Full Transcript for Finding Light in Darkness

but yeah, we're hoping for for more snow. 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.759 I I I always throw out a number. 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:44.879 I it felt like it only snowed like twice in Denver this last year. 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:48.079 Yeah, it felt sorry, I I fact checked myself. 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:49.600 It is called El Nino. 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:50.399 El Nino. 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:52.560 According to Google AI overview. 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:59.600 Um it's projected for the upcoming winter, which tilts the odds towards a more active, wetter s wetter southern storm track. 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:06.800 And for Colorado, this typically favors increased moisture and higher snow potential for southern mountains and parts of the front range. 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:12.240 So send in good vibes for El Nino because I would love to get back into skiing. 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:22.079 I well, and you know, uh for Colorado and you know those that partake, uh, we'd love some, we'd definitely love snow in the mountains. 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:41.680 Definitely um, but it was it was a but it it it yeah, it's been a hot summer, but we're gonna we're gonna talk a little bit more about this summer in a new segment we call Finding Light and Darkness, uh, which has really become our tagline because uh not quite an hour of ginger power didn't quite fly with the marketing people, uh although I still use it. 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:43.759 But uh people meaning me. 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:45.920 I talk a lot about and Franzi. 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:54.720 Um I talk a lot about finding light and darkness, uh a lot in in my socials and on uh Butterfly Pavilion's socials. 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:56.800 But we're gonna we're gonna have a segment on that. 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:11.439 Yeah, and we also before I know we're gonna talk more about it, but even you and I, when we're casually talking, you know, not on social media or not on podcast, we weave in finding light and darkness in our day-to-day conversations too. 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:17.040 So it really has become a part of our outlook um on life. 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:18.000 Exactly. 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:20.000 Excited to stuck to dive into that. 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:28.240 So we will talk about that, but um, before we go there, uh what we love to talk about is fan mail. 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:29.759 Time for the fan mail jingle. 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.800 Fan mail, fan mail. 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.839 Can't wait for our fan mail. 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:38.079 Fan mail. 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:41.120 Oh yeah, I love that. 00:06:41.199 --> 00:06:45.439 Uh thanks to Uncle Tim again for the fan mail jingle. 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:50.079 Um a couple of a couple of uh I'm gonna skip over the negative one. 00:06:50.160 --> 00:07:00.879 I I had I had a few negatives uh on social media on my interview with Emily Mendenhall, uh, author of Invisible Illness, uh History from Hysteria to Lung COVID. 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:03.439 Uh she interviewed me for the book. 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:05.759 So I'm in the book. 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:08.000 I'm not gonna not interview Emily. 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:08.560 Sure. 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:09.600 So start there. 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:17.360 That you know, I'm gonna interview her because I'm you know, I got to know her over a couple of years of her writing this book, and I'm in the book. 00:07:17.600 --> 00:07:24.399 Um and oh you're gonna say I I was because I'm really defensive over my dad. 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:27.839 So nobody on the internet be mean to my dad, or I will come for you. 00:07:28.160 --> 00:07:33.279 But we're not even going to address the negative commentary because we're gonna wash ourselves with the negative. 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:34.639 It's not worth our time. 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.680 You're not worth our time, and again, don't be mean to my dad. 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.879 You're got a fistful sandwich coming your way. 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:44.959 Yeah, don't don't kick the the cane out from under tiny Tim. 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:46.079 Kick rocks. 00:07:46.319 --> 00:07:51.439 Um no, but uh I I just want to acknowledge that I I I got some great feedback. 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:53.680 I did get some negative feedback. 00:07:54.000 --> 00:08:00.079 She did take a historical view because she talks about hysteria. 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.839 Do you know where the word hist h hysteria comes from? 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:13.920 I I feel like I learned this in my history class back in gosh, 2008, but doesn't it come from like the 50s or something? 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:22.720 Well, the 50s, but even further back from that, but it is it is tied to uh loosely tied to hysterectomy. 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:28.240 Because they used to do hysterectomies because they thought women were hysterical. 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.040 My God, yeah. 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:32.879 Um that happened. 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:34.879 I it's coming back to me. 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:37.440 The the definition is uh is a making sense. 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.799 Um I'm not gonna try and uh use that word. 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:45.039 Yeah, but so she she's an anthropologist. 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:45.840 Uh so start. 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:49.360 Is her book called again at the um Invisible Illness. 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.200 Invisible Illness is the book. 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:54.720 From uh history from hysteria to long COVID. 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:59.039 So the whole book, or half the book is history. 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:04.720 So it talks about points in history and people that minimized illness. 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:09.360 Um is it across like other pandemics as well? 00:09:09.919 --> 00:09:10.559 It does, it does. 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.360 Just illness and illness in general, too. 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:15.200 Um both. 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:15.519 Okay. 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:23.759

So I mean, she goes back to the Spanish flu, which was a hundred years ago, which there's a lot of similarities between between that and COVID. 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:24.720 Yeah, absolutely. 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:31.360 Um, but she also you know she speaks to a wide swath of people. 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:43.840 She speaks to a ton of patients like me, and I know her personally, and I know her engagement with me was very much about patient advocacy. 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:51.759 I do believe the book uh does uh approach from a long COVID patient advocacy. 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:59.440 She does quote people about pace trials and things like great at exercise therapy, which I tried did not work. 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:01.840 In fact, I regressed on doing that. 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:04.399 Um, so anyway, lighten up on Emily. 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:07.039 I mean, she wants feedback, I want feedback. 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:15.120 I did address the the the controversy head on, so I gave her the opportunity to say, hey, you know, what what's with all this negative stuff? 00:10:15.279 --> 00:10:18.000 Um I I happen to like the book. 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:21.039 Um I happen to think uh very highly of Emily. 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:25.039 Um but a couple of uh other fan mails. 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:27.200 So we won't won't read The Angry Guys Amy. 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:29.919 Um skip over that skip over that. 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:34.240 Joe writes, uh, just listen to season two, episode five. 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.000 You and Nikki are amazing. 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:37.840 I'd have to agree on the second part. 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.440 I appreciate the cancer talk and how uncomfortable it can be. 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:46.480 While difficult to find the right words sometimes, your casual approach makes this better for everyone. 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:47.840 You guys are the best. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:49.440 Um that's so sweet. 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:53.919 That is that is uh from my friend Joe, and I appreciate that, Joe. 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:54.879 Yeah. 00:10:55.840 --> 00:11:00.879 Anyway, Irma writes only two episodes so far, and I'm hooked. 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:04.720 I love, love, love the banter between between father and daughter. 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:08.000 I can't wait to listen to more episodes as this continues. 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:11.279 Thank you for giving us the opportunity to tune in your conversations. 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:14.399 May God continue to bless you with more time together. 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:15.840 Oh awesome, Irma. 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:16.240 So thank you. 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:17.679 That's really sweet, Irma. 00:11:17.840 --> 00:11:18.639 Thank you so much. 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:19.759 Thanks for listening. 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:21.360 That is great, fan mail. 00:11:21.600 --> 00:11:23.200 Yeah, I love that. 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.960 Um, no, all of those comments were super wholesome. 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:46.080 Um, I think something that I talk about when people ask about the podcast is it just feels good to kind of normalize talking about cancer and illness and uh caregiving and bringing that into kind of reducing that stigma um and bringing it into conversations. 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.879 And you know, that that's how we as a family really um we deal with it. 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:52.240 We we talk about it quite a lot. 00:11:52.480 --> 00:12:00.080 Obviously, it's our you know, it consumes a lot of our day-to-day, but we acknowledge that and want to make it positive. 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:01.440 Right, right. 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:21.600 You know, I had a conversation with someone close to me recently, and um she said that um she didn't want to ask about cancer or bring up cancer because she didn't want to bring up. 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:29.600 She didn't want to, you know, dwell on a bad topic or yeah, yeah, or upset me or make me sad. 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:41.360 And I'm like, yeah, I think I might write a Substack post about this because uh, you know, it uh we we cover how to talk about cancer a lot in this podcast, and hey, it's okay. 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:44.799 Um I have cancer and it's a part of my life. 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:47.360 It's it's okay to simply say, How are you doing? 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:54.000 Um, you know, I think there's a lot of other questions you can ask, but um, you know, that that came up uh recently. 00:12:54.240 --> 00:13:00.159 I did want to point out for those on YouTube, I am sporting my man bracelet. 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:02.960 Very cool from the resistors. 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.759 Um The Resistors We love them. 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:10.240 We I've been on, I was on Spaces with them, uh Twitter Spaces. 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:11.679 They don't do that anymore. 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:18.960 We announced their podcast on our podcast, uh, The Resistors, No Ostriching here. 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:25.120 And uh so I've been on since been on their podcast as as one of their guests. 00:13:25.279 --> 00:13:30.559 So these are friends that I developed through X, formerly known as Twitter. 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:31.919 I still sometimes call it Twitter. 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:33.039 Oh, I still call it Twitter. 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:34.480 They're just amazing ladies. 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:45.039 Um and they've sent me you know gifts um you know uh to you know cheer up and you know those are always appreciated, not expected. 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:49.679 But I'm kidding, I'm sporting the fancy leather man bracelet. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:50.320 Indeed. 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:53.039 Oh, and you're sporting the bracelet I got you for Father's Day, too. 00:13:53.519 --> 00:13:54.639 Of course, I had to wear that one. 00:13:54.799 --> 00:14:08.639 And the third one, actually, I think I got in uh not think, I got in Portland when I was visiting Rhythm, which was the

long COVID clinic I was working with before my cancer diagnosis. 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:10.480 But uh still good friends with them. 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:16.480 I've they I've talked to them about actually coming on the podcast, and they are open to doing that. 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:23.360 Um but we we mentioned finding light and darkness, and it it I think this could be a recurring segment. 00:14:23.679 --> 00:14:40.720 And sure I want to talk about uh in the whole idea of finding light and darkness, as you can kind of tell by the words, is how do you um and I can't say enough good things about Sileika Juwad's Between Two Kingdoms book. 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:55.840 And at the end of her book, she first half of the book is kind of her cancer journey and uh treatment uh as a young woman in her 20s um living in living in New York. 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:11.600 Um at the end of the second half of the book, she goes on a kind of a van life uh journey meeting people that wrote to her because she became a columnist for the New York Times uh during during their treatment. 00:15:11.759 --> 00:15:24.159 Um so a lot of people wrote her letters, so she went on this van journey, and um I'll have to paraphrase, but one of the people that she met in the book towards the end of the book asked her, Well, would you change anything? 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:34.399 And fundamentally she said that she wouldn't, and that um you know it's kind of defined her, and I almost feel the same. 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:53.519 There's days I feel exactly the same way, in that um my life right now seems um so vibrant and full because I am so appreciative of whatever life can give me, and that can be as simple as watching a movie on the sofa with Mrs. 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:58.320 Seeking Boston or or Franzi, who's my wife, um, or anything. 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.240 It it could be anything, um, you know, pulling blueberry muffins out of the oven. 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:07.519 It's just it it's hard to describe when you've got a terminal illness and stage four cancer. 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:12.000 You just have such a greater appreciation for things. 00:16:12.559 --> 00:16:28.720 And you know, we we try and take respite trips to get away from the dogs that wake us up at 6 30 in the morning, and and we had one this week, and it was a gorgeous room with a patio that opened up to a fire pit, and uh it was absolutely amazing. 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:41.840 But uh on the note of Saleika Juwad, uh my wife uh was a part of her book club, and that's how she found the book um Um Between Two Kingdoms. 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:47.519 Um I would highly recommend it for anybody going through cancer or caregivers going through cancer. 00:16:47.679 --> 00:16:56.639 I sent it to your Aunt Dawn because she had a friend who tragically just she lost her friend um just in the last month and a half. 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:59.279 Um and I sent it to Dawn. 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:01.200 She read it and

she loved the book. 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:08.240 I think it just gives you a better appreciation of the person with cancer, the caregiver, you know. 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:09.920 Different perspectives. 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:11.039 It's on my reading list. 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:13.039 I haven't excuse me. 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:14.079 I haven't read it yet. 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.000 It's been all because I gave you the book, yes. 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:16.799 Yeah, I have it. 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:18.079 It's in my my little library. 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:21.440 No, I know, I I have it. 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:22.400 It's on my list. 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:46.559 Um but I I love how I know we you have difficult days, but I do love how you've been able to like just find the small moments in the day-to-day and really like cherish that and a mind shift absolutely, um, and leaning into positivity, which is really hard to do, I think, in any situation. 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:53.599 And I I feel inspired too, and that's how I I like to live my life as well. 00:17:53.680 --> 00:18:00.319 I think it's easy to wallow in the misery, and sometimes you have to do that, sometimes you have to be sad, you have to feel those emotions. 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:13.839 But I think kind of having that mind shift of what is a small thing today that I can have gratitude for and be thankful for and like find light and positivity in this really dark situation. 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:14.880 Right. 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:30.720 So um so the the this passage in the book, she fundamentally says she wouldn't change anything, and I think that is fundamentally you know part of where you know she too is just uh embracing life. 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:34.480 Um she she got peacocks this week. 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.920 Um so you'll have to follow her on Instagram. 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:43.519 Um so she got peacocks, they've got this like little farms set up with actual peacocks. 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:46.319 I was like, um, is this some new product? 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:48.160 Actual peacocks. 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:52.799 I mean that's really cool for her. 00:18:53.119 --> 00:19:12.720 Um but the thing that Franzi found uh uh uh on top of the book, uh Suleka was supposed to do a uh artist residency in Paris um this summer, but uh she had to go uh get chemo treatment again. 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:23.279 So her uh I don't know the specifics, but it it you know chemo obviously I've gone through and it uh tough to travel with the chemo. 00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:35.279 Um so she called an audible to use a football term and decided that she would have a virtual uh art camp. 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:45.039 So she's got this uh isolation art camp, which I if you're a subscriber, you have access to it, and her subscription is pretty cheap. 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:47.359 But um so I signed up for this thing. 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:55.599 So every week um in the month of August uh she gives you a art assignment based on a theme. 00:19:55.920 --> 00:20:08.319 So this week this week's theme, and the on the 30th, there's a online kind of art geek out with um the artist that she talks about each week. 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:17.200 Um I believe it's Anna um Anna Stapleton Martinez, or Martinez Stapleton. 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:20.079 I'll have to correct it in the in the in the notes. 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:27.519 But so my bridge, um, and I I did write a whole substack post on this because Neil a bridge? 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:28.160 A bridge. 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:28.880 Okay, okay. 00:20:29.039 --> 00:20:29.839 That was the assignment for this. 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:34.079 It could be, she said it could be literal or figurative. 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:35.119 Okay, yeah. 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:39.759 And it could be like transitioning from one part of your life to another part of your life. 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:40.160 Yeah. 00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:42.000 Um metaphorically makes sense. 00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:50.400 I did a watercolor of the Brooklyn Bridge, and that is me in the in the center with the uh the blue windbreaker on. 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:51.839 Wait, I want to see it again. 00:20:52.240 --> 00:21:05.039 I I have I saw it when it was in progress, but for our audio listeners, um or it is your watercolor skills never fail to amaze me, Dad. 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:06.160 You were so talented. 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:12.880 And I think we've talked about this, but you initially, when you went to CSU back in like, I don't know, 1973. 00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:16.559 Don't I don't that's not right, but you 70s? 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:20.000 I didn't wasn't in college in the 70s. 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:24.240 That would make me uh that would make me 70, 80 years old. 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.599 But um no, but you initially went to school. 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:31.359 I was an art major art major because my fresh junior in college. 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:35.359 My dad is so talented, but then ultimately ended up switching to business. 00:21:35.519 --> 00:21:43.839 And I've I just love that you're so intelligent and a great businessman, but also you're talented enough to paint a beautiful watercolor. 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:45.519 Death brain, right brain. 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:46.480 Definitely. 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:54.000 Yeah, so it um I I have extreme fatigue. 00:21:54.240 --> 00:22:17.119 Um so uh I think I saw a meme that that uh something The moment you see me where you think I might look good is only because I've rested for that occasion and I will crash after that occasion kind of thing. 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:26.799 So the thing with painting is I can do it sitting down, I can draw in bed, and it can be as little activity. 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.839 It can be as little as ten, it can be as little as ten minutes. 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:43.519 And I sorry, I don't mean to keep interrupting you, but I I also

want to remind our listeners because we've talked about this a lot on our podcast, but like and this can apply this applies to my dad, this could apply to me, this could apply to any human being. 00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:50.640 Like an illness illness does not always express itself through the exterior. 00:22:50.960 --> 00:23:00.640 So someone like someone or everyone is always carrying something, whether that's like some mental challenges or physical challenges. 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:06.640 And just because dad doesn't look like he has stage four cancer, he does. 00:23:07.039 --> 00:23:11.440 Um and so kind of back to your the point you made earlier. 00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:19.680 If you you know check in with dad, Sam, like you just ask how he's doing and don't take judge the book by the cover. 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:28.319 Yeah, no, um I do feel that I'm that death is not imminent. 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:33.119 You know, if it were, I I would have some of those maybe physical symptoms. 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:34.000 It's funny though. 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:52.079 One of the first questions they ask in my screening of my oncology appointments, and we're gonna we're gonna have a big segment on kind of cancer update because there's a lot going on, and I feel we need to first questions they ask is are uh uh have you lost weight recently? 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:54.079 Um au contraire. 00:23:54.880 --> 00:23:57.839 Um I've got a healthy appetite. 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:05.680 Um so yeah, I I have the appearance of someone that is not near the end with their cancer because I don't believe I'm near the end. 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:16.319 Um but uh yeah, as as always, we we kind of segue, uh segue on two different topics, but that's okay. 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:18.400 But we're talking about finding light and darkness. 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:31.359 So for me, taking up painting again and watercolors are uh a lot less time consuming and less effort than a canvas, you know, acrylic painting. 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:33.920 Um, although I've done a couple of those. 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:47.759 Um so uh looking forward to August 30th, there's there's like I said, there's a geek out um chat with Suleika and Anna Martinez Stapleton or Anna Stapleton Martinez. 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:50.000 I think it's Stapleton Martinez. 00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:55.359 Um and sorry to her for not having that on the tip of my tongue. 00:24:55.519 --> 00:25:17.599 But um that has been you know, I I just try and live by the book, quite literally, of between two kingdoms, just because she's got such a great attitude uh about cancer, her journey, and you know, uh doing what you can within the the limits of your body. 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:22.640 And this podcast is one of those where you know we're sitting down, we're gonna talk for an hour. 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:33.519 I will crash this afternoon, but that's okay because I this is this just gives me you know such light um uh in my life, and hopefully to some of our listeners. 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:40.480 Um I gotta cover one other quick thing, and I know Nikki's got a light, and she's had a lot of light this summer. 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:42.480 Palisade Peaches. 00:25:44.079 --> 00:25:45.759 Oh my effing god. 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:55.200 Okay, you know, I mean the the the heat this year we've talked about not being so great, but like I don't know, maybe it's done something for the peaches because you love it. 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:56.480 They're so good. 00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:05.519 I texted you yesterday because uh you gave me one of the peaches and I cut it up, put in, put them in Greek yogurt, granola, and honey. 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:06.880 Insane. 00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:09.359 So good, and like a healthy, like sweet snack. 00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:10.480 So healthier. 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:18.400 Um we have been on this peaches because they're they're the sweetest. 00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:21.839 They're they're the best peach. 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:26.319 I don't know if it's just because of you know what I'm going through and my taste buds. 00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:28.720 The peaches this year are insane. 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:29.759 They're so good. 00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.000 We have gone through like three cases of them. 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:35.599 Um, we have them every night, uh, you know, at night. 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:38.480 I've got a case in the kitchen that are are still a bit firm. 00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:40.960 I'm hoping by tonight they'll be soft enough. 00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:44.079 Because the a hard peach is like a hard, a hard pick. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.559 Either right, the exact right temperature. 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:55.119 And uh as opposed to a canned peach, which is like an abomination of God. 00:26:55.279 --> 00:27:01.039 Um you've got to have f these these fresh peaches. 00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:05.759 So I get uh I've gotten a lot of joy out of the Palisade Peaches this year. 00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:08.240 Yeah, but uh Nikki, how about you? 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:13.119 How you've I know you've found a lot of light in darkness this summer. 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:14.400 You've had a great summer. 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.880 I've had probably one of the busiest summers in a minute. 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:25.200 I didn't intend for it to be that way, other than I wanted to she's popular. 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:41.279 Dad, no, because I really wanted to make uh this year about intention and being really intentional on how I spend my time and the relationships that I have. 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:46.559 And um, I really value quality time with my family and friends. 00:27:46.880 --> 00:28:05.519 Um, I would these days, I would much rather go get coffee one-on-one with a friend or spend, you know, going over to their house for dinner and just like spending that quality time together in like a smaller group versus going to a large

party or something. 00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:12.079 Um, but this summer I have traveled all over for both business and personal reasons. 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:27.599 Um, on the business side, I had a trip to New York and I was really emotional about that because growing up after watching Devilwears Prada, and also through my journalism background I and in yearbook, I always wanted to work for a magazine. 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:32.480 And I thought I would work be, you know, working in New York uh one day at Vogue or something. 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:45.440 And obviously my career isn't there, but it was really fulfilling, and I was proud of myself for just having that opportunity and to conduct business in New York City was um a huge plus for me and just exciting. 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:47.839 Um, and then we also had a work trip. 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:53.599 Um, was able to go to Vermont and experience that state for the first time, which was so beautiful. 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:58.640 And Colin was able to meet me and we did a e-bike tour. 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.279 I don't I don't think I've done Vermont. 00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:03.680 It's it's gorgeous up there. 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:06.480 It it's East Coast, but it doesn't feel like the East Coast. 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.200 It kind of feels like a I've done a lot of Northeast. 00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:11.440 I I don't think I've done Vermont. 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:13.039 Yeah, it's go ahead. 00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:22.640 Uh a beautiful greenery on the water, um, a huge focus on sustainability and um just some really down-to-earth people as well. 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:24.079 I I really enjoyed that. 00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:31.200 But we did an e-bike tour um near Stowe, Vermont, and it was on an old railroad path. 00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:33.119 They've done a lot of that around the country. 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:36.240 Yeah, because old railroad paths into into bike paths. 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:36.799 Biking trails. 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:49.039 We uh Colin and I just had so much fun disconnecting and being outdoors, and I think we rode like 30 miles on the e-bike, which sounds like a lot, but when you are going 30 miles per hour. 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.039 Um And it's an e-bike, yeah. 00:29:51.200 --> 00:30:01.839 Yeah, but it was great to disconnect from uh nature in that way, and then I was able to go visit my really good friend Lily and her husband Matt out in Alaska. 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:07.519 Um, and I you know you caught yourself some big fish. 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:19.920 Well, I did, but backing up, I think I was really nervous about that trip because I get really motion sickness, and anyone who has motion sickness knows buses, planes, cars, boats. 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.079 Do you you get that from your grandma Marlene? 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:30.480 Do you do you know that Grandma Marlene would get uh seasick from watching a video of a boat on the water? 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:32.000 Oh no, I I would too. 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:33.440 It's gotten worse with age as well. 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:39.519 I didn't know that Grandma Marlene had it as well, but um I actually got prescribed medicine and I was like, you know what? 00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:43.119 I'm gonna take the opportunity, push myself out of my comfort zone. 00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:50.480 I'm gonna go fishing, I'm gonna go flying, and I'm just gonna really immerse myself in this adventure because why not? 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:58.960 Um, and I ended up not only having just such an amazing time with my friends and like that deep quality time to connect with them was so special to me. 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:10.960 But also just I really like this summer has really sparked my my love for nature again and just being outside and taking advantage of the beautiful world and all of that that has to offer. 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:12.319 So that was wonderful. 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:16.079 I caught a big, big fish, had one of those belt things on. 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.640 I felt like I was in Jaws, which makes no sense. 00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.960 I mean, it wasn't the ocean, but and I was like, you know, you have to hook it in to the belt. 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:24.960 And um I'm excited. 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.240 We were fishing for like seven hours. 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.680 Sorry, I had to throw in a jaws reference because Nikki Nikki mentioned uh Quint. 00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.039 Um you threw me off with the with your quote. 00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:38.400 You had the belt on. 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:45.839 Oh, yeah, had the belt on, and we were deep sea fishing at like 300 feet deep, and I I was just happy to be there. 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:53.200 Even if I didn't catch a fish, I was just so thrilled to have that opportunity and spend time with my friends, and it was amazing. 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:54.079 I loved it. 00:31:54.240 --> 00:32:02.160 Um, and then just last weekend I flew to Los Angeles to hang out with my best friend from high school, Alicia, and I love LA. 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:19.519 Like there's just such a creative atmosphere, and I know LA can also be like a little pretentious, and all the influencers are there, but um, I always feel really sparked and sparked from a creative standpoint when I visit LA, and also my cup is always filled when I visit Alicia. 00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.920 Like we can hang out for days upon days and not get sick of each other. 00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:29.839 Um, I've got I've got several of your friends that are my favorites, and and Alicia is certainly one of them. 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:31.200 I know, I know. 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:44.720 Um, so I have just been able to really I really find joy in traveling and also just disconnecting and spending quality time, and that's that's what I've been doing all summer, just traveling around. 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:46.240 Yeah, you've

had a lot of trips. 00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:46.799 Yes. 00:32:47.119 --> 00:33:03.039 Um it just it just has been busy, uh, which helps because we we we have a uh a monthly cadence here on the Butterfly Pavilion Podcast between between my energy and the energy it takes to to uh record and produce. 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:08.799 Um it I think it's a great cadence for us, but uh it sounds like an amazing summer. 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:13.279 I I I told you about my uh Alaska fishing trip. 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:29.519 Um this was back in holy cow, um late 80s, early 90s, and we took a couple of clients that's right on a I may have talked about this in a previous podcast, but we took them on a fishing boondoggle trip. 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:31.279 That's a really awesome experience. 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:32.319 Oh my god. 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.839 We we we did a day of deep sea fishing, we did a day of fly fishing on the Kenai. 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:48.079 Um, but the deep sea, I was kind of in the back of the boat, um, and the dogs are wanting to enter the chat, which is just fine because we have a dog-friendly chat. 00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.240 I was in the back of the boat and I didn't quite fully hear the instructions. 00:33:52.400 --> 00:34:05.279 So I my only point of reference was like marlin fishing, where you're like you, you're like, you know jerking the the rod and you're you're leaning in and and reeling and all that. 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:08.000 Yeah, because you definitely gotta hook them on there, you know. 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:28.960 I I had I had one or two uh fish on the line, but I I went with the marlin approach, and I learned later that you basically have to let the halibut fundamentally just swallow uh the bait uh for a minute or two, and then it's just an easy reel-in. 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.960 But there's a little kid on his boy uh on the boat playing it on his Game Boy. 00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:34.559 He he caught a fish. 00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:35.679 I did not. 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.440 Um the kid with the Game Boy. 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:40.239 Yeah, he was he was playing on his Game Boy all day long. 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.280 He came out in the last 30 minutes, caught a fish, and I was out there all day. 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.760 Well, last last thing about Alaska because it's amazing. 00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:49.840 I well also wildlife. 00:34:50.000 --> 00:35:02.800 I I saw so much wildlife, and also it was sunny the whole time we were there because my other best gal friend, Leanne and I, went and we just kept I just kept joking, like the sun's out because we're here. 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:08.880 But Lily was like, it's never like this, it's never sunny this long. 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:13.119 And up there in the summer, the sun doesn't set until 11 p.m. 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:15.679 So it just kind of messes with you. 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:17.920 But we depending on the time of the year. 00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:18.559 For sure. 00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.400 Um, but only in the summertime. 00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:30.400 Um, but we went to like a wildlife conservatory and we saw bears, we saw moose, um, elk, we saw a white wolf, which was super cool. 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:35.679 Um, and then when we were fishing, it was a white wolf. 00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:41.280 What that's a that's a young Frankenstein reference. 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:41.760 Okay. 00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:42.960 I was like, huh? 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:44.639 We have movie quotes at the end of this thing. 00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:48.079 You said wolf, and I had to do the werewolf? 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.440 It reminded me of uh Wolf in Game of Thrones. 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.840 But anyway, like a dire wolf. 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:58.559 Um, but we were out fishing and we saw some whales, but they were really far away. 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:09.360 And the only reason why we were, you know, saw them essentially was because they they, you know, blew out of their air holes or whatever, and they made that sound, like the sh sound. 00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:13.440 And the whole time we were just like, we were drift fishing. 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.079 So we were literally in the Gulf of Alaska, okay? 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.840 And you know, whales are so massive and they can swim so fast. 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:23.840 So we also weren't trying to disrupt them by any means, but we were also fishing. 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:28.400 And on our way back, we're driving back to Whittier, which is where we docked out of. 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.280 And um, all of a sudden we see whales. 00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:39.119 And this whole time we were like, oh, we really just want to see the tail flip, you know, when the whale, when it would be awesome if we're gonna slapping on the water. 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:45.199 And the whole time we just kind of saw them like calm like up a little bit and down, but we never saw the full fin. 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:46.079 The full fin. 00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.920 And so we kind of got bored of the whales. 00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:49.440 Yeah, they're their tail. 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:49.920 You're right. 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.880 And we're on the way back and we're like, oh my gosh, the whales again. 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.719 And then we were like, oh my gosh, like it's gonna do the flip, it's gonna do the flip. 00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:01.519 And we were all like just staring intently, like driving back to Whittier. 00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:03.599 And the whale did the tail flip. 00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.480 And so we were all on the boat, like, yeah, like we're gonna do it. 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:11.599 Well, it like splat splashes the tail in the water, yeah, or flips it up in the air. 00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:21.679 Well, like it's when they're coming up for air, they they kind of come you know up to the surface, but then if they

really have that momentum, the tail comes up and it flips out of the water. 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:27.360 So I saw a whale tail flip, and it was just like the coolest thing ever. 00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:28.239 It was great. 00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:29.760 Wow, it was awesome. 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:31.199 Shout out, Lily and Matt. 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:31.599 Thanks. 00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:33.199 Well, and and great friends. 00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:33.519 Yeah. 00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.000 Um Leanne, you know, great, great friends of yours. 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:41.199 So I'm glad you're able to do that. 00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:41.519 Yeah. 00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:44.880 Sad because it continues because you've got you've got more. 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:47.920 You got a trip to Mexico City coming up. 00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:49.599 Yeah, to Mexico. 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:54.480 Um, we're gonna go to Cancun and Oaxaca, actually, which is close to Mexico City. 00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:56.239 I hope I pronounce that right. 00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:01.360 Because last time I talked to Grandpa Jim about it, he was like, that's not how you pronounce it. 00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:03.760 I was like, that's a hard one to pronounce. 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.119 It's spelled like O-A-X-A-C-A, I think. 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:07.519 Yeah. 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.440 I I won't begin to try and present it. 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:16.800 Yeah, anyways, but yeah, it's it's been good and yeah, I'm just excited for the the rest of the year. 00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:18.159 Super, super. 00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:26.239 Well, we want to um um a couple of other quick things I want to cover. 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:47.119 Um late one night I I entered Franzi, I say Franzi, I entered us into a uh America's favorite couple contest um just because I think she's an amazing caregiver and she is deserves her flowers and you know, going back to talking about the vibrancy of life experiences, etc. 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.159 Uh, we were second in the wild card. 00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:52.880 Um, so wanted to thank everybody that voted for us. 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:58.000 It was kind of fun to compete because I'm a salesperson, I'm competitive. 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.920 Um did I ever tell you the pink torpedo story? 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:04.639 Pink torpedo. 00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:05.519 No, I don't think so. 00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:06.639 I am so competitive. 00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:09.440 So we were on a president's club trip. 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.000 Um presidents club in college? 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:13.840 Or no for for work. 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:14.400 For work. 00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:30.639 Okay, like a sales sales thing for people that exceeded at their quotas uh with a company called Ascend Communications, which was ultimately bought by Lucent uh Technologies uh for$24 billion with a B. 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:38.079 Um probably one of the best companies I ever worked for, Fun'cause Companies did did pretty well there. 00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:54.079 But we were at President's Club, I think it was Hawaii, and yes, it was out drinking at the pool, and they had this water slide, and it wasn't super long, but it it was a pretty good-sized water slide in a smaller pool. 00:39:54.400 --> 00:40:04.320 So we got into this thing where we were uh timing each other on the fastest. 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.039 Because we were saw all these salespeople are so competitive. 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:21.760 So we got into this, you know, and and so at on that uh trip, um, I was going so fast they nicknamed me the Pink Torpedo because of my body and uh my red hair and pinkness. 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.079 Um yeah, your sunburnt skin or something. 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:27.360 This is the pink torpedoes new nickname you've left. 00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:32.480 I I haven't heard that story, which is hilarious and also very on brand for you. 00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:43.280 But I do remember the only reason why I remember this Hawaii trip is because I remember that you told us kids that you and Franzi were going to Hawaii, and I was like pissed that we weren't going. 00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:44.079 Oh, yeah. 00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:50.239 With like a beautiful glass plaque, and it was like President's Club Hawaii, and I was like, ugh. 00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:58.000 Well, I think I had promised somewhere along the line, I had either promised you or you had it in your head that I promised you a trip to Hawaii. 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:11.760 And so um that was probably in the in the era of of uh Lindsay Lohan's parent trap, uh, where you weren't fully on board yet with with stepmom. 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:19.199 So I go off to Hawaii with with uh my girlfriend at the time, uh, because I don't think we were engaged yet. 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.199 Um yeah, you were hella pissed. 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.519 Because I think we shipped you off to, I don't know. 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:25.760 I well, hey, you know what? 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:31.039 You and Franzi have provided a plethora of amazing trips and vacations. 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.239 So I'll I'll let the whole the president's club circa 2005 go. 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:36.559 Okay. 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:37.599 Yeah. 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:42.960 Well, that that could be a whole episode talking of our our trips around the world. 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:44.079 Oh my god, yeah, we should. 00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:47.360 We've done Florence, you've we did we've done London. 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:52.719 Uh I'm adding that to our podcast ideas because we do we love to travel together with family. 00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:54.480 Travel is a whole episode. 00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:55.199 Oh yeah. 00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:56.800 I'm writing it down now. 00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:02.079 So you know, thank you to those that voted uh for the pink the for the pink torpedo. 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:10.719

Um one one little quick other topic uh that we want to talk about is birds and bats. 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:14.480 Uh before we get into cancer. 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.320 Oh my gosh. 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.559 Um, I'm I'm trying to be mindful. 00:42:18.639 --> 00:42:21.199 I feel like I've been talking so much this episode, Dad. 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:25.920 Um I'm I'm trying I'm trying to improve and give you equal equal time. 00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:27.199 Well, thanks, Dad. 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:28.239 I appreciate it. 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:37.760 Um, but in our neighborhood this summer, um at dusk, because it's been so hot outside, that's like the only time we can really walk the dogs. 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:42.880 And I work East Coast hours, so I don't really get up to at four in the morning to walk Mac. 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:47.920 But at night I've started noticing there's been freaking bats flying around. 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.079 And it's not just like one or two. 00:42:50.320 --> 00:43:00.320 Every night there's like 50 bats flying around, and I am like, I love the spooky vibes, and tell me why like a bat is so much cooler to me than a bird. 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.639 I I I'm like, oh, the bats are so cute. 00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.760 Whereas a bird's I'm like, heck no, get me away. 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.559 Yeah, so I don't know why. 00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:23.679 Um and I should have pulled up a good uh you know, Frankens or a good uh uh vampire uh uh quote, but yeah, our neighborhood is is full of bats. 00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:27.679 And I don't know, I mean I've seen a bat before. 00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:29.920 The the the bats are everywhere. 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:31.920 I don't know what's going on with the bats. 00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:41.360 Well, because I did look it up, and obviously Colorado is known for having bats, but I feel like in this city has been an experience like I've been. 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.000 I don't think that's a well I don't think that's a well known fact. 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:45.840 I I don't know. 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.760 Um, but they do hunt at dusk, and I think they live in the abandoned hospital building back there. 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.400 Because only the creepy. 00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:56.800 Well, where else would they live? 00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.760 Like McCollin was like we we live we live near 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:11.440 Near a a uh CU campus uh used to have Anshut's, I think it was Anchutes, right around Ninth and Colorado in in Denver. 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:21.280 Uh they tore it down, so they created you know uh retail space, which we love because we've got a brand new well relatively brand new movie theater, et cetera, et cetera. 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:32.159 Um, but one of the buildings that they didn't tear down was this old dormit nurses dormitory, and and at night um it it looks creepy. 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:38.400 It like can you imagine just

being in an abandoned hospital and the pitch black in the middle of the night? 00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:45.360 There's totally ghosts in there, but again, it's not just like one or two bats, there's like 50 to 100. 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:53.039 So I think they live in the in the in the the ghost the the nurse ghost hospit hospital dormitory. 00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:54.719 Maybe we'll scope it out one night. 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.760 That's kind of like the pigeon building on Colfax. 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.880 There was an abandoned building on Colfax. 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:06.960 Uh Franzi's not here, she'd be able to tell me what it used to be, but it's not far just north of here. 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:11.440 And there was like 10 million pigeons that lived in this house. 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:12.320 See, no. 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:12.800 Yeah. 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:17.039 Well, and um, did you wash your hands after that? 00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:19.119 I would not step foot in that box. 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.840 That sounds like my work worst nightmare. 00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:26.719 But did we talk about how I got chased by a crow? 00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.480 Um recently? 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:32.000 Yes, dad. 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:33.039 Oh no, we have not. 00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:47.840 Okay, I'm about to dive into this because in the Purple Delight episode, we talked about the origin of your fear of birds, and that was riding on Purple Delight under the viaduct and and having the birds you thought attacking you. 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:50.000 So, well, just just wait. 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.159 This would only happen to me, right? 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.360 Someone who is already afraid of birds don't like them. 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:56.719 This was earlier in the summer. 00:45:56.800 --> 00:46:00.079 I'm walking Mac outside, normal route, nothing crazy. 00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:05.760 All of a sudden, a crow who's like double the size of my head dive bombs me. 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:11.039 I'm obviously freaking out because that's scary, right? 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:13.840 So I'm like, okay, uh, don't know what that was. 00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:14.880 I'm gonna keep going. 00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:16.480 I cross the street with Mac. 00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:19.440 Um, it dive bombs me again. 00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:22.400 So at this point, I'm freaking out, okay? 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.519 If you can just imagine me like with Mac. 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:28.320 Also, there's no one around, by the way, somehow. 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.559 There's nobody outside or no witnesses to the situation. 00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.840 Um did you have some like goldfish crackers in uh in your open backpack that they were doing? 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:50.400 It was just me, and I was like, I had just gotten my nails done, like a chrome color, and so I was like, does is it chasing me because crows like shiny things, I think, and maybe it was nesting, or I don't know. 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:55.360 It proceeds to chase me for six blocks. 00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:57.039 Oh my god. 00:46:57.679 --> 00:46:59.280 I'm freaking out. 00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:00.320 I start running. 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:06.960 I was like, I am close to this dye bombing crowd, like right by my head. 00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:08.639 I thought it was going within a few feet. 00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:10.400 Yes, dad, if not more. 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:13.599 I was so scared, I was like, this is a bad omen. 00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:14.880 I am cursed. 00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:16.480 Maybe it's the hair. 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.840 That's the other thing because crows, I've looked this up, trust me. 00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:21.840 They're really smart, they remember people. 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:26.079 Also, when my my hair was down like it is now, I'm easy to spot. 00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:27.119 I'm easy to find. 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:39.760 I think either they are related to the the pigeons in Decoven Park when you were writing Purple Delight as a kid, or they listened to that episode and they know that you have a fear of birds. 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:41.119 I so yes, I'm freaking out. 00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:42.159 I'm fear. 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.199 I almost had to knock on somebody, a stranger's door. 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:46.800 Okay, that's how scared I was. 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:50.639 Meanwhile, at the very end, because I start running, okay, but it's a bird. 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:52.880 It's it's flying everywhere, it's following me. 00:47:53.119 --> 00:48:01.360 I hid hid behind a dumpster in an alley, freaking out, almost to the point of crying, but then Max also freaked out, obviously. 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.960 And I call Colin and I'm like, oh my god, like this crow is chasing me. 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:05.920 Like, I don't know what to do. 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:10.480 And I was speaking so fast, I fear took over, and Colin thought a human was chasing me. 00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:13.199 And I was like, no, it was a freaking crow. 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.920 So I finally like got back to my house. 00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:22.079 So did he find the that story funny or was he sympathetic? 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:22.719 Oh no. 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:24.000 Or a combination of both. 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.480 At first, of course, Colin's amazing. 00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:27.920 He was super sympathetic. 00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:32.400 He wanted to ensure that I was okay because I was genuinely freaked out. 00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:34.239 I also was like, I'm cursed. 00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:35.280 Why is this happening to me? 00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.280 It's a I've seen too many horror movies. 00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:43.199 Um, but then we did look it up, and around the beginning of the summer is when the crow's mating seasons are. 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.719 So if you get too close to a nest, they will do

that. 00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:51.840 They are known to follow you and they will will remember you if you come back. 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.000 So I have not walked that same route. 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.440 Stay away from the nest. 00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:56.960 Well, how was I supposed to know? 00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:57.360 I don't know. 00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:59.119 I'm no, I'm just I'm trying to figure out. 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.199 Yeah, anyways, that would only happen to me. 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:02.559 How to prevent it in the future. 00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:04.239 Crows, thumbs down. 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:04.480 Yeah. 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:06.079 Bats, thumbs up. 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.599 Yeah, bats, very cool. 00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:17.440 Franzi's got a Franzi downloaded the the bird app that will tell you what bird happens to be chirping or singing in the neighborhood. 00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:18.960 Alicia also has that app. 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.440 Mildly infatuated with birds as well, because she downloaded an app. 00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:25.360 Could it be me, Franzi? 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:26.320 Could it be me? 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:32.239 Yeah, so um time, I think, to give a page four update. 00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:33.119 Yes. 00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:33.920 Page four. 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.559 Page four cancer update. 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:43.119 Yeah, so we call it page four uh because it's stage four cancer and play on words, I guess. 00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:59.119 Um I believe we talked about doing a trial in the Wonder Years episode that I had my siblings on, which was awesome to have childhood stories uh with my siblings. 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:11.119 Um, and as we consistently talk about on the podcast, PSA is is something that you men should be getting tested as an indicator or potential indicator for prostate cancer. 00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.199 All men get your PSA tested. 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:13.840 Yes. 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:20.079 Um, but it is also a barometer of sorts um for cancer activity. 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.039 So uh I get measured often. 00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:36.159 Um we were going to do a Merck trial earlier in the summer, or yeah, six six, seven months ago, because my PSA had dropped in the danger zone. 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:40.000 My PSA, or no, my PSA was rising, rather. 00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:45.679 PSA dropped, so I was no longer eligible for the trial, but that's good news. 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:54.639 So any any quarter you can go with PSA in normal range, which means typically cancer is not active or growing, is a good thing. 00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:59.920 Um so once again it started to rise, and so we had to game plan with Dr. 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:11.119 Eiley and uh UC Health and the great people at uh CU Anchutes Cancer Center and uh decided on a immunotherapy trial. 00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:22.559 We had started that, and in fact, um I think my favorite um Instagram reel is the Jojo Rabbit dance scene. 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:24.079 So you will have to check that out. 00:51:24.239 --> 00:51:28.320 We'll we will link it in the podcast or peruse our podcast. 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:40.639 So Nikki came down one day for one of my infusions and and uh you know to add light and darkness that day, we did a play on the the the the end of the movie Jojo Rabbit, which you've just gotta see it. 00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:51.840 But uh I can't words can't describe the end of that movie, and um it was a lot of fun doing a uh a uh cancer infusion chair dance. 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.440 Um choreography. 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:54.239 Choreography. 00:51:55.440 --> 00:52:06.320 Um things, you know, I I I did the step-up doses, did the full dose, and there's a ton of testing, ton of imaging, ton of blood work. 00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:07.679 A lot of time at the hospital. 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:09.360 A lot of time at the hospital. 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:15.679 There's one day that I'm there like every day of the week, um, and that certainly takes a toll on my body. 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:33.599 But I my litter numbers were out of whack, uh like way out of whack, um, to the point where uh, and he labeled this as autoimmune hepatitis, which sounds really scary, um, and it can be very serious. 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:41.360 Um, so it's essentially my body's immune system was attacking the liver, um, which is not good. 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:43.760 So we immediately halted treatment. 00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:47.679 I was very excited because I was going in for my next treatment, met with Dr. 00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.559 Eiley's like, hey, your liver numbers are off. 00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.599 We gotta evaluate what's happening. 00:52:54.079 --> 00:53:01.519 Not just pump the brakes, we gotta park the car in the in the lot um to get these liver numbers back in order. 00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:06.159 So it's been, gosh, I'd want to say over a month. 00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:23.599 They put me on a lung antibacterial and like 80 milligrams of steroids prednisone every day, um, which has its own nuances because 10 milligrams will wire me. 00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.360 Um, so you definitely need to take that in the morning. 00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.559 Um, but sleep just all of a sudden just wrecked me. 00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:33.280 But I was that high. 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:35.119 80 milligrams is a lot. 00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.039 It's a lot of freaking pregnancy. 00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:43.199 So you know, I was just amped out of my freaking mind on uh the prednisone. 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:48.159 Um good news was that it it did give me energy during the day. 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:52.880 Um, you know, but it was it was a drug energy. 00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:56.559 Um, and then at night I had uh you know quite a hard time sleeping. 00:53:56.639 --> 00:53:58.320 So I've been tapering off that. 00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.800 The

numbers did eventually go down. 00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:02.000 Uh news. 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:10.159 Give me great news as of like um but it freaked me out because the the that week was a setback. 00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:31.599 No, it was a setback, but I think we met Eiley on a Tuesday or a Thursday and had the funeral for my half-brother that Friday, and part of um is a long story, but one of the things you know it was liver failure, uh, among a few other body things that were shutting down. 00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:38.320 So I get this, you know, you know, the portal is good is good, it can be bad. 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.320 You know, good is you get news right away and you get a lot of detail. 00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:51.599 Bad is you can your mind can go crazy and inter misinterpret or let your imagination run while imagination run wild. 00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:56.559 But it's like what is wrong with you on the internet via WebMD? 00:54:56.639 --> 00:55:14.960 And it's just uh causes a a spiral because it's like it's cool that you have access to all of this information in the portal, but then at the same time, I think it's like we have to I say we, but like approach it with caution and understand like maybe checking it right before you go to bed isn't the best idea. 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:16.079 Right, right. 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:48.960 Well, it it was a mind fuck because I literally, you know, had this celebration of life on Friday, and I in within a day of getting this news, so my my mind goes crazy, and you know, I'm you know, because there were a lot of same words that were used, but it was the this this was a different, it it very specifically was this autoimmune hepatitis, which again sounds very, very, very bad and serious, and it can be unless it's treated. 00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.000 Good news is that my numbers are now back in range. 00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:59.519 So as of uh this recording date, uh you know, three days ago, I did get a portal message. 00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:02.800 It's eight August 23rd, by the way. 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.239 August 23rd. 00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:05.840 What is August 23rd? 00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:06.880 You said today. 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.440 Oh I was just we might post this later. 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.719 Yes, we're recording August 23rd, but it was been, you know, the 21st. 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:15.119 Dr. 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:25.840 Eiley sends me a note, and the uh drug sponsor, which happens to be Johnson and Johnson, came back and said, yo, you're eligible, go back on the trial. 00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:35.840 Uh which is great because you know, the being on the steroids, you know, I was fundamentally on not on any cancer treatment. 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:40.639 So you know, I often talk about playing offense, playing defense. 00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:47.599 To me, it was it it also was stressful because I'm not treating my cancer right now. 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:55.119 Well, it's like it was defensive in a way, but like one part of the field versus, you know. 00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:03.840 Yeah, we had to, we had to there was a little force fire that that cropped up with this hepatitis that we that we had to address. 00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:05.599 Um Yeah. 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:11.199 Um so we are on schedule to do another ramp up. 00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:14.960 Unfortunately, we got to ramp up again to that 300 milligrams. 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:25.280 Um uh so that is I believe middle of September, um, where I will pick up the infusions again. 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:35.199 So yeah, I'm excited about that, you know, because you know, right now I'm not treating my cancer, and the PSA has risen. 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:43.119 And we've been testing weekly um for on primarily on the liver numbers, but they test PSA while they're doing that. 00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:48.639 Um PSA has started to rise, so I'm up in the six range, which makes me nervous. 00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:53.360 But they also said as part of the trial you have to be at a certain range. 00:57:53.679 --> 00:58:01.280 Well, no, they for the trial sp specifically don't focus on the PSA, they want to focus on the images. 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:08.000 Uh because we did we did baseline images, so I had a uh um three different images. 00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:19.920 I think a pet, a uh an MRI, and a C T I think were the three, because they want to get a you know photograph or snapshot of where's the cancer. 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:33.280 Um and good news is there's no new areas, um, which is great, but it you know, I think we've covered before it's prostate that's metastasized a bone. 00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:39.039 I've got it, you know, in several areas, too many areas to to use radiation as an option. 00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:58.800 So um it's kind of been an up and down and emotional uh five, six weeks with all that going on, but um we are excited because the trial is is uh gonna be resuming you know kind of a w the week after Labor Day. 00:58:59.360 --> 00:58:59.599 Yeah. 00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:01.119 No, it's which is awesome. 00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:16.239 Yeah, I think it's given us some hope, and um I'm so glad that we're able to have access to this trial and some progressive medicine, and um we'll we'll go from there. 00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.400 But we're we're back on track, so that's good. 00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:19.039 Yeah. 00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:23.199 Um we're almost at our hour of ginger power. 00:59:23.679 --> 00:59:27.679 We are, which brings us to one of my favorite segments. 00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:29.679 Movie quotes. 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.400 Movie quotes, and we don't have a jingle for that. 00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:33.920 I know that was my made-up jingle. 00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:35.599 Do movie quotes quotes. 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:43.360 We'll have to hit up to hit up Uncle Tim for a movie quote jingle because the fan mail one is is just

awesome. 00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:45.599 Uh as I shift in the in the chair. 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.400 So this is where I I pull up movie quotes. 00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:55.599 Nikki does not know what they are, she has to guess them, um, which I have a lot of fun with. 00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:58.159 I think some of our listeners may have fun with. 00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:02.400 And as always, I try and some of them might be easy for you. 01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:05.199 Um might be a little more difficult. 01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:05.760 See. 01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:06.320 We'll see. 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:07.039 I'm ready. 01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:07.519 Bring it on. 01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:08.719 I've got two. 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.159 Yeah, I've got two from the first movie. 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:12.800 Okay. 01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:16.960 If I were king of the fourth. 01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:24.000 Your Majesty, if you were king, you wouldn't be afraid of anything. 01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:26.000 Not nobody, not know how. 01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:27.760 Not a rhinoceros? 01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:28.880 Imposterous. 01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:30.639 What about a hippopotamus? 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:33.760 Well, I'd thrash him from top to bottom us. 01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:38.559 Supposing you met an elephant, I'd wrap him up in cellophant. 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:42.719 And and two quotes? 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:48.159 Th those are the oh, I've got a sec oh Well, a different the second quote was the same movie? 01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:49.199 A second quote. 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:51.360 Yeah, I do have a second and second one. 01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:53.280 I think it's from the same character. 01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:54.639 Put 'em up, put em up. 01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:55.920 Which one of you first? 01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:57.119 I'll fight both of you. 01:00:57.599 --> 01:00:58.480 Both of you together. 01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:01.119 I'll fight ya with one paw tied behind my back. 01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:03.440 Um, is this the jungle book? 01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:04.320 Oh, Jesus. 01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:05.119 Did I get it? 01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.280 This this is a three-foot pot. 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:08.000 No. 01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.039 I didn't- wait, I didn't get it? 01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:12.880 No, this is not jungle book. 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:13.840 Okay, keep going. 01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:14.320 Damn it. 01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:16.000 Those are the two quotes. 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:17.440 Oh, oh, oh, oh. 01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:19.119 Um, Princess Brad? 01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:21.840 One of Grandma Merlene's favorite movies. 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:23.599 Okay, well, I'm I'm over two. 01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:24.960 Oh my god. 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:26.320 Wizard of Oz. 01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:27.760 Oh my god. 01:01:27.920 --> 01:01:28.800 Are you serious? 01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:31.119 King of the forest. 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:34.559 How did you not know that that line? 01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:36.800 I I love the Wizard of Oz. 01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:38.079 I have seen it so many times. 01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:40.800 Tell me why I just I I botched that. 01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:42.320 I botched it. 01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:44.159 Okay. 01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:47.840 I thought that was gonna be I thought that was gonna be the easy one. 01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:50.079 All right, well shoot. 01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.559 Well, we're so let's move on to the second movie. 01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:53.840 All right. 01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:57.840 Uh walk right, safe side. 01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:01.760 Walk left, safe side. 01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:05.440 Walk middle, sooner or later, squish. 01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:08.320 Get to squish just like grape. 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:14.320 Is there another second quote? 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:17.920 Wax on right hand. 01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:20.159 Wax off left hand. 01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:22.480 Wax on, wax off. 01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:25.679 Breathe into nose, out the mouth. 01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:27.119 Karate kid? 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:28.239 That is karate kid. 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.400 Woo! I got it! Okay, karate. 01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:32.880 I I I am not gonna apologize. 01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:34.880 There was a slight accent. 01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:43.039 Um, you know, I I I do believe that uh appropriating accents is racist. 01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:51.119 Um, you know, but if a comedian was doing a karate quote kit, you know, quote, you you I anyway. 01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.559 Thanks for the classification, dad, that you're not a racist. 01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:55.119 Yeah. 01:02:55.360 --> 01:03:04.159 You you know you're not a racist when you are racist when you say, well, I'm not a racist, but um yeah, so I I I was that was Patrick. 01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:06.719 So that was Pat Merida. 01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:10.800 Um how did I get the difficult one and not the easy one? 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:11.840 Um, don't know. 01:03:11.920 --> 01:03:16.239 But I were like the wax on, wax off quote is pretty famous. 01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:19.760 So that's when and it also sounded like training to me. 01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:24.159 So and I I had a feeling because that's a pretty popular movie that I could I feel like you would pick. 01:03:24.239 --> 01:03:26.159 So well, I thought put 'em up, put em up. 01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:27.280 Which one are you first? 01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:28.559 I'll find your books together. 01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:29.440 Lyon. 01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:30.000 I got that now. 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:34.159 Anyway. 01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:35.199 It was pretty good. 01:03:36.800 --> 01:03:39.440 Yeah, well, that that is this week's movie quotes. 01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:45.280 Nikki, anything you want to end this uh week's dad. 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:47.039 Well, thank you. 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:52.480 No, this was I know it's been a busy summer and it's great to have you in the studio. 01:03:52.719 --> 01:03:54.559 Um, we have studio lights this week. 01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:55.119 I know. 01:03:55.360 --> 01:04:01.119 I actually arrived today and dad, we had a our whole setup ready to go. 01:04:01.280 --> 01:04:07.199 I was pretty impressed with the the addition of the lighting and um this week in front of the old man painting. 01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.599 And no, yeah, we we love this old man painting. 01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:13.599 And I I did I didn't officially cry today, but I do have our cry jar. 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:24.880 I was getting a little teary-eyed just because I'm I'm really proud of you for the resiliency and strength that you you bring to the family and also just your outlook on life is is really inspiring. 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:29.760 So I I did get a little teary-eyed, but I didn't want to not quite cry jar. 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:30.800 Not quite level. 01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:32.400 But I it it was good. 01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:42.320 You you hit it well because of course I would I was trying to face the audience camera, and you have you know, going back and forth, but excellent. 01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:50.000 Well, I think we can wrap uh this week's this week's this month's episode of the Butterfly Favilion. 01:04:50.159 --> 01:04:51.679 Thanks as always for tuning in. 01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:52.880 Thank you so much. 01:04:53.920 --> 01:05:01.360 You can see us within the month on social of the media at Butterfly Pavilion Pod on the TikTok and Instagram. 01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:02.320 Yeah, thanks so much. 01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:02.960 We'll see you next time. 01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:03.679 Thanks so much. 01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:04.559 Bye.