> 13:50.385 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there is, there is no limit to the spirit of where he wants to move, how he wants to move. 13:50.669 --> 13:58.157 [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny, I just watched the podcast with Tim Ross, and he talked about, he invited his neighbors to church they weren't saved. 13:58.857 --> 14:00.379 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was at Potter's house at the time. 14:00.419 --> 14:06.385 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, you know, people running, you know, all the stuff, and he's feeling embarrassed. 14:06.405 --> 14:12.452 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, man, like, we're gonna look, and the Holy Spirit literally told him, if you're embarrassed of me, I can leave. 14:13.232 --> 14:13.633 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. 14:13.893 --> 14:17.757 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh my, like, you have, 14:18.665 --> 14:22.350 [SPEAKER_00]: We truly are, we limit the Holy Spirit. 14:22.810 --> 14:23.191 [SPEAKER_05]: 100%. 14:23.471 --> 14:29.658 [SPEAKER_00]: We put a box, or I've been reading a lot where it's about like, do not grieve the Holy Spirit. 14:29.679 --> 14:33.123 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, how can you grieve the Holy Spirit? 14:33.183 --> 14:33.984 [SPEAKER_00]: You tell them what to do. 14:35.065 --> 14:35.486 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 14:35.506 --> 14:37.048 [SPEAKER_00]: And you tell them what he can and can. 14:37.648 --> 14:39.891 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just love that you said something. 14:39.911 --> 14:40.752 [SPEAKER_00]: We gotta go back to that. 14:41.433 --> 14:44.757 [SPEAKER_00]: You said, if you separate, 14:46.576 --> 14:49.741 [SPEAKER_00]: what you do and the Lord, you create an idol. 14:50.002 --> 14:54.289 [SPEAKER_05]: If you can't put that together as your form of worship, like that's your worship, that's a gift he gave you. 14:54.569 --> 14:57.053 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we have gifts of the Spirit, we have fruit of the Spirit that it gave you gifts. 14:57.093 --> 15:00.659 [SPEAKER_05]: If you cannot put that together and couple that with what he's called, did you do? 15:00.719 --> 15:03.644 [SPEAKER_05]: And then you see fruit from that, you see the things we're saying salvation. 15:03.964 --> 15:07.009 [SPEAKER_05]: Deliver us this, unity, all these things, then it's an idol. 15:07.190 --> 15:09.293 [SPEAKER_05]: What are you doing with that if you can? 15:09.661 --> 15:12.344 [SPEAKER_05]: that something he gave you to build the kingdom with. 15:12.944 --> 15:15.266 [SPEAKER_05]: So I think we sometimes, because that's what I was taught. 15:15.466 --> 15:18.589 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I went to a school that told my mom, if she dances, you can't go here. 15:19.110 --> 15:22.633 [SPEAKER_05]: Because that's when dance was like, there was an dance, it was, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 15:22.653 --> 15:23.294 [SPEAKER_05]: There was none of that. 15:23.334 --> 15:25.736 [SPEAKER_05]: And so I've been, you know, you talk about being embarrassed. 15:25.756 --> 15:34.344 [SPEAKER_05]: So things that God asked me to do at a dance event, the things that are so out of the box when I came from the professional world and you know, you're just like, you don't do that here in the slack I've gotten. 15:34.725 --> 15:38.368 [SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes you're gonna have to see, you know, because I've had that conversation in my head too. 15:38.348 --> 15:42.232 [SPEAKER_05]: where I feel the Lord doing something to remember like he wants us to do what. 15:42.252 --> 15:43.594 [SPEAKER_05]: Like you want us to do. 15:43.634 --> 15:43.954 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 15:44.114 --> 15:47.278 [SPEAKER_05]: Like this year we had this this red cloth I bought a hobby lobbying. 15:47.298 --> 15:50.201 [SPEAKER_05]: I talked about the one with the issue of blood at a dance convention. 15:50.581 --> 15:56.748 [SPEAKER_05]: I have the pictures to show you the people, the dads, the children laying on the cloth that I have testimonies in my phone. 15:56.848 --> 15:59.551 [SPEAKER_05]: Never my grand again can eat food

they weren't able to eat before. 15:59.571 --> 16:00.552 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just disappeared. 16:01.132 --> 16:03.715 [SPEAKER_05]: This isn't the middle of like a break on a dance class. 16:03.695 --> 16:04.376 [SPEAKER_00]: My god. 16:04.396 --> 16:19.480 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm like, God, you want me to put a red cloth down and tell them to do what he's like, what did I ask people to do march around him seven times dip in the Jordan and seven that was not normal after the fourth or fifth time they're going to go this isn't why why can't you just do it like that. 16:19.881 --> 16:22.345 [SPEAKER_05]: But our faith is what activates is when I watch those. 16:22.325 --> 16:26.811 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I got seven year olds and I got 80 and not 80, but I've got leaders I'm teaching to there. 16:27.152 --> 16:30.136 [SPEAKER_05]: They're all there's no age gap there when he shows up. 16:30.316 --> 16:34.021 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because what grabbed him was what they love their passion for dance. 16:34.041 --> 16:37.065 [SPEAKER_05]: And then we get activated in the room as it's incredible. 16:37.446 --> 16:49.142 [SPEAKER_00]: My gosh. 16:49.662 --> 16:56.310 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, take whatever industry you're in, and I know several of, you know, people that, you know, like, man, that works. 16:56.610 --> 16:59.473 [SPEAKER_00]: That works for you, but I can't do what you're doing. 17:00.374 --> 17:05.881 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, are you sure, you know, like, have you asked, you know, have you asked a question. 17:06.562 --> 17:16.513 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do think if we were like, if we're being honest, I think what gets in the way is our ego. 17:16.966 --> 17:19.469 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like God's reputation. 17:19.990 --> 17:21.071 [SPEAKER_00]: God's reputation is great. 17:21.252 --> 17:23.495 [SPEAKER_00]: He's never his reputation on the line. 17:23.515 --> 17:24.376 [SPEAKER_00]: It's our reputation. 17:24.796 --> 17:37.573 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like they're going to think I'm crazy that I'm never going to call back, you know, all these different things. 17:38.448 --> 17:45.682 [SPEAKER_00]: I think God, I think the Lord's inviting us to like, hey, this is available if you want it. 17:45.702 --> 17:58.566 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to see me move, okay, so give me a practicalness to it too, because clearly, and honestly, this is not in my nose, but I like this, because someone can hear this, all right, I'm gonna do that. 17:59.508 --> 18:02.450 [SPEAKER_00]: You still have to have excellence in what you're doing. 18:02.791 --> 18:11.358 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you have a terrible dance convention and you're preaching the gospel, you're like, I don't think people will want you to show up. 18:11.598 --> 18:16.943 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's hard to validate what you're preaching if there's not excellence. 18:16.963 --> 18:23.748 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe talk about like, okay, if someone wants to do that, and they're like, man, I'm in this field, like what's my first step? 18:23.768 --> 18:29.413 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what would you encourage them of like how they can bridge that gap? 18:30.136 --> 18:41.072 [SPEAKER_05]: So for me with dance, you know, that's one thing that was is still a big message for me is how are you supposed to catch the world I when it's not excellent because they're producing excellence all the time. 18:41.092 --> 18:41.293 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 18:41.313 --> 18:44.798 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, everything, you know, there's things I'm like, we need to get that into that space. 18:44.838 --> 18:48.904 [SPEAKER_05]: We can't just be vacating because people like dance is weird or this is like, like, occupy. 18:48.884 --> 19:04.099 [SPEAKER_05]: The lamb, but if you're going to occupy it, excellence is where I had to really not try and one up me on what I was doing, but knowing the creator of the universe was going to give me fresh ideas, keep me fresh even the older I get where I'm like, we just did a convention and I hear it all the time. 19:04.139 --> 19:05.322 [SPEAKER_05]: This thing is getting better and better. 19:05.582 --> 19:06.404 [SPEAKER_05]: It has nothing to do with me. 19:06.444 --> 19:08.108 [SPEAKER_05]: It just has to do with me listening in. 19:08.088 --> 19:09.812 [SPEAKER_05]: me going Lord, what are you saying? 19:09.872 --> 19:11.877 [SPEAKER_05]: Not getting all caught up on what I see online. 19:11.937 --> 19:13.300 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't go on other people's websites. 19:13.340 --> 19:14.021 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't try that. 19:14.322 --> 19:17.790 [SPEAKER_05]: But I try and bring excellence, a couple of passion. 19:18.251 --> 19:22.059 [SPEAKER_05]: I think in the Christian sphere, we think passion is going to take us there. 19:22.099 --> 19:25.928 [SPEAKER_05]: And passion will take you places, but excellence will bring 19:25.908 --> 19:28.532 [SPEAKER_05]: in the world that bring in people. 19:28.552 --> 19:31.878 [SPEAKER_05]: And so I think for me that was always where I go on creative sabbaticals. 19:32.318 --> 19:35.964 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't just like think, I'm going to go back in because I've done this for 25 years. 19:36.024 --> 19:37.106 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll be doing this 35 years. 19:37.186 --> 19:40.511 [SPEAKER_05]: I'll still go on a creative sabbatical, Jesus, and say, show me X to Z. 19:40.572 --> 19:41.393 [SPEAKER_05]: What do people feel? 19:41.433 --> 19:43.056 [SPEAKER_05]: What's the atmosphere, the structure? 19:43.076 --> 19:43.897 [SPEAKER_05]: What's the order? 19:44.157 --> 19:46.201 [SPEAKER_05]: What's the relationship and what's the result? 19:46.261 --> 19:48.304 [SPEAKER_05]: Because after this morning rest, 19:48.284 --> 19:53.992 [SPEAKER_05]: You're like, you know, the creation is really interesting to show people how to have a pattern for really great ministry. 19:54.012 --> 19:54.913 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's a illumination. 19:54.933 --> 19:56.015 [SPEAKER_05]: You have a vision for something. 19:56.395 -->

20:00.661 [SPEAKER_05]: Then comes the sun in the sky gives it structure, gives it seasons gives it order. 20:00.982 --> 20:07.030 [SPEAKER_05]: And so for me, that's how I had to really look at this because I do really, it's a passion of mine. 20:07.050 --> 20:08.873 [SPEAKER_05]: We just did a competition two weeks ago. 20:08.893 --> 20:14.140 [SPEAKER_05]: And one of the biggest notes I have for Christian studios or Christian dance teams is you got to be competent. 20:14.744 --> 20:25.535 [SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of you are charging, so if you're going to be competent, and want to be compensated, you're going to be competent, so I, you know, I, I can't believe I do what I do and own the things that I own. 20:25.575 --> 20:38.389 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I had a one point great, one point four grade point average in school, there was no listening, there was no learning, but when God got a hold of me got a hold of my heart, I started learning, you know, first by the Holy Spirit, but then I had to start watching not to compare. 20:38.369 --> 20:58.656 [SPEAKER_05]: not to cookie cut, not to be an imitation of something, but to say this is what's out there and then know that what I produced, I really feel as excellent because I feel like I watch the Lord be the center of it all and something you said to that is just real, real important is ego's got to be checked at the door when it comes to anything you do that you're starting with God because when you're 20:58.636 --> 21:06.111 [SPEAKER_05]: ego gets in play and you have a good product or people start coming year after year, or you get sold out, your ego will want to rise up. 21:06.432 --> 21:06.732 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 21:06.812 --> 21:08.015 [SPEAKER_05]: ego has to be put to death. 21:08.035 --> 21:08.596 [SPEAKER_05]: You know that. 21:08.636 --> 21:09.778 [SPEAKER_05]: Nothing to do with you. 21:09.858 --> 21:11.562 [SPEAKER_05]: And it was just a, your obedience. 21:11.742 --> 21:16.732 [SPEAKER_05]: And you took that thing and you went with him in it and we coupled together and it's not an idol is the form of worship. 21:17.073 --> 21:18.636 [SPEAKER_05]: How can you have an ego about worship? 21:18.616 --> 21:21.659 [SPEAKER_00]: So you just have to be careful. 21:21.680 --> 21:23.281 [SPEAKER_00]: Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. 21:23.301 --> 21:25.564 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not gonna be, you're gonna go fast on that. 21:25.624 --> 21:44.826 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 21:44.806 --> 21:54.149 [SPEAKER_05]: in this ministry ego will trump all the things that are happening with the healings with the delivers because you get your ego in the way and you're like, well this, so this might look weird or what if this is wrong or whatever. 21:54.570 --> 21:59.382 [SPEAKER_05]: So for me, what I'm doing is borshipping the king with an avenue he's given with the gift he's given. 21:59.763 --> 22:00.064 [SPEAKER_05]: So if 22:00.044 --> 22:00.945 [SPEAKER_05]: ego is there. 22:01.186 --> 22:08.296 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, how you can't couple those things Jesus called it out and the disciples when they would start having a little bit of ego who's going to be last? 22:08.316 --> 22:09.037 [SPEAKER_05]: Who's going to be first? 22:09.117 --> 22:09.698 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah. 22:09.738 --> 22:10.980 [SPEAKER_05]: Like you're going to the back. 22:11.841 --> 22:15.747 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's an ego thing we have to be careful because we want to know are you going to use us? 22:16.327 --> 22:17.129 [SPEAKER_05]: How's this going to look? 22:17.169 --> 22:17.950 [SPEAKER_05]: How's this going to be? 22:18.250 --> 22:22.997 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's one thing that you know sent me to the hospital you know 15 years ago because I was striving 22:22.977 --> 22:26.902 [SPEAKER_05]: striving, performing, excellence is up to me. 22:27.222 --> 22:28.424 [SPEAKER_05]: And God was like, you're my daughter. 22:28.764 --> 22:30.927 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you're not in charge of this. 22:30.967 --> 22:32.268 [SPEAKER_05]: You've got to still submit to me. 22:32.749 --> 22:33.890 [SPEAKER_05]: We're working together. 22:33.930 --> 22:37.154 [SPEAKER_05]: Like it's father and daughter work in this thing. 22:37.214 --> 22:43.923 [SPEAKER_05]: So you can let go of all that striving because I was producing in me burnout, anxiety attacks, constantly not sleeping. 22:44.383 --> 22:45.144 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's ego. 22:46.025 --> 22:46.506 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God. 22:46.526 --> 22:47.928 [SPEAKER_05]: That stems from fear and ego. 22:49.149 --> 22:52.393 [SPEAKER_00]: Listen, we are, we are, we use so in the spirit. 22:53.150 --> 22:57.114 [SPEAKER_00]: What guys been shown me was literally yesterday, obviously, like not when this comes out. 22:57.475 --> 23:04.423 [SPEAKER_00]: But yesterday, I taught in our faithfuls on network, shout out to the faithfuls on network, members, which is so amazing. 23:04.723 --> 23:05.984 [SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome. 23:06.124 --> 23:07.586 [SPEAKER_00]: It's my favorite thing I do. 23:07.646 --> 23:18.398 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we're doing twice a week calls, pouring in and then we're bringing some of the best to speak of people who are, you know, built something to a figure business in a biblical way. 23:18.378 --> 23:22.321 [SPEAKER_00]: We will be charging more, but like I should be charging more for it, but no, I love it. 23:22.381 --> 23:36.353 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the joy of my life But Tuesdays we do our Bible study in the morning and I shared yesterday Hunter Swain has been on the show great great man of God He he spoke a word to me. 23:36.373 --> 23:37.094 [SPEAKER_00]: He said

man. 23:37.114 --> 23:40.397 [SPEAKER_00]: I think and honestly like I This first part of the year. 23:40.497 --> 23:41.037 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a cute bro. 23:41.237 --> 23:43.459 [SPEAKER_00]: It was it was like warfare or central. 23:43.900 --> 23:47.963 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like what is going on like this is why oh and like I 23:48.112 --> 23:55.322 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a planner, so I'm going to shit, and I'm like, all right, we're going to do this and that and that and boom and that was like, no, closed door. 23:55.462 --> 23:57.365 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was just like, all this pressure. 23:57.385 --> 23:58.726 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what is going on? 23:59.608 --> 24:03.092 [SPEAKER_00]: And to the point, I was like, I don't know what you want me to do. 24:03.593 --> 24:07.038 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm, what do you want us to do? 24:07.618 --> 24:08.460 [SPEAKER_00]: How do we keep this going? 24:09.040 --> 24:15.469 [SPEAKER_00]: And my friend Hunter was like, I think your strategy is in second Kings 4. 24:15.601 --> 24:19.606 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I read it and obviously it's of the widow and the oil. 24:20.507 --> 24:24.691 [SPEAKER_00]: And she had a debt, her husband had died, left a debt to them. 24:25.272 --> 24:28.696 [SPEAKER_00]: Which is so wild back then that like to settle debts, they took your children. 24:28.716 --> 24:30.598 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I say, it's like this is wild. 24:31.039 --> 24:33.802 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's way different than a, you know, credit card. 24:33.822 --> 24:36.445 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, take your home and say, no, it would take your kids, right. 24:36.825 --> 24:42.672 [SPEAKER_00]: But as she didn't know what to do, it's so last she was like, hey, go get jars. 24:42.820 --> 24:52.012 [SPEAKER_00]: knock on your neighbor's door and get as many jars as you can, and fill with the oil that you have, and they did that, and anytime they got a jar, the oil flowed. 24:52.833 --> 24:55.317 [SPEAKER_00]: The moment it stopped flowing is when they didn't have any more jars. 24:56.338 --> 24:59.963 [SPEAKER_00]: And, and then he was like, go sell that oil right, and then pay back to that. 25:00.684 --> 25:03.968 [SPEAKER_00]: And I felt the Holy Spirit told me, and for faith I was like, 25:04.083 --> 25:10.830 [SPEAKER_00]: our strategy this year and honestly, for the foreseeable future, my job is just to bring jars. 25:11.991 --> 25:13.753 [SPEAKER_00]: That's my only job. 25:13.773 --> 25:17.297 [SPEAKER_00]: jars and scripture represents humanity and frailty. 25:18.118 --> 25:24.445 [SPEAKER_00]: I like, you know what, like second Corinthians 4 talks about, he's hidden these treasures and jars of clay. 25:24.525 --> 25:26.707 [SPEAKER_00]: So he can show his immense power. 25:26.747 --> 25:31.272 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like, God is just wanting you to your point of like, 25:33.057 --> 25:59.149 [SPEAKER_00]: Excellent is it's so necessary in the competition, so necessary, but like you said there is another extreme where it gets to have like perfectionism, where it's not really excellence is like, okay, I have to control everything everything's got and so you put all that pressure and is like, well, like, you bring what you can bring your best and you, you are my pastor calls it you have to make a margin for miracles, so you have to. 25:59.551 --> 26:02.714 [SPEAKER_00]: you have to give him something to fill, right? 26:02.734 --> 26:05.337 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's when the oil can come in when you bring yourself. 26:05.357 --> 26:06.338 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're just jars. 26:06.858 --> 26:07.499 [SPEAKER_00]: That's all we're doing. 26:07.519 --> 26:08.260 [SPEAKER_00]: And he wants. 26:08.280 --> 26:09.941 [SPEAKER_00]: And he wants, bring it empty. 26:10.181 --> 26:12.584 [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's to fill with anything else and you've got no room for oil. 26:12.904 --> 26:21.272 [SPEAKER_00]: But like, just bring like even a John II of like, when he turned water into wine, it was six jars, six representing man. 26:21.613 --> 26:23.334 [SPEAKER_00]: Like they just brought themselves. 26:23.875 --> 26:23.995 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 26:24.015 --> 26:25.997 [SPEAKER_00]: And then God did what he did. 26:26.213 --> 26:30.459 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, that's been a rule I've lived by is because Michelle has a lot of ideas. 26:30.499 --> 26:33.544 [SPEAKER_05]: She's got a lot of things in her head, some goods, some lot. 26:33.844 --> 26:33.944 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 26:33.964 --> 26:44.560 [SPEAKER_05]: But that empty picture is anytime I would ever even step on a stage anytime I'm going to deliver a message anytime I feel like I even have a prophetic word or something that is in the moment. 26:44.540 --> 27:05.333 [SPEAKER_05]: I like literally stand back there where no one can see me and pour myself out because I'm like if there's any part of me mixed in with this and that's where I think especially as creatives are people that have an entrepreneur mind set sometimes we think we've got a lot to bring and the thing is God's given us something to bring but it you know without him it's empty. 27:05.313 --> 27:20.868 [SPEAKER_05]: And so that's where I think it's a great point and I love that that's what you're going by is because I'm always seeing myself just trying to get the last drop out That he can give it as much as he can in there because I don't want that mixture with what I'm trying to do because that's why I think we see the fruit we've seen. 27:21.409 --> 27:34.982 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, like I said, I've never seen what I've seen on our dance revolution tour ever or with our internship and worshiping and our little studio one like the things that are happening in there is because I think there's nothing else but him. 27:34.962 --> 27:38.773 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, know that would do something like that, just partnership and faith. 27:39.235 --> 27:39.716 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it. 27:39.997 --> 27:40.418 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it. 27:40.519 --> 27:40.920

[SPEAKER_00]: I love it. 27:42.224 --> 27:43.748 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think has helped you? 27:43.768 --> 27:47.419 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess more of like a practical strategic side. 27:47.686 --> 27:49.429 [SPEAKER_00]: to keep this going long term. 27:49.449 --> 27:59.786 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, to keep iterating, to keep evolving, you got lots of dancers, you got lots of teams, you say you toured, like, would you guys go to different cities and different, like? 27:59.926 --> 28:02.591 [SPEAKER_00]: We have a toward the beginning of the year and now we're starting our competition tour. 28:02.611 --> 28:03.011 [SPEAKER_00]: Gotcha. 28:03.151 --> 28:04.133 [SPEAKER_00]: How many cities are you going to? 28:04.474 --> 28:06.217 [SPEAKER_05]: Right now we're at, we're six. 28:06.657 --> 28:06.898 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow. 28:07.118 --> 28:08.821 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 28:08.881 --> 28:10.584 [SPEAKER_05]: So well, what dance rev in our competition? 28:10.824 --> 28:11.185 [SPEAKER_05]: Gotcha. 28:11.205 --> 28:12.006 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 28:12.593 --> 28:20.665 [SPEAKER_00]: What are some things that helped you, especially the sustain and like I did one tour and I'm like, whew, about a grace of God, five cities to God be the glory. 28:21.025 --> 28:26.373 [SPEAKER_00]: But like how are you doing that year, like what are things that that you've maybe systems you put in play? 28:26.393 --> 28:29.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I love to hear a little bit behind the scenes of like what's helped with that. 28:30.143 --> 28:36.052 [SPEAKER_05]: For me, just even longevity of how I knew my husband and I wanted to set this up is prayer and fasting. 28:36.573 --> 28:37.775 [SPEAKER_05]: We don't do an event without a fast. 28:38.195 --> 28:38.836 [SPEAKER_05]: Ooh, no way. 28:39.157 --> 28:40.759 [SPEAKER_05]: I think everybody wants a fast and January. 28:40.880 --> 28:47.670 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I got way more happen in the spirit that all my staff, we travel a 64 people. 28:47.690 --> 28:49.152 [SPEAKER_05]: They all get the same email here. 28:49.172 --> 28:51.777 [SPEAKER_05]: What we're fasting about, we do a son up to sundown. 28:52.538 --> 28:55.262 [SPEAKER_05]: Fast, we have a 24 hour prayer during that. 28:55.462 --> 28:58.547 [SPEAKER_05]: I think we just get to places where we're like, we're covered there. 28:58.527 --> 29:00.490 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, God wants to do something new in North Carolina. 29:00.510 --> 29:01.711 [SPEAKER_05]: He wants to do something new in Orlando. 29:01.731 --> 29:03.033 [SPEAKER_05]: He wants to do something new in Chicago. 29:03.073 --> 29:04.996 [SPEAKER_05]: So we don't do anything without parent fasting. 29:05.036 --> 29:08.320 [SPEAKER_05]: There's never a year we keep going without submitting it to God. 29:08.340 --> 29:09.021 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you want this? 29:09.222 --> 29:18.274 [SPEAKER_05]: Because if this is my identity wrapped in this or this is because I'm financially set or whatever it is, so there's parent fasting, then there's giving. 29:18.254 --> 29:26.730 [SPEAKER_05]: My husband and I believe in giving, I wish I could do this whole teaching, and I'm not talking about prosperity, Mr. John, I'm talking about like, what, see, do you have it in the ground if you're looking for a harvest? 29:27.151 --> 29:28.314 [SPEAKER_05]: That's your event. 29:28.334 --> 29:30.618 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, or whatever you're doing, it doesn't even have to be an event. 29:30.658 --> 29:35.267 [SPEAKER_05]: But we believe that when we started this, it was prayer, it was fasting, it was soing, it was unity. 29:35.247 --> 29:39.374 [SPEAKER_05]: which is massive for the vision, keeping the vision in front of people constantly. 29:39.394 --> 29:41.697 [SPEAKER_05]: We do lots of training, lots of staff meetings. 29:41.717 --> 29:51.834 [SPEAKER_05]: We put a lot of money that we're not getting back out to get people in a room together to worship, to feed them, to keep them like, hey, this is what we're doing and this hasn't changed or if there's anything to tweak or make us better. 29:52.134 --> 29:56.361 [SPEAKER_05]: But the big thing for me that I learned the hard way was seasons. 29:56.341 --> 30:14.383 [SPEAKER_05]: I think sometimes like so when you're doing event where you were like that was hard like you know is I had to understand certain seasons don't last and when you get close to an event you get close to you know you have trouble with staff or you have something going on in your body and you're thinking you know I've gone through a lot of mental stuff health stuff. 30:14.363 --> 30:19.749 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, my husband and I have lost things, finances, we have had to sell five houses to keep this ministry going. 30:20.170 --> 30:24.976 [SPEAKER_05]: So the thing I've realized is got us really showed me about winter and spring and summer, they're in seasons. 30:25.016 --> 30:28.079 [SPEAKER_05]: And if you can't see the next season, you're gonna quit before your time. 30:28.680 --> 30:30.802 [SPEAKER_05]: So I've had to learn to go, oh, this is winter. 30:31.363 --> 30:32.865 [SPEAKER_05]: But winter is not gonna last. 30:33.586 --> 30:35.528 [SPEAKER_05]: And in my summer, where I'm like, 30:35.508 --> 30:41.277 [SPEAKER_05]: You can get a condo, and that's the end of my husband's life. 30:41.297 --> 30:42.439 [SPEAKER_05]: This is like, you gotta let him. 30:42.459 --> 30:44.041 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to Cowboy. 30:44.061 --> 30:46.165 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, where we got a vacation, I'm on realtor.com. 30:46.886 --> 30:48.488 [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe we're supposed to move here. 30:48.608 --> 30:53.816 [SPEAKER_05]: And so, and in my springtime, you know, like, everybody's always saying, I'm sure you always got something going on. 30:53.897 --> 30:57.963 [SPEAKER_05]: You always, but I'm like, no, I'm always fruitful, and I also know my seasons. 30:58.403 --> 31:03.912 [SPEAKER_05]: And so, I think people don't know how to do longevity, because they think

it's a short race instead of a long one. 31:03.892 --> 31:07.336 [SPEAKER_05]: And they don't understand when you're running, it's not going to be cold forever. 31:08.077 --> 31:10.499 [SPEAKER_05]: And you got to understand that because that's why God gave us seasons. 31:10.559 --> 31:20.610 [SPEAKER_05]: I think to understand it's character to understand, there's a time for everything, prayer fasting, giving unity to the vision and know your seasons. 31:22.933 --> 31:24.194 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we could stop here. 31:24.254 --> 31:24.915 [SPEAKER_00]: We really could. 31:25.636 --> 31:29.460 [SPEAKER_00]: No, that is all of that is good. 31:30.098 --> 31:33.402 [SPEAKER_00]: Fasting, what's we really don't do anymore? 31:34.403 --> 31:37.186 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless it's like, yeah, like a corporate. 31:39.168 --> 31:42.571 [SPEAKER_00]: Giving, you're pouring into your team members. 31:42.792 --> 31:48.358 [SPEAKER_00]: I used to work at agency and we used to work with Chick-fil-A. 31:49.098 --> 31:54.544 [SPEAKER_00]: And the amount of money and time they spent in training their leaders was just unbelievable. 31:55.045 --> 31:58.148 [SPEAKER_00]: Where they're like, our secret sauce is us, 31:58.246 --> 32:02.392 [SPEAKER_00]: developing our team, it's all those different, I love that. 32:02.412 --> 32:18.516 [SPEAKER_00]: And then just, just attention out, but you said something that just like, if you saw my face, I was like, of all those things, the goal is that in every season, you're after ear, you're always fruitful. 32:19.998 --> 32:41.365 [SPEAKER_00]: fruitful can be informed of blessing can be informed of money, but it's not always that it's like and all things like like we're called to I mean songs one talks about that like and that we I'm gonna pull up songs one because we in the spirit now it's I used to have to read it before school 32:42.880 --> 32:51.017 [SPEAKER_00]: He is like a tree planned by the shoes of water that yields his fruit and season and his leaf does not weather and all he does, he prospers. 32:51.352 --> 33:19.738 [SPEAKER_05]: We can stay on that one forever, because that's how the Lord showed me this ministry is you're going to become a tree and if it's not rooted and grounded in who I am, and then once that tree comes up, the fruitfulness has come out of it, the competitions, the internship, the boutique, it was like that had to be the main thing that this was about souls is about changing face of dance and from there all these things stemmed, but fruitfulness to me, yeah, you can't go when you get to have it and throw your money at him, but one thing I can do is turn around and be like, 33:20.815 --> 33:22.739 [SPEAKER_05]: that you said make heaven crowded, right? 33:22.779 --> 33:24.081 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, fluttering hell. 33:24.181 --> 33:29.992 [SPEAKER_05]: And so for me, fruitfulness always has to look like lives being changed, including my own and my family's first. 33:31.355 --> 33:35.683 [SPEAKER_05]: Because I would go to summers and feel so, that's when I would get really sick. 33:36.204 --> 33:37.727 [SPEAKER_05]: Because we would tour, we would tour. 33:37.707 --> 33:38.769 [SPEAKER_05]: tour the whole year. 33:38.809 --> 33:40.032 [SPEAKER_05]: I would have my internship. 33:40.112 --> 33:43.098 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we have this incredible internship of young leaders. 33:43.138 --> 33:48.088 [SPEAKER_05]: They stay with us for nine months at a time and they go home and then the tour would be gone and then we'd go on vacate. 33:48.348 --> 33:51.975 [SPEAKER_05]: And then the summer I get sick because I'm like, I'm not being fruitful. 33:52.496 --> 33:53.278 [SPEAKER_05]: And I got striving. 33:53.298 --> 33:55.262 [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I was talking about is like, what's your fullness to me? 33:55.282 --> 33:55.362 [SPEAKER_05]: What 33:55.342 --> 33:57.065 [SPEAKER_05]: that we weren't making any money at the time. 33:57.466 --> 34:03.916 [SPEAKER_05]: But I was like thinking that if I wasn't preaching my face off and doing all these events, I was unfruitful. 34:04.337 --> 34:12.551 [SPEAKER_05]: And God had to really show me about fruit, how fruit grows, how fruit lasts, how fruit can grow in the winter, you know, you might not see it come up out of the ground. 34:12.972 --> 34:17.940 [SPEAKER_05]: But that was a big thing for me is I don't if you ask anybody that knows me. 34:17.920 --> 34:27.508 [SPEAKER_05]: If there's no fruit we're done like if God start if the fruit stops you know and it's not like in a one event thing I'm talking like a fruit we start to see fruit fade 34:28.045 --> 34:28.526 [SPEAKER_05]: hang it up. 34:28.806 --> 34:29.868 [SPEAKER_05]: Hang it up. 34:29.888 --> 34:30.289 [SPEAKER_05]: We're done. 34:30.309 --> 34:30.790 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 34:30.950 --> 34:31.751 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's not money. 34:31.771 --> 34:32.192 [SPEAKER_05]: The money. 34:32.272 --> 34:33.214 [SPEAKER_05]: God has been good with money. 34:33.354 --> 34:44.292 [SPEAKER_05]: We could talk about money all day and what God's done for my husband and I through giving away cars and houses and that earrings and then I gave away a ring that was wedding like stuff that must be like, why would you do that? 34:44.332 --> 34:45.194 [SPEAKER_05]: That's precious. 34:45.274 --> 34:46.736 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, it's precious on earth. 34:47.378 --> 34:51.825 [SPEAKER_05]: But if I'm going to pay into the eternal what God's asking me to do, I can't hold on to that. 34:51.805 --> 34:53.847 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's what fruit is to me. 34:54.287 --> 35:03.696 [SPEAKER_05]: And I love that verse because it's helped me so much, even if realized who am I, because it's tree by the waters, it can't be not tethered to the root system. 35:04.096 --> 35:10.922 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think people are tethering their stuff, to their stuff, their tethering it to their vision, their tethering it to their brand. 35:11.223 --> 35:14.065

[SPEAKER_05]: All that stuff will get up, Rudy, last night we had a tornado watch at our house. 35:14.145 --> 35:20.631 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, anything that's not tied down is on his way out, so tether yourself to the kingdom 35:20.611 --> 35:28.723 [SPEAKER_05]: seasons change or money's gone or you're going through this stuff you're not like me burnout in a hospital bed because I didn't know what fruit meant. 35:29.264 --> 35:32.930 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the hardest things about being your Christian entrepreneur is doing it alone. 35:33.170 --> 35:35.554 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard for us to find the right community. 35:35.814 --> 35:40.982 [SPEAKER_00]: You either have your church community or your business community but rarely do those things next. 35:40.962 --> 35:47.550 [SPEAKER_00]: and the future of your business is solely tied to the relationships that you surround yourself with. 35:47.570 --> 35:49.733 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why we created the Faith Hustle Network. 35:50.133 --> 35:54.318 [SPEAKER_00]: It's designed for kingdom entrepreneurs to get in community together. 35:54.458 --> 35:55.980 [SPEAKER_00]: We have two different options. 35:56.040 --> 35:59.905 [SPEAKER_00]: We have a free option and we have a private paid community. 36:00.406 --> 36:08.235 [SPEAKER_00]: And each of these communities is designed to get even the right spaces with the right conversations so that you can build your business 36:08.215 --> 36:19.829 [SPEAKER_00]: We do weekly calls with seven eight figure kingdom business owners teaching about marketing and branding and sales and systems so that you can build your business on the right foundation. 36:20.029 --> 36:26.197 [SPEAKER_00]: We do Bible studies and prayer meetings to support one another and encourage each other's journey. 36:26.557 --> 36:33.666 [SPEAKER_00]: Now to mention, you get access to our monthly events that we do here in the Dallas area in soon in other cities. 36:33.646 --> 36:36.328 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to be isolated as a Christian entrepreneur. 36:36.589 --> 36:39.411 [SPEAKER_00]: The community you've been looking for is only a quick away. 36:39.732 --> 36:44.096 [SPEAKER_00]: We can't wait to see you get in community and build business guys way together. 36:44.116 --> 36:47.619 [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't mind, can you talk a little bit more about that season? 36:47.659 --> 36:56.727 [SPEAKER_00]: Because like you said, at that time, you know, you guys are doing well, you're making money, you're building the kingdom. 36:58.208 --> 37:02.252 [SPEAKER_00]: And my first few years of business, 37:03.430 --> 37:04.677 [SPEAKER_00]: I was learning how to do it. 37:05.038 --> 37:06.727 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know how to do it guys way at all. 37:07.431 --> 37:10.909 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm about a massive anxiety. 37:11.480 --> 37:16.926 [SPEAKER_00]: had the ambulance called several times, you know, all the things and didn't even know what it was. 37:17.607 --> 37:26.156 [SPEAKER_00]: And

I remember my pastor, he, he, he, he, because I'm like, you know, I'm so clergy, I'm like, is this a demon? 37:26.216 --> 37:29.259 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like the prank that demon books over. 37:29.299 --> 37:31.021 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, get it out. 37:31.061 --> 37:32.263 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, get it out. 37:32.743 --> 37:35.666 [SPEAKER_00]: And then my pastor was like, how's your schedule going to? 37:36.267 --> 37:37.268 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I was like, I was just 37:37.653 --> 37:38.174 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean? 37:39.216 --> 37:39.476 [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny. 37:39.717 --> 37:40.739 [SPEAKER_00]: I should just add another mentor. 37:40.759 --> 37:41.800 [SPEAKER_00]: He asked me this recently. 37:41.821 --> 37:43.544 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm one. 37:43.644 --> 37:45.307 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just still thankful for why it's Council. 37:45.768 --> 37:53.542 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, especially in this season, just in general, one of my mentors, even recently, he's like, how many hours do you think about work a day? 37:54.563 --> 37:56.667 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what kind of questions that to entrepreneur? 37:56.807 --> 37:57.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what do you mean? 37:57.769 --> 38:00.454 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like everyone in my, but I was like, oh. 38:01.143 --> 38:25.231 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, hold up, like, this is, and so anyways, he asked me that, and at the time, I mean, I was doing probably 18 hours a day, like legit, and it was just such a unhealthy but it came from this, came from striving, it came from, I gotta, I gotta figure, I gotta make this happen, I gotta, it was not surrendered, it was not, it was up to me. 38:25.972 --> 38:30.778 [SPEAKER_00]: If you don't mind, because I think that's gonna help a lot 38:31.602 --> 38:34.167 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I get the phone calls, I get the text. 38:34.367 --> 38:43.163 [SPEAKER_00]: I have friends that should be completely healthy, but the stress and them not really surrendering it, it's leading them in the hospital. 38:43.303 --> 38:47.050 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, look, I don't think we even realize what stress does your body. 38:47.150 --> 38:48.973 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it hits everything. 38:49.414 --> 38:51.177 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want in mind, I love for you to share. 38:51.197 --> 38:55.585 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I think it's gonna, it would set a lot of people free. 38:56.392 --> 38:57.715 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, where was those tissues? 38:58.096 --> 39:03.889 [SPEAKER_05]: So I, so just going back, I can feel it coming out of my own. 39:04.089 --> 39:04.851 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready for you. 39:04.911 --> 39:05.713 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready for you. 39:06.073 --> 39:07.938 [SPEAKER_05]: No, I, here's the deal. 39:07.978 --> 39:11.746 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not going to go over my whole testimony, but I did go through a very hardcore mental bout. 39:11.826 --> 39:13.590 [SPEAKER_05]: I was locked in my room for six months with the 39:13.570

--> 39:16.916 [SPEAKER_05]: gorephobia, OCD, schizophrenia. 39:16.936 --> 39:18.238 [SPEAKER_05]: People had to taste my food. 39:18.318 --> 39:19.059 [SPEAKER_05]: I thought I was going to die. 39:19.100 --> 39:21.203 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, darkest of the dark of the dark. 39:21.544 --> 39:24.649 [SPEAKER_05]: Nobody knew what was going on because back then with people weren't talking about anxiety. 39:24.669 --> 39:27.855 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, when they said a gorephobia, everybody was like, is that about a spider? 39:27.995 --> 39:28.756 [SPEAKER_05]: What is that? 39:28.836 --> 39:29.217 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, nobody 39:29.197 --> 39:29.898 [SPEAKER_05]: knew what that was. 39:29.918 --> 39:32.022 [SPEAKER_05]: So when I was going through it, there was not a lot of godly council. 39:32.042 --> 39:33.445 [SPEAKER_05]: There was not a lot of kingdom council. 39:33.645 --> 39:34.567 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know what's going on. 39:34.927 --> 39:38.233 [SPEAKER_05]: But it was dark and life was not something I wanted to live. 39:38.253 --> 39:43.082 [SPEAKER_05]: So coming out of that place, you know, you've got to also look at those triggers in your life. 39:43.122 --> 39:45.205 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I had to find out why that came upon me. 39:45.306 --> 39:47.830 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think there was a lot of reasons that came upon me. 39:47.810 --> 39:56.631 [SPEAKER_05]: But going into ministry, saying yes to Jesus, saying yes to dance, rev, throwing our house in the mix, throwing our car in the mix, all these things, you think it's going to be like red carpet rolled out. 39:57.052 --> 39:57.593 [SPEAKER_05]: Here we go. 39:57.634 --> 39:59.678 [SPEAKER_05]: You said yes, we're going to give you what you need. 39:59.699 --> 40:01.583 [SPEAKER_05]: And also, I was like, I think I have a demon. 40:02.440 --> 40:03.482 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, yeah. 40:03.643 --> 40:05.286 [SPEAKER_05]: All this anxiety, right? 40:05.326 --> 40:13.604 [SPEAKER_05]: And so there's been lots of bounce, but one bout in particular was about 16 years ago when I was getting sick after like the Monday's after tour, I'd get sick. 40:13.644 --> 40:17.974 [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I had mono, I'd be crying all the time and then Summer will come and I was like, what is this? 40:18.315 --> 40:20.820 [SPEAKER_05]: And the Lord said you just want so much control. 40:20.800 --> 40:40.328 [SPEAKER_05]: like you you're controlling you're trying to control what only I can control you are putting all that weight on yourself you're putting all the things like you know because even as a woman you know my husband is the leader of our home and he works with the ministry now he quit everything and laid it down but there's times us that I feel like if I'm not going to make this happen 40:40.308 --> 40:50.325 [SPEAKER_05]: If I'm not going to make it happen spiritually, if I'm not going to make it happen financially, if I'm not going to have the next great idea, which that's all control based and fear based and that's like orphan spirit. 40:50.385 --> 40:56.275 [SPEAKER_05]: That's like, like, the Lord isn't like, like, leaving me over here, like you come up with that then we'll come partner together. 40:56.255 --> 40:58.598 [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, let's sit at the table and do this together. 40:58.939 --> 41:01.402 [SPEAKER_05]: And my yoke is easy and my burden is lie. 41:01.422 --> 41:03.705 [SPEAKER_05]: And I would flip that and enemy loves to flip that. 41:03.725 --> 41:06.649 [SPEAKER_05]: He takes that little, that little scope and he flips it. 41:06.689 --> 41:09.793 [SPEAKER_05]: When something is big, he makes it little, once something's little, he makes it big. 41:10.273 --> 41:13.938 [SPEAKER_05]: And for me in that season, I got so sick 21 months. 41:13.998 --> 41:15.360 [SPEAKER_05]: I had to lay on my side. 41:15.340 --> 41:16.962 [SPEAKER_05]: We couldn't figure out what was going on on my body. 41:17.063 --> 41:17.764 [SPEAKER_05]: I went to doctors. 41:17.884 --> 41:19.406 [SPEAKER_05]: I went to kind of therapy's known. 41:19.426 --> 41:21.049 [SPEAKER_05]: Whatever one ago, too, it was very embarrassing. 41:21.069 --> 41:22.210 [SPEAKER_05]: What was going on with my body. 41:22.771 --> 41:30.723 [SPEAKER_05]: But one thing I didn't do, just go once and once, was to a counselor that understood the mind, body, and spirit. 41:31.344 --> 41:35.951 [SPEAKER_05]: And I went to him once a week and he sat there with me with his wife and talked to me about my broken heart with God. 41:36.512 --> 41:38.715 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, what's that? 41:38.695 --> 42:04.703 [SPEAKER_05]: And he said, well, you have a broken heart with him because you think he's left you to do all this on your own or you think when you ask him to do something big use me big you always get sick and you think you're a joke like that if you're going to do the thing he's going to use you as an example or he's constantly using you as an example when he doesn't come through or something doesn't look the same you have a broken heart with God I had to work through that piece for a really long time because my sense of control. 42:04.683 --> 42:15.336 [SPEAKER_05]: made me not trust him, and when you can't trust your father, which you know you can, or the person that was the provider and we weren't getting provided for in the moments like I thought I got a broken heart with him. 42:15.856 --> 42:16.597 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was sick. 42:16.918 --> 42:22.745 [SPEAKER_05]: Like I only came downstairs from our tour to speak twice and then I go back up to the room and lay on my side because I couldn't sit up straight. 42:23.345 --> 42:29.593 [SPEAKER_05]: And what anxiety did to my body, what striving, what ego, what control. 42:29.573 --> 42:32.297 [SPEAKER_05]: did to me and it broke my heart with the father. 42:32.858 --> 42:36.083 [SPEAKER_05]: And I had to get that meant it because he did nothing to break my heart. 42:36.344 --> 42:38.547

[SPEAKER_05]: He only did everything to mend my heart. 42:38.928 --> 42:46.400 [SPEAKER_05]: But I feel like a lot of people don't understand how deep that is sometimes that when you feel like God hasn't come to on this or your word, he won't. 42:46.660 --> 42:47.582 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a trust issue. 42:47.822 --> 42:48.443 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 42:48.423 --> 42:49.306 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a trust factor. 42:49.326 --> 42:50.248 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a control issue. 42:50.689 --> 42:53.738 [SPEAKER_05]: So I just had to learn about what that look like for me. 42:53.818 --> 42:56.045 [SPEAKER_05]: I had to learn if a staff member left me. 42:56.125 --> 43:01.059 [SPEAKER_05]: I had to learn if the money and this event was smaller than the next that I had not been left. 43:01.159 --> 43:02.343 [SPEAKER_05]: I had not been forsaken. 43:02.644 --> 43:03.867 [SPEAKER_05]: I had something to learn. 43:03.847 --> 43:06.411 [SPEAKER_05]: So in those learning moments is how we grow. 43:06.471 --> 43:11.217 [SPEAKER_05]: In those learning moments when you have to come from something you don't want to confront is how we show Jesus. 43:11.698 --> 43:13.501 [SPEAKER_05]: And so in those moments, I had to learn. 43:13.521 --> 43:14.622 [SPEAKER_05]: This isn't a punishment. 43:14.682 --> 43:15.644 [SPEAKER_05]: This is a promise. 43:16.084 --> 43:22.894 [SPEAKER_05]: And so I just think some people need to know that pain is not equivalent to we're done. 43:23.034 --> 43:26.018 [SPEAKER_05]: Or pain is not equivalent to we're not doing good enough pain. 43:26.579 --> 43:29.062 [SPEAKER_05]: When done right when working out, we'll produce a muscle. 43:29.423 --> 43:33.769 [SPEAKER_05]: And so for me, I started to let pain work itself out, 43:33.749 --> 43:38.916 [SPEAKER_05]: I would say we've had years of pain that I thought I could not endure it anymore, and that would be one of those seasons. 43:38.976 --> 43:40.438 [SPEAKER_05]: I still remember laying on the floor in the house. 43:40.478 --> 43:46.385 [SPEAKER_05]: I was living in Lantana, Texas, crying so hard that I was like, I was like, I was crying so hard. 43:46.806 --> 43:52.593 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, where I was vomiting, because I was said, I said to my husband, he was laying there in the closet with me, just patting my head, just praying in the spirit. 43:52.613 --> 43:53.935 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, I'm done. 43:53.915 --> 43:54.937 [SPEAKER_05]: can't do it anymore. 43:55.598 --> 44:16.632 [SPEAKER_05]: I can't do you need to call everybody call Megan call everybody because I think that he has left me and that's when after I think he's taken his grace off me because the pain is too much to endure and in that moment he prayed some prayer over me that was most powerful prayer and I remember getting up everything was just my whole hair was wet and I 44:16.612 --> 44:21.819 [SPEAKER_05]: when I first laid hands on somebody that their spine straightened up and was proven with an MRI. 44:22.079 --> 44:23.742

[SPEAKER_05]: That was the year when I laid hands on kids. 44:23.762 --> 44:27.447 [SPEAKER_05]: They're just walking by a squirm from one class in the next and it says popped in my hand. 44:27.747 --> 44:29.349 [SPEAKER_05]: That was the year little girl came up for prayer. 44:29.389 --> 44:30.531 [SPEAKER_05]: Her eyes were crossed. 44:30.551 --> 44:33.114 [SPEAKER_05]: She took off her glasses and she said, I want my eyes to be crossed. 44:33.154 --> 44:34.957 [SPEAKER_05]: I prayed over her eyes and didn't see her till the next year. 44:34.977 --> 44:35.718 [SPEAKER_05]: Eyes are on cross. 44:35.958 --> 44:42.467 [SPEAKER_05]: Like that's when like you come out of broken places and you're just dancing at a dance convention and you're just keeping my makeup so simple. 44:42.447 --> 44:43.289 [SPEAKER_05]: No, that's good. 44:43.309 --> 44:44.771 [SPEAKER_05]: But Jesus went from one place to the next. 44:44.791 --> 44:45.272 [SPEAKER_05]: He got a boat. 44:45.292 --> 44:45.853 [SPEAKER_05]: He went to the next. 44:45.873 --> 44:47.536 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a guy filled with the demon illusions. 44:47.636 --> 44:48.618 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get the demon out of him. 44:48.638 --> 44:49.560 [SPEAKER_05]: Then he goes to the next place. 44:49.600 --> 44:51.864 [SPEAKER_05]: He eats dinner like it's just a journey. 44:52.405 --> 44:59.818 [SPEAKER_05]: And we try making about a moment and an event where when I came up out of that closet and why my eyes and decided pain wasn't going to define this. 44:59.858 --> 45:03.264 [SPEAKER_05]: It was going to provoke ministry in me. 45:03.765 --> 45:05.248 [SPEAKER_05]: That's when everything changed. 45:06.190 --> 45:07.031 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm talking too much. 45:07.372 --> 45:08.153 [SPEAKER_00]: No, you are not. 45:08.554 --> 45:11.159 [SPEAKER_00]: No, this is a podcast. 45:11.219 --> 45:14.224 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the point at why we're here. 45:14.244 --> 45:17.249 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh. 45:18.090 --> 45:19.313 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, one, I'll just say this. 45:20.334 --> 45:23.119 [SPEAKER_00]: Even for myself, you don't know how freeing that is to here. 45:25.383 --> 45:26.545 [SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, 45:30.018 --> 45:32.748 [SPEAKER_00]: My other business that I had, I had heart moments for sure. 45:33.491 --> 45:41.901 [SPEAKER_00]: This is, this has been the first thing I built where I'm like, oh no, this is like, this is a mandate, this isn't just like, 45:42.758 --> 45:43.239 [SPEAKER_00]: a hustle. 45:43.920 --> 45:45.622 [SPEAKER_00]: This is done. 45:45.642 --> 45:47.004 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm building this with God. 45:47.925 --> 45:50.649 [SPEAKER_00]: And I see the vision for the next 2025 years of my life. 45:53.012 --> 45:54.655 [SPEAKER_00]: I can see the families that were helping. 45:54.695 --> 45:58.320 [SPEAKER_00]: I can see the orphans that we help run or I can see it. 45:58.380 --> 46:00.102 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, every time I close my eyes, I can see it. 46:01.084 -->

46:09.255 [SPEAKER_00]: And it has been it is produced the most pain that I didn't think was possible. 46:09.877 --> 46:14.624 [SPEAKER_00]: And so let's listen, we talked about Peyton Wallace and Peyton will be on the show soon. 46:15.585 --> 46:18.089 [SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the men that I would call. 46:18.390 --> 46:22.215 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a handful of people that I have, when I think about quitting. 46:22.836 --> 46:28.424 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I call them like sometimes once a month, sometimes once a quarter of like, I'm done, I can't do this! 46:28.484 --> 46:39.681 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, what a guy I said, you got, come on, and this, that is free more than you know. 46:41.737 --> 46:42.799 [SPEAKER_00]: oil is expensive. 46:44.141 --> 46:44.461 [SPEAKER_04]: Hello. 46:44.782 --> 46:47.125 [SPEAKER_00]: It is, it is not cheap. 46:48.667 --> 46:56.539 [SPEAKER_00]: And even just hearing all the testimonies, all the stuff, like I said, yeah, it makes sense. 46:56.559 --> 47:07.295 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yeah, because I do think there is a romanticized idea of on building with God. 47:07.336 --> 47:11.001 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to see revival and 47:11.842 --> 47:16.519 [SPEAKER_00]: What's yes, but every resurrection is preceded by death. 47:18.467 --> 47:20.755 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't have resurrection without death. 47:21.511 --> 47:24.374 [SPEAKER_05]: And people are saying, I want to do things for God, but not from God. 47:24.774 --> 47:25.034 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 47:25.074 --> 47:25.875 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a difference. 47:26.175 --> 47:29.178 [SPEAKER_05]: For God, let's just do this thing and then put his name on it. 47:29.619 --> 47:32.662 [SPEAKER_05]: From God, and he can sustain that thing. 47:32.802 --> 47:33.302 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. 47:33.322 --> 47:33.943 [SPEAKER_05]: It's different. 47:34.564 --> 47:35.284 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness. 47:35.304 --> 47:38.808 [SPEAKER_00]: That's so I was reading the scripture. 47:38.868 --> 47:41.830 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to remember the exact place in scripture. 47:42.091 --> 47:43.953 [SPEAKER_00]: Romans 8, 17. 47:44.553 --> 47:45.954 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'll go a little bit back. 47:45.994 --> 47:49.678 [SPEAKER_00]: Which I Romans 8's probably my favorite chapter in the whole Bible. 47:49.658 --> 48:11.818 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it says for you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back in the fear, but you've received the spirit of adoption at sons But when we cry obfathers, the spirit of himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children and if children and airs, airs of God and fellow airs of Christ, so it's like, we're co-are so it's up like growing up, that was like, you have authority in Christ, you are co-wear and it's like, ah 48:11.798 --> 48:21.167 [SPEAKER_00]: was I love I love that like we we have authority and yes we're we can build with him and and co-create with God and my it that is the truth. 48:22.828 --> 48:33.138

[SPEAKER_00]: I rarely have seen people finish this verse in verse 17 says in if children then airs airs of God fill out airs of Christ provided we suffer with him. 48:33.358 --> 48:34.359 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh oh. 48:34.820 --> 48:41.586 [SPEAKER_05]: In order that we also read all of the crowd in the back. 48:42.950 --> 48:44.852 [SPEAKER_05]: That's where the people don't have longevity. 48:46.334 --> 48:48.557 [SPEAKER_05]: When you run along race, have you seen those people? 48:48.577 --> 48:49.698 [SPEAKER_05]: They can't feel their legs. 48:49.758 --> 48:51.360 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, there's time somebody has to help them. 48:51.380 --> 48:54.704 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think the suffering produces just exhaustion. 48:55.425 --> 48:58.809 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's when you're trying to do it on your own and that thing becomes an idol. 48:59.250 --> 49:11.505 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, when you're laying in bed at night, thinking about your business all the time, when you're laying in bed, thinking about how you're gonna make it happen, that's when you are thinking like you haven't been adopted, that you haven't, you don't have a, like when we were little, we didn't really think about who's gonna feed us. 49:11.485 --> 49:13.508 [SPEAKER_05]: No, you know, I did an in my test about it. 49:13.528 --> 49:14.850 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't worry about it. 49:14.890 --> 49:15.871 [SPEAKER_05]: Somebody going to get me close. 49:15.991 --> 49:20.257 [SPEAKER_05]: Somebody get me food because we we had a mom and dad that were like taking care of us. 49:20.277 --> 49:25.464 [SPEAKER_05]: And I know not everybody has a mom and a dad, but there is a guardian taking care and you didn't have to beg for that. 49:25.544 --> 49:27.106 [SPEAKER_05]: No, that's the same thing with business. 49:27.166 --> 49:31.192 [SPEAKER_05]: We get to places where we get in our humanity and our flesh of like, how are we going to keep up? 49:31.212 --> 49:32.233 [SPEAKER_05]: How are we going to have the finances? 49:32.273 --> 49:33.395 [SPEAKER_05]: How am I going to have the connections? 49:33.715 --> 49:34.877 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, God is like, 49:34.857 --> 49:36.500 [SPEAKER_05]: I got your food out here. 49:36.520 --> 49:36.961 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 49:37.421 --> 49:39.465 [SPEAKER_05]: I already did it if you just come out and eat it. 49:39.485 --> 49:41.448 [SPEAKER_05]: You're spending too much time in there worrying about it. 49:41.548 --> 49:41.849 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 49:41.869 --> 49:42.670 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a prodigal. 49:43.351 --> 49:46.797 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, and somehow we think that we care more than God cares. 49:47.118 --> 49:48.540 [SPEAKER_05]: No. 49:48.560 --> 49:53.949 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember what I, my mom, uh, see, I used to be in the car and I'm like, where are we going? 49:54.029 --> 49:55.091 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, we're in the car. 49:56.113 --> 49:58.417 [SPEAKER_00]: She'd never would tell me because she's just getting to know it. 49:58.437 --> 49:59.278 [SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, 49:59.967 --> 50:01.189 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure she turned around one day. 50:01.629 --> 50:03.672 [SPEAKER_00]: She's a black mama, so she did not play. 50:04.113 --> 50:05.054 [SPEAKER_00]: She turned around. 50:05.074 --> 50:10.002 [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, do you think I would take you somewhere that would not be for your benefit? 50:10.743 --> 50:13.407 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a resident kid, just being like, so good. 50:14.568 --> 50:14.789 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 50:14.809 --> 50:18.374 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was like, why do you think I would take you somewhere that you would not enjoy? 50:19.676 --> 50:24.202 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm over here, even at the tender age of like four, five, where are we going, where are we going? 50:24.903 --> 50:26.025 [SPEAKER_00]: And, um, 50:26.444 --> 50:35.818 [SPEAKER_00]: and that says as adults, and especially when you put the title entrepreneur or visit, it's like, oh, automatically, that's only me. 50:36.338 --> 50:51.861 [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what's taught, that's what's like, hey, I'm not going to say this person's name, God bless this person, but this is actually a belief, I'll tell you out there, a believer who said this, and I was shocked, and they're a pastor, but they're also kind of in the business space, and they're like, 50:52.415 --> 50:55.200 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we are the masters of our own destiny. 50:55.961 --> 50:57.524 [SPEAKER_00]: We are the creators of our own fate. 50:57.624 --> 51:00.208 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, point the verse. 51:01.190 --> 51:03.173 [SPEAKER_00]: And this Bible, where? 51:03.233 --> 51:04.015 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 51:04.636 --> 51:05.036 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 51:05.938 --> 51:10.105 [SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, even over the past months, God's had to remind me of that. 51:10.866 --> 51:11.267 [SPEAKER_00]: Of like, 51:12.293 --> 51:17.158 [SPEAKER_00]: your job is to bring jars, your job's not to produce oil, it's just to bring jars. 51:17.819 --> 51:20.581 [SPEAKER_00]: I do that, like, let me do what I do. 51:21.482 --> 51:23.885 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can't care for this more than I do. 51:24.826 --> 51:34.456 [SPEAKER_00]: And it is interesting yet the control that we can have because we want to have a guarantee of the outcome because that's what we're taught. 51:35.236 --> 51:41.743 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're taught to have projections in this and that. 51:42.263 --> 51:43.825 [SPEAKER_05]: It was a counterfeit of the real thing. 51:43.905 --> 51:47.871 [SPEAKER_05]: And I think the enemy would love for us to buy into a counterfeit version, because that does cost less. 51:49.654 --> 51:49.754 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 51:49.774 --> 51:54.941 [SPEAKER_05]: And a counterfeit versus a counterfeit cost less. 51:54.961 --> 51:55.482 [SPEAKER_05]: Always. 51:55.922 --> 52:09.722 [SPEAKER_05]: So if you can get us in a counterfeit thinking of who we are or the masters and all this stuff, when I'm like, the real thing is much more costly and

much more beautiful and is going to last longer than these counterfeit things that people keep going for. 52:09.702 --> 52:12.787 [SPEAKER_05]: Because it was cheaper, it was faster, it was less expensive. 52:12.827 --> 52:17.073 [SPEAKER_05]: That's what I feel like I love social media, but it's produced things that came too quick. 52:17.174 --> 52:18.696 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, that's a counterfeit. 52:18.796 --> 52:21.941 [SPEAKER_05]: You knock a beable unless you get your character right and understand the process. 52:22.001 --> 52:23.764 [SPEAKER_05]: And yes, God will bring people out and do something. 52:23.984 --> 52:24.925 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, he brought David out. 52:24.946 --> 52:26.047 [SPEAKER_05]: That wasn't who they wanted. 52:26.127 --> 52:27.149 [SPEAKER_05]: But he was in the field. 52:27.730 --> 52:28.751 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 52:28.771 --> 52:28.932 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 52:29.252 --> 52:31.075 [SPEAKER_05]: But I always say that counterfits are cheap. 52:31.736 --> 52:35.001 [SPEAKER_05]: They might look the same, but they always cost less. 52:35.808 --> 52:40.534 [SPEAKER_05]: And just speaking it, let me just tell you, you speak it into, so you talk about the pain you're in now. 52:40.655 --> 52:43.579 [SPEAKER_05]: I just think, too, you're going on this massive territory change. 52:43.959 --> 52:57.057 [SPEAKER_05]: Like God has given you so much territory, the people he's hooking up with and what God is doing is when you get into these bigger territories, you know, my husband, I've been built houses, you have to tear things down, then the snakes come up and the scorpions come up and you're just like, you're going in their space. 52:57.037 --> 53:08.512 [SPEAKER_05]: And so we've got to see that we don't give the enemy so much credit in that, but you're having to like pioneer, pioneering as when you're cutting things down and you're getting cut in the process because you're paving ways that haven't been paid by anybody. 53:08.932 --> 53:09.753 [SPEAKER_05]: And we had to do that. 53:09.773 --> 53:18.705 [SPEAKER_05]: We were in like the bush for a long time and things are flying on me and attaching to me and I was like, oh, because no one else has cleared the space yet and that's what you're doing. 53:18.965 --> 53:20.507 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, truly. 53:20.527 --> 53:23.010 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's what it feels like, even um, 53:22.990 --> 53:29.760 [SPEAKER_00]: I got a prophetic word from a dear friend, hopefully one day I can have him on the show and brilliant guys, mate. 53:30.432 --> 53:43.307 [SPEAKER_00]: and saying to my money and crypto, but just man of God and he gave me a word, he said, bro, he said, don't change up what God instructed you of how to build, how to build this. 53:44.188 --> 53:49.174 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I try to fight it, I have a shepherd's heart, I can't help it. 53:49.294 --> 53:53.479 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, like trust me, I prayed, like God, I'll do anything that would be a pastor. 53:54.040 --> 53:59.106 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, that shepherd heart keep coming in and I'll be like, dang it, like, and he's like, no, 53:59.744 --> 54:06.013 [SPEAKER_00]: In this business space, it is very rare, and I'm sure even in an advance space of like, to want more for people than from them. 54:07.355 --> 54:10.259 [SPEAKER_00]: That your aim is not to extract. 54:10.399 --> 54:11.701 [SPEAKER_00]: It's to add. 54:11.982 --> 54:12.202 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 54:12.522 --> 54:18.471 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, that build it the way God told you to build it because we need that. 54:18.551 --> 54:19.913 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't need another, 54:20.585 --> 54:25.431 [SPEAKER_00]: business group or mentor group, but we don't need another event to type of visit. 54:25.451 --> 54:28.836 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we need the model and the blueprint that God's laid out. 54:29.897 --> 54:32.641 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think, like you said, it is costly. 54:32.681 --> 54:37.227 [SPEAKER_00]: And it does, you know, like you said, like you're going through your machete, you're getting hit and scratch. 54:37.947 --> 54:40.150 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's worth it. 54:40.190 --> 54:42.413 [SPEAKER_00]: But I just, all of this is just so good. 54:43.495 --> 54:44.456 [SPEAKER_00]: I wish we had another hour. 54:45.117 --> 54:46.739 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be here for another hour. 54:46.919 --> 54:49.242 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, absolutely. 54:50.082 --> 54:50.964 [SPEAKER_00]: to close. 54:50.984 --> 54:59.603 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd love for you to share kind of some last incursments that you would have for those. 55:02.329 --> 55:03.973 [SPEAKER_00]: Even within the 55:05.303 --> 55:18.741 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you would consider dance in an entertainment space, it's not really but kind of, but just those who want to go out in the places of influence and places that historically are dark. 55:20.543 --> 55:26.431 [SPEAKER_00]: It could be in the movies, it could be in music, it could be in dance or all these different things. 55:27.432 --> 55:30.957 [SPEAKER_00]: What would you, your encouragement be, and especially, again, 55:32.253 --> 55:36.025 [SPEAKER_00]: There are people who are experimenting with a lot now, you've been doing this for 25 years. 55:36.727 --> 55:39.977 [SPEAKER_00]: What would be your encouragement to them as they are branching out? 55:40.177 --> 55:42.043 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, what would you say to them? 55:42.766 --> 55:48.475 [SPEAKER_05]: I think you said something that was key at the beginning of like it's it's a branch of entertainment, but it's not well it is to the world. 55:48.535 --> 55:49.136 [SPEAKER_05]: It's entertainment. 55:49.156 --> 55:49.637 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. 55:49.677 --> 55:50.598 [SPEAKER_05]: We're here to entertain. 55:50.638 --> 55:51.540 [SPEAKER_05]: We're here to distract. 55:51.560 --> 55:54.344 [SPEAKER_05]: We're here to make this about you and God's ways are different. 55:54.364 --> 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[SPEAKER_05]: He's here to minister. 55:55.366 --> 55:58.230 [SPEAKER_05]: He's here to make it about him and so with that. 55:58.331 --> 56:00.314 [SPEAKER_05]: What I would say to people that want to go to New York. 56:00.354 --> 56:01.335 [SPEAKER_05]: They want to go to LA. 56:01.415 --> 56:08.166 [SPEAKER_05]: They want to go, you know, all the places and spaces of that that I've been to watch is get equipped. 56:08.146 --> 56:30.998 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that what happens is we want to go to dark spaces but without equipping and without relationship, you know when those guys were going into that house to deliver a demon they're like, oh we heard a Jesus' name, let's go in and do that and that demon threw them out beat them up and they were naked because they only knew about a name, they didn't know about a relationship, they only knew a name, they didn't know about power, it's gonna get called to go into dark spaces, you need to have relationship. 56:31.484 --> 56:33.408 [SPEAKER_05]: You need to have a correlation ship with Jesus. 56:33.428 --> 56:37.537 [SPEAKER_05]: That sounds simple, but I think it's more than what most people think it's not just going to church. 56:37.798 --> 56:38.900 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not just getting on your Bible. 56:39.161 --> 56:46.978 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like living coupling those things as worship right it's doing the things that you are dying. 56:46.958 --> 56:48.000 [SPEAKER_05]: to Michelle every day. 56:48.241 --> 56:50.105 [SPEAKER_05]: You're dying and we die in every day. 56:50.666 --> 56:52.149 [SPEAKER_05]: So with that, then it's equipped. 56:52.570 --> 56:53.071 [SPEAKER_05]: Get equipped. 56:53.091 --> 56:58.983 [SPEAKER_05]: If you're going to go to LA, you can't be taking out a place in a space that it doesn't have the excellence, doesn't have the technique. 56:59.043 --> 57:01.648 [SPEAKER_05]: If you want to get into those rooms, you're going to have to get equipped. 57:01.769 --> 57:03.432 [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to have to invest in yourself. 57:03.412 --> 57:05.934 [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to have to find excellent places for that. 57:05.954 --> 57:10.338 [SPEAKER_05]: But in that process, you're going to have to know who you are and your identity with Christ got to be so tethered. 57:10.359 --> 57:11.019 [SPEAKER_05]: Like we talked about. 57:11.279 --> 57:17.665 [SPEAKER_05]: I want you to see an umbilical cord like when you're attached to your mom, when that gets cut off, we come out, but mom is taking care of us, right? 57:17.685 --> 57:28.455 [SPEAKER_05]: But with Jesus, you know, there's a tethering that has to happen that gives you nourishment, that gives you life, that when you go in a dark spaces, that umbilical cord doesn't get attached to something else. 57:28.776 --> 57:33.300 [SPEAKER_05]: Because if you're called to minister, if you're called to be a light in a dark place, 57:33.280 --> 57:43.394 [SPEAKER_05]: You better be competent, but you better be tethered more than

anything, pride up, understand who we is, understand authority, and make sure you have jurisdiction in that place. 57:43.414 --> 57:45.297 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I have what we've done. 57:45.357 --> 57:56.232 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I think some people are like, let's go over here and try this, or let's go to this like strip club over here and like go to those dancers, and I'm like, it's not like I don't think we have power, but you better check on what territory, and do you have jurisdiction today? 57:56.252 --> 58:01.279 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, we have all authority and cries, but I think some people just have positive leaders go places in spaces where I'm like, 58:01.259 --> 58:03.041 [SPEAKER_05]: I know where I have authority. 58:03.121 --> 58:05.124 [SPEAKER_05]: I know where and I go in places where I have the gavel. 58:05.465 --> 58:06.486 [SPEAKER_05]: Things start to happen. 58:06.546 --> 58:07.167 [SPEAKER_05]: There's fruit. 58:07.207 --> 58:08.489 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't just go try and test God. 58:09.490 --> 58:09.570 [SPEAKER_05]: Hmm. 58:09.590 --> 58:10.151 [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I'm saying? 58:10.471 --> 58:12.634 [SPEAKER_05]: So no, don't just be like, I feel like I belong here. 58:12.654 --> 58:13.235 [SPEAKER_05]: I belong there. 58:13.275 --> 58:14.877 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get a word from the Lord. 58:14.897 --> 58:15.578 [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. 58:15.598 --> 58:16.599 [SPEAKER_05]: Let's get confirmation. 58:16.860 --> 58:20.424 [SPEAKER_05]: So when you get there and it gets painful, it gets dark. 58:20.464 --> 58:22.687 [SPEAKER_05]: You get injured as a dancer and you're like, I'm injured. 58:22.707 --> 58:23.288 [SPEAKER_05]: I have to leave. 58:23.308 --> 58:26.452 [SPEAKER_05]: I got injured, but it didn't stop me from changing the face of dance. 58:26.573 --> 58:26.893 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 58:26.913 --> 58:30.658 [SPEAKER_05]: So that's my advice is don't shy away from it. 58:30.638 --> 58:32.402 [SPEAKER_05]: be equipped to go. 58:32.702 --> 58:33.544 [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you have a word. 58:34.546 --> 58:36.471 [SPEAKER_00]: Faith comes by hearing and hearing. 58:37.132 --> 58:40.640 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not like, you can only have faith for what he said. 58:40.680 --> 58:41.161 [SPEAKER_05]: Right. 58:41.522 --> 58:43.426 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can't just be like, I want to do that. 58:43.446 --> 58:44.007 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, 58:44.543 --> 58:49.152 [SPEAKER_00]: If you didn't say, like, you can, like, all things are possible with God. 58:49.252 --> 58:49.452 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 58:49.493 --> 58:52.198 [SPEAKER_00]: If he ain't in it, it's definitely impossible. 58:52.338 --> 58:55.584 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like, but if he's in it, oh, yeah, absolutely. 58:56.366 --> 59:04.041 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, to those who believe, though, you got to believe, you can't get out there all doubtful, like, diddy, you shouldy, witty, it's like, no, if he says he's going to do it, he'll see you through it. 59:04.061 -->

59:05.543 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is so good. 59:06.165 --> 59:06.906 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my goodness. 59:07.949 --> 59:08.851 [SPEAKER_00]: Michelle thank you. 59:09.371 --> 59:10.373 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much. 59:10.433 --> 59:13.919 [SPEAKER_00]: This has been so much value and wisdom. 59:14.440 --> 59:18.868 [SPEAKER_00]: I am just grateful for you and that finally we're getting to meet a person which I'm so happy. 59:18.908 --> 59:25.740 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm excited of what God's going to continue to do with dance revolution and we'll put all the links. 59:26.180 --> 59:27.122 [SPEAKER_00]: How can he find you? 59:27.372 --> 59:31.397 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, dance, hyphenrevolution.com, ingredients, dance, companies are internship. 59:31.438 --> 59:33.641 [SPEAKER_05]: We actually have an event called now or never encounter. 59:34.061 --> 59:39.208 [SPEAKER_05]: If you're not a dancer, but you want to be involved to see the results and the fruit that are happening on May 9th, we have it. 59:39.228 --> 59:42.012 [SPEAKER_05]: It's totally free for everybody. 59:42.192 --> 59:43.113 [SPEAKER_05]: Come to see that event. 59:43.174 --> 59:44.475 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just, we have Lyle coming. 59:44.495 --> 59:45.537 [SPEAKER_05]: I know you love Lyle. 59:45.557 --> 59:46.098 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, let's go. 59:46.118 --> 59:47.039 [SPEAKER_05]: It'll be there and so. 59:47.059 --> 59:47.920 [SPEAKER_05]: It's in Tennessee or it's here. 59:47.960 --> 59:48.441 [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's here. 59:48.681 --> 59:49.702 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, he's coming. 59:49.803 --> 59:50.704 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, okay. 59:50.764 --> 59:53.768 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's an afternoon, nighttime event, but we bring some of our dance revolution. 59:53.748 --> 59:55.850 [SPEAKER_05]: elements that really change people's lives. 59:55.870 --> 59:57.051 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't have to be a dancer to be there. 59:57.092 --> 59:57.952 [SPEAKER_05]: We bring the visual arts. 59:58.013 --> 59:58.693 [SPEAKER_05]: It's immersive. 59:59.234 --> 01:00:01.236 [SPEAKER_05]: We might play the red cloth down who knows. 01:00:01.456 --> 01:00:02.577 [SPEAKER_05]: That's a crazy thing there. 01:00:02.617 --> 01:00:03.458 [SPEAKER_05]: People are like, what is this? 01:00:03.478 --> 01:00:05.961 [SPEAKER_05]: And then they walk out like sobbing like, Jesus changed my life. 01:00:06.361 --> 01:00:07.082 [SPEAKER_05]: So be there for that. 01:00:07.102 --> 01:00:09.605 [SPEAKER_05]: We'll give you the links and it's been a joy. 01:00:09.665 --> 01:00:11.547 [SPEAKER_05]: And I just love watching you following you. 01:00:11.567 --> 01:00:14.790 [SPEAKER_05]: You really have the favor of the Lord on your life. 01:00:14.830 --> 01:00:15.371 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 01:00:15.391 --> 01:00:17.393 [SPEAKER_05]: And you are a connector, a divine connector. 01:00:17.373 --> 01:00:18.576 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, God is good. 01:00:18.596 --> 01:00:19.478 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm excited. 01:00:19.518 --> 01:00:20.581 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll definitely have you again. 01:00:20.601 --> 01:00:22.165 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll put all the information down below. 01:00:22.546 --> 01:00:23.388 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much again. 01:00:23.408 --> 01:00:23.789 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you. 01:00:24.170 --> 01:00:27.479 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for watching this episode of the Faith Hustle Podcast. 01:00:27.499 --> 01:00:33.053 [SPEAKER_00]: We hope you felt challenged and courage and equipped to walk out your faith. 01:00:33.033 --> 01:00:47.858 [SPEAKER_00]: hustle and if you enjoyed this episode we encourage you to subscribe to the podcast whether you're listening on YouTube or any audio platform as well leave us a review it helps us so much in our rating so we can get the word out to more people. 01:00:48.018 --> 01:00:56.953 [SPEAKER_00]: Each week we have these conversations with business owners who build their business guys way and so we look forward to growing with you on your faith hustle journey. 01:00:57.193 --> 01:00:58.315 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see you next time.