Full Transcript for Hour 3 – TNF Preview, Kurt Warner

18-hole playoff. 00:03:09 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. 00:03:10 Speaker 13: Same year, 08 also. 00:03:11 Speaker 3: Played again. Look at the world record line. A three-time Olympian. World record is absolutely going to be shattered here. The United States trying to hang on a second. 00:03:22 Speaker 5: They should get the silver medal. Australia is in bronze territory right now, but Lezak is closing a little bit on Bernard. 00:03:31 Speaker 3: Can the veteran chase him down and pull off. 00:03:34 Speaker 4: A shocker here? There's no doubt. 00:03:36 Speaker 3: That he's taking that. 00:03:53 Speaker 4: That's powerful. 00:03:56 Speaker 3: Powerful. 00:03:58 Speaker 2: Using the platform for the right reason. There's no fake enthusiasm. That's just real. You know, sometimes you're trying to hype up something. You want to add a little extra. It's almost like he had so much, he almost had to dial it back. And Rowdy in there as well. Rowdy, a former great U.S. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: Swimmer as well. All right. 00:04:22 Speaker 2: Final hour here. Kurt Warner will join us. We got football coming up tonight. You got the Giants and the Commanders. By the way, Sunday night, bitter rivals night. It's Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, Steelers, Bengals, AFC North Showdown. Sunday night football live on NBC and Peacock. You can watch this show on Peacock. Thank you for letting us into your lives. Peacock, NBC Sports Now, or our radio affiliates around the country. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. Dylan, let's recap the first two hours with our poll questions and the final hour poll question. 00:04:56 Speaker 12: Who do you got tonight? Commanders or Giants? 78% are saying the Giants. 00:05:01 Speaker 3: Yeah, not surprised at that. 00:05:04 Speaker 12: And for the final hour, we got a Todd poll. For the Commanders-Giants game tonight, I'm actually pumped about it. 00:05:10 Speaker 8: It's football. 00:05:10 Speaker 12: I'll have it on in the background. Or, nah, I'll find something else to do. 00:05:14 Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking for Jaden Daniels because he's kind of the fun X factor here. neighbors in Scataboo are always interesting. 00:05:23 Speaker 3: J.J. 00:05:23 Speaker 2: McCarthy is going to play. I know he tweaked a side muscle, I believe. I thought it was his shoulder when he was warming up after getting hit, and then he had a, I don't know, what kind of rib injury, but I guess he will be your starter tonight. So I think there's some fun things with this. And I don't know where... And I love Jay Glazer, and Glazer joined us yesterday, and he said, I refuse to talk about coaches on the hot seat. 00:05:51 Speaker 3: He's friends with these coaches. 00:05:53 Speaker 4: I'm not. 00:05:54 Speaker 2: My job is still to look at it and say, is Dan Quinn coaching for his job? It feels like that. But Nick Sirianni, it feels like that. Shane Steichen feels like that. I also have a source who said, hey, you were wondering why the Colts didn't trade Jonathan Taylor. One thing you should really understand about Jonathan Taylor and his relationship with the Ursae family, that's the difference. It's not just trading a player. They would have been trading somebody who was more than just a football player to them. From what I'm told, that relationship was very powerful, and it almost felt like it was a no-go. We're not trading him. Now, I'm sure there would have been a price, but I think that there was far more of a community, family-type feel that Jonathan Taylor. 00:06:47 Speaker 3: Was more than just a football player to them. 00:06:49 Speaker 2: And maybe that's part of the reason or the reason why they did not trade him. We'll get some phone calls in here. I guess J.J. McCarthy, was it a hip injury, Ray? 00:07:01 Speaker 8: Correct. 00:07:01 Speaker 11: It was like a hip pointer type of injury that was making it tough for him to rotate throwing the football. 00:07:06 Speaker 3: All right. 00:07:07 Speaker 2: Big Day Ray is in for Paulie, as he always is. Monday through Friday, the final hour is Paulie and Andrew Perloff get ready for Not So Fast. 00:07:15 Speaker 3: That comes up at the top of the hour. 00:07:17 Speaker 2: Todd's in the back row with Dylan, Marv up front, and Big Day Ray, yours truly, and the BRGs. 00:07:24 Speaker 3: Joe in Connecticut. Hi, Joe. What do you have for me today? 00:07:28 Speaker 14: DP, what's up, man? 00:07:29 Speaker 4: Oh, my God. 00:07:30 Speaker 14: I can't believe I'm actually talking to you. I remember watching you when you were on ESPN when I was nine years old in the morning. 00:07:37 Speaker 2: Great. 00:07:38 Speaker 14: Great to talk to you. I got some Ravens talk. I'm getting scared with this team. So I'm glad we got Jacoby Brissett. I think that was a great pickup for us, at least to kind of get us through the rest of the season until Lamar supposedly is supposed to come back, which he told his teammates, I guess the other day, Hey, listen, I'm going to come back, which again, I, I don't know what's going to happen with him just because he's like glass lately, but And the other thing I'm looking at is now is yesterday. 00:08:03 Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, well, we got to. 00:08:04 Speaker 14: Play a game on Monday night. We have no kicker. Kyle loops on injured reserve for three weeks. And then Moody got, I guess, I guess he went to the Falcons. So then we had no kiss. So we drafted somebody from, I think Riley Patterson, from the, from the dolphins. I mean, this team is starting to really scare the crap out of me. I mean, what do you think the chances are of them just trying to pull something off with, with percent for the rest of this year? 00:08:30 Speaker 2: Well, I don't like Jacoby Brissett as a Band-Aid quarterback, but the bigger picture here is Lamar Jackson and his health. And what made him a two-time MVP, I just don't know what you get out of Lamar Jackson moving forward. What kind of

quarterback is he going to be? Can he be? You know, Josh Allen can be this way from start to finish. Not many quarterbacks can do that if you're also adding the running part of this. Look at Jaden Daniels or RG3 or Cam Newton. Those guys, it eventually catches up to you. 00:09:07 Speaker 3: And it's caught up to Lamar. 00:09:08 Speaker 2: And I just don't think you can have a franchise quarterback making $ 60 million and he's going to miss probably five to seven games a year. 00:09:18 Speaker 3: Dylan, our Ravens apologist. 00:09:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the main. 00:09:23 Speaker 12: Concern is just his health at this point. And obviously there's the looming contract situation, which is going to have to be addressed this offseason. So an ideal scenario, I think, obviously, he stays with the team, and then you just kind of hope for the best in the health department. But it's a big if at this point. Although in the immediacy, the kicking situation, they also signed Harrison Mevis, the– Former Rams kicker to the practice squad. So that should really help things. 00:09:52 Speaker 3: What was his nickname? 00:09:53 Speaker 12: The Thicker Kicker. 00:09:54 Speaker 3: Thicker Kicker. 00:09:55 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:09:56 Speaker 8: Oh, yeah. 00:09:57 Speaker 3: Yes, Ray. 00:09:58 Speaker 11: I think the next step for Lamar. is he's developed really well as a passer. You don't need him to run for 800 yards a year anymore. You kind of just need him to buy time in the pocket, kind of like what Big Ben did, but obviously take less hits than Big Ben did. 00:10:11 Speaker 2: And then I don't know how long you're going to have Derrick Henry being Derrick Henry. 00:10:16 Speaker 3: Can you get two more quality years out of him? Yes, Dylan? 00:10:21 Speaker 12: Yeah, and Derek Henry's at his best when he is part of the dual threat, like kind of the option system that they have with Lamar. But Lamar, even before getting hurt, he's running significantly less than he has been because, like Ray said, he has really honed in on the passing game. His accuracy is much better. I mean, he's always been able to sling it, but I think they— Whether he is or the team is trying to kind of steer him more in maybe that direction of working in the pocket a little bit more, I don't know. But it does eliminate a really awesome part of his game. That's what won him two MVPs. 00:10:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know how you can kind of– well, Steve Young talked about this, that he had to kind of reprogram that go through my progressions. Because if you're an athletic quarterback, as Steve Young was, sometimes it's first option's not there, I'm going to take off. And Steve became a Hall of Fame quarterback, completing nearly 70% of his passes because he went through his progressions without, I mean, he had that long touchdown run against the Vikings. But you can't consist on doing that. And you have these weapons. He had a great coach, great line, weapons. Why would you run? Why would you risk that? And he turned out to be one of the great pocket passers of all time. 00:11:38 Speaker 8: Yeah, Dylan. 00:11:40 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:11:40 Speaker 12: And it's like guys like Steve Young and Lamar, maybe even Josh Allen. It's like you they actually have to fight that instinct where it's like I have this weapon at my disposal, but I should like you want to try and maybe use that sometimes as a last option unless it's a design thing. But because it's easy to be like, he's not there. 00:11:57 Speaker 4: Boom, I'm gone. 00:11:59 Speaker 2: And with the Steelers, you're going to have a reset at quarterback with Aaron Rodgers. He'll play his final year. But the Bengals, if the Bengals can kind of keep it together and they got everybody signed and they made the trade for Dexter Lawrence, if they figure it out and they add a couple of missing pieces, then they're going to be a team that might be a Super Bowl contender again. But Joe, good luck with your Ravens. I wanted to bring back one more Dan Hicks call. And look, this is happening in real time. We just got word an hour ago that he had passed away and We want to pay tribute. We've got to be fair to people that we're reaching out who may just be finding out that Dan has passed away. But here is Dan Hicks on the call. Tiger has to birdie the 72nd hole of the 08 U.S. Open to force a playoff with Rocco Mediate. 00:12:54 Speaker 14: And Rocco trying to become the first player ever to track down Tiger Woods in a major championship when he's. 00:13:01 Speaker 4: Had the 54-hole lead. 00:13:24 Speaker 2: Just the noise level. And I get emotional hearing it. I can't imagine what it's like to be in the moment when you get to witness history. Because his voice is part of the soundtracked soundtrack of our lives. And the skill of, I'm going to see it, say it, and step away. And most of us want to keep talking, but the ability to go, let it breathe, let you into that moment as much as possible. That's the goal, I think, of play-by-play voices. Bring you as close, let you in, now I'm going to ease you back out, and then you pick up. 00:14:09 Speaker 3: Tom in Indianapolis. Hi, Tom. What do you have for me? 00:14:14 Speaker 7: Dan, it's an honor and pleasure to talk with you. I've been on the NBC Notre Dame football crew doing stats and notes for 20 years, and all of us have gotten to know Dan pretty well, and we've always appreciated how personable, how funny, how interesting, entertaining, and what a consummate professional he is. He was, and one of the things that he used to do is our last home game of the year, we always had a chili cook-off, and Dan would always want to be the one to announce who finished where and hand out the prizes and just be part of the crew. He wanted to let us all know that we were important and that we mattered, and this Saturday is going to be tough. I mean, we're going to mourn his passing for sure, but we're also going to remember the good times. And I've been on

the phone with a number of our crew members already, and we're all, you know, feeling the same way, like so many people who are fans of Dan are feeling right now. 00:15:13 Speaker 8: And so I. 00:15:14 Speaker 7: Just want to call in and make that a part of the conversation. And we're all going to miss him, and we all appreciate all the attention that you've all given to Dan this morning. 00:15:25 Speaker 3: Tom, thank you for sharing. I appreciate you calling in. Not easy. Not easy. And you've got a football game coming up in a couple of days. We'll take a break. 00:15:35 Speaker 2: We'll talk about tonight's game. Kurt Warner, the Hall of Famer, joins us next. 00:15:39 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show weekdays at 9 a.m. Eastern, 6 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 00:15:49 Speaker 5: Stugatz here, pleased to be hosting college football with Stugatz and the Bear. We do it two times a week, every Monday, every single Friday throughout the college football season. You can expect a little bit of this. Will Stein, the head coach at Kentucky, joins us. Open bar at a wedding, ordering a Shirley Temple. Will or will not? 00:16:07 Speaker 3: No. 00:16:07 Speaker 4: Will not. Ketchup on steak. 00:16:09 Speaker 3: Will or will not? 00:16:11 Speaker 4: Will or will not? Will not. Thank you. A little bit of this. 00:16:16 Speaker 5: Reese Davis, host of College Game Day, is with us now. 00:16:18 Speaker 8: And then I'm going home to the BBC, and they're saying Jockovich instead of Jokovich. 00:16:24 Speaker 4: Right, because you can't say Jockovich. 00:16:26 Speaker 13: If you do, you know the blowback you're going to get from the American audience. 00:16:29 Speaker 8: Right. 00:16:30 Speaker 4: And a whole lot of this. 00:16:36 Speaker 5: Listen to college football with Stugatz and the Bear on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. 00:16:43 Speaker 3: You get your podcasts. 00:16:48 Speaker 2: More of your phone calls coming up. 877-3DP-SHOW. Email address dp at danpatrick.com. Twitter handle at dpshow. Mike Ryan, the sports medicine analyst for Thursday Night Football and Sunday Night Football, just sent an email. 00:17:04 Speaker 4: J.J. 00:17:05 Speaker 2: McCarthy has a hip pointer. painful bruise at the top of the hip bone at the love handles. The oblique ab muscle is attached there. He's working the game tonight, so he will be watching very closely. 00:17:19 Speaker 3: Kurt Warner, Hall of Famer. 00:17:20 Speaker 2: You can catch him on NFL Network's Game Day Morning, Sundays at 9 a.m. Eastern, Westwood One booth for the Chargers Ravens on Monday night. 00:17:28 Speaker 3: Have you had that injury that J.J. McCarthy has? 00:17:32 Speaker 4: Not when I was playing football. 00:17:33 Speaker 10: I actually had it in Eighth grade, slipped outside, got a hip pointer when I was playing basketball. 00:17:40 Speaker 4: So dealt with it at that point in time. Very, very painful. 00:17:43

Speaker 10: Obviously not the modern medicine that the NFL has. But yeah, definitely painful and something you'd have to work through. 00:17:50 Speaker 2: What's the difference with Jaden Daniels from his rookie year to now? 00:17:55 Speaker 4: I think it's more comfort than it is anything else. 00:17:58 Speaker 10: I mean, you see all the skill level, you know, see his ability to push the ball down the field, obviously his running ability. When he was a rookie, I was continually amazed at, you know, how he would work through his progressions, how he would push the ball down the field continually. 00:18:14 Speaker 4: That to me is what made him so special. 00:18:17 Speaker 10: And I feel like the last couple of years, whether it's his injuries or whether it's some of the injuries around him, some of the pieces around him, that he's not doing that as much. 00:18:26 Speaker 4: As he once did. 00:18:27 Speaker 10: Even when there's opportunities out there, I did a breakdown a couple of weeks ago, just having that mentality of saying every time you drop back, no matter whether that the last time they were open, no matter the last time, if the guy's up front block for you, you have to have the mentality that if something's open down the field on time, I'm going to attack and push the ball down the field. And I feel like sometimes, He's just settling for some other things underneath. And, you know, I can't pinpoint exactly what the reason for that was, but it was different for me when he was a rookie. 00:18:55 Speaker 3: Back to J.J. McCarthy. Have you seen enough? 00:18:58 Speaker 2: Is there a large enough sample size that you see a big difference in what he was supposed to be in Minnesota and what he is now in New York? 00:19:07 Speaker 10: I don't know about a big enough sample size to really know what he's going to be in the NFL. If you've watched a couple of games that he's played with the Giants, where he's been really good is when his first read is available and he can hit that back foot and he can let the ball go. Now, I love that part of it. That's where I seem to see growth is that. He's definitive when he gets back to the top of his drop on whether he likes something or not. And he's ripping it and he making the making the throw, especially the throws down the field. But I need to see more just in terms of, OK, when people take that away, how do you process information? When pressure comes, he struggled with having an answer against pressure. So when things are right, he's making the throw, which you kind of expect from every NFL quarterback. 00:19:48 Speaker 4: Then you want to see, OK, people start to throw. 00:19:50 Speaker 10: Taking that away how well do you play the game from that point forward and that's what i need to see more of to really have an idea of what he is now or what he is going to be moving forward. 00:19:59 Speaker 2: Okay but when you were with the arizona cardinals and you knew they were going to try to take away larry fitzgerald Right. You go to law and scrimmage and you just assume they're going to do their best to take take away that weapon. 00:20:10 Speaker 4: Right. 00:20:11 Speaker 10: Never like you always read the play like no matter what the situation and yeah you're right you go up and you think of you know they're probably going to double larry but you still have to verify you still have to read the play and see if that option is available to you and so um you know i mean there's some plays obviously where you have larry on one side and let's say anquan on the other side and they roll a safety to larry and so you go right to anquan and And you kind of chalk that up to, hey, my one-on-one's over here. But in a lot of situations, it's not as simple as that. It depends on what the play call is. Even if they put a safety over the top, doesn't mean they're taking Larry Fitzgerald away every single time if the route is dictated to go a different place. 00:20:52 Speaker 3: Why isn't Anquan Bolden in the Hall of Fame? 00:20:56 Speaker 10: You know, I think it's one of these classic examples of, you know, when you watch Anquan you didn't see the incredible, you know, ability of, you know, a Megatron or, you know, the speed of, you know, like a Terrell Owens or a guy jumping over the top of people like a Randy Moss. And so I even think when we were with the Cardinals, when he was so great for us, they were always looking to go, and I think we think we can replace Anquan because he's not that fast and he doesn't do yet everywhere. He went, he was just the top receiver. You know, it went from Arizona to Baltimore to San Francisco and, was the top receiver, lead receiver every single time. I say this too, as great as Larry Fitzgerald was, if you gave me a situation where I had to get the ball in somebody's hands in a critical situation, and they had to make a play for me. I might go to Anquan over Larry. I would never not go to Larry. Obviously, he's great. But the point being is that the competitor that Anquan Bolden was and how great he was at making the play in the moment is what I think people continually miss because they might look at the physical skill and say, ah, it wasn't quite– what we think when we see a Hall of Famer, although his production and the way he played the game was as good as anybody I was around. 00:22:11 Speaker 3: He was so tough. 00:22:14 Speaker 2: Him and Hines Ward aren't in the Hall of Fame, and it's getting tougher and tougher at that position to get into the Hall of Fame. 00:22:24 Speaker 10: No doubt, and I think with the new rules where you have to get a certain amount of the votes, and not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but when you have a Steve Smith and a Reggie Wayne and a Torrey Holt, who I believe, you know, look at Torrey, like he's an all decade player and he can't get into the hall of fame. It makes no sense to me, but you know, if you have all these voters going, well, I think Reggie was a little better

than, you know, Steve and Steve was a little better than, than Torrey. And Torrey was like, you start X-ing people off and you can't get that required number of votes, even though, you know, you look at those guys and you can make an argument, obviously that all of them belong in there. But for me, I mean, to me, Torrey's a no brainer, but, He continues to wait, and it's hard for me to figure out exactly why. 00:23:07 Speaker 2: Talking to Hall of Famer Kurt Warner, you've got Kurt Cousins going back to Minnesota, going back to that offense, the same scheme with Kevin O'Connell. 00:23:17 Speaker 3: Is this an easy, like, just plug-and-play situation? 00:23:22 Speaker 10: I don't think it's always easy, you know, when you're going and, you know, changing. I don't know how much the terminology is different. I know he's played with these receivers before, but he hasn't played with them in a while. I think the good thing is that he's played all year long and he's played some really good football. And so he's not like coming off the bench and all of a sudden had to be. reinserted as a starter. And I'm sure Kevin O'Connell knows what Kirk Cousins likes, understands the things that he does well. And so I think all of that's going to make it an easier transition. But I don't know if it's automatically, oh, you just plug him and we're going to be really good again. A couple of weeks ago, I showed a video of you know, Minnesota offense. And there was a number of guys that were open yesterday. I showed a video of Minnesota's offense on Monday night and, you know, through the entire first half, there wasn't very many guys open. So I don't care if you're Carson Wentz or Kyler Murray or, you know, Kirk cousins, there wasn't a lot of guys to throw to. And so that becomes the next part of it. Was that just because it was plays that they were running for certain guys and they'll do some different things with Kirk. 00:24:23 Speaker 4: I don't really know. 00:24:25 Speaker 10: But I know Kirk was playing some good football and, You know, he's familiar with the system. So I think it's an easier transition than it would be for a lot of guys. I just don't know how quick and easy it will be. 00:24:36 Speaker 2: Did you ever forget how to play the position? Because I'm watching Carson Wentz. And look, I know it's the hardest position in all sports, but it feels like you went from being an MVP to now you don't even look like you should be out there. 00:24:52 Speaker 3: How does that happen? 00:24:53 Speaker 10: Yeah. Well, I mean, I think first thing is, you know, you go back to the MVP season and the MVP season. 00:24:58 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 00:24:59 Speaker 10: If he doesn't get hurt, I think he wins the MVP. But in that season, he was like a 60 percent completion guy. And so it wasn't as if he was a guy that was just out there dissecting and picking apart every defense and making every throw. 00:25:12 Speaker 4: He was making a lot. 00:25:13 Speaker 10: Of special

plays, a lot of athletic off platform, big throws down the field. And that's what I think garnered all the attention along with the team winning football games. But if you looked at that and now you say, OK, Carson's not making those kind of plays anymore and you go back to just playing the position. I think that's more of what he is, is he's going to give you some throws. He's going to miss some throws. He's not going to be that consistent guy. And he wasn't that MVP type season either. But I think that's what we missed because all we remember was, my gosh, he was going to be the MVP. How come he's not making every single throw now? I'm not sure he was that same guy then, but I think we get misconstrued a little bit because of that narrative that was out there. 00:25:55 Speaker 3: If you're giving a contract extension, C.J. 00:25:58 Speaker 2: Stroud, Lamar Jackson, put him in there. 00:26:05 Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels. 00:26:06 Speaker 2: If I said those three, who would you feel more confident giving a contract extension to? 00:26:12 Speaker 4: I mean, based off of what they've done, I'm giving the contract to Lamar. And I know he's been banged up. 00:26:18 Speaker 10: I'm not one that likes to call people injury prone, especially with things like you know, the latest one where he hits his hand on a helmet. 00:26:26 Speaker 4: Like we've all done that. It stuff happens. 00:26:28 Speaker 10: You know, Joe Burrow has suffered some injuries too. And you're like, okay, he's a great player. Lamar is a great player and has proven that over and over again. That's the guy I give the contract to. Cause to me, he's still young enough that he's going to have a long career in front of him. I would give a contract extension to either of the other two guys. I've seen enough that tells me they can be that guy. I think CJ has bounced back really, really well. this year, Jaden, I still believe it's there. I watch him every week and he makes some plays that. 00:26:58 Speaker 4: I say, man, it's there. I need to get him back. 00:27:01 Speaker 10: Just like we said about CJ coming into this year, we got to get him back to his rookie year. We got to get, you know, Jaden back to his rookie year as well. But I just, what I see every single week, they check enough boxes to me that I believe you can get them back to where they were and they can be special players in the league. 00:27:19 Speaker 3: What happened to Justin Herbert? 00:27:22 Speaker 4: Um, Yeah, I mean, I. 00:27:25 Speaker 10: Think he's gotten beat up and he's gone through some stuff this season that has forced him to lose some confidence to a degree. Now, he's still making some incredible plays every week, but I truly believe this system doesn't fit him. 00:27:39 Speaker 4: I've talked about it a lot, Dan. There's this pure progression world. 00:27:43 Speaker 10: That's taken over the league where it's simply just, they give you a play and no matter what the coverage is, look at this receiver. 00:27:49 Speaker 4: If he's open, throw it. 00:27:50 Speaker 10: If he's not moved to the next receiver, if he's open, throw it and move along as opposed to what I call kind of full field or coverage read plays where you drop back and based on the coverage, Oh, my read starts over here or a different coverage. My read starts over there. And that was to me more of what Justin had done most of his career. And now they're, they're trying to, To transition him into this pure progression world. And so when you watch him play, I mean, all of us are shaking our head on why have there been so many interceptions where Justin is throwing it right to the defender, like, like right to him. And you're like, how can you not see that? You've seen it before in your career. Why are you not seeing it? And I truly believe it's because, well, I looked at my first receiver and he wasn't open. So I turned to look at my second receiver and I have no idea what the defense is doing. 00:28:35 Speaker 4: I haven't had a chance to see and verify it. Oh, I think he's open. Let me throw it. And then all of a sudden. 00:28:41 Speaker 10: You're oblivious to what's going on around it, and you hit a defender right in the numbers with the football. And so this transition to this different type of system, I think, has really messed with him and taken away his confidence. He hasn't seen it and played as fast as they need him to, and it's just gone sideways very, very quickly. 00:28:59 Speaker 2: Okay, can you give us a sense, since we'll never be in that position of, let's say you're in the shotgun, and you know it's going to be a pass. 00:29:07 Speaker 10: Okay. 00:29:09 Speaker 2: How quickly does something like you got to react? 00:29:11 Speaker 3: Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 00:29:13 Speaker 2: But can you take us through what would be a normal play with the greatest show on turf? 00:29:18 Speaker 10: Yeah. 00:29:19 Speaker 4: So the biggest thing, Dan, is to realize we've only got five receivers. Right. 00:29:23 Speaker 10: So with those five receivers going out, what I'm trying to determine is. Where am I attacking a defense? You know, let's just say we're attacking out by the numbers. We've got a deep corner route and a flat route over there. OK, so when I snap the ball, if I'm looking to throw that, what I'm looking for. is do they have one defender over there or two defenders? So in your terms, are they roll into a cover to type look where I can get a corner that's covering the flat and the deep area and I get a high low off of that defender? 00:29:52 Speaker 4: That's what I'm looking for. 00:29:53 Speaker 10: If they have two defenders over there, I'm off of that and I'm on to whatever the concept is on the other side. So my goal is to understand what we're trying to do offensively so well that I understand, OK, when the ball snapped, what am I looking for? 00:30:07 Speaker 4: What bodies am I looking for? What defenders? 00:30:10 Speaker 10: What coverage can they be playing

to allow a play to be successful? And again, where it's different with a pure progression play is I'm not really looking at that. 00:30:19 Speaker 4: I'm looking to see, is my guy open? 00:30:22 Speaker 10: And when you do that, you lose sight oftentimes of the bodies that are out there. And so you're not really sure what this guy over here is doing because I'm looking over here. Now all of a sudden I have to come back and figure out, is my guy open? What's the defender doing? And so for me, it's simplifying it to, Do I need to see a safety and then an underneath defender? Am I just looking at an underneath defender? Am I looking to see if the corner is in an off position? And those things will tell me this play is good or this concept is good or this concept is not good. And that's how you're trying to speed up the game and make it fast and easy as opposed to just, hey, let me start over here and see if this is maybe open. And I just think it slows the quarterback down so much that it's hard to play the game as fast as you need to. 00:31:04 Speaker 3: Who was the defensive guy who figured you out? 00:31:09 Speaker 10: Um, you know, I mean, I think there was a, you know, Bill Belichick, you know, there's been video of him playing against us because we were a team that loved to throw in breaking rounds. And I remember hearing him on the sideline go, just don't let him throw it inside, like play inside leverage and force them to throw it outside. And not that we couldn't do it, but our offense was so designed. I'm around that. So I think he was really good in the Super Bowl in 01. Hey, we're going to beat him up. We're going to be physical with them. We're going to throw their timing off and try to take away. I thought he did a really good job. And then I'm just going to lean back to the Tampa Bay defense that was so great back when I played. And it was not necessarily that they figured out what we were doing. They didn't do a whole lot defensively. They were just so good with their details that they forced us to have to be perfect. 00:31:55 Speaker 4: The timing had to be perfect. 00:31:56 Speaker 10: And then you've got Warren Sapp and Simeon Rice and company attacking you and forcing you to throw faster. 00:32:02 Speaker 4: And that was the other blueprint. 00:32:03 Speaker 10: Is that if you could force us to play faster and throw off the timing, that was another thing that messed with us. So a couple of different ways of going about it, but saying, okay, this is what they do really well. 00:32:15 Speaker 4: This is how we're going to try to slow them down the best we can. 00:32:19 Speaker 2: Can you hear these guys breathing on defense? I know it's loud, but when you're under center or line of scrimmage, what do you hear? 00:32:31 Speaker 4: The biggest thing is, you try not to hear anything. 00:32:34 Speaker 10: And so you say the same thing about 70,000 fans and they're screaming and you're on the road and all of that. You really try to do your best to just tune it, tune it all out. 00:32:43 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:32:44 Speaker 10: I'm sure you've seen the movie for the love of the game. I think that they do a great job in that when Kevin Costner's pitching. And I think he uses the term clear the mechanism and it shows a scene where he's on the pitching mound and he hears all the noise. And then as he gets into the focus, all of a sudden, you know, you see people clapping, but he can't hear anything. 00:33:02 Speaker 4: And that's kind of the same mode that you get into. 00:33:05 Speaker 10: If you're, you know, if you're locked in, as you walk up to the line of scrimmage and You're not, all you're doing is thinking about what you have to do and you're not hearing anything. Now, I will say there's times where you're not in that mode and you go up there and you. 00:33:17 Speaker 4: Start to hear everything and you see everything. 00:33:19 Speaker 10: And if a defensive line is talking to you or, you know, or John Randall's barking at you, you start to hear that stuff and you're like, okay. 00:33:26 Speaker 4: Stop listening to that stuff and get back into that mode. 00:33:29 Speaker 3: Earmuffs, earmuffs. 00:33:30 Speaker 4: But there are definitely times when. 00:33:33 Speaker 10: You hear you're walking up the line scrimmage and somebody yells at you and you get out of that focus for a period of time and listen to what's happening. 00:33:41 Speaker 3: Thank you. Good to talk to you again, Kurt. 00:33:43 Speaker 10: You too. 00:33:44 Speaker 3: That's Kurt Warner. 00:33:45 Speaker 2: You can catch him NFL Network Sunday game day morning at 9 Eastern on Sunday. He'll be on the call Westwood one for the Chargers and the Ravens on Monday night. All right, last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in store tomorrow, right after this. 00:33:58 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsportsradio.com. And within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live. 00:34:10 Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in store tomorrow, gambling podcast. Have that up for you later today, danpatricks.com. Commanders are getting two and a half against the G-men tonight. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: Let's see. Matt in Tucson. 00:34:27 Speaker 4: Hi, Matt. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: What do you have for me today? 00:34:30 Speaker 9: Oh, hello. Thank you for taking the call. I just wanted to tie in the Selma Hayek and your earlier bathroom discussions. If you remember the movie Pools Rush In, when she makes Matthew Perry stand in the bathroom with her while she's going. 00:34:47 Speaker 10: Oh. 00:34:47 Speaker 9: Because the married couples stuff. Once you're married, you have to learn to do things together. 00:34:53 Speaker 8: Okay. 00:34:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, a friend of mine, I think, produced that movie. 00:35:00 Speaker 8: I think. 00:35:01 Speaker 3: Fool's Russian with Matthew Perry. Stephen Houston. 00:35:05 Speaker 8:

Hi, Steve. 00:35:06 Speaker 3: What do you have for me? 00:35:08 Speaker 8: Dan, good morning. Boys, thanks for taking the call. I have a question, actually, about the next show coming up. Not so fast. We watch on Peacock, and my wife and I have a debate about something on set. We're hoping you can settle the answer for us. 00:35:21 Speaker 5: Okay. 00:35:22 Speaker 8: There's a certain camera angle shot. It's just Paulie. And there's a photograph on the shelf. I believe it's over his left shoulder. My wife thinks it's a younger David Letterman. I think it might be a younger Dan Patrick. We're hoping you can settle that debate for us and identify who was in that photo. Are you taking the call, brother? 00:35:42 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:35:43 Speaker 2: Mario just went to the Not So Fast set. Paulie is holding up the photo, and it is David Letterman. 00:35:49 Speaker 5: Not me. 00:35:50 Speaker 2: Although I have been confused... For David Letterman, this is a while ago when Dave had hair and not a long beard. 00:35:59 Speaker 3: And I had darker hair. Yes, Dylan. 00:36:02 Speaker 12: You ever think about letting the beard rage? 00:36:04 Speaker 9: No. 00:36:04 Speaker 12: No, not in the. 00:36:06 Speaker 5: No. 00:36:07 Speaker 8: No. 00:36:08 Speaker 12: I think it would look kind of nice. 00:36:09 Speaker 3: I don't think so. Maybe if I could do the Kurt Warner kind of beard. 00:36:14 Speaker 12: Okay. 00:36:14 Speaker 3: But that's work. I don't want to work. 00:36:17 Speaker 12: It's not work. Trust me. Do you think this, I have this because it's work? I have this because removing it is work. 00:36:22 Speaker 7: Well, no, no. 00:36:23 Speaker 3: He trims it. He maintains it. I don't want to do that. Like Jay Glazer. Did you see that yesterday? 00:36:28 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:36:29 Speaker 3: That's work. I don't want that. 00:36:33 Speaker 7: Fair. 00:36:33 Speaker 12: A lot of sharp corners. 00:36:34 Speaker 15: Yeah. 00:36:35 Speaker 3: It's just work. I just want to get up, shower, and come on in. 00:36:39 Speaker 10: Okay. 00:36:42 Speaker 3: But you look like you. 00:36:43 Speaker 2: Have an animal on your face. 00:36:46 Speaker 12: Like a ferret? 00:36:47 Speaker 3: Something, yes. That doesn't sound like a compliment. You know what, Todd? 00:36:52 Speaker 4: I don't believe it was. 00:36:52 Speaker 3: Zach in South Carolina. Hi, Zach. What do you have for me today? 00:36:56 Speaker 15: Hey, good morning. I just had a Sports Emmy question. If you did win the Sports Emmy, would you give all the Danettes and everyone on the show their own statutes? Or would you execute a coordinated phishing email for them to claim a personalized sports Emmy and then force everyone into mandatory cybersecurity training and then. 00:37:18 Speaker 3: Give them nothing? 00:37:19 Speaker 2: Zach, let's find out together. But it can't happen unless we win the championship. And I don't know if the odds would be longer for me in this show to win a sports Emmy or the Knicks to win the championship. 00:37:33 Speaker 8: But. 00:37:35 Speaker 2: Our drought has not been nearly as long as the Knicks, who lost at home to the Cavaliers last night. 00:37:41 Speaker 3: Alex in Kentucky. Hi, Alex. How are you, Dan? 00:37:45 Speaker 4: Hey. 00:37:47 Speaker 16: First-time caller, short-time listener. I got a buddy from work that showed me your show, but I have two quick questions for you. Okay. One, how do you think Joe Burrow is going to do on Sunday night? And then two, if you had to pick Skyline or Gold Star, who would you pick? 00:38:02 Speaker 3: If somebody's buying Gold Star or Skyline, I'll take either one. 00:38:06 Speaker 4: Doesn't matter. 00:38:07 Speaker 3: I'm not one of those, hey, it's only Skyline or only Gold Star. 00:38:11 Speaker 2: These are the two chili, famous chili or spaghettis in Cincinnati. 00:38:16 Speaker 3: To me, they're about the same. 00:38:18 Speaker 2: You know, I get a three-way and I'm good. 00:38:20 Speaker 3: A couple of dogs, I'm good. 00:38:22 Speaker 8: Yes, Dylan? 00:38:23 Speaker 12: I've always said there's nothing better than a plate of plain noodles with sweet chili poured on top. It's my favorite. 00:38:29 Speaker 4: You know what? 00:38:30 Speaker 3: At certain times of the night, those meals, like White Castle. 00:38:35 Speaker 12: Well, White Castle, I will eat totally sober. 00:38:38 Speaker 2: But it always felt like I never had White Castle before 11 p.m. It just felt like, well, here we are. How about White Castle? And I'm a big White Castle fan. 00:38:50 Speaker 3: Yes, Tom? 00:38:50 Speaker 4: That being said, if we're talking about three ways, I would take that over any. 00:38:53 Speaker 8: Of the choice. 00:38:55 Speaker 2: You'll never have any chance for a three-way. You're working on a two-way, and it's not going. 00:39:01 Speaker 3: Only in my dreams. Have you discussed that with your wife? 00:39:05 Speaker 6: I've dropped little hints here and there, just doing it half-jokingly. So when she says, absolutely not, I was just joking. And if for some crazy reason, she's like, what are you thinking? I'm like, oh, my goodness. 00:39:14 Speaker 13: Are you kidding me right now? 00:39:14 Speaker 3: What's it sound like? 00:39:16 Speaker 6: So, you know, what if at some point, you know, you can, you know, there are women that you find attractive, right? 00:39:23 Speaker 4: Like, you know, I'll say a guy is attractive. 00:39:25 Speaker 12: You're secure in your femininity. 00:39:26 Speaker 3: What if she says, how about another guy? 00:39:30 Speaker 6: I said, why don't we start with another woman first, and then I'll get back to. 00:39:36 Speaker 4: You on that. It's not on the table. Why are you even getting my hopes up? It's not even an option. 00:39:40 Speaker 8: It's not a thing. 00:39:42 Speaker 12: It's not a thing. 00:39:43 Speaker 3: How about this day in sports history, Marvin? 00:39:45 Speaker 13: RDP got one for you right here. One of our favorites, Kevin Love, scored 31 and grabbed 31 rebounds, producing the NBA's first 30-30 game in 28 years. 00:39:57 Speaker 2: That was against the Knicks. He went 31-31. And I remember asking him for the box score from the game, if he could get that and autograph that. And he said he could, and he never did. Not as bad as Brent Berry, who said he would give me his warm-up from when he won the slam dunk contest, he didn't even take off his warmup pants, right? 00:40:23 Speaker 4: That's right. 00:40:23 Speaker 13: Almost him and Larry bird. 00:40:25 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:40:26 Speaker 2: And then I said, Hey, would you send that to the man cave? And he said, yeah, I I'm moving and I'll unpack some things. And I never got it. Anyway, Mike fires on this date revealed from 2015 to 2017 teams stole communication. They intercepted communication from, And they were using stolen signs from cameras. Boy, that changed a lot of different careers. 00:40:54 Speaker 3: Yes, Todd? 00:40:55 Speaker 6: I just realized my father-in-law listens regularly to this fine program, so maybe I should backtrack on the whole threesome thing. 00:41:00 Speaker 2: Todd, what did you learn today? That's what you learned. Dylan, what did you learn today? 00:41:04 Speaker 12: Bathroom door optional. 00:41:06 Speaker 8: Marvin? 00:41:06 Speaker 13: Dylan has an animal on his face. 00:41:08 Speaker 4: Ray? 00:41:09 Speaker 10: Ray? 00:41:09 Speaker 11: Apparently you can't use the bathroom with the door open. 00:41:11 Speaker 3: Todd, what about me? 00:41:12 Speaker 12: Fans of the Dan Patrick Show believe the Browns are the. 00:41:15 Speaker 4: NFL team who has most overachieved so far this season. 00:41:17 Speaker 2: The great actor John Turturro has a new movie. He'll join us on the program tomorrow. For Todd, Dylan, Marv, Paulie, Big Day Ray, yours truly. Have a great day, everybody.