Full Transcript for Buckeye Central: Can Ohio State BOUNCE BACK against Oregon

really make sense. 37 00:01:43.819 --> 00:01:46.659 How is Bama ranked at number five? That's the big 38 00:01:46.700 --> 00:01:49.219 head scratcher that everyone wants to know. How is Texas 39 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:51.400 ranked at seven when they have wins over 10, 12, 40 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:55.200 and 13? Stuff of that nature when they're both six 41 00:01:55.239 --> 00:01:59.909 and two SEC teams. And then how are some teams... 42 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:04.120 Like UCLA, undefeated UCLA at eight. I understand strength of schedule, 43 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:08.520 but they're winning convincingly against the teams they have. The 44 00:02:08.539 --> 00:02:10.680 teams on their schedule, I think, they have technically two 45 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:14.560 currently ranked wins. Oregon's ranked, but I don't know. Northwestern's 46 00:02:14.599 --> 00:02:15.219 not ranked, right? 47 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:18.900 They beat USC, didn't they? 48 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.259 They play USC later in the year. That's right. They 49 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.490 have a chance to have two ranked wins if they 50 00:02:26.509 --> 00:02:28.310 go and beat USC at the end of the year. 51 00:02:28.509 --> 00:02:31.949 But even certain scenarios of like How is Ohio State 52 00:02:32.090 --> 00:02:34.830 eight spots behind Indiana when they beat Indiana? How is 53 00:02:34.969 --> 00:02:38.580 Tennessee eight spots behind Bama when they beat down Bama? 54 00:02:38.979 --> 00:02:41.060 How is– or you can even go on the flip 55 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.500 side of it for a not-so-good side for Ohio State. 56 00:02:43.539 --> 00:02:46.139 How is USC eight spots behind Ohio State when they 57 00:02:46.580 --> 00:02:49.800 beat down Ohio State this past week? And all these 58 00:02:49.860 --> 00:02:51.639 records are 6-2, so it's like you've got a bunch 59 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:55.259 of 6-2 teams, 7-1 style teams, and it's like what 60 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:57.770 do you do with them? And all of it's– like 61 00:02:57.810 --> 00:03:01.110 I guess my– thing to the fans. Don't get worked 62 00:03:01.150 --> 00:03:03.909 up over the first rankings. It's going to sort itself 63 00:03:03.930 --> 00:03:07.180 out on the field. I kind of wish they waited 64 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.060 a little bit more to do the rankings, but I 65 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:12.060 guess there's some positives coming out of it. Notre Dame, 66 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:14.960 they're getting penalized for not playing a schedule. Them being 67 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.580 the 11 seed, that was a shocker to me, but 68 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:20.020 I'm glad that it's happened. If they lose against Miami, 69 00:03:20.060 --> 00:03:23.210 I think there's no way they get into the cultural playoff. 70 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.469 So that eliminates it right there. 10-2 Notre Dame, that's 71 00:03:26.509 --> 00:03:30.060 what that ranking said tonight. If 10-2 Notre Dame happens, 72 00:03:30.080

--> 00:03:34.000 they're not making the playoffs. If Ohio State takes care 73 00:03:34.020 --> 00:03:36.340 of business against Oregon this week, they can move up 74 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:39.719 substantially in this list because the 11th seed Notre Dame 75 00:03:39.740 --> 00:03:44.819 plays Miami, 10th seed Ole Miss plays Georgia, 9th seed 76 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:47.849 BYU plays Utah. There's a bunch of ranked matchups ahead 77 00:03:47.870 --> 00:03:49.469 of Ohio State, so if they take care of business 78 00:03:49.789 --> 00:03:52.090 and let everything else play out, they'll move right back 79 00:03:52.129 --> 00:03:55.409 into a conversation. Taking care of business is step number one. 80 00:03:55.490 --> 00:03:59.370 That's the hardest part. Hardest thing to do after what 81 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:00.289 you saw last week. 82 00:04:01.409 --> 00:04:04.030 It is. But the same, as you said, everything is 83 00:04:04.069 --> 00:04:05.909 in front of them. If they went out, they're going 84 00:04:05.930 --> 00:04:07.750 to be in the CFP. There's no ifs, ands, or 85 00:04:07.789 --> 00:04:10.689 buts about it. I will say what this ranking told me, 86 00:04:10.750 --> 00:04:13.090 because the G5 or G6 has to be in this. 87 00:04:13.490 --> 00:04:16.250 That would be Boise at 12. Ohio State, if the 88 00:04:16.290 --> 00:04:20.050 CFP started today, would not be in. That tells me, 89 00:04:20.069 --> 00:04:22.870 because we've talked about this. I think everyone else, everyone 90 00:04:22.889 --> 00:04:25.550 and their mama has talked about it. Is there potential 91 00:04:25.589 --> 00:04:28.060 for a 9-3 Ohio State to make it in? At 92 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.519 this point, no, there's not. If you're the last team 93 00:04:30.620 --> 00:04:32.860 out as a two-loss team, if you get that third 94 00:04:32.899 --> 00:04:36.839 loss within the last month, you're not coming back from this. 95 00:04:37.579 --> 00:04:40.189 If Oregon was what they were and, like, say you 96 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:42.649 beat Oregon and you beat a ranked Northwestern, but then 97 00:04:42.670 --> 00:04:44.230 you drop a game on the road to Nebraska by 98 00:04:44.250 --> 00:04:47.329 a field goal, maybe. But with how the schedule lines 99 00:04:47.389 --> 00:04:49.910 up right now, there's no way. And to kind of 100 00:04:49.949 --> 00:04:53.730 touch on your point, I get this is the first 101 00:04:53.769 --> 00:04:56.120 week and things will take care of itself. I get it. 102 00:04:56.860 --> 00:05:01.959 I just hate– Like the disparity and how inconsistent. 103 00:05:02.579 --> 00:05:02.860 It is. 104 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:05.980 Like you say Notre Dame gets penalized for not playing 105 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.759 a schedule. Why is Miami number one? Why is Utah 106 00:05:08.779 --> 00:05:10.839 three with the number 83 ranked to shrink the schedule? 107 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:16.500 Why is Alabama eight spots ahead of Tennessee, but BYU 108 00:05:16.540 --> 00:05:20.709 is ahead of Notre Dame? Same with Ohio State and USC. 109 00:05:21.589 --> 00:05:23.790 I understand you're not going to make everyone happy. You're 110 00:05:23.810 --> 00:05:27.660 just not. But you have to be consistent. you're not 111 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:29.980 going to make people highly being consistent, but that's the 112 00:05:30.019 --> 00:05:31.959 best way to do it. I would say probably 75 113 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:35.699 to 80% of college football fans. If the committee, if 114 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:38.199 they were bad, but they just stuck their guns and said, 115 00:05:38.220 --> 00:05:40.560 this is where we're going to stick to this. I 116 00:05:40.579 --> 00:05:42.860 think 80 to 90% of the college football nation would 117 00:05:42.899 --> 00:05:45.660 be like, okay, like I get it. I at least understand. 118 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:50.699 Yeah. I maybe, yes. One thing I want to say 119 00:05:50.740 --> 00:05:53.730 to everyone out there that's saying the rankings are flat out, terrible, horrendous. 120 00:05:53.790 --> 00:05:56.060 It's like, make your own rankings and, and kind of 121 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:58.339 see how hard it is to place those teams. I'll 122 00:05:58.379 --> 00:06:01.899 be devil's advocate in that nature because I've been in 123 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:03.319 a scenario where you feel like you have to put 124 00:06:03.370 --> 00:06:04.910 out a top 25 poll, and it's like, oh, my God, 125 00:06:04.970 --> 00:06:06.449 this is actually a lot harder than it feels like. 126 00:06:07.610 --> 00:06:09.149 It's easy to pick one team that should be higher 127 00:06:09.170 --> 00:06:11.029 than another team, but it's hard to put together your 128 00:06:11.050 --> 00:06:13.209 own top 25 poll and be consistent as well. So 129 00:06:13.370 --> 00:06:17.199 that's the part that they're running into, and there's certain 130 00:06:17.220 --> 00:06:18.660 metrics that are going to work for some teams and 131 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:20.779 they're not going to work for others. I'm not saying 132 00:06:20.800 --> 00:06:23.500 the rankings are great. I obviously don't agree with a 133 00:06:23.540 --> 00:06:25.439 lot of the rankings. I would do it a little differently. 134 00:06:26.139 --> 00:06:27.490 But we're not in the room, so we don't really 135 00:06:27.500 --> 00:06:30.790 know what those conversations truly look like. But at the 136 00:06:30.829 --> 00:06:32.850 end of the day, like you said, the road is 137 00:06:32.910 --> 00:06:35.089 ahead of Ohio State. They control their own destiny. They 138 00:06:35.129 --> 00:06:37.589 went out. They go into the Big Ten Championship. I 139 00:06:37.610 --> 00:06:40.730 don't care how that game goes unless they get beat 140 00:06:40.750 --> 00:06:44.750 by 50. They're going to be in the playoffs unless 141 00:06:44.769 --> 00:06:47.350 they get beat by 50 somehow, unless they get that 142 00:06:47.430 --> 00:06:51.730 Illinois FDU-type score from last

night on basketball where it 143 00:06:51.750 --> 00:06:54.410 was 120-45. You know what I'm talking about? Something of 144 00:06:54.470 --> 00:06:56.970 that nature. I'm like, Ohio State will not drop out 145 00:06:56.990 --> 00:06:59.209 of the playoffs unless something of that nature happens in 146 00:06:59.230 --> 00:07:02.970 the Big Ten Championship. But I don't want to look ahead, though, 147 00:07:03.810 --> 00:07:05.759 because they still have four games they have to go 148 00:07:05.779 --> 00:07:08.259 on the field and win. And after that USC outing, 149 00:07:08.699 --> 00:07:10.720 even Ryan Day said it, they better turn it around 150 00:07:10.980 --> 00:07:11.620 really quickly. 151 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:16.430 Yeah, and they've got a good chance this week. Oregon 152 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:18.430 is now ranked number 23 in the country. So it's 153 00:07:18.449 --> 00:07:19.730 going to be number 23 Oregon versus number 24, or 154 00:07:19.750 --> 00:07:22.439 not 24, Number 12, Ohio State. 155 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:24.480 Would it be a night game now? 156 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:29.560 You know what? Fox hates the fans, so no. But 157 00:07:29.579 --> 00:07:33.750 it is number 23 versus number 12. Ryan Day wants 158 00:07:33.889 --> 00:07:38.089 a lot of urgency within this program. We heard it 159 00:07:38.290 --> 00:07:41.790 after the Texas loss. It's a lot different whenever you 160 00:07:41.810 --> 00:07:46.420 have two losses on your plate and you're facing essentially elimination. 161 00:07:47.500 --> 00:07:50.370 Ryan Day also talked about today how, yes, Oregon's 5-3. 162 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.839 You look at that roster, I don't care what you say. 163 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:55.759 That's the best roster in college football. On paper, that 164 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:58.699 is the best roster in college football with a top 165 00:07:58.699 --> 00:08:01.009 10 head coach in Dan Lanning. They're confident. 166 00:08:01.069 --> 00:08:03.209 It's the best roster without Dante more now, though. 167 00:08:04.350 --> 00:08:07.730 Well, considering that they're back and just threw for 333 touchdowns, 168 00:08:07.769 --> 00:08:09.410 no picks over a ranked Northwestern. 169 00:08:10.189 --> 00:08:10.410 Yeah. 170 00:08:11.509 --> 00:08:12.470 Yeah. Okay. 171 00:08:12.670 --> 00:08:15.060 That's fine. I just wanted to ask, pose the question. 172 00:08:15.069 --> 00:08:15.649 That's all it is. 173 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:21.100 But this is, this is an interesting, like, especially after 174 00:08:21.139 --> 00:08:23.779 what Dylan Ryla did and how poor Ohio state played 175 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:29.879 around their young quarterback. It kind of scares me. I'll 176 00:08:29.899 --> 00:08:32.240 be honest, like going into USC, I was like, whatever, 177 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:33.759 like Oregon's dead in the water. And then they came 178 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:38.210 out and had a comeback win over Northwestern and the team, the, that, 179 00:08:38.230 --> 00:08:42.169 that team being Ohio state looked like utter what I'll 180 00:08:42.190 --> 00:08:45.570 be nice about this. Horrible. They look horrible against USC. 181 00:08:45.610 --> 00:08:48.450 And now, and now I'm like, I'm gonna scare you. 182 00:08:48.629 --> 00:08:49.029 I can't lie. 183 00:08:51.259 --> 00:08:55.370 I think there's... It's almost like, how fast can I 184 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:59.110 flip the script? Because last time, there's only been one 185 00:08:59.190 --> 00:09:01.929 game under the Ryan Day era outside of this USC 186 00:09:01.950 --> 00:09:05.350 game that really, you came away thinking, wow, they just, 187 00:09:05.870 --> 00:09:08.480 they got beat by a team they should not have 188 00:09:08.500 --> 00:09:12.500 been beaten by. Like, and they just played so awful 189 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.039 in that game as well. That happened against USC, and 190 00:09:16.059 --> 00:09:19.730 what happened against 2024 Michigan, where they were Ohio State 191 00:09:19.750 --> 00:09:22.409 was clearly the better team and did not win. I 192 00:09:22.450 --> 00:09:25.490 think Ohio State is clearly the better team. If they 193 00:09:25.529 --> 00:09:28.889 play again at USC even, I think Ohio State would 194 00:09:28.909 --> 00:09:31.409 still be favored going into that game, knowing what we know. 195 00:09:32.529 --> 00:09:34.620 I just don't think you're going to see an outcome 196 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:38.179 where you beat them in almost every box score statistic 197 00:09:38.779 --> 00:09:41.120 and you lose and have no chance of winning the game. 198 00:09:41.860 --> 00:09:43.860 That's something that's never going to happen again if Ohio 199 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.220 State plays USC. I still feel confident they would turn 200 00:09:46.259 --> 00:09:51.289 it around, but it's almost like What did that happen 201 00:09:51.470 --> 00:09:54.009 after that 2024 loss that really turned around? They had 202 00:09:54.049 --> 00:09:56.779 a bunch of sit-down only player meetings, and everyone had 203 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.519 to really take accountability and see what they had going forward. 204 00:10:00.059 --> 00:10:02.039 Is that happening for this week? I don't think so. 205 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:03.740 I don't think something like that can happen. You can't 206 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:05.659 do that in the middle of the season. They had 207 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.059 a lot of time in between their next game against 208 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.179 Tennessee that year when they end up eventually going on 209 00:10:11.210 --> 00:10:13.950 the national championship run. You just don't have the time 210 00:10:13.990 --> 00:10:17.409 to do that because you're preparing for Oregon to come 211 00:10:17.450 --> 00:10:20.370 to Columbus here– what is it now four or five 212 00:10:20.409 --> 00:10:23.720 days so like that Ohio State doesn't have time to 213 00:10:23.750 --> 00:10:27.240 do

that how do they bounce back Ryan Day's been 214 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:30.480 good on bounce back like he doesn't have back-to-back losses 215 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:33.860 outside of the Indiana Miami game that's his only back-to-back 216 00:10:33.899 --> 00:10:37.059 losses in his head coaching career which is a testament 217 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:40.279 to him um but how do you bounce back here 218 00:10:40.299 --> 00:10:41.899 because this is a big one and if you get 219 00:10:42.019 --> 00:10:45.149 Oregon It's kind of like what we said against USC. 220 00:10:45.509 --> 00:10:47.769 The road ahead feels a little easier if you get one. 221 00:10:48.190 --> 00:10:51.269 You don't want to– if it stumbles again back-to-back, this 222 00:10:51.320 --> 00:10:52.120 could get ugly quick. 223 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:57.399 It could. And the best way– you touched on it. 224 00:10:57.419 --> 00:10:59.100 The best way to build some momentum is win the game. 225 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:01.820 Win the game over a good football team. If they– 226 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:06.570 like with the snowball effect– It can be like, hey, 227 00:11:06.870 --> 00:11:08.769 they go in there and look like trash against Oregon, 228 00:11:08.950 --> 00:11:11.169 and they lose and just tumbles and tumbles, and you're 229 00:11:11.190 --> 00:11:12.350 looking at 7-5-8-4. 230 00:11:12.450 --> 00:11:14.389 You might see some coaches and players starting to give 231 00:11:14.429 --> 00:11:16.610 up on this team if that happens too, and that's 232 00:11:16.730 --> 00:11:17.450 crazy to say. 233 00:11:18.590 --> 00:11:20.889 Well, I don't think you're going to this week at least. 234 00:11:21.129 --> 00:11:23.000 Ryan Day was fiery today, dude. I don't know if 235 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:25.539 you watched the press conference. He was fiery. He's got 236 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:28.720 a quote here when he was asked about Oregon. He said, 237 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:30.639 so we've got to get those things fixed, those being 238 00:11:30.659 --> 00:11:33.740 the mistakes, and feel the urgency of that because this 239 00:11:33.779 --> 00:11:35.990 is a very, very good team. We can't sit here 240 00:11:36.009 --> 00:11:38.210 and dwell on what's gone on in the past. We 241 00:11:38.250 --> 00:11:43.029 better learn from it pretty damn quick though. I know 242 00:11:43.049 --> 00:11:48.659 this is my first year on the beat. This, but like, dude, 243 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:52.159 like that, that fired me up. You didn't see Ryan day, 244 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.360 even half of what he was today after the Texas game, 245 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.190 he was truly shocked of what happened. Like he said 246 00:11:59.210 --> 00:12:01.710 it like we, we were shocked. I did not think 247 00:12:01.730 --> 00:12:02.649 my team could play like that. 248 00:12:03.610 --> 00:12:07.470 Um, I agree with that, too. Think of a time 249 00:12:07.509 --> 00:12:09.710 that you really look at Ohio State

and they just 250 00:12:09.750 --> 00:12:12.110 didn't have effort and urgency. 251 00:12:12.730 --> 00:12:14.659 I feel like you go. 252 00:12:14.620 --> 00:12:17.039 Into a game knowing, all right, here's the ceiling of 253 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:19.240 this team. Here's the floor of this team. Well, they 254 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:22.700 somehow found another floor and went down a level against 255 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:25.159 that USC game. And that's the only way I can 256 00:12:25.179 --> 00:12:27.940 put it into words of how that really looked for it. 257 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:30.940 But how do they flip the script? I guess that's 258 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.789 what everyone keeps saying. Flip the script, go to Oregon. 259 00:12:33.970 --> 00:12:35.389 How do they get better and how do they improve 260 00:12:35.429 --> 00:12:37.580 on that? That's the real thing, and it's nice to 261 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:39.360 see Ryan Day fired up about it because he shouldn't 262 00:12:39.379 --> 00:12:42.019 be happy about being 6-2. This team is better than 6-2. 263 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.919 They had a chance to put away Texas. If they 264 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:47.679 win that Texas game, they have plenty of breathing room. 265 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:51.500 They had every bit of opportunity to go into USC 266 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:55.360 and beat USC, but that team did not show up 267 00:12:55.740 --> 00:12:58.679 one bit. They very well could be 8-0 right now, 268 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:02.049 sitting pretty, number one team in the country. but that's 269 00:13:02.090 --> 00:13:04.210 not the case. And they're fighting their way in to 270 00:13:04.250 --> 00:13:05.309 get to the playoffs the rest of the year. 271 00:13:07.009 --> 00:13:09.250 It's going to take a team effort as well. Like Ryan, 272 00:13:09.269 --> 00:13:11.759 they can say what he wants. The players have to 273 00:13:11.769 --> 00:13:14.940 believe it. I will say myself, I was kind of 274 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:16.940 encouraged by what happened today. I was talking to some 275 00:13:16.980 --> 00:13:19.759 people about like, Hey, you know, they're telling me you 276 00:13:19.779 --> 00:13:22.399 never seen backs against the wall of Ohio state. And 277 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.580 I was like, well, neither has half the roster because 278 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:27.639 there's like 50 some of new players. So how do 279 00:13:27.659 --> 00:13:30.620 you know how they're going to respond to that? Christian Allegro. 280 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.860 He took accountability, said that the effort and the execution 281 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:40.289 was unacceptable, disappointing. I mean, you can kind of tell. 282 00:13:40.309 --> 00:13:44.370 He's a man of few words. You can tell he's 283 00:13:44.389 --> 00:13:48.330 pissed off. So for a newcomer like that to be upset, 284 00:13:48.710 --> 00:13:50.090 that made me feel a lot better. Because like I said, 285 00:13:50.590 -->

00:13:52.269 you don't know how a bunch of new guys are 286 00:13:52.289 --> 00:13:56.960 going to react to that coaching and that pressure at 287 00:13:56.980 --> 00:13:59.809 Ohio State. As Ryan Day said, if you can't handle it, 288 00:13:59.940 --> 00:14:02.389 don't come to Ohio State. But seeing a new guy 289 00:14:02.409 --> 00:14:06.110 there that's been on campus for, what, seven months, like, 290 00:14:06.769 --> 00:14:09.980 understand the urgency, that was encouraging to me. Hopefully it 291 00:14:10.100 --> 00:14:12.620 transitions to the rest of the team, and the rest 292 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.460 of the team plays like backs against the Wallhouse State. 293 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:17.559 Because when they're in that mode, they're dangerous. Like, they 294 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:20.399 are– they have that killer mindset. 100%. 295 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.080 And it's more so the culture is really coming out of, 296 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:27.570 They bring kids in, and you keep saying newcomers, how 297 00:14:27.590 --> 00:14:29.809 are they going to react? Well, that's one thing in 298 00:14:29.870 --> 00:14:32.230 their evaluation process that we see time and time again 299 00:14:32.269 --> 00:14:34.309 in the recruiting is the culture aspect, and they've got 300 00:14:34.330 --> 00:14:36.049 to be a culture fit as well. And that's why 301 00:14:36.070 --> 00:14:38.470 some guys end up being passed up on, quite frankly. 302 00:14:38.529 --> 00:14:41.740 And some guys that are talented, plenty talented enough to 303 00:14:41.769 --> 00:14:42.820 be at a house, they just don't end up at 304 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.159 a house because they pass them because they're not culture fit. 305 00:14:45.500 --> 00:14:46.799 I think they've done a good job in this transfer 306 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.200 portal class of bringing in guys that fit that culture. 307 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:52.889 Now they have the culture they want, How do you 308 00:14:52.909 --> 00:14:54.789 go respond now, though? You know what I mean? That's 309 00:14:54.809 --> 00:14:58.490 the thing is you got the right group of guys culture-wise, 310 00:14:58.950 --> 00:15:01.590 and you guys will think you'll respond to this and 311 00:15:01.610 --> 00:15:04.110 be resilient, but you got to put it on the field. 312 00:15:04.149 --> 00:15:07.049 You got to make that happen, and you got to 313 00:15:07.070 --> 00:15:09.120 do it against Oregon. Step one, do it against Oregon, 314 00:15:09.389 --> 00:15:11.860 and then you figure the rest out. That's pretty much 315 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:15.179 you don't have time to look down the road anymore. 316 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.120 It's get 1-0 every week for the next four weeks, 317 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:19.330 and that's what they got to focus on. 318 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:23.409 The one thing that I did think about just a 319 00:15:23.450 --> 00:15:24.830 few minutes ago, and I wanted to bring it up, 320 00:15:27.419

--> 00:15:31.830 the transfers that they brought in are winners. That definitely helps. 321 00:15:31.990 --> 00:15:34.990 When you have a winning DNA with you, Kyle Parker 322 00:15:35.009 --> 00:15:38.950 was at LSU. Dom Kelly came from Georgia. Jacoby Jackson, Florida, 323 00:15:39.029 --> 00:15:40.210 not a whole lot of winning, but he's got a 324 00:15:40.210 --> 00:15:44.070 really interesting story himself. Told Lyle Allenstein of 11 Wars 325 00:15:44.090 --> 00:15:46.750 a month or two ago that he, I believe after 326 00:15:46.809 --> 00:15:50.570 high school, was working at the Lowe's Wood area. and 327 00:15:50.610 --> 00:15:52.230 then made his way up through Juco and then Florida. 328 00:15:52.450 --> 00:15:58.210 So he understands back against the wall. Quay Rousaw, Earl 329 00:15:58.250 --> 00:16:00.409 Little Jr., those guys were on the 23rd Bama team 330 00:16:00.429 --> 00:16:02.370 that had to fight their way back to get to 331 00:16:02.389 --> 00:16:02.830 the CFP. 332 00:16:03.490 --> 00:16:04.110 Yeah. 333 00:16:04.549 --> 00:16:07.980 Christian Allegro, same kind of story. John Walker. These are 334 00:16:08.009 --> 00:16:10.860 guys that come from winning backgrounds or at least have 335 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:14.940 had to fight at some point. I didn't really notice 336 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:16.919 that at first, but now that we're in the situation 337 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:19.000 and seeing how some of the guys are reacting, do 338 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:22.659 you think that was– Accoladed by Ryan Day, like that 339 00:16:22.700 --> 00:16:24.440 was on his bingo card of like, okay, have these 340 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:28.519 guys either A, been on a winning program, check, or 341 00:16:28.620 --> 00:16:29.970 know how to handle adversity, check. 342 00:16:31.429 --> 00:16:34.009 I mean, it goes back to that culture fit of 343 00:16:34.070 --> 00:16:36.970 some sort of not that they need to be on 344 00:16:36.990 --> 00:16:39.950 a winning program. It's just that they either, one, had 345 00:16:39.970 --> 00:16:42.470 to develop a relationship with them like John Walker. Like 346 00:16:42.570 --> 00:16:45.070 Ohio State, quite frankly, just lost John Walker to UCF 347 00:16:45.269 --> 00:16:47.970 because he wanted to stay home for family reasons. And 348 00:16:48.009 --> 00:16:50.029 that just kind of changed later in his career. And 349 00:16:50.049 --> 00:16:54.169 that's how I ultimately ended up at Ohio State. There's that. 350 00:16:54.370 --> 00:16:56.309 There's those type of players. But there's also players like 351 00:16:56.350 --> 00:16:58.049 James Smith and Claire Sal where they come from a 352 00:16:58.090 --> 00:17:00.669 winning culture and they fit up an area of need 353 00:17:00.710 --> 00:17:04.309 for Ohio State. And there's that relationship there because of, 354 00:17:04.369 --> 00:17:07.670 you know, past people coming from Bama to Ohio State. 355 00:17:07.710 --> 00:17:10.519 Caleb Downs is being one of those. And James Smith 356 00:17:10.539 --> 00:17:12.200 and Claire Sal has been very open and honest about that. 357 00:17:12.539 --> 00:17:14.519 They talk to Caleb a lot during the process of 358 00:17:14.900 --> 00:17:18.150 why Ohio State fits what they need. And that kind 359 00:17:18.170 --> 00:17:19.710 of ended up working out for him. Earl Little was 360 00:17:19.730 --> 00:17:23.769 the same way. And obviously other guys came because of coaches, 361 00:17:24.009 --> 00:17:27.269 you know, like Terry Moore going to Ohio State from Duke. 362 00:17:27.369 --> 00:17:30.230 That's because of Matt Guerrero's background with Duke. Kyle Parker 363 00:17:30.250 --> 00:17:33.750 going to Ohio State was because of Coach Hankton and 364 00:17:33.789 --> 00:17:37.569 his background at LSU, stuff of that nature. And then 365 00:17:37.630 --> 00:17:41.109 obviously Dom Kelly, like he's got ties to the coaching 366 00:17:41.130 --> 00:17:45.069 staff on that DB room as well. Coming from Georgia, 367 00:17:45.289 --> 00:17:48.250 Coach Walton's got plenty of good ties in Georgia. So 368 00:17:48.309 --> 00:17:53.569 there's that aspect. It's more so relationships, but yes, the 369 00:17:53.730 --> 00:17:58.819 aspect of, I guess, the winning culture and adversity, they 370 00:17:58.859 --> 00:18:00.690 have to have that built into their DNA for Ohio 371 00:18:00.710 --> 00:18:02.660 State to even look at them. Ohio State will do 372 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:06.859 their full-on scout on them. If they're a good enough player, 373 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:09.619 then they'll do their deep dive of who is he 374 00:18:09.660 --> 00:18:12.220 as a person. And that's when they go into those 375 00:18:12.259 --> 00:18:16.000 relationships that they trust. You know, like Christian Allegro, for instance. 376 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:19.000 Luke Fickle has got deep ties to Ohio State. I'm 377 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:21.160 sure they talked to Luke Fickle about Christian Allegro before 378 00:18:21.220 --> 00:18:25.289 he became a Buckeye. I'm sure that happened. And that 379 00:18:25.329 --> 00:18:28.730 happened for almost every guy. There's probably somebody that vouched 380 00:18:28.769 --> 00:18:31.730 for them as a character as well as the scouting 381 00:18:31.750 --> 00:18:32.730 staff is a football player. 382 00:18:34.509 --> 00:18:37.440 There's one player making his return to Columbus this weekend. 383 00:18:37.819 --> 00:18:40.180 Already played in Columbus because of Nebraska. 384 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:40.380 Nebraska. 385 00:18:41.309 --> 00:18:48.029 Former Ohio State, Georgia, Nebraska, Oregon Duck, Dylan Ryle. Coming 386 00:18:48.069 --> 00:18:51.769 back to the shoe. I saw a quote today after 387 00:18:51.809 --> 00:18:56.309 his game with Nebraska. Was it 24? He said that 388 00:18:56.470 --> 00:18:59.140 the shoe was the toughest place to play in the 389 00:18:59.160 --> 00:18:59.599 Big Ten. 390 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:01.880 He did say

that. I remember seeing that clip. 391 00:19:03.059 --> 00:19:07.059 I can promise you, buddy, get ready to learn 100,000 392 00:19:07.059 --> 00:19:09.220 of your closest friends because they're going to be back. 393 00:19:10.130 --> 00:19:13.150 probably saying some not nice things to you. Ohio State 394 00:19:13.170 --> 00:19:16.150 fans don't like the opposing fans. They don't like guys 395 00:19:16.210 --> 00:19:17.039 who spur them either. 396 00:19:17.970 --> 00:19:21.619 No, they remember everything. That's one thing, especially in the 397 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:25.599 recruiting battles. They remember everything. That's one thing to learn 398 00:19:25.619 --> 00:19:29.880 about them. But yes, I think the fan base, yes, 399 00:19:29.940 --> 00:19:32.160 it's not a night game, but it's almost a night 400 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:35.720 game in the second half type thing. Will they show up? 401 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:37.799 Will they be loud? I think so. I'd be shocked. 402 00:19:38.380 --> 00:19:40.410 I feel like the fan base feels like their backs 403 00:19:40.450 --> 00:19:42.859 against the wall too. Um, or it's like, all right, 404 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:44.559 if they don't get this one, maybe the rest of 405 00:19:44.579 --> 00:19:49.190 the year, that stadium might be quieter, but less rowdy 406 00:19:49.990 --> 00:19:52.619 per se. So it feels like the fans feel like 407 00:19:52.630 --> 00:19:55.319 their backs against the wall as well. And I think 408 00:19:55.339 --> 00:19:58.019 they'll show up big time against this now ranked matchup 409 00:19:58.059 --> 00:19:58.539 against Oregon. 410 00:20:00.299 --> 00:20:02.839 I'm of the belief that if you got to get 411 00:20:02.859 --> 00:20:05.200 your juice flowing to go to a football game or 412 00:20:05.220 --> 00:20:07.099 go play a football game, you're in the wrong profession. 413 00:20:07.779 --> 00:20:11.049 But when a team like Oregon comes, 5-3, barely in 414 00:20:11.069 --> 00:20:13.369 the top 25. It's a really, really good football team 415 00:20:13.589 --> 00:20:18.019 based on the talent and the coaching staff there. Ryan 416 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:20.059 Day hasn't made a comment yet. I don't expect him 417 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:23.400 to make a comment about the fan base in terms 418 00:20:23.819 --> 00:20:27.000 of the crowd, but he does not have to make 419 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.279 an announcement that, hey, fans, we need you. We've got 420 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:31.980 a really good team coming in. Dylan Riles is making 421 00:20:32.019 --> 00:20:34.599 his return. Let him feel welcome in the wrong way. 422 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:39.750 Oregon's offense, though, it's dangerous. You got Rilo in there. 423 00:20:39.789 --> 00:20:41.970 Rilo just threw for like 330 and three touchdowns, but 424 00:20:42.369 --> 00:20:45.690 Evan Stewart, De'Corey and Moore, Jamari Johnson, I would assume 425 00:20:45.710 --> 00:20:48.789 they play. I know they had their legal troubles the 426 00:20:48.809 --> 00:20:50.750 last few weeks, but I would assume that they played 427 00:20:50.789 --> 00:20:53.170 in this game. And then offensive line, that's kind of 428 00:20:53.190 --> 00:20:55.809 been up and down this season, but when they put 429 00:20:55.890 --> 00:20:58.190 on their best showing, they can beat anybody in the country. 430 00:20:58.789 --> 00:21:00.990 Yeah, do we know an update on the legal troubles 431 00:21:01.309 --> 00:21:04.769 for Oregon's receiving core is what I'd like to call them? 432 00:21:05.569 --> 00:21:10.890 Well, De'Corey and Played last week and dropped like $ 1. 28. 433 00:21:09.809 --> 00:21:15.309 Yeah, I know he's Australian, but I think they were 434 00:21:15.329 --> 00:21:19.980 missing four of their top five receiving options outside of DeCorean, right? 435 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:25.380 Like that's the– but I don't know. It's one of 436 00:21:25.420 --> 00:21:28.019 those things that's, oh, you're suspended to the Ohio State game. 437 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:31.680 I bet that's probably part of it. But we'll see. 438 00:21:31.869 --> 00:21:36.759 I am uneducated on that. That's a full– Off-air discussion, 439 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:38.180 I guess. 440 00:21:38.819 --> 00:21:41.220 I haven't heard anything about it in the last week 441 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.779 or so. I know they got in trouble. I don't 442 00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:44.880 want to speak too much on that because I don't 443 00:21:44.900 --> 00:21:49.220 want to get into legal things. It's splitting hairs. But 444 00:21:49.980 --> 00:21:53.289 I would say they play. Now they're number 23 in 445 00:21:53.309 --> 00:21:54.730 the country. Even if they were in trouble, I think 446 00:21:54.769 --> 00:21:57.890 Dan Lanning would say, you know, guys, you served your time, a.k.a. 447 00:21:57.910 --> 00:22:00.359 a week. You can play against Ohio State. 448 00:22:00.420 --> 00:22:03.089 That offense is dangerous, though. The one thing I think 449 00:22:03.470 --> 00:22:05.990 those fans are upset about is how bad the offensive 450 00:22:06.029 --> 00:22:10.250 line is played at times this year. But good news 451 00:22:10.369 --> 00:22:12.750 is Ohio State doesn't have a pass rush, so there 452 00:22:12.769 --> 00:22:17.019 you go. You can mix-match it with that. Can Ohio 453 00:22:17.099 --> 00:22:19.759 State get there with Ford? If there's ever an offensive 454 00:22:19.799 --> 00:22:22.759 line to do it against that they've played in the 455 00:22:22.779 --> 00:22:27.869 past few weeks, it'd be Oregon. There's that going for them, 456 00:22:27.910 --> 00:22:30.430 but If you can't get home against Maryland, how are 457 00:22:30.450 --> 00:22:32.470 you going to get home against Oregon, though? You can 458 00:22:32.549 --> 00:22:37.089 also make that argument. So, yes, there's those. But how 459 00:22:37.130 --> 00:22:40.299 do they force Dylan Raiola to really play a chess match? Like, 460 00:22:40.380 -->

00:22:43.200 Jaden Maiava did not have to be a superhero to 461 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:47.019 lead USC to 30 points. Do they force Dylan Raiola 462 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:48.700 to be a superhero to lead them to 30 points? 463 00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:50.900 That's going to be the question of the day. Do 464 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:54.349 they tackle well in space? Do they play good sound 465 00:22:54.410 --> 00:23:00.779 gap schemes? And cover their zones as well. And do 466 00:23:00.819 --> 00:23:03.599 they just force Oregon to be better than them? USC, 467 00:23:04.059 --> 00:23:05.660 they did not force USC to be better than them. 468 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:09.339 They just made their simple mental mistakes and a lot 469 00:23:09.380 --> 00:23:12.299 of penalties and didn't tackle well. The good news is 470 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.579 that can all be fixed. The bad news is you 471 00:23:15.819 --> 00:23:18.359 let that happen one game, you can't let it roll 472 00:23:18.420 --> 00:23:20.619 over to the next game. So how does that defense 473 00:23:20.660 --> 00:23:24.339 respond to definitely their worst outing of the season by far? 474 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:28.750 I don't want to... go too far into it because, like, 475 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:32.460 it's watering the bridge at this point. That USC game 476 00:23:32.500 --> 00:23:36.279 showed us just how important Jay Timmons is to this defense. 477 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:39.400 It took about– I saw Tony Girvin tweet out, it 478 00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:43.710 took two plays for Jay Timmons to be missed. Like, 479 00:23:46.509 --> 00:23:48.210 I don't know if he'll be back in this game. 480 00:23:48.589 --> 00:23:51.849 I was confident last week after hearing some things for 481 00:23:51.890 --> 00:23:53.849 Ryan Day. I don't know, though. 482 00:23:53.869 --> 00:23:54.930 I don't know. 483 00:23:54.950 --> 00:23:58.329 He said– I believe it was postgame that whatever– he 484 00:23:58.630 --> 00:24:02.089 obviously didn't specify, but said what Jay has is one 485 00:24:02.109 --> 00:24:05.869 of those lingering things. He said it was not comparable 486 00:24:05.910 --> 00:24:09.890 to JSM in terms of his hamstring, but it could 487 00:24:09.910 --> 00:24:12.269 be a similar type injury like that. If you don't 488 00:24:12.289 --> 00:24:15.210 have Jay Timmons this weekend, that's huge. You can still 489 00:24:15.250 --> 00:24:20.109 beat Oregon without him. But that's second-best defensive back behind 490 00:24:20.130 --> 00:24:21.369 Jalen McClain, I would say. 491 00:24:24.950 --> 00:24:29.339 There's arguments first. That's the crazy part. There's an argument 492 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:34.180 he's first. It almost makes me wonder, like, I understand 493 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.480 Jermaine moving him to slot and Dom Kelly on the outside. 494 00:24:37.259 --> 00:24:38.859 Is there a way we can keep Jermaine on the outside, 495 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:41.500 move Earl Little to slot, and, like, maybe put Terry Moore? 496 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:43.220 Do you want Stephen Caldwell at slot? 497 00:24:44.329 --> 00:24:46.349 Like, no. No, I don't. 498 00:24:46.730 --> 00:24:47.369 Okay. 499 00:24:47.450 --> 00:24:49.470 He's a freshman. He's going to grow. He's going to 500 00:24:49.490 --> 00:24:51.710 be good. He's just not ready yet. I'll put that 501 00:24:51.750 --> 00:24:53.619 out there. But is there a way to move maybe 502 00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:57.000 Terry Moore into Earl Little's position? Is that a way 503 00:24:57.019 --> 00:24:58.819 to move Earl Little to slot? I think that would 504 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:00.619 be more of the veteran group that would make the 505 00:25:00.660 --> 00:25:04.849 most sense for this defense. Somebody that is his last 506 00:25:04.890 --> 00:25:08.289 year of eligibility anyways might as well use him. I 507 00:25:08.329 --> 00:25:10.130 just have a hard time feeling like he's not ready 508 00:25:10.910 --> 00:25:13.069 unless he just came back from that injury completely different. 509 00:25:13.089 --> 00:25:16.299 I don't know. We'll see. We'll see what the different 510 00:25:16.359 --> 00:25:19.420 outlooks look like. But I think having Jermaine on the 511 00:25:19.460 --> 00:25:22.670 outside is... your best option because he's such a lockdown 512 00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:25.000 corner on the outside. And he can follow around guys 513 00:25:25.019 --> 00:25:27.220 like DeCorey Moore because they move him around a lot 514 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:29.480 as well. So that would be a nice matchup for 515 00:25:29.500 --> 00:25:32.640 them to have. But this Oregon offense, yes, it's dangerous. 516 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:39.750 And this defensive line for Oregon is absolutely bang-packed up 517 00:25:39.829 --> 00:25:42.430 front with talent. That's the only way to put it. 518 00:25:43.250 --> 00:25:46.569 They have dudes in their second team that are dudes. 519 00:25:47.430 --> 00:25:50.430 So how does the offensive line, banged-up offensive line, hold 520 00:25:50.470 --> 00:25:52.430 up against them? a really good defensive line too. And 521 00:25:52.769 --> 00:25:57.640 how does Luke Fahey adjust to a much better D 522 00:25:57.680 --> 00:25:59.079 line than even USC had? 523 00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:01.839 It'll be tough. It'll be tough. I will say, I 524 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:03.940 want to bring this up. I saw it this morning 525 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:06.180 when I was doing some of my, my game scouting 526 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.779 might be the paper popper stat of the game to 527 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:15.200 keep in your mind. Oregon's run game has been Jekyll 528 00:26:15.220 --> 00:26:17.440 and Hyde at points. They've looked good at points. They 529 00:26:17.460 --> 00:26:20.599 don't look great points. They, they get it done. They're 530 00:26:20.619 --> 00:26:24.240 a true three outcome. But Oregon is 0-2 this season 531 00:26:24.289 --> 00:26:26.809 when they run for under

100 yards. They ran for 532 00:26:26.849 --> 00:26:33.289 like 73 against UCLA and like 80 against Oklahoma State. 533 00:26:34.250 --> 00:26:38.839 Shocker. So what's the other loss that they rushed for 534 00:26:38.859 --> 00:26:41.019 over 100? 535 00:26:42.059 --> 00:26:44.789 They lost to Illinois running for like 150. 536 00:26:44.779 --> 00:26:46.420 Yeah, that's right. 537 00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:50.059 But Bad loss. Shocker. Shocker, man. When you don't run 538 00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:52.180 the football and you can't establish that ground game and 539 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.960 keep the defense honest, you don't win games. But that 540 00:26:55.980 --> 00:26:59.339 blueprint's out there. Stop the run. Obviously, a lot easier 541 00:26:59.380 --> 00:27:01.750 said than done, especially with the running backs that Oregon has. 542 00:27:02.069 --> 00:27:03.769 I think it's more of an offensive line issue than 543 00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:07.589 it is running backs. They have a bevy of studs. 544 00:27:08.569 --> 00:27:10.170 I would not be shocked if there were some guys 545 00:27:10.190 --> 00:27:12.470 that hopped in the portal and got some handsome offers 546 00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:16.059 to other P4 top-tier schools. They're running back for some dudes. 547 00:27:16.099 --> 00:27:22.720 The offensive line... Different story. But I don't want to 548 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:24.839 say key in on the run, like stack the box. 549 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:28.980 I think it's kind of something that Ohio State can 550 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.000 take care of without, though. Like, I know the USC 551 00:27:32.019 --> 00:27:35.569 game wasn't great. Part of that was misalignments. And that's, 552 00:27:35.730 --> 00:27:38.890 at this point in the season, unacceptable. But they held 553 00:27:39.490 --> 00:27:42.809 Indiana in check. Indiana is a much better rushing offense 554 00:27:42.849 --> 00:27:44.609 than Oregon is. Much better. 555 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.759 If we see the defense that they put against Iowa, 556 00:27:48.180 --> 00:27:51.079 I think you feel very confident going into this game. 557 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.940 If you see that type of defense that the Iowa 558 00:27:53.980 --> 00:27:58.279 game had, I would feel very confident going into the game, 559 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:00.829 bookmark it, Ohio State wins. But I just don't know 560 00:28:00.849 --> 00:28:02.869 if that defense is going to show up. We've seen 561 00:28:02.910 --> 00:28:05.490 it at times where we're like, oh, my God, maybe 562 00:28:05.509 --> 00:28:07.529 we're wrong. This is a top five, top ten defense 563 00:28:08.369 --> 00:28:10.569 in the country, in college football. And then you see 564 00:28:10.589 --> 00:28:13.359 games like Illinois or USC, and you're like, whoa, hold on, 565 00:28:13.390 --> 00:28:16.200 like– Yeah, we just don't have the personnel this year. 566 00:28:16.299 --> 00:28:18.619 You know what I mean? It's different feelings throughout the year. 567 00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.539 It's up and down, up and down. It better be 568 00:28:21.619 --> 00:28:23.259 up this week or it's going to be another down, 569 00:28:23.579 --> 00:28:26.750 if that makes sense. If the defense is not playing well, 570 00:28:28.029 --> 00:28:29.750 they don't want to put all the pressure on Luke 571 00:28:29.769 --> 00:28:31.750 Fahey's shoulders to go out there and win a shootout. 572 00:28:31.789 --> 00:28:33.470 That's just not the way this coaching staff is going 573 00:28:33.490 --> 00:28:36.109 to coach the offense. The defense has to step up 574 00:28:36.369 --> 00:28:38.680 and hold them to under 20 points. That just has 575 00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:39.220 to be the case. 576 00:28:40.940 --> 00:28:43.779 That leads me into my final point before we shut 577 00:28:43.819 --> 00:28:48.079 down shop. I don't know why, but I found joy 578 00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:50.859 in asking you these random questions before we close shop 579 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.119 on the, on the podcast. So this one we talked 580 00:28:54.140 --> 00:28:58.279 about earlier, do we see angry Ohio state backs against 581 00:28:58.299 --> 00:28:59.480 the wall? Ohio state this weekend. 582 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.960 Angry Ohio state. Last time we saw angry Ohio state 583 00:29:05.980 --> 00:29:09.960 was the national championship run that whole playoffs really three 584 00:29:09.980 --> 00:29:13.990 games in a row is what it really was. It was, Tennessee, Oregon, 585 00:29:14.029 --> 00:29:15.910 and Texas. I feel like they're still pissed off during 586 00:29:15.930 --> 00:29:19.710 that Texas win. They kind of lack Notre Dame. Do 587 00:29:19.730 --> 00:29:22.339 we see that? I think there's a possibility we see 588 00:29:23.420 --> 00:29:25.680 angry Ohio State until the end of the regular season. 589 00:29:27.500 --> 00:29:29.059 Do we see it later on in that? I don't know. 590 00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:31.700 But I think it feels like their backs against the 591 00:29:31.740 --> 00:29:37.230 walls and Ryan Dace really taking more responsibility of, all right, 592 00:29:37.289 --> 00:29:39.390 we've got to go win these next four or this 593 00:29:39.430 --> 00:29:41.009 is going to be one of the biggest failures in 594 00:29:41.069 --> 00:29:45.170 Ohio State history if we don't make a 12-team playoff. So, yes, 595 00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:47.000 I think their backs are against the wall, and they're 596 00:29:47.019 --> 00:29:49.339 going to play angry, and they're going to play violent. 597 00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:52.779 But does it end in a win? That's ultimately what 598 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:54.299 matters at the end of the day. How do they 599 00:29:54.740 --> 00:29:56.500 have more points than Oregon come Saturday? 600 00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:59.779 I agree with you. I think they, they show angry 601 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.400 Ohio state to an extent, not going to be the 602 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.400

2024 playoff run, which I I've, I've said, and it's 603 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.180 not a very popular tech is it's a three game 604 00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:12.259 sample size or Tennessee four games, four game sample size, 605 00:30:13.380 --> 00:30:14.980 the way they play those four games. That's the best 606 00:30:15.009 --> 00:30:16.930 thing I've ever seen in my life. Best thing I've 607 00:30:16.970 --> 00:30:17.569 ever seen in my life. 608 00:30:18.190 --> 00:30:20.309 Best Ohio state team I've seen through four game sample 609 00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:24.390 size too. So, and that's including a absolute stacked year 610 00:30:24.529 --> 00:30:28.509 after they won, um, I mean, there's a case that 611 00:30:28.529 --> 00:30:30.450 you can say that 2015 Ohio State, the year after 612 00:30:30.470 --> 00:30:34.089 they won the championship, was probably the best team in 613 00:30:34.109 --> 00:30:36.490 Ohio State. Yeah. Urban Meyer passed. 614 00:30:39.730 --> 00:30:43.890 It had essentially the same roster of a 2014 national 615 00:30:43.910 --> 00:30:46.990 championship team, and they added some guys. I think you 616 00:30:47.029 --> 00:30:49.970 will see somewhat of an angry Ohio State team, but 617 00:30:49.990 --> 00:30:56.230 you're going to see an inspired Oregon team. They're now ranked. 618 00:30:56.250 --> 00:30:59.849 They've got some momentum. Does Angry Ohio State do enough 619 00:30:59.869 --> 00:31:02.930 to beat Oregon while they're more than likely inspired on 620 00:31:02.970 --> 00:31:05.740 the road? Also in Wounded Animal mode. 621 00:31:06.299 --> 00:31:06.640 I don't know. 622 00:31:06.859 --> 00:31:07.259 We'll see. 623 00:31:09.339 --> 00:31:12.539 What animal is Wounded West? That's the battle of that. 624 00:31:13.019 --> 00:31:15.200 I saw a tweet today. I think I sent it 625 00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:17.789 to you. It was an Oregon fan page, and it's like, 626 00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:21.269 it's that one movie where they're saying, aim for the bushes. 627 00:31:23.490 --> 00:31:26.329 It's like Oregon and Ohio State going into battle this weekend, 628 00:31:26.349 --> 00:31:28.970 and they're just aiming for the bushes. I think it's, 629 00:31:29.390 --> 00:31:32.410 you know, Twitter keeps me laughing sometimes, and I appreciated 630 00:31:32.430 --> 00:31:34.259 that post today, so I just thought I'd share that one. 631 00:31:35.140 --> 00:31:39.440 I love Twitter. It's an absolute cesspool, but, hey, it's 632 00:31:39.619 --> 00:31:40.259 the work of us. 633 00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:42.000 Aim for the bushes. 634 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.509 Aim for the bushes. Aim for the bushes. Aim for 635 00:31:45.549 --> 00:31:48.210 that like and subscribe button on the YouTube channel, please. 636 00:31:48.769 --> 00:31:51.319 Be awesome. And then go and aim to your keyboard 637 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:55.640 to look up BuckeyeHeadle.com. Go check us out there. Best 638 00:31:55.660 --> 00:31:59.440 in the business, TJ Warner. Best recruit insider there is, 639 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.799 bar none. Kevin Newton and I are covering the team. John, 640 00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:03.789 JR Rhodes with the Daily Podcast. And, of course, Mark 641 00:32:03.809 --> 00:32:06.990 Gibbler running it all. Ohio State fans, until Monday, we'll 642 00:32:07.009 --> 00:32:07.220 see you.