Full Transcript for Episode 50|Kicking the LA Knight “YEAH Can” Down The Road, Tribal Combat @ SummerSlam, & What To Do w/ MJF & Adam Cole

00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 LA night's time is money in the bank. 92 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Okay. 93 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 LA night, hottest fish grease. 94 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,000 Loudest reactions on SmackDown every single week. 95 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:57,000 LA night, cut promos about his destiny is winning that money in the bank briefcase. 96 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,000 They get to London. 97 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 You guessed it. 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Nothing. 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,000 I remember that. 100 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 We come out of money in the bank. 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 E, what do we say? 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 Man, you got to strike while the iron's hot. 103 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Get his boy the belt, the US title. 104 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Austin Theory ain't doing nothing with it. 105 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,000 What happens? 106 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,000 They named two Fatal 4-Way matches. 107 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 He wasn't in the first one to play with our emotions. 108 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 He's in the second one. 109 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Oh, this is his time. 110 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:33,000 48,000 people in Ford Field screaming yeah when he wins the US title against Austin 111 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Theory, who is absolutely dormant in this title run. 112 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Match starts, comes out, gets the biggest pop on the show. 113 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:52,000 He proceeds to not win that match. 114 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,000 But who won though? 115 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 They did it again. 116 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:07,000 I remember the Royal Rumble where we all wanted Daniel Bryan to be number 30. 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,000 And Rey Mysterio came in number 30 and got booed. 118 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:19,000 He didn't get booed Friday night, but you might as well set up the goat Rey Mysterio again. 119 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:26,000 He now wins, we get to him and Santos next week. 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 I'm ready to blow a gasket. 121 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,000 I'm ready to go off because I remember all this. 122 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:38,000 I remember what you told me, Triple H, Paul Levesque, at your press conference. 123 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,000 One of those big slogans and mottos. 124 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:50,000 Everything that takes time comes to play in the face of adversity, whatever you said. 125 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 I'm ready to give it up. 126 00:06:53,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Then something comes out yesterday that states the US title match wasn't going to be on SummerSlam anyway. 127 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:08,000 It is allegedly going to happen on a future episode of SmackDown. 128 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Ladies and gentlemen, I only got one question for you at this point. 129 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:20,000 Because I believe not giving LA Knight a moment in forward field, now maybe he comes out and cuts a promo. 130 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 He comes out and cuts a promo, cool. 131 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:29,000 If his feud is going to start the next week after SummerSlam, cool, whatever. 132 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:35,000 My question though to you guys is, at this point, and I already know Rudy's answer. 133 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Do you trust WWE to fully take advantage of LA Knight's popularity? 134 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:51,000 I told you I am not getting my hopes up high for him until they prove it to me. 135 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,000 So until they prove it to me, then that's the only time I'm going to buy into it. 136 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,000 So to answer your question, hey, yes, no, maybe so. 137 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:04,000 I don't think so at this point. 138 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 But I'm perfectly fine when that happened and I saw Ray Ray 1. 139 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,000 I'm like, holy shit, I bet a whole bunch of people were mad right now. 140 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 My hopes, I mean, my emotions not into it. 141 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 You know Drake had a song called Emotionalist. 142 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,000 That's how I felt, emotionalist. 143 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Couldn't wait to come on here to address this here. 144 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Once again, once again, Triple H. 145 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,000 You got us, but not in the right way. 146 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Dirty motherfuckers. Dirty. Dirty. 147 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Down, dirty dog. 148 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Save us, Eshaan. Tell us. 149 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Tell us that you have all the faith in the world that LA Knight, Eli Drake, 150 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,000 will be taken advantage of in the proper way. 151 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,000 And we are going to be having a conversation months from now saying, 152 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 man, you remember we were tripping? 153 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,000 And we was worried about him not being on Mania, 154 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 him not winning Money in the Bank, 155 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:09,000 him not being on the Summer Slam card, all stadium shows outside of London. 156 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,000 And we all just tripped. We all just... 157 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Gonna be good. Tell me. Tell me, please. 158 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,000 You know, I'm sorry, man. I don't know if I can help you with this, man, 159 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 because I might have to just speak some logic on this, man. 160 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,000 I don't know what you want to hear, but I feel like as a fan of LA Knight, 161 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 maybe we should be elated, right? 162 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Because one of the knocks on Cody was that it was too much too soon. 163 00:09:32,000 -->

00:09:35,000 He didn't earn it. He didn't go. He didn't struggle enough. 164 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,000 He was on the bus, right? 165 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,000 Now LA Knight, he's struggling. He's losing. 166 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,000 So maybe when he gets to the place, we're all going to be invested. 167 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 And we're going to be like, he's here. He's arrived, right? 168 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,000 This is all part of the process to get true 100% investment 169 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,000 into the LA Knight character, because when he truly turns baby face, right? 170 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 He's going through all the struggles, all the losses, right? 171 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Because we love to see people lose around here. 172 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,000 Our show, we predicate baby faces losing all the time. 173 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 We want to see him struggle. So the man's struggling. 174 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 He's losing left and right, right? 175 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000 So once he gets that win, the crowd's going to cheer. 176 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Are we going to be right there for it? 177 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 This is all part of the plan. It has to be, right? 178 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 But at the end of the day, they are giving this man mic time before his matches, right? 179 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Who else are they giving mic time before their matches? 180 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,000 So they know that, you know, he has something going on the microphone. 181 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,000 So I think this is all part of the story, right? 182 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,000 You know, I wasn't invested in seeing that type of story with Cody, but you know what? 183 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,000 I'm going to digress and say, you know what? 184 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Let me enjoy that story and fully understand the Triple H process. 185 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,000 I'm going to follow it. I'm good. 186 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Okay. So then as big of an LA Night fan as you are, when you saw that, that he didn't win Friday, 187 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 you were all good with you to say, hey, let's see it play out. 188 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Well, I told you for me, the U.S. title in a match with Terry was like a consolation prize. 189 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,000 I wanted to see him. I wanted him to win the money in the bank. 190 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,000 I wanted to see him with the top dogs, not in the middle playing with those guys. 191 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,000 I want to see him at the top because I think his microphone skills 192 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,000 and his presence, his charisma is top of the is top of the chain. 193 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,000 That's what I want to see. I want to see him mingling with those guys. 194 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 So this stuff is cool. All right. 195 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:35,000 But I'm down for the no, but for for right on the journey to where LA Night goes. 196 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,000 The interesting thing that also came out, allegedly, 197 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 they still have him slotted as a heel on SmackDown, not a face. 198 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Of course. He's a heel. 199 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Getting the biggest face. Getting the biggest. 200 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Right. Exactly. Absolutely. 201 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Invented sides with them. 202 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,000 So he's getting the biggest face reactions on SmackDown outside of Jey Uso. 203 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,000 You have him slotted still as a heel. 204 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:05,000 And now the word is his push begins after August 5th, which is SummerSlam. 205 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,000 Right. Like I said, he's he's been he's he has been a heel. 206 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,000 If you follow his promos and what he does in the ring, he's been a heel this entire time. 207 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 People have just been cheering him. 208 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,000 So maybe the next step is for him to acknowledge that, hey, maybe he needs to change. 209 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Right. There's a lot of things that can happen and play out between now and the next level. 210 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Right. So I'm ready to get there. 211 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:33,000 But, hey, Matt, I got something for you, though, Matt, because I was I was watching this this SmackDown 212 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,000 and it immediately came to my mind like, wow, LA Night lost again. 213 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Right. And so I remember somebody on this podcast is like, hey, I can't believe in people unless they tell me who I should believe in. 214 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Right. I can't get like emotionally invested in the root behind the character just because I like that person. 215 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 If if the company tells me I like him, I don't like him. Right. 216 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,000 So I'm like, man, hold on, hold on, hold on. Say that one more time. 217 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:01,000 So unless the company tells me who I should invest in, I don't get invested in that character. 218 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,000 That's what we got on this podcast with somebody. 219 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:12,000 So when I saw when I watched this, I heard like the reaction and I heard the reaction from this crowd and the cheering. 220 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:18,000 And they're they're reciting the catchphrases and they was there for what do we call it? 221 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:23,000 LA Night's elbow drop. What are they calling it? You got a name for it yet? 222 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 I don't know, because every time he sets it up, I just laugh and scream out people's elbow. 223 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,000 So I miss the commentary whenever

he does. I'm not sure what it's called. 224 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Is it called maybe the the year drop or something? I don't know. Maybe we should call it. 225 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,000 Ready to get your Googles. Yeah. Maybe we should call it roadies elbow. 226 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Right. I think that might work. So no, hold on. 227 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Don't align me with anybody who's a jobber. So bring that back. 228 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,000 He's a jobber now. Whoa, whoa, whoa. 229 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,000 What just happened? What just happened Friday night? What just happened on Friday night? 230 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:59,000 So until until until you can get some meaningful wins. Whoa. 231 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,000 He's a jobber. Whoa. What is a jobber? 232 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,000 Person who's going to come in and take the loss. Right. 233 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:11,000 My man has a top three selling T-shirt. You call him my guy. L.A. night at job. 234 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 And I love the energy. So I was going to do a check in for the forensic family on the roadies poop list. 235 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Right. I want to know who's on there, who's over, who's not roadie, who you got for your top five for the week. 236 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:27,000 It's off the top of your head. Who's the top five list for you this week? 237 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,000 Of I like or I don't like. Either one is your thing. 238 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:37,000 So I'll go with like because I don't want to promote don't like. 239 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,000 So I like Roman Reigns. OK, I like J. 240 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Uso. I like Adam Cole. 241 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:52,000 I like Garcia and I like to catch that. 242 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,000 OK, so we know right now this week they're on the poop list. 243 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,000 So next week we don't follow up. We don't get who's on the poop list. 244 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Who's on the naughty list for roadie. So I just thought about that. 245 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,000 I'm like, man, I bet you know, where these over there rolling in her grave. 246 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,000 There's only really two people on my poop list. There's only really two people on my poop list. 247 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Who's that? That's Punk and Edge. That's it. 248 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 L.A. night. Oh, he's not he's not good enough to be on the poop list yet. Right. 249 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:23,000 Hey, Matt Astor last night. Like, why do you hate CM Punk so much? 250 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:29,000 He was disgusted. He was disgusted. He said something that was like, why do you hate CM Punk so much? 251 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Hey, if you listen to some of these reactions, she ain't the only one. Right. 252 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Oh, that's what I told Matthew to. He's a polarizing figure, as they would say. 253

00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Right. Love him or hate him. He's getting the John Cena reaction. 254 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,000 As long as you boo or cheer, that's all that matters. Getting the reaction. 255 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,000 But so, yeah. So if this was if this was Rudeja, 256 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:56,000 if this was not a Triple H led WWE, I would have blown a fucking fit. 257 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,000 Yeah, I would. I am. Of course, I am going to see L.A. night at this point. 258 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 If this was what it was, that's true, too. One hundred percent. 259 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:07,000 That's absolutely true. But I am all serious because I am going to, of course, I don't have a choice. 260 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:12,000 I am going to sit back and see how this plays out. You are going to think, though. 261 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,000 They have to know what they have. I saw some people in the course, you know, 262 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:22,000 how wrestling fans always got to take it whole way left. 263 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Some people comparing this to. Well, you all remember what they did to Daniel Bryan. 264 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,000 They didn't give him his due. Yes, they did. It was called the Yes Movement. 265 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,000 He actually won the title at WrestleMania 30, beat Triple H and like he got his time. 266 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,000 So that was after the fact, though. It was after the fact. Yeah. 267 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,000 But we finally got there. Right. And it was a huge payoff for him. Huge payoff for him. 268 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,000 And who knows what would happen if he didn't get injured. 269 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,000 So I do believe that they know what they have in them. You can be that type of merchandise seller. 270 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:59,000 You cannot be that type of viewer driver on TV, on YouTube, on social media. 271 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,000 And they not have something in play. 272 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:10,000 So I am going to wait now until fucking August 6th, which is a Sunday, and say, all right, this is the week. 273 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Maybe that's what we do instead of doing like a SummerSlam post show either Saturday night after SummerSlam or Sunday. 274 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:23,000 Maybe we do a the L.A. night pushes finally here pot where all we do is talk L.A. night for that weekend. 275 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Hey, what could possibly happen now that the week is here that they're going to push L.A. night? 276 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Because it wasn't after break, wasn't Royal Rumble, wasn't WrestleMania, wasn't Money in the Bank. 277 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,000 And now it's not the U.S. title. 278 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,000 I guess you and I can do that podcast because somebody was going to say, well, actually, 279 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,000 you're going to probably just have to rename it because that's not going to happen. 280 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,000 So we're already where she already hates L.A. night. So she's already kind of put that out there. 281 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,000 She knows before we switch, I am going to throw it to you. 282 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,000 I know you had something. There was a talk that came out a couple of days ago. 283 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Spoiler alert, maybe. So fast forward a minute, minute and a half if you don't want to hear a potential spoiler. 284 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 I personally don't like spoilers either. 285 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Fast forward. No, but this is something that we kind of brought up last week. 286 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Perfect timing. That's why I said they all listen. 287 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,000 We talked about Bray Wyatt last week on the pod. 288 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:21,000 There was word coming out that he is set to return at SummerSlam. 289 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,000 I take this with a grain of salt. We also were told Ordon's going to return at WrestleMania. 290 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:31,000 He's set to return at SummerSlam in one of the main events. 291 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:39,000 So so far we know that Cody and Jann Roman, Brock and Cody. 292 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:44,000 I don't know what the third main event would be where he would come back. 293 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 So right now, those are the two. 294 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:54,000 If you had to have him involved, if you had to, can't say, nope, you can't say pass. 295 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Something else, if you had to have him involved in a Roman program or a Cody program, 296 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,000 because we know it's not going to be a J program or a Brock program, which one would it be? 297 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,000 It's simple. You're not going to put anybody. 298 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,000 I don't think anybody else is deserving to touch that bloodline story until the bloodline story is over. 299 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,000 This is going to be Cody. 300 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 I laid this out to you last week. 301 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,000 So yes, I knew your answer. 302 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:30,000 I told you what was going to happen. See, I see I booked these these these wrestling games, you know, all day long. 303 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:36,000 I got I got extensive me and Tony Khan. We've been doing this for 30 years, man. 304 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:42,000 I knew this, y'all. So then do you trust the process? 305 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:49,000 You being the Cody guy, do you trust that this would not fall off the rails and Cody will be just as. 306 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:58,000 That's the reason why I asked, which one do you trust that Cody will be at the level that he is now or even higher after a few when Bray wouldn't brace since Bray's been the theme. 307 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Nobody has

gotten over more after they feuded with him. 308 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,000 Either they were the same and the majority of them dropped. 309 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000 But see, this is what I got over. 310 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:15,000 This is where I got worked up last week about about the Randy Orton thing. 311 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Bray coming back, he's coming back also from injury. So why would you put him against somebody like Cody? 312 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 The same reason why we said Randy Orton could actually be the heel. 313 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,000 We came on here and you said that you couldn't do it. 314 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,000 No, that's what I'm saying. You said that still think order makes the most sense. 315 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,000 But I think it does make the most sense. That's not the question. 316 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:36,000 It is the again, Bray. People, people, half of the people still want to your brain, whichever version of Bray he's going to be. 317 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 They're still going to cheer. Why would you put that against Cody? 318 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Hey, you know, you know, I'm a big Bray fan, right? 319 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:49,000 But I remember Draymond Green, my man Draymond Green, fellow Michiganer, right? 320 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,000 Talk about Sag Nasty. Was it second off? 321 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:59,000 I get them mixed up. And, you know, Paul Pierce is trying to go into retirement to it, right? 322 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,000 And Draymond was talking to him in the game. He like they don't love you like that. 323 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,000 They don't love you like that. They don't love Bray Wyatt like Randy Orton. 324 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:14,000 I never said, yeah, but I said that they're going to still but he's still going to get cheers off of Cody, regardless. 325 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,000 I say I say this. Randy Orton is a beloved figure right now. 326 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:26,000 We all love Bray, but we are willing to Bray Wyatt reminds me of like Freddie Krueger back in the day. 327 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 You're like Chuckie back in the day, right? He's like the lovable villain, right? 328 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,000 We know he's we know he's a villain, right? 329 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,000 So we know that the end game is you want to overcome the evil. That's what that's what Bray is. 330 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Randy Orton, as much as they try to position him as that guy, he's always been somebody that he's the share. 331 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,000 So he comes back. He's getting the hero's welcome. 332 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:54,000 And I think that if you're trying to build Cody as like your next top act after Roman Reigns in the bloodline, 333 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:59,000 you don't want somebody kind of coming in there kind of like splitting the audience with them. 334 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000

Now, Bray can come in. Yes, he's going to people are going to cheer him. 335 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,000 They ain't going to give him that Randy Orton pop. He ain't getting that one now. 336 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,000 And also fans know that he's a bad guy. They know that he's a villain and they're willing to sacrifice. 337 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Don't answer your question. You know what? I think Cody might surprise me, man. 338 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:20,000 I don't honestly I don't as a fan of his like I'm really surprised that his this character, this version of Cody is so over. 339 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000 So who knows? And I think if they're going to do it, it's going to be with him, not Roman. 340 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:29,000 But I don't think it's up to Cody. I think it's the booking. That's why I say, do you trust it? 341 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Cody's gonna be fine. He's gonna do his thing. We've seen every single week. 342 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,000 He gets more popular and more popular with the fan base. He's doing an incredible job. 343 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,000 My worry, though, is all right, you put him with Bray. 344 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:48,000 What does that look like after he's done with Bray? Because this whole thing for Cody, this is his story. 345 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:53,000 We're going to we're going to presume the story is him, Roman, WrestleMania 40. He gets the belt. 346 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Maybe he loses again. Who knows? I don't know. But we know this story and so far it's working. 347 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:07,000 There is nobody, if they're being real with themselves, would say that Cody is not in a better position right now than he was heading into WrestleMania. 348 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,000 He's absolutely in a better position with the fan base, on TV, et cetera, et cetera. 349 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:23,000 My worry is just with Bray, because if it's a fiend character or whoever, you go in there against Bray and it just doesn't click a lot of times. 350 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Are we willing to put that up against our top babyface in the company outside of Seth Rollins and say, all right, let's run this program until Survivor Series? 351 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:44,000 I don't know. So I don't know. I think it's a it's a collaborative effort because, you know, you absolutely know that Cody has a lot of input on what's going on with them. Right. 352 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,000 As does Bray. Right. Of course, Triple H is going to be there. 353 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:55,000 So it's going to be a very collaborative effort and a future program with all of them. And I trust that the people involved will come up with something that's going to be pretty good. 354 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:03,000 As far as like Bray, you know, I think that that fiend character got over differently they thought it would. 355 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Like, right. And because of the character, he's like this invincible monster character. Right. He's almost like Jason Voorhees. Right. In a lot of ways. Right. 356 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,000 So how do you really overcome him unless you kill him? It was kind of what they need to go to. 357 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:22,000 Hell, didn't order to kill him. You set him on fire. I remember that match. He came back. Yeah. But he came back just like Jason. Right. Came back. Came back. 358 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:31,000 But I don't think we're going to get that type of character from Bray. And I'm not sure what Bray Wyatt was doing with this character in Uncle Howdy. 359 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:39,000 I think it might have been a more vulnerable character, much like the original Bray Wyatt character was. And like I said, LA Knight came out OK. 360 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:46,000 I think I think they will they will be fine. Right. I don't know. It's going to be the thing that's going to set the world wrestling world on fire. 361 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:51,000 I'm not going to say that. But I think at the end of the of the program, I think it will be fine. 362 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,000 And I'll by golly say I might be entertained by it. I think we'll all be entertained about it by it. 363 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:05,000 What I would love and hopefully he continues to do like wrestling interviews and stuff after he's done Bray Wyatt. 364 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:15,000 I would love a sit down when he's retired or he's done to find out about how his mind worked with some of these characters. 365 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:25,000 I would love to know when you came back at Extreme Rules, what was the end game for that character? 366 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Because the word was Eric Young, who we talked about last week, said, hey, is either me or Vince. I can't work with this man. 367 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:41,000 They let him go. He's back in impact. He was supposed to play one of the puppet characters for Bray Wyatt. 368 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,000 Yeah, that was the thing, right? We thought it's going to be like seven something. OK. 369 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:53,000 But so to your point, if the story was him and Uncle Howdy, you know, this is supposed to be Bray Wyatt, the human guy. 370 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 And then you have Uncle Howdy. We didn't know what that was. 371 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:06,000 The Firefly Funhouse was over, but then we saw him standing in the crowd at one point, the puppets. And then it comes out to hear that, hey, they were supposed to be actual characters with these puppets. 372 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:12,000 I would just love to hear like, all right, take us take us through what was supposed to happen. 373 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:18,000 OK, once the Uncle Howdy thing was done, how do we get to the puppets? And then now you got the puppets. What does that look like? 374 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,000 I would just love I would pay pretty good money to hear

what that was supposed to sound like. 375 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:29,000 We know Bray is a special talent. Love for him to come back. 376 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:36,000 It's going to be interesting to see what him and Cody does. If that's the game. 377 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:44,000 I kind of like where we're at right now talking about like the Romics. You brought up a quick question about or a comment about Cody taking the title at Mania. 378 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Again, just presuming that. But before we get to that, tell me your thoughts on why Mysterio and Santos is going against each other that I'm not quite understanding. 379 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Oh, let me tell you, I got it. I got it already, man. 380 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,000 Come on, tell me, because I'm like, what the fuck was that about? 381 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,000 I've been booking these things too long. You know what? Look, Tony, I might be asking you good. 382 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,000 How do I let you, boy, we can get together, man. I'm telling you, we'll be best friends. I know I talk some noise. 383 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,000 It's always from a place of positivity, man. Call me. Let's get together. 384 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:24,000 So if there's any of the three of us that will be working with Tony, I can promise you won't be you. 385 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:32,000 The way you spewed absolute venom on that man and that's shown every single week. It won't be you, man. 386 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Because I know that he will see the love in my heart. He sees the good in people. So this ain't going to end right, this AOWL stuff. 387 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:49,000 It ain't going to end right for Ray. This ain't going to end with a happy ending. Something's going to happen, right? 388 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,000 Santos is shady. He's been kissing too many babies. 389 00:27:53,000 --> 00:28:03,000 He's been, what I say, shaking too many babies, shaking too many babies. 390 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Yeah, but this ain't going to end well. Right. This something's going to happen. 391 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:13,000 So this is setting up some friction for later on. Right. 392 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:22,000 I'm guessing and like I could be wrong here in the storyline, but I'm guessing that Ray wins and Santos ain't going to like that. 393 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:31,000 And it's going to start the fraction or the friction, friction between the people and the people have to point and choose. 394 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:40,000 They rolling with Santos or they rolling with Ray. And we're going to see LWO split and divide. 395 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,000 And there's this rumor that Carlitos coming back. Right. So where is he side on all of this? 396 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:54,000 So I think we're leading towards a visual split and this is part of it, much like what they're doing with Finn Balor and Senor, Money in the Bank. 397 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,000

Man, they got a lot of good things going, don't they? Like in regards to, I forgot about Carlito. 398 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Word is Carlito was supposed to debut at the Mass Square Garden back down, but the Bloodline segment went too long. 399 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,000 And they were like, if we debut him tonight, he's going to get lost. Let's hold it off. 400 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:15,000 But think about it. They got Carlito in the tuck. I don't think Carlito is not a needle mover for me. 401 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,000 I will enjoy watching him and seeing him, but he's not somebody that I'm like, oh, man, I got to tune in Carlitos working tonight. 402 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,000 But to that point, I was telling Rhodesia Friday night when she brought it up. I don't care about Ray and Santos at all. 403 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,000 I don't either. Not the match, not that match, particularly. 404 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Yeah, like, yeah, I don't I don't care about it. I don't care about the match. Of course, I like them individually. 405 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 I don't care about the match. The only way that story works and that could be where the story goes. 406 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:48,000 And I think that's a really good story. The only way that story works, though, is if you got you got to get Santos hotter as a face. 407 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:55,000 So from Austin, yeah, because it doesn't matter if there's friction, if I don't care about you right now. 408 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Right. We've seen trying to try. I know they have. 409 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:05,000 We go to a big show a lot because big shows gone down and probably in history as the most hill face turns that nobody cared about. 410 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,000 The reason why people didn't care about him was because you lost the emotional investment. 411 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000 I don't care that you're a face right now. So when you turn back heel, I don't care. 412 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 I don't care. You're a heel. So when you go face, I don't care. 413 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:25,000 And that's kind of how I feel right now with Santos. He is not a strong enough face yet to where if he turns on rate, you care to the level that's going to propel him to being a big heel. 414 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Yes, if he was to turn on Ray, the crowd is going to boom. All he's got to do is cut one cocky promo like we've seen from him in NXT. 415 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:37,000 And we're off to the races. But if you're talking about maximizing it, I like your idea of, OK, that happens. 416 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:44,000 But don't let that happen for a couple more months in terms of the turn. Maybe this could be chapter one out of six chapters. 417 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:54,000 And in a couple of months, he turns. But if he say if he was to turn next Friday or at SummerSlam or whatever the match is and say he cost Ray the match and Austin Theory wins. 418 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Now it's like, but I don't I don't care enough yet. Make me care. 419 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Oh, yeah, I think they're going to take their time with this. And like I said, they've really been trying with Santos, man. 420 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:14,000 He's been like, you know, he's wrestling. He's doing that whistling thing in front of his spots to try to get people to wake up and react to what he's doing in the ring. 421 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:24,000 You know, he's really, really trying. But it might be the him, you know, kind of going down the devious route might kind of be the thing to kind of add some season to his character. 422 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:30,000 I mean, people kind of get on, you know, get with them and get with that view because I kind of think about like the Rockers back in the day. 423 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:36,000 Like for me personally, I wasn't a big fan of the Rockers. Were you? 424 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:42,000 I was. I was a big fan of them because like for me, they were like the real first. 425 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:48,000 High flying higher, higher than the card act that did those high flying moves. 426 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,000 Yeah, they kind of were, you know, like our foundation was just perfect across the board. 427 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Yeah, but yeah, they were ground, but they were perfect across the board demolition. 428 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,000 We know what that was like. They were. Yeah, they were grounded. So like the Rockers was that team. 429 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:07,000 We talk a lot about the opening match and how important opening match was on the card. 430 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:13,000 It sets the tone. You may you want to have that show start off strong. You put the Rockers in the tag match. Yeah. 431 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,000 You know, what a what a gorilla called them back in the day. 432 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,000 What do you call their tag team because they did the double team moves. What do you call it back? 433 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,000 I can't think what he had a special thing. Tag team kind of knew any or something. Yeah. 434 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Something like that. You call them. But, you know, like Raptors. 435 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:32,000 But yeah, I just wasn't really I wouldn't say I wasn't into them that much. 436 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000 I get what you're saying. And I felt that too. 437 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,000 But it wasn't until Shawn Michaels started acting like a jerk, you know, before they broke up. 438 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Not after, but when he broke up, we started doing, you know, leaving the match and no talk to the girls in the crowd. 439 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,000 And, you know, just some of his mannerisms and antics outside the kind of led to the breakup. 440 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,000 That's what made me start taking notice of Shawn Michaels. Right. 441

00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,000 So we can get up to similar with Santos. Right. Yeah. 442 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,000 You know, him acting a little bit shady or, you know, so his heel side and things of that nature. 443 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000 And the subtleties of that might make it kind of interesting. 444 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:12,000 So when he eventually does turn on, right, if that's where they're going, it might be a matter. Yeah, it matters. Yeah. 445 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:19,000 I like that. I like that. Let's talk about the tribal court or combat, excuse me, tribal combat. 446 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,000 So now we know that in essence, it's a no DQ match. 447 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:29,000 No count out between Roman and Jay. Yep. At a summer slam. 448 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:38,000 Thought the segment was great. I thought they really nailed the part of tribal combat being about respect. Yeah. 449 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,000 I thought they did a perfect job of nailing that, because I think that's going to play into the match. 450 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:48,000 Roman stopping solo from spiking Jay and Jay super kicking him. 451 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,000 And then there's a stare off. So they didn't fight against each other. They didn't throw punches after that. 452 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,000 They did their thing. Now they separate. 453 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:07,000 For you two, does that stipulation make you more excited to see the match, less excited, or you have the same excitement level? 454 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:13,000 I'm probably going to say more just because clearly solo doesn't understand what a tribal combat is. 455 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,000 Maybe that's just, no, seriously, maybe that's just held to the higher rankings of the bloodline. 456 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:23,000 But you even saw how even Roman said, hold on, hold on, hold on. Does the elders know about this? 457 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:33,000 And then how Jay was like, it was their idea. So, and you saw this light bulb in Roman's eyes like, okay, well, I guess he, it's like, it's almost like I challenge you to a duel. 458 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Okay, got it. At that point, I want you at your 100% best. So whenever this thing is on and popping, I want you at your best because whoever wins is a true tribal chief. 459 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:54,000 So I got to be more excited because now I know at least the plan is for Jay not to be touched before the actual combat. 460 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,000 Okay. 461 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000 I stayed the same with me. I'm already there. I'm there for it all. 462 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Okay. 463 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Like, I don't know how much higher I can get, but also, you know, I'm watching these shows at five o'clock in the morning. 464 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:12,000 So I don't know if I got that much more excited, but I'm there for it, man. It was a good, really good segment. 465 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:20,000 You know, it's, that's one thing I like about SmackDown and this whole bloodline storyline. We talk about all the time, man. It's just a story, right? 466 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:29,000 And it's like, it's not just about what they're saying. It's like, you gotta look at their faces, like, you know, especially like some of the sit down interviews that they have or segments where, you know, Roman Reigns is thinking 467 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:35,000 and Solo is just looking, I don't know, he's looking worried or whatever he's looking like, but he had another look. 468 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:50,000 He had another look on Friday. Yep. Of like, come on, dawg. But again, that same look, that same look he gave Roman when Roman showed that he was, remember when it was the false finish in the tag match. 469 00:35:50,000 --> 00:36:00,000 And he, they hit, they hit the move. I think it was a spear and then they kicked and then Roman almost started crying and Solo looked at him like, dawg, get up. Like he gave him that same look Friday. 470 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:15,000 So I don't know. So to your point, is that a look of, man, this motherfucker soft? Is that a look of, I'm disgusted? Is that a look of, I can't wait to take my rightful place? You could take it as a lot of different things. 471 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Hey, and the thing is though, like Roman knows something up too, cause he'll look over at him like, he sure will. He'll look over at him like, alright, I need to watch this dude. 472 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:36,000 And then also you got those two, right? You got, you got Hayman in the back and it's like, Hayman, almost like he has like, like, he's like a fortune teller, right? 473 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Cause this, he's watching the playoff, like he kind of knows where things are going, right? Cause he'll look at Roman and he'll look at everything. Then he'll just give the same look to Solo, right? 474 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:56,000 Like he's like, he's watching this unfold. He can kind of see where this thing is going. It's just really exciting to see. I'm just here for the whole thing, man. I love it. It's a great story. 475 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:17,000 And the thing about Hayman too, which is so fantastic, and it's not baby feeding the audience at any time during a promo, a sit down segment, a match, you can look at Hayman and Hayman is showing you via his facial expressions, how you should feel in that moment. 476 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:29,000 That's an art to that. Cause to your point, there's times where he's jovial, right? Hey, I ain't got no worry in the world. Tribe of Chief got this. I have a little relevancy. We got this. And something happened and he'll switch and he'll switch to worry. 477 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:48,000 And now as a viewer, I know what they feel like. I know exactly what I should be thinking in that moment. If I'm for the bloodline, I'm worried. If I'm against the bloodline, I'm

ecstatic. Cause Hayman is upset. And he did a masterful job of showing those facials Friday during that entire segment. 478 00:37:48,000 --> 00:38:05,000 He had the worry look on his face the entire time. And it's all, so now I get it. So now Roman really is worried about this challenge from Jay. This is nothing to play with. This is not, oh, we're just going to rack them, stack them, smash them and get out of here. Got it. 479 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:25,000 I will say though, so you know, I love Jay too, but I wish Jay would, so you know, he does this thing where he's kind of hunched over a little bit. Like his head, like he's like, and he puts his head down and he looks up with his head down. You know what I'm saying? I need him to rise all the way the hell up. 480 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:44,000 But not yet. I know what you're saying, but not yet. Because the story you're still telling though is that Roman is still the head of the table. If he was to act like that, that means that now I'm the head of the table. No, there still has to be a little bit of that hierarchy of I'm still talking to the head man, the main man. There's still got to be a little bit of that. 481 00:38:44,000 --> 00:39:02,000 I think when we get there, I don't get that from him. I don't get that from him. I do. I get that like, this is like my, like, and this is what I get. Because like, for me, I get like, for me, I think it's more personal than business. I think it's like, this is my cousin who's like my brother. 482 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:29,000 And I got to go to war with this man. And I got to take him out. And I don't want to do it. That's where, that's what, that's what I see. Yeah. With him more so than the head of the table. I like, yo, this is my brother. I don't want to have to do this. But I'm like, man, bro, he done took your twin. He said it like, man, look, you called a shot. You took my brother out. Now I got to get you. Like, right. But I need him to say, no, I'm going to get you. I need to put some patience in his voice. I can't do it right now, but I need to put some patience in his voice. 483 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Maybe we get that next Friday, the go home show before Smackdown. I do have something I wanted to bring up. So you guys know that Survivor Series is coming to Chicago. And they sent like an email, right? Two day combo, pre-sale package, get your tickets. Listen to this. And yes, things can change. 484 00:39:47,000 --> 00:40:12,000 So this could be nothing or it could be a big deal. See your favorite WWE superstars live, including American Nightmare, Cody Rhodes, WWE World Heavyweight Champion, Seth Frickin' Rollins, the EST of WWE, Bianca Belair, undisputed WWE Tag Team Champions, Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens. And the last name that's on here, main event, Jey Uso. 485 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Could be nothing, could be something, could be a lot. But that tells me when I see that this main event Jey run is not ending at SummerSlam. Roman's not evidently going to be at SummerSlam because they would of course put his name on there. 486 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:38,000 But this means this main event Jey thing is going to have some legs. But we've talked about it. Good for him. Really, really good for him. 487 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:58,000 Last thing I have on SmackDown or WWE, unless you guys have something else, Bobby Lashley. Did it again. Bobby shows up. Well, Bobby did. Bobby go find some more black folks. Bobby go find some more black folks. He said, Trick, Mello, come here, man. They've talked to you. 488 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:15,000 You're all happy go lucky. Don't get me excited, WWE, on what this could be. I'm all, typically, I'm not for the, hey, put all the black folks together, put them in the stable. But if you can tell me we can get Trick, Mello, Bobby and the Prophets, sign me up. 489 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000 I do have a question for you guys. 490 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,000 Say this goes on for another five months. 491 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:37,000 Bobby shows up on Raw, because who gives a damn about the draft? WWE doesn't. So why would I? Bobby shows up on SmackDown. Bobby going to talk to all the black folks. 492 00:41:37,000 --> 00:42:01,000 Who is the one black wrestler, if you guys was booking the real black combat club, that should not be in it? Who is the one wrestler? You don't have to give your reason why. But you gotta pick one. You gotta pick one black wrestler that is under WWE contract right now that you would say, no, let's leave them out. 493 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:08,000 I got one. It gotta be Gable Stevenson. And I'm gonna tell you why. 494 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Because just like any old black person, trying to take vacation and PTO before they've earned it. 495 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000 That's a shoot. 496 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,000 You're gonna give us our vacation time. 497 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:27,000 My man showed up to one NXT and was like, hey y'all, that's enough for me right now. I gotta go take some PTO. I'll see y'all in a few months. 498 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000 That's a shoot. 499 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:35,000 I hope he's okay though. On all fairness and all joking aside, I hope he is okay. But yeah, give me Gable Stevenson. Not to go into the real black combat club. 500 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:46,000 I think it's like training. Yeah, I think it's like he's doing some training or something for college. But still, you could have, give us another, at least give us one more week. Get laid out or something. 501 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:59,000 Nah, fam. I'm here for the entire picnic cookout. I'm here for it all. Let it play out on TV. Let me get a slice of home on WWE TV every week. I'm good for that. 502 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:06,000 I just want to see them chopping up playing cards with them, some dominoes. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, give me all that. 503 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000 You can't

follow directions again. Matt, what you got? 504 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,000 Oh, Lord, give it to me. 505 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,000 You know what I would do? This is what I would do. 506 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:23,000 I would skip out on Byron Saxton. 507 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:32,000 And then Byron goes ape shit nuts. Okay. And just lays everybody out. If you guys don't know, Byron is a big dude. He's here. That boy is massive. 508 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:43,000 And of course that goes against his, you know, persona on TV. Just the happy-go-lucky. Everything is a joke and funny. But how great would that be? It's like they shun him like, nah, man, you're not down. 509 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:54,000 And then we see a heel Byron Saxton. He just destroys everybody. Give me that. Give Byron some rub. Byron deserves it. I like it. Y'all got anything else around WWE before we go to AEW? 510 00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:02,000 They just call so far LA Nights move the leaping elbow drop. There's no fancy name to it. 511 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:10,000 Okay. I like Rody's elbow better. 512 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:19,000 AEW. Collision was last night. We don't have to talk much about Collision. We can save some of that for a Tuesday show if you guys want. I do want to. 513 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:26,000 Because the big thing I want to talk about around AEW is Adam Cole and MJF. We got to talk this through. We got to talk this out. 514 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,000 And Blood and Guts. 515 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:36,000 Yes. Because I got some thoughts. You and I haven't really talked about it. But it was some thoughts on Blood and Guts. Collision is just such a complete show. 516 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:51,000 Last night from a television show, in-ring work was probably the worst. And that's not saying the show was bad because it wasn't. 517 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:59,000 But it wasn't like they didn't have like that match of the year candidate or they didn't have that oh you got to go out of your way to see this match because they did this for 20 minutes, etc, etc. 518 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:07,000 But it's such a complete show. And what they did on Collision this week that I love so much was three different things that they did that I enjoyed. 519 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:17,000 Number one, they set up the main event during the opening segment. Now, AEW likes to promote everything beforehand. 520 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:26,000 Typically with a Dynamite or Collision show, you know everything that you're going to see outside of a storyline. But matches, promos, they announce all of it. 521 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:35,000 And what I really enjoyed about last night during that opening segment was it made sense in regards to the four, the tag match that we got. 522 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:41,000 And it made sense of how they got there during the promo. So I love that. That's something they typically don't do on AEW TV. 523 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:50,000 Also love that they didn't announce Mero's opponent. They just said Mero's in action. So when he was jumped from behind, oh, it's him. 524 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:58,000 Right? Opposed to the announcing that he's rustling my man and then we know it's going to be a quick match because they're now on the same level. 525 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:06,000 And then he jumps him. Thought that was fantastic. Third thing was Acclaim basically got squashed. 526 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,000 They did. 527 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:15,000 In that match against House of Black. And they didn't tip their hands at all that it was going to be a squash match. 528 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:21,000 And for that to be almost a squash match and then Billy presumes that he's retiring. 529 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:27,000 We'll see where that goes, if he truly does or not. But for that match to be a squash match with the Acclaim and Billy Gunn. 530 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:33,000 So this isn't a squash match with three local talent, three extras. No, these are bona fide stars in AEW. 531 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:39,000 And for them not to tip their hat that that was happening, I thought that was really strong too. 532 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:48,000 But he said, Max, keep my wife's name out of your mouth and blew his ass up with that knee. 533 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:54,000 I loved everything about that. But those were the three things that I really enjoyed about Collision last night. 534 00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:06,000 I also loved how much of a star Darby came across after him falling flat a few times on the mic in the Four Pillars storyline. 535 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:12,000 He came across looking like a really big deal on Collision. And it goes back to the presentation. Same guy. 536 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:19,000 It's who he's in the ring with, who he's not in the ring with. I thought that was fantastic. 537 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000 E, did you watch Collision yet? 538 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,000 Yeah. 539 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,000 What did you think about that opening segment? 540 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,000 I enjoyed it, actually. I enjoyed it a lot. 541 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:34,000 Funny thing, I noticed that Darby, he's wearing those boots, those like those 10 inch high boots. 542 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:42,000 Darby, I don't blame you too, man. If Jordan was going to give me another two inches, I'd be great. 543 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:47,000 He learned that from Jericho. Jericho was like 5'6". That took him all the way to 5'9". 544 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:57,000 But you know what though? I always heard about Jericho and his lifts, but he seemed like a bigger dude in today's wrestling world, right? 545 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:03,000 Because he is, man. That just shows now the average size of a wrestler compared to what he used to be. 546 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:11,000 He's thicker and he seems taller than a lot of guys, which is saying something. 547 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:18,000 But I enjoyed

it, man. I liked the back and forth with Ricky. I love him and Ricky. I think that's what we're getting. 548 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,000 That's the sweet spot, right? 549 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:29,000 I like his story that he kind of told. I have to note that, man, at the crowd, they didn't like punk at first, right? 550 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,000 But he's really split that audience, but I think it kind of works for him. He's polarizing, right? 551 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,000 It sure does. 552 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:41,000 And that really works really well, too. I like this version of Darby. At first, I didn't think I would like Darby talking so much. 553 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:46,000 I thought the context of him is mystique, but I think he's doing a pretty good job. 554 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:54,000 Minus that pillar stuff, right? I think that was a bump in the road. I think he's actually overall doing well, but I got to give it to my man Christian. 555 00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:04,000 I love, man, Christian is such a great heel. He's such a great heel. He ain't trying to get no fans. 556 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,000 He's trying to get Cuba in the way to make people boo him. 557 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,000 He said no fans. 558 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:15,000 Correct. Correct. I mean, even his line about who walks around with a title that they didn't even win. 559 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000 Wow, he has the title on his own. 560 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000 Yes, yes. 561 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:28,000 Right? The whole thing. He has the title, and I thought just the back and forth with those guys in the opening was really, really good. 562 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:38,000 Y'all hit all of my notes that I had on it. I liked that Ricky addressed really quickly that he was in the pillar. I thought that was cool. 563 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:45,000 And then I did mention something about the women's match, and that brought to my attention that it's probably just because I like her a lot. 564 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:52,000 But I really like Taya Valkyrie. I think she's really good in being able to cut a promo after wrestling. What was it? Probably a 12 minute match. 565 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,000 I thought that was pretty good, but Matt made it sound like maybe I'm a little high on her because I like her. So that could be fair. 566 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,000 Same. I'm a huge Taya fan. The promo wasn't the best, but that's fine. 567 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,000 I thought it was. 568 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,000 You have nights off when you got a live mic, ask FTR. That proto was brutal. 569 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000 Boom. 570 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:21,000 But we know they can talk. But last night, for whatever reason, it just didn't connect. Last night just wasn't a good night for anybody on the mic outside of that opening promo. 571 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:29,000 Other than that, it was kind of just clunky. But whatever. Once again, I'd rather take that than completely scripted promos. So whatever. 572 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:34,000 But yeah, I didn't think that was great. I also didn't think... 573 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:42,000 I think the reason why maybe the FTR promo didn't work was because nobody cares right now. 574 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:54,000 We all love MJF Adam Cole. So we don't really care what you got to say. They're not doing anything wrong. We enjoy it. Maybe you don't like the dancing. We like the dancing. 575 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,000 Right. That's where I was about to boot him. 576 00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:06,000 Maybe you don't trust MJF, but we're trying to trust MJF. So that probably could have been a really good nice backstage promo. 577 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,000 Making one of those 60 second, 90 second joints and kind of move on. But yeah, in front of the live crowd, Jersey was like, no, we're good. 578 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:19,000 But that Jersey crowd too was a little off. From the word people there, sections were chanting their own section, trying to get themselves over. 579 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:27,000 There was a ton of yeah chants. So it was kind of like one of those crowds from people in attendance. 580 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:39,000 You know, I gotta be honest about FTR. I was never really enamored in their face personas. I think that style promo that Dex does, I don't think it's very engaging. 581 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:50,000 He tells those stories and they're very similar stories and their stories are true to him and they're real stories, but I still find them to be greatly entertaining. 582 00:51:50,000 --> 00:52:00,000 I like them better when they were heels. Maybe this is where they're going. I just felt like up until that match we saw last week with the Bang Bang gang, I feel like they're just getting a little flat. 583 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:12,000 I think that there was a big disservice done by taking titles off the claims, slowing them all the way to hell down. Put it on to the FTR and I don't think FTR has really been hot as champions. 584 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:23,000 But maybe if we get a switching back to the heel team and then go against all those teams that are ready for them, it might be a good time for the tattooing division. 585 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:31,000 For FTR, I mentioned last week about how versatile they are in the ring and they can wrestle with anybody and that stands true to me. 586 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:39,000 I think when it comes to them speaking on the mic, they're pretty unilateral. They have just that one style of talking on the mic. 587 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,000 So at times if you don't care or give two craps about it, then you're like, well, I don't really want to hear from you right now. 588 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,000 So I can see where some people would say, hey, FTR, just be quiet. You don't have to come out every week and talk. 589 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:54,000 I know you're champions, so that

is kind of like a slippery slope when your champions should talk and when they shouldn't talk. 590 00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:00,000 But I can agree with that, that sometimes it could fall flat for me because I feel like each promo is the same with them. 591 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:08,000 The cadence and the sound of their promos are the same to me. But it doesn't take away from FTR being top three tag teams. 592 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:14,000 And it works when you don't like who they're going against. It does work. 593 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:22,000 And when you want to tell us that the ass boys are daddy's boys and they just need to get whipped around, cool, works. We get it. 594 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:28,000 Yeah, I agree. When you talk to us about willy club gold and all you guys do is cheat to win and we're better than you. 595 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:34,000 OK, cool. Got it. Works. When you talk about the briscoes and this is a dream match, we just want to see who's the better man. 596 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:43,000 Cool. Got it. But as hot as cold and MJF is right now, whatever you're going to tell me, I don't want to hear because I don't care. 597 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:49,000 Yeah. Yeah. I kind of agree with him, to be honest with you. I thought it was just a bad promo. 598 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:58,000 Oh, sorry. So let's talk about it then. Perfect segue to MJF and Amico and then we'll get to Blood and Guts too. 599 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:05,000 What's the end game? So we know they are now wrestling for the titles this week on Collision. 600 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:14,000 So we'll probably deep dive this a little bit more on. No, we can do it now because Dynamite won't happen yet when we record Wednesday's pod. 601 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,000 You got a couple of different options here. I've said from jump. 602 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:29,000 The way I wanted this to end was Adam Cole to turn on MJF. You do a flip flop. Cole goes heel, MJF goes face. 603 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:38,000 Do you see how much this is working? The I'm Better Than You Bay Bay shirt is the number one seller in AEW. Top shirt seller of the year, I believe. 604 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:52,000 Oh, wow. We know the type of engagement this has done for the fan base. Majority are over the moon, love it. 605 00:54:52,000 --> 00:55:01,000 Do you scrap the plan of having MJF Adam Cole at either all in or all out? 606 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,000 Because at this point, we have to assume that was the original plan. Right. 607 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:13,000 MJF does not have another feud anywhere in sight and that pay-per-view is next month. 608 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:18,000 So that has it. That had to have been the end game. 609 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:26,000 So do you say, all right, let's pump the brakes on this a little bit. Maybe we give them the tag titles. 610 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,000 Maybe there is no. 611 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:34,000 A W Championship match at all in your

biggest show in history. 612 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:41,000 And if you have will Ospreay available, if you have all your other titles available. 613 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:51,000 If you can somehow get some major outside star to come into the show, we have enough to sell it. 614 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,000 We have enough to make money on it, et cetera, et cetera. 615 00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:03,000 Do you scrap how hot this is and say, this is our plan. 616 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,000 Next Saturday. 617 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,000 They break up. 618 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:15,000 You go MJF Adam Cole as is meaning Adam Cole's the face and Jeff's the heel. 619 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,000 Or do you go third option? 620 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:23,000 They break up next Saturday or this Saturday. 621 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,000 And you do the flip flop. Cole turns on MJF. 622 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:38,000 So now Cole is the heel MJF's the face and you go MJF Adam Cole either all in or all out next month. 623 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:44,000 I think we're in a predicament here. 624 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000 OK, so. 625 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:54,000 I am from the school of if I'm coming to your biggest show in history, your heavyweight champion needs to be wrestling and defending that title. 626 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,000 One hundred percent. I do agree with that, and that's how I would feel. 627 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,000 I would feel a way if it wasn't. 628 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:09,000 We've seen kind of tag teams hold the main event spot kind of in WWE just in this last year, but that's something completely different. 629 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:15,000 So I would feel a way if your AEW heavyweight championship is not being defended. 630 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,000 I think there is something that is beautiful between MJF and Adam Cole. 631 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,000 I also feel in a way and these are all these thoughts running through my head right now. 632 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:32,000 I can't see MJF actually holding two titles because then one of them are going to kind of fall by the wayside. 633 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:38,000 I think it will blow up before they win the titles. 634 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:48,000 So maybe it's a piece of possibility they're about to win, but I can't even see a world when it's MJF and Adam Cole going against FTR. 635 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,000 The way it's constructed right now. I just can't see that. 636 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,000 That's happening Saturday. 637 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,000 Right. That's what I'm saying. 638 00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:03,000 I think maybe in the match it would look like MJF and Adam Cole could win, but I don't think they're going to win. 639 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,000 Because I can't see a world where those two go against each other. 640 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:13,000 And that AEW heavyweight championship has to be defended at your biggest show of history. It has

to. 641 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:18,000 Alright, so Rosselle, real quick, you said that you can't see them going against each other. The match is happening Saturday. 642 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:24,000 Okay, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I mean after, like going back and forth in a program together campaign. That's what I'm saying. 643 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000 Of course, the match is already settled. They're going to fight on collision. 644 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,000 What I'm saying is that I can't see a program between those two tag teams. I can't. 645 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:38,000 Got it. So then if you are saying what you're saying, who turns on who? Does Cole turn on MJF or does MJF turn on Cole? 646 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:47,000 Initially, I thought listening to you that it would be Adam Cole turning. But again, why would FTR drop that little nugget again to remind me about the devil line? 647 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,000 How they want to make it act like they're not really there, but they're still really there. 648 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:59,000 Why say that if that doesn't come to fruition this Saturday or whenever? So I'm very torn. I don't know what's going to happen. 649 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:06,000 So you got to pick before we go to E. You got to pick. And maybe the reason why they said that line is to put- 650 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,000 A plan to see possibly too. 651 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:19,000 For Adam Cole, not for MJF or Adam Cole. Hey, man, you really don't trust him. I know y'all been getting along for a month. Y'all have gone out to eat together. Y'all went bowling together, whatever y'all have done. Worked out together. 652 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:32,000 So then if I have to pick between who's going to turn on who, then I would have to say who then that storyline at all in would have to be, I feel then MJF and Adam Cole going against each other. 653 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:43,000 And who, and like I would have to work backwards. If I had to pick then who's going to turn on who, let's roll with Adam Cole turning bad guy and MJF showing that he's turned good guy. 654 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,000 And later in life, who knows? That might be a for fakes though. But let's say Adam is going to do the turn. 655 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,000 Got it. 656 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,000 And causes the match. 657 00:59:53,000 --> 01:00:03,000 So you think about it like, so I always assumed the end game was for one of them turn probably MJF, I would have assumed. 658 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:09,000 Because I think at some point in the near future, we're going to get punk in MJF. 659 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:18,000 But if they don't do that, and they want to keep this train going with Cole and MJF because it's so hot right now. 660 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:31,000 Like, what are the pros and cons like right because like what are the stories that are booked after this view? Right? Does it make sense to stop that or halt those things to keep this

going right and then what's next for it? 661 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:36,000 What's next for all the different programs you had going into the future? 662 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:46,000 If MJF turns, well I don't know he's turned right because right now he's turned, he's turned baby face. Right? Okay. But if he goes back as a heel who who's his next challengers? 663 01:00:46,000 --> 01:01:02,000 Like right if Adam Cole turns on MJF and they switch they switch they switch what like what's next for for MJF? Who's his next challenger after the few who's Adam Cole's next challenger after the few right? 664 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,000 Okay. 665 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:07,000 If Cole loses. 666 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,000 And if he turns heel and he loses, what's what's next for him? 667 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:26,000 Like right because I because for me, Adam Cole has always been kind of like the leader of a group type character. He's never kind of been a guy that can stand by himself. He's always seemed like the the loudmouth in a pack. 668 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:39,000 Like so does he go to the bang bang gang, but you got switch play. King switches the the loudmouth of that group. Like what's what's next for these guys if something changes? 669 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:50,000 It's my thing. So in a perfect world, I don't know what to say a perfect world like I would just kind of assume what the national course was that you know MJF is being a jerk. 670 01:01:50,000 --> 01:02:09,000 You know he turns on Adam as expected, you know he goes on the feud with punk at the next thing and they find something else for Adam Cole to do because if they if they switch that around. I don't know who's next for for Cole or who's next MJF. What are they doing? 671 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:21,000 See, that's why I think Adam would have to betray MJF this weekend or Saturday. So then now we can have a storyline for going after them since we lost the opportunity of the tag team championship. Let me go after the belt. 672 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:31,000 I mean because right now at all in again. I'm from the school that you have to be that title needs to be defended. There's nobody else and what is a what's all in like five weeks from now six weeks from now. 673 01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:40,000 Yes, the last week of August. Hey, I will say that Roman Reigns has to defend his belt in damn near 10 months. So we're okay with champion defending belts. 674 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:51,000 A bloodline is completely different. You got to complete again. You had a tags main event. Well, but Roman defend the belt at WrestleMania. This all in is like their WrestleMania. This is their biggest show in history. 675 01:02:51,000 --> 01:03:02,000 So if you guys are saying no it is if you've already sold 70,000 tickets, it's your biggest show in history. If you're saying that it's your biggest show in history, you have to have a title match. World title match. I get that. I get that. 676 01:03:02,000

--> 01:03:07,000 They already sold the tickets. I get that. That would be my argument. 677 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:26,000 I mean, they didn't they didn't sell the tickets for that match. So tickets are already sold. You got a pay review the next week. You ain't got to pay review the next week doesn't matter because if whatever the feud is unless the feud starts at all in it doesn't matter that okay the pay review is that next week. 678 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,000 You got two pay reviews in a week. 679 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:37,000 And for me, something that you said he who's the next fuse. You got to answer that anyway. 680 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:43,000 Right like we still don't know what the next fuse would be. I think you could easily have. 681 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:50,000 For me, my thing out of this entire program would be to have MJF face. 682 01:03:50,000 --> 01:04:03,000 If you guys have not been listeners of the TFW pod, you can go back probably 30 episodes where I bang the drum every single week after all out last year turn MJF face. I was in the crowd in Chicago. 683 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:15,000 When CM Punk just won that title and the pop MJF got was the loudest pop I've ever heard at a AW show. Now granted I was not at the first dance show United Center when Punk first came back. 684 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:25,000 I think that was actually our only AW show we missed in Chicago here. Summer Slam in Vegas. Yep. But that's the loudest pop I've ever heard at an AW show. 685 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,000 You had your opportunity. 686 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,000 You didn't take it then. Okay. 687 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:41,000 I've always said I think MJF is somebody who you can put the entire promotion on their back. They take you to that next level. I think he's kind of shown that in the last three or four weeks. No, he's not doing all this on his own. 688 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:54,000 If you look at on Dynamite, that tag match, they start the tag match off with a dance off. Right. I love that. All four played their parts perfectly. All for me. 689 01:04:54,000 --> 01:05:06,000 But we always talked about we didn't want the sports entertainment from WWE. No, it's not that we don't want sports entertainment. We don't want sports entertainment that we don't like. 690 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:17,000 That was sports entertainment that MJF has done. The scene with him and Cole lifting weights. That's sports entertainment. The scene with them at the restaurant. That's sports entertainment. 691 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:24,000 He's doing sports entertainment right to what we like as wrestling fans. So is WWE now. 692 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:38,000 Right. Since Triple H is kind of taking over, we have not rolled our eyes at anything that's been sports entertainment related, maybe outside of the end of the Rumble match with Bray and LA Knight. But other than that, it may not be our cup of tea, but you don't roll your eyes. 693 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:52,000 You don't say that was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. We said that a lot over the last few years when it comes to quote unquote sports entertainment. But my thing is, all right, we need to turn MJF face because what I worry about is MJF has shown 694 01:05:52,000 --> 01:06:06,000 numerous times that he's done this before. You can't keep going back to the will of I'm your friend. I'm a good guy. And then he turns. I understand that's what the double does. But it's going to get to a point where you are going to need to turn MJF face. 695 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:20,000 And if you do this too many times, nobody's going to care. Nobody's going to believe it anymore. And I think the majority of people believe MJF is showing his true self. Hell, he sat there when they were playing video games and he told that I'm Cole. I've never had friends. 696 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:44,000 Right. He gave Adam Cole a birthday party. Just for some reason he's done that. He's doing things where it's like, oh, there's somebody I actually believe in. Now if Adam Cole turns on him, now MJF is a sympathetic figure. He doesn't have to change anything that he does except for rag on the crowd. Just pull that off of who you are. 697 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:54,000 And man, we are off to the races. CM Punk said last night on Collision, I am the real world's champion. What face says that? 698 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,000 None. 699 01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:10,000 Now maybe he may be right because he hadn't lost. He didn't lose the belt. But he's not right because you can't hold on to a belt for eight months if you've been out injured. But those were his words. So I've never seen a face that has said I am the real champion. 700 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:28,000 No, that's a hillish thing to say. I think there is so much money. I'll do it. Well, you're a hill. I think there is so much money in Punk, MJF, in Chicago, at All Out for the championship. I think there is so much money. 701 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,000 But you think we can get there in six weeks? 702 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,000 Well, yes. 703 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:38,000 And end this story now with Adam Cole and introduce the Punk story within six weeks. 704 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:52,000 Well, there you go. That's the part. That's the part where you got to kind of say, okay, well, how do we get there? I think what Cole, which can do, E, to your point of what's next for Cole, you have Roddy there. We know Roddy is going to play a part in this. 705 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,000 What's next to be back pretty soon here? Kyle? Kyle? 706 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,000 You bring back Nondisputed Error. Those three. Have them go after the TRIO's titles. 707 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,000 I can see that. 708 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:08,000 Now you have everything you just said, E. He's back at being a hill. He's got a group around him. 709 01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:19,000 Imagine those three not wrapped up in a elite few, you

know, Young Bucks few that they did last year. I think there's money in that. 710 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:32,000 Just do not revert back to, we fast forward a month from now, MJF is back to being the normal hill that he was. I think that would be a colossal mistake. I would love for this to continue much longer than what it is. 711 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:40,000 We've seen Tony Khan has pivoted before. Some good, some bad. He's done a lot of good pivots. So things that happen, he's made some changes. 712 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:49,000 I think you really need to look at it and say, okay, well, if we pull back and we say, let's keep them together until Revolution in November, what does that look like? 713 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:56,000 Can we still get main event caliber matches for two huge shows at the end of October, end of September? 714 01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:06,000 If you look and say, there's just no way for us to get there. Okay, cool. Do the turn or do the match, have them turn on each other, but have Cole turn on MJF. 715 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:17,000 The way MJF looked at Adam Cole when Adam Cole was looking at the belt. You could take that look of, I hate you, look at you. I can't wait to turn on you. 716 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:25,000 Or you could take that look of, dude, I thought I actually had a real friend for once and you about to backstab me. 717 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:33,000 There's a story there for everything they've done that MJF can be looked at as the good guy. Just don't squander that. Do not waste that. 718 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:41,000 I don't know if that can be done though to properly end Adam Cole, MJF properly and build for Punk and MJF. 719 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:49,000 And we know you can tell, say Punk and MJF one week before All Out and at All In you can announce it and we know it's going to be powerful and all that. I get that. 720 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:55,000 But being the wrestling fanatic that we are, I would want that story told better than that. And I think that that would be just a one time opportunity. 721 01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:04,000 Okay, then take that out. Take out Punk and MJF. Then just get me to face MJF. Just get me there. Get me there and we can work around everything else. 722 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:09,000 And then Full Gear is what, November? Then you can go MJF and- 723 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,000 I said Revolution, didn't I? I'm sorry, Revolution is February. 724 01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:16,000 Revolution is in February, yeah. So yeah, bring it out, bring it out, Full Gear. 725 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:24,000 And that'd be a lineup tour the whole Thanksgiving time anyways when they come back to Detroit, Laura Hemmers, when they come back to Chicago. So yeah. 726 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:33,000 Who did a better job of acting like they can't dance on Dynamite? Sammy or Adam Cole? 727 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:39,000 I think both of them can't dance. I mean there's something about when I look at a man and

how they move their body. 728 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:47,000 We've seen, Rhodesia, you were at Wale Mania. You saw Adam Cole moving on stage. That wasn't the same Adam Cole that was dancing in that ring. 729 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:57,000 Adam Cole has rhythm. Adam Cole has rhythm. So we know that. Does he? Sammy, there is no way, Sammy, you are that bad. Impossible. 730 01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,000 He didn't know how to do the hustle properly. 731 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:10,000 Impossible. The dancers in that ring was MJF and Danny Garcia. We know that. That was the whole point. And the other two were acting like they can't dance. 732 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,000 I just wonder who is the better dancer between those two? 733 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:19,000 You know, we know Sammy's a different Latin man, right? He doesn't even speak Spanish, right? 734 01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:25,000 Oh, does he not? He doesn't speak Spanish. So he was raised a little different. 735 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,000 He got Tecate. He don't even speak Spanish. 736 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:32,000 I'm going to say this. I'm going to say that. She's Brazilian, right? Yeah. But she still speaks Spanish. 737 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:41,000 Yeah. I don't think Spanish. Maybe it is. So what does she speak? Brazilian? 738 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:52,000 I don't know Spanish. It's Spanish and Portuguese. I can pick up certain Spanish. When I hear her speak, I can't really pick up a lot of things she says. 739 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:57,000 Neither can Sammy, according to you. 740 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:10,000 I'll say this. I'll say Adam Cole was embellishing more. I think he's going a little bit too much. But I think naturally who has more rhythm, I think it got to be Sammy. 741 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,000 Who has more? Because he has more rhythm because he is a Latin man. 742 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:23,000 I ain't seen nothing when he was doing it. He seemed a little... He was trying, but it wasn't like he would hit that move right. 743 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:27,000 But as a woman, I look at things differently. I think Sammy has more rhythm. 744 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:37,000 But we know what you look at. We sitting here trying to have a serious conversation about Adam Cole and MJF, the two most popular wrestlers in the entire promotion. 745 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:50,000 We're trying to book the territory for the next year to make sure the AEW maximizes the fans and what you keep doing. Talk about some damn hip thrusts. What is wrong with you? Why are you so enamored with hip thrusts? 746 01:12:50,000 --> 01:13:02,000 Because I think it's fun. I think it's cool. I think it just breaks up some of the seriousness of it all. I think that's all it is. It's a dance break, but done in the right way. Who used to dance break? Carmella and R-Truth, right? 747 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:10,000 R-Truth. I like their dance breaks too, but yeah, it's just something quick and fun. 748 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,000 Blood and guts. 749 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:31,000 So I said, I thought the story, plural, and the match quality of the match with Trump, me being over the feud, it didn't. 750 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:45,000 The match was a great match. They went 45 minutes or so, highly entertained, loved everything in the context of the match for the most part. I have no complaints about the actual match itself. 751 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:51,000 But as soon as it was over, I looked at R-E-D-I-G-I-E and I was like, all right, time to move on. 752 01:13:51,000 --> 01:14:03,000 And maybe that was the blow off, right? Isn't that what the blow off is about? Yes, but typically in a blow off, you get a feeling of satisfaction when it happens. My feeling was finally it's over, let's move on. 753 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:16,000 Oh wow. Yep. Once again, shout out to everybody that was involved in that match. Nothing against the match itself. I thought it was entertaining. I would tell anybody who didn't see it, hey, go watch the match. 754 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:25,000 I just found myself not caring during the match. And that shouldn't be a case when you are putting your bodies through that type of punishment. I should care. 755 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:37,000 And yeah, like I squirmed here or there and I enjoyed the match, watching the match, but that was all it was to it. And that shouldn't happen. That shouldn't happen. But it was cool. 756 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:48,000 Hey, real quick, Rhodisha, before you go, I just want to clear up two things. I'm going to let you guys talk. I didn't see the match. I didn't actually want to see the match. I don't have a lot of time. I didn't want to sit and spend time seeing someone I didn't want to see. 757 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:57,000 Ty Conti is Portuguese, but she does also speak Spanish. So, Rhodisha, you're right on the money. Right on the money. 758 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:07,000 Well, Brazil is a melting pot for all different types of cultures. No, she says she speaks Portuguese. I said she speaks Spanish. You said you just didn't understand anything she said. 759 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:16,000 And, Matt, you are right. During the blow off, you are supposed to be relieved. You're right. 760 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:29,000 Yep. I sat there at 9.01 Central Time and said, what's next, guys? I think we watched a movie or something. See, that's not fair. I can't say it's not fair because that's how you feel. 761 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:43,000 I loved everything about that match and I 100% agree with you. Now it's over. But I don't want the tone to sound like, oh, that match was a waste of time because it wasn't. I love pack leaving the match. 762 01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:54,000 Like, fuck y'all. I'm out of here. I loved everything about that match. I love who it was that came in with the screwdriver to be in. Was it Moxley came in immediately with the screwdriver and started annihilating people? 763 01:15:54,000 -->

01:16:03,000 My only thing was, and this is shame on me because I haven't really seen him wrestle fully in a few years, but I think I was underwhelmed. 764 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,000 Elephant in the room. 765 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,000 I was underwhelmed. 766 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:10,000 Elephant in the room. Go ahead. Elephant in the room. 767 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,000 And no, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop, stop. Before you say it. 768 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,000 Yeah. 769 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,000 I don't want the PC. 770 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:27,000 I don't want the PC. I don't want what if I come across as being the mean person. I won't give it to me. 771 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:33,000 Give me the real. Give me what you really want to say about what you're about to say. 772 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,000 We haven't had this conversation either. 773 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:40,000 This is the absolute elephant in the room. 774 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,000 I am ready to give like 10 shotgun blasts. 775 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,000 I can't do this. This goes against everything about me. 776 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:53,000 Okay. I was 100% underwhelmed with the Bush's return. 777 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:57,000 They made such a big deal that he was a fifth member. 778 01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,000 They turned down CM Punk. 779 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:05,000 Rightfully so. It turned out CM Punk for this. His entrance, he comes out. 780 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,000 He didn't look like he was in shape for me. 781 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,000 He did nothing really in the match itself that I thought was incredible. 782 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,000 Overall, I was completely underwhelmed by Bush. My emotional attachment to him. 783 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:20,000 I loved seeing him, but I was like, yikes. 784 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,000 I was more excited with Pax. He looked like it to me. 785 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,000 I haven't seen him though wrestle in a couple years. 786 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,000 I haven't watched New Japan in a long time. 787 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,000 He hasn't wrestled in a couple years. 788 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:36,000 He was not in the shape that I thought he would be to debut on AEW. 789 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:39,000 I'm sorry, but that's my raw feelings. 790 01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,000 There's nothing to be sorry about. 791 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:48,000 Now we know that he has had some personal issues over the last year or so with his mom. 792 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,000 He's had issues with NJPW, all that. 793 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,000 All that to the side because we are talking about what we saw on TV. 794 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,000 We're talking about what we saw on television. 795 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,000 But that matters though if he's not in the right mental space. 796 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,000 Couldn't have been. It matters because this is a work sport. 797 01:18:05,000 -->

01:18:08,000 That means you pivot from other things, et cetera, et cetera. 798 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,000 So this is not a shot on Ibushi personally. 799 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:22,000 But Kota Ibushi, the god of New Japan pro wrestling, that wasn't it at all. 800 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,000 He didn't look like himself. 801 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:30,000 He looked really, really big. 802 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:38,000 I wasn't that impressed because what I looked at was he was supposed to be the saving grace for the elite. 803 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:44,000 And if I don't know who Ibushi is, maybe that doesn't matter anyway, 804 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:49,000 but say if I don't know who Ibushi is, I would have watched that like this is Kota Ibushi. 805 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:54,000 This is the guy that people talk about a lot. 806 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:59,000 This is the guy that is the golden lovers with Kenny Omega. 807 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,000 Maybe they've done all these awesome things. 808 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:03,000 Maybe that's what I'm feeling. 809 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,000 That wasn't the same guy. 810 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:10,000 OK, so whatever he's got going on personally, hopefully he's good with that. 811 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,000 We haven't heard anything like he's not. 812 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,000 So that's why I bring that up. 813 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:18,000 It's not like, oh, this just happened a month ago and we're hearing that he's down the dumps. 814 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:25,000 He's done interviews talking about how the doors open for him to open up his own wrestling school and come to AEW, et cetera, et cetera. 815 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:30,000 When he came out on that stage, I was like, oh, shit. 816 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,000 Yeah. And you and I never even talked about this. 817 01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,000 Nope. Wasn't the best at all. 818 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,000 I had to process what I was seeing. 819 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,000 That didn't take my hoodie off. That just made me super hot. 820 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:48,000 And then when he came out, I was like, oh, and he proceeded to do some of his more famous spots. 821 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,000 It just didn't hit the same. It didn't. Did not hit the same. 822 01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,000 So I was underwhelmed by that match was still great. 823 01:19:54,000 --> 01:20:01,000 I am not saying the match was not great, but stories matter, man. 824 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:12,000 Like, and I know people will say, but there's been a story there between the BCC and the elite. I get that. 825 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,000 But it's not about moves. 826 01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:19,000 I'm going to go back to Adam Cole and MJF. 827 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:30,000 They've gotten over a double clothesline and a body slam in the year of Our Lord and Savior 2023. 828 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:38,000 That got more of a reaction than Pac swinging from top of the cage through a guy on tables. 829 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:49,000 That got more of a reaction. A double clothesline finish to a match got more of a reaction than taking a back bump on broken glass. 830 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,000 And wait, the double clothesline actually was kind of sloppy to me, too. It wasn't even fully there either. 831 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:54,000 But go ahead. 832 01:20:54,000 --> 01:21:00,000 Well, they're not like a full team. That's why I'm going to break up. They got to perfect this double clothesline. 833 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,000 Stories matter, man. Stories matter more than anything else. 834 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:09,000 And then I guess just to wrap the conversation around blood and guts. 835 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,000 And no, I sound like a hater. My apologies. I don't. I'm not a hater on this. 836 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,000 Can anybody tell me how that match ended? 837 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:27,000 Yes, Pac left and yeah, I think that's it. That's actually. 838 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,000 I love it. He actually just left. He left. 839 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,000 He's like, F y'all. 840 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,000 Yeah, they couldn't get along. Cesar or Claudio said something to him. 841 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:40,000 He said, all right, I got you. He went and grabbed a pair of pliers, bought some book cutters, walked the hell out. 842 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,000 Broke that lock and left. 843 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:48,000 So I'll tell you why I wasn't the biggest fan of that either. 844 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,000 You know why? You know why I wasn't. No, I enjoyed that that happened. 845 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,000 You know, I wasn't a fan of it, though. 846 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,000 I knew that was leading to a match with them at the ROH pay-per-view on Friday. 847 01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,000 And that's what it was. Oh, OK. OK. So like I have it. 848 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:08,000 I kind of have an issue with like blowing off a six month few. 849 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:15,000 One of the main components of that blow off is something that is just be paid off in 48 hours. 850 01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,000 Like I'm not I'm not ordering the ROH pay-per-view. 851 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,000 So like I understand. Hey, one match goes to the next match. 852 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,000 One storyline goes to the next storyline. I get all that. 853 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,000 But it left a little bad taste in my mouth. 854 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,000 Somebody they're going to work each other on Friday. Watch. 855 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,000 And then they end up working each other on Friday because of that. 856 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,000 Yeah, I see what you're saying. So back to it. It was amazing. 857 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:41,000 No, go back to it. How did the match end? 858 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:45,000 I just remember Pac leaving and me saying, OK, that's funny. 859

01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,000 So so Pac leaving was that how the elite won? 860 01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:53,000 I think so. I think it was a I think it was a count out. 861 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:58,000 I don't know. It was a count out and blood and guts. 862 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,000 He lost because his feet touched the ground first. I don't know. 863 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:08,000 This isn't the Roy Rumble. Oh, the match ended. 864 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:14,000 Hell, you know, the match ended from the elite choking out Willow Yuta. 865 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:20,000 Do you remember that? No, I don't. 866 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:28,000 Damn. How did the match end with the elite choking out Willow Yuta? 867 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:33,000 Did they have a fight with Pac left? That's why. Nope. Oh, John Moxley 868 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:37,000 throwing in the towel for Willow Yuta. 869 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,000 I don't remember that either. 870 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,000 Stories matter. You know why you don't remember it? 871 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,000 Why? They didn't come across well on television. 872 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,000 They were in picture in picture. No, they were not. 873 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,000 They did not come across well on TV. 874 01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:58,000 They showed on television the first time Mox throwing in the towel. 875 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:03,000 That's why they kept shooting mox in the corner with that look on his face while he was tied up. 876 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:07,000 He threw in the file. He threw in the towel for you. 877 01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,000 So here's a finish that you say to yourself. 878 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:15,000 Hold on a second. Moxley, who is all about death matches, who is all about kill or be killed, 879 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:23,000 lost this match that blows off a few to save his partner Willow Yuta from being choked out? 880 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:29,000 I'm OK with that. You can't be OK with it. You didn't see it. 881 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:35,000 How are you OK with it? Touché. If I were to have saw it and remembered it, I would have been OK with it. 882 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:39,000 That's got to be one of the things you remember from the match, man. And it wasn't. 883 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,000 But I don't want it to sound like we should. No, I'm blood and guts. 884 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,000 I thought blood and guts was really, really, really good. It was 45 minutes. 885 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:51,000 I know you are so adamant about not shitting on the match. You can't even remember how the match finished. 886 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:57,000 So it's not about us shitting on it. It's about me giving my personal thoughts on the actual match and the feud itself 887 01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:05,000 and then proving to you that the ending didn't work because you forgot how the finish was. 888 01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:12,000 That's that's crazy talk. That's like watching

Kenny and Ospreay and you forgetting that Ospreay won. 889 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:17,000 But in the finish, the match didn't matter. The match didn't work. That match was to propel Ospreay. 890 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:23,000 Everything he's went against, you know, wrestling in New Japan through the pandemic in front of no people, 891 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:31,000 taking the lead from Omega when they started AEW, all that transferred in that second match. 892 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:35,000 That's the feeling of, man, he finally overcame Kenny Omega. Man, they won and won. Oh, my God. 893 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:41,000 If they ever meet again, who breaks the tie? That's that. We do blood and guts. 894 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,000 You couldn't even tell me like what the finish was. That's that's just a problem. 895 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:52,000 That's just shot poorly. Yeah, I don't like it. Like I say, I don't even think they showed a replay of it if I'm not mistaken. 896 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:59,000 But actual when you watch the you see Willard getting choked out. 897 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:06,000 They call for the bell and then they keep shooting Moxley in the corner. He's bloody. He's tied up. 898 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:12,000 I think he's actually handcuffed to the rope and he's got like this despondent look on his face and they keep shooting and keep shooting. 899 01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:17,000 And at first I'm like, why do you keep shooting Moxley? And they come to find out. Oh, he was the one that threw the towel in for you. 900 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:22,000 I'm like, man, that's a major story. Yeah. And we missed it. 901 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:27,000 Again, I haven't seen it, of course. Right. But as you're explaining to me, I talk about stories matter. 902 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:32,000 That's a huge story. It seemed like it was the problems that it was missed. 903 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:41,000 And that kind of you know, one thing about their production things, it doesn't bother me as much as it bothers you and some of the missed shots. 904 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:48,000 But I know it's on collision. I forget which I think was the end of the tag match. 905 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:55,000 They had the wrong camera angle. Yeah. My shop. And it was like, right. They cut away from him. Right. 906 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:59,000 As I'm like, who does that? Why does that? Right. Why are you cutting away right there? 907 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:09,000 So it seems like in that moment, it crept up on Dynamite too, that they did catch the towel being thrown on, thrown in to emphasize that story plot. 908 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:16,000 Because that's something they can kind of talk about next week, right? Between the group. Like, hey, you know, John, what are you doing? 909 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:23,000 Really could have been like, hey, I wasn't going to tap or whatever the case may be. Now that sets up a nice little story amongst them that they can continue.

910 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:31,000 So it sounds like the problem wasn't necessarily the finisher, how it was laid out. It sounds like it probably just was AEW need to get their production. 911 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:36,000 I'm not going to call for anybody to be fired. I'm always going to go, hey, how can we improve? Right. 912 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:43,000 How can we fix this issue? Because it crept up twice on two different shows. Right. Hey, what can we do to fix that? 913 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:48,000 Because that sounds like it's a huge letdown for the viewers. Yeah. And that's what it is. 914 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:53,000 I think it's a fantastic story. And I'm actually really excited to see now what's next for you to. Why he did that. 915 01:27:53,000 --> 01:28:02,000 Yeah. The BCC and Moxley. But that's what we should have remembered and been thinking about when the when the finish was over. That's all. 916 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:04,000 That's all. 917 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:08,000 All right. Now that I've gone off on that tangent. Yep. 918 01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,000 Is there more stuff? 919 01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:22,000 You guys you guys mentioned earlier that no out of the three of us like Tony one talked to me. I think it's you guys because hey, Tony, I just went ahead and explain what really happened that your story was phenomenal. 920 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:28,000 And that he's telling you that story is phenomenal. Very, very engaged in seeing in the future. 921 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:36,000 We have to just figure out what we can do to get these production walls taken care of. Tony, give me a call. Send me a DM. We'll figure it out. 922 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:44,000 I just ignore him. Hey, look, no, you know, I that's funny. But I like it though. It's it's entertaining. 923 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:56,000 But the thing about whatever I disagree with something or I have constructive criticism, I always say what could have been. I just don't come out and say I don't like it or anything like that. 924 01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:06,000 I'm like, you don't need so much toilet paper after that promo you what you said, man. I mean, goodness. We need show us. We need that good show. 925 01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:11,000 He's clean. My high knees clean. 926 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:22,000 I don't even know if I should bring it up because I think this is a perfect way just to end it. But I'm happy to see that jungle boy was buried. I'm not going to tell you about kind of what I thought was happening in the beginning of that. 927 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:28,000 I will. I will. No, I will. I thought he was digging up his daddy. 928 01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:42,000 I did. I swear to God, I swear to God, like they showed him and I'm like, why is he digging up a body because he was dragging the body. I'm like, is he bringing his dad's dead corpse to dynamite. 929 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:55,000 I was like, oh, no, like that's the jungle boy character because he has

the boots on. I was like, oh, OK, that cool. All right. That makes sense. I mean, I thought I was much, much better than him digging up his dad. 930 01:29:55,000 --> 01:30:07,000 I liked I liked how he looked. I know he you sent a text. He was like, man, I'm not feeling his heel persona or something. Yeah, like I thought it was good. I thought he had a really good look. 931 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:17,000 I mean, that's something in terms of the FTW belt that should be fun to see where they go for it. But yeah, I did like that match and I did like I don't know if I like the music. 932 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:24,000 I need to do some research on the significance of that. That's just not a good heel song. 933 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:37,000 I know the whole thing is horrible, man. Hey, Matt, real quick, you got you can't you can't run away from the joke. You got to tell the joke about the digging up daddy. So for the viewers that wasn't there for the first couple of pods, what that's about. 934 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,000 I don't even know. Do I remember? I know. I know. I know. 935 01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,000 Oh, go ahead. What happened? 936 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:49,000 Because I thought that he was bringing up his daddy digging up his daddy. Oh, right. It's Christian, right? 937 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:55,000 The second time he's done this. Yeah. I was like, Holy moly. 938 01:30:55,000 --> 01:31:04,000 So here's the thing. I actually I actually liked, you know, that he wasn't digging up his daddy that he actually was burying his old persona. I like that. 939 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:09,000 Okay, I thought that was cool. And then the music and then the music happened. 940 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:14,000 And then his non swag happened. 941 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:30,000 Then everything else happened that just didn't happen, man. He ain't working as a heel man. Right. I said this before he turned heel. I'm like, I don't think it's a good idea. I don't know if he has the I don't think I don't know if he has the rest of them personalities to kind of bring that out of him to make this a larger than life character where it needs to be. I'm not seeing it. 942 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:47,000 But here's the thing. This is this was really his first debut of a true heel character. He just announced he professed that I am no longer Jungle Boy. I gotta give him at least I gotta give him a few episodes at best. I have to to see him. It's only fair. I'm a wrestling fan. 943 01:31:47,000 --> 01:32:02,000 Let me ask you a question. If you go to a restaurant and you get some brand new restaurant around the corner, you get some luke lukewarm fries, a seasonless burger. You don't give another shot or you can say this is nasty. 944 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:12,000 Whatever it is that you might want to eat from there. Whatever it is lukewarm and it was seasonless. And would you give it another shot? Yeah, absolutely. What I have had before. 945 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:19,000 I'm the queen of door dash to begin with. So most of my food comes cold. Put that back up in the warmer or you put it in the broiler. 946 01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:26,000 What's the meaning about door dash? You can get actual food that you know you like versus the food that you knew food to try that didn't taste good. 947 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:31,000 Like right. Like why would you pick the thing you didn't like me? You can get something you do like. 948 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:37,000 But you said the restaurant would I try the restaurant again? I would try the restaurant again. 949 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:43,000 I said it ain't working. It's um I thought I thought it was good. I'll tell you what's funny too. 950 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:49,000 And this this proves to you that I was not low on the blood and guts match. 951 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:57,000 I don't want this to get lost. I do think Dynamite was one of their better shows of the year this past Dynamite that first hour flew by. 952 01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:03,000 And then the second hour was the blood and guts match which everything about the match worked in regards to what they try to do in those two rings. 953 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,000 So I just don't want to gloss after that after I kind of talked about everything I talked about. 954 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:13,000 I thought Dynamite was fantastic. I thought Dynamite this week was actually better than Collision which it should have been because there was blood and guts. 955 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:19,000 Right. But yeah when you kind of look at just those two hours flew by. And it was a good show. 956 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:24,000 You got Charmander remorse? No I do not. Everything I say I stand by. 957 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:36,000 About about everything there. It was one last thing I wanted to bring up to you guys and I forgot what it was. Oh last thing we kind of started when we were talking to AEW. 958 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:44,000 I want to finish it. This is the Ricky Starks that's needed. 959 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:56,000 What we saw on Collision. That lane. That lane. Right there. Stay there. You are in your perfect lane. That is who you are. That is the superstar that we all know you can be. 960 01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:04,000 That is the lane. Stay right there. The lane is really really wide so it's not like it's a small lane. You can go anywhere you want to in those lanes. 961 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:09,000 Stay there though. That is money. 100%. 962 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:17,000 I agree 100%. This is the Ricky Starks that I want to see. Yep. A lot of money involved here. 963 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:29,000 Alright guys. Last things wrap it up so we can get up out of here. So does Nash. How does Nash feel about Ricky Starks? Is he a rip off of one time the Rock? 964 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:39,000 That's a good question. I'm guessing he hasn't seen Starks' work. Seeing he just now watched LA Knight. So I'm guessing he hasn't seen his work.

Got it. 965 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:46,000 But when he gets around to it he'll say that hey am I just tripping or is he just a blah blah blah rip off. 966 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:55,000 Hey I'm going to reach out to Kevin Nash to see you know we can get Rhodesia and then Kevin and then you know Matt the crap all over AEW. 967 01:34:55,000 --> 01:35:05,000 I'm just going to moderate. I'm just going to be the background guy and let you guys just get a whole 24 pack of Charmin on the wrestling business. 968 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:13,000 So that would be very fun. I'm going to reach out to D-Amil. I think that would be good because you have to moderate because you don't watch enough to actually talk about it. 969 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:23,000 Talk about lane. That's your lane. You are the moderator. That is a perfect lane. And E the lane is wide brother. The lane is not small. That is your lane right there. 970 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:33,000 It's a moderate. Go ahead and holler at Nash. Hey Fawcetties I done watched three hours of Raw this week. Two hours of Smackdown and two hours of Collision all in the same day. 971 01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:42,000 Actually you know what here's the thing about AEW on Dynamite. Now that you mentioned it I did see the first hour of Dynamite. I forgot about it. 972 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,000 Well yeah I mean the first hour. That's how good of a show it was. 973 01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:52,000 Well did you like the you didn't say anything about the dance off. Did you like the tag match? 974 01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,000 I didn't. I didn't hate it or I didn't love it. Was I entrain by it? 975 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,000 You were indifferent? 976 01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:03,000 Yeah I mean I felt like it went on a little bit too long towards the end which is when I started getting different towards the end. 977 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:16,000 That's why I said I kind of agree with FTR. If it was a boom boom boom and it got in and it got out but I feel like it kind of went too long for that caliber of match. 978 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,000 But yeah it was fine. 979 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:28,000 When I watched it I took it as a viral moment because that was all over Blitzy Report Wednesday night. Like people grabbed it and were sharing it. 980 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:37,000 When I saw it I was like okay this is their hey if you don't know what this is maybe you'll tune in next week. And they popped a great rating too. 981 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:38,000 Which is good. 982 01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,000 Good stuff. 983 01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:40,000 That's good. 984 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,000 Alright y'all. Y'all got anything else? 985 01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:45,000 Just looked over my notes. That is about it. 986 01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:46,000 Clean and clear? 987 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:53,000 Yep. But we need to reach out to LA Knight and have him name his looping elbow drop something better than that. 988 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,000 Rhodesia's elbow? 989 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,000 No. 990 01:36:55,000 --> 01:37:06,000 Yeah I got two things. Tony and Kevin. I'll DM you after the pod's over. 991 01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,000 We do have Detroit links so he can connect with us. 992 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:10,000 Boom. 993 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:18,000 That's where the guy who did all my tattoos looked just like Kevin Nash. So anybody who's from the Metro Detroit area who went to Ink Slingers on Telegraph. 994 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:25,000 It was this tall guy who was like seven foot tall looking like K Nash. He had been there for years. He did both my tattoos. I have more than two but he did both my tattoos. 995 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,000 And I'm like he looked just like Kevin Nash. 996 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:33,000 She would ask me like do you think that was Kevin Nash? I was like Kevin Nash is not working in a tattoo shop. 997 01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:37,000 At that time he was like he's actually on TV in this company called TNA. 998 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:41,000 But he looked just like him. 999 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:46,000 Alright y'all that's it. That's a wrap man. Episode 50 once again. 1000 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:56,000 Thank y'all for listening to us rant and rave and go through our things about anything professional wrestling anything that we want to talk about. 1001 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,000 We appreciate you guys support of course for being there each and every single week. 1002 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:09,000 Now twice a week on Sundays and on Wednesdays. Twitter that's FNW. YouTube that's freaking wrestling. 1003 01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:15,000 Five star ratings, reviews, all that good jazz. You guys know how we get down. 1004 01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:30,000 This is it. We will see you guys on Wednesday. Peace.