MICHAEL LEWIS – Lewis, author of The Big Short, Money Ball, and The Blind Side, talks to Al about his latest, The Fifth Risk, a close-up examination of the corruption, dishonesty, and incompetence of the Trump administration, starting with Trump’s own breathtaking lack of interest in how the federal government works. Lewis names the most incurious, incompetent members of the Trump admin – Wilbur Ross, Rick Perry, and, yes, Trump himself.

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